⭐┃nospoilers_general

[still ridge]

It seems like LR-300, F2000 and L85 were all removed

We didn’t know the spas 12 was in the game until the world trailer

[old jungle]

yes

[wide flume]

Fish😢

[indigo marsh]

[old jungle]

SGI-5k as well

[still ridge]

No more FT-200M my beloved

😭

[static compass]

It occurred to me that there are two bars in Rostok now assuming I've got the positions right

[old jungle]

mods will bring them back

[old jungle]

yes, I will talk about that soon

[indigo marsh]

LR 300

[still ridge]

Surely there are more 5.56mm weapons too, other than GP37, Kharod, and AR416

[hidden stratus]

Is the game set around the end of the year? Or were the Christmas light just decoration?

[still ridge]

originals had Trs-301, IL-86, Ft-200M, Sgi-5k

[half bone]

Anomalous dugout on his way to create a one hour video about the developer deep dive as soon as possible

[still ridge]

Decorations

[old jungle]

we don't know yet

[old jungle]

1st part is set to be around 40 minutes

[static compass]

I'd say just bar decor

[half bone]

zamnnnnn. Ok

[hidden stratus]

Would be cool if the game had a seasons kinda thing like Sons of the Forest for example.

[static compass]

Cool thought, but may be hard to implement

[hidden stratus]

It sounds hard to implement

[tough lance]

im not sure but the crashes might be happening due to old games running on single core, so on more modern multi-core hardware they crash, if u go to task manager -> details, select the game, right click, set afffinity, disable all core and enable cpu0, this might fix the issue and might now im not sure

never tried

[half bone]

The OG X-Ray engine has some multithreaded aspects

[tough lance]

its not a very old game so that might not be the issue, the game itself might be the issue

[finite dragon]

Internal structure of the LR-300 is too complicated, designer could have designed a buffer tube adapter so that the stock could be folded as well as not having to change the original design of the gun. Trigger feel of FN F2000 is very unpleasant. And then I'm not sure which L85 you're talking about, L85A1 is absolutely shit, A2 is much better.

[half bone]

A lot of people thing it's a single cored engine, but they're just clueless

[tough lance]

cuz the problem i spoke of mostly happens with games between 1999-2003

[half bone]

Those are the types of people to edit 1 texture in the game, and call themselves a modder

Same goes for the reshade guys, it literally takes no effort

[finite dragon]

So modders can never be game devs

[dense hatch]

I mean

[half bone]

? I said that the people who only change a texture in the game call themselves a modder, even though they're not

It takes 0 effort

[dense hatch]

there's a difference between an actual modder and someone who made a weapon slightly darker

I think Bethesda actually picked up a couple modders recently

[finite dragon]

ik

[static compass]

A couple of the Fallout London modders

[half bone]

Mapping is different

it works very differently in x-ray than from other engines

I can say that are are like, a thousand or so mappers for stalker

Ever...

[valid summit]

I hope shotguns get a buff in stalker 2

Slugs literally hit like a 50 bmg but takes like 3 rounds to kill a bandit to the chest

[hidden stratus]

Wydm a buff, they were great in the past games. You just had to be dick to butt type of distance to the enemies head.

[valid summit]

Slugs need to be slugs

[half bone]

Slugs are op in the og trilogy

It can 1 tap through literally everything if you get headshots, that is...

[valid summit]

Yea headshots it should be a 1 shot to the torso

[half bone]

anyway

I want to finish the scene geometry for my level as quickly as possible, then focus on the spawn elements

[dense hatch]

neat

[dense hatch]

stop using slugs

use the shotgun AS A SHOTGUN

[static compass]

They've got that cheeki breeki armor

[half bone]

12.7x108mm moment

[dense hatch]

then use another gun

like anything at all besides a shotgun

or just shoot them multiple times

[solid cosmos]

There has got to be a way to kill these 3 poltergeist in the red forest, in the mine.

[still ridge]

I remember that’s what caused me to stop playing CS the first time LMAO

I was trying to get that grenade launcher lol

[solid cosmos]

I didn't even know a grenade launcher was down there. I want the artifact lmfao

[still ridge]

The bathroom with the fruit punch anomaly

[solid cosmos]

Do they take damage from grenades?

[still ridge]

Not sure

[dense hatch]

aren't you supposed to just not go down there and the stuff is just bait

[still ridge]

No you can do it

It’s possible

[still ridge]

Try going down the ladder a bit and then going up

so you can shoot them from a safer area

[solid cosmos]

Got them, now how to get out...

[rare kraken]

im so excited for stalker 2

I cant wait 2 more weeks, I need it now!! 🤣

although im glad its even coming out in the first place due to the military conflicts

[solid cosmos]

Oh the path opens up at the top when you kill them.

[finite dragon]

You want to cum but you can't.

lmao

[dense hatch]

HOW DID THAT GET BY

stupid bot

[still ridge]

Do we know who the guy at 2:46 is in the new trailer?

I don’t think it’s richter

[rare kraken]

lol seriously, im edging so hard right now

[finite dragon]

That's even more of a no-no.

[rare kraken]

im gonna explode upon seeing my first female stalker

[finite dragon]

People at this time of the year are very erotic when they're tied up.

ik

[still ridge]

What is going on

😭

[rocky trellis]

At this point mutants no longer seem like a bad option

• Some freedomer, probably

[still ridge]

flaming snork so erotic!!!!

[opaque vortex]

Really hope we atleast get a 5 min trailer on a life, showing how different groups migrate and take over areas maybe!

[rare kraken]

free dome?

[wide flume]

𝓢𝓷𝓸𝓻𝓴𝓼👅

[solid cosmos]

Would be neat if they did a trailer up until gamescom

They probably won't cause that's a lot, but would still be neat.

[finite dragon]

I'd actually like to see two members of the same gender freedom fall in love with each other, especially the rope.

best to use drugs.

[wide flume]

I don’t like this

[sly matrix]

This chat needs the monolith...

[wide flume]

It’s to 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂

Purge this shit

[finite dragon]

Love knows no gender.

[static compass]

We need a 10 minute trailer of that one guy saying "I said come in, don't stand there"

[wide flume]

Oh I’m fine with that

[fluid abyss]

I can’t believe nobody is mentioning the new British mutant (the fat one that holds up Skif after he enters a room)

[wide flume]

We’re just getting to 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 in chat

[static compass]

I need more roles, how to get more roles

[wide flume]

No

[dense hatch]

there's already the duty and freedom couple

[granite mortar]

Yes
Shulga and Loki

[worn oar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/s/cCuEUpYXaq
Ig I managed to flip the table on haters just by pointing up the reverb detail
I never thought that reddit comment section can be this positive before

[static compass]

Thought that was the pool room at first glance, but alas it wasn't

[bleak zinc]

I don't like 3h cutscenes thing, especially cinematic during combat that's not stalker but metro or far cry, I prefered how they do this in old stalker games you go to house you just hear bloodsucker scream and you on your own, seems like in s2 you lose control and watch cinematic instead of playing the game.
And 3h cinematic in 10h game if it is 10h seems like to much

[static compass]

It's supposed to be 40 hours

I think that's what the devs said

[bleak zinc]

then should be fine i guess

[static compass]

For example, Red Dead 2 is 50 hours long with 19 hours of cutscenes

[bleak zinc]

yee but its red dead not stalker

[static compass]

I'm just saying, 3 hours isn't as much as you think when the story takes 40 hours to beat

It'll just be cutscenes for major story moments mostly

As far as I can guess

[bleak zinc]

i think they meant side quest to not only main story

btw yellow paint is terrible, insult to player inteligence do really game testers are that bad

[static compass]

@loud gate didn't they say the game takes about 120 hours to complete 100%

Plus you can't see everything on one playthrough

[bleak zinc]

sure i just ythink about what they said and show

I bought game anyway its probably good I just hope its stalker not 3a slop

[static compass]

Everyone who played the demo says it feels like Stalker

[slender crown]

hello stalkers

[naive fog]

Hi

[static compass]

[violet badger]

hello merc
please don't turn stalkers into worm food

that is rude

[rocky trellis]

one of the saddest part of S.T.A.L.K.E.R is that usually you do not get to use all the fancy gear you collect for all that long... I mean, at least not for a solid purpose like doing missions and stuff

That amount of hours should fix that

[wide flume]

I wonder if we see new game+

[dense hatch]

have you tried simply skipping the cutscene

smh

[bleak zinc]

huh but its in game engine not cinematic like press F to stab snork, you cant skip that

[dense hatch]

yeah you can moron, you'll probably need the yellow tape tbh

[rocky trellis]

Just skip game, ez

[dense hatch]

TRUE

[sly matrix]

Something something winning move is not to play something something?

[slender crown]

if the pay is good.... why not

[dense hatch]

that was a good movie

[still ridge]

How can you NOT want a higher quality game

The cutscenes are epic too

motion scanning and shit

[violet badger]

i could edit my message to make your message look way out of context

but i won't

[rocky trellis]

Within reason, would rather not turn every game into a Sony movie game

[static compass]

I'm excited to see the cutscenes personally

Everything we've seen so far looks great

Especially that Snork cutscene

[still ridge]

They’re such high quality

[static compass]

I'm wondering if our first encounter with each major mutant will have a cutscene

For example, the bloodsucker scene in the original reveal, the snork, etc.

[slender crown]

you may

[celest blaze]

It's gonna hard af

[hardy bear]

Just hope the story is good so the cutscenes feel that much more impactful

[celest blaze]

I got faith

[mortal parcel]

There never was a gamma subreddit

Also you forgot when True Stalker got released and 90% of the posts where about that mod for few months

[tough lance]

met with freedom guys in dark valley in clear sky, theyre cool guys tbh, not as bad as i thought

[daring lagoon]

I have been waiting for the game to come out for so long I pre ordered it the moment it went up for pre order

So to all my fellow stalkers I wish you luck I hope we meet and that we can get along

[mortal parcel]

That’s in the sense of “you are a shit random stalker trying to survive in the Zone”. And not really “I’m the super hero of the Zone and everything revolves around me”

[celest blaze]

True you're not the protagonist in gamma you're just a stalker

Hell only strelok and scar felt like main characters cop felt super forgettable

[solid cosmos]

Yes there was lol. It was created and never used. Maybe not by you. There also was an anomaly sub that was abandoned for whatever reason and now is pretty much locked.

You probably could request the gamma sub since it has no mods.

r/stalkergamma and r/stalker_anomaly

[celest blaze]

I wonder if there is a r/callofthezone

[mortal parcel]

Oh shit I did not know

[hardy bear]

I love how the character setup for 2 seems to be a sort of blend of them both.
You are an ex-monolith, but only one of many, with some really interesting potential for internal conflict and character exploration. Sure you're a military guy, but based on the trailer, your memory is wiped

[mortal parcel]

I know about the r/gamma and people posting stalker gamma issues there lol

[mortal parcel]

Are we even sure we are ex monolith

[hardy bear]

Fairly sure, what with the strider trailer and the flashback scene with the rpg

[mortal parcel]

We know that one of the protagonist, Faust is an ex monolith

[solid cosmos]

You can probably claim r/stalkergamma cause it has no mods and is in restricted mode so nobody can post. It'll probably be locked/banned soon if nobody takes it.

[mortal parcel]

Tbh I have no will to make a Reddit sub

Because it means maintaining it

Or I need to recruit people to do it

[solid cosmos]

Take the mods you have from the discord and make them the moderators of the sub.

[old jungle]

I don't think it's the case but we will see

[hardy bear]

Went back to the trailer just to double check, that's how I interpreted it. With the whole 'I didn't choose that path' thing, I took that to mean Skif somehow volunteered to join

Can i just say though how beautiful the audio and visuals are on that trailer

[old jungle]

I think Strider is referring to siding with the SIRCAA but yeah it remains unclear for now. And yes, this trailer was awesome

[marsh dome]

Skif's nature is grey and we see him very close to the Monolith, of Faust or Strider. I wouldn't be surprised to see him discover that he's an ex Monolith, and that he too must choose sides.

[hardy bear]

That's kind of how I hope it goes. While simply having ex-monolith friends is a great setup, having skif be one could open up some neat character opportunities that I'd love to see explored

[lime oasis]

Does anyone know if STALKER 2 will run on Linux?

[solid cosmos]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say like most things, no.

[lime oasis]

"...most things?" These days it's the majority of games that work with it.

[dense hatch]

please do

[lime oasis]

Would be a shame if true. Deal-breaker for me

[still ridge]

It’s not. Confirmed by GSC

[solid cosmos]

I mean it's also not going to be on mac, so.. I'd assume that no, you can't play it on Linux. I don't even know what new games you can play on linux.

[old jungle]

makes sense

[marsh dome]

Besides, if the vision in the Strider trailer was indeed Strider's, what's the point of having an old Strider flashback? I don't see the point? Why would Skif need and have access to Strider's flashback?

[lime oasis]

The majority of steam games work on Linux: https://www.protondb.com/

[hardy bear]

Just had a thought, given that the game is now open world without the instanced cells, do you reckon they'll remove the ambient sounds that come from non existent entities, and only have them actually play be real entities?

[lime oasis]

Well, I've complained enough about it perhaps to stimulate the appropriate re-compilation 🙂

I'm not running a windows box. Nuh-uh.

The fact that it's available on GoG gives me some hope. It seem the devs have some mind to such things.

[solid cosmos]

Im not seeing anything on that list that is terribly new.

[dense hatch]

lore maybe

[still ridge]

I think the implication for that trailer is that skif helps Faust reestablish the monolith and instead of following strider

[dense hatch]

god I hope so

the invisible screams and animal shouts got annoying after a while

[stable pivot]

i am so happy

[solid cosmos]

Why don't you ask in #📜┃ask-gsc

[lime oasis]

Just did.

[stable pivot]

i finished transforming my AKM-74/2 into a sniper rifle 🙂

[dense hatch]

CS?

[hollow basin]

cant wait to take the week off when the game launches

[grim palm]

But they won't answer me if we can harvest and cook snork fingers

[lilac lily]

I hope not, some of the spooky ones really add to the atmosphere

[dense hatch]

the first time

not the 18th

[still ridge]

The whole theory comes from the strider trailer

But people infer the wrong thing

The implication is different than what people commonly say

[hardy bear]

Didn't mind them in the games as it gives life to areas beyond the boundaries, but since there are no boundaries here it might mess up your senses, as stuff like gunfire and screams are now scenes you can theoretically visit

[old jungle]

In my opinion the sentence "We used to be puppets" does not refer to being Monolith, but rather being used as pawns by the SIRCAA (at least in Sikf's case)

[dense hatch]

hearing the same scream again and again is the main issue, it'd be better with some actual variation

[grim palm]

Or military

[still ridge]

We only know of the military in a flashback

[hardy bear]

That might be why I imagined something else, cause I took it to mean monolith

[old jungle]

I doubt it. It feels like Skif has never been to the Zone before the game begins

[worn oar]

Not entirely actually! Him being a protagonist is basically one pov

[lilac lily]

Make every area have its own soundscape, not impossible just because the game is seamless now

[grim palm]

Doesn't have to have been for zone military. Considering what he is giving over is very symbolic of a military service

[stable pivot]

what is better:5.45x39mm or 5.56x45mm

[gray matrix]

That’s valid. So they allowed you to make a vid about a small portion of the leaked content right? And it only applied to the first leak with concept art, not the second one with the build, am I correct?

[dense hatch]

gp37 sweeps tbh

[old jungle]

oh okay I get that

[gray matrix]

Yeah but there is still content in there that has not been officially published even now, a year and a half later

So I am surprised GSC just allowed Tommy to cover it

[grim palm]

And if Skif has not been to the zone before the games begin. It's even less likely to be SIRCAA, as they would have to operate on the zone to study anomalies and artifacts, as those things loose all power outside the zone, if we are to believe the deep dive

[old jungle]

the cutscene most likely takes place towards the end of the game

[hardy bear]

I initiallytook his lack of knowledge to be caused by him being released from the monolith, but I realised shortly after that doesn't really work out

[old jungle]

it does not matter who Skif was before, what matters is what choices the player will make in the story

[worn oar]

What you saw is post c-con destruction. A flashback of some sort. Faust was likely a normal monolith member and after his connection with the rock got severed, he fell into a state of confusion and chose to keep his faith. He then became a leader and led the faithful against the unfaithful, known as the noon.

Their relation does not seem entirely hostile to me. At least not from Faust's side.

[still ridge]

I think we probably have to choose between Strider and Faust, which tbh is an easy choice. Fanatical cultist vs brainwashing abolitionist

[worn oar]

Yep

[hardy bear]

Definitely, but I'm still keen to learn about his connections and motives as hinted at in the strider trailer

[worn oar]

We will

And that's why I said we can not call him a protagonist since it's a pov thing

[old jungle]

I think his conexions he will make during the game. For example, the Deep Dive revealed how Skif will meet Faust for the first time.

[hardy bear]

as well as the folks around the campfire

[grim palm]

Very likely. But I also think it's very personal exchange there.

"it does not matter who Skif was before, what matters is what choices the player will make in the story"

Absolutely. And this might be one of them. We don't know if being involved with SIRCAA is a choice or something Skif will have to do either. Sorta like working for freedom or duty on the original perhaps, or it's a forced narrative

[old jungle]

Speaking of which it's weird we've not seen them ever since 2021. Some people theorized they may have been cut...

[hardy bear]

Yeah I was wondering a few months back whether any of that stuff still exists

I want to see the dancing guy again

[old jungle]

We'll see, though I feel like you'll be able to make many choices and help whoever you want

[grim palm]

That would be the stalker way

[wet lark]

Hopefully stalker 2 story is what dying light 2s story should have beem

[still ridge]

Dying light 2 choices matter

It better not be that

[grim palm]

I do wish to see more human side of A-life

[still ridge]

We’ll see at gamescom probably

[grim palm]

As well as snork finger cooking

[old jungle]

seriously you should stop with that

[grim palm]

Snork fingers taste like tuna. It's addictive

[wet lark]

They do? I heard that what they told us dying light 2 would be story wise is not what it was

[tough lance]

📣📣📣 DEADLY ANOMALIES, DANGEROUS MUTANTS, ANARCHISTS AND BANDITS... NONE OF THEM WILL STOP DUTY ON ITS TRIUMPHANT MARCH TOWARDS SAVING THE PLANET. THE WORLD FEARS THE ZONE'S EXPANSION, JOIN DUTY AND SAVE THE INNOCENT. STALKER, PROTECT THE WORLD FROM THE ZONE... JOIN DUTY. 📣📣📣

[old jungle]

It's canibalism

[grim palm]

Maybe that's why my hands are shaking so bad

[still ridge]

It’s a meme

[wet lark]

Oh i c

[dense hatch]

why don't they show up as stalkers killed them

[old jungle]

they are not stalkers

[still ridge]

They said “choices matter” for the story but it was like 2 choices for everything and wasn’t what they hyped it up to be

[dense hatch]

neither are the military yet they show up there

they're mutants, no longer human, so it ISN'T cannibalism

[old jungle]

[hidden stratus]

Why is cannibalism bad again?

[old jungle]

stop justifying such an act

[hardy bear]

I'm not really expecting stalker 2 to be much different.

I've yet to see a game outside of BG3 tackle choices in a meaningful way. If anything I'd expect something like a dishonored chaos system and a few big choices near the end and that's about it

[half bone]

The first game was better

[wet lark]

Yeah I meant itd be kinda cool to have something kinda like what they were promising, not so expansive but still a story where your choices matter

[hardy bear]

as always, I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see it being feasible with this large of a game

[half bone]

You can literally intimidate hostiles if you aim at them

If you have no ammo, they'll react to that

[vernal magnet]

yea it was mainly the concept art stuff. when the leaked build came out i didnt even ask to cover it because even i thought that wasn't right and was way too much

[still ridge]

Stalker 2 choices matter: side with religious zealot vs man who doesn’t want people to be brainwashed again

[wet lark]

Theyre a mutated form of humans and they still somewhat resemble human so its still cannibalism

[still ridge]

Like… I don’t see any reason to side with Faust

[vernal magnet]

He's handsome

[still ridge]

Unless you’re trying to do an “evil” play though

[old jungle]

I think it might be more complicated than that. Also it's probably not the only choice to make.

[still ridge]

Morally speaking I don’t think there’s any reason to side with SIRCAA/Faust

[mortal parcel]

Thanks for the heads up !

[wet lark]

Yeah true, they give you the illusion of choice but its like asking if you want a spoiled apple vs a ripe apple

[still ridge]

Certainly not

[hidden stratus]

Hopefully it won't be a scenario of choosing the lesser evil

[wet lark]

Yeah sure you can choose whichever, but its an illusion because obviously youre not gonna choose the spoiled apple

[still ridge]

I think they’re both part of noon?

[vernal magnet]

i would hope the plot has some nuance to it

[old jungle]

I'm sure it will have

[worn oar]

Nope! Faust is monolith. That pendant he wears confirms it

[grim palm]

The only choice is to nom snork fingers

[vernal magnet]

thats certainly my bet. i doubt gsc will go with a cliche choice structure

[still ridge]

I mean strider is presumably good natured, helping former monolithians regain their true selves, and trying to stop the seemingly nefarious SIRCAA plans

[worn oar]

I believe that we will experience plenty of plottwists and unpredictable moments. We can expect as much considering what we had in the trilogy

[vernal magnet]

i think you doing Faust a disservice

[still ridge]

Monolith weren’t exactly morally ambiguous lol

[vernal magnet]

Faust is extremely in distress in the deep dive footage. I dont think waking up from the Monolith is going to be the easy to make choice. Much like the debate of how to treat the Noosphere after the events of SOC

[grim palm]

I might have shaky hands, but it's you who don't know tasty nommy snork fingers

[still ridge]

idk. I’m ridin with strider the first time around

[vernal magnet]

The correct answer

[still ridge]

[vernal magnet]

He is also handsome, its a good choice

[worn oar]

Strider's relation with SIRCAA is really unclear. I personally believe that the institute is an enemy to all, even ward, thought it's a lapdog faction to them.

[still ridge]

I think SIRCAA is probably its own choice too

[old jungle]

I'd say don't make a decision until you've seen more of what actually happens in-game.

[still ridge]

Strider/Faust, but also SIRCAA/Ward and so on

[vernal magnet]

I think the Ward will be in opposition to Siirca perhaps

[worn oar]

What if strider and Faust are just simply two paths of many?

[vernal magnet]

maybe they are affiliated with Problesk

[still ridge]

Depending on player choice, I think so too.

[worn oar]

We can expect a neutral path, and other ones guided by different factions or important NPCs that are not exactly reprinting specific factions

[vernal magnet]

im so curious to see the extent in outcome from player choices

[grim palm]

I like Strider... But I always play as a helpful stalker to loners. So that's my first play through right there

[still ridge]

I always fw’d strider as a character pretty heavy, that’s why

Want to see more of his story

[worn oar]

Unlikely so!
The best guess atm is that they are their pawns, but not bound by trust or loyalty.

[sand fiber]

I've yet to see a game outside of BG3 tackle choices in a meaningful way

play any immersive sim / RPG ever

[vernal magnet]

Problesk has to have some weight and power to throw around if they oppose Siirca, i would assume they have influence through a major zone faction, one that happens to be new.....

[worn oar]

All information of sircaa suggests that they are their own friends, and betrayal is not a strange notion to them.

[vernal magnet]

if not, then i would assume maybe Skif is a double agent or something

now theres a twist lol

[worn oar]

I agree, But it's not the ward

[wet lark]

Which games do you have in mind

[worn oar]

Perhaps noon? Or free stalkers

[vernal magnet]

Nobody else in the zone is powerful enough to grandstand as an acting authority like the Ward though

[hardy bear]

Only immsims I've played are dishonored and thief, haven't played much of the genre yet

[grim palm]

Perhaps Duty and Freedom

[still ridge]

Don’t think so

[vernal magnet]

they have their own business going on and it definitely feels like Duty shrunk over time, after all, they lost the Rostok

[sand fiber]

try Deus Ex (2000), it's peak :3

[still ridge]

Military maybe

[vernal magnet]

Unatco?

[mortal parcel]

Try Dwarf Fortress

(Kidding of course)

[hardy bear]

Got that ready to play already 😎
Just gotta find the right time as I've got far too many games to play at once

[worn oar]

True, but you know how things are in the zone. PROBLESK are shadow stalkers. They are not known and stealthy. They try to sabotage sircaa affairs without direct comfortation. (ARG)

[still ridge]

Doubt skif is a double agent

[worn oar]

Skif is krezzin

[still ridge]

Deggy was also kind of a double agent

[mortal parcel]

Skif is Strelok, amnesia again

[vernal magnet]

yea but those tactics are always preferable against Siirca. or id doubt they would be fighting in the bounds of the Zone.

[still ridge]

So I don’t think they’ll do the same thing

[grim palm]

Faction war has always been a shifting area of control. It feels like duty has shrunk, as we haven't really seen the extension of what's happened. And the ward does come of as someone with more power in the zone. But it might not be so. We might read into the trailers wrong or being fed misinformation by GSC

[vernal magnet]

the Map certainly shows that the Ward has pull in the zone

from the collector edition

[sand fiber]

literally any
entire immersive sim philosophy is making choices impactful to gameplay&narrative, most of (good) RPGs also take your choices into account with different paths and whatelse

play Fallout, dunno :S

[mortal parcel]

Anomaly fans when they will play STALKER 2 : but but but where’s Clear Sky ?!

[worn oar]

True. Either way, I don't see any chance for the ward to be an ally to Problesk, at least unless they are secretly against sircaa.

[wet lark]

You said that and I immediately thought of fallout 4💀

[grim palm]

I'm not so certain on that

[vernal magnet]

Ask yourself what the Ward stands to benefit aiding Problesk against Siirca

[worn oar]

The ARG made me believe that the ward as a faction is simply directed by sircaa

[sand fiber]

omagaaad Strelok is now thriceborn, Oblivion Lost is REAL

[mortal parcel]

Underrail

[worn oar]

Hmm I kinda think nothing.

[hardy bear]

Dishonored has huge choice in gameplay, but I was mostly talking about narrative choice which is what I thought we were referring to

[worn oar]

Perhaps only to gain total control over the zone

[vernal magnet]

at a minimum, it confirms they hold a significant amount of landmass, which requires a sizeable infantry size to hold

[worn oar]

I don't really trust slogans like the police of the zone and blah blah

[vernal magnet]

The Ward wants control of the zone, What does Siirca also want?

[leaden basin]

Why did ukraine try to classify the exclusion zone during the stalker universe?

[sand fiber]

well ye, narrative choices are a thing aswell, ever tried Disco Elysium?

[vernal magnet]

exactly

[finite dragon]

due to tourists coming as zombies in 2001

or something like that

[worn oar]

It's just some sort of political discourse aimed to manipulate.

[vernal magnet]

Siirca and the Ward are configured to be against eachother depending on motives and circumstances

[sand fiber]

dependsssss
we don't have much release outside-world lore, we can only speculate

[finite dragon]

all i know is had to related to tourists being harmed

[leaden basin]

Also, cant a stalker leak his experience during the zone?

Because outsiders don’t even know a lot about the zone.

[sand fiber]

in builds it was a clusterfuсk honestly

[worn oar]

Sircaa wants the same. They want to be the new C-con

[finite dragon]

all of them have stockholm syndrome so they will return to the zone

[worn oar]

But darker and without the no emotions part

[hardy bear]

Sid forces you to sign an NDA when you enter

[leaden basin]

What’s that

[vernal magnet]

which puts them at odds of the Ward who want total control of the zone

You want to harness the power of the anomalous energy Dalin? gotta talk to Korshunov. I bet that's not a smooth conversation

[worn oar]

Unless, they are as I said, faking their alliance and each waiting to put the stick in each other's wheels.

[leaden basin]

So in the stalker universe, the outsiders don’t know that much about the zone?

[vernal magnet]

i would sooner guess the Ward does not get off on the idea of Siirca running unfettered scientific experiments in the zone

[finite dragon]

ofc it wont be smooth since korshunov is bald and hes jealous of dalin having hair

[vernal magnet]

what alliance??

[leaden basin]

Does the outsiders even know about mutants and anomalies

[vernal magnet]

finally someone paid attention to the trailers

[worn oar]

What do we know from the ARG?

[sand fiber]

they do know about it, just don't care for some reason
explaining what's going on with the outside world in stalker would necessitate an hour long rant about Oblivion Lost and SoC development content :3

[vernal magnet]

operation zenith

[worn oar]

Alliance is not exactly fitting the topic, but still, something similar.

Let's say on each other's throats, but not directly enemies.

[grim palm]

It doesn't confirm anything as the map is drawn up by an unreliable narrator.

[worn oar]

Yeah, and?

Them being extremely secretive

[vernal magnet]

if your insinuating the ward + siirca working to take down the current C-Con or whoever is in control, its possible, but we dont have alot of info on the current 3rd party i suppose

[rocky trellis]

You can take a stalker out of the zone, but you cannot take the zone out of the stalker

[wet lark]

Yeah id wanna see spmething like Forrester writing a book on how to survive the zone

[vernal magnet]

Misha may have gone crazy but his map is legit lol

[hardy bear]

What's this 'noon' thing you were talking about earlier?

[solid dome]

At noon...

[vernal magnet]

faction of awokened mono soldiers

[finite dragon]

how to survive in the zone:
upon entering the chernobyl exclusion zone in ukraine all you need is you shoot yourself

[worn oar]

Actually, SIRCAA is the one aiming to be the new C-Con in my opinion, but yes, I do believe that we don't have enough info on the matter. We can only theorize at the moment.

[solid dome]

aWOKEned?

Bossman, please... you can't keep going with this insanity.

[hardy bear]

Ah, had heard people mentioned them here but I don't believe i've heard it before

[sand fiber]

SIRCAA is the one aiming to be the new C-Con
S2012 be like

[wet lark]

Surviving in the zone is alot like how to survive in the hood
Step 1: dont go

[vernal magnet]

i dont think they want to be the C-Con at all. I think they have more selfish motivations

[solid dome]

New C-Con is operated by K-Kon

[solid cosmos]

Do you think there will be freeroam after completion of game like call of pripyat had?

[vernal magnet]

[sand fiber]

I HOPE NOT :333

[wet lark]

You hate everything dont you

[vernal magnet]

probably depends on the ending you get. i bet not all the endings would make sense to have freeplay after

[solid cosmos]

That would track with how it was in call of pripyat too. You could choose to stay or go depending on a choice.

[worn oar]

Yep, now try to see it from my pov? I previously mentioned that they are kinda trying to control the zone and become the new C-con but without the part where they rely on common good/emotionless decisions aiming to hold the zone at bay.

[sand fiber]

actually it'll probably be like in Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk, just loads you before the final quest

[worn oar]

[solid cosmos]

Honestly I'd be fine with that. I mean nothing stops you from free-roaming. The devs even said you can just kinda do your own thing outside of the story too

[finite dragon]

i would love when the ending results in freeplay your pda would give you a task to follow your instincts

[solid cosmos]

Nah it'll say "kill Strelok."

[rocky trellis]

Hey, you. You're finally woke?.

[indigo marsh]

People think Faust is handsome

That's morally enough for me

[sand fiber]

i hope there are unmarked sidequests in the game :3

[finite dragon]

:3

[hardy bear]

Objective: Survive

[rocky trellis]

The enemy: Army of Chihuahuas

Might lose hearing before can get anything done

[indigo marsh]

Monoward

[solid cosmos]

One of the better halo moments for sure lmao

[granite mortar]

So true

[finite dragon]

K-Kot

[granite mortar]

Omg
Kot

Six silly little gatos locked in green pickle jars

[solid dome]

[indigo marsh]

[livid viper]

Sup. Curious if anyone knows if the ultimate edition for pc is getting a restock. I signed up on the gsc website for email updates too

[indigo marsh]

I wonder how they would taste

[granite mortar]

Omg
Its professor Kotov

[granite mortar]

Like stinky socks dipped in sugary water

Not that I know anything about that

[indigo marsh]

[static compass]

Omg cat

[granite mortar]

Omg
Kot

[indigo marsh]

What would normal C con taste lik

[granite mortar]

Omg where?

[worthy lagoon]

Agreed

[indigo marsh]

Omg kot

[granite mortar]

Where?

[static compass]

[granite mortar]

Omg
Kot!

[solid dome]

@worthy lagoon Molit neglecting my questions, man. What have I done to be treated like this

[granite mortar]

You fried Mol1ts brain

[worthy lagoon]

Mol1t will be at Gamescom

You've got one chance

[granite mortar]

K-waves are based but deadly

[solid dome]

With my 14 pages of Q's? Nah

[finite dragon]

wheres gamescom gonna be

[granite mortar]

With the first 3 words

[indigo marsh]

He is already monolith tho

[worthy lagoon]

Cologne

[hardy bear]

didn't know it was a halo thing

[indigo marsh]

Maybe it made him not a renagade tho

[granite mortar]

Hope it will actually happen unlike the Cologne tank duel

[solid dome]

I'll pass on it

[solid cosmos]

It was the end of halo reach.

[indigo marsh]

[rocky trellis]

Oh yea then it's the mission I thought it is

[worthy lagoon]

You also have the chance to play the game and claim merch

[indigo marsh]

Why are the tanks battling over cologne?

[solid cosmos]

Will they kick you out if you come back a second time with a big moustache and hat

[indigo marsh]

Why don't they just go to the factory

[static compass]

Do you know how to get more roles? I've been wondering lol

[worthy lagoon]

?

[static compass]

Someone told me you get Habar guys for boosting

[granite mortar]

Because T26 bet the Tiger that Kilometers can NOT measure freedom

[static compass]

All the little profile badges

[worthy lagoon]

Yes, while the others are earned from events

[granite mortar]

Whats promising rookie for?

[indigo marsh]

Create YT channel and make stalker content till you reach 1k

[static compass]

Is there any rank above veteran?

[worthy lagoon]

Master

[static compass]

Level 35?

[worthy lagoon]

Then Legend of The Zone

[worthy lagoon]

Idr

[granite mortar]

45 I think

[static compass]

Ah

[granite mortar]

Almost there

[static compass]

I shall attain veteran soon

[solid cosmos]

Trilogy beaten for the third time in 15 years. I am ready for stalker 2..

[solid dome]

I'll pass on it

[indigo marsh]

level 50

[vernal magnet]

all of those parts "without" are what make the C-Con the C-Con

removing them removes what makes the C-Con as they were directly tapped into the noosphere as a collective conscience

[vernal magnet]

actually like this idea

[static compass]

Inception

[granite mortar]

[finite dragon]

skif go hunt artifacts sell them kill mutants and wander the zone and the task is still there telling him to follow his instincts

[tough lance]

freedom guys are pretty chill and lively to be honest, theyre the ones who enjoy their life the most while most other factions out there are suffering

[finite dragon]

hottake but these past few trailers have been rehashes tbhhh

personal headcannon but stalker alife is reason for the delays

[finite dragon]

hopefully that means they’re making it grandiose

even tho i see dutys goal as stupid i respect their determination for such goal

that seems impossible

duty has the best goal in the trilogy and most respectable its just their focus is surface level

Duty should be looking into other ways of destroying the zone

[solid cosmos]

It's half and half. They showed some stuff they showed during the deep dive, then tons of stuff they didn't show.

[finite dragon]

damn if only i could read Cyrillic some stuff in #📜┃gsc-answers looks interesting

especially ones with the answer just “NDA”

[solid cosmos]

Open it in browser and translate it?

[tough lance]

duty has the most realistic viewpoint thinking from the viewpoint that zone is real, in our real life world, the best option of course would be trying to find a way to make it completely inexist, if u cant, just keeps its danger away from outside world

[dense hatch]

do they?

[finite dragon]

on mobile rn

[dense hatch]

duty doesn't really even attempt to exploit the wonders of the zone or try to understand what it is before attempting to kill it

[finite dragon]

yeah in all three games i agreed with duty and didnt like freedom tbh

in SoC actually

[tough lance]

i like freedom cuz theyre goofy and fun

[dense hatch]

they might actually be making it worse if you agree with the theory the zone is alive

[solid cosmos]

Will we see the mercenary Scar, or will we learn his story after the events of Clear Sky?

[finite dragon]

yeah but i usually end up just fightingu them

[solid cosmos]

One such question. is that.

[tough lance]

theyre meme-y, humorous and they take it easy, enjoying their life

[finite dragon]

bet he comes back as Trumps strongest soldier aka monolith

his name is gonna be like Charon or someting

[solid cosmos]

[finite dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/please-pray-donald-trump-speech-bubble-please-donald-trump-gif-9519662826781862517

[finite dragon]

yeah its hard not to side with in stalker 1

its just that Clear Sky was closer to the goal then Duty ever will be

[dense hatch]

clear sky wasn't trying to kill the zone though

[finite dragon]

this new ward faction is kinda gayy though they should just stick with duty

[dense hatch]

if anything they were helping the zone with strelok

[finite dragon]

sure but they had way more of a means to

they knew the most

[dense hatch]

it's not even known if it would be possible to "kill" the zone considering strelok killing c-con didn't really destroy it

[finite dragon]

there’s a will there’s a way

i think Ward is just GSC trying to not use the Ukrainian Military which is really interesting

Compared to how Stalker 1 pictures the Ukrainian military

[dense hatch]

it was a shift in how they were viewed in the culture if I recall correctly

[lean quiver]

Now military will be the most liked faction

[tough lance]

c-con didnt create it by their own will, zones existence was unwanted by c-con itself

[dense hatch]

I think that's also why you work with them in CoP

[tough lance]

so destroying c-con wouldnt destroy the zone

[finite dragon]

yeah in stalker 1 the military is all crooks

[dense hatch]

exactly, if anything killing them just means nobody is left that has a good understanding of the zone

the c-con was the closest there was to a group that could "control" the zone

considering how they had all of the monolith under their finger and could use the brain scorcher and miracle machine to recruit more

[finite dragon]

side effect of tampering with the noosphere

If anything that means the Zone’s existence has a lot to do with the human brain and this pseudoscientific noosphere

[dense hatch]

matt would be great right now

[worn oar]

[finite dragon]

Kind of like a collective lucid dreaming power turned meta/physical

[tough lance]

c-con's objective (scientists') is stupid tho, destroying negative emotions like cruelty, anger etc. sounds pretty childish, like someone who doesnt understand the balance of the world, negative emotions arent bad

[finite dragon]

Mattpatt focusing on da wrong games

[dense hatch]

no like markedmatt

[tough lance]

its scientists' fault for trying to modify the noosphere

[finite dragon]

yeah it sounds absolutely retarded do you even buy it? Such cap, we know the REAL reason

[nimble cipher]

silversstuff has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dense hatch]

it makes sense in a broader view of eliminating all conflict and prejudice

[finite dragon]

Scientists don’t care for morals or ethics really they just wanted to do something to get their names in books

[finite dragon]

even a preschooler would realize this is a horrid idea

Its literally a shonin antagonist level of reasoning

[tough lance]

the concept of noosphere is a lil stupid too, noosphere surrounds the earth right, so the people wouldnt be affected by the noosphere if they went to the space/left the earth? they would have no emotions at all?

[dense hatch]

can you explain why eliminating all violence and prejudice would be bad?

I don't get everything they're removing, but those specifically seem valid

[finite dragon]

Yeah apparently Noosphere is the collective of everyone’s consciousness (like some sort of computer cloud network)

which would explain the human brain

[dense hatch]

wolf is harassing me again

[finite dragon]

Because we’re human and it’s removing what is apart of being human

It’s literally what Madara tries to do in the series Naruto

[dense hatch]

that's extremely vague and not really a good argument

just because someone can't feel a specific emotion doesn't make them not human

[finite dragon]

Ever heard of the story of the boy who gets injured and his dad thinks it’s a horrible thing to happen

Only for a war to happen and the boy is exempt, therefore the father thinks it was a good thing to happen

[dense hatch]

there wouldn't BE a war

there would be no conflict whatsoever

[finite dragon]

missed the point

[dense hatch]

no you just used an awful example

[finite dragon]

Just because something is bad initially doesn’t mean it wasn’t necessary.

[dense hatch]

you're clearly missing the implications of removing all hate from the human mind

[finite dragon]

Funny i could say the same to you

[granite mortar]

We dont know how thick noosphere is
All we know that Earth is at its center and that humans are directly connected to it

[dense hatch]

you missed the point of it being that the awful thing that "needed to happen" not needing to happen

[finite dragon]

If someone artificially removed all hate and negative feelings from all humans, it sounds dystopian

On so many levels

[tough lance]

theres no good and evil, good and evil are relative man made concepts, there are just actions on the most realistic and objective standpoint, and those actions can be classified as good or evil from mind to mind, so destroying what we classify as evil wouldnt destroy evil cuz there is no evil, there are just action, and ud be limiting human will and freedom by destroying what u personally classify as evil, thats why c-con's goal was stupid

[broken latch]

My theory is that because there's so many people on the earth, the noosophere looks like a sphere

[finite dragon]

Exactly this

Why turn humans into one dimension robots? Obviously these scientists wanted to CONTROL humanity, not BENEFIT it

Rage, hatred sometimes they are sparks for revolution

[broken latch]

Science is evil!

[finite dragon]

And change, without them, humanity is docile

why neuter the species because your moral compass says so and so emotion is “bad”

[tough lance]

or they were just weak people who couldnt understand and embrace the life in its entirety

[finite dragon]

It definitely feels like a savior complex

[granite mortar]

More robots
More twitter users
Musk gave funds to C-Con

[fluid abyss]

guys... what if the scientists created the zone for the lols

[untold silo]

OH MY SCIENCE!

[finite dragon]

if you unironically gave a button to users here to recreate the Zone IRL i think alot of people would press it lol

[untold silo]

I fcking love science!

[fluid abyss]

I'd place it in the most zone-like place in the united states... california

[finite dragon]

oy courier

[untold silo]

Make Birmingham the zone.

[finite dragon]

Somalia zone dlc

imagine big cat mutants or elephants

yeah but removing negative emotions from humanity just sounds like the average dystopic novel

it would 100% be some monkeys paw catch

[fluid abyss]

The Atlantic Zone:
ships from different continents drifting together, connected into giant cities, giant kraken like mutants lurking in the depths below

[wet lark]

The implications would be removing parts and pieces of the human nature that are natural to humans

If you remove that god knows what else youre removing by doing that

[finite dragon]

lmao

the scientists obviously had ulterior motive because even a kid would know that

[wet lark]

You cant tamper with something so complex as the human mind when you dont know what wires go to what parts of the human brain, by taking certain elements of the brain you may be destroying other things in the process

[wet lark]

Duty believers:

[finite dragon]

even just look at side effects of SSRI’s happy pills people take

[tough lance]

makes sense, they prob wanted to have control on everyone's conciousness, becoming eternal rulers of mankind

[finite dragon]

oh yeah no doubt

[tough lance]

and they created the lie of destroying evil to convince strelok to join their side

[finite dragon]

the way its presented as a choice in Stalker 1 in the room you destroy the pylons in

they had this giant green hologram

[finite dragon]

they prob try lying amongst themselves too, i think thats why strelok saw through it

Also don’t they actively control the Monolith anyways?

[grim palm]

It's easy to lie when you stand on the precepice of your own destruction

[finite dragon]

Do the scientist control monolith?

cuz then its just obvious they dont wanna help anyone if they have a personal stash of super soldiers

[wet lark]

Reminds me of communism

[grim palm]

It's a defence mechanism

[finite dragon]

employed by the zone or scientists idk

[wet lark]

"Were gonna give you the secret to a perfect society and use our super soldiers to beat anyone who disagrees into subordination"

[grim palm]

To hinder stalkers from finding out the truth

[finite dragon]

lmao if true

[tough lance]

i think noosphere is concious too, it created the zone as a reaction to c-con's attack or maybe its not, and c-con played with the wrong settings lol

[finite dragon]

def second part

[tough lance]

yh why would noosphere create the zone

[finite dragon]

the noosphere lowkey makes sense as it would solve the mystery of the human brain

[grim palm]

Noospehere is all the psychic/mental of all conscious living beings. So in a way its conscious

[finite dragon]

so somehow its turning peoples thoughts and fears from metaphysical to materialization in the zone i bet

idk that sounds wrong

[grim palm]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere

It's a real "theory"

[tough lance]

but why would it create the zone if it was noosphere creating the zone as a reaction to c-con's attempt on trying to modify it is the point where it doesnt make sense

[finite dragon]

yeah

[finite dragon]

well i remember the word “tear” being used

tear in the noosphere maybe

[tough lance]

if its the colletive of all wills then that would mean it wouldnt have a will of itself right?

[grim palm]

C-con is the creator of the zone

[finite dragon]

i think of it like cloud computing

i dont think the cloud itself has a will, its just a library

[grim palm]

The C-Consciousness then attempted to modify the noosphere. The intervention took place on March 4, 2006 and failed due to a power outage[non-game. 1]. A month later, on April 12[note. 1], the experiment was performed again and this time it continued until its completion. However, it did not have the desired effect - instead, the experiment created a rift in the noosphere and allowed it to directly affect the biosphere, creating a large area where physical laws were outright broken and mysterious phenomena not understood by modern science manifested themselves - the Zone[quote. 9].

[finite dragon]

OH I GET IT

so yeah it legit turned metaphysical human “thought” into PHYSICAL materialization in the REAL WORLD

because of a leak between the two fields of earth

[grim palm]

Nodders

[tough lance]

like an asbtract platform for people to connect with each other on abstract levels?

another dimension, something like a dimension of souls, or minds

[grim palm]

Vernadsky defined the noosphere as the new state of the biosphere,[1] and described it as the planetary "sphere of reason".[2][3] The noosphere represents the highest stage of biospheric development, that of humankind's rational activities.[4]

[finite dragon]

“Teilhard argued the noosphere is growing towards an even greater integration and unification, culminating in the Omega Point - an apex of thought/consciousness - which he saw as the goal of history.”

noosphere wiki

[grim palm]

The Noospehere is/was a real theory that noone took seriously

[finite dragon]

so its used in fiction yeah

[tough lance]

something like a sea of souls, a sea of conciousnesses beyond material world

[finite dragon]

“the goal of human history is for everyone to gather enough knowledge to become all knowing” or somethin

[finite dragon]

kinda like evengelion

[finite dragon]

so yeah thats all in the noosphere

which would usually be separate from the biosphere (IRL)

[nimble cipher]

silversstuff has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite dragon]

f u wolf

so that tear/rift caused by the little “geniuses” caused the metaphysical (noosphere) to leak/merge/and seep into reality (biosphere)

[tough lance]

i guess they could interact with noosphere because they themselves are a part of noosphere

just like every single human being

[finite dragon]

yeah but what’re you gonna do with the noosphere

[finite dragon]

true yeah

[hardy bear]

Playing COP now, went through an emission and I chose to follow a couple guys, had no idea they could loot bodies by themselves like that!

[nimble cipher]

silversstuff has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tough lance]

lol

[finite dragon]

yeah exactly the retardo scientismos tried getting READ/WRITE permissions to the Noosphere and it failed horribly

the noosphere would explain Human dreams and alot of other things tbh

like psychics

maybe DMT and drugs is just people doing gateway experiences and getting shit from the noosphere

[tough lance]

wolf done it me to :((

take this wolf 🖕

i edited the message wrote a ton of stuff then pufff its gone

[grim palm]

The zone is as archetypical as the hero's journey. Plenty of stories about such places, usually a growing up tale from adolescent to adulthood

Probably why the stalker franchise has captivated so many

[finite dragon]

Yeah i think the first impression I’ve gotten from stalker was it being a atmospheric horror shooter in 2018

[tough lance]

lemme speak wolf 😐

[finite dragon]

im so sorry bro hahahaha @cinder osprey

rip that deletion

[tough lance]

i have it copied, wouldnt make the same mistake twice 😏

[finite dragon]

i first saw by someone streaming anomaly on discord and i thought it was multiplayer

[tough lance]

i don know why it would censor tho, obv there are no bad words

maybe cuz of spoilers

maybe the multilingual censorship thinks a word is a curse swear word because that word is a bad word in another language

maybe noo sphe re means f ur mom in thai language or smth lol

just kidding

[grim palm]

[tough lance]

aight im out

mf wont let us have a nice little cozy warm campfire chat

[finite dragon]

yeah agreed

[finite dragon]

2-4 maybe just 5

the less the more memorable

[broken latch]

I want the other 10 labs considering there's at least 18

[broken latch]

The more we get the more we get to learn

[bronze nebula]

From what i can see from showcases im satisfied but im worried about nights being too bright like in showcase ( maybe its because its showcase so people can see) .Hopefully we will have an option to make nights brighter or darker because bright nights in stalker are instant turn-off

[finite dragon]

is there really

[broken latch]

Lab x-18

[finite dragon]

yeah but is it just a code name

like area-51

[broken latch]

There's x16,X10,x8

[finite dragon]

yeah idk how they would make 18 diff labs

i hope theyre cool like some underground scp containments or something

[celest goblet]

We see there is at least an X-11 in the newest trailers

[broken latch]

Not all labs have to be for creating mutants

[still ridge]

Also an underground area

[celest goblet]

My guess is all of the locations designated on this map are X-project facilities of some sort #📸┃screens_and_videos message

[granite mortar]

Well the map will be massive so Id say 5 is ideal

[still ridge]

I hope Jupiter underground connects to some of them

[granite mortar]

I hope we will get lab with higher designation than X-19

And that the new labs are memorable

[still ridge]

You watched the world and locations trailer right

That underground area with the dead tushkano seems pretty unsettling

[celest goblet]

X-11 looks like it is some sort of control center to me. Should be interesting

[still ridge]

Central laboratory

Other than X-8

I bet

Speaking of X-8, maybe it will return

We know X-18 is back, also X-11 looks kind of like the miracle machine

[celest goblet]

Yeah and I don't think X-18 is on that map, so there may be others that we can still explore. We have seen Yantar on a PDA map screenshot so I would be surprised if we couldn't go to X-16

And the brain scorcher

[still ridge]

I HECKING LOVE FINDING DOCUMENTS IN ABANDONED LABORATORIES!!!

brain scorcher maybe maybe not.

[celest goblet]

The backbone of the series. Truly relatable experience of trying to deal with poor documentation

[still ridge]

it’s been inactive for 13 years

Would be terrifying going back lol

Seemingly nobody seeing the inside of it for that long

[celest goblet]

We have seen the above ground part of it at least. One of the antennae collapsed onto a building

[indigo marsh]

[worn oar]

You all wack (75%)

[pearl jacinth]

i evil

[indigo marsh]

Pls get these bandits away from me

[pearl jacinth]

too busy being evil

[indigo marsh]

My name's not 'being evil'

[pearl jacinth]

too bad. i;m evil

[indigo marsh]

Hello evil

[pearl jacinth]

gonna do some evil shit.

the recipe of a tourist delight includes --

[indigo marsh]

Tourists

[pearl jacinth]

-# This message was redacted.

fuc

[hazy helm]

@heavy stag read the rules before suggesting something, also, why did you ger really pissed off

[granite mortar]

Sir, yes sir

[exotic hamlet]

Umm, ackshually guys. Sdalger Doo is ruined because it has weapon wheel like GTA and crosshair like Call of Doody. ☝️🤓

[still ridge]

All those underground areas are new except X-18 I think

[granite mortar]

Seems so

[exotic hamlet]

I've seen so many people complain about the crosshair as if it hasn't always been in the games and could be turned off in every single one of them.

It's an optional UI feature. I guarantee you the weapon wheel will have an optional keybind as well. No reason to complain about it. Don't use it if you don't like it.

[granite mortar]

God I cant wait
I really wanna see the new Duty base, hope what we saw was just outpost and that the main base is in some industrial area

[hazy helm]

the crosshair cannot be turned off as it is a engine tied feature

in the OG games I mean

[pearl jacinth]

xray engine 3d crosshair my beloved

games where you get close to something and the crosshair gets larger, and the other way around >>>>>

[exotic hamlet]

Can't tell if bait or if you just genuinely don't know.

[worn oar]

Gn Stalkers

[pearl jacinth]

it's like the crosshair is a physical thing that always follows your gaze. must be hell to deal with though if you're the game protagonist, lmao

[naive fog]

Gn man

[hazy helm]

I know, I just dont know if you do quite honestly

[still ridge]

I thought you could do this in SoC?

[worn oar]

You can !
Anyway, gn again lmao

[pearl jacinth]

sleep rambus

[hazy helm]

made a mixup, what I meant was, the Crosshair cannot be changed

it can be turned off

sorry

I recheck my cheat sheet

[exotic hamlet]

You can do it in all three games with a setting in the menu.

[pearl jacinth]

you know what else is an engine feature? my mom!

[still ridge]

Your mom

[exotic hamlet]

I know that the basic way in which the inventory works is engine-level because, back in the days when MISERY was the big mod, the developers were talking about how they would've liked to implement a space capacity as well, or include extra weapons slots, but they couldn't because it was hardcoded.

[solid cosmos]

pretty sure the weapon wheel is only if you got a controller plugged in.

[granite mortar]

Gn sir Ramen

[hazy helm]

yhea its standard for the Misery devs to ruin the game further

[pearl jacinth]

the xray engine is the greatest game engine to ever exist

[exotic hamlet]

I got so used to the weapon wheel in GTA on PC that I honestly hope it's available in STALKER 2 on PC as well.

[hazy helm]

damn didnt know you had the game in your hands to try out

[still ridge]

The point is it doesn’t matter because you can use keypads

Who cares

1-6 lol

[exotic hamlet]

MISERY is unbalanced, clunky, and overall BS, but it genuinely inspired a lot of better mods out there so I can't be totally ungrateful.

[granite mortar]

I can be ungrateful

[hazy helm]

yhea! good mods like......... huh...... hum..... huuuuuuuh................

[still ridge]

LMAO

[hazy helm]

AREA? no that one is shit

huiuuuu

I mean

[exotic hamlet]

But yeah, Misery devs were like, "Let's make ONE box of 5.45 worth the entire reward from a quest."

[hazy helm]

Anomaly? no thats bad as well

fuck

Dead Air? no tahts bad

as well

[exotic hamlet]

Radiophobia

[pearl jacinth]

WIND OF TIME

[hardy bear]

In COP, does any of the ground loot or stash stuff respawn? Assumed not as it never felt like it did in the first two, just wanted to check

[granite mortar]

Thats just SoC if it was bad

[hazy helm]

no thats also a really abd one what is one of them what is one of them

huuuuuuuu

https://tenor.com/view/head-rub-rub-massage-stressed-annoyed-gif-11617816

[pearl jacinth]

SPATIAL ANOMALY
RAAAAAGH

[hazy helm]

HAHA

[granite mortar]

Just say Road to the North so we can move on

[hazy helm]

Misery 1.0 inspired Autumn Aurora!!!

yes

Misery when it was good

[pearl jacinth]

I'M GONNA ＦＵＣＫＩＮＧ　GET YOU

[hazy helm]

I mean

[exotic hamlet]

No ground loot respawns. No box loot respawns either. Only loot that "respawns" is trader inventory and any new bodies that you loot.

[hazy helm]

[solid cosmos]

Mol1t answered the question in GSC-answers. I interpreted their answer to mean that.

[pearl jacinth]

wait holy shit full width lets you say ｆｕｃｋ lol

freed from the shackles.....

[exotic hamlet]

STALKER Soup

[granite mortar]

What a .fucking discovery

[hazy helm]

that shit was not inspired by anomaly what else...

[pearl jacinth]

BR

[hazy helm]

neither is stalkersoup good

[exotic hamlet]

Lmao. I'm kidding. I know STALKER Soup is like 8 years older than Misery.

[hardy bear]

aight. I'd better be resourceful then

[pearl jacinth]

wolf geekin

[granite mortar]

Its also 8 years better

[exotic hamlet]

You also get a daily reward from completing two quests, but the two quests involve spoilers.

[pearl jacinth]

then put them in the fridge, so that they do not spoil.

[hazy helm]

like, if you wanna play stalker soup
just play DMX proper man

dont be a little bitch

[pearl jacinth]

if you wanna play real stalker soup, get call of chernobyl and download every single addon for it you can find

[exotic hamlet]

X Gon' deliver it to ya?

[hazy helm]

ho right, I have yet to translate DMX

soon

[pearl jacinth]

the entirety of moddb

[granite mortar]

What even is DMX sir Vasim?

[exotic hamlet]

Go hard and get busy with it.

[hardy bear]

also no mutant looting hurts my muscle memory lol

[pearl jacinth]

stab it anyways

[indigo marsh]

It's a mod

[exotic hamlet]

Ahh. GAMMA Bambis hopping into the OG trilogy.

[hazy helm]

I forgot about it bro LMAO

Im still looking for White Mist

its MIA man

and that sucks

[indigo marsh]

For norodyna Solyanka

[granite mortar]

Well yeah
I figured that out

[pearl jacinth]

shit aborted

[hazy helm]

it existed, at some point in time

[exotic hamlet]

Best STALKER mod is obviously Reborn "Wassap ne*r?"

[pearl jacinth]

deadbeat dad type shit

[hardy bear]

Nah, just soc and clear sky. Always looted them even though I think I got 1 thing in 20 hours of gametime lol

[pearl jacinth]

what'd you get?

[hardy bear]

some leg from a boar or something

[pearl jacinth]

feast for a real one

[exotic hamlet]

Oh dam. My bad then.

[hardy bear]

Don't even know if it sold for anything worthwhile

but it means all my money making will probably be just artifacts

[hardy bear]

It's k. I'm playing through the originals first, although watching my friends on anomaly is admittedly what got me into it

[pearl jacinth]

the zone welcomes all as it has no sense of immigrant control

somewhat hard to establish a government in a radioactive hellscape

[hardy bear]

I've noticed that the eye bar up on the minimap never changes, does that mechanic just not exist?

[exotic hamlet]

GAMMA really wants us to believe the UN stopped the import of weapons, ammo, and armor into the Zone... A place where people illegally enter for illegal purposes.

[pearl jacinth]

the corresponding number/meter next to it fills up as more people are nearby

it's a good indicator of "ok how many grenades are gonna get tossed in my general direction if i accidentally fire a single shot"

[hazy helm]

if they went full throttle with it it wouldnt be bad, its the half assedness that kills the idea

[hardy bear]

ah so it's not 'how visible you are' but moreso how many people are actually looking at you?

[pearl jacinth]

yeah

in COP it's both (number and visibility meter)

[exotic hamlet]

Only way it would be believable is if the UN had a dominant presence in the Zone, but the most we get are their somewhat-clandestine scientific forces.

[pearl jacinth]

in the soc beta, it was called "online contacts" or something like that

because ykno, everyone's got a pda.

[hazy helm]

if they integrated the idea of the "UN holding control of the Zone" to its logical end then it could do a good interesting story and world building with interesting gameplay implications

it already puts in cause the work of a stalker as illegal as if the UN is cracking down it means it wants to take over and privatise stalking (legitimise it) and on a gameplay standpoint you can work around making weapons more rare by making them special, each of em

[hazy helm]

only getting them by killing enemies or by completting missions or thru a black market managed by high costs

[pearl jacinth]

i think they should fear my buddy ivanov

[exotic hamlet]

Without a substantial boots-on-the-ground force (that would likely just be a detachment of the US Military on "Peacekeeping operations"), the UN wouldn't be able to enforce shizz.

[hazy helm]

of course, this never happens, which is why the idea sucks

[exotic hamlet]

I had to deconstruct GAMMA a little and even change some loading screen tips because of it. I wanted to craft my own freeplay experience.

[granite mortar]

Technically speaking
Sargoth is only interested in their fingers
The rest can still go to G i O

[pearl jacinth]

sargoth is FREAKY

[granite mortar]

Both are freaky

[pearl jacinth]

but me? i;m evil.

[granite mortar]

Each in their own way

[pearl jacinth]

i'm the guy that .fucked up the stream bitrate!! RAAAH'

[granite mortar]

Hi evil
Im chymo

[pearl jacinth]

go go gadget pixel reducer

[exotic hamlet]

see Freedom patch where the wolf is edited to boykisser meme
day ruined

[hardy bear]

is Grouse supposed to be able to crouch walk so much faster than you?

[pearl jacinth]

yeah, because he never skips leg day.

[hardy bear]

armour is already almost destroyed

[exotic hamlet]

I'm really a lightweight. Buzzed out of my mind from 24oz of 7% ABV.

[pearl jacinth]

that zone shit hits different, i'm telling you all about it.

[exotic hamlet]

Okay, that's enough adding to my blocklist.

[celest blaze]

?

Blocking over a joke is kinda goofy

[vale patrol]

Yo all this hand to hand combat lmao skiff really be putting hands on mfers bro 😭💀

Oh shit I forgot I changed my name

[hardy bear]

and I take it stuff I put in stashes won't just magically dissapear one day in COP. looks like i'll need to store some things

[lean quiver]

I think my hair is naturally the strelok haircut

[candid slate]

are the past 2 teasers one off things or are we getting daily teasers or smth?

[lean quiver]

marketing campaign seems to be in full now so i guess we getting plenty of teasers

[candid slate]

lets gooo

[nova wedge]

Unfortunately you must get used to these things as it only gets worse

[umbral ridge]

how do i fix the xray error when launching stalker Shadow of chernoybl (mods including specifically ZRP)

[lean quiver]

You would be better off asking in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications or the mod discord (if it has one or website)

[celest blaze]

Same im getting a strelok peak

[loud gate]

Obviously not every day

[candid slate]

yeah but like every few days or once a week like during July?

[celest goblet]

Well, hard to say. There may be another video or two before Gamescom, where I suspect we may see another trailer

[hidden stratus]

Words.

[worldly cargo]

Anyone gonna play S2 on steam deck?

[grim palm]

Finger licking good

[worldly cargo]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/935e50530d7ce34da3ce0015cf1677ba/tumblr_mysemhKol51r2igv7o8_250.gif

[finite dragon]

#💬┃en_offtop message

[cyan marsh]

@graceful wren Man we were wrong asf

[graceful wren]

Wrong vriska

[dull orchid]

do we know if it's console or pc gameplay they showed on the developer stream?

[still ridge]

PC with controller

GSC answered in the #📜┃gsc-answers channel

[hidden stratus]

Im removing that crosshair the moment I spawn

[wide flume]

Oh the whole huds gone

[grim palm]

The moment I spawn, snorks better be 'ware

[wide flume]

Metro spartan difficultly all over again

[wide flume]

𝓢𝓷𝓸𝓻𝓴𝓼 ❤️

[celest blaze]

😈

snorks run at you, snorks run from me. we are NOT the same

[static compass]

You and Gio are something else with these snorks man I swear

[gloomy knoll]

Moment i Spawn is the day certain factions will have the start of their ends

[loud gate]

Depends, but expect news more like once a week from now on

[celest blaze]

im killing freedom on the spot

[gloomy knoll]

Makes 2 of us

[static compass]

Agreed, sounds reasonable

[celest blaze]

freedom is my eternal OPPS

[loud gate]

I imagine they will release the quest without commentary today to finish it off

[celest blaze]

[static compass]

Korshunov is an opp for that delay announcement

[gloomy knoll]

You Think their exos still Look like a Wannabe orange Walking around?

[loud gate]

[static compass]

[wide flume]

Not sigma

[indigo marsh]

Freedomers are not sigma

They terrorised this poor dude

[wide flume]

Bc he’s not a sigma

[indigo marsh]

True

[celest blaze]

freedoms been ops since CoP Letting flint run with them

[indigo marsh]

But that's because he is a gamma

[wide flume]

Gamma slop😁

[wide flume]

Sadly true🙁

[indigo marsh]

No. Gamma best stalker GAME

Clear Sky? The anomaly faction

[wide flume]

Waiter, please more tarkov slop

[celest blaze]

fr aint CS a non canon faction

[wide flume]

[celest blaze]

i was told to skip CS so idk

[indigo marsh]

Play true sdalg

[wide flume]

I won’t lie I am a gamma enjoyer

But cs truly is best stalker game

[dim topaz]

CS is stalker fanfiction fr

[celest blaze]

same imo gamma is its own thing and aint bad if viewed as its own thing and not stalker

[celest blaze]

🫵👑

[wide flume]

I like the ability to be a stalker without having main character protection

[indigo marsh]

EFP exist

[celest blaze]

EFP also needs alot of graphics updates as it kinda looks ugly

[indigo marsh]

So true

[celest blaze]

its using SSS u16 and we at 20.2 atm

[indigo marsh]

Alright I am done circle jerking

[wide flume]

Real shit

[celest blaze]

ONG

Now for heated stalker debates CS ( the game and faction ) >

[indigo marsh]

Honestly also as long as it looks somewhat decent I am fine with it graphics wise

[wide flume]

I played the OG stalker trilogy graphics ain’t decision maker