They don't want a repeat of SoC
#⭐┃nospoilers_general
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fair crater
imagine sucking of owl for good ending 
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Call of Pripyat further tied together Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky together using subtle storytelling. Hopefully Skif's story gets tied into the original story in a similar manner.
Who knows, but we have to take under consideration that all of the shared teasers, images, and trailers only include Rookie Village, the underground labs, Limansk, and Pripyat
sand fiber
I wouldn't say that CoP tried to tie two parts.
More like all three parts use ideas from S:OL/SoC desdocks, and CoP ideas are what they couldn't realise in CS because of the time :smile_degtyarev:
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Clear Sky explains the cause for the events in Shadow of Chernobyl, and Call of Pripyat explains what happened in after the previous two games. CoP also states that apparently, ||Clear Sky used to be involved in the C-Consciousness and in the creation of Item 62||
sand fiber
I'm talking about concepts and ideas, and Item 62 was invented in <2007 
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wasn't work cancelled in 2004 though?
sand fiber
Nah, it's just that Cardan and some other people were told that it's cancelled, while actually it was still in development
But, i remembered that Cardan mentions that they used artifacts in the final version, so it probably was finished in ~2008 or something. O-or artifacts were created before the second explosion
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there are so many small details you can miss. ||for example, the room with the psuedogiant has a moveable platform with a thick sheet of metal with holes of various sizes in it. on the wall behind the trolley there are impact marks made from the tests of the large version of Item 62 from the next room||
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But, i remembered that Cardan mentions that they used artifacts in the final ver...
but didn't stalkers originally start coming to the zone in 2010?
sand fiber
Uh, no. The first stalkers came to zone right after the second explosion
still ridge
2006
still ridge
Uh, no. The first stalkers came to zone right after the second explosion
Or prior
technically
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https://youtu.be/wY3jDDnUZno?t=135 ||if item 62 was older than that, shouldn't the military have known? In Clear Sky, Lebedev gives a prototype of Item 62 to take out Strelok's protection. If Lebedev was involved in its creation, why would he give Scar a prototype instead of the real thing?||
In 2007, the few expeditions into the zone, usually ended in tragedy
grand pendant
Duty was already formed by 2006
still ridge
In 2007, the few expeditions into the zone, usually ended in tragedy
By military
Because the military is incompetent
grand pendant
that and the Zone is sentient, so it fought back unleashing a Great Emission
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either way, Lebedev was/is a secretive man. The few factions in the zone at the time were probably small and only started rapidly growing as of the stalker boom in 2009/10
sand fiber
https://youtu.be/wY3jDDnUZno?t=135 ||if item 62 was older than that, shouldn't t...
First of all, that M1 Magnetic Rifle isn't Item 62, as far as i know.
Secondly, Lebedev was a part of C-con, but left before the explosion and the first artifacts.
And, we have evidences of the first stalkers to arrive in 2006-2007, and not only in 2010. CS would make no sense if people were arriving only in 2010, because there are like ten thousands people in it :smile_degtyarev:
grand pendant
the faction boom was most likely 2011, with the Factions War. By 2009-10 i assume mostly an influx of lone mercs
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the faction boom was most likely 2011, with the Factions War. By 2009-10 i assum...
this ^
sand fiber
And yeah, slide says that there was 300 people in Zone in 2010
grand pendant
First of all, that M1 Magnetic Rifle isn't Item 62, as far as i know.
Secondly,...
you know well, the EM-1 rifle can't damage people
sand fiber
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you know well, the EM-1 rifle can't damage people
only slight damage when tested in freeplay
but that damage is on the level of being unpractical
grand pendant
And yeah, slide says that there was 300 people in Zone in 2010
not sure if that counts the monolith because by 2012 Operation Monolith calculates around 100 to 150 monolithians lmao
sand fiber
but that damage is on the level of being unpractical
It's just the game, lore-wise it makes no damage at all
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not sure if that counts the monolith because by 2012 Operation Monolith calculat...
but do we really know much about who the monolith are?
grand pendant
yeah, we do
sand fiber
We can't be sure that EM-1 isn't some kind of another Item 62 version, but i doubt that Lebedev could stole one prototype and work on it with two people to make fully working gun
grand pendant
they were dudes who believed in an alien crystal and were preaching their religion, until they became increasingly fanatic and opened fire on stalkers to protect the Center
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they were dudes who believed in an alien crystal and were preaching their religi...
other than that
grand pendant
well, they are brainwashed people. Can be anyone
sand fiber
^
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where they're from, who their supplier is... who and how brainwashes them... who their leader is...
sand fiber
where they're from, who their supplier is... who and how brainwashes them... who...
Their leader is Haron, they're being controlled by C-con
grand pendant
the Group is their supplier, leader and everything
pseudo rivet
Brain Scorcher*
sand fiber
Suppliers are someone who C-con has contacts with, the only thing we know that Monolith getting their suits from country other than Ukraine
sand fiber
So it simply can be contract with some company on a fake purposes
pseudo rivet
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sad a lot of this was cut... Cut game data points to two units known as the Left and Right hands of the Monolith, armed with FT-200M rifles and Black Kite pistols. These may have been ranks, honorifics or titles among the Monolithians.
Further cut data shows an individual called the "Komandir", another Monolithian leader, separate from Charon, with his own model and equipped with a Gauss rifle and a Black Kite. Cut Monolith units also include fighters called "Regulars" and "Specnaz", of which there were several equipment variants.
grand pendant
every faction has craftsmen so either that or based Group craftsmen
pseudo rivet
Eh, hasn't changed much
sand fiber
sad a lot of this was cut
90% of the game was cut
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yeah...
sand fiber
grand pendant
a lot of it was cut for the best though, so probably like 30% was actually cool
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I actually like stuff like the monolith still being shrouded in mystery.
either the stash corpses are truly monolith or it's just GSC reusing assets
grand pendant
they were pre-brainwashed monolithians
sand fiber
a lot of it was cut for the best though, so probably like 30% was actually cool
Meh... I wouldn't say so. It's just that S:OL/SoC experienced too many concept changes even in some details
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hopefully a lot of our questions get answered by S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 so that we don't have to mainly rely on cut content in order to get the entirety of the lore.
sand fiber
Welp Cut Content isn't Canon so
It is, but without it the entire franchise makes no sense
pseudo rivet
where they're from
From all the antennas around the Zone
who their supplier is...
Unknown, Kovalsky suspects some corrupt perimeter guard gives them access to it, but the actual supplier is unknown
who brainwashes them...
The Group
and how brainwashes them...
With the psi-fields around the Zone. Once a Stalker gets in range of an antenna, the Group gains direct control over the Stalker's consciousness and reprograms them to a specific purpose
who their leader is...
Technically, the Group. Monolith-wise, other than Charon, we don't know
hushed aurora
I'd say elaborate but dunno if have enough time to read that 2000 word wall of text you got ready to send
pseudo rivet
grand pendant
Charon thinks he is control but he ain't, this gangsta stuff is too big for him
otherwise, prepare for monolith rebels 
hushed aurora
Monolith rebels
pseudo rivet
Honorable or no?
pseudo rivet
Strider
grand pendant
they disagree on how to pray 
hushed aurora
>Strider
O, right
What if the whole monolith (or atleast most of it) gets unbrainwashed and Strider helps them break free,
And so Strider got his own faction
pseudo rivet
they disagree on how to pray <:messer:619178066857558036>
Oh, I see where this is going
grand pendant
sounds corny
hushed aurora
Kek
sand fiber
What if the whole monolith (or atleast most of it) gets unbrainwashed and Stride...
- noooo you can't just kill me i'm trying to help you understand that monolith isn't reeaaaalll
- Ha-ha, gun goes Pew-Pew. Brothers, we found a heretic, kill him!
hushed aurora
sand fiber
grand pendant
it's funny though, SoC folklore hints that they kinda brainwash themselves a little bit
sand fiber
yeah
grand pendant
in dark valley, a monolithian broke loose of the trance for a moment but he decided to keep believing by himself
sand fiber
grand pendant
pretty keyed
pseudo rivet
Eh, I'd say lost his faith
grand pendant
not at all, read On the test of faith
he kinda realises the whole picture out of nowhere but decides to keep believing
rather than losing faith dude actually cracked the code
grand pendant
it's definitely beyond a simple "doubt", because he never willingly believed in the first place 
grand pendant
there's no dates in folklore, nothing really says when that story was written. But who knows honestly, it looks to fanatical to not come from brainwashing but they were also on the brink of losing it by early 2011
pseudo rivet
It'd be weird for a Monolithian to come in the Dark Valley
That would mean that the Barrier just wouldn't be doing its job right
Then again, most of the PDA folklore is just uncut content, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
grand pendant
i mean, they literally came back after crossing the scorcher
they were already brainwashed and did cross to the south, Hog's eyes are based
grand pendant
then it does add up, your calculator might be broken
grand pendant
shame it couldn't stop a full expedition back then
or maybe just a little squadron anyway, wasn't that detailed
pseudo rivet
Good thing that happened earlier. Allowed them to go to the CNPP afterwards to become even brainwashereder
opaque parrot
Imagine Monolith making a full-scale offensive towards the southern parts in the new game
Hope that won't be the case tho
But I sure as hell would like to see Monolith come back to life as a faction anyway
sand fiber
Meh
fair crater
nimble gives you deals on the gear you love
that kind of deal that make you go boogey
bandit radio
sand fiber
But I sure as hell would like to see Monolith come back to life as a faction any...
Monolith is dead, and the only thing we'll see in S2 is Monolith dying, (if S2 will happen not after 10 years after SoC or something ). It's Zone, and there are no place for magic returns
opaque parrot
Well I guess in that case they need one helluva idea to make it interesting
Seriously now, when you connect the story of all the games in the series it all came down to the Monolith and uncovering the secrets in CNPP
fair crater
me no want lore
sand fiber
The best way will just show them dying and tragedy of brainwashed people
opaque parrot
They and the C-Con were actually the main antagonists the whole time
opaque parrot
Now they need something new and big definitely
grand pendant
Now they need something new and big definitely
literally the group
opaque parrot
@grand pendant The Group is long gone if I recall correctly
Strelok obliterated them back in SoC
grand pendant
you recall incorrectly
opaque parrot
How come?
grand pendant
what Strelok killed was C-Con, 7 people
opaque parrot
Well those guys are the Group
Lebedev and the rest of them died in the attack on the CNPP back in CS
Only if there's more of them outside the Zone...
grand pendant
no, the Group is an organization responsible for the creation of the C-Con
they are still active in CoP, giving orders
opaque parrot
Wait, what
I must've missed something then...
I thought they all joined the C-Con
Except for those few in Clear Sky
Who in the end died in the attack
If you have a link for some of that info pls send it
sand fiber
they are still active in CoP, giving orders
You mean those guys in One shot One kill quest, and mercenaries mission at all?
hushed aurora
The one part of the lore i never understood was Strelok's ""faction""
Iirc he had one right, or atleast rumoured so
opaque parrot
@hushed aurora Simply a Loner and a failed brainwashing experiment
sand fiber
I don't think that they're totally guys from The Group, might be some random guys.
opaque parrot
@sand fiber They are just some random guys
sand fiber
Iirc he had one right, or atleast rumoured so
Strelok's group is 4(5) guys
opaque parrot
I don't know who else besides the C-Con and the Clear Sky leaders could be a member of The Group
sand fiber
Doctor, Guide, Fang, Ghost, Strelok
sand fiber
And there is one line in SoC about some guy called Vydra being in Strelok's group
Two-three, actually
grand pendant
You mean those guys in One shot One kill quest, and mercenaries mission at all?
they could be but there's no proof, they are active bc the monolith still gets orders. they receive reinforcements and equipment
opaque parrot
But the Monolith began falling apart
sand fiber
Eh? Monolith doesn't get reinforcements, at least there is no information about that in CoP
grand pendant
just bc a small squad broke the brainwashing doesn't mean they all did
opaque parrot
That's why I don't understand how could there still be anything or anyone controlling them
sand fiber
And they just use their old equipment, because that's logical
grand pendant
literally at the end of the game they still keep fighting
opaque parrot
No, I don't mean Strider's group
Yes, but it was evidenced that they as a faction are falling apart
grand pendant
The one part of the lore i never understood was Strelok's ""faction""
yeah, he had a big faction dedicated to get info. They all got capped
opaque parrot
And keep trying to communicate with the Monolith (maybe?) via antennas
hushed aurora
yeah, he had a big faction dedicated to get info. They all got capped
Yea that's what i meant
Not just Ghost, Fang, Doc, etc
sand fiber
literally at the end of the game they still keep fighting
Yes, but there are too many Monolith members. It just can't be destroyed that easily
fair crater
jow babushka
grand pendant
@hushed aurora
Well, there used to be this faction... Huh... There were all sorts of legends about it going around the Zone...good and bad, but few people really knew the truth. The truth is that they wanted to deal with the Zone, find out what created it. That's why military stalkers were after them but they didn't know where to look. The government didn't want normal stalkers to know things they shouldn't have known. One day they found something really important and part of the faction and Strelok made a move towards the center of the Zone. Half of the group died on the way but the rest made it through... What happened to them there - no one knows. Looks like they've died out there. The other group members were caught and killed off... I don't think there are any of them left now. Sad story, eh?
grand pendant
ofc in this dialogue they don't mean his close group, bc all of their statuses were unknown
opaque parrot
@sand fiber Exactly why I'm saying the need something good
grand pendant
Yes, but there are **too** many Monolith members. It just can't be destroyed tha...
obviously lol
sand fiber
Not just Ghost, Fang, Doc, etc
Faction in S:OL was used in definition of "Group". For example, S:OL CS "faction" was literally 3 people.
And in russian localisation Strelok's faction is "Группа Стрелка", which mean's Strelok's group, but not faction
hushed aurora
Faction in S:OL was used in definition of "Group". For example, S:OL CS "faction...
Yeah but that's S:OL
Tell me which part of that is canon
grand pendant
opaque parrot
hushed aurora
Exactly, none
sand fiber
Tell me which part of that is canon
Release SoC is literally Frankenstein's monster, it has a lot of content that was not completely cut, and definition of some things was changing everyday, so if we want to understand SoC - we need to look at desdocs and builds
sand fiber
but Strelok did have a faction
?
sand fiber
Wait a second, i need to find a source
grand pendant
it's a random dialogue in SoC
there's even a stash about it
Stash of the Strelok Faction
sand fiber
I still don't see anything about big Strelok's faction, simply looks like early concepts of what happened to some Strelok's group members (not cs killed fang, but military) and describing that one rush to the centre of Zone
grand pendant
you didn't read it correctly then
Half of the group died on the way but the rest made it through... What happened to them there - no one knows. Looks like they've died out there. The other group members were caught and killed off
sand fiber
I think i need to read russian version of this, but still, it makes absolutely no sense in the lore then.
grand pendant
it adds up, Strelok simply had more people working for him than just Fang, Ghost, Guide, Doc
fair crater
nah
grand pendant
it would also explain people like Otter
fair crater
зе еспандабле
grand pendant
greetings
hushed aurora
Sup'
sacred shuttle
Whats new?
grand pendant
all along 
grand pendant
maybe he's dead by now
pseudo rivet
finite dragon
Monolith whose standard recruitment is never directly mentioned
I assume consists of those stalkers that broke through the barrier and eventually succumbed to a more directed psionic brainwashing than the zombifying effects of the brain scorcher
this would make sense considering their numbers and that they are generally the most experienced and advanced faction
and their very varied equipment aswell
grand pendant
that is the most standard recruitment, the psy fields scathered throughout the Zone
the first brainwashed monolithians were recruited that way
finite dragon
yeah and then there is the brainwashing chamber which is where c-con gets their marked agents
it's reasonable to assume that something like the wish granter itself which is a powerful and highly refined psionic emitter could essentially erase a person's mind aside from devotion to monolith instead of frying their brain like the brain scorcher
so essentially getting close enough to the center is like a hidden test recquisite for becoming monolith
grand pendant
that monolith is an illusion, could even just be a hologram
finite dragon
I figure it's a psionic emitter that is very refined
since it basically makes you hallucinate
grand pendant
that's the point, an illusion
finite dragon
yeah. I'm thinking if you aren't an enemy of C-Con directly as you approach the wish granter you get turned into a monolithian or something or they have another emitter
finite dragon
The Security Service of Ukraine is calling all right-minded and loyal citizens to collaborate with the authorities. Report all known cases of stalking! Do not let the looters hide behind your backs! They bring radioactive, unidentified items from the Zone that are highly dangerous for human health and life! Only with your help can we eliminate this hideous phenomenon! Do not put your lives and the lives of your families at risk for the sake of dubious profit!
modern rock
what if S2 release the 26th of april
leaden hamlet
what if S2 release the 26th of april
2022 maybe, I can't see it being ready in time for April this year. Although I'd love to be proven wrong. 😀
hushed aurora
Could be late 2021, or early 2022
I wouldn't like it to be released so early, we don't know how far the game is
modern rock
i agree, april of this year would probably be too early
acoustic parcel
what if S2 release the 26th of april
would be cool, but highly unlikely. maybe 26th December, 1991 2021
shrewd bison
nice
slate pendant
I would rather GSC took their time
We don't want another cyberpunk 2077 situation, do we?
fair crater
agree
still ridge
i agree, april of this year would probably be too early
I wouldn’t be too sure
3+ years of development
I think it’s a safe assumption that it could release Q2 or Q3 of 2021
modern rock
I didnt thought specifically of 26th of april of this year actually
I want the game to be FINISHED when it releases, im fine waiting until 2022
acoustic parcel
would be nice to have a stalker game that was actually 100% finished upon release for a change.
like no cut content
sand fiber
like no cut content
It's impossible due to concepts changes and draft variants of some stuff
acoustic parcel
It's impossible due to concepts changes and draft variants of some stuff
You can't cut content if there's no content to begin with.
On a different note, Shadow of Chernobyl's level of cut content was just stupid.
sand fiber
You can't cut content if there's no content to begin with.
On a different note,...
But when you finish making something - you have to cut content
It wasn't stupid.
The development was so long, and S:OL/SoC experienced so many script, quests, concepts, ideas, locations, mechanics changes.
Some of those ideas could not be ever possible realised, so if there wasn't that 2006 massive SoC cut - there would be no SoC
mystic axle
How intense is the combat for STALKER
vanilla
Seen some clips, but those are all heavily modded
tired anvil
Honestly, it's hard to say. It's not super hard for most, but some consider it difficult
The AI in CoP and CS is better than SoC though @mystic axle
finite dragon
Oh crap! I'm a sitting duck here, just what am i waiting for eh?
opaque parrot
@tired anvil CS had the best AI imho
Mainly because of the squads and the cover system
Now that I mentioned cover, I think it would be cool to have some sort of cover system for the player, something similar to Far Cry
Like leaning above the cover, the usual side stepping and all
But I'm fine with the current leaning technique either way tho
meager plover
Now that I mentioned cover, I think it would be cool to have some sort of cover ...
No, because that didn't function properly.
opaque parrot
You mean FC cover system?
kind breach
@sacred shuttle ?
sacred shuttle
Guys,how go to rank up from novice?
wicked current
No, because that didn't function properly.
he said similar, not the same. and why would you put something not functioning in the game?
sacred shuttle
wicked current
type.
wicked current
spam will get ya in trouble.
sacred shuttle
I k
raven raptor
Guys,how go to rank up from novice?
#💬┃en_offtop, ranking up is just talking on server. you gain exp only once per minute, so spam couldnt help.
wicked current
novice, experienced, veteran, master and legend of the zone
raven raptor
How many ranks here?
novice, experienced, veteran, master, legend of zone
experienced - 10 level, veteran - 25, master - 50, lotz - 75
sacred shuttle
How many people from moderators, admins, creators have "LOTZ"
wicked current
like two
raven raptor
How many people from moderators, admins, creators have "LOTZ"
3, i guess
sacred shuttle
Hm
wicked current
rebel is master?
raven raptor
rebel is master?
legend of the zone
sacred shuttle
Last i read like "Gay"
tired anvil
Rebel isn't
raven raptor
Rebel isn't
hm. then only two
tired anvil
He's also 4th
wicked current
he just yellow and free
sacred shuttle
Yes
My color = color of pee
Sometimes toilet is "Exploding"
Ahh nu.. Nice theme to talk about it
meager plover
I just got an idea
what if in S2
Sin makes an appearance as the main antagonist
now hear me out
pseudo rivet
meager plover
Sin, to me, is a very cool faction
even if it was cut
If the C-Consciousness is ded ending is true
then Sin having gained the control of most of the labs and probably control of the monolith
tries to make the biggest emission ever to convert the world into the Zone
pseudo rivet
Would that mean that the Zone and everything in it would be a dream?
meager plover
I don't know what you mean by that
pseudo rivet
Seen how dark stalkers are only canon in nightmares, thus that image
meager plover
Seen how dark stalkers are only canon in nightmares, thus that image <:smile_deg...
I mean, as far as I'm concerned
not really
Dark Stalkers don't really mean Sin, but they are associated with them
since Sin is literally a bunch of mutated stalkers
a big bunch
pseudo rivet
Wrong
That would be LA's Sin
Dark stalker is a collective name, obviously, but seen how Freedom aren't a part of that anymore, I'd say they would be a part of that. And even then, they only appeared in a nightmare
The less we think about it, the better
Besides, ||if C-Con is destroyed, then they would need to repair the machine. This would probably be pretty hard. Even if this would be possible, the Monolith still controls the CNPP. Apart from that, C-Con doesn't control Emissions, it tries to restrict the Zone||
meager plover
Besides, ||if C-Con is destroyed, then they would need to repair the machine. Th...
C-Con did control emissions
That's the entire plot of CS
also
pseudo rivet
meager plover
on the topic of cut factions
who are the black slugs?
what is UNISG?
Final Day I only know the basics
pseudo rivet
Just based bandits
meager plover
I remember somebody mentioning a "wanderers" faction
pseudo rivet
Here, I suggest you to take a look at this wiki
It has all kinds of info about cut-content
raven raptor
https://stalker-ru.gamepedia.com/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B...
zone chronicles 
crimson you are pog
pseudo rivet
I know nothing about bildy 
raven raptor
I know nothing about bildy <:feels_bad_stalk:598821281277673475>
i have all builds on my hdd
i can show you...
raven raptor
Nah, thank you for the offer
finite dragon
tfw private Sergey clogged the latrine again 
woven fern
is there a s.t.a.l.k.e.r. movie
robust forge
I hope that you're baiting bruv
woven fern
well like one based off the game
sand fiber
there is one based on the "deserter" stalker book
woven fern
oh
sand fiber
but why do you need s.t.a.l.k.e.r. movies when there are stalker by tarkovskiy and brothers strugatskiy's books
wraith owl
how soon do you encounter the scary underground stuff that SoC is notorious for? i’m about 3rd level in and while it’s fine so far i’m looking for that survival horror feeling
tired anvil
There's a few of those
hushed aurora
In the underground of Agroprom
sand fiber
how soon do you encounter the scary underground stuff that SoC is notorious for?...
Agroprom. And yeah, SoC notorious not only because of one location
hushed aurora
And X18
sand fiber
tired anvil
X-18,X-16, Agroprom
sand fiber
And BS bunker
hushed aurora
Those are the 2 "spooky" moments, X16 is more shooter imo
wraith owl
is that anywhere close to where i’m at or still a ways to go?
wraith owl
i like it so far, looking forward to seeing what’s coming next
sand fiber
is that anywhere close to where i’m at or still a ways to go?
Just follow the main quest. But where you are currently?
wraith owl
idr, can’t check now i think i’m like 3rd or 4th level, helping defend against bandits etc
sand fiber
Garbage?
wraith owl
yeah think so
tired anvil
What are some of the quests you have?
wraith owl
just talk to someone, help protect from bandits, a couple of those type things. nothing super different
tired anvil
Who's the someone?
Trying to figure out where you're at in the game by the questline
meager plover
just talk to someone, help protect from bandits, a couple of those type things....
You're at Seriy, you're pretty close to a big shootout with military
Get ammo
Pick up weapons and unload em, then drop em
You practically can't run out of ammo
shrewd bison
Get out of here. stalker
meager plover
@shrewd bison "If you've got anything to say, say it, if not, piss off."
shrewd bison
if only someone would help me
wraith owl
damn, i had no idea you could unload weapons for the ammo
i was out here pinging dudes with my pea shooter
solid prism
It's good you can trade the ammo or use it but most of the time you'll get 5,45 and 9,18 bullets or shotgun shells.Still it's better than taking the whole weapon with you.Weapons don't worth their weight in Stalker games i must say.Take one only if it's in great condition.
wraith owl
learned that the hard way, i assumed i could fill up all my slots and sell to the trader but nope
finite dragon
Ey, anybody got a fix for a problem I've been having with save files? I've been trying to get saves from one computer to another, but for some reason the save files are shared through steam, yet they aren't the same. When I load up the game on one computer, I have all my saves, and the other one, none.
TL;DR Idk how to inject saves properly
Oh, on a side note, this is soc
meager plover
Ey, anybody got a fix for a problem I've been having with save files? I've been ...
I think you can't. I believe the saves can't be extracted without extracting the whole game. The reason why the saves are only one computer is because SoC doesn't cloud save.
finite dragon
hello
i have a problem in stalker shadow of chernobyl
whenever I respawn I instantly die, is there a way to fix this issue?
meager plover
whenever I respawn I instantly die, is there a way to fix this issue?
did you use quicksaves
finite dragon
uh no
meager plover
then you should be fine if you find a save that's the next closest
finite dragon
when I saved the game I didn't die, and I was full health but when I respawn I instantly die
meager plover
to the bugged one
meager plover
it's a small bug
I think it's where if you have any negative side effects
after every reload the effects get maximized
and basically instadeath
finite dragon
yeah maybe
finite dragon
magic reef
past shuttle
fringe acorn
Hello
meager plover
Hello
Hello there, new to Stalker or are you a long time fan?
Either way, you'll fit in nicely
finite dragon
I think you can't. I believe the saves can't be extracted without extracting the...
Oh dang. Well I guess I'll just start up a new adventure.
Just out of curiosity, are there legit GSC devs here? If so, tell em I said привет
meager plover
Just out of curiosity, are there legit GSC devs here? If so, tell em I said прив...
...
bruh
they're at the top of the whole name section
fenec, mcculkin
those guys are GSC employees
meager plover
actually lemme search it up
oh
it says from 201 to 500
so yeah
I was way off
finite dragon
Still...
Probably enough to get what needs to be done, done
The Atomic Heart team is like 10 people rn
Then again, Atomic Heart has been in the works for the better part of this century
meager plover
ngl Atomic heart seems like a scam
finite dragon
Idk, it seems like they're picking up
meager plover
it's doesn't look like a game
meager plover
finite dragon
In any case, they could hearken in a new era of game tech
finite dragon
Well, they could be if they release before tech catches up
meager plover
During HL's development, Valve was only 10 people
finite dragon
Yep
They rewrote it in '97
They cut a lot of different stuff for quality control
meager plover
Well, they could be if they release before tech catches up
still a better game than Dota2
that's for sure
oh crap
I replied to the wrong thing
finite dragon
And, in my eyes, half life still holds up as a fun game with a great engine today
meager plover
oh really?
finite dragon
There are still people using goldsrc
meager plover
finite dragon
In the indie community of course
finite dragon
Well, probably the biggest example would be Cry of Fear, which is still fairly popular, and receives occasional updates
finite dragon
Source is certainly more wide-spread
meager plover
Nobody is using Goldsource
finite dragon
Well nobody big
meager plover
nobody small either
finite dragon
But it was out of this world before...
Well before half life 2
Lmao
Funny they pretty much ushered in two eras of tech
Source 2 isn't anything to sneeze at, but other than having good non-ray-traced lighting, it's nothing really new
meager plover
scuse me wut
tired anvil
X-Ray 2.0 is where it's at
finite dragon
Its great, but it's on par with other tech
tired anvil
What's on Source 2 again? Alyx and Dota?
finite dragon
Its not creating a new era in videogame design
meager plover
@tired anvil Could I get a rank up, I've been in the zone for a while now
tired anvil
You'll get it automatically eventually
tired anvil
Soon™️
meager plover
finite dragon
Marked one, clear out the nest of snorks and grab all the hentai you see. We'll talk about a reward as soon as you're back
meager plover
bruh, you remember that time when the controller was supposed to climb on walls
and throw zombies at you
finite dragon
Is the controller the psionic thingy? Idk the names for all the monsters. Usually just fill em with 7.62
tired anvil
It is
meager plover
7.62 is sniper rifle ammo
tired anvil
It's also the thing in the emote I just posted
meager plover
how'd you get a rifle
tired anvil
But that's the very early version of it
finite dragon
I thought the AK used 7.62?
meager plover
it's a 74
meager plover
5.45.X39mm
finite dragon
Be cool if there was an pkm in game
meager plover
it's expensive as all hell
finite dragon
Ah of course
finite dragon
Gotta live selling artifacts for the price of pocket change, and buying bread for the price of a car
meager plover
however you can get the rpg in SoC
meager plover
Well mods can always fix that
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
finite dragon
Yeah I think I had an RPG at one point
meager plover
NOT UNTIL YOU FINISH IT VANILLA
finite dragon
bruh
finite dragon
Yep
meager plover
good
finite dragon
I haven't finished it since though
finite dragon
Its too much fun just flooking around in the zone rather than finishing the game
finite dragon
Oh dang
finite dragon
Anyway, my usual weapon of choice is a g36 (whatever it's called in game) and the big ben
Gosh dang, it sure is sad that I can't cross saves
meager plover
gp37
meager plover
also, do you play on master
finite dragon
Well I started my new game in master
still ridge
if I’m not mistaken you can use “AK” and “M4”
finite dragon
I think I played last on stalker
still ridge
I remember there was a lawsuit
Which resulted in “M4” being available for use, since it’s so generic
meager plover
bruh
finite dragon
Yeah I doubt there's too much copyright protection on the most generic weapons of all time
still ridge
that’s what the court deemed
meager plover
imagine suing somebody over them making your gun in a videogame
finite dragon
However- with companies like HK, they get pissy
finite dragon
P90 pog
finite dragon
I imagine they're scared of games like postal turning their weapons into icons of edginess
still ridge
well they’re not companies most of the time
it’s not like they risk getting shut down
raw rain
planning on trying misery mod, how would people that have played it rate it?
still ridge
2/10 “”””realism””””
There’s a point where it gets too far
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for survival mechanics, but misery makes it practically unplayable
raw rain
sounds good I'll give it a go
I saw a playthrough of it, first part where you have to escape a house surrounded by zombies in the dark does seem pretty insane
still ridge
I don’t recommend it whatsoever @raw rain
you should get gunslinger instead
Comes with graphical enhancements as well
raw rain
is it anomaly that allows you to play as monolith?
raw rain
aight bet, monolith hours
still ridge
have fun
fair crater
HERESY
loud axle
anyone have an invite link for the anomaly discord?
grand pendant
i'll dm it
loud axle
thanks
high field
Am i the only one who found anomaly dull and chore to play
grand pendant
nah, it's ass
meager plover
nah, it's ass
your opinion, even if it is below the worth of a pebble
high field
So many annoying features its goddamn impossible to enjoy
Witcher 3 has better gameplay
high field
Nothings bait, i genuenly got bored to death playing that
fair crater
yeah im kidding
its truly the worst mode ever made
for the worthless game
cant believe they got the gut to make a sequel
we will see them fail
sand fiber
Am i the only one who found anomaly dull and chore to play
Every normal person thinks it's bad, so congratulations
average mods fan
average builds enjoyer
grand pendant
@fair crater be careful with your word choice
fair crater
i know which word is allowed
grand pendant
now learn what isn't
magic reef
Wow
high field
Glad to know im not alone
fair crater
im pretty sure someone used that word
magic reef
What word
fair crater
joe
sullen dragon
frail spire
w3
gameplay
Press F to smell fart trail
magic reef
high field
>w3
>gameplay
*Press F to smell fart trail*
exactly
solid dome
2/10 “”””realism””””
2.5 out of 10
Could have been better in the polishing area (optimization); Use Anomaly
leaden hamlet
Anyone have any ideas why Dushman is so ugly
I've wondered this too! He looks like he walked in on his parents doing The Nasty with a pair of Burers or something. 🤣
finite dragon
eyy people i kinda have no acess to the sugesstions channel, can any mod gimm e a perm?
hushed aurora
The moderator taking care of the channel can't be active
So it got locked
Until new advise
finite dragon
i see
hushed aurora
~~Literally what it says in the channel ~~
finite dragon
well what a shame, wanted to re-do one of my suggestions in a more organized fashion
i will just hope that gsc saw it
tired anvil
You could always edit it, but other than that it's sort of closed for a while now
finite dragon
im gonna do it then
finite dragon
yo dudes, are there any audiobooks of roadside picnic
i was thinking of finally reading it like the pleb i am
modest shadow
Hello, is there any reason why I recieved codes when I bought the three stalker games on steam? it tells me that later on I'll be asked for the codes but it never happened
So what are the codes for?
tired anvil
@modest shadow you can try using them to get a free copy of the games on the GOG launcher, but past that they are pretty much useless for you
modest shadow
Oh okay thanks
little beacon
There will be a new main character, a Stalker called "Skif"!
tired anvil
Yep, we've known this for a while now
little beacon
Oh,
I thought it's new!
tired anvil
We found out when the teaser released
little beacon
How?
tired anvil
It was in the description
little beacon
Well,
It seems I watch videos on YouTube in bad way
tired anvil
little beacon
toxic vector
i got a bug with boomstick and sharpstick addon for anomaly. The tactical M4 uses 20 round mags instead of 30
can someone help me?
oblique dew
hi
jagged oracle
прив
magic reef
Sup
nimble salmon
Can anyone help me how to fix the quicksave crashes on call of Chernobyl
It was working fine yesterday but now it started crashing again
carmine pivot
No clue how to help, sorry :/ I’m sure someone else does tho!
kindred rampart
Does anyone know if Stalker 2 is going to have A-Life in it?
Cuz i seriously hope it does. Lol
pseudo rivet
Yeah, A-Life 2.0
raven raptor
Does anyone know if Stalker 2 is going to have A-Life in it?
a-life 2.0
kindred rampart
Cool! Thanks
raven raptor
kindred rampart
Kinda wondering how hard will it be to implement A-Life in Unreal tho.
knotty turtle
Kinda wondering how hard will it be to implement A-Life in Unreal tho.
No, unreal have a lot of tools for AI
kindred rampart
Maybe but will it be truly A-Life tho
robust forge
It could be
But it won't
It's Unreal, afterall
You slap a generic manequin-looking NPC, give him some bad lip sync, drip the whole game in rain, turn up contrast to 11 and you got yourself an UE4 game
knotty turtle
You slap a generic manequin-looking NPC, give him some bad lip sync, drip the wh...
I did a similar thing, in general there is a lot of things ready
robust forge
I don't expect GSC doing anything more than that tbh
Maybe cater a bit to Anomaly community
Since what we've seen already is Anomaly 2.0
kindred rampart
To be honest im more afraid of it being too easy cuz of the consoles.
robust forge
It will be dumbed down for sure
finite dragon
Newbie stalker decided to take a walk and reached Pripyat
haha
robust forge
Also seeing as GSC wants to get in the big leagues, S2 will most likely be a journalist game
knotty turtle
It will be dumbed down for sure
robust forge
As I've said, Anomaly 2.0
knotty turtle
Anomaly 2.0.2.1
robust forge
They'll forget completely about the sci-fi part of Stalker for sure
It will be surely a shame to see stalker devolve into another generic postapocalyptic game
finite dragon
hm
knotty turtle
robust forge
Wallah, if S2 ends up being Anomaly 2, I will pipe bomb GSC's hq
fair crater
robust forge
I mean, what will Sergiei do to me, choke me with his missing finger?
finite dragon
Hello
robust forge
Sup
nimble salmon
Anyone know good mod packs for call of Chernobyl?
robust forge
Why do you want anything for CoC
I mean, there's CotZ and Stason
Both are the only way I can enjoy CoC
nimble salmon
Kinda sad that my wifi is too slow to download vanilla anoamly
robust forge
Good for you that you can't download that heap of steaming trash
kindred rampart
Afaik Anomaly is pretty popular.
finite dragon
any news about stalker 2? if no can I ask one question
robust forge
Yeah
I know
Couldn't find any other popular but bad mod from top of my head
Although Misery comes into mind
robust forge
Hmm
nimble salmon
Gunslinger is one hella of a mod
robust forge
Especially with that cuck of an author
kindred rampart
Great
Wish Tarkov looked like that, instead its just DayZ first person only experience
robust forge
Gunslinger would be good if it was implemented to other bigger mods
Like your oh beloved Anomaly even
kindred rampart
Idk man i enjoyed Gunslinger standalone too much actually
I get it you are butthurt
robust forge
Might be because I didn't really enjoy CoP tbh
And the pretty guns alone aren't enough to get me to like it
kindred rampart
Its not only the guns tho, its overall balanced to be more hard cuz of the damage.
Animations when healing etc
As i said, Tarkov as it should be.
robust forge
Ik
I'm simplifying for the sake of not writing an article
Just, I don't enjoy Gunslinger as a mod alone
If it was paired with some good mod, like OGSR or something, then I'd enjoy it
But the mod's author is dead set on keeping the mod for himself
That's what killed Doom's modding community tbh
hushed aurora
Doom's modding community ain't dead yet is it
kindred rampart
I kinda dislike how Gunslinger changed Controller and Burers tho.
OP as hell
X-8 was swarming with like 4 Burers and it was nearly impossible to get the documents cuz of props flying around like crazy.
hushed aurora
Don't you mean X-8
kindred rampart
Yep
woeful lynx
Doom's modding community is a fraction of what it used to be? Whaaaaaa?????? I don't recall that being the case
Burers are OP in Gunslinger. I had to spend like 30 minutes to kill two of them for one of hunting quests. It really doesn't help that you hardly get a chance to take a shot at them too.
kindred rampart
Exactly
Also spamming them with knife doesnt help at all anymore. Lol
I had to throw all my grenades at those two.
woeful lynx
I actually had to resort to rifles, because it didn't seem like shotguns were doing much
kindred rampart
I really hate how they just use their shield infinitely.
woeful lynx
iirc, that's how it used to be like in vanilla CoP too, but I swear there was something different that made them easier to deal with
kindred rampart
Yep, knives
You could go through their shield with a knife
In Gunslinger its not possible anymore
Also you had more options to hit them from afar. Now they just wallhack the shiz outta you.
finite dragon
does sidorovich die?
fleet wave
All the time
finite dragon
lol
robust forge
Hopefully
fleet wave
You can kill him at the end of SoC with a grenade at the teleport section
robust forge
You just have to tear a rouble in front of his eyes and he'll most likely have a cardiac arrest
fair crater
You can kill him at the end of SoC with a grenade at the teleport section
centricide
solid dome
Especially with that cuck of an author
Selfish? Anything? I don't even... what.
Also 'slinger already ported to few mods out there,
"It isn't possible", they said
frail spire
making burers use shield without limit
Wow thanks made the whole experience a pain to deal with
finite dragon
is it just me feel like i don't like playing this game i mean i like this game just I don't play it much
hidden gyro
Hi, can you get this great game somewhere?
hidden gyro
but it's a stalker Shadow of chernobyl I've got it since the release I thought stalker 2 🙂
covert wolf
waiting for stalker 2
finite dragon
same
finite dragon
i really think stalker 2 will be an amazing project
I'll never run the game but I will totally atleast watch a walkthrough
tired anvil
Well, I think you have some time to save a little money
I doubt you will need a 3080 to run it
median valley
jej
median valley
i hope its gonna be optimized
finite dragon
the stalker 2 stickers look amazing
even though they're just stickers I would like to have one of them
tired anvil
I'm not sure though if I will actually get a better pc
Well, the Xbox option exists
median valley
what stickers
finite dragon
like the ones they gave out for the secret stuff
tired anvil
They gave out some prizes for the cipher solvers and the moderators of this server
median valley
i guess so?
tired anvil
It will run on the Xbox series X
finite dragon
if it does run on series s that's dumb, ps5 is better than series s
finite dragon
It will run on the Xbox series X
aight thanks
steady arch
its not about not running they probably have a deal with microsoft
finite dragon
oh come on
steady arch
get a pc you can find them for super cheap
finite dragon
don't really enjoy this microsoft deal story
finite dragon
aight
tired anvil
Well, you don't see PS mentioned in the screenshot I sent
So yea
Don't forget the first trailer was also shown at a Microsoft game show
finite dragon
i have nothing against the deal though, they can do whatever they want all I need is just the game to come out
that's pretty much it cause I'm a pc player
tired anvil
Well then yea, you've nothing to worry about
steady arch
yeh
steady arch
imma get a better graphics card cause the game looks really pretty and i wanna be able to run it on high settings
finite dragon
same I guess
steady arch
my graphics card is from 2010
finite dragon
mine is from 2012
steady arch
nice
tired anvil
Mine is from 2016 I believe, I need a better CPU though
steady arch
yeah cause the old games are from like 2007
tired anvil
It's a 1060 6GB, not exactly outdated yet so it's still pretty decent
opaque parrot
Same here, GTX 1050ti
Gonna have to buy a new one soon
Think mine has 4GB
Was hoping I could get my hands on an RTX but nah, too much
pliant python
Was hoping I could get my hands on an RTX but nah, too much
isn't the 2000 series cheaper now? or am I dumb
hidden gyro
and when will it come out? Stalker 2
tired anvil
Currently 
still ridge
2021 seems to be the current consensus
meager plover
2021 seems to be the current consensus
It ain't lookin that way chief
probably is dev hell like it was for SoC
still ridge
QnA w GSC stated that “development is going as planned”
Also, iirc Xbox and IGN say it’s launching in 2021
hidden gyro
will it be in Czech as well?
still ridge
I’m sure it will, however this is not an official statement
hidden gyro
Thank you very much for the positive answer - pleased
tired anvil
I’m sure it will, however this is not an official statement
Any particular reason why you think that?
tired anvil
probably is dev hell like it was for SoC
Obviously words are just words, but they did mention working faster than planned
tired anvil
will it be in Czech as well?
Community mods are always there
meager plover
Obviously words are just words, but they did mention working faster than planned
I just hope some people don't leave GSC and make a linear ripoff again
tired anvil
Well, some people returned 
meager plover
It's just a joke on how Italy switched sides in WW1 and WW2.
oh
does that count as a rule break
because it's kinda politics
tired anvil
Ohhh, bit surprised I missed that one
And sorta kinda, but it's not that bad and we're not continuing on the topic, so you're fine
meager plover
yo
quick question
did this server ever get raided
by idk some metro fanboys or sumsin
tired anvil
Not really fanboys, but there's been people trying to do it in the past
hidden gyro
no date but there is nowhere to look on the internet at sellers and nothing 🙂
meager plover
no date but there is nowhere to look on the internet at sellers and nothing 🙂
This is in regard to...
tired anvil
Your best source of information would be this server or the official sources at the moment
meager plover
Not really fanboys, but there's been people trying to do it in the past
But what did they do? Post pron or?
Just be very toxic?
tired anvil
Some tried posting porn, some have tried massive pings, some just do n word and stuff
Mostly basic stuff
meager plover
Oh...
that's kinda dissapointing
It's in the way like:
"If you raid, make it a good one."
tired anvil
They always got dealt with extremely fast, so it never got far
meager plover
They always got dealt with extremely fast, so it never got far
"Stupid wannabe bandits were easily dealt with by the military and other armed groups."
Like the Renegades
tired anvil
meager plover
<:smile_degtyarev:598839640476352525>
Is there any real big lore on Renegades anyway? Or are they just "broke off from Yoga because they didn't like him"?
tired anvil
@pseudo rivet could explain it better than me
Short version would be: Bandits rob, Renegades murder without any reasoning
pseudo rivet
Basically what Gaj said
meager plover
And they call Freedom anarchists...
pseudo rivet
Although, they don't always murder
For example, Forester was mugged by Renegades, but he's still alive
meager plover
Bruh if they murdered Forester
pseudo rivet
Bandits basically tax other Stalkers
pseudo rivet
When there's a new gold rush in the Zone, all Bandits will pack up their gear and go to the area where the gold rush is. The Garbage and the North are both examples of this
meager plover
@pseudo rivet You're like the "Loremeister" of the server, right?
magic reef
pseudo rivet
Yeah, I study the lore of Stalker
meager plover
Do you get paid for it?
meager plover
You should, if you aren't.
pseudo rivet
Yes, whenever somebody asks me a question, I'll answer them and ask for one furry picture in my DMs
But nah, I'm just a dude who knows a bit about the lore of STALKER
meager plover
When there's a new gold rush in the Zone, all Bandits will pack up their gear an...
That's why I love 'em. They're very oppurtunistic and are sometimes a lot friendlier with eachother than most other factions.
pseudo rivet
The only ones asking questions are normal members
tired anvil
Iirc there were supposed to be 2 bandit groups in SoC
One of which got turned into the Renegades in CS
They were supposed to be enemies in SoC though
pseudo rivet
That's why I love 'em. They're very oppurtunistic and are sometimes a lot friend...
Well, before the Bandits came to the Garbage, the Diggers would kill each other to get other man's trash
Then the Bandits showed up, taxed everyone in the area for protection and, well, the Diggers aren't fighting each other anymore
pseudo rivet
Most aren't happy about it, but some Diggers appreciate their protection