⭐┃nospoilers_general

[willow quail]

You can make exception

[empty gorge]

you know your budget beforehand and you expand gradually within limits and dont take too much on your plate

scopecreep is a real thing in gamedevelopment

especially for ambitious studios that represent the significant gaming part of their country

then it turns into a cultural thing so now u got that pressure

[keen bone]

yeah I feel like people don't take into account with A-Life that

OG Trilogy - basically big, segmented levels
S2 - singlular streaming open world space

I imagine that's a big complicated part of getting A-LIfe 2.0 to function similarly whilst being performant for consoles

[willow quail]

The game is perfectly fine, the problem is stability, bug and performance.
Whithout these problems, the game will be perfect

[empty gorge]

@keen bone works here too and is what is causing problems in my opninion: world partition and loading of unloading of cells within. world partition can act the same as segmenting a larger map in sectors.
@willow quail i disagree, those issues are just a part of a larger thing, you still have itemization, player progression, economy, balance, unimplemented features as a result of harsh game design choices, list goes on

[willow quail]

Is your opinion after all,

The only thing that is sure is the performance and stability problems

[empty gorge]

you are fine going through the effort of finding a stash with bread and salami as content? perhaps get shot at by a random spawn that aggros you, loot them and see broken guns and proceed to go repair and barely make up for it?

knowing that from now on every stash you will do will be a variation of what you already got? with only exception a blueprint for an item in an unbalanced economy?

where your only means of gaining money is artefact hunting?

one that can damage your armor heavily and still not offset the cost due to artefact luck?

[keen bone]

I think GSC will have an easier time balancing everything when all the bugs are gone. I'm surprised 6 months later they're still doing '500+ bugs fixed' patch notes but I guess they need more time to cook lol

[empty gorge]

early access

[keen bone]

how are you implementing your mods btw? I haven't done any kind of UE5 mods before but made some v simple NV/GTA trilogy remaster ones before. are you just modifying script files or is it a lot more than that

[empty gorge]

its basic config editing, wouldnt even call it a mod tbh

its tweaking existing values already in place and removing some others blabla, its nothing major

call me a tweaker but that word doesnt fit right does it so modder it is

[keen bone]

nice got you

[willow quail]

After 20 hours of gameplay, I am totally fine with the game, only the bug, crashe and performances.

[keen bone]

I'm currently saving up for a gaming PC, may join u in tweaking once I have juan

[willow quail]

Btw I'm not a tester like you so I d'ont see everything

[empty gorge]

yeah thats possible, if you are having fun and thats whats left for you all good my man ❤️ you do you

[empty gorge]

we just test updates, nothing fancy

[willow quail]

Oh, but I'm sure that you notice every bugs, every details in the game unlike me

[empty gorge]

not like its a gift haha

[keen bone]

are there any guides up on Stalker 2 modding/UE5 modding?

[empty gorge]

gamma discord has a basic set up guide for how to get started with s2 modding

SINCE WE STILL DONT HAVE A MOD CHANNEL BUT WE GOT COSPLAY DONT WE

[keen bone]

lol damn I didn't even clock

[turbid hull]

wait 1.4 is already out? I left my computer on last night I have no clue whether it’s already updated or not

[sly matrix]

It is

[fading orbit]

How big is this update?

[sly matrix]

I heard mention of 10-ish GB, but don't quote me on that

[placid spade]

Just loading, says 14.3GB for PC

[thorn ledge]

Is the controller sensibility supposed to be slower even with 100?

[placid spade]

Idk, using my device own software settings

transducing so to speak

[celest oracle]

Did they remove the Persistent Ai line from the patch?

[dire dagger]

Yes

[celest oracle]

It was a mistake, or not working as intended?

[dire dagger]

[storm kernel]

somebody must've mentioned A Life somewhere and it got delayed again...

[sly matrix]

alright, who did it?

[willow quail]

14 Gb

Guys Unreal engine 5.6 is released, gonna download and test it, they promise 60 fps with Lumen and ninite for the requirements with this new version, but we never know..

S2 should update to like 5.5 or now 5.6, performances and stabilization is better.

[ripe patrol]

A man can hope that they somehow update to anything thats not 5.1

[willow quail]

Fact

[celest goblet]

Not gonna happen but it would be nice

[granite mortar]

Screw UE
It sucks ass

[celest oracle]

Looks like a great patch tho, other then the removed A-Life part.

But i will still wait for a few more, before my first playthrough.

[ripe patrol]

lets hope for 1.5 to have the persistent Alife

and render distance increase. I swear we dont need like 500m render or whatever, just pushing it to like 150 would be more than enough

[placid spade]

I dont understand that hype of A-life tbh

[ripe patrol]

Because the current system is awful. We dont need eternally present and persistent AI, but just a half baked spawn/event driven NPC system to fill up the world is very lame. The OG trilogy pushed the envelope on persistent world and the NPC inhabiting it and in this game they bit way more than they could chew

[analog helm]

it won't be persistent in the sense people in this chat at least, want - with the inital reddit investigation and taking into account their last patch notes, it's safe to say: they go for groups/factions persistance, not individual persistance. In other words, they only simulate the factions struggle over lairs control and they are doubling down on that system. Whether people like it or not, that is the A Life 2.0 (at least what devs mean by it currently).

[zinc apex]

it was in the patch notes?

[ripe patrol]

yes and then removed

[zinc apex]

mysterious 🕵️

[celest oracle]

it might be a bit overrated, but still, an AI spawner is just bad. I understand that its much bigger map, then the OG games, and no separate zones at that, but we need persistency.

Like i saved a guy in a village, then he went and sat on a box, if i then went away 100m+ and went back he just gone, in OG the stalkers you saved would go to HUBs and later you could find him by name and that was so cool.

Its just ads so much to the game World

[celest oracle]

I think that could be enough, but at least give interactable NPC persistency. If you save one, he goes back to a HUB or just keep wandering till death, but make quest NPCs be it minor or major quest have persistency.

[ripe patrol]

If i had a magic wand, and wanted to keep things "realistic" I would add 3 simulated systems which control the spawns/NPC persistence. Faction Simulation (Lairs, POI Control and Patrols), Routine/Schedule (Quest based Spawns, in the morning you see squads leave to do their things, Evening they return, during the day you fill spawn with these NPCs hunting artefacts, clearing mutants, invading adversary POI), Contextual/Living (NPCs at safe locations chilling, job givers, people chilling at spots, playing guitar, lighting up campfires, etc). This would feel way more organic than just chance based spawns and events as it is now. The lair system is barely implemented and working

[zinc apex]

Has anyone seen Bobby Swango here today?

[celest oracle]

wow im just browsing the mods, and the "Alife found a was" seems impressive.

anybody have tried it?

[empty gorge]

its one of the only 2 (up-to-date) alife mods out there, doesnt hurt to try, afaik safe to install and uninstall anytime

[celest oracle]

does the extended 860m radius tank performance?

[zinc apex]

looking forward to replay the trilogy in their enhanced versions

[zinc apex]

not noticable if at all

[celest oracle]

then why is it still 100m in the game?

[zinc apex]

that's render distance and it's hardcapped in the code/blueprints somewhere. only gsc could change that atm

you could always jump to GAMMA discord and check out the dedicated channels of these both a-life mods. lots of info in there and great people around

[open crypt]

Hello everyone!
Has anyone here received a refund for a physical edition of Game Legends? I've already received two emails from PayPal saying I should get a refund. But I paid with a credit card and have never used PayPal. This is strange. So I don't know if I should wait a little longer for the funds to be credited to my credit card, or try to register for PayPal and get the funds and then transfer them to my bank card? 🤔

[celest oracle]

maybe, but for now im just browsing to see, where we at, im gona still wait for a few more patches before diving in.

[zinc apex]

same bruv

waiting at least for that ai persistence

[ripe patrol]

Alife found a way is very very experimental, specially it's beta version. It pretty much changes how ai director works

Shays Living Zone is more vanilla with better dynamic spawns

[celest oracle]

yeah, im just trying out stuff, i made it to the first village when the game came out, then seeing the issues i put it away, but this new patch seemed good, so i will give it a spin, to see what changed, but im not gona progress with the game.

The mod looked good, but reading the description, its just a more refined spawner basically.

[ripe patrol]

Yes. You could try out, i think 1.4 is how the game shouldve launched, given that i still think the game is half baked

Also you could wait for STALKER Infinity mod to be updated. It takes care of a lot of the usually issues with the game like spngy enemies and overabundance of items

Modular Hard Mode (The overhaul i like might take a while to update since the author is pretty burned out)

[celest oracle]

yeah, man. I understand what the devs went trough, and sympathize, but this game was early access material at launch, they should have communicated better.

[ripe patrol]

GSC is awful at communicating. It was so frustrating to watch the state of the game while they made social media posts like the valentines day reel. I understand that their social team is not the dev team and they have to work on something, but that energy couldve spent engaging with the community instead of making youtube/tiktok reels like their game is not bugged and broken mess

[frozen merlin]

Play now with the new patch or wait 'til the next one ?

[celest oracle]

well i will wait at least a few more big ones.

[ripe patrol]

both are okay

[empty gorge]

every alife mod is a modified spawner since game uses a spawner

both modify the 100m experience, one with experimental changes to create a certain feeling, other with adjustments to existing structure

[celest oracle]

so then is there offline AI or not? Or everything is just happening around in your bubble? I didnt follow the findings lately.

[ember summit]

The old games also used a spawner mechanic btw, it was called Smart Terrains.

[empty gorge]

no, no offline alife

[empty gorge]

kind of, smart terain were areas where ai could simulate a certain action/outcome. we have that here in the form of nodes and these are everywhere

[celest oracle]

bc the last thing i remember they saying, there is, its just bugged.

[frozen merlin]

then I wait till the big A-Life 2.0 I think

[empty gorge]

hha yeah,...bugged haha

i guess you could say that in a way sure

[ember summit]

Correct but it also was used to spawn mutants and/or stalkers.

[celest oracle]

so then its not even there at all? Because then it will be alonger wait then a few patches.

[empty gorge]

possibly true yes not sure but can be

[empty gorge]

no see the problem with alife 2.0 is: no one knows what it actually is

what i consider alife and alife 2.0 is perhaps something else as u think and what gsc thinks

some say alife is persistent ai everywhere, others say its render and what happens inside

it comes down to what you think personally is alife and with that 2.0

ive heard people be satisfied with what we have and others wanting the backstory of an ai and its extended family

[celest oracle]

well i tought that too, before launch, they said in a blog, that its a dynamic event spawner, and that was a red flag, but then they also said, there is an offline component as well...

[ember summit]

That’s online and offline a-life, basically.

[empty gorge]

correct, but where is the offline part? and what happens in the offline where does the data come from if not offline?

lets introduce: the spawn director on a timer

thats what u see happen in the 100m, the director spawning based on time not on data from offline

its easy for console bros: take a stopwatch, go somewhere where they can only spawn in front and time the render, always around 4min

and for pc? go look at files

[celest oracle]

is there any deep dive on this on reddit with fresh info?

[ember summit]

The reason it worked so well on the old games was mainly due to online a-life, being the a-life that spawned on the same map and/or radius around the player. Offline a-life was used for creating the feeling of a living world outside of the player map. That was one advantage to the older games being broken into areas rather than 1 big map like we have now. Imagine the processing power you’d need it a-life worked the same as the old games but on this scale of map.

Plus, I’m sure it was stated before somewhere a-life needing tweaked due to releasing on consoles and it shat itself.

[empty gorge]

no, and chernobog thats fixed with world partition, it does roughly the same

[ember summit]

Not really, not anywhere near the same extent. The s2 map is massive. The levels being broken by loading screens in the OGs was able to handle the a-life a lot better.

And didn’t melt CPUs.

[empty gorge]

thats world partition tho, it loads nearby cells. like the og's used to load nearby maps

what can happen in old smart terrain is now in ue loaded cells

[celest oracle]

but still, it has to be a half way after 15+ years

[empty gorge]

wym half way? and its not 15 for s2, more like 4

started in 2021 iirc

[pine hawk]

Is it just me or are Buerers more annoying?

[celest oracle]

i meant, since the OG games. Technology advanced a lot. I get, that a full map of persistent NPC is not possible, but some persistency should be achievable no?

[empty gorge]

absolutely

[celest oracle]

its the consoles again? Are they holding back the future of gaming?

[empty gorge]

obviously, pc is more capable than a xbox series s and it doesn't help that microsoft wants feature parity between S and X versions

[graceful hill]

imo graphical and performance problems are significantly more distracting issues than alife

[empty gorge]

every change we get is limited by the capabilities of series s since features we get, that needs to get too

[celest oracle]

yes, but at least that will change as hardware gets better.

[graceful hill]

if only u could fix flickering lights and shadows by upgrading ur hardware lol

[celest oracle]

that was mainly for the performance part

[placid spade]

I would prefer they fix the memory bleeding...

[celest oracle]

are these "Performace Fix" mods do anything usefull at all?

[placid spade]

Idk

Im using on top a tool for managing the memory usage with setted values when purging

[charred wraith]

the only engine.ini ive had luck with after 200 hours playtime (150 hours modding 50 hours playing) is STALKER 2 Anti-Stutter Mod and Massive FPS Boost from a guy namesd qmqz

[celest oracle]

i remember trying some of them out in the first days, and they gave worse fps.

[graceful hill]

i know 🙂 i wouldn't even mind the awful performance if the image quality didn't suck

[charred wraith]

for performance that is, as there is a 15-20 fps gain with the Base engine.ini - every other engine.ini ive tried hasnt done sh*t

[celest oracle]

and no degradation in quality?

[charred wraith]

15-20 is maybe alot, more like 5-15. Hard to say, ive got a i5-12400f and 3070 8gb, so i cant run it on Epic at all but after todays update aswell it seems to be very little to no visual loss by applying it or not. But as i said, i have not compared frame to frame, but I get annoyed by every little stutter or missing graphics but im happy with this ini

last time i used it you could maybe notice that LODs and pop-in of bushes, trees and foliage in general was worse - but now with the 1.4 patch and improvements it seems to be alot alot better.

[celest oracle]

did the performance improve since the launch? without mods i mean.

[placid spade]

no crash so far...

[charred wraith]

they have improved LODs and reduced pop-in of foliage, that much i can confirm. But i'm not sure if the frametimes are better or the fps is more stable.

or higher

[celest oracle]

i only made it till Zalissya (or what) but there it was awful. Even with decent hardware.

[sharp minnow]

and they shouted that they had started optimization that was as much as -8% in FPS on 3070, thank you, in the next patch, probably 3070 will die completely

👍

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7FGwXTwEI omg

[nimble cipher]

madi921 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest oracle]

Well 3070 got recked by nvidia with that 8gb of vram.
I had one as well, but i sold it and got a 4070S which will have the same issue too at some point. 😄 But for now its great.

[celest oracle]

what do you think, how long will they support the game, i just saw, that despite the patch there are not lot of current players on steam at least.

[warped herald]

It's sure easier when it's broken down into clear loaded levels like the OG games but even on a big map like stalker 2 one you can still have the same online/offline mechanics. Assuming offline is "moving" human and mutant groups positions and predicting the outcome of an encounter it's relatively cheap.
However, debugging such a system at this scale would probably be very challenging, already at the scale of the old ones tbh 😅

[charred wraith]

jesus christ

[urban basin]

The fps are still the same but its more stable
Still lot of memory leaks tho

[turbid hull]

Has the two new guns added to the game in 1.4 yet?

[ripe patrol]

no

[urban basin]

Comeback in a couple of months

[sly matrix]

PRAISE KEITH

[turbid hull]

okie

[latent grotto]

idk why, but for me the new patch added like 10-20 extra FPS as well as reduce the input lag to none. im so happy :>

[celest oracle]

just did a test with the game, regarding spawns.

saved the guy, in a ruined small village next to the starting HUB, after the saving we had a small talk, and he sat down to some boxes. I killed a boar almost next to him also. I then went back to the HUB then ran back, the dude is gone, the boar corps is gone, and there are new bloodsuckers in the village i just cleared 5 minutes ago.

[empty gorge]

[rapid warren]

KEITH

[surreal yarrow]

I like how they delete stuff from game, from even patch logs

Like easter eggs, enviroment stuff

[summer stream]

This. And I think a lot of people have overblown expectations. a lot of people think the classic alife was more complex than it was, and are remembering based on nostalgia. I think mods might have skewed peoples expectations too. There’s a large amount of people who have never played the vanilla games and some people don’t even know that anomaly is a mod.

[celest oracle]

well in OG if you saved a stalker, he went and joined in a hub or stayed at a Poi at least and you could find him later. Now, they just despawn and gone.

[summer stream]

They literally do nothing once you saved them. Tolik just goes and falls asleep in the rookie village. People hyper fixate on things that aren’t even pertinent and end up ruining their own game experience

[unreal grove]

rip stalker 2 a life system sucks played stalker 1 after getting bored playing stalker 2 halfway

[celest oracle]

i mean, a lot of us play these kind of games for immersion. Even if he only just stays in the village is "immersive" at least, but sit on a box and then just despawn... meh.

They even gave every stalker a name, so its even more demoralizing.

[summer stream]

I don’t know what to tell you man. Don’t miss the forest for the trees

[celest oracle]

at least, if you made a small quest to have a specific talk with an npc, they should make that npc persist.

well im happy for you, to not find this kind of stuff an issue

[ripe patrol]

But these arguments are also so annoying to hear, its not just the individual components of the old alife that are missed, its the whole package. OG alife was a sum of its parts that made it great, this game has none of it, its just a spawn system with weighted chances of randomly occurring events in a radius of 100m from the player

[summer stream]

It really wasn’t that complex man

[celest oracle]

then they even failed to do that not so complex stuff in this game, to be good just like the OGs then?

[ripe patrol]

so why is the alife in S2 so gimped? is it the massive map? is it UE? is it the scope of the game?

If its so simple why did S2 fall so flat on its face on release? spawning random groups behind you, despawning NPCs right in front of you, static unmoving and unlived lairs, NPCs that sprint nowhere in the middle of nowhere

I just want a game that doesnt treat itself like a showcase of "cool moments you thought you had in the trilogy" i wanted STALKER 2 to push the envelope of living persistent AI, like it did in 2006

but we got a generic cinematic open world "survival" game, with STALKER Flavor

[summer stream]

Just take a deep breath. It’s gonna be okay

Play the game or don’t, I don’t know what else to tell you

[ripe patrol]

nice argument, you did it reddit, god forbid anyone tries to discuss their feelings on a game they wanted to be good

i spent well over a couple hundred hours for S2 man, i like this game and just want it to be the best game it can be

[summer stream]

It’s really not that serious mate

Stop trying to search for perfection in things that you already enjoy. You’ll kill the joy of it

[blazing fractal]

Its serious enough when a company gives false promises

[worn oar]

Baby steps is what makes real lasting solutions. Let them cook

[blazing fractal]

We can only hope

[lusty mountain]

"Erm game is good enough so all your points are invalid, and you should just take the tripple A slop like I do" God people like you are unbearable. People have different opinions than you buddy. Stop shoving yours down others throats like it is arguably correct

[worn oar]

I'm seeing progress, steady progress. So, it's only fair to let them do their jobs

[summer stream]

Careful, don’t hurt yourself

[blazing fractal]

Lets just hope they will pull a cyberpunk

[lusty mountain]

I already did :(, the 30 secs I spent reading your comments gave me radiation sickness

[blazing fractal]

Drink some vodka

[summer stream]

You should go outside more, might build up a tolerance

[worn oar]

Well, it's okay to complain as long as it's in a respectful way. I can see how opinions vary, and I believe most are valid. The only thing I would say is that the team is in fact trying their best to improve the game. I can see it first hand, so it's not something I'm making up. Just try to give them time. Alife will certainly become what we always envisioned. It's not a simple switch thing, so in order to make it stimulate the whole zone, major issues in stability and performance need to be done with first.

[empty gorge]

[celest blaze]

the only valid opinions are the ones i decide to have based on whos in the chat atm ong

[worn oar]

From the looks of it, that's indeed the case
I mean compare launch to current state and make your own conclusion if you will.

[celest portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736831535034007623/1067870724318056548/20230124_221708.gif

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cigar-smoking-smoking-cat-cat-is-smoking-cigar-gif-8453696328432591931

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/heman-power-i-have-the-power-gif-9740577

[lusty mountain]

Dont get me wrong. I enjoy the game even with or without A-life. The only thing I dont like is people trying to shut others down for having valid criticism, without said criticism I doubt we would have seen as many positive changes as we already have and will see. The game is good but if no one points out the flaws it will always just be good

[blazing fractal]

I cant tell personally, i got 60 hours in on release, didnt see much bugs and barely left zalissya. 70 hours in i had a bug where the first faust cutscene would break. Now 80 hours in havent run into much either, and explored a good chunk of the map. Only real bug ive had is that the map would drastically lower my fps which still happens and a few visual bugs.

[worn oar]

I doubt I'm getting you wrong cuz I share your overall opinion. 1.4 was a good run for me. It kept me occupied most of the time, so I didn't even bother to scout faraway surroundings for alife moments. It doesn't mean that I didn't tho. I did see plenty of progress and I'm happy with it. Like the combat AI is fairly improved and challenging now. Seems like a good placeholder for full alife to me, at least for now.

[blazing fractal]

The main complaints that i have is that mo1t has only responded to only 1 of my tens of questions

[summer stream]

You literally called it triple A slop lol

[stiff pasture]

People who enjoy something are the hardest on it

[summer stream]

I enjoy the game too. I also have complaints too. I also recognize the game gave me 180+ hours of entertainment at price that is lower than industry standard and I’m not about to trash the devs for it

[lusty mountain]

over exaggeration to help emphasise my point. hence the quotations and Erm at the start

[blazing fractal]

At this point it wont win goty, but will probably win atleast labor of love

[worn oar]

Well, maybe you can't tell for sure, but I do. I didn't have much problems with launch versions and still managed to finish the game for the first time around the release of 1.2. I started a new playthrough with 1.3 and I could see how much changed since day one. I mean even visually, the game does look way better and performance is better too. Memory leak still persists for a chunk of ppl, but it's far less in terms of occurrences.

[brazen meadow]

Hows the patch stalkers ?

[stiff pasture]

Better but still a journey to go

[blazing fractal]

I will probably start a new playthrough once they get everything up and running, alot of features that i expected are missing. Once youre done with every side objective in an area it becomes completely empty. Added with the fact that there is usually less than 3 per area

[worn oar]

I mean, that's the spirit. I mean if we put the game outside of the circle of subjective expectations, many will simply receive it differently, positively one could say.

[ripe patrol]

I just want mercenaries to stop spawning right next to me pls god

[blazing fractal]

Like i said i spent 60 hours within the confines of zalissya and its adjascent areas, a good portion of that was me going to the bathroom, and letting shaders compile. Once out of those confines, im essentially running through the game at mach speed at this point

I think most people would agree that the game lacking alot of content

[warped herald]

Not enough time to polish and a bit rushed to release I beleive. A-Life in the OG games is not hugely complex but it was polished enough that it did the trick perfectly. I played on release and I get what you mean, but it's getting better bit by bit, getting the polishing and debugging/qa time it did not have at release time

[blazing fractal]

Tbf the game was being worked on since 2018, and their lead writer died of covid. I dont see how xbox wouldnt have pressured them to release sooner

[warped herald]

Yea, I mean at one point you see the bank account and be like "Ok we have enough for x months of salary so we need to focus on getting this ready to ship". And try to do as much as you can in the timeframe you can achieve. Being stuck on a forked version of UE 5.1 and on a tight margin for hardware specifications must have felt like a Dark Souls boss for the devs 😅 . Still glad the project shipped and was able to play, had a blast even at release, even if it could have been better, atleast it was pretty great

[blazing fractal]

It would have probably been better if they did what oblivion did and used unreal just for the visuals and kept the xray engine for the background. Metro exodus is a stunning game on the xray engine, and so is anomoly despite that being very old

[warped herald]

Well consider that in one case the studio is almost packed with devs familliar with the old engine ways, on the orther the team is completly new, there is no one that wrote a line of code of the old engine left there afaik.
UE in versions prior to 5.3 - 5.4 was very unoptimized, it's now pretty stable and good but it used to be almost in an "experimental" state, and I can't imagine the effort that went to make it able to run acceptably on my old rig with a 1070 and a Ryzen 7 2700.

[ripe patrol]

metro is on xray?

[blazing fractal]

A heavily modified one, sont forget 4a is ex gsc employees, and they stole the xray engine from them

A lot of assets in the first 2 are from stalker

[ripe patrol]

Controversy
There have been accusations that the 4A Engine is a modified version of the X-Ray engine used in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series, instead of an original development. 4A denied the accusations.[4] Shishkovtsov also noted that porting the original engine to consoles would have proved extremely difficult.[4]

[granite mortar]

Afaik only very early builds of the game and the 4A engine were Xray derived

[ripe patrol]

seems like maybe its not?just same programmer who made xray

[granite mortar]

Depends on what you want to believe I guess
Its jot like Grigorovich was super trustworthy back then either

[ripe patrol]

stalker 2 on metro engine wouldve been nice lol

metro series is one of my fav game series

[warped herald]

I mean UE5 is great no ? But 5.1 was a crazy bet ngl 😅 The early UE5 versions were very very hungry

[ripe patrol]

hopium that they can udpate at least lumen and ninite to later versions

[warped herald]

hopefully they can backport some stuff or upgrade engine versions at one point yea

[granite mortar]

Nah its horrid garbage

[willow quail]

Yeah

[willow quail]

Yes but it's a new engine with quality and default, maybe in 1/2 year the engine will be great

[ripe patrol]

I say, temporal stuff its whats horrible, TAA and lumen and stuff

i wonder if any game dev will be like lets use ue5 and not use any of the temporal shit like that

[willow quail]

Me

[ripe patrol]

Remanant 2 was kind of like that

[blazing fractal]

Like i said 2033 and last light use assets from stalker

[willow quail]

Lumen just take 30% of performances..
It's good, nice quality but cost so much performances

Too much..

[granite mortar]

Probably not
If devs wanted to do these from scratch they wouldnt be using UE in the first place

[ripe patrol]

OG STALKER and Metro are just top tier overall

[ripe patrol]

not from scratch but use traditional systems

[granite mortar]

Except for Call of Pripyat

[warped herald]

I find 5.5.4 pretty good right now tbh but yes, I think too much ppl jumped to UE5 way too early I think

[granite mortar]

Yeah, bad wording on my part

[willow quail]

Not for everyone, just remind that creating an engine is taking a lot of time

Triple A have no excuse..

[granite mortar]

Yeah but you dont need to create an engine
There are many good engines that work better for the projects that use them
Just look at KCD2

[blazing fractal]

I prefer exodus over the 2033 and last light. 2033 was nice and all, and last light had horrid writing imo

[willow quail]

But for tiny teams I can easily understand

[blazing fractal]

But exodus was a masterpiece

[willow quail]

Nice, I learn unreal engine when 5.1 was out

My game on 5.3

But upgrading a Unreal version is risky, it can create corrupted files

But Stalker 2 really need to upgrade Unreal engine version

[proper wraith]

new update and performance is same

[willow quail]

Not totally, Lumen has been improved since 5.4

[blazing fractal]

It was reported to have broken many peoples games

[warped herald]

Neat I wish you great success in your projects

[willow quail]

Thank you, the project is already published on Steam btw

[blazing fractal]

@willow quail send me a link when you feel like its ready for viewing i would love to see it

[willow quail]

Of?

[blazing fractal]

Your game

[willow quail]

Ok send you dm

[lean crystal]

How's the update? I'm reinstalling

First time since release

[clear raft]

I'm uninstalling until they finish the game.

[blazing fractal]

Alright when i get it i will check it out

[lean crystal]

Answers my question then, lool

[willow quail]

I just updated and test it, for me it's good, I d'ont snapped every details but the game run great today

[lean crystal]

Cool, I'm not even trying to deck out settings, I'd prefer performance.. More intrigued by the Zone, AI updates, and balances

[willow quail]

Performances has been updated but I d'ont think that much

You will not see 20 fps more

[lean crystal]

Cool, I saw some CPU optimisations under the hood.. I think I was avg 60-70fps so if I can get consistent there and not tanking in NPC heavy areas I might be able to do a full playthrough

[willow quail]

Depending of your specs

Got R7 5800x, RX 7800XT and I can run 90FPS with framgen

I never use framegen before Stalker 2, I never need it before

If I turn it off... 50-60fps ultra settings so

(1080p) it d'ont sound great

#pc-specs we should go there sorry for off topic

[warped herald]

I use to have a R7 2700 and a 1070 and could barely get to 30FPS.
Now I have a R9 9950X3D and RX 9070XT, this is marvelous.

[willow quail]

Before I was with 560 and 2600 imagine trying to launch S2

[warped herald]

Yea would be challenging ! 😄

Yea it shows the activity where you are and what you do, and anorther since whe you start playing

[willow quail]

Yea

I imagine that you are playing OG and S2 same time 💀

[warped herald]

Multitask

[willow quail]

I didn't saw the Stalker 2

[blazing fractal]

@willow quail checked your profile, game looks interesting, will give it a try!!!

[willow quail]

Thanks bro!

[willow quail]

If you had any problem or spot any bug you can dm me I usually update the game when someone report a bug

[blazing fractal]

Sure

[frozen merlin]

will A-Life 2.0 drop this month too?

[blazing fractal]

Nope

[last helm]

You'd think they would have fixed the awful flee and hide behavior of mutants with an updat touting fixed mutants. There is no transitional time between seeking the player, and attempting to hide. The precise millisecond a mutant cant path to you they begin hide and evade, and the moment you can path they change back.

[brazen meadow]

I love the game but this right here is 90 s era cheesy

[blazing fractal]

Wouldnt make a difference, they still spawn on you instead of just being there

[last helm]

All it would take would be a small delay before transitioning behavior states between seeking the player and hide and evade. It looks so cheesy for mutants to visually swap between behaviors as you move a mere millimeter

[frozen merlin]

ahh okay because I thought they said they want to drop a big big a-life fix too

[blazing fractal]

They fixed a bunch of ai issues, but thats about it. A life will most likely wont be up and running for a long time. Im assuming these bug fixes are the prerequisites for A life to run properly

[frozen merlin]

mmh okay I see

[blazing fractal]

Devs mentioned a life is mostly a cpu issue if im not mistaken

[frozen merlin]

A-Life was one of the main reasons that got me interested in Stalker :/

[frozen merlin]

Is Xbox Series X more stable than PC ? like it often is in terms of pc ports

[blazing fractal]

Cant say not one of the things i looked at for s2.

[frozen merlin]

oki

[blazing fractal]

I feel that, i got into it mainly because i had clear sky as a kid. Then got interested in the story. Unfortunately i feel like s2 is weaker in most areas of its story. Especially when it comes to the relationships between different factions

I did find the noontiders conflict quite interested though

[twin pulsar]

People still coping that slopper 2 will be fixed or?

[blazing fractal]

Its being fixed, just not at a pace most of us would like

[ember summit]

Let them cook tbh, CP2077 also had a famously lousy launch and it took was it nearly 2 years or something for them to get it where it should have been. Probably the same case here tbh, will definitely be a while, either of these studios don’t have the same manpower as the likes of R*.

[blazing fractal]

Theyll cook, hopefully not until theyre at the stage of congratulations

[ember summit]

Hopefully they don’t leave it on the stove too long and burn the mfer either.

[blazing fractal]

Thats what i mean past the point of well done, is congratulations

[ember summit]

Oh haha.

[tawny comet]

Slopper 2 , made me chuckle

[rancid egret]

Here, have some cheese and whine.

[celest oracle]

UE 5.5 looks great, also 5.6 is on the corner.

I hope its possible to upgrade!?

[past scarab]

anyone elses game crashing in the loading screen after hitting continue? i think this patch broke the game for me

[blazing fractal]

It broke for alot of people

[past scarab]

ah, okay. never had issues with this game before so good to know im not the only one now

[blazing fractal]

Yeah ive been sitting in this server for 8 hours now while at work and home, alot of people have reported this issue

[merry verge]

Is anyone else turning super slow after this patch?

Takes a whole 4 seconds to do a 180

[grim rivet]

Am I the only person who feels like there is chronic input latency in this game regardless of FPS?

130fps and game feels sluggish and gross

Game looks noticably better just still doesn't play nice

[runic adder]

100% ads and stick sensitivity on controller here and since the update it takes 10 seconds to do a 180

[merry verge]

Gotta be something with the new handling stat. Cuz I can't even turn to hit bloodsuckers anymore

[runic adder]

i’m getting blasted by rodents because i can’t turn quick enough to hit them

hope they fix it soon

[visual elbow]

Just use MnK, aimings a breeze

To die to rodents is genuinely hilarious

[finite dragon]

This update broke all the mods 😦

[celest portal]

It can happen with any major update lol

Just got to wait now for those mods to be updated

[finite dragon]

From what I'm understanding they made modder's life more difficult with this patch though, unfortunately.

[hexed leaf]

According to the creator of Simple Modloader there appears to have been a deliberate attempt by GSC to prevent bootstrap loading of mods

[finite dragon]

This is exactly what I'm referencing.

unfortunately, you will need to re-add all the mods that use SML
if you have used Engine.ini mod list for Gamepass, you need to update it, see new example```

[hexed leaf]

Fortunately they must've had the AI team implement it because he's released a fix for it already

If it were 3 months ago I'd have said he's mental but now? GSC have now stated that mods won't be able to edit scripts, ignored all feedback from the 'community testers' regarding v1.4, and hastily removed all references to NPCs 'living their lives in the zone' when it turned out to be a persistent name generator

[finite dragon]

So much for A Life...

[hexed leaf]

Yeah I admit I got sucked into that one

[finite dragon]

We all did, brother.

[orchid gale]

Hello gamers

[celest portal]

Hi

[orchid gale]

Who’s amped for femboy Friday

[clear elm]

Ohhhh !!! Me me me !! :333 333

[orchid gale]

YEAH DOG!!!!

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-meow-cute-meme-funny-gif-16874634335787195581

[clear elm]

Are you ready for femboy friday?

[wraith socket]

No, but I support your right to be what you want to be.

[clear elm]

I am not a femboy, thank you very much.

I can't even believe that you would assume that

[clear elm]

Okay, perhaps I am femboy bipolar. One minute I am a die hard femboy, the next I hate them. Who knows?

@swift sinew Knows way more than I do

He is probably excited for Femboy Friday

[stiff pasture]

Ah I see it’s that time of night again

[clear elm]

The best time of night

[stiff pasture]

Honestly this is probably the only official server I’ve been in where people can do goofy shit and actually have fun joking

Unlike ARK or something lmao

[clear elm]

Stalker just has a good community

[stiff pasture]

Agreed

Even if people drive each other up the wall sometimes

Other official game servers I’ve found are either absolutely slathered in obscene message rates even with cooldowns or dead silent outside updates

[clear elm]

OMG YOU JUST SPOILED THE CHANGES TO THE MAIN MENU

this is #⭐┃nospoilers_general

Take that video somewhere else

[celest portal]

Ark

[wraith socket]

It's not a Spoiler if everyone sees it no matter what.

[clear elm]

I still haven't finished downloading the update

[stiff pasture]

With buddies? Actually can be fun

On your own? Agony incarnate

[clear elm]

Who knows if it will ever finish

[celest portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ginger-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-chunky-gif-7882593414338052899

[clear elm]

https://tenor.com/view/pallas-cat-manul-sun-daniang-brush-brushed-gif-1776594574506011763

Damn, I don't have rights

[stiff pasture]

I also just realized this update is going to make IPSF PKM firing squads incredibly terrifying

[celest portal]

Here you go

[clear elm]

Thank you

[orchid gale]

Me

[orchid gale]

That’s not how being a femboy works, you have take a vow

[stiff pasture]

Also, I think they updated Emission visuals

It doesn’t just abruptly end, the clouds actually disperse and fade away now

[orchid gale]

Eh idk since I downgraded my pc I’m scared to play stalker

[clear elm]

Can I still at least celebrate it?

[orchid gale]

Yeah you can celebrate it, just can’t participate unfortunately

[clear elm]

Damn

[orchid gale]

There’s still limits, snorks are one of them

[celest portal]

[orchid gale]

Anyway, helper reveal when ?

[orchid gale]

It’s ok you can still look at all the pictures

Literally the best part

[orchid gale]

I inact my right to refuse to listen to you

[celest portal]

sure

No cookies for you

[orchid gale]

Youve changed 😔

[orchid gale]

You wouldn’t dare !

[celest portal]

Have I

[orchid gale]

Yeah 😔

We used to freak it in general together

Hit on all the cute mods

Tell each other our deepest secrets

[celest portal]

I think we can still freak in gen

[orchid gale]

🥵🫦🫦

[celest portal]

Ight tone it down

[orchid gale]

Gang it is truly so over

[celest portal]

We should put them on some sort of tier list

[orchid gale]

YES!!! I’m making one right now

Based d and nuka are s teir for sure

Helpers and mods need diffrent tier lists though

The power mods have is kinkier

[celest portal]

The term is now just senior mods or just mods

'Helper' was dropped

[orchid gale]

Nu uh

[celest portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736831535034007623/1067870724318056548/20230124_221708.gif

[orchid gale]

Ok we’re collabing in this teir list hold
Up

@celest portal who else goes in s teir

[celest portal]

Are you making two separate lists for the red and purple mods

[orchid gale]

yeah

right now i have you nuka based

[worn oar]

[celest portal]

I honestly don't know who else in purple role that belongs in S tier, haven't seen the rest of the team much

[orchid gale]

this is ranked on cuteness

[worn oar]

What are you talking about?

[celest portal]

Meowkula maybe should be in S tier

[orchid gale]

doing a helper teirlist based on how cute theya re

[orchid gale]

didnt they mute cat guy for saying kot once

[celest portal]

Oh wait right

But it was before where he was told I think, should only mod in UA chats

We should give him a chance

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/10points-to-hufflepuff-hufflepuff-10points-mc-gonagall-gif-22425532

[orchid gale]

(theres so many purple people i dont know)

[celest portal]

Same

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-wearing-purple-lachy-wiggle-the-wiggles-purple-i-love-purple-shirts-gif-20429433

[orchid gale]

i need every purple mods name for this to work

[worn oar]

Gl

[orchid gale]

imma just tag the role and see what happens

[celest portal]

[orchid gale]

teehee

[celest portal]

Currently Jayko and True Energy are online

[orchid gale]

yeahhh i ranked them already

[worn oar]

You can't not even reds can)

[celest portal]

There's also trksthtmn

[orchid gale]

this world is truly a prison

[celest portal]

I am trying to think of who else I know that's purple

[orchid gale]

hes dope

[worn oar]

Well, it was removed to save ppl from mutes for tagging mods for no reason. cuz believe me, it did happen

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/what-harold-and-the-purple-crayon-huh-sony-pictures-gif-7595100803743748362

[celest portal]

I'm trying to remember this other purple guy's name but I forgot

[orchid gale]

i currently have 8, i know theres another UA mod ive seen but i cant remember his name\

[celest portal]

Innoxen

[orchid gale]

i have dark, nuka, based, faust, tksth, andrew, the currently online ua mod meowkula and now innoxen

innoxen easy a teir handsome man

[celest portal]

I can give you the entire list it looks like

One sec

[orchid gale]

lets GO

[worn oar]

Edillon and addeicy

General Michael

And that's it for EN

True energy ua

I think that's all aside from the other names that were previously mentioned

[orchid gale]

bet teirlist will be done tn

[worn oar]

now why tf do you want names to begin with

[orchid gale]

thank you you gorgeous man

[worn oar]

Tier list for what exactly?

[orchid gale]

teir list for how cute they are

[worn oar]

And how would you decide on that

[celest portal]

Purple: Captain Silly Bones, druidowski, astronaut, velotzem, Michael, edilton (ones that aren't added yet)
Red: Sparrow, Свінсон, Taybenberg, Rahmi, Lion, WeirdAlTankovic, Jack, Richaro, Kuro, Tejas, Vasim

[worn oar]

Well, idk why I'm asking ij the first place haha. Do what you please

[orchid gale]

yhats why youre the GOATTTT

kk ill throw all this together give me a min

[celest portal]

Put Sparrow on S tier

And Rahmi

[orchid gale]

and handsome jack

[celest portal]

Yes and Jack

[undone iron]

Hi, now for you with the new patch its good to play?

[worn oar]

Yep

[placid spade]

after the 3rd load of the shaders the graphic structures seems more solid and not frayed as since first load after patch

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-pope-gif-21680164

[placid spade]

whos that? A knight of NI? 😄

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-gif-18986568

[worthy lagoon]

@worn oar

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[swift sinew]

I don't even know how to react to that. Keep yourself safe or something

[dusky shard]

i just realised that if i want to play again i have tp update all my mods 😭

[empty gorge]

and then u realise some mods wont get updated soon

cus current modders dgaf anymore

[lofty fossil]

wait a life was a sham? gsc lied and there is no a life?

[empty gorge]

!noalife

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-simp-simp-pewdiepie-meme-funny-gif-19594448

[proper shadow]

so whats new with the 1.4

im asking again

so stalkers now spawn at the whole map and not just 100m away?

[empty gorge]

no lol

[dire dagger]

No it’s still just 100m

[proper shadow]

damn

[dire dagger]

Damn slow on the draw lmao

[proper shadow]

will it be ever fixed

[empty gorge]

dont worry tho, its one of their biggest priorities:
https://x.com/stalker_thegame/status/1859936946539127141

just stay with them please

[proper shadow]

currently waiting for summer sales so plenty of time to cook

[dire dagger]

Around here you need a masters degree in hopium and a bachelors in waiting

[proper shadow]

i got time alright

[dire dagger]

Only way to survive in this market

[empty gorge]

but to be honest, alife is already so much more than we think it is:
#📜┃gsc-answers message

but yaknow, cant share the details ofcourse, state secret and all that, just stay with them please

[dire dagger]

If they told us Raytheon would go bankrupt and the Chinese would nuke us

It’s life or death really

[empty gorge]

they just nerfed it due to aggresive optimization before release and are struggling to bring it back oke? but i swear it worked flawlessly before release we got...looks around...no one to prove that but stay with them

and oh a random dev just removed it and made it more simplified (like the alife we got) so people understood the meaning of the system yaknow, but we will change the wording when we fix okay? stay with them

but its all okay lads, modders will save us, the sdk is gonna be pure magic and the systems that can be worked on are in peak condition

[dire dagger]

It’s gonna be just like fallout 4 trust me bro

[empty gorge]

modders will be able to change render, YOU FOOLS WE COULD DO SO SINCE RELEASE THEY JUST HARDCODED IT IN PRIVATE PLACES WE CANT ACCESS

i swear to god that one statement is gonna killlll me

[late yarrow]

@sand belfry Yo hoss, you get that refund for Final Boss yet?

[dire dagger]

We’re gonna need to wait for the decomp

Be back in 30 years when the decomp is finally done

[empty gorge]

[celest portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736831535034007623/1067870724318056548/20230124_221708.gif

You're in S tier also

probably

[dire dagger]

Well yah I’m the most veteran member of en mod staff other than crimson

[celest portal]

Honestly would put everyone in S tier but idk what that guy did with the rest of the list

He probably fell asleep

[celest oracle]

https://wccftech.com/unreal-engine-5-6-preview-out-now-epic-promises-vast-open-worlds-at-consistent-60hz/
UE 5.6
Could be great for stalker2.

[azure snow]

how many years before you increase npc render distance beyond 100 meters

[magic coyote]

what bothers me the most is the input lag. It's incredible that playing natively, without upscaling or frame generation, I'm still playing with 100 ms.

"I think even online games on the Nintendo 3DS were more responsive, even damn Tarkov on a 1030 in Streets felt better

[summer cliff]

too late for stalker to update their UE version. In Q&A they said they won't update the UE version, they have to remake the game to do so

[dire dagger]

10

[celest blaze]

15

[celest oracle]

Do you think with the OG games coming again with fresh coat of paint, will be the CoP performance issues also be fixed?
I recently played the trilogy again, but I couldn't even play cop it was so stuttery, I couldn't force myself to play it. The first two games were fine on the other hand.

[celest goblet]

I don't think anyone has ever managed to fix x ray stutter even across many custom engine versions

[wet flume]

hello guys , when the game came out i stopped playing after 2 hours due to the err well rampant A-life issues and so on.

Is this a good time to give stalker 2 a go or should i wait a bit longer for an optimal experience?

[celest goblet]

Though I don't recall any of the games being that bad, just when you approach an area with tons of NPCs

[wet flume]

the latest patch has me hopefull. otherwise back to anomaly i go xd

[celest goblet]

I don't think you have much to lose from waiting more. At this point I'm planning to wait a while, though I did finish the game on launch

[wet flume]

hmm i see , anything 'soon' that will be aded thats worthwhile? my biggest gripe was the absolute rock bottom AI and endless mutant spawns

wich seems to be in the latest patch notes

[magic coyote]

All I know is we won't be enjoying the Cheeki Breeky, that's the kind of thing they do focus on. You really have to wonder about their priorities...

[celest goblet]

Well some of that stuff has improved but it can still be improved a lot more

[nimble cipher]

mercatto has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wet flume]

oh

guesse the F word is off limits xd

[wet flume]

no cheeki breeki????

aw man

[late yarrow]

Glad I emailed Final Boss about the Ultimate edition. They said my refund couldn’t be processed because of limitations with PayPal. I’m more than sure they were never gonna tell me lol

[sharp minnow]

wait now 1.5

[dire dagger]

Just charge back the credit card

[late yarrow]

I tried to put a dispute in with PayPal and they automatically decline it saying the order is too old. I’ll have to call them and see what they can do

[dire dagger]

I mean

You paid through PayPal

With a credit card

Right?

[late yarrow]

Yeah

So contact the bank?

[dire dagger]

Contact credit card company

[versed jasper]

does the as val extended magazine not fit the ''trophy'' variant?

when hovering over the magazine it highlights the weapon but when trying to install it nothing happens, it just pushes the gun away like it's incompatible

oh nvm, I could attach it by using the wheel, instead of inside the inventory

[dire dagger]

It does

[versed jasper]

yeah, it was just the inventory that was bugged

using the attachment wheel let me attach it

[summer stream]

I played through all 3 a few months ago on the the legends of the zone versions on Xbox series X and had no frame issues whatsoever. Handful of crashes but I didn’t notice any stuttering on any of them

[ripe patrol]

@glossy blade you just shared a video that recomends Desolation modpack which is abandoned and outdated, it willt not work and mess up peoples save files and cause isseus which will then be falsely reported to GSC. Just a heads up

There's some plans from the community adjacent to DeadlyStrike (Author) to release a patch for it though. Cant say when or if itll happen

Also Radium seems to be outdated and OXA has issues with 1.4 (also outdated)

ah and good to know that the author of radium took my assets and reuploaded them without my permission

[worn oar]

[ripe patrol]

and no credit anywhere. I would've let him used them anyways

[worn oar]

I think you should contact the author of the video

[ripe patrol]

Maybe but Mol1t should probably take down that video from media, idk im not here to tell him how to do his job

Im asking the radium guy to please credit my mod and link my original mod page if he wants to just rehost my files as his owns. Its not like i care so much but with how little Mol1t or any CM here care about the actual modders idk if its even worth spending energy on this

@neon nexus

Привіт! Ти завантажив відео з застарілими модами, які можуть викликати проблеми у тих, хто їх використовує, особливо на версії гри 1.4.

[zinc apex]

Hi Stalkers, what's up

[worn oar]

If something is up with something in a certain video, the author can edit it and re-upload or add a not of update. So, taking it down isn't really it

Well, you tagged him already, so it's up to him now

[ripe patrol]

i also gave Molit a heads up in DMs. It would be a nice video to release but maybe a week after 1.4 when the mods are up to date. I think a lot of people will install these mods and not know that under the hood things are broken

Ill deal with the Radium thing myself. Just a simple link and credit to my mod should be fine, not to be a stickler for rules and stuff but i did work my ass off for DWO

[neon nexus]

Привіт, дякую за інформацію! Тут справа в тому, що я відос робив ще 6 травня (до патчу 1.4), а випустив тільки зараз :) Не знав про конфлікти цих модів з 1.4, тоді я поки в своєму відео допишу, що деякі з модів поки що не адаптовані під 1.4

А Molit вже хай сам вирішить, що робити з публікацією в медіа. Я згоден, що вийшло трохи сумно, але хай все буде як має бути, а не так як хотілося б мені👍🏻

Ще раз дякую за інформацію!

[ripe patrol]

Шкода, що спустошення покинули ще до 1.3.2. Я думаю, що спільнота врешті-решт випустить патч для неї, тому що це одна з найкращих модернізацій.

also im translating this lol i dont know ukranian

[neon nexus]

Dealdystrike писав що зараз є деякі проблеми, але потім все буде гаразд, і він продовжить працювати над модом👍🏻

[neon nexus]

I understand, I'm also very bad in English🤣🤣🤣

[shut cosmos]

How's the combat ai now yall

[inner mural]

Its pretty good actually i tested the new update yesterday thing is i have bodies and artifacts spawning under the ground i think now...

[celest oracle]

Xbox version is updated if I remember correctly it's not the same as the PC version.

[zinc apex]

i want legends of the zone right meow! 😾

[magic coyote]

this is not 1.4

is 0.4

[outer aurora]

At this rate the game will be in 1.0 in another 6-7 months? That's not too bad

Cyberpunk took about 2 years to shift public sentiment around it after all

[magic coyote]

Honestly, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is more unfinished than Cyberpunk was at launch.

[outer aurora]

Nah, not even close

there's a reason the backlash for Cyberpunk was so insane

[empty gorge]

it had 10x the hype

[outer aurora]

game was well into unplayable territory, Stalker was also in a rough state in regards to bugs and progress blockers but not to that level

Don't get me wrong, Stalker 2 shouldn't have released in this state, a year in the oven extra would have done wonders, but it is not even close to just how bad Cyberpunk was on release.

[stiff pasture]

Didn’t cyberpunk also brick some devices

[outer aurora]

I don't know anything about that, but I wouldn't be surprised if some PS4's died trying to run it. Poor things

[stiff pasture]

Trying to run that game on a PS4 is like trying to get your 65 year old uncle to run a marathon

[outer aurora]

Cyberpunk was even pulled from online stores due to how unfinished it was

I love Cyberpunk almost as much as Stalker, but man, that launch backlash was so well deserved

In a way the games are very similar, very rough gems at launch that are getting more polished with each update. The foundations are objectively good, which is very promising.

[stiff pasture]

Stalker is undercooked, Cyberpunk was 100% raw at launch

[outer aurora]

Absolutely

[turbid hull]

Why the compiling shaders screen became even longer after 1.4?

[late yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-greengoblin-greengoblinlaugh-gif-25996189

Pretty cringe how my reaction gif just posted as a link

[granite mortar]

epic embed fail

[summer stream]

I know, I was saying it should have similar performance in the enhanced version

[worn oar]

It's normal.

First one after update is longer than usual, then it reverts back to being fast

[surreal yarrow]

God, still low fps on bases...

[proper wraith]

is there any channel to share our contents about the stalker 2 game?

[blazing fractal]

did compiling shaders always have music in it? or is this new?

[blazing fractal]

#📸┃screens_and_videos

[ripe patrol]

lets not forget that CP77 had Sony and Steam offer refunds for how bad the game released

[wet flume]

guys is there like a place or channel i can ask advice in to setup my rig with a 9070 correctly for this game. all i get is some truely terrible grainy graphics T-T i am getting desperate

[vale quartz]

U have to use upscalers like fsr or tsr

[wet flume]

quite frankly i feel like i have tried all of the settings but its just terrible allround

[ripe patrol]

Try Ultra+ mod

be wary, it makes the game more intensive on graphics so you wil have to lower graphics quality but the game will look much better even at lower settings

[vale quartz]

Idk, I have 7700xt and looks good
With a 9070 it should be even better with fsr4

[wet flume]

thats the thing. you have no idea how bad it looks

at this rate i am gonna buy a 5080. this kind of problem seems to haunt every game i play sigh

[wet flume]

on your card , in the adrenaline settings , what do you have enabled?

[surreal yarrow]

What is the best upscaler for rtx videocard?

[golden vector]

uhh just dlss

[main frigate]

Anyone playing with Ultra+ after 1.4 update?

My game is crashing on startup

[surreal yarrow]

But with dlaa? Because game continie to stutter when I turn it on

[golden vector]

not sure, dont have a nvidia card myself

[celest portal]

Omg
Keith

[celest oracle]

What is the most performance heavy area in the game? Any worse spot then Zalisya(The starting HuB)?

[ripe patrol]

Rostok

[celest oracle]

sadness, even in Zali, its borderline unplayable.

or not unplayable, but the experience is not great

[surreal yarrow]

It's just terrible that places that should be awesome to discover and see all the stuff there - just unplayable. Just like the Arena in Rostok. Where it starts laggin and you need to kill someone with one fps

[sullen pivot]

Hey gang. How is patch 1.4 feeling? Is now a good time to finally jump in or should I still keep holding out for more substantial updates?

[worn oar]

Make sure you have all mod paks gone and try again

[lucid cloud]

Hey

Where can I report bug ?

[pseudo rivet]

#s2-support

[lucid cloud]

Thank you stalker

[worn oar]

Fast

Swift

Like a lurker in the shadows

[pseudo rivet]

Sure thing

[worn oar]

Based

[lucid cloud]

I spent 30 minutes at the malachite trying to get through a door blocked by NPCs

That was too much

[summer tartan]

I'm +60 hours into the game and i really dislike how the psi-hallucinations work

[worn oar]

[coarse sparrow]

I am honestly looking forward to all A-life posts (reddit) when remakes drop on Steam

[wraith lintel]

me no can turn character 😦

[nocturne monolith]

I started a new game and in my opinion the combat has smoothened out a lot. Feels super satisfying. Depends on what youre looking for tho, if optimization was whats holding you back, id wait a bit longer

[sand fiber]

it is not a remake

[worn oar]

It is a remaster

[finite dragon]

Since the update the combatant ak doesn’t do any damage. I have some mods installed, but what did they update that would cause this? So I can find and edit the value

[sweet lintel]

Is alife working yet ? Is this a real stalker game yet?

[drifting niche]

What mods do you use?

[finite dragon]

Quite a few, some of them custom. I'm assuming it's coming from the weapongeneralsetupprototypes

[stiff pasture]

What in gods name are you on about

I feel like I just went nuts for a second

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[pseudo rivet]

Stay based, Ranjid. Have a great day

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-grip-get-a-life-get-over-it-ugh-no-gif-7883128

[fast stratus]

hi

[rapid warren]

KEITH

[sly matrix]

PRAISE KEITH

[rapid warren]

GLORY TO KEITH

[celest blaze]

I'D DIE FOR KEITH

[crisp ruin]

C++ King Rat Keith

[gritty orchid]

🥰

[sly matrix]

LORD KEITH BLESSETH US WITH HIS PRESENCE

[twilit mist]

Does the new update fix human combat?

like is it good now? more realistic and not just enemies bumrushing you?

[granite mortar]

[celest goblet]

It seems better in that regard yes

[random dirge]

Hello there. Does someone know how can i have my preorder/collector bonus on geforce now ? I only have the xbox base version there (collector is on my serieX)

[rapid warren]

Yes, it was the main focus of the update

I like how enemies behave way more, of course there is still a way to go but we're headed towards right direction

[copper echo]

It is much better. And bullets are more deadly. I found fights more drawn out and tougher. Still though, enemies know where you are even when they can't see you.

Enemies are still alerted to your presence by proximity, not by sound or sight.

[celest goblet]

I've snuck up on enemies plenty of times, though the game doesn't make it particularly easy or consistent

[bold sphinx]

RANJID MY MAN

[bold sphinx]

cat

[granite mortar]

Glorp

[twilit mist]

that sounds like a big improvement yeah

[stuck pewter]

i lobe clear sky

[sly matrix]

i lobe clear

[jolly jewel]

Everything just seems to perform so much better after that update. Not having mass frame drops from the get go, especially in Garbage and Pripyat.

[grave cliff]

performance is definitely better, I have S2 on Xbox and PC and noticed it on both

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/scabby-union-kello-rat-scab-gif-26201657

[drowsy crag]

Hi All, anybody not able to determine how long to sleep after patch 1.4?

[jolly jewel]

Definitely seeing marked improvements to ALife. Just finished a mission for Boozer to kill some tourists, and a roaming group of stalkers rolled up and helped. Combat is definitely more fierce than original release.

[drowsy crag]

Anybody?

[wraith socket]

I don't sleep in my game. When I see the sleepy symbol, I drink an energy drink and that solves the problem.

[ripe patrol]

Sleep length is 5 hours long as far as I remember

[drowsy crag]

😅

[wraith socket]

If you don't like going out at night and you want the dawn quicker, then by all means take a nap.

The speed of the game (hours passing) is 2.5 times faster, than how time travels in the trilogy games.

[drowsy crag]

Thanks!

[late anvil]

Have the hardcoded keybinds been fixed yet? Been waiting months to jump back into the game and I don't feel like downloading 160GB just to find out I still have to play with a controller.

[ripe patrol]

There's a mod which works very well, but nah still hard coded bindings for a lot of things

[coarse sparrow]

guys, do you know the global time of new stalker remasters?

like what time on 20th do they drop

[late anvil]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just retire this game since they obviously have no intentions of fixing something simple.

[ripe patrol]

You can revisit later when SDK is out

I'm sure someone will make a mod for that lol

[late anvil]

I shouldn't need to use mods to fix something that shouldn't be a thing in the first place lol

[ripe patrol]

Very true

[worn oar]

Wdym?

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

[wraith socket]

I have no idea what you are trying to say.
You haven't played the game for 6 months
Because you don't like the binding on the hotkeys?

[late anvil]

Certain things are hardcoded to certain keys, meaning I can't use those keys for my own custom binds.

[wraith socket]

Can you be more specific which thing you can't change from what key?

[late anvil]

No, not without downloading the game.

[wraith socket]

So you can't do something for a game you haven't downloaded?

[late anvil]

Maybe you should read some of my earlier comments again

[wraith socket]

Maybe you should just tell me now, instead of being so difficult for someone trying to help you.

[late anvil]

I have almost 70 hours in game. I do not have the game installed. I do not remember what keys are hardcoded to what, but I do know it's the numpad keys that are the issue.

I'm not downloading 160GB just to be "more specific"

The only relevant thing is that GSC hardcoded controls in 2025

Well, technically 2024

[wraith socket]

You act like I'm trying to interrogate you for some top-secret information.
I have changed just about all my key bindings for different keys,
So I don't understand why you are not able to do something so simple.

[late anvil]

If you don't understand then you aren't trying to use the keys I'm trying to use. It is very simple and would take GSC about 5 minutes to fix but they've made it clear that it's not a priority for them

[wraith socket]

If it's so simple, get to the point.
What action are you trying to do?
What key binding can you not change?
You are basically saying you can't remember
what you are trying to do, but see no problem
with making complaint after complaint, for something
you no longer can explain, for something you haven't downloaded.

[late anvil]

You really expect me to remember specific keys and keybinds that are an issue months after the last time I've played the game... LMFAO
I just stated the numpad keys are the issue. Why don't you jump ingame and start pressing them to see what they do?
You say I haven't downloaded the game, yet I've stated that I have almost 70 hours in it.
The hardcoded binds are a known issue, so far they have only fixed the flashlight AFAIK.
This is really not as deep as you're making it seem, you just don't understand so you don't see an issue.

[gritty orchid]

[late anvil]

If it's really so important to you that I download and install 160GB just to press the numpad keys to see what they're hardcoded to then I will.

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[wraith socket]

Don't be here complaining that GSC can fix something in 5 minutes
For something you've been incapable of explaining for 25 minutes.
You basically want to be here whining and be angry at GSC
For something so long ago, you can't even remember
the action or the key, that is so very important
you've totally lost the memory of what it was.

[late anvil]

lmfao you really are just twisting shit

I've explained it several times

NUMPAD KEYS

HARDCODED BINDS

PRESS THE NUMPAD KEYS INGAME, SEE WHAT THEY DO FOR YOURSELF

GSC absolutely could fix the issue in 5 minutes or so. Remove the hardcoded binds from all the keys, just like they did with the flashlight

I've done enough development in UE5 to know it's not rocket science

[wraith socket]

You've explained nothing.
I've asked you multiple times
what action you are trying to do
And you can't seem to remember
You just keep saying the same thing
Over and over. Like taking your car to a
Mechanic and he keeps asking what problem
You are having, and all you can say is "THE CAR".

[celest portal]

So um

Cupcakes anyone

[late anvil]

Jesus Christ lol
How about this:
I'm trying to use the NUMPAD KEYS for MY OWN CUSTOM BINDS, but GSC HARDCODED THEM to WHATEVER THEY HARDCODED THEM TO DO

[celest portal]

I also got drinks

And other appetizers

[late anvil]

I capslocked the important parts.

In summary: Has GSC fixed the hardcoded keybinds issue

[pseudo rivet]

So, the question is, can you change keybinds to numpad? I can check that out if you want

[late anvil]

@pseudo rivet don't bother, less than 5 minutes left on the download. I'll check it myself

I do appreciate the offer though

[pseudo rivet]

Aite, that's fair

Figured I could help save you the trouble, because it's definitely a big game to download kek

[normal comet]

pepsi?

[pseudo rivet]

Pepsi >

[celest portal]

Yes there's pepsi

[pseudo rivet]

Based

Very based

[normal comet]

hell yeah

[late anvil]

Yes well that's why I asked in the first place, but somebody couldn't seem to understand the issue and was crying about me not downloading the game

[wraith socket]

He's all yours.

[late anvil]

@wraith socket is still in the dark here apparently

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, just read it. Sorry to see that's the case

[late anvil]

It's okay, not all mods are born with brains

[pseudo rivet]

That's why I stick to playing STALKER Vanilla

[late anvil]

LMFAO game crashed on launch

[pseudo rivet]

O o f

[granite mortar]

You got medovnik cake?

[pseudo rivet]

Which flavors?

[late anvil]

Crashed again on launch. Very cool

Probably residual mods left from back when I did play the game though

[wraith socket]

Don't blame me you couldn't remember what you were trying to do.

[normal comet]

your pfp is scaring me

[pseudo rivet]

I dunno, the question seemed pretty straightforward

[nimble cipher]

blumpkinking87 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pseudo rivet]

Oop

[late anvil]

I told you what I was trying to do several times. The only thing I can't remember is what the keys are hardcoded to do. It's really not that hard to understand, lil' bro

[normal comet]

you want to change what numpad keys do, but cant do it?

[late anvil]

And like I said, you could jump in game and start pressing the numpad keys to find out what they do, instead of insisting that I download and instal 160GB just to hop in game for 10 seconds

[wraith socket]

I'm not your lil' bro.

[late anvil]

Oh no, you can bind actions to the numpad keys. The issue is GSC has hardcoded them to other actions that you can not remove from those keys

[late anvil]

You're the server's lil' bro.

[pseudo rivet]

Changing keybinds in HoC are unfortunately really, really bad. Unfortunately, even if you do change keys, some things are just hardcoded to that key, no matter what

[granite mortar]

Smh
Would never happen in Peak Sky

[normal comet]

I think im starting to get it
(forgive my lack of reading comprehension)

[pseudo rivet]

Like Hold Breath, for example

[late anvil]

Compiling shaders now. Soon I'll be able to be very specific about what the numpad keys are hardcoded to do.

[normal comet]

you can change run from shift to other thing but not hold breath from shift to other thing?

[late anvil]

Oh shit, I think GSC actually did fix the issue

[pseudo rivet]

For example, I tried to switch Shift and X to the old Trilogy controls (X being Sprint, Shift being walking), but if you try to bind Hold Breath to one of these when you've changed it, it just unbinds the other keybind. Why can't I use the same key for different commands?

[late anvil]

There's a new section in the keybinds for "Camera Controls", which use Numpad_1,2,3,5

Which are likely the keys that I was having issues with months ago (but I guess I'm expected to remember specifics like that even though I haven't played the game in months)

Oh god, what did they do to the reflections?

Water puddles and water on my guns looks like TV static lmfao

Full Epic settings, DLSS Quality

Wish I could post a screenshot here

[pseudo rivet]

You can post them in #📸┃screens_and_videos

Or maybe #❔┃seeking-for-advice?

If there's a fix for it

[late anvil]

I'll try the second channel, thanks. It looks the same with DLAA as well. Turning off DLSS fixed it, but then the game runs like dog shit

[pseudo rivet]

Cheers

[dire dagger]

Lumen moment

The reflections in the game are just really bad in current form

[late anvil]

They look fine when not using DLSS

Lumen is garbage though

As far as reflections go, anyway

Even with FSR they look fine. Apparently it's a DLSS moment lmfao

[granite kettle]

Spoiler
You shoot people

[bitter garden]

Aww man i though this was a cozy game

[granite kettle]

ඞ

[bitter garden]

Fr now, any tips for bloodsuckers, im in the spoilers ||garbage zone currently ||

[granite kettle]

Gun and bullets
Like deadass

That's how I did , spray and pray and It worked

[bitter garden]

Ah

[granite kettle]

What are your thoughts about the game for now

[worn oar]

[bitter garden]

I love it, ik comparing games isnt good but imo its everything fallout isnt, quests are engaging with multiple ways to finish, more realistic guns and firefights are actually challenging and require thinking

[granite kettle]

So true

[granite kettle]

Fish

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/799493990709198890/802347767056826388/697995591921172532-1-5-13.gif

Aw man

[bitter garden]

I hope I find a decent sniper soon, i got the svd but only 12 rounds

[granite kettle]

I'm not into snipers but you will find some good ones. I'm more into pistols

[bitter garden]

Rn im using the valik lumox ak, decent enough

[granite kettle]

Bad weapon in my opinion

[bitter garden]

Its not bad when you get the recoil pattern down

[granite kettle]

True but I'm more of a bolt action sniper guy

[bitter garden]

Very fun

[stiff pasture]

I need to give the 701 a fair shake this run

[worn oar]

Already doing it hehe

Made sure to use different stuff this time

[granite kettle]

Ain't worth the 180 GB tho

[stiff pasture]

This is why I use an external to store any games I gotta delete on console for big games like S2

[nimble cipher]

kingbubblez has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[granite kettle]

True but damn man 180?

[stiff pasture]

I play destiny, I’m used to fat games

Also the external is over 6 terabytes lmao, I’ve got space to spare

[granite kettle]

That's the problem
You play destiny

[stiff pasture]

Better Destiny then cod

[granite kettle]

Man they all mid af

[stiff pasture]

Eh I have fun with it, it’s a game I can just turn my brain off while playing

[granite kettle]

True

[bitter garden]

Its only 145 on xbox

[bitter garden]

Very hot take

[celest portal]

I am late af on answering this (outside and driving). But yes, any cake in the world.

[celest portal]

Whatever you have in mind it will appear in front of you

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/stimpson-j-cat-ren-%26-stimpy-2024-ren-y-stimpy-ren-and-stimpy-gif-8450169621152606322

[sand fiber]

better warframe than destiny

[stiff pasture]

I play both

[kindred drum]

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[lofty fossil]

guns i would like to see in stalker 2: the boxy/angular ak 12 prototype with the L shaped square stock, the sr-1 vektor/gyurza as it looks like a modern makarov, sr2m veresk, toz 106 and vpo "california compliant" hunting ak

thats about it really!

if they add the vpo and toz 106 i would like it to be with a black polymer stock

[hazy helm]

low level bait

[lofty fossil]

how is this bait

[hazy helm]

maybe you get better bait

[lofty fossil]

wtf are you talking about

i gave my suggestion for guns to be added in future updates. it isnt bait. how is it bait

[hazy helm]

how is the sun sunny?

bc it's shiny, and this comment stinks so it's bait

[celest blaze]

why would GSC add cali compliant AK?

cali weapons are horrifically bad

[lofty fossil]

it was a joke. the vpo 101 is basically a california compliant ak. its a semi auto ak with a rifle stock and low capacity magazine

[fair jackal]

the SR-1 Vektor looks ugly.

[hazy helm]

it's bait of course

[lofty fossil]

no it wasnt bait. i really want all those guns to be added to stalker 2

[hazy helm]

nobody has a bad opinion online, its all trolls trying to bait people with intentionally bad opinions

of course

[lofty fossil]

bro stop

[opal rune]

Is there any hotfix for patch 1.4?

[hazy helm]

in the works

[fair jackal]

think i saw the SR2M Veresk in some video on some modded stalker thing.

[lofty fossil]

iwp

i know the sr guns from iwp. i loved the look of them and wanted them in stalker 2

[fair jackal]

but what if, PP2000

[grim rivet]

Make game good when GSC

[lofty fossil]

that too

[celest blaze]

we need the AN-94

[lofty fossil]

that too

[pseudo rivet]

IL 86 when

[grim rivet]

we need the cybertruck

[lofty fossil]

not that. i like it but it doesnt fit stalker

[celest blaze]

never that gun is ass

[pseudo rivet]

Cope

IL 86 is based

[lofty fossil]

f2000 when

[celest blaze]

based on garbage fr

[fair jackal]

doesn't fit stalker despite being in the 3 original games?

[pseudo rivet]

Garbage is based

[celest blaze]

AN-94 bread and butter rifle i beat the trilogy with it

[hazy helm]

you're the guy that wanted the AK12 in the game
sit down

[pseudo rivet]

AC-96/2, you mean

[grim rivet]

AN-94 is kinda a crazy pick

[fair jackal]

i'd have liked to see more like, lmg guns.

[lofty fossil]

the ak 12 prototype is anguler like the gauss rifle in stalker 2. i thought it would be a good addition even with unrealistic such as the gauss rifle in stalker 2

[grim rivet]

At least be original 😔

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-yes-giggle-gif-13898844

[pseudo rivet]

Like, I understand y'all liking the AC-96/2 in SoC and CS

But even despite me saying CoP is the most balanced, it's kinda bad in CoP

[hazy helm]

yes I want the AK12, why? well the gauss rifle, wdym the gauss rifle is a experimental rifle that uses artifacts for it's base?

[lofty fossil]

the design.

[hazy helm]

bait intensifies, its now med-to-low quality

[lofty fossil]

the gauss rifle in stalker 2 is very boxy/angular. like the ak 12 prototype. the one im talking about not the later ones or the production model

[fair jackal]

what does the design of an AK12 have to do with a technological Gauss Gun

[lofty fossil]

the gauss rifles design is out of place in stalker 2. it looks plastic and cartoony

[hazy helm]

If you keep talking I may level you up to medium tier bait

It's an upgrade

[hazy helm]

That's the point

[nimble cipher]

felicheat has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ripe patrol]

[lofty fossil]

bring back the original design man

i hate the new gauss rifle.

[fair jackal]

i like the new design lol.

[pseudo rivet]

TrilOG design better

[ripe patrol]

Chill out dude, the guy was just mentioning which guns he'd like to be included in the game. Why are you being so rude?

[hazy helm]

I mean this would have weight but then you see the guy behind it wants the ak12 and VPO in the game

[lofty fossil]

hes a mod he would ban me for not having the same opinion

[hazy helm]

wouldn't you like to know

[lofty fossil]

yes

[hazy helm]

People keep saying this and it has yet to happen

[lofty fossil]

i do not like the ram 2. i do not like the stalker 2 gauss rifle design. and i especially dont like the lack of handguns. but i cant do anything about it i just have to not play the game i guess ( i want to play it)

[ripe patrol]

This discord server has a huge problem with chronically online rude people

[lofty fossil]

am i rude

[hazy helm]

I guess you'd like me to ban you, tough luck bro I'll keep being rude and you'll being in the server

[ripe patrol]

Nah not you, or at least not that I know of

[hazy helm]

THE HUMANITY

[lofty fossil]

no i dont. i was fearing you would power trip

[pseudo rivet]

Average Discord experience

Or honestly, average online experience kek

[fair jackal]

i once got warned for questioning why someone was using their role to post pictures in the channels we can't and it turned into an ego thing like "it's to let people know they're being watched since i am now here"

[lofty fossil]

feels bad man

[pseudo rivet]

Ayo I'd like context on that lmao

[ripe patrol]

No I wouldn't like you to ban me, and I'm not talking about you being a mod or whatever, I'm pointing out how you're being rude for no apparent reason

[lofty fossil]

i like the vpo. i like the toz 106 and the other guns i mentioned. sure those 2 wouldnt make sense in stalker 2 but what about the other ones i mentioned :(((((

[pseudo rivet]

Ayo OICW in HoC when?

[hazy helm]

[pseudo rivet]

OICW my beloved

[ripe patrol]

I wish there was a higher tier AK weapon later in the game

[lofty fossil]

if they added that. they have to add the f2000

[hazy helm]

yes, tahts the point

[fair jackal]

i still want the RPD.... 😔 and also the RPM-74 to be done justice and fed properly

[lofty fossil]

i want the beretta m9 back

[hazy helm]

you'll barely use it

[pseudo rivet]

There's definitely a lack of pistols

[lofty fossil]

9mm is better then 9x18

[hazy helm]

guns suck in any stalker game so the focus should be maintained in main guns as that is what youll actually use

[pseudo rivet]

HoC should've had more pistols fr

[lofty fossil]

atleast 7-8 handguns and 3 revolvers. a starter revolver a high capacity revolver and a powerful revolver