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You could've made the Freedom snipers kill them, which would also give you free gear way easier and faster
Problem is they wandered into the electro anomalies
There's always the option of killing them
It won't damage your reputation with Duty, seen how they've disobeyed orders
No no they literally wandered into the anomalies and died
Cool
Trying to get near enough to loot them, thabks for the info thoigh
thing is
SOC is such slavic jank that even killing skull's squad leads to duty being hostile to you anyway
because they're technically considered duty members
Yeah
That happened in My playthroughs
Not a problem tho seeing how satisfying wrecking Rostok is 
are you guys sure? it never happened in my playthroughs
happened to me
used to wreck rostok all the time but then it became way too annoying to deal with bartender
man if bartender was in a loner-only place it would be much better
otherwise it kinda forces you to not go against duty, while going against freedom pretty much has no consequence aside from maybe having to get rid of the people at the barrier
Anybody know what song that's in the latest teaser?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu5mCXFHI0E
@brisk swan Сплин - Линия жизни
It doesn't really sound like that.
I'll check.
Attention! You are approaching the secured perimeter of a ecological disaster's Zone! Illicit crossing of the perimeter is a criminal act!
i love it, better shjort than more than 5 min
u have to see yourself what there is to find
Do you have a link for the official guitar version? When I search it like that I get bunch of amateur hour videos from randos.
https://youtu.be/aUmG6A4akJQ - Original
https://youtu.be/s3NDDUlGWVA - Karaoke
https://youtu.be/36JISnzPvY0 - on the guitar
Thank you, stalker.
Here's a sausage for your inventory
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/stalker/images/f/f1/DietSausageCS01.jpg
watched the trailer frame-by-frame
not too much to see aside from a humanoid shadow on a wall during the pda part
Today is the day when Zakhar Bocharov was born. Let's celebrate it and tell him some kind words.
Because of him we have the render of Батон and the new emoji of him -
https://vk.com/caxap_91

Hey I've forgotten- will Stalker 2 be survival based, or story, campaign type
NDA.
Open-world survival game with a story of the character named Скиф (en. Skiff, Scythe)
Slythian
Guadañero
with mods Stalker 2 can be whatever honestly
with as dedicated as the OG stalker scene is i wouldnt be shocked if they jump on 2 early
What do you think who will be the new protagonist
Skiff. A loner
Isn't it Skif?
Skif
Like someone with a disability tried to say Skiff
skeef
Skif.
In Russian it's Скиф
does it mean anything?
Dunno about Skif/Skiff/Skeef
That's a weird stock tbh
Skif can be related to Skiff
Which is that weird thing
Uhh
It's got wrappings around the stock
Skiff is a light rowing boat for one person apparently
Thank you Star Wars from warping my perception of the english language again
Yup
Skifs (Скифы) is some ethnicity (Scythes). Also could be a boat or some weapon.
thanks.
Modern postapo is doing everything in retard talk
So it might have been Skiff anyways
I just hope that it will have at least some of sci-fi elements
And not just black and browns with rain
Metro and Misery come to mind
we could get a more chaotic zone in this one.
Not really Metro
Metro had some colours
S2 is just black and different shades of crap
Smeared all over the screen
Maybe the newer ones do, but I never really saw color in 2033
Just... Compare Anomaly to Metro 2033
Anomaly is more colorful
I know that 2033 doesn't have that much colour but compared to Anomaly it's a hecking pride parade
everytime i see the room with the PDA, i get blood moon flashbacks from breath of the wild. 
Sell weapons
Yes but simple aks are like just 3k
Good thing there's plenty of them
Quests are also a thing
Well, i should use companion + car and fill them with guns?
Most of the good guns are either from quests or caches
i guess that depends on the weather. every shot from the first trailer has been foggy, and lighting has a huge role in colour.
maybe we will get some colours when there's more sunshine.
X on there being any
Yes, human eye can't see colors properly when it's dark
Eh, that one is overrated
i know, basic stuff right? 
It's not like my vision suddenly turns to grey
so you're expecting a grey sort of wasteland crimson?
Let's turn up that contrast to 11 and go with it
that would be dissapointing for me too.
I was referring to Kenzy's "Human eyes can't see colors properly in the dark" thing
But I do think it'll be dark and oppressive
I just want a damned exclusion zone, but with funny air
Human eye sees better when colors are green than in other colors, that's why x ray is green.... I remember when I used to play Rust, at the night we used to change the hue of the monitor to green, and was an amazing trick
X on there being any clear days
Yup
yea yea.
Which I actually really liked about the Zone
but would you like that-
I mean
interesting.
It lets you know that there's still a normal world around the Zone, y'know?
It's not Fallout
I can hear the constant moans of uhh... you exactly know what coming from the west
"Dood, it's so dark and moody and sad. I can feel like in slavistan now"
that's one of the things that stood out for me as a kid, that compared to fallout in stalker there was green fiolage and sunny moments. 
I've only played vanilla soc, ogse, and now ogsr, and then I want to try anomaly... Some day ill play cs or cop
Which is bruh
i know it's an retarded comparison, but it's what worked for me.
Slavistan
I mean
But yeah, I loved the clear days in STALKER
Compared to FPSes in general, Stalker has a lot of colours
Phlog is cringe, this guy's name is stating facts
but both are radiated hell-holes, and i discovered them at about the same time.
Yes
And I like that in some places it looks like soviet technicolor
Fallout still has less radiation than STALKER
Same used in Tarkovsky's stalker
And many other eastern european movies from that time
Might be because of how many years have passed since the Great War, but it still feels off
I thought it was strelok return 3
well i mean, fallout universe...
but we got an interesting skiff name who sounds like peanut butter
i do not know how long it takes for radiation to fade away after a nuclear explosion...
Depends what payload you're using
Well, the Great War included more than just one nuke
yes.
depends lol
yes, that too.
But after 200 years the nuclear fallout would be the last thing of your concern
gsc just put ign trailer on premiere and cut it in like 20 seconds
i actually forgot where i was gonna go with this...
Fallout and STALKER radiation difference
oh yeah,

but somehow radiation still plays a big role in fallout, even after ~200 years.
I wouldn't say so
To be fair, there's still plenty of radiation in Fallout, but humans have adapted to them
Technically, an Enclave soldier or Vault Dweller would have a terrible time above ground, yet that isn't the case
Yeah
Mitchell's wife does, but yeah

pokes fire with ak 74 stock
Also, somehow FEV got combined with the other species or something?
Never knew how that changed anything
eats 
I mean
I am more concerned about the structure of FEV
And I'm still not sure how exactly does it transmit
It's a virus, right?
it's the name, yeah
Forced Evolutionary Virus
Yeah...
Oh
Great
So people who say FEV virus are uhh... Special
It's like saying tfw when
But going back
i mean, vats?
I think so
Yeah
||green goo stuff, dipping of people||
Those vats contain FEV
I can fill a bathtub with water
Yet it doesn't make it transmittable
Unless you drink it ofc, but that's another story
Still, how does FEV work
Just...
Ugh
hmm, yea.
I'm sure that FEV is based on some real science facts and information, but if you go deeper into that it's nonsense
But yeah, I don't know a lot about FEV
I do know that's how the Super Mutants at the Capital Wasteland got created, though
it's just slime that infects people. 
They steal Wastelanders and turn them into Super Mutants, in a way trying to survive despite them being sterile
Which I think is pretty neat
That's how most likely anything in fallout mutated instead of mutating into a giant pile of tumours
radiation plays a huge role in the mutation results.
Well, some mutants were genetically created
Like Nightstalkers and Cazadors
Super Mutants were created with FEV
Same with Centaurs
And of course Nightkin
Deathclaws too
But I don't know about the rest
And I mean
well, i was more talking about radiation-FEV relationship.
There's a difference between engineered and mutated
Imo everything in fallout is mutated
Yeah, Deathclaws were also created by humans
FEV does mutate a lot
Well, except vaults and stuff
or it did
FO1||that's why the master was looking for fresh, non radiated humans when making his army of muties. wastelanders get brain damaged when disposed to FEV||
Molerats were also made by humans
CODENAME: CLOACINA
Development Report
Development of the Mutant Undermining Lifeform continues apace, and our chief bio-engineers are certain that they will be able to perfect these living weapons in time for deployment into Red China.
Once covertly released into an enemy's environment, their aggressive qualities, dangerous hunger, and pervasive breeding should severely undermine the infrastructure of the location in short order, softening the target for ground invasion. At this point, the genetic kill-switch can be activated, allowing for easy reclamation -- not including a significant, one-time clean up effort.
Current MUL development primarily uses genetic stock of rodents, particularly the common sewer rat, and progress has been significant. FEV testing has been rejected, however, as the results are sterile.
As some developer said, FEV is just a thing, which you can be used to explain all weirdness of the Fallout like mutants and etc. They wanted to use Radiation instead. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to research it, it's just a MacGuffin. 
i remember it was explained to a degree, someone replay vault 87 and read every line of text real quick
Here you go
Although, this is a different strain of FEV
Super Mutants are also more yellow-ish, which is cool as heck
So, the reason why Vault 87's entrance is so radioactive is because it got a direct hit from a nuke
Nevermind, that was the cut-content section
Still, you can consider it being true if you want
i'm gonna consider suicide stalkers being completely canon
Interesting convo I stumble upon. Why's that?
Somehow organically originated from a rant about S2
I was talking about the difference between STALKER and Fallout radiation, which let to us talking about Fallout mutations
if you asked about what i said, bc a folklore story tells about a stalker who wired explosives to his vest, so if anyone tried to take it it would blow up
But Gajunas is likely talking about suicide Stalkers
Yep, suicide Stalkers
@grand pendant
Suggest it to GSC 
Suicide Stalkers? Canonv
Oh brother
"overused"
We can say it about every celebration, btw
Almost, but yes
CoP has two stalkers that commited suicide... Scadovsk medic Tremor after some questline and Tachenko before the events of the game
At least two stalker kill themselves in the stalker builds - one after going through Brain Scorcher with his comrades (Рябой) and the second one was a random stalker on Cordon. He found an artefact but he was somehow hit by the Psi Anomaly, Controller or Brain Scorher
And not a single stalker kills himself in CS 🤔
Stetsenko too
Oh wait. In CoP one of the Tachenko's soldier killed himself too after killing 2 of his comrades.
So three suicides in CoP
@pseudo rivet it's gonna be the school btw
Retarded
Looking at some comparisons from CoP. Seems too possible for it not to be
Some people call it a hospital 
Are you talking about this?
At least, I don't remember a wall there
I can just send you in some screenies that one dude took
Have you thought that it's an absolutely different building of Pripyat?
they have an ABC-book on the floor there
CoP developers have created only one microdistrict of the city
I assume Crimson means no staicrase here
Interesting
Others say this makes it more legit
It's a hard topic when in proud Eastern Europe all the schools, canteens, kindergartens, palaces of culture etc look identical in design
It's where you have to defend ex-Duty member Zulu's ass?
But the outside is different in S2
Yeah nah, if that's the place, they changed it
more depth?
Yep
if tha's the case we're talking about one the most immersive games ever
Judging by the design of the building, it makes sense for a stairway there
Also. Looks like the whole wall of school was destroyed - in the teaser there's only one hole
And it's not impossible that they wanted to save time so they slapped a wall and didn't add the staircase detail
Because that part at the staircase has both pillars and not a direct wall to the right
I'd say it rather looks like a lower floor with some roof left
If it's the 2nd floor, then there's the problem of the third room being "caved in"
But as we can see in the trailer, it's not that high
So yeah, it's either not that building, or they changed the area
Mind going over here in CoP?
and who knows how much the building has changed over the years..assuming many years have passed
I forgot what's actually to the right when going forward
it clearly isn't the same place, and if it is, they just changed the hell out of it for no reason. No much discussion to this
Thanks
Btw. Check the doors behind. There should be two of them like in the teaser
I'll post them in #📸┃screens_and_videos
Why not here?
Alright, here it is
Wonderful
'grats
As you can see, there's a hallway over there
Damn its basically that place
Lacking a pillar
Welp, guess it's 50/50 on a new building or a retcon
Hoping for the former
Actually, now I'm looking at it, there is a hallway there
Replaced by the light. Though I'm not willing to guess that they were too lazy back then to do that
Skif entering through a door seems weird, though
And pillars were a normal thing
Y’all think stalker 2 is gonna merge all the maps like anomaly or make a brand new massive map?
Or maybe merge them all and add stuff. I imagine it’ll probably be that tbh
Seamless open world is all I'm saying
seamless open world with some old locations and prolly new ones
Also when they say biggest open world to date
Seanless open world
They mean in stalker or every game ever??
one of the biggest open worlds to date
They say one of the biggest
Ambitious
They were saying the same during CS development
I'm not disappointed with CS
I'm not either.
It seems weird. Its an in-engine teaser. Nothing final. They may even change the whole scene including the PDA.
At this point I think the game is in pre-alpha
X
i would remove the gameplay part
Considering they released 2 in-engine trailers
They also had an in-engine render over a year ago
I doubt it's in alpha phase, definitely past that
Nice Батон
Over 2 and a half years since announcement of development + unknown amount of time or work before it
if s2 doesn't have bread eating animations i'm refunding

I just wanna see new Sidorovich and Beard
Bold of you to assume that they aren't dead
sid's grave
:(
It's almost 2021 and they haven't added render of Kielbasa yet.
Smh they said 2020 is going to be a big year but only gave us this 
Waiting for the release date before the year ends
Well. It's enough for me.
Yea agreed. Save the goods for 2021
Not a lot, but at least we have it
Let this god forbidden year end already
Just saying it doesn't make sense
Has a knob like a radio
What I find interesting is the no signal message in it
Guess Imma loose signal in Crimson's cave idea
Stuck in tunnels for 3h 
B-b-b-ut this i-i-i-is the Pip-Boy 3000, which is b-better than the Pip-Boy 2000!
Tbh I like the new PDA
9th generation ipad be like
Lmao
seems too big
I find it kinda strange, but the more games become technological, the less they're developed properly, and the less they look playable.
Nintendo Switch PDA
I don't see how that's strange
Tons of promised features + more work + lack of funds + less done work + dumb advertising + more stress = big mess
Aka Cyberpunk
Doesn't it mean that the game industry is degrading again?
Honestly, the green and yellow light on the PDA looks too bright
Plus, it's shaped like a star
Like it was way back in previous century?
The in-engine teasers or the actual Skif concept?
The door
GSC door?
wdym skif concept?
You guys see things I don't cause of the goddamn monitor anyway
Hello
hello
Nevermind. I put it wrong.
Concept of "New Game - New Character" works. So I was right.
sure, tauruso

yikes
If you're judging the overall concept based on a render...
This will look nothing like in the final game
Yikes Moment, man
we never know.
Anyway. Seems that Skif is also a popular character of many mods and books (where he mostly plays the role of the merc).
Btw, Скифы died thousands years ago and they were popular for being good archers "skuda (bow) - ta". Maybe it says anything.
it's in tarkov too
Remember Slyth?
idm that, common nicknames are cool. Boutta get my man Tuna, Raven, Screw, Skull
🤔
also that upgrade
I mean metro is one of the most detailed games of all time, with MW and a few others as rivals. This has the feeling of being one of the most demanding, detailed games. And I like that.
Why even mentioning Call of Crab in this server I can't....
Kek

if so i wish they had a para-FAL
Inb4 Skif is Scar 
Where his Vintar BC at?
is there a gameplay teaser without the ign logo?
Probably GSC's own channel

Gamersyde maybe
Full 1080p if they uploaded already
did you just assume their gender
Scar hella alpha male, yo

Happy New year to everybody. 🎆
Holy moly the trailer looks good, can’t wait to preorder it
🎆
defo dont preorder
if its on steam ill preorder it day 1 
im super hype too but... not enough for pre order
cyberpunk was doomed to "fail" because of the huge hype and rushes.
carl, my son, you have 70 dollars. No you must choose:
s2
sex
i think it was pretty obvious that people were gonna get dissapointed.
and you see, S2 and CP77 are games of different scopes too.
as long as gsc dont promise things they cant do, it's gonna be good
i only hope that the A-life makes a return
it will
yep
A-Life will be back
bruh imagine if the main character isn't named skif 
refund.
kill skif

S trelo K 's I ndividual F reedom npc
best part of S:OL is that is so different from stalker that they could just make it 
Build from Stason, that's what's really cool
Do you play it?
-7 documents which different factions would like their hands on. makes for great conflict.
i doubt stason has anything to do with even the oblivion lost solyanka mashup

just, hell yeah...
it's coc but some stuff taken from MLR, pretty crasy and meh
I always liked this strange atmosphere of unity with the unknown in the stalker
Words can't describe it
apparently mlr dev got out off stalker modding bc stason took some of his work and everyone think is original from stason. but i can't confirm that
Those who lived in the CIS will unfortunately experience a wider range of emotions
it certainly is special, the atmosphere.
Just because the place in which we live in most cases looks like locations from the game
Where it beats you?
I have an abandoned factory near my village. My friend and I called him Jupiter
When we were children we were often there and once
What if I don't live in CIS but the location looks the same to my area? 
Remember, not all former Soviet lands became CIS
As usual, we climbed over the fence, climbed into the workshop, then climbed onto the roof
We decided to have a snack
And then I heard the dogs
where it beats me? i didn't catch your phrase here...
It turned out that the plant was not completely abandoned and was guarded.
what makes it special for me?
We were quickly caught and forced to gut our backpacks
what makes you prefer it over retail
right,
Sorry. You wrote about OL being on the right path from the get god. I asked if you meant when the game was supposed to beat itself before you if you were too slow and stuff
They found nothing except vodka and bacon
And they let us go, we never appeared there
well i really like the concept. it has the same feel like the water chip in fallout 1, where you have a well done time limit. it creates ingame tension, where factions would go into conflict to obtain secret zone documents.
i also love the scrapped locations.
there are also a bunch of neat ideas sprinkled here and there.
This was a yes or no question
so it's a yes.
my problem with timed games comes with the limitation of exploration, but if the time isn't real or absurdly large like fallout 1 it's kinda homo
policemen?
I spent hours looking around at the Swamps 
well, that can always be adjusted by the developers.
72 hours in cordon gang
fallout 1 does it right, cause 100 days are enough to explore most of the wasteland.
that's the problem, unless you usually sleep through your playthroughs, it won't fail. So that limitation is an illusion
they could achieve that in stalker too, without doubt.
euyyy
also the "ayo get your son fast!!!" or "find your father quickly!!!" but take it easy and help settlements
well not really.
i hate when games don't have real consequences.
in fallout 1, it's game over.
So this is why you love Dark Souls so much
wow so excited for stalker 20
but if let's say duty got a piece of the important documents, that would make for a great conflict.
maybe the only way would be to get them by force?
was stalker 2 good, froggy?
but that's how i see it.
i just don't think open world, survival rpg games work well with time limits on the main quest that won't let you play the game after you beat such quest
even in fallout 1, time only advanced when moving between locations, so it was more of a travel limit
but it can done be right! it can be done really poorly, but man, if such mechanic is done right then it really shines! 
and it's probably really difficult to execute, i get that.
yeah it can, at the cost of not letting you complete everything. Like Pathologic 2, making you prioritize which quests will you take
oh yeah.
well,
i guess i'm just going on about my perfect vision of stalker. which was the oblivion lost builds and the different concepts gsc had in mind.
i see
but i'm done.
also saw something about time limits?
yeah, secret zone documents were a sort of mcguffin in the early development.
npc's could obtain those and beat the game before you.
a time limit, if you will. creates nice tention.
ye im not exactly fond of this
but maybe something like there was in call of pripyat in jupiter
when you got one set of documents mercs showed up and tried to stop you
or even more accuratly in zaton when you get that wierd artifact
Happy new year from aussies
happy new year comrade
can we get a smiling skif in 'ere
nice
NIce
Foster???
Hello
hello
hello
how
si
What's up?
Very nice
Hello
i wonder what GPU we need for stalker 2
with the current turbulence on hardware market it will be quite interesting what impact stalker will have
nice, my computer is going to burn
same
my crappy laptop wont be able to handle the game prolly
lets hope for good optimization
b
I have change my config for stalker 2
Now i have a phenon x4 955 oc at 4.5ghz (with a coler master hyper 212)
And a 660 twin frozr
On a mini itx XD
Gonna have to get two industrial fans to handle the heat my gpu is going to emit
@bleak zinc Unreal is one of the most used engines, you can have low level developers and they can still pull off a great game thanks to the internet and tons of help on forums and other portals to get help
I had in mind to build a new rig tho in oct. with new gpu and 5000 ryzen - no chance, paperlaunch after paperlaunch plus work-from-home poop made a mess out of that plan and some last-last gen GPUs like 1060, 1070, 1660ti etc. are spiking over their release price again which is totally absurd. same for even Ryzen 3000 and PSUs
ole reliable 1650 super
had my build planned to be a 2000€ build with 5900x, 6900XT, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz and 2 sabrent rocket 4.0 - now thats worth more like 3200-3800€ depending where u try to get scammed
happy new year
now fork over the master role chump
i have a RX 580 with 8gb of vram, and a 9th generation i5
i hope it runs
because im not in the condition for upgrading my rig
u should be fine, not on max but good - I have a laptop tho with i5 8250U and a hybrid Radeon520 which depenign on driber is enabled/hybrid/dedicated or a R5 M330... its a total mess that HP sold
I struggle with Anomaly on DX8 with grass on zero, shadow to lowest and detail reduced already...
The greatest anomaly we have come across, 2020
@finite dragon Huh?
Wouldn't say greatest, just as bad as the Brain Scorcher
rock just vanished
now mcculkin is the boi that responds the most
He responds, yes
Rock was here both yesterday and today 
I love these emojis

They're great

uh did someone notice that at the end of the teaser the black screen it's beccause a burer throw a chair at the character ?
You know, having a chair thrown at your face violently will likely knock you out
I really hope Stalker 2 will live up to at least the fun of previous games.
And that it's moddable.
chair toss
Yep, most noticed
Can even see the Burer
Chair goes BRRRRRRRR
uh ok so I'm late
just saw again the video
can't see him nowhere
it's in the red
behind the chair
make HQ at 0.25 and you'll notice his beautiful face
Woo
Re
Idk if I agree
happy new year stalkers, and rip to everyone we lost in 2020 😦
let's hope there are more artifacts to find in 2021
woo
can i run Stalker Anomaly? GT 730 DDR3, AMD Phenom 2 .. Im not looking for your opinion "oh what a trash old pc" jeez idc it can run most stuff and the old stalker games the best
yes i think so, i used to run it on a really bad pc
that might have sounded a bit rude.. im sorry
but you should ask that to anomaly discord, they have updated the game since then
I just saw the short gameplay vid, damn that looks nice.
yep
and the atmosphere.. The STALKER series all games in general have this almost comfy atmosphere. And it hits me even more because im in a country so close to ukraine.. Wow
STALKER is awesome
Yeah hope the game turns out good and not half done glitchy politically centered game trying to appeal to everything in existence for sales. Hope for the best!
Boys I want to see the models for the factions so badly
The day I see them drop a monolith npc pic is the day I nut eternally
so does the new fb post mean the game will release in 2021 or what?
they're being cryptic
yes'nt
they probably don't want to say it outright in case smth goes wrong, but everything indicates 2021
yeah they said ''we are entering the center of the zone next year''
but you're probably right, they're being cautious because they don't know themselves
i'm sure some dev said they do have a date, but won't release in case they need to delay it
well, in ukraine its 2020
not a dev but a pr guy
Yeah? Which would mean 2021
that's what I'm saying
but before writing that, they indicated that they have a long way to go and they wrote ''we've just entered the perimiter'' so I'm confused
that maybe is because they dont want to insinuate nothing
yeah, also if they don't know if they can pull off a 2021 release, that means it's gonna release late 2021 at the earliest
well, it will probably get modded so the game its better
but im confident that GSC will make a good stalker
yeah, mind that
hello
howdy
good wbu
possibly, but the teaser gives me high budget story driven vibes
I don't know
well, stalker has been always story driven
metro = story driven
stalker = gameplay driven
All I know is nobody better whine about dates being pushed back.
we'll see when it launches
We've seen what that does
I feel like a lot of people don't count the lore and stuff to the story
I personally don't
for example
almost everything that happens in metro is story...it's all scripted and cinematic
it's linear and the whole game tells a story
No swearing btw
Like a movie
of sorts
I forget
And I'd agree if the sidequests and stuff were like AC where it's just bring smth back
But when they genuinely add something, I don't quite agree
the lore is part of the story, the main quest is just the main plot
there0s no cutscenes and pre meditated events in stalker, only in minimal amounts
I prefer Stalker's story telling tbh
you gotta work your definition of story telling, bc if you think story is only told through cutscenes there's smth wrong
@tired anvil how do quests in SOC add anything to the story? They're literally just that: bring something back, kill this guy, rid area of mutants
It approaches more to live it rather than it being told to me
now for COP I'd agree but that advances the lore, not the plot of the game
Sandbox storytelling requires an inquisitive player who works for it. If you wait for it to come to you you'll have a bad time, that's the tradeoff.
Which i think is nice
Sid's sidequests explain how people organize trips to the Zone
the plot of the game is actually very minimal
I've run years of D&D hexcrawls with the same results.
Well, if you ignore quests in SoC you can completely miss the canon ending
^
Sakharov's sidequest explain the use of mutants parts outside the Zone as well
Barkeep's sidequestes explain marauders, mercs relations with bandits
Freedom's sidequests explain mutant breeding in WT
and much more
Its all in reading bro
but that's lore...I guess we have different definitions of story driven
lore is part of the story my man
What does define the story? The lore does
Lmao what
That said if that's not your deal it don't make you a bad person or whatever, it's a preference thing. Some people like having the story handed to them with just a few choice-input points.
if it encourages story like stalker, then yes
But yeah that wouldn't be stalker's style.
bc you missed story doesn't mean it isn't there
I like how this game kinda feels like the world happens around you
I didn't ''miss the story''
And your story is dependent on how much you go look into it
stalker is all about the setting and atmosphere...the last of us is all about the story etc
Yeah exactly
there's a difference between the two games
You are living it rather than being told it
oh really, can you explain how many times in total Strelok went to the CNPP? 

2
4
But yeah having GMed for both Sandbox and Interactive Railroad players I'd never dump on someone for liking one over the other, I just enjoy the box a lot more.
do you know when was the Zone created?
||April or June Gang?||
but that's just the lore
3, don't add Marked One's hard work to Strelok's bullcrap 
||The C-Consciousness program precedes the Chernobyl explosion, doesn't it?||
No
Wasnt it the other way
Chernobyl Disaster happened first
it's shown in cutscenes, literally shown in-gameplay being part of two quests too
Psure its after
Ohhh
Yeah
I thought the program caused the initial blast, maybe I got that mixed up
The explosion made a good cover-up for the scientists to experiment all sorts of stuff there, plus they could still use the CNPP for energy
Ok yeah that makes sense
ayo
No way
Bruh
new year's miracle 
Local gopnik ruins everything
No, that's SoC
lmao
Kek
which is a better modification for a shotgun flatness or recoil
flatness
Flatgun
Well, flatness would allow your shotgun to shoot farther, allowing your shotgun to become quite devastating, but recoil could become more useful in close-quarters
So, it's up to you
i only wanted to know because i just stripped a shotgun off of a fallen zombied stalker and i was trying to decide on what i should choose for modifications
i would say reducing recoil in a shotgun is not gonna help at all, honestly
Which shotgun are you upgrading?
a chaser 13
then again, i always use the ToS 34 lmao
yikes, horrible shotgun
you def need flatness
but i do have a sawed off but its fully modified
I'd go for an SPSA-14 or an Eliminator
Although, the sawed-off shotgun can definitely be pretty strong if you have a lot of stamina
Sincerely sorry if I jumped into the middle of any ongoing conversations but just a few words.
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Happy new year stalkers
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dido on the new part
to you as well
well i guess its hunting time to look for an eliminator or SPSA-14
for now you can honestly do better with a hunting rifle
or shotgun, whatever you're playing 
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Heya
Kolbasa
to be honest what ever has enough stopping power
An RPG-7u, honestly
then the hunting rifle
But for the best efficiency in combat, I'd go for the Eliminator
what sort of ammo does the hunting rifle take
Although, be careful about it's RoF, because you'll go through ammo pretty fast with it. Reloading also takes a while
every shotgun uses the same ammo
oh so the hunting rifle is just a shotgun? ok then i have a few rounds of 12x70
what are you playing btw? i assume at least CS or CoP
CoP
CoP
Fair enough
Second best accuracy, highest mag size, high RoF
plus few stalkers are giving me trouble so a scoped weapon is what i need considering i cant get close enough without being turned into swiss cheese
it's a shotgun with high spread so the scope is meh
i don't trust some of zone stalkers
yeah that is a pretty good rule to live by when traveling around in the zone
ok now that is scary if mercs and bandits can disguise as loners
screw everything that can already kill you that is worse ugh especially if it were in SoC where bandits and mercs dont care and will just shoot on sight
At least you can shoot them as you like. In CS you have to play nice with the damned bandits if you want to fully upgrade your SEVA
i think an automatic firing mode for chaser 13 is pointless don't ya think considering its bad already
At least Chaser is durable enough compared to the Western guns
yeah you have a point
with my armor i really don't have to worry considering i have a decently upgraded exo well enough to get me by most situations
wait
is it tho
it is a western shotgun but i don't believe its a winchester model though
IMFDB said it's an Maverick 88
it is in the internal files
wpn_wincheaster1300
maverick is still western anyway
are you sure you don't mean a different shotgun chaser 13 is closer to a maverick than a winchester1300
then again internal files don't lie most of the time >->
it definitely isn't a winchester1300, but that's it's name
maverick 88 is indeed the closest
yeah because i don't think there ever was a winchester model that was a pump action like the chaser 13 or there was tbh i forget most of the time
nvm fact checked XD i hate having a bad memory -_-
Chaser 13
(Mossberg 88/Winchester 1300) wiki says its a mossberg 88 from what i know
the ingame code is just wacky i guess
or it was poor translation either way
this went offtop real fast anyways guess im going for an eliminator correct?
Absolutely
Even though it has a lower damage offset and a shorter range, it will pretty much carry you through the game too
Until you get your hands on Strelok's SIG
is that better or like the holy grail of weapons in CoP
What better?
a TRs-301 is better honestly
soooooooo that then?
although the normal SGI-5k is based
just give me a suggestion on a weapon i should hunt for and i will search the entire game for it possibly dying a few times in the progress but hey such life is the zone am i right
SGI-5k or TRs-301 are my recommendatios
ight this is where it gets real hardbass on bottle of vodka on table knuckles cracked ak cocked exo on its huntin time i got enough ammo to kill half of the renegade and bandit population here in the zone not enough fire power tho but i can make this work
You can do that with 9x18 and 9x19 only
You know what they say, if firepower doesn't work...
then MORE firepower
ah the words of a true stalker
pfft just go
and knife everyone
And that's how I won the Arena too
i just forget to use it sometimes then sometimes i do use it and i dominate every living soul in the area XD until someone kills me yeah sometimes im just not sneeki enough
More like, thank god gsc won't waste time trying to pander to console players and we'll have an aids-free modding scene
Whenever I think of modded games I always remember how bringing mods to consoles ruined communities like the Skyrim one
Basically the consoles ruined and changed many game's development back then but I'll keep this for off topic
"lmao just check the ps4/xbox box"
we should take this to off topic unless we want mods stepping in then be my guest continue here XD
Having offtopic isn't an issue unless it turns into a full blown disruptive argument
true guess the main rule of thumb is dont go overkill with the offtopic on other channels
Ehem so anyone has any idea for the Exo to spawn in CS SRP. Kinda want that Duty's shiny Tunder but I don't want to kill em
The last time I got it through Faction Wars but it in SRP-less so...
Thats something I will try to ask devs, do you have to do something specific to get stuff to spawn into npcs inventories
Like killing an npc before it throws a grenade
Making it lootable
no, think that's just random
Oh just waiting a bit until Duty deploy their Exo
well i mean you could always just get a spawn menu i think there is one for each game unless you are trying to stay original then i got nothing that can help tbh
you can't take their suits btw
just work for it and buy it
remember, cheating is gay
Suits are never lootable unless you're playing mods that allows you to do it
What about shooting guns in npcs hands to make them unusable
And risk getting Duty to go after my head? No thanks
duty is just another pest in my opinion
based and agreed
All factions are a pest
Maybe except Loners
I wonder if loners will end up like mercs in the new game
As in, instead of being one big "faction" it's a bunch of independant groups
Like it was meant to be
loners are just bandits with unwritten codes
and they are independant groups
you can't think Vampire's group is tied to others
Point taken I guess
I just find hard all loners being in okish terms with sid and barman being the biggest scammers in the whole game
800RU for Gauss, god I was an idiot back then
ah yes sid and barman
i hate the both of them
and when ever i see them i yell at my monitor just to clarify it yes im strange that way
some loners tried to screw Sid by making themselves look like his "sales representatives" and scamming other loners
I mean, sid screws over everyone 24/7 without fail
Smartass group tried to takeover Sid's business
Hard to say he didn't had it coming
RIP those loners
True
Sid's a baller, gotta respect the grind
you never really hear of him lore-wise scamming people anyway, maybe you're joking and i am missing smth 
Buying artifacts at 500 rubles while selling canned food for 2000 ru is hardly a grind just saying
tbh sid is a grease ball but yeah gotta respect him
In fact I wonder where all that money goes considering hes a big merchant
if it wasn't for him stalkers would've been cracked down long ago
at least southern guys
belarussian fellas would still thrive ig
true
It's a symbiotic relationship with sid being mostly on the abusive side
Loners are basically abused wives
They know it but can't leave the rookie village (house)
not to mention the military border/checkpoint right next to the loner camp in cordon
though the military seem to keep to them selves
that's why they wouod've been cracked down, Sid bribed them to not shoot stalkers
how sid never leaves his bunker
and apparently only Sid can do that, because Valerian tried to do it and failed miserably, causing a war with the military
sid has skills i'll give him that
Well, that's because Khaletskiy sold out the Free Stalkers to the Bandits, so that's why it all started
and insane prices on bad equipment >_>
I feel sad afrer seeing how the camp turned out to be in SoC you know
i oversimplified it but clearly relations weren't going well, stalkers couldn't keep up with the money
Yet people around Jupiter complain that local traders are much worse than Sidorovich
So much for Loner's great future ahead
My bet is that sid is an undercover military officer or something
specially bc that dumbass Shilov just bought stuff from Sid and sold it to stalkers, even though Sid is like 1km away
that's no way to keep a business lmao
Yeah
how is such things possible comrade crimson when barkeep and sidorovich are the worst traders in the zone XD as far as cordon to duty base well the SoC duty base
Sid and Barman are the equivalent of Gandhi AI in civ games
They're introduced lore wise as "good" people
Well, here's the thing
But then the gandhi AI has a +5 in hostility function nuking the whole world
There's a goldrush around the parts of Zaton and Jupiter
they were intrduced as businessmen, both clearly state that
The way they scam the player is in no way businessmen-like though, sure you can scam people but in the long run you're gonna get stabbed



