⭐┃nospoilers_general

[ornate rampart]

ikr, the only thing that could top this off is if GSC made a remaster of the trilogy for pc as well in the unreal engine as they are doing for S2

[solid dome]

Me lacks motivation to play games as well, would love a person to preach to me some motivation

[ornate rampart]

do it, I honestly wish I could forget what I know about the games and went through them once again

[solid dome]

You say I should dew it?

I'm kinda waiting for The Witcher 3 mod tools to come out so I can play around with them for experimentation purposes

[ornate rampart]

well, you still have time until september to play them if you want to prioritize other games

I didn't strictly focus on the main quests for any of the 3, so I have around 100h in each because I spent some time just farming resources, hoarding weapons looted etc

[solid dome]

Right hand to God

Won't be able to choose whether I want to play or mod STALKER 2 if it also has the promised modding capabilities

Would be the hardest decision I have to make in the history of videogames for me

[ornate rampart]

I'd say play it first, but that's just me

modding can get fun once you know how the game is

[naive quest]

we need virgil to be motivated

[solid dome]

But what if you can literally make STALKER 3 within STALKER 2

[naive quest]

so play all the games then start modding?

[ornate rampart]

if you start doing it right away it feels like missing out

yeah, at least play them vanilla once

[naive quest]

alr

[ornate rampart]

with the ZRP/SRP/CRP patches if you want

[solid dome]

I want to say I meant STALKER 2, not 1

I lack time and brain capacity to mod STALKER 1

[ornate rampart]

yeah I was replying to Jett

and for you I really meant just play S2 first

[hazy helm]

Shadow of Chernobyl then Clear Sky then Call of Pripyat

[ornate rampart]

because once you know the story I don't think you can easily forget it unless you get a bonk on your head and have amnesia

[solid dome]

I dont remember much besides the major parts of the story

[naive quest]

glad i installed the right one first lmao

[solid dome]

I have an idea

[ornate rampart]

I kinda remember almost all of SoC, half of CS and right now I'd say half of CoP despite I just finished it

[solid dome]

Long thought about it before I completely forgor

We should start hosting MP matches for any of the trilogy and play for fun when we're super bored

With the right people comes proper fun

[ornate rampart]

never tried it out, what are you supposed to do, kill each others?

[solid dome]

Couple modes to run thru

Basic TDM > 2 teams versus each other, FFA > survival of the fittest, Artifact Hunt, 2 teams fight to capture artifacts, similar to how King of the Hill works but with a twist

Also we have coop for SoC, still in the works but really playable

I think its playable till Rostok, so Cordon, Garbage, Dark Valley, Agroprom

[sand fiber]

stalker modding is different from fallout's, it's focused on total conversion more than anything

[solid dome]

@sand fiber Howdy at your end

[sand fiber]

wha

[solid dome]

How do you do I mean

What are you doing rn

[sand fiber]

playing sekiro and arguing with people about souls games

everyday activities in other words

[hidden stratus]

Elden Ring war my first souls game i was able to finish

And for someone who usually doesnt touch games like that it was so good

[sand fiber]

real elden baby hours

[hidden stratus]

no clue what you mean by that

[solid dome]

@sand fiber Tried Dogma 2?

[sand fiber]

nope, don't have the required specs

and honestly doesn't look that interesting

[solid dome]

How old is your hardware?

Given you cant run Dogma 2, you won't be able to run STALKER 2 either, why....

You one of those people who are like "If it works still and serves me well, why upgrade", no?

I once had such mindset though cant remember for sure what forced me to buy a new PC entirely (old one isnt compatile for upgrade whatsoever)

[sand fiber]

RX580/R5 3600

not too bad, but Dogma 2 is unoptimized

[sand fiber]

i would update, but not like i have the money

[normal tiger]

I've been wondering why GSC isn't letting folks like IGN play and preview it, for a very very long time now.

It's one thing for them to have announcements and trailers during big showcases like Gamescom, but it's absurd that no one's actually gotten to play it freely and write about it.

If we don't actually hear about publications getting their hands on preview material soon, I'm going to ship the 2025 delay announcement. lol

[placid slate]

fr i though they would at least let ppl play the demo months before the official release but no :/

[hidden stratus]

DD2 is great. A unique game amongst recent releases. New to the series so I went in knowing nothing. Runs like SHIT but is very fun. No free-roam after you're done with the story though.

Def worth a try 5 years from now when it is finally optimized

[analog kite]

I'm somewhat certain if GDC tries making any online stalker it would be disastrous over the sole fact griefers would be camping and destroying the gameplay

I mean stalcraft despite being a blocky mess is a good example )

[pearl jacinth]

the original trilogy still continues to have an active mutliplayer pvp playerbase, and they are planning pvp for stalker 2

when shadow of chernobyl first released, a large amount of middle-aged, eastern european men spawned with one goal in mind; play the multiplayer

[solid dome]

Same CPU I have

[versed crypt]

Half the time I look on this channel it's just paragraphs replying to paragraphs

[raven grove]

Cheeki breeki

[versed crypt]

Real

I back this statement

[raven grove]

It's all cheeki breeki until a bloodsucker breekis your cheeki

[versed crypt]

Got too cheeki with the breeki

Yeah, I'm bored STOCgang

What do?

[granite mortar]

Play Goldsphere

[pearl jacinth]

we are having quite excellent discussions

[versed crypt]

Noope

[polar orchid]

It cannot be delayed to 2025. I refuse to wait that long. I REFUSE! I will start a one man riot in my living room.

[pearl jacinth]

if the game gets delayed to 2025 i will continue sitting at my computer and doing nothing

riot!!!

[polar orchid]

It needs to be released before GTA6 or it will lose a lot of attention it could have gotten

Once GTA6 releases, there are no other games, nothing else exists for about a year

Personally I dont care much about GTA but to release a game in the same year as GTA6 is not a good move lol

[hidden stratus]

If this game gets delayed to 2025 it will probably be too late for steam to give me a refund

[pearl jacinth]

no matter how long ago you preordered a game, steam will give refunds if u end up not liking it

[hidden stratus]

I thought after two months you dont get a full refund

[pearl jacinth]

valve is the same company that rma's controllers of theirs that our out of warrenty at times ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wouldnt surprise me if they let you get a full refund

[hidden stratus]

Doubt it, honestly it doesnt matter. I used a different currency to buy it cheaper

They call it, the argentinan method. Originated during the fortnite days

[granite mortar]

Why not?

[versed crypt]

Because

[granite mortar]

Why? 😭

Its a good mod

I would never shill over a bad mod

[pearl jacinth]

well i would

[granite mortar]

Hell yeah

[pearl jacinth]

[versed crypt]

Because

[granite mortar]

[versed crypt]

It's the obvious answer from you😔

I'd of not asked if I'd to play it anyway

I'd of just done

[strong prairie]

Хеллов піплі

[sly viper]

Doesn't have to be Netflix
The fan movies are very cool and I want stalker to get in full cinematic format or length if possible

Even decentralized episodes of the adventures individual loners/ bandits / faction groups would be interesting

[polar orchid]

that still exists? they kicked me off that back to from whence i came lol

[hidden stratus]

We are clearly speaking of different things

[polar orchid]

AAA games are fairly priced in argentina

well, most of them

even steam sales for me now are way higher priced than a full priced argentina copy lol

stalker the only game i plan on paying for. i wont pay for games at these crazy prices

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

Cheers m8

[unreal cargo]

"This ain't your grandma's zone (insert pda sound effect,) only cordon can pull out these cords (background scream with gunshots) Did anyone say freedom? Cause we have a duty to drop these monolithic beats. "Marked One what the he-" *cuts to gunshot and explosion

[finite dragon]

If you are positive about the mod, Wouldn't Anomaly and Lost Alpha also deserve canonical history?

[amber tendon]

what

[finite dragon]

I am interested in Lost Alpha, Misery and Anomaly mod.

[amber tendon]

yea and what was the question again

[finite dragon]

I think it's more of a question, especially since I think Lost Alpha and Anomaly also follow Trilogy's canonical history.
It is a simple thought.

[amber tendon]

no I mean can you elaborate what you meant by this

[finite dragon]

All I can say is that I am interested in the mod.

Got that thang on me (I have a beeping thing that measures my blood pressure for 24 hours)

[amber tendon]

did renegade faction give you untreatable condition which sent you to ER?

(also hope you get better)

[finite dragon]

Thats what were about to find out

I wish Trilogy had followers who did not die.
Why are they all so weak... they die so quickly...

[finite dragon]

Ohno dw im not sick, it's part of a General checkup.
So far, the only issue we found is me eating too much fat (but Fries :<<<)

Also its not a stationary machine, its a little pocket thingie on a belt

[amber tendon]

oh yea salt is a b1tch, it slows your blood circulation

[finite dragon]

Ye

Despite the capture of all Renegades bases, the resources and armed forces were not reduced at all.
I don't know if this is normal, but I am no longer enjoying the bug and CS.
If you think about it, STALKER is an old game, so even though it is not perfect, there's no small bias against stoker trilogies.

[fast stratus]

hi

[finite dragon]

Hai

[fast stratus]

whats up

[finite dragon]

Am just chillin

[amber tendon]

what are you having with side of fries out of curiosity

[fast stratus]

nice

[amber tendon]

don't say beans

[finite dragon]

Whatever I find

[finite dragon]

(Except that)

[amber tendon]

thank you

faith in humanity restored

[hazy helm]

???
What?

[amber tendon]

he's using google translator

[hazy helm]

Faction wars doesn't end
It's not binary
Forces will try to retake lost based and get a foothold

[finite dragon]

I think the locations used for Lost Alpha and Anomaly will also follow the trilogy's canonical history.
I am interested in seeing Japanese players of this mod.

[gaunt burrow]

Idea of faction war was very good, but it was badly implemented

[finite dragon]

It would have been nice if the faction wars were like Far Cry series.

[gaunt burrow]

I don't even bother joining factions. After leaving Swamps I just remain a merc

[hazy helm]

Have you actually played the stories of any of these mods?

[half bone]

i played the whole game as a merc

[gaunt burrow]

Same

Only faction you are actually forced to join is Clear Sky due to plot

[half bone]

the locations in anomaly are slightly modified with more vegetation, different terrain textures and that's probably all

[loud gate]

Father Valerian isn't proud.

[half bone]

some like the swamps have been reworked using the same terrain

[gaunt burrow]

[hazy helm]

Meadow is a piece of shit map that should t even be in anomaly but,besides the point

[polar orchid]

im really struggling to go on with soc

[loud gate]

@gaunt burrow Rememeber Gaffer from S2?

[hazy helm]

There are better maps in other mods

[half bone]

it's so poorly made, I even inspired someone to make a terrain mask fix for it

[gaunt burrow]

What about him?

[loud gate]

His name in the Ukrainian localisation means "Father", and the term is actually used to refer to someone who is respected.

[half bone]

No idea why did they include that unfinished map

[loud gate]

You'll see my theory about him being Valerian 2.0

Also, the lore-accurate description of Gaffer is cool guy as Mol1t told me

[finite dragon]

Of course.
So vanilla is sometimes inconvenient.

[hazy helm]

I'd try to come up with a reason but it astounds me they even went thru the trouble

[amber tendon]

how is it inconvenient

[gaunt burrow]

Nice

[half bone]

It's most likely going to be finished in 1.6

atm, i'm waiting for the new sdk from openxray which should have reworked lightmaps

[hazy helm]

Anomaly is a cavalcade of horrible themes and rehashes to try and make you soyjack to stalker ans let's just say that the community and age has not been kind to Lost Alpha
They are not cannon,neither are they lore friendly
As for maps,Anomaly maps aren't very different,I would recommend trying other mods but if your Japanese I am sorry

I'd try to fix something for JP with ChGPT but I don't understand JP

it'd be of awful quality

But LA maps wouldnt fit stalker,too big

Despite my love for them

[half bone]

I can port them but I don't want to

[hazy helm]

😭 great metal factory....

I should start map making

[finite dragon]

Mostly because of a bug, some sort of application error that is not present in the PC version.

[loud gate]

vASEEEEM

Hav u started olr yet?

[half bone]

Don't do it for anomaly though, it's harder

[hazy helm]

I am waiting
But I'll prob play 3.0 in Rus

[hazy helm]

Nha,either CS or SoC

[loud gate]

Waiting for?

[hazy helm]

Best Stalker

[half bone]

If you are interested I can share you my sources that I used. Most of my SDK level editing knowledge was self-taught

[hazy helm]

Nha

[hazy helm]

All I lack is general learning sources and time,but thanks all the same

[finite dragon]

Anomaly and Misery are fully available in Japanese.

[half bone]

You can search "stalker sdk" in youtube and you will find tutorials

[hazy helm]

Yhea just a shame that you don't have any good mods in Japanese
Maybe I will try to translate SMTH like RTTZ without doing a once over just to make a check up

I mean

Shit TL is better than no TL

[amber tendon]

I am having difficulties understanding what you are talking about, at first you were talking about how mods should be considered canon, then you are saying that original games have bugged main quest and now you are talking about maps

[finite dragon]

In Japanese, anomaly is more famous than vanilla. It's surprisingly interesting and highly rated.

[hazy helm]

That is p terrifying and just goes to show how starved for actually good mods the Japanese players are
Anomaly is god awful lmao

They don't have Stasons CoC or CoTZ 😭

[amber tendon]

anomaly and vanilla are 2 different things

[half bone]

And if you're having problems, you can tell me since I pretty much know everything about the SDK

[finite dragon]

In short, I thought Lost Alpha and Anomaly deserved a canon equivalent to vanilla.
Don't worry too much about other things.

[hazy helm]

What do you mean cannon equivalent?

[hazy helm]

I'm more so focused on engine modifications at the moment tbh,along with other projects

[amber tendon]

he means he wants a good story line with survival features of anomaly

[hazy helm]

Ew

[amber tendon]

Eh

[hazy helm]

These mf need NLC7

[half bone]

If you ever do want to start mapping, just keep in mind that it's hardware intensive

even in low quality (draft compiling takes little time).

[hazy helm]

I have a good PC so I'm not really preoccupied
A Ryzen 5 3600 with 32gigs of ram should be enuff for anything stalker

[half bone]

The compiler is mainly CPU based. You still have a cpu way better than mine xd

[hazy helm]

I don't expect to have any problems at the very least

[half bone]

I think that the upcoming sdk from openxray will be gpu based but I doubt

I'm interested in the new lightmaps which will insanely improve map quality.

[hazy helm]

I wanna see more AI spot capacity
Don't know the name rn

even in the worst conditions a good map shines thru but lack of AI is a big problem

Case on point,Calm after the Storm

[finite dragon]

I think I'll find solace by looking at the beautiful the Great Swamps.

[half bone]

AI grid?

[finite dragon]

hello and bye.

[half bone]

You can add more smart terrains, if you want maps to be more dynamic

[hazy helm]

yhea,that,it was lowered in CoP and even in CS I think you could get away with it being higher than the normal cap,if you make some engine modifications

I remember the number of points being capped due to the nature of a 32bit system

smth like that?

[half bone]

Max ai grid is about 1.3km in all directions

Openxray supports for larger ai grids up to 8 million nodes

Smart terrains can be fps intensive if there's a lot of them

[fast stratus]

Can we have open world multiplayer

[half bone]

There are no mods that have open world mp

i'm not counting dayz or something similar

[hazy helm]

a DayZ like mode wont be a thing in Stalker 2 neither will Coop

[fast stratus]

Oh no

[half bone]

There is multiplayer in vanilla, but only dm, tdm, ah and cta

There are mp mods but they aren't open world yet.

[polar orchid]

it really should be

[hazy helm]

it should be like the OGs but with a progression system,yes,I agree

[polar orchid]

64 sq km post apocalytic map would be perfect for multiplayer day-z or tarkov like experience

would 10x my playtime

[finite dragon]

Hey guys

[polar orchid]

hi

[hazy helm]

good thing the devs decided NOT to do that huh

[polar orchid]

no

why are you so happy to have less? lol

...
i'm really struggling to enjoy SoC rn. the stalker games seem better in my head than they actually are in reality.

there doesn't feel like much reward to anything. just walking back and forth. all enemies have the same kinda loot.

[hazy helm]

wdym less?
Im happy that the developers havent thrown a heavy focus on multiplayer and I am hopeful that we will get a redo of the original games multiplayer,which I like

DayZ is shit

[polar orchid]

you want A+B and think its great that nobody should get C just because you dont want it

[hazy helm]

do you realise the ammount of time,cash and talent that is put into making a massively multiplayer online game like DayZ?do you not realize how this would affect the main focus of the game?
and now tahtt you saoid it,no,I dont want you specifically to get shit you want

[polar orchid]

its not like they need to make an entire game, just the multiplayer aspect.

the bulk of the work is done

[loud gate]

a MP aspect that would take tremendous amount of work to be done

Why bother when it's not your vision and MP isn't even the main focus of the game?

[hazy helm]

you have no idea

do you

damn,its like ppl think that you can just,shuck shit into a multiplayer framework and finish it up in a week

crazy

[loud gate]

It's that easy, no?

[polar orchid]

no need for crass statements. obviously it involves work

[half bone]

"Just add multiplayer"

[polar orchid]

but the map would already exist, the gameplay mechanics would already exist

[hazy helm]

sorry,from how you talking it seemed like you knew and were able to deploy a MMO in a week and have it run without massive monetary input

[polar orchid]

who said anything about a week

[hazy helm]

shit isnt easy

rosk

[half bone]

Bro some kid wanted to add gamma mp, a couple of weeks ago

💀

[loud gate]

And according to you that means it shouldn't be too hard to make a DAYZ-style game?

[hazy helm]

the map wouldnt be a straight port as you would need to refactor the entire map to contribute to PVP
the mechanics would need to be redone and rethought for MP
the implementations and optimizations would need to be changed
the staff in charge of such a project would need to be changed as MMOs need ppl who know how to make them

its not a port

its an entirely new project

[polar orchid]

i never said anything about the difficulty, i just said it would be great if it was there

its the perfect setting for that type of gameplay

[half bone]

didn't you say tarkov-like experience???

[hazy helm]

Stalker has always been about simulation and story focused gameplay
how would removing these factors from the game improve the stalker feel?

that is what I also dont understand

[polar orchid]

you dont need to remove anything

[hazy helm]

since DayZ is about aimlessly wandering around like a fool waiting for smth cool to happen

[finite dragon]

Всім привіт

[loud gate]

wrong chat.

[hazy helm]

#⭐┃обговорення-безспойлерів
good morning mate

[finite dragon]

Українці є??

[loud gate]

Yes there are Ukrainians

[polar orchid]

also stalker is nothing even close to a simulation experience. story also is very bland.

[half bone]

how?

[loud gate]

-1

[polar orchid]

imho its an atmospheric experience

[half bone]

imo, go play gamma

[loud gate]

Stalker is a story game. lmao.

[hazy helm]

the story of stalker is one of the pillars of the entire series as it is a story focused action adventure game
and the simulation aspect of the AI and world has always been a selling point since the marketing of the first game

I dont think you know what youre talking about

[polar orchid]

well the shooting is hitscan. the ai is clumsy

[hazy helm]

Stalker has always been a story first game with heavy world simulation focus in an arcade setting

[polar orchid]

no mag management, no body part healing

[hazy helm]

wtf are you talking about

[half bone]

It's not hitscan. Did you ever play the og games

[loud gate]

Have you ever played any Stalker game?

[hazy helm]

have you ever played one of the games robin

[half bone]

AI is buggy, because of the ai map grid

[polar orchid]

im re-playing soc right now. its just hitscan with bloom

[hazy helm]

it isnt???

wow

[loud gate]

It isn't.

[half bone]

It's not, the bullet speed is really high

[hazy helm]

I am looking at the files man,it aint

[polar orchid]

feels like hitscan

[half bone]

Because, it's insanely fast

[polar orchid]

theres no recoil even

[loud gate]

Can we really call it buggy, it's literally better than every game released today

[half bone]

It's an limitation from the ai system

if the ai map grid in a map isn't properly set up, it can be buggy and possibly break the game or level

[hazy helm]

you are talking out of your ass about things you dont understand rosk

OPA!

[loud gate]

Funny how much Roskobiwan can lie so much

[half bone]

The ai grid tells npcs where can they walk and where not, as well if they can go through that object or not

[hazy helm]

the AI Grid is like a NavMesh

[half bone]

yes.

literally the same thing, but you can manually edit it.

[loud gate]

mhm, okay. Thanks

[fast stratus]

hi stalkers

[polar orchid]

its not a simulation. magic mags. clumsy ai. if the bullets are calculated projectiles it doesnt feel like it

[hazy helm]

but you need to calculate and bake the Grid into the map every time a change is made

[hazy helm]

it is a simulation of ever NPC that is currently in the zone has the game featues Offline A-Life and online A-Life to simulate the paths stalkers take and what they do

[half bone]

Yes. The amount of time it takes depends on the grid size and complexity.

[hazy helm]

it is one of the biggest features of the A-Life

simulation of AI is what I said Rosk

[loud gate]

It is a simulation. A-Life is literlly described as a system simulating life in the Zone.

[hazy helm]

yhea its jsut a normal NavMesh,whats the system they use to choose what place is best to position themselves in?

[loud gate]

"A-Life 2.0 life-simulating system" - Description of S2's A-Life 2.0

[half bone]

ai map grids are outdated as hell. I think upcoming mods will replace it with something else but I doubt.

[polar orchid]

in my current playthrough there is a loner playing guitar around a campfire in the scrapyard where 2 of his friends are burning on top of the fire lol

[half bone]

It can be buggy once generated so you have to clean it up. Especially on trees, it can take an insane amount of time.

however, it's really stable on the terrain

[hazy helm]

I don't think anybody is clammouring for a complete replacement of a system that has been used for years now

[hazy helm]

I fail to see how this changes anything we said

[half bone]

I doubt, but someone will probably replace it.

[polar orchid]

its just funny

escape from tarkov has ruined me, it is also a very flawed game but the sense of purpose to everything you do stands out
you go looting in tarkov and there are hundreds of different items and they all have a purpose

the bullets are projectiles and it feels that way

the mag management adds immersion and can lead to stressful situations

[loud gate]

You have to stop comparing everything to Tarkov.

[half bone]

sdalger and tarkov are not the same thing

[loud gate]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. isn't Tarkov.

[polar orchid]

yeah but tarkov is clearly inspired by stalker

and imo is the perfect evolution of stalkers gameplay minus mutants

[loud gate]

fvck no

[hazy helm]

I fail to see any clear inspirations and Stalker is a complete opposite to Tarkov

Like I already stated

[loud gate]

Tarkov and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. don't have anything in common really

[hazy helm]

Stalker is a Action Adventure Story Focused SciFi game with Arcade Gunplay and RPG influences

[loud gate]

I struggle to find how Tarkov, an MP extraction mil-sim shooter is an evolution of a simulation story driven action-packed FPS.

[hazy helm]

Tarkov,is completely different

[half bone]

how?

[polar orchid]

you think stalker 2 will be arcadey?

[hazy helm]

It's like saying Arma is a clear progression of CoD

[hazy helm]

Yes did you see the trailers

[half bone]

bro go play gamma now

[polar orchid]

it wont run on my computer

[half bone]

you sound like one of them

[polar orchid]

to me tarkov is, in theory, the perfect shooter game

[hazy helm]

Sure man,doesn't mean every game needs to be like tarkov

[polar orchid]

and it is heavily inspired by stalker, i wouldnt expect any honest person to disagree with that

[loud gate]

I don't think, it will.

[loud gate]

Vasim, I think you're forgetting there was a Demo.

[hazy helm]

You keep saying this but haven't yet explained what you even mean,there is no surface inspiration in any of Tarkov to this

[loud gate]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-2024300603359468440

[hazy helm]

You pull it out of your ass

[half bone]

a game that inspired a modpack with the most ######## player base i've ever seen

[polar orchid]

well if stalker 2 is like a story driven tarkov i would enjoy that

tarkov with mutants

[loud gate]

It's not

[polar orchid]

stalker with more meaningful looting would help too. like im playing soc now and it just feels so dry and pointless

[loud gate]

killing isn't done to gather loot

[hazy helm]

From the talks we get,the things we see,and what we know of the inspiration it will stick to the originals which is a beacon of white light

[loud gate]

Vaseem, stop ignoring the Demo

[polar orchid]

then i look forward to mods that can make it more challenging and engageing... perhaps i will wait for a sale

[hazy helm]

Read again man

[loud gate]

Should have said the things we played

[half bone]

stalker 2 shouldn't release to be like gamma or like tarkov at all

it has to keep a balance with the old and new players.

[hazy helm]

Did you play it?I didn't,and I know sur as fuck rosk didn't

[loud gate]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is a game destined for fans of the original game.

[half bone]

adding tarkov elements will not keep the balance.

[loud gate]

Yeah, ofc not
But I know plenty of people who did, plently.

[hazy helm]

you only saw and heard tho,never played

[loud gate]

I never said we specifically played it

[polar orchid]

mag management would add so much to the horror feel. there has to be something to negate the OP of quicksaving all the time. like getting stuck in a situation with mags half packed and get overrun by mutants.

[hazy helm]

Mag management would add horror to when you realize you'll feel the absolute tedium of the system and logistics

Surely

[polar orchid]

the difficulty settings dont change much when you can just quicksave your way to victory

[hazy helm]

This is a skill issue

[loud gate]

Dude, it wouldn't.

[hazy helm]

You only quick save as much as you want rosk

[granite mortar]

No it would add to the tactical crap (gamma) feel

[hazy helm]

I would never expect someone to say quicksaves are bad in the year of the lord

[polar orchid]

if a game doesnt force challenges upon me i dont see a point in creating them for myself

[granite mortar]

They are bad
Manual saves are far superior

Maybe dont play the game

[half bone]

or maybe wait for mods like misery 3.0.0

[granite mortar]

Issue solved ;)

[granite mortar]

Misery Lost Remake 3.0?!

[half bone]

i pulled that out of my

[polar orchid]

i thought the fanbase of stalker was due to modding

[hazy helm]

I fail to see how what you say creates worthy challenges you seem to think that normalizing everything thru a Tarkov soup will make it better thru hardship when it will just make it tedium

[granite mortar]

Due to modding in line with the OGs. Not in line with modern tacticool fps games

[half bone]

western mods*

[hazy helm]

There are many kinds of hard games man

Play NLC7 some time

[granite mortar]

Yes, all two of them

[hazy helm]

Experience what true hardness is

[half bone]

y'all need to play eastern mods, not these sheetpacks

[granite mortar]

Real

[hazy helm]

I know of 2 french mods
One looks cool,none of these is gamma btw

[polar orchid]

i just like realism

arcadey games feel like they are for kids

[granite mortar]

Spatial Anomaly, RTTZ, Wind of Rime, Secrets of Cordon...
Those are good mods, not you average western tacticool tarkov slop

[half bone]

some are okay, but bro literally every western mod is about realism and iMeRsSiOn

gamma = fake stalker with fake atmosphere with a braindead fanbase

[loud gate]

Ok, but S.T.A.L.K.E.R. isn't that, soo

[granite mortar]

Can we all just agree that Grok is just a cheap copy of Demosfen?

[half bone]

and likely the first modpack that they ever played

grok is a french demosfen

[hazy helm]

Stalker is just the stalker games
Every mod that isn't stalker is not stalker BC it is it's own being

[hazy helm]

Calling grok the European Alfa ModMaker

I don't think he has Demosfens talent for modeling

[granite mortar]

But bro, True Stalker is truly a Stalker, its true to the premise of stalker

[hazy helm]

Like say what you will,not bad face models

[polar orchid]

dont understand the tarkov hate, i feel like im talking to bots rn

[half bone]

wanted to call him a tomygd variant, but sadly he doesn't brag about trees

[hazy helm]

I don't understand the Tarkov dickriding
I feel like I'm taking to bots rn

[granite mortar]

I mean, Demosfen creates from stolen stuff. Grok just steals

[polar orchid]

its a more modern game, a representation of what games can do now, that the original stalker games prolly didnt do due to limitations

[half bone]

the only modders that ever got donations from him were the big ones

[loud gate]

No one hated on Tarkov, everyone hated your wishes of Tarkov elements in Stalker

[half bone]

other mods didn't get sheet other than being in gamma

[hazy helm]

🤌 I'm sure he smokes some grass bro

[half bone]

i got anomaly agroprom grass soo i don't need his "500$ grass"

[loud gate]

Ahroprom*

[hazy helm]

There are various games that represent the abilities of what you can do now with modern engines why you would choose the clunkiest,buggiest and most unbalanced one of them all that goes against everything stalker is astounds me

[granite mortar]

Medpribor*

[polar orchid]

im just saying stalkers atmosphere would be well suited to things like mag management. it adds a layer of stress. perfect for a horror game.

[granite mortar]

No it would

[half bone]

Absolutely not.

[granite mortar]

You have your perspective bent by modern western mods

[loud gate]

Play Gamma

[polar orchid]

in a wasteland too, it would make sense if certain items from traders were barter only, adding more depth to looting.

[loud gate]

dude, just play Gamma

we don't want the games to be like Tarkov. Simple.

[granite mortar]

Its not wasteland, Stalker IS NOT fallout nor is it Metro

[half bone]

I told him that 2 times and he complains about low end hardware

[gaunt burrow]

Stalker is stalker. Tarkov is Tarkov

[half bone]

bro, tarkov is harder to run than gamma 💀

[granite mortar]

Stalker is stalker, tarkov is poopoo

[polar orchid]

my hardware is great. anomaly wont run due to some issues with my sound system. i can play on headphones but i dont want to.

[hazy helm]

Literally NLC7 man
Wtf
Go play NLC7

[half bone]

BROO, you said you can't run gamma what do you mean?????????

[quiet pecan]

If you want tarkov elements, create mod with this elements, do not make my game ugly tarkov thing

[polar orchid]

"openal cant create sound device" game does not start if i use my sound system

[hazy helm]

I don't see why we should shut down mods for a game that we don't even have yet,but we talk about S2 base

[half bone]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

just install openal from their website

[hazy helm]

Tbf,rosk uses some weird sound sys that fucks with OpenAl

So it doesn't work

[granite mortar]

We can certainly say that Tarkov players arent the sharpest tool in the shed

[polar orchid]

anomaly is the only thing that has any issues, id say its not my sound systems fault

[half bone]

smartest*

[granite mortar]

Yes, not the systems fault
Its your fault

[polar orchid]

can you guys stop the hate?

[half bone]

You should stop first.

[granite mortar]

Tools arent smart, they are sharp

[granite mortar]

#stophate #slayyyy #gamma4ever

[half bone]

If you don't like sdalger 2 being arcadey then make your own mods.

[polar orchid]

im not hating. im comparing the OG stalker games to something more modern. these are 15 year old games, im just being honest about how they play

[half bone]

these westerners omg

[hazy helm]

You are smashing a comparison that doesn't make sense

[granite mortar]

If you dont like it, mod it
If you cant mod it, shut up

[half bone]

i'm lucky that i don't live there

[granite mortar]

Where do you live?

[loud gate]

It's like comparing Red Dead Redemption 2 to UNO

[half bone]

bosnia

[polar orchid]

not really stalker and tarkov have a lot in common and you guys are being completely unreasonable, its quite funny

[loud gate]

Like what?

[granite mortar]

Oh, now the map making makes sense. You are making a virtual world with no mines to step on

[hazy helm]

You'd have a better comparison even with fallout or smth as fallout at the very least is a action adventure arcade FPS with story focus

[polar orchid]

theyre both shooters set in a dark setting

[loud gate]

@hazy helm Btw, Red Forest is back in S2

[half bone]

I have thought about putting land mines, everywhere.

[quiet pecan]

You can shoot and kill in both games, oh yea, trading too

[hazy helm]

Of course it will

[loud gate]

[granite mortar]

Chernobyl is in Balkan confirmed?

[loud gate]

Did I show you the full map we got so far?

or nvm, I will show you the mapping project when it's done

[half bone]

[hazy helm]

I saw

[loud gate]

Anything else?

[half bone]

wait you make maps for sdalger, too?

[hazy helm]

Damn,darktide is such a stalker like game

I can't believe it

You are empty is my fav stalker game

[granite mortar]

Nah, I didnt manage to get the editor to work on my PC and havent tried it on my laptop yet

[gaunt burrow]

[polar orchid]

they both involve looting and becoming overweight, though tarkov is obviously more modern and fleshed out

[half bone]

i'm talking about the other guy

[loud gate]

No, I am creating the S2 map based on available information right now aka
https://twitter.com/Stalker2News/status/1782377699744309508
https://twitter.com/Stalker2News/status/1782644215509356897

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 News (@Stalker2News) on X

We have some new information about the map of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2

We now have a better understanding of the layout and we can even see some location names. Keep in mind this is only a small portion.

I'd like to credit "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. UA" from Telegram for the high res map pictures

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 11:55 AM

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 News (@Stalker2News) on X

Here is another look at the map that shows Prypiat and Red Forest.

Twitter · Apr 23, 2024, 5:34 AM

[granite mortar]

I should go try it tho

[granite mortar]

Oh, okay

[half bone]

Aaaaa, I see.

[gaunt burrow]

Dude you love Tarkov, we get it. It's not a reason to turn Stalker into Tarkov

Stalker is NOT supposed to be Tarkov

[loud gate]

Oh my god, so it must be the same game right?

[half bone]

there are tutorials on youtube. Just search stalker sdk and call it a day

[polar orchid]

you guys are being completely unreasonable

[loud gate]

Guess CS:GO is like stalker because they both include killing people.

[half bone]

0.4 is for soc, 0.5/0.6 clear sky and 0.7 is cop and it's mods

[loud gate]

We aren't, your logic is plain dumb.

[quiet pecan]

Maybe you will compare pseudorealistic tarkov fighting to stalker's casual fighting?

[polar orchid]

peace out guys

[half bone]

my dust 2 mod 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[granite mortar]

I did, I followed the tutorial. Multiple times, it didnt work

[half bone]

try the one from infernis, it's 3 hours long but it explains pretty much everything about creating a first test map

[quiet pecan]

Actually there stalker mod for CS 1.6 so original CS can be stalker even more

[half bone]

the sdk needs the gamedata folder from original cop and rawdata from original 0.7 sdk

[granite mortar]

I didnt get the SDK to work, Ill check it if the thing runs on my laptop

[granite mortar]

I gave it both

[half bone]

what crashes did you get?

[half bone]

What are you gonna do about it? Cancel me on gamma?

[granite mortar]

"the app isnt working correctly, try resolving this issue by reinstalling"
Nothing else

[half bone]

I never got that error.

[granite mortar]

No error number, no specific problem, nothing

[spring apex]

install it somewhere other than disk C

[half bone]

mine is installed in downloads folder and works fine

[granite mortar]

I tried putting it on both D and E

[half bone]

and weighs about 130 gb

[granite mortar]

The what?!

[half bone]

I installed lots of sheet

[polar orchid]

cancel you?

[half bone]

don't ask why

[granite mortar]

Shut the hell up already

[spring apex]

ah i don't know what the problem then

yeah sdk usually weighs +60gb due to the model files

[granite mortar]

I mean, I have 350GB worth of mods so...
But 130GB of maps is crazy

[half bone]

Mine is about 120 or 130 since I have downloaded lots of custom rawdata

[sly iron]

Worse, ima gonna tell monolith where you are

[half bone]

I don't even know what did i download.

135.580.205.291 bytes to be exact (126 gb)

[sly iron]

What in gods name are you downloading that is taking up 126 GB?

[half bone]

assets, levels that i will port and edit their geometry, terrain and other stuff like props, buildings, vehicles

[granite mortar]

Bytes? What are these european units? Convert it to freedom units! How many UHQ AR-15 models could you fit in there?

[sly iron]

Sounds like Monolith activity if you ask me

[half bone]

freedom underground is the next level i will make

it's going to be filled with volumetric smoke, because freedom

[sly iron]

Welp time to rant about how I hate monolith for 5 hours straight

[granite mortar]

Please make a room with bed, red lights and bloodsucker statue

[half bone]

no, moddb ban

[granite mortar]

Nooooooo

[half bone]

it's a joke, but i don't want to waste time on something that will take an eternity to get verified and 10 downloads

[granite mortar]

Yeah
Oh do you have a link for the SDK? I already got the CoP one

[half bone]

You can find it in anomaly modding book it's called hybridxray

there are also different flavors, too.

[granite mortar]

Thanks

I always forget the name

[finite dragon]

I went at my grandparent's house.

[granite mortar]

Any Clear Sky experts around here?

[vague harbor]

There isn’t a single trophy guide for Clear Sky yet

So if anyone would wanna make one of those for console that’d be great

[hazy helm]

anybody tell him?

[sly iron]

#📜┃s2_suggestions message probably the only good suggestion I made (this is complete garbage)

[finite dragon]

Does stalker area have a story

[thick bolt]

I got to playing the game again, right now im about to go into the agroprom underground

Ive been to it before but i might shit my pants this time

[sly iron]

Which game

[thick bolt]

shadow of chernobyl

[sly iron]

Very good

[thick bolt]

Is anomaly a rework of shadow of chernobyl?

What about Gamma?

[sly iron]

Idk, I haven’t done gamma or anomaly, I’m finishing base game rn

[thick bolt]

Where are you now

[sly iron]

I forgot

[hazy helm]

anomaly is a separate standalone mod

not related to SoC

[thick bolt]

But ive seen it and the missions in it are similar to shadow

[gaunt burrow]

Anomaly is its own beast, same with GAMMA

[thick bolt]

Wait, So it's still in the zone but tells a different story

[hazy helm]

they arent

yes

Anomaly isnt Stalker.Anomaly is a mod made by the community

it is different

[gaunt burrow]

story of mods aren't related to story of original trilogy

[half bone]

The missions are repetitive like in soc

the storyline in anomaly sucks, though.

[hazy helm]

somehow the monolith...are back

[thick bolt]

Okay, also how do you throw grenades? is it one of the number keys

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[half bone]

numba 4

[hazy helm]

4

[thick bolt]

Woah
im not the brightest then

[sly iron]

Lemme get 50 on pump 4

[covert slate]

ay anyone know of the console command to get rid of the hud? i'm lookin to take some screenshots in Clear Sky

it seems to be different from the other two games

[sly iron]

It’s iuhhhh

Alt+F4 OOOR F10

Red or blue pill, you decide

[covert slate]

[thick bolt]

The real question is
Shadow of Chernobyl or Shadow of the collosus?

[sly matrix]

If that's the real question, what was the fake question?

[finite dragon]

Guys
Have anyone here played true stalker mod?

[sly matrix]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[finite dragon]

I'm just asking

I just want to download save files

[versed crypt]

How about both?

[thick bolt]

I dont know what to reply this with

[raven grove]

I dunno bro Shadow of Joe Mama is something else

[sly matrix]

Never thought about that, did you?

[finite dragon]

Guys does anyone still have thier true stalker save files

[half bone]

They can't send files here, ask that in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications since everyone can attach files

[woven snow]

seems UE5.4 is out today

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-4-is-now-available

any idea if s2 will be released with this new engine version in mind?

or are there like any drawbacks in transferring all work done from previous engine ver to new one?

release notes from said version are also available

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/unreal-engine-5.4-release-notes

[loud gate]

Most likely going to run on something like 5.1/5.2

You can try asking any GSC CM about it

[wraith snow]

Guys

Im playing Clear sky

[hidden stratus]

Hold on how long have we been able to post gifs here

[wraith snow]

And im at the "Swamp" level wherr i have to take over the farm

It says "hold the area till help comes" im waiting but help isnt coming

I killed everyone whsts the problem?

[hidden stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cheesy-chili-curly-fries-fries-curly-fries-food-chili-cheese-fries-gif-9232909218237194362

oh.. it turned it into a link..

[wraith snow]

So what does that have to do with my game?

I need help

[hidden stratus]

prolly one of the many anomalies found within the games code

[wraith snow]

Im playing console edition

Is it over for me?

[hidden stratus]

aw shucks... put it on the console bug reports

probably not.. just reload a older save

[wraith snow]

Bruh

[hidden stratus]

cmon man the game is a relic

[wraith snow]

WHEN IS HELP COMING

[hidden stratus]

have some sympathy for the now propbably 80 year old devs who worked on it

[woven snow]

ok, may ask them about it later

not gonna be pinging them on just for that tho

[granite mortar]

Hey, I need CoP gamedata for SDK to work but my CoP installation doesnt have it. It needs 1.6.0.2 version of CoP specifically which is the version I have

[sly iron]

Bro I keep hearing stuff, I swear everytime I walk past a corpse that looks even remotely like monolith I think he’s gonna whisper “monolith…” and then explode

[granite mortar]

You scared buddy?

[sly iron]

I’m fearing bro

[granite mortar]

Dont fear the monolith, its just an illusion. Like Stalker 2

[sly iron]

Also, show my awesome suggestion some love #📜┃s2_suggestions message

It’s absolutely garbage but it works

[granite mortar]

Cool, would be even greater if S2 had the old animated fly back deaths instead of ragdolls. They are comically dramatuc and would work well with this

[finite dragon]

what are the odds of anotherdelay

[loud gate]

0

[finite dragon]

really?

[sand fiber]

nope

[astral spruce]

Makes you think

[worn oar]

we are done with that ig

[solid dome]

Another delay will be crucial for my life

If a delay happens and I suddenly stop my activity in STOCtown, you know I'm gone forever

[finite dragon]

I can’t see any of the stashes in stalker clear sky does anybody else have same problem

Console

Xbox

[west anchor]

I might just watch shadow of chernobyls ending on YouTube instead

||all the monolith in the power plant won't die in less than 9 headshots ||

[finite dragon]

who here thinks that stalker 2 will be an emotional game

[true yarrow]

does somebody know how i can turn the mouse sense lower than 0.5 on stalker anomaly

[granite mortar]

At least two will drop a gauss rifle, with that even the toughest will drop with one headshot

[granite mortar]

Anomaly mentioned
Day ruined :(

[west anchor]

I actually just got through lol

[granite mortar]

Nice

[west anchor]

Time for big rock

[granite mortar]

Are you going for true ending?

[west anchor]

I played blind idk wtf that is

[granite mortar]

Oh, big rock
Thats a big NO then

Well you get that if you do the Talk to Guide mission and the quests that follow

It starts a new side quest line

[west anchor]

Well I didn't do all this for nothing so ig I'm getting the fake ending first

[gaunt burrow]

||All Wish Granter endings are fake||

[west anchor]

There's more than one?

[gaunt burrow]

||There are only 2 true endings in SoC||

[gaunt burrow]

7 endings in total. 5 endings are fake and 2 endings are true

[west anchor]

I killed strelok!

[granite mortar]

Id say theres ||one true and 6 fake, 5 of which are wish granter|| endings

[solid dome]

You killed his clones, go back

[west anchor]

||I mean I got an ending where I died. And I'm pretty sure my guy in shadow of chernobyl is strelok. He looks just like him in cutscenes.||

I'll replay the game but not today

Next run I'll try for the true ending

[solid dome]

Next run try the knife challenge, no firearms

[west anchor]

No thanks

[gaunt burrow]

||Marked One IS Strelok||

||Clear Sky events happen both before SoC and CoP events, and tell how exactly Strelok ended up in a Death Truck||

[regal sapphire]

what the spoiler?

[stark steppe]

Generally spoilers for the stalker games, probably new people roll in after the xbone updoot

[hidden stratus]

||These protagonists wouldn't survive a DAY in the metro world. I've become a bigger metro fan than a stalker fan in this past year. Call it treason if you want idc. Artyom on top ⬆️ ||

[west anchor]

Neat

[spring apex]

my first playthrough of stalker shadow of chernobyl years ago got bad ending too mate. don't worry, i feel you

my worst self just skipped brain scorcher and goes straight to pripyat. not knowing it was not how it works

[wet lark]

Can the guides take me from yanov to prippy once ive been to prip?

[regal sapphire]

how can I use a sort of free roam camera in stalker shadow of chernobyl

I want to take clips from different angles

[sly iron]

We should like, scrap all of S2 and instead of it being in a radiative anomaly ridden wasteland that is Pripyat it’s L.A. (no difference)

[hidden stratus]

nuke LA pls

[unreal cargo]

blind dogs will be replaced for deaf chihuahua's, sidorovich's chicken will be just the bone since he couldn't afford the chicken

[sly iron]

Freedom will be your average drug dealers, Duty is the LAPD, monolith is the crack heads, clear sky are the local red neck militia, mercs are your grangsters/thugs, etc.

[unreal cargo]

||There should be a secret ending in SoC where strelok moggs the Wish Granter with his anomaly of a chin and instead of wishing for something. He stares it out of existence and he becomes the new wish granter except instead of bringing riches out of thin air he just robs everyone||

[sand fiber]

isn't it already?

[hidden stratus]

again just to be safe

[versed crypt]

I wake up early and it is cold

[pearl jacinth]

mild brain injury

[versed crypt]

I woke up at 4? Or something

[versed crypt]

I have an uncontrollable urge to rather get a kebab or defeat Rishi Sunak in a brawl. I can't decide

[unreal cargo]

kebab Rishi Sunak

[versed crypt]

Make a Rishi kebab?

[pearl jacinth]

strelok out-mews the wish granter (2024)

[unreal cargo]

This ain't your grandma's anomaly (electric anomaly sound )(zone cat sound) Tonight we're gonna be dropping the most monolithic beats (*shotgun reload sound) Consider you're guy's wish granted at Anomaly FM, putting the beat down in these zones ("Marked One what the h- *cuts to background ambience scream)

[untold karma]

Morning guys

[versed crypt]

Hello

[untold karma]

How're you

[versed crypt]

I don't know to be honest

[untold karma]

Oh rip rip hope everything is or goes well

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[bold sphinx]

Atleast do only pistols thats rly fun or for even more fun only starting pistol

[bold sphinx]

you to man

[gaunt burrow]

Attention Freedom Squad! The Commander of Duty task force speaking. I command you to turn around and get the xell out of here! You have no business in the center of the Zone

Well, get them! What are you, playing a commander here??? Now we'll show you who shoud piss off! Men! Let's kick their asses!

[finite dragon]

Hello. Guys and girls.

[autumn thorn]

Is This A Part Of The Event In The Game?? (It Would Be Epik If It In The Game)

[gaunt burrow]

It's in SoC

[autumn thorn]

Freedom Quest?

[gaunt burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1fibfEmPU 4:32:08

[autumn thorn]

Ok

[gaunt burrow]

those are/were voicelines of Freedom and Duty commanders

[autumn thorn]

I See

[gaunt burrow]

Sometimes those voices aren't activated for some reason

[autumn thorn]

Bug

[polar orchid]

you guys ever seen this clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83K5hdElsLQ

when one of the first things he does is compare stalker 2 to escape from tarkov i LOL'd. made me think of you guys 😘

[hazy helm]

links a IGN video
Talks as if IGN has any gaming knowledge
lol lmao

this...is shit bait man

try harder

[polar orchid]

heh, thought you'd agree with him on some parts... he seems to think that reloading your gun presents a challenge

there are no magazines in the inventory screen, no pockets required for certain items

straight up easy street lol and he thinks its challenging

[hazy helm]

I know about the leak from ppl who played it,not IGN

better info source

[polar orchid]

so is it true? no rigs, no pockets, just a magic backpack?

and magic mags

[hazy helm]

yes,its like it was in the OG game,as it should be

did you expect anything else?

[polar orchid]

yeah i expect modern games to be a little bit more engageing

the og stalker games are really boring now

[pearl olive]

yea sucks... i heard you don't even extract or jerk off on a pile of loot for hours at a time in S2

[hazy helm]

he says this meanwhile every other modern single player fps uses the same system

its like you have insane ammounts of tunnel vision

[polar orchid]

doesnt need any extract elements, but preparing for the road ahead would be way more engaging if you had to decide what fits in your pockets and what is best stowed in your bag, and choosing if you have time to pack mags

[hazy helm]

you already choose what you stow and waht you bring

[polar orchid]

yeah in a magic backpack, thats boring and outdated

[pearl olive]

lol no one but sweaty tarkov players want that BS... we dont need to play with our inventory for days to be 'engaged'

[regal sapphire]

help

[polar orchid]

its one less thing to progress with, there will be no joy in finding a bigger rig to have more grenades and mags ready, you will jsut keep reloading magic mags and throwing as many grenades as you have

[hazy helm]

you are not going to have rigs in the game

its called armour man lol

[pearl olive]

you realize that youre projecting YOUR idea of whats engaging on an entire community that has zero need or want for what you like?

[polar orchid]

yeah it sucks. the game looks so good but the gameplay will be really boring

[hazy helm]

I...I think you are mistaking the kind of game stalker 2 is

[polar orchid]

whats scary about "oh no i need to reload"... i have neevr felt stressed playing the OG stalker games

[regal sapphire]

this dude seriously thinks stalker is gonna have tactical rigs?

[polar orchid]

more stress would come from "oh no i have no mags, i literally need to use pistol or knife"

[nimble cipher]

buzzbug has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pearl olive]

so that will never happen? no one will run out of ammo?

what is this guy trying to convince himself of lol

[regal sapphire]

no one cares about hardcore mechanics

[polar orchid]

the appeal of stalker that people talk fondly of is planning your journey, scavenging and managing ammo... its boring to limit it to an arcadey experience

[pearl olive]

or....

[regal sapphire]

did you enjoy the vanilla games?

[polar orchid]

yeah back in the day

now theyre super stale

i dont see the point in anything im doing, i dont need to do any of it

[regal sapphire]

what stalker mod do you play now?

[polar orchid]

i cant play mods on my current computer

[pearl olive]

lol this guy is having an existential crisis and blaming.... 20 year old games and his own affinity for wearing cute vests

[regal sapphire]

rip

[polar orchid]

hopefully someone very quickly mods stalker 2 cos i wont play it more than once

[pearl olive]

the community WEEPS at the thought lol

[polar orchid]

i might just activate my pc game pass for a month and not even buy it lol

[regal sapphire]

if you want something like that just stick to tarkov

[polar orchid]

tarkov has no mutants, or the amazing graphics or radiation or the location

[hazy helm]

the appeal of stalker is the story,the world,and the gunplay mechanics being loose and responsive

the simulation is also one of the big appeals

[polar orchid]

the idea of a stalker is someone managing their ammo and surviving

[hazy helm]

cant play mods
has only ever tried 1 mod

sure man

[regal sapphire]

in nlc you have rig iirc

[hazy helm]

never was,it was always about a AI drive world of Sci Fi with strong strong and lore

[polar orchid]

i should be punished for forgetting to put a bandage and med kit in my rig, i should have to choose between an extra mag or a grenade

[regal sapphire]

maybe you can play that

[hazy helm]

this just,isnt that kinda game man

I cant tell you anything more

[polar orchid]

the story in stalker is not good lol. the atmosphere is

[regal sapphire]

.

[hazy helm]

you have a very skewed perception of waht is considered an advancement in gaming

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/shirley-temple-giggle-laugh-gif-5118563

[pearl olive]

BIG time

[hazy helm]

damn man

big time baiter

pick a good worm next time,you cant catch fish otherwise

[polar orchid]

most people agree the staker games are not about the ending, its about the journey. there isnt much story to speak of. plenty of lore and intrigue but the story sucks

[regal sapphire]

thats what you think man

[pearl olive]

lol what is your point? you dont like stalker? go play lame assed tarkov?

[regal sapphire]

on gyatt

[pearl olive]

now THERE'S a story line - Tarkov

[hazy helm]

the journey is literally story,the entire game revolves around a story taht you make

you have never played stalker,it shows throught

[polar orchid]

tarkov has no real story either, its all about the atmosphere and the journey

[regal sapphire]

maybe make your own mod then

[hazy helm]

I have nothing else than to say taht you are a deaf mule who has a skewed perception of what you saw on youtube and is now complaining that the new game is made with the old fans in mind when you wanted what was never there in the first place

you are a cry babyy

[polar orchid]

i have. the endings of all the games are ass lol. SoC has the best endings and thats not saying much, the other 2 are complete anti-climaxes.

[hazy helm]

Im quite tired of you crying about shit that was never there and that isnt an "advancement" as you put it

BF1 time

[polar orchid]

its just disappointing, tarkov and other games have shown what is possible these days to make games of this nature more engaging and meaningful. but stalker 2 is gonna give us magic mags and magic backpack and call itself a horror/simulation type of experience.

[pearl olive]

you're DEFINITELY disappointing

[polar orchid]

theres nothing scary about having magic mags and a magic backpack

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

hey,Stalker 2 isnt for you

go play another game

[polar orchid]

when i played tarkov first time it reminded me of stalker, gave me all kinds of stalker vibes, made me excited for stalker 2... then re-playing the OG stalker games and realising what i realise now is just sad

[hazy helm]

that is literally you gaslighting yourself

I dont even have a joke for this

it was all in your head

[pearl olive]

the joke is telling itself above

[polar orchid]

i just find it funny that people think the game would be ruined without magic mags and magic backpack

[hazy helm]

I just think its funny that you played Tarkov and convinced yourself that Tarkov is a representation of Stalker 2 when the 2 are complete utter opposites

its kinda like you playing Call of Duty and gaslighting yourself about the new Battlefield game

[polar orchid]

theyre not opposites, they are similar and youre fooling yourself to say otherwise

[hazy helm]

kinda like playing the new Armored Core 6 game and gaslighting yourself that Battletech is the exact same

its funny

[polar orchid]

i dont understand your hate for tarkov

[pearl olive]

yea totally.. an extraction style, round based FPS is absolutely the same as an open world rpg style FPS its like tomato tomato

when i think stalker - i think extracting to go play with my loot in my hole for 60 mins

[polar orchid]

your hate for tarkov is completely irrational

[hazy helm]

I dont hate tarkov,I dont want Stalker 2 to be Tarkov,I dont get your inssessant dickridding of it tho

get the meat outta your mouth like goddamn

[polar orchid]

tarkov is an extraction shooter. but the inventory management and supplies management is perfect. and would make staker more engaging, more intense, more scary

and more of an adventure

literally all you think about in stalker is whats in your magic bag

[pearl olive]

so would adding zombies and headcrabs but no one wants that and its not the same game.... do you understand that??

[hazy helm]

you want some that isnt stalker,which is fine,just dont act suprise and hurt when you tell the fans of the game that the game they like is wrong,outdated,and in fact,complete fucking ass,and taht youre going to need to completely change it so you who isnt really inside the fanbase,can have fun

I dont get your stubborness

it feels,really entitled

[polar orchid]

i dont see how modernising the gameplay would make it not stalker

[pearl olive]

adding features that you like is mot modernizing

[polar orchid]

they are features that go hand in hand with what staker represents, planning your journey throught the zone... how are you planning when all you need to worry about is how heavy you are

[pearl olive]

shoudl it have fortnite dancing? thats in most games now and would REALLY amke it feel current

[hazy helm]

no thats not modernizing
you realising,you dont really like a game,but instead of moving on and trying to find something else you see fit to come into the fanbase and call everyone outdated gatekeepers who are too idiotic or in bad faith to understand why the game needs to cater to your own interests

its like,if I came into Tarkov and said,its shit,I dont wanna do logistical tetris,remove it,also,remove inertia and make jumping like arena shooters

this is making the game better like Apex

[pearl olive]

yea tarkov is outdated.. you cant even switch to a bunny suit like in other FPS... would make it so much more engaging

[polar orchid]

i agree

[pearl olive]

they should probably add artifacts and pseudogiants as well with a few fetch quests... otherwise all im thinking about is the bunny suit

[polar orchid]

well eventually in tarkov you become super enough to have heavy rigs loaded with gear that you dont need to worry so much about management you can just carrya tonne of stuff so technically it does have all that you mentioned minus the bunny suits. there are emotes

[hazy helm]

swap out Tarkov for NLC7

amazing

10/10

chick magnet

[winged spruce]

If you dont like the game dont play it. Why are you even on this DC if you dont like Stalker? Go Play Tarkov, man 😄

[polar orchid]

i have to rant somewhere, nobodys gonna care about me ranting about staker in a halo discord

[hazy helm]

I dont tarkov,I dont see why it matters,we have repeatedly told you,we dont want tarkov,and it is not a modernization,merely a diverging path,stop talking about tarkov,this is stalker man

please

[winged spruce]

Or just keep your opinion to yourself? Just dont play the game if you dont like it. You talk so much about EFT. Why are you not busy playing EFT?

[hazy helm]

it is actually funny how willingly you miss the point and shut your hears off

[hazy helm]

why bash someone for saying opinion?discord was made to have discussions in,if you dont think his opinion is right,just say is opinon is shit

[polar orchid]

look its fine, i will get over it and there will be mods i needed to get it off my chest im sorry

[hazy helm]

saying an opinion is bad is an opnion of the opinion itself

[winged spruce]

Because his opinion is not constructive. Its like "oh this shit is garabage and not modern". "Magic backpack, magic magazine what trash"... that doesnt help nobody. He deliberatly comes to this DC to troll/rile people up.

[polar orchid]

hey yall troll me back, fair is fair

[winged spruce]

Also: Stalker =! EFT. That should be obvious, shouldnt it? And also: GAMMA =! S2.

[pearl olive]

idk... all i can think about now is the backpack guys ima cancel my preorder

[hazy helm]

Id say its constructive enuff,thougth yesterday and today he has demonstrated the point he would not like Stalker 2 because he merely thinks that EFT's mechanics are more condusive to the thought of stalker he has in his head
this is fair Id say,it is also completely fair to have a problem with this opinion and refute it with your own arguments

thus a discussion is born

[winged spruce]

Pre-Ordering is bad. People should've learned after Fallout 76.

[pearl olive]

(i didn't actually pre-order )

[hazy helm]

do I think the opinion is dumb?yes,but every opinion has the same weight as the other really

[polar orchid]

im actually playing on gamepass and ill buy on sale when a decent mod comes out lol

[pearl olive]

but now i WON'T pre-order with this backpack mess

[hazy helm]

console?

[polar orchid]

though it woulda been 100x better if there was a harder difficulty that forces mag management, pocket item use only etc that gives me an achievement for playing that way

so i can have it on my gamer profile y'know

[winged spruce]

Its fine to not like S2. Its fine to think EFT is a better game. Is it needed to come to the Stalker DC, proceed to bash a game thats not even released yet and praise another game, that has its own troubles, to heaven. Thats just trolling/trying to bait reactions out of people. Not a big fan.

[polar orchid]

PC

i have a free month that i never used, imma just use it for stalker

[hazy helm]

also,wondering,you only really tried playing Anomaly right?

I am genuinely trying to help now

[polar orchid]

i cant play anomally on my sound system so i wont play

im really particular

[hazy helm]

yes,that is what Im talking about
the thing is we need to see if it is a problem with anomaly or if it is your drivers,every single standalone mod,uses OpenAl
try installing OGSR for example,if you cant play it,we'll know its the issue with your drivers

it is,key to minimize points of failure when diagnosing an issue

[polar orchid]

it is something to do with drivers. i can play anomaly on headphones if i want to

it runs fine, my computer is more than capable. it jsut wont recognise my sound system.

[hazy helm]

whaat was your deck name again?

[polar orchid]

Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol S2

The driver hasnt been updated for Windows 11, so I dont use the official drivers, Windows auto installs a driver that works. The official drivers mess up my system.

Audio Production is more important to me than gaming so I cant change my setup. Even temporarily, last time I disconnected my cables I had to buy new ones cos theyre really firmly wedged in to the connectors

[hazy helm]

have you downloaded the comapnies software or tried updating the drivers or even contacting customer support about it?

[polar orchid]

yeah theyre surprisingly clueless to help lol. they just told me to use the windows drivers and that works for everything other than stalker mods

[hazy helm]

interesting

[versed crypt]

Hello STOCgang

[finite dragon]

@hazy helm

[hazy helm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1065173289980416060/sleep.gif

[finite dragon]

Loner/clear sky/duty/freedom/ecologist

Choose one

[hazy helm]

none

[finite dragon]

Don't think about it alot

Dude
Just choose one

[hazy helm]

Taurus Crew

[finite dragon]

What

Loner is the best anyway

[regal sapphire]

on gyatt

I sided with duty for all the 9x39 they provide for missions in SoC

[wooden girder]

Sr 25

[hazy helm]

What?

[finite dragon]

Anybody know when ultimate edittion available again? @loud gate

[gaunt burrow]

Real

supremacy

[finite dragon]

Ong

[loud gate]

Copypasta time

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT PRESS KIT, REMEMBER?
IT IS WHAT IT IS
DECIDED TO DOWNLOAD BOLTS AND BULLETS
MOL1T CAN'T QUITE SEEM TO UPLOAD IT
MAYBE ARTEMIDA CAN FIGURE IT OUT?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....
WE HAVE A SIMPLE CHOICE, UPLOAD IT
OR SIT BACK WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE
ONLY I KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN
UNLIKE YOU

[west anchor]

Loners take soooooo long to get to the garbage for an outpost capture

Took them like 10 real life minutes

Is clear sky always like this for faction warfare?

[finite dragon]

Rttn is amazing

[west anchor]

?

[thick bolt]

I understood nothing

[finite dragon]

People need to start making stalker mods on mod.io

There’s already a couple of them

[hazy helm]

why uplaod mods on an inferior platform?

we use Moddb

[finite dragon]

Yah but I thought they were gonna use mod.io for console

[hazy helm]

yes but wahtever work you do on computer will need to be remade,tested and approved for another store that is managed by GSC
little sense to upload them to Mod.Io

[loud gate]

Good.

[finite dragon]

True how do I download mods for console on a better site (Xbox series x)

[hazy helm]

GSC will use Mod.Io,they will have a self contained store for said mods that is regulated by them

there is only one way,the way GSC intended,in the consoles terms

[wooden girder]

Loner monolith best faction

[hazy helm]

you said 2 factions

[wooden girder]

So ?

[finite dragon]

Is incubator good

[hazy helm]

heard so

[hazy helm]

how can one be best if there are 2

[finite dragon]

Wait stalker is on console?

[hazy helm]

yes

with the release of SLuTZ

[finite dragon]

What console?,

[hazy helm]

Stalker Legends of the Zone

[hazy helm]

every except nintendo

[finite dragon]

Ahhhhhh
Y'all need to change the nickname ngl

[wooden girder]

Both best

[hazy helm]

there can only be one,or none,best is exclusive

[wooden girder]

Ok then loner then comes monolith

Balls

[regal sapphire]

I find it funny how strelok voiceline sounds in CS when you have to catch him

[hazy helm]

@glossy blade is stalker 2 post apocalyptic? and why it isn't

[mellow palm]

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : fatal error
[error]Function : inventory::upgrade::Group::can_install
[error]File : E:\priquel\sources\engine\xrGame\inventory_upgrade_group.cpp
[error]Line : 116
[error]Description : <no expression>
[error]Arguments : Loading item: Upgrade <up_a_wincheaster1300> of inventory item [wpn_wincheaster1300] (id = 17484) can`t be installed! Error = result_e_group

i recently installed the clear sky complete mod and whenever i teleport to certain places this happens

anyone know a fix?

[hazy helm]

Delete clear sky and turn off cloud saves
Reinstall and install SRP instead

[mellow palm]

will i lose my progress?

[hazy helm]

Yes

[mellow palm]

sad

[worn oar]

[gaunt burrow]

Strelok in CS sounds wayyy to young

Although CS events happen in late 2011 and SoC events in mid 2012

[halcyon isle]

Hold up...

So SC is before SoC? Then did Strelok do two journey into the heart of the Zone? I am lost ngl

[gaunt burrow]

Chronologically Clear Sky happens first (it starts in September 10 of 2011

Then SoC that starts in May 1 of 2012 and lastly CoP that starts in 3 August of 2012

[hazy helm]

Strelok did multiple raids into the core of the zone

[gaunt burrow]

In total Strelok was in CNPP thrice. First time he was with Ghost and Fang (they reached the Sarcophagus and stumbled upon the secret door and since they couldn't open it they retreated)

And then large emission was unleashed that triggered CS plot

Second time he reached CNPP during CS events also. In the end of CS Scar disables his psy-protection. Then Strelok got brainwashed and lost his memory

[normal tiger]

We gettin' some news anytime soon? Seems awefully quiet for something releasing in like 4 months and change...

[halcyon isle]

Daaamn I didn't know! It is so cool to learn the way of these events. Thanks Matt!

[normal tiger]

Let's engage the community a bit with some new material, ya?

[halcyon isle]

Hopefully!

[finite dragon]

will stalker 2 play alright on the series x?