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[cobalt phoenix]

that is all

[solid cosmos]

Congrats. enjoy the games!

Nah that's an issue in a lot of gaming communities. It just feels like it happens more often here lol

[celest blaze]

Fallout servers go wild

[solid cosmos]

God forbid you not wanting to slob on Obsidian's knob for making the best thing since breathable air; fallout New Vegas.

[nova wedge]

Swear they do? They absolutely do

[celest blaze]

I don't mind new vegas fans( I am one ) but man the die hards are the WORST

[nova wedge]

You could print out this chat and give it to a medical professional and they could diagnose all you nutters

[celest blaze]

Also people who are a little to into the legion are sus

[solid cosmos]

Thank god I'm the sane one; says everyone in here.

[celest blaze]

The voices say I'm sane idk if I trust them

[ivory aurora]

there was a doubt they delayed again the game did not come out on July 5

[nova wedge]

I have chill new Vegas fan friends but they're sort of Steven universe type ones I'll take boone yaoi over pointless fighting

[wet lark]

It does happen more often here lmao

[marsh dome]

Do u think GSC can gold S2 ?

[dapper finch]

Sure. Nice avatar, loved that old art

[solid cosmos]

Announcing a game has gone gold is really an older practice, not really something announced these days

[dapper finch]

If you ship disks, you need to go gold

[celest blaze]

I really hope someone can give us call of the zone 2 since doctorX is no longer with us anymore

[solid cosmos]

Yes, but you don't have to announce it.

[marsh dome]

GSC doesn't really do what everyone else does

[dapper finch]

What would you want from it?

[wet lark]

Not only is this community massive but the community for this game are particularly tistic, like ive never seen a community this maliciously autistic before lol

[celest blaze]

Oh the same but just on the new engine tbh

[dapper finch]

benevolently flails

[celest blaze]

From what I played of it was fun

[solid cosmos]

Frankly with how Stalker 2 seems to be aimed for open world, I don't think we'll need a call of the zone, since the whole map is explorable now without loading screens.

[celest blaze]

I just like the dynamic changing quests etc

[wet lark]

Best choice they coulda made

[dapper finch]

Modular content is definitely what I'd like to focus my S2 modding on

[wet lark]

One more step away from bethesda games

[dapper finch]

Could you not lol

[paper dust]

this goes to all large communities, though.

[solid cosmos]

I agree. I'm excited to see how well it works.

[paper dust]

even very small ones have a lot of bad apples.

[dapper finch]

And it used to be way worse

2015ish

[solid cosmos]

Something cool I noticed is on the drawn map after watching an Anomalous dugout video is that there are 3 colors on the map, I think they are faction colors, at least for Duty [red] and Freedom [green]. Cause the bar is now under control of Freedom and there's a green dot associated with it on that hand drawn map.

Course that's just one thing and doesn't mean it is that way, but it's what I think at least.

[celest blaze]

As much as I love hardcore milsim stuff I prefer stalker mods closer to original games If I want hardcore ill just load up arma 3

[solid cosmos]

Oh hey, one of the updates for CoP fixed Joker's pda clipping through the map

[wet lark]

For this community its x10

Im not tryna be negative of the community but its just an observation, every community ive been in has generally had a good community with a few bad apples, this one in particular is more like 70-80% good

[wet lark]

Thats what happened to me, i didnt know it clipped through the whole map tho i thought I just shot it off somewhere

[dapper finch]

Seems more genuine at the cost of more wildcards

[wet lark]

Yeah thats true

[verbal osprey]

Have you tried launching the games in offline mode

[wet lark]

People are really invested in the stalker games which is great, but there are some people who are invested at the cost of how they treat other people

Some people dont know how to be heavily invested into a game while also remaining respectful to those who may not share the same vision

[verbal osprey]

This is something I’ve noticed some people love to gatekeep this series and if you ain’t playing how they like it your playing it wrong

[paper dust]

Yeah, very true. Same logic as thinking that someone is evil just because he's more different than you.

[solid cosmos]

https://i.imgur.com/dPJgJMT.png

[paper dust]

Lmfao

[brazen patio]

Anyone else here consider STALKER their comfort game?
Everytime I enter the zone it's like coming back home

[dapper finch]

One of

But yeah, the zone feels very homely

[paper dust]

From what level can you get Experienced rank?

[dapper finch]

You're a merc, you're blue anyway 😛

[paper dust]

True. I don't want to be a rookie merc, though.

being experienced merc seems like a better deal.

[dapper finch]

Depends if you prefer more contracts or less bounty on your head

Well, guess I'm stuck blue

[loud gate]

I still remember this

[granite mortar]

So true bestie

[paper dust]

"Our time has passed, John."

[granite mortar]

X-19*

[paper dust]

Isn't it both?

[granite mortar]

X-10 was supposed to be under X-19

But since it got merged and its never mentioned to be 2 labs its now X-19

You can still find locked door at the spot where the old lab was supposed to be

[paper dust]

I mean in "Level" section its depicted as X-10.

But PDA entry refers to it as X-19.

[granite mortar]

Wdym level section?

[paper dust]

I think someone in screenshots and videos channel had a picture of that. Need to find it.

[loud gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNtUSxUK_NQ

[wet lark]

Youre the problem buster

[lethal orchid]

Thank you

[fluid abyss]

Stalker 2 needs to be the dark souls of the FPS genre

[paper dust]

Found it

[fluid abyss]

If it turns out to be generic CoD slop I’m gonna do something… dubious

[dapper finch]

Good lord no. It needs to be the stalker of the fps genre

[fluid abyss]

TRUE

but who knows if they’re trying to “redefine stalker for modern audiences”

[wet lark]

If normies/cod players arent crying about the games difficulty then gsc needs to work on it more

[celest goblet]

The thing about the original games to me is that they are pretty challenging because when you're new you probably don't have the proper expectations and don't know how to play it very well, but once you understand the game mechanics it becomes not too challenging

[dapper finch]

To me what defines stalker difficulty is that they're chill in the midgame, reasonably hard at the end and hardest at the start.

[celest goblet]

They aren't hard for its own sake

[fluid abyss]

True, but I also think that’s partially due to the jank/small studio

[covert slate]

god yes, this dudes video was insufferable to see

actual rookie moment

[fluid abyss]

I hope endgame is a little more fleshed out this time around

I want to be sniped by some bandit sniper

[wet lark]

Honestly I think it should have been harder

[loud gate]

CGR's video is pretty good and just shows how uninformed Luke's video was

[lethal orchid]

They totally learned their lesson from clear sky

[granite mortar]

Ive never had problems with any bust smh
What did head satues do to you?

[lethal orchid]

There isn't another limansk construction site for a reason

[wet lark]

Look at me funny

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[dapper finch]

That's not really cod-like, it's just weird level design

[celest goblet]

Yeah I mean all I am saying is that with acquired skills and knowledge the games become pretty manageable, which I think is a sign that they are good, even if there is a fair bit of jank

[wet lark]

Did you see the cat on my pfp just now lol

[granite mortar]

Yes

I love cats

[dapper finch]

Not to mention that most things that seem insurmountable can be overcome with good planning.

[wet lark]

Same, cat master race

[granite mortar]

Real

[paper dust]

Finished SoC on true ending. Refused to join the C-Consciousness.

Man, what a masterpiece of a game.

[granite mortar]

I mean
I still think Rats are the best
But theres not as many funny/cute pictures of them as cats have

[wet lark]

The amount of times I missed my shots in clear sky was enough to drive me into the looney bin I swear

[wet lark]

Yeah rats are pretty cool

Ferrets too, man I love ferrets

[obtuse nacelle]

Me playing clear sky again ngl I think it has best animations

[granite mortar]

Yeah ferrets are great

[granite mortar]

Its the best game
Overall

Clear SkyIs god of trilogia

[paper dust]

I'm starting Clear Sky tomorrow. Any tips?

[obtuse nacelle]

Ye but call of pripyat deserves 2 place story was short tho

[dapper finch]

Enjoy the swamps while you're there

[granite mortar]

Get your hands on hunting rifle and put accuracy upgrades on it
Its godsent for earlygame

[paper dust]

CS happens before SoC, right?

[granite mortar]

Yes

[obtuse nacelle]

Bro lmao wanna play together xd like on call cause me playing too

Like another stalker to have a chat with xd

[wet lark]

Maintain your guns well and when modding put everything into accuracy and flatness

You are going to miss every single shot if youre not using mods

[obtuse nacelle]

I am using abr

[paper dust]

Any accurate gun?

[obtuse nacelle]

Shotgun 🗿

[granite mortar]

Hinting rifle

[paper dust]

Vintar in SoC is pretty good. Is it also that accurate in CS?

[granite mortar]

Literally peak accuracy
Only beaten by gauss

[wet lark]

Eh

[dapper finch]

TOS34 is amazing

[wet lark]

Its flatness sucks if you dont upgrade it

[obtuse nacelle]

Agreed

[granite mortar]

Hunting Rifle*
Toz-34*

[paper dust]

You can stream it if you want. I'd rather not stream it myself because I suck XD

My very first time playing the trilogy.

[granite mortar]

We all suck at the game
Except for Rahmi

[dapper finch]

Hunting shotgun*

[obtuse nacelle]

Dem

[obtuse nacelle]

I can't live without stalker so I play ig every day

[granite mortar]

Hunting Rifle*

[celest goblet]

Clear Sky is much more fun if you take your time with it. So that is my advice.

[obtuse nacelle]

I am playing since I was 6 year old xd rn 16 year old

[dapper finch]

Where's the gun nuts to tell this cat what's what

[obtuse nacelle]

So lots of experience

[granite mortar]

I had most fun when I didnt prepare for missions

[celest goblet]

Even if the story seems like you need to hurry up, you do not in reality

So enjoy artifact hunting and side missions and looking for stashes etc

[dapper finch]

Yeah. In the larger maps stick around a while to soak up the place

[granite mortar]

Well I know shotguns are smoothbore so technically cant be rifles but its called Hunting Rifle in game

[paper dust]

Ok so in CS and I assume in CoP you'll be able to fix and upgrade gear. Sounds great.

[wet lark]

Whats the tos34 with the metal stock and removable magazines?

[paper dust]

By the way, is faction war buggy? I heard it is.

[dapper finch]

Yep. Especially Bandit.

[dapper finch]

Suddenly realizing I've only played Clear Sky Complete. Guess I need to play vanilla.

[celest goblet]

Bandit faction war is pretty buggy yes. The rest are not nearly as bad

[paper dust]

Will I be forced to join any faction?

[dapper finch]

Nope, but you'll miss out on reward stuff if you don't

Loners count as a faction

[paper dust]

Never understood that, tbh.

[dapper finch]

Think of them as the anti-bandit free stalkers

[paper dust]

Why are loners even a faction? They don't belong to any faction.

Its kinda stupid.

[dapper finch]

I hope they're a bit more nuanced in s2

[paper dust]

I see no reason for that decision other than gameplay purposes.

[solid cosmos]

Unaffiliated members. They aren't part of a faction, but loners is a distinction of free stalkers

[finite dragon]

my thought exactly

makes no sense

[dapper finch]

It's just a loose coalition of anti-bandits

[paper dust]

Wdym? Loners and stalkers aren't the same?

Why were characters referring to Marker One/Strelok as stalker, then? He was depicted to be a Loner

[dapper finch]

Free stalker isn't a faction, but when they organise they're called Loners.

[paper dust]

Marked*

[solid cosmos]

No. Stalkers is everyone in the zone. That monolith that is taking pot shots at you is a stalker. The loner who just died next to you is a stalker.

[dapper finch]

Well except military being distinct from military stalkers

[solid cosmos]

True

[paper dust]

Would it make sense to consider everyone in the Zone a stalker?

[solid cosmos]

yes

[granite mortar]

Who does that?

[paper dust]

How are bandits, military, ecologists etc stalkers?

Bandits don't search for artifacts and do other stalker activities.

[dapper finch]

Someone who discovered Stalker in 2010

[granite mortar]

Damn
Dass crazy

[solid cosmos]

stalker means: Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers and Robbers.

[granite mortar]

They arent
Bandits are well.. bandits
Ecologists are researchers and military has special branch called army stalkers but thats regular soldiers better trained and equipped for the Zone

[dapper finch]

I'ma join the Trespasser faction

[solid cosmos]

Bandits and Ecologist are absolutely stalkers. Military are called Military Stalkers as a distinction

[paper dust]

Representative of C-Consciousness said that Stalker tattoo is an acronym, though.

[finite dragon]

^facts

[wet lark]

Ecologists dont really interact with the zone the way stalkers do tho

[solid cosmos]

Anyone in the zone is a stalker lmao what is going on. It's too early in the morning for this.

[dapper finch]

Even barkeep?

[wet lark]

Theyre more like scientists who study the zone, stalkers are robbers killers trespassers etc

[dapper finch]

eyyy what's up man, did you bring the documents from the institute?

[solid cosmos]

The E in stalker is Explorer. What do you think Ecologist do 😭

[paper dust]

Loners are generally engaged in stalking - exploring the Zone, collecting artifacts, etc. They are the definition of the term 'stalker'. Bandits, on the other hand, shouldn't be seen as stalkers at all; they aren't involved in stalking, they prey on stalkers.

[solid cosmos]

I can't with some of you people

[dapper finch]

the military tanoy at cordon implies that stalking is the illegal act of hunting artefacts

[paper dust]

So considering bandits stalkers makes no sense.

[wet lark]

Robbers

[dapper finch]

IRL stalkers are those who illegally trespass in the exclusion zone

[wet lark]

I dont see them exploring the way stalkers do

I guess itd make sense though

I dont personally see ecologists as stalkers, they seem more like an outside entity rather than someone going in to escape the law or make some money

[paper dust]

Military stalkers technically are but thats that.

[solid cosmos]

Kruglov didn't die out in the field for you to bismerch Ecologist like this 😭

[dapper finch]

And the stalker in the film is like a zone guide

[wet lark]

Kruglov can go kiss my ass, that mfer gave me too much grief dying to a slightly rough gust of wind when I was trying to save him

[finite dragon]

true, have you ever read anything in the SoC pda?

[paper dust]

My point is that not everyone is a stalker/should be considered a stalker.

[dapper finch]

Stalker 2 will make you rethink that

So many references in the trailers

[finite dragon]

correct, the roadside picnic book is well portrayed by the mod „Goldensphere”

[dapper finch]

But set up since C-con

[dim topaz]

Wake up anon it's headcanon time

[finite dragon]

that is correct, but bandits ARE stalkera

[dapper finch]

Did you notice that the factions roughly correspond to characters from stalker and roadside picnic?

[paper dust]

I did. Nowhere was it said that S.T.A.L.K.E.R stands for: Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers and Robbers.

I consider loners for example as true stalkers

[wet lark]

What do you think of ecologists? Are they stalkers?

[paper dust]

Since they explore the Zone, look for artifacts and such.

Ecologists are basically scientists.

So calling them stalkers wouldn't make any sense.

They are neither interested in exploring the Zone in a way loners want nor is that in their priority.

They study the Zone, yes, but they still aren't engaged in other stalker activities

Mutant hunting, artifact hunting etc

[dapper finch]

The ecologists seem weird because they're not a true faction in the trilogy

[dim topaz]

The word "Stalker" is interchangeable with "people of the zone" ffs
The tattoo is just a marking specific to agents sent by the c-con

[solid cosmos]

Ecologist famously do not want artefacts or to study them at all

They hate them in fact.

[paper dust]

Ecologists? Hunting mutants? When or where?

Sakharov literally hires you to bring him mutant parts.

[dim topaz]

Ecologists are just a faction of stalkers?

[dapper finch]

Poor dude can barely turn around.

[paper dust]

Ecologists also don't explore undergrounds the same way Mole and others do.

[solid cosmos]

Okay guys who are we bringing to Prypiat

[dapper finch]

I love the way Sakharov careens into the desk while trying to turn to talk to you

[paper dust]

Even if they could hunting for mutants still won't be in their priority.

They are there to study the Zone. Not to kill its residents.

[dapper finch]

It feels like they weren't a true faction in the trilogy but we're getting that properly now with SIRCAA

[solid cosmos]

I cannot believe we got past the Chaos a few hours ago only for this dude to make new chaos. what is happening

[paper dust]

What even is the point you're making?

[pseudo rivet]

To my knowledge, no

[paper dust]

My point is that ecologists aren't engaged in a lot of stalker activitiesm

And no matter why, because of that they shouldn't be considered stalkers.

Whats your point, though?

[pseudo rivet]

Except Eco-Stalkers

Stalkers employed by Ecologists

[dapper finch]

The scientist guy near the start of CoP seems like a stalker

[paper dust]

Ok thats 1. Do they hunt for artifacts like loners do? To my knowledge Sakharov hired MC to bring him artifacts.

Artifact hunting is biggest stalker activity.

[dapper finch]

Yes they do. Start of CoP, turn left and you'll find one hunting for an artefact

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, but they're just Stalkers, not employed by Ecologists

[paper dust]

Stalkers hired by ecologists doesn't automatically makes those stalkers ecologists? Them being hired by ecologists would mean that they are just affiliated with ecologists.

[dapper finch]

That's a straight up scientist isn't it?

[pseudo rivet]

That's why they're called "Eco-Stalkers"

[paper dust]

In which game?

[pseudo rivet]

Awl and Danila aren't Eco-Stalkers

[dapper finch]

Not them, the one in the orange scientist outfit

[paper dust]

Not yet. But is term eco stalker actually mentioned there?

[pseudo rivet]

Awl and Petruha*

[pseudo rivet]

Then you haven't played CoP

[dapper finch]

350hrs on steam uh

[paper dust]

Ok stalkers turned ecologists. Just 1 rare case of stalkers actually becoming ecologists.

[pseudo rivet]

There are no NPCs wearing the SSP-99 in CoP

[paper dust]

Is that a common occurence? I doubt it.

[dapper finch]

Did I invent that? shit

[dim topaz]

How about strelok

[paper dust]

Ghosts faction was "Loner". Not "Ecologist"

Him being hired by scientists never made him a scientist.

He was just working for them. Any other cases of stalkers becoming scientists except 1 you described?

[hazy helm]

no? Hes a loner, not an eco-stalker

[hazy helm]

Strelok is a loner

[paper dust]

This dude thinks being hired by scientists automatically makes you a scientist, I guess.

Strelok also helped Sakharov.

I guess we should consider him scientist now?

[hazy helm]

Ecologists revers only to the group of scientists that work inside the zone, stalkers cant be scientists neither are ecologs a faction

[nova wedge]

He becomes a researcher outside of the zone after CoP but never an ecologists

[granite mortar]

Petruha my beloved

[nova wedge]

Well an "advisor"

[dapper finch]

How about Kruglov?

[dim topaz]

He literally joins a team of scientists who study the zone?

[pseudo rivet]

Although Topol did say that they're "More scientists than stalkers at this point", I believe

[dapper finch]

Read up on the ARG, that's not all they do 😛

[paper dust]

Kruglov is a biologist. According to his own words.

[granite mortar]

He joins their field team as guard rather than scientist

[dapper finch]

Doesn't mean he's not a stalker? biologist would be his scientific specialization

[granite mortar]

I mean
He plants scanners but generally isnt scientist

[wet lark]

🍿

[hazy helm]

what happens in the ending slides and what happens in the game is different, mind you, Strelok joins the Institute yes, but just because a stalker is contracted to guard scientists this doesnt make said stalker one of them

[wet lark]

Hes still an ecologist tho

[hazy helm]

it just makes them a stalker, with a job

[paper dust]

He isn't involved in mutant hunting, artifact hunting and other stalker activities like loners are.

[dapper finch]

Strelok is a guard? whut?

[granite mortar]

Petruha

Wait no
I meant the Iskra guys

Im eepy

[hazy helm]

ISKRA is not the same as the Ecogs or Scientists

[granite mortar]

They are Eco Stalkers tho

[dapper finch]

He was technically mutant hunting, mutant plants

[hazy helm]

even the wiki has it right
https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Iskra_Scientific_Research_and_Investigation_Team

[dim topaz]

His role doesnt matter if he JOINS the scientists, then he is not a loner now is he?

[hazy helm]

they arent, you are either a stalker or an ecolog, if you are an ecolog you are not a stalker, ecolog are not a stalker faction

[hazy helm]

Strelok is a loner in the main series

[dim topaz]

Not after the ending of CoP

[granite mortar]

Well they arent really neither

[hazy helm]

he becomes a adviser after them but when discussing lore we talk while the games are still a thing

[dapper finch]

SIRCAA =/= Ecologists. Different command structure

[wet lark]

Yeah no dip, but kruglov is an ecologist whether or not hes actually much of a scientist is irrelevant, hes an ecologist

[dim topaz]

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know the ending of a series doesnt count as part of the series lmao

[hazy helm]

Kruglov is a scientist tho

[wet lark]

[dim topaz]

I never said he becomes an ecologist

I said he stops being a loner

[hazy helm]

[dapper finch]

Aww he made friends

[dim topaz]

You guys should try that too

[paper dust]

Aren't ecologists and scientists the same thing? Even Voronin in SoC in one of his sidequests said scientists and not ecologists.

Lately there's been an increase in the activity of groups of Mercs, there's been a few attacks on the scientists, researchers working in the zone. We can't leave that unpunished. We need to carry out a small punitive operation. The goal: the security post of the Mercs by the military warehouses, behind the abandoned village.

[dim topaz]

Ecology is a scientific field

[paper dust]

I haven't seen dialogues referring to then as ecologists.

Them* they are just called scientists.

[tender torrent]

Where does having different ideologies lead to in the case of killing each other to maintain an zone

[hazy helm]

blaize coming over here with the dictionary, shame the thessourus doesnt work here

[dapper finch]

Ecologist is both the name of the scientist faction in the zone and a branch of science relating to ecosystems.

[hazy helm]

Ecologists merely refers to the conjugation of scientists working in the zone under gov payroll

[solid cosmos]

Usually around Prypiat

[dim topaz]

What are we arguing about here btw

[tender torrent]

Ecoligists don't really have enemies?

[dapper finch]

All of world history

[paper dust]

I checked the Wiki and in Clear Sky Sakharov is scientist instead of ecologist. Whats up with that?

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-blinking-birdblink-gif-12302413

[hazy helm]

Ecologists are not a stalker faction

[paper dust]

Did they retconned the name "Ecologist"?

[tender torrent]

Really unfortunately

[dapper finch]

That's the thing with the noosphere, the zone is just an amplification/dark twist of normality

[tender torrent]

they are neutral overall?

[dapper finch]

I think they're enemies with freedom in soc not that they'd ever run into each other

[hazy helm]

the naming scheme for the series on Ecogs and Scientists is shaky, they p much got retconned to that at this point

[tender torrent]

That said, Strelok acts for a broad cause

[hazy helm]

they dont have enemies, they arent a faction, they arent stalkers, they are gov scientists, they dont have relations, they hand out contracts

[paper dust]

CoP also seems to have scientists instead of ecologists.

I guess the term ecologist will be retconned completely.

[dapper finch]

Wolfhound are enemies

[dim topaz]

Except they do get attacked by mercenaries in SoC?

[paper dust]

Even in SoC's dialogues everyone just called them scientists.

[tender torrent]

Bandits too

[hazy helm]

and mercs guard them in CoP
becuase it is not a unilateral relation, bc there is nothing of the sort, bc they, are not a faction

[tender torrent]

I believe

[dim topaz]

But that's like saying Loners don't have enemies

[hazy helm]

Loners arent a faction either, it is the designation of the lack of a faction

[paper dust]

Bandits and ecologists never met but I believe they'll be enemies, correct?

[hazy helm]

in CS there is a loner clan but there is no loner faction

[hazy helm]

no

[dapper finch]

Mercs aren't exactly a faction with set alliances and enemies like how Loners aren't.

[paper dust]

At least thats what I'm assuming.

[hazy helm]

bandits would extort money from the Ecogs just the same

[hazy helm]

Mercs are designated as a faction in SoC with an HQ inside the zone

[dapper finch]

Right, that's why I said Wolfhound.

[paper dust]

Dunno about that 1. Description of merc suit in SoC refers to them as actual faction.

[tender torrent]

I don't know if the bandits differentiate the other factions the ecologists

[hazy helm]

their SoC description refers to them as a faction

[dapper finch]

They're a faction for the purpose of mutual ceasefire only

[paper dust]

That as well. PDA entry about them quite literally says they have a base.

[tender torrent]

Hmm

[finite dragon]

U GUYS STILL GOING AT IT

[dapper finch]

Think of it like the continental from john wick, it's a safe haven more than a base

[finite dragon]

i made dinner and ate it in the meanwhile

[hazy helm]

would you rather the server was dead?

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[finite dragon]

wdym?

[hazy helm]

what is that

[solid cosmos]

new argument

[finite dragon]

i was just surprised how people are willing to argue

for that long

[hazy helm]

?

[raven grove]

Life hack, clean out a jar of mayo and fill it with tapioca pudding, then eat with a spoon from the jar in public

[dim topaz]

You hacked life congrats

[solid cosmos]

man how have I never gotten the svarog until now, dang this thing is awesome

[tender torrent]

Are the bandits just there, to loot and take your belongings? Does the history of this faction have a defined role

[finite dragon]

?

[paper dust]

Bandits just prey on stalkers.

And, fight eachother, according to PDA entry about them.

But in actual game they don't do that.

[pseudo rivet]

That while also hiding from the law, for example. Their goal in CS and CoP is to "Maintain order whenever there is a gold rush" and the funny thing is, in a way, they actually do

[tender torrent]

they somehow maintain the balance

[solid cosmos]

to get man of balance I should just sell all pda's to owl yeah? Like the duty founder one and stuff

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, but you won't be able to recruit one Stalker when going to Pripyat

[solid cosmos]

Strider? I already got him to join one of the factions

[wet lark]

Yeah the zone is the wild wiest

[pseudo rivet]

I heard it's possible to get it while still being able to recruit Strider, but I don't know in what order you need to sell everything

[solid cosmos]

as of now duty and freedom ar egreen to me, strider is part of freedom and I've just been selling pda's like Morgan's to Owl

cause if I give it to any of the others it switches the opposite side to yellow

oh

I sold it to owl and the achievement popped for it lol

[pseudo rivet]

Awesome

What quest did you turn in for Freedom?

[tender torrent]

Backups have always saved us from an unexpected moment lol

[solid cosmos]

I honestly don't remember. I just picked up playing again after a few months, but I already had the achievement for Diplomat

Today I got strider to join freedom and have been doing this other stuff

[tender torrent]

Someone who is green and turns red, shooting at you, you have to start all over again, or keep going, if that's possible

[pseudo rivet]

Heck

[solid cosmos]

Again, really enjoy playing vanilla on these games again. It's refreshing.

[pseudo rivet]

Hella

[still ridge]

Vanilla enjoyers

[solid cosmos]

Nothing stops me from doing it on pc, but the desire to mod sneaks in. When you don't really have many options or any options for mods on console, it's easier to play and enjoy vanilla.

I just want controller support for the pc versions

[ancient haven]

no playstation discount lol

[fluid abyss]

He gets brain scorched in the zone
But I’ve got watermelone to protect my dome

[ancient haven]

im feeling a horrible headache, am i finally a part of the monolith?

[loud gate]

[raven grove]

All you have to do is wake up, wake up Mr. Freeman and.. smell the.. ashes

[loud gate]

Sale moment.

[loud gate]

PlayStation had a sale weeks before.

[granite coral]

🍆

[raven grove]

[elfin echo]

uh oh

this is not good,looks like you're going to need some aid

[granite coral]

71 days guys

[raven grove]

[ancient haven]

furry invasion time

[raven grove]

Huwwy! We need to mawke it to da wishgwantewh uwu

[ancient haven]

rawrr

[granite coral]

@glossy blade Release the game now!

Cannot wait another 71 days 🥴

[solid cosmos]

What should I give to Vano and Sokolov to ensure they survive? Weapon wise.

[still ridge]

I just savescum to keep them alive

[solid cosmos]

Lmao fair enough

[glossy blade]

[granite coral]

Oh hello mr cat!

[solid cosmos]

Are you looking forward to playing it Mol1t?

[granite coral]

How are you today?

[finite dragon]

a rifle would be nice

[fervent junco]

Am I the only one who’s waiting to pre order the physical edition?😭

[solid cosmos]

I would want physical, I just don't have room for the items

[fervent junco]

Damn

[drifting shard]

god dude i get baited every time with these damn LoZ announcements

i think everytime its gonna be more stalker 2 crap

[granite mortar]

Where is that video of Strelok shooting Furries when you need it

[raven grove]

Fun fact, 9 of 10 people who hate furries actually become one

[paper dust]

Bro pulled those numbers out of his ass

[raven grove]

One day you'll go through the transfurmation too

[paper dust]

I'd rather die.

[raven grove]

You're the other one of ten

[paper dust]

"Is this kid getting jerky with me?" - Richie Aprile from The Sopranos

[primal current]

what on earth

[paper dust]

Stop it, get some help. @raven grove

[raven grove]

I found help, I'm better now

[paper dust]

❌

[primal current]

agreed

[broken latch]

When does NDA end

[solid cosmos]

After release

[granite coral]

71 days later 😛

[solid cosmos]

I just got jumpscared by a crow flying through a wall.

[leaden stratus]

those anime neko-boys are japanese furries?

[raven grove]

Not quite, there are full on Japanese furries. I'd consider anime hybrids to be furry-curious

[leaden stratus]

I heard japanese rap, it was worse than french

[raven grove]

That's saying something

[ancient haven]

strelok became a furry, its over for you

[nova wedge]

No it's true I've seen it happen

[sand fiber]

you'll become a furry too

[thin shuttle]

What is furry

[raven grove]

Bro is having his first day on the internet don't ruin it yet

[chilly scarab]

furries are what sqautted trucks are to the car scene

if that makes sense

[sand fiber]

bro is 50 years old 😭

[leaden stratus]

damn no gifs here

[chilly scarab]

lmfao

[paper dust]

50 years olds can't use internet or what? Why such remark?

[raven grove]

Woosh

[chilly scarab]

[nimble cipher]

avonweston has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[leaden stratus]

furries are ppl in animal costumes

[thin shuttle]

Ohh okay.. thats weird

[paper dust]

Anyways you're really old as f*ck @chilly scarab

[chilly scarab]

how am i old?

[sand fiber]

because they're interested in cars

[paper dust]

You are old because we said so.

[chilly scarab]

its a valid comparison lmao how tf that make me old

[paper dust]

Good point.

[loud gate]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-amidala-star-wars-gif-19929019

[chilly scarab]

thats the dumbest shit i ever heard bro

[indigo marsh]

😔

[nova wedge]

Only some of them do that, "furry" is a pretty broad description for people who are interested in anthropomorphic animals

[paper dust]

I agree with that comparison, actually.

[chilly scarab]

ty

[covert slate]

i'm back from the store, what all did i miss

[nova wedge]

NGL the ones who buy suits make good good money

[paper dust]

But since Nozar and I decided that you're 50 years old then you are

[raven grove]

Only the ones with money suit. Sometimes you can get a partial for 500, but full suits can run in the tens of thousands

[ashen niche]

no they are a legitimate faction

[chilly scarab]

you should be shot.

[raven grove]

I agree, moving on

[paper dust]

Agree.

[chilly scarab]

why do you know that lmao

[covert slate]

it's common knowledge

[raven grove]

Why do you think I know that?

[sand fiber]

no they aren't, only Valerian's group was

[indigo marsh]

They are not part of a group/faction. That's why they are called loners/free stalkers

[sand fiber]

loner is just anyone who is on their own in the zone

[leaden stratus]

ppl in bdsm dressed as dogs are more scary than those average furries

[chilly scarab]

you definitely should be shot

[covert slate]

^ sane person

truly

[raven grove]

I agree. Anyways, time to fly

[ashen niche]

well then why they all have the same banner (patch)

[paper dust]

Makarov and his squad pull up: Remember, no furries

[sand fiber]

are you a 12 year old

[ashen niche]

association with disassociation is what loners are

[paper dust]

Gameplay reasons, I guess?

[thin shuttle]

Furrys faction in stalker 2 leak

[chilly scarab]

no russian mission should have happened at a furry convention

[paper dust]

Loners being a faction makes 0 sense

[chilly scarab]

and it should have been real

[thin shuttle]

Theyre like boy scouts why not

[paper dust]

Because loners are by default people who aren't assosiated with any faction

[sand fiber]

freedom already exists

[paper dust]

No, 11.

Actually, try 10

[primal current]

look inside stalker chat
furry chat

[thin shuttle]

Oh man poor faction to many “rumors”

[leaden stratus]

loners are acceptable because they are at least not... freedom

[nova wedge]

What? You expected a normal discussion about the game?

[sand fiber]

it alternates between fallout general and furry stuff every other day

[paper dust]

Nozar you seem like a secret furry supporter

[sand fiber]

because i'm an open furry supporter

[paper dust]

❌

[sand fiber]

you really are a 12yo lmfao

[leaden stratus]

being a furry is like playing WoW but as Alliance

[paper dust]

Just 12? Please. Go lower.

At least to 10.

[raven grove]

We love and appreciate you

[primal current]

dang

[solid cosmos]

It's so funny cause Furries make up a huge subsect of the stalker fandom. y'all just don't know it

[paper dust]

Who "we"? Just you?

[grim cove]

Furries happen to often make up huge amounts of any fandom

[paper dust]

Yes. This community is full of degenerates of all kind.

[covert slate]

y'all yapp too much

[thin shuttle]

Enjoy those spoken cats now in stalker 2

[chilly scarab]

id rather continue to not know, that is abysmal

[leaden stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8qTsO4iRDY

when they talk about furries all i can think of is this

[paper dust]

Can confirm.

[covert slate]

you especially

[paper dust]

Can confirm that as well.

[sand fiber]

yeah, as with most of communities its members are either transgirls or nazis, no inbetween

[solid cosmos]

I know tons of transgirls who are super into stalker so I mean, true

[thin shuttle]

Specially stalker discords

[paper dust]

Which 1 are you, though? You don't strike me as a nazi so I guess transgirl.

[indigo marsh]

Omg 😳 Is that a reference to Caesar's legion

[sand fiber]

MEN IN SKIRTS!!!

[nova wedge]

They're pretty good artists the lot of them honestly

[covert slate]

hell one of them frequently does art streams in call in here

[leaden stratus]

i never thought about it but is Sonic a furry?

[thin shuttle]

Imagine people in 20 years

[sand fiber]

are you like unfamiliar with 30 years of internet content

[solid cosmos]

There is TONS of anthro stalker fanart too. It's pretty cool honestly.

[primal current]

everytime you join a large public server you have to call it like no country for old men

[paper dust]

No country for old men, what a great movie.

Gotta rewatch it tbh.

[thin shuttle]

Agreed love the reference on gta 5

[covert slate]

i love how none of what happened in that movie would have if the dude didn't go back to the deal spot

[solid cosmos]

Lmao right?

[thin shuttle]

A butterfly effect

[paper dust]

Saddest thing in the movie was Anton's haircut.

[thin shuttle]

Hell no man that’s some charisma rigth there

[hazy helm]

no
Loners are not a faction

[paper dust]

I mean yeah he's very scary but genuinely wtf is that haircut lol

[covert slate]

the fact that there was no music in that entire movie was also refreshing

[paper dust]

Same haircut Edna has in Incredibles

Time for some black humor: What do Melania Trump and Kobe Bryant have in common? both made fortune by playing with orange balls.

[solid cosmos]

I was gonna say "oh shit did she die in a helicopter crash too?"

[nova wedge]

She took down both her and trump god bless

[solid cosmos]

lmao

[stuck pewter]

free stalkers and loners are seperate entities technically

free stalkers are their own faction in clear sky, but outside of that game the term is also only really used for someone who has no affiliations

[humble heron]

Hey, how about add achivments to Stalker in steam ??

[stuck pewter]

they fuсkin better

[paper dust]

what? how come Wolf didn't warn you about F word but warned me?

[stuck pewter]

because im cool

[paper dust]

@nimble cipher cherrypicking mofo

[solid cosmos]

Well the modding guidelines stated that the pc version is the only one that can have shader changes and they don't use mod.io so I think they will add them in lol

[stuck pewter]

and i have the russian keyboard

[paper dust]

burn in hell Wolf.

[solid cosmos]

Hey don't be mean to wolf

[hazy helm]

a engine technicality does not work in lore
Loners, are not a faction, and Clear Sky features a loner clan, it doesnt mean every person designated as loner is from that faction it means a group of loners made a clan

[stuck pewter]

gsc couldnt really fathom the idea of swearing in their forum about a 17+ shooter game

[nova wedge]

Why is your keyboard in a hurry?

[stuck pewter]

to get away from me

[stuck pewter]

i dont mean engine technicality

im using technically as a figure of speech

[hazy helm]

it is what it is, in CS, the loner clan and the loners that were sprinkled needed to have diff clans on the backend

as the clan had behaviours that were specific

[worn oar]

Somehow, people can't seem to understand what loner means. A loner is a stalker who is not affiliated to any faction and prefers to work alone mostly. Same goes to free stalkers.

[paper dust]

I doubt that all loners in Clear Sky have just 1 leader tbh.

[nova wedge]

I hate how my phone loves to change my layout to qwertz every time I look away but never changes it back when I start typing in English

[stuck pewter]

they dont

the agroprom loners are their own seperate clan

[solid cosmos]

is there really no achievement for getting all 4 guys through the tunnel alive haha

[covert slate]

there's believed to be a new loner leader in Stalker 2

[paper dust]

exactly. that's why "Loner faction" makes no sense.

[indigo marsh]

There is a agroprom clan lead by Orest and the cordon clan lead by father Valerian. But they are gone by the time of SoC

[paper dust]

they literally do not belong to any faction and are alone.

[hazy helm]

wtf are you talking about

[paper dust]

Aye. Seems like my assumption was right.

[covert slate]

this fella

[hazy helm]

yhea what about him

[loud gate]

Gaffer is the leader of the establishment.

[loud gate]

I don't think it's in general.

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[paper dust]

Zombified faction makes no sense too

they are literal zombies. how come game considers them as an actual faction?

[covert slate]

okay now that one is just for gameplay purposes

[hazy helm]

because they have diff behaviorus for the game to function

it is tehcnicalities within the engine

[stuck pewter]

they are a faction for gameplay reasons only i think

[worn oar]

Loners in CS are only together by leadership. They are not really into grouping together much. They may have a small team to operate with in certain occasions, but they are still loners. CS featured the factions war concept and loners are part of it mainly because of the military. Father Valerian gathered them under his leadership to fight, otherwise, they wouldn't have been part of the war.

[paper dust]

I'd rather be a bluename than be a Wisconsinite

[paper dust]

Ok so they joined forces because they were desperate?

Understandable, but still I don't see how temporarily partnership makes them a faction.

[worn oar]

Leader? Nope.
An important figure to free stalkers? Yes

[stuck pewter]

i wish there was more to the faction warfare in CS

[worn oar]

They are not.

[stuck pewter]

are there any good clear sky mods

[worn oar]

Loners are rather referring to as free stalkers

[paper dust]

Exactly, but many people think they are.

[worn oar]

Well, I blame anomaly

[stuck pewter]

why

[covert slate]

there's a whole Anomalous video going into detail about all this

[stuck pewter]

they arent really a faction in anomaly either

they're treated in anomaly a similar way they are in soc iirc

[solid cosmos]

No they mean Anomalous dugout, not anomaly

[worn oar]

They are regarded as such and if only ppl played the original games, well enough, they could've knew that. However, engaging in a mod such as anomaly head on would only confuse.

[stuck pewter]

rahmi is talking about anomaly the vidja game

[covert slate]

Modrot is real

[paper dust]

Loners seem more like a community tbh.

[still ridge]

free stalkers are not a faction

[solid cosmos]

smh Tjgsasquatch was talking about anomalous's videos

[paper dust]

Representing one of the possible "occupations" in the Zone.

[still ridge]

[stuck pewter]

loners embody stalker as a setting best

the deepest connections and loyalties for loners are often extremely shallow

one might not betray another for a quick laugh like a bandit, but they would in a heartbeat if they had to save their own life

[covert slate]

i mean other loners attack you at the barge for an artifact

[worn oar]

they are controllers in disguise 🥸

[paper dust]

One of the SoC stashes refers to Strelok's group as Strelok faction https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Storage_of_the_Strelok_faction

when it comes to lore, how many actual factions are there?

I mean proper ones. not "factions" like loners, zombified, trader etc

[worn oar]

A faction is a large group.
A groupement is a group made of groups.
A sub faction is a group that operates on its own but often is directly or indirectly affilied with a certain faction but not under its leadership.

A group is simply a party of 2 to 10 or so. Strelok's group is simply a group

The game relations system counts all as factions.
Your player, traders, zombies, and all entities are faction there.

[paper dust]

Large group? Strelok's group only had Doc, Ghost, Fang and Guide, I guess? (Not really sure if Guide was a member of the group or just Ghost's pal)

[worn oar]

Just for a systemic purpose

[worn oar]

Well, that's a small clear up to the term faction. Read the message carefully and you'll get the point

[leaden stratus]

I hope the pseudo in the stalker2 intro was on very easy difficulty because one hit from it in any stalker was near instant death and it did 0 damage in the 2 movie

[paper dust]

It'd make sense to refer to Strelok's group as sub faction tbh. but calling it a faction is a very big stretch

[leaden stratus]

still the faction discussion, there are no factions just loners as you start and duty, everyone else is enemy

and the scientist to buy your stuff

[paper dust]

loner isn't even a faction

at least, it shouldn't be considered as 1.

Duty I suppose can be considered as an actual, proper faction

[leaden stratus]

as long as atheism a religion everything can be a faction

[stuck pewter]

atheism isnt a religion, its the lack of religion you dimwit

[paper dust]

Duty and Freedom, from my understanding are simply large clans of stalkers united by a certain ideology. with 1 leadership, and proper recruitment.

[stuck pewter]

its the exact same reasoning
loners arent a faction because they are the lack of one

[paper dust]

Also can Monolith be considered as faction? since yk, they're brainwashed fanatics.

[granite mortar]

Usually a mental disorder

[worn oar]

Haha funnily enough, I'm an MA student in history of religions and religions as whole never heard of atheism being a religion

[sand fiber]

yes they are

[sand fiber]

chymo you regularly use ":3" you're mentally ill too

[worn oar]

That's a faction

[paper dust]

but aren't they just controlled?

[sand fiber]

yes, still a faction

[granite mortar]

Yes :3

[sand fiber]

<3

[solid cosmos]

You're all mentally ill. We're in the stalker discord.

[nova wedge]

Omg :333333 everybody :333333

[granite mortar]

:3

[sand fiber]

haaai hiii haiii hiiiiiiiii >:3

[paper dust]

[nova wedge]

:3c

[worn oar]

Mercs are also a faction even tho they are a little similar to free stalkers in certain points

[paper dust]

experienced rank, noice

[worn oar]

Mercs have a base and leadership, but sometimes they deviate

[paper dust]

they seem like a proper faction in SoC at the very least.

description of merc suit in SoC refers to them as actual faction, and PDA entry about them mentions them having a base.

[granite mortar]

I always thought they arw one large faction with single goal but split into lot of semi-dependent squads with different personal goals

[hazy helm]

honestly probably a mistranslation

[covert slate]

buildo moment

[granite mortar]

Strelok is my fav faction:3

[worn oar]

Factions are all very self-defined. You can simply know the difference between a group, a faction, and a subfaction

[worn oar]

It is! The correct translation is always a group

[leaden stratus]

for me only duty had a real goal, everyone else had some superstition beliefs that i couldnt care less

[paper dust]

I disagree with that. For example both the military and the scientists are coherent groups, but they aren't really intended to represent factions. They are simply meant to represent the organizations that they are named after, and thus portray the government's input in the Zone. No one in dialogues refers to them as "scientist faction" or "military faction", just "scientists" and "soldiers"

[paper dust]

at least, in SoC dialogues.

[leaden stratus]

it's like brotherhood of steel in fallouts

[honest kite]

Bos is my favorite faction

[solid cosmos]

My favorite stalker sub faction is the mentally ill cat girls you find in the brain scorcher.

[paper dust]

gameplay faction and lore faction aren't the same thing at all.

[stuck pewter]

BoS is my favorite faction, but i completely disagree

[honest kite]

Average Polish men

[stuck pewter]

i think duty had the most far fetched out of all factions goals

[paper dust]

Is Duty's endgame goal even possible?

[stuck pewter]

to their PoV, maybe

[solid cosmos]

No but they think it is

[paper dust]

Destroy the Zone, but how exactly? Zone isn't even understood yet.

[leaden stratus]

make snorks a faction too and i will join anytime, i fear no men, but snorks.... those scare me

[stuck pewter]

wasnt sin supposed to be a half mutant faction

[solid cosmos]

Snorks make me act up. Dummy thicc mutants

[paper dust]

what a goofy aah faction, jeez.

this is like being edgy just for the sake of being edgy.

[indigo marsh]

I am pretty sure that's from LA

[worn oar]

To the system, strelok is a faction. Player duty and freedom are also factions there lol. (But they are cut from game)

[sand fiber]

eh, not really
they're just an even-more-cultish monolith

[paper dust]

So basically more schizo Monolith?

what was their goal?

[sand fiber]

yes, and not influenced by anyone iirc

[solid cosmos]

The only lore friendly faction is Freedom because they are on the boxart of most of the games.

[worn oar]

[paper dust]

Duty and Freedom

[worn oar]

The rest of them are chickens for you aren't they?

[paper dust]

Mercs

[worn oar]

[worn oar]

I've been seeing and clarifying faction stuff for 8 years straight now. I always end up repeating myself more than I can normally do

[paper dust]

no need for that. we all know that mercs are goated.

Freedom and Duty members can kill eachother all they want. they won't hear us mercs complaining

[worn oar]

From a personal perspective possibly! I can't really say that they are if any other factors are involved

[wet lark]

Whats the point if theyre just monoliths schizo redneck cousin

[paper dust]

There's none. that's why they got cut.

good decision on GSC's part.

[worn oar]

@pseudo rivet tell him about shamans

[wet lark]

A half mutant faction would be cool

[worn oar]

[stuck pewter]

being the schizo redneck cousin is the point, and a faction like that would be awesome

[paper dust]

as far as I'm aware shamans aren't half mutants nor they are more fanatical than Monolith members.

[wet lark]

Idk how thatd fit into the lore, but the implications are pretty interesting

[paper dust]

also, Crimson already told me about shamans before.

[stuck pewter]

a cool faction premise would be a faction like the old monolith

where they protect the zone, but arent brainwashed

[wet lark]

Yeah but its basically just monolith

[stuck pewter]

i just described freedom

[worn oar]

I'll leave the answer to Crimson

[wet lark]

You just described military i think

If you meant they guard the zone

[paper dust]

Freedom (in SoC) at least seems like very serious faction.

excluding the drunk Chef, obviously.

[indigo marsh]

Freedom wants the zone to be open to all. I don't think that's the old Monoliths goal.

[wet lark]

I wonder how many more stalker games they wanna make, will stalker 2 be the last or will they try to make more

[paper dust]

Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves fighters for a free access to the Zone and consequently find themselves in constant conflict with the army, military stalkers and the Duty faction. These so-called freedom warriors believe in sharing all information about the Zone with the rest of the world and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

[worn oar]

They are legendary stalkers who knew how to handle the zone. The zone tolerates them and they are not subject to her hostility.

[paper dust]

doesn't sounds the same as wanting to protect the Zone.

[wet lark]

They are protecting the zone

Look at their interactions with duty, duty wants to destroy the zone so Freedom protects the zone from Duty

[stuck pewter]

freedom is sorta flanderized by mods and community memes

[paper dust]

where can I find more info about old Monolith? sounds interesting.

[sand fiber]

they were before monolith and quite different

[wet lark]

So theres more to it beyond crazier monolith?

[neon nest]

hello

[worn oar]

Shamans are not monoliths. They are similar to them, but they are not affiliated with brainwash. They are few and often considered as legends

[naive fog]

Hey

[wet lark]

How many are there?

[restive shell]

hmm. stalker wants to sell me a medkit for... 2k...

[neon nest]

does anyone know the pc specs for da incomin game?

[stuck pewter]

MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 10, Windows 11
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X / Intel Core i5-7600K
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Storage: 150 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 10, Windows 11
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X / Intel Core i7-9700K
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
Storage: 150 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD

[worn oar]

I don't know. Crimson is better in terms of lore mastery.

[paper dust]

Shamans are Stalkers who seek to co-exist with the Zone. They don't show aggression towards the Zone and, thus, the Zone doesn't show aggression towards them (at least that's what Crimson told me)

[wet lark]

Ah okay

[sand fiber]

i don't remember a lot about them, but yeah kinda

[paper dust]

Monolith's goal isn't necessarily to coexist with the Zone, it's to protect its center from intruders.

[worn oar]

And it's subject to change. It may or may not remain the same

[paper dust]

and Monolith psy device too

[neon nest]

thanks... i guess it will run i got a gtx 1070 ti 8gb 16 gb ram intel core i5 10400f i got a bad processor so

[stuck pewter]

they better keep minimum at 1060-6gb

[celest blaze]

That's alot of gigs

[stuck pewter]

my 1060-3gb might just be able to work overtime and run it

[wet lark]

Still they seem kind of pointless to have around, im glad they didnt add them

[celest blaze]

I wish we added them tbh

[sand fiber]

they wouldn't be pointless if there was no monolith, which there weren't at the time of sin's conception

[stuck pewter]

they should add latin americans to stalker

[wet lark]

As a part of the story yeah theyre pointless if theres already an existing thing thats basically the same as it

[worn oar]

It might stay the same or go up a little. All they can do is to optimize the game as well as they can and I think they will be able to keep it that way considering the fact that the req was not updated already.

[sand fiber]

this kind of perception of sin seems to come from anomaly tbh, but again, i don't remember much about them

[solid cosmos]

Finally I updated my pc so I can run the trilogy at max with dx11 on

[wet lark]

Hopefully stalker 2 will have more diverse group of characters (the one time diversity actually helps the plot lol)

[celest blaze]

Based

[paper dust]

Isn't Mercenary Ara in Shadow of Chernobyl Armenian? He certainly sounds like 1

[stuck pewter]

im so glad they added a black stalker

[wet lark]

They need to add more frkm different places

[stuck pewter]

i remember saying years ago that i thought it was weird they werent a rare variant of stalker

[wet lark]

The black dude was cool but they need more asians and whatnot

[stuck pewter]

people from all around the world would be going to the zone

[worn oar]

The doc is somewhat a shaman himself. I might be wrong tho, but lorewise he could.

[stuck pewter]

people from all around the countries next to it certainly would

[wet lark]

Exactly, having people of different races all around the world would really help to enforce that

[stuck pewter]

russia has tons of asians in it

[paper dust]

PDA entry called "The chronicles of egghead globalists"

Right... I seem to remember you asking me about something last night, though I can't recall... Ah, got it. You wanted to know why it's only our eggheads messing around in the Zone. Curious why the foreigners won't show up, even though there's enough stuff here for thousands of Nobles prizes... Alright, let's see. First of all, what the heck do they need coming down here for, when they can simply pay some of our guys and get the results on a silver plate? Second of all, they've actually been there themselves, and quite a lot of them, too. It's just that in the last two years these gringos have been badly scared of going into the Zone..."

[wet lark]

Character customization would be pretty cool

[stuck pewter]

even though it makes no sense lorewise, i kinda wish the kabul zone was canon

i really like the setting

[worn oar]

Stalker 2 will possibly have more variants than any of the other 3 games. The team has the tec to do it now.

[wet lark]

Kabul zone?

[stuck pewter]

from one of the fanmade books

i remember stumbling upon one in the wiki one day and i fell in love with some of the concepts

Little is known about the Tribe at this time, other than that they were formerly a battalion of US Marines that have now become the most formidable fighting force in the New Zone of 2014. It's unknown how these men entered the Zone or why they are there. It is possible that they were stationed in the city of Kabul during the Zone's expansion to that area. They are featured in the novel S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Southern Comfort.

There are hints to the 1979 film Apocalypse Now as an inspiration for the Tribe. That probably means that the fictional Marines took matters into their own hands under a charismatic leader. The Tribe is also mentioned as playing a role similar to that of the Monolith faction in the game. The protagonist, Major Tarasov, is a Spetsnaz officer, and while a Marines-vs.-Spetsnaz showdown might be appealing, it isn't likely to happen in a book reaching out to English-speaking (therefore mostly US) readers. A faction war between the Tribe and Free Stalkers, or other factions, might be a different question.

[paper dust]

Wow, those are very interesting concepts gotta admit

[wet lark]

Oh hey I just read all that

So is the Kabul zone and actual zone that has all the Ukrainian noosphere stuff or is it just a really irradiated place

[stuck pewter]

its an actual zone

The story is set in 2014, eight years after the Zone came into existence around the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and two years after the events of Call of Pripyat. In the book's alternate reality, terrorists detonate nuclear warheads near Kabul, Afghanistan. After a few years, rumor starts spreading about a New Zone having been created there. Because nuclear fallout alone cannot create a Zone, the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences sends an expedition into the New Zone to find out if its creation could be connected to another rift in the noosphere. When they disappear, Major Degtyarev sends out Captain Tarasov (in 2014: Major) on a search-and-rescue mission.

[celest blaze]

Man I gotta give this a read

[stuck pewter]

Afghanistan would be an awesome setting for a stalker game

[celest blaze]

An afghan zone would be scary imagine the mutants it could spawn

[naive fog]

Sandworm copies for sure

[stuck pewter]

i like the idea of mountains, deserts, and valleys being part of the zone

[celest blaze]

Same

Oasis style anomalies tricking you into safety

[stuck pewter]

it'd be kinda like exploring red dead 2 again

im real tempted to read it just to expand its wiki article

[wild wharf]

Hey! Why do you have to call us eggheads?!

Oh wait, wrong reply, my bad

[paper dust]

Kruglov why were you acting like a fanatic? screaming URA and rushing like crazy.

[wild wharf]

Uh... I totally don't know what you're talking about

[paper dust]

[wild wharf]

Ok, I may have taken a bit of the freedomers weed that day

Don't tell the Duty dudes outside the bunker

[restive shell]

OH come on bandits stole my stuff ;_;

give me back my 301

[viral hazel]

Is there a way to get Console control set ups on the steam deck?

[stuck pewter]

bandits would steal yo dreams if they could

[restive shell]

hmmm. could i drop my items before entering that door... and pick them up again after the cutscene?

[stuck pewter]

yes

[restive shell]

lol

[stuck pewter]

maybe not on the ground

[indigo marsh]

How much money did you have before this?

[wet lark]

Imagine a zone in a jungle area

[stuck pewter]

but in a stash you definitely can

[restive shell]

6k ;p

[indigo marsh]

Say goodbye to it

[stuck pewter]

i like the idea of mountain deserts better
it fits the desolation of the zone better than predator the video game

[indigo marsh]

You can get your stuff back

[wet lark]

Youve watched those vietnam movies where the people there are stressed and going nuts right

[stuck pewter]

imagine the zone in india so you could have all of them

all the minecraft biomes in one country

[stuck pewter]

apocalypse now

never watched the movie but ive read heart of darkness, so close enough

[wet lark]

Mhm, now imagine that but its filled with mutated wildlife like mutated leopards hiding in the foliage waiting to pounce on you, or your comrades yelling out to you in the middle of the jungle when noones there

[stuck pewter]

thats predator

[wet lark]

No its not

Its far worse than predator

[stuck pewter]

[restive shell]

didnt want to play with just a handgun. stashed it all ;p

[wet lark]

In predator they just got one alien dude tryna kill you

If theres a jungle zone then its gonna be constant mutated things on you plus whatever else the zone may do to mess with your head

Imagine like the natives being turned into like a guerrilla monolith force

Theres so much you could do with that to make it some real psychological horror

[stuck pewter]

or oregon

for some fuсken reason

[wise blaze]

is it at all possible to get a physical copy of the OG games anymore? other than just getting lucky on ebay or something

[loud gate]

If you check your local stores, maybe, slight chances

[restive shell]

man that spread of 301 ;_;

[finite dragon]

Stalker devs. Please launch alexander on gog

[restive shell]

it's so bad compared to SoC version..

[wise blaze]

thx

[stuck pewter]

i got mine for 3 bucks off of amazon

[wise blaze]

oh sweet

[stuck pewter]

from a kansas city area goodwill

[wet lark]

Goodwill is goated

[stuck pewter]

people really be donating anything to goodwill

[loud gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDh0CFA3kKM&t=3s

[covert slate]

weapons are weird in Clear Sky on purpose to suede you into using the new upgrade system for more accuracy, durability, etc

[stuck pewter]

who is this "spartan mozi" fellow i keep hearing about in the paper

[stuck pewter]

i dont remember them being weird

maybe i just subconciously went straight to shotguns and never noticed it because of that

i used a hunting shotgun for the entire game

from the cordon to the cnpp, basically nothing else

[loud gate]

What kind of based man are you

[stuck pewter]

i use it in every game

in my gunslinger run i use only the hunting shotgun

[old jungle]

This is so good

[stuck pewter]

unless its really long range, then i am forced not to

[covert slate]

god i'm just remembering the reply we got when you posted Richter under my tweet where that dude wanted him dead

i checked his account and the only thing he ever talks about is cryptocurrency

so it was just weird that he broke that cycle to say that to us

[loud gate]

Who wants ricther dead lmao

What mental problems do you need to want that?

[covert slate]

dude only talked about fake computer money so i'd say he has many

[nova wedge]

He was just mad bc Richter is more than half the man he'll ever be

[loud gate]

[dim topaz]

Been waiting for someone to make this, really good stuff

[paper dust]

Richter Rizzler

[pseudo rivet]

Who?

[restive shell]

ok the spread on 301 is getting so annoying i might get the ballistics mod... i swear to go this is so bad compared to Soc

its so not fun missing 90% of the shots because of the spread

[pseudo rivet]

Tried upgrading it into a sniper rifle?

[restive shell]

no mechanics in garbage and i need to move to agroprom...

10 bandits with perfect aim and no spread on the way

ALSO i have 0 money because they stole it

the more i talk about this the more i get angry at the game lol. so many wierd choices compared to fantastic SoC

[pseudo rivet]

Clear Sky, my beloved

[hazy helm]

it was better in earlier versions bc they stole your inventory too and you had to retain it

[restive shell]

i need to make money somehow. i guess i could go back to dark valley and farm something..

[restive shell]

they still do but i dropped them in the stash in the same loaction lol

[pseudo rivet]

Wait, they removed that?

Since when?

What the grok?!

[restive shell]

hmm. do yo uguys keep the resistance artefacts? or should i just sell them? seems like +3 toxic is kinda bad

[pseudo rivet]

Depends on how often you go artifact hunting and what armor you've got

[restive shell]

i did find 2x artefacts that increase weight limit which is nice.. but i need to find a -rad one soon to use those lol

[pseudo rivet]

But I generally just sell them

[restive shell]

the base one from clear sky. need to upgrade asap

[pseudo rivet]

Ah, so the one without the gas mask?

[restive shell]

yep

[sacred steppe]

question, I found a document briefcase in the military cordon in soc I've only just started the game I was just wondering when is act 4 because I have to wait until then to turn it in

[restive shell]

you'll need it later for main q

[pseudo rivet]

Three options

1. Buy new armor
2. Join a faction
3. Play the game further

[restive shell]

kinda want to join stalkers for now but i bet their leader is in agroprom. whichc i cant reach rn ;p

[pseudo rivet]

Nope, Cordon

[restive shell]

oh

[pseudo rivet]

They're the ones bringing the fight to the Bandits, after all

[restive shell]

yep i know what ill do right now :>

EFF those bandit cheeky breekies

[pseudo rivet]

Bruh wtf is this grokking bs

[restive shell]

can artefacts spawn randomly? or only in those irradiated zones? i wonder if i should have the bolt/thingy out all the time when traveling

[pseudo rivet]

Or is he referring to the "tax" you have to pay when going to another area?

[pseudo rivet]

Anomalous areas and anomaly fields

[restive shell]

ah okay so no points in running with them out. thanks 🙂

[pseudo rivet]

Rarely stray anomalies

[paper dust]

This guy needs to take a chill pill.

[pseudo rivet]

We'll take 'em easy

[pseudo rivet]

The "border taxes" or the Black Market thingy?

[restive shell]

damn 3x night stars but no - rad artefacts ;_;

man.. the anomaly areas... filled with them with no way inbetween and instantly filling my rad meter too ;_; any tips on moving between them or it's just "upgrade your armor or die" kinda thing?

[pseudo rivet]

Carry some vodka and have fun

Once you get a Jellyfish or a Wretched, radiation won't be a problem

[restive shell]

i'm chuggin them like a true polsih guy ;p

[restive shell]

and i literally found one just now in cordon too lol 😄 now to get an armor with more than 1 slot

[loud gate]

What this

this whaT

[pseudo rivet]

If it's the case for the "border tax", then HOLY BASED unpatched CS is even more awesome

[indigo marsh]

There is limpid and I am pretty sure he can fully upgrade the trs 301.

Unless you are hostile to the bandits, then you have to go to cardan or use the duty technician

Also garin can upgrade the tr 301 but only tier 1

[paper dust]

Ok I started Clear Sky. 1 hour into the game so far, and oh my god...

why does Scar bleeds so much?

I like everything so far except annoying bleeding system.

[pseudo rivet]

To make sure you know how much he suffered to prevent the Third Disaster, the Chad that he is

[pseudo rivet]

Add kevlar to your armor. Even if you've only got a Leather Jacket

[paper dust]

Got it. thanks for the tip.

[pseudo rivet]

It's pretty poorly hinted, but they basically want you to do that

Even if it's just a Leather Jacket

[paper dust]

How many years old is Scar? he seems pretty old.

[pseudo rivet]

No clue

[paper dust]

Aye. will do. thanks again.

faction war seems neat, but I'm a merc fan so I actually don't want to join any faction XD

[covert slate]

be sure to get artifacts that help with bleeding and stamina, they work wonders

[worn oar]

[restive shell]

hmm. sunrise or beril 5m suit... one can hold 5 artefacts and the other only 2...

[paper dust]

i got another question: why doesn't Scar has a patch of his faction?

I mean mercenary emblem.

[gloomy knoll]

My guess: He isn't really part of the merc network but a loner in that regards

[paper dust]

This Beanpolev guy seems to know that the Zone was created by C-Consciousness

since he mentions that the Zone appeared as a result of misguided human actions.

[pseudo rivet]

Mercs aren't all Mercs

[gloomy knoll]

beanpolev? You mean Lebedev?

[paper dust]

no, Beanpolev

The Zone appeared as a result of the actions... let's call them "misguided" human actions, and we are unable to return to the status quo. The Zone cannot be destroyed, nor will it disappear of its own accord.

[gloomy knoll]

ah

Well bunch of those Clear sky folks were former scientists that took part in some of those experiments that were done in the zone

[sonic ravine]

I find it weird that nobody had the idea to blow up the brain scorcher

[paper dust]

but people call him merc tho? I don't understand.

[gloomy knoll]

Not ever Merc is part of the Merc group

[paper dust]

Barman Cold starts his dialogue with "Hello, merc!"

[paper dust]

so Scar is more of a freelancer?

[pseudo rivet]

Not all Mercs are Mercs

[gloomy knoll]

Yes

He's more of a freelancing Merc that was hired by the scientists for their Swamp tour

Like, generally folk entering the zone are called Stalkers. But not everyone must be part of the actual stalker faction that you can join ingame

[paper dust]

Since Scar is a merc (even if he doesn't seem to be very close to his faction), that means other mercs will be neutral/friendly, right?

[hazy helm]

there is no stalker faction, stalkers is the name given to those illegally trespassing into the zone

[gloomy knoll]

I am referring to the ingame faction you can actually join in one of the 3 games to give him an idea how it works with scar and the merc groups

[paper dust]

What's the deal with Renegades, though? I read dialogues of Clear Sky members and so far I only found just 1 dialogue referring to them

The Swamps are a haven for renegades of every kind. All types of people drop in here - random loners, outcasts from various factions, and just plain criminals. We welcome them all, only some get the open-arms treatment, and some the feet-first kind.

[indigo marsh]

I just realized something. The US gets a HE AT round at 3.0 with 130 mm of pen. The M4A3 Sherman (105) .

[dim topaz]

Renegades are basically bandits

Even their skin and voice lines are the same

[pseudo rivet]

I once found this, but I don't remember where I found it

Rumors speak of a small order of outcasts, hailing from all sorts of factions and groups of the Zone.

Seen how not even Bandit gangs want to stick around these stalkers, its reasonable to assume that Renegades consist out of the worst and meanest scumbags of the Zone. 

Sick of the rites of all of the factions, they seek to have payback for exiling them from the faction they previously belonged to, whilst also trying to prey on any unlucky lone stalker who crosses their path.

[gloomy knoll]

I was gonna say, I had in mind that the Renegades are those nobody likes

Because Bandits want to take advantage of stalkers, but know damn well offing them wont get them any cash in the long run