⭐┃nospoilers_general

[worn oar]

Possibly part of another quest or activity

[nimble cipher]

weskin1910 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[prisma cargo]

why doesn't wolf praise us for Good word usage? Where's my participation trophy?

[crisp ruin]

[wraith socket]

My Internet searches all claim it is a bugged PDA.

No one has come forward to say they discovered it was actually needed. So far.

I still hope you are right.

[worn oar]

I'm a bit away from home, so I can't show you my inventory. However, as far as I'm concerned, I did a fair amount of exploration and looting, and I'm pretty sure nothing stayed after serving its purpose. What I have on me does not extend beyond what I actually need (no stuck items whatsoever).

[coarse sparrow]

While I can't share any news or updates, I just want to let you know that we are fully aware of this request.

[finite dragon]

I'm on Xbox One and I want to know if purchasing the games one by one standalone for 20 bucks each is worth it. It's my only real option for now, but I'd like to know if the standalone versions have mod support. Can you guys help me out?

[wraith socket]

The PDA belonged to a Bandit named Mug.

[worn oar]

Where did you get it?

[wraith socket]

From his dead body.

[worn oar]

If it's there, then there is a high chance it's for an event like quest

Or mission related

Progress through story and see if it's still marked as quest item or not

[worn oar]

Yeah, but I meant where as in region, place.

[wraith socket]

I was supposed to pay him for information (I did) or choose the dialogue option to attack (I didn't) however events unfolded later where I got into a fight with him and all his buddies, so I didn't get it from him in the normal means. The game knows I paid him so the game thinks I should not have it, therefore no one needs it. (Lesser Zone at the Radiation Sign Depot)

[worn oar]

Maybe it is a bug, but for now let's assume it'll go away after few story missions. (If not, report it to mol1t)

[wraith socket]

The first and last time I paid someone for information.

[wraith socket]

Thanks for your help.

[worn oar]

Most welcome

My second playthrough kinda gave me some fair amount of knowledge as I did things more slowly and with the intent of learning stuff

It's going great

I started to become reliable in terms of lore and stuff

[wraith socket]

You are always reliable.🤠

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kissing-cat-sniffing-gif-16809514875727716561

[drowsy blade]

the sniffer

[sly matrix]

Beeg sneef

[zinc apex]

ohohoh el gato!

[summer stream]

I played through the legends of the zone trilogy on series X, so I can’t speak for how they are on last gen consoles, but they were well worth the money for me. Ran smoothly with very few bugs, controls felt natural. Turn aim assist off though

[worn oar]

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-gif-19801862

[dawn vessel]

does/did anyone get constant crashes in the mission for the snork cave i cant get past the cutscene without my game crashing

[placid spoke]

Sorry babe the buket stays on during sex

[zinc apex]

why is this so mesmerizing

[finite dragon]

Thanks! Have you played with mods? If so, are there many available mods?

I want to buy the single games but I'm afraid they might not have mods. Not that I need them.

[placid spoke]

I think emissions are bugged for me

[coarse sparrow]

While I can't share any news or updates, I just want to let you know that we are fully aware of this request. (с) GSC

[celest blaze]

Right ? I love it lol

[worn oar]

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[zinc apex]

i'm playing a stalker pen and paper in chatgpt. that's lit manes

[crystal merlin]

I got an emission right after the revival of a certain faction, so it doesn't, at least for me.
Good news is that one side mission after this seems to be fixed

[placid spoke]

I love slug shotguns theyre so fun

[normal comet]

oh geez dude

[wraith socket]

I'm just taking my time, I'm in no hurry. Just doing a lot of side-missions and exploring all the locations, multiple times.

I'm still on my first game.

[normal comet]

dang

[drowsy blade]

I just finished the last ending, so that's all of them done for me

I'm at 277 hours. So I'm done focusing on the main story, my next playthrough (after a small break to try out some mods for the trilogy and play XrayMPE with friends) will focus much more on exploration and getting the last achievements that I need

[tawny flume]

Imagine if they added dragons breath

[twilit lynx]

Anyone know how to get weird bolt?? I’ve just tried with my new gear (diamond exoskeleton) but I still get one tapped once the tornado pasts over me when I get weird bolt.

[celest portal]

Timing needs to be perfect, once you get to that crane jump off of the right location (after getting the bolt) and you'll land on that anomaly thing that saves you from dying.

[twilit lynx]

Ok didn’t know there was an anomaly at the bottom. Saw a vid saying to just stay at the top of the crane and let it pass you. Thanks

[celest portal]

Yeah, I saw guides that tell me to just walk down the crane. And I kept getting one tapped. Noticed there's that anomaly thing somewhere below the crane.

[placid spoke]

Bapta

[twilit lynx]

Also does it actually need to be charged up?

[celest portal]

I heard you'd need to stand outside during emissions, but honestly never really tried it. Didn't really use it much.

[placid spoke]

The sledgehammer is surprisingly cheap to repair and its delicious with slugs

[wanton grove]

this games gonna be so good in 3 to 5 years bruh

[placid spoke]

I think stalker 2 and last of us 2 are tied for the best graphics ive ever seen

[zealous pumice]

What about rdr2, for 2018 it's really nice

[placid spoke]

Speaking of "for the time", back in the day battlefield 3 used to BLOW ME AWAY and that game still looked gorgeous on xbox 360 just a couple months ago

[pseudo night]

i just got on my computer after 2 months and there is a 280gb update for stalker, is it worth just reinstalling the game and if so will my save save

[mild palm]

I think it’s better to restart the game for all the fixes to take effect

[sand fiber]

stopped at hans having a bath, don't have much time for kcd1 anymore :S

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/1221-gif-9312827146055559643

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-cat-blinking-cat-funny-cat-funny-cat-blinking-gif-27202865

[finite dragon]

you have to start a new game to get all the fixes like the dude above said, i'd recommend it

[warped rover]

STALKER HOC 2 a

[mild palm]

Anton knows where it’s at

[warped rover]

he does

[sacred linden]

Is it me or did they remove the penetration bar when viewing weapons? All I have now is damage, handling, rate of fire, range and accuracy.

Never mind they just changed it from penetration to handling lol

[mild palm]

Which makes sense. (????????)

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rat-drive-rat-driving-rat-car-gif-26515012

[humble cobalt]

Hey! Im 19 hours into the game and I’ve unintentionally sided with the ward when ive showed them the unusual pda (also scar/spark) is there a way to side with the sparks mid game?

I feel like ive missed so many side quests/lore by siding the ward

[sand fiber]

who cares about those s2 factions anyway 💅 💅

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[humble cobalt]

I wanted a neutral path but i guess ended in ward

[humble cobalt]

I do

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[sand fiber]

they should've just let freedom control the entire zone tbh 💅 💅 💅

[celest portal]

Once you made that choice, I am not sure. There is also no 'neutral path' really. But if you're really worried, your choices right now won't change what ending you'll get. Only at ||Subtle Matter|| quest is where you should think about who you're going to side with.

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-animals-reaction-wow-surprised-gif-15933824

[celest portal]

Omg
Keith

[finite dragon]

aayyy its 4:20

[humble cobalt]

So thats another chance to choose which fraction (spark or ward)?

[celest portal]

Yeah, the choices you make before that point will only change how the story moves along, such as some quests being slightly easier, accessible locations, who remains angry at you, etc. I would decide who you align with mostly though, helps you with choices you're going to make while you play, instead of trying to be neutral.

[spiral axle]

Stalk tuah

[celest portal]

Hello ex Ward boy

[finite dragon]

Rich Tuah 😂

[spiral axle]

You're confusing me for someone else mate

[celest portal]

Not this again

[spiral axle]

Again? You're insane.

[humble cobalt]

My guy thankss

[swift magnet]

What a win Stalker 2 would have been on a Cryengine...

[placid spoke]

Skeefa privet snorke artifacto staLkr

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[summer mesa]

A-life / shutters and performance is fixed in this game? I've been playing at release last time

[rapid warren]

Keith is back boys!!!

[mild palm]

Negative

[summer mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/julesmaru-really-gif-20304655

I wanted to complete the game but the shutters just killed fun of playing and wanted to do now

[mild palm]

If you’ve got the patience, coming back to the game in about a year would be a good move, I think

[summer mesa]

At least i would be able to start all over again. Because I would forget the story in most cases

[mild palm]

Yeah, same here

[gritty orchid]

[thick zodiac]

love this style

[thick zodiac]

Stalker 2 has story???

[celest blaze]

Yeah but I wish CoP had a story

[thick zodiac]

you are military u go boom boom

[celest blaze]

@granite mortar can you dm me the erm anomalies move strelok cop pic

[summer mesa]

For me its Quite nice story line, the game its self Is bad

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[sand fiber]

shuddup cop has a good story 💅

degtyarov's wacky adventures 💅💅

[worthy zodiac]

Well, at least side quests are richer than main quests from previous games

At least something... (Although I didn't like how "friendly" is the environment on Zaton and Jupiter)

[sand fiber]

i don't really like the direction CoP was going in aesthetically tbh, it works for the game itself but ehghhhhh

god i wish the zone was wackier and more mysterious like in oblivion lost

[worthy zodiac]

More mysterious would be good. Since the first game I never liked that it feels like "larpers on safari" instead of "dangerous fuсkery all over the place and people dying because of random shit like touching a tree or something"

[sand fiber]

getting your entire insides rearranged because you took a wrong step 🥰🥰

[sand fiber]

(sexual)

[mild palm]

Mol1t

[worthy zodiac]

I agree with this statement

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-furious-cat-cat-angry-fury-gif-23071861

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-mei-mei-vro-dumbbell-training-gif-10134648312336833177

[sly matrix]

Bro getting shredded

[crisp ruin]

Cat gone crazy lmao

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[mellow locust]

got a 9070 XT today and wanted to try FSR 4. I did activate it in the driver and activated 3.1 in the game but the driver still says its not active. I also switched between "home" and "graphic" in the driver to update the ui. is there a bug about that?

[dire dagger]

It’s working it’s just a bug with adrenaline

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[mellow locust]

so amd needs to fix it? is it a display error or is it a functional error?

what I mean by that is is it actually working and adrenaline is just not showing the green check mark or is adrenaline buggy and FSR 4 actually does not work at the moment with Stalker 2?

[dire dagger]

It is working

I promise you it is

[mellow locust]

hard to confirm haha

so amd gotta fix the checkmark display

[dire dagger]

I have a 9070 xt

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-cat-gif-26041269

[dire dagger]

https://youtu.be/K0Pu5BNy3Ds?feature=shared

[mellow locust]

but even in his video the check mark comes up I know the video and did everything like he did

The checkmark never comes up as green.

[dire dagger]

Dunno then

It works for me

[mellow locust]

maybe I gotta restart or something

[crystal merlin]

Ok so Deggy Corp soldiers carry tactical helmets with them lol

[mild palm]

What

[hazy jewel]

Hardware ray tracing ?

[celest blaze]

yes

[gritty orchid]

Baked in lighting

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-gif-16508948274886257497

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[gritty orchid]

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/biolit-gif-14971939248881135206

[dark sedge]

lets get stalker 3 secrets of the oasis

[finite dragon]

Stalker 3 when ?

[celest blaze]

2027

[dire dagger]

2033

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-gif-16508948274886257497

[drowsy blade]

STALKER: Metro 2033 if you would

[mild palm]

Oh man I wish I could load up Stalker 2 right now and just watch the world unfold around me

[sand fiber]

stlkaer

[mild palm]

Am I allowed to post YT links or will Wolf spazz out?

[sand fiber]

you are

[mild palm]

I must use this new power deliberately and sparingly

[celest blaze]

dont ask people that

[nocturne monolith]

U can get a trial on gamepass for a dollar 💔

[dire dagger]

begging for money will result in a ban

[sly matrix]

Just not to promote your own content, unless you get the content creator role. And your links won't embed

[celest blaze]

yeah get it on gamepass next time its a ban

[mild palm]

That’s very USA of you!

[dire dagger]

it is

[celest blaze]

go buy him the game then and be non US

[nocturne monolith]

🦅

[mild palm]

Solid copy

[celest blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558004041691430912/1218305979767197816/juh_cat.gif

[mild palm]

I might have considered that, honestly, but I just came across this video: https://youtu.be/f2GnzJCUxYM

and I kinda don’t feel like it atm

[celest blaze]

man idk how yall watch negative gaming content non stop

[sand fiber]

westerners are so brainwashed they don't know about piracy ong 😭😭🙏🙏

[celest blaze]

dont talk about piracy

[mild palm]

I don’t! But can you find recent S2 content on YT that isn’t people reading patch notes or criticising?

[celest blaze]

i truthfully dont even watch any S2 content i havent played any stalker in a long time

[sand fiber]

why would you ever willingly consume hate content

[mild palm]

I … I’m a hater. You got me. :/

[sand fiber]

stop being one 😭
they manufacture rage from nothing

[celest blaze]

also 🏴‍☠️ is a great way to get viruses or mfs to use your pc to mine crypto steam sales makes games dirt cheap alot of pirates lack good computer safety just running random exe files from strangers lol

[mild palm]

As they should! I like the 28 x later series and I’m on board with bringing it to life!

[sand fiber]

also 🏴‍☠️ is a great way to get viruses
i mean if you're fuсking dumb yeagh

though i wouldn't put it past westerners to not know of adblockers and like, guides existing

[mild palm]

Harsh

[celest blaze]

westeners? i mean easterners are the ones often being scummy lets be real here

[mild palm]

I used to destroy ye olde Win XP back in elementary school via these things. Eurofag here

[celest blaze]

east is full of scum and corruption

[sand fiber]

don't worry US got enough of it too, esp recently 💅💅

anyway

stlkerkfkkker

[celest blaze]

yeah back to stalker

im letting stalker 2 cook for alot longer before playing

maybe 2027

[mild palm]

Yeah. I resent that I am forced to do the same

[celest blaze]

same 100% i paid 130 cad and im trying not to rage haha

i am praying and coping..

[sand fiber]

i wanna play Nier right now kindaaaa, but i'm not done with KCD :<<

[celest blaze]

heard cool things about nier

[mild palm]

Nier Automata? That game is something else. It’s niche, but it’s very special and worthwhile

[sand fiber]

yes, yoko taro is a commie, it's bound to be good 💅💅

buuuut i think i wanna play drakengard and replicant before automata

[mild palm]

If you don’t know: you’re supposed to replay it a few times

Drakengard is afaik only very loosely tied to the series. And I only played Automata, though I watched lore videos of them all. They are videogame art

[sand fiber]

i've only watched videos of them
they are videogame art

[mild palm]

I played Automata. It’s a rare breed of a game

Not a fan of the Japanese anime style or whatever, but it is an intellectual and emotional treat

[sand fiber]

i have some insane ideas about putting nier back until i learn JA but ughhhhh
that won't happen for another 2-3 years i think

[mild palm]

My advice is to engage with the series when you have time to spare. They are deep and replays are integral to the experience

Another hidden gem is Spec Ops: The Line. Looks like an action game but it’s much more than that, story-wise. And once you delve into the theories on Youtube. Om nom nom

[sand fiber]

i already basically know its entire story unfortunately so ehh

[mild palm]

Well my mind was blown after I’d played it through and then went online to check out what people had to say. So many missed details. Just an awesome game

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[sand fiber]

haiii chymo haiii hi hiaii

[mild palm]

But the way it slowly transformed from an action shooter to a psychological thriller in the end was a unique experience. It wouldn’t have been the same, had I known of it beforehand

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[thick zodiac]

|---/|
| o_o |
_^_/

[granite mortar]

hi bestie 💅💅

[sand fiber]

STLKKREKRKREKALLARKAK!!!

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/itzillit-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-1344318570403703586

[sly matrix]

BANCAKED

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-silly-cat-cat-locked-in-lock-tf-in-gif-12487162223602060140

[tawny flume]

Add squirrel mutant

Climb on u and bite u

[gritty orchid]

i want keith in stalker 2

[north violet]

Well, at least according to the anecdotes I've read, for some people it will perform a restart to finish installing updates while they're in the middle of something.

I mean...maybe they're lying, but I've seen enough people talking about it to believe that it's a real phenomenon, though I've never personally witnessed it.

If it was available, I'd get a degree in Information Technology or something similar.

But yeah, the support side of things seems...safer at the moment compared to software development.

[tawny flume]

Not played since the previous big patch thought about hoping on

[celest portal]

Damn, you replied to a 2 day old comment, lol. But yeah I've never witnessed it happening randomly either.

[north violet]

Yeah sorry, I've been busy irl.

[mellow locust]

damn I had to redownload stalker 2 completely since my graphisccard change to make FSR 4 work. Though there seems to be a bug with it. When turning the camera the grass looks all fuzzy and it looks like as if there is a pixelated circle that is homing in on a center becoming smaller and vanish is that bug known? its like a weird artifact

going on FSR quality is making the problem visible. GOing on Native AA is fixing it

[celest portal]

Omg
Keith

[celest portal]

Not bothered by it really, I just never had anyone reply back if it has been that long.

[dense meteor]

STALKER 2 does not have ALife.
If you want to see ALife in action, watch this video: https://youtu.be/VcIeAEm5FBk

[placid spoke]

I want skifs pistol lore

[celest portal]

I want Skif lore

[pseudo rivet]

I want pistol lore

[stiff pasture]

Which one lmao

[pseudo rivet]

Pistol

[celest portal]

Pistol

[jade geyser]

I want pistol

[worn oar]

P: petruha
I: in
S: swamps
T: taking
O: on
L: leshi

[pseudo rivet]

[worn oar]

Deal with it

You asked for lore and I gave you that

[pseudo rivet]

Fair

Petruha losing fr

[worn oar]

Definitely, otherwise we wouldn't have seen leshi in the AW

And petruha doing the Rambo joke on our boy in Cordon

What a funny man

[silver warren]

Games still busted

Almost worse than before. In about half an hour, I just had enemy sounds get stuck looping after they died, an event where the ground shook and it never stopped shaking after the event, and a gun model disappear. Although the last one was probably due to a mod

[wraith socket]

@silver warren You say "Although the last one was probably due to a mod". Could be many of your problems.

People all the time complain about the Trilogy games being bugged. After talking to them further, then they admit to massive Mods on the base games.

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[silver warren]

I'm only running three mods. Only one of which could impact the weapons like that but all the mod does is make attachments more usable

[idle summit]

Yes unfortunately the weapon tweaking mods will make some weapon models disappear. I had to put mine off. @silver warren

[silver warren]

I'm thinking I may have to do the same. Sucks because I never had any issues till 1.3

[idle summit]

Yes we will have to wait a long time until the game gets stabilised and requires only rare updates, then mods will also last longer

[silver warren]

I'm putting it down until the dev kit is released. Then I'll wait a year for modders to turn it in to the best Stalker game ever

[idle summit]

Sounds correct, I also have it uninstalled currently

Until reasonable a life is made at least

[silver warren]

I had full faith in GSC and waited patiently and kept playing. The fact we can't even get a road map and it's still this rough has comletely turned me off from it

Gameplay wise I still haven't seemed to have as many issues as others at 90 hrs. My main problem is A-Life, No roadmap, and they're still breaking stuff for the sake of keeping it playable on console

[nimble moon]

Does physical protection have a hard cap?

[crisp ruin]

@celest portal I have skif lore

He is finally move to new apartment

[celest portal]

Lmao I also tried to recreate him in inzoi last night. Took me nearly an hour.

[zealous pumice]

we've been saying since it released its not gonna be at that point for at least a year, maybe even 2

its absolutely ridiculous but its the state of gaming in 2025

[static compass]

[finite dragon]

I just want to kill agatha
and then reload my save game and do it again

which is funny cause i prefer Ward over the other factions 😂 loyal but ill betray the hand that feeds them LOL

[empty echo]

if u like the ward, y dont u like Agatha?

[finite dragon]

the colonel and his men are just soldiers doing a job for what they think is the best for humanity, at least, thats my impression (i dont think agatha is being straight-forward with the colonel, as all relationships go with the trickle of information slowly turning to a drip as it funnels down)

Agatha on the other hand, she always comes off very cunning and underhanded.

The Colonel gives me a feeling of, hm

he knows what he wants, he knows his goals, he knows how to achieve them and aint a DAMN THING gonna stand in his way

agatha just makes me think shes constantly lying and manipulating

Sort of like if you went and met a captain or some dude from your local army barracks, and then directly after that went and talked to a politician lol

[empty echo]

well, why would she tell YOU anything but what you absolutely need to know?

the ward itself barely trusts you, let alone her

[finite dragon]

I don't think she really tells anyone anything other than what she wants them to know, even the colonel

the only part that makes me doubt this is putting him in the pod

you'd think he would have to have some sort of knowledge to be put in that position by the board

iunno they just seem like two entirely different personalities that want different things

[celest blaze]

id consider moving this to #☢┃stalker-general

[empty echo]

sort of
i'm going to go now anyway

[finite dragon]

Oop I did not realise what channel we were in lol

[celest blaze]

all good dont worry

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-mystery-machine-cartoons-gif-18861458

[languid obsidian]

I havent played since release, has the performance been improved at all?

[celest goblet]

Somewhat in some areas. Several memory leaks have been addressed. It's not that different otherwise though.

[nimble moon]

Burnt Forest always scares the shit out of me with those sporadic lightning strikes when everything is nice and quiet.

[celest goblet]

Mostly it has been bug fixes and tweaks to some systems

[languid obsidian]

gotcha, gonna wait for a year before coming back then

[empty echo]

no optimisations yet, that's what im waiting for

[wraith socket]

You can wait for this, and you can wait for that. Or instead, you could be having a great time with the game.

[placid spoke]

Is skif John Stalker

[silver warren]

Yes

[placid spoke]

Wait they tried to put nfts in stalker 2??🤣🤣

[celest portal]

Chupacabra in the Zone

[placid spoke]

Why is the knife an American m4 bayonet instead of an ak bayonet which is more common in the region?

[mild palm]

I know, right?

[wraith socket]

I thought this was closer to a Chupacabra.

[austere garnet]

Radioactive goat suckers

[wraith socket]

I always like to have my morning coffee first, before I start talking.

[sly matrix]

Damn straight

[late hazel]

Haven't played in a very long time, was waiting for A-Life to really be where it's supposed to, how is it currently?

[sly matrix]

Still needs work

But for.me it was perfectly.playable and enjoyable

[celest portal]

Game is playable, a lot of bug fixes. Not much on a life yet though.

[wraith socket]

It will keep you busy.

[kindred drum]

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[pseudo rivet]

But here's the muncher

[placid spoke]

Sledgehammer slug is my new favorite gun besides my beloved baby buket

Emissions are fixed unless this is a scripted one or they just randomly started working again

[sly matrix]

hmm

sell me slug rounds

never used them much

[placid spoke]

I love em in just about every shotgun you just gotta be smart with your shots

Buckshot is probably more efficient but i also just think they're really cool

[sly matrix]

When I tried them I found their effective range really disappointing

[placid spoke]

Agreed i think they should get a buff to be a bit more realistic

[pseudo rivet]

So, slugs are still like the TrilOG?

[sly matrix]

slugs work pretty well on longer ranges in the trilOG

[wraith socket]

Did you get that special Buket?

[placid spoke]

Yes the spitter is great for early game and it looks cooler than the regular one but the stats on it are bugged

It has a suppressor but it doesnt have the increased range of a suppressor

[wraith socket]

I upgraded both of them and they seem to be equal.

Just the Spitter has a different color hand grip.

[pseudo rivet]

I personally find them pretty bad

[placid spoke]

Did you have a suppressor on the regular buket when comparing them?

[wraith socket]

Yeah, the Slugs are terrible on mutants. I just prefer buckshot all the time.

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah

[placid spoke]

I think the only shotgun i prefer buck on is the texan

[pseudo rivet]

Wait, the Spitter doesn't have a suppressor, right?

It's just a compensator

[placid spoke]

I thought it was a suppressor and ive heard from others that it was a suppressor but stealth is basically non existent so i couldn't really tell anyway😭

[sly matrix]

oh yeah, slugs are for humans. no argument there

[pseudo rivet]

Can you put a suppressor on it? The standard Buket S-2 can

[placid spoke]

Nope

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, it's a compensator

I believe some other weapons have this too

Like the MAC

Compared to the Gangster

MAC can also fit a suppressor

Gangster has a compensator

[wraith socket]

Just noticed they are not the same. As soon as you add the suppressor to the regular Buket, it's range actually increases over the Spitter.

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, they still have different playstyles

While an extreme example, take CoP's Viper 5 and Frasier for example

The Frasier is chambered for .45, but cannot fire in bursts

[wraith socket]

I can only carry so many weapons, and I compared the Buket to the Viper and the Viper won for my everyday carry.

[pseudo rivet]

The Viper 5 can be put into 3-round bursts

And Silencers decrease your recoil for the first couple of shots

Which means the Viper 5 is more suitable for this sort of playstyle

[pseudo rivet]

That's because HoC equipment sadly isn't balanced

If only it had CoP's balance

[wraith socket]

This is my current loadout. Mark 1 EMR and Ram shotgun. Viper and Fora as backup. Mac-10 when I pair it with my Veles. Skif's pistol for backup.

You can see I slap on silencers and suppressors on everything I can.

[pseudo rivet]

I'm not sure if silencers still work like the Trilogy

[placid spoke]

Richter is so annoying like i dont know u bro hop off

[empty echo]

average ward fanatic

[placid spoke]

Korshunov is my bestie 4 lyfe

[pseudo rivet]

Ew

[empty echo]

ew

[placid spoke]

Theres no reason to dislike korshunov hes a great guy😭

[pseudo rivet]

Thieves rule and Ward drools

[empty echo]

korshunov seems like an honest guy, his motivations however are destructive

[placid spoke]

Bapta

[empty echo]

[pseudo rivet]

Freedom fr

[placid spoke]

The ward is right the zone is a terrible place and it should be used to help mankind instead of a playground for bums

[pseudo rivet]

Except they butchered them in HoC

[placid spoke]

And the ward has cool ass armor

[pseudo rivet]

Problem is that Ward wants to control the Zone. That's never gonna end well

[pseudo rivet]

Minecraft

[placid spoke]

The government should have control over a place like this

[pseudo rivet]

Ah yes, the least trustable people

[sly matrix]

ikr, that's putting a lot of trust in people...

[pseudo rivet]

Let it be for us all, let the world know what wonders exist in the Zone, what horrors are here, what the government wants to hide from the public. The Zone should be studied and learnt from so we can lift up Mankind scientifically

[placid spoke]

Yall arent based for this take bro its either the government or fanatics and bums😂 theres crazy scientific phoenomenon (idk how to spell that) and literal monsters that need to be studied and kept under control so these things dont threaten humanity

[pseudo rivet]

What harm is the Zone when it's us who actually do it harm? The Zone isn't violent by nature but we've started this by coming to the Zone armed to the teeth

[placid spoke]

Volatile bloodthirsty mutants, emissions, and anomalies that break the laws of physics, we dont know if theres any diseases to be transmitted or something that could threaten the mainland or pathogens or something actually effecting the planet on a larger scale that we dont immediately see, i know its far fetched but with stuff like this we literally dont know what to expect and needs to be in professional hands

[pseudo rivet]

1. Mutants aren't hostile if you don't see them as a threat
2. Emissions are all in the Zone and don't expand it
3. Anomalies are just part of the Zone until WARD started to mess around
4. There are no known diseases which seems to come from the Zone. It's definitely never mentioned after all these years, so the chance of this being a thing is nihil

Do you know of Shamans?

[placid spoke]

Not in stalker lore no

[pseudo rivet]

There's a PDA entry in SoC and you can even meet one in CS

Shall I post the SoC entry?

Should give a general idea

[placid spoke]

1: Mutants are extremely deadly and literally attack on sight so yes thats a threat. 2: Yes emissions are exclusive to the zone but its effects on the region are unknown and we dont know if it could do something with our atmosphere or leave the zone. 3: Scientists make mistakes thats part of learning. 4:Keyword "known"

[sand fiber]

idk about S2 lore but CoP literally has a plotline about using the Zone to advance science, it also shows that after C-con stopped controlling it the Zone entered a dormant state 💅💅

[pseudo rivet]

1. If you make yourself an enemy of the Zone. We can learn to live in harmony with it. Besides, we're the trespassers.
2. After 21 years of the Zone existing, they would've found something already. They haven't
3. Ward became a threat to the Big Land and you don't care? Typical Ward
4. Refer to point 2.

[pseudo rivet]

The story of the battle druids.

They say there’s this one gang... People call them Shamans or Druids. So it appears they don’t use any electronic equipment at all, say they want to stay close to the nature and stuff… Well, they reason the Zone reacts stronger to equipment… To all this electromagnetic emissions or something… They say it attracts monsters. Basically, they believe the Zone is like a living being, you know. Like, it’s no good going into it with all these gadgets. If you’re right in your mind you’ll get by fine without ‘em. Doesn't stop them from carrying assault rifles, though… Guess the old teeth and nails are not up to the task, eh? But then again, you don’t hear a lot of stories about one of them kicking the bucket. Well, at least no more than about us… So, who knows, maybe they are on the right track there… They seem to be coming more from the Belarussian side, though… I’d like to have a look at them one day and check out their pockets for some artifacts…

[sand fiber]

devs were always unsure about the zone expanding, on one hand it was an idea ever since basically 2002, on the other hand it's never stated in the trilogy and we're led to believe that freedom/scientists is the only faction with the right approach, though that also wasn't always the case during the development

[pseudo rivet]

As for the Shaman we meet in CS, he claims the Zone doesn't pose a threat to him. Mutants don't bother him and he has no use of weapons either

[placid spoke]

How are we trespassers on land that we've inhabited for as long as humanity has existed😭 we made a mistake and created the zone but that doesnt mean it no longer belongs to humanity lmao

[nimble cipher]

zara_l12 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sand fiber]

because humanity (a handful of soviet scientists) fuсked up messing with the noosphere, and all attempts at controlling it afterwards failed

[pseudo rivet]

Cringe Wolf

[sand fiber]

i do not believe in CS's "Zone is alive" stuff tbh, i think it's lame as far as stalker's narrative prospects go

[pseudo rivet]

I'mma react later, gotta go

[placid spoke]

In some cases if you spend enough time with wild animals and dont piss them off then eventually they wont maul you to death

Ward is right yall arent based for the played out "government bad" take BAPTA 4 lyfe cope

Good debate tho that was nice

[sand fiber]

they literally tried to do like a human instrumentality project and failed 😭

[placid spoke]

Humans are dumb but we have a power structure and chain of command for a reason and it should be respected🤷‍♂️

[sand fiber]

1. what
2. no

[placid spoke]

We have police so we dont have lunatics doing whatever they want whenever they want, we have the judicial system to fairly judge lawbreakers, we have leaders to conduct business, cooperate with other nations and coordinate with the rest of the world. Without our structure of power the whole world would be anarchy and lawlessness, and anarchy is a childish immature and uninformed idea

[sand fiber]

modern power structures are less than two hundred years old, society existed for thousands of years

[placid spoke]

And society was absolutely awful

Thats when sacrifices, sa, slavery, murder and just about any other terrible thing was extremely commonplace

[sand fiber]

if you think that the current state of affairs isn't or is some kind of, ahem, end of history then i suggest you read capitalist realism or smth

[placid spoke]

Obviously theres tons of corruption and problems and there always will be but both of us would much rather live today than in 1500

[sand fiber]

yeah no shit, doesn't mean that today's hierarchical structures are in any way good

[placid spoke]

Once again, humanity will always have major issues but its still the best its been right now today. Youre living in a fantasy or just not well versed in history if you think we were better off 300 years ago

Theres women still getting stoned for being accused of things in places where they dont have a general modern structure of government

[sand fiber]

if you think we were better off 300 years ago
you're putting words in my mouth

but its still the best its been right now today.
you can say this in 1800 and it would be correct, yes, monarchy too was the epitome of progress at some point, but i bet you things didn't get better because people just sat on their asses thinking "this is good, this is the farthest humanity has ever gotten"

[sand fiber]

wrong! women are getting stoned in places where there are modern structures of government too

[placid spoke]

Im talking about the past not the future, and youre tryna act like things were all fine and dandy before we developed a modern system😭

[sand fiber]

where did i say that???

[placid spoke]

We have a long way to go and i have high hopes for the future no matter how bleak it seems

[placid spoke]

Here youre implying that just because we existed before, it was fine lmfao

What point are you tryna make rn? Anarco communism is the way to go?

[sand fiber]

no, i'm responding to your "power structures have to be respected" point with the fact that what you call power structures nowadays are relatively recent developments

[placid spoke]

Like i said. Its there for a reason and deserves to be respected because our lives would be a whole lot worse without it in place

[sand fiber]

do you like actually not think there are alternative and better ways society can function

[placid spoke]

Im saying this is what we got and it works well enough

[sand fiber]

i'm mostly disagreeing with this, shittу systems don't have to be respected just because "well it would be worse if we had nothing at all!", especially when most people under it already have nothing at all

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[placid spoke]

Most people under it have nothing at all? You probably digest all your politics from tiktok🤣

[granite mortar]

Can you two stop bantering about social structures in stalker channels?

[sand fiber]

hey real quick look at wealth distribution across the world and inside US

[placid spoke]

Respect the system means dont kill people and let world leaders do world leader things it doesnt mean you have to love it

[sand fiber]

if it worked "well enough" there wouldn't be a backslide and major dissatisfaction in most of the western countries right now

[placid spoke]

This is getting cringe. ANYWAY, Bapta on top, ward is right, you arent based, cope

[sand fiber]

fuсking bootlicker ideology 😭😭

[granite mortar]

Bapta almost sounds luke batat
And batat is inferior to bulba
Glory to bulba

[placid spoke]

Tripping over a faction in a video game is crazy😭😭

[sand fiber]

idk haven't played S2 💅💅

[sly matrix]

Doesn't matter how right or wrong Ward's idealogy is, they're autocratic ass-hats.

[granite mortar]

They wear hats on their asses?

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lucifer-thats-right-gif-17400512

[placid spoke]

They arent even crazy offensive or divisive like the legion in new vegas i really dont understand what the rage is about💀

[granite mortar]

I thought Korshunov may want to cover that bald head with a hat
But he wears it on his ass instead
What a weirdo

[wraith socket]

Stalker 2 - No SPoilers

[pseudo rivet]

That's a singular case. What about all wild animals though?

Yes, animals can be tamed, but not all animals are

Yet these mutants won't attack him

And the hermit we encounter in CS is literally in the most mutant infested place in the Zone during the events of CS

[granite mortar]

Indominable Hermit spirit

[placid spoke]

Idk im exausted now thanks for not having a manic episode because i like the ward lol

[pseudo rivet]

Lmao fair, I saw the earlier convo

Still

Thieves Rule, Ward Drool

[granite mortar]

[nocturne monolith]

Not true, a system where I am emperor would be better for me

Id be an evil emperor, on my dark and mythic shi

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/tan-cat-tan-cat-spin-spin-spin-cat-spinning-cat-gif-25835363

[celest blaze]

Palpatine that you??

[zinc apex]

Why is ChatGPT Stalker more complex than Stalker 2?

[gritty orchid]

cause its made by a program hallucinating things instead of actual human beings

[crystal merlin]

The SSP 100 Discovery is the best Seva suit if you think about it.

[nocturne monolith]

Wtf is chatgpt stalker

[zinc apex]

Ask Chatgpt to play a Stalker Pen n Paper with you.

[celest blaze]

how close does it follow the lore?

[zinc apex]

you have to finetune a lot. still letting it implement more rules to the set. have not tried to resemble it completely lorefriendly yet

may be possible though

[nocturne monolith]

“You encounter a group of bandits, they grenade spam you and you die. The end”

[celest blaze]

ill check it out as i never tried it before

[zinc apex]

"You move around the corner to hide from the emerging group of bandits. As you take a look around you see, they vanish into thin air one after one"

[zinc apex]

it's really cool. did not expect it to tbh

[celest blaze]

same id like to see its potenial as like a DM for P&P DnD

[zinc apex]

it will give you some options what you'll like to do each round. but you can also just prompt something different in and it adjusts to that.

oooohh I advanced to Veteran finally ✅ 🫃

[celest blaze]

ayo purple

[sand fiber]

i want my orange back 😭😭

[celest blaze]

[zinc apex]

transfer tester role to me

[pseudo rivet]

Or me

[crystal merlin]

Anyone think Ward and Spark have the best and the 2nd best soldiers compare to other factions?
Like outside of scripted events, you won't find any zombie that wears Ward or Spark armors on the world map.
And you won't find Wardens corpses as much as you find Sparkers, on the world map outside of scripted even ofc.

[pseudo rivet]

Actually, you find some zombified Sparkers

In a very specific location

But that's spoilers

[zinc apex]

Ward is based

[pseudo rivet]

Ward drools

[gritty orchid]

Just saw zoneslug latest video and now I'm sad

[celest blaze]

bro..

[empty gorge]

dont look brothers, this one hurts a bit more

[celest blaze]

im avoiding all s2 content good and bad tbh

[empty gorge]

o7

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[celest blaze]

hope you have a good day aswell

[gritty orchid]

[silver snow]

Hi guys. I got rifle called Drowned. Can i get any sight for it? Or unique weapons can't use attachments?

[zinc apex]

Thanks Ranjid

[crystal merlin]

I found that place, it really sparked some disturbing implication.

[pseudo rivet]

[dim topaz]

I honestly didn't even remember the bit about "factions breaking up and forming smaller groups or appointing new leaders"
That one is just a low blow man

[zinc apex]

Stalker 2: Heart of Lies

[celest blaze]

Stalker 2: Heart of Grok

[daring storm]

Stalker 2: Soiled Pants

[dire dagger]

Stalker 2: heart of disappointment

[celest blaze]

Ong

[dire dagger]

[celest blaze]

Ngl I do wish I could get my 130 back and buy it dirt cheap on sale

[empty gorge]

wait till you realise it was planned to do an initial introduction quest to an important faction member of the hub to unlock true access to the hub and the leader, thats why the tip is there on loading (speak to faction leader to reset rep)

[dire dagger]

Don’t worry guys stalker 3 will be better

[celest blaze]

Ong

I'm waiting for legends return 1.0, owa cotz and a few other mods

[empty gorge]

modders will save us dont worry guys, just pass me the copium

[celest blaze]

I'm worried after spending alot of time in arma that stalker 2 gunplay is gonna feel like a kids game

[empty gorge]

the golden sdk that will be a first for ue5 will definetly be the salvation we need brothers trust the process

[celest goblet]

we'll have stalker 4 by the time global war 1.0 finally releases

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[celest blaze]

Speaking of I can't wait for 0.5

[empty gorge]

offff that shii so good my boy mykluha be selling it

[crystal merlin]

I think the armors system need some serious reworks, really, how it's possible that suit A is better than suit B at everything possible and then their prices are almost the same both before and after upgrades.
Imagine you slap like 70k coupons upgrading a suit you currently have and then you found another in the wild that has better stats without any(or just have slightly) upgrade.

[celest blaze]

I hope someone makes stalker single player campaigns again in arma 4 in 2027

[empty gorge]

we thank you for the QA you have done, please report findings, your salary of 0 cents will be payed at end of the month.

[celest blaze]

There's russian ones rn but I'm not learning a niche language for mods

[hazy helm]

you mean like, gear progression?

[celest goblet]

Well that part I think makes sense but they say the prices are the same which would be weird

[crystal merlin]

I worded it poorly , my bad, I'll try again:
Suit A 46 k coupons vs Suit B 52 K coupons, by default suit A have lower stats than suit B, by a large, noticable significant amount,
You upgrade them both to have the same or similar prices(upgrading your suits will add more value thus cost more to repair)
Then you realize there's no reason left to use suit A, because though they require the same(or similar) amount of coupons to repair but B simply just better.

[hazy helm]

when did you aquire Suit A and Suit B, and is either suit also used by NPCs?

[sand fiber]

i wanted to say smth about russian being a "niche" language but
well

[crystal merlin]

At the moment, some suits are basically the best in their class at almost everything possible and you don't need to pick any other.
The only suits that kind of have their own unique characteristics are the exos, with 4 of them can be seen as useless.
That said, this is something only the people who have already played the game for sometime will know.

[sand fiber]

modders had 20 years to improve on stalker's formula AND NONE OF THEM DID BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO UNDERSTAND STALKER'S DESIGN

[crystal merlin]

Both suits can be obtained for "free" by exploring, and yet NPCs do use them.

[hazy helm]

every suit and weapon, or almost every, can be obtained free by exploring, that doesnt make them bad suits or progression, much like just bc I can get a kharod, a late game weapon, at the start by using a stash, doesnt make that weapon bad

[celest blaze]

Well only about 2.3% of the world speaks Russian and that's before almost a million ztards died in an illegal invasion

[hazy helm]

at that point, if you can get any suit at any point, and you want this to be fixed, are you going to remove suits entirely and have a base defense stat or are you going to remove them from the world?

[sand fiber]

it's not about how many people speak it, it's about how much culture it has, and russian culture might as well be dead and rotting

[celest blaze]

Fair

[hazy helm]

I don't think it's as much a big problem are you make it out to be, or even, one at all, considering that people actually want more suits from NPCs, they still havent dropped the Spark exo

[celest blaze]

I'd learn it If I planned to live There but for Niche stalker mods I may not even be into a year from now is too much effort

[sand fiber]

tbh learning any language is a long endeavor, and russian isn't particularly easy

[celest blaze]

It looks hard

[sand fiber]

because it is , lots of grammar to learn

[sand fiber]

on the plus side if you learn russian grammar you also learn 95% of ukrainian and belarusian grammar

[celest blaze]

Asian languages look hard as fuck

[celest blaze]

That's awesome

[sand fiber]

I FUСKING HATE KANJI !!!

i'm only like half a year into learning JA (might as well be couple of weeks with how slow it's going) but as far as i understand the grammar isn't all that hard, easy pronounciation is a plus too

if i didn't speak it already i'd probably only learn russian as a larger effort to learn multiple slavic languages, since they're very similar, but i'm not sure how viable it'd be

[crystal merlin]

What I want here is for them to increase the price of suits that are clearly better.
For example from suit A to suit B is only 6 k coupons different, how about make suit B more expensive to buy(if they're available) and upgrade? Because clearly 6 k of coupons for a big boost of stats is too little, and after upgraded B can still outperform A despite A having a significantly higher price.
We are talking about a 80k suit that somehow outperform a 106k suit, it's not that much better when both are at the same price point.

But you're right, we need spark exos, and I have a strong feeling they're going to be the best exos given the circumstances.

[celest goblet]

I wouldn't say none, but definitely not a lot

[hazy helm]

fair

[sand fiber]

i dunno, admittedly i haven't played much mods, but with every one that i played or hear about it's the same story of developers barely understanding what stalker is and completely not understanding what they themselves want to do with it

it's kinda shameful compared to other modscenes, i've played enderal recently and despite being quite amateur it had a solid grasp on what made skyrim fun, which allowed them to inject more rpg elements into it, and enderal is far from a 10 year development hell project like some of the stalker mods are

[celest goblet]

Maybe it is just fitting that everyone who comes into the modding scene finds their own version of what stalker should be

[finite dragon]

Skyrim has a huge playerbase even 10+ years after release, I don't think its fair to compare it to the original stalker games, the bigger the playerbase the bigger the modding community

[sand fiber]

trve.... but they still fail in realising their vision

[sand fiber]

skyrim's (total conversion) modding community is smaller than that of stalker

[finite dragon]

there are tons and tons of skyrim total conversion mods because people still play the game, is my point

not many people, now, are going back and downloading shadow of chernobyl or call of pripyat to make an overhaul mod, who's going to play it? maybe a few hundred people if its good? a bit more if it gets really popular?

iunno, just thinking out loud

i think stalker 2 modding scene could pop off though if the SDK is good

[granite mortar]

No

[sand fiber]

i mean, people for like 30 years made classic fallout total conversions that only hundreds of people played, and stalker isn't exactly obscure in post-soviet territories, its modding community is huge

and no, as i said, there aren't as many skyrim total conversion mods as there are stalker total conversion mods

[empty gorge]

i wasnt there past 20 years ||joke||

[finite dragon]

Fallout was also more popular than stalker though, right? Even now the older fallout games still have a bigger base than the most recent stalker (pre hoc)

[sand fiber]

for skyrim, what, Enderal, Vicn trilogy, Beyond Reach, and ughhhhhhhhhhhhh

[finite dragon]

SoC has 16 more players than fallout 3 on steam currently

over all the stalker games, 10k players rn

fallout, 34k

fallout 76 sucks though so that 11k doesnt count

[sand fiber]

No? In eastern europe stalker was a cultural phenomenon, the most popular (local) videogame, SoC release was extremely hyped
i don't think you realize that stalker has like dozens of total conversions mods (some of them even good) with hundreds of thousands of people who played them

[finite dragon]

what do you think re the modding communities? i dont know the differences between what the engines even offer

[finite dragon]

I only really know of Gamma and Anomaly for stalker (like, know of enough to describe them, I never bothered to play them myself) but I can imagine there would be more attempts (good and bad) over the years

I do remember an absolute TON of skyrim mods, maybe not full total conversions (though they existed I never bothered playing anyway)

my general point was just trying to say both skyrim and fallout as a franchise saw far more, whats the word, modders, even though they may not have focused on total conversions, maybe thats attributable to the fact the games are vastly different sizes and no longer can a two man team realistically crank out huge mods constantly for fat modern games, but im no developer so its not like i claim to know anything lol

[empty gorge]

what?

[celest goblet]

Anomaly is just barely scratching the surface of what there is to see for stalker mods

[finite dragon]

just discussing why one game got a ton of emphasis on conversions and others dont

[sand fiber]

that's why i specified total conversions, skyrim has more addon-sized stuff, people put shit in it every day, but that's not comparable to proper game/DLC-sized projects

gamma and anomaly are like 2 Call of Chernobyl forks out of 10, and there are at least two dozen more (not freeplay) total conversions out there

idk just look at ap-pro or c-con list or smth

[finite dragon]

I guess I'm kinda conflating them, I'd be highly surprised if Skyrim had a small amount of conversion mods though, that game was put through the ringer by modders lol

[hazy helm]

"I swear man, theres like, at least 7 mods"

[finite dragon]

skyrim has at least 17 conversion mods based on a quick google search, and that article is four years old now

only three proper ones though that i can see

Nehrim, Arktwend and Enderal?

[sand fiber]

Enderal is the only game-sized one, it's like 50 hours, there are also a handful of DLC-sized mods like Vicn's trilogy, the one i kept hearing about, i only played Enderal though

[finite dragon]

I wonder how big their team was / how long it took, out of curiosity

[celest goblet]

Nehrim was an Oblivion mod, unless someone did a Skyrim version of it

[sand fiber]

Nehrim's for Oblivion, Arktwend and Myar Aranath are for Morrowind
they were all made by SureAI, it's an exceptional effort tbh, the team knows proper gamedevelopment

[celest goblet]

But same team that did Enderal, they're the best without a doubt imo

[finite dragon]

God morrowind was a good game

[sand fiber]

have you heard of Project Tamriel and Tamriel Rebuilt?

[finite dragon]

I have not - but I only played those on console, that was well before I had a computer lol

I don't think I've played anything elder scrolls on PC outside of Skyrim - even that was first experienced on console but they had modding support then on ps4 (from memory)

Or maybe that was after I changed from playstation to xbox, my memory is absolutely trash so god knows

[sand fiber]

both of these mods are part of one project aimed to make the entire Tamriel inside Morrowind, Project Tamriel is divided in provinces, there are currently parts of Skyrim and Cyrodill, and Tamriel Rebuilt focuses on adding the rest of Morrowind, beyond Vvardenfell

it remains and will remain incomplete for decades to come, but it has been in development since basically TES 3's release, so there's plenty to see and play right now

[crisp ruin]

Morrowind more based than Todd's current games

[sand fiber]

there are also plans to do high rock and elsweyr
oh and like the whole point is to make it lore-accurate to TES 3, for example, Cyrodill is a jungle, like it was meant to be

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-burglar-burglar-fat-fat-cat-cat-sneak-gif-18421006382571559040

[placid spoke]

Goodmorning my government lovin sons of stalkers

[placid spoke]

Yall seen the battlefield 6 leaks?

Yoo where did my title come from thats sick😭😭 thanks mods

[mild palm]

New ZoneSlug vid!

[zinc apex]

It's depressing

[mild palm]

Watching it now. Yes, it is.

[celest blaze]

Zoneslug is dumb lol

[gritty orchid]

[celest blaze]

Bros comparing a vanilla game to a modpack with over 500 mods

[mild palm]

Guards, take him away!

[zinc apex]

wat

[celest blaze]

He's compared stalker 2 to gamma

Bros just a click farmer

[celest goblet]

They have some good things in their videos but yeah I was not as impressed with parts of this one

[celest blaze]

Stalker 2 isn't perfect by any means however bad faith comparisons ain't the move

[mild palm]

Agreed

[celest blaze]

Like that alife comparison vid imo was valid

[gritty orchid]

Tbh what made me sad about the video is that whole alife talk, about factions switching leaders and what not, but I'm sure GSC will improve things

[hazy helm]

is he making comparisons over gameplay stuff? or is it purely "the AI and graphics are not what we were promised"

[gritty orchid]

I couldn't care less about graphics, or environment destruction lol

[mild palm]

Indeed

[gritty orchid]

Stalker 2 on ultra looks insane even with software based rt

After watching the video for a second time I'm convinced that his graphic settings aren't really on high or w/e, even on "medium" settings the game looks good

[sly matrix]

I play S2 on rock-bottom graphics(mostly because I can't be arsed to figure out what higher settings I can get away with), and it still looks plenty fine to me

[hazy helm]

its still smth that was promised in earlier trailers, it's a fine argument

just not smth most people care about, considering at this point, almost all trip A first trailers are vertical slices with a lot of animated static stuff

[sand fiber]

literally rage slop content

were they even in the community before S2

[zinc apex]

Only slop content is s2

[idle summit]

no he is a great channel that reflects what most of us want from a modern stalker experience

[sand fiber]

are you chat gpt

[celest goblet]

i would say it is low effort click bait but he puts effort into his videos so i guess it is just click bait

[sand fiber]

what we want from modern stalker experience
bro how would you know what a modern stalker experience is you haven't played the games 😭🙏

[idle summit]

have you watched the videos about a-life? they are straight to the point with facts, no click bait at all

[idle summit]

I played all 3 stalker original games and finished them. The expectations from a modern stalker game is to be better than the old games especially when it comes to a-life and AI. and if you look at gsc posts and marketing they told us old school stlaker fans that they will do all that and so far a-life and AI is really barebones even compared to the old games. zoneslug shows this very well.

[celest goblet]

Yeah, I mean I'd say it's more of a thing in the more recent videos. Probably started sensing views going along this path

[idle summit]

no he has plenty of videos like this if you go to his channel and go to "videos" you can see what he uploaded, but maybe you just watched the shorts

[sand fiber]

us old school stalker fans 😭😭

[celest goblet]

👴

[idle summit]

literally none of the "non-short videos" are about gamma or anomaly, it's mostly about comparing with the old official games or talking about what was promised and not fulfilled

[hazy helm]

they have points that have been improved and others dont, AI is one that they didnt improve, Artifacts they massively improved tho its not still perfect

[idle summit]

we just want AI combat to be realistic and a-life, that's it

[hazy helm]

yhea, I do too, but Im also not gonna act like S2 is a net negative on all things it did from the old games

[sand fiber]

ai combat to be realistic oh myy goooooddddd

[idle summit]

weather you want to recognise it or not there is a significant part of the audience who think like me and yes we are old school fans who loved exploration and not care too much about a "story driven" thing

[hazy helm]

some stuff, it is, others, its a upgrade, like the retcons are a downgrade Id say

[hazy helm]

why were you playing stalker if you didnt like the story driven gameplay? thats like, stalkers core

[celest blaze]

Fr lol

[sand fiber]

i'm pretty sure there's exploration in S2

[idle summit]

oyh my good what? what part of that triggers you? are you farmillar how old AI worked in CoP and how it does now? it is inferior now

[celest blaze]

Alife is so overglazed tbh

[hazy helm]

COP Ai is, pretty inferior to the other games AI that much is true

SOC AI

[celest blaze]

Soc ai and cs was better imo

[finite dragon]

they did fix some ai to do with ambush tactics and zombie pathing regarding enemies but, lower end ig

[idle summit]

not fulfilling exploration because a-life is not at the standards to create a believable world and there is just a 100m spawn radius

[zinc apex]

Bro watch out. You'll get gaslit by the community whom still defending s2 a-life and tell you that prequels didn't have alife also

[sand fiber]

a life isn't exploration 😭

[hazy helm]

who said that?
thats a comment I wanna read

[idle summit]

are you just here to argue or what? a-life is part of what makes exploration believable otherwise you are just exploring a dead environment with random spawns

[wide wraith]

sup, i got a rtx 4060 and i wanted to enable DLSS Frame Gen but its greyed out? can someone help me figure this out? thnx

[hazy helm]

goes to discord to argue
asks the person hes arguing with if hes there to argue
I mean...

[sand fiber]

exploration is reliant on locations and loot, not stalker spawns

[celest blaze]

^

[celest goblet]

My favorite part of exploration is saying hello to Greg Woodchucker again when I pass his camp for the 10th time

[hazy helm]

I dont know a lot about it but the peeps at #pc-specs would know more

[idle summit]

explroation is reliant on world immersion of which how believable is the world is a key factor...

[finite dragon]

he's right, good exploration IS reliant on an immersive world

[celest goblet]

I mean ngl I do enjoy that sort of thing but to me it's supplementary rather than core

[celest blaze]

nothing is believable about stalker lol theres magic and mutants

[hazy helm]

what if youre exploring a world that is purposefully not belivable?

[finite dragon]

believable doesnt have to mean realistic

[hazy helm]

would you count LCD Dream Simulator as a exploration game?

[sand fiber]

that's not what exploration means

[idle summit]

that's ok, the point is we exist, and if we didn't get betrayed a lot of us would be playing stalker 2 right now but since we are not and the casuals already left to the newest game on the market, there are only about 5000-7000 daily players. They could save it by fixing a-life and bringing us back though. I hope they do.

[finite dragon]

turn on hardware acceleration (sorry no one answered you sooner)

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-glasses-surprised-gif-14808159

[crimson granite]

A video that everyone should watch and know what they promised us and what we got, not hating on devs but after watching this it is really hard not to feel scammed by the devs, even after all the updates.

https://youtu.be/QHcf21Bf37w?si=9gD0TqHGijRXpH-U

[hazy helm]

I would be interested in who said the stuff belaticus said, but ah well

[idle summit]

then it's more like a troll than a game, because something was promised and was not delivered

[sand fiber]

yeah i'm more and more convinced that zoneslug is an absolute slop factory

[celest blaze]

same

[wide wraith]

thanks ill try that

[zinc apex]

Just search for "buzzword" or something. How often did I also read that ppl are just having rose tinted glasses on or are overestimating the old alife on this server when critique comes up @hazy helm

[hazy helm]

Im not talking about Stalker 2

[finite dragon]

windows key -> search for 'graphics settings' -> advanced graphics settings -> enable hardware scheduling

[idle summit]

well in that case no I am only interested in worlds that make sense...I have very few games

[hazy helm]

there is a kind of mandela effect that is true, but its also still true taht Stalker 2 does not have even a crumb of what is in SOC A-Life, its not even comparable

[sand fiber]

gamers convincing themselves that they're entitled to anything and can get "scammed" was a disaster for humankind

[gritty orchid]

Petition to add "zone slug" In the curse word filters for wolf

[celest blaze]

based

[crystal merlin]

I think we need more than just go there and pick up that loots, we need more side quest/activities.
I agree with many that the game feels bloated, yes there are many side stuffs, but not enough to fill the map with, something the game need.

[hazy helm]

I asked you to question your logic
if you are playing a game about exploring a nonsensical and unbelieavable world, would you not count it as exploration bc you cannot believe in this world?

[gritty orchid]

Add "GAMMA" as well while we're at it

[hazy helm]

I shall be scamming you of your updoots you goddamn redditor

[versed jasper]

Does anyone know why 2-3 of the Ward soldiers at Chemical Plant is hostile for some reason? I'm find with the Ward anywhere else, and even with the rest of the soldiers at the base but these three just start shooting on sight

[crystal merlin]

But then I'm pretty sure many things were cut due to how demanding this engine is.

[celest blaze]

anomaly aswell

[finite dragon]

again, believable doesnt mean 'realistic'

game of thrones as a world is believable, is it realistic? no
lord of the rings, immersive and believable world, again not realistic

[hazy helm]

a lot of stuff was cut, like faction questlines, but I dont think its bc of the engine

[idle summit]

@hazy helm other games I like are Red Dead Redemption 2, Fallout New Vegas, in terms of exploration. and they don't have a-life. but they don't have to because they are not a stalker game. Stalker game is unique because of a-life, that's why a lot of us play it...without it it's an average experience.

[hazy helm]

and I dont mean realistic either, what if the game itself is not trying to be believable and is about exploring sections of dream like secular levels? would that be exploration?

[celest blaze]

i played stalker to explore the zone tbh alife is kinda missable

[celest goblet]

Based on the state the game released in I would first guess things got cut because they didn't have time to get it all working

[sand fiber]

yessss scam me daddy vasim ^-^

[zinc apex]

Calm down guys I'm sure the marketing guy just did an oopsie and deleted alife and half of the game before release

[celest blaze]

hell i beat shadow of cherno in 24 hours im not spending time stalking npcs lol

[idle summit]

yes, so you are part of that audience that still plays the game, cool! but a lot of us have it uninstalled currently and are waiting for something else

[hazy helm]

I didnt ask about A-Life
if I made a game, about nonsensical and unbelievable dreams, would you call it exploration because its about exploring those dreams, or not because you cant belieave a world like that can exist?

[finite dragon]

possibly, i guess it depends (thats what i was saying earlier, people have differing definitions of what 'exploration' is)

I dont want to explore a world that doesnt immerse me in some shape or form, it doesnt even have to be linear in a sense

[celest goblet]

Like with how buggy the content that is there was, how bad was the content that didn't make the cut

[celest blaze]

dont really care what strangers do

[drowsy blade]

it probably made the game literally unplayable ngl

[hazy helm]

the first quest mod Stalker 2 has is a restoration of cut content, Noahs "Last Days"

[finite dragon]

I do find Stalker quite immersive though, its just the radius of enemy spawns which can kind of take you out of it, but its not 'that' bad, certainly fixable over time

[celest goblet]

We may see some of that one day, but GSC is not very forthcoming with their plans rn beyond additional patches so all we have is speculation

[idle summit]

well good for you, however GSC the company should care what the different sectors of its audience wants, especially those who follow stalker like a cult and generally those want a-life and good ai in battles.

[sand fiber]

exploration is the act of exploring, it doesn't matter what you're exploring, you can be exploring a fuсking webpage and that's still called "exploration", the gamedesign term is the same

[celest blaze]

if you're following a game like a cult its time to go outside imo

[finite dragon]

his initial complaint the way i read it wasnt just about exploration though, it was about the things that make exploration interesting to the player, he was trying to explain how they go hand in hand, with broken english, not easy ig

[zinc apex]

Bro Stalker is basically life at this point

[celest blaze]

i beat cop in 19.6 hours on master idk how yall spend hundreds following around random npcs

[idle summit]

you are free to make a concept like that and perhaps I will try it for its surreal character. however stalker is a specific game that has specific parameters that fans enjoy and so those parameters should be fulfilled to fulfill what the fans think the exploration qualities should be in a stalker game.

[hazy helm]

tbf, there is very little to do in COP considering its the worst in the series

CS for the win

[drowsy blade]

I lobe Clear Sky

[celest blaze]

ong i was really disappointed going to cop

I lobe Clear Sky

[hazy helm]

what Im asking is outside the scope of stalker
would you or would you not

[zinc apex]

There are many players who enjoy the immersive sandbox gameplay more than story quest rushing tbf

[celest goblet]

I think my typical playthroughs are like 20-25 h for SoC, 15-20 for CS, 10-15 for CoP

[celest blaze]

fair counter point

[idle summit]

I am a ski instructor and mountain guide in real life so I don't know what you are talking about "outside". In fact that's why stalker is an attractive game for me because you are out there with your compass meeting other AI stalkers that are simulated and have their own goals and are not just randomly spawned around your radius of 100m.

[drowsy blade]

I think I did CoP in 16.8 hours, with an hour added because I died and hadn't gotten a save in a full hour lol

[idle summit]

I said I would try it for its surealistic nature.

[hazy helm]

I asked if you would consider it exploration or not

[idle summit]

yes a different kind of exploration but exploration yes

[idle summit]

I spent too much time in those games. I probably have one of the longest playthroughs because of the random stuff I would do in those games instead of following the quest line. Sometimes I would even just imagine that I am on somekind of patrol and just see what happens on my long walk.

[crystal merlin]

I'm pretty sure it is, given how much resources this game needs to render a short distance, and you won't even have enough.
I hope they restore them soon.

[hazy helm]

quest scripting doesnt add up to the respawn system tho, it exists outside of it, and those questlines would be questlines
very early one, in 2021, GSC said there would be no Faction War system from CS

[sand fiber]

"i am a real human being, i enjoy using my compass in my licensed S.T.A.L.K.E.R. videogame copy to meet stalkers. i take great joy in meeting other stalkers using my compass"

[finite dragon]

now youre just acting like an asshole, ngl

[sand fiber]

yaayyyy :>

[idle summit]

you are such a troll, well enjoy being one of those 5000 daily players, when there could be so much more

[sand fiber]

brother, i haven't even played stalker 2 💅

[idle summit]

excuse me, but what are you doing here then?

[granite mortar]

Classic NozAr

[idle summit]

at least I have played 69 hours of Stalker 2

[sand fiber]

there are three other stalker games in existence if such an oldschool fan like you haven't noticed 💅 💅

[idle summit]

but I wish this game would push me to 200 hours

[celest blaze]

This is a server for the entire franchise bro

[sand fiber]

i'd never be an asshole to my besties... 💅 💅 💅

[idle summit]

no but why are you defending with trolling points made about stalker 2 if you don't even play it? you are the least qualified to talk about it

[sand fiber]

i'm not even defending the game, i was just saying that zoneslug is a slop channel

[idle summit]

you can't have an opinion on the channel since you can't even know if his points are true or not about stalker 2 since you haven't played it

[celest blaze]

Incorrect

[finite dragon]

this is the stalker 2 channel though lol

[celest blaze]

People can't watch stalker pros and cons content without playing

[hazy helm]

I can have an opinion on stuff I dont know

[celest blaze]

No this is the English offtopic channel

[hazy helm]

its up to you wether you value that or not

[sand fiber]

humans use something called deduction based on context clues :D

[finite dragon]

and whats the category its in named? stalker 2 no spoilers, trilogy games have their own channels

[idle summit]

His points are 100 percent true. and most of his videos are comparing to stuff in the old games. The short videos compare to old games and gamma, why gamma? because it's a modern perspective on stalker so it's relevant. Are you informed now?

[celest blaze]

Gamma is not a modern perspective

It's modern slop

[sand fiber]

and in any case, nothing i said was about the game itself, just about zoneslug being slop factory

[finite dragon]

also you could at least do your job and tell the dude not to be a pos troll but i guess thats too hard, you'd rather argue channel pedantics (and be wrong there too)

[celest blaze]

They aren't trolling though

[drowsy blade]

Gamma isn’t stalker

[finite dragon]

this is literally making fun of the dudes job and the fact he used the word compass to showcase his love of exploration and navigation

[hazy helm]

I wouldnt say that GAMMA is relevant when judging Stalker 2, no

[drowsy blade]

Gamma is a EFT clone wearing Stalker skin

[celest blaze]

Ong

[hazy helm]

GAMMA is its own perspective it is not a modern perspective on stalker,

[idle summit]

it's quality factory, excellent quality control. Objective things like analysing the the superior reactions to an npc getting hit by a bullet in the old games vs how they react now. In the old games they had reactions to getting hit in different body parts, now nothing. This is just one example of many.

[drowsy blade]

I don’t care if people play Gamma, but they need to stop claiming it’s the “true Stalker experience” when the mod is literally the furthest experience from the original games ever

[idle summit]

it is a significant section of the fan base who agree with that perspective. Nobody is saying they should add autistic crafting to the official game though. but the a-life for instance is a demonstration on how a modern a-life could be improved.

[celest blaze]

Wrong

Gamma suffers from alife issues and grok won't deal with cuz blames it on anomaly devs lol

[hazy helm]

GAMMA is not a good comparison for what they want to show, even if they purely want to showcase AI they can still make the point with SOC, either that or at least try to go back to AMK which was mainly, restoring cut A-Life features

[hazy helm]

why care when OpenXrayCOC is right around the corner?

[sand fiber]

in the old games they had reactions to getting hit in different body parts
what 😭

anyway, it doesn't matter, zoneslug still produces slop designed to create meaningless outrage

[celest blaze]

Fr fr

[idle summit]

he does that, in slog videos his regular videos not the shorts, the points are made only with the original games

[hazy helm]

he still uses gamma tho no?

[celest blaze]

Zoneslop more like it lol

[idle summit]

yes you hit in arm or leg and the npc moves accordingly to that or are you blind? there is an animation triggered each time, in modern game nothing

[celest blaze]

No one shat on gta 5 for removing that feature that gta 4 had lol

[idle summit]

no, he produces objective testing not even with commentary, just small subtitles, the footage speaks for itself

[hazy helm]

I dunno how it being voiced or not has anything to do with quality, regardless, you can still say that he makes slop for shorts

[celest blaze]

Slop pusher

[idle summit]

well for instance someone might spend many minutes talking in somekind of misleading rhetoric. Here it's just "here is how it was" presents footage and "here is how it is now", therefore it is minimal and unbiased

[torpid wren]

I’m a critical enjoyer of stalker 2 and don’t see how comparing it to the trilogy is “outrage”. I’m sure there are viewers who will use it for that, but simple criticism isn’t inherently hateful

[zinc apex]

A-Life 2.0 never existed in Stalker 2 and probably won't ever exceed A-Life of trilogy 🗣️

[hazy helm]

you can still be biased with that tho? I fail to see how this format is less biased when hes still picking and choosing what he wants to show
its an edited video, wether it is a short or not, voiced or not

I believe him bc I played S2 and SOC

but thats a weird argument

[idle summit]

you guys can keep believing in your fairy tale then and enjoy your fantasy about a section of the audience being wrong but the reality is GSC should look at this audience and see how they can improve their sales, that is all

[celest blaze]

Retarded

[hazy helm]

what fairy tale are we believing? that the system is broken and needs change?

[idle summit]

have a nice day all

[hazy helm]

I thought you werent going to suck GSC boots

[celest blaze]

Stalker fans are on the spectrum I swear

[hazy helm]

weird asf ngl

[torpid wren]

That’s really not necessary.

[celest blaze]

Saying gsc should listen to gamma fans and turn stalker 2 into gamma 2 is bad

Gamma is so far from stalker

[hazy helm]

to be fair, he did not say that

he said that Zoneslug uses GAMMA as a comparison in shorts

which we disagreed

[celest blaze]

Fair my bad then

[torpid wren]

I agree. But calling people slurs over a video game is very unnecessary

[celest blaze]

I said the post was retarded not him

I'd outright say if I was calling them that

[austere mauve]

I think criticism of any media is healthy for growth. It's how companies learn what the consumers want or expect from the product. If we don't criticize things that we don't like or enjoy nothing will ever change. Most companies will just deliver a product, take the money, and leave.

[sand fiber]

yes, that's still content designed to create outrage

[zinc apex]

This chat needs to calm down lol. Eventually we all can agree that alife 2.0 is not in the game and we don't know when or if its coming and that alife in trilogy is far more superior than the system we have rn. Y'all aren't too far apart in your opinions lol

[idle summit]

so are we just supposed to praise the stalker 2 gods or what? it's just player feedback...it's up to gsc to decide weather they take it in consideration or not. but I don't think it's your place to make that decision for them in the official main chat making fun of a section of the audience

[hazy helm]

are you mad bc he didnt agree with you or bc he made fun of you?

either way, weird

[sand fiber]

she

[hazy helm]

make fun of nozar back

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[torpid wren]

Criticism is not outrage

[empty gorge]

what the frick going on here

[idle summit]

as a moderator I think you should have other objectives, and to keep the discussion balanced and not let people insult others for their opinions about the game

[austere mauve]

Chaos.

[granite mortar]

[empty gorge]

everybody_stay_calm.gif

[hazy helm]

if someone made fun of your opinion, then you make fun of theirs, I am not goiung to mute anyone unless they go over the line

[pseudo rivet]

[torpid wren]

Petty internet discussion

[zinc apex]

Grab the pitchforks!

[idle summit]

because with the current situation people like me will choose to not take part of these discussion if it is not a serious place to discuss

[celest blaze]

Then don't?

[sand fiber]

obsessing for what, 4 months about buzzwords and having the same talk over and over and over and over is outrage, a particularly meaningless one

[hazy helm]

if you get mad enuff to leave the discussion after someone lightly riffs you, its prob for the best IG

Im not gonna lie

[idle summit]

and then you end up believing that we don't exist, well we do, and we are many

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpdrive-drive-glorp-drive-charborg-gif-5783026409085825543

[celest blaze]

You are not legion bro relax

[zinc apex]

This is glorbshít

[hazy helm]

A-Life is a fair criticism
how about you buy a PC that can play the game before you say this

[torpid wren]

Outrage implies anger, and I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. I’m not saying it doesn’t ever happen, because I’ve seen it.
But wanting more from this game is completely rational

[pseudo rivet]

Speaking of Legion..... You know what's coming, don't you?

[celest blaze]

Wolf gave you the pass..

[sand fiber]

vasim why are you so mean lately 😔
anyway GO FUСK YOURSELF I DO HAVE ONE

[idle summit]

well we do speak where it matters, in gsc-questions and player feedback locations such as youtube videos

[hazy helm]

put the fries in the bag

[celest blaze]

[pseudo rivet]

Based zaza

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[mild palm]

I may be, though

[celest blaze]

The emp in chat

[zinc apex]

Wolf and me are squad now

[sand fiber]

do you think this guy here thinking he's a part of a legion united against GSC isn't in a state of rage

[celest blaze]

Based if true

[torpid wren]

I have well over 100 hours in stalker 2, I enjoy it. But it’s definitely missing things

[celest goblet]

I think that the criticism is fair game but ideally it would include some sort of component as to how the shortcomings can be addressed

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[idle summit]

based how? no arguments, nothing, she makes fun of stalker community opinions without even playing the game. It is based to know what you are talking about and not just be a clown.

[pseudo rivet]

Here's the actual Legion

[hazy helm]

based? based on what?

[torpid wren]

I’m not knowledgeable of this guy’s history and affiliations. Just the general “stalker 2 is unfinished” discourse

[pseudo rivet]

For being mean to Vasim

[hazy helm]

for a person you equate to a clown youre getting very angry at her responses

[torpid wren]

I don’t see any reason why people can’t like the game as it is and support the desire for innovations

[idle summit]

with you I have had a civilised conversation and that is what I am about...it is annoying however to spend time of your life to talk with someone who does not and also thinks they are superior

[torpid wren]

That’s what I’m doing at least. I hope the 60$ I spent is being used well. If not, I can just move on from the franchise

[hazy helm]

yhea tahts why its funny

[pseudo rivet]

There's always the Trilogy

[celest blaze]

and mods

[pseudo rivet]

...and mods

[hazy helm]

its called trolling actually

[torpid wren]

See? Not the end of the world!

[hazy helm]

easiest bait ever

[celest blaze]

some peak mods

[sand fiber]

it's not really about liking or disliking it, i'm fine with criticism/analysis/whatever, i don't even have particularly strong opinions about s2, as i said, i haven't played it
i'm mostly going insane looking at people repeating same 2 lines about a-life and like, seemingly not enjoying anything in their lives

[hazy helm]

have you ever finished OP2?

[idle summit]

well I take my entertainment elsewhere, I have just intervened to defend a community member which was called dumb for no reason. and then I said my own feedback. It's all good...I must attend to other matters now, be well

[pseudo rivet]

What's Teamlite?

[celest blaze]

no tbh its the first mod im gonna replay once im done stalker break i got 14 hours in it

[torpid wren]

Ok based. Some people definitely do just need to go do something else for now

[celest blaze]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/teamlite-mod one of my favorite freeplay mods

[hazy helm]

you got mad bc someone insulted a youtuber you liked, relax

you are not a crusader defending holy land

[celest blaze]

fr

[pseudo rivet]

So, CoC+?

[torpid wren]

I can’t believe that GSC is FORCING ME to PLAY STALKER 2!!11! even though I HATE IT 🤬

[zinc apex]

Biggest problem for me is, once you've seen the open world zone in Stalker 2, you almost can't go back to old games/mods 😢

[pseudo rivet]

Oh, you poor little thing

[hazy helm]

10 hours of S2 per day made Simmons a dull boy

[celest blaze]

there is also gambling

[drifting niche]

Why

[torpid wren]

My counter is at like 5 days

[celest goblet]

Personally I still really like the individual maps of the trilogy

[celest blaze]

same

to me itll always be peak

[torpid wren]

https://tenor.com/view/southpark-videogames-videogameday-gif-4494329

[granite mortar]

Goldsphere

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[celest blaze]

i gotta play this

well replay

peaksphere..

[torpid wren]

SoC Yantar

[pseudo rivet]

Any mods that focus on the Zone's underground?

Other than Trapped

[celest blaze]

@granite mortar you got any ideas?

[idle summit]

I am a crusader of the a-life, praise the monolith!

[celest goblet]

not enough tbh

[granite mortar]

Labyrinth

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/thief-thief-the-dark-project-dark-project-constantine-trickster-gif-27941738462695426

[pseudo rivet]

Ayo there actually is another one?

Sweet

[sand fiber]

OLR 3.0

[hazy helm]

its either NS Caves or the Labyrinth

[torpid wren]

Metro 2033

[granite mortar]

Made by same guy
More story oriented this time, also has more traditional progression

But its not just underground

[pseudo rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266969153709805588/1305762550918549534/watermark.gif

[pseudo rivet]

Haven't heard of NS Caves either, tbh

[torpid wren]

Give me gif perms or give me death!

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-rayan-gosling-smile-drive-movie-movie-gif-20381408

[pseudo rivet]

One death, coming up! It's on the house

[celest goblet]

its the cave map from NS which is, uh, special. I was actually just talking about it in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[celest blaze]

stalker 2 shoulda been a story about ryan gosling..

[torpid wren]

I hate how much people love this guy so much. He’s not even the most relatable dudeguy actor

[celest blaze]

[dire dagger]

You play as Ryan gosling and you drive around the zone

[celest blaze]

idk why but i love gosling

[zinc apex]

Level and art designers did an outstanding job in s2 imo

[torpid wren]

Edward Norton is superior. Gosling lovers need to watch Fight Club and The Incredible Hulk

[pseudo rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-ryan-gosling-sigma-gif-7112061947924826611

[celest blaze]

he is good aswell

[torpid wren]

Rami Malek in Mr. Robot

I watched season 1 and lost interest

[idle summit]

It is a high quality show I highly recommend you watch the rest.

and in fact it's one of the few shows and movies that portray hacking in a realistic way and not just some random green writings on a screen

however the show is more of a psychological human relations story than a "hacker" show but the realistic hacking gives immersion +++ points which is great

[worn oar]

[snow dew]

hello

[thick zodiac]

Ryan Gosling should be in the movie about Stalker, he would fit in perfectly

[snow dew]

what faction would he be tho?

[thick zodiac]

Loner of course, look at his puppy lonely sad face

[snow dew]

makes sense

[safe spindle]

I see a nuke dropped

[safe spindle]

I wouldn't say this discussion is meaningless, accountability is crucial for the consumer to get either an answer or the product described / desired. Studios have done this for over a decade now and it will never end until certain individuals get on board and hold them accountable. For instance look at Ubisoft. This Studio is being held accountable for everything they produce now, because they took the community and industry for granted. The Downfall of this studio should be studied and avoided for success and GSC is no different here, they don't get a free pass, no studio should get a free pass as a consumer.

[empty gorge]

yeah i only just now started to go through

[celest portal]

Glorp drive

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat%26police-gif-12338216552876767430

[safe spindle]

This is also part of a problem while creating a bigger problem for everyone, your opinion matters as much as the next guy, is it right? Well that's subjective, but to become idle should never be the alternative otherwise nothing changes.

[sand fiber]

you can't hold studios accountable because studios are multi-million corporations, and you're a lonely consumer

the only way to prevent this is to explicitly regulate how companies are allowed to market their product, but that won't happen any time soon

[safe spindle]

You're just wrong on this take.

[celest portal]

Man I need image/gif perms here

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669