⭐┃nospoilers_general

[rare kraken]

why was the game delayed to november 20th???

[vale patrol]

How late are you god damn 💀

[rare kraken]

I really wannt to play the game now

ehh I just checked cuz it was 2 weeks from september 5th

[vale patrol]

Damn

[rare kraken]

and saw nov 20 on the store page

[vale patrol]

Yeah does suck but they making it better

[rare kraken]

ye tru,.,...

better release the full develope game than rushed game

[vale patrol]

We waited this long we can wait 2 more months

[vale patrol]

Facts

[rare kraken]

yea I play stalker games since 6 years ago, been stoked abt the new one for 3 or so years now

pre ordered 1.5 year ago

[vale patrol]

My first one was Call of Pripyat some years back on GeForce now

Played it on Ironman mode and fell in love with stalker since

[rare kraken]

I say I cant wait, but I def can, im just extremely excited for its release

[vale patrol]

Facts

[rare kraken]

oof im too dogshit to play ironman challege XD

[vale patrol]

I live for that shit man 😭

[tough lance]

dont be, just dont care about it, play something else, or else time will pass very slowly for u

[vale patrol]

It’s more a mental thing it just immerses me so much more

[rare kraken]

I do like hardcore challenges, but only in certane games

[vale patrol]

The fact I gotta treat it like I only have one life

Pretty much as if your actually in the game lmao 👌🗿👌

[rare kraken]

yes thats true, i guess ill play bo6 till stalker 2 releases

[vale patrol]

And that shit just makes you think gets your brain going and you play better

[rare kraken]

so I have good aim against the enemy npcs XD

[tough lance]

is bo6's gameplay revealed

[vale patrol]

Facts there’s mad games prob gonna shadow drop torwards gamescom

[rare kraken]

not sure

[vale patrol]

Yes there’s been leaks

[rare kraken]

late 2024 gonna be lit

[tough lance]

its on steam as well

[vale patrol]

Man that shit is sweaty asf now lmao

[rare kraken]

so many cool games comin out this year

[vale patrol]

Mfers got Omni directional movement now and can dive sideways and backwards while shooting 💀

[tough lance]

but i think its just some promotional covers, no details into the game or gameplay

[rare kraken]

yea im personally not fan of the omni movement

[vale patrol]

I wouldn’t say I’m getting old man but I just really don’t wanna deal with that bs 😂

[rare kraken]

cuz I dont wanna be killed by some sweaty dude with his 10 buttons on his mouse for every direction of movement

unless im that sweaty guy,,, haha

[vale patrol]

Last fps I sweat in was The Finals

[tough lance]

whats omni d movement, is it like ull be able to go any direction not only 4? how do u control that on a keyboard, on a controller itd be easier

[vale patrol]

Which wasn’t even too long ago diamond in season one and 2 but this season 3 I stopped playing tbh

[tough lance]

lolz

[rare kraken]

yeah if its really any angle of movement for controller, controller may finally have the advantage against PC

excluding aim assist...

I hate playing againt ppl in games where the cross play aim assist is unfair

[tough lance]

aim assits should have never existed in the first place

[vale patrol]

Yeah every direction like irl pretty much your not forced to look in the direction your moving and can’t sprint sideways slowly and strafe, sprint backwards, dive side to side

[rare kraken]

fortnite is one example lol

the aimassist is WAY too strong

[vale patrol]

Nah def should lmao

Aiming on a controller compared to of is aids without aim assist

[rare kraken]

nah aimassist is aimbot lol

[tough lance]

it was made for mobile games cuz it was hard to control and aim well, no idea why they put aim assist to pc games, even mobile games shouldnt have aim assist

[vale patrol]

That’s why it exists lmao

[rare kraken]

I disagree, jerm

[vale patrol]

It was made for console games lmao

[rare kraken]

but I see where u are coming from

[vale patrol]

You can dissagree lmao but every game ever has it to this day for a reason lmao. It hasn’t just been added to every game on controller for no reason for the past 15 years 💀

[tough lance]

perhaps, but u most commonly see aim assist in mobile games, personally ive not seen aim assist on console games

[vale patrol]

Plus I can guarantee you if you guys were to hop on controller and we all turn off AA and 2v1 in cod I’ll still roll y’all and you wouldn’t be able to do shit

Not even on ego but just because if you don’t play controller at all AND have no aim assist your cooked

[rare kraken]

aim assist only helps noobs lol

and PC noobs dont get aim assist

[vale patrol]

??? There hasn’t been an PvP FPS other than insurgency sandstorm in like the past years that doesn’t have aim assit 😭

[worn oar]

Unexpected anomalies. It had to happen for our sake as players. GSC are serious about delivering the game in the best condition possible as envisioned. Dw, this time it's really final

[rare kraken]

if I was born yesterday and hopped on my first shooter game, id pick controller with aim assist

but if I really wanted to be good, id choose to learn mouse and keyboard

[vale patrol]

Facts lmao the skill ceiling is easy

[rare kraken]

yeah def haha

[vale patrol]

But on mnk it’s higher

[rare kraken]

low skill ceiling for controller, higher for PC

assuming aim assist is there lol

[vale patrol]

Exactly but controllers just easier to learn

[worn oar]

Wise choice. The game is best played with a mouse and keyboard

[vale patrol]

But then again there’s thoes anomaly’s no pun intended lmao

Mfers be crazy on controller

[rare kraken]

yeah definitely, my girlfriend who has never played shootergames before wanted me to teach her, we tried PC and tbh she sucked XD... but when she got on controller the improvement was immediate

[vale patrol]

Facts

[rare kraken]

so I agree with you there

its just more intuitive

[vale patrol]

Well one is made specifically for gaming and the other just adapted to it

So there’s that

[rare kraken]

I have perfect muscle memory for PC so ill never need a controller, but for first time gamers controller is the way to go

[vale patrol]

Depends the game but I agree

[rare kraken]

and I bet controller winning against PC is way more rewarding

I get so mad when I get destroyed by the same dude on xbox

but if I was that cracked xbox guy instead... id have so much fun pissing off PC gamers

[vale patrol]

My fault phone fkn died lmao

I’m just hoping mol1t can answer the Ironman mode question. Unless it’s NDA lol

I’ll be back in a bit when’s he’s prob answered the next round of questions

[rare kraken]

lmao alright man

good talk we had

[vale patrol]

Indeed

[worthy lagoon]

@pseudo rivet what if Faust is Scar?

[granite mortar]

I said that like a month ago

[sly matrix]

but what if

hear me out

Scar is Faust?

[worthy lagoon]

Ur a cat, ur opinion doesn't count

Go back playing gamma

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-gif-6631052590502915057

[pseudo rivet]

Faust looks younger, tbh

[granite mortar]

Ur a discord janitor
Lowest form of human

[finite dragon]

if collectors edition is out of stock in my country will their be any more afterwards?

[worthy lagoon]

Shush

I force you to play GAMMA

For 590 hours

[sly matrix]

Kuro woke up today and chose violence

[dim topaz]

Guys wouldnt it be cool if Faust was actually Scar from Clear Sky? They look kinda similar.

[finite dragon]

NO.

[naive fog]

[finite dragon]

we need a dlc for scar, i hope they bring him back

[naive fog]

Tbh GSC is saying we will learn more about Clear Sky in HoC so there is a chance 🙏🏻

Scars body at least 🙏🏻

[dim topaz]

He will be vibing in Limansk

[dim topaz]

Damn are we getting freaky in general?

Or am I misunderstanding smth here

[naive fog]

[finite dragon]

[sly matrix]

could we not...

[prisma goblet]

No

[naive fog]

[granite mortar]

Id like to see you try

[versed crypt]

Wake up STOC gang

It's time to STOC

[sly matrix]

oh yeah, it's STOCin'-time!

[versed crypt]

It's time to STOCin wake up

Wake up S.T.A.L.K.E.R.ai, we've got a STOC to be on

[worthy lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/to-the-depths-with-you-cat-depths-to-the-depths-gif-7441909642438936732

[versed crypt]

Will he survive this ordeal?

[wraith vortex]

I am so hyped for the release of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 all I am waiting for is the physical edition email so I can grab it ASAP

[versed crypt]

I'm not bothered TBH, when it's out it's out

[wraith vortex]

I want the physical as to have all the cool stuff there along with the game

I know for a fact I am not exiting my home untill I finish the game

[warm linden]

stalker I took our child to work
we're in agroprom underground

[versed crypt]

Me with Cyberpunk:

[versed crypt]

Oh lordy

[granite mortar]

If course I will
Kuro cant enforce anything

[worthy lagoon]

Based

[dawn grotto]

man children yearn for the agroprom mines

[warm linden]

we're finished

[solid cosmos]

For those of us on Xbox. Preload for Stalker 2 is up. It's abt 200mb give or take.

Least for the gamepass version. Idk if preorder preloads are up yet or not, probably not?

[finite dragon]

will there be a restock of collectors edition for Stalker 2?

[worthy lagoon]

You sure?

I am next to your house

[finite dragon]

#🖤┃s2-pre-order message this message here says any problems please message us

I just want to know if they will restock collectors

I know it's unlikely, but if Scar were to meet Skif, I'd already be in cardiac arrest...
Great Swamps was used, so maybe we can find out about Clear sky?

who should I message if I want this question answered? @worthy lagoon you are a mod any advice here?

[worthy lagoon]

What's the question?

Ah

You will have to wait for restock

If they restock

[finite dragon]

ok ty

I really hope they do I can't believe I missed it! I've been looking at getting collectors for a long time and I have the cash but didn't realise it would be out of stock like this!

Fallout 3 was one of my favourite games ever and I think Stalker 2 will likely be one of my favourite games ever lol 🙂

I don't get many collectors I thought this one looked really special. Would love to see a restock

[worthy lagoon]

Have you played the trilogy?

[finite dragon]

of stalker or fallout?

[worthy lagoon]

Stalker

[silk sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker2-dance-man-of-culture-gif-21968528

towards dancing

[finite dragon]

no I didn't but I have watched many videos about it

[worthy lagoon]

You should play it

[finite dragon]

I am interested to know, in the old stalker apparently npc groups of stalkers, mercs, bandits, would patrol and it was all simulated like they could randomly be somewhere you are scavenging. And you can recruit mercs form your own group and stuff. Is this in Stalker 2?

[dim topaz]

They can also beat the game before the player

[sand fiber]

fallout 3

IMMEDIATE DEATH

[finite dragon]

I modded the shit out of it with darker night time, realistic lighting, better gore

[sand fiber]

still death :3

[sand fiber]

in the old stalker as in the trilogy or alpha SoC

[finite dragon]

I dunno, was this a part of Stalker 1?

sounds too good to be true maybe I made it up

[dim topaz]

Stalker is just russian fallout dude

[sand fiber]

You can't recruit anyone in release, yet stalkers are simulated

[worthy lagoon]

No

You cannot recruit anyone

You're probably confused with mods like STALKER Anomaly, GAMMA and EFP

[finite dragon]

you think that is something will be added with mods to Stalker 2?

[worthy lagoon]

The original games in chronological order are

STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl

STALKER Clear Sky

STALKER Call of Pripyat

[finite dragon]

damn that's a shame

the simulated patrols and having your own squad sounded pretty cool

[sand fiber]

not really

[dim topaz]

it's kind of in call of pripyat, for like a few missions

[worthy lagoon]

Not really

[finite dragon]

game still looks amazing

[finite dragon]

what you mean not really? That's just like, your opinion man xD

[sand fiber]

because they tested it before release and it sucked :3

Not even total conversion mods touch it, only freeplays sometimes have the system

[finite dragon]

why because too much resource?

[dim topaz]

patrols ARE simulated, but you as the player are alone 95% of the time, and that's how it should be. Once you play the game you'll see why, but you're already talking about modding it into the game without having experienced vanilla at all

[finite dragon]

different reason to it being bad then if they just couldn't run it

[granite mortar]

Good thing Im not

[finite dragon]

ok that makes sense

I like being alone in these games if it's a choice I understand

[sand fiber]

because it just didn't work design-wise
there's no reason for squads to exist, gameplay's not about dat

[dim topaz]

stalker is fundamentally a different game from fallout

[finite dragon]

could be cool to experience that kind of gameplay in dlc or something

as it was part of Stalker popular mods am I right?

[dim topaz]

idk I only played the dateable sidorovich mod

[worthy lagoon]

There are no real friends in the zone, and in S2 there won't be coop because you are meant to be alone most of the time

[tender torrent]

Even if we can say that factions exist, but hey...

[dense hatch]

half life 1 assassin so far

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[hardy bear]

Might sound silly but one thing I found rather fun was just watching where people choose to go after an emission, and in an open world setting I can see that being a fun pastime

I imagine developing a-life for a world so huge must have been majorly headache inducing

[sand fiber]

assuming a-life is even real

[hardy bear]

It was confirmed to exist years ago, unless they’ve dropped it since which makes no sense

[stable lodge]

Hello, where would it be the best to ask about physical preorder for poland? Ive signed up to reminders on all polish websites for collectors ed as far back as february 2023 but never got anything

[warm linden]

NozAr I managed to beat Clear Sky with just the viper 5
I need therapy

[sand fiber]

two weeks ago

daaamn this stalker gaem is tedious
now
ENTIRETY OF CLEAR SKY WITH A VIPER

i pray for your sanity

[warm linden]

sanity? what's that?

It is entirely possible but the lack of armor piercing hurt my soul

[grizzled pelican]

Is it possible to preorder stalker 2 on Xbox?

[warm linden]

@sand fiber I did attempt viper 5 only on call of pripyat
don't do it, there is enough monolith to fill the entirety of CNPP

[sand fiber]

well at the end of the day vanilla challenges are just step 1

soup mods are step 2

[tender torrent]

not yet digitally

[grizzled pelican]

@tender torrent They didn't tell us anything about it but u can preorder 3 version of stalker 2 on Xbox store but idk if I should trust it since they didn't mention it

[granite mortar]

@main tangle
Hey
When was X-7 mentioned
It confused me a bit in your story roadmap

[celest blaze]

gamma is step 3

[finite dragon]

recently most of the suggestions i see is bunch of crap imp

[celest blaze]

for what ?

[finite dragon]

for stalker

[celest blaze]

oh in the s2 channel?

[finite dragon]

yea

[celest blaze]

yeah some of them seem kinda out of place or pointless imo

[finite dragon]

[hardy bear]

Can be fun looking in there sometimes though

Rest assured that most probably won’t ever make it in cause it’s far too late to add now

[dense hatch]

yeah most of the recent suggestions aren't great

or are extremely minor

[sand fiber]

Grok yourself

[dense hatch]

hey you can't say that

[hardy bear]

Best idea is the kick though. Heck go full turbo overkill and just slide into everyone and knock them off stuff with an exaggerated ragdoll

[celest blaze]

[main tangle]

Hey 👋 It's in the "Order of Transfer" found in lab X-8

[dense hatch]

or fear

I just think the gameplay might not allow that close of an engagement often

[granite mortar]

Thanks

[sand fiber]

imsim stalker be like

[tender torrent]

Wait for Gamescom from August 21 to August 25 to find out more

[celest blaze]

microsoft has different preorder policy compared to pc

[opaque vortex]

Stalker 2 is now showing on gamepass with pre install

[static compass]

Yeah, they aren't allowed to let people preorder games that don't have a release date

[modern ravine]

Greetings STALKERS, new here

[static compass]

Guess they just haven't fixed it yet

[static compass]

Welcome

[celest blaze]

welcome

[modern ravine]

So random question.. i've been trying to get friends into the sequel and with the huge new deep dive video .. has anyone done a side to side comparisons of the locations ? i love the new video but i would have loved like a wipe effect from the original locations to stalker 2 , we know the locations but the difference would be cool to show off

[cyan canopy]

Maybe watch Anomalous Dugout or SpartanMozi vid

[modern ravine]

cool new names , will check them out

[static compass]

Can't wait for gamescom

[somber hawk]

cant wait for a event i wont be able to go to

[static compass]

I'm not going either, I'm just hoping for another trailer since they'll be there lol

Although for those who are going, they're supposed to have new demo available

[loud gate]

Yes, they did

[modern ravine]

sucks to be in Australia , the ass hole of the gaming world. the coolest thing we ever got was a Mick Gordon lecture

[tender torrent]

I'm just wondering how long stalker 2 will be on Gamepass, 2 months, 3 months, indefinitely?

will be playable in Cloud simultaneously with Game Pass Ultimate subscription, playable on Xbox One Cloud for those who do not yet have the nextgen

Stalker 2

[crisp ruin]

What I know is, until game's popularity dies out

[naive fog]

Which is never

[crisp ruin]

Like only few people plays and doesn't have a peak anymore

[naive fog]

Playing HoC in stalker cosplay is gonna be peak

Already is for base stalker and mods but damn it's gonna be good for HoC

[tender torrent]

there would be fewer people for multiplayer

[mortal parcel]

[lean quiver]

Gamma sucks

[naive fog]

💀

Bro cannot let Grok chill

[grizzled pelican]

@crisp ruin well it's literally the worlds most anticipated game on PC and Xbox so I'm pretty sure the player base is going to skyrocket

[dense hatch]

it doesn't matter when someone says it because it searches the text box every time it opens discord

gamma two

[half kestrel]

Yo guys where can I preorder the collector's edition

[naive fog]

Stalker 2.com

Idk if it's still there tho

Haven't checked in ages

[loud gate]

It's BROK, wassup brok

[loud gate]

#🖤┃s2-pre-order

[naive fog]

Bro doesn't even ask me what's up

[half kestrel]

i checked some websites who apparently have it out of stock for example ozone.bg does that mean it will definetly be out of stock or theres gona be a restock

[loud gate]

Sorry

[loud gate]

Sometimes there's restocks, etc.

[naive fog]

[modern ravine]

I would hope that at least the O.G players buy a physical or pre-order the game. Gamepass is good to build a community but i hope GSC gets that initial nostaglia cash injection for everything they have been through.

[dense hatch]

still going to wait 6 months for it to go on sale so it's affordable

[celest goblet]

Will be the first game in a while I buy full price

[gray ore]

Dude, I bought a showcase only to display m'y ultimate physical edition when it delivered, can't wait to have the statue throning near m'y PC will playing the game

[opaque vortex]

All I'm waiting on is info/showcase on a life 2.0 then I can preorder! If we don't get good info on that before release I will play through gamepass before buying

[celest goblet]

It feels like something that would be difficult to showcase in an exciting way

[dense hatch]

it's just not as noticeable as the combat or visual design

[mortal parcel]

At least it gets to do something sexual, unlike you most probably

[mortal parcel]

Hyped for sdalger 2

[coarse lake]

I'm wondering if there's gonna be any more Collector's Editions for PC around the Czech Republic since literally every store around doesn't have it in stock

idk if I'm too late or something

I would prefer to not have to pay like €30 for shipping from a different country

[somber hawk]

buy from poland

[coarse lake]

that's still gonna be quite a bit of money for shipping because it's a decently big package

[nimble cipher]

s0nic_w0lf has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse lake]

best would be Czech Republic or Slovakia but everything's sold out so I'm just wondering if I can wait for a restock to get cheaper shipping or if there's not gonna be any more restocks and I'll have to pay extra to import it

[dense hatch]

nice

[coarse lake]

homie typed a whole essay just to get dunked on

[loud gate]

Let's go brok, hype

[prisma goblet]

in another universe stalker 2 releases in 19 days

[celest blaze]

I wish DoctorX wasn't dead I wish we got a call of the zone 2

Rip to a king

[cyan canopy]

maybe we can continue his legacy in stalker 2 when sdk comes out

[celest goblet]

only 3 months left, after a nearly 15 year wait

[celest blaze]

That would be based af

[dense hatch]

recall of the zone

[lean quiver]

True Stalker is the true stalker mod

[dense hatch]

don't you mean lost alpha

[cyan canopy]

Wha-?

[lean quiver]

A mod

actually history based UNLIKE gamma

[cyan canopy]

knockout simulator

[dense hatch]

bait used to be believable

[mortal parcel]

You just enjoy story focused game. That’s all.

I enjoy gameplay focused games. Many other people do as well.

[lean quiver]

If by gameplay you mean administering clutter

[mortal parcel]

GAMMA is like the Shin Megami Tensei games from the Persona franchise but for STALKER

[dense hatch]

that is a wild comparison

[mortal parcel]

GAMMA has more replayability than any of the original games

[jaunty junco]

This should be good

[lean quiver]

If by replayability you mean going from cordon to zaton to deliver 5 cigarettes

[warm linden]

several people are typing

[dense hatch]

someone send the popcorn gif

[lean quiver]

Gamma is like minecraft, just an empty sandbox with made up gameplay

[warm linden]

mod replayability is subjective, game replayability is subjective
you will not get a definitive answer

[mortal parcel]

People can play thousands of hours of Path of Exile or Warframe without reading a single line of dialog you know

[celest blaze]

To be fair only CS has the most replay value out of the trilogy due to faction war

[warm linden]

True but it is unfair to say that a single mod has the highest replayability

[celest blaze]

But that's why it's called peak sky

[warm linden]

despite it's fair amount of bugs and problems

[lean quiver]

Good thing spells or guns don´t jam in those games every 00000.0000001 seconds

[celest blaze]

To be fair though the whole trilogy is buggy af

[tough lance]

i dont need gamma, cuz i already maxxed the gamma in game settings lol ||lil joke, never played gamma, might be good, this isnt criticism||

[mortal parcel]

It doesn’t in GAMMA if you repair your gun which is like 3 clicks literally

[lean quiver]

John Gamma

[warm linden]

Including gamma

[celest blaze]

Anything stalker is unstable

[dense hatch]

gamma doesn't have minecarts so it is slightly worse

[celest blaze]

I'm hoping UE5 is better then xray engine

[tough lance]

downloading call of priyat rn, after finishing the trilogy, one chance i may use mods, but most likely no

[lean quiver]

A sorry, i didn´t bring the m4000404 spray can for cleaning the m424040042 assault riffle that was instead for the marksman m24040434030350 battle riffle

[dense hatch]

can't wait for the gamma redstone update

[celest blaze]

Play CoP vanilla @tough lance

[mortal parcel]

It’s just Type C repair kit for your Type C gun that’s all

[tough lance]

yes, finished the first 2 vanilla, and downloading cop vanilla rn

[lean quiver]

Sure buddie

[celest blaze]

@lean quiver gamma repair system its kinda easy tbh

[lean quiver]

Clutter system you mean

[celest blaze]

I play gamma aswell as a few other mods

Once you get the gamma system it's not bad at all

[mortal parcel]

You don’t have to focus on collecting gun parts if you don’t want to

[loud gate]

Ffs, can Grok come and type smth here once without people bitching about his modpack.

[celest blaze]

Fr lol

[warm linden]

He did say his modpack has the highest replayability over the trilogy, that is 100% going to upset people lol

[cyan canopy]

Bruh

[celest blaze]

I mean all freeplay mods have more replayablity

[lean quiver]

No

[warm linden]

Replayability is subjective per user

[lean quiver]

He must pay for his clutter transgressions

[celest blaze]

Clear sky has the most freedom

[dense hatch]

the clutter issue goes back like 3 mods

[celest blaze]

Soc is on rails and cop is kinda the same

[warm linden]

I feel like you and others give it far too much praise while outwaying it's clear problems

[loud gate]

Ok, his opinion, but have an intellectual discussion for once instead of 'ughhh bad bad bad'

[warm linden]

Why are you going off at me for telling you what the argument is about?

[dense hatch]

most of that replayability can seem like filler if you don't enjoy the style of gameplay being significantly slower

[loud gate]

It turns the chat into very very toxic, stop

[celest blaze]

Oh clear sky has so many issues it's a broken mess and down right a joke in terms of triple A gaming but it's still my favorite

[tough lance]

its true tho the og trilogy has no replayability, the game doesnt allow u to go back at a certain point and after finishing the game theres no point in starting a new one, if it was a complete sandbox with free choices, exploration and faction wars etc. then maybe, but as it is, the trilogy really has no replayability

[mortal parcel]

I’m actually removing a lot of unnecessary clutter, or making items useful in one way or another

[loud gate]

I did not go at you..

[celest blaze]

I'd fire whoever made clearsky

[dense hatch]

SoC has replayability beside the combat is so much fun I want more of it after each time

[warm linden]

Who are you talking to?

[mortal parcel]

Blame misery, not me

[cyan canopy]

I love SoC

[warm linden]

You seemed like it from your reaction

[tough lance]

u play this game only once, and maybe a few years later when u forget everything

[celest blaze]

Misery is also weird af for adding Mien kampf

[dense hatch]

clearly shouldn't have built on a fork of misery

[warm linden]

Misery is the root of all evil

[lean quiver]

Now we are getting somewhere, also if you are going to make weapons in bad condition jam, do that for enemies too

[celest blaze]

Misery devs are neo nazis

[mortal parcel]

Half the shit I remove or fix is due to Misery

[loud gate]

The people who instantly go into 'GAMMA bad caveman' the second Grok types anything in the chat

[storm heath]

All my friends play NLC7

[nimble cipher]

grokitach has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cyan canopy]

I wish anomaly still used CoC engine instead Misery forks

[celest blaze]

Gammas better then efp and anomaly and is tied with cotz for me

[lean quiver]

Hahahahahaha

[warm linden]

I gave misery a shot and yeah, jesus christ misery is awful lol

[mortal parcel]

Enemies reload all the time for no reason

[celest blaze]

^

[mortal parcel]

I just typed f’ing that’s it

[loud gate]

I think wrong reply, but I agree

[celest blaze]

You push enemies when they reload

[dense hatch]

wolf does not care who it is

[lean quiver]

But really the real reason i hate GAMMA is because it makes newcomers think the trilogies are not worth playing

[dense hatch]

I swear to god that bot only works 30% of the time

[celest blaze]

That's mostly youtubers

[cyan canopy]

Drewski moment

[dense hatch]

I don't think that's a gamma issue though

[mortal parcel]

Original trilogy is so dated, blame GSC for not remastering it

[dense hatch]

that's a community issue and not related to the content of the game

[loud gate]

That's not really the fault of the modpack, but of the clickbait titles you see on YT

[celest blaze]

Still playable though

[cyan canopy]

Nah stick to the XR

[lethal nymph]

hi guys i just got the trilogy on steam :3

looking for some mod recommendation for SOC

[dense hatch]

original trilogy holds up tbh

[celest blaze]

Don't mod

[mortal parcel]

Still playable, but not desirable to an entire part of the players

[lean quiver]

GSC remaster the damn trilogy already

[cyan canopy]

Play original or ZRP

[dense hatch]

ZRP if you really are worried about bugs but otherwise vanilla

[storm heath]

OGSR classic

[lethal nymph]

i just need mods that tixes the bugs and stuff really

[celest blaze]

Zrp

[dense hatch]

just zrp

[lethal nymph]

and the texture?

[celest blaze]

True

[mortal parcel]

If anything, GAMMA helps people getting into the atmosphere and then push them to try the trilogy because they want to know more

[cyan canopy]

Keep

[dense hatch]

textures are fine enough for first playthrough and keep in the style

[lean quiver]

That´s why i love True Stalker mod, is basically SoC remake

[lethal nymph]

i mean to say any texture pack u suggest

[tough lance]

tbh, i never really encountered any bugs in soc besides a few crashes, clear sky has more, but in soc theyre very rare

[loud gate]

How is that not making the game worth to play.. it's from 2007, but still holds up as an amazing game (s) even today.

[celest blaze]

Fr I've seen people start with gamma then buy the trilogy in your server

[dense hatch]

it is not at all whatsoever they have radically different gameplay and plot

[mortal parcel]

And the new gamma installer actually has a button to bring the players to the steam page of the stalker franchise

[warm linden]

It's just oh my lord

[lethal nymph]

sounds fair

[dense hatch]

I don't dislike true stalker

[loud gate]

russian slop

[dense hatch]

I simply do not enjoy it

[mortal parcel]

I agree, but many people can’t stand old janky FPS

[cyan canopy]

Theres no textures pack just play with nothing because eastern europe sense gonna bleed in yours and you will like it

[dense hatch]

many people are dorks that stuff is great

[warm linden]

once more I would rather the trilogy gain people through it's own merit rather than being carried by a mod

[tough lance]

nah the game is still decent

[dense hatch]

SoC and half life 1 are still worth playing

[lean quiver]

Why moders don´t put a modpack to remaster the trilogies

[celest blaze]

That's alot of work for free and not modders jobs

[lean quiver]

like tales of two wastelands for fallout

[mortal parcel]

Ever heard of OpenXRay Gunslinger ?

[warm linden]

Disagree, despite the atmosphere of soc it has aged poorly in regards of gunplay
for half life 1 it aged poorly in terms of level design and gunplay

[lean quiver]

No, what is it about

[dense hatch]

that's not a master it's a remake

[mortal parcel]

Google it

[warm linden]

a lot of PC's can't run that

[cyan canopy]

still can replayable

[mortal parcel]

Still the same engine

[dense hatch]

gunslinger has significantly different gameplay and mechanics

[celest blaze]

Which is crazy to me

[dense hatch]

a good remaster is mostly just a visual overhaul and a couple QoL changes

[mortal parcel]

Thankfully

[warm linden]

Plus it has problems until development can fix it

[mortal parcel]

SoC gunplay has to go

[celest blaze]

Idk I liked the trilogy mechs

[cyan canopy]

same

[warm linden]

It has less draw than later titles

[loud gate]

Why

[cyan canopy]

[dense hatch]

SoC gameplay has an actual pulse

[mortal parcel]

It was dated even at release

[tough lance]

many people who complain about stalker graphics are little kids who compare game graphics and say ''my game has more detail, the graphics are so much better'' not knowing what truly matters is the gameplay and the feeling the game gives, the theme, the story, the experience

[mortal parcel]

Same year you had FEAR

[dense hatch]

I feel like we're playing different games here the second you get a scope the combat feels great

quick, snappy, encouraging movement and accuracy

[celest blaze]

Is there a way to add fear ai to gamma ?

[dense hatch]

fear ai is mostly the level design

[celest blaze]

Ah

[warm linden]

bro
fear ai was designed around the level design and designed for indoor combat
it performs extremely poor outdoors

[celest blaze]

To be fair I haven't played fear in years lol

[dense hatch]

fear ai works because they actually worked with the people making the combat arenas

[cyan canopy]

i guess but some people seems hating HL2 for.. no reason because they saying "boring"..

[loud gate]

I really don't get it. ShoC's weapons were all pretty unique, meaning you had to master them.. every weapon had it's role, etc.

[dense hatch]

people are allowed to have bad takes

[warm linden]

It's gunplay has not aged well and the first level is boring to play through, I rather play the MMOD version

[cyan canopy]

true MMod is much better choice

[dense hatch]

mmod is great

[warm linden]

@loud gate ngl I've been talking less and less in the stalker community tbh, just so much complaining and hosility that it's exhausting to even deal with lol

[dense hatch]

it doesn't change the gameplay too radically besides just making the combat better

[cyan canopy]

Brutal DOOM 🤝 MMod

[loud gate]

Depends where you pick to have your discussion, but I agree.

[warm linden]

The stalker community is becoming less appealing to deal with, which in turn just makes me back away from the games a bit lol

[flint osprey]

don't let some idiots stop you from enjoying great games!

[loud gate]

Heh, at least STOC isn't Reddit.. yet.

[sand fiber]

i mean grok is already here

[loud gate]

Although STOC has gotten much better over the years..

[celest blaze]

To be fair games aren't the community they are separate

[solid dome]

**
WHAT HAVE I DONE WRONG, MOLIT?
WHY IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CANCELLED ME?
WAS I NOT ASKING THE RIGHT THINGS?
WHAT I HAVE DONE TO DESERVE
YOUR SILENCE?
WHY MUST I WANDER IN THE DARK
WITHOUT ANSWERS FOR MY BROTHERS,
WITHOUT PURPOSE?
TELL ME!**

[celest blaze]

People don't influence my decision to play something

[prisma goblet]

@sand fiberdo you hate clear sky the faction or the game ?

[warm linden]

I have been recommended to get stalker 2 a ton but I don't want to get it because of the massive memory needed to install the game and it's system requirements @loud gate

[sand fiber]

the game

[warm linden]

They often mesh together greatly

[prisma goblet]

[loud gate]

Neither

[celest blaze]

Use stalker 2 as a reason to update pc

[prisma goblet]

clear sky > CoP

[celest blaze]

BASED

[sand fiber]

the other way around :3

[dense hatch]

mmod is great because it doesn't make any weird design decisions that ruin it

[celest blaze]

No

[violet badger]

get out of here stalker

[lean quiver]

a 2070 super is only 200$ bucks now

[loud gate]

Oh I love CS, it's my favourite. Despite what other noobs will tell you

[dense hatch]

"only" that's like 10-15 hollow knights

[sand fiber]

this is true

[dense hatch]

people just pick really stupid hills to die on

[sand fiber]

:S

[celest blaze]

I disregard most takes unless it's pro CS or cotz

[loud gate]

well, next gen game - high requirements

[warm linden]

even then it's ram requirement is a big barrier

[celest blaze]

What's it's ram ? I never looked into it

[static compass]

Very true

[loud gate]

[celest blaze]

16 gig ?

[warm linden]

like 150GB just to get the game? that's a high asking price for any gamer lol

[tough lance]

thats not ram

[static compass]

Expectations are much higher now than they used to be, for better or worse

[warm linden]

you know how much I would have to delete just to fit it on there?

[celest blaze]

Don't most folks have atleast 2 TB storage ?

[tough lance]

its ssd, free disk space

[loud gate]

Oh, don't forget it kinda has to be on SSD necessarily

[prisma goblet]

with my internet connection it will take 2 weeks to download

[loud gate]

Because the game struggles with HDDs

[tough lance]

lol same if not worse

[celest blaze]

stalker 2 on HDD would be crazy lol

[solid dome]

Kalancha will have us require 5090 to run his crap

[flint osprey]

nobody in their right mind expects a next gen game to run well on an HDD

[solid dome]

Stand against Kalancha!

[warm linden]

That is a even bigger barrier, I would be investing a ton just to play a single game
not worth it for me tbh

[solid dome]

I do

[loud gate]

Yes, but they even mention the SSD as a MINIMUM

[solid dome]

And I will run it.

[flint osprey]

well...

[solid dome]

Wild Island

[static compass]

Down with Clear Sky?

[warm linden]

That is still really bad for me, I would have to get a brand new pc and I would need to spend thousands to play a new game
It's just not worth it

[solid dome]

[static compass]

[tough lance]

well, if ur hardware isnt good enough to play stalker 2, u can always play CoP, or install some mods over it, vanilla CoP is stil decent

[prisma goblet]

will my 1050ti, 16gigaram, 1tb hdd run it ?

[loud gate]

Probably yes.. just very poorly

[celest blaze]

You don't need to spend thousands

[prisma goblet]

minimal graphics - 5 fps maybe

[celest blaze]

Spending thousands is enthusiast tier it doesn't take much more to surpass current get consoles

[warm linden]

I live in australia, it's kind of a requirement especially for new parts

[celest blaze]

Ah fair yeah I heard it's expensive there

[flint osprey]

i remember a lot of cyberpunks problems on PS4 was that HDDs were simply too slow to handle the game, resulting in fatal errors and bugs, so i'd be really cautious with stalker 2 on anything but a SSD

[warm linden]

LIke I said, very very high asking price for entry to play a game like stalker 2
It's simply not worth it

[prisma goblet]

just buy a series s its waaay cheaper

[celest blaze]

Series S sucks so bad lol

[warm linden]

No way I'll be able to afford it anyway lol

[static compass]

Yeah, Series S is inferior to the X, I must say

[celest blaze]

Pretty sure xbox 1 X is stronger then the series S lol

[static compass]

In multiple ways

[dense hatch]

just waiting for the retro downgrade mod

[flint osprey]

not the end of the world if you don't play it on release but a few months/years later down the line, after an upgrade

[static compass]

It's a noticeable difference

[flint osprey]

don't think i would upgrade my rig for a specific game either

[warm linden]

I know it's not my problem, it's just the price for entry is getting higher and higher which I cannot afford to even compete with lol

[dense hatch]

this is why indie mostly sweeps

[prisma goblet]

I don't care, It will run stalker 2

[warm linden]

Besides that I would need to buy a larger PC case to support new hardware

It is not going to fit on my desk

[static compass]

Not on the best settings, but yes

[prisma goblet]

its better than nothing

[warm linden]

I've gotten into entire arguments over cable management and getting a 2nd monitor because it's normal

[prisma goblet]

and I don't play a lot of games these days so Series s is perfect for me

[warm linden]

basically gaming is less and less welcoming
anyway thats my rant
I'm not gonna talk here for a month, the stalker community are just too whiny

[flint osprey]

sounds pretty whiny to me :V

[static compass]

[dense hatch]

stalker fans are the worst, fallout clearly superior once again

[flint osprey]

metro chads unite

[warm linden]

Being a better person doesn't cost anything, I'm out see ya

[prisma goblet]

stalker is better when you don't interact with the community

[flint osprey]

one month already over??!?!

[tough lance]

such projection, like he wasnt the one whining to us all this time

[celest blaze]

Bro that's kinda goofy lol

[static compass]

She*

[tough lance]

u were the one whining about the component prices and we tried to be helpful instead of mocking u for not being able to afford, what did people do that u needed to call them whiny

[celest blaze]

It's valid to not spend alot for a single game I wanted Many so I dropped thousands on my pc

[static compass]

Unless you were talking about the other one lol

[flint osprey]

of course it's valid but i don't think anyone disagreed with that, no?

[static compass]

I LEVELED UP

[celest blaze]

Oh sorry I thought that's what this was about

Just came into chat

[tough lance]

should i delete soc and cs after installing cop, i dont think ill ever play them

[celest blaze]

Depends if you need the space

[tough lance]

i dont need space i got plenty

[static compass]

I won't be playing any of them once HoC comes out

[celest blaze]

Ayo??

[static compass]

[warm linden]

Think before you type for once in your life :3

[celest blaze]

Ayo

[static compass]

[static compass]

Ye

[celest blaze]

Thinking has nothing to do with coming into chat

[tough lance]

Deadly anomalies, dangerous mutants, anarchists and bandits... None of them will stop Duty on its triumphant march towards saving the planet!

stalker, join duty

[celest blaze]

Join CS today! Fight the monolith 🗣️

[dense hatch]

no

[tough lance]

we are the only faction that doesnt sell dangerous radiated artifacts to the outside world

we are the only faction that cares about the well being of whole humanity

[dense hatch]

jellyfish are actively used to cure radiation poisoning

[tough lance]

although we're too serious and boring and incapable of humour, from moral and a realistic standpoint, we're the most logical faction to join

[mortal parcel]

The PM pistol for instance were awful

Shoot > animation hides enemies and bullets go anywhere on the screen

Then you have the VSS with perfect accuracy and no recoil

[tough lance]

curing the radiation u urself brought becaue of ur greed for money doesnt seem like a plus to me

[dense hatch]

it's discreetly used in hospitals

that's literally in the first game

[tough lance]

also clear sky literally destroyed itself

[celest blaze]

Clear sky died trying to stop strelok

[tough lance]

no faction touched them

[tough lance]

they stopped him for nothing

[dense hatch]

no they didn't

[celest blaze]

Duty was to busy shooting dogs

[dense hatch]

it clearly worked considering the zone wasn't annihilated by a huge emission

[hazy helm]

yhea youre also dead and buried

'

[hazy helm]

would it be destroyed otherwise?

[celest blaze]

Clear sky was the only faction to push through limansk, deserted hospital and cnpp to try and stop strelok to stop even worse emissions

Duty was busying cosplaying ATF agents

[hazy helm]

that is the best thing about Clear Sky, that in the end ||it was all meaningless because even if Strelok got inside or not the big emission wouldve happened (bc he was close) and the events of SoC would be set up||

[dense hatch]

not sure, but considering an emission was on the way, yeah

[hazy helm]

||Clear Sky did jack shit||

[tough lance]

why did they conclude that if they stop strelok from reaching c-con the zone is gonna calm down, its almost like in pagan beliefs where theyre afraid of something so they make sacrifice to gods, we maddened the zone we should apologize kinda shit

[celest blaze]

Clear sky was the most noble

[dense hatch]

what

[celest blaze]

Freedom was barely holding their own at the barrier until we arrived

[hazy helm]

you remove the abnormality from the equation to make it run as it was, truth is, if they killed strelok before he got to the CNPP the emission wouldnt have happened, but the fact that they let him get so close sealed their fates

like

if I stick a stick of butter in a fan and the fan starts working wrong, my thought process is, the abnormality (stick of butter) is the problem and if I clean the butter off the fan it will work well again

[tough lance]

so c-con did the great emission to protect itself from strelok because we failed to protect it?

why didnt it do the same thing in soc's ending?

[hazy helm]

C-Con did the great emission to try and remove strelok who was trying to get into the CNPP

[tough lance]

he was already in cnpp long before it did the great emission, it did the great emission right before strelok passed through the last portal that leads to the room where c-con bodies reside, so u tell me, if we stopped strelok before he got so close, c-con wouldnt do the great emission as a defence mechanism, right? but why didint it do it again in soc's ending

it should have used the same thing again to take strelok out

[hazy helm]

Strelok had Psy Protection from the Scientists but the real answer would be that CS comes after SoC and so the details arent the most accurate, but the gist basically is that

(emissions were planned for SoC but never realized)

[tough lance]

oh, so the great emission wouldnt affect strelok in soc because he had the suit, but because we damaged the suit in cs, it affected him too?

[hazy helm]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Psi-helmet

[tough lance]

bro is lucky scar wasnt around during soc lol

[hazy helm]

let anomalous take me if Im wrong

[dense hatch]

CS has a lot of weird inconsistencies as a prequel

[willow spoke]

I love the fact that the psi helmet is literally just a Philips headset for customer support with the headband repeated three times and is powered by three lithium ion batteries

[dim topaz]

Clear Sky as a faction has a cool premise, lacking in achieving anything meaningful

[willow spoke]

Like when you take a close look at it you realize that the scientists really did not put any effort into making it.

Literally Soviet redneck engineering in a nutshell

[dense hatch]

yet it still works

[willow spoke]

I'm going to touch you

[dim topaz]

They rlly just put 3 duracel batteries and suction cups on a customwr support headset and called it a day 😭 what defends the wearer from psi is probably sheer will through placebo

[dense hatch]

unless you're quirrel no thanks

[willow spoke]

Actually it is actually a placebo effect

In anomaly they even tease at the fact that it is literally a placebo effect

[dense hatch]

ANOMALY

[dim topaz]

(Anomaly is not canon)

[willow spoke]

I said "even"

[static compass]

Anomaly?

[dim topaz]

I don't see how that helps but sure

[willow spoke]

Also, in combination, in collaboration, even with, etc

[dense hatch]

in a discussion of lore you don't include a mod

[willow spoke]

My apologies I'll sentence myself to the re-education camp shortly.

[dim topaz]

Idk why this is turning into a grammar lession, but that doesnt imply that what you're saying is that it's not part of the canon

[static compass]

Stalker lore go brrrr

You asked about my good luck charm?
Remember?

[willow spoke]

My good luck charm is a fallschirmjager pin memorabilia

[dense hatch]

wonder how many labs stalker 2 will have

[celest blaze]

fr

[dim topaz]

At least 1

[dense hatch]

CoP also has only one

[static compass]

It's an empty shell
It reminded me that we used to be puppets

Ok I'm done now

[celest blaze]

im excited to see the Poltergeists in stalker 2

[willow spoke]

I think we're going to have one or two of the old Labs but none of the original ones from Shadow of Chernobyl mainly because I'm pretty sure that those labs are completely bare bone to the point that no one ever visits them anymore if we're considering lore wise.

Color me surprised if that the old Labs were repurposed for some faction bases

[static compass]

I wonder if they'll have a body when they die

[celest blaze]

fr i feel we will be seeing new labs or something as havent they been picked clean of info?

[static compass]

Well, they showed X-18 in the deep dive

[willow spoke]

That would actually be pretty sick
If the old labse were repurposed for faction bases having being barren for so long most likely bandits will take over or mercenaries.

[static compass]

You can see the tub full of fruit punch in the corner

[willow spoke]

Oh so I was right they did end up repurposing the old Labs

[static compass]

There could also be new ones

[willow spoke]

That's actually very cool and smart of them that way we can see what do the old Labs look like in 2024

[static compass]

Or new doors we couldn't enter before

[willow spoke]

I actually do want to know which factions took over which labs and the entire zone

[static compass]

I don't know about that, but Freedom took Rostok from Duty it seems

Or Duty moved somewhere better and freedom moved in

[willow spoke]

Honestly if the bar is still up and running after so long then Duty has my utmost respects even though they're a bunch of roleplayers

[static compass]

Well, 100 rads was shown, but it's in Freedom control now lol

[willow spoke]

Wait really

[static compass]

And they put a second bar in the warehouse above ground

[static compass]

Briefly for like 3 seconds

In the world and locations trailer

[nimble cipher]

vapeninja has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[static compass]

Bro got Wolf'd

[willow spoke]

That makes me smile so much and it makes me laugh so hard knowing that Duty was spreading propaganda about keeping out anarchists only for the anarchist to get their main base

That's absolutely hilarious

[static compass]

Lol yeah, Freedom owns Rostok now

[willow spoke]

Forget about respect duty is just a bunch of role players in their mother's basement

Who would win stoners or larpers

[static compass]

Apparently the stoners

[lean quiver]

Duty? more like Off duty

[dense hatch]

duty is just taking L after L in the franchise

[willow spoke]

Honestly I will not be surprised if duty in the new stalker game lost so much territory because of their failed propaganda that they end up asking the main character of the game for help.

[dense hatch]

they kinda do in every game but not to a huge degree

[willow spoke]

Has Freedom ever asked for help but like on a desperate scale

[still ridge]

Honestly very likely

[willow spoke]

It feels like every time Duty or Freedom asks for help dudy is more desperate

[indigo marsh]

Yup SoC

[dense hatch]

the barrier

[indigo marsh]

And CS

In SoC with the bloodsuckers

[static compass]

Well, Ward made them sign a treaty

[indigo marsh]

And the leak in CS

[still ridge]

This one is always glitchy for me

So annoying

[dense hatch]

not as bad as the missions from skull though

those almost always break because it's so poorly placed

[hazy helm]

Clear Sky

They are getting ass blasted by the Mercs and without Scars help theyd be fucked

[willow spoke]

Wait wasn't clear sky meant to be friendly with The mercenaries

[celest blaze]

pretty sure yeah

[indigo marsh]

More like neutral

Only friendly with Scar

But Scar isn't part of the main Merc faction

[celest blaze]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Mercenaries canon says neutral so must be a mod moment if they are enemies

[indigo marsh]

He is more of a freelancers

[celest blaze]

fr he can go into alot

mercs and loners however are enemies

[dense hatch]

they're friends with them because of the space bubble stuff

[indigo marsh]

Wdym?

[celest blaze]

on the wiki says under merc relations that loners are on the enemy side aswell

[dense hatch]

mercs attack loners at pretty much every point in the series

[indigo marsh]

I thought you were talking about Clear sky

[hazy helm]

in Clear Sky, Freedom is at war with mercs, and no, Clear Sky is not friends with Mercs

never were

[willow spoke]

Is clear sky Cannon I feel like a lot of people disregard clear sky as Canon because of how bad the gameplay was and the war

[hazy helm]

Scar isnt a "normal merc" and should be seen as a single unit lik strelok

[hazy helm]

its cannon yes

[celest blaze]

??

[indigo marsh]

The game play isn't bad

[celest blaze]

any game made by GSC is canon mods however are not canon

fr CS was fun alot nicer then CoP imo

[willow spoke]

I have an RTX 3070 TI laptop and it runs clear sky at 6 FPS and crashes every 10 seconds

[indigo marsh]

I have a i5 7th gen with an iGPU and it runs perfectly fine

[hazy helm]

I have a 3070 and I run Clear Sky at 144 stable and never crashed

[indigo marsh]

Win 11?

[celest blaze]

looks like a system issue are you using the windows 11 patch ?

[willow spoke]

There's a patche?

[lean quiver]

Skill issue

[celest blaze]

yeah check the steam page go to properties and check the beta section

[willow spoke]

I will make sure your bowl of cereal has no milk anytime you put milk in it

[celest blaze]

naw i had to use it aswell and i run a pretty beastly pc CS refused to run before using the patch

CS does not like 12th gen intel cpus lol

[hazy helm]

no Stalker game does

thats why they were all pached with a beta patch for those CPUs specifically

and tahts normal for old games since the implementation of E and P cores

[celest blaze]

it caught me by suprise i was bummed about not being able to play until someone told me about the patch

[static compass]

The patch

[still ridge]

There’s something seriously wrong then

[tough lance]

is it just me or was clear sky actually better than cop in terms of weapon models, animations and gunplay, well at least we have a new map and new menu soundtrack so it can not be that bad, at least it wont be boring, also they removed low crouch which is a good plus

[still ridge]

weapon play wasn’t bad in CoP imo

[tough lance]

it feels a little simplified

it could be just me tho

[dense hatch]

I agree

[storm heath]

As simplified as possible, like the whole gameplay in principle

[dense hatch]

it feels a little worse in CoP

which isn't helped by the uniques being kinda mediocre

In terms of being interesting

[storm heath]

In CS the graphics are really better than in CoP)

[tough lance]

yeah when u max the lighting

[dense hatch]

it's strange

[tough lance]

i was surprised first time i saw it, in cop even when u max the lighting, nothing really changes

[dense hatch]

CS just looks better even on medium

I think it's to cope with the larger areas

[tough lance]

yeah, also some textures in cop are very low resolution

[indigo marsh]

Even on static or the lowest dynamic setting, it has the best lighting

[storm heath]

Nothing strange. The same textures are used, they just added an incomprehensible yellow filter to the CoP for the perception of “summer”, which spoils everything

[tough lance]

oh yeah, theres no fast travel in cop right

[indigo marsh]

Compared to the other games dynamic or static

[celest goblet]

CS is very pretty. They even made a forest level work well in X-ray

[indigo marsh]

But SoCs static is pretty atmospheric

[dense hatch]

there is, random squads can escort you

[pseudo rivet]

Clear Sky, my beloved

[tough lance]

are there factions and shit in cop cuz first impressions of the game it feels very lonely

[pseudo rivet]

Yes, Duty and Freedom just like the previous games, but you can only befriend them

[celest goblet]

CoP is a lot more empty, it's supposed to be more remote parts of the Zone

[pseudo rivet]

Yep, it's in the Center of the Zone

Despite it being so deep into the Zone, it's actually pretty populated, even by Rookies

[storm heath]

But stalkers wear newbie costumes)

[pseudo rivet]

Shows the progression of SoC to CoP, tbh

[tough lance]

accuracy kinda seems like its fixed cuz i was able to kill 3 guys in close combat without any damage

[celest goblet]

They made default accuracy a little higher than in CS

[tough lance]

like we're nose to nose in open field

[tough lance]

thats good

but it feels like they killed some of the game mechanics and made it play simpler

[pseudo rivet]

Also, CoP has much more balanced weapons compared to the previous games, so you can almost use every weapon late game

[tough lance]

or at least thats how it appeared to me

[pseudo rivet]

In CoP, what you choose is much more up to your playstyle

[indigo marsh]

The best part about CoP is that you can make it less like CoP

[storm heath]

I would like to remind you that according to the history of the game, most stalkers cannot even overcome the Garbage. An area has been discovered through the brain burner where, among other things, there is the greatest concentration of anomalies. Only seasoned stalkers know how to safely get to the center of the Zone, and not everyone is lazy.

[pseudo rivet]

We also like to call that "CoPe"

[celest goblet]

CoP was made in a very short time, so it is simpler than the others, and also not as long. But it does have the most unique side quests

[static compass]

Yeah lore wise most rookies and what not stay in Cordon and Garbage

[pseudo rivet]

Literally mentioned where? We know of Sultan's rule over the Garbage, but other than that, they can just stroll over there

[tough lance]

clear sky is the most feature rich game with the best graphics, why is it so hated then? because of story and bugs?

[pseudo rivet]

Because of bandwagons

[celest goblet]

Very buggy on release

[pseudo rivet]

People say it sucks, so people don't play it and then say it sucks despite not playing it

[celest goblet]

So it got a bad reputation

[hazy helm]

bottomline is COP was rushed, CS had preproduction and were working with past maps and had more ppl working on it meaning taht they could do way way more ideas
the development of CoP was scaled down, preproduction took half of that time meaning 6 months were used for development, it has less mechanics, it doesnt have A-Life, it focuses solely on its side quests, its writting isnt as good as CS or SOC, its lore isnt a good as the others
its a step back in many of the qualities the others excelled at with the only accolade it ahs being the side quests

[nimble cipher]

__veles has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tough lance]

true as f*ck

[pseudo rivet]

That and Vova Vist sorts out those that aren't man enough to play CS

[storm heath]

This was repeatedly mentioned in both SoC and CS. In both of these parts, the strongest groups live directly next to the garbage, where all the main life of the Zone takes place

[pseudo rivet]

We're talking about CoP though, not SoC and CS. Also, CS is an entirely different case compared to the other games

[storm heath]

I only liked the locations in CoP - only because they are larger than all that were before

[pseudo rivet]

I feel like they're a bit empty, tbh

[hazy helm]

yhea even the locations are less good, the stash system is also very dissapointing

[pseudo rivet]

Sure, they're massive, yet lack character unlike the other maps from SoC and CS

[storm heath]

Yes, at best one quest per sub location is strong)))

[tough lance]

thanks for info, why does most of the community says cop is the best of all 3

[hidden stratus]

No one does

[tough lance]

i mean its kinda opposite

[pseudo rivet]

Because they probably modded it, then go on to tell them it's great because they modded it

I mean, back in the day, people all just bought CoP to play Misery, not CoP itself

[tough lance]

maybe they just didnt play older games because cop was the latest and think its the best because it was made later without even having playing the first games

[pseudo rivet]

But yeah, most would say that SoC is the best

[hidden stratus]

Yup you got it

[static compass]

Based take

[hazy helm]

because its the most simple and most marketable
think of it like this, its easier to a less complex and friction-less game than CS or SoC, and ppl didnt want new players to feel any kind of friction when playiong lest they get turned off due to having to do smth
but frictionless also means bland or boring, CS is the opposite of frictionless, it has a lot of friction, a lot of systems that while can break make it truly unique, and look at how it was torn apart

[pseudo rivet]

Based would imply that it's an unpopular opinion that's seen as cool. Thinking SoC is the best isn't based, it's just a really good opinion

[hazy helm]

🤷‍♂️ CoP is market grade, meaning, the most blameless, the least offensive, of all 3, which is why ppl have way more opinions on it, bc its harder to have someone call you out on taht opinion

[pseudo rivet]

Now, liking Clear Sky? That's based

[random bridge]

hry yall i w
am in this underground and i couldn't activate my NV or light

[tough lance]

also when the voice and subtitles dont match, it confuses me, why didnt they make it the same at the beginning intro

[random bridge]

and nkw i am sering a fat little man with a robe

[celest goblet]

SoC set the bar for everything. After all that is why they said it was the standard they had to beat in the deep dive

[tough lance]

i was unsure which one to follow

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds like a Burer. Are you playing Call of Pripyat or a mod?

[random bridge]

yea

[static compass]

What a way to describe the burer lol

[random bridge]

i cant aim my scope at him because it keeps moviung up

[tough lance]

subtitles had better use of words and the voice says something else so u cant even follow the subs properly

[pseudo rivet]

Although this sounds like a Controller

[still ridge]

Naw Jupiter is good

[hazy helm]

prob a mod

[celest goblet]

I like Pripyat I just wish there was more to do once you get there

[pseudo rivet]

Real

[indigo marsh]

The best map in CoP

[dense hatch]

exactly

[still ridge]

12 year old who just plays anomaly

not even joking

[pseudo rivet]

Honestly? The area around Jupiter is a bit mid, but Jupiter itself is pretty cool. Just wish it was more exploreable / more of a threat

[indigo marsh]

I think this is anomaly

[tough lance]

subs say year 2010 voice says 2011, for the same thing, in beginning intro

[pseudo rivet]

Figured

[storm heath]

Yes, i'm....

[hazy helm]

the best map for CoP is Pripyat ngl

the chapter itself

feels the most like the other games

[random bridge]

am i tweaking or why is trhere two burers???

[pseudo rivet]

Bro is tweaking fr

[tough lance]

limanks in cs was super fun, just between agroprom and limanks it can get a lil bit annoying

[pseudo rivet]

Feel like CoP is more combat-oriented, simply because the other maps don't really offer any enemies. I usually stick around Jupiter post-game

[random bridge]

someone hold my hand and tell me im not geeking rn

[pseudo rivet]

Sure, you're Greeking fr dawg

[hazy helm]

CoP is the opposite of combat oriented, it is combat retardant, it actively makes combat the easiest of the 3 and has you do the least of it

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah

Still, IL 86, my beloved

[still ridge]

Naw G

[celest goblet]

CoP is about exploring the areas mostly. Not a lot of fighting, overpowered rewards early if you search thoroughly

[tough lance]

an94 my beloved (i don remember what it was called in the game, ac96?)

[celest goblet]

I'm pretty excited to see what the Yaniv/Jupiter area is like in HoC though. There's a lot you can do with those locations

[pseudo rivet]

Sorry, I just think that's the best designed location in the area around Jupiter

[hazy helm]

CoP is about being fed dialogue and completing side quests

taht is the entire experience

that is the only thing it has to offer you

[pseudo rivet]

It's basically just a step above being the kind of sandbox CoC is

[random bridge]

iam fighting two burers and got jump scared, is that normal

[still ridge]

Pripyat-1 is one of the best missions in the entire franchise

[tough lance]

Obokan/AC96/2 (AN-94)

[storm heath]

What's the point of exploring locations when you can immediately purchase some of the best equipment? Thirty minutes of play and you are a millionaire. All location exploration comes down to small quests

[pseudo rivet]

If you're 12, then no, that's more like 7 year old behavior tbh

[still ridge]

and once you get to Pripyat it gets much better

Still underdeveloped, but it has a lot of good moments

[pseudo rivet]

Or get it totally for free from the stashes

[hazy helm]

4 year old

[random bridge]

howmany burers are there supposed to be btw?

[pseudo rivet]

Legit don't even know what you're playing and where you are

[still ridge]

There are 5 in lab X-8

[hazy helm]

brother, you are not playing stalker, we wouldnt know

[celest goblet]

Burers are fairly uncommon generally but idk without knowing where you are

[still ridge]

Go to the anomaly discord server lol

[random bridge]

alr tanks

[still ridge]

Pripyat-1 and the Bloodsucker mission are goated

[celest goblet]

Depends a lot on what mod you are playing though

[still ridge]

They’re playing anomaly

[celest goblet]

If you're playing OP-2 you will learn to kill several along with a few chimeras on your morning commute

[still ridge]

They’re playing baby’s first stalker mod

[celest goblet]

Ah

[pseudo rivet]

I would like to suggest playing an "X weapon(s) only" run and then kill the Bloodsuckers in the lair

I did a Vintar BC and PB-1s only run and managed to kill them all, although I did use grenades as well

[hazy helm]

Complete?

[still ridge]

For me, Pripyat-1 is like top 3 missions in the entire series.

[pseudo rivet]

Misery after Complete?

[still ridge]

Point is CoP still has a lot of moments that make it better, even if it lacks some of the things that made CS and SoC good

[granite mortar]

If you mean the picture in #📸┃screens_and_videos
Then I wouldnt use word "fight"
More like "bully" since you got g_god on

[random bridge]

i ampeaking

[still ridge]

I’m losing my mind

[random bridge]

i have no idea how people fight those things

[pseudo rivet]

Calm down, he's just a 2 year old boy, don't be too harsh on him

[still ridge]

Bro is playing anomaly on debug mode

maybe you should play the originals and find out

[random bridge]

im tryna finish the game before playing the actual games

[still ridge]

[random bridge]

its hard being hard

[pseudo rivet]

"I am poor, so I play fake Sdalgar"

[celest goblet]

It requires a specific strategy, which you can learn from observing their behavior in combat

[indigo marsh]

Trve sdalger is free

[pseudo rivet]

Leave

[still ridge]

Anomaly is FREE!!!

[indigo marsh]

Skip dirty ground

[still ridge]

Guess I won’t play the games that are actually good

[random bridge]

is anomaly pirating the game

[still ridge]

no

Because it’s not the game

[pseudo rivet]

Misery isn't free, so that automatically makes it better because it actually has a paywall

[random bridge]

isnt it based on the game tho

[pseudo rivet]

No

[random bridge]

noway.

[indigo marsh]

RttN has the same thing but it's standalone

[still ridge]

Rttn has that unplayable weapon clipping though

[random bridge]

ive been playing a bunch of trash glued toghter then??

[still ridge]

CORRECT

[storm heath]

Anomaly?

[still ridge]

He’s becoming self aware

[random bridge]

shit,..

itz so joeover

[random bridge]

yeps

[celest goblet]

Anomaly lacks a proper difficulty curve or story to guide you through the experience and have you increase your skill and knowledge

[indigo marsh]

Anomaly is not even the best Freeplay mod

[random bridge]

whats the best then

im still broke till winter sales, or autuum if thzey have that

[storm heath]

Snake catcher for CS...

[pseudo rivet]

Already amnesiac before playing as an actual amnesiac. Marked One would be proud

[indigo marsh]

That is very subjective

Depends on the person and their system

[dense hatch]

try op-2

[indigo marsh]

🍲

[dense hatch]

it's close to the originals

[celest goblet]

When the autumn sales roll around the trilogy will likely be very cheap, they usually go on 75% discount

[indigo marsh]

It's 75% on GoG last time I checked

[celest goblet]

Perhaps there will even be one sooner to promote the sequel

[storm heath]

Most “graphical” mods for Stalker involve adding textures doubled in size, losing quality and adding a huge amount of sharpening. I don’t know why they do this, but this is the main reason why the mod requires more resources.

[still ridge]

you can get all the games for like 15 bucks when they’re on sale lol

they’re not expensive

[indigo marsh]

Just checked and it's not on sale

[celest goblet]

SoC/CoP will be $5 each, CS will be $2.50 most likely

A real steal

[still ridge]

Yeah but isn’t there a bundle on steam

[indigo marsh]

I got it for 10 (minus tax) with the stalker bundle

[still ridge]

Yeah 10 dollars for all games in the steam bundle when it’s on sale @random bridge

You should get it before playing other slop mods

[celest goblet]

Yes the bundle will be $10

[indigo marsh]

The vanilla SoC story line is a small part of OP

[celest goblet]

It's closer to vanilla gameplay than anomaly

[somber hawk]

or buy a steam key

[solid dome]

Sektoras is that your alt?

[pseudo rivet]

You're not the only one who thought that, seen how similar the names are

[finite dragon]

what happens after we finished all the game

back to rot cycle?

[naive fog]

HoC mod time

[celest blaze]

id prob go back to cotz/gamma until the dlcs and mod scene comes

[finite dragon]