⭐┃nospoilers_general

[tired anvil]

I don't get the Anomaly fetish personally

But it exists

[native ibex]

Gaj probably plays those dungeon games where everything is a rectangle with variation

[robust forge]

"Muh modern design"

[wary cove]

[still ridge]

Bro!!

[tired anvil]

Nah, I'm not into medieval dungeon games at all

[still ridge]

Anomaly!!!

[robust forge]

Like, I've seen people defending Anomaly by saying that it's modern version of the trilogy

[hushed aurora]

Kek

[wary cove]

Even worse, that it's better

[sonic rampart]

Imagine hating a game for it's graphics

[finite dragon]

Lmfao, I would prefer CoP rather than Anomaly if it's the case

[still ridge]

Did gunslinger get updated?

[sonic rampart]

Some of the best games are 15+ years old

[still ridge]

Im getting on rn

[tired anvil]

“Anomaly is what the devs intended Stalker to be” - Reddit.
My favourite one personally

[robust forge]

[still ridge]

cursed

[finite dragon]

Yea, for the Groza

[robust forge]

People are so damn stupid

[hushed aurora]

Tf

[still ridge]

LETS GO

[tired anvil]

Plants vs Zombies

[native ibex]

What is main draw of vanilla games?

[sonic rampart]

Funnily enough i just started it a week ago

[finite dragon]

Hahah that game did give me a nightmare when I was a kid

[still ridge]

PvZ is 15 years old?

[quick dune]

20 hours on the best game in the series? 🤨

[still ridge]

Holy crap

[wary cove]

Farmville

[tired anvil]

Like 13 I think but close enough

[sonic rampart]

Nah it's from 2009

[strange horizon]

What i just hope, is that with mods support, we will still be able to have the experience that we want, that's it ❤️

[still ridge]

DS lite from 2006

[finite dragon]

It caters to a narrow niche, which is sandbox, same as misery catered to a niche, which was hardcore survival. Both have their moments but ultimately fall short to catch the full magic of the stalker universe, by omitting the supernatural aspect too much imo

[native ibex]

Yeah, we need Anomaly representation

[tired anvil]

Imma keep it real with you chief, no way it's narrow anymore

Swear to god there's more Anomaly fans than trilogy at this point

[sonic rampart]

Sad but true

[finite dragon]

[hushed aurora]

^

[tired anvil]

Especially when YouTubers go out to promote Anomaly and completely ignore the trilogy

[native ibex]

One can hope

[still ridge]

It’s cursed

[tired anvil]

“YOOOO BROO I JUST FOUND THIS SICK FREE GAME YOOOO GET IT NOW!!!”

does not mention the trilogy once

[still ridge]

At least some youtubers say good stuff about the trilogy

[tired anvil]

Yea guess what game it is

[native ibex]

First day of STALKER 2: All button prompts are xbox buttons

[finite dragon]

this is so sad

[hushed aurora]

525k views

[finite dragon]

[sonic rampart]

That 4K HDR guy on youtube does the same stuff

[still ridge]

“Bro anomaly is better than this, why can’t you skin mutants in stalker 2?”

[lyric forge]

@tired anvil I need your help

[finite dragon]

THIS FULL GAME IS FREE XDDDD I NEVER PLAYED STALKER DO FRICK YOU XDDDD

[tired anvil]

didn't touch vanilla once

[still ridge]

Oh yeah

[finite dragon]

Very epic gaemr1!!!!1!!!

[tired anvil]

This dude was a chad on the other hand

11mil subs and just streamed vanilla CS for the sake of it

[still ridge]

If he did a vanilla gameplay I would watch it

I would watch any big youtuber’s gameplay of the OT tbh

[hushed aurora]

[finite dragon]

CS does NOT get enough love, for sure!

people should read roadside picnic before going to stalker

[deft rose]

It had it's moments, moments that were intended by the developer to catch you off guard, coupled with certain things that could only happen because of how the things were placed in the game.

[dull orchid]

Those grenades still haunt my dreams

[finite dragon]

Ye

Plus grenades can be bearable (for me)

[hushed aurora]

Heck yeah boi, best game in the series tbh

[finite dragon]

Based

[native ibex]

Where are my Cuban cigars and cocaine?

[hushed aurora]

Rule 3 moment tho

[finite dragon]

I don't like his new content tbh

[still ridge]

why can’t I smoke this joint in stalker 2????

Tbh that would be based

[finite dragon]

Based af

[dull orchid]

They literally threw 10 nades at me when i was behind a cover
(didn't end well)

[still ridge]

@tired anvil do you support weed consumables in S2?

[finite dragon]

I do

[finite dragon]

HAHAHA taktician of the futur

Weed consumables better reduce you stam and increase your hunger though

[tired anvil]

Can't say I'm against it, though doubt I'll use it that much

[finite dragon]

ok let me get this straight we are arguing about people keep saying that people should play anomaly instead of vanilla right?

[tired anvil]

± sorta

[finite dragon]

Plus about adding Ganja consumables in stalker 2

Good ganja I swear (jk)

go breath air instead of weed

[finite dragon]

I think Anomaly is super fun but I see alot of people on Reddit and other places saying that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is the best game series ever but have only played Anomaly with alot of tacticool addons like BaS

[cyan geode]

I'm concerned about the fact that the new trailer says it's "Gameplay", but it's obviously pre-rendered. A UE4 game can't look like that.

[dull orchid]

average air enjoyer

[finite dragon]

Lmfaoooo

What a chad

[frail spire]

Play vanilla, understand the goods and bads, then move onto mods and find the ones that you like

[finite dragon]

Yeeee

Basically what Argen said yeah

[tired anvil]

So you're saying it's UE6

That's the thing, it's a gameplay trailer

As in how the gameplay will look like

[toxic vector]

i just want to replay cop with 100% complete gunslinger mod

[tired anvil]

Or is inteded to be

[finite dragon]

Nah it's UE42069

[tired anvil]

It's not gameplay footage per se

[cyan geode]

No. You can plug in an offline rendered into UE4. I'm saying this is not real-time.

[finite dragon]

is bugfix mod even that good for stalker

[frail spire]

If you start with a freeplay mod then your opinion is not only gonna be wrong but biased since you started playing with a game that fixed or modified stuff

[tired anvil]

Oh yea in that case

[finite dragon]

Damn

[native ibex]

I will not likely pay vanilla. It's simply too old.

[finite dragon]

Vanilla is kool

you know what i don't think there's any point telling them that they should play vanilla first because they won't listen and we're the one getting radiation not them

[finite dragon]

Lighting and Texture work is all you need to cover up all the flaws of a engine line UE4. Also based on the reflections and stuff in the trailer they defiantly had Ray Tracing running

[cyan geode]

Gameplay = real-time. The trailer isn't real-time, if you pay attention to the way the lighting looks like and the way the characters look in the environment.

[finite dragon]

Ye

[frail spire]

Then don't get mad when people who did played the games call you on your uninformed opinion

[native ibex]

I don't have an opinion

[frail spire]

Everyone has or gets one don't worry

[tired anvil]

He's pretty neutral about it, can't compare him to the other Anomaly fanboys

[frail spire]

As long as you're not a reddit mouthbreather you should be fine though

[finite dragon]

My opinion, play vanilla first and get used to it don't jump straight into mod and sheeting on the vanilla, etc

[cyan geode]

Of course you can hide it, but this level of realism and detail looks like it came from UE5's new lighting engine, which is obviously impossible.

[finite dragon]

Ye, I agree on ur opinion

[deft rose]

Here's my STALKER story, which made me fall in love with the games.

At the start of SoC I desperately needed a better weapon, so I exit rookie village, turn back down the road and head toward the military outpost. I try to shoot them to draw their attention, and to my utter surprise they not only respond but slowly come at me one by one. I head back to rookie village with them following me and then in one of the greatest gaming moments, a firefight starts between the military and the Loners. I hide in a bush, wait for the fight to end, then pick up all I can from the dead bodies and sell them to sidorovich, keeping a mint condition AK for myself.

That's my STALKER story, and I don't know if something like that is possible in Anomaly.

[frail spire]

tl;dr

[finite dragon]

Snitching tactic if you don't mind >:)

[finite dragon]

Not really, Metro Exodus did a update to only render with the newest ray tracing rendering that supported by Nvidia and it looks stunning. My guess is that the demo is using that new ray tracing

[dull orchid]

My STALKER story,

I killed Wolf at the start of the game and died

end of the story

[finite dragon]

Kool then

[cyan geode]

Honestly to me it looks better than nvidia/ue4's real time ray tracing, that's what I'm pointing out.

[finite dragon]

Yeah I get that

[cyan geode]

Like, way better.

Which is why I'm suspicious.

[finite dragon]

My stalker story

I found this game from a ytber named broleg, and i like post apocalypse games so why not take a try playing stalker. Cutscene already make me fall in love with this game. I started the game and had to hear fat scammer telling me to get a flash drive. The difficulty is ok i guess i don't have anything to complain about it.

[hexed snow]

Will the physical editions come with a steam key?

[finite dragon]

Also could be some drunken basement coding done in a single night by scraficing their souls to John Carmack that made it look that good.

[finite dragon]

#📗┃s2-faq Yes I think

[hexed snow]

Thanks! :)

[cyan geode]

Also I'm not sure if it's just me, but it looks like in the trailer the characters are rendered separately from the environment. For example the scene on the roof.

[silk sparrow]

guy on roof hair looks weird a bit. too fluffy

[frail spire]

It was the first trailer to reel in graphic coomers

[modern dock]

Could be that some lighting effects are not enabled on NPC models. That doesn't mean that they were rendered separately.

[finite dragon]

the cutscene from soc looks better than any new games these days. The cutscene feels so alive like you can see strelok beard and all

[native ibex]

But it is too late, amd I am lost

[dull orchid]

Those teeth tho

[modern dock]

That's a known default of technics like Hairworks

[cyan geode]

Yeah could be. I just saw a bunch of classical symptoms of pre-rendered trailers, like small details in lighting and shadows that are generally only achieved with offline methods.

[leaden hamlet]

Pretty sure the FAQ said there were some cutscenes shown in the trailer, maybe it's just that.

[silk sparrow]

50% of budget on teeths

[dull orchid]

Yeah it felt like a cutscene

[finite dragon]

Nvidia Hairworks is probably doing that

[cyan geode]

Yeah, though if that's the case every scene with a character in that trailer talking is a cutscene then imo.

[modern dock]

Yeah, it's definitely pre-rendered.

[solid dome]

Then we were lied with the Youtube title!

[cyan geode]

Yeah, my point exactly. But if Viper is right then technically the combat could be real time.

And blended really well with cutscenes.

[finite dragon]

so what do we learned today kids

[solid dome]

If russian media is to be believed, russkie journos say the trailer was created with the purpose of showing how things will look in general, e.g. showcase only, not really 100% gameplay - which turns out to be true

[old fjord]

hollo stalker 2 much pog, have gud night

[dull orchid]

That you should play vanilla first

[finite dragon]

correct

[tribal jolt]

stalker 2 is 150gb my god

[finite dragon]

they're adding sidorovich into the game that's why the game is 150gb

[modern dock]

Bruh, a 256gb SSD will cost you fifty bucks nowadays.

[silk sparrow]

if graphics will be like metro im fine

[tribal jolt]

arma takes all of my storage though

[modern dock]

Is that a very good fat joke?.. :')

[cyan geode]

Look, I think it's safe to say the game will look stunning. I just want people to not think that it's going to look /as/ good as the trailer.

[finite dragon]

just laugh alright?

[silk sparrow]

150kg

[tribal jolt]

[native ibex]

Sign me up when the 2tb ones are $50

[tribal jolt]

thatll be when games are 1tb each

[leaden hamlet]

Well I learned that you should definitely bring a hand-held fan with you if you're going to be working in the archive stores in Summer.

[modern dock]

Well, if you're open to weird product names and aliexpress orders, I have some news for you... :D

[native ibex]

Sounds dangerous

[silk sparrow]

codmw trailers are amazing, and game graphics too if you max out everything. so sometimes its very close to trailers

[tribal jolt]

itll have 1.9tb of viruses on it

[finite dragon]

bandit virus

[silk sparrow]

and size of game is similar to S2

[modern dock]

Kek, I won't find you a 970 Pro for 50 bucks, that's for sure. But I tried a few cheap NVMe drives, they held quite well so far. Going for OEM parts can also be a good deal.

[tired anvil]

Just cook an egg on the concrete, problem solved

[modern dock]

My laptop is currently running off a 40€ 960gb NVMe from an unknown brand that seems to use Dell controllers

[cyan geode]

The game is big because it uses photogrammetry. Aka it uses movie quality assets [textures and models] which makes the game huge in size.

[finite dragon]

i thought r/stalker is a good place to be in but.....

[native ibex]

Are there Anomaly bros there

[finite dragon]

sure always

[modern dock]

You miswrite "Anomaly Sect members" I reckon. :P

[native ibex]

Anomaly fans will make Monolith look secular

[finite dragon]

Xdds

[native ibex]

But, you know, I'm sure the Vanilla fans are just exaggerating the sins of my fellow sandbox fans

[modern dock]

Monolith guys can win redemption, as shown in CoP. Anomaly guys are beyond salvation.

[solid dome]

If the game takes place in 2015 or even 16-17 or 18, our great trader wouldn't have aged that much so nope

[sudden mirage]

Cheeki breeeki - !

[modern dock]

There's a third option. lore-friendly mods.

Like the center party in politics. No one gives a damn about us but hey, we're there.

[silk sparrow]

i dont mind huge size of game if it will bring nice graphics. why ppl so scared of 150gb. its 2021 everyone should have atleast 1TB

[fleet wave]

The originals take place in 2012 no?

[finite dragon]

yes

[solid dome]

1 TB for everything isn't enough

[native ibex]

If your lore friendly mods don't tamper with the quality of the gameplay, I don't mind

[solid dome]

CoP, yep

[sand oar]

why does nice graphics make up for everything in todays games =_=

[solid dome]

Cause people are idiots

[native ibex]

They don't

[modern dock]

Well, most of the time they do. A case in point would be the Gunslinger Mod.

[sand oar]

i want lore, gameplay, and fun before graphics

[silk sparrow]

get 1tb of nvme 2.0 and 2 tb regular hdd and put your priorities. a lot of offshore hdd can help too. it not cost tons

[native ibex]

No one is excited for graphics these days because they don't matter after an hour

[solid dome]

2TB HDD is okay, SSD still not cheap enough anyway - who needs 250 GB ssd (literally few euros) when you can barely fill it with anything

[finite dragon]

real gamer doesn't care about graphics, the only thing they care is the gameplay and fun

[sand oar]

if i wanted gun p0rn i got google for that with real guns no point in fancy graphics

[silk sparrow]

not every game needs ssd

[finite dragon]

Chad

[native ibex]

Isn't that just CoP with better gunplay

[finite dragon]

hard to find people like that these days. since most of gamer we met are edgy

[cyan geode]

Yeah, which is why minecraft is huge nowadays, despite looking like a child's game.

[solid dome]

despite being a child's game.

[modern dock]

You can get very good deals on SSDs nowadays. 50 bucks for 1tb, even if it's just a SATA SSD, isn't very expensive when you look at how much that changes your system for ghe better.

[silk sparrow]

i care about all aspects of game

not only graphics

[solid dome]

Maybe true but not in the local market sadly

[finite dragon]

Yea, most of them is in GTA V if you don't mind

[modern dock]

Yeah, but it also comes with a whole food/drink system, as well as a bunch of other gameplay modifications.

[native ibex]

Can the great Monolith grant me Hogwarts Legacy in 2021 instead of next year

[solid dome]

For those that don't buy from foreign markets, it's quite hard

[finite dragon]

Crouching behind the door frame and picking off AI was not as easy as in the other games, I grant you that, sometimes the nades were stupifying though :D

[cold roost]

Yay thats me, of course i care graphics if its a realism game but gameplay and fun is more important

[modern dock]

Also, am I the only one who thought at the time that Stalker's graphics were awesome? Like, not from a technical perspective, but rather for how well they matched the atmosphere of the game.

[native ibex]

Spyro Reignited Trilogy has best of both worlds

[finite dragon]

Yea you're not, I do too.

[cyan geode]

Definitely not. I'll take stalker over any fallout game any day of the week.

[finite dragon]

you know what? Remove games from this world

[modern dock]

Rip. Where are you located?

[modern dock]

Yeah but Fallout's graphics looked like melted plastic, except for F4 which had other problems. :D

[deft rose]

The godrays in Clear Sky were beautiful. The lighting during sunrise was especially great.

[finite dragon]

reject technology, return to traditional

[dull orchid]

When i turned those godrays to max i got like 30 fps from 60

[silk sparrow]

@modern dock atmosphere of stalkers is one of the best till these days for me. than you run around at dark with those ambient sounds and u hear some wolf hauls and see some abandoned environment. it feels so surreal

[finite dragon]

Ahh it never ends ehhh.

[cyan geode]

Yeah, no photorealistic graphics can save a game from bad art direction...

[sand oar]

honestly if stalker 2 had the same graphics from the older games i wouldn't be mad

[deft rose]

Don't need to turn them to max, they looked good even on lower settings.

[native ibex]

STALKER Trilogy, now available on the Abacus

[dull orchid]

Yes

[finite dragon]

Stalker with Fortnite graphics when

[silk sparrow]

stalker in roblox

[cyan geode]

Yeah, the secret tech most people forget in the options menu is to enable the dynamic sun shadow. Completely different game on vs off.

[finite dragon]

Stalker in 1992 graphics when

[cold scaffold]

oooo just orderd that ultimate physical Editions now i gotta get it for steam its good be fireee

[modern dock]

I would not, but that would be dissapointing. I mean, I'm eager for new techs to make it to the game, I just don't need it to be the main selling point, or even a strong point of S2. Just make something decent grapics-wise and I'll be happy.

[cyan geode]

Honestly I wish the didn't scrap Xray 2, but epic has to get money from somewhere.....

[cold scaffold]

i just hope its not hella scripted w new games lke cyber punk being such a boring game out of the main story.. lets go stalker 2 high hopes x

[dull orchid]

I wonder how the dialogues will be, i really liked the dialogue system of the original trilogy

[finite dragon]

Ye

[modern dock]

Xray 2 was nice, but the support you'll get for an Unreal game will have nothing in common with that of a custom made engine.

[finite dragon]

yeah i like when there's a random ass text appearing in front of my face

[finite dragon]

Yeeeee

[modern dock]

I mean, even I could write UE mods if given the SDK. X-Ray, on the other hand, is very obscure.

[cyan geode]

True true, but it's much harder to match the feel and atmosphere of stalker without its own engine. The engine made the game pretty much.

Though from what I can see in the trailer they're pretty close I guess

[finite dragon]

Gunslinger port to UE4 when

[native ibex]

What's an ambient occlusion

[finite dragon]

that sounds weird

[cyan geode]

Case and point is the massive market of UE4 games that 'feel like yet another UE4 game'. You need to work a lot to stray away from the default UE4 look. Assets alone don't do it

[modern dock]

Agreed, but UE4 is very flexible in terms of atmosphere. Look at Borderlands 3 for instance.

[deft rose]

Skif seems voiced in the game, so it'll be like any other RPG with a voiced protagonist.

[modern dock]

Yeah, but most of these are low-atmosphere games in the first place.

[dull orchid]

I wonder if we will see Strelok

[cyan geode]

Yeah, but borderlands isn't photoreal. They use contour shadows to achieve a comic book look. That's kind of in favor for uniqueness.

[deft rose]

Yes, Days Gone and Gears 5 look very different from your typical UE4 game

[modern dock]

I work indirectly on UE products for professionnal consumers (we make training simulators), and I assure you that you can make pretty much any atmosphere you want, it's just that you can't throw random props and expect it to work.

[cyan geode]

Ye, I don't mean no game looks unique. I'm saying like 90% don't. Obviously there's great games.

[modern dock]

Chernobylite, a UE4 game, has a very distinctive look and feel, on top of being very close conceptually to STALKER.

[deft rose]

Haven't checked it out yet

[cyan geode]

Tbf for me chernobylite has that UE4 feel and look a little bit. Might be just me.

[still ridge]

I wonder if we’ll get good English voice acting

[cyan geode]

It wouldn't be a stalker game if we did.

[still ridge]

I’d play the game in the original language regardless

[deft rose]

I like russian accented English voice acting

[finite dragon]

Get this thing away from me NOOOOOAAH

[still ridge]

NOOOOOOO!

NouuUuuh

[finite dragon]

Howdy ho

[modern dock]

Yeah, but at some point some things will have to "look" a bit like UE4.

[finite dragon]

howdy hoes

[finite dragon]

Heh

oh no swearing moment

[still ridge]

I think good English voice acting is important

[modern dock]

To be honest, the perfect engine for S3 would have been the latest edition of 4A, but, you know... shrug

[still ridge]

Wut

[steel jewel]

I think what the issue is, if you can call it an issue, is that most games nowadays go for a photorealistic look and there is the PBR pipeline which was not around back in the day, which has the effect of making everything look good, but artistically mostly the same, because everyone is more or less going for the same result - photorealistic textures - that doesn't mean that you can't make a game that uses physical based rendering that is unique looking, it's just that most games won't spend the extra effort, I think.

[still ridge]

bad take

Ue4 is more stable

[steel jewel]

It's kinda like photorealism in painting

back in ye olden days

[cyan geode]

I'm for UE5 to be fair. It has real time graphics so good that games don't really have a certain 'look'. They just look real.

[dull orchid]

Imagine someone in the game voiced by British accent, casually says "Howdy mate"

[still ridge]

HOWDY HO

One of the worst translations I think

[deft rose]

Does 4A engine even allow for RPG elements? Like dialog options, inventory management etc. ?

[cyan geode]

Yeah, mainly because if you want to achieve genuine photorealism, games have to look the same, because real life looks the same, if that makes sense.

[steel jewel]

yeah basically

[modern dock]

Well, it's just an engine. It doens't have to care for these things directly.

[cyan geode]

Anything that makes a game unique and atmospheric breaks photorealism and physicality on purpose to achieve the unique look.

[deft rose]

Frostbite would like a word

[modern dock]

But to answer, Metro Exodus featured a (very) limited inventory system, as well as a basic choice system.

[steel jewel]

but there's some wiggle room for sure, depends on what you are (re)creating, an old can of soda won't look the same as a fresh one from the factory, and a can of soda that's been in the zone for 10 years will look completely different, even though they be both using the same rendering and I think that's where stalker has a chance to stand out and from the trailer it looks like it already does, atleast to me

[finite dragon]

The environments were done beautifully, but to keep that quality over 64sqkm will be a massive workload

[modern dock]

Dragon Age Inquisition?

[deft rose]

Yeah. Inquisition had horrible UI

[steel jewel]

that's hardly the fault of the engine though

[modern dock]

UI has nothing to do with the engine itself. Also, the game sucked, but that's beyond the point.

[cyan geode]

Yeah absolutely. If I can get nerdy a little bit, anomalies for example can't be photoreal, by the simple fact that anomalies don't exist in real life. And also the gravitational ones for example, in order to make them physically based, developers would have to study how gravitational lensing looks like around black holes, because that's our only real life reference to that distortion effect they have on the trailer.

[steel jewel]

gravitational anomalies would not be visible, you would only be seeing the stuff that they are pulling towards them, but that's not ideal for gameplay I guess

[finite dragon]

Dragon age origins had a very troubled development like stalker but it turned out to be a good game

[solid dome]

Everyone: UE4 yes. UE5 no. Unreal, okay. YEAH UNREAL BOY
What a bs, nobody cares if the game will be good enough sometimes

[cyan geode]

Ye. If an anomaly can bend light, that would mean that they basically have to have the power to suck everything in like a black hole would. Soil, trees, cars, houses etc

[finite dragon]

Lets hope stalker 2 doesn't end like dragon age 2

[modern dock]

Actually, they would not need to study it. There is a plugin (that we used at work) for UE that was written to perfom geodesic ray-tracing in curved spacetime.

[deft rose]

If the engine doesn't have the things required for an RPG then making them from scratch will always feel like it was tacked on or something. That was the problem with Inquisition. Though it can be refined with iterations, like the UI in Andromeda doesn't suck as much.

[solid dome]

I hope it won't end up like Mass Effect Anthem

[finite dragon]

Bioware hasn't released a decent game for more than a decade

[cyan geode]

That's interesting. I imagine it requires a lot of resources to render a simulation though.

[dull orchid]

Andromeda

[steel jewel]

yeah but are gravitational anomalies strong enough to bend light? I suck at physics, someone enlighten me

[finite dragon]

They probably would bend air

[cyan geode]

Its pretty simple, if light can be bent, that would require such a strong pull that everything else would be flying towards the source

[modern dock]

If they were, you'd have a very big problem.

[finite dragon]

And air can create all kinds of visual distortions and mirages

[ashen rain]

Light*

[cyan geode]

Yes, making it seem like light is bending, when it's only an illusion.

[modern dock]

Basically, for you to see it at this distance, they would have to be so dense that they would basically behave like a small black hole. No other object we know of has the needed density to bend light and create a gravitational lens.

[ashen rain]

Light makes shadows and sunny spots, not air

[modern dock]

Then it would not be a gravity anomaly.

[finite dragon]

You dont need to bend light to have visual distortions, heatwaves can be visible in the air

[modern dock]

You can't get a small gravitational pull and the gravitational lensing of a miniature black hole at the same time.

[cyan geode]

Yes, more like a strong wind :d

[deft rose]

Well to be pedantic gravitational anomalies do behave like black holes

[finite dragon]

Our atmosphere is splittibg the visual spectrum of light making the sky blue, no gravity involved, apart from esrth gravity holgin onto the atmosphere

[ashen rain]

Heatwaves make light more visible in the air

"When the air is heated, there is a change in density, which distorts the refractive angle of light."

[steel jewel]

I mean the way it looks in the trailer, one could imagine that maybe you can see the compacted moisture from the air on the edges of the anomaly or something

[modern dock]

I've never heard of any gravitational lensing associated with these.

[finite dragon]

There you go, visual distortion without light bending achieved

[cyan geode]

Yeah, it seems to me that gravitational anomalies try to mimic how a black hole works, but at a smaller scale

[ashen rain]

It's how mirages are caused

[deft rose]

Lensing happens with any massive body. Not necessarily a black hole

[modern dock]

Would not look like that. I think we're better off remembering that these are anomalies they're not supposed to be explainable using conventional physics.

[finite dragon]

This

[steel jewel]

good point

[cyan geode]

Of course, they're meant to be very unphysical lore wise. We're just being nerds here

[modern dock]

I know, but was it demonstrated that these anomalies had the necessary mass and density to cause lensing? If you have a paper, I'd be super interested.

[ashen rain]

How can something break the laws of physics ?

[cyan geode]

space magic

[modern dock]

Well, Stalker is a game so there's that.

[steel jewel]

if the laws are wrong

[dull orchid]

If it don't like the laws

[ashen rain]

Still, it uses a physics engine 😄

[steel jewel]

that's not...

[finite dragon]

More like our physics laws they affect a fraction of what really exists

The point is, visual phenomenons can be created by a plethora of circumstances, our senses experience the laws of physics on a very subjective basis.

[ashen rain]

physics is subjective? what

[finite dragon]

Your vision is unique to your biology my dude

[ashen rain]

What about cameras and other detection methods?

[deft rose]

Lensing caused by a gravitational anomaly would be imperceptible, though the game itself shows you visual distortion because it's a game

[finite dragon]

Never trust a camera

[ashen rain]

Not just cameras lol, how do they detect particle physics?

[modern dock]

Usually, yes. But if you know the mass, distance and other parameters, you can pre-compute the lensing factors then just reuse them as you go. This is what is done for most black hole simulations, when you don't have a Tesla farm available. You can even approximate the lensing factors for unknown objects if you pre-compute some examples and extrapolate from these.

[steel jewel]

exactly, you can see infrared with a camera for example, but not with your eyes

[modern dock]

I think you missed my question. Do we know of any other singularly, apart from black holes, that could create gravitational lensing IRL?

[finite dragon]

Well you cannot see it, but translate infrared into visual spectrum

[ashen rain]

I mean particle physics, atoms and crap in a collider for example

[finite dragon]

Finally I customized my Anomaly to get rid of the awful artificial difficulty and awful vendor prices

Beyond your ability to experience first hand

[ashen rain]

wat

[finite dragon]

Particle physics

[cyan geode]

By definition only a black hole achieves the lensing effect we're all talking about, because that's coming from light being very near to the event horizon, causing it to orbit the black hole like a planet would orbit the sun.

[ashen rain]

No kidding, but we can see the effects given the circumstances

[finite dragon]

True

[deft rose]

Black holes are the only singularity we know of, other than the big bang singularity, but yes, other objects cause lensing all the time

[ashen rain]

What is lensing?

[modern dock]

Well, not really, one could imagine gravitational lensing from other massive objects, for instance a neutron star.

[steel jewel]

''But in a paper recently published in Science Advances, we show that, in the micro-world of atoms and particles that is governed by the strange rules of quantum mechanics, two different observers are entitled to their own facts. In other words, according to our best theory of the building blocks of nature itself, facts can actually be subjective.''

[dull orchid]

How did it even come to this point where we are discussing physics

[ashen rain]

Ughghg, quantum mechanics, the go to for any movie science 😄

[finite dragon]

In the context of vfx for a game and inducing a certain emotion in the player, things need not to be accurate in a physical sense, but logical in the realm of direct experience

[cyan geode]

True but as far as I know only near a black hole can you achieve the effect of looking at the back of your head from the front.

[ashen rain]

I wonder, can a black hole form in the macro-verse?

[finite dragon]

We can agree that a neutron star inside a swamp would be not cool game wise

[modern dock]

Yeah, so my point still stands: apart from a miniature black hole or other super-dense singularly, no object would cause the lensing we see in the game. And, obviously, the gravity anomaly isn't a black hole.

[finite dragon]

No, we just realized a lot of things could possibly firm a similar optical Illusion

[modern dock]

Neither would be a miniature black hole. :D

[deft rose]

No, but my point is it behaves like one. It has an event horizon beyond which you are inevitably torn apart, but outside it's business as usual

[ashen rain]

I think we can all agree that whatever a gravity anomaly is, it distorts light?

How? idk lol

[finite dragon]

It distorts a medium that might produce an optical illusion

[steel jewel]

Ok, so let's say the gravitational anomaly is actually a black hole that is turning on and off very very quickly, so it never has enough time to suck everything in but otherwise behaves like one

[cyan geode]

There's still other nasty stuff immediately next to the event horizon. Like the ability to time travel into the future, practically speaking. Like spending 10 mins near a black hole while 10 years pass on Earth.

[finite dragon]

Such as air or water, vapor, etc.

[quaint shard]

What's happening

[ashen rain]

Science debate 🙂

[quaint shard]

Hmm

[finite dragon]

We debate the superiority of unreal engine 5 over 4

[quaint shard]

Continue, I'ma just watch

[modern dock]

Yeah, that would make sense. But the mass would have to be lower than that of a miniature black hole, otherwise you'd have other problem. That's what I was saying above: it's basically a massless black hole (I know...), and the UE plugin for geodesic, curved spacetime raytracing would work perfectly.

[finite dragon]

You are late to the party

[ashen rain]

But not late enough to chime in 🙂

[modern dock]

A caveat: they would have to get rid of the redshifting part of the ting though, doppler doesn't apply in any meaningful wat here given the distances and relative velocity

[finite dragon]

Its never too late in science (why is there no ecologist emoticon here?)

[cyan geode]

In game it's basically a black hole, with next to no gravitational pull outside a boundary (the anomaly edge) and a massive, almost inescapable pull when you cross it. Not physical at all, but looks cool.

[modern dock]

You can sometimes get out of it actually, if you're lucky. It's like a weak black hole with a somewhat permissive event horizon

[finite dragon]

Sprint and bunnyhop saves almost always

When timed correctly

[cyan geode]

Technically it isn't a black hole because light can always escape it.

[ashen rain]

Just tell the anomaly it does not exists and it will let you go

[finite dragon]

And not completely overloaded (like ALWAYS)

[cyan geode]

It's a very powerful vacuum cleaner, lmao

[finite dragon]

"Its just an optical illusion, this is completely fine..."

[steel jewel]

now I want a gravity gun that's just a vacuum cleaner

[modern dock]

That you don't know. Maybe it has a tiiiiny horizon at the center that you don't see because it's too small.

[leaden hamlet]

They tend to get rather annoyed if you bring eggs into the stores. Trust me.

[ashen rain]

Lets throw bolts at it and see what happens after 1000

[cyan geode]

I guess. But lore wise it's never portrayed to be like that. Also, the fact that all gravitational anomalies need to 'charge' before they kill you strays from the black hole theory, miniature or not.

[modern dock]

True. Let's call it a gravity anomaly then

:p

[cyan geode]

What do you know, that's how it's named in the game ;dddd

[steel jewel]

maybe it's a black hole inside a reverse black hole

[finite dragon]

Good we got that out of the way, I would like to know more about UE 4 simulation of said gravitational anomaly

[cyan geode]

Imagine an anomaly like a white hole, that spits out loot that others 'crush'.

[tired anvil]

Sidewalk concrete, people do it

[modern dock]

It's a null-mass pulsing mini-black hole with a permissive event horizon and massive grav lensing. You need to be close to it at the same time as the pulse to see its effects, and if you're fast enough you can avoid beeing dragged behing the horizon.

[finite dragon]

That would so awesome, there was a mod for soc that had you manipulate Anomalies with artifacts and vice versa

Dont remember which one that was, you could use artifacts to spawn anomalies anywhere, and throw artifacts into anomalies and convert them into other artifacts

[modern dock]

You can just add a small singularity in UE4. Make an object with a strong attraction force and add pre-computed gravitational lensing around it (the lensing would have to be done on a much heavier mass than that of the object itself, of course).

[finite dragon]

I remember spamming the barrier with all kinds of anomalies to kill monos automatically when the suqads entered the army warehouses

[modern dock]

If you go that way, time and space travel using grav anomalies it is.

[cyan geode]

Pocket black hole. Crush your foes on the go! Deploys in seconds, and folds back into your pockets when you're done!

[leaden hamlet]

I know, I know. I wish I could but I wouldn't trust the concrete around the museum I'm afraid. 😅

[cyan geode]

That's pretty much the artifact mod that enabled you to spawn anomalies by saccing the artifact

[native ibex]

Saccing?

[finite dragon]

It was part of some overhaul mod like oblivion lost or something similar

[cyan geode]

sacrifice

[modern dock]

How do you fold an infinite-density object though? Also, good luck walking with a billions-tons object in your pocket. Doesn't sound practical to me.

[native ibex]

Bag of holding

[cyan geode]

Well Einstein, how does a concept like noosphere exist in reality? How do you manipulate the mass collection of humanity's thoughts by creating a super consciousness. Seems to me like someone wrote that in as a fictional story huh........

;d

[modern dock]

There was a very good book about that: using small black holes as spacecraft engines. By poking them with precise drops of matter they are able to steer the ship where they want to go by warping time and space around it.

[finite dragon]

Sounds unrealistic

[modern dock]

STALKER ISNT FICTIONNAL OK?

[modern dock]

The science was sound, theorically. The means to achieve that weren't.

[ashen rain]

I think you mean Fact 😄. Fiction is make believe stuff

[modern dock]

Also, I always found the noosphere nonsense to be the weakest point of SoC's story.

[cyan geode]

If stalker is real, that would be very convenient for households. Imagine never needing to take the trash out ever again, just chuck the bag into the anomaly and poof. No more world pollution. And they tell me the Zone is evil 😄

[leaden hamlet]

Weeeeeeeeeeell bits of it are accurate, I suppose.

[modern dock]

Technically, it blows things to pieces, it doesn't make them dissapear. You'll just spray litter all over your garden and your neighbour's.

[worn drift]

Do any one have a picture of the game pre order bonus?

[modern dock]

https://c.tenor.com/bC-2yUVVBwoAAAAM/lies-deception.gif

[finite dragon]

And entrails

[cyan geode]

Practically speaking, it does. Does the trash bag disappear? It does. Now, the fact that your neighbour is full of miniature trash is not my problem ;d

[solid dome]

www.stalker2.com has it all

[modern dock]

That's one way of seeing things I guess.

[modern dock]

Yeah. Just pray that your cat won't walk into it by mistake.

[cyan geode]

Technically, the atoms that made us be, could be coming from trash somewhere else years ago. Atoms come and go. Does that mean I'm a trash bag.....?

[modern dock]

No, you're made from star powder, king

;)

[finite dragon]

There is a religion that worships a giant pile of trash somewhere in pripyat, I think they are on to something...

[rotund lance]

maybe, but for other reasons, usually

[worn drift]

I mean for the picture of costume and weapone skins

[modern dock]

"MuNuLiTh"

[finite dragon]

They are kinda trashy dudes also...

[modern dock]

They have cool gear though.

[cyan geode]

Mom, people on the internet are calling me trash

[finite dragon]

I usually kill them on sight

[modern dock]

Me too, to collect aforementioned cool gear

[finite dragon]

If I have the time and ammo

They do have nice gun taste, I admit

[modern dock]

"Good guns, terrible religion, 4/10 would not recommend"

[cyan geode]

Well, a dutier walks past the brain scorcher, now is Monolith. So if you think about it, is that great gear really thanks to the monolith, or due to everyone else caught in their path....

[finite dragon]

Well, are tom cruise assets really tom cruises anymore?

[cyan geode]

What....

[modern dock]

I don't even understand how and why they get guns tbh. Why don't they keep the guns they already have? An A-91 gets the job done.

[finite dragon]

I was making a scientology reference

It was far fetched I guess

[cyan geode]

The only exclusive gun they have is the gauss rifle. That's about it.

So why go the extra steps, just rob duty or freedom

Or mercs

[finite dragon]

Why would I waste a mob of each of a faxtion, when the mono squads have a mix of all, and are humping bushes in red forest by the dozens :D

[cyan geode]

Or just ask Cardan for his spare gauss rifle, no need to bother with monolith ;d

The monolith are regularly the most dangerous faction you can face, that's why

[finite dragon]

Well, it is kind of a hobby of mine, not only gear related :)

Stalkers like the tingle of extreme odds sometimes

[cyan geode]

Provided you play with good mods that is.....

[modern dock]

Trey have a bunch of guns only them and the mercs have though, and the mercs are quite hard to take on as well.

[modern dock]

WHAT

[finite dragon]

You never know what a mono squad will bring to the table

[cyan geode]

Don't you know Cardan has a spare in the back of his shop, past the door?

[finite dragon]

loads up game instantaneously

[cyan geode]

He sleeps with it regularly, that's why he was so shocked when you showed him one. He was scared you abducted his wife ;ddd

[modern dock]

Bruh

I had to friggin' check

"In Call of Pripyat, only one copy of the Gauss Rifle is found, used by the first Monolith Preacher'

[cyan geode]

Also no, Item 62

[modern dock]

Lies, deception. è_é

[cyan geode]

oh wait nvm

Actually I think it was two? Might be wrong

I haven't played vanilla in years

[modern dock]

Only one as far as I am aware. Mods could change that.

Well, there's also the BigBoy variant in the testing lab, but until you find a tank, you're not moving this one. :D

[cyan geode]

Solution: shrink ray anomalies

[tired anvil]

Vanilla best

[cyan geode]

Also if I want to be an asshole technicalitist. There's two. One is Item 62, the one you get and give Cardan, he gives you the gauss rifle weapon. So in the game files there's two.

[modern dock]

In my inventory I only see one.

Akimbo-Gauss in S2 needed.

[cyan geode]

Item 62 you can't fire because it's broken. Cardan repairs it and it's now the gauss rifle. iirc

Though I wouldn't trust his repair skills, between chugging bottles of vodka and selling you duck taped home made batteries for the gauss rifle..

[modern dock]

Hey, he's kinda good though.

I mean, once you've returned the whole Zone to find him tools that cost 20 bucks on Amazon.

[cyan geode]

Nitro is more my guy....

I mean he decodes a UAV module. How can Cardan even compare...

[modern dock]

Well, I don't know.

By repairing a gauss gun for instance?

[cyan geode]

Point taken.......

[modern dock]

And doing so while drunk af, that is. 😂

[cyan geode]

He's the one who made it though so kind of cheating.......

[modern dock]

True.

[finite dragon]

Making a gauss rifle in a drunken black out is a feat in and on itself though

[modern dock]

Also, before becoming a wreck, Cardan was a high-level technician/engineer.

[quick dune]

spoiler for shadow of chernobyl ---> ||strelok dies in the end of the game||

[cyan geode]

You monster.

Also false

[quick dune]

wdym false

[cyan geode]

call of pripyat?

[quick dune]

||i killed strelok in the end||

[cyan geode]

but....

[quick dune]

no, shadow of chernobyl, are you stupid

[cyan geode]

you're strelok.....

[quick dune]

no ur not wth

[random vortex]

I am Strelok? 😳

[cyan geode]

nice meme

[quick dune]

you have to kill strelok to end the game

[finite dragon]

bruh what is that on #🟢-reddit

[quick dune]

oh wow

[cyan geode]

You also have to be this high to play the game.

You're too short I'm afraid 😭

[finite dragon]

sussy bakkas tryin to make me act up

[wary cove]

[cyan geode]

We are all strelok at heart

[finite dragon]

#🟢-reddit message

[quick dune]

is 420 years too short

[modern dock]

Well, nah.

[finite dragon]

someone tell them mods to remove dat

[wary cove]

Ahem... Mods? 😳

[cyan geode]

it's fine, I mean porn exists in the zone, therefore it's canon

[quick dune]

it has been deleted

[finite dragon]

LMAOOO

[random vortex]

Do buttplugs exist tho?

[finite dragon]

In photos yes

[quick dune]

woman doesn't exist, therefore it's not canon

[finite dragon]

woman in the zone ? impossible

[modern dock]

I hope we'll have some in S2.

[cyan geode]

There are magazines depicting women though.....

How do you explain that....

[quick dune]

no chance

[modern dock]

Why so?

[quick dune]

why would there be any reason to be a woman in the zone

[dusk token]

[quick dune]

woman doesn't get truth about zone

[finite dragon]

woman

[quick dune]

zone is a secret and not many know about it especially women in this scenario

[tired anvil]

@finite dragon you know, sending the message links of that trash won't help you

[quick dune]

viper 🤨

[random vortex]

@finite dragon You're about to get a spanking. 😳

[finite dragon]

Well i kinda like woman being in the zone but if they wear sexy outfit, imma shoot them in sight

[quick dune]

why are you turning on the boys

[cyan geode]

Maybe because, I don't know, some women also want to earn money? It's not hard to assume that a reason a man is in the zone could also be a reason for a woman to be in it as well......

[modern dock]

For the same reason that there are women in the USMC or on the ISS. Because some have a higher testosterone level than most men, even if that's a minority.

[quick dune]

how would a woman know about the zone

[modern dock]

Well, like a men would.

[quick dune]

if limited people know about it anyways

[finite dragon]

bro you hate woman? Nice

[quick dune]

only in clear sky i heard a woman

and she wasn't even sitting in the kitchen

[cyan geode]

Kind of hard to miss a massive puff of smoke, world bending anomalies, military cordons. But yeah, the zone is definitely a secret...

[modern dock]

For instance, a lab assistant working in Kiev on artifacts brought by the scientists, or a female soldier deserting.

[quick dune]

woman in zone = more r-word scenarios

man in zone = murder

[cyan geode]

Also, brothels in the zone? Massive profits. Think big here.

[modern dock]

Depends on the women we speak of.

[quick dune]

why would they build a brothel

are you ok in the head

[modern dock]

Peggy Whitson-like women are a thing.

[cyan geode]

Well, ignoring the logistical reasons, because men exist?

[flat prism]

Oh god, I hope it doesn't get delayed a million times

[modern dock]

And they would kick your ass and mine. :D

[quick dune]

i think only one woman was in the zone before, why would another wave of them come

[modern dock]

Because money?

[quick dune]

im not talking about money idiot

[modern dock]

...

[finite dragon]

the reason people come to zone to make money not being a prostitute in there right

[dull orchid]

I remember hearing something about female stalkers will be in S2 but don't know

[cyan geode]

Prostitutes earn money. Checkmate.

[finite dragon]

freedom are very excited to see a prostitute

[cyan geode]

Especially in gray skin and a mouthful of tentacles. Mmmm, sexy.

Really gets the juices flowing

[quick dune]

[finite dragon]

but what are they sucking

[dull orchid]

blood

[modern dock]

Stahp.

[finite dragon]

yes but there's another thing but i don't know what is it

[quick dune]

sucking your brain because you clearly went insane

no blood flowing into your brain now is it

[cyan geode]

https://youtu.be/P8Varx9Y08k?t=125

They do this. Never go undergound

[finite dragon]

[cyan geode]

Why do you think Duty wanted to destroy agroprom underground....

[modern dock]

Dooty sucks.

[modern dock]

Liberty are the real chads.

[dapper charm]

yo do monolith forces drop live grenades (martyrdom), when knocked down, but not dead (or is it anomaly thing)

[cyan geode]

Spoken like a true freedomer.

[finite dragon]

join mercs and bandit

[cyan geode]

Not in vanilla.

[modern dock]

"Meh we'll see how it goes with that Zone thingie" is what takes real courage.

[dull orchid]

Monolith is the true way

[modern dock]

You literal braindead (see what I did there?)

[dapper charm]

I was playing anomaly today and while coming close to one monolith soldier, I managed to injure him and while he fell to the ground into the injure state, live grenade also dropped on him

[modern dock]

Mercs are cool. No-nonsense, money-oriented guys. I can get behind that.

Bandits are like, low-cost mercs no one want to hire.

[dapper charm]

so I was wondering if it was a lucky timing that he started cooking the nade before I knocked him down or if they did it intentionally

[cyan geode]

Yeah, everyone else bullshits you with their grand idea for a better zone, or a dead zone, or an explored zone. Mercs are all about that dosh.

[finite dragon]

rule 3 moment

[modern dock]

If you down them with a nade at hand, this happens. They don't kill themselves on purpose.

[dapper charm]

oh okay, thanks for the info

[modern dock]

This. Ca$h is where it's at.

[dapper charm]

would be kinda hardcore mechanic that they would go out like this if you were close to them

[modern dock]

perk unlocked: down with me. Deals damage to the opposing player when killed

[native ibex]

What are you guys talkin' about? Call of Duty?

[finite dragon]

@tired anvil #🟢-reddit

is it better dis way ? 😳 👉 👈

[tired anvil]

Yes

[pseudo yoke]

Retail version when

[native ibex]

2023, second quarter, should be announced when we get the delay notification early next year

[kind lake]

ey retail ultimate edition is cool

guess ill starve a bit, but with zone map

[finite dragon]

11,5 years for 2033

Just a friendly reminder

[stark steppe]

Good job, now all you have to do is look at your 60km map

[kind lake]

and at artefact lamp

[native ibex]

*with artefact lamp

But yeah, I want my crack at it

Hopefully they threw a few things that need to be handled manually in, so as to curb a few bots

Maybe throw in an essay somewhere in the checkout process

[pseudo yoke]

No

Just 1 per person

[kind lake]

context is "stare at artefact map" due to "look at your 60km map"

[finite dragon]

@tired anvil #🟢-reddit

[tired anvil]

We know

[frail spire]

S2 should have a "Please don't step into the power plant in real life" disclaimer

[native ibex]

I think it lost on you

[native ibex]

More like "please do"

[finite dragon]

Damn it's a shame that Sergey lost Gargon this week
What a nice man he was

[worthy lark]

Mans so bad at living he had the martyrdom death streak active

[finite dragon]

@worthy lark ayo ryder did u hear that Sergey lost Gargon this week

Yk radar is a harsh place if you are under geared

I like had a 1 v 8 with heavily geared monolith and I was just alone with out any ammo almost no meds

Why tf did you go to radar without extra ammo supplies

Holy crap

[solid dome]

Nope - Don't enter naked not to become impotent

[vague mirage]

Does anybody know if we are getting a digital version of the physical edition map if we pre order just the digital ed? Sorry for the convoluted way I asked this

[tired anvil]

You mean like a download of the map that'll be in the physical edition?

[hazy helm]

there aint gonna be smth like that

[vague mirage]

Yeah, like a .pdf or something

[hazy helm]

no

[vague mirage]

Thanks!

[quick portal]

Hi all

Cheeki breeki xD

[finite dragon]

Henlo there

Ah i finally arrived to the Zone

[hazy helm]

dude,uncool

[tired anvil]

We don't know that

There might tbh

[hazy helm]

its not on the preorder sheet?its not gonna be

[tired anvil]

Well, if it's the map from in-game, I imagine it'll be in the files somewhere, no?

[hazy helm]

on the internet after someone digitalizes the map yes

[tired anvil]

Guess it'll depend on how close the map is to what we see in the game

I don't think it'll be long till it's out there tbh

[quaint trout]

X---DDDDD Life of boris
Slav squad vodka mayonez, amrite guys?

[hazy helm]

[finite dragon]

well like i had 100 rounds for some gun

found somewhere a p90

a lot of snipers and ammo for it and meds well yeah saves and reloads are your best friend

[hazy helm]

mods I assume

[finite dragon]

yeah call of chernobyl

[hazy helm]

yep

[finite dragon]

gotta love roleplaying as an errand boy

like i am just doing kill missions

i am going to cordon now didnt want to go through the red forest

and i am also thinking of just doing a lot of quests in low level areas

and trying to sell all my guns get some money for upgrades

[quaint trout]

Man, plaiyng anomaly, i had to rely too often on trashy guns and old ammo... Especially in Red Forest.

[finite dragon]

i like just said f that poop

[hazy helm]

no comments

[civic fiber]

some of the mods go too far xD

[finite dragon]

and just lazerd through it

like i just ran ran like forest gump

and tbh red forest isnt that scary in call of chernobyl

[keen abyss]

There a way to further reduce the sensitivity in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: SoC?

[finite dragon]

maybe in the game files

in configs i dunno i am just guessing

[keen abyss]

Found it

[frail spire]

Why would you reduce it further, are your arms 3 meters long or something

[polar zealot]

Hello does anyone have experience with modding stalker?

[keen abyss]

Complicated to explain, but I play on a DPI of 1.6k and a sens of 2, in Stalker - at the lowest, it's super fast

In the end I had to switch over to a setting of a DPI of 600 and sens of 8

[polar zealot]

I put the arsenal overhaul files in the 'gamedata' folder that I created is this right?

Playing on CoC btw

[blissful coyote]

chads play base game with no mods

[finite dragon]

Just finished the stalker movie

[polar zealot]

No help here I guess

[finite dragon]

10/10 movie

[solid dome]

Officially I doubt

[finite dragon]

i played it but it is also fun to just go sandboxing

[blissful coyote]

bruh

[frail spire]

Chads play whatever they want and call other people choices bad

Even if they play the same thing as you

[lyric forge]

Why yes I disregard anyone’s opinion without explanation how could you tell?

[finite dragon]

the only good option is my option

and i hope we will get tabs for the guitar songs

thoughts on trailer

[tired anvil]

Waiting for raw gameplay

[hybrid raven]

wait theres new trailer?

besides e3 one?

[tired anvil]

Nope

[hybrid raven]

Im hoping for something as iconic as dirge for planet

With the same mood and chill atmosphere.

[misty tusk]

its only 8 months

we're probably gonna see something new soon

[lyric forge]

I just want mercs added to S2, doesn’t look like they’ll be doing that though

[misty tusk]

why?

[hybrid raven]

Why not? They left the mystery about their mission in the zone unanswered.

[finite dragon]

mercs will always be their

[lyric forge]

1. Look at my faction role
2. I wanna pay people to be killed or do contract killing
   We also got cut content from SoC from Mercs main base near military warehouses and I want them to expand on them, they don’t get much coverage like other factions in the zone.
   It only makes sense to add them

[finite dragon]

there will be always people who need soething from the zone and who do you call either the mercs or the ecogs

[lyric forge]

Just call (1)-800-The-Merc for 10% off next contract killing. That’s (1)-800-The-Merc for discounts

[terse tusk]

For my first playthrough should I play with mods and if so what mods

[finite dragon]

real stalker do the hunting themselfs

[finite dragon]

non just non

the bugs are the experience

[terse tusk]

and dont hit your hand with the pistol

[misty tusk]

I asked why you think mercs arent being added

[hybrid raven]

play vanilla bro

[terse tusk]

ok is there any tips I should take

[lyric forge]

Oh, I glanced at the ultimate edition items that are being included in the deal, if you zoom in on the badges they offer, you only see monolith, Duty, Freedumb, and loners.

[hybrid raven]

yes, expect some funny bugs, and maybe a crash or two

[misty tusk]

ok so how does that prove that mercs arent being added

[terse tusk]

what faction should I do I am thinking duty (its a joke)

[misty tusk]

tell me exactly why

[hybrid raven]

freedumb 🤣

[lyric forge]

No don’t play with mods your first play through lol...
Experience the game for what it was by the devs, then mod it, or you’ll ruin your expectations later if you decide to play vanilla.
That’s a no brainer

[rotund lance]

imma say mercs probably merged with some other faction

maybe bandits

[misty tusk]

by your logic bandits, military and ecologists also arent being added @lyric forge

[hybrid raven]

hey you dont see me complaining about Clear Sky being limited to a single game in series)

[rotund lance]

could be that gsc didn't want spoilers in the goodies and thus didn't show the new patches

[lyric forge]

We won’t know till the games released but I doubt they will. I don’t see why they’d NOT include them as accessories for fans to own if they have them in the game.

[edgy narwhal]

Somebody who can donate me a bit of money for Stalker 2 collectors edition? I have job but not that Well payed.

[misty tusk]

ok then why are you saying mercs are probably not coming

[edgy narwhal]

I need to own it before i die.

[misty tusk]

wait for a sale when it comes out

[lyric forge]

I’m just doubting they’ll get added with the factions they didn’t present as items for the ultimate edition. I could be wrong but I’m standing on this high till I see otherwise.

[misty tusk]

again by your logic military, bandits and ecologists arent getting added either

[edgy narwhal]

Collectors edition on sale? Doubt

[misty tusk]

wait for the game to come out and buy it on sale

no one is going to give you money, especially if you just come here to beg

[tired anvil]

I'm sure you can get enough in 10 months

[edgy narwhal]

I was Just jk wtf

[tired anvil]

I mean that's nice, a lot aren't though

[edgy narwhal]

Rude toxic

[misty tusk]

cry about it

[lyric forge]

I’ll stand on that too, they may not get added. So I’ll just add in that too.

[finite dragon]

what did you expect

that we would give you money think again kiddo

[edgy narwhal]

You will cry when i hit you to the face

[misty tusk]

terrified

[edgy narwhal]

Yes and

[misty tusk]

petrified even

[edgy narwhal]

I hope so

[tired anvil]

Those are just examples. It was the case in 2008 yet there were patches for all factions

[edgy narwhal]

But collectors edition will be on sale about few days right?@tired anvil

[tired anvil]

It will be up for sale, as in you can buy it. Not a discount

[edgy narwhal]

I mean ready for buying

[tired anvil]

Yea

[thorn hedge]

The Ultimate edition of the retail including the game too or we will order it separately??

[misty tusk]

why even buy collector's edition in specific

[tired anvil]

All retail editions include the game

[edgy narwhal]

I really wanna that nice artbook and Stalker figure

[misty tusk]

if you don't have the money it would be better to just buy the normal version

[silk sparrow]

stalkers figure is main reason to buy retail

also map

[edgy narwhal]

That collectors edition is for Steam?

[misty tusk]

no

physical copy/disc

[tired anvil]

No

Steam key

[silk sparrow]

any plans to put old stalker games on sale this summer?

[misty tusk]

oh the physical version has a steam key?

[tired anvil]

Retail = Steam key
Digital = Epic Games, Steam key, Microsoft etc

[edgy narwhal]

So for stram

[tired anvil]

Yep

[misty tusk]

oh thats good

[tired anvil]

They go on sale quite often, will most likely be in the summer sale as well

[misty tusk]

I was worried it didnt

[edgy narwhal]

Yeah i wanna have it on Steam not FK epic

[lyric forge]

Why would they exclude content like that for fans of any factions if that was the case?

[terse tusk]

what type of lighting should I have

[river turtle]

Hey any word on pricing of the collectors edition

[tired anvil]

They don't exclude, they just show an example of how the patches/material look in general

[tired anvil]

The website has all of it

[misty tusk]

where is retail shipping available

[river turtle]

Dang that’s a hefty tag

[misty tusk]

is it worldwide shipping

[tired anvil]

We don't know yet, though probably

[misty tusk]

hopefully

[pseudo yoke]

It is not available yet

[misty tusk]

my country is pretty weird with shipping

[thorn hedge]

I have to pay 350$ in euro (280€) lol

[river turtle]

I got enough dollars question is will they pull a fallout 76 with the quality

[tired anvil]

Judging from the merch I already have from GSC, I think it'll be fine

Granted mine is small compared to what's being given out now, but the quality is pretty good

[river turtle]

Aight cool, is there a limit on how many they are making? Like do I gotta jump on now or can I wait

[misty tusk]

I'm eyeing collector's and ultimate

[tired anvil]

They said that there is but they didn't mention what's the number or time range of buying them

[misty tusk]

I really like the lamp

[river turtle]

L A M P

Tap into that moth brain

[thorn hedge]

I WANT THE LAMP

And the backpack

[river turtle]

I’m not too worried about the game being jank, can always say it’s just another anomaly, I’m worried bout L A M P

[polar vault]

pro-lamp here

[quaint trout]

Man, i dont care about the Backpack. But i am so hot for the figure and the lamp. ❤️

[river turtle]

I’m now moderately worried since I clicked the pre order now button and then the website crashed

[thorn hedge]

I love the figure too 🥰

[river turtle]

I didn’t accidentally order something right?

[quaint trout]

Worst case is: We get a troublesome game, but the modders will fix it.

[river turtle]

Bro it’s just being authentic to the orignal experience

[misty tusk]

literally would be fine with good atmosphere and story

if everything else is messed up modders can probably fix it

other than the game actually running

[river turtle]

I need something to tide me over till metro says if they’ll make anything else or not

[misty tusk]

I tried playing metro but I hated it

[quaint trout]

I agree with @misty tusk - Atmosphere and story is most important for stalker.

[thorn hedge]

I have the Exodus gold edition

[quaint trout]

Idk, i dont feel Metro Exodus that much. 2033 was amazing. ❤️

[river turtle]

I have exodus and all the DLC’s, I really wanted that lighter

[tired anvil]

Can't order yet so you're fine

[frail spire]

2033 was peak metro, everything else is a meme

[river turtle]

Wdym, last light scavenger DLC is peak metro

[misty tusk]

2033 sucks ass

[frail spire]

Nothing beats the experience of you and your bro walking down a hidden path while he warns you to not listen to the pipes as they call you gay

[river turtle]

listens to the pipes
takes damage
Shoulda listened man

[finite dragon]

singing pipes

[quaint trout]

[misty tusk]

I played it and I didnt like it

at all

[river turtle]

You see he is the gigachad and we are the soyjack we can’t possibly refute his argument

[tired anvil]

Don't care, play more Clear Sky

[finite dragon]

Looks like someone used all of their old world bullets as ammo early and never recovered

[quaint trout]

Man, i just wish you could enjoy 2033 :X

[tired anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/836176953912066058/ClearSkyMyBeloved.gif

[misty tusk]

I might not like clear sky but it sure is better than metro 2033

[frail spire]

Now lets not go overboard

[quaint trout]

Ouch.

[misty tusk]

I'm being honest

I really didn't like metro 2033

[frail spire]

I'm all for saying that stalker is a good franchise but the first metro gave me the same experience I had with SoC and the atmosphere

Also using ammo as currency was great

[quaint trout]

Indeed. It makes btw much more sense than bottle caps...

[polar vault]

Trooper, you must be fun at parties.

[quaint trout]

Still Fallout NV was based and postapoc-pilled.

[misty tusk]

its just an opinion

[frail spire]

NV was good until I had to deal with those rag-wearing red homos

[misty tusk]

if you don't like it thats your problem

[river turtle]

Fallout three was fun, everything was green and looked really dingy and beat up

[quaint trout]

Fallout 4 was a mess, and 76... Well, i've seen flesh surviving vortex anomalies looking better than that.

[river turtle]

Now the real question, will there be a inspect option on weapons in game so I can spin my knife for 5 minutes

Just like the trailers showed

[solid dome]

Someone expected a game product not to include the game itself?

[river turtle]

It’s happened before, mass affect adromeda collectors no game included

[frail spire]

Lmao ME:A

[river turtle]

Glad to know I’ll get the game with the fun stuff

[tired anvil]

If you found my answer, I imagine you found the question as well

[frail spire]

I never laughed as hard as that

[quaint trout]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-oh-no-no-no-grin-laughin-evil-laugh-gif-15053496

Oh boy this is just art

[solid dome]

Never played that, never cared tbh

[river turtle]

Bro im picking up all the hours I can at work, I need to get a new fishing reel and bait as well as the collectors edition

[solid dome]

Never ever knew also

[river turtle]

I haven’t played it either I just knew it didn’t come with the game, because like EA

[finite lark]

guys im searching for a stalker mod (soc ) for making the game look better and im loss a lots of name poped ( AA 2.1, radiophobia 2 etcc) and i just want to know if someone have an advice for me

[tired anvil]

I only have advice if you've never played the game

[indigo wind]

I have played both AA 2.1 and Radiophobia, game crashed every time I went to another location or sometimes just randomly.

[finite lark]

not radiophobia 1 the second one

what, radiophobia or AA 2.1?

[indigo wind]

AA 2.1 crashed every time there was a blowout and in Radiophobia I had to quicksave before changing locations because sometimes that would corrupt my save.

I'd just go vanilla if I were you. Especially if it's your first playthrough.

[finite lark]

i just want a mod for better graphics xdd why these mods need to be so complicated for only a better looking game

[tired anvil]

Because the game looks good without mods and vanilla is perfectly fine

[finite lark]

[indigo wind]

There are mods that change nothing about gameplay and just modify the textures but they are not just "a better looking game". They severely alter the artstyle and do not really remind the way the game is supposed to look.

If you're looking for a mod that just makes the game HD, then look no further. There is none.

[finite lark]

kk thx

[indigo wind]

No problem, I faced the exact same issue several months ago when I first installed stalker.

[quaint trout]

If you are playing for the first time, i recommend playing vanilla.

[finite lark]

yea i just finded a mod named the starter pack i looked through a lil bit and i dont see that it changes really the game, or im just blind and didnt saw, halp

[tired anvil]

Vanilla best, ignore all mods for a first playthrough

[indigo wind]

I haven't played this one but just looking at screenshots reveals broken gloss.

If you just want to play the game for the first time and learn what it is about, ignore third party modifications and just launch it.

[finite dragon]

Then there's how I did it by installing the starter pack mod which just genuinely made it more fun for me

[finite lark]

????

didnt understand what were you trying to say

[tired anvil]

He's saying go vanilla (tejas that is)

[finite dragon]

I didn't play vanilla is what I'm trying to say

The starter pack mod is a drag and drop process, and a painless experience

[finite lark]

just asking ( srry i ask a lot ) but does it change to the story or not, bcause if it dont i really like to mod and i dont want to miss ANYTHING about the game, i love it and yk dont wanna miss anything ( talking abt Starter pack )

[indigo wind]

Why would you advise a version of the game specifically catered to your needs instead of the one devs intended and approved?

[quaint trout]

Some mods do that, like Lost Alpha or Anomaly.

Play the vanilla. Ignore mods for your first playthrough. Trust me.

[finite dragon]

I'm not gonna argue about anything tedious like "the devs intentions", all I'll say is that the starter pack mod doesn't alter anything to do with the story and just makes it look better

[indigo wind]

It does not change the story. But S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is not just about the story. It's about the world. How it looks. How it sounds. What it consists of.

Again, there is not a single mod that just modifies the game's textures and leaves the overall artstyle intact. Either you sacrifice the actual style of the Zone just to get few additional polygons or a 2K texture, or you go vanilla.

You will always have an opportunity to try out mods if you'd like. But for your first experience, the one that is going to lay the foundation of your S.T.A.L.K.E.R. experience, please play the way devs intended - in all regards, not just the story.

[tired anvil]

I like you

[indigo wind]

I know you do, gaj.

[finite lark]

okok im gonna do that but lil issue, the mod add a sleepin bag, and its in the inventory, im scared that it will destroy my saves

[tired anvil]

No mods it is, problem solved

[finite lark]

im gonna take them out rn

[indigo wind]

Don't forget to start a new game. A save made with any mod that adds something new in the game world (placed on ground, put in yours or NPC's inventory) will be incompatible with vanilla.

[finite lark]

thx guys, im a huge metro fan ( from books and game ) and i wanna try the S.T.A.L.K.E.R experience

[tired anvil]

Have fun

[hushed aurora]

Have fun and good luck

[indigo wind]

Fun fact - the Metro 2033 book was written after a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. dev promised the author to make a game about it.

Originally it was a short web novel that ended with Artem's suicide. But current CEO of 4A Games contacted the author and asked to make a whole book.

[tired anvil]

And the Metro games were made by some of the original Stalker devs

[indigo wind]

Yes, but I supposed that is common knowledge, unlike this fact.

[finite lark]

i knew that stalker and metro team were directly linked ( with references in metro games and i dont remember if there is in the books ) but yea wow

have a lil problem how do i take the mod out, idk what files to take out and not destroy the game

[tired anvil]

Well, if he's new to the games then it's 50/50

[indigo wind]

Remove gamedata folder. If you're on Steam, also do an integrity verify.

[finite lark]

okok thx

i did it, i started my saves and the game crashed xdd ( gonna retry )

[hushed aurora]

Make a new game

[indigo wind]

Don't forget to start a new game. A save made with any mod that adds something new in the game world (placed on ground, put in yours or NPC's inventory) will be incompatible with vanilla.

[keen abyss]

Is there anywhere I can put my items in Cordon? (SoC)

[indigo wind]

Anywhere. NPCs don't take them.

[finite lark]

im in idiot gonna restart from 0, time to play the game for real

[indigo wind]

Any stash, any camp box, your own box in Sid's bunker.

[keen abyss]

Ah okay, thanks

[flat prism]

Will S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 have emissions?

[lavish tartan]

no, stalker its not a bank)

[flat prism]

?

[devout ibex]

Hello STALKERS. Nice to meet each one of you. I have a question. Are you having issues trying to order the Ultimate retail version?. When I try to order it it says that it will be available soon, so I do not know if it is something that will be available, or for sure it will not be available at all in the country where I live. If someone can explain this to me please, thanks in advance STALKERS.

[finite lark]

its not available now it will be soon

[devout ibex]

Oh I see, thank you I thought I was having issues and I searched info about it and I wasn't able to find anything, but thank you for letting me know, Blowtyy.

[minor seal]

Don't be fooled Blowtyy, that's a tank, not a man. It will blow up your computer using 120mm APFSDS-T rounds.

[finite lark]

OHH I DIDNT NOTICE NOOO, i need to run

since my computer cant run, im just gonna pray for him to survive

[devout ibex]

Hahaha, Funny. No my name is Jonathan, I hope we can have Stalker 2 next year, without any delay.

[static sparrow]

you can pre purchase on steam, it's available there

[finite lark]

i hope the retail version come the 28 april

[minor seal]

The retail version is on steam? The one with fancy goodies?

[finite lark]

no only the game key if you want the retail you gonna need to wait a lil

[minor seal]

That's what I thought, mmk

[devout ibex]

Well you know I want to purchase a retail version, because it has a lot of interesting items that called my attention, and for sure I'll go with that one.

[finite lark]

[finite dragon]

god i hope gsc turns back on the whole pre-order bonus fiasco and shows some unscripted gameplay

that would bring down the doomers quite a bit

[devout ibex]

No the versions from Steam are digital only, but they come with some extra missions, side quests but the ultimate one which is the one that I want includes all this plus all the fancy stuffs that you can see in their website. I haven't purchase a special version before, so this will be my first time purchasing a special edition, in my case for PC, so I am really excited.

[static sparrow]

yes I pre purchase the ultimate pack thingy on steam, but I ask the mods they say you will have to wait for few days

[devout ibex]

For real I want the Retail Ultimate version, people. It looks amazing.

[finite lark]

we all know its not gonna be few days 😭

[devout ibex]

Oh really?. I did not know about it, I was trying to purchase directly from the website. And yeah, for sure it will take a while to have all the content.

[static sparrow]

could be but be patience 😂

[finite lark]

im gonna wait as long as i need, im looking every DAYS on the site to see if its on

[devout ibex]

Me too.

[bold lion]

Just wait, they'll send a message informing us when it's ready.

[static sparrow]

ayy bro we are waiting for the true messiah 😂 😂

[devout ibex]

Or just subscribe your e'mail like I did. I don't like all this spam advertisement stuffs, but for STALKER 2, I really want to know when I'll be able to give my credit card, haha lol.

[finite lark]

Gsc take all my money i just want the retail version xd

[devout ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

[sage minnow]

Hello lads

[hallow solstice]

stalker 2 specs still make me shiver.

[soft ice]

Anyone know about the new mutants in stalker 2

[barren lion]

Damn recommended gpu is a 2070 super thats gonna be rough for alot of people