⭐┃nospoilers_general

[pseudo rivet]

SoC, right? Keep the GP 37

[paper dust]

Looks creepy even during laugher.

[granite mortar]

:3
Yeah
Im the besr

[paper dust]

GP37 is absolutely goated. Keep it.

[steady zealot]

“Get out of here Stalker”

[pseudo rivet]

:snork_true:

[paper dust]

@nimble cipher stop spamming my DMs

[granite mortar]

So :snork_true: bestie

[steady zealot]

X16 here we come

[paper dust]

X18 was nightmare fuel. X16 genuinely isn't creepy

[steady zealot]

Thank god

[paper dust]

At least, for me.

[pseudo rivet]

:snork_true:

[steady zealot]

I loved x18. Need to watch some lets plays of people tackling it and have a laugh

[paper dust]

Agroprom Underground is also stuff of nightmares.

[indigo marsh]

Ahroprom underground wasn't really that scary

Atleast for me

[pseudo rivet]

Just way more combat-heavy

Honestly, the Bandits are the hardest part

[paper dust]

Not scary my ass. Controller almost gave me a heart attack.

[indigo marsh]

The worst lab was x 8

[pseudo rivet]

It's more tense in a combat kind of sense

[naive fog]

After a while you get used to it but the lab in dark valley is by far the worst for first timers

[paper dust]

Bloodsuckers too.

[indigo marsh]

Which one was x 18 again? Was it the dark valley one?

[pseudo rivet]

Dark Valley one

[paper dust]

X18 is at Dark Valley. X16 is at Yantar.

[indigo marsh]

X 18 was defo the scariest

[naive fog]

Ye

[indigo marsh]

The MM was not as scary as x 18

[naive fog]

Nightmare fuel for the first time

[naive fog]

All the other labs were meh

[paper dust]

X16 was least scary 1 for me.

[indigo marsh]

For me that was agroprom

[pseudo rivet]

I still don't understand how people find X16 scary, ngl

That or they confuse X-16 and X-18 with each other

[paper dust]

Gotta admit tho, X16 music is pretty creepy.

[naive fog]

It's not but for the first time it's a massive shock after the whole game being happily shooting bandits and drinking

Sadly I don't remember too much of what it was like for the first time

[pseudo rivet]

You're referring to X-18, aren't you?

[naive fog]

Idk bro I'm getting Hella confused with everyone saying all the labs are different labs I haven't memorised most of them 💀

[pseudo rivet]

💀💀💀

[naive fog]

I know X-19 and X-8

[paper dust]

X18 is Dark Valley one.

X16 is Yantar one.

Dunno about other X labs. Haven't got that far yet.

[raven grove]

That skull emoji looks like a sad jellyfish

[lilac lily]

Ong bro fr 💀💀💀

[indigo marsh]

I just call the x 16 lab the MM

It's less confusing

[pseudo rivet]

X-16 do B X-16, tbh

[paper dust]

How many X labs are there in total?

[hearty panther]

Now i can't unsee it

[pseudo rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[raven grove]

[indigo marsh]

Atleast 18/19 (source: pocket lint)

19 if you call the brain scorcher lab x 19, and 18 if you call it x 10

[broken latch]

What

[tacit herald]

is anyone else not able to download the blind dog mod on xbox or just me

[hollow field]

would something like gunslinger mod be possible to port over on ps5 now with the mod support for consoles?

[loud gate]

No

[restive shell]

hmm i think a mission bugged.. clear the mercenaries: factory lobby i cleared it all, freedom guys constantly shoot at nothing. mission doesnt finish 😒

[granite mortar]

Why did you eay that
You know how hard it will be to unsee? 😭

[granite mortar]

Well then there clearly are some mercenaries left

Use demo_record 1
To fly around and find them

[restive shell]

yeah there was one sneeky breeky

[granite mortar]

:3

[broken latch]

Stalker AI is just that good

[granite mortar]

So true bestie

[covert slate]

remembering that the A-life in early development needed to be massively nerfed because they would finish the game for you

[plain mirage]

Stalker 2 will flop

[covert slate]

ok

[plain mirage]

It my prediction. It might sell ok on PC though. I just think with it having zero console presence for forever it's gonna flop.

I think it's a pretty good prediction too

[covert slate]

are you getting enough air? it's going to be on consoles

[plain mirage]

Ok I see you didn't notice I switched to talking about the series. Makes sense. It has zero presence on console until they just released it like a month ago. So what I'm saying they basically have no fan base on console. That's why I'm predicting a flop.

[nova wedge]

What are you on about

[plain mirage]

Predictions

[wise blaze]

so do we have any info on the physical edition in america?

[covert slate]

just yapping

[covert slate]

be sure to regularly check sites that are selling it, they periodically go back in stock before being bought again

[wise blaze]

L take fr
I came from PS a bit ago and its hella popular even for those who couldnt play til recently and plenty of people are annoyed that it looks like it wont be on PS

[wise blaze]

oh. well what sites sell it, ive only been looking at the official site, not any stores

[covert slate]

as far as i know it's only a timed exclusive with Xbox, they wouldn't sit here and put the original trilogy on PS5 if they weren't planning on eventually putting it on there

[nova wedge]

I think I saw someone say the same thing that it won't be a launch day for ps but will come eventually

[wise blaze]

yea. thats what ive heard

ive heard its due to sony being weird about licensing or something

[covert slate]

well that and they signed a deal with Microsoft for the time being

[wise blaze]

ye

[plain mirage]

This is a hostile industry. game series having no presence on console for 20 years. Me predicting a flop is not a L take. Tbh it's the most logical take.

[covert slate]

and as for sites that are selling it, i know the official website has it, but you might be able to also check other gaming retail sites for any luck

[nova wedge]

Dunno why I didn't think of that, I'll have to check the American ones then. I really want that damn figure the in hand pics looked really good

[wise blaze]

huhhhhhh? what in the brainrot. theres literally no logic behind that. "game didnt sell on console therefore people on console wont buy new one"

[plain mirage]

Also we have to remember stalker has been modded for countless years. Imagine having to satisfy those fans. I'm predicting a flop even if the games good.

[loud gate]

cry

[wise blaze]

same could be said for fallout yet you ignored that

[plain mirage]

Everyone hates fallout what are you on. 76 is one of the most controversial games in history

[wise blaze]

and yet, it still isnt a flop.

[nova wedge]

What even is the point of saying this do you think the devs are gonna be like aw damn you're right! Gonna pack it up and go home shows over everyone discord user thinks we won't sell xbox copies

[wise blaze]

and thats literally only 1 of the games

[covert slate]

we're gonna have a runner up for the yap awards here

[wise blaze]

whos current winner

[plain mirage]

You're talking about a scam. With a player base dating back years on console. That man said 16 times the detail stop the cap 🤣

[wise blaze]

what?

[loud gate]

Oaea or mybe Zombine

[wise blaze]

ah idk zombine

[plain mirage]

I'll be playing stalker day one though. I'll love it even if it's mid. Im just saying I think it'll flop hard.

[covert slate]

ok

[nova wedge]

Okay bro

[loud gate]

Not sure Zombine is even in this server, but I know he had cancer, so very sad for him

[wise blaze]

that makes literally no sense

[plain mirage]

How does this not make sense. Are you on the spectrum.

[wise blaze]

nice ad hom.
you will love it if its mid
if you love it, how is it mid
if its gonna flop, its not gonna be mid

that whole sentence is beyond one big contradiction

[covert slate]

a walking paradox

[wise blaze]

and you still never explained your claims about fallout

[loud gate]

Yes? WHY do you think it will flop hard.

[nova wedge]

We all are you get it when you join the server

[plain mirage]

Bro this is actually the easiest argument to win. Why would you even type that out. let's get started...

[wise blaze]

so then win it dawg

[loud gate]

let's see your argument then

[wise blaze]

thought this was ez. why it takin so long

[pseudo rivet]

Time to grab the popcorn

[covert slate]

Mozi you aren't gonna get a coherent answer outta this guy, he's just yapping to cause a ruckus

[wise blaze]

we know. its just entertaining to see them try to justify the braindead take

[loud gate]

Shhh, let me be entertained.

[pseudo rivet]

Okay, bet. Play LEGO Universe

[loud gate]

Finished.

[pseudo rivet]

What Level?

[wise blaze]

bro must not have any hands. its taken him almost 5 mins to type the easiest argument ever

[loud gate]

Oh nvm, it was another LEGO game

[plain mirage]

you can love bad things, Everything is preference you can understand problems and still love it as a whole. Something being 'bad, good, or mid" may impact someones perspective on it but the thing is nothing can be calculated when it comes to preferences. So you saying you cant love something that can be mid is the most unintelligent thing ever.

[pseudo rivet]

I love C&C4

[wise blaze]

annnnnnd that has literally nothing to do with what anyone here said

[pseudo rivet]

I hate C&C4

[loud gate]

this is not the argument why S2 will flop.

[pseudo rivet]

Come fight the Maelstrom with us

[loud gate]

Keep typing

[covert slate]

this dudes making nothing sandwiches, FOR FREE?!!?

[plain mirage]

If it's gonna flop it's not gonna be mid? I'm not gonna even go there. Tons of critically acclaimed games have flopped and studios shut down. Alan Wake 2 flopped. you know nothing about games

[loud gate]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wise blaze]

yea. a 9/10 from most critics is def a "flop"

1.3 mil copies sold. flopped badddd

[still ridge]

pretty sure it’s in top 3 wishlisted for steam

Def gonna be a top seller

and gamepass

[wise blaze]

won Best Art Direction, Best Narrative, and Best Game Direction such a flop

[still ridge]

It’s not like people aren’t going to play it

[wise blaze]

guyyys did u know that gta5 was a flop

[plain mirage]

Fallout is a game that has been on console forever. I used a quote the director used and you didn't even know what it was. That means your not even educated on this topic. This isn't a good example since stalker has never been on console until a month ago. Let's ignore that though. Scamming, lying, and actual fraud was committed on fallout 76. So unless stalker is capable of the same thing with zero console fanbase then its not comparable. Get out of here have a nice day. Easy ahh argument

[icy prism]

It's been a while since I've been here. I just wanted to congratulate GSC for making modding possible on consoles. It's a sign that the company really cares about the fans of their saga, and wants the community to grow. I'm not even a console gamer myself, but I thought it was a very good decision to do this, and I wanted to congratulate you on it.
Cheers to GSC!

[pseudo rivet]

This is fine

[wise blaze]

what quote from what director?
youre*
fallout 76. such a flop as to sell 1.4 mil digital copies and have 11 mil players right?
having a scam of a game does not mean it was a flop.
and you have yet to prove stalker has 0 console fanbase. which I did, because A. I was one, B. I know many.
and even if it had 0 sales on console, that does not mean it would be a flop as its 4th most wishlisted with 21400 people

nor did you win the argument. you dont get to just say "me wun teehee"

oh hol up its 3rd most. for some reason frostpunk is shown above it even tho its got less followers

[wet lark]

Gonna wait til stalker 2 gets like 10 million sales on launch for console and then clown on him for being wrong about it having no audience on console

[wise blaze]

fr

[still ridge]

It’s literally on gamepass

[wet lark]

I tried to find how many sales the trilogy got on console but I couldnt find it

[wise blaze]

ye i couldnt either sadly

[celest blaze]

Are people saying s2 gonna flop cuz its on game pass ??

[wise blaze]

no hes sayin its gonna flop for reasons he cant explain

[celest blaze]

Ngl it was a mistake stalker ever went to console

[wise blaze]

why

[celest blaze]

Console users have insufferable and awful takes

[wise blaze]

careful who you say that to haha

[celest blaze]

I used to be one and still own a few lol

[wise blaze]

same

[celest blaze]

I have faith stalker 2 will be awesome

[wise blaze]

me too

[covert slate]

no it's true, console users are insufferable, they are still in a stupid war over which company and piece of plastic they want to suck off more

[celest blaze]

Oh is the console war still on??

[covert slate]

definitely

[celest blaze]

That's honestly sad lol

[ripe hinge]

dont think they are nobody actually cares what device u play on nowadays

[wise blaze]

its lessened from what it was but some losers still do

[pseudo rivet]

PC Master Race

[paper dust]

Agree.

[celest blaze]

Gameboy advance SP master race ong

[covert slate]

especially on twitter, it's bad enough going there but that's where alot of the "conflict" still goes on

[ripe hinge]

PC be getting worse games than consoles man its just fkn battle royale or 5v5 spin offs

[celest blaze]

??

[pseudo rivet]

Fr, that and Micro

[celest blaze]

I miss my old nintendo handhelds tbh

[pseudo rivet]

I've still got them

[celest blaze]

Aye 👑

[pseudo rivet]

Including the Micro

[ripe hinge]

have u seen the releases past few years theyre literally ass besides few exceptions

[celest blaze]

I mean that's the entire state of gaming tbh

[paper dust]

PC Master Race.

[glossy jasper]

So quick question, I beat Stalker ShOC and got the true ending. What do I do now?

[pseudo rivet]

Play Clear Sky

[celest blaze]

Play clear sky

[paper dust]

Complete 2 other games.

[lethal orchid]

Play clear sky

[celest blaze]

Clear sky is goated

[ripe hinge]

Play Call Of Pripyat

[celest goblet]

There are good games coming out all the time just don't play the bad ones

[pseudo rivet]

Don't listen to the obvious troll

Play Clear Sky

[celest blaze]

Chad sky

[pseudo rivet]

Or blindly pre-order them and give them money

[ripe hinge]

Could never be me

Aint even preorder Stalker 2 dont trust it

[celest blaze]

Baulders gate 3 and stalker 2 are only games I've preordered

[ripe hinge]

Rayman on Emulator >>>

[celest blaze]

I was a deluxe BF5 preorderer and got screwed so I'm super selective now

[glossy jasper]

The CNPP level just made me sad

[ripe hinge]

who wonkin they willy rn

[buoyant trench]

I already got atexture mod and it makes the game much better ready

Already* I am very optimistic

[loud gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlXXtnh7R4o

cool bait + cheap plug

[wet lark]

What do you expect, its twitter

[paper dust]

[wet lark]

Twitters a breeding ground for incompetence and degeneracy

[paper dust]

Ain't that the truth.

Fully agree with you.

[wet lark]

You may as well discount that entire app when considering all the people who play console

[lethal orchid]

Me

... God he's hot....

[paper dust]

Bros typing with 1 hand LMFAO

[covert slate]

[lethal orchid]

I didn't even realize that lmfao

I was holding my coffee

This night shift will kill me

[wise blaze]

did he say something about liking dogs? my russian is bad, much less knowing what translates into ukraine, but soundes like he said нравится мохо себак
ik i didnt spell moxo right tho so and i forget what the word it translates to

[lethal orchid]

What 6 hours without stalker does to a mf

[loud gate]

I put subtitles for English on the video )

[wise blaze]

hah my bad. i only watched it in the discord so didnt look at that

[loud gate]

The lines match the scenes, so you could make out an idea

[wise blaze]

i have a hard time understanding legit speech so far. so i am sorta trying to practice where I can haha

navit sebe. I was close in some parts

def not like it is in russian tho

[loud gate]

The audio is Ukrainian

[wise blaze]

so wouldnt have helped for translating anyway

[paper dust]

Last line means "even yourself".

[wise blaze]

yea ik, the speech patern sounds the same to me, so for terms of doing words to text, I use these vids to practice even if the words dont translate

[hazy helm]

@glossy blade While reading the guidelines for Standalone mods, I got a few questions, you gave modders a grace period of until October for modders to change mods to fit the guidelines, my main question is if GSC will be striking and taking down every single mod that does not fit these guidelines even if said mod is an old mod that was created and uploaded before the guidelines were released, or if it will only apply to mods that were released or updated after the Guidelines were updated
I also want to ask, what exectly does whitlisting and banning mean? what does being whitelisted exactly mean? and what will happen to banned mods? are you reffering to a sort of internal list that you are advertising ( of mods) or will every banned mod be sent a cease and desist due to their non accordance to guidelines?
I ask that these questions be rectified, directly in the document so that everyone knows what is going to happen and what it exactly means

[subtle lily]

Trying to get back into SoC again after I stopped playing. I feel depressed when I play it. Guess that means the games doing something right

[celest blaze]

oh no are they pulling a rockstar? does this mean mods like CoC and all the other ones are in danger of being wiped off the internet?

[loud gate]

No, vasim panicking over nothing

[celest blaze]

just double checking cuz that would be horrible for PR and trust

[hazy helm]

your lack of panicking is worrying

[celest goblet]

If they introduce an official mod page for PC then it may have to follow the guidelines, but I don't think anything off that will be affected

[hazy helm]

no Guidelines are for every single mod for every single platform

[celest goblet]

well the FAQ specifies it is only for the Legends of the Zone release, though it also says you can email their support email with any questions that are not already answered, so I suppose we will see

[celest goblet]

Aha yes I see that there now

[celest blaze]

interesting read not sure what to think

[grim palm]

noms on a Snork finger

[fluid abyss]

Snork fingers: salty, sour, or something else?

[celest goblet]

crunchy i imagine

[wet lark]

So anomaly and gamma would be sent to the shadow realm?

[hazy helm]

reread it

[celest goblet]

No, they would just be required to follow the steps outlined during the grace period

[solid cosmos]

They need to do some easily doable things to remain available.

[celest goblet]

At least how I read it here

[wet lark]

Oh yeah

[solid cosmos]

Not sure what the ones with defunct teams like call of chernobyl or call of the zone [rip doctor x] are going to manage to do such a thing, but doesn't call of chernobyl require you to own the original games?

[celest goblet]

Yeah CoC will not launch without a valid install

[solid cosmos]

Then they are probably fine

[celest goblet]

Definitely have some concern for mods that have nobody around to maintain them any longer

[solid cosmos]

Cotz would be the same then

[wet lark]

Thats pretty lenient, all they gotta do is say their standalone mod is a fan made modification of GSCs games and theyre good

Unless im misunderstanding it

[celest goblet]

Well, if there is a hard part for some mods, it would be to adhere to the fan works guidelines and remove any third party music/visuals etc that I know some mods use

[solid cosmos]

European modders in shambles that they have to remove metro creatures from their mod

[wet lark]

Thats stupid

Its a modification of the original game, they should add whatever they want

Its their mod, not GSCs

[celest goblet]

Well I guess I should specify other copyrighted works that they do not have permission to use

[wet lark]

Then yeah

[bleak beacon]

does console mods mean anomaly??

[celest goblet]

No, it seems the capabilities for console modding are pretty limited, though it is better than nothing at all

[timber crown]

I'm trying to figure it out now lol

[covert slate]

thankfully those mods aren't coming to consoles

[bleak beacon]

thankfully? why lol

[ornate rampart]

there's a very obvious way to get console mods working

[zenith phoenix]

Stalker anomaly for console when

[visual cosmos]

I don’t see anything in the rooms so I wanted to ask. Do we have any idea when preorders for the physical Ultimate edition of Stalker 2 will release in America? Also do have any word on where it might be released? Amazon, GameStop, etc.

[hushed tide]

I got the mods to work on ps5

All you have to do is go into Mod.io find the mod you want and subscribe this works for me on ps5

[river dew]

Somehow I got the build guns and hands mod downloaded and I have no idea how 😂

And I have no idea what it changed either 😂😂

So it seems like Sony has stricter limitations on console modding but I’m not sure if that means Xbox will allow new guns map modifications etc etc

[hushed tide]

So there is 3 mods all up the dog one dose not work but the others do the build guns changes some of the guns to better textures and colour changes that I notice and the other one is better animation for the shotgun

The dog one will not show up in load order for some reason but a guy in the comments in mod.io is working on it

[glossy jasper]

Are snorks breedable?

[fluid abyss]

I mean they were humans right? So technically yes

Breed humans, turn into snores

Unless you mean breed the snorks themselves, well then there’s only one way to find out 😏

[visual cosmos]

I don’t see anything in the rooms so I wanted to ask. Do we have any idea when preorders for the physical Ultimate edition of Stalker 2 will release in America? Also do have any word on where it might be released? Amazon, GameStop, etc.

[fluid abyss]

nope

They did international sales a long time ago, I bought mine then, but so far no news for America sales

[celest blaze]

What a wild thing to open chat to

[visual cosmos]

Alright thanks, I signed up for the email but I wasn’t sure if they ever announced anything or not here on discord.

[broken latch]

@hazy helm why does stalcraft even exist, why hasn't GSC nuked it

[maiden zephyr]

if i remember correctly they have nests so im guessign theyre some weird offshoot of human that lays eggs. the babies would probably be deformed beyond regocnition anyways. then again, snorks are all men due to them being mutants of old soldiers

[lilac lily]

The hell are you even saying
Snorks are soldiers who completely lost their humanity due to psy emissions and radiation. They can't reproduce, especially not by laying eggs

[maiden zephyr]

i remember hearing something about nests, but i also acknowledged that

[digital lynx]

I finally preordered S2 Ultimate Edition on Steam !

I hope it will be worth it ! 🙂

[finite dragon]

Anybody know if gunslinger mod will be coming to xbox when more release?

[spring apex]

no way, it messes with scripts a lot.

[finite dragon]

Not even just a remake of the guns to make them look better? doesn’t seem like it would be that much

[spring apex]

the best it possibly get is the standard reload animations and models of gunslinger. but not fancy stuffs like its eating animations, un-jam weapon animations and others

"Gunslinger Lite version" lol

[sand fiber]

No, never

The closest thing you'll get is retextured weapons

[paper dust]

Not a chance. It's implied that snorks were once soldiers who, as a result of some unknown phenomenon, mutated and were degraded to their current state. This is mentioned in their description from the PDA encyclopedia in SoC.

[finite dragon]

Alright

[paper dust]

Yes. Male human soldiers

[sand fiber]

still breedable

[paper dust]

[sand fiber]

;3

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[wet lark]

If there be holes then use holes, if there be no holes then make holes

[fluid abyss]

Hmm good point, but that won’t stop women

[paper dust]

I think you guys need to take a shower.

[wet lark]

I took a shower an hour ago

[fluid abyss]

Could a Snork-Human hybrid baby even exist? Or would it just be human

[paper dust]

Take another one

[wet lark]

Women stalkers dont exist tho

[fluid abyss]

Won’t stop ecologists from taking samples and getting freaky with it

freakologists

[wet lark]

Freakologists😭

[wet lark]

Itd prob be a hybrid

Cause snorks are genetically modified humans

[dapper finch]

yet

[finite dragon]

Mods😏

[pseudo rivet]

Go Go Gadget Scarlet Flower!

[mortal parcel]

Nope. There are just guidelines to comply to. Already working on it.

[lethal orchid]

I hope gamma exclusive players will maybe buy the trilogy too

[lilac lily]

No lootable soiled underwear

[lethal orchid]

@mortal parcel if possible you should include the fact that you can get the whole trilogy for 10 bucks sometimes

I'm betting you a big reason people don't play the trilogy but do play gamma is because it's free

[lilac lily]

If you really wanted to play a 15 year old game you'd easily find a way to get it for free. A big part of those mods playerbase got introduced to Stalker by some YouTuber calling generic tactislop modpack #23 free Tarkov. There's a reason for so many jokes about Anomaly playerbase, ranging from turning off magic traps and dwarf wizards to looting soiled pants

[lethal orchid]

The excessive loot and crafting systems are definitely valid criticisms

[spring apex]

[lethal orchid]

I stopped playing because progression was not very fun

And the trilogy was more fun lol

[spring apex]

legit i discovered stalker through modpacks, but as normal sense of modded games in any gaming : "Play the vanilla version first to understand the game before playing modded version of it"

[lethal orchid]

Yep

[lilac lily]

It's also funny how whenever someone says they don't like Anomaly they're bound to have to a dozen highly passive-aggressive people explaining how it's your fault for not liking it and there's a mod configuration menu you can use to tweak the mod just to your liking

[lethal orchid]

Can you tweak it to have a good story

[lilac lily]

Nah man, story mods are cringe fanfictions, endlessly doing generic fetch quests is far superior.
Please ignore teleporting UNISG and bullet sponge Sin, they're totally not complete fanfiction

[finite dragon]

What type of mods other than texture mods will come to xbox

[finite dragon]

then whats the point of mods if all they can do is texture?

[mortal parcel]

Already added

[sand fiber]

there is none

[finite dragon]

So all that hype was for nothing

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

I get why scripting is locked but locking config editing is wierd

especially because you cant effectively change animations due to how they're programmed

[finite dragon]

Lame

[sand fiber]

yes, PC stays winning

[half bone]

ah great, random pings for no reason

[mortal parcel]

It has almost nothing to do with EFT mechanically speaking.

[mortal parcel]

the message was removed by the bot

[half bone]

you don't have to respond to a 1 day old message

[mortal parcel]

1 day, a lifetime in discord I guess

Ok. How many models from EFT are in GAMMA?

• AKS
• AK74
• toz-106
• DVL
• VSS
• some attachments

I think that's about it

[glossy blade]

For the already existing mods we decided to launch a rectification period. If there is no harrasing, harmful or inapropriate content, and the mod is alligned with our EULA and this guideline — the mod should be fine. Just implement the credits to original game as a disclaimer and you're good to go.

Each case is unique and we need to investigate each question about each mod in particular, so for more info it is a good idea to contact [e-mail]

[hazy helm]

What will you do for the miriad of mods that do not have its uploaders to update them? Stalker modding is very old and many of these creators have already left the web

[mortal parcel]

I looked at other ones that are available and they aren't that great either. I try to remove as much EFT models as possible. But tbh, EFT models are good. How they look is a matter of taste, but you can't deny that the models are good. And how they look is mostly about the texture, not the model itself.

Now about the "tacticoolness". I removed most of the ultra tacticool guns. Now if you think a laser is tacticool, get a hold on reality considering Anomaly is set in 2018.

[glossy blade]

The main idea before fan creation guideline document is that we have long-term plans for expansion of our franchises and thus we would like to set the clear boundaries for fan-driven creation built around them. For mods that are old and no longer update each case is unique and is treated with that in mind

[half bone]

oh yeah, you forgot to add 100 varieties of each gun in this list

[mortal parcel]

One issue with Anomaly is that by default the functionnality to open external links from within the game has been removed for security reasons. This engine functionnality allows multiple things, including launching system commands like rebooting the comptuer. This can lead to security issues, so I'm not sure the functionnality should be re-enabled just for the sake of clickable in game buttons opening a web page leading to steam or GOG store. I think the matter should be discussed seriously.

[hazy helm]

but what does that mean mol1t? are you saying that mods that are older (specifically ones that havent been directly updated) than the release of the guideline are exempt or a vague "every case is special" that satisfies no one? and what does Banning mean? what does this entail? are you striking them off the web?
Also in the menu part does it need to be inside the game? do the hyperlinks need to be usable? or is it fine to have it in the mod description of the mod page

[glossy blade]

We are open to have a dialogue and find a solution fitting both sides

[restive shell]

Guys any tips on making money mid game in clear skies? I've done some quests for freedom in dark valley but I feel like I need to upgrade my armor rn.

[hazy helm]

faction wars

[glossy blade]

@mortal parcel [e-mail] is a good pace to start this discussion

[mortal parcel]

Perfect. I did my best to raise awareness and comply with the guidelines on the GAMMA side (on the discord and github side of things). I can add these links and buttons to the GAMMA launcher if needed. The same could be done most probably on the Anomaly launcher, but I can't speak on behalf of the Anomaly devs.

[mortal parcel]

Will do. Thanks.

[restive shell]

I haven't yet joined any tho.

[glossy blade]

It basically means that we are not launching the war against all the mods. We are just setting the rules that will be used from now on as a starting point

[dapper finch]

I'm just worried about CotZ :/

[hazy helm]

you arent explaining anything I asked tho, I need an assurance at the very least, and the document needs to be changed so as to not leave any room for vague interpretation, everything needs to be explained

[half bone]

oh shiet,

What about coc too?

[glossy blade]

If there is no inappropriate content, and the mod is with our EULA and this guideline, mod should be fine

[hazy helm]

but I ask again, what if the mod is very old, and doesnt have any support to have these changes, or the modder who made the mod is no longer around or able to modify this mod?
if such cases are not going to be banned it should stated in the document directly and concretely along with factors that quality such a mod

also

you have not responded to what "whitelisted and banned" means, what are you whistelisting it to? an internal list? and what does banning entail? will you be sending a Cease and Desist to mods that you "ban", that arent in accordance to these guidelines?

[dapper finch]

Yeah it's old stuff with no maintainers that are at risk as they can't add menu links.

[glossy blade]

We might create a list of GSC approved mods that we will feature via our social media.

[half bone]

well, some mf's are definetly going to archive these old mods

[hazy helm]

is this all that whitelisting means? and what does banning mean? what will happen to a banned mod?

[dapper finch]

Of course, but I don't want to see DrX's magnum opus get nuked.

[glossy blade]

I think you are mentioning rectification procedure. It is only for mods that do not require the original game to function

[hazy helm]

yes and these are the mods that Im talking about as there are many of these mods that simply cant do these changes, and I need to know what will happen to them, and how will you distinguish beetween mods that can make the cahnges and not

[lilac lily]

What's with the fact that just about every mod there is uses third party assets and sounds? Is that against the new terms?

[dapper finch]

The question is do you have the legal right to be using those third party assets

Which is a common sense requirement for GSC to be ok with it.

[glossy blade]

again, each case is unique, this is why we approach the procedure cautiously

[hazy helm]

that doesnt respond to the question, what are the rules you will use to destinguish beetween the mods that can make these changes and those that cant?
and what will happen to mods that cant make the change? will they be taken down from modding websites?

[sand fiber]

and that still cuts like half the mods in existence

[dapper finch]

Eh, GSC could've gone after those mods a long time ago

[lilac lily]

I mean, that's in a grey zone just like the rest of the modding. The owners of the assets neither approve nor oppose the usage (if they're even aware of it)

[glossy blade]

there are no such set rules because of the fact that we understand all the backstory and consequences of the many years of mod-creation,. It allows us to be cooperative and understanding to the modding community and treat each case separately

[finite dragon]

Sorry for interrupting, but what is this discussion about?

[dapper finch]

updated terms for modding

[glossy blade]

This is a starting point of fan-driven cooperation for years to come

[dapper finch]

Afraid to say that's not grey at all, legally you can't use someone else's work without express approval.

[sand fiber]

vasim tortures a contract-bound community manager

[lilac lily]

It's all grey until they sue you

[finite dragon]

Hmmm… interesting…

[hazy helm]

ok, sure, I understand this, but it is my point that how it is explained in the guidelines is not descriptive and leads to confusion of legal terms, clarifications need to be given, especially with how youll handle mods whose last update was before the guidelines release
also, exactly what does menu mean, where should it be put and should the hyperlinks be fuly functional

[finite dragon]

70 days left until stalker 2🗣️🗣️🗣️

[half bone]

looool

[granite mortar]

dammit, stupid discord

[glossy blade]

We should have legal guidelines of fan creation, and we want them to be easy to understand, we start this process and it we want it to be a cooperation, not a confrontation.

On the links part: it is a suggested solution, not a strict "do it that way rule" . All the modmakers are free to discuss all their ideas on how to find a fitting solution to our wish with us at [e-mail]

[granite mortar]

the chat always gets stuck and only moves after I send something

[half bone]

nah it definetly was a mod

[granite mortar]

no, I got rid of it because it was related too cnversation I had on screen, screen that was stuck 30 minutes back into the convo

[dapper finch]

Can the rest of us pitch in where the mod maker is AWOL or deceased?

[half bone]

oh

[granite mortar]

[half bone]

are mods like AN4 allowed?

[dapper finch]

That's just an addon

The discussion is about standalones

[half bone]

yes, but it technically doesn't meet the requirements

like you can't add or change levels, which AN4 does

or that's only for the console version

[dapper finch]

I'm not seeing that

[sand fiber]

chymo you HAVE to delete 300gb of mods from your hard drive, it's violating GSC policy

[dapper finch]

Oh adding levels wouldn't even be possible on console

[half bone]

AN4 updates the levels with new tree models and some other stuff

[verbal osprey]

Wish gsc didn’t limit the mods on Xbox due to Sony wanting to ruin the fun

[granite mortar]

nuh uh

[half bone]

yes uh

[granite mortar]

never
you will never get me alive

[dapper finch]

As long as it's done by modifying the existing models it's fine. Otherwise it's not even possible.

The wording's a little confusing but here...

Oh I can't do images

[glossy blade]

If using our assets, just ensure that all changes respect the intellectual property rights of GSC Game World. If in doubt that your idea may violate this, contact us, we will be happy to help.

About using third-party assets — in general, we are against it, unless you specifically own the rights to use that third party content from its owners. Additionally, if you still decide to do so - specifically mention that your mod is a Fan Created Content, and the GSC Game World has nothing to do with it. Be ready to face the legal consequences from third parties in case they believe your use is against their policies/vision.

To cut the story short — you can still use them, but specifically mention that GSC has nothing to do with it and be ready to face any legal actions from the owners of the third-party content.

[half bone]

They never mentioned about adding new levels or changing current ones are allowed. If you added new models to an existing or on a new level, it wouldn't meet the requirements.

[dapper finch]

You can't add new assets, only modify existing ones

So you can "add" things but only as replacers

[sand fiber]

all you can do with the current modding tools are re-textures, no new models, no new animations, no new maps, no changing maps

[half bone]

Yes, but the trees that AN4 has are "new assets"

The models are completely different.

[dapper finch]

Yes that's fine as long as they're not stolen assets and they are a 1:1 replacer of a vanilla asset

[half bone]

Ok

So, procedural trees will be fine ig

[dapper finch]

I'm still curious with audio whether you can alter the length of audio clips or they need to be the same length

[dapper finch]

Not if that's new procedural code, won't work

[half bone]

Should be fine for me. Almost all of the sdk assets that I have were released publicly for everyone to use.

[half bone]

Nah, it basically generates new types of trees which look really good

[dapper finch]

External procedural tool?

[half bone]

The tool isn't mine. It's from werejew, and it was made to work for unity

[dapper finch]

Nice, gotcha, I thought you meant live procgen (which I totally want to experiment with in s2 modding)

[half bone]

Then he'd export the assets to .fbx and I can convert them to work for stalker

[paper dust]

Guys I entered CNPP and now I can't return to previous locations? why? (Shadow of Chernobyl)

[paper dust]

I meant that Pripyat stadium. After I entered there I ended up at CNPP.

[hazy helm]

endgame

[granite mortar]

yeah
no reason to go back

[paper dust]

So it's intended? Ok then. Time to reload previous save

[granite mortar]

[paper dust]

I don't have a lot of ammo. my armor is completely wrecked.

[half bone]

run around with a knife

[paper dust]

Game honestly should've warned about CNPP being so called point of no return.

[half bone]

bro, it's from 2007...

they didn't have a lot of budget at the time, and it was being developed since 2001

[paper dust]

Just 1 message isn't that much of a hassle.

[hazy helm]

were you expecting to just turn back in beetween a full military assault?

in this case

youre just absent minded

[paper dust]

literally just 1 message saying something like "are you sure you want to go there? That location is point of no return." would suffice.

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-god-funny-the-office-trying-not-to-laugh-jim-the-office-gif-26533338

[paper dust]

I didn't know there would be a military assault? It's my first time lol.

how am I expected to know all that stuff during the very first playthrough?

[hazy helm]

I am always surpised byu how absent mindedly ppl play games without even thinking if they should push forward or not, you are locked into the end game as soon as you step into the stadium

[paper dust]

it's not about pushing forward. it's about not being able to return to previous locations.

[hazy helm]

yes

[paper dust]

and even that wouldn't be a problem IF game actually warned players about point of no return.

[hazy helm]

should the game warn you when every bullet hits the character?

[paper dust]

what even is that comparison?

If I knew that Pripyat stadium would be point of no return I'd enter it later.

Game should warn players about such stuff. that's valid criticism on my part.

[half bone]

why would they maintain a 17 YEAR OLD GAME?

[paper dust]

literally just 1 warning message would be more than enough

[hazy helm]

It is pretty obvious that you were pushing into the last stage of the game

Why didnt you think of resupplying?

[half bone]

yeah bro

[paper dust]

I thought I could return to other places even in case of entering new locations. Looks like this isn't the case.

Good thing that I had hard saves.

Otherwise I would have to start a NEW GAME.

[hazy helm]

No not really
There is a plethora of equipment available in the cnpp and in that section you're supposed to scavange the corpses

[half bone]

I feel like he just rushed through the game lol

Like me, but I at least cared enough to resupply

[paper dust]

Didn't we all? in our first playthroughs?

[half bone]

No, some explored. Stalker isn't all about gunz and freedom fighting units

It's about exploring the levels, too.

Each playthrough of SoC is different, due to A-life

[paper dust]

I was low on ammo, and my armor was wrecked. that doesn't excludes the fact that I explored many places.

[half bone]

You didn't care enough to resupply though.

[jaunty junco]

its not that deep lol

some players make mistakes

[half bone]

Nah, bro is soft locked

[paper dust]

thank you. finally someone who gets it.

[half bone]

He can't go back

[paper dust]

I can since I made hard saves.

[jaunty junco]

I made the same mistake you did, all I did was load an earlier save and stocked up some more

eventually finished the game

[hazy helm]

No I didn't play thru the game absent mindely doing nothing but the main quest

[half bone]

It'a quite obvious bruh. He could have checked his inventory.

[solid cosmos]

Someone ported a weapon mod and did animations for it for call of pripyat, I'm thinking about checking it out to see what is different.

[hazy helm]

At least not in my first playthru

[paper dust]

good for you.

[paper dust]

point of no return isn't obvious. game literally doesn't gives you any warnings. and even if those were last locations I still assumed that I would be able to go back.

[half bone]

Plus, the blue part of the hud literally shows your armor durability.

[dapper finch]

The point of return isn't obvious yeah

[paper dust]

assumption based on logic.

[paper dust]

exactly. thank you.

[jaunty junco]

I know what you mean

[hazy helm]

Why should the game make up for your thoughtlessness?

Is my main question

[half bone]

The game isn't supposed to be easy. I assume you chose the master difficulty, yes?

[paper dust]

Why wouldn't game actually warn people about important things? how about that? because it's also a good question.

[paper dust]

yes. Master difficulty.

[dapper finch]

It's not thoughtfulness, the game suddenly goes nope you can't go back even though everything so far allowed backtracking, using stashes to store things etc

[half bone]

If you played gunslinger on master, it literally wouldn't show you the hud because of the game difficulty.

[paper dust]

^

[hazy helm]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with not telling the player the point of no return

[grim cove]

If I was in Avon's situation I'd also get a bit frustrated, it indeed seems like an annoying thing to happen

[dapper finch]

The fact you might want to continue to play the game and not lock in the ending already?

[half bone]

Yeah bruh, this ain't some ez game.

[hazy helm]

Then don't play the last mission?I fail to see the issue here

Unless you play on autopilot

[dapper finch]

How would you know it was the last mission lol

[half bone]

Like, what's wrong reloading the last hard save? You can just resupply.

[jaunty junco]

yall are taking this way too seriously lol

[paper dust]

Ikr

"If you're homeless just buy a home" aah logic. this is my first time here.

[dapper finch]

Btw if you play Clear Sky, the point of no return is the bridge to limansk

[hazy helm]

Narratively and thru the map?
The game gives you all assurances the assault of the cnpp is the last thing you'll do

[half bone]

It's pretty obvious

[jaunty junco]

Dude asked a simple question and instead yall are roasting him

[paper dust]

I literally have 0 idea what to expect aloo

[grim cove]

I think so too, what happened has happened

[half bone]

Cnpp is an end game area, how would you FAIL to realize it's the end game?

[paper dust]

I didn't fail to realize that it's one of the final areas. I simply fail to realize that it's a point of no return which won't allow you to go back.

[jaunty junco]

this is why I rarely join discords of games tbh, always some mfers wanting to start something

[paper dust]

even from Pripyat you can go back to previous places.

[half bone]

Well, that's a YOU problem.

[hazy helm]

I dunno,maybe check the map and read the dialogue and the mission tab, it's pretty damn clear

[grim cove]

I joined yesterday and I already feel intimidated even though I avoid texting in here 😭🙏

[dapper finch]

A map that only exists for a linear run is bad design in a game built around free exploration and backtracking. The NPP maps were wasted in SoC and not used that well in CS either. Wasn't until freeplay mods that the NPP was really done justice.

[tender torrent]

@hazy helm I think what Mol1t wanted to say concerning the Mods, there will be a selection of new Mods which must respect the property rights of GSC Game World concerning the old Mods these do not belong to the company itself and therefore no It is not in the company's clause in case of problems.

But finding an agreement with the two parties would simply resolve the problem of not having the right to old Mods which could still be used.

Discussion question on this simply

[paper dust]

no dialogue said that Pripyat stadium is point of no return. wtf are you on?

[half bone]

Some do

[jaunty junco]

At least it isnt as bad as some dayz servers lol

[hazy helm]

Do you want the game to sit you down like you're a baby and tell to your face that this is the last mission and that you cannot return
The game tells you thru it's text that the last thing you'll do is the cnpp, thru story telling and dialogue, unless you just forget every single line and tone, I don't see how you can just ignore it all and then blame the game for not treating you like a child

[paper dust]

Ok then provide dialogue that directly says that Pripyat stadium is a point of no return.

[half bone]

You act like if you played the og trilogy, but this is your first time finishing SoC. Why do you assume that you know better than us?

[grim cove]

Never tried dayz so I can't say anything, but I trust your word!

[dapper finch]

All games should indicate the point of no return. Always. Because accidentally being locked out of the rest of the game is shit.

[paper dust]

I read many dialogues. so far I have never seen dialogue directly stating something about Pripyat stadium being point of no return.

if there is feel free to provide it.

[dapper finch]

Note that end of the game and point of no return are not synonymous

[hazy helm]

Games should not be required, saying this is a falling net for those that do not read dialogue of quests, or check the map

[dapper finch]

Plenty of games just don't have a point of no return. Call of Pripyat for instance.

[jaunty junco]

It can be fun but the game runs like piss and the people are soaked in it

[finite dragon]

Or you can use your brain and realise that the CNPP is literally the final mission of the game

Gosh modern gamers want an insane amount of handholding and pop ups

[hazy helm]

CoP has a point of no return

[half bone]

It's the users problem. How would you not know if you're ready or not for the final mission, it's pretty obvious. If you're not ready, then don't go.

[hazy helm]

[sand fiber]

you'd have no reason to go back from CNPP anyway

[dapper finch]

The dialogue and map say end of game NOT point of no return

[dapper finch]

Final mission does not infer point of no return...

[dapper finch]

No it doesn't. You can stay in the zone after the last mission

[hazy helm]

If you're as brainless as to not fire the 2 synapses required to make the connection then yes I can see how you'd require such a thing as a little box that says

[dapper finch]

Why are you being so antagonistic?

[hazy helm]

CoP has a freeplay mode unfortunately but it still features a point of no return before this freeplay mode

[half bone]

Well, that's what modern games want you to think about lol.

[jaunty junco]

someone played the game differently to him

[paper dust]

Superiority complex, I guess.

[solid cosmos]

Testing out that Ak47 mod for Call of prypiat on the series X is neat. It modifies the model and the animation for reload and seems to work well and looks nice. I can't wait to see more weapon ports.

[tender torrent]

The fact that we can't go back on the final mission won't change much.

[half bone]

It's sad that it's quite limiting on what you can do.

[dapper finch]

Nothing to do with mods, CoP does not lock you out of continuing to explore the zone.

[half bone]

I'd like to edit the existing levels, but I can't.

[hazy helm]

It was a mistype

I said mode

[solid cosmos]

I think people will work around the limitations to make neat things. It happens anytime you end up with limitations on something like this. They push them to their limits.

[hazy helm]

Yes it has a freeplay mode but it still features a point of no return where it locked you in the map to continue the story

[dapper finch]

That's not relevant. Being able to continue to play the bloody game.

[verbal osprey]

So I’m guessing it’s not possible for a free roam mod on console for soc and clear sky

[half bone]

Yes, but you can't do massive overhauld though.

[hazy helm]

This feature actively harms the game in this case so I don't see why we're talking about it

We are talking about Points of No Return

Not Freeplay Modes

[dapper finch]

No it doesn't, it's the reason I played CoP more than either of the other games.

[solid cosmos]

No, but it gives xbox and ps players a taste of what Stalker on pc has to offer.

[dapper finch]

A point of no return is where you lock in the end of the game and can't carry on exploring...

[paper dust]

Freeplay? harming the game?

wtf is this guy smoking LMFAO

[dapper finch]

Like the original ending of Fallout 3 was a much hated point of no return. The DLC fixed it by letting you carry on playing.

[paper dust]

harming how exactly?

[solid cosmos]

Still want the gamepad support for the trilogy on steam lmao

[jaunty junco]

on that freedomer pack

[hazy helm]

The freeplay mode makes the entire story a joke, and ruins it's impact
It is only good for ppl who are so dumb that they cannot disengage from the main story to attempt side quests something CoP encourages many times
In short
If you aren't doing side quests it is a pure skill issue on your part

[verbal osprey]

Don’t think free play harms it in any way at all I like the free roam in call of Pripyat to chill out and play

[dapper finch]

I'm done with your crap mate, was with you in the discussion with molt but turns out you just want to pick a fight with everyone

[half bone]

Freeplay mods = no story

[hazy helm]

Not it's not possible

[sand fiber]

you can just??? roam??? in the game??? without mods??? and do side-quests???

[verbal osprey]

Yeah I thought so at least I’ve got saves on them before the point of no return just to relax in

[hazy helm]

I fail to see how articulating how freeplay harm's a narrative driven game is equal to picking a fight

[half bone]

It's not possible with the current gsc terms.

[verbal osprey]

I know I already do that just wondered if that was ever possible or not

[jaunty junco]

youve been antagonistic the whole time lol

[hazy helm]

All these nets are made for players who cannot turn the brain on
They are safety nets and completely unneded

[half bone]

So basically, misery mod won't exist on consoles.

[paper dust]

How exactly does freeroam harm the game? how did you come to that conclusion?

[half bone]

It becomes boring af

It's literally a fetch quest simulator

[grim cove]

Isn't the money for the game already paid and the player should have the full right to do whatever their heart desires on the game, including free roaming?

[paper dust]

Dude has superiority complex is all.

[jaunty junco]

oh dear, people want to enjoy the game they got the way they want to play it? unthinkable

[paper dust]

typical from Discord mods.

[half bone]

That's just his opinion. He didn't say that you're not allowed to play with freeplay mods

[solid cosmos]

That's not how it works lol

[jaunty junco]

im gonna play soc on easy just to spite some of yall

[grim cove]

Please tell me then, I'm new to the game

[half bone]

[grim cove]

YOU CAN PICK DIFFICULTY LEVELS ?!

[jaunty junco]

options in settings

[grim cove]

This is the best day of my life

[verbal osprey]

Why’s everyone having a meltdown about a free roam option just chill out and enjoy the game the way you want too

[hazy helm]

Freeplay Mode after the main story actuvely harms the story bh awkwardly setting younsown with no climax or purpose
This is only a perk if you assume the player is the lowest common denominator that cannot decide to do side quests before the end of the game which is clear to everyone

[half bone]

I'm not.

[solid cosmos]

If the game isn't designed around it, and the option doesn't exist, then you can't do it. for Clear sky and Shadow of chernobyl the option doesn't exist to free roam. In call of prypiat it does.

[sand fiber]

yes, i recommend the "Back" difficulty option

[ripe hinge]

If u RP in Stalker ur parents dont love u

[half bone]

I was arguing about the point of no return, and they twisted the story.

[hazy helm]

Options in the game tab

[jaunty junco]

everyone else is having a fit, meanwhile im here toking up having fun watching people argue lol

[hazy helm]

You can choose diff levels
Save the game to make sure it sticks btw

[grim cove]

Thank yall :33

[half bone]

Misery isn't a freeplay mod, but it has similar gameplay to anomaly.

[verbal osprey]

Same here it’s quality came in here an hour ago everyone’s discussing mods and now it’s a meltdown cos someone has there knickers in a twist cos someone else likes free roam

[ripe hinge]

wait till you find out what happens when you say one mod is better than another and vice versa, actual pure virgin behaviour

[solid cosmos]

Yeah don't be afraid to put it on the easiest difficulty. There's an old myth that the enemies are easier on harder difficulties, but it isn't true.

[paper dust]

What about collecting stashes? getting achievements you couldn't/didn't get before?

[half bone]

Misery mod is best

[hazy helm]

You can do this before starting the main last quest line no?the game gives you more than enuff ways to do all of these
If you willingly choose not to you should suffer the consequence

[half bone]

If you're a hardcore mf, play NLC7

[hazy helm]

NLC sucks

That's why it's good

[nimble cipher]

lady.sarrin has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[half bone]

L

[jaunty junco]

I play what I like, screw what others think

[half bone]

Join date definetly checks out.

[paper dust]

[jaunty junco]

god you're an annoying prick

[hazy helm]

God forbid someone expressed a opinion about a mod in a spirited or fun way

[half bone]

Lol, what are you gonna do about it? Cancel me on twitter?

[hazy helm]

We must kill the individual who does not treat discord like a lawyer document

[jaunty junco]

[ripe hinge]

All mods are ass what r u gonna do about it fellas

[half bone]

Mods in stalker were made by people who HAVE their own VISION about the game.

[sweet belfry]

stalker

[jaunty junco]

go to the real exclusion zone and live my life a free s.t.a.l.k.e.r

[sand fiber]

STAEKKREL~!!!!!

[half bone]

It's just a location

You don't get the real experience.

Wait for another boom boom, and then go there.

[sweet belfry]

what r u guys arguing about

[grim cove]

Thank goodness imo

[half bone]

Yapping about something

[sweet belfry]

womp womp

[half bone]

??

[verbal osprey]

Be easier to say what ain’t being argued about

[half bone]

[grim cove]

Unrelated to the argument but can someone tell me how to pass the cordon tunnel without dying from electro anamoly

[sand fiber]

kill the military

[grim cove]

Uh oh, the one a short walk on the right of the tunnel ?

In shadow of chernobyl btw, sorry, forgot to mention

[solid cosmos]

You should be able to trigger the electro's with a bolt then run through

[grim cove]

..that's actually very smart!

[jaunty junco]

all about timing, you can also throw a bolt and run through it immedietly without taking damage

[solid cosmos]

The window is very short, but you can do it. Just make sure you save at safe spots

[paper dust]

I just killed Kuznetsov and his guys tbh.

[half bone]

Kill the military mfs or bribe 'em

[solid cosmos]

Make a save at the entrance and go from there

[grim cove]

How to bribe them? They attack me as soon as I approach

[solid cosmos]

Keep your weapon holstered as you approach I think

[nimble cipher]

_flangel has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grim cove]

SORRYYYYY I DIDNT KNOW

[half bone]

Reload your save, and approach them with no weapons out. Then come closer to the commander and pay him 500, do not attempt to cross over him, or he'll open fire.

[paper dust]

did you shot them? Kuznetsov and his guys didn't attacked me until I didn't attacked them myself.

[grim cove]

How to pay them?

[half bone]

You just talk to him

[grim cove]

How to recognise the commander though

[solid cosmos]

Talk with Kuzentsov. He's the dude with the beret

[half bone]

The guy who speaks in english

[grim cove]

Alrightt, I'll try !

[paper dust]

His name is "Major Kuznetsov"

you can actually talk to him, despite his hostile attitude towards you.

[grim cove]

Okii, thanks to everyone for the help, you guys are awesome :33

[jaunty junco]

just so you know, its 500 everytime you want to cross

not a one time payment

[paper dust]

@half bone still waiting for that dialogue.

[fresh niche]

Does anyone know what type of mods will be available on consoles? Will it be only simple animations and reskins or will bigger mods be possible if ported?

[grim cove]

Everytime ? DD: Those guys are sure greedy !!

[vale patrol]

Brother

Read the announcement

[jaunty junco]

Or you can kill them and sell their gear lol

[half bone]

I forgor 💀. I didn't play SoC for a couple of months.

[grim cove]

How to sell? If through trades, then I haven't noticed how to add/ask for money

[fresh niche]

I have lmao but it says nothing on mod sizes that will be possible

[half bone]

You have the wiki, you can find your precious dialogue there.

[sand fiber]

Retextures only, nothing will nor can be ported

[vale patrol]

It literally does you have to actually click the link and read it

[solid cosmos]

There's a lot of limitations so far. No big mods as of now. No script changes which make it difficult for a lot, but there's a re-animation mod and model port on prypiat right now so that's something.

[vale patrol]

It’s in the guide for what’s possible

[jaunty junco]

at the bottom of you talking with someone (example: Sidorovich) theres a trade icon on the bottom of the dialogue options

[paper dust]

Wiki doesn't have any NPC dialogue saying that Pripyat stadium is point of no return, either. I already checked.

[grim cove]

Yes, I'm aware of that, that's how I bought my first rifle to switch from the pistol !! >w<

[vale patrol]

It’s not retextures only UI is possible and model replacement and animations and sounds and videos

[celest blaze]

console folk are interesting lol i saw some complain saying the games dead without mods but i played the trilogy with only bug fixes and had a blast

[half bone]

I think it was an unique npc, but i forgor the dialogue

[sand fiber]

and it's still nothing

[celest blaze]

i wish stalker never went to console

[paper dust]

@pseudo rivet question: does SoC have any NPC dialogues stating that Pripyat stadium is a point of no return? so far I haven't found it

[sand fiber]

no it doesn't

[jaunty junco]

I enjoyed them a lot tbh, except for clear sky, but thats a skill issue

i ended up playing clear sky on PC

[vale patrol]

Wouldn’t say that’s nothing lmao. Any good quality mod in just one of each of those areas and that’s a game overhual

[celest blaze]

based

[vale patrol]

Lmao you can do the same with Skyrim and fallout

[paper dust]

That's what I assumed as well. Since I read many dialogues but that fact wasn't mentioned in any of them

[vale patrol]

This one’s just more limited in regards to additions

[sand fiber]

minor graphical changes =/= game overhaul

[vale patrol]

See you keep graphics only lmao

[ripe hinge]

I am scared of women

[sand fiber]

boo

[vale patrol]

It’s models, textures and animations and UI and sound and video

[paper dust]

I assume they are scared of you too

[vale patrol]

That’s not just graphics 😭

[sand fiber]

so, still graphics

[grim cove]

Skill issue ?

[vale patrol]

How is animations graphics

[celest blaze]

only mods you need are ZRP , SRP and the CoP version

[vale patrol]

You can straight up reanimate every thing in the game to modern animations

And then add new sounds done

Then new character models and textures ect

[ripe hinge]

Im only not scared of Abbey

[vale patrol]

And then change the UI to something more modern

How tf is that just graphics 💀

[solid cosmos]

I think we give it a few months to see what is done. Slowly the list is being populated. I'm not as dissappointed in this as some seem to be since I guess I understood exactly what it would be when they announced it and announced it was using Mod.io. No engine tweaks was always a given, just didn't know how deep that would go.

[vale patrol]

Facts

[sand fiber]

most of this is graphical, and, well, it would still be just a re-skin of the game

[vale patrol]

We will see though mfers pretty much pushed the limit on what’s possible for fallout and Skyrim I think people can prob find a way to do the same

[vale patrol]

That’s all good lmao no one’s asking for a full conversion on console

But that’s def more than a reskin having the whole shit overhualed other than textures

[solid cosmos]

On xbox they have more freedom, but there's still some good mods on ps versions of fallout 4 and skyrim. They did push the limitations as much as they could.

[hazy helm]

Cosmetic

[vale patrol]

And even still that can get pushed as well just depsdna on what people deicide to make

[sand fiber]

i'm really not sure why you're so optimistic about a dumbed down modding capability that only allows for changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed

[celest blaze]

to bad sony is scared to death of getting hacked for the 9th or 10th time lol

[solid cosmos]

I mean that happens even without modding lol.

[vale patrol]

Not necessarily optimistic lmao but I’ve been in the modding Sven for console games awhile and know shit can be pushed

[hazy helm]

There are quite a few restrictions on it and it's not as if ppl will be able to lift them unless you count jailbreaking the console and reverse engeniering the way SLuTZ works

[celest blaze]

xbox allows alot more modding then sony ever could

but my honest opinion is just get a pc if you want mods

[vale patrol]

And also as well it’s not optimizim when all I’m saying is what’s possible

All I’m saying is it’s more than just graphics and depending on what people make

It can be a lot better than that just depends on if someone will take the time to do it

[sand fiber]

and in this case it can't, changing textures and animations doesn't matter, it's nothing, reskins, as i said

[hazy helm]

It's more so that even The things they allow they're very particular about in a strange

Way

[solid cosmos]

No, but already there's a weapon model change and re-animation on Prypiat for the Ak74 and 74u. Weapon packs are still something that can be utilized, they just have to retool existing models to make them. I imagine that would mean also use the weapons damage profiles and things as well, but I think new weapons will be possible. Just have to see what people can do. We've had the SDK for about 24 hours now. Need more time to see what people can push the limits of.

[vale patrol]

That’s true indeed

[vale patrol]

And that’s literally anomaly

[sand fiber]

???

[vale patrol]

The only thing missing is a custom world and game mechanics

[celest blaze]

anomaly isnt just a reskin

console will never have anything close to anomaly ( custom standalone engine)

[vale patrol]

Pretty much if you look at the radio phobia modpack it’s anomaly but the base games

[hazy helm]

You cannot add weapons and it's very strange why they decided to limit how you add animations because as it stands you can only really add animations that are the same timing as the originals

Which is strange

[vale patrol]

That’s what I would see Kuley as far as console going

[sand fiber]

anomaly is so far from original stalker that there might not be a single SoC line of code left

[hazy helm]

Not giving you access to config files is, weird, for any kind of modding

[sand fiber]

what are you on about

[vale patrol]

Not what I’m saying in that regard

[celest blaze]

fr its kinda weird

[vale patrol]

What I’m saying is anomaly is custom weapon models reanimated face lifted textures with the levels combined and mechanisms altered with new models and properties getting animations added to them as well like the pda for example being taken out on screen

Obviously due to capability minus the mechanics and custom models and additions. Anything possible in anomaly is possible with what’s allowed

[celest blaze]

anomaly is alot more then that

[vale patrol]

Not fkn really lmao

[solid cosmos]

They limited it probably cause of the inclusion of mods on sony platforms. It's the rules of dealing with sony. Idk why it was limited on xbox in the same manner since xbox doesn't care about using external assets. No real proof of that, but it's what happened with fallout 4 and Skyrim as well. Limited to internal assets while xbox allowed external assets. I agree it is strange and I do hope that they roll back some decisions on that at least for the xbox side, but I am still excited to see how people push the limitations that they do have.

[vale patrol]

If your talking about adding your own mods on top of anomaly yeah sure

[sand fiber]

this is honestly delusional, Anomaly adds things, utilizes new scripts and configs, changes the engine to fit its purposes, and nothing like that is allowed for console modding

[solid cosmos]

If I want to balls to the walls mod the crap out of the trilogy, I'll just boot it up on my pc lol.

[celest blaze]

anomaly is a custom fork of 64 bit engine aswell

[vale patrol]

Yes it does

[solid cosmos]

For me it's refreshing after so many years to go back and play these games vanilla.

[vale patrol]

Adds scripts to change weapon and damage values

[celest blaze]

i really like the vanilla games tbh

[hazy helm]

My point is the restriction really drops any possibility of modern animations has these change the timings

[vale patrol]

Gameplay mechanics to redo eating smelling stamina and ect

Multipliers, Ini changes

[celest blaze]

console will never have anything close to anomaly

[sand fiber]

if you mod SoC with AnomalyTM textures, UI and sounds it won't be "Like Anomaly", it will be an Anomaly-themed SoC reskin

[vale patrol]

You are missing my point

[solid cosmos]

You just have Lurk 1.2

[hazy helm]

Sure if you want a bad time

[solid cosmos]

I mean...

[paper dust]

I support your suggestion about game warning people about point of no return @gaunt burrow

[celest blaze]

i get what you are saying its just more complex is all

[vale patrol]

If you modded Soc to updated textures, redid the models and animations for npcs and player character, weapons, added modern updates sounds, changed the UI, all that minus the new mechanics and scripted model animation anomaly adds

[solid cosmos]

hrm.. where is this stash in jupiter plant in vanilla call of prypiat..

[paper dust]

thanks for suggesting that, by the way. I agree with it.

[vale patrol]

That’s pretty much possible on console

[vale patrol]

See I understand that but not just the base anomaly

If your talking about adding mods to it then yeah I agree

But the base anomaly ain’t all too much as far as capability. If stalker console literally got the same capabilities as fallout or Skyrim you could make anomaly

[sand fiber]

yes, all of this and it's just a reskin of the base game

[vale patrol]

This is just limited asf

[sand fiber]

you know nothing about modding stalker 😭

[vale patrol]

That’s my point.

Anomaly is all levels combined with factions and new story lines

This is obvs not possible with the restrictions

If you have ever played the radio phobia modpack you would know exactly what I’m talking about

[vale patrol]

Just cause you ain’t underiwhat I’m saying doesn’t mean I don’t know how to mod a video game 😭

It’s not fkn rocket science lmao

Not in the damn slightest

[solid cosmos]

Ah I found it, it was under some of the electrical equipment.

[hazy helm]

I played radio 2, it sucked

par for the course for any Misery inspired mod

[vale patrol]

Yeah radio 2 was ass lmao

Love radio 3 tho he did a way better job with it

[hazy helm]

the only Misery inspired mod that was good was AA2.1 because it was based in Misery 1 not Misery 2

[vale patrol]

Think it was more a trial and error for em

[vale patrol]

Radio 3 is amazing tho what lmao

So many people like it

Me fkn included anomaly but base story

Only downside is obviously the base game story = base levels

That’s where it falls short isle compared to anomaly, unless your a person who loves the base levels regardless

I just hope the people going into stalker 2 understand it’s not boutta be anomaly 2

I feel like with all they hyoe that had surrounded anomaly and the players it brought in they might get the wrong idea thinking that’s how stalker 2 will be

Granted it very well could be close only time will tell, about 70 days away about

[hazy helm]

so many ppl like anomaly, it aint good tho

[vale patrol]

You don’t like anomaly?

[dapper finch]

You already told us you don't like freeplay lol

[hazy helm]

I think it does a shit job at integrating and pushing the player towards any kind of true survival or hard mechanics

it has bad balancing with a very barren overall set of things to do

[vale patrol]

Agreed that what gammas for

[hazy helm]

GAMMA is not Anomaly tho, it is GAMMA, and Im talking about Anomaly

[celest blaze]

gamma isnt bad but gamma isnt true stalker

[dapper finch]

I use Anomaly as a substitute for CoC because CoC is dead - as a modding platform. I don't like vanilla Anomaly.

[sand fiber]

changing a bunch of textures isn't modding 😭😭

[hazy helm]

no mod is true stalker, they are a mod, and that mods individuality as a thing should be protected

[celest blaze]

GSC never made anything close to gamma

[vale patrol]

Jesus Christ I already explained everything and your still on about that shit

[celest blaze]

i agree

[vale patrol]

God man 😂

[sand fiber]

except OLR, of course

[celest blaze]

i like the mods but they fun little side things

[paper dust]

people should play whatever they want to play

[vale patrol]

Any change to a base game that requires you download and change it is missing lmao 😭😭

And it not just textures that can be changed for the 100th time lmao

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[celest blaze]

aslong as people play the trilogy i support folks playing any mod

[hazy helm]

I never said you couldnt play shit man

[paper dust]

agree. trilogy first.

[vale patrol]

Wether you wanna kept saying that or not if gaf anymore

[paper dust]

after trilogy I should try some mods as well.

[hazy helm]

Id say AA2.1 and Prosectors Project are probably, the best for hardcore SoC

[solid cosmos]

I am not a fan of Anomaly, not married to it like others seem to be. I like coc though, it feels far closer to Vanilla to me and I enjoy it far more cause it lacks all that artificial difficulty crap. I've played the trilogy over and over and beaten them multiple times, played story mods and so such and now I just kinda vibe and have fun exploring the zone.

[vale patrol]

Ive heard PP is good

[dim topaz]

That's not a popular sentiment around here

[solid cosmos]

I managed to tweak Gamma in such a way that I actually can have fun with it, but I find myself returning to Cotz more lol

[vale patrol]

Yet to try it though but have heard great things

[paper dust]

CoC

[hazy helm]

its really well balanced actually, the AI is amazing

[solid cosmos]

or Doom's mod merge for shadow of chernobyl.

[paper dust]

my dirty mind is thinking about something else.

[dapper finch]

I guess we're fun police Duty

[vale patrol]

I def need to give that a shot then

[hazy helm]

noooooo, people have opinions about shit, what will I DO!!!!

grow up

tell ppl to fuck off

[vale patrol]

Gotta love when the ai knows how to ghost peak you 😂

Man stalker AI be the smartest mfers sometimes lmao

[dapper finch]

You might have a better time building your own modlist for Anomaly.

[celest blaze]

i wish i could figure out why COTZ is so dark its to much

[dapper finch]

Gamma is quite... specific

[hazy helm]

AI has special scripts to respond to specific situations, they are smart enuff to distinguish which type of mutant they are fighting, for example, if they are fighhting a zombie instead of shooting they will strafe and knife him repeatedly

[solid cosmos]

Probably, I just don't have the time r/n! I do have a good modlist built up for CotZ though.

[dapper finch]

Any recommendations?

[vale patrol]

This is PP we talking about? 🗿

[hazy helm]

yes, Prosectors Project

[vale patrol]

I’m boutta download that mfer rn wtf lmao

[hazy helm]

this is one of their abilities

[solid cosmos]

Rhon's repack as a base with a few minor things added ontop like fixing the fast travel stuff.

[vale patrol]

I need to see this Hol up

I’ll pull up a yt vid rq for the link of this shit

[hazy helm]

I had a video stashed somewhere

[vale patrol]

Oh bet if you find it link it I’ll take a look

Ima try to download this rq

Screw console for a while I guess

[paper dust]

Guys wish me luck. I'm entering Pripyat stadium (this time with a lot of bandages, medkits, antirad meds, vintar that has perfect condition, exoskeleton and tons of 9x39 ammo)

[dapper finch]

Woo not super hardcore. I remember a time where you'd be shot for speaking of such things

[spring apex]

atmosfear stuff. try increasing gamma

[vale patrol]

Good hunting stalker

[paper dust]

I got the decoder btw

[solid cosmos]

I hated misery so anything that gets me away from that is fine by my book lmao

[paper dust]

so I'll get the good ending.

[celest blaze]

thank you cuz yeah in the day its fine but any shadow is like a black hole

[solid cosmos]

That's my thing with anomaly and even further with Gamma is that it is everything I hated about Misery cranked up to 11

on top of call of chernobyl, which I enjoy as a base

[hazy helm]

wraning you there is a free exosqueleton inside the Sarcofagus
if yours is tattered, search for it

[hazy helm]

they do this

[paper dust]

Noted. thanks for the tip.

[dapper finch]

Which is why I don't like vanilla Anomaly, but you can pretty easily make it play more like CoC. Except in 64 bit with 3d animations.

[celest blaze]

i play with gamma/efp but i honestly prefer COTZ/COC

[vale patrol]

My fault I’m back

[vale patrol]

God damn lmao why they giving you the one piece 💀😭😭

[glass lintel]

Hey everybody, new here and bought the legends of the zone trilogy for Xbox One. None of them start up at all and crash when I attempt to load them up. I haven’t even been able to make it to the menu. Can anyone offer any help

[solid cosmos]

But I mean more power to people who can enjoy those mods for what they are. I just never clicked with that. It wasn't what Stalker was to me, god the games were hard enough as it was, I didn't need extra added stupidity on top of it lol

[vale patrol]

Unsubscribe to all the mods aka I download them

Open the game back up and make sure they are gone

[solid cosmos]

He's talking about the game itself, not mods I think..

[vale patrol]

Then clear your cache data for whatever game your modding

[glass lintel]

No i don’t have any mods at all. I bought it yesterday and since then I haven’t been able to get into the game

[solid cosmos]

Try clearing your cache and seeing if that helps.

[glass lintel]

I’m not modding it

[vale patrol]

Ohhhhh

[glass lintel]

Tried that unfortunately. Allllll the Xbox troubleshooting methods

[vale patrol]

Yeah just clear the cache then and hard restart

Ohhh hmmm

[glass lintel]

And reinstalling ig I’ll try again tho

[solid cosmos]

I'm on series X and have no issues, so I can't really say one way or another for regular xbox one.

[glass lintel]

Searched up the issue and it’s only me who suffers from it 😢

[vale patrol]

Sorry to hear Brodie but yeah I’m not sure what that issue is

[solid cosmos]

Put in a bug report perhaps here on #1215013259740979320 maybe? Or see if someone else has had the issues

[spring apex]

is there any error messages?

[vale patrol]

^

Is it just black screening you and crashing

Or is it saying an error

[dapper finch]

Took me this long to realise it's now called Call of Prypiat, didn't notice.

[glass lintel]

No that’s the weirdest thing

[glass lintel]

Yeah that’s it. I’m now doing a reset + keep games and apps hopefully that’ll kick my Xbox into gear

[vale patrol]

Oh okay

It also could be an old gen issue as well I’m not sure

[glass lintel]

That’s what I was thinking

[hazy helm]

!warn 1222559256436281403 english only in english channels

[nimble cipher]

quatrevigntdixneuf_ has been warned

Reason: english only in english channels

[jaunty junco]

I had a similar issue once and redownloading seemed to work

[vale patrol]

New announcement

Well media

[solid cosmos]

They can;t keep doing this to us!!!

[vale patrol]

What?

[solid cosmos]

Making announcements and media posts that aren't stalker 2

It's killing me!

[glass lintel]

I’ve reinstalled multiple times I JUST WANT TO PLAY STALKA

[pearl olive]

they clearly don't want my $$ my phsycal edition of S2 is turning into a new a new office chair for the PC

[vale patrol]

Oh lmao

[vivid magnet]

yeah im checking my email every day to see if i get a notification that its available

been waiting for 2 years to get the ultimate physical edition

[solid cosmos]

And you've power cycled your console too?

[glass lintel]

Yeah multiple times

Just did a reset I’ll see if it works now

[solid cosmos]

Best of luck, dude.

[paper dust]

what's the deal with Monolith? how come they have so much good weapons and armor?

[solid cosmos]

The Monolith provides for those who are loyal.

[vivid magnet]

theyre cooking meth out there for sure

[paper dust]

Duty I can understand at least since Red Forest stash called Package for Duty implies that military gives them equipment.

and description of their PSZ-9d Duty Armor mentions that it's produced by one of Kiev's defence research institutes and that it's commissioned by the Duty faction.

[celest blaze]

Praise the monolith

Hopefully stalker 2 will explore the monolith more

[paper dust]

How do Monolith members even maintain so much equipment anyways?

[celest goblet]

Well it seems they are a central component of the story, at least former monolith

[celest blaze]

They are a huge force

[paper dust]

Logically speaking, maintaining high end equipment that Monolith has (weapons, armors, infrastructure) is a money drain.

[glass lintel]

YESSS ITS WORKIKG DUDE FINALLY

[vivid magnet]

i wish we see some of clear sky

[glass lintel]

IVE BEEN TRYING SINCE YESTERDAY

[paper dust]

And sure, they can source some of that off of their victims, but their spending would go into hundreds of thousands, if not millions of roubles. It's virtually impossible to sustain such a large operation with just what the Zone itself provides.

[vivid magnet]

must be the illuminati

[wet lark]

I think a lot of that is a problem specifically for this community lmao

I love this community but I swear to God a lot of the people here got some serious socially defunct kind of autism

[cobalt phoenix]

poopy