⭐┃nospoilers_general

[hazy helm]

and adding joke options like the VPO or TOZ which are worse versions of what you already have is cope from tarkov players
add the SGI-5K and IL86 back

[lofty fossil]

there were 8-9 shot revolvers out there irl

[lofty fossil]

definitely the sgi 5k i loved the sig 552

[pseudo rivet]

SGI-5k my beloved

Shame it's not in the game

It's goated in the Trilogy

Or CS/CoP, at least

[lofty fossil]

what guns do you wanna see returning or adding to stalker 2 by the end of its lifespan

[pseudo rivet]

SGI-5k, 100%

IL 86 too

[fair jackal]

i hardly ever used the SGI-5k or what was if it's the gun i am thinking of

[pseudo rivet]

Wait, are you referring to your own experience or...?

If so, you really should try out the SGI-5k in CS and CoP

They're really good

[fair jackal]

SGI-5k, the gun based on the SIG SG 550 or so. yeah i almost never used it.

just felt the GP was better.

[pseudo rivet]

I can definitely recommend it

It's a great weapon

GP 37 is a sidegrade, basically

It's a matter of preference

But in SoC, yeah, the GP 37 is better

[fair jackal]

how's the update been so far for people who's been playing on it?

[golden vector]

weird

feels like not much really changed

[fair jackal]

i mean it didn't. i read the notes and i don't feel like many things in general was mentioned.

the AI was supposed to be better, idk if it is, i don't feel like getting on just for what that update did.

and mutants now eat things like they used to.

[celest blaze]

id just play fallout 4 ngl

[fair jackal]

ah yes. the game that they made a next gen version of that broke the game. did they ever fix the plethora of issues they added to it?

[celest blaze]

what did it break lol runs fine for me no issues on my 50ish hour run so far

crazy dissing fallout 4 when shit like stalker 2 exists alife still not there after 6 months 💀

[fair jackal]

people were reporting issues with frames, crashes, mods having issues and other things that wasn't an issue before too. i had started a run on Hardcore or survivial or what that mode is called where you have to sleep and eat and drink and all that. didn't get far in before i decided to just stop because i didn't wanna put many hours in it just to have issues later lol.

[gritty orchid]

[celest blaze]

any game can have issues though

hell stalker 2 is a whole issue itself 💀

[fair jackal]

Stalker 2 is just in Early Access. it just wasn't ready nor was it what we were promised in the interviews i feel.

[celest blaze]

it prob wont ever be ready lol

[fair jackal]

i still put 466 hours into it but those are just facts.

[celest blaze]

they never took down the alife 2.0 in non ukranian and english steam pages lol

[coarse sparrow]

some games are never finished u know

[fair jackal]

i know but i think people just expected this to be closer to being finished.

[celest blaze]

still waiting for a finished product prob gonna be 2028 lol

[fair jackal]

i accidentally booted it up the other day but i hadn't played since march

[celest blaze]

i wish we got something more man i was bummed that i preordered

now learning about the LOTZ EE still not having mod support is like the final straw for me lol

they dropping the ball

[fair jackal]

it sucks a bit that i paid for the extra things but like, we don't know when we'll even get the promised DLCs

[coarse sparrow]

its because of the consoles

[pseudo rivet]

Consistently

[celest blaze]

wrong

[pseudo rivet]

Partially right

[celest blaze]

xbox allows external and internal asset mods so no excuse

[coarse sparrow]

ps?

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah

[celest blaze]

who plays PS

[pseudo rivet]

So, like I said, it's partially that

[coarse sparrow]

wrong

[celest blaze]

awful company and awful platform

[pseudo rivet]

The other part is just what GSC said, which feels like a bad excuse tbh

[celest blaze]

it is 100%

[pseudo rivet]

At least, that's personally how I see it

Eh, who cares

We still have the OG games

[celest blaze]

thankfully

[pseudo rivet]

But it does hurt to see GSC constantly dropping the ball, time and time again

[celest blaze]

but as someone whos owned ps2,3,4 xbox,360, 1 and series X i can firmly say i dont like how sonys consumer attitude and mindset

[celest blaze]

right?

[fair jackal]

hmm, how does PS come into this? i don't remember hearing the game was coming to PS

[celest blaze]

legends of the zone

[fair jackal]

right that thing, mb

[celest blaze]

no worries

[versed jasper]

Does anyone know a good consistent source for 9x39 ammunition? It seems oddly enough quite rare

I know you can buy from Ragman but it's fairly expensive for the few bullets you get, would rather loot it

[supple wedge]

I just cycle guns, rather than trying to force it.
Like, AS Val, Kharod/G36, and Dnipro, and just use what I currently have a decent amount of ammo for, and loot ammo for all three.

[kindred drum]

https://tenor.com/view/tabby-cat-standing-cat-standing-2-legs-blow-dryer-gif-4147917024444767570

[versed jasper]

that's what I currently do, but I would like to use certain weapons more mostly for aesthetic reasons

like I don't really enjoy using western guns, but that's just a personal preference thing

[golden vector]

sadly no. its very annoying but you only get a good source of 9x39 after a certain point in the main quest line. and by then 9x39 is a bit to weak

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[pine edge]

Hello, I ordered the "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl Collector's Edition Reprint" from Game Legends, but I still haven't received anything yet. Am I the only one? Is this normal? (i'm French )

[sly matrix]

delayed till February 2026, you should have received a mail about it

[pine edge]

seriously? I haven't received anything, and I have nothing against a delay in a pre-order, but this is still excessive

[sly matrix]

no argument there, excessive is the right word

[late yarrow]

Excited for these enhanced games Tuesday 🤟

[merry verge]

Fallout next gen update was fixed pretty quickly for Bethesda. If mods don't work it's cuz the mod creator didn't update it. In that case you can still play the non next gen version and use those mods. But like I have a file with 4days played modded with~ 140 mods and 28.mb left of space on series S and I have had like 4 or 5 crashes my entire playthrough. Most of which were in Boston and that crashes even in vanilla sometimes.

[latent kite]

[stiff pasture]

Clint has the best expressions

[hazy helm]

keep it english

[coarse sparrow]

delayed until next year broski

[thorn ledge]

I love the Zone.

[fast stratus]

im in the zone its not that good and i cant get out

[sand fiber]

it's cuz the mod creator didn't update it
yes that's the point
on series S
lmfao

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[rapid warren]

The goat has spoken

[rancid zephyr]

Can someone please help me? Every time I start Stalker and want to play, it keeps compiling the shaders. Why? It takes 10 minutes each time, and it's really annoying. Can I turn it off? It's completely ruining the gameplay.

[dire dagger]

You can’t

And even if you could you probably wouldn’t want to

[ripe patrol]

SoonTM will be skippable

You can skip it using Engine.ini tweaks (look them up) but like Jack said not recommended

[dire dagger]

Basically if you force it to skip

[rancid zephyr]

and why i can´t skip the prolog ? on release date i skip witch enter , but dont exist anymore , why ? xD

[ripe patrol]

you can speed it up with some tweaks as well, but requieres a bit of knowledge

[dire dagger]

It will make the games already poor performance even worse

[dire dagger]

It’s been broken for me since 1.0

[rancid zephyr]

cmon , that´s sad haha

[dire dagger]

Idk I guess it’s a low priority issue sadly

[rancid zephyr]

yes iu think so

hmm

Can I disable Steam's automatic updates so I can play through the game with my mods first?

[dire dagger]

I don’t think so sadly

[ripe patrol]

You can execute the .exe directly from the stalker dir. Or start steam in offline modr

What mods are you using? Some will start getting updated soon

[rancid zephyr]

not to much , just little more space inventar , upgrade stash with more loot, better stamina , tahts it

[celest portal]

I don't know if it's the same for S2, but for Skyrim, when you launch the game modded through Vortex it is like not launching the game on Steam's end. So through settings when you have the game 'update upon launch only', it would never update.

[rancid zephyr]

all in one , i use 4 mods haha

[ripe patrol]

I think some have already been updated

[rancid zephyr]

yes , i check all mods , i only use it for 1.4

[celest portal]

But yeah you can't really stop the automatic Steam updates from happening

[rancid zephyr]

okay , just asking , thanks for your help guys 😁

[ripe patrol]

I say just give it a shot with 1.4 and some of the updated mods. It's worth missing a bit of them for 1.4 since they did a lot of good changes in the game

[coarse sparrow]

1 day left

[merry verge]

I don't understand? I'm playing on the weaker next gen system and having no issues. And if the mod isn't updated that's kinda the mod creators fault, not Bethesda. Just play the old version.

[sand fiber]

store platforms don't allow downloading "older versions", and bethesda knows this
console modding is much more limited compared to pc modding, making it less prone to breaking

[signal bronze]

After 1.4 I can't even get the game to load get an unreal engine crash error. Never had an issue before the update. Uninstalled completely and reinstalled, deleted all mods and same issue.

[dire dagger]

Many people have reported similar issues sadly

[unborn palm]

Only idea I have is clearing the shader cache

[worn oar]

Try rolling back driver, and see if the game runs on new saves or not.

[worn oar]

Yeah, if he haven't done it yet, he must see if it helps

Usually, it does

[finite dragon]

I'm getting kinda tired of seeing the "Is enhanced edition free when I own the trilogy?" Question getting answered for the 100th time, this feels like a subreddit.

[ripe atlas]

From release to now how is the game looking? Should I wait for a few more updates?

[dire wyvern]

What did 1.4.1 do for xbox?

[clear elm]

Probably nothing

[dire wyvern]

Great

[blazing fractal]

I discovered that the player body is just a visual and not a physical object, so when you use the zoom feature when looking at the floor the legs stay the same, while the floor just gets bigger

[keen bone]

I think I'm starting to accept S2 is basically an early access release and it'll maybe be 'done' in another year and a half after the DLCs, all the bugs washed + QoL tweaks and feature improvements via hella patches

GSC making consistent progress but a long way to go even after 6 months of constant patching

[blazing fractal]

Not even early access, pre alpha testing

[celest portal]

Omg
Keith

[worn oar]

It was mainly for mod related issues, but doesn't mean it's only that. Not sure if I can answer your question, but an update is an update. 0.1 is usually hotfix for main patch, so it's always welcome

[worn oar]

Well, it's definitely way better. You can start or resume now if you wish

[ripe atlas]

I loved it at release but wanted the ai to get reworked and some of the spawning issues. I had a quest where I killed maybe 40 dudes trying to exit the location.

[worn oar]

It's way better. AI is better in terms of combat and surroundings utility, so ig you'd like it

I did like the recent changes and the game felt more challenging and less static

NPCs use covers properly now

[ripe atlas]

Oh what about them shooting lasers with crazy accuracy

[worn oar]

Some instances may feel weird (lage combat scenarios in close proximity), but normal ones are good now

[worn oar]

Well, I don't think it's that big of a problem. It did feel less of an issue.

[blazing fractal]

You can still sometimes 1 tap exo with skifs pistol

[worn oar]

Penetration on that gun is real high. Wouldn't really be surprised considering the stats it carries, but whether it should be nerfed or not, that's a whole different matter.

If I am to share my opinion on current weapons balance, I would say that most guns needs some sort of recalibration

Like lager calibers must have better stats, like 5.45 and 5.56

Though, it's more of an early choice depending on guns, but AKs should have some more penetration at least at a certain cost let's say

Idk, maybe get it to be less durable but with improved pen let's say

That way, you'd still want to change the gun, but it won't be totally useless mid game or so

[blazing fractal]

Unfortunate that there isnt any incentive to use any other pistol as skifs pistol is a quest item

[worn oar]

Well, I did use other ones, so that's not really the case

It's not that heavy, so you can still use other guns if you totally ignore it

[blazing fractal]

I have no reason though to use any other weapon, ammo is cheap, overpowered and repairs cost nothing

And again its a quest item, so i cant remove it

And burers cant drop it either

[simple brook]

is performance on a 4060ti good now?

[blazing fractal]

Should be, i run a 6800xt

[simple brook]

like will it run smoothly

[untold pond]

3070 runs it really good at 1080p so far

no clue if its better or worse than a 4060ti

[blazing fractal]

Doesnt the 40series+ have an issue that it can melt your pc?

[untold pond]

lmfao it was only with the 80 and 90 im pretty sure

and the cable was RMA'd pretty quickly

it was an issue with their 8 to 12 pin adapter. only happened to the 80 and 90 cause they drew enough power to cause the plastic to melt. 60/70 were fine.

[blazing fractal]

From what i understand it is still a frequent issue, so people are no longer buying as many cards

[coarse sparrow]

check if 1.4.1 fixed

[coarse sparrow]

I mean I played 1.0 ver on 4060 and it was mostly pretty good

[jolly solar]

ah just idk how many more hours and i can play stalker again but enchanced edition

first thing imma do in SoC is kill the military at checkpoint and get an AK :^)

meanwhile waiting room for S2 SDK

[sand fiber]

the correct way is to kill Kuznetsov and only then raid the checkpoint, actually 💅

[blazing fractal]

No its to run to the armored warehouse straight away to get the vintorez

[sand fiber]

TRUE

[summer cliff]

Having played 1.4 i had to make a drastic decision and delete stalker 2 in order to wait for more patches and not play the full game again

[blazing fractal]

Fair enough, im gonna finish up my 1st playthrough then start a new one once everything is fixed

[summer cliff]

I already completed it once, it's my second playthrough for a different ending. Had to stop in Zaton to not progress further

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

[granite mortar]

1.4
Is this an AlternativA 1.4 refference?!

[haughty loom]

Anyone have a rough idea on when stalker support emails back

[blazing fractal]

Should be within a day

[thorn ledge]

Where I can find the Whirlwind artifact?

[blazing fractal]

In anomalies

[haughty loom]

Thanks

[stiff pasture]

Gravity anomalies to be exact

[blazing fractal]

There is a site which tells you where every anomaly is with possible artifacts in them

[stray dock]

at what time are the enhanced versions releasing?

[blazing fractal]

Most likely midnight est

From what a mod told me

[stray dock]

not CET? 😦

[thorn ledge]

Do anomalies respaw?

[stiff pasture]

Artifacts? Yes they do

[thorn ledge]

Oh sorry. Yes artifacts. 😅

Thank you.

[stiff pasture]

after emissions, if given it a day or two afterwards to let them respawn

[blazing fractal]

From what ive seen emissions are few and far between

[stiff pasture]

Not really no, they’re just random most of the time

[blazing fractal]

Idk so far ive spent 80+ hours on s2 and ive only run into 4-5 not including scripted ones

[jolly solar]

i done that during 1.3. waiting for either more patches or for the SDK to drop

im i think mid way through the main story line or so as well so yeah

[dire dagger]

I mean what we got atm is maybe 40 percent of the game

[jolly solar]

you mean 40% of the bugs fixed

[blazing fractal]

Seems a bit steep no?

[dire dagger]

40 percent of the original content

[jolly solar]

lmao ig.

[celest blaze]

we are missing alot

[jolly solar]

im just waiting for stalker trillogy enchanced to drop at this point (and i wont even be able to dl it as im using limited data with my phone ;-;) and no internet till at least 30th may ;-;

[jolly solar]

would be nice to revisit the hospital ngl

[blazing fractal]

What a chad, a staff of gsc and shits on their product

[jolly solar]

nah just discord mod

[celest blaze]

we arent staff lol we dont get paid

[dire dagger]

I’m hyper critical because I want it to be good

[celest blaze]

same

[blazing fractal]

Same

[jolly solar]

who doesnt

[dire dagger]

Some people surprisingly

[celest blaze]

i want this game to be good i preordered deluxe cuz i thought it would be good..

[dire dagger]

Just be grateful we got a game at all stop complaining

[blazing fractal]

You get paid in recognition

[dire dagger]

I want to be paid in cold hard cash

[jolly solar]

my friend preordered the ultimate edition, also said if he manages to get the physical ultimate hes gonna give me the key... well he gave me the key and sent me pic of the physical edition

[dire dagger]

Look pal I got a cars to buy

And my time here is valuable I should be getting paid for it

[jolly solar]

hes still mad about having some nasty crashes so hes waiting till its 100% playable with no crashes or not as many bugs

[celest blaze]

i should be paid for being a veteran of the great snorking of 2025

[dire dagger]

Fr

[jolly solar]

and he has a pretty beast pc as well running 7700x and 7900 XTX

[dire dagger]

We clamped down hard

[jolly solar]

at least my point that there was way more to optimise when i first played was proven correct, from barely 30fps to now 60fps+ and only dips into 30's during seriously heavy fights

since i first tried it on gamepass (before he dropped me the key)

1.2 it was already WAY more than playable.

[blazing fractal]

They sent out the key when it came out

[blazing fractal]

Ill pay you to be my friend

[jolly solar]

yeah but he was buying it off his friend that also already preordered the ultimate edition and didnt want in the end the physical copy. so thats that 😂

[dire dagger]

ill tell you what buddy you can be my friend for free

[blazing fractal]

Ahh i got both steam ultimate and "physical" pc ultimate

[blazing fractal]

Pff free friends impossible

[jolly solar]

yeah also i activated the key 11th december and on steam it says "Preorder - Ultimate - Global - S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl" so kekw

got preorder when preorders were long closed

so at least i did not miss out on the stuff

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/chudlogic-chud-logic-evil-gang-evil-gif-11587451429599961940

[jolly solar]

yeah that thing is quite pricy, he lucked out as well as he tried to order it but could not get it from any shops in time, welp his friend came in clutch so thats pog

at that point it was so hard to get you would need to make a scalping bot to grab a copy only one gets up on the shops ;/

im happy as free 90€ game :^)

wait closer to 100€

at least the prices are not sky high for poland on steam compared to other games where PLN usually sits in top 5 most expensive countries for the games...

[blazing fractal]

Isnt brazil in that category?

[dire dagger]

brazil be like

100 percent electronics tax

[jolly solar]

-30% cheaper than in PL

[blazing fractal]

Thats why they gotta bot tf2 and cs2

[blazing fractal]

Really? Cost of living doesnt apply?

[dire dagger]

lmao

[coarse sparrow]

anyone else super hyped for the games to drop tmrw?

[signal bronze]

what game ?

[coarse sparrow]

enhanced stalkers

[blazing fractal]

Exo stalkers

[celest portal]

GSC where are my corn chips

[dim topaz]

Literally everyone on reddit whos ever posted the quit having fun meme or some "runs great for me/ this game is great for what it is, remember the originals cut a lot of content too44!!!!4!!" tier take

[blazing fractal]

Even if they cut alot of content still not an excuse to release a broken product

[heady lance]

Can someone help me out with a question on not sure if it has an answer though

[blazing fractal]

What is it?

[heady lance]

So when the enhanced edition releases for the original trilogy, on Xbox do I need to own the trilogy bundle to get the enhanced edition or is it fine if I own all three games but not the bundle will I still get the enhanced edition?

[blazing fractal]

You should get them for free if you already own them, i would assume xbox has the enhanced edition already as the lotz trilogy is new to xbox

[heady lance]

Ok thanks for your help

[thorn ledge]

It will be a separate game, or just a update for the currents games?

[heady lance]

I’m pretty sure a separate game

[celest goblet]

Already in my steam library as their own titles

[bright sky]

Any idea when stalker is gonna leave gamepass ?

[celest portal]

Haven't heard anything about the game leaving soon, so it's probably going to stay a while.

[bright sky]

I just see that it’s on sale for 20% off but usually when games leave gamepass it’s the same discount offered

[blazing fractal]

when the game is finished

[celest portal]

No idea, but you usually hear about it on what games are leaving the next month or something

[bright sky]

Haha yeah I haven’t even beat it yet I got my saves corrupted

[celest portal]

f

[blazing fractal]

f

[bright sky]

How do I blur stuff so I don’t accidentally get in trouble for saying wrong thing

[celest portal]

[blazing fractal]

||

[celest portal]

Oh you mean spoiler tagging

lol

[blazing fractal]

that and you use it like parantheses

||like this||

||||or this||||

[celest portal]

Luckily on pc it's easier

You just highlight text and click the eyeball icon

[celest portal]

If it's spoiler related thing though you should head over to #☢┃stalker-general

We're currently in no spoilers chat

[bright sky]

It’s just me talking a specific enemy and area I don’t know if that’s to bad of a spoiler

[celest portal]

I am not sure without context, but probably still safer in the other chat I tagged.

[blazing fractal]

ive spent to long chatting here today... hhhhhhh

[bright sky]

What’s ur definition of a spoiler like could a location and an enemy be an spoiler like for example saying the {bandits are tiresome}

[blazing fractal]

Just post it in general

[bright sky]

I don’t wanna get spoiled by going in there

[blazing fractal]

Nothing interesting rn

[celest portal]

Specific enemies or characters dying, unrevealed areas or loot, stuff like that.

But yeah nothing interesting going on in general chat right now

[bright sky]

I’ll say what I wanted to say over there then

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-hi-chat-chat-goodbye-chat-bye-chat-gif-24115546

[blazing fractal]

Morning handsomer jack

[sly matrix]

[worn oar]

[pseudo rivet]

Baldy

Owl

Sultan

Sidorovich

[celest portal]

Sidorovich

Korshonov

[sly matrix]

@nimble cipher guide

[celest portal]

Diodor

[versed jasper]

Decided to sneak into Pripyat and yeah... Found some really good gear, now I'm stacked

[coarse perch]

No, im also waiting since April 29th, i recommend to callout them in social media and request a chargeback in your bank

[celest portal]

Omg
Keith

[celest blaze]

omg
Keith

[eager onyx]

i hope that the ai will endup being just as good as the original

miss the different tactics it used

[undone sun]

Are the EE trilogy broken as it seems to be in Steam reviews?

[dire dagger]

I mean id believe it

[uncut pagoda]

guys, I'm dumb - how to start Wolf's auto quest?
I see the message about Roma Master, and that's all

[lament token]

It's very blurry for some reason, tried messing with some settings but I couldn't make it better

[dire dagger]

They got that n64 blur filter on

[manic sorrel]

Am I the only one or whole trilogy have broken saves?

[outer aurora]

You can't save the game right? They don't appear in the load save list.

Run the game as administrator, it worked for me.

[empty gorge]

ayo it true EE uses ai for enhancing visuals?

[celest goblet]

That's the belief anyway and I don't see a ton of reason to doubt it

[empty gorge]

holy L

if true

[vale quartz]

it's dogshit

just stick to ogs for now until... if they will ever fix it

[hazy helm]

plus its VERY clear the UI and some textures got ran thru a AI Upscaler

[empty gorge]

brother_ew.gif

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[empty gorge]

nobody asked for that wtf why

[dire dagger]

When we all thought it couldn’t get any worse

[gritty orchid]

Can't wait for stalker 3

[sly matrix]

I can't wait for our lord and savior Keith to grace us with his presence again

[dire dagger]

He can join us in being disappointed

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[dire dagger]

Ty bro

[celest blaze]

You too king

All we need is legends return 1.0 to drop

[pseudo rivet]

Thanks Chad

Have a great day

[midnight basalt]

Has anyone got mouse and keys working on series x LOTZ?

[gritty orchid]

Keith is very sad and disappointed so he won't be showing up today, he sent his cousin Pawel instead

[celest blaze]

Omg
Pawel

[crisp ruin]

Omg
Pawel

[dim topaz]

I just checked the reviews, mostly negative, wtf happened here?

[gritty orchid]

AI and broken saves from what I saw

Not to mention the horrendous modding guidelines limitations

[naive helm]

If you’re getting annoyed at AI being used for enhanced versions just remember that GSC is also working very hard at fixing the bug soup of stalker 2, they probably don’t have time to spend on more trivial matters

Of course, it would be better if it wasn’t AI

[near dove]

Is a life in the enhanced edition

[sly matrix]

Little Pawel is welcome

[warped rover]

What happened to my Russian voice acting in Clear sky enhanced 💔

[blazing fractal]

Censorship, propaganda etc

[willow quail]

What

[gritty orchid]

[dire dagger]

If you read the reviews you’ll see how much was removed or changed

[burnt swan]

I think background character 43 jumps off a ledge

[dire dagger]

It is very unfortunate

[warped rover]

is there a way to have ukrainian voice acting with the russian text

[dire dagger]

I’m sure a mod will release maybe or not

It’s not just text that was removed

Signs were also removed

[warped rover]

thats stupid

[dire dagger]

Like I don’t want to say it

But they kinda sanitized the zone from what has been reported

[warped rover]

like its less disgusting looking (disgusting in a good way)

[dire dagger]

No signs in Russian ussr symbolism things like that have been removed

At least that’s what’s been reported

[warped rover]

that just breaks emersion a lot

[dire dagger]

At least you got the originals

[warped rover]

i only have clear sky

[dire dagger]

You got the best one!!!!?

[warped rover]

Im playing them in order of lore and im stuck in the city that shall not be named because spoilers

but ima restart in enhanced version

[dire dagger]

I wouldn’t bother tbh

Far as I can tell direct downgrade

[warped rover]

my game was glitched

so ima try again in enhanced

[reef raptor]

place your bets
what will get fixed first fully a-life or the stalker enhanced edition

[magic coyote]

same shit

[warped rover]

фдкшпре

forgetting to switch keyboards lol

[magic coyote]

I love the fact that gsc people on the content creation channel think the negative reviews are Russian review bombing and ask content creators to whitewash this garbage

[blazing fractal]

Downgrade? Wdym, all they did was remove assets and add achievements

[zinc apex]

so how are the enhanced editions Stalgers?

[magic coyote]

so bad that GSC is asking content creators to whitewash their shit.

[zinc apex]

[magic coyote]

A content creator is sending me what they're telling, gsc, enough of making us look like fools.

[dire dagger]

And add blue lol

[zinc apex]

just started SoC. doesn't seem that bad lol

[blazing fractal]

Blue?

[dire dagger]

Blur

Phone be like I think you mean blue

[clear raft]

Cheeki Breeki got removed too.

[dire dagger]

Is it just gone completely

[clear raft]

I think they changed the audio too, so far bandits haven't used it. Kinda disappointing.

[blazing fractal]

You think ill get censored if i play it?

[warped rover]

wtf gsc 😭

[celest blaze]

I HATE censorship

[warped rover]

I agree with the negative reviews and what does remvoing the russian langauge even do

[fair jackal]

so what is the consensus on the enhanced editions?

[warped rover]

bad

[celest blaze]

We should remove English language for all the atrocities the English speaking nations commited

[fair jackal]

i saw a pic of the flora around Rookie Village and it looked alright, but other things with lighting as the focus looked worse? and what else did they do? needlessly remove anything in russian in the game?

[warped rover]

also remove ukrainian for the atrocities they did and only have esperanto used

[celest blaze]

How come Israelis can buy the game when they are cleansing gaza

Where do we really draw the line here lol

[warped rover]

that wouldnt be that bad

[celest blaze]

Why is this game sold in China when the CCP is has concentration camps filled with uyghurs

[warped rover]

Im just mad at GSC for this yes I get it russia is invading your country but it isnt just russia that people speak russian in

[celest blaze]

Fr man it's rhe Russian gov not the people

[warped rover]

all of the former soviet countries a lot of the population speak russian

[celest blaze]

Hell there's russians who protest against the invasion

[warped rover]

the russian government banned STALKER 2 from what I rmemeber

but removing the langauge is just stupid

[fair jackal]

man the reviews of SoC Downgraded are not pretty. someone even decided to make a positive review based on literally nothing about the game but jsut one of the devs who passed in the conflict.

[warped rover]

if they brought back the russian language less negative reviews would be there

[clear raft]

Yeah it's literally bad, I'm uninstalling. All we can hope is the community fixes the De-masters with mods.

[late yarrow]

Someone posted in trilogy screenshots that it’s still in the game

[warped rover]

the steam workshop is the only reason ill ever play now

[fair jackal]

cannot see myself touching these. i've only played through SoC and CS 2 times each and CoP once. but like, this just sounds bad and i am so tired of games coming out only to be terribly optimised and running like ass.

[dire dagger]

Alright bro

You need to chill

[celest blaze]

I'm just tired of this stupid Russian xenophobia

People have gone to jail protesting against it

[dire dagger]

We are not the arbiters of change

[celest blaze]

Gsc can't call people russians for speaking against obvious flaws

[dire dagger]

We are just unpaid interns

[celest blaze]

Fr but still I don't support that kinda stuff it's wack man

[warped rover]

a couple of my fdmaily members and friends were sent to prison protesting against my regime

[celest blaze]

They are heros man

[warped rover]

one of my friends was sent to prison for 5 years because she visited her grandmother in ukraine

[celest blaze]

I don't like GSC using the war as a cover for criticisms

[celest blaze]

Holy thats horrible

[warped rover]

they almost sent my grandmother to 1 year in prison because she was subscibed to an oppisitionist article luckily she only did a week and the place they imprisoned her was known for human rightds violations

such as there not being any heating in the winter

[celest blaze]

Good lord man thats horrifying

[clear raft]

It's almost war profiteering. Blaming your incompetence on the war and death of your country men/women is just in poor taste.

[warped rover]

does anybody who isnt a nationalist?

[granite mortar]

Most of the studio left almost immidiately
Yet it took them three more years to release the game and it was still unfinished
Its not even a good excuse

[orchid gale]

Sounds like we’re back to week two of release fellas

Where’s the 5 min timer

[stiff pasture]

Seems like the usual dudes burnt out already

[orchid gale]

A-life when?

[warped rover]

also in enhanced thingy it seems the pistols actaully do damabe

[orchid gale]

Yo, how’s the bulba continent looking ?

[warped rover]

bulbastan?

[warped rover]

ima go to my native channel of en offtop

[orchid gale]

Yes haha

[blazing fractal]

When i get my prostate checked

[worn oar]

[orchid gale]

10$ and we can do that rn

[blazing fractal]

Its not about the money

[orchid gale]

But if you dont pay me I might fall In Love Fr

[storm kernel]

You ever wonder what happens when you mix a burner anomaly with chicken?

B-b-b-burner! Ch-ch-ch-chicken! Strelok's burner chicken yeah it's tasty as hell!

[cloud basin]

any admin or mods available to help me get the enhanced giveaway game code that i won i dont have a message for a code.

[dim topaz]

Thing is nobody asked for a remaster

So it's like, if they're gonna half-arse it what's the point

[fair cipher]

Same

[clear raft]

Because it takes dev time away from Stalker 2 and it's an easy cash grab.

[dim topaz]

Which... they gave away for free anyway

[clear raft]

Only if you bought it already.

[blazing fractal]

Not a remaster

[dim topaz]

It's just words at this point, you know what I meant

[mellow bridge]

Is AI life in the game yet? is this booty fixed?

[ember summit]

Not quite 2.0 at this point yet but its better than what it was at launch.

[dire dagger]

demaster

[blazing fractal]

unmaster

[celest portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-talking-ben-gif-24982337

Me trying to hold it all in

[dire dagger]

think its too late for us

we are all cooked

[undone scaffold]

Releasing a 'remaster' just to remove all references to the USSR and Russia in a post-Soviet apocalyptic environment is an interesting move

[celest portal]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life2-gman-gif-25087297

[dire dagger]

rome has fallen its jover

[celest blaze]

Rome fell and im all thats left standing..

[dire dagger]

we are all gonna fall too

we were too honest

[celest blaze]

I will be crucified infront of all of you to set an example..

[dire dagger]

as will i

[celest blaze]

Atleast we go together..

[dire dagger]

im reminded of how small we really are when these games dropped and no one is talking about it on youtube

[celest blaze]

Right? Man it's wild

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[dim topaz]

They even did a halfarsed job with the censorship. Should have removed the CNPP while they're at it

Altho I guess they did that with Stalker 2 huh

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/suckhole-lemmings-gif-15417110

[orchid gale]

I’m about to freak it DISRESPECTFULLY

Nvm I had a change of heart

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[celest portal]

Omg
Pawel

[blissful snow]

The decision to remove the references is a part of the massive and long-lasting Ukrainian process of decolonization — both societal and personal, whereby decolonization I mean a review of actions, actors and events that interfered and interfere with Ukrainian nation building a safe and independent democratic state, accompanied by changes in attitudes towards those actions, actors and events in order to secure safety and independence in the now and in future. This process happens with regard to countries' physical spaces (for example streets, buildings), it happens with regard to mental spaces (for example, arriving at what it means to call yourself a Ukrainian), and it happens with regard to cultural virtual spaces. The Stalker game universe is, perhaps, the most prominent example of decolonization in the cultural virtual space, which at the same time draws a lot of attention inside the country — during the years preceding the Russian federation's full-scale invasion it was increasingly problematized that the most iconic game, perhaps even the most iconic popcultural product of independent Ukraine depicted a reality where all characters spoke Russian, where the currency was rubles and where the player was a thug killing Ukrainian soldiers, while all this was happening in areas garnished by Soviet symbols. From within Ukraine, over the years this symbology increasingly became viewed equal to the Nazi swastika — a symbol of occupation, of repressions, of very cruel violence against those who sought safe democratic independence for the Ukrainian nation. At the time, it is a painful reminder of what was lost.

As such, considering this context and considering that all devs were affected by the war, during which the Russian federation continuously invokes Soviet symbols and references in their propaganda as a justification for the violence and as a part of the argument that the Ukrainian nation "are misguided Russians" — considering all this, actions done by the devs should be viewed as a part of the process of their personal decolonization, where they looked back at their product and realized that their decisions with regard to how to shape the universe were substantially affected by them being representatives of a quite successful and long-lasting colonization campaign, where national identity was repressed and substituted with an imposed by the imperial surrogate.

In summary, I understand that from an external to Ukraine perspective, the decision to remove symbols and references may appear confusing. But from within Ukraine, knowing the relevant context, what the devs did comes across as a statement of a politically mature group of Ukrainian citizens, who developed in their personal process of decolonization to the extent that they were able to reappraise their work and deconstruct it according to more independent personal values and goals. From within Ukraine, such a decision will be highly praised.

[marsh pond]

Good grace then I can see less chirping 😂

[spiral stump]

pretty based

[sand fiber]

chat gpt yourself

[pseudo rivet]

Is that politics I smell?

Eh, in this case, GSC brought it on themselves

[empty gorge]

yeah watabout it? a rule is no politics but what if gsc starts it?

what da mod team doing huh? what side they on?

[celest portal]

I say leave it up

good essay

-1 point for capital R tho

A+ otherwise

[pseudo rivet]

The right side

[dim topaz]

Imm ask chat gpt sum it up in 10 words brb

[sly matrix]

Mods are here to keep the community healthy and welcoming to stalker enthusiasts, so that's what I'll keep doing for now

[gritty orchid]

\s

[ripe patrol]

Based mods

[celest blaze]

What a wild thing to say

im actually surpised gsc didnt ban your name due to links to do being commie

[marsh pond]

oh i just like it cause it reminds me of a song from dayz days 😄

[celest blaze]

oh haha id check it out im always down for new music

[marsh pond]

Tri Poloski 😄 three stripes

[celest blaze]

thank you

[marsh pond]

yee i just changed it up but its just a reminder of that song and np

[empty gorge]

also missing a t

[marsh pond]

i did see someone in game with the surname trotsky, well pvt trotsky or something lol

[normal comet]

trosky

[empty gorge]

cant be, doesnt exist such name

[keen bone]

I think you should, if you don't mind, make a post along these lines on Reddit. The Stalker subreddit. I immediately thought GSC's decision for changing stuff has reasons related to Ukranian identity, I think if you made a post along those lines that'd help calm people down getting mad about the changes calling it censorship

I personally immediately thought, they've changed that stuff for reason and I don't mind if they want to change things, its their game after all

[celest goblet]

I'm certainly open to those sorts of arguments. I guess from my perspective I would have appreciated the removal of Soviet either being more seamlessly done or accompanied by replacements that are original to the setting in some way

[sand fiber]

this sort of argument is stupid if you think about where the game happens and what its themes are for a second

i am not sure what the thought process behind all the EE changes was, and i'm not talking about "censorship", it's kinda insane

[celest goblet]

It definitely feels artistically compromising to the original game at least but I can appreciate that it may be hard to wrestle with

[sand fiber]

i do oppose those changes thinkin bout it, but like, it's far from the number one issue with the port, it's just another indicator of a larger problem behind it
it's an insane clusterfuсk of poor decisions and maddening non-logic, all the changes are inconsistent and random, before you even approach the question of artistic integrity there are tens of other questions starting from the simple "why does this even exist"

[celest goblet]

Yeah it seems like a fraction of the effort it deserved was put in

Which pains me to say, but SoC deserves the white glove treatment for any sort of rerelease

[summer stream]

Reddit is home to the most sad, lonely, insufferable low life’s on earth. It doesn’t really matter what you write there, they will always complain or tear it apart

[wise flume]

Cesspit.

[keen bone]

yeah but u gotta try to communicate anyway!!

[worn oar]

I saw your name on the giveaway winners' list! Congrats

[marsh pond]

Ty lol

Didn't think I'd win tbh lol

[worn oar]

Yeah

[granite mortar]

There was a giveaway?

[worn oar]

Name poll was quite big

[worn oar]

Yeah, yesterday ig

[granite mortar]

Joever

[clear raft]

🤔 if you remaster a title but heavily censor it and it runs worse, does that make it a "De-master"?

[granite mortar]

It makes it a dogshit game

[lament token]

The original games are not even visible on Steam anymore bruh

[celest blaze]

You can still buy them when you get the enhanced editions

[lament token]

Interesting. Well I have the games already but I found it very odd

[glass wave]

is the game playable now?

[summer cliff]

What's unplayable for you?

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/hannigram-hannibal-gif-20295593

[granite mortar]

They are on GOG tho
Common GOG win

[lament token]

Indeed

[coarse sparrow]

sup lads, what's this discord consensus on the enhanced stalkers? W or L?

[gritty orchid]

i see a wall of text = ignored \s

[gritty orchid]

mostly L from what i could gather x)

[coarse sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/yeltsin-boris-russia-baza-base-gif-16047367072139774216

[dire dagger]

Atm major L

[granite mortar]

Omg hi Jack

[blissful snow]

I followed your advice, expanded the text and made the publication on Reddit. Thank you for the encouragement 🙂
https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/s/kVo8BvVOpY

[dire dagger]

What up

[granite mortar]

Ive found out that theres actually a decent PC store
They even have good discount
Ive seen a 5070 prebuilt discounted to 1500 bucks in their physical store

So thats cool
Their part picker is also very good compared to the competition

[keen bone]

Much appreciated man, I can see it's immediately getting hella upvotes. I think it's important other players not in this Discord have a better understanding why that content was changed. Thanks for educating me, I don't know a lot about SU/Russia/Ukraine history and I'm sure others will appreciate learning

[sand fiber]

dread delusion pfp and such horrible takes?? oh my god....

virtual decolonization is when you butcher a game that's about mid 00s ukraine and life in it

[keen bone]

removing a statue is not butchering a game lmao, so dramatic

[sand fiber]

and "virtual decolonization" isn't

[keen bone]

When it's made by a Ukrainian developer who had their staff members die taking part in the war effort, no. Not at all.

[sand fiber]

yes that absolutely has something to do with the artistic integrity of the original trilogy

[dire dagger]

It’s pointless censorship

The real life zone

Stands as a mocker of the Soviet system and everything it stood for

[keen bone]

They clearly don't think it is

[dire dagger]

As it was the Soviet system that allowed such a disaster to happen

[dire dagger]

Well most everyone else disagrees

The statues and signs

Are real

They exist in real life

[keen bone]

Everyone else isn't the people who made the game in the first place. so they can do whatever they like

[dire dagger]

Damn right and so we will rightfully complain about it

[sand fiber]

new GSC is unrelated to anyone who made the trilogy

[dire dagger]

The problem stems from them not censoring the stuff in question

But just deleting it

[sand fiber]

look the people who made the trilogy were hardcore ukrainians back during the orange fuсking revolution, but they weren't stupid and were artists, that's why the games are what they are

[dire dagger]

If they decided to replace them with Ukrainian signs for example

[ember summit]

It was the C-Con that made the OG trilogy.

[dire dagger]

The amount of complaining would be far less intense

Yah boo hoo the real ones are Russian but

At least they’re still there

But that’s not what they did

[coarse sparrow]

I should ask Mol1t about S2 point shop one day, been 6 months already

[fleet cosmos]

How far out do enemies render?

[coarse sparrow]

not far, prolly 100m range give or take

[fleet cosmos]

That’s it? So we still don’t have full A Life 2.0? I changed my settings in the Engine file so now my game at least doesn’t have pop-in foliage/looks MUCH better/less distracting. But enemies are still set to 100m? Think this will ever change?

[coarse sparrow]

yeah, its even funnier, in Zaton during one of the side quests I think with sniper rifle, I couldn't assassinate one or two targets because them dudes wouldn't render. Reasons? Idk, prolly an UE thing

[supple wedge]

At least to the 150m to original games had would help a lot I think.

1.4 combat AI is great though.

[fleet cosmos]

I mean, the game did release on console so lets be real.....

so will we ever see PC get longer render distances for enemies? i feel it's all based on console (slowest kids in the class if you will)

[worn oar]

Yeah, it's way better than before

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/black-sabbath-war-pigs-generals-gathered-in-their-masses-cat-meme-gif-1611228286684552165

[mellow locust]

I uninstalled the game immediately after the last update because performance took such big hit for me and the game was running better with update 1.2. Fsr 4 is doing nothing for the game performancewise and sitting at 60-70 fps with frame gen on on high to medium settings on random points of interest and reaching 45 fps with frame gen on at slagheap is just too much. Its ridiculous.

And on top the shimmer of even ultra setting lumen is so distracting. After playing expedition 33 and other games in ue5 i realised how bad stalker 2's lighting implementation is.

30 people outplay 400 people on the graphics tech side is crazy

[upbeat hedge]

They are using very outdated version of UE5

[grim palm]

[supple wedge]

I felt like the cpu performance ironed out after 1.4.
Can't say I ran the numbers though, so it might be placebo. Framerate is locked at 60 with no framegen

Lumen I find to be mostly fine on epic. The main issue I've found is the grass in the game will flicker in certain lighting conditions with certain levels of dlss.

DLSS quality (what I use) it's not that noticable, but anything lower it definitely is. To the point where TSR is better, as it doesn't have the issue.

[grim palm]

It got dithering (why things flicker) on most objects (like grass and trees) and used TAA to smooth that out (vaseline). You can turn off TAA. But I don't think you can turn off dithering. Think that's run on UE5 native.

[supple wedge]

I don't mind the dithering, I'm sure it helps a lot with overdraw or something, I just figure there should be a way to solve the flickering temporally with DLSS.

[grim palm]

https://youtu.be/5LvxG5zbSK0?si=nGaDNnG_UcFCPHu_

[supple wedge]

No thanks

[grim palm]

Video talks about Stalker 2 at couple points

[supple wedge]

I've already seen enough of those videos

[grim palm]

It's solved with TAA

[supple wedge]

Yeah, but then you lose the benefits of DLSS. Like I said, TSR fixes it.
But neither TAA or TSR are as stable as DLSS in most other areas.

[grim palm]

DLSS just upscales from a lower resolution than your set resolution. While TAA upscales above your set resolution and blurs the image. MSAA does the same, just more expensive.

DLSS and TAA is like applying vaseline to a pixelated image

[supple wedge]

Yeah, but tsr scales up, and that doesn't have the issue

[grim palm]

Probably cause it's run native UE5. Not that familiar with Temporal Super Resolution

[mellow locust]

I believe that. thats for sure and since they said they won't update it I figure that their base game construct is so convoluted that it would be a nightmare and could have millions of unforseen consequences because the game is build very brittle.

[supple wedge]

Not changing base engines is pretty common for game studios. GSC aren't the exception, they just would have hit some poor timing.

[mellow locust]

what do you mean with base engine? its the same engine. its updated. a lot of studios do update to a new version of UE5 especially if they can profit on it. only studios were the game runs fine and has no need for it or are so fragile in their structure that an update would most likely take months and months to fix all the bugs just to make it work again, don't do it. (or when its more work than its worth)

[supple wedge]

Base engine as in, what they are working upon in UE5.

I worked for a studio using unreal, there was a "no engine updates" point of no return. It's a thing.

[grim palm]

It is it's own fork of UE5 (version 5.1) Heavily customised. Probably can't update with newer Epic fixes like mega lights or lumen fixes.

[mellow locust]

problem is often custom code or custom plugins they use the make certain game aspects possible. they can become incompatible real quick. So I get that though expedition 33 for example was developed on since 2020 UE 5 was revealed at 2020 stalker 2 seems to be in dev for 2 years longer than that and they made the jump to UE5. Though Expedition 33 devs managed to create a crazy good looking game that performs quite well (I know, no open world ect ect ect, but there are other games that have less performance problems than stalker 2 has and run on UE5 with more going on)

[mellow locust]

yeah I though that. Still I hope that they are able to iron out the performance problems.

[grim palm]

I think nanite was fixed to include environmentals like bushes and trees too, making it even easier to display high quality models without heavily impacting performance

Unfortunately I don't think Stalker 2 will see those fixes

[willow quail]

They can, but this need an hard work to migrate to the newer version

Upgrading to 5.6 will be more than an significant update

Performances, stability, many problems will be fixed

[grim palm]

Absolutely

[worn oar]

Not possible until the base game is in an enough good state to meddle and attempt upgrading to newer version of the engine. It would be a hell of a work if ever done. Who knows, maybe it would happen in the future, maybe not. At least to my knowledge ( #📜┃gsc-answers ) and if I'm not mistaken, there is no plan for such a thing for now.

Again, these are my words, so I don't know any more than you all do concerning this matter

[fast stratus]

multiplayer when

[worn oar]

[wraith socket]

multiuniverse when

[worn oar]

Tmrw

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[analog helm]

Expedition 33 is a bad example, because its performance is abhorrent (at least on 4070 Ti Super).
1440p/Epic - Avg 52-54 FPS with 1% lows ~39-20.
Meanwhile Stalker 2 (same settings) - 67-71 FPS and lows around 43.
And that is for the game which is 1) not open-world 2) does not have a dynamic day-night cycle (which means they can just bake all the lightmaps for each location and call it a day...).

the only game with worse performance on UE5 I can remember is Alan Wake 2 (but that is because they rely on ray-tracing so heavily, from what I understand)

[mellow locust]

For me stalker 2 lows around 25 fps in slag heap and even around normal points of interest its at 40 fps its only going to 60 or 70 in the wilderness. In expedition i can just lower 1-3 settings and have stable 60 fps meanwhile even setting stalker 2 to medium settings has maybe 15% performance improvement

Stalker 2 is way worse than expedition 33.

[analog helm]

what card do you have?

and CPU - it's a common knowledge that Stalker is CPU bottlenecked in the areas with NPCs, but that has little to do with UE5 or graphics really

[mellow locust]

9070 xt

[analog helm]

you play 4K?

[mellow locust]

But its more of a cpu issue because it doesn't matter if its 1440p or 1080p the performance near npcs is all the same. I have a i7 12700 kf cpu

[analog helm]

yeah, definitely looks like it. But then migrating to newer version of UE5 most likely won't improve your situation... (it's JRPG AI vs ALife 0.6 diff)

simulating NPCs going to pee under a shed in the rookie village takes CPU cycles, you know...

[finite dragon]

What to do when powerplug doesn't give you the suit?

[mellow locust]

I mean the old games and gamma are also able to manage the npcs under the hood so i don't know what to say about that

[supple wedge]

The old games used to have awful traversal stutter due to Alife swapping.
Was fixed with the Enhanced Edition from what I played.

[analog helm]

Old games were instance-based (there were loading screens everywhere) and much much smaller in scale. And the unscripted encounters where smaller and less common. Investigating crash sites in CoP could feel like a fetch quest running from location to location with only a single tiny encounter in 20 minutes (depending how lucky you are).

[dire dagger]

🤨

Did you guys see the xray 2.0 project went open source

[vale quartz]

What does this mean for the tf2 community?

[dire dagger]

Tf2 is now coming to X-ray engine

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[mellow locust]

Doesn't matter for my point. Npcs are mostly offline in stalker 2 so was it in the trilogy. Even beyond the instances the offline Npcs were simulated. And even if it was an instance but standing on one spot in the trilogy with dozens of npcs didn't had as much of a performance impact like 4 people in stalker 2

[rancid zephyr]

Hello, I made a strange discovery today. I found an artifact that looks like a loaf of bread, with maximum radioactivity. What should I do with it now? Is this a game bug? It's called "sid_items_PArtifactBrain_name."

[urban basin]

Alan wake 2 isnt UE5

[analog helm]

looked it up - you are right

[ember summit]

Sell it asap.

[rancid zephyr]

what is asap ?

[marsh pond]

as soon as possible

[rancid zephyr]

ahh alright thanks

[celest goblet]

Also I don't remember that game ever running badly

[placid spade]

did anybody find until now the "heart of chernobyl"?

[faint notch]

The heart of Chernobyl was the purchase decision regrets we made along the way 😌

[empty echo]

turns out the heart of Chornobyl was the heart inside us all

[placid spade]

I doubt that

it sounds similar like "heart of the ocean" from movie titanic

[dire dagger]

https://github.com/bazik210/xray_2

Who’s gonna add hw ray tracing

[crisp ruin]

yeah it's happening

[dire dagger]

[granite mortar]

Werent the sources to Xray 2.0 public for years at this point?

[dire dagger]

From what I understand they were not complete

So this is a public release of i guess more completed xray 2.0

[granite mortar]

Ohh
Cool
(IX-Ray still better)

[dire dagger]

For now

But X-ray 2.0 is a more advanced engine

At Least on paper

Isn’t exactly an example game to look at since it never got used

[celest blaze]

@jekan please..

[graceful hill]

what's the difference between IX ray and open xray? first time i've heard of IX

[granite mortar]

Different team and vision
IX-Ray also gets large full releases more often
OXR mostly gets beta releases

[graceful hill]

what makes you say IX is the best atm?

[granite mortar]

I like it the most
Has the coolest features and most promising mods built on it
Its also developed as a full platform
Not just an engine
You can enable lot of cool things by editing single config file
Stuff like mutant inventories
Forced walk when reloading
Etc
Also has very cool official addons, like Puddle addon
Which makes volumetric puddles appear during rain
And its super easy to set up for modded maps too

[graceful hill]

oh interesting, i rlly need to catch up on stalker mods lol there's too many

[willow quail]

Upgrading Unreal engine can be possible, you just need to make your asset /code compatible with the newer version.

I have already do it, it's just taking times to make it compatible, the question is :

GSC would like to take 3 weeks to upgrade to the Unreal engine version?

[hazy helm]

woudlnt it be better to only do that once GSC has finished fixing the game to a acceptable degree as opposed to doing hacky upgrades while entire mehcanics with AI are being reworked?

[willow quail]

That depend the GSC priorities. But yes in the situation or Stalker 2, it better to fix the game first and after upgrade Unreal engine version I am totally agree!

But remind that optimization is also one of the priorities that GSC should do.

Between 5.1 and 5.6 (just released as preview last week)

Lumen, Nanite and TSR has been highly changed and optimized.
Also many features came out, the engine is more stable 3 year ago.

When people talked about Unreal engine how bad is optimized, it's because when you create a project, you create with a specific Unreal version.

GSC started created S2 with 5.1 released in 2022.

But now if they but labor and times and effort to upgrade to the newer, 5.6
It will be a significant upgrade to the game.

More features for dev (like bios mode introduced in 5.4, I test it and it work like magic) and also more optimized and more stable.

Yes, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 is the first versions of Unreal engine, but the engine has been upgraded.

When I start dev I remember how bad optimized was procedural in 5.2

Unreal engine is better than 3 year ago.

So yeah today, if GSC want to migrate (what I highly recommend because 5.1 it's kinda old and it's the second version of Unreal engine 5)
It would takes many times to them but It would help them later and help the community with a stable engine version.

Maybe in 1.6 or 1.7 update they should upgrade the engine

[hazy helm]

I think

their priorities

should to be

fix the game

as soon as

possible

[latent kite]

[willow quail]

Yes

But fixing is bug and crashes for you?

If yes, so yeah is there priorities

[stiff pasture]

Personally I think an engine upgrade should wait until the first DLC at the earliest lmao, there’s a lot more that needs fixing and implementation (stability, Mod support, NVGs and binoculars etc)

[willow quail]

Lol, DLC... The game is buggy and poorly optimized and they want to make a DLC?

the base game is cost 60$ and they want to get DLC when today the game is not stable?

It's a joke..

[latent kite]

a joke

[willow quail]

Bruh you will need to wait 5 month until dlc's side quest being stable
Lol

[keen bone]

They've spent 6 months patching 5k bugs with more on the way, adding more features and SDK support so idk what else you want

[hazy helm]

the things they promised us

I think they should sort out their A-Life situation before they go upgrading engines since that is a pretty big system that will no doubt give you problems if you are making it in the middle of adapting updates manually

[mellow locust]

what a wonderful display of the attitude that destroys studios. Because if people follow through your advice the studio doesn't earn money in the future.

[keen bone]

Made a very big typo there lol, edited when I meant to reply

[keen bone]

oh you're one of those 🥱 just play something else then if you're that offended

[hazy helm]

offended? the only thing I feel is pity that I must meet with such a person

[mellow locust]

anyway, they should fix the game. If I have a satisfying stalker 2 game in the end of their struggles, then I am happy. If they never make up for it and leave the game as a buggy mess that has lots of performance problems, then I am very disappointed. I would love to see a lords of the fallen situation at least.

[hazy helm]

considering their plans I don't believe theyll leave it as is, that would be completely studio crushing

[mellow locust]

of course not as is, but I expect to have a well working game in the end, a satisfying experience, even though we are essentially having an early access situation here at the moment. Right now the game is a pure compromise its yeah a good game actually an 8/10 in theory but is becoming a 6/10 due to all the bugs and bad performance. Its like a good cheese but damn there is the bad kind of mold on it. I can cut away the mold and eat the cheese with the disgust in the back of my head or leave it. But honestly I want a cheese without mold and without thinking about having to compromise for the money I payed and the time I spent

[keen bone]

I think they're still in the bug fixing stages given 1.4 patch note was still like '500+ bugs fixed'. Once that's 100% out the way they can switch their focus to A-Life

I hoped on 1.3 we were near the end when the bugs dropped to like 300+ but nvm

I think the bugs make it difficult for GSC to tell if they're making A-Life better or worse. I did hope by now they would make more progress on that front, but it's getting there. One bugs are fully out of the way they can shift 100% onto A-Life

[ember summit]

I think in the end, for the best of both worlds, they’re gonna have to do A-Life configs separate for both PC and console versions, otherwise it’s gonna limit the PC users further but if they use the same configs PC processors can handle on a console processor it might not handle the strain as well.

[keen bone]

I 100% agree, that'd be a great solution

[ember summit]

Think about it for a second, I have an i7 9750H processor, ain’t the best one out there by a long shot but it’s obviously enough to run the OGs modded but even playing GAMMA/Anomaly/CoC if you put the stalker and mutant population up too high, I get mad stutters due to processor trying to load everything in a map. That’s only one map for the online A-Life btw, now imagine that happening on the scale of the map the size of s2.. if it was to work the same way as the OGs you’d need a NASA computer to play.

[hazy helm]

aare you assuming that the entire map's AI will be fully renderer in full memory as tho you are witnessing it?

I mean yhea if they did that, they would be hyper mega dumb

[stiff pasture]

PC’s would be turning into shrapnel at that point

Never mind consoles

[ember summit]

I’d imagine it would still be some form of online and offline A-Life system again tbh.

[hazy helm]

inside maps AI will be loaded fully but outside of maps AI functions on a diferent set of decisions, that is so say, inside the map you witness Online A-Life, outside of it it uses Offline A-Life, what you should be doing is merging that system with the spawn bubble, have the entire map use AI in a Offline configuration that gets loaded in and destroyed/swapped for a Online configuration when inside the spawn bubble

best case scenario

[ember summit]

Even that sounds easier said than done tbh. Wouldn’t that also still feel like you only engage with enemies near POIs? Rather than casually stumbling across a Bandit patrol or some Loners looking for Artefacts.

[hazy helm]

no because the AI isn't being spawned by the bubble, it gets activated once it hits the bubble, either bc you moved towards it or because it bumped into the bubble, after that it is up to the developer to fill the Offline AI behaviour with enuff scripts, objectives, actions to make AI feel free and alive

[ember summit]

Sounds similar to how smart terrains work.. but yeah sounds like a much better system than the one that’s in place atm, Zone just doesn’t feel alive enough. Especially the later areas.

[hazy helm]

I mean, bc it is a best case scenario adaptation of how Stalker does it

[ember summit]

For sure. It’s definitely a delicate system to get it right as well though, too much processing and it will make the game run even worse, not enough and the Zone feels dead.

Again it will need further adjustments to it for console versions, at least, that’s what I think they should do to get the best out of A-Life 2.0

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleeping-cat-eepy-cat-eepy-kitty-gif-11184483905395278742

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[warped herald]

Well migrating is maybe an optimistic term for the upgrade of UE version.
It's very likely the engine code itself has been modified to fit the game needs and it then becomes much harder

[willow quail]

C++ is C++, upgrading the UE version will not break your C++ code

The only thing is asset and engine settings who need to be upgrade, but it's not hard, it's just taking times to re importe

[warped herald]

I'm not talking about game code, but modified source code of the engine. Not gameplay code, engine code, forked from epic game's source

[willow quail]

Oh, so it's there problem if they touched to the engine itself

[warped herald]

Yea but realistically most big games must do some changes to engine code at some point to fit their needs tbh

[willow quail]

Yeah.. So they may won't upgrade to 5.6 because they d'ont want to lose there work.

That's sad, UE has been highly improved and we can't benefit it in S2

[warped herald]

Yea it has improved a LOT. Depends, maybe maybe not, but it's probably much harder than when you or me update our UE version since we only have gameplay code to take care of 😅

[willow quail]

Yeah 😅

[latent jolt]

people bought preorders for dlcs theyre contractually obligated to put them out

idc if you dont have a season pass and dont care but thats just how it is

[willow quail]

So they create a dlc before released a stable game.. Interesting, that's literally AAA economic model

[dire dagger]

The pressing question is

Will cut content become dlc

[willow quail]

average EA games

[dire dagger]

More so Ubisoft

But yes

[willow quail]

Yeah, both

[latent jolt]

idk if you realise this but mappers and writers cannot fix bugs and engine issues

[dire dagger]

You think that’s the only people making a dlc

[latent jolt]

unlikely but thats the vast majority of them

[willow quail]

And that's the problem, they prefer to make profit instead a good game

Profite came after a good game, that's the good way that should GSC take.

[latent jolt]

youre just being unrealistic

the mappers are still in the company wtf are they supposed to do, learn how to program and add even more bugs to the game?

[willow quail]

And they should fixes bug and upgrade Unreal engine version

[willow quail]

Bro the dlc is just a new map or what? 💀

[latent jolt]

theyre still being paid, or do you want them to get fired like in all AAA studios

[latent jolt]

yes....

[willow quail]

So no side quest, interesting...

[latent jolt]

mappers is just an example writers, artists and many other devs exist

no reason to fixate on one dev team

[willow quail]

There is many task out of the engine to do

[latent jolt]

yes and not so many developers

yet steam has strict rules for releasing promised dlc on time

[willow quail]

If they upgrade to Unreal engine version, they d'ont have access in a few days and start after when the upgrade has been made and programmers adapted the code

[willow quail]

"Do not promised something that you are not sure to do"

[bright elbow]

Hi

[willow quail]

Hii!!

[bright elbow]

What is the up

Just started shadow of chernobyl off of the ps premium store

[willow quail]

Fine, we are just talking about dev organization.

[bright elbow]

Cool stuff

[willow quail]

Nice, it's great

[latent jolt]

theyre likely contractually obligated due to a deal with microsoft to do that so its a no-win situation

[willow quail]

Ah shit, Microsoft, these company are everywhere to come with there shit.
Every times when studios become dependant they starting to make shit.

Independant studio are making great...why GSC? Not them... We love them...

[latent jolt]

there was no other way to put out the game other than a kickstarter but that would mean that the development wouldnt have made it through the war

or looking for other private investors that wouldnt be much either

[willow quail]

That's sad, but true..

[latent jolt]

its a bad situation GSC have put themselves in, but theyre trying to make the most of it too, and as players we have to enjoy the game for what it is. the story is great, the map itself is really good albeit with some inconsistensies, and the rest is mostly servicable

[willow quail]

Yeah, the game, but can be highly improved, and they just need times.
And they need money so they can't report to much the game release

I report a few bug to GSC and I am patient.

I know how much is hard to debug every single bug, sometimes it taking days because of restructuring the code.

[latent jolt]

no reason to flame GSC and stir the pot for the trolls who just need something to be angry at then

[willow quail]

Sure, GSC has there advantages and desadvantages

But in a few months
/year I am sure that S2 will be a banger

[lean crystal]

I just saw a Stalker 2 comparison video from all the trailers and gameplay we were shown versus what we got, holy crap we got scammed...

I love this series but wow

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Downgrades - Promises vs Reality by ZoneSlug if you want to watch it yourself, its an honest, not insulting just factual showcase of what we got vs what was promised

Even that UE4 trailer where the darker atmosphere that looked so beautiful compared to the release

[teal swallow]

Is it possible for an older engine to be better than what they already have?

[celest blaze]

Yes technically

Older doesnt automatically equal worse

[supple wedge]

Alife has room to complain, but atmosphere? They nailed it.

[craggy radish]

The turning with a joystick is painfully slow, even when the sensitivity is cranked to the max

Also I think reloading a save is reapplying the vodka effect? Because I have died in the intro mission like 3 times cuz of the electricity that appears after the scanner is done and it’s making skif more and more drunk after I reload the save

[nimble cipher]

sundance967 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[craggy radish]

I finished the intro mission, need to head to Zallisya, and I’m still drunk and wobbling around

Reloading to before I drank the ONE vodka I’ve had this game is probably a better idea because this effect isn’t going away

[craggy radish]

I reloaded the first auto save I had which is before I even got any kind of vodka, and I was STILL drunk

[lean crystal]

Did you watch the video though? I've been playing the OG games too recently, and I can see what the video is explaining, I think it's UE5 and it's very bright at times. Stalker 2 does have great atmosphere, but comparing to what they showed off it is night and day difference.

[supple wedge]

And there are plenty of people saying the game is too dark as well.
The reality is the game has astonishing atmosphere. Zoneslug picks out only negative details, and doesn't even try to match tod and weather to the game at release.

And I'm not surprised. Grifting gets views.

[lean crystal]

I mean it's not really grifting, it's just showing the game in its current state versus what was revealed to players, as well as the actual A-Life statements that were given

[supple wedge]

When was the last time zoneslug made a video outlining what is improved in stalker 2?

Over previous games and trailers

[lean crystal]

Buddy, it's not really about Zoneslug, it's about if that is representative of the game versus what was shown in trailers and stated by the development team

[supple wedge]

Stuff changes. That's game development.

[lean crystal]

I've played since 1.4 dropped, enjoying my time with it, but it still isn't what was shown off, and after just beating some of the originals, there are for sure things missing

[supple wedge]

Overall the game doesn't look worse

[lean crystal]

Lol, this is post-release

[supple wedge]

The trailer was pre release

[lean crystal]

Yes and trailers are representative of a vision or end-product which I don't think quite hits the same in the released version. I'm not saying it's bad I'm saying it's so much more beautiful in the rendition they showed off in the trailer

As in, closer to a true vision of the zone IMO

[supple wedge]

And I'm saying I disagree.

[lean crystal]

That's fine, you don't have to agree that it's not as beautiful as release, but it's certainly not what was shown off

The A-Life statements are also indicitive of this fact

[supple wedge]

Which is why I said things change indevelopment

[lean crystal]

Yeah, the shift from UE4 to UE5 is likely the case

It's disappointing

[supple wedge]

They could have used depricated lighting models (UE4) in UE5.
I bet you the game would have looked worse

Lumen is more wholistic, despite its flaws

[lean crystal]

We will never know

[grim palm]

UE4 was trash engine

[supple wedge]

People forget UE4 was hated and known to perform poorly and stutter

[lean crystal]

I'm sure it was, but the time they spent showing off that trailer built in it looked like a closer rendition of the Zone

[supple wedge]

Heck, people forget that Alife used to stutter, regardless of your hardware.

[lean crystal]

Are you talking about Stalker 2?

[supple wedge]

Enhanced Edition actually fixed that.

[grim palm]

We kept our game to UE3, even though UE4 had been out for years, because it was so bad

[supple wedge]

No, Alife in stalker Soc - Cop stuttered

[craggy radish]

Okay so when I started a new save file, Skif was still drunk, so now I deleted every save file I have in game, exited out the game, and reopened it, and I’m starting a new save file. If skif is still hobbling as soon as I get into gameplay I’m going to scream

[lean crystal]

Too much cheeki not enough breeki

[lean crystal]

But at least it existed

[grim palm]

[supple wedge]

wasn't what I was arguing

[lean crystal]

It's a completely different dev team now right?

[grim palm]

Yes

[lean crystal]

Oh I'm not arguing, I'm just saying

[grim palm]

Some folks are still there

[lean crystal]

I beat SoC last night and holy shit that final section with Monolith is so busted on high difficulties haha

[craggy radish]

Welp looks like its time to scream!

Skif is still wobbling around and looking left and right like he’s pounded a whole jug of alcohol

I don’t know what I could even do to fix this because I got this game off gamepass

[lean crystal]

This is trve gopnik experience

[craggy radish]

Wait. Was it the deadzone of my controller?

It was the deadzone.

I had it set to 0% because the sensitivity of the controller is still extremely low when I cranked it up to 100%

[stiff pasture]

[lean crystal]

And you deleted every save

[craggy radish]

It was only 50 minutes

[stiff pasture]

This is why you check all your settings before having a mental break down

[lean crystal]

Jokes on you guys I got my brain melted at the scorcher, I don't have break downs

[azure steppe]

PLEASE TELL ME.... how's stalker now? I haven't plaid in 5 months. There's been alot of updates?

[supple wedge]

Combat has been significantly improved. The biggest change imo.
Flashlights have shadows. Lots of bugs have been patched.
Visually improved a bit. Just more stable lods and lighting.

CPU performance is more stable, but overal performance hasn't improved.
I very rarely see any drops, but if you're on lower end hardware it's still rough it sounds like.

Oh, and npcs will, loot, dogs will eat corpses. A bunch of idle animations have been added or at least better utilised.
Some stashes have been changed.

The main thing that's missing is further spawn distances and any other improvements that can be made to offline ai processes.
I think upping spawn/switch radius to 150m would be a bit boon. That's 50% more than current, and matches the previous games.

[azure steppe]

@supple wedge holy shit tho bro. Thanks alot im convinced to play after work. I truly love the game so much I stopped playing like a week after it released because I know it had ALOT to work on. Fixes. Updates. But damn... that's alot of improvements. Sounds bad ass.

[worn oar]

It's way better. Everything improved significantly and it's worth resuming at this stage. That doesn't mean it doesn't still need some work, but overall, it's way way better by all means. You may try and see for yourself ig

[supple wedge]

^Agree with that. Not saying its perfect, but it's hella fun.

[azure steppe]

Yea fs i get its not perfect fs. But man... wen it released. Lol. Gotta be a major difference lol. I'm on a pc. 4070 ti super. It ran great tbh even before. But yea I'll be playing tonight.

[azure steppe]

For sure. Sounds good. Thanks

[worn oar]

Yeah, it's more consistent in terms of performance and overall stability. My exp was fine since release, but seeing how it is now shows some really good progress

Slow progress, but steady so far

I mean at least I'm sure the team is trying their best to improve the game as they go

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

[unkempt matrix]

Any news on when modding support will be released?

[ripe patrol]

SoonTM

[wet flume]

started playing stalker 2 now after just playing 2 hours on release and quitting. man the difference is night and day.

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-halloween-treat-trick-or-treat-gif-8514708

[unkempt matrix]

Alr, i might, come back after i finish this school year

[wraith socket]

OMG
KEITH

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-cat-fat-gif-24539948

[celest blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306380307058004118/1371567677671342110/monolith_gosling.gif

[crisp ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/fella-meme-fella-stealing-meme-meme-theif-fella-fella-like-gif-6541691863229024524

[urban hearth]

Absolute ass of a game 😂

[faint notch]

It's like a bad house. You cope and say the bones are good and hope it can be fixed in the next decade

[crisp ruin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest blaze]

@crisp ruin i got a favor to ask could you please remove the [EN] from my name

[clear raft]

We can only hope that Modders fix this game. 😑

Cause GSC won't

[night crest]

💀

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

[dire dagger]

Things haven’t been going well

[sly matrix]

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[celest blaze]

Hope you have a good day king @safe badge

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/dragging-someone-dragged-exhausted-im-tired-so-sleepy-gif-16841533

[empty gorge]

skeeffaaa where sdk skeeffaaaa

[crisp ruin]

omg
Keith

[dire dagger]

The sdk is the friends we made along the way

[crisp ruin]

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[delicate ferry]

Is anyone on Xbox seeing incredibly slow look/right stick speed

Haven't played in a while but maxed out I still can't acquire targets or respond fast enough to do anything

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-belly-rub-gif-8421087136581332365

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[lofty fossil]

im disappointed in what became of stalker.

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-hercules-gif-22417674

[zinc apex]

You're not a mod nor helper anymore? What happened 😦

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[zinc apex]

Where el gato?

[summer cliff]

Ayo GSC updated regional prices in steam on any of the stalker games to match the American one, that's too fckn high for me to afford

Regional prices exist for a reason you know

[marsh pond]

Sounds cheaper than takeaway

[worthy zodiac]

You are not the only one

[merry verge]

So I don't understand

They just broke controller support completely, and it's not a top priority? The game has been basically unplayable since the update for alot of people

Guess we're still "just wait for the next update! It'll all be fixed then."

[worthy zodiac]

They just don't want to make updates daily because it makes everyone redownload a bunch of files for small changes. Not defending them because that sort of stuff should've never be broken in the first place but yeah

[merry verge]

They already said in answers they haven't found a fix for it and won't for at least this week. It's just crazy to me to let a good chunk of the players not even really be able to play and not make that top priority. Every big update I download it again cuz it sounds like massive improvements, but other than a couple it just seems like minor shit and something else gets broken so it comes right back off my hard drive until it gets fixed.

[worthy zodiac]

Yeah, it sucks

[merry verge]

Ye they broke it waiting for a fix now. Probably be a couple weeks

[glossy musk]

This is why you don't instantly update anything lol

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-fun-fun-cat-cattitude-weird-cat-gif-14870859783513718782

[bitter kindle]

@granite mortar

Sorry mate didn't mean that

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[coarse sparrow]

-20% sale and yet no news about them DLCs

[worthy zodiac]

I don't want to hear about DLCs before they fix the main game, to be honest

[grim palm]