⭐┃nospoilers_general

[fossil fiber]

Xbox already said they gonna talk about 4 games

[waxen tendon]

They’ll probably just do the same trailer they released

[keen rune]

Likely since it's a day 1 Gamepass game, they could just stay quiet about it

[solid dome]

We don't frame anyone around here, we don't play like that.

[keen rune]

Instead of 20 seconds they'll do a 10 second trailer showcasing the title.

[fossil fiber]

You do

[waxen tendon]

Imagine

[pale pivot]

I’m not gonna lie to u it’s prob more like, 20/80 chance. Stalker 2 isn’t a first party Microsoft exclusive and this dev showcase is meant to be for first party titles

[solid dome]

And what do you do then, even if I did? Hate on people who discuss about it?

[fossil fiber]

Why you keep doing it?

[solid dome]

Be my guest

[versed basin]

honestly, if GSC couldn't be bothered to release a proper trailer for the delay announcement, I think they got nothing to show for months still

[solid dome]

I'm doing nothing, we converse with those folks as you can see for yourself

[keen rune]

They got something hiding, they just don't wanna show it. And unlses GSC are as quiet as an anti-social, I suggest GSC starts focusing more on marketing instead of delaying for the 88th time.

[fossil fiber]

Why you keep playing dumb?

[pale pivot]

That’s bc the game is probably in a bad state. There’s nothing to show in a trailer. And they don’t want to push that pre rendered stuff they put out a couple years ago.

[versed basin]

@keen rune yeah but they're gonna keep playing the waiting game. I expect real marketing to start mid year

[waxen tendon]

What about the demo

[rotund spade]

meh dude, it's GSC, even in peace time SoC, CS and even CoP releases was a disaster, just relax, drink some wine and w8, anyway we would need to w8 1 more year after release to get a playable version

[solid dome]

Seems I made DaVinci furious again for simply stating a fact the game is also worked on by volunteers

[versed basin]

@pale pivot agreed

[keen rune]

By mid year, literally no one would care at that point because now the assumption are delays.

[solid dome]

As if I said volunteer work is bad

[fossil fiber]

You know what you did, genius

[pale pivot]

Yep

[waxen tendon]

Imagine they push it back again

I’d kms prolly

[versed basin]

@rotund spade not the same company, not the same game, not the same times, but sure I see your point. I'm not too worried honestly, I already accepted the more its delayed the better, even if they lie to us all the time

[solid dome]

Yeah, I never stated volunteer work is bad and you fell in the trap of thinking someone did

[versed basin]

@keen rune hmm idk about that, if they do it HARD, they can regain trust in release day quickly imo

[rotund spade]

it's still stalker... stalker never changes

[pale pivot]

They still share a lot of the same devs/leads I think. That probably bled into the development of stalker 2

[keen rune]

That's the assumption now, I wouldn't be surprised. They really liked about that Q1 date in the Strider trailer, they should've just told the truth isntead of tricking us, but it's development issues, I'm no dev so I'll give kudos to them for at least taking their time.

[solid dome]

@fossil fiber Not gonna bother, if you have something to say, do it in public.

[versed basin]

@pale pivot I heard that, but its still so far away from old days. The whole world is different, we'll see

[solid dome]

I'm not playing the evil here

[fossil fiber]

I already did. Multiple times. You do not seem to get it

[solid dome]

I stated the game has volunteers working on it and you literally jumped on me as if that's somehow bad

[fossil fiber]

You know what I'm talking about. That's not our first conversation about it

[solid dome]

Fun fact, it isnt

[hidden stratus]

They didnt show up in the game awards, so they prob wont show up in the xbox showcase

[pale pivot]

I would have more respect for gsc if they just came out and said “Hey, we are delaying indefinitely til this game is one hundred percent ready”. It’ll probably hurt pre orders but that’s just what they’ll have to do to not have to worry about making a date

[pale pivot]

At least we’ll see avowed which is meh

[solid dome]

It will impact on preorders for a short time. It'll buy them even more preorders afterwards.

[keen rune]

At this point, I can't trust GSC with that final release date, I'll believe them when the game comes out day 1, and that's if it comes out.

[solid dome]

I see no issue, you have to risk it to win

[versed basin]

People should stop "respecting" game companies, seriously. If you treat someone like a king, they will treat you like a peasant

doesn't mean you gotta attack them or whatever, but dont take their bs forever

[pale pivot]

My heart goes out to the talented devs, not the company

[waxen tendon]

Gunna make me cry😭

[hidden stratus]

Looks like Skyrim on drugs

[solid dome]

I often use sayings to explain stuff to fellas in STOC, never worked

[versed basin]

are the devs talented? im not even sure anymore these days.

@solid dome hahaha

[pale pivot]

What were they thinking with that goofy a*s shit they pulled with making the game so colorful. Shit looks like crayon the game

[solid dome]

Common sense isn't often found on the internet

[fossil fiber]

Devs are what makes the company a company

[solid dome]

At times even terminally lacking

[pale pivot]

Doesn’t invalidate what I said. They make the company but they themselves aren’t the company

I respect them on a personal level

[fossil fiber]

They are the biggest part of the company. How you do think it works?

[pale pivot]

? You think I don’t know that?

[solid dome]

Management has always been the black sheep, the bane of every entertainment company, I like to add

[versed basin]

I hope GSC doesn't have diversity/inclusion hires, or other kinds of nepotism

[solid dome]

Case no different with GSC

[pale pivot]

Preaching to the choir. Some people don’t think rationally/aren’t looking to get convinced. People just have pre conceived notions and those won’t change no matter what sort of evidence or proof of what you say.

[fossil fiber]

So if you care about the devs - you also care about the company. That's the point

[pale pivot]

I care about Ubisoft devs on a personal level. I hope the company burns in hell

[solid dome]

You said it all

[keen rune]

Activision

[fossil fiber]

You really think devs have nothing to do with games being bad?

[waxen tendon]

Based words

[solid dome]

Devs are the hamsters on the wheel, your point?

[fossil fiber]

They are not slaves lol

[solid dome]

Your point above?

[fossil fiber]

What's your point?

[solid dome]

I want to understand yours first before I tell you mine, point exchange trade

[waxen tendon]

Dawg have you seen any Tripple A company, they run devs into the ground and make promises they can’t keep

[pale pivot]

You need to be very talented to work at AAA companies like Ubisoft. But it doesn’t matter when those devs have to follow company policies. I work as a civil engineer and I can’t go all Willy nilly making the most efficient roads bc my company is a behemoth bureaucratic mess. Devs don’t have free will

[fossil fiber]

There are different companies. Some are worse, some are better

[waxen tendon]

Not to mention getting paid peanuts for what was once a lucrative business

[waxen tendon]

Companies that go corporate tend to go this route because it’s suits calling the shots not the devs

[solid dome]

DaVinci said devs are no slaves, not sure who to believe ||/s||

Despotism rocks our world

[fossil fiber]

I literally posted today an article for you where Iassenev talks about GSC

[solid dome]

Leave Iassenev out of our yadda yadda talks. Let the man cook.

The man should cook

[fossil fiber]

Don't ignore my point

[solid dome]

I'm not, making sure you don't trap him in the argument

Speak freely, brotherman

[fossil fiber]

He is part of the argument cause you think devs are slaves

[versed basin]

Can I see that article pls?

[solid dome]

Okay, what about it then, go on

Do post it in DM for me to read later on, thanks a bunch

[fossil fiber]

Yes, wait a sec

[versed basin]

Thanks

[pale pivot]

Stop putting words in people’s mouths. No one said all devs are slaves. We clearly implied that some devs at some companies are treated as such

[solid dome]

Masterinformer DaVinci = chad

[fossil fiber]

https://gamedev-dou-ua.translate.goog/articles/developer-stalker-2-about-his-career-and-war/?from=twitter&_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
google translated

[solid dome]

I didn't word it correctly

[pale pivot]

[solid dome]

Can't help it though, English is my 2nd language

[fossil fiber]

"Devs are the hamsters on the wheel" is basically the same

[pale pivot]

Not all but at big companies that have loads of suits that tends to be the case

[solid dome]

I put too much humor in the mix and I ruined the dough

[pale pivot]

What’s ur first lang

[solid dome]

Bulgarian

[pale pivot]

Gimme a sec

[solid dome]

Give ou sex? Man

[fossil fiber]

I'm not arguing there are no bad companies. There are bunch of them. But putting all of them in same category is not fair

[solid dome]

Brothel is on the other side of the street

Lmao

[keen rune]

I'm over here watching a discussion and this feels like a Kardashian drama show.

[solid dome]

Most funny typo ever
"Gimme a sex"

[hidden stratus]

Ya all done killed chat

[pale pivot]

искаш ли да играеш на войник? с мен?

[solid dome]

Woah, mods, send the man to maximum security horny jail. Offering men... sex therapies...

[pale pivot]

[solid dome]

No time to play the doctor game, brother. We have to deal with Doctor in 8 months. He couldn't even bury his men!

An achievement comparable at best to insanity

[pale pivot]

In 8 months, a little baby stalker 2 will pop out of GSC womb👆👆🇹🇷🇹🇷

[keen rune]

That's if it's delivered succesfully, they couldn't even get that final month for polishing the fetus.

[gaunt burrow]

Hi Mr.M

Whats up bro?

[keen rune]

The doctors carrying that baby out of that womb only to see the horrifying product of what is the delays of GSC...a husk of what once was....Stalker 2...but in fact it's just Stalker 2: Remaster of Shadow of Chernobyl

[pale pivot]

That baby is gonna have Down syndrome 😔

[keen rune]

Doin good, finishing some chemistry like I'm Walter White, and hoping GSC shows up at that event tomorrow

[keen rune]

More like Delay Syndrome

[pale pivot]

Which section are you in chemistry?

[gaunt burrow]

JESSE we need to cook

[pale pivot]

GEORGIA IS IN THE CHAT

[gaunt burrow]

[keen rune]

Electron configuration, Ph values, double replacement, single replacement, nitrobenzene complez equations whatnot. Not sure I'm not using these equations to help a dying man of bronchitis.

[pale pivot]

Gotta visit Georgia sometime and get kidnapped

[gaunt burrow]

We aren't kidnappers tf

We're actually very friendly

[crisp ruin]

[solid dome]

Lmao

[crisp ruin]

I wonder why Georgia's other half is gone bruh

[pale pivot]

Electron configuration just look at the first element on the side 1s is H, 1s2 is He. Then you go down a group to if I remember correctly lithium which starts at 2s. Your first number is your quantum number followed up by your group number

[crisp ruin]

[solid dome]

All of us who are here on a daily basis aren't even hating on the game

[gaunt burrow]

Cuz of one country thats like your crazy ex

[solid dome]

We talk stuff often out of friggin passion for the franchise

[gaunt burrow]

But I won't go too political

[pale pivot]

@keen rune forgot to reply to u

[crisp ruin]

I get it

[keen rune]

Nah someone hire this man as GSC's cooker to cook that release date.

[pale pivot]

As a civil engineer I had to learn three years worth of chemistry. I’m a hobbyist on the side lol

[solid dome]

Have it simmer for awhile

[pale pivot]

Benzene chemical formulas are those weird honey comb looking ones. At the end of each corner of the honey comb is a Carbon so remember that!

[solid dome]

Add pinch of savory, pepper, salt

[keen rune]

Yeah I'm def not passing my finals, gotta pass my finals to see Stalker 2 boys

[solid dome]

It'll come out delicious, no? Give it care.

[keen rune]

By the time you're done simmering it down, not even Gordon Ramsay can make GSC cook up proper gameplay videos for us the audience.

[solid dome]

Your finals are hanging out with your crush

[pale pivot]

NO YOU CAN JUST BELIEVE IN YOURSELF 🙏🙏👆👆🇹🇷

[solid dome]

Easily passable

[pale pivot]

TURKISH FLAG FOR GOOD MEASURE

[solid dome]

Hot and spicy

[floral brook]

BRO 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[keen rune]

Yeah about that...apparently she's got a man If this is true, I bet her man doesn't tell her about Stalker lore Remember kids: Women are temporary, but Stalker is forever.

[pale pivot]

YEAAAA TURKISH ON TOP🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺🐺

[solid dome]

Chill out, no kebab sold in STOCtown. Go to the next city.

[broken latch]

@rare zealot how is that a suggestion

[pale pivot]

We will make stoctown sell kebab

[keen rune]

I think he means if we'll have another Stalker game once we're all down 6 ft underground.

[broken latch]

I will open a shawarma shop

[solid dome]

Steal her on a Sunday evening and hit her with lore knowledge

[pale pivot]

Pass ur chem exam bro I believe in you lock in 🔒

[solid dome]

Illegal

How about lavash shop

[pale pivot]

She got a man? Time to look for another one

Women are temporary, stalker is forever

[solid dome]

No release the pseudo dogs at him

[keen rune]

I've heard, not confirmed, I saw her today in class but alas, I didn't hit her with the daily dose of Strelok lore, today's lesson was gonna be the hair strands on Strelok's sexy hairline.

[pale pivot]

Tell her about sidorovich. Trust me my gf fell in love with that fat blob more than me

[keen rune]

Instead of hello kitty girls and batman men. It should be hello kitty girls and stalker boys, cuteness and loneliness combined to form the abomination of what is known as Fallout

[gaunt burrow]

This^

If shes with you just for your artifacts she isn't loyal

[pale pivot]

Fallout is more like horniness and loneliness

[keen rune]

She stole my moonlight artifact Should've known from the start

[gaunt burrow]

F in chat

[keen rune]

I got a better idea, releaes the Chimera's.

[pale pivot]

Game was rigged from the start New Vegas theme starts playing

[pale pivot]

[keen rune]

I can't imagine in 60 years from now, when we're either seniors or dead, Fallout decides to collab with Stalker to produce the hit game "Fall/E.R." game set in Chernobyl set with dark comical humor, but there's creation club content, allowing you to MOD your character to have 60+ chest size.

[pale pivot]

Don’t know if I want that or if I despise that

[gaunt burrow]

[broken latch]

@rare zealot #📜┃s2_suggestions actual suggestions, not questions

And post it once you're done

It's not a construction site

[hardy bear]

one of the only mechanics I actually would like to see in s2 from gamma is the idea of first aid and post heals. The limb damage just ends up introducing item bloat which I'd rather not deal with, but the idea of first aid kits that only temporarily heal, then items that finalise healing but cause a visual impariment is a neat dynamic

[keen rune]

I'll give something to keep this chat alive. Will the Zone be open world or will it be sectioned like the OG's?

[worthy lagoon]

that won't be happening

[gaunt burrow]

Wdym by that? You mean if Zone will be accessable to anyone?

If you're refering to that no

[prime spade]

I think he’s asking if it will have loading screens or if it will be free roaming for the user across the regions

[keen rune]

I'm saying if the game will be sectioned by different areas (Garbage, Pripyat etc), the game doesn't say if it'll be a single open world or just different sections.

[fossil fiber]

It does say it. It's seamless open world

[prime spade]

I think they’re trying to push for free roam, but I won’t be surprised if they just stick to loading into new areas, since it’s much more stable and no one would mind anyways

[gaunt burrow]

Ahha. Got it

[tawny flume]

Add romance

[gaunt burrow]

👉 🚪

[prime spade]

Sex update is not on release, please be patient

[keen rune]

Well except people who are gonna complain, S2 isn't aimed at new audiences, it's target audience is OG's. I bet Fallout fanboys are gonna complain (I'm one of em but I'm no one to complain)

[tawny flume]

lol

[keen rune]

You can ask Krezzin that, he's in need of some udpates for sure.

[prime spade]

I do think that the game will stick to the more original mechanics, but considering how modders have influenced the community itself, they might play both sides

[fossil fiber]

The game is going to be truly open world, don't expect any surprises about that

[keen rune]

Wouldn't be surprised if modders find a way to section the game just like in the originals.

[fossil fiber]

What for?

[prime spade]

I know they said that, I’m just saying that if they do it the original way I won’t be surprised, especially if it’s a temporary measure to even out the game (it’s gonna be on fire on release)

[hardy bear]

yeah the healing system they've shown doesn't show this functionality, and I don't care if it's exempt

but it's just a neat little system

[prime spade]

Simple healing system is best, let modders do what they want, but the game shouldn’t over complicate a feature that isn’t needed

[hardy bear]

although it depends a lot on how they intend to push combat onto the player

[keen rune]

You asked me about Stalker 2's trailer video, remember?
It's an empty video.
Decided to drop a 30 second trailer, after days of waiting!
Matt and I were just discussing when the release date will drop
But we can't seem quite to fit all the leaks together
Maybe you can figure out the date
....It reminded me...that we used to wait longer....
I took just one glace at release date...and my whole world plunged into darkness
I'm sorry Krezzin...
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
That was the day, that GSC had ruined the hype train
I felt as if I was awakening from the years-long lies
And through the monitor, I saw that September 5th release date...
We have a simple choice!
Sit back, and wait for another super delay after September
Or take a chance, and get control of GSC's internal builds
Only I...didn't choose those 8 months....
Unlike you....

[hardy bear]

in gamma it works out since it's entierly sandbox, but transferring that to the structure of unmodded might not actually play out too well thinking about it now

[gaunt burrow]

[worthy lagoon]

it will be like the trilogy

[fossil fiber]

It seems people have a hard time accepting that s2 is going to be very similar to original games

[gaunt burrow]

S2 will definitely have tons of features OG trilogy had. I think we shouldn't really have a reason to think that S2 will be too far away from the trilogy

[gaunt burrow]

Aye. That seems to be the case

[finite dragon]

bullying matt in off topic

[gaunt burrow]

[hardy bear]

not looking forward to the day where people find out you don't need to spend 5 hours maticulously fixing up every part of a gun before using it

[worthy lagoon]

?

[hardy bear]

well the people expecting gamma 2 aren't going to get gamma 2

[worthy lagoon]

yeah

[fossil fiber]

I'm actually interested how the whole "s2 is not like anomaly/gamma" gonna play out

[hardy bear]

I think the only people who will think that are those who got into modded and have never looked into the originals

[keen rune]

Quite difficult to tell when GSC doesn't give us in game footage to work with at least for a solid 5 minutes

[gaunt burrow]

As a Vanilla Enjoyer I wouldn't mind S2 being as close to original as possible ngl

[hardy bear]

I doubt it'll be much different

and after having played more gamma, there isn't anything I'd want them to really change. Only reason I brought up the healing thing is that it's one of the only mechanics that I felt could add to it

[gaunt burrow]

Idk anything GAMMA and its mechanics so can't say anything

[fossil fiber]

It's not gonna be anything close to sandbox mods. As for in-game footage - now it's very likely that GSC gonna appear at Xbox Showcase in June. So maybe there you'll get your footage

[keen rune]

you'll never know. Xbox may surprice us...never.

[hardy bear]

only other thing I hope for is that subtitles will also appear for non story npcs. Would like to understand what they are saying

[fossil fiber]

You mean when you play with ukr dub?

[hardy bear]

ye

[fossil fiber]

I don't think it's a coincidence they chose September as release date. Gives them at least 2 big events (Xbox Showcase and Gamescom) to advertise the game before release.

[hardy bear]

fair point

[fossil fiber]

I think they will. They know it's important part of the atmosphere.

[hardy bear]

and pre-christmas sales

[keen rune]

I only hope they give more footage, lack of footage is what's scaring me, but hopefully tomorrow they give something off for Stalker 2, otherwise...news is bleak.

[fossil fiber]

Similar to what Bethesda did for Starfield last year

[gaunt burrow]

Didn't think about this yet but thats a very good point

It makes more sense now

[keen rune]

Makes sense, only hoping tomorrow is worth it, but I'd keep expectations low, but GSC did mention they'll release more news...actualy you're onto something DaVinci..

This could finally cure Krezzin's depression and cure his schitzsophrenia

[fossil fiber]

I know GSC's PR is pretty wack but I'm like 99,9999% sure you gonna see a lot of footage before the game releases. It's just the question of when they finally decide they are actually ready to show it to people

[keen rune]

I'm betting they have some game footage lying around, because most of the time, devs but not always record footage in game, whether or not it's finished, the least GSC can do is release some footage in the event tomorrow, it doesn't matter whether it's bad, the game isn't done, but would show progress from the "bolts and bullets" trailer to now.

[fossil fiber]

Don't expect anything tomorrow. Xbox is focusing on their own games

[keen rune]

Keeping expectations low, though I question their marketing since Stalker 2 is a day one gamepass game, and it's near release date, so not sure what their move is, but I'm confident GSC will release something soon.

[fossil fiber]

I think Summer will be go time but before that it's hard to say what to expect. Maybe something in March-April

So be prepared for no news for the next 1-2 months. Or maybe something small

[keen rune]

Another 20 second trailer probably but jokes aside, I hope GSC can make up the delays with more news.

[fossil fiber]

They know it looks bad. So I expect a lot more news closer to release

[hardy bear]

either way, doesn't really matter. If you will only buy the game after launch then no news at all won't make a difference

[fossil fiber]

You don't choose release dates for yolo reasons. Marketing is always part of it. So September kinda makes a lot of sense for that reason

[fossil fiber]

People get too emotional about that kind of stuff. If the game is great - people will just laugh about the times where they had to wait for months without no news at all

[hardy bear]

I can understand why, I felt the same way about the games I used to get hyped for. But now, I can’t really get hyped for new things

[fossil fiber]

It normally happens when you get older. Although I still get hyped everytime we get S2 news though

[hardy bear]

For news, yeah I get excited. Cause that’s something tangible. But almost every game I’ve been anticipating over the last 5 years has crashed and burned

So I’ve just learned to simply wait and get hyped when I know it’s good

[tidal zealot]

[tawny flume]

Is there any randomly generated content in s2

[fossil fiber]

What do you mean exactly?

[tawny flume]

Like randomly generated encounters or mission types or something

[hardy bear]

No clue

[solid dome]

Operation Witch Hunt in effect

[tawny flume]

Or does the game in general feature any kind of randomly generated

[hardy bear]

A life will lead to some dynamic events as npcs move around, but if your talking rockstar or Skyrim style, no idea

[solid dome]

We know

We know nothing
There is no news
No information

[versed basin]

I think if there's any it will be attached to A life, so A life functions and generates conditions in the world, but then maybe a quest gives you a task to do something about it

[fossil fiber]

That's what A-life is for. You will have random fights on the map for sure. Not sure about missions though. I doubt it

[solid dome]

A quest gives us a task to run naked across Cordon dodging chopper misiles, will you do it?

[versed basin]

ofc, for a price...

[hardy bear]

That’s just a Tuesday

[hazy helm]

wjat do you mean with Random Generation?

like,in a roguelike?

[solid dome]

PGC

[tawny flume]

Say each time u boot up the game encounters or something is different or something hard to explain

[keen rune]

Pretty sure emmissions are rando

[tawny flume]

Procedural generation Ig

[versed basin]

yeah you're gonna get that with a life and some of the weather for sure

[solid dome]

Not the game for such a feature

[hazy helm]

there wont be random generation in Stalker 2 but you will have the A-Life system which simulates stalkers in the zone

[hazy helm]

its jkust a timer to an event in world
not random generation

[solid dome]

We talk hand crafted content in STALKER 2, immersion doesn't come from procedurally generated content

[hardy bear]

Well the story will be the same each time, but since npcs move around naturally there will be fights that happen around you

[tawny flume]

Never ending Dynamic encounters etc ig

[solid dome]

Story will be the way you make it to be

[fossil fiber]

Not exactly cause there are different endings and different paths

[solid dome]

4 endings, right?

[tawny flume]

Open world etc free roam

[keen rune]

Yall should check out Chaoticism in the meantime, his challenge runs on the Stalker games never fails to fail me

[hardy bear]

Well, as in the story doesn’t feature any proc gen is what I meant

[solid dome]

Rumour goes it'll be 4 endings in the base game

[hazy helm]

Stalker 2 is a story game

[tawny flume]

Be more linear ?

[solid dome]

4 endings in base game + 2 in each expansion

[hazy helm]

what?

[fossil fiber]

It's in an article so more than a rumour

[hardy bear]

You’ll be guided through the world linearly, but those spaces are still large. So I guess it’ll be a semi-open world I suppose

[keen rune]

You want lineal? Metro is the series for you

[solid dome]

We're in for a sweet ride

[hazy helm]

Stalker 2 will have a story withj plenty of options

[tawny flume]

No saying is it more linear

[keen rune]

And we're not meeting Willy Wonka that's for sure

[hazy helm]

it will be more open than the original games

[tawny flume]

Oh

[solid dome]

I'm speculating expansions will provide 2 endings each, whether true or not, remains to be seen

[hardy bear]

Basically areas are locked off until certain story moments, but there’s still space large enough for it to feel pretty open

[keen rune]

Assuming the expansions will dive deep into the main story, but hard to tell since the story hasn't even been told yet

[solid dome]

We will go to Wayne's World

[hazy helm]

we need to remember S2 will be fully open world

but to answer his question

[solid dome]

A blood shed through the longest cave system in The Zone

Rambo can't compare

[hazy helm]

Stalker 2 will have randomness borne from simulated AI
but it will not have procedural generation

[tawny flume]

Ah

[hazy helm]

proc gen is completely different from randomity

[hardy bear]

I’m assuming they’ll just use brain scorcher type systems to block off areas

[solid dome]

Say, Skif's World

[keen rune]

Assuming some areas won't be accesible until end game, like the CNPP.

[solid dome]

Both don't fit in STALKER 2's scope

Who gives a crap!

[fossil fiber]

It's an open world game with a set story that includes different paths you can take. It will also have dynamic encounters (fights). Probably also dynamic events like emissions. That's the most we can tell you right now

[hazy helm]

Stalker already had randomity in its design,we are talking about the A-Life system

[solid dome]

Huh?

[hardy bear]

B-life

[versed basin]

no thats bethesda games

[keen rune]

D-Life

[solid dome]

G-Life

[hardy bear]

No-life

[solid dome]

Like a G

[tawny flume]

I see I like dynamic events etc free roam that make the world feel alive from the story

[solid dome]

No One Lives Forever 2, fantastic game

[versed basin]

What might be procedurally generated are the anomaly patterns, artefact generation, etc., when they change after emissions

[hazy helm]

artifact generation isnt procedurally generated,it merely runs on a timer

proc gen is different,hold on

[hardy bear]

You’ll probably feel a lot of that then. Ambient npc chatter, roaming parties, and group conflicts happen dynamically in the games

[fossil fiber]

Oh, if you mean like that - then for sure. You can also hunt for artifacts, search for stashes etc.

[versed basin]

Yeah i know how it was originally, but I'm saying, it could be used for it

[tawny flume]

Im completely new to the series idk what to expect lol

[hazy helm]

no

unless you are saying that artifacts will be randomly generated on the fly by the computer

[fossil fiber]

Well, Stalker is not the easiest game to describe It's complex in it's design while somehow also seems pretty straightforward.

[keen rune]

I suggest playing over the original Stalkers, then once you're done, you'll get the gist of it. I also suggest download Anomaly, once you wait for Stalker 2, and hope it doesn't get delayed.

To put it simply, Fallout is for children even though I play it, but Stalker is for grown men with chest hairs waiting for PTSD.

[tawny flume]

I’d have to watch it probably lol

[fossil fiber]

You had me until Anomaly thing

[hazy helm]

like,proc gen implies the automatation of content creation in a situation
anomalies changing places isnt proce gen its merely randomity in game,same with time to generate artifacts and time for a blowout to happen

[hardy bear]

There are a fair few long play videos you can watch if you’d rather

[tawny flume]

Me no pc rn lol

Soon tho

[keen rune]

You can watch some videos of Stalker, I suggest going through the lore because there's a ton, Matt can help you with that, he's the lore expert around these parts. Mostly for Clear Sky.

[versed basin]

@hazy helm but you could use a procedure to calculate many factors of the anomalies and artefacts at a meta level, like how many of each per square km, and so on

[tawny flume]

Yea I’ll watch the base vanilla storyline

[hardy bear]

Proc gen is creating something new from nothing, using a defined set of rules - think Minecraft terrain or noise textures. Rng or randomity is just running a random number and doing stuff like choosing a random item to put in a chest or selecting where an npc will move to

[hazy helm]

unless you are generating these on the fly thru a table of anomalies,no
saying to a program to sprinkle pre determined anomalies and delimit a time for artifacts to spawn with chances isnt proc gen

[versed basin]

yes I meant using a table

[fossil fiber]

Basically Stalker is dynamic in its nature (that's why people still play it) but it's not done through procedure generation

[keen rune]

I'm pretty sure some events in Stalker are random, the emmisions at least if I know are random, everything else is scripted.

[hazy helm]

proc gen would be if for example,right,Diablo loot
a new artifact is generated from a table of different attributes to try and get a new thing out of smaller samey things
we do not see this,
if they Diablo-fy artifacts,that spells trouble too

[tawny flume]

Ah

[fossil fiber]

No, not everything else is scripted lol

[hazy helm]

they arent going to

the idea of diablo-fying artifacts or anomalies is one of the most schizoid I have come up with

[keen rune]

@tawny flume If you're new to the series, I suggest the order: Shadow of Chernobyl, Clear Sky, then Call of Pripyat. Once you're done with those, and while you wait for Stalker 2, watch some mods, I think one of em expands the story of Call of Pripyat (after), there's a lot of lore, so I suggest taking it slowly

[versed basin]

@hazy helm yeah I agree that would be bad, but I was speculating a limited form of it, either in how much variation you get, or at a low level, not actually altering the stats of artefacts and creating them and so on.

[tawny flume]

Oh ok

[versed basin]

in any case, I don't see them doing anything like that

[fossil fiber]

Not much point in doing it

I wonder if anomalies are going to be dynamic in s2

at least after emissions

[versed basin]

yeah artefacts and anomalies are something that I prefer to keep as solid as possible, since they make up the lore of the game, not just the gameplay

[hardy bear]

Good way to put it

[versed basin]

but some variations and surprises would be nice. Thats one of the bad things of the stalker games vs the film or the book, the zone lost a lot of mystery, most things are well understood and documented

[hazy helm]

it makes sense when you consider that SoC's inspiration is more so Forgotten Experiment

[hardy bear]

Just enough variation to keep repeat playthroughs spicy

[hazy helm]

as RSPs inspirations were left when development shifted from SOL to SSOC

[versed basin]

ahh wait so what is forgotten experiment, I don't think I've heard of it

[hazy helm]

Strugatsky Bros. short story about a group spellunking in abandoned laboratories uncovering their dark secrets

familiar?

[fossil fiber]

Not sure I agree about the mystery part. There are still things that we don't have explanations for

[versed basin]

hmm not familiar to me. I've read many of their works but not that one yet. I'm also missing some from the noon universe

[hazy helm]

its untranslated

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36251120

[solid dome]

Secret experiment?

[versed basin]

@fossil fiber yeah I was talking more about how most of the zone normal stalkers deal with seems... mundane. Obviously there's legendary mysteries out there

[solid dome]

Huge blowout?

[hazy helm]

https://cutplease.com/summary/forgotten-experiment-by-arkady-and-boris-strugatsky-short-summary/

[solid dome]

Wish I knew Russian past couple of words

[versed basin]

ahh thats why then, I gotta wait for someone to translate it

[hazy helm]

im sorry...

[versed basin]

not gonna spoil it for myself

[fossil fiber]

Skill issue

[keen rune]

[solid dome]

Time issue

[hazy helm]

all Im gonna say is
the only copy I can find for sale is in riga

[solid dome]

No skill issues exist

[hazy helm]

I mean paperback

I dont do kindles

[versed basin]

I did duolingo russian, 2 months super low effort only while on the toilet, and I learned quite a bit, but I also watched some russian streams

[keen rune]

Low effort can be explained while you're in the lavoratory as minimal effort

[fossil fiber]

I like the balance of normal, boring "trying to survive" stuff and discovering the real secrets of the Zone

makes the world more believable

[versed basin]

yeah see, to me, I like the zone idea so much, I'd prefer if it was more alien and respected, like no one can live in it, and sleep there and so on. And instead you have small outskirts around it or closeby where its dangerous but its livable

but its just preference

[solid dome]

Holy shit lol

You crack me up, @versed basin

[versed basin]

heh I just hate losing time in the bathroom man, especially when you got diarrhea

[solid dome]

Holy Batman, Robin

Grant this man a wish

[hoary gale]

anyone know who i can talk to about the pre order email having my region as empy in the email even though i did put my region in

[covert slate]

psi fields, military checkpoints, and large crater/scars in the earth that can't be crossed or climbed, as seen on the maps in the original games

that would make the most sense

[solid dome]

Hard to understand the way you said it, do it again

If your region is empty, your country isn't on the map anymore, consider relocating

[fossil fiber]

[hoary gale]

i did try doing it again with the confirmation email coming to me but in the section of details where is says region it says empty

[fossil fiber]

but fr I think I heard about this problem

[fossil fiber]

You can try ask Mol1t (you'll see his nickname in the GSC Game World section) about it but you need to wait until he is actually awake. It's like 5 AM in Ukraine.

[hoary gale]

alright thanks i got work soon anyway so will do so after i finish work if they are online

[solid dome]

Try another browser

It could be JS issue

It is browser incompatibility with either a widget or smth

[hoary gale]

well im looking at the email through the emails app and not a browser

[solid dome]

Oh

You talking the preorder stuff, right?

[hoary gale]

yeah

like the confrimation email after you put in your interst request

[solid dome]

You want to place an order but you can't cause your region doesn't show?

[hoary gale]

nah my region is in the selection area

[solid dome]

Damn, GSC... Let the man spend his money for once, Jeez...

TFW you want to spend your money but your money don't want you to spend them

[fossil fiber]

It happened to some people before. Don't know what was the solution unfortunately

[solid dome]

Mail their support team

Yo, I heard you do preorders. I want to do a preorder but your preorder wants to do me. How do I do the preorder properly?

Jokes on me

[flat gate]

iv been playing tarkov to scratch the stalker itch but the devs are Z supporters

[solid dome]

Andy, my G, how do we do?

[flat gate]

idk how to feel bout the game

my georgian homie made a vid about the BSG devs and supporting the bad fellaz

like middle finger in screeenshot of update to game of player with yellow armband

im doing good tho bro krezzin

[fossil fiber]

Never thought I would ever say this but probably better for you to play Anomaly/Gamma mods than Tarkov lol

[flat gate]

i was playing spt and anomaly to really scratch the itch

i heard true stalker came out is it approved

u want me to send the vid i was talking about?

[fossil fiber]

I know about Tarkov devs

[flat gate]

my friend blew up his channel has 100k subs now

hes from georgia the country funny thing im from the state in the usa

[solid dome]

I know about tarkov

[fossil fiber]

hm, what's his channel?

[flat gate]

Its called gattsu

[solid dome]

I don't like Tarkov and Tarkov doesn't like me either, mutual disrespect

[flat gate]

he used to make bladee videos thats how he blew up and talking about eastern european life

[fossil fiber]

Never saw any of his videos. Gonna check it out

[flat gate]

yeah idk i just got the game i had suspiscions the devs for the game were prolly pro russia and dont like ukraine

last december i bought it just cus i need a stalker like game i also been playing vanilla SoC

[fossil fiber]

I mean it's not surprising. Russian dudes who like militaristic stuff.

[flat gate]

yeah i think game is fine also think its a russian psyop lol it could be

lots of cheaters and feels like they scam players

[hoary gale]

i heard there was a rise of cheaters in tarkov kinda why i stopped playing it

[fossil fiber]

I feel like Tarkov always had problems with cheaters

at least that's what I heard about it for years

[nimble cipher]

andyg42069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hoary gale]

lol

[flat gate]

can you not use bad language here

i thought ADULTS would only be in here

[hazy helm]

tjhats true with any hardcore shooter

[hoary gale]

well clearyly your not seen as one

[covert slate]

Wolf Bots clearly never heard the original trilogies dialogue at times lol

[flat gate]

okay so rules say no bad words

ever hear the dialogue in game for the factions lol

some of the jokes bandits got are pretty funny

im american so i had to watch a translation video for all the dialogues

now i understand the game and language a bit more lol

[solid dome]

Rules are often not right

[flat gate]

i didnt read them

i never do but now i did

[fossil fiber]

who even did?

[solid dome]

Hahah

[solid dome]

I do, Rule 3 my beloved

[fossil fiber]

Nerd

[flat gate]

i dont even follow societies rules it gets me in trouble a lot i almost got arrested yesterday

[solid dome]

Rule 69 I always avoid

[flat gate]

4 police cars came and stopped me and my gf

[solid dome]

It's scary downstairs in the prison block

[fossil fiber]

what did you do?

[flat gate]

yes it is my brothers been in prison many times he just got back out of jail

[solid dome]

Can you not. You posted right when I said I avoid Rule 69. Nasty bugger.

[flat gate]

this is the last month i can smoke MJ so i met a dude and smoked with him and he brought me to a "spot" and come to find out it was a tresspassing spot so a lady came and said what are you doing im calling the poluce!

so i had to book it and run home we made it home safe though and i dropped everything illicit i had

[solid dome]

She called the coppers on you, mad woman

[fossil fiber]

that was worth 4 police cars?

[flat gate]

i got it back today though i found my stash in a bush i hide my stuff in this town like stalker stashes

[solid dome]

American logic, pull 4 cars, 8 officers, to take down 1 guy

[fossil fiber]

Smart

[flat gate]

i used to hide guns in bushes when i was rolling with a gang when i was younger

[solid dome]

[fossil fiber]

for smoking weed

[flat gate]

im smarter now im getting clean this year and im medicated for addiction and getting counseling soon

yeah its a small town in georgia the state in the deep south its illegal here

[solid dome]

It's a wicked ass world out there, of course

[flat gate]

you can buy real MJ at stores here now because of a loophole though

so its basically legal now

ive had a wild life

[solid dome]

Georgia, Rick Grimes used to kill mass amount of zombies

ON THE STREEEEEEEEEEEETS OF GEEEEEEEEEORGIA

[flat gate]

georgia in real life is a decent place to live if you have a good occupation or money saved

cheap land and house still out here lower cost of living compared to rest of america

[solid dome]

Can a Balkan guy on the verge of bankruption move to live in Georgia and sustain himself?

[flat gate]

probably bro

ngl mexican do it here and come with nothing but family and connections

as long as you know english you could make it out here

[solid dome]

@fossil fiber Let's pack our crap and switch places for diversity

[fossil fiber]

Man, you were real gangsta or something?

[flat gate]

just know theres lots of gang violence some parts of georgia

[solid dome]

Hood's OG Loc

[flat gate]

i wont talk to much but i used to roll with dudes that were from chicago repping black disciples in the south lmao

[solid dome]

My G was pimpin'

Yung Pimp

[flat gate]

its a chicago gang mostly

some have moved down south though and started trapping out here

[solid dome]

Lmfao

[flat gate]

i was a dumb teenager im lucky i didnt get locked up yesterday

[fossil fiber]

wild life indeed

[flat gate]

i had to lie to the police their allowed to lie to us so i lie to them

just dont talk any more than you have to

[solid dome]

Ye

[fossil fiber]

you def need s2 in your life so you can chill at home and stay away from trouble

[solid dome]

We have a real OG here, realest of OGs. Props to you madlad.

[flat gate]

it helps being white mostly too they told me dont move too much and keep my hands out my pockets

[covert slate]

i love talking about stalker

[flat gate]

im could be stalker in real life

i would be loner or bandit lmao

[covert slate]

[flat gate]

seceret trick to getting away from police is throwing away all illicit stuff you may have and comply when needed and dont say much in some countries you can just bribe them like mexico or some european countries

[solid dome]

We do every sort of stalker talk around, we do crazy talks, schizo talks...

[fossil fiber]

freedom would take you too

[solid dome]

Andy would be the Noosphere itself

[flat gate]

i wonder what it feels like to be under the influence of the monolith

[fossil fiber]

Oh, trust me, we know

[solid dome]

Criminally underrated

[flat gate]

yeah freedom i would join if i had more combat experience i personally dont

ive shot guns being an american

[solid dome]

You'll be packing soon

[flat gate]

luckily we never had to shoot when i was younger

i almost got shot a few times guns in my face a whole AR one time at a waffle house parking lot, another time at 15 i got a draco ak pistol pulled on me and another time recently last year i got a handgun pulled on me by a cuban girl

[solid dome]

Andy lived the GTA life, why play GTA if you know how it goes

[flat gate]

lol i love gta im gona buy it soon on pc

[solid dome]

A cuban girl!

[fossil fiber]

Fr though

[solid dome]

Boyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

[fiery berry]

Are you a crackhead? Lololol

[solid dome]

He bussin

[flat gate]

yes i was walking at night and she said she was "looking for someone too" i told her i was looking for someone walking around and she pulled a gun out

[solid dome]

I want a cuban gal for my 2nd wife

[fossil fiber]

what a scene lmao

[flat gate]

no i am not after that cuban girl did that i bougt a .45 acp 1911

[solid dome]

Lmfao

[flat gate]

legally too you have to have guns here

[fiery berry]

Lmao the embellishment is hilarious

[solid dome]

It sure is

[flat gate]

this town is populated by a certain population i shall not name

[solid dome]

Do not

[versed basin]

she was in love with you, you know sometimes people treat their crush badly like that

[fiery berry]

Anyone telling the truth would just say a 1911

[flat gate]

lmao i will not

can i post photos?

[solid dome]

In offtop yeah, if not having violence or porno

[flat gate]

why would i lie bro theres nothing cool i just like guns

[fiery berry]

Of what? lol owning a 1911 isn’t an achievement

[solid dome]

Owning a RPMmG-700 is a milestone in life

[fiery berry]

Now that would be cool

[fossil fiber]

Especially a cuban girl

[flat gate]

no im just saying because of where i live and having so many guns pulled on me i bought a gun myself legally after that

thats it bro im just telling you my life

[versed basin]

I'm a gun expert btw, and your story does not check out. I specialize in Abakan assault rifles

[flat gate]

my real life goal for weapons is to own a AR10 or Vepr ak obama banned imports tho

[solid dome]

Here we go, gun expert vs gun enthusiast, Round 1

[versed basin]

you know what, im so tired, and so stupid, I wanted to make a joke and ruined it, cause in stalker its called obokan right? xD

[solid dome]

[solid dome]

His future baby mama kills, literally

[flat gate]

I cant post photo i guess i have no server rep to do that

[fiery berry]

No normal person gets guns pulled on them multiple times. That’s why I asked if you were a crackhead. I live in the Deep South where guns are everywhere. Including all my friends, family and myself.

[solid dome]

A girl that kills, all you need, she fire, fireeeeeeeeee

[flat gate]

I was in a neighborhood at night trying to buy weed im no crackhead bro

[solid dome]

Posting media is disabled in this channel for moderation purposes

[versed basin]

people who live in deep south are not normal people, confirmed

[fossil fiber]

everyone lives in the south all of a sudden

[solid dome]

Lol

[flat gate]

She pulled up in a black suv i was with my gf walking and this occured

[fiery berry]

I’ve bought weed at night multiple times. No guns were pulled.

I live in GA

[flat gate]

You dont live where i do

[solid dome]

You live north, Goose

[nimble cipher]

andyg42069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[solid dome]

Andy rolls south, feel?

[fiery berry]

lol

[solid dome]

Southside fellas 4 lyfe

[versed basin]

I like how I actually live in the 3rd world, but my life has been quite peaceful, except for a few times, and some USA guys eat guns for breakfast

[flat gate]

I have no reason to lie though im just telling you about the life ive lived its been pretty bad sometimes

[solid dome]

All good, brother

[flat gate]

Theres a reason im not doing drugs anymore not even pot

Just saying im actually p honest lad

[versed basin]

thats good man

[solid dome]

I respect your time here

[flat gate]

Ive seen some stuff round herw i live by savannah georgia

[solid dome]

Chat been dead
You brought it back
My fkin man!

[flat gate]

yeah people wanna call me a liar or think im a crackhead im just telling my life experiences…

[solid dome]

Andy is the real life version of Strelok, no fear whatsoever

[nimble cipher]

cannon89 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[versed basin]

you know what, I feel like we need some fictional drugs in stalker, like some altered plants that grow by an anomaly, and the dudes mash it and smoke it, or something else

[flat gate]

I could teach yall some things if you wanted

[solid dome]

Yeah, Wolf called bs on you

Checkmate

[fiery berry]

Just calling the bs. But continue lol

[solid dome]

Goose vs. Godzilla

[flat gate]

What is bs to you goose im curious?

[solid dome]

Round 1

[flat gate]

What is not adding up bro this is real life

I even just told you around where i live since we live in the same state

[fiery berry]

lol having guns pulled on you multiple times. Could be true if you’re into lots of drugs though.

[flat gate]

Im a young fella too im only 22

[solid dome]

Goose afraid to meet you, bro

[fiery berry]

Yeah, I know you’re young due to the outlandish stories.

[versed basin]

maybe he works with hunter biden or something

[solid dome]

[flat gate]

I used to be when i was younger that is why we robbed people and stuff or would try and do sneaky stuff like selling fake stuff theres your reasons buddy

Imagine why i got guns pulled on me now after hearing that

I have no reason to lie to anyone unless theres a reason to

[fiery berry]

So, basically a crackhead like I said earlier.

[flat gate]

Yes but not for crack for other things dude

[solid dome]

I think I'll pack my shit and head home, work done in 5 frikkin mins

[flat gate]

This girl im talking about that pulled a gun on us pulled up at the end of the cut because me and my gf were trying to get trees and the dealer went to sleep so we were knocking and stuff and maybe he sent someone outside to shut us up…

I work soon at my old job again im ready for this year man

[solid dome]

Off to the crib

Peace out, pimps

[flat gate]

Ill be clean from drugs time to save money for a apartment and get my life straight

Peace brother sleep well if you sleep

[solid dome]

I do not, sadly, but I try to

Hard times....

[flat gate]

What country you live in

[solid dome]

Peace out, playas
Catch you in 30 min

[flat gate]

Get some sleeping medicine if u got trouble sleeping

Theres a lot that are OTC

[fiery berry]

Zzzquil makes me feel so comfortable and peaceful lol it’s amazing

[hidden stratus]

Peanut Butter

[solid dome]

You earned my respect

Its what I'm eating rn, peanut butter on a slice of bread + mint tea

Breakfast for gods

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[half cedar]

Omg!

230 days 12 hours 8 minutes and 40 seconds left!

I should take a paid vacation until it releases and then some

[flat gate]

Shit im unemployed right now enjoying life until i work soon

Should be in February

[silver pagoda]

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT STALKER 2 RELEASE DATE, REMEMBER?
ITS A LONG WAY OFF
DECIDED TO DROP RELEASE TRAILER AFTER TOMMYLOVE'S VIDEO? FOR REAL?
MOL1T AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING HOW TO TROLL 100 RADS BAR DISCORD
BUT WE CAN'T QUITE SEEM TO GET A GOOD PLAN FOR IT
MAYBE YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT
IT REMINDED ME THAT WE USED TO BELIEVE IN Q1 2024
I TOOK JUST ONE AWKWARD LOOK AT THE RADIO NUMBERS AND MY WHOLE WORLD PLUNGED INTO DARKNESS
IM SORRY, STOC
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....
THAT WAS THE DAY GSC UPLOADED OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE TRAILER
SUDDENLY, THE VOICE OF DESPAIR WAS GONE
I FELT AS IF I WAS AWAKENING FROM A YEARS-LONG COPIUM
AND THROUGH THE MONITOR, I SAW MOL1T POST ABOUT 5TH OF SEPTEMBER
WE HAVE A SIMPLE CHOICE
SIT BACK, AND JUST WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER
OR TAKE A CHANCE, AND GET GSC TO RELEASE A NEW DEMO
ONLY I DIDNT CHOOSE THAT DATE
UNLIKE YOU

[fluid sphinx]

I KNEW IT, I TOLD YOU PEOPLE THAT THE LACK OF MARKETING INDICATED ANOTHER DELAY

i've never been so upset about being right tho fck

[opaque parrot]

Heart of delays

[faint vector]

Would rather have a game gsc is happy with and that we won't cry about upon release. (let's be real though what game release other than baldurs gate 3 have we not complained about in the past 3 years.)

Getting sick and tired of early access, I'm just happy that Stalker 2 will have an actual normal release with a full game. It's almost like this is how games should be

[fluid sphinx]

September 4th 2024 annoucement:

Throughout the frankly challenging development process, we understood the time was of the team's main essence. Seeing the scope of polishing and understanding that we can’t push your patience too much, we were absolutely dedicated to releasing the game in Q3 2024, and we worked extra hard to meet the release window.

That, however, doesn’t change the fact that we still witnessed the certain amount of technical imperfections that hold S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 below the expected standards for the final experience our fans are waiting for.

While there is absolutely no way to make another delay sound less dim, we decided to be clear about our reasons to postpone the game for the sake of yet another wave of polishing.

The final release date for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl is now September 20th, 2025.

[faint vector]

Lmao, I just hope it'll come out before gta 6

[fluid sphinx]

honestly they delayed it so much, we really don't know.

these announcements mean oogatz when they've delayed it so many times already.

gonna cancel my preorder for sure, might preorder again later but ill probably buy post launch now as this delay killed all my hype tbh

[faint vector]

I will stay steadfast and strong

[fluid sphinx]

i mean i prefer a delayed game than a game that's crap at launch, so i understand the delay. I'm sure they don't take pleasure in delaying the game, obviously, if anything a delay indicates that they truly want the game to be the best it could be at launch.

but it doesn't change the fact it completely killed my hype now after it's been delayed a million times already

[faint vector]

ye that's fair

[silver pagoda]

im the opposite, i am more hyped than ever - the delay means the game will have more polish than it would have if it released Q1

[fluid sphinx]

my expectations are higher too, but it's too long of a delay to keep me excited

[mystic crescent]

stalker COP takes absurdly long to load

[fluid sphinx]

that's the thing with delays too - people's expectations are increased greatly as a result

[mystic crescent]

is that normal?

[silver pagoda]

I dont know man, I can wait but the release date got my hyped, if the game looks the same way it does in campire graphics, let them delay

[fluid sphinx]

you're also assuming they won't delay it another time

which they might do

[silver pagoda]

If they need to do it, then they should

[fluid sphinx]

again, these announcements mean oogatz when they've delayed it so many times already.

[silver pagoda]

We all remember cyberpunk release, i dont want that

[mystic crescent]

i say let them delay as much as they want, aslong as we get a polished game

[silver pagoda]

2024 is golden gaming year for me tbh too many things coming out that look phenomenal

[fluid sphinx]

like?

[silver pagoda]

Dragons Dogma 2, Hellblade 2, Space Marine 2, various indie games aswell

Along with STALKER 2 of course

[fluid sphinx]

ah fair

none of em are my cup of tea but i get you

outside of stalker 2 obviously, but i don't consider that to be a 2024 release

could easily be 2025

i don't see it coming out later than Q1 or Q2 2025 though

[silver pagoda]

nah, I am sure the game is out september, the blog post were very transparent

[fluid sphinx]

just as it was when they delayed it to Q1, they've done this before

again it means nothing when they've already delayed it so much. The blog post is just marketing and damage control.

[silver pagoda]

You dont delay a content complete game for 8 months, its high unlikely it is going to get further delayed, its all about optimization and 8 months is a lot

[fluid sphinx]

you're just setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect it to come out in september

[silver pagoda]

I am certain the game is out on september, i never believed Q1 2024

[fluid sphinx]

i mean i hope you're right and all

but they're not exactly trustworthy when it comes to release dates

[silver pagoda]

you cant predict issues in game development

[fluid sphinx]

you can though

[tight wyvern]

remember SoC? That was a development mess

[silver pagoda]

they happen and you have to fix, or release shit buggy game, GSC chose to fix

[fluid sphinx]

i mean yeah, im not mad or anything

but you can 100% predict stuff under good management

[silver pagoda]

you cant predict issues of software

[fluid sphinx]

you can 100% assess the probability of it happening

[neon heron]

then why would they give false promises instead of just admitting that game rn is in bad condition so they won't get to delay it like 3 times

[fluid sphinx]

and factoring that into the expected release window

[silver pagoda]

every company does that and has a release date that is heading towards, like every single one ever

be glad GSC delayed and did not took advantage of hype train

[fluid sphinx]

GSC just chose not to and be unrealistically optimistic, at the detriment of their fans and their level of trust in what they say going forward

[tight wyvern]

They don't want to have a repeat of SoC and Clear Sky... but yeah they should not have said Q1 and just said September from the start

[neon heron]

im so glad they messed up again

[silver pagoda]

bro they even said they crunched to Q1 release and the game is not up to par on tech so they delayed

like whats the point of this

[fluid sphinx]

im not believing marketing/damage control, im not that naive

[neon heron]

then why saying it would be released on Q1 at first place😭

[silver pagoda]

thats how companies operate

[fluid sphinx]

poorly managed companies, maybe

[silver pagoda]

i just wrote the reason, they headed for Q1 and crunched and the tech review was not satisfactory

its literally in the blog post

[neon heron]

if every company CEO was drinking piss every morning, does that mean GSC should do it too

[tight wyvern]

making good progress and then realised it'll take longer to complete it than expected, or an unexpected game breaking problems started to show themselves... now delayed?

[silver pagoda]

I dont know exactly, i am glad they delayed though

[fluid sphinx]

i prefer a delayed game than a bad game at launch, but they're poorly managed if they were this off when it comes to the release window.

this game was supposed to come out in 2022 remember.

[silver pagoda]

management has nothing to do with tech issues arisen in late stages of development

[neon heron]

idk I don't think anyone believed that

[fluid sphinx]

or was it 2022? (it was)

i don't remember, it's been so long that it's been announced, then delayed, then announced, then delayed, then announced, then delayed

[tight wyvern]

as someone who has seen SoC builds... the release we got was really cut down. I really think they won't that again, the game they delivered wasn't up the expectations they were wanting. I think they want to get it right for S2 which will receive new content and updates for years, making it a good release for the long term.

[neon heron]

then don't give exact release dates

what's the point of creating these false exceptions other than getting attention

[silver pagoda]

they are not false exceptions, you might have a release date and problems arise at very late stage and you have to delay

[tight wyvern]

thought they could make the window and then somethings came up that really needed fixing and couldn't in that window

[silver pagoda]

we talk about a new engine of a triple A game with very deep mechanics, you expect it to be easy?

[neon heron]

dunno what's up with that corporate apologia

[neon heron]

i expect it not to be delayed 3 times in a row

[silver pagoda]

well then tough luck my man, it happens

[fluid sphinx]

they 100% have, its their responsibility to assess the probability of it happening

[neon heron]

ikr someone's likes lying apparently

[silver pagoda]

they dont have any responsibility towards you, they have not forced you to pay anything

[neon heron]

to me no, to people who preordered maybe

[silver pagoda]

pre order is your own risk, they still have 0 responsibility

[fluid sphinx]

they definitely have responsibility, im not talking about me, im talking about them as a company internally.

[silver pagoda]

you can refund any time

[tight wyvern]

I saw a vid of Todd Howard going to the demo booth and being a bit stunned at what he saw. We don't want a starfield or a cyberpunk or something that is broken at the beginning saying "Don't worry we'll fix it later". GSC wants to get it right the first time

[neon heron]

yea ngl that sounds like a scam if you preorder and then game you paid for gets delayed 3 times

[silver pagoda]

so dont pre order, its easy

[fluid sphinx]

it's not our responisibility to assume that a pre order for a GSC game is a partial scam

[tight wyvern]

then don't pre order... not one is forcing you to do so

[neon heron]

nobody does but still

[silver pagoda]

I have pre ordered and i would not refund even if the game releases in 2026, thats my own risk not GSC's responsibility

[neon heron]

corporate apologia moment

[fluid sphinx]

its the managers and executives responsibility to make sure they aren't decieving their fanbase. It just harms sales and PR if they do.

[silver pagoda]

Then dont buy video games from corps instead of being hypocrite, if you hate corps so much

[tight wyvern]

I pre ordered cause I enjoy the series and know GSC is trying to get the Stalker series back on track. I'll enjoy the game even it is has to release later.

[silver pagoda]

you are responsible for your own money and emotional investment, if you cant wait, either forget it or dont pre order

i was talking to Rach

[fluid sphinx]

oh

[fluid sphinx]

yes but if you entrust a company with your money, and then they delay the game a million times, you will not trust that company again, it's basic common sense and it's a very bad thing business wise

[silver pagoda]

regardless, crying about delays wont make the game release any time sooner, i suggest finding a game to play until then or pass the time somehow else

[fluid sphinx]

GSC are a business as the end of the day, and they need to make money to survive.

[silver pagoda]

as i said, the way you invest your emotions and money is your own choice, GSC has no responsibility for your own time and money

[fluid sphinx]

they 100% are responsible

[tight wyvern]

If the game never releases or is woefully incomplete then yeah, but if you enjoy the game that was delayed, after release, and gave them your money... is that a waste?

[silver pagoda]

They are not, they dont force you in any way to give them money

[fluid sphinx]

how about stop bootlicking developers? It's completely insane to say that developers do not have any responsibility when it comes to what they give in return to people who trusted them with their money.

[tight wyvern]

Nintendo and Blizz... are better examples

[silver pagoda]

They are only responsible if they deliver a faulty product or sell different material from the ones advertised, GSC never asked you for your money by forcing you, its your own risk and they have 0 responsibility

Its not dev bootlicking, its common business sense

you are too emotionally invested to this for whatever reason

[tight wyvern]

If do not give you the product as adveritised then there is a problem, however if they provide the product and more with additional development time... is that a problem?

[fluid sphinx]

they did sell different material from what was advertised, they advertised a 2022 release, and it's been delayed to late 2024.

[crisp ruin]

How about not pre-ordering the game? Not only this game also others too. because I've done it and so disappointed. Just don't do it buddy.

[silver pagoda]

they did not sell you anything, what are you even talking about?

[fluid sphinx]

they sold preorders

[silver pagoda]

its your own choice to pre order, its your own risk like gambling

[fluid sphinx]

that's a concious choice they made knowing it will be delayed.

[fluid sphinx]

they are responsible for the products they offer people. If you deny that, you deny that any company has any responsibility whatsoever.

[silver pagoda]

they have not offered any product yet

[fluid sphinx]

a preorder is a product.

[silver pagoda]

no, its investment in a product

2 totally different things

[fluid sphinx]

no it's not, you're buying into a promise, a promise which they failed to keep.

[tight wyvern]

It's a like a movie ticket you have not seen the product yet and you're waiting on it to be available

[silver pagoda]

Buying a pre-order is your own risk, come on man were you born yesterday?

[fluid sphinx]

everything you do with your money is your own risk, does that mean all businesses have no responsibility whatsoever?

[silver pagoda]

they are not responsible to you no, they dont have to release a game at a certain date even if advertised that way if it has technical issues

They might feel responsible, but legally they are not, they are only responsible for delivering their game if you cannot refund

[fluid sphinx]

so you're literally denying all responsibility the business has in what they do? ok

[silver pagoda]

which is not the case, you can refund easily

[fluid sphinx]

im not talking legal

[tight wyvern]

😞 this is getting tiresome, starting to think you can't convince this one Sektoras of your view. Misgenderov just not accepting it.

[silver pagoda]

Their responsibility in essence is to deliver a good game, but they are not obliged to, and thats exactly why they delayed so S2 can be the best it can be

You are salty for no reason, software development is not easy nor it has ever been

[fluid sphinx]

you're bootlicking devs for no reason

[silver pagoda]

I am not bootlicking devs, I speak common sense

[fluid sphinx]

anyway im done with this, you're clearly just gonna stay in your little bubble of "devs can do nothing wrong and aren't responsibile for their actions" so there's no point in taking this further

[finite dragon]

Lol, people always fighting for those delays

[silver pagoda]

considering they have not sold you anything yet, they are not, feel free to believe otherwise

[crisp ruin]

I've worked in small projects (like Half-life maps, making small programs) and I know even being in small projects to finish takes so long.

I remember how I need to compile maps for Gold Source engine.

[finite dragon]

Fr, this is as pointless as my parents arguing

[silver pagoda]

delays hit despair neurons on people brain too much

[tight wyvern]

felt like witnessing one of those arguments 🥱 just another day is en_stalker chat

[tight wyvern]

he was refusing to see your view which was odd

[crisp ruin]

I just woke up and saw this

I was like wtf is happein

[finite dragon]

Yeah, i feel like moving to offtop but idk, i wanna see how this ends

[finite dragon]

Same dude lol

[tight wyvern]

think the other guy said he was done, Sek was patient enough but the other one just couldn't seem to grasp what Sek was saying

[silver pagoda]

its not my view, its a fact that software technical difficulties can arise in late stage of development and delays are understandable

let alone for a game like this that uses cut-edge tech

[finite dragon]

Oh i see, well i think hes gone now anyways

[silver pagoda]

Crying about delays of this nature is the same thing as crying about a pizza delivery guy who got stuck in traffic while its snowing outside and he cant push his bike so he doesnot kill himself

[tight wyvern]

The scope of S2 is going to turn a lot of heads from other studios who can't even come close to it, even though GSC had to go through tough circumstances over course of development

[finite dragon]

Yeah, for the time it took, and specially the effort, i totally understand the delays, since they want it to come out as perfect as possible

[tight wyvern]

yeah and the OG games are cut down and buggy... don't want that for the new fans coming in and they want a stable release with content they couldn't get working the OG games. I'm sure it's going to turn out great. SoC was delayed many times as well.

[loud gate]

No it isn't a product.

[crisp ruin]

I didn't pre-order because of the experience of pre-ordering and the game engine is UE 5, this is the reason for that.

[loud gate]

A Pre-Order isn't a product, it's your investment in one.

[crisp ruin]

I like older engines than new ones. Also open source engines are great too.

[crisp ruin]

Its like waiting for a book that they just teased.

[fair prism]

God, i have no idea where i'll get the money for a physical preorder
Plus probably a PC upgrade so i can run the thing itself

[fluid sphinx]

a preorder is a license for a game that's not out yet. it is a product.

[crisp ruin]

[fluid sphinx]

the game is not a product, you don't own the game, you own a license to play it

a preorder is giving that license beforehand, just like buying it gives you the license when its already out

if one isn't a product, neither is the other

[crisp ruin]

Isn't it for all the games we are buying from Steam and Epic Store? Because only GoG gives the installer to have it forever when you buy it.

[fair prism]

Does it matter though? It's not like it works on the ubisoft idea of 'renting' games, your license doesn't expire as far as i'm aware

[crisp ruin]

If you get banned over something... Those games you got will be gone tho

[fluid sphinx]

it's how it works for all games, you don't own the game, you own a license to play it and the files required to play it.

[fair prism]

Exactly, it's not like it's something new, it's been a thing for as long as steam has been selling games digitally

[loud gate]

It doesn't

[fluid sphinx]

generally they can take away your license whenever they please legally thanks to the EULA

[loud gate]

I don't think Steam can ban you from playing certain games, only their games.

Idk about it tbh

[fair prism]

Well yeah, but i feel like you have to knowingly try to get banned to get banned on platforms like steam
And even if so, you just get VAC banned, which affects online games only im pretty sure

[crisp ruin]

Only vac ban they do. Generally yes, they don't do banning, unless scammers's account is getting banned.

[fair prism]

Has this happened before or is it just hypothetical?

[loud gate]

Yes, and the VAC Ban doesn't affect Non Valve games like S2.

[fluid sphinx]

rockstar games have done it with 3D era gta games (then reversed it due to backlash)

ubisoft has done it with the crew too

[crisp ruin]

Vac affects only Valve Games. Like Counter Strike.

[hazy helm]

VAC ban is q Valve AntiCheat ban

[fluid sphinx]

not necessarily

[crisp ruin]

Kinda sad about that Rockstar and Ubisoft lost themselves over money tho.

[fluid sphinx]

vac can be used in non valve games too, it's just so shit that it's pointless

[fluid sphinx]

AC2 and Far Cry 2 era ubisoft was peak

[crisp ruin]

İt's just a few games does it..

[fair prism]

Im pretty sure it works on games such as Rust too
It doesnt have to be a Valve original

[fluid sphinx]

yeah but its shit

which is good since i can hack to my hearts content : )

[hazy helm]

VAC ban applies to any game using VAC

[fluid sphinx]

ye

[crisp ruin]

Did you all heard that Rockstar sued Remedy because their new logo shows "R".

[nimble cipher]

_hammerfist_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[crisp ruin]

Oof

[fluid sphinx]

copyright dispute, but yeah it's fcking comical given how they're literally working together on MP1 and 2 remakes

forgot to bypass the stupid bot lol

[crisp ruin]

[finite dragon]

I wonder when Griga will sue his company for being named after his initials

hello. how are you?

man when this game comes out, there better be an option to snor i mean consume uranium as food

[prisma aurora]

Were you dropped as a child

[finite dragon]

[prisma aurora]

Scar.

[gaunt burrow]

One hell of a way to start a convo

[finite dragon]

yooooo jardannn

[gaunt burrow]

Ilaman hi man

[finite dragon]

👍

[loud gate]

What am I reading?

[broken latch]

"Valve Allows Cheating"

[granite coral]

Today is a big day!

No it is NOT 😒

[finite dragon]

how is it going man

[amber zealot]

(Unless you choose to have them affect your game)

[gaunt burrow]

Fine. Wbu?

[finite dragon]

fine

[amber zealot]

For example you cant join any Squad matches with vac ban. No server allows it

[prisma aurora]

Ok but

What does this have to do with stalker

[half cedar]

Stalkers with VAC bans are very unhinged people

[finite dragon]

never heard about vac ban

never played cs more than 10 h total in my life

solid total of 300h of stalker original games

never opened dota2 or lol or any games like that

[broken latch]

Tf2 is valve

[finite dragon]

Twitch drop

[half cedar]

Can't post my meme again for 2hrs after it disappearing. What why I need explanation, gimme lore

[finite dragon]

never played it

[finite dragon]

Stalker 2 VAC ban if player cheats or breaks the game

[broken latch]

So no modding support?

[crisp ruin]

I only played Sven Co-op (the oldest HL mod btw) and everyone had anime player models.

[finite dragon]

when i was younger i played cracked stalker cuz i didnt know what was steam . just installed the game with CD and enjoyed the story

[broken latch]

Why would you get vac banned for cheating in a sp game

[finite dragon]

Always online experience due to NFTs

[finite dragon]

I played cracked stalker because the only discs for sale at the local store were cracked lmao

But then my dad bought it on steam so its all cooool

It's funny how back in the day there was a SoC + CoP bundle and no trilogy bundle

CS - the black sheep of the series lol

[finite dragon]

true those ware good days man , installing with cracked cd waiting for 20 30 min then running the game , trying to play online but it wouldnt work bcz we didnt had cd key , then going back to finishing the game for couple time without getting bored ,damn...

[crisp ruin]

I had demo disks from my late dad

[prisma aurora]

Ill get a new computer next month

I shall revisit the zone ndceagaoin

Once again

[half cedar]

@worthy lagoon Did you remove my meme with the stretched monolith model?

[silk sparrow]

today xbox event. we will get some juicy news about stalker yes?

[finite dragon]

NO

[silk sparrow]

[hazy helm]

Clear Sky is much more closely related to Shadow of Chernobyl than CoP

CoP is the odd one out with it's bio-warian like balancing and story

[worthy lagoon]

?

@finite dragon how about you stop calling people geek and with no life?

Send it on DM, let me check it @half cedar

[hazy helm]

I mean Sektoras is greek and plays hunt 24/7 so

[half cedar]

😄 Aight guess it's still a mystery. It's just gone and I wanted to know the reason

[worthy lagoon]

Send the meme in DMs

[broken latch]

Probably stretched beyond recognition

[silver pagoda]

[half cedar]

It may be xD But that's what gives the great deformolith strength

The mere creation of it was divine intervention... And not the fact that I forgot to unparent the model from the bones and moved the model away from the 3D rig that's desperately trying to stretch back into position...

[loud gate]

Ilaman got in trouble

[broken latch]

Send it in #💬┃en_offtop

[finite dragon]

[loud gate]

[finite dragon]

maybe he is right

[crisp ruin]

[finite dragon]

i should be polite with people here cuz they have soft hearts🤓

Sdalger Video geme

Every now and then I feel my brain shut down, so I go and type these 3 magical words in the Stalker channel.

[half cedar]

I'll post it to memes in a hour with 2 more edits

[pale pivot]

S.D.A.L.G.E.R.: Heart of GSC

Is skif stupid?

[finite dragon]

Why didnt Scar just save-scum, is he stupid?

[pale pivot]

No he’s horny

[finite dragon]

What the

[pale pivot]

Why doesn’t Strelok just eat the brain scorcher? Is he stupid?

[pale pivot]

Idk that’s what they say up in the Batman Arkham Reddit

[finite dragon]

Yeah but we're in the Stalker Discord...

[pale pivot]

Am I stupid?

[finite dragon]

Yes

I am stoopid too dw :3

[finite dragon]

I hope a brick wall collapses on you

[pale pivot]

Why don’t GSC release Sdalger 2? are they stupid?

[finite dragon]

stay patient

[pale pivot]

[pale pivot]

Ik it’s just a meme now to say stuff like that lol

[finite dragon]

I'm the "nicest" member

[pale pivot]

Aren’t you supposed to be a mad scientist or whateva

[finite dragon]

wdym

[pale pivot]

Prove how nice you are and maybe you’ll be let into the nice club

[finite dragon]

I was being sarcastic

[finite dragon]

No, im just a random ecologist npc who spawned in

[finite dragon]

imagine spawning in

[pale pivot]

No nice club for both of y’all

[finite dragon]

no food for you

[pale pivot]

AHHH PLS NO BRO I NEED TO EAT MY KEBAB🇹🇷

[finite dragon]

Clear Sky is clearly

[amber zealot]

Yeah I agree. I just finished the triology and CoP had a very different play feel. But I dont see that as a weakness. CoP was different in a good way. More variety to the game and not the same formula over and over again

Clear Sky was good, but it ran along similar lines to SoC. Its like Star Wars IV and Star Wars VII. Different movies but they moved along very similar lines. Not necessarily a bad thing, but after some time thats going to get boring.

[gaunt burrow]

Lorewise that makes sense

CoP has only 3 locations because Center of the Zone is unlocked

That's why there are bloodsuckers and other strong mutants even in the first location

[amber zealot]

Totally and I found that to be really good. Quite refreshing

[gaunt burrow]

While SoC and CS have a lot of locations and events of those 2 games take place in the South

Not in North like CoP does

[silk sparrow]

new TRAILER DROPPED

[loud gate]

I can't believe they actually did it

[silk sparrow]

🔥

[autumn badger]

[gaunt burrow]

It do be 🔥

[bitter moth]

LOL ANOTHER YEAR

[loud gate]

LET'S GO @vernal magnet @autumn badger @worthy lagoon @hazy helm @silver pagoda WE DID IT

[calm bough]

[silk sparrow]

community will push trailers now instead of GSC

[silver pagoda]

LETS GO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gaunt burrow]

Only problem I have with CoP is that it's way too easy (except Jupiter Underground part but that's whole different topic)

[vernal magnet]

Senpai believes in us