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[nimble cipher]

c21h23no69 has been banned

Reason: nsfw + racial slurs

[worthy lagoon]

Good

[rugged edge]

Lmao

[molten crow]

[worthy lagoon]

[zinc apex]

jesus. now we can continue talking about a-life 2.0 (or patch)

[crisp ruin]

[upbeat kite]

It gone so quick that i didn’t catch why he get a ban

[warped gull]

twitter average usser its a good resumen

[crisp ruin]

Imagine threating users over what they said in dms

shame

[upbeat kite]

I was just kidding 😅

[zinc apex]

forever conserved for the afterlife

[molten crow]

plus was sending nsfw in dms

edgy little kid

[zinc apex]

yea very good channel and vid. made me sad too tho

[crisp ruin]

This is why we need to ban Discord for minors

[daring storm]

[molten crow]

meanwhile discord making their platform and ads look more child friendly

[granite mortar]

pretty sure that was some 40 year old reddit user

[warped gull]

not actually with me, just was menacing and i quote "ill show you my (kitty cat)" " and dont fake yours with ai"

[zinc apex]

discord is cancer. i wish teamspeak would've made the race back then

[crisp ruin]

Redditors such a cancer to world

[upbeat kite]

GenZ’s ?

[crisp ruin]

Ah GenZ is grown ass adults like me, Alphas maybe

[zinc apex]

Alphacas 🦙

[upbeat kite]

Ohhh okayy

[warped gull]

"iwanas"

-dutch vanderline

ritcher my loved boy, if something happens to you im gonna rip off each limb of each npc for you -flashbacks with jackie from cyberpunk-

[crisp ruin]

btw here is my good advice to you, friend, remove your Twitter / X account from your profile. What ever you do, minors or weird ass people always never listens those warnings. Btw I like your art ngl.

[runic spire]

The whole internet tbh

[warped gull]

thats why i put a sign, legally if i put a warning, any responsabilite is not on me who ever decide what to do

thats why thoose (you know) places just do the same, a warning

[upbeat kite]

Internet would be better place without twitter

[warped gull]

why did the bookmarks count on my pics increased?

[molten crow]

arguably a worse site then reddit

[drowsy violet]

So far s2 has been fun. I am still in the first area and I have been playing for eight hours.,

[crisp ruin]

both are

[warped gull]

i like to remark that im a easy scare guy, from kid, i always played pvz with a lot of fear, i really im easy to scare, and i love playing stalker

[molten crow]

you should try the adrenaline from tarkov

good scares

[kindred pewter]

Saves time. These people don't usually get any better after the block.

[warped gull]

i did from resident evil remakes, dying light omfg dying light nights is something else

[drowsy violet]

Most AAA games in the modern era don't got a singleplayer componant that last eight hours.

[clear raft]

Why does GSC just keep releasing media posts? 🤔 Seems silly

[warped gull]

actually they try so hard to take you 2 hours of tutorial to make impossible the refund

[drowsy violet]

Kingdom Hearts 2 has a three hour tutorial level.

[warped gull]

here sir, or lady i dunno, im my heart is tatooed, i hate squarenix, so im not surprised

[drowsy violet]

I can only imagine just how long this game is going to be if I am still at the starting area eight hours in.

[warped gull]

im already in near of the north and im a guy that likes to do extra mission before to keep going in principal

also maybe not too much in this game cuz i litearlly cant handle the night, from safe zone to the zone full of bandits i was near of the pannic attack so lol

[molten crow]

did mostly story and ~55h for my first ending, 77h and in the middle of getting my 4th

[hardy bear]

Play stalker now
Know more about stalker

[vestal schooner]

I spent like 20h in just the Lesser Zone lol. Currently 160h, and I'm halfway through the story (just got to Rostok). Love hoovering all the stuff, and I'm not leaving a location util I visited every POI (read as "looked under every bush").

[hardy bear]

Is there a bind to hide the hud without going into settings and toggling them?

[steady leaf]

I play super slow too and havent even explored everything i like to leave some stuff for next playthrus also

[vestal schooner]

well, I thought I'd clear everything in first playthrough and will just speedrun the next ones for different endings.
and I was thinking because I look everywhere I will be knowing what and where to find the next time... boy I was wrong, I haven't finished the first playthrough and I already forgot almost everything lol

[steady leaf]

I have so many locked doors all over still

[vestal schooner]

yeah, many of them locked behind a quest (usually main quest)

[steady leaf]

Got some places in red forest to explore then its time to push more into Yaniv and then pripyat

[vestal schooner]

but some doors need keys, or you need to walk around the building to find a window or a crack in a wall and snipe the lock

[steady leaf]

Yup

Some are clever though and i think few are locked behind story decisions, like what faction you side with

And keys blend into the furnitures and window sills so easily

The most evil ones are where the solution is like a region away from the reward

[upbeat kite]

The most intriguing part of S2 is that my second play through is totally different than first.

Now i was focused on main story only to collect my favorite gear, and roam different paths, killing different npc 🐈

While doing so, i discovered even more interesting spaces, doors 🚪 xD

I wish for new game + as Faust xD

[steady leaf]

NG+ would be cool, maybe an even worse nightmare version of the zone with better equipped stalker death squads roaming around and worse mutations and anomaly fields

[upbeat kite]

Agree, there are interesting speculations about how map will expand, based on reachable objects close to edge of the map.

[steady leaf]

More buildings cuild be occupied by hostile factions and more snipers on rooftops making the game more sneak focused then (not the bs one shot barrier mechanic snipers but actual NPCs)

[mighty sentinel]

Im a fat woman and im proud of it

[celest blaze]

No one asked tbh

[boreal mica]

Who cares

[mighty sentinel]

I could report yall @boreal mica @celest blaze

[boreal mica]

Go for it

[celest blaze]

Do it

[mighty sentinel]

You know im good with the server owner right? 💀

Yalls 🍚

[steady leaf]

Lol this came out of nowhere, you lonely or something?

[boreal mica]

Also keep it to the topic and rules before you start threat reports

[celest blaze]

Giving me my dada bill gates energy tbh

[mighty sentinel]

Trolling the people who don't know better

[celest blaze]

Roleplaying as a fat person isn't trolling its just goofy

[nimble cipher]

makanda has been warned

Reason: trolling

[mighty sentinel]

Do i cahe

[celest blaze]

Teens shouldn't be allowed here honestly

[warped gull]

that start so bad without context

[celest blaze]

Lol

Naw just wish we had some mature members here not fat roleplayers

[warped gull]

as i said to oreo, is not that easy, cuz its easy to get sue, so the best way for a company is just keep this friendly

[mighty sentinel]

You better take that back to be honest. You have no idea who might just be sitting on that PC chatting here. General word of advice

[celest blaze]

Ain't no one lawsuiting anyone here haha

[celest blaze]

Is that a threat?

[mighty sentinel]

Reread that message

[celest blaze]

Stop while you're ahead

[steady leaf]

"take that back" usually has an "or" implied

[boreal mica]

Oh just ban him already

[celest blaze]

I'll give him one more chance since I am merciful

[mighty sentinel]

Mine doesnt. Literally stated its a general word of advice. Dunno why Sup is making it worse.

[steady leaf]

Then why say take that back if its not gonna do anything? without a threat associated you might as well not say it

[gritty orchid]

Bros not even that original, used the threat card/joke twice already.

Kysteppin rolling on his proverbial grave rn

[steady leaf]

Feels to me there was an implied threat, getting called out for it and then backpedaling, case closed

In fairness the threat was made already, tattle taling to a server admin

[boreal mica]

Nah, he openly admitted to trolling.

[steady leaf]

That too

I still dont get why they keep doing it, admitting to trolling, isnt that completely defeating the purpose? If you get revealed or called out

Its an excuse to hide the fact theyre just nasty people underneath

[boreal mica]

Like why to troll especially when there are at least two mods on the channel atm

[steady leaf]

Yea mind boggling

[steady leaf]

"just trolling i promise, im not a horrible dingus!"

[boreal mica]

I still have some faith in people so I hope he will reconsider his behavior (probably not) when he's back

[steady leaf]

I have too but not on the internet

[boreal mica]

I saw that cases

Also had nice conversation with people who were trolling/misbehaving after joining the server

[upbeat kite]

So, continuing content wishes in the zone, I’m curious if there’ll be expansion on firearms side or just cosmetic.

Secondly, apartment buildings could have more open spaces to get lost init

[steady leaf]

I was kinda expecting that all the buildings would be in a way accessible but wouldve been a bit unrealistic

Considering therye not procedurally generated, would be wayyy to much work to decorate each and every room in every building

[boreal mica]

Often DLCs add the new content, so prob there will the new guns. Also once I got lost ||in the apartment in the Pripyat- holes in the walls allowed me to move from apartment to the apartment, on the other hand it was some kind monolith base, so there were like 35-40 guys there||

[gritty orchid]

I am a simple man, I just want more items, either "trash" items or more food variety, like milk, fruits, etc

[steady leaf]

I want to try my hands at modding and make an ediple Pickle mod, that adds a jar of pickle as a food item in the game

[boreal mica]

Fresh oranges near the center of the Zone

[boreal mica]

Pickles would make sense as we can see them as a props in the game.

[steady leaf]

Yummy forbidden anomalous fruit

[gritty orchid]

Same with milk and a few others

[steady leaf]

Yea the jar already exists just need to add the pickle itself and use the sausage animations for eating, inventory system modding to allow for partial use of items

[boreal mica]

Probably spoiled. That's why we are getting condensed milk in a can.

[upbeat kite]

Agree, especially places you mentioned. However feels like that area could have been 20-30% more accessible.

@steady leaf There are some buildings decorated but nowhere accessible.

[gritty orchid]

I would love to drink spoiled milk

[boreal mica]

At the moment I've got the feeling that you can get into more buildings than you can't

[steady leaf]

You can drink curdled milk that has been sitting over couple days in the warm, wont hurt you put will be disgusting af

[upbeat kite]

You got definitely point. Logic is there, because crafting mechanisms don’t exist, more variety items could be nice.

[boreal mica]

God forbid devs from adding crafting into the game.

[steady leaf]

Crafting is whatever but add some items that allow for gear maintenance on the field, maybe balanced so that its still better to have them go thru a mechanic but the repair items help in a pinch

[upbeat kite]

I probably need maybe delve inside Pripyat more.

[jagged gale]

the fact that you'd say it's 9.0 makes me lose hope! 😭

[upbeat kite]

I meant in good way that doesn’t exist.

[gritty orchid]

The item variety "issue" can be easily fixed, they just need to add some quest items into the loot pool. Like maybe rename them to "broken-something" or "some random document stolen", so you can at least make a few CP from them

[steady leaf]

Or just valuable everyday items like some jewelry hidden away etc

[jagged gale]

SOC 7.9/10
COP 8.5/10
HOC 9/10
CS 9.2/10

[steady leaf]

Or scavenged electronics parts maybe, i mean theyre doing that already at Slag Heap

[boreal mica]

I would expect Skif more to be able to fly the helicopter than repair suit designed by most skilled technicians in the Zone (I don't remember where, but I stumbled onto the information, that Skif was a heli pilot in the army)

[jagged gale]

I refuse to believe that HOC is the worst STALKER game

[steady leaf]

But you can still add a temporary patch to a suit that has a puncture in it, i mean, i did it on my floatie as a kid

[boreal mica]

It isn't

[steady leaf]

And cleaning weapons is second nature to any ex military

[boreal mica]

I do that with my bike's wheel bladder but I don't expect it would help any way with the armor

[upbeat kite]

Lamp + batteries 🪫

[zinc apex]

yo guys which modpack should i play next

[steady leaf]

Yea but with these kinds of mechanics you always have to draw the line somwehere between realism and disbelief, the game already does it in bucketloads, realistically if you want to fix a broken body armor you need to 100% replace it

Most plates can take the first few hits then theyre useless

[boreal mica]

Maybe, but I'm glad that the game didn't turned as a garbage collection simulator like the some very popular mods.

[steady leaf]

Yeah thank the zone for that, theres a limit to it too, Fallout 4 was in that range

To a point where youre just looking at ground for stuff and missing all the pretty scenery

[boreal mica]

For me it is good as it is. They will probably add some few more items with DLC, but I wouldn't expect much in the range of the food or drinks.

[steady leaf]

Imo less loot overall but make it more varied and worth your while

Could be some complete junk thrown in the mix like how BG3 has a ton of useless household items and junk lying around, just for fluff

[celest blaze]

Call of the zone

[boreal mica]

I can agree with less loot, cause selling 200 bandages every once in a while is funny

[upbeat kite]

But how many junk could be used for killing variations xD

[steady leaf]

I only pick up ammo and other such useful, medkits etc i only take once ive used some, hate carrying that, also love how so many complain about the weight system but they carry like 14 vodka bottles, 12 water bottles and 7 beer bottles on them

Glass bottles be heavy, no wonder youre sinking

I drink most beer and vodka i found off the ground and shelfs, dont carry it

[boreal mica]

Same, keeping my equipment around 30-40 kilos depending on the guns and armor, like 10 medkits, later with good artifacts- 3 bandages just in case, maybe 3 water bottles/energy drinks, 2 psi blocks, 2 herculeses, 3 antirads and some ammo

I don't even pick up beer/vodka, cause I don't find useful

[steady leaf]

I keep slimming my loadout more and more every day feels like

[boreal mica]

Sometimes I keep it heavy- when I feel like carrying some funny RP-74 with ||500 ammo mag|| for fun and sweeping

Also fun tube for cats and psydogs

[silk orchid]

Guys I have a lore question what are ||The Corps in Pripyat?||

[boreal mica]

||private army of Degtyarev||

prob some ||ex military and experienced stalkers|| my favorite faction

[upbeat kite]

I like to carry only canned food, few med kits, bandages, antirad, with additional water. Rest on second run i leave in the zone.

[hardy bear]

Inventory cleaning on the field to fit more loot is really the only time any semblance of consumable scarcity actually starts to show

[boreal mica]

Broooo, keep it out of politics like that

[silk orchid]

Why do they exist

[boreal mica]

to keep ||Pripyat|| civil

[boreal mica]

like 2 cans of food is enough, it is everywhere

[silk orchid]

Right, okay. Huh.

[upbeat kite]

Yeah, or condensed milk. 🥛

[boreal mica]

I find it relaxing watching how Skiff pop the holes in this can with his knife. The sound is also very satisfying.

[mortal wren]

anyone know how to fix the game already running thing, its not running as admin but i can't launch the game, i preordered this buit i've never actually been able to play the game for more than a few minutes lol

[boreal mica]

run file diagnostics on steam

[silk orchid]

That's it? A bit lame, bootleg ward

[mortal wren]

i have and reinstalled the game it won't ever luanch i just get "game running with custom arguments" and it won't launch, even though i have none

[boreal mica]

Did you saw what happened to the Ward in the Pripyat? ||the amount of bodies next to the heli||

[silk orchid]

No, why?

[boreal mica]

||They didn't last long||

[silk orchid]

Did big D do that?

[mortal wren]

is there anyplace to get support for this game i have tried every few days to play since launch i can't even get to the main menu anymore

[boreal mica]

Nah, the Zone. Diegi's guys would eat them for a breakfast.

[boreal mica]

#s2-support

[silk orchid]

Huh, stupid STALKER writing, if they were smart they would just send BM-21s to Pripyat to level the town and just walk in victorious. Smh

[steady leaf]

Stalker 2, beer, nacho cheese puffs and crunchy chicken tenders to snack on, what a friday

[boreal mica]

The same feeling when you are shooting wallet warriors in f2p games

[steady leaf]

Why not just nuke the zone?

[silk orchid]

HE rockets would work amazing against Monolith

[hardy bear]

Cause artifacts cool

[steady leaf]

Or we would have an even bigger megazone, as a result

[mortal wren]

man i have like the best PC you can get as a normal person and i've never been able to launch this game, am sadge

[silk orchid]

Artillery en masse would cripple them, they do not have the numbers to recover from the losses

[steady leaf]

And i have a 5 year old toaster with a 3060 and have been having little to no issues perf or crashes wise

Seems like this game throws dice on each player if it works well or not

[hardy bear]

Tbf loading the game has a 50-50 chance to work or not. And there are still huge drops to 30fps which aren’t that fun. Is it just loading into it that’s not working

[mortal wren]

it hasn't run for more than 5 minutes at a time and i've been trying every few days since the preorder launch, i have a 4070 with 64GB of DDR5 and a 13th gen I7

[steady leaf]

Only problem area have been southern swamps and Rostok, where the frame dips were so horrible it was nearly unplayable, everywhere else been smooth

[steady leaf]

Sounds like there has to be more to it than the game simply not working on that system, dunno what though

[mortal wren]

ye its a beast system everythging else runs fine, but i have never been able to play stalker2 but i've owned it for to long so i can't refund, idk what to do

[boreal mica]

Also I'm building rig tomorrow, it would be funny if it won't run the game.

Mfw game ran perfectly on 3050 6 gigs laptop

[steady leaf]

Past from contacting Support here, dunno really, hope it gets solved though, would suck a ton not being able to play what you buy especially when the game has been so amazing

[meager kindle]

escape from chernobyl

[mortal wren]

i spent like 5k building this PC, stalker2 being one of the main games i was upgrading it for, and it has never run lol

[steady leaf]

Out of curiosity, have you tried it thru game pass? maybe get the trial month for free and try it thru that? shot in the dark but its something, other than that all i could think of are drivers, i have had some issues with games where a newer driver version didnt work with it and had to rollback

[mortal wren]

i have no idea i've spent hours reading through forums trying all the random fixes, i just try every few months to see if it will work with the newer updates but no luck :/

[steady leaf]

:(

[hardy bear]

If it’s shouting at you for having custom arguments, maybe resetting your config files could help? I believe they were located outside of the game. That or maybe some global gpu control panel setting maybe. Complete shots in the dark

[mortal wren]

idk i just deleted everything in the config and saved in the appdate thing and i'm verifying again, maybe itll work

[chilly nexus]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ Give Update Pls ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[dire dagger]

Ight dropping update now

[mortal wren]

same issue :(

[upbeat kite]

Sending that individual or how?

[dire dagger]

Joke is I’m not

Cus I don’t work for gsc

[upbeat kite]

I know , so bad with my comprehension isn't yet. xD

[hardy bear]

He’ll send it to people who behave

[worn oar]

Literally

[upbeat kite]

Wont be me this time... xD i have been executing most npc's after completing their quest ..

[jagged gale]

you polish too?
elo

[boreal mica]

Nah, what does it make you think so?

[upbeat kite]

Naaa, i need to use chatGepete to communicate with him here.

[north violet]

So, did y'all see that article about that guy calling S2 archaic and mediocre? Don't have the link unfortunatley, I only saw a snippet about it in a YouTube video.

[hardy bear]

No and I don’t think I will

[jade geyser]

cause I saw u drink vodka

[hardy bear]

I’m all for looking at other people’s perspective, but only if it’s got some actual thought and criticism behind it

[boreal mica]

It's funny cause I hate vodka. I haven't drank it for at least 6 years.

[jade geyser]

u are not polak anymore

[boreal mica]

Ye, the second part is that the bigger drunks than Poles are French, Germans and Czechs.

[bold creek]

9.0 / 10 its an amazing game , bro thats a really high score, any other AAA game in the past 10 years gets al 5 or a 6 for me , with some exceptions here and there, if they implement Alife that turns into a 9.5 for me

[upbeat kite]

I would argue here, personally had a chance to meet Finnish plebs, and they as well stand very high on the podium.

[north violet]

From what I saw this is actually the case, and to a point I kind of agree with him.

From what I remember, it basically boiled down to:

* S2 not (currently) living up to the expectations set by the original trilogy.

* It is standing on the shoulders of titans.

* It suffered by not being made by the same people (which isn't entirely true).

* Despite the negatives, it does have the good bones to become a worthy follow-up to the original trilogy.

Which...yeah, I don't fully disagree. However I don't see the game being archaic as a bad thing, if anything I almost feel like that's part of the reason it's been so successful; it's a nostalgic break from the trends of modern gaming which a lot of people are very clearly sick of.

I also don't feel like I can call the game mediocre; it's very clearly unfished and needed more time in the oven, but I see way too many examples of genuine love, care, and passion that have been put into this game to declare it as mediocre.

[boreal mica]

I mean Poland is 10th IIRC on the world's most consumption of alcohol, so not bad.

[upbeat kite]

Yeah, but end of the day no one can beat Skiff.

[bold creek]

• It is standing on the shoulders of titans.
  -what titan?
• It suffered by not being made by the same people (which isn't entirely true).
  -a game doesnt need to be made by the original people, in fact some sequels have been made by other developers, and people didnt realize it.

[hardy bear]

I’ve been saying this with my friends a lot, but it’s a very big game made by a team that haven’t made a modern AAA game before, trying to latch on to what made a 15 year old game shine in their view, in an attempt to continue the vision of the ones who made it prior. It’s people who care an awful lot, and it feels really close to how the games played before, but to me held back by the simple inexperience in making games like these, as the majority of issues for me are ones that stem from the world being so huge

[bold creek]

the game is missing alife and some small features here and thats it, thats the only reason some people think "oh the magic is gone" Alife is the corner stone of a stalker experience, Alife is literally the only feature that separates stalker from other game, alife also is the only reason to play a stalker game where if its missing you can play and find some similar experience in other games.

that being said, all that bullsheet about devs not being the original one, AAA competition, etc etc, all that jazz is just bullsheet.

[hardy bear]

I knew going into it that a life would be nowhere near as tangible, it’s so unbelievably huge in scale that the same system that worked in instances worlds about 1/10 the size would either

A) Not be functional at all

B) Not be tangible enough as the scale of the world would lead to next to no actual encounters between entities.

Of course I want a good system, but my expectations weren’t that high to begin with

[north violet]

In this context, the titans are the original S.T.A.L.K.E.R. trilogy.

No, a game doesn't need to be made by the original people to be good or to stay true the original vision, but it does make sticking to that original vision easier.

Luckily, while most of the GSC from back then is now at 4A games and elsewhere, I know for a fact that there are some OGs present at the company or at least still employed with them while they're off fighting in the war.

Additionally, the newer members of the team and staff are very clearly passionate about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as a franchise, and I 100% believe that they "get it", so I think any fears around the original vision being lost are unfounded.

[jagged gale]

fair

[north violet]

Well I just disagree with the take of "it's mediocre". Mediocrity at least for me would imply that there was clearly a lack of effort, care, and passion and that is most definitely not the case even with the game's unfinished state.

[hardy bear]

Although all in all it’s a matter of expectations and satisfaction. People who don’t tend to click with what they are playing or had way higher expectations are bound to call something mediocre. A bit extreme but opinions are opinions

[bold creek]

alife is totally capable of working in S2, who ever says it cannot be made in S2 because of the map size, doesnt know about programming, S2 map is bigger yes, would be more challenging yes it would be challenging, but totally and absolutely capable of implementing, in fact 5 Modders would program a proper alife in a month if they gave the SDK away.

[bold creek]

if a player can understand the core idea of stalker and put it on paper without seeing the line of code, then any developer can understand the original vision too, its convenient to have a OG developer? yes, its necesary, no , so there is no "oh they arent the OG devs thats why the game so and so... "

[north violet]

I've brought that up too; this is a AA studio's first attempt at a AAA-scale project and expecting the release to be anything other than rocky at the very least is just unrealistic.

And honestly, I think this would have happened regardless of whether or not all of the original team were involved; the S2 we got seems to be far greater in scope than S2 2012 and I think they would had similar difficulties as well.

@bold creek I know, I'm agreeing with you.

[hardy bear]

There seems to be this theory that it’s impossible for somebody to understand the design intentions behind old games, it’s kinda bizarre

[north violet]

@worthy zodiac You wanted to say something? I saw you typing.

[bold creek]

exactly, the map is too big too much content too many things to do (good things) the OG devs would miss same deadline with the time they have to release the game, its a matter of numbers, microsoft pushed S2 to release too early, its okey, we wait a couple of months, we have alife and then we are goated for the next 10 years

[north violet]

Right? Like just because it's not all of the same people doesn't mean they won't "get it".

And again, while the majority of the GSC from back then is now at 4A and elsewhere, there are indeed company OGs that were involved with S2's development as per the documentary.

Hell, the guy who literally invented A-Life is still with the company, but he's sadly deployed to the front.

Well I value the game very, very much, but I'll still readily point out flaws and other issues that I see, I just make sure I'm constructive about it.

In terms of effort though, GSC gets top marks from me.

[bold creek]

exactly, thats a wrong concept some players have, its a matter of how competent a developer is , you bring any hardcore stalker fan into a meeting and anyone could explain how the game should feel, what is a good idea and not a good idea to put into the game, even more we have evidence, the modding community creating gamma, radiophobia, anomaly, etc etc, so many mods made by thousands of players and they get it, they know how the game should feel.

[hardy bear]

Although that is admittedly where it starts to get a bit mucky, in stalker’s case especially. It’s had so long fostering a modding community that at this point in time there’s potential for every player not only have a different modlist that changes the fundamental experience, but also a different perception of what that experience is. A group of 20 could probably each define their own ‘stalker’

[bold creek]

true, different flavors, but at the end of the day , if the game feels like Stalker but with some changes (more difficult, maybe unfair or complex weapon mechanics) they still follow the same vibration and vibe of the original idea.

[hardy bear]

Like I don’t consider the stalker experience doing 5 radiant quests to earn the money to buy a barrel which is one of 5 components of a broken gun, but to some that’s what they’ve experienced and what they want out of the games. It then gets a little bit messy

[north violet]

That's true, I've seen people complaining that S2 is nothing like Anomaly or GAMMA.

Don't get me wrong, there are features from those mods that I would actually like to see officially added to S2 at some point, but S2 was never going to be like GAMMA.

(And before anyone says, yes I know that most if not all of the features in GAMMA are from the myriad of mods that make it up, but it's easier for communications' sake to just call them GAMMA features.)

[bold creek]

a mod like gamma maybe in another universe it was an official game made by GSC, and i dont think many people wouldve complain about that game.
It still holds the core stalker idea.

[hardy bear]

For me stalker is about the world and its people. Seeing people’s motives for being there, what part of its ‘eastern wild west’ tempts people there, what good comes out of the dire while piecing together the history of this place frozen in time. So I don’t care too much for complex weapon systems, ballistics or the like. It’s the stories that matter the most to me be them environmental, authored, systemic or character driven

[north violet]

It still holds the core stalker idea
Eh kind of. It veers a bit from the traditional S.T.A.L.K.E.R. gameplay loop and makes it a bit more Tarkov-y, but from the videos I've watched it still very much feels like S.T.A.L.K.E.R., at least to me.

[bold creek]

oh no , i dont want S2 to be like Gamma, never expect it, but i appreciate how some fans would gather up and made a sort of unofficial "stalker sequel" and actual feels like stalker, that what am appreciating , the fact than any fan can recapture the stalker experience without being the original dev.

[north violet]

There are still some features from those modes that I would genuinely like to see added officially, but it won't be the end of the world if I have to use mods to get that.

[hardy bear]

I won’t go on a rant about how gamma is the end of the world, or really bash people who wanted s2 to be like it since it makes sense from their perspective, but it’s just an example of how the classic’s design can be interpreted

[bold creek]

exactly, true. And thats why Alife is important, alife shows the motivation of every stalker, how the live and breath the same as the player. S2 still is providing that stalker story even without alife which is a great achievement

[north violet]

I won't go on a rant about how gamma is the end of the world, or really bash people who wanted S2 to be like it

Thanks for this. While I will join on in the GAMMA-bashing for funsies, I don't actually hate the mod or the people who play it, and I don't think it ruins S.T.A.L.K.E.R..

[hardy bear]

Yeah. Systemic events can breathe narrative in places where it wasn’t intended to exist, and that much I love, so I do hope for some improvements on that front. Its mostly the other gamma specific things that I have lower on my priorities list

[bold creek]

thats why everyone is holding their breaths for Alife , the moment we get it we are so BACK! but if for some reason GSC implements a watered down alife, we riot

[hardy bear]

My friends are all gamma players and I’m still trying to find some part of it I can enjoy. In the end it’s something else to play, it’s only when a game sequel comes out that relies on the combined direction of a full team where these communities end up clashing

[north violet]

I think we're interpreting "valuing a game" differently. Even in its' current state, I still value S2 on a personal level, and the technical state of the game isn't a major factor for how much I value the game. That's not to say that the technical issues and missing features are unimportant and that I don't want to see these issues fixed, but that I still see value in the game even without them.

(I'll also say that the graphics mean nothing to me; they could have just released it on whatever version of X-Ray GAMMA is running and I would have been perfectly happy.)

I also have faith in GSC that they'll be able to deliver on a final product that's truly worthy of the original trilogy's legacy, it's just going to take more time.

[north violet]

I've never touched GAMMA specifically, but I have played Anomaly. At least for me it's that "hobo stage" that turned me off the whole thing; I don't have the spare time to invest into something like that anymore.

If video games were literally my only hobby then maybe, but I have other hobbies and interests I would like to devote time to. It's the same reason I dropped all MMOs a few years ago; it's all too much of a time sink.

[granite mortar]

so many G words
Yall owe me some cat pics

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/nyam-nyam-cat-gif-10537771058415659969

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[bold creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-broken-cat-cat-drinking-cat-licking-cat-air-gif-20661740

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-flash-bang-gif-24943684
cat experiencing flashbang anomaly

[north violet]

☝️ No embed permissions, laugh at this person.

[hardy bear]

For me I feel its the fact that I’ve explored the whole world before, its stories aren’t that interesting in this modded variant, and the only push is whatever intrinsic goal you set, but I just don’t find that as enjoyable. Strange because in something like stealth games I revel in that internal goal to look cool, I guess it’ll just take a bit more scrounging around to find what I can latch onto

[bold creek]

maybe you can act like GAMMA mod is the life of an npc if the player had control over it, not doing the main quest but instead surviving and adventuring, or at least thats what i do in S2 from time to time, just travel, find things, explore, kill mutant, come back , sell stuff

[north violet]

@bold creek Conceptually, I do like the idea of a free-roam sandbox S.T.A.L.K.E.R. where you have the freedom to truly make your own story. You're not a preexisting character like in the original trilogy or S2, you are truly you and the Zone is your oyster; whether you languish in mediocrity or become the next Legend of the Zone is fully up to you.

[hardy bear]

I can’t push myself to roleplay that much. I’ll do subtle camera work in stealth choreos or room clears to inject a little story or style points but that level wouldn’t fill the gaps for me, would still feel the same

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cutecat-cute-sadcat-bigcat-gif-4742847039459432200

[hardy bear]

I stil play like it’s me at the wheel

[north violet]

For me, it's still role-playing, but it's role-playing as myself if that makes any sense; if I was a stalker in the Zone, what would I do? What would my goals and ambitions be? What is my reason for being here?

[boreal mica]

TheBulletSkiff

[hardy bear]

Yeah I don’t really do that. I do look out to the world and think about the people and the world itself, pondering what they have been through and what they think, but I still behave like it’s not necessarily me - but an avatar of me. Will take it slow to explore buildings and look at the interior structure and decor, but I’ll still make sure I optimise my storage if that makes sense

[north violet]

Well that is kind of what I mean by "role-playing as myself"; I'm treating this thing as an avatar of myself.

Not sure what you mean about optimizing storage?

[hardy bear]

Essentially I do approach something like combat or exploration like 'if I was in this bunker, what would I do', it's moreso 'I want to explore this bunker slowly because I want to take in all its atmopshere and stories'. By optimising storage as an example I mean to say I know it's a game, and I don't necessarily make top many compromises to inject myself into it, but there's this middleground where I do sort of... external roleplay I guess? Rolplay to immerse myself in the world but not necessarily the character

[north violet]

Well I mean like, stalker-me is significantly more pragmatic and ruthless than the real me. Like that stalker who left his friend to be killed by a pack of fleshes, I had no compunctions about popping him in the back of the head after he told me what he had done, whereas in real life, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do that.

[hardy bear]

I suppose it boils down to me finding it better when there are some character traits present to give me a personality to extend through how I behave in game rather than having a blank slate that i build up from scratch. It's much easier to semi-roleplay as Jin in Tsushima or Corvo in Dishonored than unnamed-stalker in a freeplay mod

[north violet]

@worthy zodiac Go ahead and say your piece, don't worry too much about interrupting.

[hardy bear]

even if said character is fairly barebones, I'm just not at the point where I can fully enjoy doing that for a blank character

[north violet]

What's the name of that Dishonored video essay? "What do you do when no one can stop you?" or something?

It's an interesting question.

I like doing non-lethal in Dishonored because I think it's more skillful to avoid detection altogether rather than leave a pile of bodies.

[hardy bear]

Was that Leadhead's one? Watched too many to be able to remember them all haha. But yeah I like that sort of setup. It's a character starter that gives you room to inject your own decisions but not a blank slate which gives me little motivation to make any choice at all

[inner mural]

this is what i mostly do aswell, maybe most people do? becuase ive seen this in fallout 3 and new vegas that hardly anyone wants to be evil in thoughs games unless they want to role-plays as an smartass

[north violet]

I feel genuinely bad doing evil playthroughs and I can't really stomach it anymore. Yes I know it's silly but that's just how I feel.

[hardy bear]

people tend to play evil after a good run, as it's been drilled into our preconception that being good in games gives you the good endings, and people want those first. It tends to be harder to avoid the evil path than follow it in most games

Like my first playthrough of dishonored - Non lethal ghost, low chaos.

Second playthrough - kill everyone in elaborate ways with such style that i'll post a rehearsed and choreographed run on youtube lol

[tiny token]

this is a AA studio's first attempt at a AAA-scale project
well put. i am confident they are going to fix most issues with the game due to this clearly being a passion project and a love letter. what i am worried about is how much they are technically capable of fixing; after all, time is limited and some things might just be too much to fix

[quaint sluice]

Hello boss, does anyone know if they gonna add the "relations" and "statistics" categories in stalker 2 on PDA?

[tiny token]

meow

[inner mural]

ikr??? and then you get constant reminders of that decision with 3 dog who made it like that??? TODD!!! WHY IS MY FALLOUT 3 SAYING I DID BAD STUFF BUT IT WAS GOOD???

[round frost]

True that lol!

[inner mural]

also you can do the most evil thin in fo3 and then give a homless person water and become good again that right there is... UGH what were they THINKING???

fallout new vegas has a strange thing with the karma system, they went with reputation instead of karma, you can kill fiends in their territory and gain godlike karma becuase FNV doesent really use it

oh and the pitt DLC too lol steal baby> become good action becuase raiders are parents> cure everyone> baby grows up and wants revenge for the death of his real parents...> quickly become mailman and move to nevada> events of FNV take place

[hardy bear]

[inner mural]

omg... maybe that was BENNY! benny was the baby in the pitt if you have TTW xD

sorry for nerding out on fallout stuff but yeah xD stalker 2 is indeed the topic, wish more stalker games had an actual reputation system

like clear sky had, i hope they make it into the PDA at some point or some mod does it

[north violet]

So first off, I'm with you on all of the issues you raised and I do hope they're resolved and/or changed to better interact with each other.

As for how I value games and what makes a game "good" for me, let me break it down a bit.

For me, a "good" game has:

* An enjoyable and satisfying gameplay loop.

* Good writing (where applicable; I don't need to care about story in something like Duke Nukem beyond "Aliens are invading, kill they ass.")

* A good soundtrack (this isn't a strict requirement but it will earn bonus points from me).

* A good (and consistent) visual aesthetic; I'm not talking about graphics, I'm talking about what's being made with those graphics, what color palettes are being used, are we going for stylized or photorealistic, etc. A game with a good aesthetic will always age better than a game with the most cutting edge graphics possible.

* Clear signs of love, care, and passion having been put into the game's development; even if a game falls short of its' initial ambitions or is straight-up unfinished and needs more time, I will still like it because I can see the work that was put into it, and I will value it far more than some committee-designed schlock from Ubisoft, EA, Activision, etc.

As for what games do I consider to be as good as it gets for me personally, that's an extremely tough question for me to answer. Just listing off a few:

* Half Life 1 & 2 (including Episodes 1 & 2)

* The Long Dark

* SnowRunner

* Stardew Valley

* Brigador

* Underspace

* Freelancer

* SWAT 3 and SWAT 4

* Cruelty Squad

* Paratopic

* Off-Peak and its sequels

* The Witcher 3

I have many more but this is getting long.

Technical issues can be resolved provided the game hasn't been abandoned, and graphical fidelity isn't an important factor to me. I am looking at each part of a game to form a bigger picture, but I'm looking at different characteristics than you are.

[hardy bear]

they made it seem like there was, but that might have just been exaggeration or cut

[north violet]

They've got like 400 employees, I think they can do it. I mean look at how quickly they were putting out patches after release.

[inner mural]

FREELANCER yes yes and YES that game was awsome! i hope some point MS remasters it or remakes it in UE5

[north violet]

Microsft has been sitting on the IP for 20 years now and doing absolutely nothing with it. It's abandonware at this point and I'm not sure if we'll ever even see it come to GOG.

Luckily there's a crazy guy called Trainwiz who's developing a true spiritual successor called Underspace. While it's not grounded, hard-ish sci-fi like Freelancer was, I can say with confidence that it is a true spiritual successor and worthy of Freelancer's legacy. Feel free to join the Discord, I'm on there as well and we have a good time, though it's been kind of quiet recently.

(Not going to post an invite link because I'm pretty sure that's against the rules.)

It's probably because I'm a creative (hobbyist musician, artist and writer, would like to try acting as well, voice acting specifically) and I'm firmly in the "Games are art" camp. (I mean, they legally are, but people still debate this.)

That's why seeing obvious love, care, passion, etc. is so important to me; I'd rather see that the team game a sh*t about what they were making even if they don't get it perfectly on release, even if it's unfinished and missing features.

Don't get me wrong, I want all of the issues you brought up to be dealt with, but S2 very clearly has some good bones, and I have faith that GSC can do it.

[steady leaf]

Fist bump, am an employed 3D artist with long history in illustration and concept art

[hardy bear]

and me as someone studying game design who writes an obscene number of documents analysing games I play, it's easier to find the good in something

[steady leaf]

Its always so fun looking at new game releases and how they did all the art for the game, what shortcuts i can find and what new cool looking things

[inner mural]

oh yes yes indeed games are indeed art similar to films theres LOTS of people devoted to one game sometimes 1000s films can also be art too like Charlie Chaplin, but games can also be only one person like with minecraft and notch

[steady leaf]

And yes, games are art

[steady leaf]

everything is involved in creative process from the first draft to post mortem

[north violet]

I'm not sure how to respond to this?

[north violet]

Underspace is also being made by just one guy, which is really freaking impressive.

[worn oar]

Just trying nitro features on you

[hardy bear]

is that the deus ex / system shock inspired one?

[north violet]

No, it's a spiritual successor to Freelancer, a space combat/trading "sim" from the early 2000s. Also made by Chris Roberts, and also was falling victim to scope-creep, but the only reason it didn't end up like Star Citizen is because the studio was bought out by Microsoft and Chris stayed on as only a consultant.

[north violet]

You might be thinking of Cruelty Squad maybe? I'm honestly not sure what title you're thinking of.

[hardy bear]

retrospace, that was it

[north violet]

@worthy zodiac I'm going to go play S2 now (or maybe something else) but I promise I will read your reply and respond to it some time tomorrow.

[hardy bear]

i'm trying to but it's taken 4 launches and still hasn't been able to open

make that 5

[boreal mica]

Ahh good to see nice faces in a friendly civil discussion

[inner mural]

for me i mostly look at video games/films as if its from a chapter book perspective, its lore, story and history, like that old saying "you cant judge a book by its cover" which alot of people seem to do nowadays :/ books might be old but we are very much inspired by them in video games/films

[boreal mica]

Did you read the books about Witcher? The author was clearly inspired by the game

Man, if you're not native don't care about state of your English. Most of the folks here will understand what you wanted to say. Have some faith in yourself, I've read that wall of text and I get it.

Ahhh

Also your English isn't mediocre at all

Nah, I sometimes forget words in my native

[steady leaf]

The ledge grab mod even on its lowest setting is just ruining the game, more often than it being useful it just causes your death, like when you try a careful jump up high on top of a railing you vault instead over it and into your death, it is sooooooo finicky to get right

And so often you end up getting stuck when you vault into something you didnt intend to especially in combat situations when panicking

2/5 wouldnt recommend

[steady leaf]

Also it leads the player to constantly jump around looking for cheese spots for jumping puzzles when the actual solution is nowhere near that complex, i found

Some more mobility for a tunnel rat stalker would be sweet, but theyre no ninjas

That kinda stuff you explained are done by professional parkourists

And we carry a lot of loot, which is heavy, it should be reflected in our movements too

And slow motion always removes immersion for me

If its a game focusing on immersion then more fun can indeed be more detrimental to the core focus, this game would then just be a clone of modern fallout games

why not add a jump pack to exoskeletons while were at it

Its more fun right? who doesn t like to fly around with rocket boosts?

sorry that came off a bit pedantic, what i meant that in a game like this its better that our guy is a normal dude who just has military training and is in no way special from the rest of stalkers out there

[left terrace]

hey has this game been fixed yet? is x + y mouse sensitivity the same now? or at least changeable?

[steady leaf]

No what i was talking about were the moves you mentioned that you wished the game had, not the ledge grab mod

And honestly, with full combat gear it takes immense upper torso power to pull yourself up a ledge

And thats just the basics covering the armor gun and ammo, not your loot

Also, the ledge grabbing mod turned a lot of mutant encounters from panic fests into easy mode when you can just casually hop over a car and turkey shoot them from safety

Some suspension of disbelief is always necessary when youre making a game, do you seriously think anyone would sit thru months of recovery from a bullet wound? your point is moot

But having your guy be some urban ninja goes against the core focus of stalker games, youre nobody, a trash tunnel rat not worth the stuff youre carrying

So when youre clumsy and cant pull yourself up carrying some 100kg along with armor on your back, it just adds to the feeling

Then if your guy is so nimble in ledge pulling why wouldnt he have more stamina then? or faster movements

Its all calculated to balance a certain feel of play and narrative, them making him not able to pull up ledges up his face level is a decision they made, in a meeting room, thru a ton of testing

[inner mural]

lol i felt the same thing when going though radar and the power plant part in SOC, everything wants to kill you with RPGs, sniper rifles and railguns x.x

[steady leaf]

And even we as a Skif is an important player everyone wants to use and abuse were still nobody, just a tool there for some other purposes it feels like, im not spoiling

And actually you can be very fast in movement and jump far and higher if you just dont carry as much, at around 35kg you can outmanouver just about anything

Oh god a wall of text coming

Sorry that was not fair..

Sure

[brisk plover]

Hey friends, does anyone have an overview of how different factions are dressed? I tried googling but it only lists them by name

More specofically, the orange, beige and blue guys are... Scientists? Army?

[steady leaf]

From my experience it doesnt matter if you differentiate them from one another since a lot of faction guys that normally hate you on sight can be totally cool with you elsewhere at some other point in the story

Like, a lot of merc groups have been totally chill when others will backstap or shoot on sight

[coral locust]

Bruh the memory leaks are killing me, I play the game 30-40 mins and then all of a sudden frames drop to 10-20 fps and the game is unplayable. I heard that disabling frame gen helps with it but tried it and it didn't change anything but drop my consistent frames from 80+ to 50-60. I hope they patch this in the next update

[brisk plover]

Hah, thats nice

[steady leaf]

Same with Loners and Bandits, some loners will try to backstab you too so be mindful

[steady leaf]

Sounds like the Ward

[brisk plover]

I'm currently being hunted by large teams of exo guys that are or, beig, blue. Cant get a breather they have it ib for me😆

Ok so ward, thanks

[steady leaf]

Are they blue or beige? 😄 Because if theyre mostly blue then its the Spark

[brisk plover]

Not spark! Mostly beige. I see vehicles too, like apc's with same coloring, so i was betting army but

[steady leaf]

What I do when i dont know hostile or not is just raise my gun to their head level and slowly approach, if they pull up theyre dead, simple maths

[brisk plover]

They wanna die they can, but for me its exoensive 😅

[granite mortar]

Army isnt real anymore
Got replaced with IPSF (lame)
I would gladly pay Kuznetsov 500 rublos to return

[steady leaf]

I like how the military has been replaced, its as if the country has no resources to even fight the zone anymore and has to ask for outside mercenary help, (IPSF is basically merc military)

Such as your Blackwater groups

[brisk plover]

Thats what i thought too

[steady leaf]

Also using local military in a local problem asks for local problems

Whats to know if a conscript up a tower isnt aiming at his cousin crawling thru the sewer line or something

[granite mortar]

Noooo
My corrupt besties got replaced by fuсking mercs of all things
Its joever
Last nail to the coffin of Stalker 2
What they did to lore I could get over
Obokan being removed.. I cried but I got over it
Stupid Lumen and UE5 I can deal with
AI utilization off the scale I can deal with
Returning characters being shit I can get over

But THIS
thats just too much

[steady leaf]

Is... is that a rhyme?

[bold creek]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-kanyevibe-gif-23816851

[granite mortar]

No
Its cry for help
Removing interesting take on army in favour of fuсking borderguard mercs...

[celest blaze]

Why tf did they get rid of the obokan honestly

Nothing in stalker is realistic anyway so why not keep that rare af rifle

[steady leaf]

Why is that a more interesting take? i want to hear your take on it

[bold creek]

i dont think he can take it anymore, hes done with the game

[brisk plover]

Sounds like you know civil war

Also confirmed, those beige and orange bastards were ward 🙂

[steady leaf]

Actually, i kinda agree now to a point after thinking a bit, if the military there were locals it would add a whole ton of more dynamics in their dealings with stalkers rather than this faceless outside force that mostly shoot on sight and sometimes chill with mercs

[brisk plover]

BAPTA

[steady leaf]

Maybe they wanted to nail in more the fact how the zone is under assault from different outside forces, And from that point i totally understand it

No idea if the IPSF will play a more major role late game i only just completed Orbita station

[granite mortar]

Because they seem just like assholes who shoot people but theres much more to it
They are underpaid so they make money by other means
They trade with some factions, supply and guard researchers
Have goals other than guarding a wall (its 20 meters tall concrete wall it can guard itself)
They can actually be reasoned with in some cases

IPFS is just generic bad guys from the outside
Faceless drones with no depth

[inner mural]

i already miss the military guys 😦

[granite mortar]

I want my corrupt army bois that let me pass for 3 breads worth of rublos

[steady leaf]

Well, in reality, there are a lot of faceless, drones, with no depth, out there, out to get ya

Take that as you will

[inner mural]

i miss the guy who kept yelling in the loudspeaker in the cordon back! xD he was funny "WHOS KNOCKING AROUND DOWN THERE EH? LET ME COME DOWN AND GIVE YOU A GOOD HAMMERING!!!"

[steady leaf]

Sometimes villains can be just depthless dicks, without more explanations

And tbf they havent really played a role in the story yet so, except the Solder guy and the Sphere

Maybe im reaching but in soviet block there wer a lot of depthless dicks and evils there without any meaning out to get ya, just because they could

[tiny token]

meow

[steady leaf]

Im mostly playing devil´s advocate here, id be more interested in seeing the previous military in this setting

[granite mortar]

Yeah but they should be lead by actual characters
Not by more faceless dicks we dont even see

Now this is a random ass comparision but take Decepticons from Transformers Prime
They are literal faceless drones but thats just the generic soldiers, theres ton of important standout Decepticon characters with depth and personality, its not just drones and thats what makes it interesting

Also the thing about Soviet Bloc...
Eh
In the Commie Bloc government was ass
So regular people were closer
So I would say there wasnt that many dicks
They just were on the spotlight

[tiny token]

i have a feeling freedom and duty had massive quests about them that were cut. i mean, freedom was mentioned to be getting greedy and forgetting about their initial ideals, there's some stuff about duty having 2 leaders or something? overall quite sad

[steady leaf]

Yeah some introduction to them early wouldve been nice, but its also great how some of the politics are left subtle and left for the player to figure out, as it would also shape a lot of your decisions, knowing or not knowing

[granite mortar]

They cut the corrupt army just to make the most idealist faction the new corrupt swines
For gods sake

[steady leaf]

How are they idealists? theyre there to secure the zone and shoot any intruders right?

[granite mortar]

What is there to decide
I see faceless depthless boring character that wants me dead... I shoot

[granite mortar]

I wad talking about Freedom
In reaction to what Arseniy said

[steady leaf]

No i meant that as a generalization, that not everything have to be hamfisted for you

[steady leaf]

No how are freedom idealists? all they are is bandit lite

[granite mortar]

Well a game if this size could (and should) have actual characters for factions of this importance

[steady leaf]

They say they want to have zone free for all but you still see them trying to take control of it in the same stroke

[granite mortar]

._.
Okay thats enough
Im out

[blissful grotto]

clear sky supremacy

[tiny token]

are you a newfren?

[steady leaf]

No pls read the above before you do, but you seem to be immune to speaking sense

Everything Freedom spouts they contradict in their actions lol, Theyre literally no better than duty

[tiny token]

you can't have the zone be free for all if there are other factions that want to destroy it (duty), or harm other stalkers (monolith)

[tiny token]

if you don't fight back against them then what's the point of your ideals if they won't make it to fruition

[celest blaze]

Freedom are NOT bandit lites

[toxic vector]

that gun may be a bit complicated to code its mechanic, 2 first rounds in burst has to be high rof.

[celest blaze]

Freedom have goals

Also freedom defend the barrier against the monolith horde

Bandits ain't doing that

[celest blaze]

Fair point

[steady leaf]

But they are chill and allow bandits and their shenanigans? how isnt that faction play, since bandits ALWAYS form into factions to make a larger force

[tiny token]

freedom is against bandits though?

[celest blaze]

Freedom aren't the police

[brisk plover]

Bandits are rabble

[steady leaf]

Nope theyre literally funding and arming a bandit kingpin in garbage called the Shah, should be obvious if you play the game

[blissful grotto]

WOAH DUDE WEEED LMAOOO!!! -freedom

[tiny token]

that comes from them being corrupt as part of stalker 2, that ain't their original ideals

[celest blaze]

Freedom (uk. Воля) is a paramilitary faction of ideologically motivated, initiative stalkers illegally operating in the Zone. Therefore, they often find themselves in a direct conflict with the Zone's authorities, their ideological opponents and rivals such as Duty, fanatics, Mercenaries and Bandits. However, they are neutral to Free stalkers, scientists and are accepting of former members from all factions. The faction's goal is to prevent government cover up of the zone or anyone gaining monopoly over it's resources and intel, they believe further research and open access to the zone and it's resources and secrets would be a great benefit to humanity.

[steady leaf]

And they have been chill with bandits thru the series if im not wrong right?

[celest blaze]

They aren't

This is bait

[tiny token]

shouldn't argue with a monolith pfp you're right

[blissful grotto]

xd

[steady leaf]

This is implying that ideas arent corruptible

[celest blaze]

The wiki states freedom and bandits are enemies

[tiny token]

you are going off on a random tangent

[steady leaf]

Welp it seems i should play the originals again, been a long while

[blissful grotto]

this guy prays to broken radio towers talking of ideology

[celest blaze]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Freedom

[boreal mica]

Freedom 🤮

[celest blaze]

Freedom > duty but I am still opps with freedom

[tiny token]

duty more like booty hehehehe

[blissful grotto]

freedom and duty are my sworn opponents

[celest blaze]

Freedom chads fighting Bravely at the barrier

[steady leaf]

Wait, thats how they are now, corrupted, and they had original ideas, so they clearly got corrupted? im confused

[celest blaze]

Duty would get WIPED by the monolith

[boreal mica]

2k21 Freedom is all about the money

They lost their principles

[celest blaze]

Freedom, military and clear sky only chads that can fight the monolith

[boreal mica]

They are worse than mercs

[tiny token]

in the OGs they are idealistic, in 2 they are slightly less so due to money and power getting the better of them

[boreal mica]

The Corps is the true based faction

[tiny token]

the gigathad opinion is being allied to as many factions as possible to have maximum amount of hubs you can visit and rest in

[steady leaf]

Yeah and my original point still stands they were idealistic then yes but not above the dirty tactics everyone else used, such as doing hits on duty and outright murdering folks, so how does that again differentiate them from bandits? more organized and well labeld?

Or amount of bloodsuckers effed?

[toxic vector]

what about duty ???

[blissful grotto]

by that logic u could compare any faction to bandits. that doesn't mean theyre friends w bandits

[tiny token]

duty wants to destroy the zone. killing them is justified in freedom's eyes. "outright murdering folks" this is monolith cope, i am sorry your brothers were farmed over and over at the barrier

[celest blaze]

I don't think they even fight in the trilogy

[steady leaf]

No my point wasnt anything to do with freedom being friends with bandits, it was to compare freedom to being bandit lite, lite in this context meaning theyre the same thing basically but trying to pretend otherwise with big goals

[celest blaze]

Duty is hanging out in rostok in the trilogy

[blissful grotto]

get out of here stalker.....

[toxic vector]

they really help me fight monolith in stalker 2

[celest blaze]

Ah I still have stalker 2 uninstalled tbh

I'll reinstall it one day

[blissful grotto]

same i haven't played it since it came out but i eventually will

[celest blaze]

Devs making good progress and I'm excited to play it

Been exploring mods in the meantime

[tiny token]

my car is preventing me from arguing in chat

[blissful grotto]

dang car

[nimble cipher]

kjkallio has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tiny token]

thankfully i have shadowplay turned on 😈

[steady leaf]

What word was that now huh, i didnt even use a swear word, wolf just has it in for me

[blissful grotto]

wolf not havin that today

[celest blaze]

Wolf is your OPP

[steady leaf]

Think i made a good point but its all lost now

[celest blaze]

@steady leaf
Would you build a utopia on top of a pile of corpses? all their idealistic bullshit falls short on that thought immediately, all that is asking for someone else to do the same

Here

The bullshit got you filtered

[steady leaf]

ahh

[boreal mica]

No, it was @nimble cipher

[tiny token]

utopia on a pile of corpses
that's how it usually goes with fanatical idealism yes
falls short
no it does not and no it does not stop them

[celest blaze]

@nimble cipher Give passes man

Fuck

[boreal mica]

Hey

[blissful grotto]

he gave u ur pass

[boreal mica]

Don't be like that

[celest blaze]

My bad

Here lemme get jiggy

[boreal mica]

Fuck

[blissful grotto]

dam he movin

[boreal mica]

I'm not the cat person

In fact, I don't like them at all

[celest blaze]

AYO

[boreal mica]

You gonna ban me for that?

[blissful grotto]

i have a cat but i dont like him hes too smelly

[celest blaze]

I will BAN

[boreal mica]

Come at me bro

[tiny token]

i have a car and he's goated

[steady leaf]

Anyone else excited to jump right from stalker 2 to kingdom come deliverance 2?

[nimble cipher]

🚫 You can't ban immunized @boreal mica.

[blissful grotto]

ive never been excited to jump

[boreal mica]

https://tenor.com/view/abraxas-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-power-rohan-king-gif-14050384

[celest blaze]

😡

[tiny token]

have you guys seen the korshunov video

[boreal mica]

Okay, I forgive you that assassination attempt cause you're ultimate bro

[celest blaze]

Thank you you're my bro

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[celest blaze]

Looks interesting

[celest blaze]

No

[tiny token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNY1dVW-B9g

[boreal mica]

@celest blaze would took him just with his stare

[steady leaf]

I have two addictions in life, soviet style scifi and post apocalytpic and medieval history

[boreal mica]

In case of the medival history pretty the same, I'm glad that I live in a country full of medival castles

[tiny token]

lmao the poster liked my comment. so based

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-the-cat-attack-cishet-big-chungus-gif-22614348

[steady leaf]

Poland? Im in Finland and we have one actual medieval castle in Turku

[boreal mica]

Tervantuloa!

[celest blaze]

Based af I've recently gotten into the dystopian cyberpunk genre I watched bladerunner 2049 and that movie was PEAK

[steady leaf]

I give it a strong 7.5/10! Tervetuloa is the right wording, the way you said it is "the tar is coming"

[celest blaze]

Stalker 2 woulda been better if Ryan gosling was the protagonist

[boreal mica]

Finnish language is the only one I would love to learn, cause in case of the pronunciation it's not that hard for Polish people, cause it's- you say it the same how you read it

[steady leaf]

Hell yeah CP2077 has been amazing and the new bladerunner in IMAX was STUNNING

[boreal mica]

Also, best metal

[tiny token]

they want to make the netflix adaption of stalker. would be perfect if they put gosling as the main character lol

[boreal mica]

Sorry, it was a long time when I ran my duolingo.

[celest blaze]

2077 goes HARD got about 82 hours in it still gotta beat the game

[celest blaze]

I'd do unspeakable things for this

AYO lemme show you guys PEAK stalker give me a sec

[steady leaf]

The fact youre even learning it is a miracle in itself, or a masochistic kink

[tiny token]

"I stalk"

[boreal mica]

Nah, it's pretty easy if you speak Polish

Like I've said- pronunciation it's pretty easy for us.

[steady leaf]

Ah i think i heard about some of that, we have no pronouns or prepositions so you have to memorize each twist of the word, for every word, since the rule changes a lot

[compact yarrow]

Когда патч выйдет сталкер 2?

[tiny token]

i like moonsorrow and fintroll but i basically don't bother with remembering the song and album names lol. the only one i remember is "Voimasta ja Kunniasta"

[boreal mica]

Bro, wrong channel

[steady leaf]

Moonsorrow is one of my all time favorite bands ever!

[compact yarrow]

Patch stalker 2, we are now soon?

[boreal mica]

Yea, also it's sounds pretty dope, you hit your toe on the corner of the drawer? Perkele satana!

[steady leaf]

Hah, we do have some pretty good swear words, they used to hold magic, in norse myth and lore the finns were the witches and magic doers

[tiny token]

i have a finno friend who used to be in a black metal band, goated stuff. he got me into moonsorrow
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Illfarn/3540533111

[compact yarrow]

Why wait, shaders complete and bug's memory its very impossible gaming

[celest blaze]

https://youtu.be/6SyxVOs6Jj0?si=L0QG__j4vviPjJNV PEAK

[steady leaf]

Damn thats so sick, i chose paintings and illustrations as my focus otherwise id have taken up music, most likely metal, love that stuff to death

[celest blaze]

Took me so long to find that

[boreal mica]

Also some of my favorite bands are from Finland, Children of Bodom, Norther, Ensiferum (Petri Lindroos), Insomnium, Turisas, Korpiklaani, Finntroll, Mors Principium Est, Klamydia, Wintersun...

[tiny token]

i know jack about instruments but i love black metal. good vibes tbh. obsessed with summoning right meow

[steady leaf]

Children of Bodom is goated, especially knowing what a genious the lead vocalist was, he wrote most of his songs at age of 16 and drank himself to death, liver failure

Can only imagine what kind of hell he went thru to produce such amazing art and suffering in same stroke

[celest blaze]

Another PEAK

Who? Sorry just gosling posting

[steady leaf]

Children of bodom is also based and referencing the bodom lake murders that are the finland´s most fascinating mystery still

[boreal mica]

Ye, in case of music your country is pretty dope. I regret when I was in Denmark I had opportunity to visit Finland, but I got really sick.

Also in case of history, Simo

[steady leaf]

Hey I visited Denmark on an artist meetup for a week, i so wanted to move there, it was kinda like finland but everyone more open and nice, and beer was twice as cheap!

Onko ongelmaa häh

[boreal mica]

Damn man, Finland is so cool (not only in case of climate).

[steady leaf]

This is the place i want to grow old and die in, maybe somewhere nice up north with twisting pines

[boreal mica]

Weren't The Dudesons finnish?

[steady leaf]

Yeah they were so big back in the 2000s

[boreal mica]

Damn.

[steady leaf]

Man i miss those times, people say a ton about the 80s but being a 90s kid, the 90s and 2000s were pretty dope too

[boreal mica]

Also my favorite song for doing drunken shit is Pilke Silmakulmassa

[steady leaf]

wow i gotta google that, not really finnish of me

Oh this karaoke piece of shit

Hahahh, i think i heard my coworker scream this from top of his lungs once

They do sound drunk when they sing though so

[steady leaf]

That summarizes pretty well the mandatory military service here hahahh

I wanted to be a sniper but they made me into a non-com officer and was stuck there for half a year more than i wanted :L

[compact yarrow]

Guys, i have permission talking it's chat, but i Russian? Or only American

[topaz wraith]

||i have to go to red forest, anyone can give me a vague estimate on how long till the end mission. I ask mainly because i saw people complaining its “short”||

[steady leaf]

I dont discriminate, feel free

[boreal mica]

||it depends||

[boreal mica]

Use English, be civil, don't mention politics and prob you should be fine

[topaz wraith]

Sounds good. Lots to do still.

[boreal mica]

Got proper rank by posting or use #📸┃screenshots_and_videos

[steady leaf]

I grew up in a farm that my dad owns, we had a ton of russian and ukranain workers there both, well paid and supplied, i dont really discriminate between the two, theyre good people and most victims of terrible regimes

[boreal mica]

Seriously, it depends what playstyle you choose, you can keep it short by chasing the story or you can have lot of playtime.

[steady leaf]

Well, no russian workers there anymore for obvious reasons

[still parrot]

Anyone on pc freeze for like 5 seconds when they click options

[boreal mica]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos is about stalker

In the end it's still stalker discord

[topaz wraith]

Well i was asking how many more main quest objectives are there left before the end. Like my objective is to

||after ward attack to malachite go to red forest||

[boreal mica]

Man, it depends which path did you choose

[steady leaf]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106965/ but you have Free Willy!

[boreal mica]

but it would be the best to post things like that in #☢┃stalker-general

[topaz wraith]

Oh ok thanks

[steady leaf]

But.. its free...

[boreal mica]

Nope, when you cross the certain rank you'll be able to post images/vids

[steady leaf]

IDI KO MNE

Wizards of the Zone?

Yea was a reference to wizards of the coast

Roblox should be banned globally

[boreal mica]

I love the voice of the Monolith

[steady leaf]

All it is a scam to get all the money from kids thru their parents debit cards

[boreal mica]

In cutscenes it sounds dope

[steady leaf]

Theres literal roblox mafias out there its unreal

Thats most likely Roblox itself too

Which is why its a scam and should be banned, its targeted to children and all it is is a black market of assets and games

13+ are children too, but have you ever lied when a thing asks for your age?

[boreal mica]

If something is 13+ doesn't mean that some younger audience won't get access to it

[steady leaf]

Yeah when its 18+ more children will TRY to access it

Ikr i would never want to cater to that audience in any manner

Cant imagine what kind of brain damage you need to go teach middle school, but im glad theyre there

[boreal mica]

Unfortunately, but I was 14 yo when I played stalker for the first time

[steady leaf]

My first stalker was a borrowed copy of SoC in CD from a friend, back in 2007, it blew my world over

I was already a huge fan of anything post apocalyptical and just going out and finding old and rotted stuff

[boreal mica]

Damn, playstation discounts are rare

On PC in my country for 9 dollars you can get the whole series

[steady leaf]

And then this series came out and suddenly i felt i was at home, its been my go to escape route from anything bad ever since

Playing these its almost like nothing else exists outside

Not in a million years, one thing i really hate about Rockstar´s way of mission design is you have to follow every step of the mission guidelines to a letter, one step outside guidelines and GAME OVER

[boreal mica]

My first time with SoC was like I don't remember my PC specifics, but I remember that I went from 256mb RAM to 512 with my pocket money and I was waiting really long for the game to load up. Then it was pretty nice experience- something different from things I've played that time. It was grey, it was sad, it was heavy. Later, when I got better PC I remember how scared I was in X18, how excited I was when I've reached the Army Warehouses etc. etc.
I would give so much to have that experience again. It's pretty nostalgic if I think about my first experience with the series.

[steady leaf]

Really punishes any creative thinking, like this one mission where youre dug inside some house and under fire and the mission obj says you just gotta hold tight there, but you have free way of flanking them right outside that door there and taking care of the problem, but as soon as you enter outside GAME OVER

It is and even in the prologue where you drive the wagon, take the wrong road at any point not following the objective and game over '

Its free roam country but only when the game allows you to, so its not really so

So many missions had huge holes in them like the crew had an idea and i came up with a better one in my head that wouldve worked better on the paper but the game doesnt let you, just follow the script and no one gets hurt

No its not but when you see a clear opening for some creativity to a problem it most likely will just outright punish you

And many games with lesser budget and scopes have made these things possible, like how in BG3 or their previous games every single mission or quest had several ways of completing them, some even could be solved with clever out the box thinking

[boreal mica]

About the story... Have you ever played the stalker series?

[steady leaf]

But in Rockstar games you only have the one railroad you always have to follow to a marker or its game over, not even kidding

[boreal mica]

Or Mass Effect?

Or... bioshock?

Or... Days Gone?

Or... Horizon?

[steady leaf]

Disco Elysium, Planescape Torment?

[boreal mica]

Or Destiny?

Or Cyberpunk?

Or... Metro?

[steady leaf]

Rockstar games has a very surface level writing that is to cater for normal players that dont usually play many games, the ones that play Madden 25 or NHL 25

[boreal mica]

Or... Metal Gear Solid?

Spec Ops The Line?

Like the story might be good, but not the best

Bro

[steady leaf]

Who cares about anyting call of duty since MW1?

[boreal mica]

CoD in case of the story can't be compared to the Spec Ops The Line

[steady leaf]

Thats when it peaked, mw2 was ok in multiplayer on xbox

[boreal mica]

Like it's basically based on two great things, the book and the movie

Aaaaah

Sorry

I thought that you say that those are better

But original MW series also is a good one

[steady leaf]

second one jumped the shark first one was amazing

[boreal mica]

It's like: my boyfriend didn't cried at titanic. Meanwhile boyfriend watching the moment of Ghost's death

[steady leaf]

But Bad Company 2 beats any of the Cods of the era no contest, which would be MW 2 i think

[boreal mica]

Omg

Bad Company 2 mentioned

I've replayed that story so many times

[steady leaf]

Its the most goated of multiplayer games ever, no kidding, nothing comes close to the amount of fun and immersion i had in that game

[boreal mica]

When I finish (again) stalker series, BC2 is the first thing I play again

[boreal mica]

Arround 700h in BC2 multiplayer

[steady leaf]

Nice! I feel bad that these kinds of days are over

[boreal mica]

Enemy hiding behind the wall in the building? Few C4 or Carl Gustav

And the whole building is gone

[steady leaf]

I enjoyed the little radar you had for detecting enemies as a certain class and using the automatic shotguns, to hunt them down

[boreal mica]

Recon, sniper rifle + radar "ball"

[steady leaf]

Oh yeah that was the thing!

[boreal mica]

Loved atacama desert

[steady leaf]

Yeah one of my favs, i really liked the few ported over maps from battlefield 2

[boreal mica]

It was a good game, shame my clan moved to BF3 later.

Also Vietnam was fun

[steady leaf]

Man i used to play battlefield 2 in singleplayer just flying the helicopter and learning all its tricks and getting better at flying, for hours, but got so rare opportunities to put it to good use, someone was always faster than me at camping for choppers

BF3 had easier chopper access and better controls though so that was a fun game too

[hardy bear]

Thank goodness for enemies wearing headlamps, helping me see exactly where to shoot them in the night

Goodness, finding a freedom suit in a random stash wasn’t expected

Have literally gone through the whole game without a single need to spend anything outside of repairs or upgrades. Not one item bought, exploration covers you

[inner mural]

hey has anyone played IWP with COTZ mod? i need help finding the svrog detector.

[celest blaze]

controversial take but anomalies biggest W is its optimization

[steady leaf]

Its so scary when you see them at night for a while and then they turn off

I play without compass or detection meters ofc

[celest blaze]

👑

ngl ive been playing cotz with ui turned off its way more intense

[inner mural]

i hear gun shots its the red forest, then i see a cat running away from two rats... xD

OH i just heard stomping then some void thing hit me think its a burer... it scared the hell out of me... all this for some documents that sicentists want x.x

i killed it and completed a quest! nice, the cat then showed up with the two rats and died becuase it got hit once by it :/ rip cat you will be missed...

[feral agate]

What's cotz?

[celest blaze]

that is a wild turn of events haha

[celest blaze]

call of the zone the PEAK freeplay mod made by the late DoctorX ( RIP )

[inner mural]

someone ported it over to IWP and its pretty good 😄

[celest blaze]

im deff a standalone enjoyer BUT id love if it was ported to anomaly engine

im gonna try old world redux for anomaly

[native ibex]

I don't appreciate taking a little damage and being out for thousands of coupons

[warped gull]

morning stalkers

[queen ice]

[vestal shale]

has wierd water been confirmed to be fixed?

[wise timber]

when is the sidorovich foreplay mod coming out

[drowsy violet]

I do wish there was a QOL mod that basically gives you bonuses if you keep yourself well fed.

[sweet belfry]

fat like sidovrich

sidorororvich

[drowsy violet]

Wouldn't say fat. Well Fed. Like you had a good meal.

[sweet belfry]

this guys a chunker

[upbeat kite]

I could see that, more likely as feature where well feed give you extra ~2kg carrying capacity. (Small buff), otherwise calories mechanism such as Scum had it’s too complex for my taste.

[drowsy violet]

I was thinking more of increased stamina and health regen. Something that would rather help in and out of combat. Not saying 2kg isn't bad.

[upbeat kite]

Combat wise, i really appreciate they kept how it’s. Because it’s relatively connected to the player skills, and mindset.

[drowsy violet]

Yeah STALKER is a game that is challenging. Gun fights feel more realistic because you can get dropped in a few shots.

[upbeat kite]

I would delve into immersion. For instance on highest difficulty introduce flashlight depending on batteries

The more you’re injured the slower bandage animation is.

[drowsy violet]

GAMMA tried for realism and immersion and it just got to complicated for my tastes.

I mean, I want to play STALKER. Not Tarkov with a thin paint of STALKER over it.

[upbeat kite]

Never played gamma but seen some vids. You’re right it’s to complex.

However S2 could be spiced up a grain by devs xD

[spring yacht]

i think anomaly did a pretty good compromise

has there ever been a count of how many stalkers there are in the zone at a given time?

[drowsy violet]

Reason why I like it. Real and immersive enough but not to overly complicated. Though apparently Anomaly is bad forsome reason?

[upbeat kite]

Check zoneslug on yt.

[spring yacht]

i unno, i ignore online communities for the most part.

[upbeat kite]

I’m kind of odd, and refuse play modded games xD

[slender stratus]

I’m sure you can figure it out, I believe in you

[drowsy violet]

I know S2's modding scene just started but there is a lot of interesting mods for it. There is a mod that switches the names of weapons to realistic ones.

[celest blaze]

anomaly is fine its just the fans

most anomaly and mod players shit on the trilogy while never having played them ( looking at you gamma folk)

[drowsy violet]

Oh I played the Trilogy first before I went into modded.

[upbeat kite]

I still refuse. I just love og titles, even with their own flaws.

[celest blaze]

thats totally fine imo

most people hate the mods due to the fans who shit all over the real games and claim gamma is true stalker for example

its mostly a hate by association issue

hell im about to play old world redux on anomaly tbh

[drowsy violet]

GAMMA isn't the true stalker experiance. It's basically Tarkov with a coat of paint of Stalker on it.

[celest blaze]

based you know the truth

[celest blaze]

based as hell

tbh call of the zone is where i like to stop when it comes to mods but im trying out all the other mods while i wait for stalker 2 to be where id like it to be before reinstalling

[upbeat kite]

One of the work colleagues, Skyrim lover in the degree where 90% of his time play spend on modding. I cannot justify this amount of time, and his counter is over 1000h xD

[drowsy violet]

Opening that third eye. I played the stalker series on normal and have been in plenty of situations where I almost used up all of my healing items.

I remember that one part with the military guarding that checkpoint vividly. There had to be at least 10+ enemes on that checkpoint.

[celest blaze]

it's crazy how far you can push skyrim lol

[celest blaze]

that place will eat your healing stuff up so fast

[upbeat kite]

Holly Kat!

[drowsy violet]

Jesus H Christ, this is like Goku's power level reading over 9000!

[celest blaze]

[upbeat kite]

Btw, 0:33 timeline in following vid shows interesting observations based on subreddit users for Stalker2 map:

youtu.be/BM6pydqlUZE?si=i9eDgAuvaE74GH3M

[celest blaze]

granted id never make a list for myself this big but

[drowsy violet]

I can relate, considering I had the idea to just deal with them now instead of having to sneak by all the time.

[upbeat kite]

I wish they somehow expand Faust in DLC, it’s very intriguing character for me, from all of them.

[celest blaze]

fr

i do hope the obokan is a dlc weapon

i NEED hyperburst

i beat the trilogy with the obo

[upbeat kite]

Now i remember what i wanna say related to that xD option to sit without guitar and eat! xD

[celest blaze]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/AC-96/2 this gun will solo the entire trilogy on master i am disappointed i cant do max difficulty stalker 2 with it

i beat cotz on master with obo aswell lol

[upbeat kite]

I really like how veteran looks from pre purchase bonus.

[smoky totem]

The torrent question In gsc answers is so funny lol like what was bro thinking bro whaaat

[smoky totem]

You’re right, imho the hardest part about stalker 2 on master is how often you have to restart the game to get it to run somewhat smoothly again lol

[subtle oxide]

hi all, is the game good on console?

[drowsy violet]

Jesus, 17 hours and I just got out of the lower zone.

[warped gull]

lower or lesser?

[finite dragon]

** MY JOURNAL, DAY 1 **

*** Day 47 in the Zone:
Dear diary, something weird is happening. All the bloodsuckers have started wearing tiny bowties and monocles. I saw one sipping tea with a Controller yesterday - pinky up and everything! They were discussing quantum physics, I think? Hard to tell when one's trying to eat your brain telepathically.
The Duty guys have converted their base into a modern art gallery. There's just a single burnt bolt in the middle of an empty room. They keep calling it 'The Essence of Radiation' and stroking their chins thoughtfully.
Freedom's entire base smells like lavender now. They swear it's not weed - apparently, a Burner anomaly started spitting out essential oils. The hippie levels are off the charts.
Sidorovich has started accepting interpretive dance as payment for supplies. My moonwalk got me three bandages and a can of tourist's delight. My Fortnite dance attempts got me shot at, but that's fair.
The zombies have started a book club. They only read one page per month, but their discussions about comma placement are surprisingly passionate.
Oh, and I found a mysterious artifact that turns everything into cheese. EVERYTHING. My gun now shoots moldy cheddar. Send help.

Confused Stalker
P.S. A pseudodog just asked me for my Wi-Fi password. I don't know what's real anymore." ***

[sly matrix]

I'll have what he's having

[hardy oar]

what thee...

[drowsy violet]

Only took 18 hours but I am now at the Slag Heap.

[upbeat kite]

Not bad, imagine full run on all upcoming expansions xD

[upbeat kite]

You don’t need to struggle in Netherlands to reach that state of c-consciousness

[drowsy violet]

It got hairy at certain parts. I had to deal with a few guys at an outpost and they didn't make it easy. Also had a close encounter with a bloodsucker.

[vernal topaz]

did the skip feature get removed ?

[drowsy violet]

For what like skip dialouge?

Also I am wondering when I will start seeing 7.62x54r ammo as I got the SVDM-2.

[vernal topaz]

cutscene + dialog

[drowsy violet]

idk

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[raw acorn]

ok stalker 2 literally cannot compile shaders, i open the game it freezes somewhere close it reopen and use the pop up to skip it

[worn oar]

Did you try clearing shader cache?

[raw acorn]

the directx one?

[upbeat kite]

Fun fact steam version got that issue, my gog copy don't. Same machine, same game.

[foggy pebble]

is there any way to upgrade your edition without buying full price on steam? or not yet?

[upbeat kite]

Not yet.

[foggy pebble]

gotcha, thanks mate!

[upbeat kite]

You can be same odd as me, and purchase two copies of the game xD

[foggy pebble]

nah, i think im good waiting for a way to upgrade. its not a priority

[worn oar]

All of it

[worn oar]

It should be coming soon, probably.

[toxic vector]

what is so special about it?

2 round burst is kinda meh imo

i rather get a rifle with high rate of fire

or an 7.62x39 gun like this https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/0/03/DSC8726.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200714011814

[raw acorn]

lemme try

[prisma goblet]

hey

[hardy bear]

What a wonderful kind of day

[hardy bear]

It’s the absolute strangest feeling exploring the open world and coming across a place from the games. It’s such a powerful sense of Deja vu that just smacks you in the face

[outer laurel]

Waking up everyday with a hope of a roadmap ping.....

[muted valve]

A fools hope

[outer laurel]

Roadmap is real as the wish maker....oh wait...it's a illusion

[noble surge]

I was trying to cheese a certain pseudogiant and didn't know he could get out of the fenced-in space he started the fight in

[meager kindle]

do we have it in game

[proper dew]

no

[thick rapids]

Hi

[tardy wadi]

Is it just me or does the Mark 1 EMR gunfire sound weird/wrong in full auto?

[granite mortar]

Is it just me or does the Duty loudspeaker say "gingerous mutants" in Clear Sky?

[rocky kiln]

Is the good ol A Life here yet?

[molten crow]

bit better but still messy

[granite mortar]

still nowhere near SoC A-Life

[subtle nebula]

idk if my pc can run Stalker 2, can i send the specs here and someone check out if i can run it or not?

[granite mortar]

#pc-specs

[subtle nebula]

thanks kot emperor

[muted valve]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
where?

[meager kindle]

whats ur specs?

[subtle nebula]

I pasted them in the #pc-specs I think

[meager kindle]

i dont think you can run it

[subtle nebula]

Ye Ik sadly

[meager kindle]

game is badly optimised so you might want to hold onto it for idk few years

[subtle nebula]

Do you think it's gonna run after a couple of years?

[meager kindle]

Depends if they manage to fix stuff

[subtle nebula]

Im arleady thinking about refunding, if there is a hope I might keep it for a few years before acctualy refunding

[meager kindle]

you can only refund in first 2 weeks after you cant its steam policy

[subtle nebula]

Oh, I already had it for 4 days

[meager kindle]

so you can either refund it and buy later or keep it its your call also you cant refund if you played more than 2 hours

[rocky kiln]

Damn

[meager kindle]

i doubt they manage to get it to work the CPU would kill it self

[subtle nebula]

I got 10 minutes so I don't think that's a problem, but Il just refund and buy another time I guess

[meager kindle]

i hope so <3

[crystal merlin]

Will the next patches lower the recommend specs?

[oak wyvern]

I forgot there's a slowdown timer in this server lol

I love how I can't say bad words in a server for a game where bandits scream at you "shoot that guy in the head" in the most disrespectful Ukrainian way of saying it like mods ion think any kids gonna be playing this game lol.

[raw acorn]

cheeki breeki i v damke

[granite mortar]

the game doesnt even run at intended framerates on these specs, theres no way anything is getting lowered

[oak wyvern]

My lawyer advised me not to make the joke I was about to make

Also where do we jump from strong language to murder????????

[granite mortar]

wherever we flrmping want

[oak wyvern]

OHHHH HE CAN SAY IT

[granite mortar]

who?

[oak wyvern]

Bro whyd you do me like that 😢

I thought we was frens 😢

Nalaratos writing the whole ass Bible lol

[granite mortar]

send me 5 silly cats and we might be

[oak wyvern]

Ok I want to uses strong language because it feels more natural to me and censoring myself physically hurts me

[empty gorge]

where a life

[granite mortar]

in AMK mod for Shadow of Chernobyl

[oak wyvern]

Sadly I have no cats, lost them last year when I was dealing with homelessness

[granite mortar]

[oak wyvern]

I miss them so much

[muted valve]

that's just a lack of manners tho

[oak wyvern]

What stalker has manners?

[empty gorge]

[granite mortar]

Nimble
Hes such a great guy

[oak wyvern]

Aside from nimble

[granite mortar]

Vano
Hes such a great guy

[celest blaze]

^

[muted valve]

stalkers are fictional people

[oak wyvern]

Actually stalkers are real

[granite mortar]

no

[muted valve]

not the stalkers we mean when referring to them in the context of this server

[oak wyvern]

I'm being fr

Seriously look up chernobyl stalkers

[muted valve]

no, you're confusing real life people walking around the former chornobyl power plant (which hardly happens now due to the war) with fictional people from a game, but either way it doesn't matter, because any verbal customs they might or might not have don't excuse a lack of manners

[oak wyvern]

Cuss words are just that, words, you only give them more power the more you fear them

Lets just agree to disagree I really don't want to have a discord banter rn

[muted valve]

they're rude and a lack of manners, all social norms are essentially made up, just because you don't adhere to those norms doesn't mean they aren't generally accepted norms, because of this we apparently need a bot to enforce it, since adherence to very basic and universal social norms seem impossible for some

[daring storm]

Is it ethics class in here today?

[oak wyvern]

I've never been able to understand social norms unfortunately, it's bite me in the a a lot, but unfortunately I can't change how my brain structure is so I'm just left to struggle no matter what all because I genuinely can't understand social norms 🥲

[daring storm]

Just don't be an asshole and you'll be good.

[muted valve]

what, no this is snork social studies, ethics class is next door, it's given by Scar

[oak wyvern]

I have morals and I know right from wrong it's just the Profesionalism and manners I can't understand, trust me I have tried.

[muted valve]

"don't curse" is a remarkebly simple social norm as long as you can distinguish curse words from none curse words

[oak wyvern]

A lot of times I find myself out of a Job all because I accidentally cussed at the wrong time, or said something that was misunderstood 🥲

[oak wyvern]

I wish it was that simple for me, it's the fact that people get so offended by them that I don't get

[muted valve]

honestly, i've been there, ran my mouth too much, got called to the office i was bad mouthing the company, just stopped spewing whatever was on my mind before running it through in my head once and it was solved, just remove the curse words before saying it

[oak wyvern]

It's an automatic impulse, I can't control it otherwise it puts a stain on me, I really wish I was a different person, I hate who I am.

[zealous pumice]

i hope theres an update next week, ive been waiting to play since christmas

[muted valve]

i ain't even gonna respond to that beyond find a therapist, you're not supposed to hate yourself

[oak wyvern]

Thank my dad

[muted valve]

nah, no use blaming all your problems on other people, they ain't gonna take responsibility and fix it anyway

[oak wyvern]

Funniest part is I can't, I live in america and don't have health insurance 🙃

[oak wyvern]

Eh, it helps kinda

So I'm not blaming myself for stuff that wasn't my fault

Anyways on a lighter note anyone got tips for duga?

[zealous pumice]

Yeah go to the general channel in the possible spoilers section and ask there 🙀

[oak wyvern]

don't need to be rude

Was just trying to lighten the tone

[zealous pumice]

Sorry man being straight and blunt is an automatic impulse and it puts a stain on me if I don't do it

[oak wyvern]

Rage baiter

[zealous pumice]

Just an honest dude trying to help

[oak wyvern]

Prepare to be completely ignored

[coral locust]

Lol after 25 hours ive just found out how can u upgrade weapons XD

[zealous pumice]

Oh, I'm counting on it

[oak wyvern]

No matter what I do or say or how hard I try to explain my issues people will allways mock me 🙄

[oak wyvern]

Lol, I found it out early game but completely forgot it 😆

[zealous pumice]

Prepare to be completely ignored

[daring storm]

See your issue right there is that you try to tackle issues while hard.

That can lead to serious injury for others, and for yourself.

[oak wyvern]

Ok that got a chuckle

[daring storm]

It can also lead to an unwanted perererrgency

[spiral stump]

What's going on in here

[zealous pumice]

Just boys being boys you know

[daring storm]

Am I pregernent?

[oak wyvern]

Thanks for the laugh I really really needed it. You have no idea how much it actually helped.

[spiral stump]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524246444560089099/1295404208266412043/stalker_cigs.gif

Go to #💬┃en_offtop

[dim topaz]

[zealous pumice]

Am I Pregant ?

[oak wyvern]

See jokes be better then mocking

[daring storm]

You're about to be if you keep looking at me like that.

[dim topaz]

Sorry you've become inprengarted

[spiral stump]

Saying once again

Go to #💬┃en_offtop

And better stop with these jokes or whatever it is

[daring storm]

Alright guys let's go to #💬┃en_offtop the fun police are here.

[oak wyvern]

SHUN THE NON BELIEVER

[oak wyvern]

SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN

[zealous pumice]

SCRAM

[oak wyvern]

GET OUT OF HERE STALKER

[celest blaze]

What interesting folks

https://tenor.com/view/whiskers-mmm-hmm-suspicious-sus-gif-11609747178733891907

[spiral stump]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-clear-sky-clear-sky-monolith-monolith-exo-gif-13594799489985857333

[carmine swallow]

Whats the lyrics for brush your hair im not allowed to post the ones I write here
(They're not on google)

[coarse sparrow]

so, what do we know about "the next" patch?

[zinc apex]

🫃

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[blazing nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-19500813

[tiny token]

They are going to substitute the entirety of stalker 2 for the original SoC

[blazing nimbus]

...ffs embed fail WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[granite mortar]

cuz no embed perms

[coarse sparrow]

I like how no spoiler chat is turning into offtop with cat gifs and brain rot messages (this included)

[midnight cipher]

do you think GSC will release an optimization patch any time soon

[upbeat kite]

How dare you blend cats into this. 🐈

[midnight cipher]

its really not acceptable that a 3060 ti cant handle it on medium-low settings

[celest blaze]

@granite mortar I got cotz set up on iwp and man it feels like a new era

[coarse sparrow]

depends on what you "find acceptable" really

[midnight cipher]

a framerate that doesnt cause atrocious input lag

i have a 1500 dollar rig and I still get a good 50-70ms input lag

[granite mortar]

I kinda hate IWP ngl

[coarse sparrow]

dunno how 3060ti is a 1500 dolla rig, but okay

[midnight cipher]

expensive mobo

[celest blaze]

i honestly prefer the standalone cotz

but i like the smoothness of iwp

i have to vsync this engine lol

[upbeat kite]

Why then 8gb gpu?

[celest blaze]

probably slowly upgrading maybe

[granite mortar]

cant you get that at around 600-700 dollars?

[coarse sparrow]

no, like 400 dolla (new) if not less atm (used)

[granite mortar]

damn
here you would pay 1000 dollars
while making 1500 dollars a month

[upbeat kite]

For 16 TFLOPS it’s actually acceptable performance on 3060ti

Ofc depending what res as well

[granite mortar]

hmm
maybe their adaptation of CryRay engine could be compatible withh vanilla CoC

[gritty orchid]

Stalker 2 on cry engine when

[celest blaze]

That would be amazing honestly

[granite mortar]

yeah
altho I would still like it more on IX-Ray or OXR

[celest blaze]

I prefer pure cotz the way it is all it needs is a 64 bit engine I wouldn't change anything else I prefer old trilogy graphics and artsyle more then modern mods and stalker 2 tbh

There's something about the trilogy era graphics it's atmosphere is unmatched

[granite mortar]

yeah

[midnight cipher]

if only... if only

[celest blaze]

🫵

1 W for iwp is they got pip scopes which is kinda neat

[jade widget]

Stalker 2 on Dunia

[celest blaze]

controversial but stalker 2 on creation engine

[jade widget]

lol! I almost said that instead of Dunia

[celest blaze]

[jade widget]

I did my first playthrough with controller only. Mostly out of wanting to sit on my couch and be lazy.
About half way through playthrough 2 on M&K. Could never go back to controller on this game now

It makes getting aim punched by a boomstick much more tolerable

[granite mortar]

eh
I preffer good old PNG scopes
I only played with pip scopes in Goldsphere OGSR and it was pretty hard to aim for me

[upbeat kite]

Especially latest where carry Starshit

[celest blaze]

im more used to PNG tbh

[jade widget]

I’m not familiar with that terminology for scopes

The image file type PNG?

[upbeat kite]

Portable Network Graphics file

[jade widget]

Thanks for confirming

[celest blaze]

This would be a PNG where the entire screen zooms in but PiP only what's inside the scope does

[oak wyvern]

No the real life people who illegally explore the cez

S.t.a.l.k.e.r. (to my knowledge) is based off a novel I forgot the name of, the movie by the same name just non acronymed and the real life people.

[celest blaze]

roadside picnic

[mellow locust]

I really like playing iwp at the moment