⭐┃nospoilers_general

[tired anvil]

They said Steam, Vasim

[simple tusk]

worked for epic, **** them

[hazy helm]

No you said they asked which

[silver arrow]

No swearing in the room, guys

[simple basalt]

Chivalry 2 epic only until year after release

[hazy helm]

I'm sorry man,I know EGS is super wack,let it all out

[simple tusk]

there's not enough space in this chat to let that out

[hazy helm]

I invite you to #💬┃en_offtop then

[simple tusk]

haha 😄

Is there any more information about the actual game mechanics, rpg elements, gameplay etc? The graphics is great and all, but it doesn't make the game.

[simple basalt]

Wait

[chilly burrow]

In the second trailer the pda is a physical 3D model

[hazy helm]

Not really,since the design docs of S2011 have nothing to do with this one,the gameplay is on the trailer jut with dumbed down AI and god mode with VFX in max levels,at least my theory

[simple tusk]

As someone who fell in love with the game back in 2007, and i still play it along with all the mods, my biggest concern is who is the game made for.

[simple basalt]

They probably did it like that so the trailer would be shorter. Stalker gameplay is a lot slower at times.

[simple tusk]

Will it get dumbed down etc...

[hazy helm]

Too early to know

[simple basalt]

Wait

[solid prism]

Eveything is a physical model and picked up by hand.From the looks of it.I like this,makes the game moe immersive

[frail spire]

I'm guessing that since it's gonna get released for consoles it will definetly be dumbed down

[hazy helm]

:reminds of how fast you were in SoC: mhm

[simple basalt]

I don’t like the grab animation

[simple tusk]

there's that...

[simple basalt]

Not really no

[frail spire]

So we must hope for mods to fix the game

[simple basalt]

Read the faq

[solid prism]

But it's better than no animation

[chilly burrow]

That’s guy hoped out of his cover to throw a nade and didn’t instantly implode

[solid prism]

[simple basalt]

Not really

[hazy helm]

Not really,would be better no animation at all

[frail spire]

Animation times can kill you and are annoying on the long run

[solid prism]

But realistic

[simple basalt]

Well that’s not why I don’t like it

[hazy helm]

Metro anims def

[simple basalt]

“Realistic”

[hazy helm]

Stalker isn't supposed to be this realistic shooter tho

What are you on a out?

[frail spire]

If you want realism go play a milsim or escape from asskov

[simple basalt]

I’d it’s not like EFT I’m not buying!

[simple basalt]

Don’t

[frail spire]

I don't want to spend 2-3 seconds watching an animation that I have to repeat 300 times

[chilly burrow]

Ever played escape from monkey island on steam

[simple basalt]

If it looked nice I’d be fine with it

Immersive is different than realistic

[hazy helm]

Realism can be immersive but immersion isn't depandant and more than not is separated from realism

[simple basalt]

Like FC2

[hazy helm]

Darkwood is immersive,sure isn't realistic

[simple tusk]

Everyone has their own idea about what makes up the best STALKER experience. This will be really hard to balance by the devs. Mods are the solution.

[hazy helm]

OG games

[simple basalt]

Mods are not the solution

[frail spire]

Yeah, since UE brags so much about muh models we'll get a mod that gets rid of animations alltogether

[simple tusk]

Regarding the guns, i really do hope they find a way to make the guns seem less "glowy" and "plastic" like they do in every single Unreal Engine game out there. Tarkov/Metro have done a great job, but they use a different engine.

[simple basalt]

Well I mean they did come out in the early 2000s lmao

[frail spire]

And yes, mods fix trash opinions and mechanichs/animations

See skyrim as a whole

[simple basalt]

Modding is not really necessary for stalker

Shouldn’t anyways

[hazy helm]

Dude...uncool

[frail spire]

Without modding there would be no stalker 2

[hazy helm]

Dude... uncool

[simple basalt]

Bruh you’re joking right?

[simple tusk]

@simple basalt just gonna ignore the past 14 years of the game's recipe for success?

[solid prism]

Yeah and they 've been inspired by a lot of mods for stalker 2 aswell

[deft rose]

Insurgency Sandstorm and Squad have great guns.

[frail spire]

The game has been literally kept alive via mods

[hazy helm]

Let's forget the problems with Sandstorm,(2014 better fite me)

[frail spire]

Are you gonna just pretend that it isn't true now because we get a new game?

[simple tusk]

i play both, and yes, i agree that the models are great, there is just something about the lighting/texturing that rubs me the wrong way, makes the guns look plastic....not sure how to explain it realy

[deft rose]

Guns are not the problem with Sandstorm.

[simple basalt]

Facts

[frail spire]

It's like saying bethesda got this far thanks to their absolutely abhorrent games and not to the massive modding community keeping them alive

[chilly burrow]

It’s map design and removal of trucks

[hazy helm]

:looks at imbalance:

Mhm

[chilly burrow]

That too

[simple basalt]

Bruh

[simple tusk]

:looks at fast paced arcade gameplay"
I really hoped insurgency would build upon the Source mod from late 2000's that I've played, alas that did not happen. Used to be much more Hardcore

[chilly burrow]

I hope there’s food and med animations

[hazy helm]

Wouldn't be wrong,Skyrim and FO4 somehow still have vannila supporters somehow

[chilly burrow]

Mods kindle the franchise flame far after release

[deft rose]

Lol insurgency 2014 had fast paced gameplay, with specific tactics depending on the map. It was hardly tactical in a general sense like Squad.

[simple tusk]

i don't remember saying anything about 2014 insurgency.....I was referring to the MOD for CS:Source that started it all

[frail spire]

In fact companies like beth got so much money for FREE due to modders that they thought their games were good and made 76

[chilly burrow]

Lol yeah

[hazy helm]

veteran

[frail spire]

On top of that they tried to take hold of modded content via creation club which backfired fantastically

[chilly burrow]

Economy

[frail spire]

Because they went "I'm sure the dumb modders will totally work for pennies" and got their heads shoved up their asses so hard that it was almost funny

[hazy helm]

Tho this is a stalker channel #💬┃en_offtop

[frail spire]

And modding isn't stalker related?

[hazy helm]

Bethesda isnt

[frail spire]

This whole conversation started because someone said "stalker doesn't needs modding"

[chilly burrow]

The suppressor equip was awesome

[hazy helm]

[deft rose]

I haven't played the original mod but from what I've seen the 2014 standalone game is just an improved version of that mod.

[chilly burrow]

What’s the best stalker game in your opinion?

[solid prism]

It's CS or ban

[hazy helm]

SoC

[frail spire]

Hard to say, liked them all

[grizzled peak]

CP

[solid prism]

CoP

[grizzled peak]

it has best mechanics among other games

[frail spire]

True

[minor seal]

Original, CoP. Overall, the Anomaly mod.

[hazy helm]

[deft rose]

Most polished? CoP. Best memorable moments? SoC.

[hazy helm]

Eww

[grizzled peak]

and it has clear sky armor

[frail spire]

CoP was the best game mechanically, from an atmosphere view I have to say SoC hands down

[chilly burrow]

I like the story telling in SoC and the mechanics in CoP but clear sky was, I dunno clear sky

[frail spire]

Clear sky didn't knew what it was so it was meh on most aspects

[simple tusk]

if lack of tactics and fast paced gameplay with unrealistic weapon customization is an improvement to you then yeah

[grizzled peak]

i don't know what to say tbh, nostalgia says that SC is better atmospherically, but CP has some very good moments as well

[chilly burrow]

Does the new one have the giant franken-map?

[grizzled peak]

would be cool

[chilly burrow]

I’d say SC for story

[frail spire]

Oh sure CoP has it's moments too, but I still remember going to the agro lab for the first time clearly meanwhile for CoP I have to make some memory

[empty lava]

Saw that there's going to be multiplayer in 2. Is this going to be like the half baked clear skies multiplayer or some sort of coop? Any info on this?

[deft rose]

Jupiter underground was amazing in CoP. But then SoC had Agropom underground, labs etc.

[hazy helm]

Dude all this chat is wack,tho right on some stuff

[grizzled peak]

SC has a lot of underground

[pseudo rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/836176953912066058/ClearSkyMyBeloved.gif

[solid prism]

Took you long enough

[grizzled peak]

and in SC has like, 3 iirc

[frail spire]

Yeah CoP jupiter along bringing everyone was pretty dope

[grizzled peak]

best moment in all games imo

[chilly burrow]

Sir, your tactics confuse and scare me

[hazy helm]

CS is great

[tired anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/836176953912066058/ClearSkyMyBeloved.gif

[hazy helm]

CoP is the worst in the series

[grizzled peak]

funny how my favorite faction is in worst game

[chilly burrow]

I love counter strike

[grizzled peak]

[finite dragon]

ITS INSAIDE ME NOAAAA

[pseudo rivet]

Interception?

[grizzled peak]

how (how)

[hazy helm]

Dumb down on story,lore,gameplay feel

[grizzled peak]

lore haven't changed????

[frail spire]

dumbed down gameplay
CoP
Nice opinion there

[grizzled peak]

gameplay is 10 times better

[pseudo rivet]

Oof

[finite dragon]

Best Stalker games ranked:

1. Clear Sky 1.5.00
2. Clear Sky
3. Shadow of Chernobyl
4. Shadow of Chernobyl 1.004
5. Stalker 2 (2011)
6. Call of Pripyat

[grizzled peak]

story is eh, i agree, but still

[sand oar]

CS is pretty great

[hazy helm]

Gameplay feel

Like I said

[grizzled peak]

wdym by gameplay feel

[frail spire]

That list has a game it hasn't come out yet

[robust forge]

It did though

[hazy helm]

Leaks

[pseudo rivet]

Okay, the cool thing about CoP is the new inventory and upgrade system

[frail spire]

Gameplay feel is subjective, thats like using meme words like "soul"

[tired anvil]

And getting the homies

[pseudo rivet]

And some small pieces of lore, like Duty existing in 2006 and aerial anomalies

[hazy helm]

Atmosphere mostly and mals

[frail spire]

Mechanically CoP did everything right were the other games were meh-horrible at best

[hazy helm]

Maps

[grizzled peak]

so true

[hazy helm]

Mechanically is chose CS tho

[pseudo rivet]

But lore-wise, look-wise, gameplay-wise, CS is honestly just the best

[finite dragon]

CoP is my favourite out of the 3 only because its the first one I ever played

[hazy helm]

Yea

[sand oar]

i like the lore in CS

[grizzled peak]

look-wise

[tired anvil]

So nostalgia bias

[finite dragon]

Yes

[pseudo rivet]

We call that aesthetics in the hood

[grizzled peak]

unbased

[pseudo rivet]

[deft rose]

It had tactics but was still fast paced and I don't see a problem with that.

[sand oar]

i like SoC but CS feels better in the features

i cant comment on CoP yet

[hazy helm]

They took a nose dive in lore and story,gameplay feel I mean dumbed down stash,upgrade systems and atmosphere maps were mhe

[pseudo rivet]

Actually, I liked the upgrade system of CoP the best

[finite dragon]

Wait, I have a question for you guys. How did you first find out about this series?

[pseudo rivet]

Some interesting lore in there

[grizzled peak]

Actually, I liked the upgrade system of CoP the best
when you can choose from 2

[deft rose]

Clear Sky had issues with execution of its concepts. For one, faction wars never really worked.

[pseudo rivet]

Faction Wars was based

[hazy helm]

The mechanical changes upgrades made were good but the stash system...

[sand oar]

yt memes

[frail spire]

How is having choice in your upgrades a dumb down

[grizzled peak]

stash system is improved

[sand oar]

people talking about it

[pseudo rivet]

The constant struggle between not only your enemies, but also your weapon's condition, ammunition, economy and emissions was pretty good

[sand oar]

i only recently decided to try it

[grizzled peak]

you won't waste your time searching for an empty bag

[hazy helm]

All upgrades are choices what do you mean?

[deft rose]

Review in the kids section of a newspaper.

[sand oar]

true

[chilly burrow]

Am I the only one who doesn’t like anomaly

[pseudo rivet]

No

[frail spire]

No

[solid prism]

No

[hazy helm]

It trivialises more the story and feel to a more straight line

[pseudo rivet]

There are plenty here who don't like it

[finite dragon]

In a kids section

[grizzled peak]

???

[wary cove]

Friend showed me some "zombies eating alive a soldier" video and we later found out it was SoC promotional

[grizzled peak]

it gives you more freedom to explore

[hazy helm]

SoC and CS had plenty choice in endings,CoP is more Linear

[grizzled peak]

uuuuuuuuh

[pseudo rivet]

Well, CS only has one ending

The based one

[grizzled peak]

how stash system is related to endings again?

[hazy helm]

Factions tho

[pseudo rivet]

Factions tho

[tired anvil]

The Stash in the hotel of Pripyat

[deft rose]

Yeah, it was a weekly feature of the newspaper that carried game reviews.

[pseudo rivet]

Only one faction that matters, however

[tired anvil]

Relates a lot

[pseudo rivet]

Freedom Gang

[hazy helm]

To feel of having a programmed adventure

[grizzled peak]

uuuh

[sand oar]

respect

[grizzled peak]

ok, so, imagine that you are in a random place

you see a random bag, you want to loot it

you found it by yourself

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds like a Battle Royale, tbh

[grizzled peak]

you deserve the loot inside

[hazy helm]

Stashes are random in SoC,I always know where they are in CoP

[pseudo rivet]

Oof, rule 3 moment

[grizzled peak]

oh, damn

sore :(

[sand oar]

imagine

[frail spire]

I also know where stashes are in all games because I autistically played them tho

[pseudo rivet]

[grizzled peak]

????????????????

[frail spire]

So using random stashes points is moot

[grizzled peak]

no???????

they have predetermined stash points

[pseudo rivet]

You get them randomly

[grizzled peak]

yes

[pseudo rivet]

But you can always go to an area in CoP, grab the stuff and you're set

[wary cove]

are they?

[grizzled peak]

however i want the loot i found

[pseudo rivet]

Really early in the game

[sand oar]

yes

[grizzled peak]

i really want to get it

[hazy helm]

Exactly my point,feels more programmed

[grizzled peak]

but stash is empty

[pseudo rivet]

Which makes the start of the game so much easier

[sand oar]

i like the grind feel

[pseudo rivet]

So, I prefer SoC and CS' system

[hazy helm]

Yes

[grizzled peak]

so SC feels more programmed

[hazy helm]

No CoP does

[grizzled peak]

uh

both have predetermined stash points

[frail spire]

What you're talking about is the hobo phase, you enjoy the hobo phase and you can't restrain yourself from looting yet-to-be-marked stashes

[hazy helm]

Having a container on the ground doesn't assure there is smth there

[grizzled peak]

but one has loot from the start

[pseudo rivet]

But you get the coordinates randomly in SoC and CS

[grizzled peak]

oh, but it does

[pseudo rivet]

So, it prevents you from getting cool stuff early in the game

Which is good

[hazy helm]

SoC uses a random system which makes it more random and unique

[grizzled peak]

yes

[hazy helm]

Dopamine moment

[grizzled peak]

however it kinda removes exploration

[hazy helm]

Not really

[pseudo rivet]

Not really, tbh

[wary cove]

Always assumed they were predetermined in the all.spawn and the random part came from whose body you got the stash coordinates from wow

[pseudo rivet]

Because you don't know where those stashes are in the first place

[grizzled peak]

why bother searching for stuff, when container will be empty

[pseudo rivet]

You'll stumble upon them

[chilly burrow]

That’s what I’m saying about fast travel, I hope it’s only from the station and from NPC’s like in the previous games

[hazy helm]

You can still find good stuff and coordinates are given to you often enough to encourage it

[pseudo rivet]

I'm hoping for CS fast travel

[frail spire]

Dunno, I think having random stashes sucks ass since you could get a mark for a map you are too far away from or not able to come back to

[grizzled peak]

yeah

that too

[hazy helm]

And once you are on the zone you'll pick it up,not every needs to be picked up

[sand oar]

makes it fun to explore the map

[pseudo rivet]

Then CoP suits you, seen how small the map is

[hazy helm]

I don't see the point there

[pseudo rivet]

[chilly burrow]

You guys think the physical Ultimate edition is worth it

[pseudo rivet]

No comment

[hazy helm]

Heck no

[sand oar]

._.

[simple tusk]

we'll know when it releases

[frail spire]

I believe only the regular not preorder edition is worth it

Stop coomsooming

[grizzled peak]

so true

[pseudo rivet]

Talk with wallet, not with hype

Not that that'll stop anything

[sand oar]

i dont think preordering is worth it either

[hazy helm]

I will preorder anyway honestly

[solid prism]

Same here

[chilly burrow]

I only want what’s in the collectors but, I want what is in the ultimate digital

[finite dragon]

Cool, didn't have that in newspapers when I was a kid

It was just local movioe reviewers if anything

[cold roost]

do we all know what we would do if we know how to make a game on x-ray engine?

i would do a stalker game in ww2

dont steal ma idea

[pseudo rivet]

[cold roost]

im a dev

[sand oar]

._.

[hazy helm]

No comment

Good god

[cold roost]

what is these sirs

[pseudo rivet]

Purple Dragon Knight gang

[grizzled peak]

sir

[pseudo rivet]

[sand oar]

if you were a real dev i dont think youd let all your ideas out like that

[frail spire]

I would do a stalker game but it's present germany and you play as a regular german who accidentally walks into the kebab zone

[cold roost]

hehe

im just workin an trying on unity

i wrote a long story about it

[finite dragon]

So they walked to Downtown Munich?

[pseudo rivet]

C&C Tiberium universe FPS game

[sand oar]

stalker in ww2 sounds cringey

[hazy helm]

Based

[cold roost]

what is C&C

[hazy helm]

Wack

[cold roost]

?

[pseudo rivet]

Command & Conquer

[frail spire]

Coom and Crunch

[sand oar]

wow

[pseudo rivet]

That as well, yes

[cold roost]

oh ok

[grizzled peak]

should i replay CS, i feel like i haven't played it in years

[sand oar]

yes

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, CS is great

[grizzled peak]

mk

[finite dragon]

@grizzled peak Replay them all

[sand oar]

im not done with it and i love CS already

[grizzled peak]

i replayed SC like, a month ago

and CP about 3 months ago

[finite dragon]

Worst intro of all the stalker games, but most memorable

[crude pollen]

Hello Stalkers

[pseudo rivet]

Heya

[grizzled peak]

henlo

[south narwhal]

u mean CoP or illegal activity

[finite dragon]

[pseudo rivet]

Probably Cyberpunk

Or CoP, yeah

Seen how he doesn't type the lower-case letters

[crude pollen]

How are you guys?

[pseudo rivet]

Doing alright

You?

[crude pollen]

Almost good

[finite dragon]

Doing good, just eating my lasagna

[chilly burrow]

Chernobyl happened in 86 tho

[sand oar]

._.

[cold roost]

bro, i wrote it, amreica nuke them after a virus

[crude pollen]

Nod good and not bad

[grizzled peak]

no, checkpoints

[chilly burrow]

I have autism

[cold roost]

no problem

im monolith and love rocks

[chilly burrow]

Ah Like a continuation of the Cold War?

[south narwhal]

so who else seeks eastern block aesthetics in Stalker too

[grizzled peak]

ok, now i need to find the disc

[cold roost]

yes actually, but nuke is only radiation and anomalies... the virus is everything

its in collapse area

[finite dragon]

I am so conflicted, I have a strong noi preorder stance that was only broken by one game in the last 10 years and this game is gonna do it again

[chilly burrow]

Ah

[frail spire]

I only pursue the pile of dead monolithians aesthetic

[chilly burrow]

Do it

[grizzled peak]

tbf i mainly play stalker for exploration

[cold roost]

does it sounds good?

[hazy helm]

Tbh no

[cold roost]

me too lol

[grizzled peak]

stuff like abandoned power plants and such is what i really like

irl and in games

[cold roost]

aight ill see you after 2 years hehe

[frail spire]

Also underground dead labs with bodies everywhere

[sand oar]

^

[sand oar]

you say that and i think of that 1 korn song DEAD BODIES EVERYWHERE

[grizzled peak]

sadly i can't find those irl

[chilly burrow]

Sidorovitch chicken eating sim

[grizzled peak]

🥴

[sand oar]

YES

[tired anvil]

You sure?

[grizzled peak]

yeah

[chilly burrow]

While we’re at it can we get the recipe

[grizzled peak]

well, i don't think there are any near

[pseudo rivet]

You probably didn't search hard enough

[chilly burrow]

I want to make a stalker cookbook now

How to sausage

[cold roost]

hey rick

[chilly burrow]

Yeah

[cold roost]

?

[grizzled peak]

i live in a big city, and i don't think that there are any labs around here

[cold roost]

[chilly burrow]

Where will it take place

[tired anvil]

There's more in big cities

[frail spire]

"Homemade sausage"
1.find something alive
2.make it unalive
3.turn into sosig

[finite dragon]

Bloodsucker Black Pudding
Flesh Steak and Amnolus Potatos

[chilly burrow]

Yes

[frail spire]

4.enjoy

[barren lion]

I always wait for a game to come out and see how it is before I buy it, idc how hyped I am

[grizzled peak]

everything genius is simple

[chilly burrow]

GSC can have my money any day

[cold roost]

1942-1946 between kiev and moscow but not so big,

[barren lion]

They can have my money, if the game is good

[finite dragon]

The Battle of Stalingrad rips open a hole in the novashpere

[cold roost]

dont worry to say bad, if you say the bad things about it i can make better

😉

[grizzled peak]

k, i found the disc

[cold roost]

we will be a nazi that sent in a operation on a soviet experiment are, we dont fight for hitler but for our country

[stark steppe]

Moscow probably has underground labs

[cold roost]

t-and that lab where virus has broke

[chilly burrow]

I’d ditch the virus part and say that a prototype nuclear device hit Moscow (Cold War continuation) causing a second zone to be created where some stalkers are migrating to in a attempt to make money with less competition and more loot

[finite dragon]

Metro 2

[stark steppe]

K e k

[sand oar]

ofc you're gonna make the protagonist a nazi

[grizzled peak]

i tried to search and found stuff about D6

mmmyes, metro

[frail spire]

Metro but horde mode

[cold roost]

well actually its a good idea but i dont want to copy stalker too much

[stark steppe]

D6 is a miltary bunker hoarding military equipment and t o n k s

[chilly burrow]

So a stalker like game?

[cold roost]

also can make it all countries vs nazis after nazis winning ww2

[cold roost]

yes

[chilly burrow]

Mot a alternate stalker universe

[cold roost]

yeah lol

[stark steppe]

When you realise stalker devs worked on metro

[frail spire]

Too bad anything past LL sucks

[barren lion]

You mean the one game after LL

Lmao

[cold roost]

EXODUS

[hazy helm]

Exodus was disappointing

[frail spire]

Actually LL kinda sucked too but it wasn't too bad neither

[barren lion]

Exodus was a bit disappointing I can see that but I definitely don't don't it sucks

Think*

[finite dragon]

The scripted sequences where very annoying

[cold roost]

i actually liked LL

[finite dragon]

Move five feet
Scripted animation
Move five feet
Scripted animation
Move five feet
Scripted animation

[grizzled peak]

too bad plot in all games sucks

[cold roost]

thats why we like stalker, nothing scripted, zone lives its own life

[frail spire]

First metro was good, the true ending was dope

The one they used to keep the games going sucked ass

[cold roost]

cannon ending was kinda sad

[finite dragon]

Its worse in the books

[grizzled peak]

tbf, black aliens are so stupid there

[barren lion]

I wished they stayed closer to the book ending for 2033

[cold roost]

i didnt red it

[chilly burrow]

Black, what’s the plot rn for your game

[cold roost]

ulfric walter if you mean main character

[grizzled peak]

they attack people, and then they are like "oh no, they kill us, what do we dooooooooooo"

[cold roost]

and his wolf, jæger

[grizzled peak]

so killing them is the right thing to do

[cold roost]

why not to give mutants to hitler and bomb him with mutants hehe

[cold roost]

but they were not trying to kill

[chilly burrow]

Fallout 3 moment

[frail spire]

Having the ending of the first be the nuke option makes having artyom do the same thing on LL which we already did on Metro true ending made me kinda butthurt

[grizzled peak]

then why are they killing???

[cold roost]

trying to communicate, and the one they can communicate is artyom

[grizzled peak]

like, first 10 seconds of the game

[cold roost]

🙂

[grizzled peak]

you see a lot of people lying half dead

good way to communicate

[chilly burrow]

Sico mode activated

[barren lion]

I kinda hate the whole morality thing in metro, I think it is way too hard and unfun to try and get canon ending in LL, I know stalker has diffrent endings too, but like to get canon ending in SoC isn't unfun or super hard

[frail spire]

Because they tried to communicate but only artyom could handle it

[grizzled peak]

sad that their choice of a communicator was so poor 😲

[cold roost]

but as you can see in game they are protecting childs and saving you from that windy thing in tunnels

also the LL

well, if you say them bad, look at humanity. what we dint do?

[frail spire]

The Novuses want to talk but mindwaves screw everyone who wasn't artyom, of course while doing these they'll defend themselves

[grizzled peak]

fair enough

i didn't know that actually

[deft rose]

Yeah you need a guide to experience all the story beats that give moral points in order to get the good (canon)ending.

[cold roost]

killed animals, too many. nuked our brothers, let them die the worst death. thinked ourselves

[grizzled peak]

but there is another thing about metro that i found weird

[hazy helm]

LL was wack but stayed tru to the feel of the first,Exodus went haywire,story isn't good ,the gameplay is...not in line of expectations maps aren't that good,I liked the last 2 levels honestly but far too short they were,instead rest of the game is...

[grizzled peak]

mutants exist

[barren lion]

I just kinda think it's ridiculous how hard it is to get the good canon ending in LL, atleast in 2033 the canon ending is the easy one to get

[cold roost]

theyr just like humans

[hazy helm]

Disappointing

[frail spire]

Also artyom was supposed to be a guy who didn't instantly went for the "kill on sight" mentality which allowed him to not die instantly

Which makes the nuke ending absolutely nonsensical

[chilly burrow]

I love how the bread in stalker has its own wiki page

[cold roost]

thats my PoV

[grizzled peak]

in stalker for example mutants appeared long after first explosion

[hazy helm]

Bread anomaly tho

[chilly burrow]

Fear

[grizzled peak]

and in metro they appeared like, in 10+ years

or how old is arthyom

[chilly burrow]

How do you feel about a sentient anomaly

[hazy helm]

No

[finite dragon]

Spoilers: ||The Dark Ones where trying to communicate with him the entire book, when he finally understands what the Dark Ones are telling him its to late as he can feel though a psychic connection the complete genocide of a peaceful species that wanted to help him and the people of the metro. The novel ends with him crying and suffocating on top of the radio tower. He descends the stairs happy that he can return to the home he saved but lamenting what he did. || Haven't read it since I first played Metro 2033 as a teen so that just roughly what I remember of it.

[grizzled peak]

amazing

[hazy helm]

Wth

[chilly burrow]

I hope there’s a mission that has to do with the elephants foot

[cold roost]

sad

[grizzled peak]

why CS wants me to update directX lol

[barren lion]

Ye the ending of the book is alot better than 2033, that small detail and realization is what makes it

[grizzled peak]

i have the latest one

[cold roost]

i have 11

but use 8

[hazy helm]

Disregard that,new DX has backwards compatibility

[cold roost]

haha

[grizzled peak]

so why do i need new DX

[frail spire]

Basically everything past first metro is not canon

Based

[astral dagger]

Is SoC the sort of game where I can keep playing it as long as I want?

[hazy helm]

[grizzled peak]

uh, no

[hazy helm]

Better optimization

[chilly burrow]

I like how I’m getting a new job exclusively so I can afford a new computer to run the new stalker

[grizzled peak]

it's a story game

[hazy helm]

?

[astral dagger]

Figured

[barren lion]

If you want that you should try anomaly

[cold roost]

is clear sky before SoC or at the same time

[wary cove]

Early-Mid twenties iirc

[chilly burrow]

Economy

[grizzled peak]

but, as i said, i have the latest one.

[frail spire]

Stalker is a story driven fps, theres no new game plus

[finite dragon]

And Artyoms desperation that he hops he can stop the missiles but he knows he can do nothing and just has to watch the ant hill burn. But instead of that somehow being communicated to the player we just got a dream sequence boss fight

[hazy helm]

Anomaly shouslbt be played by total first timers

[grizzled peak]

why i need older direct

[cold roost]

?

[hazy helm]

Anomaly should be after at least SoC

[grizzled peak]

yes

[astral dagger]

I know it's centred around a story but given bandits and such respawn I wasn't sure if the game world could just live on indefinitely

[grizzled peak]

well, you can

[hazy helm]

Well they can

[grizzled peak]

but it will get boring

[wary cove]

Before, as it is a prequel

[hazy helm]

A-Life and all

[barren lion]

Ye I agree I'm just saying, it has that infinite play he wants.
I still recommend playing atleast SoC before any of the mods

[hazy helm]

SoC vannila

[grizzled peak]

play all games before any mods

[chilly burrow]

I want to do a 1 life run of Chernobyl

[hazy helm]

ZRP is you can't run it

[hazy helm]

Best case scenario

[cold roost]

will you guys kill me if i say anomaly is better than CoP

[hazy helm]

Yes

[cold roost]

anomaly is better than CoP

[grizzled peak]

i can't really say anything about anomaly

[cold roost]

cheeki breekis comin

[astral dagger]

What's up with Anomaly?

[grizzled peak]

i played it like, for a day

[hazy helm]

Anomaly is pretty far from stalker,it's not even close,which is ok for a mod pack but many ppl try to say otherwise with no idea what they're talking

[frail spire]

Anomaly is a standalone mod that slaps all maps and campaigns into one thing

[finite dragon]

Anomaly more like kenshi

I think it would be cool if the Anomaly devs remade SoC, CS and CoP with Anomalies engine and gunplay

[cold roost]

well, in stalker theres a story and you just play it. in anomaly you write your own

thats the point for me

[finite dragon]

Anomaly is what recent fallouts wish they would be

[frail spire]

Honestly I wouldn't suggest it for first timers since quests can send you to places you really don't know

[cold roost]

it would be perfect

[tired anvil]

Overhyped standalone “mod”

[grizzled peak]

*recent fallout

[cold roost]

please dont kill me

[grizzled peak]

because 76 doesn't exist

[barren lion]

4 isn't good either

[grizzled peak]

[frail spire]

Oh no gajunas came out

[chilly burrow]

Your name is beautiful

[wary cove]

"better than the original games"

[grizzled peak]

not as bad as 76, but still hot garbage 👏

[barren lion]

I agree

[tired anvil]

Thank you

[hazy helm]

Better mods for that,anomaly is basically watered down Tarkov for CoC misery wanna bes

[grizzled peak]

new vegas best fallout

[frail spire]

Anomaly is ok but it has a LOT of issues

[barren lion]

Ofc

[tired anvil]

Should I need to disappear again?

[cold roost]

i have no 🙂

[willow vortex]

what stalker game should I play first

[hazy helm]

SoC

[grizzled peak]

SC

[cold roost]

SoC

[barren lion]

The first one lol

[hazy helm]

Then go for CS and then CoP

[grizzled peak]

yes

[wary cove]

SoC CS CoP in that order

[frail spire]

Starting with repair mechanics causing bloat, crafting also causing bloat

[grizzled peak]

play them in order

[cold roost]

dont need to play CoP

[finite dragon]

Its a mod of Call of Chernobyl that is pulling bits and pieces from other S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mods like Misery and packaging them as a standalone free game. It has alot of artificial difficulty but can be fun.

[hazy helm]

The trilogy release orser

[cold roost]

play anomaly hehe

[finite dragon]

If you think about it bethesda fallouts have more or less the same freedom of choice than stalker

[hazy helm]

*a mod if a mod of a mod

Basically

[grizzled peak]

ok, so, i installed CS, and it asks for a code, right

[finite dragon]

But one are supposed to be rpgs and stalker is action

[grizzled peak]

but i don't see any code on the disc box

[hazy helm]

Disc code

[finite dragon]

Plus stalker shooting is much better

[cold roost]

hah hah hah download crack

i download 6gb and all games come to me

[grizzled peak]

is it on the cd itself?

[cold roost]

i dont have money

[frail spire]

Stalker has cohesive writing tho, beth fallouts have barely a storyline

[grizzled peak]

NV moment

[barren lion]

Fallout 4 uniroically is kinda just worse stalker, cause it takes out the rpg elements that make new vegas great, and leaves just the exploration and shooting which are worse than stalker

[grizzled peak]

best story game i played in a while

[frail spire]

NV is obsidian tho

[finite dragon]

NV was not made by bethesda

[grizzled peak]

still

[deft rose]

Execution of the story is not up to the mark though.

[grizzled peak]

fallout

[cold roost]

if NV is obsidian CS is nether portal lmao

[astral dagger]

It has settlement components and customization that I enjoy personally

[finite dragon]

Shadow of Chernobyl is considered the best out of the three
Clear Sky is the earliest in the timeline and acts as a prequel for Shadow of Chernobyl
Call of Pripyat takes place days after Shadow of Chernobyl has is the most """polished""" of the games.
Personall y I would play them in chronlogical order

[grizzled peak]

and the fact that obsidians made it makes it even better

[tired anvil]

Playing in release order is best

[astral dagger]

And tbh Fallout 4 definitely has more polished gunplay than Stalker

[tired anvil]

Arguments are not accepted as they are invalid idc

[grizzled peak]

"""polished"""

[astral dagger]

And if it isn't hard enough you can always mod it

[grizzled peak]

based

[languid fern]

I notice in the gameplay trailer that skif doesnt Lean to the sides while shooting like original stalker games, you guys think they removed this function?

[tired anvil]

Not really

[frail spire]

Yeah
SoC
CS
CoP

[tired anvil]

Also censored swearing ain't allowed here either, sorry

[frail spire]

Also no mods for first timers

[finite dragon]

Reeee

~~My first playthough of Clear Sky was with the Complete mod ~~

[grizzled peak]

mods are bad

[cold roost]

a game has lean mechanic, is good, probably no. they shouldnt change it

[finite dragon]

@grizzled peak

[tired anvil]

I hope not, we asked GSC about it earlier today and they said more details on the features later

[grizzled peak]

you can unlock mods only after buying a special mod pass on bethesdastalker.store

[finite dragon]

My guess is that sin ce its being developed for consoles we are probably getting a contextual lean like in Far Cry or Battlefield

I fixed cs with the reclamation project and a gun mod and its enjoyable now

[frail spire]

contextual
Oh no

[finite dragon]

It plays just like soc with those 2 mods

[barren lion]

I mean alot of games have manual lean on console, im still hopefull it'll be there

[finite dragon]

I havent played vanilla enough to experience thw bugs of the faction wars but ive hear they are broken

[grizzled peak]

what the actual hell, i can't find disc code anywhere

i want to play CS so bad

[frail spire]

Yeah bunch of faction war mods are indeed broken

[finite dragon]

Steam, GOG or Disc?

[grizzled peak]

disc

[tired anvil]

You can complete vanilla multiple times with barely any bugs

[finite dragon]

@grizzled peak Code should be on the back of you game manual in the case

[frail spire]

Same, didn't came across many factionwar bugs in vanilla

[chilly burrow]

There’s bugs?

[grizzled peak]

god damn it, now i need to search for a manual

[tired anvil]

Bug fixing mods arguably make it worse sometimes

[grizzled peak]

great

[tired anvil]

A lot of the time

[hushed aurora]

[deft rose]

Not faction wars though. I wanted to make the Loners go after the bandits but it was broken.

[chilly burrow]

You guys think there will be a beta for pre-order people

[frail spire]

No?

[barren lion]

Highly doubt

[tired anvil]

Testing of the game in some form has already happened

[willow vortex]

prob not

[barren lion]

Beta for mainly SP games is super rare

[hybrid raven]

Faction wars in vanilla CS is broken yo, no faction is ever truly defeated and always comes back xD

[finite dragon]

60kg Carry Weight, Grenade Icons, Starting Cash and all guns having 10% accuracy boost for instance

[astral dagger]

Bruh I helped Bes deal with the bandits at the start of the Garbage and a bunch of other bandits rode in like 10 mins later and killed them all

[frail spire]

The game is past beta testing, since it was announced and it has a launch date the devs will try to fix whatever that may come up and theres little chance of big changes

[chilly burrow]

Any idea on where in the map it’s taking place

[finite dragon]

Welcome to the Zone ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tired anvil]

Yea it's pretty much in the polishing phase now it seems

[cold roost]

monolith has been deleted all the codes

its OUR now

[tired anvil]

Well, we don't know clearly, but you could make some assumptions based on what we've seen. Duga, Pripyat, Reactor #5

[chilly burrow]

Yeah that’s a pretty wide span

[frail spire]

The time to ask for tests or changes is a year prior, less than a year chances are low

Considering how big the game is they'll have to use the remaining time bugsquashing and some will still slip by

[finite dragon]

"Some"

You too optimistic comrade

[grizzled peak]

funnily enough turns out i used the wrong cd

[finite dragon]

I was gonna post something in #📜┃s2_suggestions but I guess its to late now

[grizzled peak]

i used regular CS cd, but i had silver edition

[frail spire]

I like to believe we won't run into old bugs like "npcs with story missions get sniped from some random spot causing player to get stuck"

Like in SoC

[chilly burrow]

I hope there’s different reloads for the same gun

[barren lion]

Yeah they are too late in to make big changes, alot of time is spent polishing and bug fixing, then the game still needs to go gold and be printed on disc and shipped out, which will take awhile aswell

[finite dragon]

My favourite bug was the campfires of doom

[willow vortex]

anyone know if they will have some type of fast travel?

[frail spire]

Guides

[finite dragon]

One in a million joke reloads

[chilly burrow]

Hopefully it’s just the NPC fast travel

[chilly burrow]

Ah yes

[grizzled peak]

nah, only yer two legs

[tired anvil]

Well, if you played the games before, guides shouldn't need an introduction I'd say

[finite dragon]

Stalker may be one of the few games where i dont really care about traveling on foot

[hybrid raven]

Swamps

[finite dragon]

Guides only I hope, fast travel with no consequence will turn the threat of the Zone into a joke

[tired anvil]

Yes, though for the moment I was writing irl locations, as we still don't know if the map will be closer to IRL or the trilogy

[frail spire]

fast travel
spawn on top of a mutant/enemy squad because no exclusion spawn distance
die

[tired anvil]

Though 64 square km sounds a bit promising

[grizzled peak]

anomaly moment

[tired anvil]

That's gonna be A-Life 2.0 for ya

[hybrid raven]

So what you are saying is that X-laboratories are IRL stuff? 😄

[grizzled peak]

of course

[frail spire]

I mean I loved those moments

[willow vortex]

what are those metal towers in the gauss gun scene btw

[finite dragon]

Honestly how do you defeat 2 chimeras at once

[barren lion]

I like having to travel, I think its fun to gear up and walk through the zone to your mission, but im alright with fast travel aslong as its really expensive or something so you don't want to use it alot

[chilly burrow]

Duga

[frail spire]

Having to somehow get away while getting gunned was fun

[tired anvil]

I'm saying that I'm sort of measuring the map by IRL locations at the moment. Ones in game and real life

[chilly burrow]

@willow vortex

[willow vortex]

thanks

[grizzled peak]

it's not gauss gun doe, it's more of a rail gun

[finite dragon]

The abandoned labs were the best part of the games

[chilly burrow]

Got you

[grizzled peak]

gauss gun shoots steel balls

[frail spire]

Dugganthesenuts

[grizzled peak]

but that thing shoots lightning

[hybrid raven]

I know man, jk ;p

[chilly burrow]

Nooooooo

[grizzled peak]

or whatever it is

[chilly burrow]

When do you guys think the retail versions will release

[willow vortex]

possibly, check the gpu comparison website for relative comparisons

[finite dragon]

Fast Travel to Rostok
Spawn at the southern checkpoint
Seven Pseudodogs spawn
Autosave has you in a infinite loop of dying before you can even pull out your gun
Have to reload a save from an hour earlier where you just finished a base camp raid that took you thirty minutes to complete

[chilly burrow]

So is life

[frail spire]

Truly the pinnacle of gameplay

[finite dragon]

I hope they we can use artifacts to customize guns for some crazy effects

At least a gravity gun

Ah yes, slap a goldfish onto you Viper 5 for 15 extra kg weight to the gun

[grizzled peak]

no, it will make gun float

[frail spire]

I mean, slap a battery on your knife and now you shock on top of stab

[grizzled peak]

because it's lighter than air

[finite dragon]

Wouldn't that kill oyu to since your creating a circut

[barren lion]

Ye

Kamikaze knife ig

[frail spire]

Wear gloves

[grizzled peak]

and now i have no idea where silver edition cd is

[frail spire]

[finite dragon]

Point taken

[grizzled peak]

great

[astral dagger]

They need to patch 4K so that the drop item function isn't broken

[finite dragon]

I bet more than half if the 150 gb are the 4k textures

I hope they are optional

Ok I have one controversial change that I hope they do.

[willow vortex]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/ to compare gpus

[unkempt loom]

adding women

[willow vortex]

hip

[frail spire]

YAMERO

[finite dragon]

Can we stop dropping out guns with a random roll during combat, I lost my fully upgraded Ansel Protecta to a random loner during a firegiht and had to ruing my rep to get it back

Add romance

[hazy helm]

Cope

[grizzled peak]

wait what

[finite dragon]

I would be fine with it if they made sense

[grizzled peak]

wdym losing guns

[willow vortex]

just dont get shot

[hazy helm]

Bro...

Wait

[finite dragon]

Still better than losing them to burers

[hazy helm]

Wrong reply

[finite dragon]

If you take a critical hit during combat you can drop your gun in some of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games

[grizzled peak]

just use knifes

[deft rose]

That won't tell you anything about VRAM requirements.

[grizzled peak]

oh, so it's stupid, gotcha

[frail spire]

some npc makes me drop my 100% gun
he picks it up and then dies
pick up gun and now it's 10% despite not being fired once
Fug

[grizzled peak]

pain

[finite dragon]

[willow vortex]

What are you trying to compare?

[barren lion]

I hope my pc can run stalker 2 at Max with rtx, really hoping for dlss

[deft rose]

That's pretty rare though, and I've only ever seen it happen to enemies.

[finite dragon]

Accidently step in a chemical anom and your brand new unique that you just fully upgraded gets brought down to 0%

[elfin flower]

So, how is going to be MP? Coop? PVP? Open map? Story based coop?

[finite dragon]

We don't know I ma hoping for some cool modes

[hybrid raven]

Guys help me. Every time I see a normie who never seen Stalker get hyped up about Stalker 2 about stuff he knows nothing about - it gets me mad as hell, like dude this stuff been around for 10+ years and has status of cult classic, wake up.

[finite dragon]

Like a mutant hunt in the Red Forrest

[hazy helm]

#📗┃s2-faq

[grizzled peak]

just don't walk with guns into chem anomalies

[hazy helm]

Good lord

[frail spire]

I usually dropped guns when vastly outnumbered and just picked up guns dropped from npcs and hope they don't jam or have ammo in them

[wary cove]

You didn't hit G key by accident?

[barren lion]

More people being interested in the series is a good thing though? Why get mad. The games deserve more new fans

[deft rose]

Userbenchmark won't be able to help you decide whether you need 8 GB or 4 GB of VRAM.

[finite dragon]

The Giga Chad Scavenger tactic

[elfin flower]

I've read it all yesterday, but it doesnt explain how is going to be MP, did you read it?

[hybrid raven]

Search up on youtube "Russia and USA react to STALKER 2 trailer"

[willow vortex]

The website helps you see the differences between gpus so you can estimate performance(since there are no stalker2 benchmarks). The estimate of how much better a 8gb can give some idea of if stalker 2 is playable.

[barren lion]

Yeah I get it, most Americans don't know stalker, but that's besides my point, you should be happy more people who don't know about stalker are interested in the new game.

[frail spire]

I don't mind new fans but people who just got into this come with their trash opinions like "add dancing" or "add battle royale"

[hybrid raven]

When some american dude said "its Metro clone, I got so mad dude"

[finite dragon]

Agreed, more the merrier

[tired anvil]

The ones who start with Anomaly and call it one of the games scare me

[barren lion]

People calling it a metro clone is annoying i agree, but most Americans have no idea about stalker

[frail spire]

Dude those are the worst

[barren lion]

Where as metro is pretty known

[hybrid raven]

Yeah, those idiots are not welcomed

[barren lion]

Well they are just uneducated about it

Perhaps not idiots

[finite dragon]

"S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 looks like a Tarkov clone" - Some nerd in a Twitch chat

[deft rose]

STALKER was before the streaming culture took off, so most people of this era, Americans in particular, have no idea about these games.

[hybrid raven]

I litirally feel like a parent watching helplessly as my teenage kid makes bad "friends"

[frail spire]

Lmao

[barren lion]

I'm American, I never knew about stalker until I played metro and loved it, then learned about stalker.

[elfin flower]

This is dumb af, since it's exactly the opposite way

[finite dragon]

[hazy helm]

We don't know

[frail spire]

I can't wait for the equivalents of "is this a jojo reference"

[finite dragon]

I remember watching a clip of the Escapist talking about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 saying "...I don't know anything about this series but it doesn't look promising..." but that makes sense its a hard game and game journalists don't like things that won't pander to their hipster needs.

[hazy helm]

Multiplayer is a big fat

[hybrid raven]

Well bro, where Im from (russia) people were praying for release of stalker 2 for 10+ years, went through tons of delays, tons of culture, books, strikeball games, festivals, etc. Not to mention tons of clone games Stalker hype has spawned.

[pseudo yoke]

Just don't get hit

[barren lion]

Yeah, I understand stalker is a much bigger thing there, which i think is great, I wish more people from my country liked stalker

[elfin flower]

Hope it got some kind of Scum style... Also hope we have some sorta ACE medical style

[finite dragon]

Where are you from

[barren lion]

US

[deft rose]

You can make the game playable on 4 GB RX 580 if you drop textures from ultra to medium for example. Userbenchmark doesn't tell you about this. It spits out a number based on some old GPU tests.

[hazy helm]

No comment

[frail spire]

I hope they fixed fhe grenades hitboxes, got tired of suiciding because the grenade stopped midair since a rock was close by

[finite dragon]

S.C.U.M.'s survival mechanics are really over kill. Its so many bars that do almost nothing

[pseudo yoke]

The only survival mechanics should be eating food occasionally

[frail spire]

Survival mechanics are a big meme unless actual reason goes into them

[barren lion]

Yeah I was interested in scum because me and my friends enjoy dayz, but I watched some and saw all of the stuff and it seems like so much

Like I don't want to balance my colon in a game

[frail spire]

Food, water and sleep, thats it, I don't want animations of my character taking a dump

[finite dragon]

Fatigue mechanic, Valhiem food system and Sickness is pretty much all I would be fine with

[frail spire]

Unless I can use the dumps as weapons

[barren lion]

Yeah ive never played a game and thought "wow you know what would really make this great and immersive? If I had to poop"

[finite dragon]

I can't wait for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Turd only speedrun on Twitch

[glacial quartz]

I feel sad I can't ask for new stalker 2 trailer when anymore

[willow vortex]

actually nvmd about the benchmark site, didn't expect them to have only 1 varient of the rx580. I guess just google and compare. Also where did u get the info?

[still meadow]

🤣

[frail spire]

You can still say "stalker 2 when"

[hybrid raven]

In russian community, people are giving their respects and minutes of silence for those, who waited for Stalker 2, but died without getting to this point.

[finite dragon]

^^^^^^

[frail spire]

Cuz I'm guessing 2 delays before release

[hybrid raven]

Because these people were real

[finite dragon]

[deft rose]

Which info?

[glacial quartz]

If they delay stalker 2 after we wait an additional year, I'll just find myself another game to play

[willow vortex]

about making the game playable by dropping textures. It could still be way to intensive.

[barren lion]

Waiting for stalker 2 seems like the Russian equivalent of us here waiting for a tool album lmao

[deep summit]

i hope it will be delayed so that the devs have more time to make it better

[hybrid raven]

Do you know how many times original stalker got delayed? xd

[elfin flower]

It's going to change on .6

[hybrid raven]

I'd say its more like Half life 3 just came to us

[deft rose]

I'm just giving you a hypothetical example.

[frail spire]

inb4 they delay it to add lootboxes and main story cash shop a la deus ex

[glacial quartz]

They will have plenty of time to make it better because it's not 2007
They can push live hotfixes and launch new content every month

[viscid quail]

so

would pre-ordering be worth? simply for the collectors edition? Or do we wait

[frail spire]

If you want another canvas bag go for it

[finite dragon]

Then some modders will dig the files from the 2011 version and made a mod from them

[glacial quartz]

Ofcourse pre order is worth dude

[viscid quail]

thankyou

[glacial quartz]

It's GSC and Stalker

[viscid quail]

just hope it dosent turn out to be as others have this year

[glacial quartz]

Your money is safe here

[viscid quail]

but it is microsoft aswell

small part but still

[barren lion]

Well Microsoft have given them alot of money than they would have ever had alone

So I don't really care

[frail spire]

Microshaft 10 partnership

[hybrid raven]

If Stalker will come out the same way Cyberpunk did, I have no doubt that people here will freaking storm GSC. This game cannot fail.

[finite dragon]

chads

[willow vortex]

I mean my idea was to search up rx 580 8gb vs 4gb, compare benchmark results, and make a decision on how different the results are. I would say any differences of 20+ fps could mean insufficient power.

[viscid quail]

True statement, if the game does flop, a small "cult" will be rising

[barren lion]

It would have to be impressively disappointing to match CP though

[frail spire]

Yeah they would have to screw up real hard to be another cybercoom

[viscid quail]

agreed

[glacial quartz]

Wait what, Microsoft gave GSC money?

[frail spire]

Like 76-tier hard

[viscid quail]

Yeah i think so

I'm pretty sure they had to, for the port to xbox consoles

[glacial quartz]

I love Microsoft even more now

[barren lion]

Its a Microsoft game being shown at their events and also console exclusive to Xbox for awhile

[willow vortex]

Im pretty sure gsc is quite scared of a cyberpunk situation

[barren lion]

So they obviously are funding it somehow

[viscid quail]

agreed

[finite dragon]

More than half of cyberpunk devs were women, coincidence?

[hybrid raven]

Fandom investment is vastly different, if Cyberpunk was suppose to be promised masterpiece, Stalker 2 is suppose to be a worthy successor of a legend.

[glacial quartz]

LOL

[frail spire]

They better be god damn scared
The only thing companies understands is fear and money

[barren lion]

I was really hyped for CP, cause I love the setting and they promised tons of rpg depth and choices, good thing I don't preorder

Or I would have been really mad

[finite dragon]

Way to ruin their reputation after the witcher 3

[willow vortex]

think they can do a no mans sky redemption arc?

[frail spire]

W3 was an oddball already

[hybrid raven]

Have you watched Razer E3 presentation? Thing was a clown fiesta

[viscid quail]

i just rly dont want them to screw up the game, cause why many ppl like it is because, the zone dosent care abt you, it kills you, it shoves you into the dirt, and if they change that as like you as the special one, it screws the game

[barren lion]

Its definitely not impossible but they gotta work really hard

[frail spire]

W3 and their fart sniffing mechanic to trace stuff

[finite dragon]

They have more money than the devs of no man sky

[hybrid raven]

No, because CD PR has too many influences and corporational strings attached. While No Mans Sky was a very small group of very good and passionate friends.

[viscid quail]

jeeeeeeeeeeezus thats a duckin lot

[glacial quartz]

I am not sceptical nor scared for GSC, I know they love stalker more than their fanbase and thus give us a game higher quality than ourselves

[frail spire]

No mans sky was also a trainwreck of devs lying thourght their teeth

[barren lion]

Yeah but the games problems are also harder to fix, CP is alot bigger game with alot of the problems being the lack of choices and rpg depth which would be super hard to add in, alot harder than what has been added to NMS

[viscid quail]

mhm

[frail spire]

Nowadays it got better but the core gameplay is still boring

[willow vortex]

didnt gsc work without pay for some time

[cold roost]

ahhh! dogs

[willow vortex]

when originally working on stalker 2

[viscid quail]

they did

[hybrid raven]

Watch Internet Historian's video about No Mans Sky, its not as simple as you put it.

[viscid quail]

back in 2010/2008

[cold roost]

IM DEAD

[viscid quail]

agreed

[cold roost]

hehe

[frail spire]

I saw it, and I commend hello games, but it was something they caused themselves

[finite dragon]

[hybrid raven]

Cause and effect of lack of such experience. There is no true triumph if there is no failure first.

[barren lion]

It is impressive how far NMS has came, but I still find the game really boring, I just can't get past the planets all being random generated, they don't feel fun to see, id prefer less handmade worlds with actual cool stuff

[willow vortex]

to be fair murrey was doing most of the pr and he was very socially awkward

[frail spire]

Dude they used pre-rendered gameplay and said "it was totally not pre-rendered" on top of the whole multiplayer fiasco

[glacial quartz]

You know that stalker 2 will literally become our new home, right?

[willow vortex]

hopefully

[viscid quail]

yes hopefully

[hybrid raven]

Sony forced them to have something presentable ready, what do you think they should have done?

[glacial quartz]

So whether we like it or not, we're going to buy the game and we're going to play it

[hybrid raven]

Big buisness is nothing but lies bro

[frail spire]

Not getting partnered with Sony in the first place and make their game in peace instead of making them dig their own grave

[viscid quail]

me having only played part of one game in the series( yes i know this is a sin but i can live with it) i still have high hopes for this game, i love the metro series and this whole concept, and already planning a new build lmao, and funds for the collectors edition.

[willow vortex]

i still wouldn't discount the possibility of a cyberpunk situation but i am mostly optimistic

[barren lion]

Nah, if it sucks I feel like alot of people will revert back to older games again

[frail spire]

Working with big publishers is like a devils contract

[hybrid raven]

So bro, you want to say that you never made any severe mistakes in your life? More so, recovered from them, to come out with a WIN?

[glacial quartz]

Thanks for supporting the game man, stalker is another level compared to metro

[viscid quail]

it is

metro cares abt you, the zone does not

[frail spire]

No matter what they do people will always remember the situation they got themselves into and the things they did, with companies this is doubly worth

If they did it once they can do it and will do it again

[glacial quartz]

Metro is an excellent survival and atmospheric game but, stalker is a home to many people

[hybrid raven]

And what they will remember more than that, is how they worked for a redemption.

[frail spire]

Thats why it's the playerbase job to keep companies in check to an extent

[glacial quartz]

For the past 10 years I've come back home playing stalker in outdated graphics and mods to just feel close to the zone

[barren lion]

I enjoyed the metro games and I've only recently gotten into stalker but it definitely does alot of things better than metro and I really enjoy the openness compared to metros on rails approach

[viscid quail]

Yes agreed

[glacial quartz]

Nobody is going to understand how we feel and how excited we are for stalker 2

[finite dragon]

I can't wait to roam around Rookie Village again in the cordon and chat it up with Fanatic and Wolf again

[frail spire]

Both are on rails but stalker maps are bigger so you feel like it's more open

[hybrid raven]

ikr

[viscid quail]

other then the other stalkers around us

[hybrid raven]

preach

[frail spire]

True, we finally get a game we can hope something from

[hybrid raven]

Yes

[frail spire]

Last game I remember being happy for was Divinity OS 2 and Underrail

[viscid quail]

i was happy abt metro, then modern warfare ( 2019 not older ones), and not many others

[glacial quartz]

From 2011 to 2021 it has been a dead era for games

[hybrid raven]

People here will eat them alive if they will screw this up

[glacial quartz]

Literally dead

[viscid quail]

Mostly yes heiro but some games are pretty good

[frail spire]

Not even joking, the ukranian fans themselves will do it for us

[glacial quartz]

The last good game I remember was halo reach

[finite dragon]

I hope they bring back Firelake for the end songs

[hybrid raven]

You can count on Russian fans just as much if not even more.

[frail spire]

The real thing I'm excited for is how they'll do an agroprom underground dude

[finite dragon]

[viscid quail]

^^

[frail spire]

Graphics are updated, sound is gonna be better

[hybrid raven]

YOOO Revisiting Streloks hideout???

[willow vortex]

i hope its more optimized too

[viscid quail]

yasssss

[frail spire]

I mean if we're still in the zone at some point we will go into the underground

[hybrid raven]

I just want some fat fanservice!

[frail spire]

We may get better designed poltergeists

[hybrid raven]

Yo, I cant wait to se controllers

Or idk how they are called in english xd

[frail spire]

Or we may get those stick mutants

[random vortex]

I thought you were talking about game pads for a sec.

[hybrid raven]

Изломы

[random vortex]

Yeah, they're called controllers in EN.

[hybrid raven]

honestly idk how its all called in english xd

[willow vortex]

wonder what the psudogiant will look like

[finite dragon]

I would like the Controllers to do things like trick the player into not seeing them or other mutants

[viscid quail]

^

[random vortex]

The Pseudogiant is still one of my favorite moments from SoC. 🙂

[hybrid raven]

Im also excited for pseudo-giants

xd

[frail spire]

I remember making suggestions for controllers like playing other mutant sounds or making the player believe they're wounded via mind tricks

[glacial quartz]

I am excited for snorks and if they drop their gas masks

[hybrid raven]

Gunslinger mod actually buffed controllers where they can make you commit suicide

[pseudo yoke]

Gunslinger is bad

[glacial quartz]

That would be sick in s2

[hybrid raven]

Its very good man, wdym?

[frail spire]

No instadeath stuff, that sucks

[random vortex]

Do some Eternal Darkness stuff like make people think their monitor turned off, or their save got corrupt.

[frail spire]

You gotta feel the terror of the head ringing

[willow vortex]

isnt that also true in anomaly?

[lyric forge]

They said variants of mutants in the zone will happen, where’s my legendary rat at

[hybrid raven]

I mean its very cool, forces you to find strategies to kill them, you cant get into their direct view for long.

[frail spire]

In anomaly iirc if you don't have psy resist your health goes down slowly until you die if near them

[finite dragon]

Or make the controllers actucally tkae control of a aspect of the player like making the player walk towards dangeorus anomalies or shooting randomly and you have ot use their control over you agianst them

[glacial quartz]

No insta death? New here stalker?

[lyric forge]

Too OP

[finite dragon]

I guess

[frail spire]

Getting oneshotted is different from instadeath

[hybrid raven]

suicide forcing is honestly a very good idea for controllers

[barren lion]

The controller making you kill yourself isn't an instadeath, you can completely avoid it if you are smart

[glacial quartz]

Dude the times I've been one shot and insta ded you wouldn't begin to notice the damn difference

And yeah

[frail spire]

Maybe the gun gets closer so you have to fire all rounds in the mag before it points at your head

[lyric forge]

Just imagine them reworking the difficulties for the game and on the highest one the Controller will have heavy DT, high DMG, and insta control you.
Mine as well turn it into a cover-shooter based game at that point

[willow vortex]

it usually takes a couple of tries tor a controller to force sucide though

[hybrid raven]

Yeah, it actually takes tons of time for him to kill you, you guys must try out Gunslinger

[glacial quartz]

You can use meds or look away

[torpid adder]

Oasis

[pseudo yoke]

No it isn't, the mutant balance is pants on head stupid on top of the game just being vanilla cop with flashier animations

[frail spire]

Controllers could also just take control of other npcs and make them fight eachother

[finite dragon]

Probably turned into a base for nerds ot study by this point in the story