⭐┃nospoilers_general

[gaunt burrow]

i assume mercs who have randomly generated names say that

maybe i'm misremembering something but i legit don't recall other NPCs except waste processing station mercs saying R word

[worn oar]

ah

Okay

[solid dome]

DEBIL!

What do I win??!?!?!?!!?

[storm wren]

Wormmm foooooood

[finite dragon]

Sidorovich has one line when you don’t sell him anything, but it’s rare

[cyan canopy]

Weed Drip

[finite dragon]

I think if you open the trading screen then close it multiple times he says it

[worn oar]

Dog food is more valuable than this

[finite dragon]

I’ll send the .ogg once I’m home

[worn oar]

Also I just woke up from a weird nap with both hands not working lol

[solid dome]

You masterbaiter!

[indigo marsh]

If you are talking about monos then it's Strelok

[worn oar]

Nope, I'm serious. Apparently I slept on my hands and blood flow was blocked. It's not the first time it happened, so I simply stood up and that's it

[solid dome]

Yeah I know the feeling

I often sleep on my face too

You know why we dont sleep on our backs?

Simply cause we start having nightmares

So we turn around not to see sheit

Y'feelz?

[worn oar]

Nah lmao

My brain is not braining

[indigo marsh]

Whenever I used to sit criss cross it happened to my legs

[solid dome]

My mouth isn't mouthing

[worn oar]

[finite dragon]

Do you have something to freedom? 😈

[finite dragon]

Wheres my vodka

[granite mortar]

Errmm
The west has already fallen when Misery released

It just keeps falling again and again every few years

[versed crypt]

Finished. The second half of District 9 was pretty mid

[granite mortar]

Try town 32 instead
Its peak

[versed crypt]

Just getting images of an IRL Town 32

[mild marsh]

good days stalkers

I have one question for yall

can anyone give me breakdown of what is difference between editions LOL, my google fu gives me contradictory informations LOL

[finite dragon]

I dont understand

[versed crypt]

The digital or physical?

[granite mortar]

Ultimate gets the DLCs for free later on
Rest have less goodies
The difference is more notable with physical editions

[mild marsh]

digital

[hazy helm]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643320/STALKER_2_Heart_of_Chornobyl/
its on the page

Steam

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Chornobyl Exclusion Zone has changed dramatically after the second massive explosion in year 2006. Violent mutants, deadly anomalies, warring factions have made the Zone a very tough place to survive. Nevertheless, artifacts of unbelievable value attracted many people called S.T.A.L.K.E.R.s, who entered the Zone for their own risk striving to ma...

Price

$59.99

Release Date

Nov 20, 2024

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[versed crypt]

Hhhhhhmmmmm not entirely sure. They had a list of all the editions and what's included on their website though

[real kayak]

are collector edition out of stock?

[finite dragon]

I dont know

[polar orchid]

stalker and tarkov both gonna be at the tokyo game show, be funny if they were right beside eachother

[versed crypt]

Ohlordy

[finite dragon]

Colectors version is that in middle or the most expensive one?

[mild marsh]

why cant we post pictures here

[real kayak]

the most expensive

[hazy helm]

so idiots dont spam the chat with useless stuff

[hardy turtle]

🥑

[finite dragon]

Oh ok idk i bought it half a year ago

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

[peak ridge]

I had a heart attack reading the announcement, thinking from the notification that they released a demo on steam.

[versed crypt]

I think the most expensive was the ultimate deluxe mega luxury definitive hoarding collectors edition

[finite dragon]

Freedom

[real kayak]

same

[hazy helm]

this isnt happening

dont worry

[finite dragon]

That "blue" one?

[mild marsh]

ULTIMATE EDITION INCLUDES:
**Season Pass With Access to All Future DLCs,** - this seems like most interesting thing. So will it be like literally every DLC that will ever be released in lifetime of this game ? Or what

Including 2 Story Expansions
Additional Story-Based Side Quest
Single Player: 1 Costume Skin & 3 Weapon Skins
Multiplayer: 3 Costume Skins & 7 Weapon Skins for Multiplayer
Digital Artbook
Digital Soundtrack

[finite dragon]

With all benefits?

[polar orchid]

if anyone gets to play the demo, just beeline for the chrnobyl reactor

[finite dragon]

Where extra mission?

[delicate vector]

theres a typo

[versed crypt]

IDK it was a while since I checked. The one with many things, look for that!

[delicate vector]

heart of chornobyl it says in the announcement instead of chernobyl

[real kayak]

if i'm not wrong there is deluxe and ultima, deluxe is the one with blue theme while ultimate is the one with nuke simbol

[mild marsh]

I know as much as you bud xD, I just saw this online

[loud gate]

please say u troll lol

[hazy helm]

yknow this info is in the steam page and the fucking game page

[hardy turtle]

ALife trailer at tokyo games show?

[real kayak]

and the physical version give you a lot of beatiful things the most expensive

[delicate vector]

what are you talking about

[cyan canopy]

Give us A-Life trailer!

[hazy helm]

https://www.stalker2.com/en

[finite dragon]

I bought ultimate edition

[versed crypt]

Don't fall for the funny

[loud gate]

You can't make an A-Life Trailer

[nimble cipher]

qpgu has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite dragon]

Then i have ultimate one

[loud gate]

Because then people will scream it is "scripted" and other shit.

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[cyan canopy]

Woah

[granite mortar]

Why would you even pay for it when you can download GAMMA 🤩 for free smh smh

[finite dragon]

Gamma? Eww

[polar orchid]

what about a videographic overview of A-Life?

[granite mortar]

Grok yourself

[finite dragon]

Anomaly better

[cyan canopy]

Gamma ueeek!

[versed crypt]

Ah yes if only I could download it through Grok's server smh

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[cyan canopy]

Spatial Anomaly right?

[granite mortar]

Low bar
Extremely low bar

[hazy helm]

Rating shit is the worst passtime of the STOC

[cyan canopy]

Right?

[mild marsh]

it literally say Heart of Chornobyl in the picture on Steam

[finite dragon]

Bruh im cooked

[hardy turtle]

yeah, talking about dunno, stalkers walking around, hunting for artifacts and stuff

[loud gate]

Presentation of A-Life is, of course, possible and can be done, but it must be done right. You can't just have "A-Life" trailer because then you will have people who will moan about it "being scripted"

[granite mortar]

Spatial Anomaly story of Mercenary Beat my beloved

[versed crypt]

Wait! I'm level 31?😭

[hardy turtle]

going for a beer afterwards

[granite mortar]

[versed crypt]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M TERMINALLY ONLINE

[finite dragon]

Wut

[hazy helm]

Return to the Zone

[mild marsh]

Pre-Purchase S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
59,99€
Add to Cart

[polar orchid]

i would even settle for an article

[hazy helm]

ok?

luke

[loud gate]

And we already had snipptets in articles
But you can't sell a main feature with just articles

[granite mortar]

Return to the Zone?
The famous mod where you Return to the Zone as Gigachad who needs Vodka to live and laughs at his victims?

[finite dragon]

Is that monolith?

[mild marsh]

wasnt it Chernobyl in original Stalker series

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/ratha-gif-26742750

[cyan canopy]

Beard

[solemn perch]

Is this an OK place to ask a playthroughs question about cop?

[hazy helm]

its beard

[mild marsh]

so why change now

[hazy helm]

yes

[finite dragon]

>

[hazy helm]

Chornobyl is the Ukrainian pronounciation

[polar orchid]

the game was already sold when they said the words "stalker 2"

[finite dragon]

Ok

[mild marsh]

TIL did not know that

[still ridge]

Tokyo game show

[solemn perch]

If I give carden the basic work tools... He has them forever right?... Becouse for some reason rn he can't do basic upgrades

[still ridge]

Probably new trailer

[cyan canopy]

You will be liquified

[still ridge]

He needs vodka

[solemn perch]

I gave him vodka

[finite dragon]

First come across the border

[granite mortar]

Jekan after making the main character say "a bitсhworthy death for a bitсh, shit head!" After every kill

[still ridge]

are you playing vanilla

[hazy helm]

yes, check if you have enuff money
if you give him too much vodka hell fall assleep

[solemn perch]

It's like basic tools despawned from him

[still ridge]

Or a mod

[solemn perch]

I'm playing vanilla... Let me guess.. The game bugged

[loud gate]

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/черный-gif-8284575235000460429

[solemn perch]

Basic tools given.... Vodka given... Money is avaliable....

[finite dragon]

Did you know guys you can drive BTRs in soc?

[hazy helm]

how much vodka did you give him

[solemn perch]

I have the :he needs basic tools message poping

[granite mortar]

Yes

[solemn perch]

Lemme just load rlquick

[still ridge]

Try reloading a save?

[finite dragon]

[solemn perch]

Yes

[still ridge]

I don’t think that’s ever happened to me.

weird

[vale quartz]

when will gsc add achievement for stalker games on steam?

[granite mortar]

Never

[hazy helm]

inb4 the problem is that he loaded a save before he gave the tools and forgot about it

[solemn perch]

I got fine work tools... Apperntly he doesn't take thees for some reason...

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[finite dragon]

Bruh why?

[solemn perch]

Vanilla I guess

[hazy helm]

make sure you give him basic, only then can you give him fine

[polar orchid]

i hope stalker 2 has some giga grind achievements that take like 2000 hours to complete

[hazy helm]

kill 10k deathclaws

I love OP2

[rotund widget]

A snippet from James Archer's interview with Ievgen Grygorovych, published by "Rock Paper Shotgun": "As a game director, I want to hide everything from the player", — GSC’s CEO Ievgen Grygorovych had told me minutes earlier. "I'm fighting with the marketing team because they want to show as much as possible!".

'k, I see. Now I see what's up over there 😅

[granite mortar]

Based Griga

[solemn perch]

Brb

[still ridge]

Call of Pripyat, right?

Not a mod?

[hazy helm]

yes

[solemn perch]

Ye

I prefare to finish vanilla before modding

Like I did with soc

Hmm I can't send pictures here

[hazy helm]

like you said you have fine work tools, make sure you have given him basic before

[solemn perch]

I did

And got a scope mount upgrade

[solid dome]

Gimme stalker2 key plese

[solemn perch]

That will be 60 dolas

[solid dome]

I eat Dole's bananas but not pay 60 dolas

[naive moth]

dude just buy gamepass

[solemn perch]

Coming to gamepass? Great I have xbox

[polar orchid]

does any version of stalker 2 have early access?

[solid dome]

And be MS slave forever?
No thanks

[naive moth]

want to play stalker?

it the only chep way

[rotund widget]

Yeah, it's a videogame, gotta script some shit, ya kno 😁

It's possible to make an A-Life trailer & it's needed to be done at least in order to explain what it actually is. People have no actual idea what A-Life is & are making up all sorts of nonsense — gotta manage the waffling before it tanks a response to the product 🤷🏻‍♂️

[still ridge]

No

Not that we know of anyway, I don’t think so

[loud gate]

No, and it will not.

[polar orchid]

i need early access so that my download will be finished on time for actual release day lol

[loud gate]

Preload exists, if they do.

[still ridge]

I think you can do that on Xbox

Not sure about on pc

[polar orchid]

i dont think so on steam...

[loud gate]

Also, Pre-Load isn't the same as "early access" lol

[naive moth]

nah i have a xbox

[loud gate]

Do not see why at all, many games do this. Especially big ones.

[naive moth]

you cant "predownlaod" it

[polar orchid]

if steam has it, ive never witnessed it

[still ridge]

I don’t think steam has preload for any game

[silk sparrow]

imagine: "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl demo is on its way to the Steam"

[loud gate]

Of course it does

[still ridge]

A man can dream

[rotund widget]

Have Zak sitting down with a script explaining the footage like it was done in 2021 — and there we go 👌🏻

[still ridge]

TIL

[loud gate]

Amen

[polar orchid]

it exists?

oh so only if the game allows it, this means stalker 2 will have preload?

that would be amaze balls

my internet is super slow

[solemn perch]

Yall turns out the basic work tools were at the saw mill....then..what were the tools I found at the workshop with hungry mercs?.. Wtf?

Lmao this game I swear...

Sorry for the bother.. Good hunting stalkers..

[still ridge]

Yes

[still ridge]

Tools for fine work

[solemn perch]

Scope mount needed fine work.....

[granite mortar]

You need previous upgrades
And those need basic tools

[still ridge]

Yes, but you can’t get the fine work modifications without the basic work being done first

[robust stream]

Anyone have any word on when they’re releasing more pre order packages? Websites been out for a long time and GameStop said they didn’t get any

[celest goblet]

They have said they are trying but there's no promises and no dates

[dense hatch]

you can give them in any order though

so for the preinstalled upgrades you don't necessarily need them

[versed crypt]

The sickening

Is upon me

[pearl jacinth]

first game to sell 30 stalkillion copies

[granite mortar]

Damn
Not even 8 Grokillion smh smh

[versed crypt]

SIGMILLION

[solid dome]

Help, JHEEEEEELP

[pseudo rivet]

Wee-woo, GROK Town Police, what's your emergency?

[granite mortar]

Ive been Groked by a Grokker
He ported my wallet

[static compass]

Hello stalkers, it's me again

[pseudo rivet]

Watch out, Grokker. I'm coming for you

[gaunt burrow]

hi

[granite mortar]

Its a me
Mario!

[static compass]

[granite mortar]

Did you know that with how Japanese names work
Marios first name is Itsumi

Itsumi Mario

[static compass]

Been trying to stay dark on all the news

Don't wanna see too much before the game is out

[granite mortar]

Dont stay in Dark Valley
That place has bad effect on your mind
Your head will spin and ache

[static compass]

Silly dark valley

[granite mortar]

Me trying not to refference Goldsphere (its the only thing Im good at):

[static compass]

What about Noosphere

[granite mortar]

Thats lame sphere
Because its not golden

[stark plover]

Goldsphere

[granite mortar]

Omg where?

[stark plover]

Everywhere

[granite mortar]

Omg

[solid dome]

I've been threated by Demosfens on the corner of Anomalous and 51st

[pseudo rivet]

Oh

Neato

So, what's the emergency?

[granite mortar]

No wallets were stolen
They told him they will be taking it (thats not stealing)

[granite mortar]

Your not Demosfen chad :(

[finite dragon]

Lol Call of Pripyat is the only stalker game that doesn't have family sharing enabled on Steam

#💬┃en_offtop message

[hazy helm]

I told you

[solid dome]

I was almost knifed by Demosfens

[granite mortar]

[dense hatch]

I've always found it strange how it was easier to find both the tools for fine and basic work in Jupiter

[odd temple]

S2 Trailer spoilers
||Imagine if the anomaly that Skif saw outside of the Zone is just a temporal anomaly created by an artifact ||

[solid dome]

Its caused of Fentanyl

[gaunt burrow]

exactly what I'm thinking tbh

but then again if that really would be the case then it leaves 1 question: why didn't artifacts generated anomalies before?

[granite mortar]

What if activating a Compass outside the Zone created a spatial anomaly out of your surroundings and moved the area into the Zone

[odd temple]

Yar mentioned it happening in CS

[gaunt burrow]

time gap between the trilogy and S2 is huge and if Yar said that artifacts generate anomalies and if the whole world is full of artifacts then anomalies in the big land should've happened way before

[granite mortar]

Guys
We should sometimes compete to see who drops the hardest stalker quote

[valid summit]

What if instead of it being called stalker it was called f.r.e.a.k.y and instead of shooting bullets into bandits you shot loads into bandits

[gaunt burrow]

aware but that's not my point

[granite mortar]

What if instead of typing you went outside and touched grass

[valid summit]

[gaunt burrow]

just feels weird how GSC is (possibly) touching that subject just now

[valid summit]

[odd temple]

I think any artifact is an expensive toy for anyone to buy. Plus I'm sure Ukraine government would do anything to cover up any instances of that happening, since officially the zone is secure and blah blah blah.

[gaunt burrow]

rest of the world being full of artifacts could mean that artifacts generating anomalies in the big land shouldn't have been rare occurrence at all

[granite mortar]

Scar was tok busy chasing Strelok, Strelok was too busy chasing Strelok and Deggy was too busy chasing choppers
They just didnt have time to learn magic rock magic using magic rocks that do magic things

[odd temple]

Is there that many artifacts though?

[gaunt burrow]

lemme get the dialogues (Suslov and Beard mention that fact)

"That's the sort of people we are! You can't buy an extra fifteen minutes of life or a spare store from death, but us traders are needed everywhere. Even in the Zone, even in the Swamps and even underground. It's an illusion that the Zone is under lock and key and the army has all the ways in and out sealed. Think about it, nowadays artifacts and rare specimens from the Zone can be found all over the world, and your fellow stalkers never have a shortage of canned meat, vodka, ammo or equipment - somebody's gotta be responsible for all that, right? Well, that's where we come in. In this place it ain't like selling bootleg CDs on the outside with the cops up your ass every damn day! Around here the situation is very simple: the outside world has an interest in the Zone and vice versa, but it's officially forbidden, prohibited and all that bullshit! That's what we're here for... we make sure those interests are satisfied, and everybody's happy. There's a joke among traders that if someone points a gun at you, your best bet is to try to buy it off them!" - Suslov

[granite mortar]

Artifact activation in builds was complicated process requiring precise chain or actions
You cant really activate it outside the Zone just like that
Also artifacts lose power when outside according to latest lore

[gaunt burrow]

i'm searching for beards dialogue hold on a sec @odd temple

[odd temple]

I think that's enough, but alright

Still would be nice to refresh my knowledge

[granite mortar]

herus heresy

[gaunt burrow]

here: "I came here with Grouse after the Scorcher was disabled. But I'm sure that's not what you really wanna know, am I right? I deal mainly in artifacts. The outside is full of trinkets already, so valuable customers want the rare stuff. That's why I decided to set up a stalker camp, where real high-value articles can still be found. I mean, when a stalker comes back with his loot, what does he really need? A cold one in his hand and good ol' human contact, that's what. And that's what Skadovsk is all about" - Beard

[granite mortar]

Skadovsk...

[odd temple]

Yeah, can't argue with this, then.

[gaunt burrow]

Herus I do like your point about Ukrainian government doing everything to cover that issue though

gotta admit, i didn't think about that before but that actually sounds logical

[granite mortar]

Wait what does the promising rookie role mean?

[gaunt burrow]

no idea tbh

[odd temple]

I got it in an event, I think

[granite mortar]

[native sparrow]

Ah

[dense hatch]

did y'all consider that artifacts degrade outside the zone now

so their value drops extremely quickly

[worn oar]

Oh yeah

Artifacts require anomalous energy

[dense hatch]

I think it's a new development and not a retcon

because if it was a retcon that would suck

[worn oar]

Meddling with these stones can only lead to problems

Duty was right in fearing the zone expansion

[dense hatch]

do they say if it's expanded by any notable amount?

[worn oar]

Apparently, if my speculation is correct, the anomaly that appeared outside the zone was caused by an artifact, or at least tied to an artifact.

There was an old concept that featured artifact activation

[gaunt burrow]

artifacts generating anomalies = them losing their properties (according to Yar)

[dense hatch]

if people figured out how to do that wouldn't it mean that energy would've solved

[worn oar]

An artifact gives birth to an anomaly of its own anomalous nature

[gaunt burrow]

so they would be useless after that tbh

[dense hatch]

I just blanked on the name of the electric anomalies

[gaunt burrow]

i can see people just throwing artifacts away after they became useless to them

[worn oar]

Ig trying to recharge some artifact cause anomalous energy to leak (using the topaz)

Or something else happened

And an anomaly appeared after an artifact activation

Who knows?

[mortal cipher]

Damn wish i had $ to go to one of these game shows and play the demo.

[worn oar]

Either way, duty was right to say expansion part

[solid dome]

Same

[worn oar]

They found a way to make artifacts in labs man. Hermann did

So yeah, Hermann can be part of the issue

One way or an other

Perhaps he messed up something

[gaunt burrow]

did GSC finally confirmed Zone's expansion?

[worn oar]

Oh well, yeah, not directly, but watch scar trailer

"An anomaly outside the zone" said skif and replied scar

That was the main reason skif went to the zone apparently

This exact info might be the center of stalker 2

Or not

Perhaps it just sparked the story, and things went as usual with the plot twists

I don't want to end up guessing right and spoiling my own exp, so I'll speak no further of this matter

Haha I sometimes do that, so hell nah, not with S2

[worn oar]

Well you know what an anomaly outside the zone?

You know what is the zone?

The zone is the zone because anomalies and anomalous energy popping out everywhere

So yeah, an anomaly outside the zone means the zone have expanded

And I don't believe it was ||strelok's fault this time|| possibly, ||SIRCAA and Hermann's||

[gaunt burrow]

anomalies outside the Zone could also be generated by artifacts also tho

[worn oar]

What does that mean yeah?

[worn oar]

Generated by an artifact, or whatsoever

It's the zone expansion becoming a thong

Thing*

[indigo marsh]

Still a bad thing

[formal scarab]

Will they be doing a giveaway or drop on release? I want the game but don’t have the money :/

[worn oar]

It is not just a bad thing, it is the conformation for the zone expansion part

[worn oar]

NDA, but I don't think so? Perhaps individual Content makers, or stores can do it, but can not be sure.

Tommy did once, maybe he'll do it again

Follow his channel and see if that happens

[formal scarab]

Who is Tommy?

[gaunt burrow]

maybe it has something to do with SIRCAA? I'm betting its a scenario of them messing something up badly or them intentionally causing that

[worn oar]

itstommylove

[indigo marsh]

Itstommylove, a stalker content creator

[formal scarab]

Ok ty!

[gaunt burrow]

in case it's not a case of artifact generating anomaly scenario

[worn oar]

Past trailers highlighted one fact

[granite mortar]

Do we know what the army was doing in Limansk during CS?

[worn oar]

It's basically in this scene lmao

[gaunt burrow]

theres 0 lore about that afaik

[indigo marsh]

Doing army things

[worn oar]

SIRCAA collecting anomalous energy can not be a simple detail you can overlook

You know what happened with C-Con

Ofc before becoming C-con

The reason of the zone creation

The nosphere

[gaunt burrow]

imo the guy doesn't look like someone who's words you can take for granted

[worn oar]

History is repeating itself for me

[gaunt burrow]

i can't confirm anything and have 0 sources but my gut feeling tells me that SIRCAA will be the one responsible for the events

[indigo marsh]

You think circaa has group members?

[worn oar]

Fr? Lmao man the topaz is one of a hell confirmation. DALIN is definitely a not to he trusted person. You can see how shady he sounds and looks

[abstract crane]

[north violet]

Damn, that facial animation.

[worn oar]

Nope? Perhaps they managed to get documents from past experiments and thought they could do what they couldn't

Control the zone

[north violet]

Btw, will we have the option to play the game in the Ukrainian dub with English subtitles?

[worn oar]

Control the nosphere

[spring apex]

#⭐┃nospoilers_general message artifacts don't work outside the zone in stated deepdive page, but well

[worn oar]

Oh guess what? That's not entirely true. Artifacts does work outside the zone, for a time, but they discharge.

[gaunt burrow]

NO WAY, is such a huge lore element actually retconned?

bruh

[worn oar]

Discharge is not a good thing for those who bough these items from the zone

So basically that should be fixed

[spring apex]

yeah either way

[worn oar]

Harnessing anomalous energy can mean one thing, charging artifacts

[gaunt burrow]

i hope its not true (but unfortunately if it is) then it's just BS. why would anyone in the big land want artifacts if they won't work outside the Zone?

[worn oar]

It does work, but being away from the zone cuts the anomalous energy supply.

[pseudo rivet]

Souvenir + they worked before it got retconned because retcons just work that way

[worn oar]

Again Matt, artifacts still works.

[pseudo rivet]

Retcons are a matter of "POOF! And now that which has been established to be factual for eternity is suddenly no longer true"

[worn oar]

Also, we are not sure if those artifacts outside the zone where human made or zone made

[granite mortar]

[worn oar]

Hermann can be connected to all that, as much as SIRCAA

[pseudo rivet]

You know how it is, Matt

[gaunt burrow]

got it

[pseudo rivet]

GSC decides what's canon now

[spring apex]

lol

[gaunt burrow]

speaking of man made artifacts, i hope S2 will flash that topic more

[worn oar]

Yoooo both of you, it is still Canon, it's just a developed idea

[worn oar]

Oh well, I do believe it is a thing there

[pseudo rivet]

You mean something which has been speculated to be the case for eternity suddenly not being the case by a game set and created much later in the future? Connection being severed with the Zone sounds like bs, ngl

[worn oar]

Hermann managed to make those, and one CoP ending suggested such

If it's Canon, then he'll yeah

[pseudo rivet]

[gaunt burrow]

i feel you

[pseudo rivet]

Bro wat

[indigo marsh]

I think this is more likely then what I thought

[worn oar]

What?

[gaunt burrow]

imo it would be better if artifacts effects would weaken over time until they become useless

[pseudo rivet]

Them having only a limited supply of anomalous energy, despite how bs that is, is a retcon/"previously unknown" case I am willing to accept depending on how "long" said supply of anomalous energy can be used. However, there being a connection with those artifacts sounds dumb as heck

[gaunt burrow]

yeah that retcon contradicts huge chunk of the lore also

[worn oar]

That's how it works actually

More funds, more human made artifacts

[pseudo rivet]

Ah yes, because that mentions artifacts directly

[worn oar]

It's only a logical guess

[pseudo rivet]

[worn oar]

Dummy

[pseudo rivet]

Anyways, back to watching Asterix & Obelix

[gaunt burrow]

in the lore many people including entire governments were interesting artifacts. literally entire world is full of artifacts but the whole zone connection thingy basically devalues artifacts to the extend where artifacts would be useless

[indigo marsh]

Wouldn't they become more expensive tho?

[gaunt burrow]

i mean yes people might still pay for artifacts but i doubt majority would pay huge sum for artifact just to keep it as a souvenir

[indigo marsh]

Because there is a limited number so there will be constant demand from companies and organizations

[gaunt burrow]

i doubt that would be the case because artifacts are appreciated for their properties

[pseudo rivet]

Where is it mentioned there's a limit?

[indigo marsh]

I don't understand

[pseudo rivet]

Of course you don't

[indigo marsh]

This is talking about artifacts not bananas

[gaunt burrow]

let's say that big land knows about artifacts outside the zone losing the properties, how many ppl do you think would buy useless artifacts?

[indigo marsh]

Unless bananas where gifts from the Monolith

[gaunt burrow]

some people might, no doubt but do you really think that majority of ppl would pay large money for artifact(s) without any properties?

[pseudo rivet]

Only rich people who want to show off with a souvenir or very desparate people who are actively looking for a cure / way to temporarily boost their capabilities

[solid dome]

I am ded

[pseudo rivet]

With other words, there'd be no profit whatsoever

[gaunt burrow]

exactly

[indigo marsh]

I think it is going to be artifact degradation in mods but only outside the zone

[pseudo rivet]

Ah yes, we're going to play OUTSIDE the Zone

STALKER: The Big Land Edition

[gaunt burrow]

sounds peak

[pseudo rivet]

Ikr?

[indigo marsh]

So it's literally just Tarkov

Jk

It's Tarkov but good

[gaunt burrow]

i still think that artifacts losing their properties over time until they become useless would be a good lore element because that would actually force people to buy more artifacts

[indigo marsh]

Same

Thank goodness they won't have artifact degradation IN the Zone

[sand fiber]

egh

depends but yeah gives the zone politics more depth

[dense hatch]

it entirely depends on the speed

if it's within a day then they're practically useless but if it's over a year

then I can see them having some value

[finite dragon]

Yea

[dense hatch]

it would still be a severe reduction of value

[finite dragon]

But theres still one artifact that cannot be made by humans

[gaunt burrow]

Good point. There should be a middle ground yeah

[finite dragon]

Like with every emmision that appears in the zone?

[dense hatch]

what?

[gaunt burrow]

Organizations buying artifacts again even if said artifacts lasted for a long time is still pretty plausible scenario though

[dense hatch]

emissions just change anomaly position and create new artifacts

[gaunt burrow]

Like mentioned hospital in SoC that wanted meat chunk

[dense hatch]

or the well known jellyfish description

[gaunt burrow]

I don't get your point tbh

[finite dragon]

That would be good mechanic that will add more realism into final product

[dense hatch]

how does it add more realism?

[finite dragon]

Every emmision will make artifacts lose their properties

[dense hatch]

unless emissions are much more rare then it would mostly mean artifacts wouldn't be worth using

there's an emission like every day in CoP

at least it feels like it

[gaunt burrow]

Why would that be? In the lore artifacts are clusters of anomalous energy

[finite dragon]

Like you can have 2 flashes and you have infinite sprint for the rest of game

[pseudo rivet]

I don't get your point tbh

[finite dragon]

Thats too op so for me

[finite dragon]

Yea but how would you nerf them?

[dense hatch]

that's because flashes are comparatively rare and balanced out by both needing anti rad artifacts and artifact slots

along with other types of artifacts being also very useful

a single goldfish can practically eliminate inventory management

artifacts are strong because it's a main gimmick of the games

[finite dragon]

Flashes are pretty common moonlights are more rare

[dense hatch]

do you mean in SoC?

[finite dragon]

Yes

[pseudo rivet]

Ez, make them like SoC's artifacts and make them have both good properties and bad properties. This means that you'll have to use artifacts in a manner that fits with your playstyle

[dense hatch]

artifact mechanics changed a lot over the games

[gaunt burrow]

2 ways: first is scenario of artifacts losing their properties over time until they become useless and second is them generating anomalies. Causing them to be useless

[dense hatch]

artifacts are much more rare and difficult to get in CS and to a lesser degree in CoP

[finite dragon]

First one is good one ngl

[pseudo rivet]

Nah, they're all wack

[gaunt burrow]

Don't forget: after anomaly is generated by artifacts its over: "Useful? Useful in our line of work means something that's gonna help you stay alive. That, or something that's gonna make your enemy dead. I'll tell you about artifacts. What's an artifact? It's a cluster of anomalous energy, kinda like a stock cube. There's also artifacts that can...err...what's that damn word...ah, right...ge-ne-ra-te anomalies! I think that's how Chekhov says it. Anyway, only problem is, once the artifact generates an anomaly it's as good as useless. The anomaly itself ain't exactly powerful nor does it last long, but it's good enough to delay someone or knock 'em off your trail altogether" - Yar

[pseudo rivet]

Just SoC them all

[finite dragon]

They should also add containers for artifacta like in anomaly

[dense hatch]

but why though

[pseudo rivet]

Bro, what do you think the artifact slots are?

[dense hatch]

there's already antirad artifacts

[gaunt burrow]

[dense hatch]

artifacts in anomaly were mostly weak anyways

[pseudo rivet]

Sorry bro, but SoC's system is simply the solution

[finite dragon]

Becouse we know artifacts are radioactive and to prevent this effect we can put them in container

[pseudo rivet]

With SoC's system, artifacts both have good properties and bad properties which means you can choose which artifacts to use and thus change the way you play the game in a manner that befits your playstyle

[pseudo rivet]

Damn, I never knew that. Guess I'll never use a Jellyfish, Wrenched or Bubble ever again

[finite dragon]

Im too dumb to understand whole artifact lore so im out of topic now

[sly matrix]

anti rad artifacts are overrated, just use 2 fireflies to outheal the radiation damage

[pseudo rivet]

I'm baffled

[gaunt burrow]

Ngl I'm getting confused too. Are we talking about lore or gamepay?

[dense hatch]

I have no idea

[sly matrix]

yes

[finite dragon]

Idk

[pseudo rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

Gameplay IS lore

[finite dragon]

Bro im too tired i think im gonna go to bed

[sly matrix]

lore is gameplay

[gaunt burrow]

Gn

[pseudo rivet]

Goodnight dawg

[finite dragon]

True

Okay time to leave stalker soc dm server and go to bed

[dense hatch]

artifacts degradation wouldn't be a fun gameplay mechanic

[finite dragon]

(Yes there are still some ppl playing mp in soc)

[dense hatch]

it would either be way too slow or way too fast

[finite dragon]

Gn chat

[pseudo rivet]

SoC artifacts' concept is just the best way to balance them, not to mention having them provide depth in the gameplay and thus making it even more interesting

[dense hatch]

they aren't strong enough in CS for most of them to be worth it like rupture resistance

[sly matrix]

agreed

[dense hatch]

*soc

They're neat but choosing between rupture resistance and bullet resistance isn't hard

[pseudo rivet]

That's a situational artifact. You can basically switch your artifact loadout to fit with the situation you're in

[gaunt burrow]

If we're taking about lore alone then heres my proposal on how to nerf artifacts. If we're taking about gameplay then SoCs system does seem like a good proposal

But frankly some SoC artifacts are still too OP tbh

[dense hatch]

which is a pain and not worth it most of the time

[gaunt burrow]

1 moonlight allows you to sprint forever

[dense hatch]

you're being shot at more than damaged by mutants so it's worth the cash to just drop them

[pseudo rivet]

True. I'd personally would like to see each artifact having a good and a bad side. In fact, it would even align with the concept of the Shining Zone in a way

[dense hatch]

same with the bleeding compared to removing endurance

[pseudo rivet]

The better the artifact, the worse the catch

[dense hatch]

I prefer how CS and CoP do artifacts even if they're a bit too easy to get in CoP

[pseudo rivet]

Boring tbh

[gaunt burrow]

Sounds like an interesting idea

[pseudo rivet]

Of course, factions like Duty who don't really use artifacts compensate with the upgrades their suits can have

[dense hatch]

it makes sense

but still kinda stinks for gameplay

[pseudo rivet]

What does?

Duty's suits not having artifact containers?

[sand fiber]

lame

[pseudo rivet]

Nuh-uh

[dense hatch]

yeah, the upgrades aren't really worth losing out on 2-3 artifacts

[pseudo rivet]

They are in my experience

[finite dragon]

Hi

Leaving aside the game system, this is the first artifact that was confirmed in CS, right? Why does the effect increase or decrease after that?

[indigo marsh]

artifacts were in SoC too

[gaunt burrow]

What do you mean first artifact that was confirmed in CS?

[dense hatch]

oh artifacts in CS working different compared to SoC

[gaunt burrow]

First artifact you can get in CS is Jellyfish but idk if you mean that

[dense hatch]

it's because in SoC artifacts aren't as fleshed out

[still ridge]

They kinda are

some of them

[gaunt burrow]

Ye CS and CoP artifacts are more balanced

[still ridge]

CoP mostly

Another CoP W

[gaunt burrow]

Although CSs artifacts are still stronger

[dense hatch]

hold on I need to check

I remember it being like microscopic healing and bleeding reduction

[indigo marsh]

CoP artifacts are like candy in a candy shop

[dense hatch]

I'm looking at it and the upgrade is garbage

+6 or +3 healing and small bleed reduction

also a small bonus to energy recovery

[granite mortar]

PEAK Sky finished
Entirety of Limansk, Hospital and CNPP only took me like 7 medkits
Exo, Kolobok and Eye sure do wonders

[gaunt burrow]

But heres another thing: in CS you can't get stronger artifacts at early stages, therefore getting artifacts such as Snowflake, Bubble etc feels more rewarding. While in CoP you can find strong artifacts such as Bubble and Snowflake even at Zaton but they are weaker and you don't feel the same way as you did in CS

[granite mortar]

rel rel
Common Peak Sky W

[pseudo rivet]

Wrenched is the best you can get at the Great Swamps

[dense hatch]

what's the difference in artifact hunting between CS and CoP besides them being weaker in CoP and spawning quicker?

[pseudo rivet]

CS anomalies being more dangerous

[dense hatch]

besides anomaly placement

[pseudo rivet]

Another W for CS

[crisp ruin]

Weak, I finished it with 2 medkits

[dense hatch]

that doesn't really change how you hunt them most of the time

except late game CoP where you can practically sprint through them and just grab it immediately

[pseudo rivet]

Trust me, it does

[granite mortar]

I could do it with just bandages but I wanted to get it done fast

[dense hatch]

also because of stuff like antidotes making chemical anomalies a joke

[granite mortar]

also, traditionally
I killed the helicopter at hospital with Bulldog from Limansk

[crisp ruin]

I think I had 200 bandages in my inventory

[dense hatch]

for a most part it just means being slightly more careful and waiting for the artifact to move a bit more often

[pseudo rivet]

They're already a joke without antidotes

[crisp ruin]

later I sold it

[granite mortar]

I had 17

[dense hatch]

artifacts moving in fields was a good change from SoC

[finite dragon]

I don't have a favorite artifact pictogram.
I'm thinking of it as a CS⇢SoC⇢CoP. Why are the effects etc. different?

[crisp ruin]

I'm little bit hoarder

[dense hatch]

because balancing choices overtime

I don't think it's supposed to be a lore thing because it's never mentioned

[crisp ruin]

My thing always works any games, Do hoarding and sell later

Even in Skyrim, I got rich so fast

[indigo marsh]

Don't really use drugs in CoP other than the 1 or 2 steroids uses per playthrough

[gaunt burrow]

Can you send the vid? XD. I tried taking it down with bulldog but couldn't even reach it

[granite mortar]

I kinda just play and dont bother with supplies much, what I get I get, what I dont... well I wont even try getting it

[indigo marsh]

I had 70-80 grenades in the CS endgame

[granite mortar]

dont have a video, but I usually aim 6 ish meters above the helicopter

[dense hatch]

they make the stupidly easy economy even easier

[granite mortar]

also I use hipfire

[dense hatch]

in storage or inventory because that's like 35kg

[gaunt burrow]

My accuracy with bulldog is horrible asf

[dense hatch]

aren't they half a kilogram each for some reason?

[indigo marsh]

I got a SVD in less than 5 minutes in CoP

[dense hatch]

that's balance!

[granite mortar]

I have a hard save there
Ill hit it and make a screenshot of my crosshair position

[indigo marsh]

Inventory. Used artis tho

[still ridge]

+6 bleed and +3 health, and the armor is better

[crisp ruin]

grenades in stalker literally nothing

[gaunt burrow]

Would be thankful for that

[indigo marsh]

For weight ofc

[crisp ruin]

I tried to kill with it but NOPE

[still ridge]

Weight carried too

[indigo marsh]

And then a rad and a bleeding arti

[dense hatch]

+6 bleed when it's comedically easy to stack bandages and +3 health when a single artifact does better

same with inventory capacity

It's not helped by it being the easiest game to get a ton of artifacts in too

[still ridge]

yet the armor itself is superior.. curious

[dense hatch]

it's worse I dunno what you're on about

the CS suit that you can just buy is better

[still ridge]

Skat-9 has twice the armor and only marginally less anomaly protection

And it gets two artifact slots

[pseudo rivet]

Okay, which armor are y'all even talking about?

[crisp ruin]

[pseudo rivet]

The CS-3a is just mid, tbh

[still ridge]

^

[indigo marsh]

I think duty armor

[dense hatch]

considering how easy it is to get?

[pseudo rivet]

PSZ-9d Duty Armor is peak

[crisp ruin]

Maybe this is gonna be weird but...

[pseudo rivet]

Yes, mid

[indigo marsh]

Yeah. The CS 1 rocks tho.

[dense hatch]

wait are we talking about the normal suit or the best one

[crisp ruin]

I never used armor in CoP

[pseudo rivet]

There is no best suit in CoP

[crisp ruin]

Really?

[indigo marsh]

Exo

[pseudo rivet]

It all depends on your playstyle

[still ridge]

Disagree

[indigo marsh]

Meant to reply to crispy

[pseudo rivet]

If that's your playstyle, then that's the suit you think is best

[still ridge]

Theres like 3 suits that are best for the game

[dense hatch]

the best duty suit

[pseudo rivet]

PSZ-9d is good

[worn oar]

Oh sure thing, but still. The ones that were made in the lab (at least the ones that we know of) are basically new ones. We also don't know how much this new achievement developed over time, so it's too early to run into conclusions

[pseudo rivet]

But not the best suit

[dense hatch]

because there's a difference between the god awful one and the very good one

[still ridge]

God awful one is still better than the sunrise suit

[worn oar]

[pseudo rivet]

There simply isn't a best suit, only a suit that best fits with your playstyle

[indigo marsh]

I ran the CS-3a in my first playthrough bc it was cooler

[dense hatch]

literally almost anything is better than the sunrise suit

[indigo marsh]

With the steel helmet ofc

[pseudo rivet]

Nah, Sunrise Bodysuit is actually pretty goated

[still ridge]

Sunrise is better than like 4 suits in CoP

[indigo marsh]

Currently using it in my CS playthrough

[worn oar]

Pretty standard and basic, but yeah, it's a good choice sometimes

[pseudo rivet]

Like I said, it all depends on your playstyle

[worn oar]

Oh yeah

Loud and clear dwag

[dense hatch]

I forgot about the mount system

[pseudo rivet]

There are only two suits which shouldn't be considered for late-game and that's the Leather Trenchcoat and the Berill-5m armored suit because of the broken upgrade

If the Berill-5m didn't have a broken upgrade, it would've been a legitimate choice

[indigo marsh]

What does that do?

The broken upgrade

[pseudo rivet]

You're locked out of a two-compartment artifact container

[gaunt burrow]

Cringe

[still ridge]

Another bulat W

[pseudo rivet]

IF that upgrade wasn't locked, it would've been a solid choice in my opinion

[still ridge]

But isn’t the skat-9 better in every way?

[dense hatch]

skat-9 is just really strong

[indigo marsh]

Best looking suit in all 3 games

[pseudo rivet]

Weight

[dense hatch]

loner and duty version

[still ridge]

you can get it down to 7 kilos though

[pseudo rivet]

And the Berill-5m even lower

It all depends on your playstyle

[dense hatch]

it's like a 4 pound difference or something

[pseudo rivet]

What if you barely ever get hit?

In that case, a Berill-5m might be for you

[dense hatch]

considering there's like 5 combat sections in the entire game that's a good point

[gaunt burrow]

Personally I'd pick Bulat over Berill anyday

[indigo marsh]

The only valid playstyle is loot goblin

[still ridge]

anyways. I’m excited to see the suits in stalker 2

And the upgrades

[dense hatch]

sorry, 5 human combat sections

I'll be butchered if they don't give some of them more unique models in the UI

[pseudo rivet]

Exoskeleton, SEVA Suit or Wind of Freedom IMO

[dense hatch]

for some reason they changed a bunch of them in CoP

I'm so glad they added the exosuit sprint upgrade

it's actually usable for long periods of time now!!!

[indigo marsh]

It was a joke

[dense hatch]

I hope they do proper unique dispersion and have unique suits or helmets

[gaunt burrow]

I'm something of a loot goblin myself

[pseudo rivet]

And I provided suggestions. You're the one who can profit here

[pseudo rivet]

Mfw am I the only one who uses the Shagohod easy movement system?

[indigo marsh]

After running the 9x18 Viper I think light weight is the best strategy. Atleast imo

[pseudo rivet]

Ayy, another convert

[indigo marsh]

And keeping a couple stashes around the map

So a light weight loot goblin

[pseudo rivet]

Wind of Freedom fr

[dense hatch]

it feels like I rarely ever return to an area after leaving it in SoC and CS, moreso CS

CoP just removed the perfectly fine stash system and replaced it with a terrible one

I really liked the suggestion of some always filled stashes someone said a while ago

[still ridge]

Yeah well sucks for you that it’s gonna be like that in HoC

[gaunt burrow]

You aren't the only one. I rarely visit some locations too

[pseudo rivet]

Like, not even MarkedMatt is a Shagohod easy movement system believer

[dense hatch]

they should spend another 6 months working the game to remove it

[still ridge]

Copium

[gaunt burrow]

Agroprom and Dark Valley in SoC for example gotta be my least visited locations

[dense hatch]

there's nothing to do in agroprom or dark valley after going through them besides one or two quests

no real trading hub or safezones

[indigo marsh]

What is that?

[pseudo rivet]

Bro always upgraded the Exoskeleton to sprint, he never noticed the other upgrade

[gaunt burrow]

It do be like that

[indigo marsh]

Only used the exo once lol

[pseudo rivet]

It's the Energy Recovery upgrade

So no sprinting but even more Energy Recovery

[jovial monolith]

hows the radiation in call of chernobyl? im getting small amounts but not losing health (I think) unlike previous games

[indigo marsh]

Not including SoC ofc

[dense hatch]

not nearly as strong

[jovial monolith]

pripyat

I keep saying chernobyl for some reason

[jovial monolith]

alr

[dense hatch]

same goes for CoP

might be why they removed the radiation dial

[jovial monolith]

im so happy I skipped CS cause honestly that game was aggravating asf but this has been so fun so far

[gaunt burrow]

||Althoutht huge part of why I always use fully upgraded Exo in CoP is because I want to get good slides on everything and during evacuation I always go first to distract as many enemies as I can and take damage instead of my teammates|| @pseudo rivet

[dense hatch]

yeah CoP is best on a first playthrough

[jovial monolith]

thx

[dense hatch]

spoilers

[pseudo rivet]

Just try the Shagohod easy movement system once

[gaunt burrow]

Suits like SEVA would be less effective for me in such cases

[dense hatch]

||still can't get over how the ending quest is an escort quest||

[pseudo rivet]

||At least it wasn't a QTE||

[mossy wagon]

yep

[pseudo rivet]

[dense hatch]

might've been better tbh

[gaunt burrow]

Skipped Clear Sky. Crimson we got a heretic here

[pseudo rivet]

Hell nah

[mossy wagon]

Bro clear sky for me is the best stalker game

[naive fog]

Hell nah indeed, tf is this

[pseudo rivet]

HERETIC

[gaunt burrow]

My favorite stalker game too unironically

[naive fog]

Based

[dense hatch]

I like clear sky because I enjoy stalker combat but if you don't like the increased difficulty or combat it's a fair choice

[mossy wagon]

real

[dense hatch]

CoP is also just piss easy

[mossy wagon]

I also like the clear sky faction

they are my favorite

[naive fog]

The trilogy is just easy 🤷🏻

[dense hatch]

true...

[granite mortar]

Herus heresy

[gaunt burrow]

Herus heresy fr

[pseudo rivet]

Clear Sky is factually the best STALKER game GSC has to offer (This fact has been fact checked by me, Sir Crimson)

[mossy wagon]

exactly

[dense hatch]

shame the music kinda peaked in CS for the most part

not accounting for unused music in SoC

[pseudo rivet]

It's not even Warhammer lmfao

[granite mortar]

The Zaton flute is pretty peak
But CoP combat music sucks

[jovial monolith]

wait can you not lean in CoP

[dense hatch]

it's so just deflated

[granite mortar]

Smh
You dont know about Herus and his Heresy

[pseudo rivet]

You can, bro should've played CS

[jovial monolith]

CS was horid

[granite mortar]

Its bland
CS combat music is peak

[mossy wagon]

Clear sky was the best stalker game

[pseudo rivet]

Taste issue, tbh

[jovial monolith]

I loved every bit of SoC (except the endgame) but I couldnt even get thru clear sky

[granite mortar]

Sounds like someone got Vist'd

[indigo marsh]

Filtered by Vist

[mossy wagon]

just try it bro

[pseudo rivet]

Where did you stop playing? Sounds like a Holy Run moment

[gaunt burrow]

I and plenty of other people disagree

[granite mortar]

So true Vistie

[mossy wagon]

exactly

[jovial monolith]

I did, I didnt like it

[mossy wagon]

FINISH IT

[pseudo rivet]

Where did you stop?

[jovial monolith]

no

[indigo marsh]

That's sucha good name

[mossy wagon]

Trust me finish it

[jovial monolith]

just before I got to the 3rd area

[dense hatch]

it's like someone was trying to make half life music but bad

[jovial monolith]

no

[hazy helm]

it was horrid how great CS was

[mossy wagon]

Half life music is great bro?

[granite mortar]

[pseudo rivet]

Bro forgot the name of either the Garbage or the Dark Valley. Wowzers

[sand fiber]

so true bestie

[dense hatch]

yeah, CoP tries to replicate it poorly

listen to combat track 3 and 2

[jovial monolith]

schlawg I know the names I just say the areas😭

[mossy wagon]

What do you not like about the game?

[granite mortar]

Only issue with CS is that its sooooo good it makes it inpossible to enjoy the other two

[pseudo rivet]

For someone who loved SoC, you not saying their names proves enough

[hazy helm]

what is there to not not like about clear sky?

[jovial monolith]

combat felt like a drag to go through

[sand fiber]

cop isn't trying to do half-life music, i have to agree though, CS combat music >>> CoP combat music

[dense hatch]

the spike in difficulty and increase in combat for those who don't like the combat

[dense hatch]

track 2 and 3

[granite mortar]

ABR
Only bad thing that ever came out of CS

[mossy wagon]

?

[jovial monolith]

I keep the combat music off😞

[dense hatch]

WHAT DID YOU SAY

[sand fiber]

bad mod for SoC!

[granite mortar]

[mossy wagon]

cop music was kinda mid, what I think personally

[dense hatch]

[hazy helm]

I couldnt shoot shit from 100 meters away safely away from anything, holding my piss jar and bag of doritos with my overpriced fishing pole of a weapon

[pseudo rivet]

Basically, every time he wanted to play, he felt like it was a hassle and dreaded to play it. Basically, he experienced the TRUE Zone experience and was afraid

[indigo marsh]

That is SoC

[dense hatch]

I can excuse turning off the combat music as simply having bad taste

but CS plays very different and has so much more quality control

[sand fiber]

ФHAHDAHFAHFGAHGDHAJFKSHGSHGSD

[jovial monolith]

I like combat to feel like its part of the world instead of its own thing with a soundtrack if that make sense

[granite mortar]

CS combat flute my beloved

[indigo marsh]

I turn off the combat music too

[dense hatch]

the music is both dynamic and quick because the combat is

[jovial monolith]

more like 5 meters😕

[granite mortar]

Smartest thing you ever said regarding Peak Sky

[dense hatch]

I also just like good music in video games

[indigo marsh]

NS does it better tbh

[dense hatch]

which stalker kinda lacks sometimes with the ambience being a bit too silent

such as wild territory or yantar

[sand fiber]

so true bestie

[pseudo rivet]

Which mod you playing? That or you're still using shotguns or have guns in bad condition

[jovial monolith]

also my leaning question earlier uh, for some reason the leaning in the game just isnt working

[pseudo rivet]

Probably a punishment for not playing CS?

[dense hatch]

is the only thing you like about CS the music

[sand fiber]

yeagh pretty much :3

[dense hatch]

I can respect that at least

[jovial monolith]

the only mods I had were that one that fixes bugs, one that improves graphics, and one that reduces grenade spam

[broken latch]

You're mid, what I think personally

[dense hatch]

is that a joke

[pseudo rivet]

And there we have it

[gaunt burrow]

Nozar is #1 Clear Sky hater and even she thinks that people shouldn't skip CS lol

[sand fiber]

^fact checked by real CS haters!

[broken latch]

What nade spam

[jovial monolith]

whats wrong with reducing grenade spam😔

[broken latch]

There is no spam?

[dense hatch]

there's not that much

[broken latch]

If you play the game correctly

[jovial monolith]

I mean I wasnt having fun on CS, thats enough reason to not play😭

[dense hatch]

I still remember my first playthrough really only having an issue early on adjusting to it

[broken latch]

If you try to cheese the game, you get "spammed" with nades @jovial monolith

[indigo marsh]

It's over estimated tbh

[dense hatch]

CS hates the player standing still for too long

[pseudo rivet]

What's wrong with grenade spam? One grenade would kill you either way. In fact, it makes the game easier

[jovial monolith]

I move constantly

[sand fiber]

eghhhhhh i disagree, especially if it's like first 5 hours, you have to suffer a bit and see if it gets better

[jovial monolith]

its just quality of life you vanilla elites😭

[broken latch]

Not enough if you think there's nade spam

[pseudo rivet]

This explains everything

[broken latch]

Quality of life is supposed to improve the game

[dense hatch]

clearly not enough because they don't throw that many grenades unless you've spent like 30 seconds in the same spot of cover and aren't shooting back

[dense hatch]

so true so true

[jovial monolith]

I don't even know if there was I just saw it and enabled it cause I thought it sounded annoying😭 its not like I dont get nades thrown at me

[dense hatch]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[pseudo rivet]

B r u h

[dense hatch]

you didn't even try it vanilla first to see if it needed "fixing"

[gaunt burrow]

No comments

[dense hatch]

what mods

[broken latch]

You disgust me

[pseudo rivet]

No wonder you didn't like it, you modded it

[jovial monolith]

yall are acting like reducing nades by a little bit is as if im just taking the "stalker" out of the game and putting "fallout" on it holy hell

[dense hatch]

you can't complain about a game IF YOU DIDN'T PLAY IT VANILLA

[pseudo rivet]

In fact, you are

[broken latch]

What you have done is defile a grave

[jovial monolith]

its literally just reducing nades by a little bit😭

[dense hatch]

just playing fallout 3/4 instead and calling that CS would've been better

[broken latch]

Not little bit

[pseudo rivet]

Oi, calling CS a grave is a grave insult

[broken latch]

You haven't even seen vanilla so you can even say

[sand fiber]

somewhat true

[broken latch]

It's a comparison

Equally bad thing to do

[jovial monolith]

im still playing the same game

[broken latch]

No

[pseudo rivet]

Grave. Insult.

[dense hatch]

I'm more focused on the entire visual changes and whatever the hell the "bugfixes" were

[jovial monolith]

yes

[pseudo rivet]

No

[dense hatch]

because some of them do actually change gameplay quite a bit

[jovial monolith]

SRP

[dense hatch]

same with the visual changes, it's the best looking game by default

[sand fiber]

by bugfixes they mean SRP i assume

[broken latch]

All bug fixes mod change gameplay

[dense hatch]

any of the add-ons?

[jovial monolith]

just the nade one

[dense hatch]

what visual mod?

[sand fiber]

i don't like the visual choices in CS tbh but i doubt any mod can "improve" or "fix" it

[mossy wagon]

I guess I can't have opinions, I like clear sky music and soc music

[dense hatch]

it's a lot more colorful compared to the other 2 titles, which is nice imo

[pseudo rivet]

I mean, it makes sense. Of course the Dutyer hates the game which puts the most focus on the Zone without even actually playing it

[mossy wagon]

clear sky base music? perfect bar music? also perfect

[jovial monolith]

"SRP add-on, improved textures"

[dense hatch]

I need to sit down

[gaunt burrow]

Lore accurate ngl

[granite mortar]

SRP
Stands for
Slop
Remove
Pls

[broken latch]

Hahaha

[jovial monolith]

buncha fanatics in here

[sand fiber]

kuro!!!

[pseudo rivet]

'Sup babe

[indigo marsh]

Omgs it That car

[dense hatch]

listen it wouldn't be a problem if you didn't change the game before actually playing it, esp visually

you removed like 60% of the style

[pseudo rivet]

I mean, it'd still be a problem, but now it's even more of a problem

[jovial monolith]

game feels stalker, plays stalker, looks stalker, whats the problem😭

[granite mortar]

Speaking of Duty in CS
I managed to beat them bad enough for my Freedom friends to not only capture and hold the Agroprom exits, but after we won and Duty rearmed, the Freedomers managed to push closer to their base and capture some of their outposts

[indigo marsh]

Still significantly better than ABR

[dense hatch]

that's like replacing the weird sort of photorealism of SoC with normal textures

[sand fiber]

THAT'S WHAT CS DID

[pseudo rivet]

Game feels STALKER, plays STALKER, looks STALKER yet you don't want to play it. Curious

[jovial monolith]

I liked SoC textures more than CS's and CoP tbh

[sand fiber]

sooooooooooooo true

[dense hatch]

EXCEPT CS CHANGES HOW LIGHTS WORK AND HAS STYLIZED TEXTURES

[broken latch]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-staring-at-camera-cat-staring-at-camera-luna-staring-cat-staring-head-empty-gif-1312148652733469354

[pseudo rivet]

Ah neat, you captured their base

[sand fiber]

YES AND IT'S BAD!!!

[granite mortar]

Ewww
Abr mentioned
Gonna listen to Clear Sky Combat OST 3 to clear my mind

[jovial monolith]

didnt have fun on that, had fun on SoC and im having fun on CoP

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds hypocritical

[granite mortar]

Yes
We outnumbered them 2 to 1 and my friends managed to push in without my help

[broken latch]

Why are you playing CS last

[dense hatch]

IT'S COLORFUL FOR ONCE

[jovial monolith]

I played it 2nd

[dense hatch]

I'm so tired of all the drab looking mods and games

[granite mortar]

Also my rewards at Clear Sky base were 50k roubles...
No idea where that amount came from

[pseudo rivet]

That's the neat thing! He isn't, because he won't play CS ever again

[sand fiber]

okay that's fine but how are you going to play esoteric russian mods if you can't even endure CS? curious.

[jovial monolith]

beer

[sand fiber]

eghhhh SoC was colorful too

[dense hatch]

I clearly wanted the visual design from modern warfare 2

[pseudo rivet]

Real

[dense hatch]

SoC is just a lighter game, but it isn't colorful

textures were lighter but they didn't have the same sort of variety in how strong that was

[granite mortar]

They did
Just look at medkits smh smh

[broken latch]

Borderlands is colourful, stalker is sad

[dense hatch]

I'm not going to criticize SoC's visual style because it works really well for the game, but I can't imagine CS with the same color

[dense hatch]

stalker is insane, not sad

[broken latch]

Sad

[dense hatch]

there's so much so often and it rarely goes into sad

[dense hatch]

esp CS and SoC where the moments work because they're few and far between

[pseudo rivet]

[dense hatch]

oh look it's night and therefore when you shouldn't be playing the game

[pseudo rivet]

Daytime

[dense hatch]

nah that's bordering on night

way too dark, not a fan

[worthy lagoon]

@pseudo rivet @broken latch @granite mortar ||STALKER GAMMA has the best A-Life system

(Obviously joking, Goldsphere has the best A-Life system)||

[pseudo rivet]

Okay cool

Don't care

[granite mortar]

I will Grok you

Also Goldsphere doesnt have Alife

[worthy lagoon]

It does

[granite mortar]

It entirely consists of story NPCs
And mutants that dont even leave their spawns

[worthy lagoon]

They do

[granite mortar]

No

[worthy lagoon]

Look at the outskirts

Or radar

[granite mortar]

They are only in one place
And dont leave it
That place being
My heart

[worthy lagoon]

You don't have a heart

[granite mortar]

Red Forest*

[worthy lagoon]

Just like you don't have a brain

I am blind

[granite mortar]

Colourblind*

[worthy lagoon]

But it is you who cannot see

[granite mortar]

Thats true
I cant NL See

[gaunt burrow]

Both are right tbh. Its still referred to as Radar in some dialogues

[granite mortar]

Red Forest
And the lab is X-19

[worthy lagoon]

Radar

And the lab is ||Deez nuts in yo mouth||

[sand fiber]

look up CS builds, some of the earlier swamp demos have SoC style

and ngl, looks better :3333

[granite mortar]

Haters gonna hate

[indigo marsh]

Agent

[pseudo rivet]

I hate EA

[granite mortar]

Ehhhhhhh

[granite mortar]

Based

[sand fiber]

sooo based

[granite mortar]

Alife is overrated

[indigo marsh]

Goldsphere is overrated

[granite mortar]

Angry kot

[crisp ruin]

Sad kot

[granite mortar]

Omg
Kot

[jovial monolith]

if I make that drunk guy too drunk, when does he wake up🧍‍♂️

[granite mortar]

You think he will wake up?