⭐┃nospoilers_general

[pseudo rivet]

https://mee6.xyz/en/leaderboard/504587323577729024

Oh yeah, I tried the Tide today

And yeah, just like I thought, the Vintar BC and Tide do indeed follow different upgrade methods

My problem was that I upgraded my first Vintar BC like I would a Tide and hoped it would be a good sniper rifle

But it just doesn't work well as a sniper rifle

[gaunt burrow]

Whats your opinion on Tide?

[pseudo rivet]

Tide would be my go-to playstyle, tbh

Just one-shot taps

But it's a Vintar BC challange run, so yeah

Don't worry though, I used the Tide on a separate save

Same with the Storm

[gaunt burrow]

No worries, its all good

[pseudo rivet]

As soon as I get that thing, I wish I could play as a Military Stalker

[gaunt burrow]

If you don't want to restrict yourself too much then don't

[pseudo rivet]

Nah, I challenged myself to a Vintar BC run and it'll be the only gun I'll be using

PB-1s being the only exception

[gaunt burrow]

I see. Very respectable

[pseudo rivet]

After all, those are my least liked weapons in STALKER

Other than the Bulldog 6, of course

[gaunt burrow]

I started my IL challenge after I finished Jupiter Underground level

[pseudo rivet]

That thing just doesn't do any damage

[elfin echo]

Man i'm getting a lot of artifacts in SoC,i'm filthy rich in the early game already

[gaunt burrow]

In my next game I'll use only that gun and another weapon as my secondary

[gaunt burrow]

Or should I just use IL? @pseudo rivet

[pseudo rivet]

Think I want to go with the AC-96/2

[gaunt burrow]

Without secondary guns

[pseudo rivet]

I love that thing but almost never use it

[pseudo rivet]

What do you want to use?

Something you haven't used much before, for example?

Shotgun run could be cool

[gaunt burrow]

Honestly not even sure

[pseudo rivet]

I'd probably go with an AC-96/2 or AKM-74/2U run

That or a shotgun run

[delicate chasm]

AC-96/2 is very frustrating. Very unreliable gun.

You're not gonna have fun with it

[pseudo rivet]

I love that thing, but never use it that much tbh

[gaunt burrow]

Might go with 2U, I guess

[pseudo rivet]

I usually just go with the IL 86 in CoP

[gaunt burrow]

Always disliked that gun

[delicate chasm]

We checked some files a while ago on Wiki and it (obokan) has the lowest breaking point of all guns for some reason

[pseudo rivet]

It's pretty awesome tbh

Just very high fire rate for very close quarters

[delicate chasm]

if only they kept the model and sights like in SoC for later games

[pseudo rivet]

It do B wat it B

[pseudo rivet]

Even in CoP

[delicate chasm]

like, the sights were perfect in SoC and then they made them god knows what

[delicate chasm]

in CS and CoP specifically

[pseudo rivet]

Ah, don't worry, I can aim with CoP iron sights

[delicate chasm]

I tried running around with it in the least action-packed CoP and it kept still jamming on me with like relatively minor damage to the rifle

[gaunt burrow]

I genuinely like using Oboka in SoC and CS ngl

But in CoP I used it like once or twice

[delicate chasm]

so can I, but it's still not very pleasing aesthetically

[pseudo rivet]

To be fair, you should use the AC-96/2 as a sniper rifle, just like the IL 86

Yeah, I also never really use the AC-96/2 in CoP. Would love to try a run with that thing

[delicate chasm]

It's just annoying lol

[naive fog]

It's always a question, Obokan as a sniper or AKS-74U with max fire rate and recoil control

[pseudo rivet]

Sniper, obviously

[delicate chasm]

For contrast, an interesting gun in SoC is SGI 5k because even 100% broken it can dump 2 mags without jamming

[gaunt burrow]

Obokan as a sniper imho

[delicate chasm]

I tested it and was mad surprised when I dumped 60 rounds without malfunction on 0% condition

[pseudo rivet]

SVUA-2 tho

Fully upgraded for increased fire rate

[gaunt burrow]

Interesting

[naive fog]

Ive only started using the obokan recently cause for most of my playthroughs I didn't know there was semi

It's pretty nice

[delicate chasm]

it's not always, but if you were to choose from all broken guns, that would be the most reliable in my experience (not supported by actual numbers)

[pseudo rivet]

AC-96/2 got that based 2-burst mode

[naive fog]

Ye

[pseudo rivet]

SGI-5k do B my go-to for CS

[gaunt burrow]

Noted. Nice info Wolf

[delicate chasm]

idk how it was changed for CS but in SoC it's for sure a super nice weapon, rarely jams

[gaunt burrow]

I mostly use SGI in CoP (Strelok's variant)

[pseudo rivet]

SGI-5k, GP 37 and FT-200m are basically contrasts of each other with the same stats. SGI-5k has higher damage, less accuracy, GP 37 has less damage, higher accuracy and the FT-200m sits between the two

[indigo marsh]

I don't think I have ever used the druganovs

[frank egret]

I’m playing call of chornobyl and I am afraid

[pseudo rivet]

SVUA-2 is the bullpup

[naive fog]

The golden rule is to never use the inferior western guns

[frank egret]

Help…. I got down a hole because mole told me to and now raiders are tickling me

[pseudo rivet]

Unbased opinion

[gaunt burrow]

Which gun is your least favorite by the way? Mine is FTM

[indigo marsh]

Which is the better druganov, the svu or the svd

[naive fog]

Nagant revolver>LR-300 anyday

[gaunt burrow]

In my opinion SVD

[delicate chasm]

which game

[gaunt burrow]

At least in CoP

[pseudo rivet]

Different styles. SVDm-2 is basically One Shot, SVUmk-2 is more flexible and can take a bit more skill

[pseudo rivet]

Like, assault rifles or...?

[indigo marsh]

Cop and CS

[pseudo rivet]

Basically what I said

[gaunt burrow]

I meant your least favorite gub from just those 3

Gun**

[pseudo rivet]

FT-200m, I suppose

SGI-5k is my go to, upgraded into a sniper rifle

[naive fog]

Ye the inferior western engineering

[gaunt burrow]

🤝

[pseudo rivet]

Nuh-uh, Belgian engineering

[naive fog]

I prefer the sawn off mosin

[delicate chasm]

bro we here mainly talking vanilla... kk

[pseudo rivet]

We talking vanilla

[naive fog]

Ik I'm just messing

[delicate chasm]

you're talking to yourself in those moments

[pseudo rivet]

But, on the topic of weapons, no matter what...

OICW

[indigo marsh]

Are you even talking about a stalker game

[pseudo rivet]

A ton of mods have the Obrez

[naive fog]

They do

I haven't seen one yet

[pseudo rivet]

It's impractical and dumb

[indigo marsh]

I don't think I have played any mods with the mosin pistol

[naive fog]

Ye but funny to whip out your trouser pockets

[pseudo rivet]

Just like how Fallout has a ton of sawed-off hunting rifles

[naive fog]

Brb

[pseudo rivet]

Sawn-off Shotgun, ngl

Yeah, SVUA-2 is funky

[indigo marsh]

For me it's definitely the agm 88 HARM

[pseudo rivet]

Why you even need a rate of fire that high, I don't know

But it's awesome

[delicate chasm]

my least favourite weapon in SoC (if we're not talking pistols) is still Obokan. Just don't dig it. Barely any advantage over the AKM-74/2 but so much heavier. Same for other two games, lol

for aforementioned reasons of reliability

[pseudo rivet]

Speaking of weight

[gaunt burrow]

@pseudo rivet in my next playthrough I'll use IL and 2U, but can I make use Eliminator just for 2 missions? For Evacuation and Jupiter Underground

[pseudo rivet]

Man, the TRs 301 is LIGHT asf

[delicate chasm]

oh, and in SoC no ability to attach the GL

[delicate chasm]

also breaks fast but at least pretty abundant

[pseudo rivet]

Hmm, I'd personally prefer the IL 86 and AKM-74/2U no matter what, but I guess

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, but the cool thing about the TRs 301 is that it's good in basically everything, just that it breaks pretty fast

So basically a jack-of-all-trades

[gaunt burrow]

I'll try without Eliminator then

[delicate chasm]

yes, that's a big advantage

[pseudo rivet]

Also Chaser 13 > Eliminator tbh

[tender torrent]

I have a question, are there representations of religion in stalkers? can we see statuses or specific tables? a bit like in Metro Exodus in the Marais

[delicate chasm]

in like 90% of playthroughs in CS and CoP I just run an upgraded AKM-74/2

something trusty about it that makes it so effective for me, and also a jack of all trades really

[pseudo rivet]

SGI-5k you get after joining Freedom

Free SUSAT scope as well, so you already get the full package

[gaunt burrow]

Wdym?

[delicate chasm]

we talking Big Land religions or quasi-religious appearances in the trilogy?

[pseudo rivet]

I think Big Land religions

[indigo marsh]

Strelok's SGI

[nimble cipher]

wolfskopf has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pseudo rivet]

I never really use unique weapons tbh, but I'll see what the difference is between the standard and Strelok's

[gaunt burrow]

@nimble cipher piss off

[delicate chasm]

got excited and wrote the f word

[indigo marsh]

I think it's cool that Strelok used it

[tender torrent]

I don't know how I could interpret something as a religion in stalkers if there is for example, to protect the stalkers and have a good guardian angel for the zone

[pseudo rivet]

WHY DOES NO ONE EVER SIGN THE PETITION TO BAN HIM

[delicate chasm]

well there's the Monolith...

[gaunt burrow]

Wheres that petition?

[indigo marsh]

There is a petition to ban him!?

[gaunt burrow]

I will sign it up in a heartbeat

[indigo marsh]

Sign me up

[delicate chasm]

I forgot for a sec i'm not in C-Con lol

[pseudo rivet]

I've started so many just in here, I won't even bother finding them

[indigo marsh]

Frick you wolf

[solid dome]

I haven't seen myself as well

[tender torrent]

Is there anything in particular other than the Monolith? maybe a closer representation?

[gaunt burrow]

How are you bro?

[solid dome]

Rizzler says you can find yourself in The Zoner. I am looking for myself for a week.

[spring creek]

Sin/Dark Stalkers
cut content
like monolith but not brainwashed, just worshipping the zone
they're in Anomaly though that's obviously not canon

[solid dome]

I'm fine as hell

[tender torrent]

Ah

[pseudo rivet]

Ah, wait

[solid dome]

You feel?

[gaunt burrow]

Dark Stalkers are technically canon, or rather, canonized myth

[pseudo rivet]

Father Diodor

[gaunt burrow]

They got mentioned directly in Ashots dialogue

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, but only their appearance in a nightmare is canon

[delicate chasm]

There's Hermit who views the Zone as a living creature with a kind of sentience... One could argue that it's a quasi-religious view

[gaunt burrow]

Here

[spring creek]

interesting
i am not the most knowledgable so im sure there's more to it
surprised nobody already mentioned it

[solid dome]

Though, as you know, when Krezzin gets tough, tough gets Krezzin, goes one random saying @gaunt burrow

[gaunt burrow]

[solid dome]

I suppose the tough got Krezzin in a corner....

[delicate chasm]

in one or another way a lot of stalkers have superstitions that border on spiritual belief

[pseudo rivet]

Well, it's technically just a nightmare, so there's nothing really that interesting, but the mention is nice

[spring creek]

oo, forrester? the dude in red forest who tells you to get the Compass?

[gaunt burrow]

I recognize good old Krezzin

[delicate chasm]

Hermit.

[pseudo rivet]

Hermit.

[spring creek]

o

still um, does he count?

[tender torrent]

approximately like this ""

[pseudo rivet]

Not really. Forester's connection towards the Zone isn't a religious one. He simply understands that he has a unique relation with the Zone and that this has benefits and penalties

[delicate chasm]

@gaunt burrow any reference you remember in the trilogy of simply "God"? Not like any specific one, but just a reference to a belief in god

[pseudo rivet]

Father Diodor

[gaunt burrow]

Clear Skyers seem Religious because Cold in his dialogue mentions that nowadays they pray to both God and devil

[pseudo rivet]

Manner of speaking, I'd assume

[delicate chasm]

aside from cut bio though, is there something in the quest to kill him?

[pseudo rivet]

I always said business and religion can't go together, they can never cross, and should never ever meddle in the other's affairs. It's just this padre, Lord forgive me, Diodor... well... he just can't see this simple truth. He keeps raving about artifact hunting, says that trading in them drives people to sin not just in the Zone, but in the whole world, on and on along those lines. Get this, he preaches the destruction of artifacts altogether! See what he is up to? The worst bit is that he's actually got some converts! I've tried to approach this Diodor this way and other, but he just keeps at it. Here's the deal: you're going to send him upstairs where he can preach all he likes... you get the point, right? And I'll give you a cool artifact. So, we've got a deal?

[gaunt burrow]

I don't remember any so far

[tender torrent]

Would the zone be a connection to another dimension? when phenomena occur, open a temporal portal to pass on something completely outside of time

[pseudo rivet]

Lord

[delicate chasm]

It feels more of a humorous remark of being in something like a purgatory, not sure how literally we can take that

[pseudo rivet]

No, because the Big Land exists as well

[delicate chasm]

well wait a sec, we have C-Con in the Noosphere

[gaunt burrow]

Fair enough

[pseudo rivet]

The reason Stalkers can even BE in the Zone is because the Stalkers get support from the Big Land. Stalkers need supplies from the Big Land and the Big Land wants stuff from the Zone. It's mutually beneficial

[tender torrent]

there are different facts about it too, but on the other hand, the total understanding of the area remains an unsolved mystery about its control, the same in relation to the Bermuda Triangle, but it is something completely different.

[pseudo rivet]

I think you're thinking too hard about something that's not there to begin with

[tender torrent]

The Bermuda Triangle exists in reality

[pseudo rivet]

No way, for real?!?! 💀

[indigo marsh]

That's a myth tho

[elfin echo]

What's the best sidearm in SoC,if you guys even use one

[tender torrent]

[delicate chasm]

Martha

[gaunt burrow]

Big Ben

[tender torrent]

do you know the story of planes and boats that disappear without explanation near America?

[pseudo rivet]

No, I neeeever heard about that

[pseudo rivet]

UDP Compact, I guess

[elfin echo]

cool thank you both

[indigo marsh]

Kora 919

[elfin echo]

ok ok

[pseudo rivet]

Speaking of, interestingly enough, Military Stalkers use the UDP Compact

Interesting to see

[elfin echo]

I'll try them all out

[tender torrent]

there are other tirangles, or unexplained areas on the planet that are forbidden for airliners to pass through, unexplained phenomena, such as the compass which begins to move in all directions, and also an electromagnetic field that completely destabilizes where you are

[pseudo rivet]

Oh brother

[tender torrent]

This has nothing to do with Stalker

You can find lots of strange but real phenomena on the internet that no one has managed to explain, most likely extraterrestrial, but I don't bother too much with that.

[tender torrent]

The Noosphere interacts with something which modifies its electromagnetic field and transforms it

[tender torrent]

interesting story

[delicate chasm]

Bermuda triange thing is a myth, there's no more disappearances there than anywhere else in the world, and it's a very stormy area

[tender torrent]

We could say that yes, after the transformation of the zone also did something because it created some living thing, as if we needed to take care of them, but the zone devours everything it finds sometimes, and I sometimes say to myself what is needed to completely satisfy the area so that it can return to its original state

[delicate chasm]

I've had a similar conversation with some folks here not too long ago; the Zone's sentience is on the same level as the inability to prove or disprove the existence of God — it's something that is up to you to interpret

[tender torrent]

Are you ready to go to this area for real?

[delicate chasm]

Depends on how many pseudoscientific things I have to battle

[gaunt burrow]

preaches about destruction of artifacts but literally has a small fragment of the artifact Gravi built into his combat chaser's barrell

[tender torrent]

it's something that goes beyond all of us, but above all I have the feeling that it's something like a monster who needs to satisfy all its desires

[delicate chasm]

fight fire with fire

[tender torrent]

How are artifacts created? do they come from another world thanks to an opening during a red sky broadcast, the question remains unanswered

[gaunt burrow]

Artifacts are basically clusers of anomalous energy (according to Freedom technician Yar)

[tender torrent]

The stalkers come looking for an answer to which they will find what they are looking for, but in the end, it remains a unique experience

[gaunt burrow]

"Useful? Useful in our line of work means something that's gonna help you stay alive. That, or something that's gonna make your enemy dead. I'll tell you about artifacts. What's an artifact? It's a cluster of anomalous energy, kinda like a stock cube. There's also artifacts that can...err...what's that damn word...ah, right...ge-ne-ra-te anomalies! I think that's how Chekhov says it. Anyway, only problem is, once the artifact generates an anomaly it's as good as useless. The anomaly itself ain't exactly powerful nor does it last long, but it's good enough to delay someone or knock 'em off your trail altogether"

Some artifacts can also be generated in labs

[tender torrent]

good first information

[delicate chasm]

depends on the artefact, but most of them spawn as a result of the anomalies' activity

[tender torrent]

the artifact can generate an anomaly, I didn't know

I thought this was the zone (emission)

[delicate chasm]

this part was only really in the development concept and in the multiplayer, never reflected in singleplayer trilogy

"artefact activation"

[gaunt burrow]

"Bring the Fireball artifact" sidequest of Sakharov:

"We've managed to obtain the artifact in laboratory conditions! This is a breakthrough! Now all the world will hear about our success. And the Nobel Prize will be close at hand! This is the unique artifact - "Pellicle", it's main quality is to protect from the chemical burns. Do you want me to give it to you on behalf of science? However, I do have one request - in return I need the artifact "Fireball", do you know about such? Unique thermal qualities of its surface require thorough research."

[delicate chasm]

^ so far the only known artefact to be created in lab conditions

[gaunt burrow]

Guess I misspoke. But aye

[tender torrent]

I wonder if the artifact actually exists if it's not Top Secret

[gaunt burrow]

You mean on the big land?

[delicate chasm]

which one? 🤨

[gaunt burrow]

Suslov mentions that outside world is full of artifacts and other trinkets

Beard mentions that as well

[delicate chasm]

I mean even before that, a few anecdotes and side quests imply that they go across the border

in SoC

[tender torrent]

In secret places where only someone experiences things that only they know

[delicate chasm]

you've lost me

[tender torrent]

Area 51, where perhaps other places that we are not aware of in reality and are forbidden to know about it, a bit like the secret laboratories of the Soviet Union from the time when telephatic experiments were carried out to control the minds of Americans in the middle of the Cold War

[spring creek]

you're just speculating
you could learn what we know about how these things work by playing the games, reading the wiki, watching lore videos

the artifacts are usually made from materials present in and around anomalies, which are created by the C-consciousness and its influence on the noosphere that created the Zone

you sound like you've just taken psychadelics, need sleep or heard too many conspiracy theories

[gaunt burrow]

Artifacts could be used by governments actually. Since Sid in Clear Sky does mentions that entire governments are interested in artifacts

"A long, long time. I was one of the first in the Zone. Back then we didn't have radiation detectors or suits, so your life expectancy in this place was real short. That's why I've never been past the Garbage. That sort of thing isn't for me. I've got the brains for a different sort of business: I'm like engine grease, without me the engine falters and that means people start fighting. But when I'm around everyone's happy. Even though the Zone is full of wonders, the demand for these wonders is even bigger - be it from governments, special services, private agencies or fat cat collectors. I'm their link to this place: I facilitate trade between the Zone and the outside world. I know all the right people and I can solve just about any issue without leaving this room. That pretty much sums me up."

So it wouldn't be too far fetched to assume that artifacts are also being used for some secret purposes by the governments

[naive fog]

So irradiated kids in Uzbekistan can be lore accurate

[gaunt burrow]

Although thats not confirmed, but its very much possible

[tender torrent]

I played stalker more than 14 years ago, I learned some things about the zone, but it is true that I sometimes connected the history of the zone to certain things in reality, perhaps too far into this concept

[delicate chasm]

there's no reason not to believe it. large quantities of equipment can't come out of nowhere, and what's the only real currency to the outside that the Zone can have? (rhetorical)

[delicate chasm]

let's just take a step back and establish that it's all fictional, besides the actual area of the CEZ

[gaunt burrow]

Even military uses artifact. "Find the Night Star artifact" of Barkeep. Detailed description:

"Find the Night Star artifact to help the national military research effort."

[tender torrent]

The zone is just a video game imagining of a second explosion in 2006 at the Chernobyl power plant, the rest is all fiction

[delicate chasm]

there was no second explosion, so fiction begins with it

[delicate chasm]

good find. like I know these things are out there, but I don't have all the dialogues and quests on standby, you're my guy for that 😁

[tender torrent]

absolutely, all this is just fiction, afterward we can imagine a whole lot of things about the entire zone and all its phenomena in its history

[gaunt burrow]

@delicate chasm I kinda don't understand the currency. Like, theres even digital currency in CS that complicates things even more

Scar may encounter bandits who will demand a ransom for the passage - and one of the possible dialogues that will start the conversation is this:

Well, pull out your PDA, time to share the cash. And don't be thinking it's for nothing - you're paying us to maintain order at the Garbage, understand?

[delicate chasm]

oh that's a bottomless pit of a conversation... we tried to figure it out so many times at the Wiki server as well...

it's like there's a way to "e-transfer" stuff, but then most of the rewards you have to go back to the base for, which is like just a strange way of going about it

the PDA thing just sounds like a mess-up, cuz with the same success they could have said "turn your pockets inside out"

[tender torrent]

there is the story of a second narrowly avoided explosion at the power plant

[covert slate]

the funky iceberg of all this mentions the theorization of the Noosphere possibly being real

[tender torrent]

The wiki exists, it's true that I've never been there, it could teach me several things

[delicate chasm]

the English one is in dire condition, I'd say.

the most elaborate ones are in russian and polish

[tender torrent]

there is another version

[tender torrent]

All right

[gaunt burrow]

Real. English Wiki casually spreads misinformation lol (one example is it saying that Strelok is "One of the first stalkers" when trilogy never told us when Strelok actually entered the Zone)

[tender torrent]

@spring creek You don't believe in conspiracy theories? in the limit

[spring creek]

it would be much more respectful of you to credit the developers as artists rather than speculating about the truth of their story

you could go to the zone, tourists do it plenty. you could find videos of people going there. "S.T.A.L.K.E.R."s are in fact real, but all they do is protect stupid tourists from getting themselves irradiated and maintaining the natural state of the zone. There's no loot to be found there, all you'll find is radiation sickness.

[drifting shard]

https://youtu.be/3sGxfFqXopo?si=2C4YYaZx-T4XKpio

[spring creek]

I've seen people go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole before. There's nothing but confusion and isolation to be found there. I implore you to focus on the things we can prove are real, because the real world is far more interesting and chaotic than these stories propose

[tender torrent]

I expected to have an answer on the speculation

[spring creek]

my answer is that you're thinking about it too much instead of actually learning

[tender torrent]

there are interests that it is better not to know about, because in reality we are puppets on a certain level of society, I will not go into more detail on this, but everyone is free to believe what they want seems to him

[delicate chasm]

you can't go to the Zone anymore, it's a warzone

[spring creek]

oh yeah i forgot about that
but still, people did it. people are in there

[delicate chasm]

fewer now, but the perimeter and the station still need to be maintained

so essential staff for the most part, with some old hotheads who still venture in there, but now it's even more dangerous with the potential of new mines having been laid

[tender torrent]

The above is true, having done quantum physics, I can tell you yes, I am very expansionist, and very imaginative

I never really joined the war in the zone, but rather and in the scientific world in the zone, on a video game such as stalker

[elfin echo]

How would the zone in stalker look like due to the invasion

Especially since it was taken by the russian army before ukriane recaptured it

[delicate chasm]

new foxholes, new minefields...

iirc russians dug in in the red forest partly

[spring creek]

yes, you clearly are imaginative
not everything needs to be imagined though, there are many things we just know
like how stalker is a work of fiction

[elfin echo]

any activity from stalkers or would they all be driven out by the russian army?

[delicate chasm]

i think that it's a counterproductive view to a casual conversation. in a matter where you don't think a conversation is worth having people simply don't reply

[elfin echo]

can anomalies do any damage to tanks,IFVs etc?

[delicate chasm]

lol man idk, you're asking kind of a really random question. we're talking a fictional historical line vs reality. let's just see if any of it is present in S2

[tender torrent]

it's not for lack of imagination, but it's clear and I even recognize that I have a fault, I'm scattered in all directions.

[delicate chasm]

of course, don't you remember the helicopters and the buses in Limansk?

[elfin echo]

Hey i'm just wondering how the zone in stalker would be if ukraine was invaded in that universe

[spring creek]

i know we're puppets, but probably not in the way you're thinking
either way, there's no need to be afraid of learning about whatever you're interested in. People can be wrong, but you can always check their sources (or be distrustful if they don't provide any)

whatever higher power we might have would have no motivation to manipulate minute details of information like for a fictional game. They've got more important things to worry about

[elfin echo]

not even tanks can survive?

[naive fog]

Getting flung around by gravitational anomalies 💀

[elfin echo]

Tanks are far heavier than helos?

[delicate chasm]

more military everywhere

[spring creek]

cars in the zone were cut content for a reason 💀

[tender torrent]

I am passionate about research and in-depth understanding, even if this sometimes fails me, by asking myself too many questions, and by complicating my task, of course.

[delicate chasm]

we haven't seen any tanks necessarily damaged by anomalies, but there was one teleported into the Red Forest

[elfin echo]

yeah but tanks are significantly heavier than cars and helos so maybe they can survive?

[spring creek]

The Zone does not permit heavy machinery

[delicate chasm]

and if the bubbles in Limansk cut buses like butter, i suspect about the same would happen to an armoured vehicle regardless of the armour grade

[naive fog]

OWA cars make me wish they hadn't been removed 💀

[delicate chasm]

you're talking about only one type of anomaly... there's the rest of them too

[naive fog]

That one gravitational anomaly💀

[spring creek]

if anomalies don't work, the zone would just blast them with an emission

or send hordes of monolith and zombies at them

going to war in the zone is like angering a god

[delicate chasm]

if you really wanna experiment, there's a way to drive the BTR at CNPP, if you manage to save it long enough from Monolith's damage

[tender torrent]

it simply remains a fictional game exactly, that doesn't stop you from imagining beyond what you might believe as a "Scientist" in the video game, everything else is just fun and good living

[spring creek]

you can imagine your own stories all you want, just remember it's not real

[elfin echo]

Yeah..they do have RPGs from what i know

[spring creek]

the zone could just teleport a tank into the sky and drop it

[delicate chasm]

Anomalies are mostly static, it's not like some kind of pagan god deciding to play around

if they get into one, sure, like we see in SoC and in CoP (and even in CS with the tank in Red Forest), but otherwise there's a way around them...

[spring creek]

don't they change after emissions though?

[delicate chasm]

not in gameplay

[tender torrent]

This is just my pure imagination, each person is different, we are not all born equal indeed

[spring creek]

In Clear Sky they did in the story though

[delicate chasm]

same as in CoP, when Strelok explains the real reason for the helicopters crashing

the military just had outdated anomaly maps

[naive fog]

They do ye but not ingame just in lore

After every emission

[tender torrent]

a tank fallen into an anomaly field

[naive fog]

Anomalies change

[delicate chasm]

aaaactually: in CoP some anomalies change positions after emission

[spring creek]

yeah i thought so

[delicate chasm]

the burners (only) in the Bitumen relocate, not sure about other anomalous fields

[elfin echo]

never experienced that

[spring creek]

the zone could just lay out a minefield after an emission
and it has its own soldiers

[naive fog]

It's funny how diluted some of the spots to survive emissions are becoming like a wooden shack with no windows>solid concrete structure

[delicate chasm]

the zone doesn't have soldiers.. sigh

[tender torrent]

@spring creek You have a good sense of repartee, I like the way you see things and within reason it's a pleasure to chat openly with you

[spring creek]

are monolith and zombies not the zone's soldiers?

[elfin echo]

yeah apparently hiding in a shack isn't good enoug,yet hiding in that snork cave in which the area has open spots is good enough protection

[naive fog]

They kinda are

Solid structure with no concrete, still not the worst

[elfin echo]

Yeah but a shack with concrete isn't enough to protect you from an emission

[naive fog]

A solid concrete structure is what's needed

[elfin echo]

You know that merc camp where you can find fine tools?

[tender torrent]

We all experience different things, but that doesn't change our good heart and sometimes certain things that can be seen as casualness, but we just need to understand things as they are too

[naive fog]

Ye

[elfin echo]

that one is what i'm talking about

[naive fog]

Damn

[delicate chasm]

not really...

you speak of the Zone as if it's its own independent sentient being and not a manmade phenomenon

[naive fog]

C-Con soldiers

[spring creek]

i think of emissions as some sort of energy wave
like radio waves or wifi, both of which can be blocked by certain materials
perhaps emission waves are just really easily blocked by pretty much everything

[naive fog]

I just think of them like storms as demonstrated in CS

[tender torrent]

you need some concrete, or avoid the emission

[naive fog]

"Solid concrete structure" 👍🏻🧉

[spring creek]

that is what ive gathered from what ive learned, yeah
it reacts to situations and certain people differently depending on how they act within it
maybe not sentient but still a living entity with responses to stimuli
like a lot of stuff Lebedev, Forrester and the Hermit says

[elfin echo]

but that shack in the merc camp where you can find fine tools,it's made of concrete no?

[tender torrent]

exactly like ionizing waves

[spring creek]

maybe :p

[broken latch]

https://tenor.com/view/isaac-clarke-dead-space-hello-chat-hello-chat-gif-11512231345617716277

[naive fog]

Hey bro

[broken latch]

Ello

[broken latch]

What

[naive fog]

What

[elfin echo]

howdy ho

[broken latch]

What are the so called "C-Con soldiers"

[naive fog]

Monolith

[tender torrent]

I believe that the game only takes into account certain well-defined locations

[naive fog]

If you think about it they are

[spring creek]

im saying they're monolith and zombies

[elfin echo]

yeah... the game tells you what's a shelter what isn't

some of the shelters don't seem that efficient

[broken latch]

Why not call them just monolith then

[tender torrent]

Zombies are undead because of different PSY emission I think

[naive fog]

We need a faction of ultimate bandits who hang around the CNPP listening to hardbass robbing vets with makarovs

[spring creek]

i don't know how that isn't obvious
they live in the center of the zone, people get forcefully turned into them by anomolous effects of the zone, and all they do is defend all the important parts of the zone

[naive fog]

I do

[elfin echo]

Monolith are my 2nd favorite faction,only beaten by the military

[broken latch]

So basic

[tender torrent]

It depends on how the game takes into consideration the location or protection for the emission i think

[elfin echo]

basic?

[naive fog]

So what yours is renegades cause you wanna be special?

[delicate chasm]

Lebedev says it like that because he knows more about the people behind it than he wants to tell you. Forester and Hermit are both very superstitious guys... take what they say with a grain of salt

[naive fog]

Or some other shit

[broken latch]

Mol1t is the one who loves renegades

[tender torrent]

his zombies end up dying I think on their own

[spring creek]

frankly im a fan of believing the superstitious and the shamans in a world where supernatural things happen but they've learned to adapt to it

[naive fog]

All factions are good and there aren't any that are really basic apart from loners but they have good stuff too

Maybe monolith too

[spring creek]

liking Duty is basic

[delicate chasm]

i'm a materialistic person, seeing is believing. anything else to me is just unexplained yet science

[jaunty junco]

I am the same way

[tender torrent]

[naive fog]

It can be but liking Duty as mutant killers and not dumbasses who just take potshots at freedom isn't

[broken latch]

[delicate chasm]

and to that, of course, i include mathematical calculations, because they begin with very observable arithmetics

[naive fog]

Cause most duty members really like killing freedom

[spring creek]

isn't the behaviour of monolith and zombies enough evidence that they serve the zone?

[delicate chasm]

they serve people

[spring creek]

i am talking about a fictional universe here

[delicate chasm]

and zombies serve nobody, they're just obstacles

[naive fog]

They failed monolith

[tender torrent]

Ah here are a few that appeal to me

[broken latch]

Yes, their brains are literally fried

[naive fog]

And some other shit sometimes

[delicate chasm]

in the story of Strider from CoP we see clear evidence of artificially induced influence on the brains of the Monolithians

[tender torrent]

I did not say the contrary

[jaunty junco]

All this talk is gonna make me autistically research everything about psi shit and the monolith

[delicate chasm]

do you have any questions lol

[tender torrent]

they are all blind apparently Monolithians

[delicate chasm]

I rewrote recently a large section of the article on Monolith as a faction and have been going through in the past on the matter of the psi-emissions

[spring creek]

okay, but aren't those people the same people who created the zone?

[tender torrent]

What is your point of view

[pseudo rivet]

@gaunt burrow
Ngl, RP-74 is a good sniper rifle

[delicate chasm]

C-Con appears to be responsible for it

[delicate chasm]

on what?

[tender torrent]

The Monolith

[delicate chasm]

As a faction, you mean? Elaborate on the question, please, there's a lot to unpack here lol

[tender torrent]

Forgive me I forgot to clarify the question of Psi-emission

What is your article in summary on the question of psi emissions in relation to the Monolith?

It's starting to get late for me 😴🛏️

[delicate chasm]

Well, in simple terms the psi-emissions are the reason for getting people under fanatical control. The faction used to be relatively peaceful, albeit cult-like, but then there was a major shift in their behaviour and they became hostile to everyone

Zombies are a consequence of the psi-emissions frying their brain too much

[naive fog]

And occasionally other shit like controllers

[delicate chasm]

Controllers are a slightly different thing, part of the experiments on people

[naive fog]

I mean controllers turning people into zombies

[tender torrent]

The controllers are much more violent

[tender torrent]

an abomination

[naive fog]

Lil bro just wanted to , chill

[delicate chasm]

he just wanted to make sure you paid your bus fare

[exotic mural]

Degtyarev canonically could beat the hell out of the other protags bc he's military and presumably jacked

[tender torrent]

I have moving memories when I was 12 stopped

[delicate chasm]

too fat of a bait

[exotic mural]

literally not

[nova wedge]

True tbh wasn't strelok described as kind of skinny before

[naive fog]

Also Strelok and Scar are like old now

Strelok maybe not too much

[nova wedge]

Nursing home battle

[naive fog]

But Degtyarev is in his prime

[elfin echo]

And majestic af

Even more so than strelok

[nova wedge]

I think I made a tweet somewhere about strelok looking like an old dog

[lethal orchid]

Degtyarev solos

> > 1 on 1

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-strelok-marked-one-pda-stalker-soc-gif-11891098248306079922

naw my boy strel wins

[celest goblet]

Interesting detail I saw in a new video about the SGF demo today, they say Skif and Hermann are trying to cross into the zone illegally, so perhaps Hermann does not work for the government anymore by the time of S2. Also would raise questions about why the two of them have an advanced anomaly scanner

[exotic mural]

scar beats strelok lets be real here

(because he beat strelok)

[celest blaze]

True tbh

[hidden stratus]

Literally hahah.

[celest blaze]

[paper dust]

Fake news.

[cedar pumice]

I am going clinically insane in CoP. I have a quest, for the monolith survivors, but neither faction, freedom nor duty, will take them in. Neither trusts me enough, and there are no more quests I can do for either to bolster that. Am I just soft locked for that? Will I forever have a little gray arrow in Yaniv Station?

[lethal orchid]

I was in a similar situation but I forgot what I did

[small dust]

Sounds like you'll have to go in and tweak some values in a file.

[gaunt burrow]

here's what you should do: reload your previous save, tell Loki about Flint/Magpie (that will increase your relation with Freedom a lot), complete Yar's sidequest

and get "Diplomat" and "Mutant Hunter" achievements

Freedom will become friendly and you'll still be able to get "A man of balance" achievement and Yanov's neutral ending

[cedar pumice]

The issue is I did Magpie's stuff a while ago, and I just recently got Mutant Hunter, and I did Uncle Yar's stuff a decent bit ago, but not too long.

[restive shell]

hmm. is it normal for suslov to not sell the better clear sky armor after becoming frends with the faction?

i dont see it in his inventory..

[cedar pumice]

I sold the General of Duty's PDA to Loki, but I couldn't find the other guy from Duty that has one you can give over.

[gaunt burrow]

you should've given it to Owl to unlock Yanov's neutral ending and a man of balance achievement tbh

do you have older save when you didn't completed sidequests related to Maglie?

[cedar pumice]

Probably not, I play on Xbox and it's an older game, so you have to delete save files for save storage. I wouldn't mind starting a new game if it wasn't for the grind back up to where I currently am with fully upgraded weapons and exoskeleton.

If that's what it takes, I'll just suck it up and do it.

[gaunt burrow]

savescum

[restive shell]

OH GOD bloodsucker on the swamps before i left to cordron lol

[gaunt burrow]

just press F5 and then F9. keep doing it until armor will appear in his inventory

[gaunt burrow]

you can continue playing if you want to

however if Strider won't be recruited in any faction then his ending slide will simply be skipped

[restive shell]

does it reset his inventory?

[gaunt burrow]

yes

[restive shell]

oh nice!

[gaunt burrow]

@restive shell CS-1 Body Armor will appear in Suslov's inventory once you are fully friendly with Clear Sky btw

[restive shell]

thats the point. i am maxed out but its not there

i think i am ;p. on the relation screen their bar is full

[gaunt burrow]

ok then just keep savescumming. it should appear in his inventory sooner or later

[pseudo rivet]

Or "CS-3a" if you're playing SRP

[gaunt burrow]

why did SRP changed the names?

[pseudo rivet]

Because the names got switched around

CS-1 is obviously the weak suit, not the one with the gas mask

The one we can buy is the CS-3a, just like CoP

I believe there was some confirmation on the other suit being called the CS-3b, but the community just calls it "CS-2" and thinks it's worse than the CS-3a

[gaunt burrow]

CoP calling it CS-3a is just weird ngl. weakest Clear Sky suit in CS was CS-3A also

[pseudo rivet]

Because the names were switched around by mistake

Weirdly enough not fixed in any CS patch, though

[gaunt burrow]

I guess canonically strongest Clear Sky armor should be called CS-3A right? since CoP is the last game

[pseudo rivet]

No, because they also got that other one. The "CS-2"

Which realistically just should be the CS-3b

[restive shell]

is there a way to figure out where upgrade flashdrives are? im missing one in the swamps

[pseudo rivet]

Nope

Just gotta search hard or just cheat by looking it up

[restive shell]

can they spawn in stashes that i get from corpses? or only from those offered by npcs?

i see i can get locations from those two options. i wonder if they are the same

[pseudo rivet]

Usually those sold by NPCs

@gaunt burrow
Also RP-74 good sniper, ngl

[indigo marsh]

I mean they reveal what's in the stash when you ask them about it

[pseudo rivet]

True, but not always and not about the flash drives

[indigo marsh]

Most of them that are acquired by buying

[restive shell]

whats in it? No idea. lol they dont sometimes ;p

unless they always do when its the flashdrive? hmm

[indigo marsh]

Yeah

Maybe

And yeah

Actually it's not maybe it's for sure

[pseudo rivet]

The ones about flash drives aren't

[restive shell]

ive relaoded few times now and asked nimble and surprise he alwyas mentions the flashdrive when he offers the specific stash 😄

[indigo marsh]

To make it clear

[restive shell]

uhm... an npc in clear sky base just took out his gun and blocks my way out of the house with nimble..

what do i do lol

[indigo marsh]

The both are yes

Go back and let him move

[gaunt burrow]

real

[proven atlas]

Hey I have a question. Anyone know how much pre-ordering the ultimate physical edition is? I can't find it on the website

[gaunt burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5RCfgJflT4

[indigo marsh]

Go back as far as you can go so the NPC doesn't think you are trying to talk to it and then he might move

[pseudo rivet]

Step away and wait for him to move

[restive shell]

that's kinda cheating 😄 like checking the wiki haha.

[pseudo rivet]

Seems like common sense, tbh

[pseudo rivet]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643320/STALKER_2_Heart_of_Chornobyl/

Ah, physical

You'll have to check if there even is a place that even sells them

[restive shell]

oh yeah also one thing.. one npc gave me a specific quest to find CS scouts pda.. but in middle of the road to the corpse the quest cancelled itself. i see that the npc didnt die. is this a bug? can i restart that quest again? i found the pda but it sits now in my inventory..

[pseudo rivet]

It shouldn't cancel itself

Yeah, reload an older save I guess

[gaunt burrow]

seems like a bug yeah

[restive shell]

oh well, rip becuase it was very far back :S

[indigo marsh]

I don't think ||him dying is the|| problem

[proven atlas]

The website gave me a link to the physical edition

[pseudo rivet]

It doesn't say how much?

@gaunt burrow
Oh yeah, now I remember why the AKM-74/2U is cool

It literally burns through all your ammo

Would be devastating with AP rounds, tbh

[gaunt burrow]

agree

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, can't wait to try a playthrough with that thing and start crying

[dim topaz]

Throw bolts at him and call him names

[restive shell]

what does integrity do when upgrading armor?

[pseudo rivet]

What mod?

[restive shell]

CS ;p but i do use SRP if that changes anything

[pseudo rivet]

Or am I too used to CoP's "Durability"?

[restive shell]

i'm still on 2/3 of the original trilogy heh

[pseudo rivet]

It basically reduces the chance of attacks making you bleed, I believe

[restive shell]

oh that's awesome. wish it had a tooltip or something ;p

i might stick around swamp for abit longer to upgrade the suit fully

i wish artefacts would respawn. hunting them is kinda fun ;p

[gaunt burrow]

Artifacts do respawn in CS but eh, you gotta wait 2 ingame days (around 5 IRL hours) in 1 location

[restive shell]

i could use the sleeping bag

[gaunt burrow]

they won't respawn on one map if you will be at any other map, no matter how much time you will spend there

[restive shell]

oh damn that sucks :< i guess it makes sense considering how good money makers they are

[gaunt burrow]

don't worry tho. in CoP respawn of artifacts isn't a big problem

you can just go to sleep and after emission(s) they'll respawn

[restive shell]

emissions are back in cop?

[gaunt burrow]

yep

in CoP emissions happen daily

[timber violet]

68 days

[restive shell]

hmm. i got a random stone shower artifact form a dead clear sky guy and i cant sell it to the trade.. could it be a quest item that i gave to the guy that died?

[gaunt burrow]

if it can't be sold then it's a quest item, yeah

[restive shell]

funny how tou can loot quest items back ;p

[gaunt burrow]

aye. some NPCs can die randomly

once I gave trophy AKM to a Cordon loner, and after I while I saw his dead body and that trophy AKM in his inventory and took it back

[restive shell]

i guess ill have to drop it. bye 3k ;_;

[gaunt burrow]

theres another way to make easy money

[restive shell]

dont tell me only clear sky can upgrade the CS armor ;_;

[gaunt burrow]

I believe only Gray can upgrade it

And bandit technician Limpid is the only one who can fully upgrade SEVA

[restive shell]

i might join bandits.. but not in my firs tplaythough or two ;p

[gaunt burrow]

wouldn't recommend it honestly. faction war as a bandit is fighting on 3 fronts

loners, dutyers and freedomers all attack bandits

[restive shell]

sounds like alot of shooting ;p

but yeah one way is already tiresome sometimes

and i bet there will be better suits than seva.. or even then. i dont need maxed out seva in the mid game

[verbal osprey]

#💬┃en_offtop

[fast stratus]

Thanks

[verbal osprey]

No worries

[gaunt burrow]

🗿

@worthy lagoon

[restive shell]

that cheeky breeky

[gloomy knoll]

I was called?

[restive shell]

https://tenor.com/view/elonrwa-rwaelon-real-world-asset-crypto-memecoin-gif-662022144189435490

gif's not working ;_;

[timber violet]

@glossy blade phishing link 5 messages above...

[broken latch]

!tempmute 323812265155624964 30000d phising links

[nimble cipher]

The provided duration is too long (4,285 weeks 5 days). Consider using the permanent version of this command: mute

[finite dragon]

#💬┃en_offtop message

[broken latch]

!tempmute 323812265155624964 30d sus links

[nimble cipher]

🚫 Member not found

[timber violet]

@broken latch ty :) !

[worthy lagoon]

!ban 323812265155624964

[nimble cipher]

Dummy#0000 has been banned

Reason: Unspecified

[restive shell]

so what armor should i aim for next after the CS one? what to look out for/upgrade?

[naive fog]

Completing the loner faction war gets you a seva and some other stuff. Only the bandit technician can fully upgrade the seva suit tho

[gloomy knoll]

kill freedom

[naive fog]

If you have 15k in your pocket you can get up to 5 slots

[naive fog]

I always do loner then duty faction war

But now I have to kill loners to get the garbage so idk

I remembered it working before

Idk

[gloomy knoll]

Just wait till the bandits kill off the loners in garbage again

[naive fog]

Problem is they have exos now

Bandits ain't doing nothing to them

They've attacked once and didn't even kill anyone

[gaunt burrow]

[gloomy knoll]

huh what

I didnt say anything... Freedom are cool guys right!!!

[restive shell]

is seva not fully upgraded better than the cs fully maxed out?

[naive fog]

Idk maybe I've never used the CS suit much

If you complete the loner faction war you can compare stats and add the upgraded ones to it

[gaunt burrow]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/SEVA_suit https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/CS-1_body_armor here's the stats

generally upgrading SEVA would be a better choice (imho) as it can hold 5 artifacts

CS-1a body armor maximum can have 3 artifact slows

but it also has more bulletproof-ness than fully upgraded SEVA. Fully upgraded CS body armor can have 60 bulletproof-ness, fully upgraded SEVA just 45

[restive shell]

i also read that later enemies start using ap rounds so bulletproof becomes less effecive..

[paper dust]

@gaunt burrow when was Duty and Freedom created?

[gaunt burrow]

Duty most likely was created in 2006. Shulga in CoP has an interesting dialogue mentioning that him and his friend Lenya came to the Zone shortly after it was created and received help from Duty: "That's a boring story and there's no heroism involved. As soon as the Zone appeared, Lenya, a friend of mine, decided to come here and check it out. I was a field officer at the time and Lenya was in the intelligence service. Now, we weren't suckers or anything, but we ended up in a real mess. We crawled for hours, wounded and bleeding, until finally Duty picked us up. I made it, Lenya didn't. I had no friends in the Zone, so I decided to stick around here, with Duty. Plus, I've had a thing against the Zone ever since."

As for Freedom we don't really know

[gaunt burrow]

I think closest thing would be Chekhov in his dialogue saying this: "I didn't expect him to do this! I've known him for ages! We hunted for our first artifacts together, we made Freedom what it is today! I trusted him with all the operational planning, and he just went and sold us out..."

[restive shell]

special medkit quest..inside the military base with the stupid machine gun fire..

[silk sparrow]

Review of people who played at SGF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sGxfFqXopo&ab_channel=PureXbox

[restive shell]

man i am the kinda guy who after watching the first trailer know's this will be a week one purchase( after seing how good the game runs from reviewers) and i dont want to spoil anything about the game for myself..

[silk sparrow]

i pre-order only few days before release and only handful of games.

[chilly scarab]

I pre ordered ultimate edition in like March lmao

[timber violet]

does he say if he ever played the previous ones? thats my biggest problem with reviews of s2

wtf is he showing a lot of footage we never saw or its just me?

[gaunt burrow]

man... what's up with those scam links

so many of them nowadays

@broken latch @worthy lagoon @hazy helm

those mofos are lucky that I don't have a helper role tbh

otherwise I'd instantly delete those links lol

[celest blaze]

How do folks fall for such obvious scam lol

[gaunt burrow]

@kind breach @dire dagger @slow arch

[timber violet]

nice, deleted
thanks mods

[broken latch]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-cute-kitty-sleepy-kitten-sleepy-kitty-sleepytime-gif-15922126068799997734

[celest blaze]

Nitro is so cheap you don't need to click sus russian links

[kind breach]

don't ping the whole role next time, thx

[timber violet]

just let a phishing link stay up? lol

[celest blaze]

Fr just let dumb folk fall for it

[kind breach]

use nicknames

like mattpad did

[gaunt burrow]

.

necessity to mention so many mods everytime someone posts those scam links can get exhausting

[broken latch]

i'll suggest to mol1t to make it so only some roles can post links, like experienced and above

should fix the problem

[loud gate]

There are experienced accounts who get hacked and post spam messages like these, so maybe there's a better solution.

[broken latch]

tahnkfully thats a lot more rare

than bots

[loud gate]

It's better than nothing, I guess.

[gaunt burrow]

good idea

you guys can also give me ability to delete messages and those scam links will dissapear in seconds

[celest blaze]

i support this

[lethal orchid]

Maybe just master

For links, experienced is fine, but deleting messages should be master only

[celest blaze]

fr and trusted folk in the community it could cause alot of chaos

[mighty iris]

who actually falls for discord links

[celest blaze]

youd be suprised honestly it happens alot with porn links i see hacked accounts posting it all the time before mods clear it up

[gaunt burrow]

You'd be surprised how many actually fall for it

[mighty iris]

i mean i know, ive seen people fall for it

[celest blaze]

rule one is never click unknown links fr

[shrewd elm]

why is hatchets squad not at the substation

[granite mortar]

They died of hunger

Rip bozo

[gaunt burrow]

at which stage of the game you are rn?

[shrewd elm]

Late

[granite mortar]

[gaunt burrow]

LMFAO

[shrewd elm]

I did pripyat 1 and already did the food mission

[gaunt burrow]

ok that makes sense then

[spring apex]

check scientist bunker?

[gaunt burrow]

Hatchet and his guys simply dissapear when you're at late stage of the game

[shrewd elm]

Do they leave zaton afterwards

Oh

[gaunt burrow]

yes, they won't be seen in any location

[spring apex]

oh yeah if you havent do mission for scientist

[gaunt burrow]

don't worry

it's a scripted event, not really a bug

only way to make Hatchet and his gang remain in the game forever is by assigning them to guard scientists bunker

[ornate rampart]

uhm not get hacked by clicking fishy links?

[ornate rampart]

this would still cumber a lot of issues anyway

[steady zealot]

Playing through SoC vanilla, is it possible to not find out who strelok is?

Wondering if I could have missed it

[naive fog]

I have

[steady zealot]

Whoa, im heading straight to the hotel then

[gaunt burrow]

if you won't meet Guide and follow that questline then yes

[steady zealot]

That’s so cool

[gaunt burrow]

believe it or not many ppl actually missed it

[steady zealot]

Niiiice

My head is growing in size

[naive fog]

I thought guide was a mission that bugged and didn't disappear and he was supposed to lead me through the anomaly tunnel the first time 💀

[gaunt burrow]

and got false Wish Granter endings

[steady zealot]

It took me ages to get into the tunnel first time

[naive fog]

I just kill the military

Trusty PMm and db

Then you get a bunch of AKS-74Us which are awesome early game

[steady zealot]

Nah as in I didn’t know you could get into the tunnel

[naive fog]

Oh damn

[steady zealot]

Had loads of loot so every time I jumped I was out of breath

Then searched upstairs

Then had to go back and then learned I wasn’t crouching when I was crouching before

[gaunt burrow]

literally me

[naive fog]

You get good gear it's so worth it

[gaunt burrow]

average military killer

[naive fog]

And a special fort 12

[steady zealot]

Yeah I got moles gun, cleared them out trying to find the way in after I went away from the tunnel

🤪

[naive fog]

Big advice tho

Go into the CNPP with no bandages it's fun

👍🏻

Just don't get hit

[gaunt burrow]

ye, better restock on your supplies before you enter Pripyat Stadium

[naive fog]

Or do this

[steady zealot]

Will do, got my vintar, gp, and a spas

[naive fog]

It's not that bad tbh

[lilac lily]

*SPSA-14

[steady zealot]

Aye the upgraded one

[gaunt burrow]

Threaded one right?

[steady zealot]

Yeah get it from a dude

[gaunt burrow]

Poker's gun

[steady zealot]

Someone who used to be a dude

[gaunt burrow]

someone who used to be a rapist 💀

[steady zealot]

Goddamn!

Glad i dispatched him

[gaunt burrow]

I'm not even kidding. check this: https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Neutralize_the_bandit

[steady zealot]

Daaayum

[wild wharf]

Oh yeah, Poker was it?

[naive fog]

[wild wharf]

Yeah, I kinda may have riddled his body with shotshell with my spas 14

[gaunt burrow]

yep

[elfin echo]

I cleared out the military outpost next to the starting village

It was pretty easy,was disappointed with myself on how easy it was

Also jesus christ,this radio guy can't stop screaming

[hidden stratus]

Are you playing Clear Sky? The radio guy is screaming cuz you joined a faction and arent helping them.

[elfin echo]

SoC

Remember that military outpost close to the starting village

[restive shell]

You can shoot down the transmitter to shut him up :p

[elfin echo]

too late i left the base

but i will do that for the next time i come back

[restive shell]

I'm thinking now on how to assault that place In clear sky. They have machine gun there now. Shredded me when I entered cordon ;_;

[granite mortar]

[hidden stratus]

The worst part of Clear Sky. You either get in on your first try or on your 20th

[gaunt burrow]

Ye criticism on Cordon machinegunner is pretty valid

[indigo marsh]

There are 2 ways to do it

I think

You can snipe the guy from afar

Or just go left

[restive shell]

There's only one machine Gunner?

Can I approach that base from other side than the entrance to swamp?

[indigo marsh]

Yeah

[gaunt burrow]

Yep

[gaunt burrow]

Snipe Vist? From what? AK?

[indigo marsh]

Gp 37

[gaunt burrow]

Never tried it but is it possible?

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

[indigo marsh]

I think I remember doing it with a val

[restive shell]

I could use the sniper I found in the swamp that has to be repaired too. But then I'm not sure I'll find ammo for it

[pseudo rivet]

No, it's skill issue, pure and simple

[indigo marsh]

There is another way tho

[pseudo rivet]

[indigo marsh]

But the holy run is necessary

[gaunt burrow]

People who play for the very first time wouldn't know strategy how to bypass him and a lot of nuances

[indigo marsh]

But there is another way that doesn't require sniping

[elfin echo]

Are the military in SoC this easy to kill?

[pseudo rivet]

Skill issue

[gaunt burrow]

Lack of knowledge about the game I wouldn't call a skill issue tbh

[gaunt burrow]

Yep

[pseudo rivet]

The true skill issue is rage quitting or coming from the North

[gaunt burrow]

This I can agree with

[elfin echo]

Disappointed tbh,didn't know they had such a skill issue

[hidden stratus]

For the longest time I thought I had to go under the log on the left, didnt know I could just jump over it

[restive shell]

First time I just run through while being shot at. At stalker diff I had to use maybe 3 medkits. Wasn't that bad

[gaunt burrow]

Cover in that place is literally useless

Running as soon as you enter and following the fence is way safer

[celest goblet]

military are one of the early game enemies in SoC so they are not too challenging

[elfin echo]

Yeah,they're great for 5.45 considering it is uncommon

Yo i just found a tunder rifle from a dead duty guy

[paper dust]

Barin, I assume.

[finite dragon]

Guys I just found Yurik dead in the electro tunnel

He was good to me I gave him a medpack broo. He was a good stalker

[elfin echo]

So the stalker is much better than the merc suit in SoC?

[finite dragon]

May his soul rest in peace

[paper dust]

Stalker Suit is way better than Merc Suit.

[elfin echo]

good to know

[finite dragon]

The only way to get tunder 5.45 is either from Sid or Barin

So your assumption would be correct

If I remember correctly the merc suit gives you about 30% resistance to most things while the stalker suit gives 50%

[elfin echo]

What do i do with the fireproof briefcase i got from the military outpost

[elfin echo]

well i got it from someone's corpse(they were already dead)

[finite dragon]

You mean after Agroprom?

[paper dust]

You give it to Sidorovich.

[elfin echo]

the one close to the starting village

[finite dragon]

Yep that was Barin

[elfin echo]

he had a good sidearm too

[paper dust]

He can give you another special mission after you return to Cordon from X18.

[elfin echo]

It used 45 ACP so i sold off my 9x18 ammo and it's pistol for some 45 ACP

[finite dragon]

It's a really good gun, somewhat common ammo, good damage, good handling, grenade launcher only accuracy is the problem sort of

[paper dust]

I disagree. Tunder got a nice accuracy.

[finite dragon]

Maybe I just don't like the scope on it

[celest goblet]

Yeah the briefcase from the checkpoint is for after dark valley

[finite dragon]

I'm waiting in the tunnel near Cordon for electro anomalies to spawn so I can become David Goggins

[nimble cipher]

phantom.striker has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[elfin echo]

It's stats are much better than the AKM74

[finite dragon]

You won't believe how tired I am after hearing this FREAKING beeping

[paper dust]

AKM gets outdated pretty fast.

[elfin echo]

yeah,i only used it cuz it was much better than the sawn off or the smg

And the fact that the military dropped it in large quantities

[finite dragon]

Strelok's fast shooting AK is pretty good too

I like the fact it has increased durability

[paper dust]

All unique weapons do, as far as I'm aware.

[finite dragon]

Yeah they do

Aired out X18 with this gun

Shot the pseudogiant twice with the attachable grenade launcher I snagged upstairs

[deft stirrup]

knife fight

[paper dust]

X18 wa scary.

A real nightmare fuel.

[hazy helm]

yes, you find the merc suit before reaching the bar so

[finite dragon]

Man this game is way less scary if you hear music

I didn't like how something kept throwing barrels at me

Like okay I'll get out of your house I just want some papers

[elfin echo]

Yeah i actually found one in the starting village

[elfin echo]

This franchise isn't scary to me

[paper dust]

Idk about you guys, but I almost had a heart attack when I encountered my first bloodsucker and Controller.

[worn oar]

As should be

Double barrel too?

[paper dust]

Nope. I used that unique Viper that uses 9x18 ammo.

Forgot what it was called.

[worn oar]

I remember my first bloodsucker encounter too !! It was hilarious.. I literally screamed and ran the other way

A decade and half ago

Maybe more lol

I always really wanted to get that same feeling again ...

[celest blaze]

ill never forget that first encounter

[paper dust]

You got a good memory if you still remember when was your first encounter with those mutants.

[celest blaze]

oh no i recently beat the trilogy for the first time couple weeks ago

[worn oar]

The more reasons I'm into the new map structure in stalker 2. The Alife and the hostility are somethings I'm really hyped for

I want to feel like I'm a rookie again

[paper dust]

I'm almost done with CS.

[elfin echo]

Are there any people who can repair your stuff in SoC like in CoP

[celest blaze]

im excited for the open world aspect of S2

[worn oar]

You mean CS

[paper dust]

Or am I? I feel like Limans is one of the last areas.

[celest blaze]

pretty close

[worn oar]

Yeah you are like 80% story

[celest blaze]

repair with your squad lead before you leave that area

[grand night]

this has probably been asked, but does the ultimate physcial edition have a digital or disc game?

[elfin echo]

No SoC,i'm playing that rn

[paper dust]

I learnt my lesson in Shadow of Chernobyl. I had low ammo, my armor was wrecked and I entered Pripyat stadium, thinking I would be able to return to previous places.

Luckily, I had hard saves.

[celest blaze]

same haha

[paper dust]

So I never had to start a new game. That would suck big time.

Now I'm more careful.

[paper dust]

SoC doesn't have any technicians.

[worn oar]

You can not repair in SoC

[paper dust]

Dialogue of that Freedom guy, Screw, makes me think that it was intended for SoC to have a technician.

I'm not certain of that, though.

[elfin echo]

damn

[covert slate]

probably was intended at one point, but was scrapped due to weird development

[elfin echo]

What about upgrades?Can i upgrade my guns

[covert slate]

however you can "repair" armor

and no, you're stuck with what you have, the only "upgrades" are with unique items you find

like the fast shooting AK and all that

you can place attatchments like scopes and grenade launchers and stuff though

[worn oar]

Nope

[covert slate]

but yeah as for the "repairing" armor thing, you can have a bug where if you have a full belt of a specific type of artifact it does weird things to it's stats if you stand in certain anomalies that instead of damage your suit, repair it

[paper dust]

I have to keep this in mind.

[covert slate]

yeah, there's plenty of guides out there to show you which ones you need and where to go

[paper dust]

Is it a feature, though?

Or it can be considered bug or exploit?

[covert slate]

people debate whether it is or not, but the way i see it it's a bug with the stats

[elfin echo]

damn it

I can't even put attachments on my weapons

[paper dust]

Things can be attached only on certain weapons, I believe.

[covert slate]

yeah i had mentioned that certain weapons can have scopes and grenade launchers

[paper dust]

I did notice that desciptions aren't always correct. Description of M203 mentions it being for SGI 5k, the TRs 301, the GP 37 and the IL 86.

Tried to attach it to GP37, and couldn't.

[loud gate]

I'm pretty sure it needs to be upgraded until you can actually attach it

[elfin echo]

Also i noticed my character went from rookie to experienced

[indigo marsh]

You need to upgrade to attach it
The assault route not the sniper one

[elfin echo]

Do i complete certain quests to achieve a higher rank

[paper dust]

I meant in Shadow of Chernobyl

There you can't upgrade weapons, sadly.

[indigo marsh]

You can get higher ranks by killing and doing side quests

And a couple other ways too that I don't remember

[elfin echo]

I see

[finite dragon]

Is there an achievement for beating CoP without dying?

[wraith snow]

No

This isnt Sifu

[paper dust]

Lmao

[finite dragon]

i only asked because there is one for beating SoC without dying and i already did that one, just didn’t know if there was one for CoP

[wraith snow]

There isnt

[finite dragon]

Then why is there one for SoC only

[wraith snow]

Name me the Achievement

[wraith snow]

No there isnt one normally

[paper dust]

[elfin echo]

How tough are military stalkers compared to regular army and spetsnaz guys

[finite dragon]

https://youtu.be/t2DLiK2giko?si=-RBlz_lo-Lg4Nr6k

[elfin echo]

I just faced 2 of them in the arena and boy were they bullet sponges

[wraith snow]

My guy

That isnt a Achievement..

[finite dragon]

then what is it

[wraith snow]

A challenge

[paper dust]

Bruh

[finite dragon]

he said in the video its an achievement i thought

[wraith snow]

He spreads misinformation

[finite dragon]

Oh

My bad i didn’t know

[wraith snow]

Its fine

[paper dust]

He never even played the game before. Check the comments.

Who calls "anomalies" "radiation"?

Apparently, that guy does.

[wraith snow]

[finite dragon]

Would it still be a good challenge to try to beat CoP without dying though?

[wraith snow]

[finite dragon]

idea^ not challenge

[paper dust]

https://youtu.be/18wiJczRWb4?si=ClBPqn0gaScRwMq7

This guy really did complete Shadow of Chernbyl without dying.

[finite dragon]

i will watch it

im also playing it on console so its gonna make it harder probably doing a 0 death run

[sand fiber]

console

[stuck pewter]

what

are we gatekeeping console fans now
since when

[restive shell]

its hard enough aiming at enemies in pc stalker. cant imagine it on colsole ;_;

[finite dragon]

Console actually ain’t that bad, i just had to turn the aim assist off completely because it sucks really bad whoever made it

[sand fiber]

nope but it's funny anyway ^_^

[stuck pewter]

there is one in anomaly

beat the main questline in ironman mode you get a special achievement

oh wait you're console nvm

[worn oar]

You can

[stuck pewter]

you can attach scopes and silencers

[elfin echo]

Can i put attachmentsn on a TRs-301?

[gaunt burrow]

You can put silencer and SUSAT on TRs

[elfin echo]

YEAHHHHH BABY

[worn oar]

Yes you can

[elfin echo]

I just need to find me a TRs-301

[worn oar]

You can also find a sniper variant if you look well enough

[gaunt burrow]

Tbh its not really necessary. Army Warehouses has a unique Sniper TRs

[worn oar]

Spoiler***

[gaunt burrow]

More specifically mercenary outpost at the Army Warehouses

[worn oar]

Matt destroyed it

[sand fiber]

are you playing SoC? there's one at the warehouses, northwest corner in the mercenary outpost, you can also give it to Voronin and recieve a Vintar

[gaunt burrow]

Oopsie

[sand fiber]

though, that would be uneccessary, since there's a free Vintar at Freedom's base

[worn oar]

Let the guy find it on his own damn it !! At least highlight the level, not the actual location lmao

[elfin echo]

Yeah but i love the TRs

[sand fiber]

i love the fact that you can run from Cordon to Warehouses immediately after starting new game and get all the endgame loot

SoC truly is the best stalker game

[gaunt burrow]

One of the stalker games of all time

Truly makes you feel like a shadow of chernobyl

[finite dragon]

Gunplay ruined it for me

[sand fiber]

literally, Vintar, Groza (5.45 optional), GP37, SGI-5K and Bulldog 6 all in the first 15 minutes

[gaunt burrow]

You better ask such questions at #🔩┃trilogy_modifications tbh

[sand fiber]

wdym

[sand fiber]

mental illness!

[indigo marsh]

Wait. How? The path to rostok is blocked.

[gaunt burrow]

You can still get through. Theres video about that

[sand fiber]

you either knife or push the door with your body

and it'll open

[gaunt burrow]

https://youtu.be/qWalvABAr8c?si=eSYSfILNXvlXgq-Q @indigo marsh

[sand fiber]

this truly is the immersive simulator of stalker

[lilac lily]

Funny thing how CoP gets criticised for having high-end gear lying in the open, yet the same is also present in SoC and nobody bats an eye.

[celest goblet]

The difference being you have to use a bug/physics oddity in SoC, while in CoP it's just there in an intended way

[finite dragon]

CoP is just better

[sand fiber]

people hate on CoP because they're insecure about liking CS

[lilac lily]

There's a bit more hassle involved, but in the end a free gun is a free gun

[sand fiber]

so truee bestie

[celest goblet]

That said CoP is short enough that I don't see it as that big of an issue

[still ridge]

I have the most hours in cop

[finite dragon]

How many?

[still ridge]

Like 200

more like 300 if you include modded versions

[finite dragon]

i have 130 on xbox and i have only had the game like 3 months

[gaunt burrow]

Only OP items SoC has in the first area would be Merc Suit and Tunder 5.45 (and even that gun only has only 10% of chance of actually appearing in Sids inventory. Not to mention its price being 20K RU/SR)

[sand fiber]

there are free high-level guns at the garbage and dark valley too, it's just that getting to warehouses is easier
that door to Bar wasn't in the game until literally last builds, too

[gaunt burrow]

While you can literally find Vintar, SVD and other OP guns in the first minutes of CoP

And only thing that can prevent you from doing so is self control

[still ridge]

I like to get the SVD and kitted AK within 5 minutes

[solid cosmos]

does the Svarog detector detect all artifacts or do I need to carry a veles with me as well

For Vanilla COP

[sand fiber]

svarog is a modified veles, no?

[gaunt burrow]

Svarog is strongest detector

You might as well just sell Veles since it won't be needed

[solid cosmos]

It is, but someone said that it doesn't detect all of them, so I was wanting to confirm that

[gaunt burrow]

Dunno where he got that from

[solid cosmos]

Idk, sometimes people are just wrong about stuff. Like the master difficulty myth

But yeah, I'm just trying to artifact hunt and I can't seem to find more than one or two in each anomaly, sometimes non and I've rested for days through several emissions

[sand fiber]

CoP just has a bad anomaly/artifact system

[gaunt burrow]

Maximum amount of artifacts you can find in 1 anomaly is 3

In all my playthroughs I've never seen more than 3 artifacts in an anomaly

[solid cosmos]

yeah I'm finding none is the thing. I felt like early game I was finding a bunch