⭐┃nospoilers_general

[pseudo yoke]

oh no we cant, oh well

[shadow drift]

yeah

[pseudo yoke]

WHAT HOW DARE U YOU PROMISEEDDDDD!!!!

[shadow drift]

YES

[cyan marsh]

#📜┃s2_suggestions should really be renamed to "Player ideas and what we would like to see"

[pseudo yoke]

These are products designed to sell, no dev owes you anything

and you CERTAINLY do not owe a dev anything

Fanboyism is cringe

unless it pertains to guns

[shadow drift]

it's a fan's problem if they overhype themselves over the devs stating clear facts about develompment

and the communication itself can actually improve the game

[cyan marsh]

yeah but thats not what the fan sees

[pseudo yoke]

Sucks to be them then

[cyan marsh]

fans will always blame the devs

no matter what

and that'll never change

[shadow drift]

so if they dont communicate they will get blamed too

so why not communicate them

[finite dragon]

Why would you want to be a fan?

[pseudo yoke]

Because the end product is good?

[finite dragon]

No

[pseudo yoke]

Only idiots get hyped by things in their imagination

[cyan marsh]

Even call of duty never gets like any news until 3-5 months before release

Stalker 2 has 9

[shadow drift]

like
why are you arguing against communication
it's a strictly positive thing

[pseudo yoke]

Look at 2077

[past shuttle]

A strong example you got there

[finite dragon]

I refuse

[past shuttle]

I agree with @pseudo yoke

[cyan marsh]

Ok

So heres my small take

[pseudo yoke]

The game is serviceable and enjoyable

[cyan marsh]

GSC created an amazing and interesting franchise

[pseudo yoke]

but a lot of people got really mad because it wasnt the greatest game of all time

[cyan marsh]

That franchise still has a huge fanbase

[finite dragon]

That’s true

[cyan marsh]

GSC Knows what they need to have their game live up

[shadow drift]

community backlash over stating that something was cut from the game is very short term

[cyan marsh]

And I personally trust that Stalker 2 will be amazing

[shadow drift]

dude

[cyan marsh]

but thats just an opinion

[pseudo yoke]

I trust Stalker 2 will be acceptable

Anything more will lead to disappointment

[past shuttle]

Lowering expectations should be beneficial

[shadow drift]

im not even arguing about trust in the dev
im arguing that it would be better if they communicated

[finite dragon]

I trust stalker two will be my new favourite farming simulator

[pseudo yoke]

Definitely

It'd also be better if they didnt TEASE A DATE

THEN NOT SHOW ANYTHING

[finite dragon]

I don’t like farming sim 2020 because it causes violence

[cyan marsh]

We will see gameplay anywhere between april-august

[shadow drift]

23/2?

[pseudo yoke]

IM STILL MAD

[cyan marsh]

I guarentee you

[shadow drift]

is that what you're talkin about

?

[pseudo yoke]

Yes

[shadow drift]

yeah that too lmao

like
if they had something planned and cancelled it
it would STILL be better if they came out and said "we cant show you what we had planned cuz it wasnt ready" or whatever

instead of making people sit and wait with nothing

[finite dragon]

Exactly

[past shuttle]

Wasting your time sitting and waiting for nothing is also a bad thing

[shadow drift]

devs teased a date

it's expected for some level of communication

[cyan marsh]

my only expectation for stalker is a 20-30 hour long game (to complete absolutely everything and take your time) that has the heart of the old games with high replayability value and amazing mod support

[shadow drift]

sure whatever
but can they talk pls

[pseudo yoke]

I dont get eastern euro devs

BSG doesnt communicate

GSC doesnt communicate

[cyan marsh]

throwing a letter into a pit, Vriska

[finite dragon]

My only expectations is tractor or farm

[cyan marsh]

GSC will only talk when they're ready

[past shuttle]

Eastern Europe devs? Hm

A resemblance you mean?

[shadow drift]

shame that they're never ever ready then

[cyan marsh]

personally i wouldnt want vehicles but thats just preference

[shadow drift]

and homestly you can talk about any stage of development

"we have tried implementing x but it didnt work out"

is that difficult

[finite dragon]

How are you supposed to farm without tractor?

[cyan marsh]

sickle

and basically how

people did it

before tractors

lol

[finite dragon]

I meant mass industrial apfarming taking up the whole zone

[shadow drift]

and if you say that fans will get upset about X being cut, wont they get upset about it when the game comes out anyway? so why not communicate and say it upfront to not keep people starving? what is the downside?

[finite dragon]

You can’t just kidnap people and force them to work on your radioactive farm

[past shuttle]

@shadow drift Someone claimed that there is another ''eastern Europe developers'' that don't communicate or very often

[cyan marsh]

only reason I dont want vehicles is because it always felt so much more immersive walking around and having to worry about your surroundings, defending yourself gun in hand

[shadow drift]

not aware of any

[cyan marsh]

embracing the beauty of the zone but always thinking there is something off

[shadow drift]

it's always a good thing when the devs communicate
there is no downside in that

[cyan marsh]

Vriska name ONE developer

ONE

[finite dragon]

Yes but if the zone is going to be as big as people think you would need some method of getting around the map quicker

[cyan marsh]

That says "oops we tried to implement this but we couldn't"

[shadow drift]

new blood
you argument is instantly destroyed and invalidated

[past shuttle]

What are guides for?

[finite dragon]

Guides annoy me

[past shuttle]

[finite dragon]

Driveing is way more immersive you don’t just teleport across the map it still takes time

[shadow drift]

new blood is the people who made
Dusk
Amid Evil
Faith
Ultrakill

all of them communicate

and oof them do this

[cyan marsh]

@finite dragon ide prefer for you to have to walk to a location first before being able to use something like a guide to get there

[shadow drift]

and the games are AMAZING

and fans love them

[past shuttle]

Not every game has the best quality

Humans play games, and humans make games

Therefore, they can be buggy or there could be some mistakes in them

[cyan marsh]

how popular are those games

[shadow drift]

very

ultrakill is one of the top rated steam games

lemme see how many reviews dusk has

[cyan marsh]

genuine question because I actually dont know

[past shuttle]

Among us was very popular last year

[shadow drift]

dusk has over 10k steam reviews

[past shuttle]

But Ultrakill?

[shadow drift]

overwhelmingly positive

[past shuttle]

@shadow drift Can I ask a favour?

[cyan marsh]

Stalker SOC has 15k

Add the other games

then the mods

[shadow drift]

aaaand how exactly does this argue against my "communication is good" argument?

[cyan marsh]

I think the fanbase of stalker is way larger

[gusty trench]

[past shuttle]

🤔

[cyan marsh]

Vriska ive always said like everything

if i simplify it

to the very bone

[shadow drift]

lmao alright go for it

[cyan marsh]

"We still have time, alot of fans trust GSC, communication is good but too much can get really negative"

[shadow drift]

bruh

how

[past shuttle]

I see it now

[shadow drift]

ok "too much:" is negative

but why NONE?

[magic fable]

Hey Bro

[cyan marsh]

CAUSE ITS TOO EARLY

[shadow drift]

bruh

[cyan marsh]

We dont even have a solid release day yet

2021

It ends in 311 days

[shadow drift]

they literally said that the game is too far in development to add new features

[past shuttle]

Only the year was mentioned

[shadow drift]

is it not enough to say anything?

ANYTHING?

[cyan marsh]

game is too far in development to add new features

thats literally them saying something

[magic fable]

I hope mods will help with this

[shadow drift]

and yet we dont know anything about any actual features

[cyan marsh]

literally says that the main base of Stalker is literally complete

[shadow drift]

which is what matters

[cyan marsh]

that statement is the best thing you got

and i think it flew over your head

[shadow drift]

tell me this
would it be a bad thing if they said "there will be artifact hunting but changed it"?

[cyan marsh]

WHY do you even need to know every single little detail?

[past shuttle]

Communication is in their preferences

[cyan marsh]

Would you not want to explore the game yourself?

[shadow drift]

im not asking for that bruh

[finite dragon]

If I was a game developer if I got the base if the game done I wouldn’t rework the whole game because of so,e discord suggestion

[magic fable]

I am in The Garbage now, and I don't thing vehicles would fit with all these clutter anyway 😄

[past shuttle]

Not every game developer communicates as often as you imagine @shadow drift

[shadow drift]

but there is practically nothing

[past shuttle]

Then let the time go by

[cyan marsh]

Most Triple A games dont reveal gameplay until only a few short months before release date

[shadow drift]

none of what you're saying makes any sense
you're argoung against a strictly postitve thing with something you sucked out of your finger
it doesnt matter how others do it if it's a bad thing

[past shuttle]

There is always a reason

[finite dragon]

Cod Cold War and guess where that got them and cyberpunk

[shadow drift]

is it that hard to accept that the current level of communication is not a good one

[past shuttle]

It is

Stop asking such questions

[cyan marsh]

https://prnt.sc/1085ir8

[past shuttle]

You keep asking the same type of questions

[magic fable]

If they want to keep quiet, why bug them?

[cyan marsh]

@finite dragon cyberpunk released gameplay in 2018 lol

[shadow drift]

because the guy keeps saying something completely off track lmao

[finite dragon]

Not on console they didn’t release any console gameplay

[shadow drift]

if the person isnt willing to say "they could communicate more" what else am i supposed to tell

[cyan marsh]

they were hiding how bad it was

[finite dragon]

Yes they were

[cyan marsh]

doesn't prove anything about stalker 2 yet though

[past shuttle]

What do you mean?

[cyan marsh]

the biggest point I can make is that there is still time

[shadow drift]

all im trying to get out of this guy is a "yes" about gsc not having enough communication
and he just goes off road completely

so we run around in circles

[past shuttle]

🤔

[magic fable]

It was a wide circle too..

[cyan marsh]

Vriska if we were having this conversation in like August I would be completely on your side

[shadow drift]

a cinematic trailer is not communication btw

[finite dragon]

Lots of time

A good thing...

[magic fable]

*slow nod

[past shuttle]

9 months is an incredibly huge time

[cyan marsh]

Exactly

[finite dragon]

Even for game development

[shadow drift]

and how does that change the fact that it's been several years without any proper info about the game itself

[past shuttle]

Are you sure it is 9 months and not 10 months?

[cyan marsh]

Several years?

Stalker 2 was only revealed to be in development in like 2018

[past shuttle]

Bruh

[magic fable]

I'll just wait until it's ready

[cyan marsh]

it was already initially cancelled pretty mucha DECADE ago

[finite dragon]

The game only started work like 2 years ago

[past shuttle]

I think he got triggered

[cyan marsh]

At the end of the day GSC Game world is a company with human beings

[past shuttle]

He doesn't seem to be here now

[finite dragon]

Probably

I would too

[shadow drift]

im cooking

[finite dragon]

What are you makeing?

[cyan marsh]

not everything can be perfect for fans

[shadow drift]

soup

anyway

[cyan marsh]

Half Life Fans waited 13 years for a new game

[past shuttle]

Have your debate, I'm off

[cyan marsh]

And Half Life Alyx pretty much confirmed in the post credits scene that there will be some sort of Half Life 3

Eventually

[shadow drift]

ok i want a "yes" or a "no" from you
stop going into completely unrelated things

Has gsc been communicating enough for the past years?
Would it be better if they communicated more?

[finite dragon]

And got a vr game

[shadow drift]

dont type out a long answer

[finite dragon]

You don’t want to communicate too much thats where you get broken promises

[shadow drift]

communcation isnt promises

we established that

[magic fable]

Communication might be taken as a promise..

[shadow drift]

bruh i asked him for a yes or a no and he's been typing for a minute yet

[finite dragon]

Fanboys determine it as that and that’s how you get bad reviews and negative publicity

[shadow drift]

that's the fan's problem though
the devs dont owe anything

[cyan marsh]

@shadow drift
About Stalker 2? No. But I dont think we have an exact date for development start but if it was 2018 then I retract my statement because what kind of info are we suppose to get in the early development process other than game reveal

Would it be better if they communicated more? Yes but to not have them get carried away. And saying for the millionth time, They still have time

[shadow drift]

and there you have it
that is all im asking for
it's been a very long time and the current level of communication could be vastly improved

there you have it

[cyan marsh]

I literally guarantee you there will be something between April-August

But stop expecting stuff NOW, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment

[shadow drift]

i'll hold you to these words then

im not expecting it now omg

i've been waiting for something for years

[cyan marsh]

forget 2009-2017

[shadow drift]

they had all this time to say something and they didnt

[cyan marsh]

Look at 2018-Present when we actually have info

[shadow drift]

ok like what
game engine
protag's name

what else

[cyan marsh]

Probable release year

Which gives us a chance to estimate

when we get gameplay

[shadow drift]

that's not gameplay related information...

im not asking for the relase date of gameplay videos

or*

[cyan marsh]

go find a popular game that released gameplay that didint change at launch 7-9 months before release date

[shadow drift]

is it hard to say that those things changed

[finite dragon]

Kind of

[shadow drift]

only obsessive fans get upset about this stuff
if devs say the cut something that was shown before and explain why - i dont see any issues

liek any reasonable person woulkd

[cyan marsh]

Even if you DID get info right now the chances of it changing in a 9 month period is huge

and obsessive fans will always exist

[shadow drift]

so they will get upset regardless when the game comes out

[cyan marsh]

they ruin it for everyone else but we cant do anything about it

[shadow drift]

they do it anyway
they are the ones writing angry reviews about the game being ruined on release but that doenst stop the devs from releasing does it

why cant this be applied to communication

[cyan marsh]

If we dont get gameplay by September 1st at midnight then you will be the right

[shadow drift]

im not asking for straight up gameplay vids though
asking for gameplay VIDEOS right now is unreasonable

but asking for text information is now

not*

[cyan marsh]

Info too

[shadow drift]

no
no it is not

[cyan marsh]

Im telling you it will be between April-August

also by info i was comparing it to the 3rd line not the 2nd

[shadow drift]

what im trying to say is
it would be easy for gsc to communicate more but they choose not to out of fear of angry fans who will be there regardless when the game comes out

[cyan marsh]

thats not what they choose

at least its unreasonable to assume that

right now

Ima say it again, if it was August or September I would be agreeing with you

[shadow drift]

"right now" is literally 70% of waiting time done

IF we exclude 2009-2017

[cyan marsh]

just give them time

thats it

thats IT

[finite dragon]

Please

Don’t rush them

[shadow drift]

they had enough time by now didnt they though
im not even rushing them
im talking about simple communication

[cyan marsh]

Vriska if they dont release gameplay before September 1st ill literally buy you the game

[shadow drift]

you're saying as though im asking for the game itself to come asap

[finite dragon]

Games free with gamepass

[cyan marsh]

only reason why I started arguing is because this conversation started due to you saying that Stalker 2 might not come out

[shadow drift]

it was honeslty a very pessimistic thought and i retract it

i dont retract my complain about not having enough communication however

[cyan marsh]

Vriska we started this an hour ago

just

at least give them time until april

[finite dragon]

Why have I watched this whole conversation

[cyan marsh]

thats all I ask

[shadow drift]

ok, let's side track
what do you personally expect to happen?

[cyan marsh]

April more info

April-August gameplay trailer

September the latest

[shadow drift]

VERY high doubt about that

[cyan marsh]

Release date late October-Feb

[shadow drift]

also doubtful

didnt they give a vague answer about the 2021 release date recently

[cyan marsh]

im not denying the possibility of a delay im saying its unlikely and even if it did happen it wouldnt be that long

so i gave it feb max

[shadow drift]

i've been waiting too long to be optimistic
i'll say it's 2022 minimum

[finite dragon]

Jesus be happy

[cyan marsh]

a game like GTA only showed gameplay 2 months beforehand

so giving it august is very generous

[finite dragon]

You have been waiting so long you don’t want to stop waiting? Is that it

[shadow drift]

but gta stated info long before that

[cyan marsh]

what would be a reason for Stalker 2 to be delayed

[shadow drift]

i CANT stop waiting for my favourite piece of interactive media that kinda changed me as a person in the first place

[cyan marsh]

They already put out trailers

Info

AND

They literally said the game is too far developed to add anything new

[finite dragon]

The in engine trailers looked great I don’t see what your so unhappy about

[shadow drift]

again, what kind of into and how much
game engine
protag's name
maybe possible release date

[cyan marsh]

That legitimately defines to "main game is done, working on side stuff, bugs n other things"

[shadow drift]

i despise the unreal engine

truly

[cyan marsh]

even for games like call of duty

other than shiny big market trailers they dont reveal THAT much about gameplay

like ever

until release

only stuff like gamemodes

[shadow drift]

you can -1 me all you want, liking how the game looks is subjective

[finite dragon]

I will

[shadow drift]

that's not a good thing

[cyan marsh]

Yet they still earn billions from it

[shadow drift]

why are you comparing gsc to studios with bad practices

[finite dragon]

Boy you don’t like surprises

[shadow drift]

gambling earns billions too but it's not a good thing is it

[cyan marsh]

but yet hundreds of thousands do it anyway

[shadow drift]

and it's a bad thing still

[cyan marsh]

no doubt

[finite dragon]

Because it’s fun

[shadow drift]

and?

is it a bad thing in the end?

[finite dragon]

Depends

[cyan marsh]

for the company?

no

for the rich players?

no

[shadow drift]

so is a low level of communication
i dont care how many people do it when it's still a bad thing

[cyan marsh]

Vriska

[shadow drift]

for the majority? yes

[cyan marsh]

DM a GSC dev right now

[finite dragon]

Not really

[shadow drift]

why would i
they'll slap me an nda

[cyan marsh]

so

basically

you're complaining about something

but the only people who have the power to change it

you're scared of telling

their DMs are open

[shadow drift]

they literally said they are on a non-disclosure agreement

[cyan marsh]

means they wont straight up tell you anything

not that they wont read it

[shadow drift]

and that's a bad choice by the person that instated that rule in the first place

which is their boss

they themselves said they WANT to share

but cant

[finite dragon]

It’s to prevent the spread of false information

[cyan marsh]

so the entire videogames industry

ok

literally every single game company has its employees sign NDAs

[shadow drift]

so you're saying that im wrong for complaining about a vast problem in the gaming industry?

[cyan marsh]

if the NDAs didint exist it would be an even bigger problem with game leaks

[shadow drift]

then why not communicate to compensate for the nda

officially

it's the boss's choice to not release any info

[cyan marsh]

why did Valve stop communicating

[shadow drift]

because they are out of touch

and too rich to care

[cyan marsh]

most likely answer yeah

but the other one was to not give promises you cant keep

there were plans for more portal

L4D

Half life

[shadow drift]

it would be way better if they came out and said "we're not making half life 3 for now"

[cyan marsh]

kept getting scrapped

that would be

absolutely

god awful

for the company

[shadow drift]

lmao
would it put the slightest dent in their pocket?

for real now

[finite dragon]

And fans

[cyan marsh]

not the money it would ruin the reputation

because the obsessed fans would go wild

[shadow drift]

why does it matter if money isnt affected

fans are already wild

[cyan marsh]

because you still lose a large following

[shadow drift]

and how does it matter if money sint affected?

[cyan marsh]

Vriska money is a gigantic factor but

its not the only thing

[shadow drift]

the end goal of a company is money

[cyan marsh]

it is

but how do they get the money

[shadow drift]

fans are a WAY of aaining money but they have steam

[cyan marsh]

and what can they do to make more

[shadow drift]

steam is a monopoly

[cyan marsh]

WHY did they make another half life game in VR when they knew it wouldnt sell as well as a PC version

short answer money

[shadow drift]

cuz they want to make hardware

hardware is money but it needs software

also gabe newell wants to be immortal or something

[cyan marsh]

longer answer to revolutionize the VR era

[shadow drift]

to make another monopoly but in the vr market*

[cyan marsh]

valve still poured their heart out for Half Life Alyx

I played it twice

2nd time listened to the developer commentary

you're making it seem like every single company is out there ONLY for the cash and gives absolutely no craps about the players

as I said money is a GIGANTIC factor but its not EVERYTHING

[shadow drift]

ok
how does that change things
let's be real here, gamers have very short term memory
if they said "we're not making half life 3" a decade ago - people would still recieve hl:a as they did now

[native ibex]

Yo

[cyan marsh]

leave while you still can

[native ibex]

Nah

Hippie

[cyan marsh]

@shadow drift ok

so

I dont fucklng know

the answer to everything

at this point i dont know where our conversation is ending up

my absolute last point is just give GSC time

thats it

im out

[shadow drift]

my entire point was about communication

not about time

but whatever

[cyan marsh]

give them time, they will communicate

thats what i meant

[shadow drift]

gave em enough time by now is what im trying to say but wharever im off to eat

[finite dragon]

Alright

Eat that soup

[finite dragon]

anyone feel weird when you are almost near the end of the game?

[untold loom]

why

[finite dragon]

I might as well warn you, i'm having a crappy day, as always. No booze. I expect everyone to do their job right, otherwise heads will roll.

[wintry root]

Time to get drunk,

[gusty trench]

Time to be sober

[tired anvil]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[past shuttle]

[shadow urchin]

2032

[cerulean geyser]

2320*

[lone leaf]

I feel weird all the time

[finite dragon]

i thought I'm about to witness an epic poo(cant swear in this server)

[dawn pivot]

i require more trailers

MOAR

MOAR

[cerulean geyser]

Everything at its time :D

[hushed aurora]

Patience is a virtue

[cerulean geyser]

Indeed

[open lintel]

stash everything, moar indeed

if your not hoarding everything, your not doing it right >:)

[cerulean geyser]

This tbh

I always think "Might come in handy later"

And then I dont even end up using it, heh

[tired anvil]

If you're not lobbing 5 guns and sitting at 59.9kg you're not playing it right

[cerulean geyser]

If you aren't chugging liters of energy drinks to run to the next safespot during an emission, you are doing something wrong ;D

[untold loom]

yeah, that's how you travel in CS

you just gotta have 30 cans of soda on you at all times

[hushed aurora]

Always carry atleast +2k ammo with you

[cerulean geyser]

I dunno, 2k sounds a bit overkill

[tired anvil]

Unless it's pistol ammo

[open lintel]

I always drop everything at my safehouse, and take about 200 rifle rounds, and 50-90 sniper rifle rounds

[cerulean geyser]

I carry 100 rounds per weapon plus 5 grenades of each type

[hushed aurora]

This way you won't worry about of ammunition

[tired anvil]

Pistol run

[open lintel]

5 grenades of each time, now that's overkill xd

[untold loom]

only 200 rifle rounds?

[cerulean geyser]

Needless to say, I never use grenadse

[hushed aurora]

1k 9x18mm gang

[cerulean geyser]

Armor is pretty much useless weight

You do not need armor if you dont get hit

[lethal zinc]

i like that mindset

[untold loom]

you don't get hit if the enemy gets a 9x39 bullet lodged inside his skull before he sees you

[past shuttle]

[onyx hill]

Hi guys, any news on the release?

[gusty trench]

Nope

[vast fox]

Yes, Shadow of Chernobyl released March 20, 2007

[gusty trench]

Yeah. It's very recent.

[native ibex]

Released in 2007

Graphics straight out of 2004

[past shuttle]

🤷🏽‍♂️

[still ridge]

graphics aren’t even bad by 2007 standards

Models are a little lackluster

[hushed aurora]

Was meant to release in 2003-2004 iirc

But development hell happened

[still ridge]

Which is why I wouldn’t compare it to S2 development whatsoever

They worked on X Ray for an insane amount of time, whereas UE4 has been out for years and is easy to work with

[hushed aurora]

I wonder what other Games used Xray

[past shuttle]

Interesting question

[native ibex]

Possibly none

Perhaps the slavic equivalent of cheap wal-mart games

[past shuttle]

[native ibex]

Fishing games on the X-ray engine

[vast fox]

Damn slavic cheap walmart games

Lol

[grand pendant]

survarium forked the engine, metro builds clearly used xray

[still ridge]

Yeah, ripped textures straight from SoC

didn’t the lawsuit get dismissed though

iirc

[grand pendant]

not sure there was ever a lawsuit, i heard gsc allowed them to use it

[hushed aurora]

What about before SoC

[still ridge]

Afaik there was one but it wasn’t pursued

[lapis yew]

Hey guys, about to jump to Pripyat soon in SoC, I'm having trouble of what assault rifle to choose. Because at the moment, I'm low on 9x39mm for my VSS, and I can't decide what assault rifle to carry instead. Preferably, the ones using 5.45, and 5.56

[past shuttle]

Hey, let me decide for you @lapis yew

Keep the Vss

[still ridge]

Nvm, they just accused 4A

There was never a lawsuit

[grand pendant]

nah, xray was made exclusively for OL afaik. They made it in a year

[past shuttle]

VSS is very important

If you can aim very accurately, of course

[still ridge]

and then fiddled with it for 5 @grand pendant

[lapis yew]

I know, but low on ammo for it

[past shuttle]

It becomes very handy

[still ridge]

[past shuttle]

How many ammo left for it?

Exact number please

[lapis yew]

180 left

[hushed aurora]

Hm,

[past shuttle]

Pretty much enough

I'd say 100 is even enough

Is there another weapon that uses 9x39 in your inventory? @lapis yew

[grand pendant]

codename outbreak is having a remaster on xray, by fans ofc, so technically a mod

[hushed aurora]

On Xray

Damn

[lapis yew]

I got Groza

[hushed aurora]

Sounds nice

[past shuttle]

Groza is very powerful

It becomes handy in CNPP

Very useful in hardcore combats

9x39 ammo is the strongest available ammo

[lapis yew]

And yeah, I prefer the VSS or Groza but due to the double damage mod I installed, it pretty much one shots everyone

But the enemy can do the same

[past shuttle]

Double damage mod? Damn

That's a problem, hm

[lapis yew]

Yep

[past shuttle]

What do you use for 5.56?

[lapis yew]

Sniper LR-300

[past shuttle]

You didn't let duty take it, huh?

Lmao

[lapis yew]

Even gave it an M209 GL

Nope

[past shuttle]

I see

[lapis yew]

It was unique and was worth taking it

[past shuttle]

How much money have you got?

Can't you buy more 9x39?

I literally stock up on 9x39 ammos

[lapis yew]

Where to buy 9x39mm? Barkeep doesn't have one. And I'm not really a fan of going back to Yantar, unless that's the only choice.

[past shuttle]

Iirc, there were like a thousand 9x39 ammo I had

Before jumping into Pripyat

Barkeep does not sell them?

Hm

[lapis yew]

I did stock up on 9x39, but I got carried away by using it on side missions since it was fun to use.

[past shuttle]

The trader in duty

must be selling them

They use 9x39

Side with duty = super easy mode unlocked

[lapis yew]

I'll check. If not, I'm inclined to the LR300.

[past shuttle]

Side with freedom = No idea

[lapis yew]

Heh

I prefer being friends to both

[past shuttle]

Make sure you can run though

Don't carry too much stuff

Otherwise it becomes a pain to walk through those areas

I had that experience

[lapis yew]

Well I have 200000+ rubles, any suggested armor? Because its either the military suit, or exo

[past shuttle]

Also, I suggest you to use Skat-9 military ''Bulat'' armor

Exoskeleton sucks

[lapis yew]

Ok

[past shuttle]

I remember buying both of those armors

Imagine me spending 400 k Ru for those two lmao

Earning money is easy

There is also one special exoskeleton in the game

It will be a spoiler if I tell you about it though

[lapis yew]

Heh. So yeah, if I can't get more 9x39mm rounds, then I'll be running off with my sniper LR-300. The double damage mod makes the 5.56 rounds one or three shot enemies. Which is enough btw. Plus, integral suppressor makes it similar to the VSS

[past shuttle]

I see

How heavy are you with all those stuff?

[lapis yew]

44.5

[past shuttle]

That's great

Be careful there

Use VSS first

[lapis yew]

Got me self plenty of medkits because the double damage mod makes it really necessary

[past shuttle]

There will be snipers

Lots of snipers

[lapis yew]

Suggesting I can't snipe with the LR300, but yeah, the VSS was my fave.

Say, how common are 9x39 rounds in Pripyat? Maybe I can turn my enemies into my supply chain for the moment.

[past shuttle]

VSS is the best sniper, change my mind

That sniper becomes a beast in an experienced stalker's hands

[cerulean geyser]

True

[past shuttle]

It's so fun to hunt enemies with it

I enjoyed a lot

One shot one kill literally

[cerulean geyser]

And if someone gets too close, full auto it is

[lapis yew]

Install double damage mod and you literally one shot enemies in exo suits

[past shuttle]

The distance between you and your enemy, calculating the distance, aiming to the enemy's head...

I don't need that

[lapis yew]

What bothers me is the 10 round mag, but eh, it works

[past shuttle]

Thanks however

10 round is surely enough

Imagine if it were 5 round

[lapis yew]

In a different save file, I got myself the sniper VAL from Duty at the cost of making enemies with Freedom.

20 round mags was fun

[past shuttle]

I had a mission of bringing a grenade launcher to duty from the freedom base

Since I sided with duty, freedom became hostile

They were pain to deal with

In ''Radar''

[lapis yew]

Yeah. They were a pain when I made enemies with Freedom. Especially when my stash was inside Freedom base.

[grand pendant]

imagine killing both sides and getting gangbanged in radar

[lapis yew]

XD

[past shuttle]

Hardcore combat intensifies

Should be fun though

[past shuttle]

I will try that, thanks

[lapis yew]

The biggest reason I lost so much 9x39 round was getting out of radar full of Monolith.

[past shuttle]

By doing side missions, I'm sure you can grab lots of 9x39 ammo

[lapis yew]

I had trouble aiming when I immediately take cover and miss some shots due to double damage of me and my enemies.

[past shuttle]

I'm a fan of side missions

Imagine playing CoP without doing any

[lapis yew]

I did, but like I said, I was having too much fun with the Vintorez

[past shuttle]

Hardest mode and boring

Maybe not boring, I'm not sure

I have never tried that

There are things that I haven't done yet

I have never sided with freedom once

Not in the whole series

[lapis yew]

Freedom is fine. They're chill, but rather... too unprofessional at times for my liking

[past shuttle]

Helped them? Yes,
Sided with them? No

[lapis yew]

Still cool to have them around though

But we can agree on one thing is that Bandits are always enemies.

Always

[past shuttle]

Always

Is there even a way to side with bandits in CS?

I'm sure there is in CoP

I also haven't tried that

[lapis yew]

Even if I was given the option, I'd shoot them on sight. I have a habit of visiting garbage and using them as target practice for my VSS

Very fun

[past shuttle]

Lmao

I'd do the same

[lapis yew]

Um... I don't know why, but I just found a Groza, the 5.45x39 variant lying in the trench in the entrance of Rostok...

[finite dragon]

you mean storm?

i use that gun in cop

[past shuttle]

Wait

@lapis yew Are you serious?

[past shuttle]

Are you sure you saw that variant of the weapon there?

[median rock]

There's a guy at the duty base that has it, maybe he left it and died

[crimson minnow]

Does anyone know of any mods which improve the gunplay in Shadow of Chernobyl?

[hushed aurora]

Memories of the Zone i guess

[crimson minnow]

cheers will try it out

[hushed aurora]

👍

[past shuttle]

@hushed aurora What do you think about Radiophobia?

I saw it on moddbs

It looked very decent to me

[sand oar]

I watched that documentary

I liked it

[sand oar]

Yeah same, theres a duty who sometimes dies by the dogs in SoC atleast

[native ibex]

Imagine being eaten by animal slaves

[finite dragon]

Any attempt to penetrate the secured Zone will be punished by any means necessary! Patrols have the right to shoot on sight.

[native ibex]

Patrols have the right to die for their political master's whims

[past shuttle]

Documentary?

@sand oar What documentary?

[tired anvil]

@past shuttle https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810446/

[past shuttle]

I was talking about the mod

Radiophobia 3

Not the documentary

@tired anvil I didn't know there was a documentary named as this

Thanks

[tired anvil]

[finite dragon]

We also have right to bomb to the ground your lair in dead city.

[tired anvil]

You have the right to not canon

[sand oar]

O

[hushed aurora]

No idea, i've heard it's alright but never tried it

[leaden hamlet]

Rebel is the go-to master of all S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mods = Confirmed. 👍

[tired anvil]

[leaden hamlet]

(It's okay Gaj I didn't mean those kinds of mods)

[tired anvil]

I'm aware

[finite dragon]

I kill bandits for breakfast

[tired anvil]

And I still react the same way

[hushed aurora]

No lmao, thats Slyth

[tired anvil]

At least he didn't say SurDno

[finite dragon]

I eat bandits

[hushed aurora]

I dont personally know him , so yeah

[leaden hamlet]

They can't be too healthy mate. Do you at least cook them thoroughly before consumption?

[finite dragon]

I drink their blood like tremor did grouse and danila

[hushed aurora]

I just imagined canibalism in the Zone, frick

[leaden hamlet]

Again please refer to my previous comments regarding their nutritional value and the need for proper preparation. 😁

[leaden hamlet]

I'm surprised this is the first time.

[finite dragon]

I cook them

[hushed aurora]

Sounds like you know quite a bit of this || ||

[leaden hamlet]

Glad to hear. 👍

[leaden hamlet]

I know people is supposed to taste somewhere between pork & mutton.

[hushed aurora]

[finite dragon]

anyway, I come to cement factory, bandit is wounded from being assaulted by zombified stalker, asks for medkit, I shoot him instead.

in dark valley?

i forgot

[frail spire]

Headcanon: Monolithians usually butcher eachother under the guise of recieving their brothers strength indian-style

Well maybe not usually but it's done once in a while

[jagged spindle]

fungus

[magic fable]

There's not a single day in the Zone that I don't die by Springboard

It's so tough to see those things.. 😦

[finite dragon]

Who is making a racket around there? I am on my way! I'M ON MY WAY! I'm gonna rip your heads off!

[frail spire]

Sometimes, I pull so hard, I rip the skin.

[steel lily]

Like pyramid head @frail spire

😂

[native ibex]

Hello there

[finite dragon]

my father who used to serve in millitary he uh eh strapped like 5 rgds and 7 vog 25s togheter and pulled the pin and threw it into the water when it exploded liek 16 dead fish washe dup

[gusty trench]

my father who served in the ukrainian army loaded his RP-74 machine gun, took aim and started to shoot the stalker on Cordon
he reloaded the saves liek 16 times

[pseudo yoke]

My grandfather was in the navy and shot a korean guy in 1954

[native ibex]

My grandpa blow vietnamese man's head off after he jump onto his tank

Took picture

Chad grandpa, no PTSD

[lapis yew]

Well, got my ending. Wishing to rich only to be crushed under a collapsing roof.

Thanks Wish Granter

[native ibex]

That's what you get for wanting to be a blue blood

[lapis yew]

Not my fault I have lots of money despite not having anything left to buy.

Also, my armor was shredded, to the point that I had to constantly take anti-rads and eventually taking constant medkits as I search for the wish granter.

Was fun.

[finite dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aGXNuyUEtk

shoutout to the madlad who made this

[toxic vector]

wish granter is so boring, there should be a wish about waifu

[native ibex]

I wish for cute Russian waifu with choker and bob cut

[wary cove]

Beautiful

[native ibex]

sometime in the recent past
STALKER: I wish for a sequel to The Last of Us
Monolith: ...
Naughty Dog: I have a sudden urge to make an abomination

[gusty trench]

Your mind is in the gutter.

[lapis yew]

XD

[native ibex]

I forgot to add daddy issues

[lapis yew]

You know, someone should add a mod of Wish Granter giving your other wishes that the player can choose.

[native ibex]

None of them are useful, though

[lapis yew]

Yes. But I'd like to see an optional wishes though. Just for the giggles.

[native ibex]

I wish to become based and redpilled

[grand pendant]

granted, become cringe and pisspilled

[native ibex]

And then it fills your video files with ben Shapiro memes

[hushed aurora]

I wish to escape South América

[native ibex]

Honestly, I can't tell if based and redpilled becoming a meme is a legitimate sentiment of the people or some kind of psychological warfare to stop people from becoming too extreme in the future

[lapis yew]

I wonder what happens if you give the Wish Granter a very specific wish.

[lapis yew]

Sent to China instead

[hushed aurora]

Prolly nothing Good, or real to begin with

[hushed aurora]

Damn

[native ibex]

"I wish I could be like Big Boss" -MGS5 medic, probably

[hushed aurora]

:smile_degtyarev:

[native ibex]

You like it, Rebel

M E T A L G E A R

[hushed aurora]

Engranaje de Metal

[native ibex]

This man speaking in tongues

No hablo espanyol

[hushed aurora]

Casi

[native ibex]

Teach me your language

[hushed aurora]

Talvez

[native ibex]

I'm gonna take that as a no

[hushed aurora]

You need the almighty Ñ tho

[hushed aurora]

Rip then

[native ibex]

Ñ?
That's like Nye, right

[hushed aurora]

Eñe

[hushed aurora]

Sorta

But idk why we are discussing this in the Stalker channel

[native ibex]

Too early for the rules to apply

Adter all, the staff are sleeping

[hushed aurora]

They look online for me

Mfw PC discord broke

[native ibex]

PC discord?
The future is mobile, dear child

[hushed aurora]

PC gang

[fallow stirrup]

I downloaded a fix for the dead air debug utility and played around a bit..Wake up next day and Large amounts of D.A. files (and hopefully nothing else?) have vanished, including the Appdata folder which contained saves. Is this a known thing? Or did I fat-finger the delete button after too many beers?

<--sucker?

[past shuttle]

This is awesome

@finite dragon Thanks for sharing this

[finite dragon]

i am shocked this guy wasn't hired by GSC

they did notice him though

[finite dragon]

They already have composers and musicians hired, what's the point of hiring a relatively new musician, whose portfolio doesn't even fit what is needed for S2?

He did a great job, but if they wanted to get hired, they better start pumping out albums like Lustmord

Btw on the topic of Lustmord

Buildosoldati unite

Honestly, if there is one thing that I personally pray GSC doesn't mess up, it's the music.

Take for example Lustmord's latest album - Lublin

That's the absolute bare minimum of what I expect for a stalker game

[tired anvil]

I expect lore

[finite dragon]

Eh stalker got away with huge plot holes

[tired anvil]

Which is why I expect it

[finite dragon]

And I think not giving the full picture kind of works well if the loss of knowledge can be genuinely explained

[tired anvil]

To fill them

Well that and the fact that we don't really know which ending of CoP is canon

[finite dragon]

Probably the good ones..

We have to see

We also don't know which of the SoC endings are right

Because they can be interpreted in many ways

[cyan garden]

absolutely dying while waiting for the hd ps5m/seva reveal

[tired anvil]

I remember Strelok being alive

[finite dragon]

After all, (spoilers) ||The wish granter is a psy installation. If Marked One entered the chamber, he would have definetly been brainwashed again. Sent out as an agent.||

But yeah

With everything else, I genuinely believe GSC will nail it. They know their fanbase. And whether they choose to make a lively or dead Zone, it doesn't matter.

But music is where it's questionable

What we have seen doesn't fit the dark atmosphere

It's more like a AAA shooter title in a technological post-apocalypse

[native ibex]

Last music drop was sick

[lucid elm]

Since we are talking about sound design

I hope there is some bullet impact sounds on flesh

[native ibex]

Does that make a noticable sound

Frog, find out for us

You will be remembered

[finite dragon]

Refer to #💬┃en_offtop))

[lucid elm]

@finite dragon @native ibex like the sounds when you shoot someones body in R6Siege or similar

[finite dragon]

Yeah and it's barely audible

Just like stalker's sounds

Hence my examples of what it could sound like if you made it noticable

[hushed aurora]

I would like if bullet impact wounds would be noticeable in a visual way

[native ibex]

I haven't noticed STALKER's sound problems myself

[hushed aurora]

More than just particles of blood

[native ibex]

The particles of blood are great

Especially the blood textures on the ground when bleeding

[lucid elm]

I havent played in a while. I had no idea Stalker had those sounds

and I agree on the music

they should keep the ambiance

[hushed aurora]

I'd like to see more hmmm, effects on the character's model when you shot it

[mystic anchor]

Just beat call of Pripyat

Probably my favorite in the series

I love all the little things the game has

Plus it’s got a badass soundtrack

[still ridge]

CoP was the best experience for me

Loved every side quest

[hushed aurora]

I loved CoP the first time i played it, but not so much for replaying it

I recently find SoC and CS more enjoyable for a replay

[still ridge]

Agreed

in terms of first play through I probably liked cop the most

[meager plover]

it's because we NEED MooZe

[haughty stratus]

Hi

[grand pendant]

hello

[haughty stratus]

How are you?

[copper sky]

i think no one knows what happened to him since 2017

but yeah, i prefer MooZe's music too

[finite dragon]

Well, GSC has moved a bit away from the dark ambience style of music since Clear Sky

After all, that's why he left the project

Let's admit it, we won't get back the freaky tunes from the SoC era. GSC will just move forwards with whatever they'll come up with.

Probably something like atomic hearts

[untold loom]

muh atmospheric SoC-esque cutscenes

[solid dome]

FIx'd: Omelchuk for instance, can be good replacement

[meager plover]

But I think it'd be nice if an ingame radio is available

That plays Kino and other music

[solid dome]

Hell no way they can license Kino

All everyone needs: indie artists to do the soundtrack if not someone who knows Mooze/Omelchuk stuff enough

Indie artists: dark ambient bandcamp gurus

But since The Translate Guy's right... I doubt we'll have full DA soundtrack in this age of"mainstream-ness

[finite dragon]

i wish they could

[mystic anchor]

I hope cardan and nitro come back in stalker 2

|| and they actually have a working vehicle ||

I do wonder what ||cop endings|| they’ll make canon for 2

[leaden hamlet]

I used to think I really wanted this, then I played OLR and...Well...||Vehicles + Anomalies = Tremendous Annoyance + The Occasional Giggle ||

[leaden hamlet]

I'd say, probably, best-case-scenario for all of them. 👍

[mystic anchor]

Yeah true lol, I’ve seen some gameplay from mods with vehicles and it does not look fun

I was imagining something like the railcar level for metro last light

[hushed aurora]

Only mod i've played with vehicles is NS

They handle decently and work fine

And anomalies don't affect them and seem indestructible

Dunno about other mods, but in NS they are pretty nice

[lucid elm]

Bruh I thought that said I just beat to call of pripyat

[mystic anchor]

Those burers tho

[frail spire]

Hope you managed to recruit all squad members

[lapis yew]

Hey guys, any of you knows any weapon increase mods for vanilla CoP? Preferably works on both NPC's and Mutants alike, even on the player himself as well.

[hushed aurora]

Iirc there is

Should be easy to find tbh

[lapis yew]

I found some, not sure if it works on mutants as well

I prefer gunning both NPC's and mutants without wasting too much munitions.

[hushed aurora]

I mean

It increases weapon damage

Why wouldn't it affect mutants lol

[lapis yew]

Well, some description says that it increases damage against NPC's

Never mentioned mutants

[hushed aurora]

Mutants sorta count as NPC i think

[lapis yew]

Hm...

[hushed aurora]

And it wouldn't make sense to make it affect just humans

[lapis yew]

Yeah...

Maybe I should just try.

[hushed aurora]

Just try, if you have to overwrite any files then make a backup first but i doubt you'd have to overwrite anything

Don't recall using damage mods on vanilla games tho so idk

[lapis yew]

Yeah. Prefer with damage mods because it makes gunfights realistic at least.

[hushed aurora]

I prefer vanilla, dunno why, but hope you're able to enjoy it however you like

[lapis yew]

Heh. Prefer mostly vanilla myself. But we can all admit that it has some painful flaws.

[hazy helm]

yo guys wasup

[lapis yew]

Heyo

[hazy helm]

how are ye strik

[lapis yew]

Just planning to start and play CoP

Was looking for a good damage mod

[hazy helm]

I dont think you need them man

[lapis yew]

Because I don't like using hundreds of bullets to kill enemies.

[hazy helm]

mhe,you do you,I am sure if you search damage increase COP youll find a dozen

@hushed aurora you finished all of the anomaly story sstuff right?

[lapis yew]

Out of curiosity, does Arsenal Overhaul have increased damage?

[hazy helm]

dunno actual-ly

it might

[hushed aurora]

I have never played Anomaly lmao

[hazy helm]

goddamit man,I aint even trying to get into anomalys server for this one,those idiots might ban me in sight

[hushed aurora]

Why lol

[hazy helm]

the mod man even if they change nothing about missions they are gonna tell me to f off

[hushed aurora]

[finite dragon]

Attention! You are approaching the secured perimeter of a ecological disaster's Zone! Illicit crossing of the perimeter is a criminal act!

[tired anvil]

Can't tell if you're just imagining something bad or if you actually have beef with the guys there

[hazy helm]

from waht pp, tell me man

I live in fear

[tired anvil]

[glossy plank]

hold on i just got here

i didnt know stalker 2 was in the works/

?

[hushed aurora]

It's been for atleast 3 years now

[glossy plank]

ohh i thought it was cancelled for good

nice to see

[hazy helm]

[glossy plank]

ahaha why is swearing not allowed

[hazy helm]

bc the server is discord partnered

[glossy plank]

ohh

alright

[wary cove]

also journalists

[tired anvil]

That was the case 9-10 years ago, yea

[hushed aurora]

[frail spire]

Because gsc believe they will avoid flak by no swearing while they don't understand they're gonna get super roasted over no women by sjw

[hazy helm]

dont break the camels back yet

[frail spire]

I do believe it's smart to keep under radar

But they should be transparent about it

Instead of just giving us the "correct" answer

[pseudo yoke]

I find it funny that a lot of people want a female playable character

But they don't realize stalker 2 is a story driven game

[frail spire]

I wouldn't mind female characters if gsc could get away with writing REASONABLE female characters

But you just KNOW that things will go down south the second they would start writting them, because it's like a monkeys pawn thing

That whenever female characters are introduced everything goes wrong

[gusty trench]

I find it funny that a lot of people want a female ...
Same, bro, why do you need a female if you can find a free 2d girl on the internet. :sunglasses:

[frail spire]

Like, imagine gsc goes "yeah female stalkers but not playable" and it's literally all Hips with simp questlines in which you can't even ask for ass because she gets so triggered she butts you with her makarov

[pseudo yoke]

Yes

[lapis yew]

I remember reading something in SoC in the encyclopedia on the local folklore about loneliness.

Basically, a loner hallucinated about a beautiful ecologist, and simping for her by helping her get some high-quality artifacts. It ended with the loner not being able to find the said woman and the place where she settles in.

[gusty trench]

There's also an artefact that attracts women but for some reason it attracts only stalkers in exoskeletons.

[frail spire]

tfw we will avoid eroge stalker-like videogames about mutants using artifacts as bait for rape cg scenes

[pseudo yoke]

A Dutyer is depressed

[lone leaf]

That is the natural and correct way of things.

[pseudo yoke]

Oh I didn't finish it

In soc

Because he saw a beautiful ecologist and then stopped seeing her

[glossy plank]

yeah i just talked to that dutyer

he said the girl was distancing herself from the guy

the more he escorted her to find artifacts

[pseudo yoke]

Rip

Sux 2 suck

[mystic anchor]

Okay so do any of you remember the ‘MLG Meme’ where it was a first person animation of someone smoking a joint?

After playing anomaly with the animations add on the cigarette anim looked similar so I it made me think that the meme was from a stalker mod

https://youtu.be/RXwjST_fJV0

Looking at it now that doesn’t seem to be right

Oh well

[finite dragon]

Who's banging around there, eh? Let me come down and give you a good hammering!

[lucid elm]

Hey does anyone remember the monster concept design that looked like small tree monsters? Or am I high?

[mystic anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-creature-tree-gif-5487990

[opaque parrot]

Has anyone here used The Roadside Reshade addon?

Is there a console command or something to make things a bit brighter?

It's too dark inside the buildings even with the flashlight on

Sometimes it's too dark outside as well, even during the day

[humble meteor]

Hey, was Chernobyl (city) ever in any of the games or the mods

[short canyon]

It was in lost alpha I think

[humble meteor]

I guess that Duga was an inspiration for Brainscorcher/Radar

Right?

[tired anvil]

Limansk

[humble meteor]

Huh

[tired anvil]

?

[humble meteor]

alright, thanks

[tired anvil]

Also for Duga

The radar in Limansk is an identical model of Duga, just cut down to actually fit in the map

Devs even said so in an interview

https://youtu.be/6_KHvJ4qFZM?t=1325

Timestamped

[hazy helm]

I need to download this for later

[pseudo yoke]

I hope in Stalker 2 I can climb duga

Or they add some sort of photo mode

So I can get 4k screenshots of Emissions

[hazy helm]

that would be dope man

[pseudo yoke]

I also want a 4k recording of a blowout

Everything I record has bad artefacting

[finite dragon]

i hope stalker 2 got online mod like EFT

that would be soo freaking dope yo

[lean igloo]

i just want a coop mode

[finite dragon]

there ray of hope

dont know when it comming out

[pseudo yoke]

Stalker should have nothing in common with EFT

Please GSC, if you see this. The only multiplayer Stalker needs is limited 2 - 4 player coop

[finite dragon]

i hear u vykhlop

but ray of hope is not like EFT

all ik is massive maps and factions and quests and artifact hunting and pvp and pve

like waaaaaaaay better to be honest

[hushed aurora]

RoH aint coming out any time soon

[finite dragon]

which is sucks :C

[pseudo yoke]

Ray of Hope probably isnt coming out

Just like Tarkov isn't going to be fixed

[hushed aurora]

S2 Will come out first

[pseudo yoke]

Just like Randy will never sell Duke Nukem

Just like 343i will never make a good Halo game

and just like Sergei will never have enough pepsi

I have hope for Xrmpe though

Since we can actually play it

[finite dragon]

you got a good point

[hushed aurora]

Ye, xrmpe is a Lot closer to us