#⭐┃nospoilers_general
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You're 100% the emo kid
Loners are Loners, Neutrals are Neutrals, Diggers are Diggers, etc.
the AI is pretty stupid, so it's easy to abuse them
What was up with the whole Mercs work for NATO theory?
or Duty
I think it's 'blue=NATO' 
at least, that's how people look at it
Like some idiots thinking Charon is Scar
Man, I hope the Black Slugs make it into 2. They seemed really interesting.
Again, non-canon
That's why I said I hope they make it into 2.
Trust me, they won't 
:(((
you can probably expect the factions to be more or less the same as previous games I think
Knowing how "AAA quality" games tend to be, I assume they'll be totally overhauled 
Stalkers working for the Ecologists
If you're interested in something more military, I suggest Military Stalkers 
let's just hope this game doesn't end up being like the average 2021-2023 FPS games 
Oh, I know what you're talking about then.
I've heard about those guys.
Kinda fear it will, but with the time put into it, it could turn out pretty interesting
Stalker 2 will be on the same map as the OG games isnt it?
these last couple years have been a pretty big disappointment as I see major series and my favorite games dying off because of lazy AAA studio mindset of pushing it out quicker and worrying about the actual game later
Maybe. Rostok is there.
thats the only place i want
They're soldiers who took special training after service in the Zone or stalkers who were contracted by the army. They study the causes and consequences of the disaster, and also map the Zone.
it's going to be 60 square km's, so I think it will be that alongside some new places
sounds great
lets just hope that big open world wont be completely empty like Ubisoft's recent games
actually, a lot of new places to fill the landscape, since the map will be pretty large by itself on release
I love Rostok. I remember making my first voyage there. I thought it was going to be a simple little bar lol.
who knows what their future is for the game, but they do seem pretty committed to a long dev time after release with new additions
Well, CoP's map doesn't fit into SoC's and CS' map, so I fear they'll overhaul the entire map
64, I believe
the bigger the better 
The Zone has grown after Strelok's screw-up 
i dont have memories like this im kinda new to the series sadly (i started with EFP that made me love Stalker games)
now im playing CS
CS my beloved
it's 2023, so the zone is probably already in kyiv 
I played SOC from October to December last year.
i always heard that CS is the worst out of the trilogy
It is. You can probably just skip it.
And you've heard that from idiots 
nah im havin fun with it
I basically got soft-locked.
You absolute hypocrite, ISG was planned for CS 
LMAO
Yeah? What about it?
I dont know why bc there is no concept to like tbh
Just because I like ISG doesn't mean CS is automatically good.
i also need to buy the other 2 games when i'll have sum money
I demand you to respect my personal favorite game in the series, because I am the local CS gatekeeper 
my friend,if you want a cool group
use the Shammans
Shaman Gang
become a hermit,be cool
International scientists and soldiers, man! Coming into a hostile anomalous zone, working in secrecy.

LAAAME
who are those?
a lone dude walking into the nroth of the zone with a dog and comingb back without any weapons?
cool asf!
oh ok
me with my dumbahh questions lmao
NOW THAST A STORY!
Duders who coexist with the Zone
so like mutants with more brain cells
Mutants don't attack them, nor does the Zone Itself 
Zona Druids
Shammans are those stalkers who can coexist with the zone,at times even without weilding weapons,and walk in it without ever stepping into a anomaly
Homo Sapiens
Humans, like you and me 
lies 
no thats me 
Truth, you'd know if you studied the lore of the game 
Wait, you want to kill yourself? Duty moment 
I hope Chekov finished his research and we get more info on them
they're always depressed in duty
CoP Moment
driving the point home that only a special kind of person comes to the zone
yes

Nice, one less threat to the Zone
ikr
my mommy said i was special so that's why i came to the zone
she was right,you special
She's not wrong 
🤝
that's why i'm also a dj peach cobbler fan
w0t
He used to be here in the server, actually 
I understand where the love for peach cobbler comes from, but what is the DJ
DJ Peach Cobbler is our holy femboy god you degenerate
well I stopped talking to Peach Cobbler when he deleted his discord
I will not question the cult further 
hope hes doin awright

He's doing his usual, killing stray cats etc

average Duty impression
Nah
Nah as well
or by killing you 
C-Conciousness is pretty evil, but at least they're controlling The Zone.
tbf, if you think about it, everyone in the zone ain't exactly good or bad 
It's just that some are definitely worse than others
Yeah. Even the Military isn't that bad.
everyone is bad for a particular person and good for another one
Like Duty
That's why I love S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
duty are zone larpers
incoming hate
It's true, though
Fallout 4 could have learned some things from S.T.A.L.K.E.R
like?
Making factions, factions.
The Zone attacked them because they attacked the Zone, then got salted for getting boo-hoo'd in self-defense 
Fallout 4 should first try to be a finished game 
that would've been just Stalker in a different world after all
and with different faction names
Instead of injecting every faction with flaws to try to create a discussion, they should have done the S.T.A.L.K.E.R route and make what can be seen as flaws as good.
everyone was so emotionally scarred that they forgot about fallout 76 when they saw how bad it was 
I hope starfield doesn't end up like 76 did
I redownloades both fallout 3 a new Vegas and want to see how many graphics overhaul mods I can get on them to see if they can look up to date
That reminds me of the time I had a dream about S.T.A.L.K.E.R
I refuse to believe this man has not been touched by the C-Con
I still say 3 is the best, the atmosphere is on point
Honestly, F76 was released too early. There are a couple of complaints I have about the game, but there are also thinks I definitely liked about it
Hail Monolith
Fallut 3 and Fallout Tactics GANG 
NV and 3 are awesome
it definitely turned out decent, but the release was absolutely abysmal. If they had waited a few months I think it would have been great
too bad first impressions make or break a game (same way with BF 2042 and BF 5)
I personally didn't experience any problems at launch, only shortly afterwards
76's environment is too bloomy for being hit by Chinese nuclear missiles
Enemies regaining health, for example
And 4's
It's never exactly explained, yeah
Nv is good, it feels more alive, whereas 3 makes you feel like your actually alone in an empty wasteland
NV is literally "follow the road"
the global warming activists designed the bombs obviously
They said West Virginia wouldn't be a target for nukes despite the CIA headquarters being there
If you're going to behead the United States you go after the CIA
Well, uh, some nukes did hit West Virginia
Not to mention the constant bombardment caused by the Vault Dwellers 
I also bought Atom rpg and the sequel recently, decent games but very Old school and progression is slow
I thought it was pretty genius in 3 to have the Enclave based in Raven Rock.
I need to ask tho
Which version specifically?
I know it's Atomic Shop, but I wonder where the Free States Vault Dwellers got that armor from
Feels a bit out of theme for the Free States
Then again, paranoid doomsday prepping conspiracy theorists dressed up as a knight ninja?
Ultra Based 

Is it necessary to install mods type one that I hear called complete mod for the games to work well?
idk what you mean but i play Clear Sky without any mods
Uh, could you rephrase that? I didn't get any of that
its uncessecery to install mods but,if you need to
ZRP for SoC and SRP for CS
Complete is old and even then it was quite bad
But in case you want to play Complete, please don't 

So you don't need any mod?
Not specifically needed, no
in case of Clear Sky,you CANNOT play with complete bc it has persistent crashes in Limansk which is not a problem in the og
Bolt.jpg is out of order
at least I'm going to play the first

According to you, do I install a mod to make it look better or do I leave it like that?
aye
if youre still paranoid the only one I can recommend is ZRP,and if you do keep in kind that freeplay after the game is finished is a ZRP addition
if you wanna go complete vanilla,just dont use consumables while looting corpses and you should be fine
no visual or gameplay mods
!
For the record, I haven't even opened the game, but I'll take that into account
but what is that, I don't know anything about games
release order is best olrder yhea
!!!!!
Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl
Clear Sky
Call of Pripyat
Shadow of Chernobyl, Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat
Shadow of Chernobyl (first game) Clear Sky (2nd) Call of Pripyat (the last one)
SoC, CS and CoP
I mean, for the moment, nothing of the gamma type or anomaly
Yeah, those are mods that should be enjoyed after you've played the original games
To prevent lore confusion
i just opened the game and the menu looks brutal like metro
which game?
Shadow of Chernobyl
Be sure to use Q and E to look around corners, Control + Shift to low crouch and G to drop your weapon so you can manually switch to another weapon faster
G is pretty situational, though
I should fire you from duty ranks for this alone
Are you saying all Dutyers should be heretics? 
I honestly saw that and instantly did a dance
Wrong
For mentioning isg and saying he doesn't play abnomaly 
Duty on top (cant forget
tho)
@pseudo rivet
guess he played EFP or gamma and missed some facts. Lol
That's why I want to fire him
Good spirit soldier
Are the military bad?
No

Д.
the pistol disappointed me

The chat has gone red


depends
of what?, and because there are winds that hurt
those are anomalies
faction
how do you get that out
Ooohhh
you dont get anomalies,anomalies are little pockets on the map that damage you,they come in various shapes and forms
if you hear a beep youre getting closer to one
avoid them
you can also see if there are anomalies if you throw
around
but after a while bolts are kinda useless since you know where anomalies are
So can I just avoid them?
You can
and where do i keep things
I keep Q & E as is.
Keep X sprint.
Set Tab to inventory.
Set Ctrl to always crouch.
Keep Shift walk & crouch lower.
Set T to weapon fire mode.
Set Y to swap ammo type.
Set Z to grenade launcher.
Set C to quick bandage.
Set V to quick medkit.
Set N to contacts.
Set G to flashlight.
Set H to Nightvision.
well i just keep shit i need on myself and drop what i dont need
"How can I remove anomalies from the game?"
Lmao based 
ong 
press i
I for Inventory
how do i remove Monolith from existence? 
I wish for the Zone to disappear 
Where do I find the Pipboy?
lel
Depends on which model you're looking for
CNPP
Which model?
no but save them so that it does not weigh
Make a FatMan too
Stash or Blue Boxes.
just put them into a container at a place where you go a lot
I like this guy, he makes no sense 
so yes blue boxes
What game are they currently playing?
SoC
SoC he playin
He ballin' on SoC
My honest reaction: 
Dude, go
yourself
thjis is such a
moment


Ohhh, to save the 90 pistols of rare guys
no i'll
you
why would you pick up that many pistols?
You can't do that, I'm
'd up
New game leak: there will be a black screen and two white bars, a ball will bounce back and forth and it will be called pong. 
Because he's a PMm collector, just like moi 
@blissful ember
I just started SoC also. I'm new to the games.
I set up a stash box at the Duty checkpoint at the North Gate in the Garage. I keep 9×18 & 9×19 ammo and weapons there to explore the surrounding areas.
Once you get to the bar then I would keep everything else there.
I haven't gotten much further than that yet.
has anyone completed the games with only a PMM?
I only collect unique weapons with the ⬆️
We need an emoji with the green unique item arrow.
Definitely
that calls for a 
What about with only the knife
And with the knife
I keep guns and cans in a blue box in town
look at my meme in #🤨┃stalker_memes and that will be your answer
What about with only the 
Definitely not
And what do I do with an artifact called petrified blood?
Keep them or sell them
Now, how about retrieving the documents from Agroprom without getting detected and without killing anyone? 

you can use it or sell it
artiacts have up and downsides with most of them giving you radiations which will take away your health
So I better sell this thing
Has anybody actually killed Strelok tho?
Depends
I did 
Yeah
I bet you haven't done that 
moments
says it increases health by 200% but increases impact and scratch damage
Ok
Or what about the Pripyat-1 run without a SEVA Suit and only a PMm? 
I haven't touched a single mod.
Maybe after COP, I'll play Anomaly.
Then from where you got the glimpse of the isg thing?
How on earth did you come across long forgotten cut content ?
🗿 🍿
guys there's a video with some leaks on yt, where can i report it
send a message in DMs to mol1t
ok ty
Anomalous Dugout
He forgot the best piece of forgotten cut content
Interception 
What's that?
Just a group of experienced S.T.A.L.K.E.Rs?
No
Hella
Skill
I managed to grab it and still the anomaly killed me
Dodge the anomaly 

Use a 
=
= 
true
true
It'd be much easier to safely acquire artifacts from within the proximity of anomalies if we had a Zero Point Energy Field Manipulator.
we aint in Fortnite 💀
It's from Half-Life 2
right i never finished that game
I'm trying to get through the classics:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Half-Life
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
only the Stalker games are the ones i care about currently
System Shock 2 is great
i dont really have anything else on my list
probably the Bioshock games
but i love the Stalker universe so that first
I'm obsessed with SoC.
It's making my girlfriend hate me.
tell her to cosplay Duty soldiers then you'll care about her 
I'm making my way through the Wild Territory.
About to enter X-16.
Stalker>Woman 
I'd rather her dress up like a Flesh.
Funny you say that because I'm like in the same situation lol
When I find something I like I get really obsessed with it for awhile
So each time we call I'm explaining the lore and why it's such a good game lol
Yeah, I kinda game a little bit, not very often.
But with SoC it's like every free moment I have I need to push deeper into the Zone or move items from one stash to another.
Yeah, I give her updates about what tasks/missions I have to accomplish, lmao.
She doesn't care.
a what now
L gf ngl
Yeah that sucks
"BABE PLEASE, THIS ISN'T YOU!"
"...ok so anyways, after strelok reached the c-con, he-"
I'm like, "I just have to drop off this ammo and medkits..." Or "just let me push past these bandits real quick."
But I'm playing with OWR3 so I die after like 2 bullets..
LMAOOOO
"so that's why streloks pda is, ironically, basically telling him to kill himself"
"AND WHY DOES THIS CONNECT TO YOU HANGING UP A POSTER OF KRUGLOV IN OUR ROOM"
moment ngl
"BABE PLEASE STOP"
"The zone must be destroyed
"

"BABE PLEASE TAKE THE GAS MASK OFF WHILE HAVING S*X"
"You gotta pay you Merc"
I'm trying to decide which faction I like more.
How are Duty & the military any different? Do they work together??
Freedom kinda has the right idea, study the science.
Monolith is a cult..
I haven't met the Ecologists yet
Duty on top 
Reason: Bad word usage
😦
Duty basically believes the zone needs to be contained and destroyed
Basically yeah the military is just kinda there to prevent people going in
"babe PLEASE can we have normal sex tonight??"
"(in freedom exosuit) no, now please put on the bloodsucker costume"
And the military is just letting fleeing criminals come into the Zone to run rampant but nobody is allowed out?
Well they take a lot of bribes and known to be corrupt
Many people pay off the guards patrolling to be allowed in the zone
i mean after all who cares if criminals go into the Zone the worst case is that they kill a few ppl and die
not like ppl in the zone wouldnt kill each other anyways
It's amazing because all factions like have a point and it's so hard picking which one
You would think that the military would try to somewhat team up with Duty to crush Freedom & Monolith.
Maybe use the Ecologists scientists to study the anomalies.
For me it's either duty or the ecologists that make the most sense to me
Monolith "Our god is a rock. How cool is that?"
loners forever
Yeah, Strelok seems more of the loner type
Monolith has the best point ngl
I think containing and destroying the zone is best for the world
The ecologists mostly just study and try to understand stuff
Clear Sky does kinda the same dont they?
Wasn't Strelok sent in by the military tho?
Which I also think is the other best faction for obvious reasons
Yeah I guess so
I honestly do not know lol
idk i play CS at the moment and im not sure if i heard or seen that (i probably wasnt paying too much attention)
That is fair
actually how long is CS?
All depends on if you only do story stuff or not
gets into zone via military
rushes directly to the power plant, not once, but TWICE
is he stupid?
Clear Sky researches the Zone to better understand it and to coexist with it
thats what i've seen but yeah i might've missed sumthing
Scar
@pseudo rivet how does one become a Legend of the Zone?
💀
Be very active in the server
lemme just delete the evidence of me being actually stoopid rq
the zone never forgets
The Zone will remember that...
Only Strelok forgets

meeting John Radiation, CEO of Radiation, TWICE, does a lot to your memory.
And how do you plan to destroy it? 
Anti-Radiation
excellent

CoP moment
nah its a
moment
How dare you ask something intelligent
Ez, I'm not Duty 
So... ||The monolith isn't a wish granter but just some sentient irradiated rock who's entire goal is to keep the Zone radioactive and adventurers away from it?||
Former friends met each other back in the Zone, eventually made their own group
Did you reach the end of SoC?
thats about it?
With other words, finished it?
Not as dramatic as Duty, yeah
well that was a quick explanation if i've ever read one
No, I'm about to aid the Ecologists in getting to Yantar. Then I'm entering X-16.
sadly im about to join Freedom
TRAITOR!!
CS forces me to do so
at least im pretty sure i cant skip that part
i dont want to do it but i got to...
i love the menus of the Stalker games
Barkeep's got a rumor about the Wish Granter. A rumor's a rumor though, so it can either be true, embellished or one big lie
they look so good
Yeah, I like the menus too.
I'll pause the game to let the music play or just sit at a burning barrel fire listening to the guitar.
Either way, I'm satisfied.
However, I can also give you the Monolith's view on the Monolith
It's public info, so I can just say it
Are you playing Soc?
They believe it to be an evolutionary alien crystal, which brought the beginnings of life from other planets. It's also they who claim that the Monolith is able to grant wishes, as the rumor goes
he is
Yes
does CS have multiple too?
Some endings will be achieved by your play style
Nah
Man, that's a hard choice.
Definitely think the monolith should be destroyed.
Sympathize with Freedom & Ecologists wanting to study but also think the Zone should be destroyed/restored.
Duty you mean?
Exactly that's why it's so hard to side with a faction they are all right in some ways
If you ever come across a Shaman, they can explain to you what the Zone is
It is up to you to believe it or not
guys duty or freedom? why?
Duty 
dont show the opposites faults, tell why freedom is good ideologically
(or duty)
lol
Well with freedom there ideology is that people should be allowed to go into the zone and have it be open to everyone
your pfp was my wrist watches wallpaper
lol
They know the risks going into it and know they can die but if they want to enter the zone then they have a right too
i liked how freedom thinks that zone responds to how you behave to it
i like how ppl in the zone think of the zone as a god
yeah right
I mean I probably would
Freedom for researching the Zone and it's inhabitants, as well as trying to show what happens in the Zone to the outside. Also, keeping the Barrier and preventing anyone from getting scorched by the Brain Scorcher and trying to prevent people from mindlessly killing any mutant that walks in the Zone
i agree
Duty basically wants the zone to be destroyed and contained
does this include not being able to resist your urge to fk a bloodsucker?
Yes
tbh then freedom is better
also why is freedom called anarchists? isnt anarchism the want to not have leaders?
Funnily, it's actually Bandit dialogue 
yeah i know 😄
Boooo but in all seriousness I can totally understand that
They are not wrong, as a clear sky member you should be the first one to know that
i mean who wouldnt want to clap some bloodsucker cheeks
yes
They call them a sucker for a reason
also why is this
I mean, it's the Zone. Everyone who entered the Zone, including Duty, is there illegally and the Military have orders to kill them on sight. It's already lawless, with common sense being the only kind of law there 
i mean they still dont kill Duty when on sight so the millitary is literally useless 
Are you sure? 
Duty is not illegal, duty was literally abandoned to die
everyone in the zone literally commits war crimes casually daily so it doesnt matter that much 
Didn't play CoP, I guess?
Because I think it's that they don't want a government controlling it
hm ok
They are abandoned in the first raid 
They weren't 
tachenko was iirc
Just like the big military answer to stingray was send only one man?
i just noticed that Rostok is basically non existent in CS
I guess their journalism also kinda comes into this. The government tries to cover up everything in the Zone as good as they can, while Freedom wants to let the world know what happens within the Zone. Also, free access
yeah its a kind of shame
yeah alright
Replay CoP, I hope you'll find your answer 
is there any server you guys know to talk about games, not like a bar place but like about games
Cop got more plot holes then a stingray chopper
spesifically for games
It still exists, it's just that literally everyone who was there got trapped in there after the big Emission in the beginning
how do you get past it 😄
So uh, nobody in, nobody out 
oh wait you don im dumbass
wild territory?
i dont remember the map of cs
Guess you'll have to stay ignorant forever, then 
You pray
where do you go after cooling down the miracle machine
To the Red Forest
Swamps, Cordon, Garbage, Agropom, Dark Valley, Yantar, Army Warehouses, Red Forest, Limansk
hmm ok
not sure if you can get to CNPP
iirc yes
Think the stupid STALKER wiki deleted a page again
Kinda sad how it's publicly accessible 
good night everyone
night
sorry but why do people say just night
i dont get it is it bout culture or people are lazy or what
im asking fr
im just lazy personally
ok 😄
but idk bout others
anyways 😄 good night 
zone chronicles wiki is clearly superior
just use that
You don't need to, you only need to finish their quest against the mercs
mercs almost destroyed freedom in cs, and again they are planning attacks in soc, we never really know why
Major Zvyagintsev is gone 
well they can destroy each other for as long as they want idc about either cuz Duty is clearly better then both of them 
Zhenkov's boys are only a group inside Freedom
my friend,a group of Mercs almost destroyed a group of Freedomers
I can almost swear I wrote stuff Major Zvyagintsev quoted in the STALKER timeline section, but I can't find all of it
could always look at thge timeline
If that's the case, why are you guys having so much trouble with dogs 
Did
🤓 freedom would be wiped out without scar help
where your soldiers at in CS?
Duty would be wiped out without Scar's help 
Duty was really chilling in rostok
Stalker community moment tbh
Yeah, this guy don't know squat 
They still are actually while freedom, well, we won't see a freedomer in darkvalley anymore 😔
Factions arguing over what not classic
Nor any Dutyers in Agroprom 
With the exception of Duty sending Strelok to kill Free Stalkers in the area 
duty leaved after the mutant nest being destroyed
By Scar 
Handing to the hq, while freedom well, set a new hq after being kicked out from dark valley

Also, we don't know if they "left". There's no mention of what happened
Bandits are literally anyone enemy and now they are in the darkvalley
i got a better idea then arguing lets blame it on Mercs
And he's missing the point 
Yeah, let's think that freedom will simply leave they major hq in the area to a even hostile place where they are pinned down by mercs, monolith and duty bc fight bandits is too hard for then
The reason why Freedom wanted control over the Army Warehouses has always been to defend the Barrier. Whether Freedom was kicked out or left the Dark Valley is never told in the game
Also, I was referring to Duty and them having their HQ relocated from Agroprom to Rostok
Yeah, bc freedom have a great goodwill and not bc fight in the bearer is in fact fight for their lives bc they have nowhere to go there
i love Stalker lore nights 🗿 🍿
Could you rephrase that in English? 
They gone to rostok right after being left behind, rostok was their regroup point
Yeah nevermind, this duder corrupted by fanfic
Average freedkmer argument
i enjoy this more then any movie tbh 🗿 🍿
it's literally the game lore
Where does it say that, though 
Oh, no you missed that?
yo guys i left my
in Yantar can anyone get it and give it back to me?
No
😦
It'll cost you
I can lead you there for 2200 rubles, seen the distance
how much?
u can give you my nuts if yk what i mean 😉
20 rubles and a broken pistol
deal
You're Duty, not Caesar's Legion 
With a price like that, expect to get robbed
...of your virginity 



well the Stalker lore arguement night is over i assume
too bad i havent finished my popcorn yet
So, if the survivors of the Military raid was left behind in 2006 and founded Duty in the same year, with the first known place held by Duty being Agroprom in 2011, how is Rostok their regrouping point after the Raid failed? 
Because we literally don't know what happened between 2006 and 2011 location-wise 
nevermind thank you Crimson
you also didn't explain why freedom moved to the army warehouses and why bandits are there now, why leaving a safe place to a even hostile place ? 
The only answer is that freedom got kicked out
By bandits LoL
Dodging the question, eh?
We don't know why Freedom is only over at the Army Warehouses, I already told you 
Perhaps they were kicked out, perhaps they decided it was better to pull all their forces to the Barrier
Who knows?
Dodging the shame of being overwhelmed by bandits?LoL
Believe in your own fanfic, just know it isn't canon 
Pov: a Bandit wants to rob you to let you trough Garbage but you already have 0 money 
The dark valley is a safe place to keep a suply line, in the army warehouse they are almost completely cut, nice strategy freedome 
Yet they still got supplies. How? We don't know. They simply do 
We don't always have the answer for everything
so good that are asking help to duty
Again, fanfic
you're a fanfic freedomer
Lmao this guy 
"Help us in the barrier duty"
nice strategy, move to place where anyone is hostile to you
The "moving" fanfic makes absolutely no sense
Can you send me a screenshot of that quote in Shadow of Chernobyl? 
im having too much fun reading dis ngl
Get me the quote where they leaved dark valley first
Guess you haven't play SoC to notice that Freedom's HQ is in the Army Warehouses 
Also, again, I said that we don't know if they left or were forced to leave
now im confused is CS happening after or b4 SoC?
yeah, but they not leaved, they got kicked out from dark valley witch is not included in your freedomer fanfic
CS: 2011
SoC: 2012
Leave this conversation
And, of course, you've got in-game proof to back this up 
sorry bro im new to Stalker and i love reading arguements
also this way i get smarter about the lore no? 
literally bandits in the dark valley, literally no proof that freedom even remotely pushed duty or bandits in garbage all we saw is a duty checkpoint in garbage, guess who won?
You can get smarter by playing the games 
thats also true
Just joking on you
which is what im doing also while reading this
No one, seen how both factions still exist? 
who loose they hq in dark valley to bandits?
so its actually good that i play CS first okay
Yeah, you can play SoC and CS in any order, but I'd personally say SoC first, then CS
Duty checkpoint in the garbage is literally the same one where they push freedom in the faction war
i only own CS currently
While bandits are being kicked out by all sides, guess where they go and who was the weaker flank?
I guess you could say that the Bandits lost their HQ to bandits if you count Strelok as multiple bandits 
your mind are rooting
Is that hard to admit the freedom is weaker then bandits?
We should put bandits in the bearer they hold pretty well limansk
A Freedomer is definitely stronger than a regular Bandit, both in armaments as in armor. So I don't see this as a fair match up at all
And why they got kicked from the dark valley? Also renegades got a pretty decent gear, bandits too in cs 
Bandits got my gear in CS 😠
Again again, I said that we don't know if they left or were forced to leave
It's never written or spoken in any of the games
Bandits be like "wow let's thanks to freedom for let behind that impressive amount of guns in the dark valley armory, we really need thoae"
This duder don't even English fr fr 
leave is a completely illogical reason and the game does not point to this conclusion
Freedomer coping fr
I dunno dawg, I know the lore of the Vanilla games and know it was never mentioned
If you want to make up your own fanfic, fine, but it's not canon 
keep dreaming that freedom peacefully leaved dark valley behind and bandits drop down there by pure magic
It's all a coincidence ~average freedomer
i mean after all its still possible that the Bandits just saw that the area is abandoned and made it their HQ or whatever
both of you can be right
Look the faction war, garbage was being overwhelmed by all sides, they couldn't just leaved
if the games never mentioned either case then both of them are possibilities
I know that I know nothing, because it wasn't mentioned in any of the games. As such, it could go either way, with me not caring what happened. All that I know is that it resulted in Freedom taking the Army Warehouses as it's HQ 
Duty, freedom, loners anyone are attacking the garbage and guess who are still there ? Duty and loners and guess who was not there ? Freedom and their dark valley hq
Freedom just given up a conquer is heavily illogical
It was not just a lose, it was a completely lose, freedom was just alive bc they got their hands in the military arsenal at army warehouses and that arsenal is not about to run-out so soon
True
Conquer? Did Duty conquer the Garbage? No. Did the Neutrals conquer the Garbage? No. The Garbage isn't owned by anyone. Besides, you're almost talking as if you think the Loners are a faction 
cordon loners literally joining arms to fight back the concentration camps: no we are not a faction lol
Even though we're talking SoC's events 
then the military base i also not owned by freedom, neither any of their hqs
That's simply denying what the game presents to you
I guess you can be in denial of what the game literally shows to you. That's why it's called fanfic
Loners literally holding the bandits attacks at garbage: no we not owning this, the cs war was just a fanfic? Valerian who is this guy?
I guess one could say that Rostok isn't owned by Duty, either 
Again, weren't we literally talking about SoC?
no one owns nothing in the zone~ freedom fanfic
Me: talking about the lore
Freedomer: so i just cope
Lmao the amount of copium this guy snorted is insane 
i wonder what a devs reaction to this arguement would be
this is what i was thinking of you
The devs know less about the lore then you homie
i mean are they?
Despite me literally not making up lore right here on the spot, unlike you? 
Oh, you're so wrong with this one 
Unless you're referring to Rock_4
Not making lore: yeah freedom just leaved, it's totally true, lukash told me before marked one put a bullet in his head
In that case, yeah 💀
arent the devs the ones who make up the lore and make it into the game after all?
That's not the same team of the ogs
Damn, Lukash told you? Show me an in-game screenshot as proof, please 
they still should have an idea of what universe and lore they are continueing?
yeah he told me that freedomers are loosers
Yes, but the GSC of the previous games aren't the same GSC as the ones who are making S.T.2
They do
Still waiting for the screenshot 
still waiting for you to look the faction war map and look the soc map
nice, still learned nothing i see
Indeed, you didn't make a point 
This is called interpretation illiteracy
I did, you just don't accept it bc of your own cope
AKA fanfic? 
No, I'm serious. You literally didn't make a point right there 
Freedom attacking bandits from the east and then freedpm disappeared like magic in the garbage in soc and in their hq as well, and bandits appearing there
It's just a coincidence~freedomer



Not really a coincidence, as that's exactly what SoC shows us 
good to know that you're finally admitting that freedom lose
its still possible that bandits just saw the abandoned Freedom HQ in Dark Valley as Freedom moved out from there for strategic reasons as i said b4 both of you could be right if the game never mentioned that
They are literally at war, freedom give up their hq to bandits at middle of the war makes no sense
you dont know how frequent the attacks of the bandits were on the old Freedom HQ im pretty sure
I still haven't. Guess your interpretation of what I'm saying is what might make you cope 
Freedom was weak by the mercs war and set a war with both bandits and duty in the garbage, what point did you missed?
you also cant know how many ppl were working on moving the shit from the old Freedom HQ to the new one
They just left a whole arsenal there, but of course just another coincidence 
Duty was weakened after the waves upon waves of mutants attacked them, so the Army swooped in, took their HQ and Duty was forced to relocate to Rostok 
Who is still at garbage ?
See? That's called fanfic 
At same place they conquered in cs ?
you can literally see duty in the checkpoint in the game: fanfic
You can't see in the game: absolutely true lukash told me fr fr fr
Damn, he still interpreting this the wrong way 
I resemble that statement
Okay, how about this. I suggest you to double down on learning English, so you won't make mistakes when interpreting what I said with something you want me to say 
Duty capturing the checkpoint between garbage in cs the same place they are in soc: fanfic man
Freedom leaving dark valley, the arsenal, anything, during a war: it's true fr fr fr
You arguments: no one talk about, even if it's very explicitly what happened so I'm just blind
No one talks about valerian, still he did what he did
He's honestly just using gibberish at this moment, so I don't know if this is Top 10
Definitely not number 1
cope pointed freedomer
You're not about to leave your hq again to a renegade right? You do this too much
Can't help it you need to fanfic the game even though we don't know what happened 
Huh, funny, I thought you said they were Bandits 
yeah let's accept they peacefully leaved anything behind
Nah
i dont think this question was ever planned to be answered ngl
They even opened the other side of the complex to the bandits and the storage to then, so nice of then, are you sure they are not friends?
i have a feeling that they wanted to make some sort of "cliffhanger" with this or sumthing
and from what i see it worked
Look dude, if you want me to be right about something I've never said, that's up to you. But it doesn't mean I agree with what you want me to say 
Do you think someone planned something at all?


I need to throw a bolt at this anomaly
Stalker lore is very confusing homie, have you played cop?
best stalker
but god damn you 2 have been arguing over this for 1.5 hours LMAO
and im having a lot of fun over watching this
I had a run in with this guy the other night
Yeah, I'm sorry dawg, but I can't accept it when someone makes up his own lore 
np im having fun
yeah you're the crying dude who threats anyone who disagree on you
Why don't we all just kiss and make up

They leaved hum, let's ask lukash
better idea
No, I just said you were rude and abrasive and you wouldn't let down.
wheres gaj when you need him
Why dont we all just pray to our god
?

I already asked for a screenshot a while ago and still haven't gotten one 
i can point you threats speaks for you if you have amnesia
🙏
C-Con 
who's Gaj?
Gajunas
this doesnt help me out too much
The tomato man
Used to be a moderator on here, just like me
okay thats helping a bit more
Pomidoras 🍅
Also you're playing in a weid order dude
Cs before soc will make you miss the soc plot
he was the lore master
i only bought CS like half a year ago cuz why not
knew every shred of stalker lore
If i was you i would stop cs and play soc now
no money 🙂
game is 5 bux 💀

I have bad news for you then
Cs ending is a big spoiler to soc
Although I do recommend playing SoC before CS, it's not that bad of a mix up
Because, with SoC, you learn way more about CS' antagonists
meh idrc
Soc is like fallout 1, they have the best atmosphere in the series 
It honestly isn't, because that spoiler would probably be the very begin of SoC 
Is it true there's a Merc voice line saying "Come back when you learn English."?
im literally in a discord server where most of the ppl are talking about the lore i already know a few of spoilers from games
how
🤨
the ending tells you literally nothing
You know some small stuff, the big stuff is about strelok
at best it gives you some vague notions of what happened
Wouldn't know, you can probably ask @hazy helm
I don't think you have played cs
I did
I think 3's atmosphere is the best.
Funny, with all you've said, I was thinking the same thing about you 
Get out here
F3 and Tactics gang 
New Vegas
Thanks for the coping show
Disgusting
🧱
New Vegas' is pretty good. Walking in the desert at night.
The hub fellas forever
yeah i love it
Literally oof
keep going please 1 and half an hour wasnt enough of this show
Thanks for getting here in the end of the conversation
👍
lets be real for a sec my honest opinion is: 
Ngl, it was kinda funny to see him cope tbh 
i had the most fun i think
i was thinking the same about you
Guys, should I play Anomaly?
No
Yeah, but we know you're more of a fanfic kinda guy, so it's not true either way 
i had the most fun just looking over it while playing the game and laughing my ass off
Nah
also trolling in a bit but thats just a me thing
yeah let's accept your fanfic that freedom peacefully leaved
my point still stands regardless 🤨
Guess he really has to just take what I say and turn it back to me, because he just doesn't want to accept being wrong 
by saying cope your saying you no longer are able to make a compelling argument
A fellow Cheez-It enjoyer.
i love that even the mod joins in regarding this arguement
I can literally show what you talked about freedom during after the cs events
or whatever im tryna say my english is too bad tbh
Not as bad as Fuji, so don't worry about it
You literally defended the statement that bandits raided dark valley

that doesnt mean that they kicked Freedom out 
@silent crescent look the whole conversation
raiding and getting someone out are 2 different things
Again, I said that it could have happened, but also that it could not have happened
it is way better to play soc first
it's the first game in the series with it's own long and painful development history that kinda reflects on level-design and gameplay
We simply don't know 
also it feels differently from other games smh
You literally send a counter to the dude, you're saying that you're wrong on what yourself said?
Remember what I said about interpretation?
Isn't a fanfic when it's you who are saying right?
You're wrong again 
double standards hum?
gotta make another popcorn i feel like 
Guess you really couldn't take it being proven wrong several times in a row 
@pseudo rivet gotta go get screen shots of your own text to back up your points in times like these
i'll imbed them for yah
i don't need you prove it for me
#💬┃en_offtop message
love this mod 
this dude went scrolling back to march
Thanks for debating with yourself Crimson
i gotta admit thats dedication
Question is, did that actually happen?
We don't know that
too late crimsom, you already said it yourself
bro is way too passionate about this arguement LMAOOOO
Indeed, I did 
you even set screenshots to back up
im sitting here playing lego rock raiders and trying to write a paper
He can't stand being wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks for this crimson
so i gotta admit i have missed a bit of context lol
im not the only one having too much fun with this then 
You just get here with a cheap parachute
Again, interpretation 
bro im just falling out of the plane no parachute
they started arguing if Bandits kicked Freedom out from Dark Valley or they left by themselves
im gonna stick the landing with my knees
Duder's gonna land like a cat
Then lemme use your own words
"Except the Bandits literally said they had problems with Freedom, but that Yoga didn't allow them to "take a bite out of them". As we can see in SoC, Dark Valley isn't lead by Yoga, but by Borov"
And those problems are ? Dark valley and the cs war
but if you wanna read you got 2 hours of texts to read then LMAO
i've seen this argument a million times
not reading 2 hours of text i already know what it says
Sure, they've had problems, but we don't know what happened in that time period 
Are you sure friend ? To make it clear to anyone let me show you what commentary you have replied in question
"yeah bro, they deadass let them have the base, they left for army warehouses, no indication that the bandits raided and killed all freedomers left in the dark valley."
I'm sure friend, thanks for asking 
You're talking about dark valley, you, literally you
god this is just too funny to watch cuz i got no idea who's right LMAO
Stalker lore ME the player kill everyone i see because i can face no repercussions epic win
My honest reaction

Speculation =/= canon, so the answer is "We don't know" 
let me help you homie, today he was talking that dark valley was not raided by bandits but on those comments you can see that he defended the statement that dark valley was raided by bandits
considering plenty of events in stalker are optional and it's not always made super clear which of them was cannon or not
I decree that we don
't
know
i luv this mod too much for joining in

sort of joining in at least
Thank you thank you i'm here all night
till they goin i aint leavin thats sure
i need to go my dude
Cya @silent crescent cya @pseudo rivet
We can talk in another day, mods are here now
what you think im gonna ban you
good day to be in this server i guess
But Jack is here, that's when it actually gets fun 
i don't like mods
it always been fun LMAO
Cya later, I guess 
sounds like a cop out
we take this as giving up
Neither, Vanilla Gang
👍
mods have been here for a while now if you didnt seen
you've been arguing with an ex mod the whole time
not this one
like unless you decide to drop the n word out of no where im not gonna mute you
Crimson is cool
now i imagined him doing it LMAO
We already know that you don't need a reason to mute someone for exist 
has happened
oh i see
STOP LMAOOOOOOOOO
It was GSC who was ruling the server with an iron fist back in the day, not the EN moderators 
we both know that those wo tried gonne crazy, now it's this hell
dude
Trust me, it's way better now than back then
But we'll never get the good ol' STOC back, that's for sure 
that was peak era
Definitely
but during the great purge they banned so many high quality chatters
i've been in this server for almost a year without knowing it
For no good reason
Just like some mods making up arguments to mute people 
get over your self pal
Then the weebs took over and the mods weren't allowed to do anything about it, since GSC took over the job 
Let me guess, RU or UA mods?
nah hes talking about the time i muted waifu slayer for like 10 minutes
Ru, what is ru?
Russian i assume
Hours 
Yeah sure
Back in the day, we had Russian channels and Russian mods 
i mean Jack has rights to the logs of the server doesnt he?
He should, unless GSC changed it
i mean im not sure if he can share the logs tho
I already saw too much here my dude
wdym?
Mods are bad trust me 
i kinda like Jack ngl
Trust only crimson
😳
ha
It's the best example 
Fuji is just making me more and more confused
came to the neutral network
You too @pseudo rivet


