⭐┃nospoilers_general

[pearl jacinth]

tbh yeah i feel like after long enough of it existing, people have just accepted the fact that it exists

[faint vector]

Jesus christ, I mean aight.

I gotta try readin' some of this or trying out that mod

[vale patrol]

That’s actually cool asf wth lmao

[dapper finch]

That's good, you've got a lot of nearby countries' speciality sites. I've found the Collector's ed but not the Ultimate ed. Leave this with me. 🙂

[vale patrol]

Yeah

[lone iris]

Aww, cheers man, that's insane. I'm currently reading up on some reddit posts suggesting Amazon Germany and stuff, but they're older.

[vale patrol]

wait Noz what about the people mentioned that buy anomalies that are smuggled out of the zone for like display and shit. I remember something like that was mentioned in SOC I believe

Like some of the rich pay for artifacts that made it out of the zone due to interest and stuff

[sand fiber]

be wary that 3.0 is unstable and while restoring A LOT OF things does so for every feature and element of OL and even early SoC, so ideas from 2004 literary script and 2002 desdoc are present in the same space and can give this vasyan feeling, it also restores dubious design decisions from documents that weren't taken seriously even when they were created

honestly though? it fuсking nails the vibe

[faint vector]

Sounds like depression incarnate

[dapper finch]

Amazon Germany has had stock at various points, not the worst idea.

[sand fiber]

yeah, jank incarnate too :3

[faint vector]

Well that's just stalker

[nimble cipher]

weewdiedrich has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone iris]

All I found so far as an actual listing is the UK version, but it's out of stock

[pearl jacinth]

I fudgING LOVE EUROJANK!!! YHEHA!!!

peak gaming, i fear

[dapper finch]

Oh I forgot to ask, which platform are you after

[lone iris]

Whoops, PC.

[dim topaz]

I hope they bring back that cut psi emisison monster from Yantar

[pearl jacinth]

i hope they bring back the TINNITUS.wav of a controller looking in your general direction

[sand fiber]

ye, that's like the whole thing, stalkers go to Zone in hopes of getting rich, that was always the case
i haven't gone far into the literary script, but stalkers still do sell artifacts it seems

an important issue to understand about stalker's development is that it was 10 new different ideas all parallel to each other every two weeks, the literary script describes one thing, the design document says about another thing, the build features a bunch of whole other stuff, and all of it may or may not conflict and contradict with eachother, how those ideas developed weren't exactly smooth as well, Sergiy Ivanov didn't write Children of the Zone for 2 years from scratch, there were two scenarists before him, and while Sergiy wrote, Andriy Prohorov and Aleksiy Sytyanov wrote too, every fuсking time something new, different and prolly unrelated :S

[dapper finch]

https://www.gameware.at/info/space/S.T.A.L.K.E.R+2+Heart+of+Chernobyl+Ultimate+Edi.?emphasize=MS-STALK2U Try watchlisting this, Austrian site

[sand fiber]

eurojank is one thing, vasyan delusions and notions of gameplay with broken scripts is another

[pearl jacinth]

lol, like having a team full of "idea guys"!

"wouldnt it be hilarious if the game had this?"
"absolutely. put it in."

[dapper finch]

It's almost like the factions in the zone are manifestations of the devs

[sand fiber]

i fuсking love it though, can't quite describe the feeling, but poking at the cryptic mechanics trying to find solutions on both meta and in-universe levels is my shit

like getting to carnally know Pathologic 1, if that tells you anything

[sand fiber]

yea, but they did the hard "actually realizing this bull shit into the game" work too :3

[pearl jacinth]

"make npcs follow you across levels."
"absolutely."
cue that one clip of the development documentary where the player turns around and there's like 200 enemy npcs

[pearl jacinth]

idea guys would be unstoppable if they were also programmers. the horrors.

we end up getting the greatest game of all time

[dapper finch]

"Oh you didn't want that SVD from the watchtower? Unfortunately for you it's now mine and I see you scampering off over there"

[pearl jacinth]

terrifying

[somber hawk]

imo if you can find a svd that easily its kinda unbalanced

[worn oar]

Morning stalkers

[random bridge]

why my screen foggy

like trees a bit away are foggy

[worn oar]

#📸┃screens_and_videos show here

[random bridge]

js sent!

[worn oar]

Check vision distance

In setting

[random bridge]

everythings high besides detail

renderring quality

[worn oar]

Okay you are using a mod right?

If so then see if you have depth of field active

[random bridge]

stalker anomaly

[random bridge]

is that why its foggy?

[worn oar]

Yeah probably

[random bridge]

alrighty

tyy

[worn oar]

Also, mod talks are reserved for this channel #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[random bridge]

imm not using any mods tho (none work eitherways)

[dapper finch]

Balance is killing before you're killed.

[dim topaz]

Replaying the trilogy, I never realized how much better clear sky looks graphically than the other games. I wonder why they nerfed CoP's graphics

[sand fiber]

anomaly is a mod

[dapper finch]

Probably because of the userbase's computer specs, I could barely run CS then was amazed how well CoP ran

[warm linden]

question, what's the main stuff in the deep dive that we are gonna see?

[warm linden]

most polished game
worst slop

[dim topaz]

watch the deep dive and see

[sand fiber]

it's not so much nerfed as the colour palette is fuсked, everything's brown

also the fov, also the fact that skybox is wrong distance and hasn't been fixed

[dim topaz]

bro clear sky is NOT polished xd it's a complete mess on a technical level

[sand fiber]

the funniest thing is that in CoP builds both the skybox and fov were fine :S

[sand fiber]

kade hiiiii haaaaiiii hihello hiiii :333

[dim topaz]

idk, CoP in some cases feels like it looks worse than SoC

[sand fiber]

SoC > CS graphics tbh

[dim topaz]

Agreed. CS looks better purely fidelity-wise, but SoC is better aesthetically

[random bridge]

you can load a shotgun w multiple shells??

brah

[faint vector]

Guys, guys, unpopular opinion. But Stalker 2 looks better than Shadow of Chornobyl.

[sand fiber]

okay mandatory question have you played the trilogy

[sand fiber]

ARGUABLE

can't escape the UE5 slop feeling looking at S2 tbh

Colour choices should've been more vibrant

[faint vector]

I just want to quicksave and die in 4k maaaaaan

[sand fiber]

Or maybe they are, i dunno

[warm linden]

im talking about COP

[worn oar]

[warm linden]

hai fren hru :3

[dim topaz]

You don't know that these could be vertical slices!

[faint vector]

Funny anomaly

[sand fiber]

constant anxiety ^w^
what bout you?!!

[random bridge]

nope, anomaly is my first stalker game

[dim topaz]

Hilarious, even

[sand fiber]

i'm SO excited for the total conversions

[warm linden]

same :3333, not having a good time this week

[sand fiber]

oh my fucudkdinf ogd

Anomaly is a total conversion freeplay mod

[dim topaz]

brave man saying such things around these parts

[sand fiber]

Play the games, Shadow of Cherbobyl > Clear Sky > Call of Pripyat

[warm linden]

anomaly is a standalone mod for call of pripyat :D

[dim topaz]

isn't it based on Clear Sky actually?

[worthy lagoon]

Ur a Karlik

[worthy lagoon]

No lol

[sand fiber]

a standalone fork of Last Day which is a fork of Call of Misery which is a fork of Call of Chernobyl with Misery elements both of which are Call of Pripyat mods*

[warm linden]

no

[worthy lagoon]

Anomaly is a mod based on a mod called Road to the north

[warm linden]

how many more forks to go?

[random bridge]

without anomaly i wouldnt have stumbeld upon such peak..

[dim topaz]

Maybe it's just the areas then huh.... Cordon, the Swamp, Garbage, all of those are lifted from clear sky

[worthy lagoon]

And RTTN is based on a mod called Call of Chernobyl

And CoC is based on CoP

[random bridge]

best stalker game (only one i playe

[worthy lagoon]

Those maps were imported by CoC devs

Anomaly devs did nothing regarding that

Tbh the AI navigation is more messy than in CoC

[sand fiber]

sentenced to full Cumulative Pack 2.2 playthrough

[random bridge]

huh?

[worthy lagoon]

*Mod

[dim topaz]

CoC, man, I played that a few years ago it was so damn broken but conceptually so cool. Got real excited about anomaly when I found out about it

[random bridge]

is it hard or smth? i love suffering aslong as its with grace and beauty

[faint vector]

[sand fiber]

hard? depends, but either way you still suffer, it's the biggest stalker mod with around 700 hours of content

[faint vector]

The stalker gulag

[worthy lagoon]

?? How is it broken

[random bridge]

sounds fun ngl

[dim topaz]

It used to crash for me all the time for no reason, corrupt my saves etc.,

[sand fiber]

If you're looking for difficulty check out NLC 7, you WILL regret it

[dim topaz]

then again so did anomaly. gamma is the only open world mod I can actually play without issues

[dapper finch]

Never had an issue with CoC, played it loads back in the day

[random bridge]

does it work with stalker?

[sand fiber]

wdym

[random bridge]

can i run it on stalker, or is it a game itself

[worthy lagoon]

??

[random bridge]

a mod or a game-mod.

[worthy lagoon]

Do you even know what stalker is?

[sand fiber]

it's a standalone mod, like Anomaly

[worthy lagoon]

Either way it's a standalone mod

[random bridge]

ah, ty

[sand fiber]

he doesn't, but if he plays NLC before the trilogy it's gonna be the funniest shit ever

god imagine playing OP without any prior experience with the universe

[worthy lagoon]

Lmfao

[worn oar]

Anomaly talk

Granma talk when ?

[random bridge]

peak(ness)

[hazy helm]

[dapper finch]

To be fair, Stalker mods are unlike how mods work for most games. Most stalker mods are total conversions whereas those are rare for most games

[sand fiber]

all buildo talk will eventually succumb to anomaly talk, such is the law

[worn oar]

He might smash his own pc lmao

[random bridge]

ngl i always thought gamma and anomaly were two sepreate games

[worthy lagoon]

A good chunk of these mods still retain og gameplay/gunplay

[dapper finch]

Gamma is built on top of Anomaly, think of it like a minecraft modpack

[hazy helm]

They basically are
Grok is just very pedantic and refuses to admit he made a fork

[versed crypt]

GAMMA NOW

[worn oar]

Granma is a modpack for anomaly.

[glacial quartz]

What you guys think of the deep dive? Was not too pleased with how the rain looks

[worn oar]

Basically anomaly with addons

[random bridge]

a mod for a mod? zamn

[dapper finch]

Really? I loved it. The sound was what sold it though

[worn oar]

What do you mean gamma? It's granma

[glacial quartz]

It looked a tiny but out of place graphically, like a little pixelated?

[versed crypt]

Grokma

[dapper finch]

Anomaly without addons is objectively shit. If you are playing it you should be kitting out a modlist.

[glacial quartz]

I agree anomaly without mods is kind of bland and gets repetitive

[worn oar]

And both are based on Call of chernobyl. Anomaly modded the engine and added some other stuff and that's it

[worthy lagoon]

?

[sand fiber]

okay wolf

[worn oar]

Vasim loves gork

That's what he meant, kuro

[hazy helm]

Ppl try to rationalize Skyrim being good the same way they rationalize Anomaly being good

[sand fiber]

[STOC Gaming] Grok Lover

[random bridge]

downloading mods is hard...i have to watch a yt tut abt it someday

[sand fiber]

ACTUALLY TRUE

[worn oar]

True

[hazy helm]

Woe is me
I need to download a zip archive and click on the exe
How I suffer the absolute horror

I weep

I cry

For I need to move my mouse to CLICK a button

[dim topaz]

YES SIR?

[worn oar]

Vasim is still traumatized from granma

That's why he loves gork

Repack phobia is real

[dim topaz]

I'm more of a Mork kinda guy myself

[sand fiber]

Morlok? Anarchy Cell reference?

[dim topaz]

Warhammer Fantasy/40k

[random bridge]

doesnt work for me...i downloaded bears nvg mod, clicked, extracted, made mod folder, put in, doesnt work. gave up

[tough lance]

after getting used to stalkers gameplay i forgot how to play other fps games

[hazy helm]

Anomaly is a special bad case
Because it is a Bethesda game when comes to it
Any other stalker mod is just drag and drop and it's done

[dapper finch]

Mod Organiser 2 is what you need. Set it up for your Anomaly install then you can download addons from ModDB. Tick to activate addon, untick to deactivate. Lower down the list overwrites higher up in cases of conflict (tends to mean crashes with Stalker). Lightning bolts mean there might be a conflict. Tweak and play until it works. Addons with DLTX on the end of the name are super compatible.

[wet lark]

Once i got used to stalker i couldnt play anh other fps game cause they all fall short lol

[sly matrix]

Gork iz brutally cunning and Mork iz cunningly brutal. WAAAAAAAAAAAGH

[hazy helm]

I hate how anomaly introduced the "modularity" of Bethesda
Fucking sucks
Can't have nice things

[random bridge]

this fried my brain.

[hazy helm]

Back to New Arsenal 7

[dapper finch]

Without that modularity you can't revert Anomaly to being like CoC

[hazy helm]

That's like making mashed potatoes then putting them in the cooler because you want them to be solid again

[tough lance]

its not cuz of falling short, its that the controls preset are so different when u get used to stalkers movement and gameplay u forgot how to play other games because stalkers gameplay is different than modern shooters where everyone mimicks each other

[dapper finch]

CoC is dead. Anomaly isn't.

[hazy helm]

CoC is very much alive p

Wtf are you talking about

[sand fiber]

i mean conceptually it's alright ig, just an objectively inferior thing to anything else the scene has to offer

[dapper finch]

None of the big addons are ported to CoC anymore, haven't been for years

[kindred tapir]

I wonder how many of you have read Roadside Picnic

[cyan canopy]

I wish Anomaly still used CoC engine

[hazy helm]

CoC is still forked and used for a large majority of freeplay experiences with it's forks still being worked on the factoma of "CoC is dead" is categorically untrue
Anomaly is tacked into the CoC category as well

[dapper finch]

Alas I've read Metro 2033 and seen Tarkovsky's Stalker but still haven't read Roadside Picnic.

[hazy helm]

CoC isn't "dead"

At least until somebody kills anomaly

[dapper finch]

CoC is dead as a modding platform. But you seem to hate modding platforms.

[dim topaz]

I could never get into metro ngl. Just feels too "different"

[kindred tapir]

What is CoC I thought you guys are talking about Clash of Clans

[hazy helm]

Elaborate

[dapper finch]

Call of Chernobyl.

[hazy helm]

Call of Chernobyl

[random bridge]

i just saw a msg from my pda saying some tranasports still work in the truck cemetry, is that true or is it a trap?

[sand fiber]

Call of Chernobyl, 2017 freeplay sandbox mod for Call of Pripyat

[tough lance]

are mods really good? i dont wanna mod cuz like theyre 3rd party, and i feel the game is decent enough, its not that old, its playable and fun just rarely crashes

[dapper finch]

You said modular modding like skyrim. That's modding like basically anything that isn't stalker. That's what I want lol to get the game to actually be how I want it, to wrangle it into a good experience..

[hazy helm]

Yes, mods are good, depends on the mod, like games
NA7 is nothing like RTTZ or Game of Souls both are starkly diff

[worn oar]

CoC is anomaly nobody can cover up that truth no matter how hard they mod the engine

[civic marlin]

Why do people compare S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 and GAMMA? Is there any point in comparing an old version of the game (even if filled with countless mods) to a new one?

I can't understand people who were expecting S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 to be like GAMMA/Anomaly tbh.

[worn oar]

It'll always be CoC

[dapper finch]

The only real freeplay experience in the original games is in CoP and it's super bland. That's the main reason I play mods.

[faint vector]

The only thing they'll share is being about stalker, and better graphics than the trilogy.

[worthy lagoon]

C-Con

[sand fiber]

Most of the Stalker modding is total conversion, think of them as fangames, like Enderal is to Skyrim and Undertale Yellow is to Undertale

There aren't that many vanilla+ mods that you install ontop of your game, but there are a lot of total conversions

[worn oar]

Granma is not modded stalker, it's modded anomaly/coc. The comparison doesn't even stand logically

[faint vector]

Other than that Stalker 2 will be a stalker game, like all the trilogy games. But more modern graphically, and more emphasis on story aspects.

[tough lance]

the most popular ones i heard are anomaly gamma, efp and enhancement mods

[hazy helm]

Modding is opening the game and modifying the game to make a mod, what you do is download mods its diff
And that is what I don't want, I don't want a bunch of diff settings to make what j want I want to see what other ppl make, that's what makes modding great, its a curated experience made by someone with their own ideas and priorities

[sand fiber]

alr wait a second i'll pull up the charts

[faint vector]

Aw hail naw she gettin' the charts

[dapper finch]

Which is what I was talking about. CoC was built not as a total conversion but as a modding platform for people to put addons on top of. Anomaly screwed that up by having core features like the engine upgrade that are better but having a vastly changed core experience so you have to add a ton of addons to make it not "Anomaly-ish"

[dapper finch]

In every other game, modding is both making mods AND creating a modlist. Not this stupid argument again...

[hazy helm]

That's just needlessly confusing

[dapper finch]

What the heck would you call it then

[hazy helm]

Downloading mods

[dapper finch]

Any other game you'd be laughed out of the room

[hazy helm]

I fail to see how my alternative is any worse
If that is what we have rn it is needlessly confusing, both to the user and the one who wants to start modding

[sand fiber]

https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1723029558987414.png
handy chart with mod recommendations
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GgBFCRIbc7TQ5DwWHvWaridX1G64PYoWItkLyr3pBPk/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0
C-con modlist with download links and fixes
personal recommendations:
"Spatial Anomaly - an ~12 hour mod about a group of stalkers trapped inside a spatial anomaly
Valley of Whispers - a ~8 hour mod with a single and original location, very CoP-like
Wind of Time - a ~15 hour mod with time travel shenanigans, haven't finished it yet
SFZ Project: Episode Zero, Lost Story - short story mods with high production value
Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5 - a ≥30 hour project focused on rebuilding the 2003 "alpha" version of stalker
Oblivion Lost Remake 3.0 - a recent release, >100 hour project, more locations, new gameplay, new storyline and quests, nothing from 2.5 was untouched [Still in OBT, unstable, not the greatest translation]
Vector of Alienation - an OLR 2.0 addon that revamps some of its gameplay elements and rewrites the story to be more faithful to the Oblivion Lost literary script
RMA Shadows Addon - a similar project, but this time for the 2005 version of SoC
Golden Sphere, Return to the Zone and its DLCs - a duology by Jekan, quite long, heavily influenced by Roadside Picnic
Legend Returns - a CoC modpack with buildo aesthetics and a new storyline, will never reach the final release

if you're also positively insane you might wanna take a look at various solyankas like
Cumulative Pack 2.2 - the biggest stalker mod with over 500 hours of (dubious) content
People's Soup 2016/2024 - the one that started it all
NLC 7 - the "hardest" mod for stalker, Hard Edition is the only one currently translated, prepare to suffer
New Arsenal 7 - i don't even know what it is"

[shamelessly copypasted from my previous messages]

[random bridge]

i aint reading allat

[hazy helm]

Don't worry tik tok child
I got you

[worthy lagoon]

||wind of time is about clones dummy||

[hazy helm]

Play NA7

[worthy lagoon]

Play NLC7

[sand fiber]

:S

[hazy helm]

Play DSH

[random bridge]

thank you shoemaker

[worthy lagoon]

Jk, don't listen to Vasim, NLC sucks

Play Goldsphere

Goldsphere>NLC

[random bridge]

after i suffer all suffering in anomaly

[hazy helm]

Why suffer thru a shit mod when you could play PEAK

[random bridge]

how many gb is it? ima download

thank god i got a usb stick so i can just save

[sand fiber]

why are we gaslighting this innocent man into playing CIA MKULTRA mods

[hazy helm]

12 unpacked
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KdrX0-984ntVTU0gj11g1JDqOYKdeWvY/view

[dapper finch]

The thing is, in other games there's usually a not too difficult layman capacity to make your own mini-mods to solve compatibility issues, so in those cases building a modlist involves your definition of modding - probably why the term is interchangeable outside of stalker

[random bridge]

is it a standalone game tho?

[hazy helm]

Me after NA7

[faint vector]

One of these zip folder is gonna have a zip bomb bro I swear

[hazy helm]

Yes

[sand fiber]

honestly we should start calling stalker mods fangames

[dapper finch]

CoC and DLTX have made Stalker a lot more similar to something like Skyrim in terms of building a modlist

[random bridge]

peak, only 9gb, ima install

[faint vector]

Anomaly and gamma are good, as they bring new people to play the original trilogy.

[sand fiber]

people walk into the scene expecting a nexus mod experience at worst and half-life 2 map collections at best

[faint vector]

More stalker more fun

[hazy helm]

If you are making a mod list by weaving mods together sure that is considered modding since you are making compability files but bow many ppl do this as opposed to downloading 10 mods and running the game

[random bridge]

is it hard or smth

i hate hate games where i gotta wait

[hazy helm]

Not as many as ppl assume tbh, but I'm glad there's ppl jumping ship

[sand fiber]

no it's just... russian

[hazy helm]

It's very fast paced and focused on shooting

[civic marlin]

Well, yeah.
But some particularly 'smart' guys love to compare these things.

[random bridge]

sounds fun

[sand fiber]

i'd rather people form core memories with SoC tbh

[random bridge]

20 mins left

[faint vector]

I remember playing the trilogy first, I didn't get hooked and stopped playing rather quickly. Then I saw a lot of people playing anomaly so I tried it, I loved it. And tried the trilogy again, and actually liked it as I knew the story more.

[hazy helm]

Ok

What do you want me to do

[lone iris]

Thanks for this, got a bit distracted with work.

[dapper finch]

The widespread adoption of mods has led to the average person using them to be a lot more casual. Tick a box and there you go. It used to be a lot more complex even just to be a user.

[faint vector]

Bro I'm just saying, the hate against mods is goofy af. People like what they like. Stalker is stalker. Let people have their fun

[hazy helm]

Yes and this is what I don't consider to be modding, when I say downloading mods I don't mean creating and patching compability issues and balancing mods but the Bethesda user approach of downloading 100 mods and not much else, especially with the use of tools like MO2 which facilitate the process

[random bridge]

all stalker games are equal, but some are more equal than others

[hazy helm]

Yes Stalker is Stalker, the 3 stalker games, what I am saying is, anomaly and gamma aren't stalker they are their own experiences with their focuses, lore and strong points all detached from what stalker is which is what mods should be their own independent self, and if a person likes this then there is just not much reason to jump somewhere else

If you like AREA for example, wouldn't translate to liking stalker

[dapper finch]

But it's not just downloading them is it? It's building a compatible list including resolving potential conflicts and testing. A big modlist on top of CoC/Anomaly/CotZ/Gamma etc cannot be achieved quickly or all that easily.

[hazy helm]

So are you saying that Anomaly modding is Bethesda like in it's ease of modularity and modlist creation or are you saying it's obtuse due to compability issues and not good?

[faint vector]

If anomaly and gamma were never made the stalker player base would be even smaller. They brought attention to the trilogy and made people interested in stalker 2.

But I get what you’re saying

[lone iris]

Btw, unless I'm going crazsy, it seems like it can let me preorder it?

[worthy lagoon]

Not really

STALKER was very much famous in Europe

Less in the US, but the US is not the whole world

[dapper finch]

I'm saying CoC is Bethesda like because CoC is spiritually Stalker at its core, it's basically just CoP's freeplay expanded with the SoC and CS maps. Whereas Anomaly goes for its own (bad) take.

[faint vector]

I can guarantee you when gamma/anomaly popped off the player count for the trilogy games went up with it. You can’t say they didn’t have an impact.

[hazy helm]

Ppl were already interested in stalker and would still be even if Anomaly and Gamma weren't a thing, Stalker 2 doesn't owe anything to them
Stalker 2 and Stalker popularity is bolstered by the marketing of the games themselves as well as reviews of the old games

[faint vector]

I’m European as well, but we all know how influential American media is.

[vale patrol]

Hell nah lmao I agree stalker had its fan and is great

But anomaly definitely BOOSTED THAT shit

Especially when drewski made that video some years back

[random bridge]

mutant threat" and its a single dog.

[dapper finch]

Remember Anomaly and Gamma turned up at a time when the Stalker franchise was considered dead after the cancellation of Stalker 2 (2011)

[vale patrol]

Especially because near that time tarkov was popping and people wanted a pve hardcore game since the PvP in tarkov was too much for some

[warm linden]

having you murdered for this

[vale patrol]

Without anomaly it’s def not as big as it is nothing wrong with that

Still a great series regardless but ain’t gonna pretend like that shit didn’t boost it

[warm linden]

anomaly also gave people a lot of wrong expectations :D

[dapper finch]

A lot of people heard of those mods then went and played the trilogy. That's good, right?

[warm linden]

anomaly isn't as good as mods like RTTN and CoTZ as well

[warm linden]

only because others mentioned it, a lot of people haven't even heard of the trilogy only anomaly

[vale patrol]

Well in this convo it ain’t about what you objectively feel like about the packs

We talking about the popularity and anomaly got it

All you gotta do is watch drewskis video he explains the aftermath of when he made that first anomaly video

[vale patrol]

Literally broke the mod website lmao

Whole bunch of other stuff but he explains it better than me and I ain’t typing it all out 😭

[faint vector]

A boost to the player base means more interest in stalker 2 and more interest in stalker 2 means more money for GSC lol

[warm linden]

anomaly is popular because of youtubers, who also don't bring exposure to the original series

[warm linden]

yes but they'll come in with the wrong expectations and play it like it's anomaly or gamma

[faint vector]

Then let them, if they don’t like it they can cry about it and get dunked on

[warm linden]

Just saying though, it's a bad thing

[hazy helm]

CoC still has elements of its own like writting, lore and story elements and gameplay elements, as well as balancing of its own

[vale patrol]

Not entirely true but even then Brodie lmao that’s not the point of what we’re talking about

[mortal parcel]

I disagree... Modding is what kept the hype around stalker for decades

Without modding, I think the franchise would have been long dead, just like F.E.A.R. or so many FPS franchise

[vale patrol]

All we saying is cause Brodie had said that even without anomaly stalker would be as popular

[random bridge]

ak74u or ak74?? whats better?? ingame

[warm linden]

I'm just expanding on it?

[vale patrol]

Which one hundred percent ain’t true

[faint vector]

The man himself

[vale patrol]

Not really Brodie 😭

[hazy helm]

The boost that happened is greatly exaggerated
What happens is that you have a niche, that is filled by anomaly, and see no reason to jump shit or change anything, you already have what you like and that is fine bc anomaly isnt stalker its its own thing
I'm not gonna saying no person went from anomaly to stalker but the number is greatly exaggerated

[hazy helm]

Yes, MODDING, not anomaly

there's a lot more

[vale patrol]

It’s definitely not exaggerated Brodie like I said just go watch the video where drewski explains it

[faint vector]

Anomaly is a mod, full conversions keep things new and interesting

[mortal parcel]

Anomaly is the most well known and played mod for stalker so... but yes, there's much more than anomaly

[vale patrol]

Or just got ask the anomaly discord folk lmao

[hazy helm]

drewskie
This is exactly what I mean

[warm linden]

who tf is brodie

[vale patrol]

💀💀

[warm linden]

anomaly is not a dynamic mod :D, it doesn't have dynamic questlines or missions that feel fresh and/or underused

[dapper finch]

Sure but it's all very generic to serve the structure of the maps and to leave room for addons, it was built to be a foundation.

[vale patrol]

Agree to disagree then it’s whatever

[hazy helm]

Stalker has survived and would e survived without anomaly becoming popular it is merely another branch on the great tree that is stalker missing which is plural, modding stalker is not concentrated withing anomaly it is merely a small percentage of it

[mortal parcel]

it's the most dynamic mod around but ok

[vale patrol]

But if anomaly don’t get all that hype and new people introducing them to stalker the game ain’t as popular that’s for sure

[mortal parcel]

yes indeed. But saying Anomaly did not participate to keeping the hype around stalker is a lie

[warm linden]

I would know, I played it and other mods to compare
anomaly is the least dynamic out of all of them, all missions are centered around the player completing stuff

[dapper finch]

I think we'll just end up with two communities - the OG community and the hardcore tacticool mod community, it's not like people won't mod S2 as well.

[vale patrol]

All you gotta do is just ask the people who never played it before that started with anomaly in the cord

[mortal parcel]

And Anomaly is a large percentage of played modded stalker

[hazy helm]

CoC still had a vision it wanted to create and base itself around, see 1.5 and the progression it was going for, the first versions were setting stones but the team always wanted and was slowly doing it's own thing

[vale patrol]

Now many of them getting stalker 2

[warm linden]

as a example, bounty missions in anomaly, if the bounty target dies the player gets the reward no matter what, the same goes for much other missions

[mortal parcel]

Just look at the daily downloads of CoC vs Anomaly

[warm linden]

because youtubers bring a lot more attention to it than the main games :D

[hazy helm]

I said that its contributions are greatly exaggerated not that it was insignificant

[mortal parcel]

Because that's where things are happening

[dapper finch]

1.5 never even released did it?

[hazy helm]

?
Ok and?
What?

[hazy helm]

Betas did

[dapper finch]

What's in it?

[vale patrol]

A lot of people started to play the main games and just become generally I teres at ed in stalker because of anomaly that’s the point

Now they on board for stalker 2

[hazy helm]

More hardcore features

https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-chernobyl/addons/coc-15-r7unofficial-patch-all-in-one-repack-reupload

[vale patrol]

When they otherwise probably wouldn’t of not been other than the fact it’s a survival shooter

[hazy helm]

It was at release candidates stage

[warm linden]

But it should not be the main draw to stalker, plus again it bring the wrong expectations

[mortal parcel]

Anomaly federated a huge modding community. That's it. It's popular and keeps getting popular because that's where development is the most active

[worthy lagoon]

It didn't boost that much, and i play since 2008, i know how active the playerbase was before GAMMA and Anomaly, Nikolai was the one that boosted STALKER

Nikolai and Ssethe

[warm linden]

we shouldn't need a mod to get people interested in the main games

[faint vector]

I know the mods here are defending the og games, that's fair. However I'm willing to bet the entire US defense budget that GSC game world is thankful for the efforts of the modding community and the youtubers bringing new players on board for the franchise.

[vale patrol]

What we shouldn’t need and what happened don’t correlate bro 💀

[mortal parcel]

STALKER 2 seems to have tons of survival elements

[hazy helm]

Are you saying stalker is imobile anywhere that's not anomaly or that the great lengths the community is going thru are insignificant when compared to what anomaly modders do?

[warm linden]

they do correlate

[vale patrol]

We shouldn’t lmao but doesn’t mean it didn’t

[dapper finch]

I'm not seeing any info on link. Sorry ModDB is weird.

[hazy helm]

I am defending modding, as a whole, instead of a centralisation of it

[warm linden]

It's a shooter with survival elements ofc it's gonna have it

[mortal parcel]

that's not what I said. I say that Anomaly is the most active non-russian mod concerning stalker. That's why it's popular and "overly represented"

[vale patrol]

Brother you don’t even know what your saying you just said “we shouldn’t need a mod to get people interested in the main games”

Lmao and I said they don’t correlate because just because it shouldn’t take a modded version of the game, it did

[warm linden]

I do know exactly what I'm saying lmao

[hazy helm]

Sure but while Anomaly does do great advancements within itself it shouldn't overshadow the advancements of the other projects that are made within the community

[vale patrol]

And ain’t nothing wrong with that. No problem giving anomaly it’s flowers

[mortal parcel]

Indeed.

[warm linden]

It's popularity comes from youtubers making videos on it 24/7, videos on anomaly/gamma get far more attention than videos on the original trilogy

[warm linden]

the trilogy is overshadowed to the point where most people's first experience is a mod, that's bad

[mortal parcel]

Yes? Because that's where things are happening? The original trilogy has been stagnating since 15 years. The latest news was few weeks ago about the console release of the games, that's it

[hazy helm]

It is bad if the first experience is a mod but that shouldnt restrict what mods do or want to do, and never should

One shouldn't bow down to the lowest common denominator

[vale patrol]

Then why tf lmao did you just say “we shouldn’t need a mod to get people interested in the main games” even though that’s exactly what happened 💀

[warm linden]

anomaly should not be the main drive and should not be the main thing bringing people in lmao

[hazy helm]

It is not moddings fault essentially and saying they are bad for it is p insane

[mortal parcel]

Only die hard fans want "new content" (youtube videos for instance) concerning the original trilogy, and that's hard to do for something that hasn't moved in the past 15 years

[warm linden]

I still feel like it's extremely bad that stalker is only popular thanks to mods

[vale patrol]

Just because it shouldn’t take a mod to bring light to the series that’s WHAT happened lmao

It don’t matter how u may feel

[warm linden]

so everyone who plays the original are "die hard fans"

[dapper finch]

Without centralisation modlists are impossible. Luckilly S2 will solve that issue by not being on an engine that fans need to fix and already includes all maps, it will be centralised from the start.

[vale patrol]

All a numbers thing tbh

[mortal parcel]

because mods are new and bring new things to the franchise. That's about it.

[mortal parcel]

No, people playing the original games for the 20th time are

[warm linden]

they shouldn't be the main draw is my issue

[hazy helm]

And that isn't a bad thing, it merely pushes ppl to fork the game more and more branching it onto other projects which take a light of it's own and are co-opted by other members of the community creating mods within mods, like branches of a tree

[mortal parcel]

I played the games at their release when I was a kid. Good. Why should I do replay them over and over and over and over ?

[warm linden]

That's still a pretty huge thing to say

[vale patrol]

This whole convo just spiraled into a whole bunch of random bs lmao the whole point was just wether or not anomaly brought fans and hype around Stalker and wether or not it would be as popular without it

[dapper finch]

Forks are a trilogy phenomenon, a weird quirk in video game modding

[vale patrol]

And it one hundred percent wouldn’t end of story lmao

[mortal parcel]

yes it did. Just like other mods. But Anomaly is the visible part of the ice berg because it has the biggest and most active modding community

[warm linden]

My main problem is the trilogy is overshadowed by a mod which shouldn't be the case, it should be a part of it not the main draw

[warm linden]

and that's bad for stalker in general

[dapper finch]

You can bet that the S2 modding scene will be Skyrim-like, with small mods that people use in combination

[hazy helm]

And they are the purest form of community driven Modding as opposed to creating packages that anyone can build a castle with many ppl get together to build different castles together

[mortal parcel]

I don't think so. People expecting Stalker 2 to be exactly like the original trilogy are delusional

[hazy helm]

Anomalies modding community while big isn't as big as other projects within the stalker community

[vale patrol]

Well sorry you feel that way man but it is what it is lmao 😭

[hazy helm]

It is well.knwon inside the community yes but it's not the most important chess piece or part of the puzzle

[vale patrol]

And you ain’t even wrong but this whole convo ain’t about how we may feel

It was just about popularity 😭💀

[warm linden]

I'm not saying it should be exactly like the original trilogy but it and the mods shouldn't be such a massive important draw

[mortal parcel]

The most important is OpenXRay Gunslinger, change my mind. But it's the perfect counterpart of Anomaly.

[dapper finch]

Depends how anglocentric we're talking. Most of the non-CoC-branch modding is eastern european or russian

[faint vector]

A conversation about personal opinions is a rabbit hole. It's best to stick to what we know and can prove.

[vale patrol]

And yeah it shouldn’t be overshadowed but it is and it ain’t even nessacarily a full bad thing because it brought eyes and popularity to the series and stalker world

So now people boutta hop on the stalker 2 train

[mortal parcel]

Anomaly = open world free roam.
OpenXRay Gunslinger = original trilogy remaster.

[hazy helm]

OXR and OGSR yes, OXRGA as a bit less contributors, IWP is also gaining a lot of traction as of late, prob will be bolstered when OXRGA releases the tool to adapt weapons to the GA skeleton

[vale patrol]

When they before likely wouldn’t of without anomaly

Ain’t no harm in giving anomaly it’s flowers

[hazy helm]

When I talk stalker modding I never mean a specific part of it but it as a whole, from a eagles eye point of view

[warm linden]

what were we arguing about again?

[hazy helm]

Sorry about the autocorrect

[vale patrol]

It’s ain’t everything obvs the trilogy’s walked so anomaly could run it’s a mod 💀 but now we got 2 coming out and whole flyrry of new fans and player of stalker

[dapper finch]

Sure, but a lot of us don't see that. How many untranslated mods go completely ignored in the english speaking community (die-hards excluded)

[warm linden]

man I forgot what we were even arguing about 😭

[hazy helm]

SoC freeplay walked so CoC could run, so that Anomaly could stumble on a bunch of weapon parts

[mortal parcel]

Also I think Anomaly popularity speaks for itself: people want to be immersed in a game where you are just a random stalker doing stalker things in the Zone. GSC understood that and they clearly said that they want to please this part of the community as well as story enjoyers

[granite mortar]

Whats this about?

[worthy lagoon]

Then why do I keep playing vanilla?

[granite mortar]

I only saw something somethin OGSR GA

[hazy helm]

Yes which is why we need to highlight the less known parts of the community instead of tunnel visioning into the most well known projects, which is what I always encourage

[vale patrol]

Like I said brother agree to disagree you had already said ur point earlier 💀

[warm linden]

^^^

[hardy bear]

I really hope the story is a good one. The setup for it at the moment has so much potential

[warm linden]

^^^

[warm linden]

anomaly's popularity and overshadowing stalker and mods

[vale patrol]

I one hundred percent don’t think that’s the case and even numbers wise it don’t make sense but you cans have your Oooo ion it’s all good

[granite mortar]

Ewww
Anomaly

[mortal parcel]

Anomaly is a good platform and that's about it. The base anomaly mechanics and gameplay are very bad. That's why it got modded to death

[vale patrol]

Wtf autocorrect

[hazy helm]

💀 the story tidbits we saw say SMTH else

[vale patrol]

Wanna work then don’t 💀

[granite mortar]

Omg
Based Grok take

[hazy helm]

I wouldnt call Anomaly a good platform due to its bugs and quirks hamepring it's ability to give modders full control

[dapper finch]

This

[mortal parcel]

if Anomaly was good from the get go, I wouldn't have to spend so much time making GAMMA and redoing so many of the base mechanics

[worthy lagoon]

Can we blame Drewski

[granite mortar]

Its good platform for addons, not for total conversions

[dapper finch]

Though... Gamma seems worse to me

[warm linden]

yes, it's drewskis fault this argument even happened

[granite mortar]

Anomaly being shit gave us OWA
So thats good

[hazy helm]

It fights even slightly more complex add-ons, I'm not talking full blown conversions, the holdouts from Last Day hamper it's ability to let modders freely make do with it

[mortal parcel]

It's centered around crafting and scavenging and survival. You can turn it into a more classical money farming and gear buy game in 2 clicks though, thus ignoring most of the "survival game" aspects of the game easily

[hazy helm]

It chains itself due to its past and it wouldn't suprise me if in 1.6 the Devs fix by deleting all the Last Day holdouts that is
If they want modding Anomaly to be better

[faint vector]

Stalker 2 will be it's own thing. I feel as if it'll take everything from what we loved about the trilogy games and reuse it. But also not give oversight to everything games like anomaly or gamma did.

There will also be new formulas, stuff we haven't seen before. And I believe most people who aren't delusional will realize that. The trilogy was great at being the first, and bringing a beautiful world and formula. Anomaly and gamma brought new ideas, improved upon what was missing from og games. It's like improving the foundation of a 300 year old building and making it better, but still remembering the significance of the original.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk. Trilogy good, mods good, stalker good. They work hand in hand.

[granite mortar]

I wouldnt say its just last day
Even today devs add stuff modders who want to make bigger mods have to work around
Its a mess but since it got lot of features, its easy to edit them to your liking
Its good for beginners making small gameplay changes
Ans thats about it

[mortal parcel]

We have full control, and I don't know what you are talking about. And bugs can be fixed.

[warm linden]

anyway I'm gonna take a break now :333, have fun arguing

[dapper finch]

Yeah it's possible they took inspiration from some mods like the first person animations

[hazy helm]

Your control is restricted a whole lot more than other mods in the community

[worthy lagoon]

Can you elaborate on the new ideas that were implemented in S2 thanks to Anomaly and Gamma?

[mortal parcel]

pretty much this

[mortal parcel]

how so ?

[worthy lagoon]

That's just 2024 lol

And

Gunslinger

[dapper finch]

First person animations, improved stash mechanics, free-play before finishing the story... uh...

[worthy lagoon]

Who said there's going to be free play before finishing the story?

[warm linden]

^^^

[dapper finch]

Did you not watch the deep dive?

[mortal parcel]

Did you actually watch the deep dive ? Probably not, too busy playing the original trilogy

[worthy lagoon]

Improved stash mechanics?? It seems that it's a mix of SoC and Cop

[granite mortar]

CoP let you do freeplay
So did SoC
SoC was designed so you can go anywhere you want when you want
At least in the south, but hey, after Scorcher there wasnt much space for freeplay anyways

[hazy helm]

The scripting is worse than other places and the maps sources being closed make sure you can't manage them, they were open now but even so they are obtuse and difficult to use which makes anyone looking to mod turn away

[dapper finch]

Warfare possibly? They said about faction leaders being replaced

[prisma goblet]

Am I the only one who likes cutscenes?

[faint vector]

In the deep dive, numerous scenes of animations interacting with the world similar to how mods mostly known from Gamma or anomaly did. Such as animations of equipping weapons, clothing and eating. As well as the ability to customize weapons with addons, larger mags and so on (that can also be seen on the actual weapon)

[worthy lagoon]

There will still be locked areas such as the CNPP that you will eventually have to unlock with the story

And CoP had free play before ending

[hazy helm]

Sorry are you saying that eating animations are there BC of Gamma or Anomaly?

[mortal parcel]

Scripting, I don't see why. Mapping, I totally agree, that's the one issue of Anomaly

[dapper finch]

Locations gated behind missions in both of those games

(which I'm totally fine with)

[faint vector]

I'm saying the animations we saw in the deep dive were strikingly similar to those seen in gamma.

[dapper finch]

Honestly I'm anxious how they'll mesh true free roam with a storyline, most games suck at that

[granite mortar]

Because doing story in full freeplay is hard to balance and even harder to make it not break the game

[mortal parcel]

Well tbh it's just "modern FPS with some survival aspect"

[faint vector]

Yeah true, tarkov inspiration and what not.

[hazy helm]

Anomaly by itself is a lot more buggy and the engine isn't as updated or as welcoming to modders as other offerings are

[hazy helm]

What? No they aren't

[hazy helm]

What?

AMK ruined

Millions must suffer

[warm linden]

anyway baiii :3

[mortal parcel]

Quite potentially. But I don't see any other project trying to replace Anomaly though

[worthy lagoon]

Again, animations are to be expected since it's 2024 (and tbh looks more like Gunslinger rather than Anomaly and GAMMA animations since they all take too long), I haven't seen any clothing animation the ability to customise weapons with addons was already a thing in the trilogy (upgrades, scopes etc), larger mags too

[dapper finch]

If we're being honest the first person animations stuff is just the natural extension of Stalker's immersive quality

[mortal parcel]

most new engines etc are mainly to play the original games in some modern ways with better performance

[worthy lagoon]

*More like gunslinger

[granite mortar]

OXR is much better ngl
Its faster, cleaner, more stable
Same with AXR AND IXR

[mortal parcel]

Meanwhile I was playing the original games just fine with an ATi X1950 Pro back in 2007 so...

[hazy helm]

the stalker community has been using the same consumable animations for years and years which are slow and clunky by nature, meanwhile, stalker 2 uses speedy responsive and bombastic animations completely unlike what these modes do
Which are older than anomaly mind you
@faint vector

[dapper finch]

It's weird how the S2 animations for food imply barely eating it

[hazy helm]

The modern engines are made to be compatible with the old games but are still their own thing used to do their own projects, I assume you're viewing OXR as your base

[worthy lagoon]

Devs adding animations like Gunslinger (fast paced) in 2024 with S2 being an AAA game

Omg it's from GAMMA and Anomaly!!!!

[mortal parcel]

yeah I agree. But it's not really important

[hazy helm]

GA animations are slow and shitty, it's diff

[faint vector]

My original point was mostly focused on saying that gsc also took inspiration on mods. I'm by no means an expert at all, I'm mostly just trying to say "Hey cool, the developer of the original games recognize the efforts of it's fans."

[worthy lagoon]

Way faster than Anomaly and GAMMA

[hazy helm]

I am glad that STALKER 2 is going for the fast animations as it's a ACTION ADVENTURE game first and foremost

[mortal parcel]

I aim at fast and responsive animations in GAMMA. And actually made quite few animations faster for the sake of gameplay

[faint vector]

Same, it's a Story driven FPS first and foremost. With survival aspects aplenty.

[hazy helm]

Why are animations a mod related improvement when they are an industry standard for every game nowadays, that I don't get, BC a mod had them?

[worthy lagoon]

Weren't you answering about GAMMA and Anomaly specifically lol?

[hazy helm]

Is NA7 having helmets also inspiring S2 to do the same?

[worthy lagoon]

I genuinely don't see any ideas taken from Anomaly and GAMMA that are implemented in S2

[faint vector]

I brought that point up before as the argument during that time were about those specifically, but I was slow to keep up with the argument lol

[worthy lagoon]

Imma say that GSC took inspiration from LA because they introduced drinking and sleeping need

[dawn grotto]

you guys think stalker 2 will have mods compatibility some how

[mortal parcel]

Yep I agree. Although we did not see any mechanics related to gear progression. But I don't think there will be much crafting etc

[worthy lagoon]

Yes

[hazy helm]

No AMK or RTTZ mentioned
Millions shidsing

[faint vector]

Oh 100%

[dawn grotto]

as in what though

[hazy helm]

Billions even

[hazy helm]

Elaborate

[dawn grotto]

simple texture changes, models and animations?

[worthy lagoon]

That was my main point, it's just two different experiences meant to be different, GSC has their own original view of STALKER

[dawn grotto]

hell a whole conversion mod like stalker anomaly

[mortal parcel]

Indeed and that's good.

[hazy helm]

Depends on the SDK but modding UE has become better and better in the coming years so I don't think you have to worry to much

[dawn grotto]

lets goooo

[worthy lagoon]

[worthy lagoon]

LA came out first

[mortal parcel]

STALKER 2 modding will happen. When? Impossible to say, it could take years.

[hazy helm]

WRONG

AMK came out in like 2008

[worthy lagoon]

Shortly after S2 release

[worthy lagoon]

Wait really?

[hazy helm]

🤏

Yhea

[mortal parcel]

Depends on the tools available

[worthy lagoon]

Whole SDK

[hazy helm]

First Total Conversion mod for Stalker

[worthy lagoon]

And mod tools

[faint vector]

I feel like gsc will add modding compatability rather quickly, after dlc's are released and whatever new content they have planned.

[hazy helm]

*after release

[worthy lagoon]

Ye

Probably after MP update

[faint vector]

Well "quickly" is rather vague but you get the gist

[worthy lagoon]

Or before

[mortal parcel]

As I said, it could take years before release. Take Metro Exodus as an example

[worthy lagoon]

I doubt

[hazy helm]

Don't, metro SDK fucking sucks

[worthy lagoon]

GSC takes modding as a priority

[hazy helm]

I am not downgrading my NVIDIA drivers

LMAO

[worthy lagoon]

In Metro modding was unknown

[mortal parcel]

Well if you think S2 will release smoothly without bugs etc, you are mislead

[hazy helm]

There are Metro 2033 and Redux mods

A whole story mod

Yknow

[mortal parcel]

It will take months of iterative patching to be "how it should be" I think

[worthy lagoon]

No, my point was that GSC has the interest in releasing the tools as soon as possible because modding is also one of their promises and core functions

[dim topaz]

confirmed for release

[worthy lagoon]

After release

[hazy helm]

GSC as much more than interest, it is almost obligated to as what the community mostly does is modding

[faint vector]

Take a guess, how long for a romance mod.

[worthy lagoon]

Exactly

[worthy lagoon]

There will be women

[dim topaz]

that's multiplayer

[hazy helm]

AlternativA Romance mod you mean???

[worthy lagoon]

Vasim will cry

[dawn grotto]

Hips remastered

[mortal parcel]

Indeed, but there will be a lot to do and modding comes second

[worthy lagoon]

Mod support and mod tools will be released after release

[hazy helm]

And sdk as well

[faint vector]

Oh god xD

[hazy helm]

We get to kill her again?awesome

Total hip death

Complete obliteration

Fucking destruction

[hardy bear]

here's hoping it isn't too bad

[faint vector]

If there is a romance in the game, I hope they don't do it like Anna from metro lmao

[hazy helm]

It already exists, for AlternativA no less, which is weird

[worthy lagoon]

They won't, i doubt there will be any romance

[hazy helm]

Yous think it would be for Reborn but ah well

[dawn grotto]

imagine if someone remastered shadow of chernobyl as a mod in stalker 2

[dim topaz]

the only romance is one with the zone

[faint vector]

Skif is too much of a chad to waste time on dating

[worthy lagoon]

Imagine is @hazy helm is forced to do romance in S2

[dawn grotto]

[worthy lagoon]

He's gonna die

[faint vector]

I will marry the wishgranter

[hazy helm]

Never gonna happen

[dawn grotto]

blaize you read chainsaw man right?

[hazy helm]

Hoax

[worthy lagoon]

Are you sure? Have you asked Mol1t?

[hazy helm]

It's a lie

@glossy blade back me up bro

[worthy lagoon]

@glossy blade will romance be in S2?

If he throws an NDA i will be worried

[dim topaz]

of course

[faint vector]

"3 hours of cutscenes"

20 minutes of steamy stalker action? Witcher 3 style?

[dawn grotto]

theres a leak on the next chapter you will absolutely hate it

[sly matrix]

disclaimer: stalking someone is not the same as romance

[glossy blade]

[hazy helm]

[glossy blade]

[dim topaz]

Seriously doubt that but we'll see. chapter is out in 5 hours anyway. I'll get back to you

[dawn grotto]

PLEASE ADD MY MOMMY HIPS

[faint vector]

For some reason looking at the cutscenes they look weirdly like they'll involve quick time events.

[worthy lagoon]

At least it's not an NDA

[hardy bear]

Wait something is coming out today?

[sly matrix]

aaaand that's how mol1t left chat again...

[dawn grotto]

[nimble cipher]

hijax666 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glossy blade]

I hide in my cavern, together with questions

[worthy lagoon]

You're cooked, you're gonna have to do romance, romance with a FLESH

[faint vector]

Damn...

[worthy lagoon]

*NDAs

[dawn grotto]

how is multiplayer even gonna work

[hazy helm]

Shot her in the head
Crumple her with a hammer
Bury her alive
Burn her in the stove
There's a lot of ways to kill hip

[dim topaz]

like the original I assume

[dawn grotto]

is it like open world multiplayer or a death match

[faint vector]

Probably just deathmatch like the og

[worthy lagoon]

Found with a stone around her neck

[faint vector]

Shot by loners

[dawn grotto]

imagine if stalker gets an esports with deathmatch then

[hazy helm]

It won't have coop and it won't be like dayz

I assume itll be like a polished version of the OG multiplayer

[faint vector]

Like DayZ would be crazy (not in the good way lmao)

[hardy bear]

Should be fun

[faint vector]

I hope it'll be more controlled. Like round based and not just "You just joined and everything is already going to shit"

[hazy helm]

I just want SoC multiplayer without the fucked netcode

Rawdogged

Absolutely shitfucked even

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-marvel-avengers-gif-14328153

[finite dragon]

you click but it doesnt do action cause latency

[faint vector]

Now time to figure out how long it will take for a "Stalker 2: Together" mod

[worthy lagoon]

Imagine NLC7 but MMO

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[granite mortar]

AlternativA my beloved

[dawn grotto]

i hope stalker 2's game economy is as poor as the soviet union

[granite mortar]

USSR was biggest/second biggest economy for good part of its existence

[hazy helm]

That would suck

[granite mortar]

what you meant are living standards

[hazy helm]

I hope they do it CS style

[dawn grotto]

but isin't the original stalker was bad like it

[earnest bear]

Or Stalker 2 misery

[dawn grotto]

or am i just playing too much stalker anomaly

i still cant forget the fact that bandages cost 5000 roubles and bread like 3000

[hazy helm]

No

[faint vector]

If stalker 2 get's delayed again I'm gonna drop harder than the ruble in 1991

[dawn grotto]

a whole new refurbished gun is like 25k+

[hazy helm]

Stalker economy is very manageable and fair

You get guns from scavenging but medical supplies and food is always cheap

And ammo depends on who is sellingj

[worthy lagoon]

Hello Vasim, it's me, your beloved game, Stalker CoP

[hazy helm]

It isn't muh hardcore shooter where you pay out the wazoo for 2 bullets of 9x19

[hazy helm]

I hope they go the CS style
The balance of CoP.is so damn boring

[earnest bear]

Will Stalker 2 use rouble or Ukrainian currency

[faint vector]

That's actually a good question

[hazy helm]

Koupons

[dapper finch]

Neither

[faint vector]

Tokens lol

"Zone Coin"

[dapper finch]

I think it's a cryptocurrency, see the icon

[solid dome]

Molit struggling with my questions again

[dawn grotto]

SO MUCH LOOT TO SCAVENGE IMPOSSIBLEEEE

[glossy blade]

there are hundreds of them...

[dawn grotto]

instead of getting 10 quest just for 1 gun you can just scavenge for it!?!

[solid dome]

I have prepped at least 40 more and counting, brodman. Hang tight

[granite mortar]

answer mine first
ignore others :3

[faint vector]

I remember in the bolts and bullets trailer a dead soldier has a full ass gun with 100 rounds of ammo

Like dayum

[hazy helm]

SoC has a lot of hidden items in each level that hide weapons and armour, and in CS and CoP the main way to acquire guns is to get them off your enemies

[sly matrix]

Or stashes in CoP's case

[somber hawk]

CoP only has a couple good stashes with guns or armour

[sly matrix]

Enough to make a difference, which is more than the stashes in CS

[somber hawk]

CoP stashes are basically either very good or bad

[worthy lagoon]

90% are from Krezzin

[solid dome]

I'm warming up still...

[rocky trellis]

there's more than just a couple though good stashes in Jupiter. And quite good amount if we count all the loot that isn't put into a stash, but otherwise hidden loot

[sly matrix]

good way of getting yourself filtered out entirely... careful bro

[solid dome]

I am only asking stuff nobody else asked though, duplicating questions is a huge no-no

[rocky trellis]

but Zaton loot and stashes... whoever put them there was stingy 😂

[solid dome]

I mean not abusing the system, whoever does, his problem

[rocky trellis]

only remember the bridge having actually good amount of value, with some mid stashes here and there

Btw anyone noticed anything new or interesting in the gameplay footage?

[lean quiver]

yellow paint 💀

enemies showing in compass...

[solid cosmos]

Frog

[lean quiver]

some fishes too

[faint vector]

[solid cosmos]

I noticed a new anomaly of some sort. Looked like a spiderweb.

[faint vector]

There was that freeze anomaly, that had like spikes floating yeah

[rocky trellis]

to me it seem like a type of electric anomaly? Some kind of stasis?

[faint vector]

Yeah like a stasis anomaly

It had thorns or something in stasis that the "player" walked into and took damage

[rocky trellis]

Didn't take a too good look, but the enemy in the church looked like a cat of some sort, possibly what was cut from previous games but completely reworked?

[lean quiver]

kinda dissapointed the gravity anomaly don´t affect grass

[faint vector]

I think it could like mimic human voices or sum, I just remember hearing a stalker talking in the church but there was only the cat/lynx

[dapper finch]

Yes the Bayun mimics people

[rocky trellis]

Very creepy for sure

[dapper finch]

It's like the bear from Annihilation

[broken latch]

Oh boy

[faint vector]

Yeah it existed as a taxidermy mutant in SoC

[solid cosmos]

I think it's called Razor. That anomaly we were talking about.

[faint vector]

Makes sense

[tender torrent]

#📜┃ask-gsc asked this question, we will answer it for you

[solid cosmos]

I only know this cause it's in the GSC-answers area lol

[faint vector]

Nice to see anomalies that can also benefit you, would be cool too see some anomalies that heal you, or stop bleeding. Maybe a deflector type of thing that stops bullets.

[solid cosmos]

Well if stalker 2 keeps the same mechanic that shadow of chernobyl had where you can repair your suit and heal in certain anomalies if you had 4 of a certain type of artefact then that'd do it

[faint vector]

Hmm, I was more thinking some cool new anomalies that just straight up heal you. But also maybe inflicts you with some kind of negative status effect at the same time

[lean quiver]

wasn´t that an elaborate glitch

[solid cosmos]

No, there was 4 anomaly types [electro, whirligig, fire and the puddle that I can't remember the name of] and an artifact for each.

[faint vector]

fruitpunch

[solid cosmos]

Thank you

[faint vector]

gotchu

[hardy bear]

that would be super cool actually! A dynamic piece of cover if you will

[faint vector]

Ye there were 4 different kinds of artifacts. I think it was like, gravity/protection, electric/stamina, fire/statusprotection and fruitpunch/chemicalprotection

[rocky trellis]

Call of Pripyat also introduced a new type of anomaly though, whatever space bubble thing it was. Also those teleporting anomalies that aren't exactly a proper anomaly?

[celest blaze]

"Question:
will A-Life 2.0 be in the final game? or will there be any showcasing of A-Life prior to release?
Answered by:
@glossy blade
Answer:
a-life is still in the game. Our showcase plans are under NDA"

i knew it folks were panicking about alife lol

[rocky trellis]

ops, did you ping molt again?

[celest blaze]

oops

[hardy bear]

i mean, it was confirmed literal years ago so I'm surprised people forgot

[faint vector]

I think I've seen one of those in like anomaly or gamma. It was called "Deflector" and would repel bolts you throw at it. But it wasn't coded to protect against bullets which sucked

Would be super cool to see anomalies you could use in fights to your advantage.

[celest blaze]

AYO man i saw that and thought my mod was broken lol

[solid cosmos]

Electro, Shell, Pellicle and Spring were the four.

[faint vector]

Yeeee

[solid cosmos]

I always carried 4 electro with me lmao, cause I always ended up in electro anomalies.

[dapper finch]

Reminds me of that ratchet and clank weapon that would suck up enemy fire to shoot back

[solid cosmos]

or well.. Battery is what they were called I guess.

[rocky trellis]

Do have to wonder if there's going to be multiple new mutants though. Any confirmed ones I've missed out?

[solid cosmos]

Only like new mutant I think that is still confirmed is the deer. Psy-deer or something idk. It was in a article about the game a few years back

[dapper finch]

CoP also has the oasis anomaly and the ventilation complex space anomaly seems to involve time travel

[dapper finch]

Bayun if that counts

[brave wagon]

Question:
Most interactable objects in DD was marked with yellow paint. Its understandable solution, but I personally would like to turn it off. Its not an element of UI, so will it be possible?
Answered by:
@glossy blade
Answer:
There are many setting you can change, you can even turn off the HUD or its parts for better immersion

[dapper finch]

Poor pinged mol1t 😦

[rocky trellis]

people pinging mol1t by copy pasting questions 😂

[lean quiver]

Zombie AI dissapointed me a lot, they just stood there without shooting, and the controller barely did something

[solid cosmos]

I am unsure if Mol1t understood the question exactly tbh, but that's nice.

[rocky trellis]

the grass might be good enough to break line of sight

[dapper finch]

No more getting sniped from nowhere in swamps. The x-ray vision in the trilogy was such a pain

[lean quiver]

they are zombies...they just shoot erratically

and shit, if i saw someone hiding in grass and i had an automatic weapon i would empty the mag on that shit

[solid cosmos]

Oh! We can peek in doors now so that's interesting.

[rocky trellis]

to me the zombie behavior seemed very normal if we compare to Call of Pripyat version of them. Some of them were even completely chill, but what they all had in common was beyond lethardic reaction time

[faint vector]

The entire scenario was custom for the deep dive, as well as the ai. If you see the bolts and bullets trailer the ai sucked at combat too. It won’t be like that during release as has been said by the devs

[rocky trellis]

don't think they were ever meant to be actually dangerous enemies

[brave wagon]

all of these showcases were on the easiest diff. btw ppl are ignoring that

[solid cosmos]

I'll probably play on the easiest difficulty and just vibe for a while on my first playthrough.

[celest blaze]

^^^

[faint vector]

I want the real quick save sim (playing on the hardest to prove something to myself)

[dapper finch]

Yeah I tend to play on the 2nd difficulty because it's enough to stop you being careless but not so much that instant death interrupts the flow

[calm bough]

Anomalous is already 10 energy drinks in making his video

[solid cosmos]

Running naked through the swamp on master just to feel something when you get got by a chimera

[lean quiver]

Real men play on easiest difficulty and then crank it to maximum after learning the mechanics

[rocky trellis]

I usually start games on 2nd hardest

[solid cosmos]

real men play on easiest the entire game then crank it to max for the last 2 minutes of the game to cheese difficulty achievements

[celest blaze]

based AF

[hardy bear]

Can’t tell if that’s meant to be a keyhole view or slowly opening the door

[dapper finch]

or just play on what you find enjoyable 🤷

[glossy blade]

real men play on easiest the entire game to replicate their real power in game

[celest blaze]

i played master most of the trilogy but there was times i had to turn it down

[solid cosmos]

I think slowly opening the door

[dapper finch]

haunted house creek

[solid cosmos]

Mol1t jumpscare

[dapper finch]

Sayonara

[rocky trellis]

What do you mean? If a single F5 and F9 doesn't solve your problems, make it 10... or 50 reloads... eventually it will somehow work out

[solid cosmos]

Thank you for answering questions, Mol1t

[faint vector]

I like being an npc and dying to literally everything lmao

My ass is NOT the main character

[dapper finch]

Hard difficulties are great for ironman characters. Today I will be a hapless grunt who will die in an anomaly

[celest blaze]

i had to do the clear sky ending 3 times as it crashed, then glitched and finally said screw this and turned it to easy and speedran

[calm bough]

How many times have you played through Stalker 2 Molt?

[faint vector]

He is literally me

Life is fragile, I want everything to hit me like a freight train

[dapper finch]

Snork approves

[rocky trellis]

I like the master difficulty because it makes you feel more like an average person in the zone, you either just get lucky enough to not die a single time, or use the power of F5 and F9 😂

[brave wagon]

i wonder who sits in sid's bunker in stalker 2

[hardy bear]

Not really sure how useful that will be unless opening doors makes a loud enough sound to be detected

[dapper finch]

Sid, he doesn't exercise

[calm bough]

only the third hardest difficulty the one before master

[naive fog]

Sid, but he's gonna have long luscious gray locks

[dapper finch]

Ah the almighty F5 grenade shield/trap

[naive fog]

Im real excited to see how hard master is tbh

[rocky trellis]

Hopefully Chimeras are still in the game, who doesn't want a random heart attack?

[naive fog]

In the trilogy it's just way too easy imo

[rocky trellis]

the start is decently hard enough, it's just that getting good gear makes things far easier

[brave wagon]

currently playing SoC with only autumn aurora on master diff. such a blast

[celest blaze]

👑

[rocky trellis]

but also fun to play modded where start is a nightmare and good gear makes fights kinda fair 😂

[celest blaze]

ONG

[rocky trellis]

except chimeras... either you f them up first or they f you up

[faint vector]

A 15 year older Sid

[celest blaze]

if you want a fun sandbox call of the zone is awesome at nighttime you can get get jumped by 2 or 3 chimeras even in the cordon

[brave wagon]

i hope thats real

[naive fog]

Imagine Sid dies

[faint vector]

You either hit them with a 50. Cal. Or a KS-23.

Or you get lost to the zone

[faint vector]

Review bomb

[celest blaze]

or saiga 12

[faint vector]

That shit better have hollow point slugs then

[naive fog]

Im also really interested to see how the mutant spawning will be

[ripe hinge]

boohoooooo MUH WEAPON

[naive fog]

Cause if there's a controller just walking round pump station ...

[rocky trellis]

RPG is the most ethical way to fight chimeras

[celest blaze]

tbh in cotz master you can melt a chimera with buckshot in a few seconds

[faint vector]

Nah that was just for the DD. It’ll most likely be balanced same way SoC was

[celest blaze]

saiga 12 fully upgraded can fire 12 buckshot rounds in like 2 seconds

[faint vector]

Boars and dogs in the south. Further you go north the harder it gets

[hardy bear]

That cat that mimics cries is fantastic though, hope we hear more of it, potentially with a more accurate imitation

[rocky trellis]

would be funny if we first see that mimicry and then later ignore somebody that actually needs help 😂

[deep flower]

I'm kinda torn about the pre-order for Stalker 2 locking extra missions behind, what's your guys opinion?

[ripe hinge]

what r u on about

[naive fog]

GSC can take my money

They deserve it anyways

[ripe hinge]

u can save up 20 bucks for 3 months and preorder before the release

🤣

[brave wagon]

im planning to buy ultimate edition on epic but worried about future mod compatability. the game is 3x cheaper on epic in my country

[deep flower]

yeah ig they do deserve it for some the best game of all time

[ripe hinge]

epic is a disgusting platform

[rocky trellis]

bro, there is no extra quest for pre order.

[faint vector]

Metro had the same, and they were so worth it. Not sure how it’ll be in stalker 2. But I have faith.

[wet lark]

It depends if its dlc content or if theyre just locking parts of the story behind missions you gotta pay for

[deep flower]

the 2 expansions will dlc right?

[rocky trellis]

"Extended campfire content
Exclusive weapon skin
Exclusive armor skin
'Early bird' multiplayer badge" is what you get for pre order, not a mission

[naive fog]

Man I wanna replay CS and the entirety of Metro so bad but I don't have a processor

[brave wagon]

do you think that ppl are gonna have issues bcs they bought the game on epic? thats the point im worried about rn

[wet lark]

Is metro exodus worth playing

[pearl jacinth]

goochi goochi goo

[ripe hinge]

no

[naive fog]

Ok here's my opinion on it:

[ripe hinge]

its fake openworld game

[rocky trellis]

I was surprised how good metro exodus was. 100% worth the purchase, but 0 regrets about buying on sale because F U epic

[ripe hinge]

running simulator that game

[deep flower]

Yeah if it is something minor, I just fear it is a side quest or story related

[naive fog]

It's a real good game that I enjoyed, the hardest difficulty was real hard but its just not idk Metroy.

[wet lark]

So its a good game but not a good metro game

[naive fog]

It's good for both but

[ripe hinge]

whats hes saying is its ass and its 10 euros for deluxe off 3rd party sites for a reason

[naive fog]

💀

[naive fog]

It's not the same as 2033 and LL, much less time spent in the metro and the clothings of people are less scavenged and more scavenged + made

The clothes are a lot more post apoc

[rocky trellis]

which makes sense since more time has passed

[naive fog]

Still tho, I really liked it anyways

[rocky trellis]

do have to agree that it's different compared to previous games due to spending less time in crammed spaces and more out in the open

[naive fog]

That's what is kinda meh for me cause I really liked all the cramped corridors and tunnels, I feel at home there

Ok no maybe I play too much metro 💀

[rocky trellis]

Hopefully doesn't resemble your IRL home too much

oh wait... went back to check pre order bonus... multiplayer badge? Somehow forgot about that completely. Is it pvp or pve multiplayer?

[tender torrent]

it's crazy to see the comparison of yesterday's gameplay compared to the previous trilogy, we find that after almost fifteen years there has been a real evolution in the graphics of video games in general, we are not used to seeing such change, facing games that were 15 years ago, it's like a maturing toy

[naive fog]

Like in the ogs

[rocky trellis]

got it

[naive fog]

dm, tdm that kinda stuff

[rocky trellis]

I do remember playing stalker for a long while and after multiple months since starting noticed there's actually multiplayer 😂

[naive fog]

💀

[rocky trellis]

somehow just never paid attention to the menu too much, just want to get back in you know

[naive fog]

I have a ton of shit I didn't know until more recent playthroughs

I only found out about NVGs in SoC on my 5th playthrough

[celest blaze]

to be fair stalker mp has never been the focus

[naive fog]

Ye

[naive fog]

My ass was running round with a flashlight the whole time

[rocky trellis]

guess there was that survarium, forgor did it have anything to do with the team working on this tho?

[celest blaze]

if there was MP i feel we should get a stalker 2 online version of the map so we can have faction wars

[celest blaze]

same haha

[ripe hinge]

who up wonkin they willy

[rocky trellis]

No more keyboard warrioring... into the game, grab your guns and blast those supporting incorrect faction to prove your own faction is the superior one

[naive fog]

Kvasstacular Kvassoholik Kvassman group

[ripe hinge]

they live in my walls

[deep flower]

so will the "Special Extra Quest" be dlc later on?

[rocky trellis]

Hmm... after seeing that gameplay footage feel like wouldn't mind pre ordering the game. Do have to wonder what's that extended campfire content going to be though. A minigame? More songs/music?

[celest blaze]

wish i could read ukranian so i could see what some of these questions were

[indigo marsh]

Google lens

[fleet cosmos]

I think they need to delay Stalker 2 even further. I think it's going to be held back by Consoles taking the "front and center"....and will not deliver at launch. Was amped about a year ago....

[celest blaze]

thats a dumb take

[indigo marsh]

Take a screenshot and put it through Google lens

[fleet cosmos]

how is that a dumb take?

[celest blaze]

thank you

[naive fog]

I can read Ukrainian but I can't understand all of it lmao

[celest blaze]

because it's not correct

[fleet cosmos]

how is it not correct...

[celest blaze]

how is it correct

[fleet cosmos]

because that's literally what the latest dev vlog "deep dive" was imo. It seemed more like an arcade COD type game, not Stalker.

[naive fog]

Second newest one was bout the release date

[celest blaze]

have you played the trilogy? or has grok corrupted your mind lol

[naive fog]

Bro what 💀💀💀

[celest blaze]

dudes a gamma player its normal

[deep flower]

I got questions about the gunslinger mod for COP, how do you obtain the MP5SD?

[celest blaze]

stalker NEVER was a tacticool milsim its always been arcady

[fleet cosmos]

negative.

[celest blaze]

you never played the games it seems

[dapper finch]

How? It looked like stalker, plus some menu adjustments for a gamepad

[celest blaze]

fr

people like to cope

[dapper finch]

hatecope is a thing?

[naive fog]

Broooooo, we don't have Sid confirmation

[granite mortar]

when have you palyed Stalker?

[celest blaze]

it appears so yes

[granite mortar]

did we play the same Stalker?

[naive fog]

Last question was about him and mol1t just said heh

[celest blaze]

i beat the trilogy like 2 months ago stalker 2 looks and feels just like it

[granite mortar]

Common Mol1t W

[fleet cosmos]

the game has been built to prioritize CONSOLE and not PC.

[naive fog]

No sid confirmation tho, something could've happened to sid

[celest blaze]

wanna provide some sources ?

[granite mortar]

no
its just has Console support and they want to show it
Since GSC is backed up by Microsoft and by extension, Xbox

[dapper finch]

What does that even mean. The Series X is equivalent to a reasonably beefy PC anyway.

[celest blaze]

^

series x is better some peoples pc here haha

[granite mortar]

getting funding from Console company and then releasing PC only game would be peak disrespect

[granite mortar]

[celest blaze]

plus stalker games went to console aswell

[naive fog]

Guys good news

[rocky trellis]

only that compass at the top maybe a bit too much, and those gigantic icons for pickups, but otherwise whatever 😂

[celest blaze]

you can disable that aswell

[granite mortar]

[naive fog]

I finally got one of the boys to get stalker

[celest blaze]

aye

[granite mortar]

[fleet cosmos]

https://x.com/stalker_thegame/status/1823026412602995031?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1823026412602995031|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=

[naive fog]

Took a bit of convincing and shit but it happened, he's playin SoC

[fleet cosmos]

it's not even close, but ok.

[rocky trellis]

it means people going to need a stronger PC than console to reach same performance

[celest blaze]

some people are using a 2070 lol

or even weaker

[fleet cosmos]

doesn't seem like it's been built for PC with a port to console, but seems the reverse.

[hardy bear]

1660 is still one of the most used according to steam’s hardware survey, so not even that

[celest blaze]

it was always built for pc

[fleet cosmos]

source?

[celest blaze]

the trilogy man stop console coping

[fleet cosmos]

Stalker 2 I'm talking about...not Stalker 1

[granite mortar]

I like how you completely ignored the question about what "stalker" you played if S2 feels arcadey

[wooden girder]

Game looks great

[dapper finch]

That's true regardless. UE5 development for PC and console is basically the same with a different export process.

[celest blaze]

he's prob a troll honestly

[fleet cosmos]

it's been downgraded

[granite mortar]

more like..
retard

[wooden girder]

What you thought it was goona be

[dapper finch]

did you only watch the stream? I thought so too, watch the 4k video

[celest blaze]

do most people here even have pcs that max stalker 2 ?

[dapper finch]

Not even close

Many have PCs that won't even run it 😛

[granite mortar]

oh noooooo
devs made the game more acessible by optimizing noooooo
tehy cant do this
they can NOT keep getting away with optimizing games noooo

[fleet cosmos]

i watched it in 4k.....

[wooden girder]

Nope even if they did it will stutter and lag like hell

[celest blaze]

do you even have a 4k monitor ?

[dapper finch]

So what downgrade?

[rocky trellis]

I remember seeing people claiming that Elden Ring looks worse than some other games that clearly looks worse than Elden Ring... turns out that dumbass was watching in 360 or 720p

[dapper finch]

I'm not just a fanboy, if it looked shit I'd say so

[celest blaze]

@fleet cosmos hasnt played the trilogy and it shows

[fleet cosmos]

I hope I'm wrong, really do...I hope the game breaks record number of sales and is the best FPS ever built.

[hardy bear]

Not sure how you you got the idea that it’s built for consoles first in that video

The only thing that could possibly hint towards that is a weapon wheel, which already exists

[fleet cosmos]

there has been more gameplay for console than PC

[naive fog]

Bro youre a classic you just joined today after good news to complain 💀

[dapper finch]

Other than gamepad UI, because it's running on PC with a gamepad (typically done for trailers for smooth camera movement)

[granite mortar]

no

[hardy bear]

That showcase was on pc

[fleet cosmos]

how so?

[granite mortar]

all the gameplay was on PC
they just use controller to show the game ahs full controlelr support

[rocky trellis]

with a controller, but the point still stands

[dapper finch]

Controller is also used because it's easier to do smooth panning

[celest blaze]

i think hes a troll

[hardy bear]

That’s the main reason, yeah

[worthy lagoon]

PC and console

[celest blaze]

@fleet cosmosif you dont like it you dont have to buy

yapping does nothing

[rocky trellis]

You know what, that yapping is great. Convinced me to pre order it like right now. I know, it's the current year and pre ordering bad idea (usually), but don't think I'd ever regret this purchase

[dapper finch]

Question:
is the game able to be modded on release day?
Answered by:
@ Mol1t
Answer:
Not on the release day

Challenge accepted

[hardy bear]

If you’re doing it with the intent to support them then go for it

I feel these guys deserve it

But I’m still cautious and will be holding off

[dapper finch]

I'll preorder ultimate if I find it, but that's because it will be like gold dust after release

[ripe hinge]

lol

[rocky trellis]

yay that purchase pushed me past 100k mark in steam points... now I have even more pointss to not spend 😂

[celest blaze]

Man i cant wait! as much as i like standalone mods id rather be playing canon content

[fleet cosmos]

they haven't shown off the enemy AI at all....

[granite mortar]

I want S2 backport to Xray 1.6

[rocky trellis]

they did show dog AI, but not sufficiently to say anything for certain

to me it seemed like they hunted like a pack and not like just randomly everyone attacking independently

[celest blaze]

they will, at this point i think you're a russian bot