⭐┃nospoilers_general

[trail glen]

Dude I cant believe that you just said that I had a guy say something like that to me in another server but he nevr clarified what that means or what I can do to change it can you plz help

[hidden stratus]

The issue is I assume that they have a gpu but the computer isnt using it and is bottlenecking the cpu. We want them to use the gpu instead

[trail glen]

I did mention my GPU its AMD Radeon RX 580

[hazy helm]

ho,then yhea what he said
if that doesnt work we will have to try smth else but its better to eleminate the most basic fixes

[trail glen]

Ok but now that we assumed the most likely cause what can I do so my CPU wont bottleneck everytime I laod up the game

[hidden stratus]

Look up a tutorial on youtube about how connect gpu to moniter using dp cable. Should give you a visual tutorial how to fix this

[broken latch]

did he switch it to high preformance (if he has a gpu it will say the gpus name on high preformance)

[hidden stratus]

The default is let windows decide and it will always put it to high performance

Unless manually changed

[hazy helm]

turn down graphical settings,but as a general rule you really cant bring it down that much

as I said

if you have problems with anomaly,best to askl in their servers

but we are ahppy to help with any PC Problem

[broken latch]

would you fund my 1k euro laptop?

[hidden stratus]

The issue is that the pc is not using the gpu but integrated graphics

I assume

[hazy helm]

I will give you tips

[broken latch]

any good store besides amazon in eu? preferably in croatia/italy

[hazy helm]

local stores or from neighboring countries,and your local second hand website of choice

[hidden stratus]

You are missing out, here in US we got microcenter

[broken latch]

not my fault im born in battle royal part of eu

[broken latch]

local stores and malls have higher prices

[gaunt burrow]

Where are we landing Addeicy?

[earnest bear]

There should be some retailers that sell Hardware part's

[hidden stratus]

Got a ryzen 7 7700x, 32g ram and pro b650p wifi motherboard for 300. You should check if they do shipping

[broken latch]

to tilted towers (sarajevo)

[gaunt burrow]

[hazy helm]

I mean online stores,and local chains also are good

especiually if you can butter up the owner

[broken latch]

most of online stores are the said malls that mark up prices

or scams

[earnest bear]

Amazon is fighting a war with temo it seams
They have the lowest prices on a lot of Things

But they also sell chiplees GPUs on Amazon
Basically there is Nothing between cooler and pcb

[hidden stratus]

never buy from temu

those things are cheap for a reason

[earnest bear]

Yea temo is just terrible in every metric
Wehn wish ,amazon and coinmaster have a child

[woven snow]

i remember seeing on youtube a bug from stalker beta that had a vehicle go spinning so much the game crashed hard, anyone know if it's still up?

[broken latch]

That car mod is in almost every mod

[woven snow]

never seen the car mod

[sand fiber]

could be any video tbh

any keywords?

[woven snow]

stalker 2004 beta

(hopefully), don't remember any keywords tbh but likely along those lines

[silver pagoda]

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT STALKER 2 RELEASE DATE, REMEMBER?
ITS A LONG WAY OFF
DECIDED TO DROP RELEASE TRAILER AFTER TOMMYLOVE'S VIDEO? FOR REAL?
MOL1T AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING HOW TO TROLL 100 RADS BAR DISCORD
BUT WE CAN'T QUITE SEEM TO GET A GOOD PLAN FOR IT
MAYBE YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT
IT REMINDED ME THAT WE USED TO BELIEVE IN Q1 2024
I TOOK JUST ONE AWKWARD LOOK AT THE RADIO NUMBERS AND MY WHOLE WORLD PLUNGED INTO DARKNESS
IM SORRY, STOC
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....
THAT WAS THE DAY GSC UPLOADED OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE TRAILER
SUDDENLY, THE VOICE OF DESPAIR WAS GONE
I FELT AS IF I WAS AWAKENING FROM A YEARS-LONG COPIUM
AND THROUGH THE MONITOR, I SAW MOL1T POST ABOUT 5TH OF SEPTEMBER
WE HAVE A SIMPLE CHOICE
SIT BACK, AND JUST WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER
OR TAKE A CHANCE, AND GET GSC TO RELEASE A NEW DEMO
ONLY I DIDNT CHOOSE THAT DATE
UNLIKE YOU

[crisp ruin]

ofc YET AGAIN

[broken latch]

Pls don't make them this long

[crisp ruin]

I cannot believe that Stalker GAMMA server has that jermasus emoji

[worthy lagoon]

the longer the better

[crisp ruin]

that's ain't ferrari, that's Lada lmao

[broken latch]

But wouldn't that make it spam/flood?

Don't be racist towards #🤨┃stalker_memes

[half bone]

a

[crisp ruin]

a

[fresh fiber]

Then 1080p 60fps lol

10 ain't good

[worthy lagoon]

he's not spamming it

and flooding isn't really a thing on discord, as long as it's not spam or something repetitive it's fine

[keen rune]

Day 3891, with no hope in sight that Stalker 2 will arrive this year, I can only hope for the next generation to experience this, everyone is gone, the ground is melting, food and water ran out 5 days ago, we are slowly dying, as my last log, I'll be leaving my Loner patch in these coordinates: (Kopachi Village), this is Mr. M, signing off

[hidden stratus]

Have you guys seen that meme in the announcement thread

[gaunt burrow]

Lmfao

Based Tampico

[fresh zephyr]

whats the name of the machine gunner in CS?

[gaunt burrow]

His name is randomized, but his meme name is Vova Vist

[fresh zephyr]

thanks

[wet mauve]

anyone know if the ultimate edition on amazon is the disc only version? or if it comes with a download code? as i dont have a disc drive in my computer

[keen rune]

Download code, games these days have a download code as it's a code directly from Steam.

[wet mauve]

sweet, thanks! 🙂

[waxen tendon]

Do we know if we’re able to fully choose our own path. Like if you want to do a diplomatic run where you talk your way out of stuff (if you have enough reputation) or something

[weary helm]

Yeah! Lets keep delaying this game too! Follow the trend devs!

[toxic vector]

Avowed, the Skyrim 1.5 also release in autumn. I hope Stalker 2 release before that game

[tawny flume]

Since this game is for consoles will mods be supported for consoles to

[hidden stratus]

highly doubt it, devs have said before that the game will have full mod support but I doubt they will bring mods to consoles.

and stalker is not a rpg so I doubt it will have those fallout elements

[toxic vector]

Stalker is actually an RPG without traditional RPG elements

you have build for weapon

build for armors

and artifacts

you can talk and trade with npc

[tawny flume]

If Microsoft approves it should be fine

[hidden stratus]

It is a first person shooter and those 'elements' are basic and obvious mechanics every game has, Crafting system and the ability to talk to npcs is not exclusive to rpgs nor has been known to come from rpgs in general. And whats an open world game if you cannot interact with it?

I would say non traditional rpg elements would be things like leveling up and a perk system. But really anything can be an rpg element if you keep calling it that.

[toxic vector]

not many other FPS games are like Stalker franchise

and stalker franchise is among first FPS games using those mechanics

which FPS games have more rpg elements than Stalker clear sky in 2008?

[waxen tendon]

Went Schizo mode mb

[hidden stratus]

Say what you wanted to say, thats why we are discussing this in the first place

[waxen tendon]

Misread it, I thought you were arguing that stalker isn’t an rpg game

[hidden stratus]

Its not, it is a fps.

[waxen tendon]

You tweakin

Not every rpg is isometric or 3rd person

[hidden stratus]

My point was that the ability to talk to npcs and craft does not define a game into a rpg.

[waxen tendon]

The best rpg games are also first person

[waxen tendon]

It’s realism, there’s no stats if that’s what you’re talking about. Stalker isn’t lame like that you can’t improve yourself without getting better equipment.

[hidden stratus]

Watchdogs, you can talk to npcs, craft and buy and yet it is the furthest thing away from an rpg. Red Dead Redemption, RE, etc

[waxen tendon]

Wait what’s your definition of an RPG

I see if you’re arguing because you can’t make a character yes there’s that, but that in itself doesn’t make it not an RPG

Cause if that’s what you’re talking about then anomaly would be an RPG because you can kind of create your character

[hidden stratus]

No my argument was that common mechanics like talking to npcs and crafting does not define a game into a rpg

You see things like that everywhere

Usually rpgs share 3 things, a level system which incorporte a skill/perk system. a diverse set of roles that define your character and a crafting system that affects your playstyle

[waxen tendon]

Again what defines an RPG then

[hidden stratus]

Stalker has these things but not to that reach.

[waxen tendon]

I would argue that stalker has a leveling system with the repetition

[toxic vector]

stalker may be the first FPS uses quest system like an RPG

and semi open world

[waxen tendon]

Morrowind

[toxic vector]

Morrowind doesnt have guns, we cant call it a shooter game

[hidden stratus]

dont remember guns being in morrowind

[waxen tendon]

So then what would you call

Just a first person game

[toxic vector]

First person view RPG

[waxen tendon]

Ok so then how is stalker just an FPS and not an RPG or an FPSRPG

Like genuine question

[toxic vector]

stalker will be a RPG shooter

[solid dome]

Seeing more people think it comes on a physical disk worries me seriously

[waxen tendon]

What about the first person part?

[solid dome]

We're in the digital age for ages and people dont know?!

Nuke the gaming industry fr

[hidden stratus]

Either way you can argue that Stalker has those 3 things to a basic level that does not take away from the main two points of the game, the gameplay and the story and does not extend those 3 things to a point where they are actual gameplay mechanics

[hidden stratus]

they got grandma computers

[toxic vector]

First person role playing shooter game? maybe this is most accurate way to call this genre

[hidden stratus]

Fallout is a perfect example of a FPSRPG

[hidden stratus]

i guess you play different roles/factions in the three games

[toxic vector]

but fallout vanilla doesnt come with realism

[waxen tendon]

Would it just be better to call stalker it’s own thing because there really isn’t anything comparable to all that it has

[hidden stratus]

You dont need realism in a fps, you are thinking of cod

[toxic vector]

well, COD is a mix between realism and arcade

[waxen tendon]

What about squad and arma and stuff like that

[hidden stratus]

The arcade part is just the multiplayer

[toxic vector]

COD uses realistic animation and effect on gun but uses casual stats for guns

[hidden stratus]

never played them

[waxen tendon]

I feel like realism and fps work really well

[toxic vector]

realistic stats for guns can make the game boring

[waxen tendon]

Not if it’s in the right game

[toxic vector]

like half of it is better

[hidden stratus]

They do but a fps itself does not require realism to call it a fps, like they said cod is an fps, has realism and arcade. By definition an fps is simply just a first person shooter, a broad genre

[toxic vector]

i like arma but the movement feels so clunky

that is why COD is still one of most popular FPS games

[toxic vector]

For me, Fallout 4 and next 2 games are disaster

gunplay are outdated

graphics looks cartoony

writing are bad

3 and New vegas are ok

3 and New Vegas doesnt have good gunplay but they are still not too outdated

[hidden stratus]

Ive only played them to a extent

[tawny flume]

Is the pc version demanding

[half cedar]

226 days 12 hours and 15 minutes! Time flies on weekends. Felt like 228 just 2 days ago

[solid dome]

7 and a half months of PURE SILENCE

Well played, GSC. Fantastic news.

[half cedar]

Means they're still tryna develop the game, right? Gotta let em do that development

[solid dome]

Oh gotta cook but...

[half cedar]

UwU Silly GSC with their 15 different release dates Haha OwO

[solid dome]

BUT THE SMELL...

Its all over the place

Fresh baked bread and we can't even taste?

[half cedar]

Yea, feels like they making fleshie stew

[half cedar]

NOoooo nononono that might be a farse, the trailers could be tuned in-game settings that we won't have

[solid dome]

Oh boy, funk the whole thing, I'll go sleep hopefully I wake up in Wayne's World

continues to curse

hits the mfken desk

Off to the mfkin bed

Wake me up when September ends

[half cedar]

I'll wake you on the 11th

[finite dragon]

hello. how are you?

[hidden stratus]

I wonder what the game I pre-ordered looks like

[half cedar]

It looks like what you imagined until it releases 🙂

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[loud gate]

[finite dragon]

Hai

[gaunt burrow]

I too wish you a good day. Be well

[granite coral]

Hi Ranjid's Ghost

[gaunt burrow]

Hello Alper

[granite coral]

Hey Matt

How many days left to the release from now?

It was 229 if I'm not wrong lol

[half cedar]

226

I tell ya, time flies when you're not at work

[granite coral]

226 hımm 👍

That means on the next week

[loud gate]

Hello guys

[granite coral]

Hey my Dear aunt

[loud gate]

Hello @gaunt burrow @granite coral

[loud gate]

Hello my lady

[granite coral]

[loud gate]

Waiting for s2

[granite coral]

Not me 😜

[silver pagoda]

COME TO ME
AFTER YEARS OF WORK
A GROUP OF SCIENTISTS MANAGED TO TAP INTO......
THE NOOSPHERE
THE EARTHS INFORMATIONAL FIELD
AN ACHIEVEMENT COMPARABLE AT BEST TO THE CONQUEST OF SPACE
DIED IN AN ANOMALY MOD
SHOT BY LONERS
FOUND WITH A STONE AROUND HIS NECK
THROWN OFF A CLIFF
TORN APART BY DOGS
YOU CANNOT KILL GOD
JUST AS YOU CANNOT GET RID OF THE SKY UP ABOVE
I AM BLIND
BUT IT IS YOU, WHO CANNOT SEE

[granite coral]

Come to me my love

7 months left 😘

[crisp ruin]

@granite coral are u Turk?

[granite coral]

Yup

[crisp ruin]

Anladım knk

Zaten isim belirtti

[granite coral]

Vay naber knk

[crisp ruin]

iyilik sen?

[granite coral]

Nolsun valla S2 yi bekliyoruz ezelden beri

Dalağım şişti beklemekten

Yaklaşık 7.5 ay sonra işkence bitecek İnş

[crisp ruin]

Anladım knk, bende yaptığım 2 pre-order (Cyberpunk 2077 ve Starfield) olayından sonra ben oyunu görerek almayı bekliyorum. Direk dalmamak lazım

[granite coral]

Zam gelmeden önce Ultimate Edition aldım 600 liraya hemde

[crisp ruin]

[granite coral]

[crisp ruin]

nerelisin

[granite coral]

İstanbul

[crisp ruin]

[granite coral]

Sen?

[crisp ruin]

Rize, ama istanbuldayım

[granite coral]

Hmm güzel 👍

[silver pagoda]

i count down to dragons dogma 2 release, its closer

[granite coral]

It seems it is a good game

[silver pagoda]

10/10

alper where are you from brotherman

[granite coral]

Let's predict

[silver pagoda]

germany

[granite coral]

Below

[silver pagoda]

umm, switzerland?

[granite coral]

It is close to you

[silver pagoda]

mfer you typed in german letters, its either sw or austria

[granite coral]

It was Turkish

[silver pagoda]

no wayyyyyy dude, you are my neighbor?

[granite coral]

Yup

[silver pagoda]

salam aleykum

[granite coral]

Merhaba is much better for me

Merhaba is like Hello

[silver pagoda]

i dont know what that is

[crisp ruin]

lemme guess... Bulgarian?

[granite coral]

Merhaba == Hello

Selam == Hi

[silver pagoda]

Merhaba broderman

[granite coral]

Merhaba my dear darling

[silver pagoda]

@granite coral brotherman you wanna join a cool server? we try to get in many balkan people and transform it from american to south EU

[granite coral]

Sure but why you want to transfer them?

[silver pagoda]

because balkan people are master race why else

all jokes aside, its stalker based with people from here

[granite coral]

Oh yeah baby

[rocky shadow]

[silver pagoda]

i sent you

[rocky shadow]

im from czech and im now officialy Balkan too thanks to Sektoras

[silver pagoda]

'general chat' is the channel that is most active

[granite coral]

Yup I want to join

[granite coral]

Nice country 👍

[silver pagoda]

i sent you an inv

[rocky shadow]

thanks

beer country

[silver pagoda]

@granite coral did you receive?

[granite coral]

Oh my 😄

[rocky shadow]

we live for it

[obtuse nacelle]

tbh i love it like main characters death is too close to ma heart

oki sir anything new in the north?

[broken latch]

I'm in

[obtuse nacelle]

i think me only one from subcontinent here

anyone from india,pakistan,bangladash?

[gaunt burrow]

Hi bro

[loud gate]

Hello

[obtuse nacelle]

yoo

[toxic vector]

the combat in trailer looks just like DD1 with updated graphics

[silver pagoda]

exactly, which is the greatest thing ever

[granite coral]

hmm nice

[obtuse nacelle]

stalker global warfare 30 factions has anyone tried it? should i try it?

[hardy bear]

Never heard of it

[opaque parrot]

Me neither, I only know of faction wars mod

[obtuse nacelle]

me also just saw it on youtube it had 30 factions its a mod for call of chernobyl

it doesn't have a story so i don't think its worth trying its like stalker anomaly with bunch of different location faction but poor graphics and and warfare mod

[hardy bear]

Try it out if you want I guess, just make sure to back up your saves and old modded state so you don’t lose anything else

[obtuse nacelle]

nope i don't wanna try it i love stalker for its stories that game doesn't have a story and who the heck plays call of chernobyl

[hardy bear]

I remember hearing about coc a fair bit a few years back, haven’t touched it myself

Although saying that, I’m also on the lookout for some mods with more unique stories to tell :/

[obtuse nacelle]

yeah it was stalker anomaly before real stalker anomaly did but its worst version of stalker anomaly

[hardy bear]

I know nothing about coc’s design so I cant compare them yet

[obtuse nacelle]

same mate leme also know if you find i have tried lost alpha,true stalker.incubator,anothology, gold sphere,gunlister,now trying radiophobia after that i think black nature winter

[hardy bear]

Is CoC another freeplay mod?

[obtuse nacelle]

yeah same stalker anomaly just poor graphics and 0 story stalker anomaly did have 3 chapter coc has non

[gaunt burrow]

Nice CoC

k

[obtuse nacelle]

freeplay mate not story poor graphics why won't i try anomaly

if i wanna play freeplay

[hardy bear]

It was a joke

[obtuse nacelle]

k mate lemme know if you find a story mod

[hardy bear]

Might ask around on Reddit

Or here once the other folks wake up

[obtuse nacelle]

k black nature winter someone recommanded here

[hazy helm]

There are many story mods out there
I know more if you want

[hardy bear]

Go for it

[hazy helm]

Calm after the Storm
Wind of Time
Valley of Whispers
Return to the Zone
Spatial Anomaly
GLOBAL MODS
NA7
OGSR

NA7 is pretty schizophrenic so you need a bit of persistence

But the rest should be beginner friendly (to those not in the know about mods)

[loud gate]

Wind of time my beloved

[static drum]

what is the hype about mods, really?

[loud gate]

I mean, why not? Mods are cool

[hazy helm]

What is the hype about new games, really?

[slender crown]

skibidi toilet mod

[hazy helm]

They are new experiences made by community members

[obtuse nacelle]

these all are in anthology mod

anothology mod contains lots of stories and add them into stalker anomaly

[hazy helm]

If you want to have an awful and inferior experience
Yes

Anthology is only good as a proof of concept

[obtuse nacelle]

yeah i had a bad time with anothology but they said game crash and bugs got fixed

[hazy helm]

its never going to be good
merely bc there are so many moving pieces in anomaly and anthology and those modpacks that makes bug testing and playing the stories obtuse,support for them is hard and youll have a worse experience than had you just played the mods themselves

tho I heavely doubt that Anthology has RTTZ,OGSR or NA7

[obtuse nacelle]

agreed but only problem i saw that other story mod it used had a problem when in a sence our friend got pinned by a controller in lab but controller didn't even spawned in lap i checked pda it spawned in cnpp when i killed it and talked to our friend game just crashed

i used cheats to kill the controller cause no way to cnpp without that lab

[hardy bear]

Sounds good. Heard spatial anomaly only came out recently. How is it?

[obtuse nacelle]

i saved your list in notepad i will try them all

[obtuse nacelle]

its good tbh i tried it in anthology mod

[hazy helm]

Spatial Anomaly is a 2017 mod

[hardy bear]

What was it I saw then 🤨

[obtuse nacelle]

but i didn't get to end it cause anotholog doesn't spawn the zombie who was a stalker

[obtuse nacelle]

only true stalker came recently

[hazy helm]

True Stalker is pretty mid a mod

[hardy bear]

Must have it confused with that one

Well either way I’ll look into them a bit more

[obtuse nacelle]

story was good specially with plot twist when we found our 1st main character axe hanging from bridge

[opaque parrot]

I like it but I'm tired af running around

[hazy helm]

the plot twist was pure trash garbage

which is why the story is mid

the side stories are good when they arent kojima pretentiousness

[opaque parrot]

But I guess I haven't even done 5% of the story, I've just finished the lab mission in Dark Valley

[hazy helm]

and the gameplay is only bearable with bad gunfights due to Gunslinger

[opaque parrot]

Gunfights are meh

[hazy helm]

I swear to god everytime they introduce gunslinger into smth they fuck up its gunfights bc gunsliger is an awful gun pack for fast paced actions

[hardy bear]

I assumed gunslinger was just a visual thing, what else does it change?

[obtuse nacelle]

agreed who tf think we can kill a controller if we can't even aim at him

[opaque parrot]

Literally takes years to reload in a heated battle, then I suddenly catch a stray bullet behind cover and have to use a bandage while I'm on 1hp left

I die ofc because of the reload...

[obtuse nacelle]

if someone says they should create gunslinger for stalker 2 fliping poison him xd

[opaque parrot]

I have solid armor, nice AK and stuff, but no, a single bullet takes most of my HP lmao

[hazy helm]

its a very buggy script loaded gun pack
if you sprint and then suddenly stop and aim you have to wiat a solid 1.5 seconds for the animation to stop running to finish and the animation for aim to finish

[opaque parrot]

I dunno if EFP uses Gunslinger tho
That mod was good

[hazy helm]

its clunky

and awful to use

the biggest problem GA has,is that is assigns a animation to every action thru scripting

[hardy bear]

Does it fundementally change much of the combat mechanics or are the issues mostly down to the animations?

[hazy helm]

the first

[hardy bear]

In what ways

[opaque parrot]

Agree

[hazy helm]

bc of the weighted down movement,the exponentiannly more bullshit enemies,the turtle speed reloads and the clunky animation scripts you are going to be hugging a wall and snipping ppl from 300 meters away bc CQC combat is downright trash

[opaque parrot]

Does the Gunslinger also make you move slower or is it just mod scripting in general?

[hazy helm]

ho no I caught a stray 9x19,guess Im gonna have to run away and use a 3 second consumable bc cool animation amirite

[hazy helm]

p sure its just some actor.ltx changes

[opaque parrot]

Makes more sense

[static drum]

mods are not no new games

[hardy bear]

Oh I see, one of those ones that aim to slow gunplay down

[hazy helm]

they are new experiences,new perspectives and new campaigns
and by that I mean things like NA7
NLC7
OGSR
ST2
RTTZ

all of these are in their own right something completely personal and different from stalker

[opaque parrot]

I wonder if we can use that faster animations addon in these mods tho...

[hazy helm]

it is a creation of their own maker and breathes a new experience for the player

[opaque parrot]

To speed things up

[hazy helm]

you can have slow gunplay thats still satisfying
gunslinger is just a bad gunplay mod

[static drum]

like that, of course.
new content and all

by the way, what mod should I play first, if never played mods before?

[hardy bear]

Oh yeah, asked the other day but I don’t think I got a response. How’s OGSR? Genuinely all I’ve seen of it are the ‘OGSR experience’ vids :/

[hazy helm]

play a calm mod like Spatial Anomaly or Calm after the Storm
they ease you into the things
then you can play more involved stuff like RTTZ or Winds of Time or OGSR
if you want to go with a strong experience from the start go with NA7 its a very fun schizo mod with the best gunplay Ive played in mods

[static drum]

I hear people complaining about a mod named misery
is it worth it?

[hazy helm]

it aint

[static drum]

too B of a difficulty to deal with?

[sturdy zodiac]

Valley of Whispers too

just as another mod to consider

[hazy helm]

no its merely a bad mod with loads of bloat and dead end mechanics that doesnt justify the issues it brings to the table and instead destabalizes the balancing its predecessor had

[static drum]

noted ...

[worthy lagoon]

Duh

[finite dragon]

Misery 2.0 was a groundbreaking mod and it's very important to the history of Stalker modding. It basically laid the groundwork for future western mods.

[tropic holly]

I have S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Call of Prypiat 1.6.02
I installed it long ago. But now want to play again. I started a new game. What I really dislike is shaking head to sides. it makes me dizzy. How to stop this silly effect? Are there any hacks? For example effectors.ltx with some properties? And where to put it?

[hazy helm]

If you mean it was groundbreaking in ruining the state of survival mods as a whole yes I do agree with you on that point
Mods nowadays love ignoring the good parts of misery and implementing the bad ones

Misery 1.0 looks like a much more well out together experience

And do you wanna know a mod that nailed the survival part Misery 2.0 failed at?
Autumn Aurora

Which was inspired by Misery 1.0

[finite dragon]

Those are rebalance mods, not total conversions like Misery

[hazy helm]

Autumn Aurora is a Total Conversion

So is Misery 1.0

[finite dragon]

They are both texture packs with edited config files

[hazy helm]

Ma man

Lmao

Lol

[gilded sentinel]

Dont forget new OLR

[hazy helm]

What

Wdym

WTF HAVE THEY DONE TO OLR

[gilded sentinel]

new oblivion lost is buzzin

[finite dragon]

OLR 3.0, the mod that will suffer the same fate as NLC 7 - bad machine translation at first, better machine translation later, then no handmade translation

[hazy helm]

hey,I'm trying real hard with the new moddb page for NLC7

Translation is basically done
We are fixing bugs and quirks Ans finishing up on translating images

I wish MODDB description boxes were easier to wrangle

[finite dragon]

Tell me, @hazy helm, I'm a bit out of the loop with the translation scene, are there any actual human translators left in the community or is it just people putting stuff into deepL or GPT, then editing it a bit?

[finite dragon]

Write custom CSS and ask the moddb admins to add it

[gilded sentinel]

youre speaking to one rn

[finite dragon]

Oh cool, what you working on?

[hazy helm]

yes there are
And we are having natives proof read our NLC7 scripts and xmls

[finite dragon]

Not meaning to insult, really happy someone still doing quality stuff

[gilded sentinel]

oh well, guess two

[hazy helm]

To make sure that quality and accuracy are maintained

[gilded sentinel]

but last time i worked was like 3 years ago

youre translating smth right @hazy helm ?

[hazy helm]

Custom CSS is easy
The description box keeps wiping my perfectly fine CSS upon applying for some reason
I can't even apply margins to make sure it's in the correct position this withing the description box

Otherwise it's easy just css

[finite dragon]

Eh, better hand off the final pass to someone with a good grasp of English. In my experience, they do a better job and avoid russisms.

[hazy helm]

They have at least a C1 on English

They are deeply ingrained in the eng and Eastern side of stalker

[finite dragon]

Holy crap, you hit the jackpot alright

[hazy helm]

We are having a lot of care in this NLC7 translation
Thus my want to make the best custom moddb page

But man

The CSS for the desc box

[finite dragon]

Thank goodness NLC 7 will get the love it deserves.

Build 3.0 right?

[hazy helm]

Build 3.0 Hard Edition 2.3 latest update

Ironing issues out with Kots add-ons

Otherwise it's in beta rn

[finite dragon]

Hard Edition? Eh, would be great if the original Build 3.0 got the translation

Just port it, texts are 95% the same

[hazy helm]

Could do but Im focusing on NLC7 for the time being

[finite dragon]

Build 3.7 would be nice as well, only doc_dialogs would need to be fully retranslated, but it's around the length of sak_strings so it will take a while

[hazy helm]

I do have a deep dislike for anything after build 3.0

Especially 3.8 Ans 3.9

[finite dragon]

Don't blame you. It really got bad. But it would be cool if the entire series gets translated.

[hazy helm]

You can ask any of the boys in the TL team but for myself,after finishing HE and porting to 3.0 I'll be working on other project
Namely,Secret Trails 2 before the Gunslinger integration and TFWR

[tropic holly]

What to do in Call of Prypiat that screen view would not shake as I walk?

[finite dragon]

Eh, I'll let the team decide, if no one does it, I'll do it. Not that big of a deal, just a pain in the ass to check the differences between the versions of the mod and then adapting whatever changes there are

[loud gate]

@quartz snow NLC7 Mentioned

[quartz snow]

Based

[loud gate]

[patent cargo]

Hello stalker

[somber comet]

Kill The Strelok

[chilly edge]

the translation of mods are hard? I was thinking about translating some of these mods into Brazilian Portuguese and even Spanish

[hazy helm]

translating anything is p hard,especially any eastern language since many places use country and region specific slang as well as modes of talk and words that have no equivelant in english or other languages
youll need to checka nd recheck
its fine if the mod youre translating only has like 5k lines and you can re-use the original games files but for big projects (biggest Ive done alone was 33k completely new lines) it is a big time commitment

[finite dragon]

They’re easy, just very tedious. You’ll sit for hundreds of hours working on the translations.

[sand fiber]

y'all should learn from russian pirate translators who were able to complete the job in less than a week

[chilly edge]

yeah for now i'm learning both Russian and Ukrainian language. It's not difficult to learn, but the problem is that it's very difficult to find good Russian/Ukrainian teachers who speak Brazilian Portuguese very well, and this sucks tbh. When I improve my reading in Russian, I plan to start translating some of those slav mods. I could even start with some mods that are in English, but most mods are machine translated, and I'm not yet fluent in English, I just know a few things but nothing more.

[patent cargo]

Why would you do that?

[opaque parrot]

Find Strelok

[amber zealot]

Feel you ,I also have to learn Ukrainian over English instead of my native language. Theres just much more ressources available in English.

[opaque parrot]

I remember my first SoC playthrough, I literally went over all maps looking for Strelok until I literally by accident just stumbled upon the mission to meet with Doctor

[broken latch]

I was never actively looking for strelok, just going where mission told me to go lol

[gaunt burrow]

How to kill Strelok: just die by someone or something

Game completed

[finite dragon]

Just Remade an old video of mine.
The Bandit camping guide

But this time I lost my sanity halfway through and became a vegetable

[honest bridge]

Veggie yummy

[finite dragon]

I am not fit for consumption.

[worthy lagoon]

Your opinion

[half cedar]

Opinion denied. Consume the protein

[honest bridge]

More like vitamins and mineral salts, cuz she turned into a veggie

[somber comet]

Cash Money Moolah🤑🤑🤑

[patent cargo]

You need yisus, my friend. Arifacts are the only thing that can bring you money

[finite dragon]

Indeed.
Get as mamy artifacts as you can and gimme, I will give you big roubles

[patent cargo]

What about med kits, do you have some?

[honest bridge]

doubt

[finite dragon]

Yeesyees I do

[patent cargo]

How much?

[granite mortar]

Machine translation is good these days. People usually just correct inconsistencies in it instead of actually translating

[wise blaze]

is it september yet

[crisp ruin]

no.

[solid dome]

@glossy blade

[amber tendon]

Is it september yet

[old jungle]

soon

[crisp ruin]

Always that Witcher meme comes out in my find lmao

[gaunt burrow]

Is it September yet

[finite dragon]

Yo guys my friend has a question will stalker 2 be rtx only?

[granite mortar]

Why would it be rtx only? When its supposed to run on gpus that dont have rtx

[finite dragon]

4 normal medkits, 3 scientific medkit and 1 army medkit, restock every 12 hours.

[granite coral]

is it september yet...

[old jungle]

a bit of patience, it will come

[loud gate]

Patience sis

[granite coral]

More vodka then

[old jungle]

Use this time to stop drinking

[loud gate]

nevahh

[granite coral]

More pizza then

[solid dome]

Molit, Pastorazzi, Culkin... WHERE ARE OUR PROMISED NEWS

[old jungle]

Hello Krezzin

[finite dragon]

defuq is that profile pic

[loud gate]

What do you want Bratanman

[half cedar]

Appears to be female

[crisp ruin]

[half cedar]

Probably tied to the myths of W o m e n . I personally don't believe such tales

[finite dragon]

real mozi pic

[loud gate]

Yes, bratanman

[granite coral]

He is a girl

[crisp ruin]

[finite dragon]

what

[granite coral]

Mozi is a girl 😛

[finite dragon]

make sense now

[granite coral]

But I can't prove that lol

[old jungle]

yes, we've known for some time

[granite coral]

[finite dragon]

i thought he a nerdish boy behind the pc all the time , he was a girl...damn

[finite dragon]

what up g

[crisp ruin]

[chilly edge]

wassup bro

[finite dragon]

nothing special just came outta gym

[chilly edge]

i'm finishing SoC for the 10th time till september

[solid dome]

24 days till we see 15.02 was a damn prank

[finite dragon]

u still mad?

[finite dragon]

damn

[solid dome]

Mad?

[finite dragon]

u still care?

[solid dome]

I dont have anything else to do

Besides care
Game industry is dead

[finite dragon]

i think thats a good thing tbh , personally i just wanna play stalker 2 as my last game and thats it , no more fake dopamine

[solid dome]

Exactly my feelings

Games are no more interesting

[finite dragon]

true

[solid dome]

Its waste of money and time, you have more entertainment browsing Promhub

Straight fact for one

[chilly edge]

Stop spitting facts bro, people are not prepared for this

[finite dragon]

besides the joke , stalker 2 is my last game of life , i even came to discord bcz of this server.. this fkn cycle should end at some point

[solid dome]

I'm afraid its the last thing I'll ever play yeah

Just release the damn thing already, for fck sakes

[finite dragon]

true

[old jungle]

let them cook, it will come

[granite coral]

Let them cook some meatballs yeah 🥴

Still 7 and a half months

[old jungle]

it will be quick

[solid dome]

Don't trust Anomalous on "it'll be quick"

[old jungle]

find something else interesting to do in the meantime and it will pass faster

[solid dome]

Nothing interesting by far

[worthy lagoon]

Just sleep till September

smh

it's as shrimple as that

[solid dome]

Anomalous and Kuro,

You are out of your element

[old jungle]

what do you mean?

[hidden stratus]

Ty Anomalous for that interview. We needed that badly in a time with no news, not that thats changed

[old jungle]

I did what I could

[solid dome]

What interview?

[old jungle]

the one from PGW

[loud gate]

bros, I arrive back in STOC and suddenly I'm sexy woman

ain't gonna complain

[old jungle]

[loud gate]

[tawny flume]

Can we do this in the game

[finite dragon]

idk but u can do in real life

[tawny flume]

Oh

I’m interested In the different kinds of monsters in s2

[silk sparrow]

damn people still active here

[solid dome]

Post tit pics

Twitch allows it, Discord should too

[broken latch]

Don't encourage breaking rules

[solid dome]

Who said I did?

Direct messages exist for breaking the rules

[broken latch]

DMs can still be used as proof

[solid dome]

Say what, you post something in DM and you break the rules in the server?

It's called power abuse

[broken latch]

Look at it as, someone breaks into your home and attacks you

Government's rules still apply inside your house, no?

[solid dome]

No, your own rules apply within your walls

Its why you pay taxes

[broken latch]

Debatable

[solid dome]

You saying the government can go inside your house, take a dump on your brand new thousands worth carpet and leave without any consequences?

Boy I have news to sell you

[granite coral]

How about sending nudes?

[crisp ruin]

[solid dome]

Yeah

[granite coral]

🌭

[solid dome]

I'm only accepting nudes OF THE ZONE

In her birthday suit

[granite coral]

If I tell what's on my mind, I'll definitely be banned 😏

[patent cargo]

Why would you try to egt nudes? I like the real thing

[pale pivot]

Y’all gettin a lil too thirsty while waiting for stalker 2

[crisp ruin]

[random vortex]

Thirsty for DN.

[pale pivot]

[solid dome]

Every time we come close to news...

We be delayed them news
Of course we are

[finite dragon]

omg i want nukes too it would be such a cool secret ending

Yo uknow like in dying light where the dude blows up the city?

[finite dragon]

Culkin! Kenny_Prophet! Where's the #### news?!

(nah its not up to them, they're the frontmen, everything else comes from above them, they got no free will)

[keen rune]

There's Fallout for that

[keen rune]

Check the hub, there's bound to be some if you search it up.

[solid dome]

None

Its gayness, no fairness

[silk sparrow]

some one said tits?

[keen rune]

no, krezzin was wondering where he can find the hidden files of sidorovich's harddrives

[solid dome]

Could say so

Artemida, where are our news - its been a month

/i messaged you and you said -soon-/

[keen rune]

Bribing always works, send em 20 million roubles and news will come in weeks

[hidden stratus]

Weird ass convo up there

[somber comet]

"Our Conversations are short and our rules are simple, You give us your loot and we let you go you don't give us your loot then you'll say hi to the other world"

[golden yarrow]

game has bad visuals in trailer you think it will be better upon release

[hardy bear]

The trailer visuals weren’t bad

I honestly don’t see where people think it looks bad besides the waxy bloodsucker

[keen rune]

Nah I think the only main problem was the framrate

Other than that, it looks really good, I think people were just complaning about it not being visually good as the first trailer

[somber comet]

People pls don't complain about the Stalker 2 Trailer, i won't handle another delay.

[keen rune]

That's if we get another trailer...

[solid dome]

Trash game

[earnest bear]

i highly doubt it is mostly the same or even worse (but it may or may not improve under its lifetime)
gollum manged to look worse with every new trailer

[keen rune]

It definetely can, GSC just doesn't want to show us their progress, poortime communication to the audience

[earnest bear]

"...GSC just doesn't want to show us their progress" wonder why

[hidden stratus]

The 'gameplay' trailer looks like it had raytracing off, also I heard it was a combination of console and pc clips, which some were taken off the earlier build of the demo.

We'll be fine when it comes to graphics

But im just going off the shadows and the windows.

The two clips where Skif wakes up the tree shadows, the poor reflection on the weapon he uses when he fights the bandits. Some clips look better than others so thats why I think its not from one platfrom. I think the settings were just turned down due to the poor fps.

[fiery berry]

The dog looks atrocious. The general scenery looks bad too. I mean, I’m fine with the graphics; I want solid gameplay and atmosphere but let’s not pretend it doesn’t look very bad compared to the original trailers.

[finite dragon]

cheese

[dry musk]

Who else wants STALKER 2 to have miltiplayer 🖐️

[full plank]

Hell naw

[dry musk]

You dont think itd be fun AF to play the game co-op? I should probably said co-op instead of multiplayer

[full plank]

It would remove a lot of the tension, and I think adding co-op would mean dulling down the story beats to make it a cohesive co-operative experience

At least, that's what I think

Part of the appeal to me has always been the melancholy and loneliness of the zone

[dry musk]

Fair enough, i think it would be fun, like Tarkov but with mutants, and reality bending anomalies

Ive probably commited some kind of cardinal sin, likening STALKER to Tarkov

[oblique granite]

I'll sin along with ya, I'd say it's closer to a mix of Tarkov and dayZ, sometimes haha I feel like exploring the zone might be interesting in co-op personally, I'd probably finally get my brother interested in the franchise

[rapid umbra]

stalker already has multiplayer you dunce xD

[oblique granite]

plus GSC confirmed they're gonna add it in a free update soooo, coop i mean

[dry musk]

Hell yes

Cant wait to traumatize my boyfriend in a bloodsucker lair

[naive quest]

co-op campagin with the bois would be lowkey fun

[dry musk]

I never thought about more than 2 people

[hidden stratus]

I just want to let GSC know they have my permission to drop a new trailer, sorry to everyone who has been waiting.

[normal tiger]

Agreed, the original campfire trailer set my expectations a bit too high (for GFX). Should've figured they'd have to downgrade pretty significantly for consoles to run it at 4k/30

[toxic vector]

multiplayer is a pretty good way to improve sale because COD MWIII will probably end its lifespan that time and COD Advanced Warfare is not as fun as MW title

but it will be better to come later, Singleplay is still top priority

[solid dome]

23.11.2021, 19:32, ask_gsc channel
Coop will ruin the atmosphere of loneliness and fear of exploring yourself. So there will be no coop in the game

Coop will not be officially done by GSC

It may or not come post launch, doubtful modders will be able to do it, it'll take years

Above comment still stands, @glossy blade will have to confirm

[dry musk]

Fair enough

[worthy lagoon]

@oblique granite there won't be coop in STALKER 2.

[naive moth]

Bruh

[worthy lagoon]

It would ruin the stalker experience

And it would require a lot of time

[dry musk]

I firmly believe it would be a good addition, but im not gonna ask for it if the devs dont want to add it, they're game, they're rules

[opaque parrot]

Yea nah, it would ruin it

[dry musk]

How would the existence of a Co-op mode ruin the solo experience?

I agree that if co-op were implemented there would have to be a separate story for it to work. But i dont think its an inherently bad addition

[hardy bear]

While I would like to be able to play it with friends, coop experiences tend to feel rather goofy at times, especially with how my friends take on games. Having you run through the campaign solo should make it a bit more cohesive

Although I’d be down for a sort of repeat run coop thing. That way people get the intended experience then run it through with friends

[dry musk]

I also like that idea

Buuuuuuuuuut on the other hand, i can see forcing people to play through the game solo before they CAN do it with friends as being a net loss in the long run

[hardy bear]

I know the downsides, but gsc want people to have a certain experience, and managing that in coop is a lot tougher

[dry musk]

You are correct

[hardy bear]

As you’d have to consider story triggers and synchronisation, completely redo progression and difficulty to account for multiple players, as well as ensure proper network stability

[dry musk]

AND the inherent isolation and by extension "charm" of STALKER might be lost if you remember you have backup

[hardy bear]

Exactly that

And even if we wanted it, base multiplayer is scheduled for post launch, so at the very earliest it would arrive several months after that

[rapid umbra]

it wouldn't xD thats just an excuse from GSC but its ok

one of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s biggest thematic elements, especially in Clear Sky but present in the whole trilogy, is the feeling of being with your fellow S.T.A.L.K.E.R.s, so the idea that a co-op mod would ruin the "themes" or "atmosphere" or anything like that is absurd xD

[dry musk]

What i think would be a good compromise, is youd have to really crank the difficulty to create that tension. Of course that runs the risk of being too difficult for people to have fun with. But instead of just that, maybe both player MUST work together, i cant think of an effective way for that to work currently sadly

Initially i thought restricted equipment might work but thatll probably piss people off more than anything

[rapid umbra]

I definitely want co-op in S.T.A.L.K.E.R., but it most likely isn't ever going to be added, at least to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2. If they were to do co-op, I reckon it would be best to just have co-op specific missions, maybe it's own campaign mode in some of the areas.

[hardy bear]

It’s hard to consider since balancing for both types of gameplay requires a hugely different approach.

You could crank up the difficulty, but then both players would need more meds to compensate. You could increase loot pools, but then the zone would feel too populated, you could increase enemy numbers but then camp assaults would feel absolutely huge.

For the most part that’s what they mean about the ‘intended experience’. Just that they’ve balanced the game around solo play

I reckon once multiplayer comes around someone will most likely find a way to implement coop in due time. But I don’t think it would work out as well simply because of that balance philosophy of the game so far

[rapid umbra]

I highly doubt STALKER 2 will have any kind of modding scene beyond simple graphic mods for at least a year

[dry musk]

In my head i keep thinking it wouldnt require that much extra tweaking, but i am thinking about my experiences with anomaly. Not the GSC titles

[rapid umbra]

anomaly would actually be good if it was coop or an mmo unfortunately

[dry musk]

But its free and servers cost money

[hardy bear]

Looking forward to when they release the sdk

[dry musk]

Even if you had to pay for co-op chances are it wouldn't make enough money to continuously fund servers

[rapid umbra]

the anomaly team could definitely fundraise enough to afford servers and they could also just let people do p2p server hosting

[hardy bear]

p2p would most likely be their approach if they attempted coop

[rapid umbra]

it most likely wont get any actual gameplay mods for a while. stalker 2 is a new big game on a new big engine, nobody whos modded the original trilogy will be able to mod the new game without needing to learn new procedures

[dry musk]

id hate to ask the anomaly devs to do more considering they have given us basically a AAA game for free, by themselves

[hardy bear]

That being said though, it is UE5, so while some specific details may take a little while to uncover, it being such a widely used engine I don’t feel it would take that long

[rapid umbra]

all theyve done is fork Last Day and added a bunch to it and made it look pretty xD

[hardy bear]

Half a year potentially

[rapid umbra]

it is no where near a "AAA game," thats just what youtubers say xD

[rapid umbra]

yeah maybe well get a new generation of modders. i was referring mostly to old modders moving to stalker 2 modding

[hardy bear]

In that regard, fair enough

[rapid umbra]

the english modding scene is already so weak, and a lot of the eastern europeans probably dont have the sufficient equipment for S2 modding xD

[hardy bear]

I’ve been learning first person animation for the primary reason of learning modding for s2 😬

So on one hand I’m kinda glad it’s delayed so there’s more time to practise

[rapid umbra]

oh yeah thats another thing.. standards will be higher since youre now modding a 2024 unreal engine game, not a 2000's game

[hardy bear]

Getting solid performance is going to be a pain

[dry musk]

I disagree, they combined all 3 original games maps. Pieced together a story from the cliff notes of the original STALKER 2, there's a huge selection of weapons and equipment in the base game WITHOUT MODS. And it doesnt look half bad.

Granted its absolutely not perfect... Not by a long shot, but in terms of just potential play time, id say its at least on Par with a AAA game from the early-late 2000's.

[rapid umbra]

they didnt do any of that xD

[dry musk]

My ass

[rapid umbra]

thats from the many previous iterations of Call of Chernobyl that Anomaly is based on

[hardy bear]

Wasn’t anomaly built off of misery?

[rapid umbra]

Anomaly did add the "meadows" level, though they didn't create it or anything, it's in a bunch of other freeplay mods too

[rapid umbra]

it's forked from Last Day IIRC, which is forked from Call of Misery, which is forked from Call of Chernobyl

[hardy bear]

Half right XD

[worthy lagoon]

Agroprom undergrounds

Dark Valley investigation

Red Forest

Clear Sky was kind of an exception in the peak of stalkers population due to faction wars, but as we can see in SoC and CoP it is very different and often alone aside from campfires

[rapid umbra]

Anomaly has done a lot, especially on the technical side of things, and it's technically impressive, but the things people play it for are either the result of fanmade addons FOR Anomaly, or the work of it's previous iterations (Call of Chernobyl, Last Day, etc.)

[rapid umbra]

ooooooookay

[rapid umbra]

no xD SOC and COP both share the same thematic elements, CS is jsut more prevalent in them

[hardy bear]

I get a feeling the majority of its praise comes from its visuals, people gravitate to that a lot when discussing it. Plus the exposure it got a couple years back meant people hadn’t heard of other mods

I enjoy it, but I wouldn’t consider it some holy standard

[rapid umbra]

Yes the visuals are probably it's biggest improvements on the COC formula

[dry musk]

Its definitely not a holy standard

[rapid umbra]

It's sadly just hurt the english modding scene quite a bit xD you can see it here with Jimmeny who didnt even realize it is an iteration of many other iterations of COC

[worthy lagoon]

Not really, Stalker is supposed to give the vibes of loneliness, and sometimes even doubt the trust of other people

[rapid umbra]

it fails miserably to do that in all 3 games then 😂

[worthy lagoon]

Clearly you haven't played the undergrounds back in 2008 then

[rapid umbra]

my most memorable parts of stalker is hanging out with stalkers in rostok, yanov station, cordon, etc., fighting bandits in the garbage with other stalkers, storming pripyat with duty/freedom against hte monolith

the legendary pripyat tunnels with ur crew in COP... 😂

you mustve been playing an offbrand game, i reckon xD

[worthy lagoon]

That's literally the smallest part of the story lel

[worthy lagoon]

Lmao, nah

[dry musk]

No i know of them, and i think your making assumptions about my knowledge, im only talking about anomaly rn, if we were to consider every mod, before and after we'd never stop talking about them.

[hardy bear]

Given its exposure through various content creators over the last few years I can see why. Heck, I was introduced to the series through it, but worked backwards and started the whole franchise from scratch

[rapid umbra]

but ur saying anomaly is doing things that it didnt do xD it's predecessors did

[dry musk]

If i facepalm again im gonna break my nose

[rapid umbra]

yea i think anomaly could do some things to stop noobs from being dumb and not understanding stalker and its modding community, but its not the games responsibility 🤷 we can blame larp youtubers making vids like "THIS FREE GAME IS BETTER THAN 90% OF OTHER TRIPLE A GAMES?!," "THIS FREE GAME IS TARKOV BUT WITH MUTANTS?!," etc. but more people engaging with stalker i guess

[worthy lagoon]

Can agree with that

[dry musk]

I, at no point claimed that anomaly, and the devs did ALL THE WORK. I am claiming STALKER Anomaly is on par with AAA games from the 2000's and better than a sizeable chunk of AAA games

[worthy lagoon]

What all the work tho?

[dry musk]

Anomaly is better than a lot of recent AAA games tho, you cannot disagree with me on that

[rapid umbra]

comparison is the thief of joy and it def isnt xD you just run around and do randomly given quests

[dry musk]

Predecessor mods

[rapid umbra]

it is an excellent free "game" tho

[worthy lagoon]

Which wasn't made by Anomaly modders

[dry musk]

Then we disagree

[hardy bear]

I for one cared more for the setting and story than the simply ‘murr its tarkov but singleplayer’, I was so infatuated by the setting that I gladly played the originals as soon as I got into it. Got more hours in soc than the aforementioned mods now :/

[rapid umbra]

yea its subjective but if you consider running around doing randomly generated fetch/kill quests and shooting bad guys to be better than "most AAA games", idk what to say xD

[dry musk]

God-motherfucking-damnit. I KNOW THEY DIDN'T, did you not read what i said?

[rapid umbra]

yep. It's a shame the guy who made Call Of The Zone DIED because that could've been a great freeplay mod that's more "true" to the originals but its sadly just a good COC successor now

[worthy lagoon]

"And the devs did all the work" you didn't specify the subject, which devs?

[rapid umbra]

stop being antagonistic for no reason

[worthy lagoon]

I thought you implied anomaly devs

[dry musk]

Yes, i mean the anomaly devs

[rapid umbra]

i actually cant figure out who the anomaly devs are xD the group on moddb is private

[hardy bear]

It depends a lot on what the player likes, I do like myself the emergent, sandbox nature of it, as other sandbox titles are appealing for a mostly similar reason. But it’s built solely around the idea of you making the fun and choosing what to do, which I know some people don’t like

[rapid umbra]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/valley-build-358-wip btw the custom levels that are being added to anomaly are what was needed ever since the FIRST freeplay mod (Call of Chernobyl) and if we start getting new areas with new content, even if theyre forked from other mods, Anomaly will be worth playing.... once it also gets better quests

[dry musk]

Nvm i didnt write anything wrong, its all right

[dry musk]

The discord has at least some of them

[rapid umbra]

freeplay mods just in general do a bad job at creating emergent gameplay. i cant put my finger on it but it doesnt compel me at all. they dont have enough variation to make the gameplay loop compelling enough, it needs a lot more work done. if more maps were added, someone found a way to randomize level order (like where level exits go), and quests got a massive overhaul to make them much more dynamic, i would be much more interested in the formula

Call of the Zone had a focus on more dynamic and interesting quests, but like I mentioned the creator tragically passed away so i dont know how much he succeeeded in completing his goal

[worthy lagoon]

Then i really don't see what all the work is, they slapped OXR 64bit and Misery (actually another mod that did that) and it's all on CoC.

But all the stuff you see... platform, backpack feature, maps, freeplay mode.

It's all made by other mods like CoC which wasn't made by Anomaly devs.

In fact Anomaly is more of a repack with Open X-ray engine 64bit

[rapid umbra]

why are you lying for no reason xD

[worthy lagoon]

Huh?

[rapid umbra]

anomaly massively itterates, it just didnt create the formula of freeplay mods

[loud gate]

Hello, STOC

[worthy lagoon]

That's what i am saying??

[rapid umbra]

this guy is just lying xD idk why @dry musk

[worthy lagoon]

The backpack feature is from the latest version of CoC and the freeplay + maps (aside their new map which idr the name) is from CoC

[dry musk]

Im just not gonna engage, if i do im absolutely gonna do something stupid

[rapid umbra]

yea idk what hes saying

[loud gate]

KUROOO

[worthy lagoon]

Yo Mozi

[loud gate]

Wassup brotherman

[dry musk]

Kuro im sorry if your not trolling but i dont have much patience

[worthy lagoon]

I'm fine, just got back home, wbu

[rapid umbra]

Anomaly 100% iterates a lot. a lot of the changes are subjective, but loads upon loads of improvements are present. its a great feat of stalker modding and the community its harvested of addon creators make it a very modular experience

most other stalker mods dont even let you use it with other mods, even small mods (they almost always require merging and messing with the files themsevles), Anomaly has so many additional addons that it has its own Mod Manager support

[dry musk]

And because of that its arguably the best f2p mod

[rapid umbra]

yes its a very great free "game" since its a standalone mod

[hardy bear]

That’s fair. It’s just that the way I tend to approach games lends itself nicely to its formula. While it is just doing tasks on an indefinite loop, the inbetween portions I can enjoy in the moment. No doubt though in a months time it’ll probably end up getting old

[rapid umbra]

Yeah and I can like that too. I WANT to like it, it just ends up boring me

[dry musk]

Yeah anomaly on its own NEEDS better and more quest variety

Are there mods for that? Yes

[rapid umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mfx3yWP7oQ&t=881s @dry musk this is another freeplay mod, much more similar to Call of Chernobyl, but it has like 30 factions and TONS of new locations. imagine anomaly wiht that much stuff...

[hardy bear]

30 factions sounds like far too much

[hazy helm]

Why are you imagine anomaly with that

You already have it

It's called Global Warfare

And it fucks

[rapid umbra]

its not when u have tons of new locations, and the mod itself is based entirely on warfare. its not hardcore survival like anomaly

[hazy helm]

It's so good

[rapid umbra]

yea i need to paly it. its got that archaic slav jank so i need to get used to it

but i havei t installed.. just needa play...

[hardy bear]

As in how can you have any meaningful story, lore or development with that many factions, even if the map is that big

[rapid umbra]

anomaly doesnt have meaningful story lore or development xD most of the a-life is related to faction warring which is what the entire mod is about

[hardy bear]

How fleshed out are they?

[dry musk]

Im assuming it is/will be standalone tho?

[rapid umbra]

and thats my issue with freeplay mods like Anomaly, COC, etc. they just dont have compelling dynamics a tall despite that being the appeal

[hazy helm]

I really can't wait for OXR COC to release for ppl to actually start forking and making their own ideas

[rapid umbra]

all freeplay mods are standalone

[hazy helm]

It already is

[rapid umbra]

i reckon not very xD it sjust about having tons of factions fighting eachother. its about WAR!

[hardy bear]

No I’m not talking about the actual story itself, one of the things I appreciate most in the setting of stalker is just how the various factions have their own motives, connections and general personalities. What I’m getting at is how can you have 30 factions but have them all feel equally unique

[hazy helm]

You have a mutant faction

🤌

It has SOVL

[dry musk]

Let me phrase it better. Is it compatible with other mods? (I.e. BaS, etc)

[rapid umbra]

xD fair. you could DEFINTIELY make more factions or just flesh them out and make it work in a freeplay formula tho. the mod i mentioned doesnt do that (its just about faction warfare, not much story or anything)

[rapid umbra]

almost no stalker mods are compatible with eachother.

[hazy helm]

BAS is a an anomaly mod

Not intended to be used anywhere but anomaly

[rapid umbra]

and yes BAS is an anomaly addon so it will only work with anomaly. i reckon youre thinking global war is based on anomaly, its not, its based on anomaly's "predeccesors" (I figure COC)

[hazy helm]

Global War is based on CoC

All of these mods are since it's the best to fork

Anomaly sucks to mod

[rapid umbra]

@hardy bear a grounded, survival-horror oriented mod like Anomaly could 100% expand on factions or add new ones, and I think this actually will happen eventually since Anomaly's addon scene just grows more and more, we might finalyl see new factions. I hope the Anomaly dev team starts officially adding new factions that arent "secret" ones like sin, ISG, etc. and also adding new locations to the game and expanding on the quests

[dry musk]

Clearly there's something im overlooking when it comes to modding

[hardy bear]

Stalker mod forks are as complex as a family tree my goodness

[crisp ruin]

I've used warfare mod but it crashed the game

[hardy bear]

I’d be down to see them come up with some with the same work put into them as the vanilla ones

[rapid umbra]

the way stalker is developed makes using mods with eachother VERY improbable. its not like fallout where everything works with eachother. even if both mods are just for vanilla STALKER< they most likely wont work together unless they state they will

[hazy helm]

You're lucky if it even releases 1.6 lol lmao

[dry musk]

Same but with provaks, i have upgraded my GPU so maybe it wont crash?

[rapid umbra]

just call of chernobyl. lots of other mods borrow from eachother (especialyl regarding weapon packs. youll see the same weapon packs used in dozens of different mods), but there arent family trees of forks or anyhting like COC

[dry musk]

Which is why mod organizers/managers exist?

[rapid umbra]

Anomaly mod? You're better off asking in the Anomaly discord

[hazy helm]

I yearn to go back to a time where if you wanted your own CoC vision you'd fork the entire game and mod it

[rapid umbra]

mod managers ONLY exist for Anomaly, actually, and for that exact reason (mods just are rarely compatible with eachother)

[hazy helm]

[hardy bear]

Good times it sounds like

[hazy helm]

We do not use mod managers outside anomaly

[rapid umbra]

BAS isn't a "mod," its an ADDON. an addon for Anomaly

[crisp ruin]

I have RTX 3060 and better CPU.

[hazy helm]

Stalker is not supported by mod managers
Anomaly is the only that is supported

You should learn how to manually mod and keep track of mods, sooner the better

[dry musk]

I feel like ive opened a cam of worms, im such an ignorant fool

[hardy bear]

[hazy helm]

Anomaly is a very small speck in the modding scene

We have all kinds of experiences to show

[crisp ruin]

Isn't mod manager 2 does for Anomaly

[hazy helm]

Yes
MO2 has community mod support
Stalker doesn't however

Nor any other Fangame

You don't need to anyway

You are not installing 1001 little mods

[crisp ruin]

Because Vortex of Nexus Mod sucks

[hazy helm]

Usually when mossing these you have the big mod and maybe a little cheat mod that doesn't change much

[crisp ruin]

I use that for other games

[hazy helm]

It is rare when you add mods that aren't patches to the main mod

[dry musk]

I use MO2 for cyberpunk, not all of my mods work but one of them does

[rapid umbra]

its really not that complicated xD

• S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is developed in a way that mods are rarely ever compatible with each-other, even if they do very similar things.
• Anomaly is a total conversion mod and a standalone mod so it would NEVER EVER be compatible with any other S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mod.
• Anomaly DOES have tons of "submods," which are called addons, and those are mods built specifically for Anomaly, like BAS.
• Outside of Anomaly, the STALKER modding community are all together mostly okay with borrowing stuff from each-others mods, which is why you'd see tons of mods using the same weapon packs, so lots of the time mods don't even need to be combined anyways.
• If you want mods to work together, you need to manually patch them to work with eachother which is like modding the game itself

This is why MO2 only supports Anomaly and doesn't support the original STALKER games or any other mods for it

[crisp ruin]

Vortex does btw

[rapid umbra]

Even other freeplay mods like Call of Chernobyl had lots of addons but they still didn't use mod managers and instead what typically happens is poeple made addon packs for them

[solid dome]

• Anomaly 2 will never ever, ever, forever, happen

[rapid umbra]

What?

[crisp ruin]

Nexus mods's vortex

[rapid umbra]

I hope not. Why woudl you ever make a sequel to a freeplay mod xD

[dry musk]

Idk man

[hazy helm]

What are you talking about

[rapid umbra]

What? It supports the original STALKER games? What's the point? Like I already said STALKER mods just dont work with eachother 99% of the time

[hardy bear]

Challenge accepted

[crisp ruin]

At this point they will use... Godot Engine to make Anomaly 2

[rapid umbra]

What are you confused about?

[dry musk]

I was referring to why people would make Anomaly 2

Idk why they would

[rapid umbra]

yea theres no point in making it. why would you need to make a sequel to a mod thats based on infinite replayability and emergent content? are you making an entirely new zone? xD

[hazy helm]

There is going to be a Freeplay mod for S2 don't worry

Freeplay Start2.0

Lmao

[crisp ruin]

Ok ok I just said "Vortex" is Nexus Mods's own mod manager there. Sorry.

[dry musk]

Id actually like to see the northern most sections of the zone, the zone in stalker is a radius centered on the CNPP, correct?

[rapid umbra]

No im just asking what you mean. What does Vortex support?

[hazy helm]

what does that have to do with the convo we were having

[rapid umbra]

I believe so, yea. North of the zone is zaton, jupiter, etc. iirc (and thats where most freeplay mods put it)

i think freeplay mods should change the level arrangements completely so it's not so linear. ironically, the story-based mod "Road To The North" actually DOES do that https://www.moddb.com/mods/zoneexpanded-road-to-the-north/videos/new-world-map-design-some-different-routes-more-realistic

[hazy helm]

Zaton is at the southern border and Jupiter is at the middle serving as a middle section between south and Pripyat

[dry musk]

Im talking like PAST the generators area, like the Belarusian part of the zone

[rapid umbra]

right

[hazy helm]

Stalker Belarussia?

[finite dragon]

hello. how are you?

[hardy bear]

Mornin

[rapid umbra]

hows this? xD
this is i believe an older version of OP2's map. op2 is like the biggest stalker mod ever apparently, hundreds of hours

[crisp ruin]

All of them. I just looked up.

[dry musk]

Id kind of assumed borders wouldn't matter in the zone

[gaunt burrow]

I don't think they'll show borders and stuff like that

[hazy helm]

Still is I'm p sure

[gaunt burrow]

Though international border troops do exist in trilogy. They were mentioned by Orest

[crisp ruin]

I regret to say that really. I just woke up an saw this.

[hazy helm]

But there is a stalker mod that is based the Belarussia zone

[rapid umbra]

i think the REBORN mod for clear sky (insane mod) has a bunch of maps north of the zone, but i cant find a map online

[hazy helm]

It's a tarkov rip off

Unironically

Ppl want tarkov in stalker?we already had it for like a year

[rapid umbra]

someone needs to make a compilation of stalker mods and their maps. so sick of trying to google to find them

[hazy helm]

[crisp ruin]

I hate it

[dry musk]

Kinda gimme a sec im gonna grab some screenies from google maps to help me explain what i am talking about

[hazy helm]

Lelop updated the mod spreadsheet recently BC the 4chan flowchart is godawful

[rapid umbra]

i know exactly what youre talking about i just cant find any mods or anything that do that

[crisp ruin]

I already had enough of basic survival games but making everything tarkov like just... Bruh, why.

[rapid umbra]

i dont know why youre telling me this

[hazy helm]

Centralised mod spreadsheet that easely links to mods and displays information about them

Thought that was what you wanted

[rapid umbra]

link me it please!

[dry musk]

I just wanna know what goes on there man

[hazy helm]

Needs more padding
But it already is quite a ton of help
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GgBFCRIbc7TQ5DwWHvWaridX1G64PYoWItkLyr3pBPk

[rapid umbra]

this isnt what im looking for at all but i guess it can help if i want to make a collection of stalker mod maps myself

[finite dragon]

morning son

[dry musk]

The zone is so much bigger than just the games maps in my head, and it's supposed to be expanding with each emission. I desperately want to see the full scope of it

[rapid umbra]

im actually not that knowledgable on stalker lore, but yea since all 3 games are based on going from the south to the north, u dont know much about what happens in the north, east, and, west. idk why its like that

maybe stalker 2 will have a wider map

[dry musk]

Cuz the devs are Ukrainian?

[rapid umbra]

i mean the characters speak russian in the trilogy

(they wont in S2 tho apparently )

[hazy helm]

From what I remember the Belarussia part of the zone is content left in the development of the game

[dry musk]

No offense but DUH

[hazy helm]

It's not brought up I don't think it's cannon anymore?

Don't quote me on that

[rapid umbra]

i assme it was just a game design choice since stalker is only half-open world, it still pits you on a linear journey north
cop is literally all round maps organized in a triangle tho lol so if s2 isnt about going north itll probabyl have a map like that as well

[crisp ruin]

Maybe the Cannon but yeah heard about that.

[dry musk]

What does OP2 mean?

[rapid umbra]

its the name of the mod xD

[dry musk]

Okay

This is really interesting though

[rapid umbra]

it means "Cumulative Patch 2" IIRC which is an egregious understatement of the mods content

its literally the biggest stalker mod ever made suppppposedly (its too slav jank for me personally)

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/f613fb_c0dd6374d52c42fdb4553be5898e309f~mv2.jpeg/v1/fill/w_640,h_458,al_c,lg_1,q_80,enc_auto/f613fb_c0dd6374d52c42fdb4553be5898e309f~mv2.jpeg
and this is the real world exclusion zone now, or at least recently

[hazy helm]

you need to get thru NLC7 before OP2

[dry musk]

So i take it its not an anomaly addon?

[rapid umbra]

im excited for whenever NLC7 actually gets a good translation. the nwest machine translation is still trash

[rapid umbra]

correct

[hazy helm]

We are working on it
Finishing touches are being done to loading screens and textures and a moddb page is being set up

Final stretch

[dry musk]

I dont have the braincells to install it myself then

[rapid umbra]

so yay

[crisp ruin]

[dry musk]

NLC7?

[hazy helm]

It's an installer

[rapid umbra]

its standalone but also you probably wouldnt like it. its SUPER jank and archaic and you need to read like a dozen guides and stuff to not screw urself over

[hazy helm]

New Level Changer 7
it's p deep in the modding scene and kinda hard to explain

[dry musk]

Oh, its THAT kind of archaic

[hazy helm]

OP2 doesn't care if your confused it merely wants to keep adding content

It's the charm

[rapid umbra]

its a mod based on shadow of chernobyl with an original story, a bunch of new maps, and SUPER grounded and realistic gameplay, it makes anomaly look like a joke apparently. its been hell to translate i hear so really all we have are machine translations, which is what ia assume vasim was talking about

[hazy helm]

Can it be called jank if it is intentional

[rapid umbra]

if you want an experience similar, just try Narordnaya Solyanka @dry musk, i believe OP2 is based on it. it has a few forks like call of chernobyl does, and idk which is the best, but it's not archaic like OP2

[dry musk]

This is on the same tier of unknowable as quantum physics to me

[hazy helm]

It's a Fangame whose challenge is borne out of thinking logically to complete tasks and logistical challenges trying to balance economicaly and play the merchant card right

[rapid umbra]

dude theyre just mods, u drag and drop files and click on exe's. if you can figure out how to install anomaly and set up mod managers for it and make addons work you can definitely install normal stalker mods

[hazy helm]

I wouldn't call it realistic

I don't think it cares about realism

All that much that is

[rapid umbra]

yes it sounds VERY compelling and fun. im also excited for Propsector's Project to get an actually good translation, which i think is being worked on

[hazy helm]

I wouldn't recommend NS as a starter
A starter could be Smth like OGSR or CATF or Winds of Time

[crisp ruin]

I need to note down that mod to play, because Anomaly gets so boring.

[rapid umbra]

oh yeah OGSR is actually probably one of the best starts for "soup" style mods

whats CATF?

[hazy helm]

Skenka threw a DeepL TL on it
I don't think there is any project ongoing to translate using any other service

[dry musk]

Not like that, i cant explain it. But ill try. Hearing about some mods fills me with the same confusion and wonder that space and really nitty gritty concepts in physics do

[rapid umbra]

yes i tried the new translation and its really bad unfortunately

[hazy helm]

Calm after the Storm
Small 4 hour CoP mod whose main attraction are the new maps

[rapid umbra]

i just love new maps. i play barely any stalker mods, adhd makes dedicating myself to trying them so difficult, but seeing new maps fills me with childlike wonder and i just want to fkin get to them and explore the maps... sadly the best of stalker modding is untranslated and not in english

[rapid umbra]

oh link me this one please!

[hazy helm]

When thinking about stalker mods,don't think of them as a whole interconnected,but as a million different trees that don't congeal and work in different patches

[dry musk]

Hmm

[rapid umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUJEaNHC5EM @dry musk peep dis stuff. it looks so cool

[hazy helm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/calm-after-the-storm-en-tl

[rapid umbra]

yes stalker mods are ALL SEPERATE EXPERIENCES! its not like fallout where you download different mods together

in stalker, you download a mod and play it. anomaly is the exception where you have a bunch of addons you can try

some mods have addons you can count to with one hand at MOST but most are one and done deals, no modifying them or using other mods with them

[dry musk]

Idk if I'm just a fool or SUPER western but thinking of it like that never crossed my mind

[loud gate]

I am okay brotherman

[rapid umbra]

no just most other games have more versatile modding procedures and because anomaly is treated like a "game," people start to think the other stalker games are modded the same way

[hazy helm]

If you want to showcase something really different AlternativA keeps being the crack of stalker mods

[rapid umbra]

gotta try this sometime too

[hazy helm]

It takes you places

[dry musk]

I feel embarrassed about not knowing that

[rapid umbra]

i was trying to find a vid i saw before that showed NLC 7's inventory and saving mechanics but i cant find it anymore.
you have to put magazines, healing items, etc. on your vest, and saving requires you to light campfires up to save. its very interesting and compelling stuff

[rapid umbra]

its fine lol

[dry musk]

For some reason this reminds me of the... For lack of better term illuminati in the Metro 2035 book

Read those books btw they're amazing

[dry musk]

Thats to just anyone

[hazy helm]

Lost Alpha 1.3 Secret Ending moment

[rapid umbra]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/620919b2fcf26676329427ee/1651873495812-D5AXXXYCFCAY3KT30PQA/IMG_20220430_151117.jpg?format=1500w
im trying to make a stalker board game but idk what it should be like. i think the COIN series of games are very interesting (based on military conflicts, 2+ players and asymetrical teams all with different objectives) but i need to play more to get inspiration

im new to board games and like.. strategy games as a whole so i need to play a lot more of them in general

[dry musk]

Thats ambitious

[rapid umbra]

mmmmmaybe

[dry musk]

Explain pls?

[hazy helm]

https://youtu.be/nAPSPqrtezs?si=z_E2m_V9KXaAvxNj

[dry musk]

Danke

[rapid umbra]

if lost alpha was russian it would be praised as epic slav jank but its not so lots of ppl in the stalker community shit on it

https://youtu.be/xJ0cdl2TUzI dude NLC7 looks so good

[hazy helm]

It's not praised BC it's just p damn boring tbh
It's got notorious levels of backtracking
I wouldn't have completed the mod had I not spawned in cars to drive places

[solid dome]

To win the losers

[rapid umbra]

i actually hope prospector's project blows up and becomes a base for mods. it has a lot of cool ideas, especially regarding combat

i never knew how much limping stalkers and smarter ai would improve the game

[solid dome]

NLC7 sucks because NLC1,2,3,4,5,6 never happened

[rapid umbra]

i NLC7'd ur mom

[solid dome]

Worthless mod

[hazy helm]

NLC6 is a thing

[solid dome]

You NLC7'd your right hand

[hazy helm]

🤌 from memory NLC5 too

[solid dome]

Unlike 1,2,3,4

The best mod is one CS mod

[rapid umbra]

@dry musk oh also NA7 (New Arsenal 7) is good. Based on SOC, has fun combat. Join the C-Consciousness Discord server and ask for what to download. Don't fight in the arena in rostok tho

And you can have sex in it

[solid dome]

Evalyn, you belong to Promhub

[hazy helm]

I can't post NA7 clips BC the server doesn't allow the bad men dressed in black from being mentioned or shown

Pain

[crisp ruin]

Wait what

[hazy helm]

They were in ww2
I will not say anymore about that

[crisp ruin]

I'm installing rn

[hazy helm]

It's pretty damn good

NA7 my beloved

I love Wolfenstein

[dry musk]

I always thought of the "illuminati" in Metro as people who found really fancy shelters for politicians and convinced themselves they were superior, but its been a while since i read it

Instead of them being architects from the very beginning of human history

[crisp ruin]

Starfield flashbacks...

[dry musk]

I didnt really play starfield

For some reason i just couldn't keep myself interested in it

[crisp ruin]

They did that in the game but ofc... Game is bad.

[dry musk]

Bethesda moment

Is skyrim a good game or a bad game?

I think its overall okay, its a good RPG, and the dungeons are where it really shines, which is why I am excited for skyblivion

[crisp ruin]

Hmmm it's good and bad in some way

Some people says it's lacking of old features and other people say it's buggy

[dry musk]

I think the quests are mostly uninteresting and thinly veiled radiant quests. Except for dragonborn

[crisp ruin]

But do you want true Bethesda rpg, play Morrowind and Daggerfall (with Daggerfall Unity)

[dry musk]

Ive only really played skyrim, i cant do oblivion because i have depression and for some reason nothing holds my interest like it should. Maybe its because i watched a 100% playthrough of the game

[crisp ruin]

Then give a try to Morrowind

You gonna like it