#⭐┃nospoilers_general

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split mortar
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Asking bc duty keeps wandering into electro anomalies near the freedom base and im trying to get close enough to get their 9x39

pseudo rivet
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You could've made the Freedom snipers kill them, which would also give you free gear way easier and faster

split mortar
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Problem is they wandered into the electro anomalies

pseudo rivet
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There's always the option of killing them

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It won't damage your reputation with Duty, seen how they've disobeyed orders

split mortar
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No no they literally wandered into the anomalies and died

pseudo rivet
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Cool

split mortar
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Trying to get near enough to loot them, thabks for the info thoigh

finite dragon
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thing is

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SOC is such slavic jank that even killing skull's squad leads to duty being hostile to you anyway

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because they're technically considered duty members

hushed aurora
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Yeah

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That happened in My playthroughs

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Not a problem tho seeing how satisfying wrecking Rostok is smile_strelok

copper sky
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are you guys sure? it never happened in my playthroughs

shadow drift
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happened to me

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used to wreck rostok all the time but then it became way too annoying to deal with bartender

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man if bartender was in a loner-only place it would be much better

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otherwise it kinda forces you to not go against duty, while going against freedom pretty much has no consequence aside from maybe having to get rid of the people at the barrier

brisk swan
gusty trench
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@brisk swan Сплин - Линия жизни

brisk swan
gusty trench
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One second

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It is

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Guitar version

brisk swan
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I'll check.

finite dragon
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Attention! You are approaching the secured perimeter of a ecological disaster's Zone! Illicit crossing of the perimeter is a criminal act!

fervent junco
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i love it, better shjort than more than 5 min

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u have to see yourself what there is to find

brisk swan
# gusty trench Guitar version

Do you have a link for the official guitar version? When I search it like that I get bunch of amateur hour videos from randos.

brisk swan
shadow drift
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watched the trailer frame-by-frame
not too much to see aside from a humanoid shadow on a wall during the pda part

gusty trench
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Today is the day when Zakhar Bocharov was born. Let's celebrate it and tell him some kind words.
Because of him we have the render of Батон and the new emoji of him -
https://vk.com/caxap_91

weak shuttle
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Hey I've forgotten- will Stalker 2 be survival based, or story, campaign type

gusty trench
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NDA.
Open-world survival game with a story of the character named Скиф (en. Skiff, Scythe)

livid spindle
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scythiqn

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scythian

gusty trench
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Slythian

lyric sky
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Guadañero

pliant python
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with as dedicated as the OG stalker scene is i wouldnt be shocked if they jump on 2 early

quaint shard
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What do you think who will be the new protagonist

gusty trench
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Skiff. A loner

robust forge
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Isn't it Skif?

pseudo rivet
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Skif

robust forge
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Like someone with a disability tried to say Skiff

wicked current
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skeef

pseudo rivet
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Skif.

gusty trench
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In Russian it's Скиф

wicked current
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does it mean anything?

gusty trench
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Dunno about Skif/Skiff/Skeef

robust forge
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That's a weird stock tbh

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Skif can be related to Skiff

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Which is that weird thing

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Uhh

pseudo rivet
robust forge
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Skiff is a light rowing boat for one person apparently

pseudo rivet
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Well, his name is Skif

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Not Skiff

robust forge
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Thank you Star Wars from warping my perception of the english language again

pseudo rivet
robust forge
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Yup

gusty trench
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Skifs (Скифы) is some ethnicity (Scythes). Also could be a boat or some weapon.

robust forge
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Yup

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And you know

wicked current
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thanks.

robust forge
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Modern postapo is doing everything in retard talk

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So it might have been Skiff anyways

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I just hope that it will have at least some of sci-fi elements

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And not just black and browns with rain

pseudo rivet
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Too bad, look at the trailer and the teaser

robust forge
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Yeah

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They look like upscaled Anomaly

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And I hate it

pseudo rivet
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Metro and Misery come to mind

wicked current
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we could get a more chaotic zone in this one.

robust forge
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Not really Metro

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Metro had some colours

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S2 is just black and different shades of crap

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Smeared all over the screen

pseudo rivet
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Maybe the newer ones do, but I never really saw color in 2033

robust forge
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Just... Compare Anomaly to Metro 2033

pseudo rivet
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Anomaly is more colorful

robust forge
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I know that 2033 doesn't have that much colour but compared to Anomaly it's a hecking pride parade

wicked current
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everytime i see the room with the PDA, i get blood moon flashbacks from breath of the wild. smile_scar

lyric sky
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Heyy, how i can farm money in ogsr??

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I reached the bar yesterday

pseudo rivet
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Sell weapons

lyric sky
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Yes but simple aks are like just 3k

pseudo rivet
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Good thing there's plenty of them

robust forge
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Quests are also a thing

lyric sky
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Well, i should use companion + car and fill them with guns?

robust forge
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Most of the good guns are either from quests or caches

wicked current
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maybe we will get some colours when there's more sunshine.

pseudo rivet
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X on there being any

lyric sky
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Yes, human eye can't see colors properly when it's dark

pseudo rivet
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Eh, that one is overrated

wicked current
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i know, basic stuff right? ahh_nuu

pseudo rivet
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It's not like my vision suddenly turns to grey

robust forge
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I mean

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It is true

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I just fear that the whole game will be cloudy foggy and dark

wicked current
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so you're expecting a grey sort of wasteland crimson?

robust forge
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Let's turn up that contrast to 11 and go with it

wicked current
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that would be dissapointing for me too.

pseudo rivet
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I was referring to Kenzy's "Human eyes can't see colors properly in the dark" thing

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But I do think it'll be dark and oppressive

robust forge
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I just want a damned exclusion zone, but with funny air

lyric sky
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Human eye sees better when colors are green than in other colors, that's why x ray is green.... I remember when I used to play Rust, at the night we used to change the hue of the monitor to green, and was an amazing trick

wicked current
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no, nevermind.

pseudo rivet
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X on there being any clear days

robust forge
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Yup

wicked current
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yea yea.

pseudo rivet
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Which I actually really liked about the Zone

wicked current
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but would you like that-

robust forge
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I mean

wicked current
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interesting.

pseudo rivet
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It lets you know that there's still a normal world around the Zone, y'know?

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It's not Fallout

robust forge
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I can hear the constant moans of uhh... you exactly know what coming from the west

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"Dood, it's so dark and moody and sad. I can feel like in slavistan now"

wicked current
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that's one of the things that stood out for me as a kid, that compared to fallout in stalker there was green fiolage and sunny moments. smile_scar

lyric sky
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I've only played vanilla soc, ogse, and now ogsr, and then I want to try anomaly... Some day ill play cs or cop

pseudo rivet
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Which is bruh

wicked current
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i know it's an retarded comparison, but it's what worked for me.

lyric sky
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Slavistan

robust forge
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I mean

pseudo rivet
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But yeah, I loved the clear days in STALKER

robust forge
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Compared to FPSes in general, Stalker has a lot of colours

pseudo rivet
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Phlog is cringe, this guy's name is stating facts

wicked current
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but both are radiated hell-holes, and i discovered them at about the same time.

quaint shard
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Yes

robust forge
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And I like that in some places it looks like soviet technicolor

pseudo rivet
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Fallout still has less radiation than STALKER

robust forge
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Same used in Tarkovsky's stalker

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And many other eastern european movies from that time

forest ledge
pseudo rivet
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Might be because of how many years have passed since the Great War, but it still feels off

sullen dragon
pseudo rivet
wicked current
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well i mean, fallout universe...

sullen dragon
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but we got an interesting skiff name who sounds like peanut butter

pseudo rivet
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Skif

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Told ya

wicked current
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i do not know how long it takes for radiation to fade away after a nuclear explosion...

sullen dragon
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uh

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well crap

robust forge
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Depends what payload you're using

pseudo rivet
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Well, the Great War included more than just one nuke

wicked current
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yes.

wicked current
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yes, that too.

robust forge
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But after 200 years the nuclear fallout would be the last thing of your concern

grand pendant
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gsc just put ign trailer on premiere and cut it in like 20 seconds

pseudo rivet
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Honestly, the worst place so far is the Glowing Sea

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Yes

robust forge
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Yup

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Let's be honest, we will pay 60 bobux for Anomaly 2.0

wicked current
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i actually forgot where i was gonna go with this...

sullen dragon
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me

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i got some robuck

pseudo rivet
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Fallout and STALKER radiation difference

wicked current
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oh yeah,

gusty trench
wicked current
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but somehow radiation still plays a big role in fallout, even after ~200 years.

gusty trench
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I wouldn't say so

pseudo rivet
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To be fair, there's still plenty of radiation in Fallout, but humans have adapted to them

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Technically, an Enclave soldier or Vault Dweller would have a terrible time above ground, yet that isn't the case

quaint shard
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Yeah

grand pendant
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Mitchell's wife does, but yeah

pseudo rivet
sullen dragon
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pokes fire with ak 74 stock

pseudo rivet
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Also, somehow FEV got combined with the other species or something?

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Never knew how that changed anything

sullen dragon
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eats food_diet_sausage

robust forge
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I mean

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I am more concerned about the structure of FEV

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And I'm still not sure how exactly does it transmit

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It's a virus, right?

grand pendant
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it's the name, yeah

pseudo rivet
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Forced Evolutionary Virus

robust forge
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Yeah...

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Oh

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Great

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So people who say FEV virus are uhh... Special

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It's like saying tfw when

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But going back

wicked current
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i mean, vats?

robust forge
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Where's the capsid

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How does it exactly transmit

pseudo rivet
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Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System

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If I'm right

robust forge
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I think so

pseudo rivet
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Yeah

wicked current
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no, the virus vats.

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||mariposa mili base.||

robust forge
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Ah

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The vats as in the thingies

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Yeah

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But still

wicked current
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||green goo stuff, dipping of people||

pseudo rivet
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Those vats contain FEV

robust forge
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I can fill a bathtub with water

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Yet it doesn't make it transmittable

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Unless you drink it ofc, but that's another story

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Still, how does FEV work

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Just...

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Ugh

wicked current
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hmm, yea.

gusty trench
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I'm sure that FEV is based on some real science facts and information, but if you go deeper into that it's nonsense

robust forge
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Why is it a quadruple alpha-helyse

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Or helise

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Whatever

pseudo rivet
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But yeah, I don't know a lot about FEV

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I do know that's how the Super Mutants at the Capital Wasteland got created, though

wicked current
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it's just slime that infects people. smile_scar

pseudo rivet
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They steal Wastelanders and turn them into Super Mutants, in a way trying to survive despite them being sterile

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Which I think is pretty neat

robust forge
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That's how most likely anything in fallout mutated instead of mutating into a giant pile of tumours

wicked current
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radiation plays a huge role in the mutation results.

pseudo rivet
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Well, some mutants were genetically created

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Like Nightstalkers and Cazadors

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Super Mutants were created with FEV

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Same with Centaurs

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And of course Nightkin

robust forge
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Deathclaws too

pseudo rivet
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But I don't know about the rest

robust forge
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And I mean

wicked current
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well, i was more talking about radiation-FEV relationship.

robust forge
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There's a difference between engineered and mutated

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Imo everything in fallout is mutated

pseudo rivet
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Yeah, Deathclaws were also created by humans

grand pendant
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FEV does mutate a lot

robust forge
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Well, except vaults and stuff

grand pendant
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or it did

wicked current
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FO1||that's why the master was looking for fresh, non radiated humans when making his army of muties. wastelanders get brain damaged when disposed to FEV||

pseudo rivet
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Molerats were also made by humans

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CODENAME: CLOACINA
Development Report
Development of the Mutant Undermining Lifeform continues apace, and our chief bio-engineers are certain that they will be able to perfect these living weapons in time for deployment into Red China.
Once covertly released into an enemy's environment, their aggressive qualities, dangerous hunger, and pervasive breeding should severely undermine the infrastructure of the location in short order, softening the target for ground invasion. At this point, the genetic kill-switch can be activated, allowing for easy reclamation -- not including a significant, one-time clean up effort.
Current MUL development primarily uses genetic stock of rodents, particularly the common sewer rat, and progress has been significant. FEV testing has been rejected, however, as the results are sterile.
gusty trench
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As some developer said, FEV is just a thing, which you can be used to explain all weirdness of the Fallout like mutants and etc. They wanted to use Radiation instead. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to research it, it's just a MacGuffin. zak

wicked current
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^^^

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i don't think there's any science behind it no.

grand pendant
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i remember it was explained to a degree, someone replay vault 87 and read every line of text real quick

pseudo rivet
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Here you go

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Although, this is a different strain of FEV

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Super Mutants are also more yellow-ish, which is cool as heck

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So, the reason why Vault 87's entrance is so radioactive is because it got a direct hit from a nuke

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Nevermind, that was the cut-content section

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Still, you can consider it being true if you want

grand pendant
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i'm gonna consider suicide stalkers being completely canon

tired anvil
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Interesting convo I stumble upon. Why's that?

robust forge
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Somehow organically originated from a rant about S2

pseudo rivet
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I was talking about the difference between STALKER and Fallout radiation, which let to us talking about Fallout mutations

grand pendant
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if you asked about what i said, bc a folklore story tells about a stalker who wired explosives to his vest, so if anyone tried to take it it would blow up

pseudo rivet
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But Gajunas is likely talking about suicide Stalkers

tired anvil
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Yep, suicide Stalkers

pseudo rivet
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@grand pendant
Suggest it to GSC smile_strelok

gusty trench
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Suicide Stalkers? Canonvzak

tired anvil
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Also NY is coming up so merry merry

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Will say the overused nice words later

pseudo rivet
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Oh brother

gusty trench
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"overused"
We can say it about every celebration, btw

tired anvil
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Almost, but yes

gusty trench
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CoP has two stalkers that commited suicide... Scadovsk medic Tremor after some questline and Tachenko before the events of the game
At least two stalker kill themselves in the stalker builds - one after going through Brain Scorcher with his comrades (Рябой) and the second one was a random stalker on Cordon. He found an artefact but he was somehow hit by the Psi Anomaly, Controller or Brain Scorher

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And not a single stalker kills himself in CS 🤔

pseudo rivet
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Stetsenko too

gusty trench
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Oh wait. In CoP one of the Tachenko's soldier killed himself too after killing 2 of his comrades.

pseudo rivet
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So three suicides in CoP

tired anvil
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@pseudo rivet it's gonna be the school btw

pseudo rivet
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Retarded

tired anvil
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Looking at some comparisons from CoP. Seems too possible for it not to be

pseudo rivet
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The wall near the staircase

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It's not in CoP

gusty trench
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Some people call it a hospital zak

tired anvil
pseudo rivet
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At least, I don't remember a wall there

tired anvil
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I can just send you in some screenies that one dude took

gusty trench
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Have you thought that it's an absolutely different building of Pripyat?

tired anvil
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Some have

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I haven't thought much about it at all tbh

fossil quail
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they have an ABC-book on the floor there

gusty trench
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CoP developers have created only one microdistrict of the city

tired anvil
solid prism
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Interesting

tired anvil
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It's a hard topic when in proud Eastern Europe all the schools, canteens, kindergartens, palaces of culture etc look identical in design

gusty trench
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It's where you have to defend ex-Duty member Zulu's ass?

solid prism
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But the outside is different in S2

pseudo rivet
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Yeah nah, if that's the place, they changed it

solid prism
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more depth?

tired anvil
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Yep

solid prism
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if tha's the case we're talking about one the most immersive games ever

tired anvil
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Judging by the design of the building, it makes sense for a stairway there

gusty trench
tired anvil
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And it's not impossible that they wanted to save time so they slapped a wall and didn't add the staircase detail

pseudo rivet
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Because that part at the staircase has both pillars and not a direct wall to the right

tired anvil
pseudo rivet
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If it's the 2nd floor, then there's the problem of the third room being "caved in"

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But as we can see in the trailer, it's not that high

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So yeah, it's either not that building, or they changed the area

tired anvil
solid prism
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and who knows how much the building has changed over the years..assuming many years have passed

tired anvil
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I forgot what's actually to the right when going forward

grand pendant
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it clearly isn't the same place, and if it is, they just changed the hell out of it for no reason. No much discussion to this

pseudo rivet
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The room after this part?

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I'll make a screenshot

tired anvil
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Thanks

gusty trench
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Btw. Check the doors behind. There should be two of them like in the teaser

pseudo rivet
tired anvil
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Why not here?

pseudo rivet
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Alright, here it is

tired anvil
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Wonderful

quaint shard
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I got myself the best weight carrying artifact

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There

tired anvil
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'grats

pseudo rivet
foggy minnow
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Damn its basically that place

tired anvil
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Welp, guess it's 50/50 on a new building or a retcon

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Hoping for the former

pseudo rivet
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Actually, now I'm looking at it, there is a hallway there

tired anvil
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There is

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Just lacking a pillar

pseudo rivet
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But yeah, pillar is gone

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Pillars*

tired anvil
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Replaced by the light. Though I'm not willing to guess that they were too lazy back then to do that

pseudo rivet
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Skif entering through a door seems weird, though

tired anvil
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And pillars were a normal thing

pseudo rivet
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I mean, that's the end of the building

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There should be a window there

hallow solstice
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Y’all think stalker 2 is gonna merge all the maps like anomaly or make a brand new massive map?

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Or maybe merge them all and add stuff. I imagine it’ll probably be that tbh

tired anvil
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Seamless open world is all I'm saying

grand pendant
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seamless open world with some old locations and prolly new ones

hallow solstice
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Also when they say biggest open world to date

gusty trench
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Seanless open world

hallow solstice
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They mean in stalker or every game ever??

grand pendant
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one of the biggest open worlds to date

tired anvil
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They say one of the biggest

hallow solstice
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Ambitious

gusty trench
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They were saying the same during CS development

tired anvil
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I'm not disappointed with CS

gusty trench
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I'm not either.

solid dome
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At this point I think the game is in pre-alpha

tired anvil
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X

grand pendant
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i would remove the gameplay part

solid dome
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Considering they released 2 in-engine trailers

tired anvil
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They also had an in-engine render over a year ago

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I doubt it's in alpha phase, definitely past that

gusty trench
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Nice Батон

tired anvil
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Over 2 and a half years since announcement of development + unknown amount of time or work before it

grand pendant
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if s2 doesn't have bread eating animations i'm refunding

tired anvil
quaint shard
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I just wanna see new Sidorovich and Beard

tired anvil
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Bold of you to assume that they aren't dead

grand pendant
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sid's grave

quaint shard
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:(

gusty trench
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It's almost 2021 and they haven't added render of Kielbasa yet.

tired anvil
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Smh they said 2020 is going to be a big year but only gave us this honk

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Waiting for the release date before the year ends

gusty trench
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Well. It's enough for me.

tired anvil
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Yea agreed. Save the goods for 2021

gusty trench
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Not a lot, but at least we have it

tired anvil
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Let this god forbidden year end already

pseudo rivet
grand pendant
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about the pda though, weird design

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would've prefered the SoC pda but ok

tired anvil
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Has a knob like a radio

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What I find interesting is the no signal message in it

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Guess Imma loose signal in Crimson's cave idea

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Stuck in tunnels for 3h CringeYes

pseudo rivet
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B-b-b-ut this i-i-i-is the Pip-Boy 3000, which is b-better than the Pip-Boy 2000!

tired anvil
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Tbh I like the new PDA

grand pendant
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9th generation ipad be like

tired anvil
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Lmao

grand pendant
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seems too big

gusty trench
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I find it kinda strange, but the more games become technological, the less they're developed properly, and the less they look playable.

pseudo rivet
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Nintendo Switch PDA

tired anvil
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I don't see how that's strange

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Tons of promised features + more work + lack of funds + less done work + dumb advertising + more stress = big mess

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Aka Cyberpunk

gusty trench
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Doesn't it mean that the game industry is degrading again?

pseudo rivet
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Honestly, the green and yellow light on the PDA looks too bright

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Plus, it's shaped like a star

gusty trench
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Like it was way back in previous century?

solid dome
pseudo rivet
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The door

solid dome
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GSC door?

pseudo rivet
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Oh, please

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No, the school door

grand pendant
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wdym skif concept?

solid dome
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You guys see things I don't cause of the goddamn monitor anyway

frail fox
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Hello

grand pendant
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hello

solid dome
gusty trench
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Concept of "New Game - New Character" works. So I was right.

grand pendant
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sure, tauruso

gusty trench
gleaming dust
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I am happy

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this looks better than metro

grand pendant
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yikes

gray moth
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i dont think comparing metro and stalker is fair

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not the same spirit imo

solid dome
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This will look nothing like in the final game

pseudo rivet
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Yikes Moment, man

gleaming dust
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we never know.

solid dome
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Sure we do

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Though no need to argue the obvious

gusty trench
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Anyway. Seems that Skif is also a popular character of many mods and books (where he mostly plays the role of the merc).
Btw, Скифы died thousands years ago and they were popular for being good archers "skuda (bow) - ta". Maybe it says anything.

grand pendant
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it's in tarkov too

pseudo rivet
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Remember Slyth?

grand pendant
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idm that, common nicknames are cool. Boutta get my man Tuna, Raven, Screw, Skull

gusty trench
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🤔

pseudo rivet
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Skif field support system

grand pendant
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also that upgrade

gleaming dust
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I mean metro is one of the most detailed games of all time, with MW and a few others as rivals. This has the feeling of being one of the most demanding, detailed games. And I like that.

solid dome
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Why even mentioning Call of Crab in this server I can't....

hushed aurora
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Kek

tired anvil
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Merc protag feels_honk_stalk

pseudo rivet
grand pendant
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if so i wish they had a para-FAL

tired anvil
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Inb4 Skif is Scar smile_scar

pseudo rivet
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Where his Vintar BC at?

gusty trench
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They decided to use old LR-300.

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huh

drowsy burrow
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is there a gameplay teaser without the ign logo?

pseudo rivet
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Probably GSC's own channel

gusty trench
drowsy burrow
solid dome
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Full 1080p if they uploaded already

drowsy burrow
#

in glorious 4k

pseudo rivet
#

Killing Strelok with such graphics... smile_scar

grand pendant
pseudo rivet
#

Scar hella alpha male, yo

solid dome
hazy raven
#

Happy New year to everybody. 🎆

rare rain
#

Holy moly the trailer looks good, can’t wait to preorder it

red ledge
#

🎆

gray moth
#

defo dont preorder

red ledge
#

if its on steam ill preorder it day 1 smile_strelok

gray moth
#

pre ordering things is the best way to get ripped off

#

look at how cp77 went on

drowsy burrow
#

stalker 2 is the only game i will ever preorder

#

just because it is stalker

gray moth
#

im super hype too but... not enough for pre order

wicked current
#

cyberpunk was doomed to "fail" because of the huge hype and rushes.

grand pendant
#

carl, my son, you have 70 dollars. No you must choose:

s2
sex

wicked current
#

i think it was pretty obvious that people were gonna get dissapointed.

pseudo rivet
#

It was, honestly

#

Just not for those who were on the hype train

wicked current
#

and you see, S2 and CP77 are games of different scopes too.

red ledge
#

as long as gsc dont promise things they cant do, it's gonna be good

pseudo rivet
#

That's why they're try to not promise too much

drowsy burrow
#

i only hope that the A-life makes a return

grand pendant
#

it will

red ledge
#

yep

pseudo rivet
#

A-Life will be back

wicked current
#

refund.

drowsy burrow
#

kill skif

pseudo rivet
wicked current
#

A-life will be epic.

#

stalker oblivion lost was the right way to go imo.

stoic sigil
#

S trelo K 's I ndividual F reedom npc

grand pendant
#

best part of S:OL is that is so different from stalker that they could just make it Sure_I_am

stoic sigil
#

Do you play it?

wicked current
#

7 documents,

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builds from stason? no.

#

never heard of that actually

stoic sigil
#

It's CoC based mod

#

with lots of additions

wicked current
#

-7 documents which different factions would like their hands on. makes for great conflict.

grand pendant
#

i doubt stason has anything to do with even the oblivion lost solyanka mashup

grand pendant
stoic sigil
#

I always liked this strange atmosphere of unity with the unknown in the stalker

#

Words can't describe it

grand pendant
#

apparently mlr dev got out off stalker modding bc stason took some of his work and everyone think is original from stason. but i can't confirm that

stoic sigil
#

Those who lived in the CIS will unfortunately experience a wider range of emotions

wicked current
#

it certainly is special, the atmosphere.

stoic sigil
tired anvil
stoic sigil
#

I have an abandoned factory near my village. My friend and I called him Jupiter

#

When we were children we were often there and once

tired anvil
#

What if I don't live in CIS but the location looks the same to my area? LennyThink

#

Remember, not all former Soviet lands became CIS

stoic sigil
#

As usual, we climbed over the fence, climbed into the workshop, then climbed onto the roof

#

We decided to have a snack

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And then I heard the dogs

wicked current
stoic sigil
#

It turned out that the plant was not completely abandoned and was guarded.

wicked current
#

what makes it special for me?

stoic sigil
#

We were quickly caught and forced to gut our backpacks

grand pendant
#

what makes you prefer it over retail

wicked current
#

right,

tired anvil
stoic sigil
#

They found nothing except vodka and baconsmile_scar

#

And they let us go, we never appeared there

wicked current
#

well i really like the concept. it has the same feel like the water chip in fallout 1, where you have a well done time limit. it creates ingame tension, where factions would go into conflict to obtain secret zone documents.

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i also love the scrapped locations.

#

there are also a bunch of neat ideas sprinkled here and there.

tired anvil
#

This was a yes or no question

wicked current
#

so it's a yes.

grand pendant
#

my problem with timed games comes with the limitation of exploration, but if the time isn't real or absurdly large like fallout 1 it's kinda homo

wicked current
tired anvil
#

I spent hours looking around at the Swamps smile_scar

wicked current
grand pendant
#

72 hours in cordon gang

wicked current
#

fallout 1 does it right, cause 100 days are enough to explore most of the wasteland.

grand pendant
#

that's the problem, unless you usually sleep through your playthroughs, it won't fail. So that limitation is an illusion

wicked current
#

they could achieve that in stalker too, without doubt.

rose arch
#

euyyy

grand pendant
#

also the "ayo get your son fast!!!" or "find your father quickly!!!" but take it easy and help settlements

wicked current
#

well not really.

#

i hate when games don't have real consequences.

#

in fallout 1, it's game over.

tired anvil
#

So this is why you love Dark Souls so much

rose arch
#

wow so excited for stalker 20

wicked current
#

but if let's say duty got a piece of the important documents, that would make for a great conflict.

#

maybe the only way would be to get them by force?

grand pendant
#

was stalker 2 good, froggy?

wicked current
#

but that's how i see it.

grand pendant
#

i just don't think open world, survival rpg games work well with time limits on the main quest that won't let you play the game after you beat such quest

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even in fallout 1, time only advanced when moving between locations, so it was more of a travel limit

wicked current
#

but it can done be right! it can be done really poorly, but man, if such mechanic is done right then it really shines! yeah_stalk

#

and it's probably really difficult to execute, i get that.

grand pendant
#

yeah it can, at the cost of not letting you complete everything. Like Pathologic 2, making you prioritize which quests will you take

wicked current
#

oh yeah.

sullen sierra
#

what are you guys talking about?

#

i got lost

wicked current
#

well,

#

i guess i'm just going on about my perfect vision of stalker. which was the oblivion lost builds and the different concepts gsc had in mind.

sullen sierra
#

i see

wicked current
#

but i'm done.

sullen sierra
#

also saw something about time limits?

wicked current
#

yeah, secret zone documents were a sort of mcguffin in the early development.

#

npc's could obtain those and beat the game before you.

#

a time limit, if you will. creates nice tention.

sullen sierra
#

ye im not exactly fond of this

#

but maybe something like there was in call of pripyat in jupiter

#

when you got one set of documents mercs showed up and tried to stop you

#

or even more accuratly in zaton when you get that wierd artifact

sharp frost
#

Happy new year from aussies

sullen sierra
#

happy new year comrade

shadow drift
#

can we get a smiling skif in 'ere

abstract kayak
#

nice

bleak zinc
#

NIce

bleak zinc
finite dragon
#

Hello

visual cove
#

hello

abstract kayak
#

hello

bleak zinc
#

how

abstract kayak
#

si

finite dragon
#

What's up?

abstract kayak
#

Very nice

steep fiber
#

Hello

finite dragon
#

i wonder what GPU we need for stalker 2MonkaS
with the current turbulence on hardware market it will be quite interesting what impact stalker will have

bleak zinc
#

nice, my computer is going to burn

shadow drift
#

same
my crappy laptop wont be able to handle the game prolly

bleak zinc
#

lets hope for good optimization

livid spindle
#

b

finite dragon
#

I have change my config for stalker 2

Now i have a phenon x4 955 oc at 4.5ghz (with a coler master hyper 212)
And a 660 twin frozr

On a mini itx XD

errant orbit
#

Gonna have to get two industrial fans to handle the heat my gpu is going to emit

finite dragon
#

@bleak zinc Unreal is one of the most used engines, you can have low level developers and they can still pull off a great game thanks to the internet and tons of help on forums and other portals to get help

bleak zinc
#

yeah

#

i know

#

but still

#

the game looks really heavy

finite dragon
#

I had in mind to build a new rig tho in oct. with new gpu and 5000 ryzen - no chance, paperlaunch after paperlaunch plus work-from-home poop made a mess out of that plan and some last-last gen GPUs like 1060, 1070, 1660ti etc. are spiking over their release price again which is totally absurd. same for even Ryzen 3000 and PSUs

grand pendant
#

ole reliable 1650 super

finite dragon
#

had my build planned to be a 2000€ build with 5900x, 6900XT, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz and 2 sabrent rocket 4.0 - now thats worth more like 3200-3800€ depending where u try to get scammed

#

happy new year

#

now fork over the master role chump

bleak zinc
#

i have a RX 580 with 8gb of vram, and a 9th generation i5

#

i hope it runs

#

because im not in the condition for upgrading my rig

finite dragon
#

u should be fine, not on max but good - I have a laptop tho with i5 8250U and a hybrid Radeon520 which depenign on driber is enabled/hybrid/dedicated or a R5 M330... its a total mess that HP sold

#

I struggle with Anomaly on DX8 with grass on zero, shadow to lowest and detail reduced already...

past shuttle
#

The greatest anomaly we have come across, 2020

finite dragon
#

the greatest anomaly is

#

where is rock

past shuttle
#

@finite dragon Huh?

opaque yacht
#

Wouldn't say greatest, just as bad as the Brain Scorcher

finite dragon
#

rock just vanished

pseudo rivet
#

Rock is here

#

Just look at the Habar Guys

finite dragon
#

now mcculkin is the boi that responds the most

pseudo rivet
#

He responds, yes

tired anvil
#

Rock was here both yesterday and today smile_degtyarev

past shuttle
#

I love these emojis

finite dragon
warm lance
#

They're great

finite dragon
#

Turn this stinky thing off, my head is going to explode!

frank condor
untold temple
#

hello

#

goodbye

jolly garnet
#

uh did someone notice that at the end of the teaser the black screen it's beccause a burer throw a chair at the character ?

merry sluice
#

You know, having a chair thrown at your face violently will likely knock you out

chilly iron
#

I really hope Stalker 2 will live up to at least the fun of previous games.

#

And that it's moddable.

bleak zinc
#

chair toss

tired anvil
#

Can even see the Burer

merry sluice
#

Chair goes BRRRRRRRR

jolly garnet
#

uh ok so I'm late

merry sluice
#

I keep seeing people say there is a burer

#

but where tf is he

jolly garnet
#

just saw again the video

merry sluice
#

can't see him nowhere

jolly garnet
#

it's in the red

#

behind the chair

#

make HQ at 0.25 and you'll notice his beautiful face

merry sluice
#

Now I see him

#

just as beautyfull the day I entered the zone for the first time

night hemlock
#

Woo

mystic hazel
#

Re

still zodiac
#

Idk if I agree

solar minnow
#

happy new year stalkers, and rip to everyone we lost in 2020 😦

light quiver
#

let's hope there are more artifacts to find in 2021

tame silo
#

woo

rose arch
#

can i run Stalker Anomaly? GT 730 DDR3, AMD Phenom 2 .. Im not looking for your opinion "oh what a trash old pc" jeez idc it can run most stuff and the old stalker games the best

solar minnow
rose arch
#

that might have sounded a bit rude.. im sorry

solar minnow
#

but you should ask that to anomaly discord, they have updated the game since then

rose arch
#

ah

#

okay thanks

lyric forge
#

I just saw the short gameplay vid, damn that looks nice.

rose arch
#

yep

#

and the atmosphere.. The STALKER series all games in general have this almost comfy atmosphere. And it hits me even more because im in a country so close to ukraine.. Wow

#

STALKER is awesome

lyric forge
#

Yeah hope the game turns out good and not half done glitchy politically centered game trying to appeal to everything in existence for sales. Hope for the best!

river ember
#

Boys I want to see the models for the factions so badly

#

The day I see them drop a monolith npc pic is the day I nut eternally

quiet flicker
#

so does the new fb post mean the game will release in 2021 or what?

#

they're being cryptic

bleak zinc
#

yes'nt

grand pendant
#

they probably don't want to say it outright in case smth goes wrong, but everything indicates 2021

quiet flicker
#

yeah they said ''we are entering the center of the zone next year''

#

but you're probably right, they're being cautious because they don't know themselves

grand pendant
#

i'm sure some dev said they do have a date, but won't release in case they need to delay it

bleak zinc
#

well, in ukraine its 2020

grand pendant
#

not a dev but a pr guy

quiet flicker
bleak zinc
#

technically

#

yes

quiet flicker
#

that's what I'm saying

#

but before writing that, they indicated that they have a long way to go and they wrote ''we've just entered the perimiter'' so I'm confused

bleak zinc
#

that maybe is because they dont want to insinuate nothing

quiet flicker
#

yeah, also if they don't know if they can pull off a 2021 release, that means it's gonna release late 2021 at the earliest

bleak zinc
#

yeah

#

maybe a mid 2021 gameplay trailer

#

and a late 2021/ early 2020 release

quiet flicker
#

yeah

#

probably on point

bleak zinc
#

well, it will probably get modded so the game its better

#

but im confident that GSC will make a good stalker

hushed aurora
#

Rule 3

grand pendant
#

yeah, mind that

finite dragon
#

hello

grand pendant
#

howdy

finite dragon
#

good wbu

quiet flicker
#

I don't know

bleak zinc
#

well, stalker has been always story driven

quiet flicker
#

woah woah

#

stalker is like 2/10 in terms of story driven

bleak zinc
#

idk

#

it looks good to me

quiet flicker
#

metro = story driven
stalker = gameplay driven

lone leaf
#

All I know is nobody better whine about dates being pushed back.

bleak zinc
#

we'll see when it launches

lone leaf
#

We've seen what that does

grand pendant
#

bruh, stalker is completely story driven

#

everything contributes to story and lore

tired anvil
#

I feel like a lot of people don't count the lore and stuff to the story

quiet flicker
#

I personally don't

#

for example

#

almost everything that happens in metro is story...it's all scripted and cinematic

#

it's linear and the whole game tells a story

tired anvil
#

No swearing btw

quiet flicker
#

only the main quest is the story but even that is not scripted

#

sorry

hushed aurora
#

Like a movie zak of sorts

quiet flicker
#

I forget

tired anvil
#

And I'd agree if the sidequests and stuff were like AC where it's just bring smth back

#

But when they genuinely add something, I don't quite agree

grand pendant
#

the lore is part of the story, the main quest is just the main plot

quiet flicker
#

there0s no cutscenes and pre meditated events in stalker, only in minimal amounts

hushed aurora
#

I prefer Stalker's story telling tbh

tired anvil
#

CoP wouldn't have half of it's story if not for the side quests even

grand pendant
#

you gotta work your definition of story telling, bc if you think story is only told through cutscenes there's smth wrong

quiet flicker
#

@tired anvil how do quests in SOC add anything to the story? They're literally just that: bring something back, kill this guy, rid area of mutants

hushed aurora
#

It approaches more to live it rather than it being told to me

quiet flicker
#

now for COP I'd agree but that advances the lore, not the plot of the game

lone leaf
#

Sandbox storytelling requires an inquisitive player who works for it. If you wait for it to come to you you'll have a bad time, that's the tradeoff.

hushed aurora
#

Which i think is nice

grand pendant
#

Sid's sidequests explain how people organize trips to the Zone

quiet flicker
#

the plot of the game is actually very minimal

lone leaf
#

I've run years of D&D hexcrawls with the same results.

tired anvil
#

Well, if you ignore quests in SoC you can completely miss the canon ending

hushed aurora
#

^

grand pendant
#

Sakharov's sidequest explain the use of mutants parts outside the Zone as well

#

Barkeep's sidequestes explain marauders, mercs relations with bandits

#

Freedom's sidequests explain mutant breeding in WT

#

and much more

hushed aurora
#

Its all in reading bro

quiet flicker
#

but that's lore...I guess we have different definitions of story driven

grand pendant
#

lore is part of the story my man

hushed aurora
#

What does define the story? The lore does

quiet flicker
#

so would you say that serious sam is a story driven game?

#

because there's lore

hushed aurora
#

Lmao what

lone leaf
#

That said if that's not your deal it don't make you a bad person or whatever, it's a preference thing. Some people like having the story handed to them with just a few choice-input points.

grand pendant
#

if it encourages story like stalker, then yes

lone leaf
#

But yeah that wouldn't be stalker's style.

grand pendant
#

bc you missed story doesn't mean it isn't there

lone leaf
#

I like how this game kinda feels like the world happens around you

quiet flicker
#

I didn't ''miss the story''

lone leaf
#

And your story is dependent on how much you go look into it

quiet flicker
#

stalker is all about the setting and atmosphere...the last of us is all about the story etc

quiet flicker
#

there's a difference between the two games

hushed aurora
#

You are living it rather than being told it

grand pendant
#

oh really, can you explain how many times in total Strelok went to the CNPP? smile_scar

pseudo rivet
quiet flicker
#

2

grand pendant
#

4

pseudo rivet
#

There we go

#

4

lone leaf
#

But yeah having GMed for both Sandbox and Interactive Railroad players I'd never dump on someone for liking one over the other, I just enjoy the box a lot more.

grand pendant
#

do you know when was the Zone created?

quiet flicker
#

2006 or 7

#

something like that

pseudo rivet
#

||April or June Gang?||

quiet flicker
#

but that's just the lore

tired anvil
lone leaf
#

||The C-Consciousness program precedes the Chernobyl explosion, doesn't it?||

pseudo rivet
#

No

hushed aurora
#

Wasnt it the other way

pseudo rivet
#

Chernobyl Disaster happened first

grand pendant
hushed aurora
#

Psure its after

lone leaf
#

Ohhh

hushed aurora
#

Yeah

lone leaf
#

I thought the program caused the initial blast, maybe I got that mixed up

pseudo rivet
#

The explosion made a good cover-up for the scientists to experiment all sorts of stuff there, plus they could still use the CNPP for energy

lone leaf
#

Ok yeah that makes sense

tired anvil
#

Yo

pseudo rivet
#

Yo

#

YO

#

YOYOYO

grand pendant
#

ayo

pseudo rivet
#

No way

tired anvil
#

Mfw I was about to close the Ark tonight

#

Guess not

pseudo rivet
#

Bruh

grand pendant
#

new year's miracle smile_scar

pseudo rivet
#

What's the plot of CS?

lone leaf
#

Local gopnik ruins everything

pseudo rivet
#

No, that's SoC

lone leaf
#

lmao

hushed aurora
#

Kek

finite dragon
#

A

#

hello tony

#

im ton

#

XD

rotund ruin
#

which is a better modification for a shotgun flatness or recoil

grand pendant
#

flatness

bleak zinc
#

Flatgun

pseudo rivet
#

Well, flatness would allow your shotgun to shoot farther, allowing your shotgun to become quite devastating, but recoil could become more useful in close-quarters

#

So, it's up to you

rotund ruin
#

i only wanted to know because i just stripped a shotgun off of a fallen zombied stalker and i was trying to decide on what i should choose for modifications

grand pendant
#

i would say reducing recoil in a shotgun is not gonna help at all, honestly

pseudo rivet
#

Which shotgun are you upgrading?

rotund ruin
#

a chaser 13

grand pendant
#

then again, i always use the ToS 34 lmao

#

yikes, horrible shotgun

#

you def need flatness

pseudo rivet
#

Yeah, it's pretty bad

#

Even when upgraded for medium-range

rotund ruin
#

but i do have a sawed off but its fully modified

pseudo rivet
#

I'd go for an SPSA-14 or an Eliminator

#

Although, the sawed-off shotgun can definitely be pretty strong if you have a lot of stamina

finite dragon
#

Sincerely sorry if I jumped into the middle of any ongoing conversations but just a few words.
Since 2021 just hit here. I just want to say that I'm happy and grateful to have a chance to experience this masterpiece of a game and get to know and be a part of this wholesome community of stalkers. You guys have made this year of mine became more colorful, memorable and awesome. 2020 was a trying year for all of us to various degree but until the very end, we did persevere. Now we will carry all of our biggest hope and anticipation into the year of 2021. Looking forward to the adventure ahead. Thank you all and Happy New Year, Stalkers.

pseudo rivet
#

Happy New Year

dreamy island
#

Happy new year stalkers

still ridge
#

🎊

rotund ruin
#

dido on the new part

grand pendant
#

to you as well

rotund ruin
#

well i guess its hunting time to look for an eliminator or SPSA-14

grand pendant
#

for now you can honestly do better with a hunting rifle

#

or shotgun, whatever you're playing smile_scar

stark shadow
#

😃 hello

grand pendant
#

hey

stark shadow
pseudo rivet
#

Heya

stark shadow
#

Kolbasa

rotund ruin
#

to be honest what ever has enough stopping power

pseudo rivet
#

An RPG-7u, honestly

grand pendant
#

then the hunting rifle

pseudo rivet
#

But for the best efficiency in combat, I'd go for the Eliminator

rotund ruin
#

what sort of ammo does the hunting rifle take

pseudo rivet
#

Although, be careful about it's RoF, because you'll go through ammo pretty fast with it. Reloading also takes a while

grand pendant
#

every shotgun uses the same ammo

rotund ruin
#

oh so the hunting rifle is just a shotgun? ok then i have a few rounds of 12x70

grand pendant
#

what are you playing btw? i assume at least CS or CoP

pseudo rivet
#

CoP

rotund ruin
#

CoP

finite dragon
#

this looks amazing

#

Eliminator can use scopes too so why not?

rotund ruin
#

Fair enough

pseudo rivet
#

Second best accuracy, highest mag size, high RoF

rotund ruin
#

plus few stalkers are giving me trouble so a scoped weapon is what i need considering i cant get close enough without being turned into swiss cheese

grand pendant
#

it's a shotgun with high spread so the scope is meh

finite dragon
#

i don't trust some of zone stalkers

rotund ruin
#

yeah that is a pretty good rule to live by when traveling around in the zone

finite dragon
#

In some mods I heard Merc and bandits can disguise as loners too

#

Now that's cruel

rotund ruin
#

ok now that is scary if mercs and bandits can disguise as loners

#

screw everything that can already kill you that is worse ugh especially if it were in SoC where bandits and mercs dont care and will just shoot on sight

finite dragon
#

At least you can shoot them as you like. In CS you have to play nice with the damned bandits if you want to fully upgrade your SEVA

rotund ruin
#

i think an automatic firing mode for chaser 13 is pointless don't ya think considering its bad already

finite dragon
#

At least Chaser is durable enough compared to the Western guns

rotund ruin
#

yeah you have a point

grand pendant
#

it is western though

#

winchester 1300

rotund ruin
#

with my armor i really don't have to worry considering i have a decently upgraded exo well enough to get me by most situations

#

wait

#

is it tho

finite dragon
#

Just sprint it out if you get into trouble

#

oh wait

rotund ruin
#

it is a western shotgun but i don't believe its a winchester model though

finite dragon
#

IMFDB said it's an Maverick 88

grand pendant
#

it is in the internal files

#

wpn_wincheaster1300

#

maverick is still western anyway

rotund ruin
#

are you sure you don't mean a different shotgun chaser 13 is closer to a maverick than a winchester1300

#

then again internal files don't lie most of the time >->

grand pendant
#

it definitely isn't a winchester1300, but that's it's name

#

maverick 88 is indeed the closest

rotund ruin
#

yeah because i don't think there ever was a winchester model that was a pump action like the chaser 13 or there was tbh i forget most of the time

#

nvm fact checked XD i hate having a bad memory -_-

#

Chaser 13
(Mossberg 88/Winchester 1300) wiki says its a mossberg 88 from what i know

#

the ingame code is just wacky i guess

#

or it was poor translation either way

#

this went offtop real fast anyways guess im going for an eliminator correct?

finite dragon
#

Absolutely

#

Even though it has a lower damage offset and a shorter range, it will pretty much carry you through the game too

#

Until you get your hands on Strelok's SIG

rotund ruin
#

is that better or like the holy grail of weapons in CoP

finite dragon
#

What better?

grand pendant
#

a TRs-301 is better honestly

rotund ruin
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soooooooo that then?

grand pendant
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although the normal SGI-5k is based

rotund ruin
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just give me a suggestion on a weapon i should hunt for and i will search the entire game for it possibly dying a few times in the progress but hey such life is the zone am i right

finite dragon
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F-2000, Strelok's SIG, Eliminator, Storm, Tide, Lynx, RPG-7, RG-6 and Gauss

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IMO

grand pendant
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SGI-5k or TRs-301 are my recommendatios

rotund ruin
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ight this is where it gets real hardbass on bottle of vodka on table knuckles cracked ak cocked exo on its huntin time i got enough ammo to kill half of the renegade and bandit population here in the zone not enough fire power tho but i can make this work

frail spire
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You can do that with 9x18 and 9x19 only

finite dragon
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You know what they say, if firepower doesn't work...
then MORE firepower

rotund ruin
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ah the words of a true stalker

worthy lark
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pfft just go ahh_nuu and knife everyone

rotund ruin
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sneeki breeki knife time eh?

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sounds like plan

finite dragon
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Yeah the knife can one shot an BTR in SoC as far as I remembered

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No kidding

rotund ruin
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yeah ik XD

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the knife is pretty op ngl

finite dragon
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And that's how I won the Arena too

digital crescent
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Pity STALKER wont be release on PS5

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Gotta play it on PC

rotund ruin
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i just forget to use it sometimes then sometimes i do use it and i dominate every living soul in the area XD until someone kills me yeah sometimes im just not sneeki enough

frail spire
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More like, thank god gsc won't waste time trying to pander to console players and we'll have an aids-free modding scene

rotund ruin
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agreed

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console communities are cancer

frail spire
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Whenever I think of modded games I always remember how bringing mods to consoles ruined communities like the Skyrim one

finite dragon
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Basically the consoles ruined and changed many game's development back then but I'll keep this for off topic

frail spire
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"lmao just check the ps4/xbox box"

rotund ruin
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we should take this to off topic unless we want mods stepping in then be my guest continue here XD

frail spire
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"OMG MY CONSOLE JUST GOT BRICKED"

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yeah yeah

grand pendant
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it's ok to get out of topic a bit, happens

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just take it easy

frail spire
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Having offtopic isn't an issue unless it turns into a full blown disruptive argument

rotund ruin
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true guess the main rule of thumb is dont go overkill with the offtopic on other channels

finite dragon
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Ehem so anyone has any idea for the Exo to spawn in CS SRP. Kinda want that Duty's shiny Tunder but I don't want to kill em

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The last time I got it through Faction Wars but it in SRP-less so...

frail spire
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Thats something I will try to ask devs, do you have to do something specific to get stuff to spawn into npcs inventories

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Like killing an npc before it throws a grenade

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Making it lootable

grand pendant
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no, think that's just random

finite dragon
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Oh just waiting a bit until Duty deploy their Exo

rotund ruin
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well i mean you could always just get a spawn menu i think there is one for each game unless you are trying to stay original then i got nothing that can help tbh

grand pendant
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you can't take their suits btw

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just work for it and buy it

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remember, cheating is gay

frail spire
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Suits are never lootable unless you're playing mods that allows you to do it

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What about shooting guns in npcs hands to make them unusable

finite dragon
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And risk getting Duty to go after my head? No thanks

rotund ruin
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duty is just another pest in my opinion

grand pendant
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based and agreed

frail spire
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All factions are a pest

grand pendant
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freedom is based and redpilled

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or greenpilled i guess

finite dragon
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Maybe except Loners

frail spire
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I wonder if loners will end up like mercs in the new game

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As in, instead of being one big "faction" it's a bunch of independant groups

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Like it was meant to be

grand pendant
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loners are just bandits with unwritten codes

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and they are independant groups

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you can't think Vampire's group is tied to others

frail spire
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Point taken I guess

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I just find hard all loners being in okish terms with sid and barman being the biggest scammers in the whole game

finite dragon
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800RU for Gauss, god I was an idiot back then

rotund ruin
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ah yes sid and barman

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i hate the both of them

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and when ever i see them i yell at my monitor just to clarify it yes im strange that way

grand pendant
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some loners tried to screw Sid by making themselves look like his "sales representatives" and scamming other loners

frail spire
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I mean, sid screws over everyone 24/7 without fail

grand pendant
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Smartass group tried to takeover Sid's business

frail spire
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Hard to say he didn't had it coming

woeful lynx
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RIP those loners

frail spire
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True

tired anvil
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Sid's a baller, gotta respect the grind

grand pendant
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you never really hear of him lore-wise scamming people anyway, maybe you're joking and i am missing smth smile_scar

frail spire
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Buying artifacts at 500 rubles while selling canned food for 2000 ru is hardly a grind just saying

rotund ruin
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tbh sid is a grease ball but yeah gotta respect him

frail spire
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In fact I wonder where all that money goes considering hes a big merchant

grand pendant
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if it wasn't for him stalkers would've been cracked down long ago

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at least southern guys

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belarussian fellas would still thrive ig

rotund ruin
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true

frail spire
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It's a symbiotic relationship with sid being mostly on the abusive side

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Loners are basically abused wives

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They know it but can't leave the rookie village (house)

rotund ruin
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not to mention the military border/checkpoint right next to the loner camp in cordon

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though the military seem to keep to them selves

grand pendant
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that's why they wouod've been cracked down, Sid bribed them to not shoot stalkers

rotund ruin
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how sid never leaves his bunker

grand pendant
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and apparently only Sid can do that, because Valerian tried to do it and failed miserably, causing a war with the military

rotund ruin
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sid has skills i'll give him that

pseudo rivet
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Well, that's because Khaletskiy sold out the Free Stalkers to the Bandits, so that's why it all started

rotund ruin
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and insane prices on bad equipment >_>

finite dragon
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I feel sad afrer seeing how the camp turned out to be in SoC you know

grand pendant
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i oversimplified it but clearly relations weren't going well, stalkers couldn't keep up with the money

pseudo rivet
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Yet people around Jupiter complain that local traders are much worse than Sidorovich

finite dragon
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So much for Loner's great future ahead

frail spire
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My bet is that sid is an undercover military officer or something

grand pendant
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specially bc that dumbass Shilov just bought stuff from Sid and sold it to stalkers, even though Sid is like 1km away

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that's no way to keep a business lmao

frail spire
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Yeah

rotund ruin
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how is such things possible comrade crimson when barkeep and sidorovich are the worst traders in the zone XD as far as cordon to duty base well the SoC duty base

frail spire
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Sid and Barman are the equivalent of Gandhi AI in civ games

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They're introduced lore wise as "good" people

pseudo rivet
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Well, here's the thing

frail spire
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But then the gandhi AI has a +5 in hostility function nuking the whole world

pseudo rivet
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There's a goldrush around the parts of Zaton and Jupiter

grand pendant
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they were intrduced as businessmen, both clearly state that

frail spire
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The way they scam the player is in no way businessmen-like though, sure you can scam people but in the long run you're gonna get stabbed