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With 60 kilometers of map there has to be some good form of travel around the map that isnt fast travel
doubt the world will be big enough to require transportation
half life 2 reverse bhop
dont need vehicles if you fly through the air at 362 mph
Thanks
Half-Life > Half-Life 2
not really
It’s about 64km^2. For reference skyrim was about 40km^2
"64 kilometers" doesn't mean anything
squared
it's not how you measure game maps
Yes it is lmao 
its squared
Exactly, it would be cool to walk across all that but what if a quest requires you to go somewhere far and back
That’s literally how u measure maps
nozar u silly :3
Eyyy Near Perfect good ending for COP i just got
Id do it it’s part of the game and if the world is designed well I wouldn’t mind the journey
"""kilometer""" in a game doesn't mean anything what are you talking about
kilometers squared does tho
Hell yeah (i couldnt help Cardan with whereabouts of bis friends)
how
64km in both X and Y directions
what's a kilometer in a game
64km x 64km basically
WHAT'S A KILOMETER IN A GAME
LIKE A KILOMETER IRL!!! The irl “zone” is much bigger
Games measure distance by meters, 1000 meters in a kilometer. That's probably what they meant
But stalker isn’t gonna be as big as the actual Chernobyl zone irl
what's a meter in a game?
(((squared)))
gsc, boutta hit us with the "yeah we made the entire country of ukraine the game map":
do you really not understand that kms and ms are not appliable in a game
it is if u square it 
the only viable measurements of how big a map is are in-engine units/how long it takes to traverse it
which u can then convert to meters or kilometers squared

that's arbitrary and not comparable to other games, so it simply doesn't mean anything
For example: the Chernobyl exclusion zone is about 2600 square km. Stalker 2 is only 64 square km. They still use accurate km distances but one is a MUCH smaller representation
look at size refs for the engine
there are none
for example:
1 unit in unity engine is 1 meter
it's not how this whole thing works
Game engines also have their own system of measurement, they might of gone with that
(the official unity game engine documentation)
Unreal units are metric by default. One unreal unit is equal to one centimeter, and likewise 100,000 unreal units equal one kilometer. For your cube example, the default cube that you can add to a scene from the Place Actors panel is 1 meter in size.
In many “real world” setups, we recommend you assume 1 Unity unit
= 1 meter (100cm), because many physics systems assume this unit size. For more advice, see the Art Asset best practice guide.
the creators of the engine can provide references like this
that's not applicable to games and again, doesn't tell anything about the map's actual size lmfao
do you really not understand that you can't measure virtual space with meters
Bro what? Can u not comprehend conversions? A unity unit is just a unit of distance that can be converted to irl units like km or miles.
Are u tryna say that u cannot measure distance in games?
gsc said the map is 64 km squared, therefore it is 64 km squared
no it can't holy shіt, you can decide that 1 unit is a meter, you can decide that 1 unit is 10 meters, it's arbitrary and doesn't say anything
only in engine units
some engines provide documentation on how large a unit actually is
IT'S ARBITRARY
like the example of unity that ive provided
it doesn't mean anything, it's not comparable to other games
their fault for not following the docs, then. 
No u can’t. U technically could say it but it can get disproven. I can go out and say that I dated Megan fox but no one would believe me. By ur logic almost anything can be arbitrary
what the fuсk are you talking about
what do you not understand about the fact that meters and kilometers aren't applicable to virtual spaces
If u used any rendering software you’d know that it’s not arbitrary
the one thing you NEED to do when making a game is to read the engines official documentation
They can be tho? How do u think ur everyday items are designed? In virtual design apps like solidworks, cad inventor, blender etc.
otherwise you're not gonna know how to use the engine, and therefore will go nowhere in your game development journey.
designing everyday items isn't the same as creating a map for a game
No, I think you got it wrong. The map is said to be 64 km² so that would be 8km x 8km.
Another great convo ruined by NozAr starting an argument
Oops yea I think ur right
I thought it’d be 64km in both x and y planes
correct
That's close to the maps used in pubg
That would be 4096km^2 Jesus
that map would have a whole lot of NOTHING
Ubisoft map lmao
unless the devs dedicate another 20 years to filling it up lmao
this is why i'm arguing, how the hell did you measure
Just a way for devs to compare to real life measurements
would it even be possible to make a decentish game with a map that large and use most if not all of the map space
that campaign better be like 200 hours long if someones gonna do this
my whole point was that different games aren't comparable
what gsc considers as 1km is 4km for some other dev, because they just felt so
I think its based on the game engine each game uses. UE, Unity, etc
It depends on if the devs would show documentation on their distance units and what not. Some devs don’t care to provide that so take their word with a grain of salt. U can also use topography and just guesstimate using how fast ur character can walk aka character speed. 20m/s and I travel for 100s that’s about 2,000m aka 2km in one direction.
The cool thing is about Stalker 2 is that it’s being developed on UE which has design documentation that tells u what distance units are being used
lets ask gsc
"hey gsc game world,,, are you using engine docs to calculate the size of your game world"
Alright man believe whatever you want to believe
unreal engine provides a measurement tool
https://dev.epicgames.com/community/learning/tutorials/70z/how-to-measure-distances-in-unreal-engine
gsc better be using this to calculate map size looool
ok tbh this entire conversation couldve ended really soon if just brought this up, my bad lol
sorry for going in circles @sand fiber
This is more of an issue of proportionality than anything. For things to make mathematical sense they’d have keep proportionality. Visually this would mean that irl a 2m long baby and a 10m long table table can be “shrunk” down to 1m long baby and 5m table and still keep the same mathematics
2 meter long baby....???
2/10 = 1/5
what the hell
Yea they’re about 2 meters right?
you're still wrong btw 
Idk I use American units 💪
you can set measuring tool units to centimeters, meters, or kilometers in unreal engines measurement tool
if devs arent using this to measure map sizes then whoopsies
its not accurate by the rules of the engine then, at that point then yeah they make their own
((it'll still be not accurate in my mind tho because documentation for life 🔥))((not really, some docs suck))
As long as 1 unreal unit is equal to 1 meter and they are always equal and proportional then they are truly and mathematically proven to not be arbitrary
The main issue now is probably with how they actually measured and not what units were used
my point, summarized:
please for the love of anything that is holy, use official in engine tools and documentation for calculating map sizes
here's to hoping gsc did 
that still wouldn't mean anything, because how long it takes to traverse the map (and thus how big it feels) differs on game to game basis 
i'm going insane
yeah because different people walk at different speeds lol
It only differs depending on travel velocity
this is assuming that every game protagonist ever is NOT a carbon copy of one another
Rdr2 map and gta 5 map are the same size but one feels MUCH bigger bc it has slower traversal
this applies to other movement things like running and crawling
Stalker 2 will FEEL massive bc we’ll be mostly walking im assuming
Reason: Bad word usage
i crawl slow as fuk (thanks wolf) while a military dude might be like a spider
We have irl data for games that use realistic movement
therefore it will take longer for me to traverse the "map"
while the military dude will get that done quicker
all of this and the map is the same size.
And we can also use irl data for assets like how big a tree is and using the size of certain known things to calculate speed
true!
and once we have speed we can then calculate how big something is by how much time it takes to traverse it
to branch off of this, a map may feel large when in reality it is very small because your character moves remarkably slowly.
Yea rdr2 felt so much bigger than gta 5 bc u were on horseback or running around but both of those maps are the same size
In gta 5 u are zooming down 200mph in a car
so what your saying is true here, but this doesnt apply to map size and how that changes game per game i think.
it generally applies more to how fast the player character is allowed to move
If we’re assuming that stalker 2 is gonna use realistic human movement then it doesn’t matter what GSC says we can calculate the map size on our own
the map size would still be what gsc says
i still stand by my point that you can't use meters to measure things in games
we would just move slowly through it, thus making it feel larger
then adapt to what the game dev says is "1 meter tall/long" in their game's scenario
As long as they are always a meter and are always proportionally correct then u can. If they aren’t then u can’t. A meter in one game should be the same in another game under good circumstances
hopefully you wont have to ask them for these measurements if they go off of the engine docs
then everyones happy. you get your measurements, the dev has to respond to one less dm
going off of engine docs is likely easier tbh. if you make your own way of measuring, you have to convert EVERY unit of measurement, like centimeters, meters, etc
unless you just eyeball it. please don't just eyeball it
sure the map may look nice anyways but that one dude that's super into math will likely get mad at you
If GSC was using an in-house private game engine then I’d be much more weary of just taking their word for it but we don’t have to worry abt that bc of unreal engine having unit measurement documentation
if gsc was using their own inhouse engine, just ask them "hey. how large is one kilometer in your engine?"
then go off of that
the only thing i'm getting from this is that you're using a different word for a unit
thats essentially what the docs ive brought up recommend you do yeah
1 unit = 1 meter for unity
unless you make your own way of measuring. good luck with that, in the case you do
which doesn't in any way translate to real-world meters or to other-engine-measurement-meters
U mean unity unit right? Not just unit lol
I think he meant to say a unity unit not just unit
yeah, a unity unit
Bc unit is what u say to describe like anything measurable
if you use just unit, WHAT are you doing
That could mean anything lmao 😭
and more importantly, how are you doing it
its like asking how much something weighs and the other person says "yeah this thing weighs 20"
20 what? pounds? grams?
communication is important!
Nah bro I just weight 150
150 TONS 🔥
Damn 😔
s2's map is actually 6
Cm
nah thats too large
Yea that’s massive!
millimeters
Omg that’s such a good size ❤️
im happy that we agree now
"its average sized ok"
1 nanometer 🔥🔥🔥 (the character moves super duper uber slowly so it feels like a kilometer)
actually im pretty sure the game engine would start to shit itself with things this small
le floating point precision????
2000 meters 🔥
I weight a light year 
i'm 2 yards tall btw
Damn
one time i ran into a kid on vrchat that claimed he was 20 feet tall
Bro taller than ||gyro||
Oh the game that I almost got groomed In when I was like 14 lol
what the heeeelllll
yeah there's an amount of people on there suck ass i'm gonna be honest
Yea but I mean that’s like any social gathering game lol
vrchat gets good when u find ur group
I did once and it was fun but vr messes me up sometimes
e-boys that use avatars that havent even thought about optimization that also get mad when u mute them for playing music thru the mic
blegh......
stalker related because there's a stalker community on vrchat tho... right....?
Lol I used some weird old dude as my avatar and ppl always thought I was some old boomer
Until I spoke when I was 14 and sounded like a squeaker
a fun thing to do in vrchat is have people guess your age exclusively from your voice
or rather, in stalker 2's multiplayer,,, implying thats gonna have VOIP
hopefully. VOIP makes anything so much more fun
We’ll see what type of multiplayer they’ll have it’ll probably be similar to the older games
different engines have different sizes, thats what it does get funny. just a final thought
yeah the pvp in the trilogy is super fun
there are a hundred of insane russian men playing since 2006 present at all times
legends of the zone say that one day, ivan just spawned in immediately after the release of the stalker game... he spawned in with the knowledge of the chornobyl shadows, so played in pvp he did....
you can log in at like 3am moscow and there will be some 40yo playing TDM swearing in voicechat
he is still going to this day
he doesn't need to eat, he especially does not need to sleep. he plays soc pvp.
maam, what if i log in at 4am moscow?

You’ll have to deal with me 😡
oh shit
and then i stalked all over the place
couch status: OBLITERATED
Huh... So this is it, Stalker... The Shadow Of Chernobyl.......
couch status: NONEXISTANT
couch status: RELEASING ON SEPTEMBER 5TH
.... 2064
Reason: Bad word usage
For my cop players, how can you get up the god for sacken southern plateau
Hello. How are you?
Aye. That part is nightmare
Go to Old Barge and find Noah
He knows the route to third Stingray helicopter
I grow mine organically.
Hello
hi
good
I just got into S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl yesterday, anyone got any tipps for me?
Don't shoot the military at the bridge
Is it really really bad if i already have?
nah
whats so important about them
i think thats how i get my first gun aha
I think my first gun was a sawed off db shotgun
and then i got an ak74 u from one of the guys at the bridge
You would see the result of that you have done in the Clear Sky part when you leave swamps for the first time. Remember the name - Vova Vist
go look into one of the house in the starting village. there is a merc armor.
Play on the highest difficulty
I think it changes what weapons npcs use
So you'll get better weapons faster
Also there's a secret true ending - keep playing and you'll find it.
To jump higher you have to throw grenades under your feet and to load your headlamp you need to go into electra anomaly
should i change the difficulty to the highest or just start a whole new game on the hardest difficulty
Oh and by the way you can walk all the way to Kyiv if you kill all military npcs on the blockpost and go through the gates
Ok, will do, thanks for telling me
Yes you can change it anytime

Where can i even get a headlamp?
Kill Wolf
Is that really necessary
Yes
wont my reputation decrease a lot by doing that
Reinstall the game and then you can use L button
No
He's lying
i know
Yes, lying, it does not help
You always have it, normally L or check settings
I am just envious you get such great experience
@rancid kestrel at army warehouses
You get to army warehouses via northern exit at rostok
No, aprogrom underground is just tunnels under aprogrom that are like alternative paths
In which game
SoC
2 entrances on the west side of garbage
In CS you can enter from cordon west entrance to dark valley
from garbage
I hate apple vision pro
I tried one out and it’s overrated ash. It’s just like a quest but a good bit clearer. Not worth almost 4 grand usd
Wait for Stalker 3
Reputation system in SoC is bugged anyways
You can have Excellent reputation that may go to Terrible after completing 1 sidequest
Better not to pay too much attention to it
Don't forget to press F5 often 
if u havent free space in invertory, shoose the empty house for yourself that you like and drop items on the floor to return and get it when you need it, like food or first aid kit
I WAS ATTACKED WHILE IN STOC 
I'VE GOT HIT WITH A SOLID ROCK 
AND WHEN I WOKE UP 
I SAW MOLIT STANDING BESIDE ME 
"HERE, TAKE THIS CHILL PILL!" 💊
WHY IN THE HELL I WOULD NEED CHILL PILL? 
"TAKE A LOOK AROUND, YOU MUST THINK STRAIGHT" 
O P E N T H E D O O R ! 
I'M LOSING IT, MOLIT 
OVER AND OUT 
I WAS ATTACKED WHILE IN STOC 
I'VE GOT HIT WITH A SOLID ROCK 
AND WHEN I WOKE UP 
I SAW MOLIT STANDING BESIDE ME 
"HERE, TAKE THIS CHILL PILL!" 💊
WHY IN THE HELL I WOULD NEED CHILL PILL? 
"TAKE A LOOK AROUND, YOU MUST THINK STRAIGHT" 
O P E N T H E D O O R ! 
I'M LOSING IT, MOLIT 
OVER AND OUT 

Wtf
How do we do, Matt
Krezzin what happened to your tag? no more Sir and STOC Gaming?
All is well, thanks. Wbu?
I'm hot and wet, as in sweatin
He's been stripped of his valor by the GSC overlords
Factually, yes
Do bloodsuckers only spawn at night?
Nope
I heard creepy noises in garbage
Travel around a bit, maybe you'll come across it if you're lucky 😄
Are you advising me to how to encounter bloodsuckers?
Go to the certain places at night
Army Warehouses have lots of Bloodsuckers for example
Open your map and find Army Warehouses and go there at night
If you want a challange 😄
Which places have bloodsuckers in army warehouses? Isn't there is freedom base?
Look for the tower at the northern section of the map
You can't miss it
Red Forest is the second best place for it
Have you encountered Snorks so far? @wheat osprey
Shotgun is pretty effective
if you dont like switching weapons, just use a fast firing ar
TRs301 is my favorite
always kill sucker within a mag
@finite dragon "Chad" Chadman back on track. How do we feel today, broski?
This generation is going to hell I prefer real world
Nah
Krezzin lost his knighthood, he is nothing but a peasant to GSC
Is South-east in army warehouse freedom base?
No, but I have seen dead snorks in cordon Bridge tunnel with electrical anomalies
Wiki says bloodsuckers spawn rarely in red forest
Do you see Army Warehouses area on the map? @wheat osprey
Go there first because Red Forest will be later
Comment of the Day
I'm the peasant of the day 
No, bro, I want rather stay with lovely freedom guys than encountering bloodsuckers
It is up to you
How many times have you encountered bloodsuckers in Army warehouses and garbage, red forest before?
(Shadow of chernobyl)
There are no Bloodsuckers in Garbage if I'm not wrong
You haven't encountered or there are no bloodsuckers in garbage?
Wiki says bloodsuckers spawn in garbage rarely
You will face with them sooner or later so don't worry
There is no escape 😄
Stop asking and play the game so simple
No, bro, you're a good guy and good explainer
And the Wiki about the game will spoil your Stalker experience
So I should not read information/wiki about S.T.A.L.K.E.R before finishing the game?
Yes indeed
Do not read anything on Wiki about the game for the best experience
Experience and see it all live in the field
Thank you, but it really haunts me and I will get heart attack (no, it's getting jumpscared)
Learning about faction is fun
You're gonna have a lifetime getting jumpscared..
I advise you prepare yourself
I'm sure you will have a heart attack once you face with the Controller 😄 @wheat osprey
But I'll not give you any spoiler about it
Do not read anything just play!
Has anybody gotten an email on NA PC preorders?
We ain't getting it anytime soon
i preordered mine on steam already
lmao, game aint comin out till sept (hopefully)
any news on stalker 2?
Nah
damn
I've heard there was some kind of a Microsoft event coming about broadening some of their games to PS5 too. Any thought about S2 ?
We have to wait a few months for some news, it's tradition 
Could be on there tbh. There were articles (granted they are old) that were talking about stalker 2 coming to play station
No gameplay I bet but some news
Yep i have the same opinion.
It could be a great news for Stalker 2's reception on release.
Sure
According to BBC news hosts, presently we have no news
Lovely art
Big black…
cox

it was a long sleep brother
Hi bros
that you are right
Hello, Matt.
It's temporary.
How are you guys
Doing good. You?
Just woke up from a years-long coma.
Feels a bit like it haha
I WAS ATTACKED WHILE IN STOC 
I'VE GOT HIT FROM BACK BY AN UNKNOWN GUY 
IT DIDN'T HURT BUT I GOT TIRED 
WHEN I WOKE UP 
I SAW MYSELF WITH LONERS 
"BROTHERMAN, WHO WAS THAT GUY !" 
HOW IN THE HELL WOULD I KNOW WHO HE WAS? 
I DON'T KNOW WHICH FACTION WAS HE FROM , BUT I CAN TELL HE IS HELPESS TO THEM" 
TAKE THE BEER MOZI , WE ARE STILL ALIVE 
OVER AND OUT 
i feel great 
T'was the spirit
Original copypasta, t'is the way to go brotherman
Keep it in style
thanks bro
I WAS ATTACKED WHILE IN STOC 
I'VE GOT HIT WITH A SOLID ROCK 
AND WHEN I WOKE UP 
I SAW MOLIT STANDING BESIDE ME 
"HERE, TAKE THIS CHILL PILL!" 💊
WHY IN THE HELL I WOULD NEED CHILL PILL? 
"TAKE A LOOK AROUND, YOU MUST THINK STRAIGHT" 
O P E N T H E D O O R ! 
I'M LOSING IT, MOLIT 
OVER AND OUT 
Hold on let me rock out mine 
It's no shame, mane
6 days left
Copypasta
Absolute rasta
Mad basta
JAH BLEEEEESSS
Until what ?
untill krezzin do something crazy
Awesome news !
rat monsta
What is this
I show you men a real copy pasta
GOD, THIS THEORY IS SO GOOD
HEY, WHAT IS IT?
A RELEASE DATE 
HA HA HA, SERVES US RIGHT
THANK YOU, MANY COPERS OWE YOU THEIR LIVES 
MAN, SPILL IT!
THAT'S WHY I STAY AWAY FROM ANY THEORIES 
DON'T WANT TO CATCH HYPE 
I DON'T KNOW 
BETWEEN ETERNAL PESSIMISM AND A COPING THEORY, I'D RATHER CHOOSE THE LATTER ONE 
I CAN ALMOST SEE THE BEAUTY YOU SPEAK OF
I'M NO ROOKIE TO THEORIES 
YET I WON'T THINK ABOUT THEM MUCH 
YOU CAN NEVER BE SURE OF A THEORY 
THEY SAY YOU KNOW THE RELEASE DATE 
HUSH, HUSH 
DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE RADIO?
DID YOU SEE? 
HE'S A TRUE COPER 
AND YOU?
THE SAME HOPE OVER AND OVER AGAIN 
YOU'RE THE ONE SAYING
I USED TO COPE LIKE THIS TOO BY THE WAY
OH, MONSIEUR... 
MY SINCERE APOLOGIES
CONSIDERED JOINING THE COPY PASTERS? SUITS YOU WELL, COPER
MAYBE YOU'LL EVEN MAKE YOUR OWN COPY PASTA 
BLABLABABLA 
STOP IT 
DON'T TREAT YOUR COPERS LIKE THAT 
YOU JOKE WITH HIM AFTER ALL 
IF ANYTHING, THERE IS NO COPING IN HERE
DISAGREED
DID THEY SUFFER?
YES
DAMN, THEY DIDN'T DESERVE IT 
AND THE DELAY WAS WELL DESERVED?
IT'S A SHAME YOU DELAYED SO MUCH 
I KNOW 
YOU DON'T THINK I WAS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FINISH IT?
IT COULDN'T BE DONE UNLESS WE DELAYED
BUT NOW, JUST LOOK AT IT
NO, STOC 
I'M NOT RELEASING IT BROKEN
THE GAME GAVE YOU HYPE
A NEW HYPE 
THE HYPE YOU ARE PREPARED TO RETURN IF YOU HAVE TO 
I WILL MAKE S2 THE BEST
ALWAYS 
WOW...
LOOKS LIKE GSC POSTED 
WHAT IS IT?
A RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT.
GOOD LUCK WAITING, STALKER 
I guess 
I knew you were from the start, it's ok Mr. Krizzy, your love for Stalker 2 has died
Semen
i think he is one of the few people who actually see dreams and nightmares of stalker 2 , shows the love of him to the game , lets say if the game get cancelled , he might smokes some cigars and drinks cuz of it 
I think this is the longest one yet
@silver pagoda beat me to it, noob
I can do it but Im too busy with life
One day I'll champion the title myself
I really want to get that ultimate edition but seems like it isn't available anymore
Bloodsuckers, chimeras, controllers will be my nightmare soon, but controllers looks like a bit easy to kill
waiting for my birthday so that the "grandma anomaly" can give me 3000 INR (money artefact) to preorder Stalker 2 from sidorovich (steam) 
What edition are you planning to get
Addon of the year is Clear Sky stamina regen while walking
standard i think is the lowest one
3k inr is quite a bit of money but if it is worth it i will be buying
i loved the first three
i dont know if after release, we will be able to buy the other preorder bonuses separately, like an upgrade
i'd like to experience that extra quest and other bonuses when i've saved up more money
I wish you all a good day be well
Hello. How are you?
YOU ASKED ME ABOUT STALKER 2 RELEASE DATE, REMEMBER? 
ITS A LONG WAY OFF 
DECIDED TO DROP RELEASE TRAILER AFTER TOMMYLOVE'S VIDEO? FOR REAL? 
MOL1T AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING HOW TO TROLL 100 RADS BAR DISCORD 
BUT WE CAN'T QUITE SEEM TO GET A GOOD PLAN FOR IT 
MAYBE YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT 
IT REMINDED ME THAT WE USED TO BELIEVE IN Q1 2024 
I TOOK JUST ONE AWKWARD LOOK AT THE RADIO NUMBERS AND MY WHOLE WORLD PLUNGED INTO DARKNESS 
IM SORRY, STOC 
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.... 
THAT WAS THE DAY GSC UPLOADED OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE TRAILER 
SUDDENLY, THE VOICE OF DESPAIR WAS GONE 
I FELT AS IF I WAS AWAKENING FROM A YEARS-LONG COPIUM 
AND THROUGH THE MONITOR, I SAW MOL1T POST ABOUT 5TH OF SEPTEMBER

WE HAVE A SIMPLE CHOICE 
SIT BACK, AND JUST WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 
OR TAKE A CHANCE, AND GET GSC TO RELEASE A NEW DEMO 
ONLY I DIDNT CHOOSE THAT DATE 
UNLIKE YOU 
GOD, THIS THEORY IS SO GOOD
HEY, WHAT IS IT?
A RELEASE DATE 
HA HA HA, SERVES US RIGHT
THANK YOU, MANY COPERS OWE YOU THEIR LIVES 
MAN, SPILL IT!
THAT'S WHY I STAY AWAY FROM ANY THEORIES 
DON'T WANT TO CATCH HYPE 
I DON'T KNOW 
BETWEEN ETERNAL PESSIMISM AND A COPING THEORY, I'D RATHER CHOOSE THE LATTER ONE 
I CAN ALMOST SEE THE BEAUTY YOU SPEAK OF
I'M NO ROOKIE TO THEORIES 
YET I WON'T THINK ABOUT THEM MUCH 
YOU CAN NEVER BE SURE OF A THEORY 
THEY SAY YOU KNOW THE RELEASE DATE 
HUSH, HUSH 
DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE RADIO?
DID YOU SEE? 
HE'S A TRUE COPER 
AND YOU?
THE SAME HOPE OVER AND OVER AGAIN 
YOU'RE THE ONE SAYING
I USED TO COPE LIKE THIS TOO BY THE WAY
OH, MONSIEUR... 
MY SINCERE APOLOGIES
CONSIDERED JOINING THE COPY PASTERS? SUITS YOU WELL, COPER
MAYBE YOU'LL EVEN MAKE YOUR OWN COPY PASTA 
BLABLABABLA 
STOP IT 
DON'T TREAT YOUR COPERS LIKE THAT 
YOU JOKE WITH HIM AFTER ALL 
IF ANYTHING, THERE IS NO COPING IN HERE
DISAGREED
DID THEY SUFFER?
YES
DAMN, THEY DIDN'T DESERVE IT 
AND THE DELAT WAS WELL DESERVED?
IT'S A SHAME YOU DELAYED SO MUCH 
I KNOW 
YOU DON'T THINK I WAS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FINISH IT?
IT COULDN'T BE DONE UNLESS WE DELAYED
BUT NOW, JUST LOOK AT IT
NO, STOC 
I'M NOT RELEASING IT BROKEN
THE GAME GAVE YOU HYPE
A NEW HYPE 
THE HYPE YOU ARE PREPARED TO RETURN IF YOU HAVE TO 
I WILL MAKE S2 THE BEST
ALWAYS 
WOW...
LOOKS LIKE GSC POSTED 
WHAT IS IT?
A RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT.
GOOD LUCK WAITING, STALKER 
aint gonna read this monologue

Truly "ain't gonna read alldat" moment
Hey girls 🌭 
Hey ladies
Oh yeah 
How are you?
Hello, hello
Standart 
We are getting closer to 15.2
6 days left
To the release 
Hey bro 
Hoi
wish all the g's here have a good day , wish all the p's here a good day
I too, wish everyone a good day 
Weird, I'd wish for money
How are you all doing
Wishing everyone a good day, Chad Move
Hey Stalker, come over here, lets talk business
I said come in! Don't stand there!
Don't you get it, retard?
Man, can't wait for all the catch phrases Stalker 2 will have 
Ive got a little something you may want. I was wandering around Yandar when i found this stash, in it was a gauss rifle. Anyone within 100 meters of it is as good as dead. It’s yours for just 800. What do you say?
What a nice offer!
It's been memed, yes
Matt, whatever you do, don't check bar convo rn


Listen carefully Rookie have you ever heard the story of robin hood? well you’re going to be one of the poor if you dont watch out. Sick your nose over here again and youll be crawling back to your mommy.
I fell for that scam yesterday
i easily killed all the people in the camp
but i was so annoyed when i didnt get my 800 ru back
800 RU is pocket money tbh
Money isn't an issue in SoC and CoP. Clear Sky's economy is bit harder however
CS's economy makes the game somewhat better imo
Requires you think more about what you spend your precious money on
True
Hmm is spamming the duty major shooting range games in CS a good way to farm rubles?
Oh my god! I just saw bloodsucker's white eyes in darkness in swamps! I don't know is it a bloodsucker or npc's flashlight, but it moved very fast.
After killing two renegades, I saw last renegade was aiming at somewhere in tall wheats instead of me.
I did not think about it and killed him.
When I was going to a path, then I realized I was walking to renegades base, so I walked back and I saw white eyes moved fast from far away.
I ran away in panic and it's in mid night.
(Clear sky)
The guys in black and red?
Yea
I have that fan art on my phone
still no gameplay
IIRC you have to help them with something
Now I see renegades squad are aiming gun at fields.
I used binoculars to view.
I saw something that is moving fast.
mol1t come onnnnnnnnnnnnn
Those aren't Mercenaries
What then
Attention, stalkers 📣...
...if you are looking for new music to accompany you during your adventures in the virtual and/or the real Zone...
..you have found the RIGHT PATH...
Yes, Lone in the Zone is a collection of post-apocalypse focused music, consisting of over 1️⃣ 0️⃣ 0️⃣ 0️⃣ tracks...
... so, listen and/or join the effort to help us keep the thing going here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12eVK8ItlIJyYiO4kbcIYodYwmTECvf3-X2RRxVqHmdo/edit?usp=sharing
Those guys belong to Duty
Duty sorry
Shitping 😭
ZoneArt gang
everyone be rdy
But yeah I think you need to do a quest for them
there's an exploit to get there early (you either stealth-kill them or open the door with a knife), but you're supposed to do some main quests before they let you
Oh, look who it is, the constant complainer.
I'm playing SoC if that makes a difference
We not getting some for a while sadly
Oohh okay, thanks
Does making real life "art" count as "ZoneArt" 
Can't wait for the next delay announcement 🤣
Everything is the art to some extent
Prob a lot of ppl might cancel their preorders if that happens
Mol1t, I'll mail you my Strider Good Luck charm on September 5 
best way to make money (imho) is to raid Cordon's military outpost, loot all the soldiers, put the loot in a dead body of 1 soldier and drag the body all the way to Sids bunker
*everything is art 
Is a banana taped to a wall art?
yes
you should make around 10k~ per 1 raid
especially if its from walmart
People really can't read.
The way it looks everyone who has not cancelled after the NFT thing will not cancel, cult mentality and all
No. The wall that has the banana is the art 
NFT thing got scrapped
So i should go find information about strelok in streloks groups stash
yes
I know, the fact that it was seriously considered is concerning enough
Thank you for helping me
It was a trend a bunch of games were attempting it and ppl found out it was shit
Ah yes, cult mentality 
It’s gonna be a game pass title just pick up gamepass of off cdkeys for like 4 bucks for a year and play the game
there's unique fast shooting AK in Strelok's stash
A trend to do a pyramid scheme. Yea, fast money from idiots
i mean griga junior knew what he was getting into when seriously trying to collab with nft scam company
or he didn't
the whole thing was weird 
Yes, Pre-Ordering the game is bad because of a bad idea that was scrapped anyway (Which also didn't have much to do with the actual game)
Either way it never went thru to the public. That’s like telling someone that they’re the scum of the earth cus they had a bad thought once in their life
👆
stop acting like gsc isn't a company
Another Anomaly love video?
Pre ordering is bad
Huh? All there has been done over the years with this project is just getting loads of investment moolah. There is absolutely something fishy behind the scenes since a very long time.
wdym
Money isn’t the only factor in game development
Deal with it
If you cannot, unplug your ethernet cable and destroy your RJ45 just in case
LMFAO
Yeah, cause Devlopment is free, no? 
the game is real, you can go look at the leaks, what's the trend with calling every single project "fishy"
And lying every half a year is not?
What lies?
Plus the games gonna be on gamepass it’s practically free if u get a code from cdkeys or wherever
Not that I am endorsing them 
"the game is ready and we will release it in a month, pinky swear" has been happening for years now
No bruv, what game? it doesn't exist. 
It's not like there was a literal demo toured last autumn
Ah yes, the demo nobody is allowed to see or show footage from
"Release in a Month" Yeah.. evertime they delayed it was much earlier than one month.
+Delays always happen, because problems occur.
@glossy blade Love the artwork posted under media. That is an awesome Strider portrait
I don’t like the delays either but it’s not like anyone wants to delay the game even the devs. It’s a matter of not releasing a crappy game at launch lol
Miss the zone artworks I always adore these
Yeah, the same Demo I had to argue with you and demonstrate it's real
Oh look, the only demo footage we have wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aeqq4taIfA
Got that one already
Everybody must be so confident in the project
Ive already been at the stash
nice
That's not the only footage, why speak if you don't know what you're talking about?
Just didnt get the infos regarding strelok
Show me

I also really like it, looks amazing
what's even your argument?
Because looking up on YT brings me only that
i never forgive todd howard for not playing how could you turn down playing stalker 2?
For real. I'd play it in a heartbeat
Not a lot of people are but there’s no point in crying over it
Yes, cause YT is the only source on the internet.

Because i was so confused why my screen was turning blue and i was shaking
I seen the ||russian leaks|| and those are about 1-1.5 years old and they looked decent
Stock UE5 UI, horrible feedback, "you are dead" with a stock UI5 screen,
I am still waiting
You can literally see someone playing the game, there was another video, I'm trying to find it.
UI is one of the last things that they are gonna spend time developing lol. It’s not the biggest priority
Their biggest priority id say is optimization and technical work
Making sure the game looks as advertised to a certain degree
Cool, why can't we see uncut gameplay footage?
do you know anything about gamedev? UI's literally the last thing designed
Bc they are still working on it?
Because it's not ready to be shown 
I thought it was practically ready since Jan 2020?
No one said that.
people always ask that but there have been 1,5 aaa games that actually showed it pre-release 
Tapik said that
There’s no point in whining. Delay gratification just a little bit and god willing, the game will come out great and impress us. If not, oh well
U got fed some horseshit then lol
It is not about "gratification delay", it is about tegrity.
Link me then
kuro!!!!
Hello, italian man.
Things don’t always go to plan. I literally don’t know what to tell you. Nothing ever goes to plan like ever. Game development or not lol.
I just woke up, it's 15:20 lol
Sleepy bastard.
Uhm in human terms pls
3:22 PM
3:20pm?
american
Yes 
bruh
How convenient that the communication from that time period got deleted thanks to the "hack"
No one ever uses military time unless they are in the military 
Reason: Bad word usage
Or you're just full of crap.
1984
1984
*No one inside the US
You're the same guy ranting about release dates that never happened.
Or you havent been here in 2019
I’ve lived most of my life outside the us and none of us used military time lolz
Ok, so?
yeah gsc has bad inside-communication it seems, so?
the game still exists, still being developed 
Exactly
U haven’t been here since 2019 either 😭
It was an empty shell

Uhm.. yeah 
My bad, I confused covid and the war, 2021
Listen bra, ain’t no point in arguing about something we have no control over really. If GSC doesn’t want to show us gameplay til like a month before release, oh well.
idk some guy on discord said the game doesn't even exist.. sooo
I don't get what's so bad about delays, the game is being worked on and it exists, all i care and hope is that it will be good as the trilogy and satisfy me
Delays can also be good since they give more time to get a good game out 
I will stay up on September 5th and wait for the game to be released 
can't believe i got all hyped for so long and there's no game
We should host an event here lol
Isnt there some abandoned russian port of it?
gsc seemingly nuked it
Damn
Include me too 
Oh and how convenient that that sacred month keeps getting pushed away
Don’t get hyped. Hype makes someone stupid.
I don’t think they’ve ever delayed the game when it was only a month away from release
you can still download it but it's not a good port, more like proof-of-concept
They never did, yet.. CM can only communicate the actual release. 
Ok? That still doesn’t prove what u said that they delayed the game when it was only a month away from launch
Negative IQ, ok...
I don't see what's so wrong with delays, i mean can't you wait for the game to be ready or what?
Ppl got nothing else to do lol
Too true, my expectations are realistic.. i just want a detailed map, a solid story and some good gunplay, which I think we'll get
Sure they should communicate better and maybe show some more, but that's about it
If you don't like it just don't pre order it
Not the point. The point is lack of transparency in all regards to the consumers.
I’m hoping I’ll get around 60fps average on high at least
As I said, CM can only communicate the announnced released at that time. Cry about it.
i heard GTA6 doesn't exist - only seen one trailer
They can delay all they want but not say every time, we just need a bit of time to polish it UwU
i hope gunplay is absolutely terrible and non-realistic so all the tarkov players won't play 
So yea, bad business practices
Ah okay, that makes sense
What are you going to do about it either way? Just find something to do while you wait
This isn’t open development. How do u think people will react if GSC comes out and says: “hey we’re having development hell and we are struggling to get the game running properly. But hey at least we’re transparent ❤️ 🥰”
They have shown a demo as well
What do you expect them to do?
it should be more transparent tbh
Bros a business man 
When they realize they aren't making it, they set a specific time when to announce the delay.
this guy clearly bought The Day Before and this is his reaction
It has been announced a few months ago and we are far away from it's supposed release.
S2 has missed the release windows 6 times
The announcement isn't instant.
Maybe sure but maybe they don’t have anything worth while to show rn
what 6 times are you talking about lmfao
Just say "when it's done" from the start
Bruv forgot how to count.
That wasn't 6 times
Isn’t that like the opposite of what u wanted which was transparency?!
That's not how it works LMAO
How will they get any traction at all or any hype moving if they say: “oh yea we’ll get the game out one day for sure”
You cant just predict that sorta stuff
Bros forgetting they went thru COVID, and a war where they lost devs and family.
You dont just know when its gonna be finished
^
Wrong one
Yes
Exactly. This isn't rocket science
Office Fire, relocation, more 
Besides, none of us know what happens behind the curtains
And he wants them to work on auto pilot and get the game out in a month 
2021, April 2022, End of 2022, End of 2023, June 2023, q1 2024
2021, June 2023?
Good God, you must be trolling
Damn tbh that’s a little on the low side with what they went thru lol
This isn't anything official.
half of these aren't official
We got Ubisoft and Bethesda doing those numbers and no one gives a shit
Source: trust me
What even is this
Game Awards is a good source
Best source 
The only official source is GSC, and GSC only
Source: my lovely butt 
The actual Release Dates are:
-April 28, 2022
-December 8, 2022
-2023
-Q1 2024
Not really, but besides, for me they can delay all they want in order to make a masterpiece
So more than half were right and the other were rumors then?
Yes
Kuro posting anime stickers again 
"Rumors", think you meant "Made up dates"
So I am 4/6 right, like 63%, passing grade
Bro proud of a D
At least I have one
C or above muddafucka
A small one tho
Doesn't change the fact what you say is bullshit.
School was a waste of time
That GSC keep s lying? Yea that is the truth
Guys imagine how funny it would be if S2 will end up being so good that most of those so called critics will instantly forget about their criticism 
Yeah, sure buddy.
Why do gamers always obsess over insignificant shіt like release dates, "boo-hoo my vidya got delayed this is literally genocide"
there are and will be things worth criticizing GSC over, stoppppp
Lying about?
Reason: Bad word usage
Thanks Wolf
Damn Wolf giving those Ls to everyone
I would not mind that, I would appreciate it quite a bit and be pleasantly surprised in all honesty. But I would be hesitant about it up till the ending credits.
The game is totally ready, trust us UwU
according to you
The liar accussing others of lying 
ironic 
Are you in a hurry?
Furries are now banned in schools here in america lmaoo.
Actually yes, I don't have much time left on this earth
Damn bro RIP
that worked out so well for Duke Nukem eh?
red states should be cleansed with nuclear fire
natural selection working luckily
:3
Blue states should be bleached with acid
America should just do a wipe tbh
Restart the season
Too bad, you've still got to wait like anyone else in this world, you can consider doing some other stuff in the meantime
To be honest that was George's fault on changing the project every year or so. That whole thing is it's own crazy story but I am pretty sure the situation here is very different.
Yakuza 8 is great, I know.
I am sorry to hear that, but the world isn't centered around only you.
Curious as to why u have such limited time on earth @wheat gulch
Doesn't excuse the lies you tell.
Well we all deserve some transparancy
Cancer
Damn, I am sorry. 
Damn that’s tough bro. My uncle had testicular cancer and he passed a couple years ago
It's ok. I try to laugh about it
If u don’t mind what type
Sorry for your loss
Ehh he was a grumpy old bastard. I still loved him tho
I don't wanna talk about it, sorry.
Yea I understand bra. Hope for the best
Thanks
Maybe u can use that as a bargaining chip with mol1t lol they’ll get u exclusive access
While we sit and suffer
Nah, it's like going to a restaurant and saying that it's your bday for a free desert.
I hated it. I try to be discreet only for mom to blab it out. Awkward as heck..
Ok, gonna go
Cya bro
uhhh CoP?
i finished all 3 games (clear sky is the last one)
and im hungry for more stalker
play some good mods instead 
what are the good mods
honestly its time for anomaly anomaly is the reason i know about stalker
story mods in general
like the story made by modders?
you finished Clear Sky last?
yea
wtf
aha i want to continue strelok story
you should've finished Clear Sky after SoC. CoP should always be the last game to finish
3 times officially
mods that focus on having a story instead of freeplay
yea CoP definitely feels better than clear sky but there are stuffs i prefer in clear sky too
ill search for some
You can ask Vasim, he's mod expert around here
yea he helped me before
im just gonna ask when there is some technical issues tho dont want to bother him too much
spatial anomaly, wind of time are two good story mods you should try after finishing the trilogy
OGSR 
Winds of time is 
are those mods for CoP or SoC
yoo that insane do they only add the story and keep the vanilla gameplay
just download a repack 
IIRC both of them use STCOP weapon pack (old version i believe)
i'd also suggest Lost Alpha and OLR, the latter doesn't have the best translation though
and if you want a short CoP-like experience Valley of Whispers is a good choice
Incubator and Dreamcatcher are interesting too
Don't mention piracy in STOCtown
isnt Gamma and anomaly are repacks too
anomaly is a standalone freeplay mod, GAMMA is a modpack for it
anomaly is standalone and works on open x-ray iirc
so X ray is an open egine?
open X-ray is an X-ray fork
insane
what
who asked
why asked
sdalgers! why did you choose the faction
you chose? 
i can't underestimate how insane this modding scene is, there are things like OP2.2 and NLC, every big mod has a fork and a million versions, mods become platforms for other mods, a million story mods of all lengths, people revamp engines, remake alpha stalker
it's a rabbit hole, the only scene that compares would probably be morrowind's
because why not
they're just there to make $$$ from selling artifacts. none of that ideological bs
Same reason why merc faction is my second favorite
just do your task and get money
but what about >muh environment? 


and don'tcha know that unsanctioned sdalgers are subject to summary execution by the
?
and what about le Bandits
and le Reggaenades
? do we not have fun cleaning up unsavory types like
too?
Well Military is corrupt
as for Renegades they're just Walmart version of bandits, created just because player wouldn't ruin his relation with bandits (at least in the beginning of the game)
Bandits I also don't like for obvious reasons. They even had a freaking concentration camp in Clear Sky
with Free Stalkers, you never know where you stand with them. at least with the others, you either have a good feeling about it or you're at the end of the muzzle.
well yeah, there are bad and good stalkers
but honestly no one in the Zone is really "good"
I like to see the goodness in people during bad times. 
everyone is either within gray area or outright evil. Poker (expert bandit in SoC) being the main example
Even if stalker is good technically he's still a criminal according to law
goooood morning zone
yeah dude, Bandits and Renegades = shoot on sight
people who are in the Zone without permission of the government are criminals
sounds like the law is silly
arteractcels we've got work
that's why Military has orders to KoS everyone on sight
but military is also corrupt soo 
mmm moral relativism my favorite
"I'll give you 100rb to f* off" - me, to military
well Zone isn't really a place to be morally correct to begin with
have you seen the meme with ricky paying the cordon bridge guard to F off? its classic lol
You can be good like Vano but end up in a lot of trouble nonethless
I haven't but I'd love to see it. That's the kind of thing I was getting at but didn't know if it already existed
Degtyarev did him a huge favor ngl
in the zone, it's radiate or be radiated
I will radiate goodness to everyone 
Another thing about stalkers morality
When can we expect the alucard from hellsing skin in stalker 2?
Yar in Clear Sky says that some artifacts can regenerate anomalies
"Useful? Useful in our line of work means something that's gonna help you stay alive. That, or something that's gonna make your enemy dead. I'll tell you about artifacts. What's an artifact? It's a cluster of anomalous energy, kinda like a stock cube. There's also artifacts that can...err...what's that damn word...ah, right...ge-ne-ra-te anomalies! I think that's how Chekhov says it. Anyway, only problem is, once the artifact generates an anomaly it's as good as useless. The anomaly itself ain't exactly powerful nor does it last long, but it's good enough to delay someone or knock 'em off your trail altogether"
Imagine the artifacts regenerating anomalies in the big land
Good ol Uncle Yar
HEY
ASHOT
I want to go for “very enthusiastic” walks as alucard through the monolith
BRING THAT STUPID GUN OVER HERE
Bitches love canons
I love Ashot and Yars exchange and also Bandits radio
Bandits I don't like but credit where credit is due, they have a good taste in music
I guess one of the main reason why Clear Sky is my favorite game is because of atmosphere. It isn't downright depressive like SoC's
i hope stalker 2 has some of the comedic undertones that clear sky did
stalker
2
heart
of
chornobyl
Coming September 29th, 2077

@glossy blade Will certain factions be joinable in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2?
yes, the faction "Анимешники" in particular
Because the PC Gamer Article from 2021 hints at it
💀
neiii
It'll get extinct in less than 5 minutes
Hey, I'm looking for a German S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fan here for some youtube stuff 🙂
Es gibt keine Deutsche Leute hier.
Keine Deutscher 
Doch
Obwohl, ich aus der Ukraine komme
Ich habe noch Recht.
Wirklich, aber ich glaube... Du bist kein Deutscher
🇻🇳
Dein Name?
Duo. Duolingo.
Okay
What?
Would anyone be able to tell me what "weapon 5, 3" keybinds are binded too? I suspect one is probably binos and the other 4 are the 2 primary guns, bolts and pineapples but cant seem to even look for another 2 inventory slots? (CoP)
Because binos aren't an item in your inventory
It works like your knife or bolts.
Im just confused cause the game considers bolts a weapon making it very un clear what each "weapon" keybind does
Exactly my point tho cause it is important
a quarter of the 1-9 keys are listed as weapons making it unclear what exactly your pulling out with that keybind
the default binds are 2,3 are slinged guns, 4 is nade, 6 is bolt but what is 5, 1 binded too
I can't answer atm, can't remember
No problemo
5 might be detector. Or was it O? Can't remember sorry
detector has its own bind
Plus im on misery so I have to use detector key for flashlight, that has its own bind aswell too, im worried about inventory/equipment binds so to speak
But yes it is O as default
O is default key for detector
Also X is default key for sprinting 
Never really understood why default settings are so finger break-y
You'll only need binds for primary weapon, secondary weapon, bolts, binoculars and knife
Other keybinds you can safely ignore
Which is knife cause I only know to keep it in inv for harvesting mutants or putting it in a slot or quick melee key if theres one in the og series
Well knife doesn't appear in the inventory nor does it has its own slot in trilogy. Can't say anything about the mods though
Nah misery seems to stay true to van inv managment
SO in conclusion everything besides guns, bolts, pineapples are useless keybinds
And nods
Basically yes. Just primary and secondary weapons, knife, bolts and binocs
Thats pretty much it
I can understand why they would make the choice though, maybe they couldnt find anyone to translate those specific set of keybinds so they just used what they knew
I guess they wanted the player to have more choice about that matter
Pretty understandable I think
So about the multiplayer for stalker 2.
Will there be crossplatform?
We do not know yet.
Ok
seems like it.
i think some sort of PVP for it
I wish stalker 2 would have vr support
vr + bloodsuckers must be nice
Stalker 2 will have guns
??
Hey guys, im playin clear sky and the emission got me. My save (quick n auto) is from 10s before I die, so, is there a console command that makes me inmortal so I dont gotta start all over
Doesn't exist, you have soft locked the game
However
You can download a mod
Think it's called Clear Sky Complete
And it has a god menu in main menu which you can use to teleport anywhere on the map, or others levels
ok imma try that
Classic quicksave mistake, have you never played Skyrim?
Skryim at least atuosaves and you have actually viable console
You can complete every quest step by step using console commsnds
Every tiny detail
It's crazy
And the game is like, 2013?
Actually, never
guys i have a suggestion for the game but i don't think it's worthy of being put in the suggestions channel; S2 should have the trophy AKM as well or allow us to be able to recaliber some rifles and weapons into absolutely wild calibers like Trophy AKM was. we'd only be able to do it like in the late game though and it'd cost a lot to balance things out
Hello
🫵 👌
there already was a upgrade to recaliber weapons ion CoP
but Im against this
Weapons thast are recalibred should be special weapons,obtained thru special means,like they were in SoC
👆 👌
But it'd be funny and cool
Instead of finding someone else's special weapon we will be the ones to make a special weapon for someone else to find when our character either leaves the zone or dies
such weapons were also found hidden away or as quests rewards which make up better stories and are better for gating progression and have meaningful rewards
ppl dont care about the ability to rechamber weapons in CS or CoP
its an added feature
but the names of the special weapons in SoC is still in many a ppls minds
we need a trailer fr
Simple solution, allow us to rename the guns we modify as well
how will that solve anything
Bam, just solving every problem you point out
