#⭐┃nospoilers_general

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cobalt nexus
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Turn your back and count to ten

jagged gale
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Fact that you're even asking this here tells me you're irritated

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Even better it's relatable because I tend to do the same

tidal eagle
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Stab him in the face

pearl frigate
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Hi all, hope your all keeping well. I’m here due to playing Stalker Anomaly, I’ve mentioned it here before but some took offence to me mentioning it. If there are any people here who play Anomaly it would be great to chat to some of you about it in here or dm. Many thanks

finite summit
sleek tundra
finite summit
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He still thinks that Anomaly is THE Stalker and refuses to believe in the vanilla trilogy

sleek tundra
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Stalker anomaly is one of the mods ever made

hazy helm
cobalt nexus
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Anomaly is good in many ways but just as bad. The foundation is great and the fact that it brings so many new people to the franchise. The big flaw in my opinion though is the story, the non cannon sequel story is okay but It would be vastly better if it had the original 3 stories instead that have to be played in order before the anomaly storylines start. I dunno maybe Im just wrong

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I had someone claim they are a Stalker Veteran because they had put over 1000 hours into Anomaly. eft_FacePalm No you are an Anomaly veteran, to be a Stalker veteran you need to start by playing Stalker.

hazy helm
cobalt nexus
hazy helm
cobalt nexus
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Some of the devs are at 4A games right?

hazy helm
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Like you'd never see a engine overhaul be free in other communities but the stalker is so decentralised and generally ungoverned for so long that you effectively can't police it

hazy helm
silver pagoda
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Good morning anomaly fans

hazy helm
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Hey sek how're you doin

zenith flint
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Yo

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What is the difference between a gun with a green arrow and without?

hazy helm
zenith flint
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"Experimental prototype of the fort gun" but still has the same stats of a normel one.

hazy helm
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Like I said,read the description

cyan canopy
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SoC or CS

zenith flint
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SoC

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Can I send a picture?

zenith flint
hazy helm
thorny girder
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hello, does anyone know if there exists a mod for any of the stalker games that would allow you to play the main story in a co-op mode with friends?

hazy helm
thorny girder
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unfortunate :<

velvet mauve
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Hopefully one day they'll give us the multiplayer we actually want

hazy helm
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btw @velvet mauve if you mean COOP the developers have said multiple times they are against putting it in the game

velvet mauve
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Im well aware

hazy helm
velvet mauve
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Ok?

hazy helm
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will probably be like Survarium tbh,thats what most likely to happen

velvet mauve
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Ok?

tight timber
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But why do I see that it is coming for only series X/S?

hazy helm
timid trail
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Guys I have a question

hazy helm
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shoot

timid trail
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I need to do in Call of Pripyat the Scientists quest, the one at the cooling tower

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But the anomaly doesn’t appear

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I know that I need to have the veles detector but I don’t know where to find it since that eh the scientists didn’t give me nothing at all

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Maybe it’s a bug of the Gunslinger mod ?

hazy helm
timid trail
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Mmmh owl ask to give them 3 detectors right?

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It’s that the quest I presume

velvet mauve
hazy helm
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smile_degtyarev it takes time in beetween the quest,so go sleep for a while in beetween them

timid trail
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Just need to talk to Owl?

hazy helm
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they'll contact you after some time has passed to say that a problem has arisen and then talk to owl

timid trail
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Thank you buddy

chilly vessel
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Since E3 is back in normal form, and Xbox will have a big conference there, then Stalker 2 will most likely show up too

tight timber
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But why is this cannot come out for Xbox one?

hazy helm
tight timber
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Even for one X?

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I waiting for it since last year January and now I cannot play 😦

tight timber
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😦

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But really it is joke that only for 1 Xbox and for pc only? Why not for ps 5 too?

spring abyss
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Ewww sony

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We don't do that here sir

hazy helm
spring abyss
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The sony dudes are coming, put your guns on full auto

tight timber
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The game is only for 3 month on xbox

bronze valve
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Guys

patent cargo
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3 months are good

bronze valve
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Is it possible to ignore the ambush strelok set up and catch him

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Or is it scripted

spring abyss
bronze valve
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Im serious can you catch him

spring abyss
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I'm serious too, became a jedi and use your psychic powers

bronze valve
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Btw how do you use scar's abilities

spring abyss
bronze valve
hazy helm
hazy helm
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youll see why

spring abyss
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You can low crouch that's all

bronze valve
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Is the tunnel strelok runs into already blown up

hazy helm
spring abyss
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kuznetsov what's is this some kind of 2023 gaming prank?

bronze valve
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Im gonna go play intothe radius after school

spring abyss
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Cool controller_b_right 👍

hearty vigil
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Damn do I hate modding

dry imp
glacial quartz
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Has Nikolai made any videos about stalker 2 yet? Guy is a legend

hazy helm
glacial quartz
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I think he got enough content off trailers 🤣

hazy helm
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he's a sh*tpost meme channel,I dont understand what you mean

cobalt nexus
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There’s a retailer selling Stalker 2 standard for 42% off. Good deal

dry imp
cobalt nexus
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No it’s legit. CDkeys.com I’ve used them plenty, never had an issue. They actually buy the keys in bulk so no scams and the devs get paid.

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I might get banned, not sure if this is breaking the rules.

dry imp
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oh you said retailer that's digital

cobalt nexus
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Oh it’s digital and key is delivered immediately

dry imp
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well yeah it's emailed to you

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i thought you meant its a retail selling the physical preorders for 42% off

cobalt nexus
dry imp
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exactly thats why i thought it was fake

cobalt nexus
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I wouldn’t put any fake sales up on here. You guys would blacklist my squeaky clean name

dry imp
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so true bestie

cobalt nexus
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I really want physical edition for that map, that’s all I really want so I can frame it. I like maps a lot.

scenic phoenix
vital dagger
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just finished call of pripyat

spring abyss
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Now it's time to play lost alpha😎

vital dagger
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I'm going to go back to get a better ending but i think the one i got was fairly decent

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man, i love the vss vintorez in every stalker game, they just look so unique and cool and they are fun to use

cobalt nexus
vital dagger
harsh swallow
icy plover
tight timber
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What time stalker release tomorrow?

spring abyss
tight timber
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Thanks

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25pm means what?

hazy helm
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25 hour of the night

spring abyss
tight timber
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Thank you mate

harsh swallow
hazy helm
delicate chasm
hazy helm
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ho so hes playing a mod

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kuznetsov is he?

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Im lost

vital dagger
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does the high contrast scope actually help or is it just piss scope?

vital dagger
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thanks, good to know

teal timber
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Quick question, in pursuing Strelock, do I have to go down lab X-16? Just got done talking to that doctor dude and physically can't get to where the next marker is. Or am I missing something here.

delicate chasm
glossy ore
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Yes, eventually

delicate chasm
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Are you playing CS or SoC? In CS you never go to X16 and it's not there in the game, you just cover friendlies from a nearby hangar while they're doing their job

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Read the task descriptions and you won't have any questions...

teal timber
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Sorry just hopped on my computer, @delicate chasm I'm trying to deactivate the brain scorcher but where the marker is on the map I can't get to unless I'm missing something

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Sorry it says X19

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The marker for the entrance to lab X19 I can't seem to figure out how to get to is the problem

exotic hamlet
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Somebody who likes Clear Sky, please tell me what redeems that game for you. I don't see it. I just finished replaying it for the first time in years and I never exited out of a game to uninstall it faster. I almost can't believe it's from the same people that made Shadow of Chernobyl and Call of Pripyat (< actually fun and amazing games).

spring abyss
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But it's just fun on the second run, faction war is fun af

exotic hamlet
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The faction war system is one of the main things that ruined the game for me. I got really sick and tired of hearing about the Loners losing Garbage and Cordon because they were sending guys with sawn off shotguns and Makarov pistols to defend camps from 20-strong packs of dogs and bandits with AK-74s and Winchester 1200s.

spring abyss
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If you say so

exotic hamlet
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Eventually, I just stopped caring and let the bandits and mutants take over everything south of Agroprom.

spring abyss
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Skill issue

exotic hamlet
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There was no other way I was going to finish the storyline if I had to keep cleaning up the Loners' messes.

exotic hamlet
spring abyss
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Theres a old mod to fix the infinite spawn

exotic hamlet
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I was playing with SRP so that I could have an otherwise vanilla experience, just without major bugs.

spring abyss
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The captures on cs are more like one atack and 3 counter atack defenses

spring abyss
obtuse crag
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Sylky ever played some not so popular mods that are good?

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or mods i havent heard of

spring abyss
exotic hamlet
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Lol. Even with SRP, the final sequence still broke. Strelok fell through the path to the final ladder he climbs and landed on the ground. Fortunately, he fell in a place where I could just barely get an angle on him and finish him off. It helped that, because he was knocked off his path with no way back, he was just standing still.

obtuse crag
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and sorry i didnt play your mod i couldnt use the installer

spring abyss
spring abyss
obtuse crag
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bro why all the fun never meet petruha

spring abyss
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💀

obtuse crag
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i go to the beach an entire rain storm happens i got see snow the entire snow is gone i go back home sandstorms i try buying something its either sold or not enough money i walk somewhere i just ruin an entire party

spring abyss
junior blade
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marked one when laser tattoo removal

delicate chasm
exotic hamlet
delicate chasm
exotic hamlet
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I'm not interested in debating either. I just think it's an incredibly silly thing to say. To each their own.

normal tiger
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CoP does feel a bit ... empty/pointless, and by the time you gear up and think to yourself that things are about to get interesting, the game ends

delicate chasm
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yeah.

normal tiger
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I legit thought there was going to be a lot more... and then it abruptly ends 😦

delicate chasm
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I feel like they had the intention to have the player first play the story, then play freeplay and complete all the side quests (otherwise there's so little point in placing both calibration tools on the last level)

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but like you can't get a full squad without first doing some of the side quests

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the game has a story that suits a corridor shooter like Metro with levels bigger than the original, without a single random anomaly anywhere - you can run without a suit and avoid all danger across the level

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to have fun or any danger you literally have to put yourself in harm's way instead of being subjected to it most of the time

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huge levels with so much potential for more storytelling but most of the places in the game you never visit more than once

junior blade
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i get lost in CoP alot

exotic hamlet
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I dunno how you get lost in a game with a minimap and full-sized map with a GPS dot that tells you the direction you're facing that you can pull out at any given moment.

junior blade
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i hardly ever use the pda

exotic hamlet
# delicate chasm I don't care to argue and I've written countless posts with my critique of CoP. ...

Perhaps I am clouded by nostalgia for CoP and salty because of the ending sequence of CS. CoP was the first STALKER game I played. When I first played it many years ago, I thought it was the only STALKER game, and I had a lot of fun.

I played ShoC next because I heard about it next, and was told it was the best game in the series. Personally, I still like CoP the best, but I can see why people would favor ShoC above all. I would say that ShoC has the best atmosphere (by a good bit, even) and most interesting narrative.

Truth be told, I even liked Clear Sky quite a bit, up until Limansk. Sure, the voice acting was rather grating, Scar has the stamina of someone who straight up smokes asbestos and far less health than either Strelok or Major Degtyarev, and the faction system was quite annoying. However, the combat was way more fun than ShoC's and I liked exploring ShoC's levels with updated graphics. However, Limansk, the hospital, and the CNPP were a nightmare. The difficulty of the final three levels boiled down to the old, "Let's spawn a bunch of enemies with high health/damage on top of the player."

spring abyss
# delicate chasm Great diverse characters, awesome graphics, cool level design of Swamps and Red ...

Agreed, but i reaaaaly love the idea of a live faction war, is fun see duty and freedom attacking each other until a stalemate when both are attacking but none of them is getting ground,while you're siding with the loners, cs world is so alive every time something new is happening in the zone plus the mutants raids on camps on the agroprom and the zombies waves on the yantar
Cs is really awesome

delicate chasm
exotic hamlet
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I wasn't a fan of the mechanic where bloodsuckers are invulnerable while cloaked.

delicate chasm
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That was kinda stupid yeah but it added it charm in the end

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Baiting them out

finite dragon
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I am just going to completely and utterly stop responding to my wolf messages until I get 99+ pings from him.

hazy helm
silver pagoda
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good morning anomaly lovers

celest heart
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Sdalger alomany is the best sdalger gaem, period.

hazy helm
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zak cope

silver pagoda
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good morning anomaly mod upvoters on modb

hazy helm
silver pagoda
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dont talk bad to vasim he is making METRO: Kart mod

hazy helm
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F_sidorovich in my mods I will do everything in my power to stop ppl from using cars

sand fiber
nimble cipherBOT
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NozAr#0330 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

hazy helm
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they SUCKED,they were BAAAD,hated every single second I was driving a car

silver pagoda
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kart is not a car

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i mean super mario does not pick up bit****ches by saying hey i drive a kart

silver pagoda
coarse reef
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clear sky is bad

hazy helm
elfin vapor
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Hello

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I have a question recently installed Lost Alpha is it worth putting unrealistic hardcore economy and extra hardcore survival?

spring abyss
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The base game is already hard enough, i you even got a thirst bar

elfin vapor
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Thank you

dry imp
empty hull
cyan canopy
coarse reef
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i don't think it's too hard

sand fiber
coarse reef
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it's just badly designed

empty hull
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I don't know about that...

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But the bleeding can be annoying sometimes if you don't stock up on bandages early in the game

coarse reef
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again, i don't think it's too hard, though it is frustrating at times, the design of the game itself is antithetical to the whole premise of stalker

empty hull
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Can you be more specific? I am interested in what you have to say

coarse reef
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it puts much more emphasis on combat while exploration and such take a back seat

empty hull
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I can see that

vital dagger
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can you get both the friend of duty and the friend of freedom achievements on cop?

coarse reef
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no

glossy ore
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you can get A Man of Balance instead by not siding with either, selling information to Owl when possible

vital dagger
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that sucks

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not because i care about either of the fractions but because it locks away items i'd like to get

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so i guess that i'm working with freedom because they sell all the cool loot

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welp, i apperently already did all of the missions that i had to do for this achievement for none of the sides

hazy helm
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smile_degtyarev hehege

solar horizon
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Aloha

hazy helm
cyan canopy
hazy helm
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Just kill strider

cyan canopy
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Why

hazy helm
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Kill him

cyan canopy
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I wish you can recruit Strider as Free Stalker

cyan canopy
vital dagger
hazy helm
cyan canopy
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I completed the Pripyat 1 Undergrond so... No

glossy ore
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you'd still recruit him to either Duty or Freedom, they say in dialogue that his squad couldn't possibly get along with loners by themselves

hearty vigil
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@obtuse crag Marked One is NOT Messer tho.

hearty vigil
hearty vigil
hearty vigil
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Just because you rushed the game and never explored does not mean the game does not put an emphasis on exploration.

sand fiber
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there's nothing to explore in CS

hearty vigil
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In fact, flash drives with no quest markers are already an emphasis on exploration, where you can’t fully upgrade your shit if you just rush it.

sand fiber
hearty vigil
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stuff to see? why would you ever return to any of the labs, for example?

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Just to see the quest pseudogiant respawn lol?

sand fiber
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???

finite summit
sand fiber
hearty vigil
hearty vigil
# sand fiber how does that relate to what i said

Because the game is linear as hell, there is no emphasis in exploration in SoC. The only locations where at least something changes later in the game are those that - you guessed it - you need to visit by storyline again.

finite summit
hearty vigil
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The body of the military guy lies on the territory of the factory, but not inside the lab.

finite summit
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Oh wait yeah

sand fiber
hearty vigil
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Same for amount of stashes.

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The only way in which SoC is more open is probably making you backtrack.

spring abyss
sand fiber
sand fiber
spring abyss
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and a lot of secret stuff too, silencers, ammo all kind of stuff

hearty vigil
sand fiber
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Lots of them, and it's much more interesting than box destroying

hearty vigil
coarse reef
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it has barely any exciting side content

finite summit
hearty vigil
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You don’t instantly get a midgame-tier suit for going on a roof, but you will stock up on meds and ammo if you actually take your time to explore.

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That’s both more incentive to explore and better balancing.

spring abyss
hearty vigil
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I think Veles is the only example of the game giving you items out of your tier for just knowing where to look.

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No other examples in the entire game. You shouldn’t get this till Sakharov really.

spring abyss
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while in soc to get the seva before the yantar you need to explore the secret stash in the wild zone, soc exploring is really rewarding

hearty vigil
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While for SoC and CoP it’s an everlasting problem happening all the time.

coarse reef
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see the main problem is that you don't think players should be rewarded for exploration, that's why you like clear sky

spring abyss
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also, find the bulldog 6 while exploring the army warehouses is really great, soc exploration is really fun

hearty vigil
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Players are rewarded for exploration, but not to the point where knowing where stuff is located will ruin all your further playthroughs because you can instantly get good stuff.

finite summit
hearty vigil
spring abyss
coarse reef
hearty vigil
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You can, just as you can find anything anywhere.

finite summit
remote crow
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Guys I finally had a normal stalker dream last night

hearty vigil
finite summit
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CS utilizes only 6.5 locations from SoC

spring abyss
remote crow
finite summit
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But only adds 4

spring abyss
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the highest point of cs exploration is finding veles in the swamp after that there is absolutely nothing left to see

coarse reef
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cordon, garbage, agroprom, dark valley, military warehouses and yantar are nearly exactly the same

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limansk is pretty much a single corridor, the only places that have new stuff to explore are great swamps and red forest kinda

spring abyss
coarse reef
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the last levels of soc are the worst parts of the game too

coarse reef
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well i don't

spring abyss
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like the radar, you can do it in two ways, the road and face the mono dudes, or cut through the forest and go straight to the lab.

coarse reef
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radar is fine, pripyat also kinda

hazy helm
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Im p sure he emans CNPP and past that

coarse reef
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but cnpp is horrible

hazy helm
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yhe,the sarcophagus is kinda poopy,I like the concept and some areas are REALLY cool
but the CNPP and the portal section I dont care so much about

spring abyss
coarse reef
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i get that the game needs a goal to work towards but this ain't it

hazy helm
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CoP did it better,and even then,CoP ending wasnt good...it was serviceable at best and anticlamatic and underwhelming at worst

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and I really dislike everything past the helicopter boss in CS,I like the hospital arena tho,I like fighting in it

spring abyss
# coarse reef but cnpp is horrible

my problem is not with the level but with that shake that fvck the screen every 2 minutes, it's very annoying to lose control of the aim while the enemies are ok

hazy helm
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lots of room and verticality to flank and outsmart,a shame the AI is constantly breaking there

finite summit
sand fiber
remote crow
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Soviet

finite summit
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sovok

spring abyss
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wolf is broken again

hazy helm
# sand fiber s*viet movies 🤢

controller_b_right my friend recommended me a bunch of gangster movies aside from brigada like blind mans bluff,Za posledney chertoy,Bumer,etc. etc.
you know them?

finite summit
solid dome
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@hearty vigil Messer I think was used in the builds, nowhere in the actual release version

hazy helm
sand fiber
dry imp
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im going to mess everwhere

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im the messer

finite summit
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I don't think the name "Messer" is in any builds at at all. AFAIK it was used in сюжет_литературный.doc(story_literary.doc) written by some book writer who was hired to make a story for the game. BTW fun fact: in that story the name Messer was given to Strelok by himself since he ended up in the Zone with nothing but the knife from Zhaba(proto-Sidorovich)

spring abyss
hearty vigil
worthy lagoon
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Messer is only the name of the character in OLR

hearty vigil
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What do mods have to do with this though.

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It’s desdoc name.

hazy helm
finite summit
obtuse crag
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from cordon to the garbage and re fuel in dark valley

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then valerian shat himself and i woke up and realised me and my friend had the same dream and he shat himself

finite summit
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woke up next to your friend?

obtuse crag
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Controllers can penetrate through walls in CoP

finite summit
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no

dry imp
obtuse crag
obtuse crag
dry imp
remote crow
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I haven’t had a dream about Pasha (Strelok)

finite summit
obtuse crag
remote crow
finite summit
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surreal and paranormal stuff adds the thrill

obtuse crag
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and i burned the sandals

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so i did to my friend

obtuse crag
exotic hamlet
obtuse crag
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and so i was 6 stars wanted

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i think it was in denmark

finite summit
obtuse crag
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Clear Sky are c-con agents

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but c-con liked the monolith abilites so they smack the goofy out of their brains

exotic hamlet
finite summit
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Wasn't Monolith zombified just shortly before Clear Sky events

exotic hamlet
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Both factions are led by C-Con scientists.

exotic hamlet
# finite summit Wasn't Monolith zombified just shortly before Clear Sky events

I wouldn't say "Zombified," as they aren't the psy-zombies we see throughout the game, obviously. But close. STALKER's in the northernmost half of the game talk about how the Monolith used to be some weird but neutral cult prior to the events of Clear Sky and that, not too long ago, they disappeared while heading for the center and came back as the Monolith we see in the games.

obtuse crag
worthy lagoon
finite summit
worthy lagoon
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After CS

obtuse crag
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gauss rifel was gave to clear sky

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and thats another thing c-con was interested in cuz no monolith mofo had one

worthy lagoon
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Because CS were first capable of creating something like that in practice, C-Con modified it

exotic hamlet
obtuse crag
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Abakan

finite summit
exotic hamlet
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In ShoC, they have gauss rifles, RPGs, and SVUs galore.

finite summit
worthy lagoon
exotic hamlet
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Abakan is its real-life name.

worthy lagoon
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After they got their hands on the CS version

obtuse crag
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Missisipi music kicks in as a turn around the road in radar and the monoltih guy shoots at me with rpg

exotic hamlet
obtuse crag
finite summit
obtuse crag
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Air Conditioner 130 the americans lied to us it aint no plane

worthy lagoon
obtuse crag
exotic hamlet
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They perfected a design that even government scientists couldn't successfully complete and turned it into a Sci-Fi weapon capable of destroying all known armor.

finite summit
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Kardan says that the Gauss-rifle project was cancelled in 2004(presumabely due to lack of powerful and lightweight batteries at that time)

obtuse crag
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it was a giant goofy cannon and then c-con modified it and only made one cuz lack of supplies

worthy lagoon
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SoC takes a bit after CS, it's obvious that C-Con used the CS version of the gauss rifle to make their own

obtuse crag
exotic hamlet
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Okay, but again, how did a faction that's "not advanced," manage to successfully reverse-engineer a one-of-a-kind weapon, upgrade it, and then mass produce it?

finite summit
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Interesting theory

worthy lagoon
exotic hamlet
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That makes them advanced...

finite summit
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I always thought that it was Lebedev who took the design of the OG gauss-rifle and modified it to be an EMP weapon of some sort

worthy lagoon
exotic hamlet
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Having resources and knowledge, and being able to apply those resources and that knowledge is what literally makes you advanced.

worthy lagoon
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They might be advanced but they're too few

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They mainly rely on psi emitters to defend

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Otherwise they'd be dead

finite summit
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Lebedev certainly DID take part in the OG project since the documents at the testing facility is signed with his name

worthy lagoon
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Like how it happened in SOC

coarse reef
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they obviously stole the gauss rifle from the encleve

exotic hamlet
obtuse crag
solid dome
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I mean the dude, not you

junior blade
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marked one….

hazy helm
solid dome
junior blade
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pulling a little funny prank on chicken man

solid dome
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Marked Bone, What the hell!

elfin vapor
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Soo.. I tried radiophobia 3 in legend and I don't know if I'm very lucky or the lvl of difficulty isn't that hard

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Like in no mee than 1hr oof first Gameplay and i already have a PSZ-9d armor from a stash

vital dagger
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which one of the pistols that nimble sells is the best?

hazy helm
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none

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pistols can safely be ignored so you can focus on better and more important guns

vital dagger
#

ammo for rifles and shotguns is heavy, ammo for pistols isn't as heavy

#

and rifles are also heavy

hazy helm
#

a pistol is underpowered,short range,with a low clip size

#

so get a armour with upgraded art slots and good weight cap as well as artis that focus on weight cap,stamina and rad healing

vital dagger
#

and what is good armor with a lot of art slots?

hazy helm
#

I always buy CS3A armour from nimble and upgrade it with stamina+weight cap and get rad heal+stamina artis

#

that is all you need,even using a shotgun+rifle combo

vital dagger
#

thanks for the tips, i will get more cash and do that

#

Also, what guns would you pick?

hazy helm
vital dagger
#

any shotgun?

hazy helm
#

any high tier will do

sleek tundra
#

I've played gamma for a couple of hours

#

I'm never playing vanilla Anomaly again

hazy helm
#

smile_degtyarev could also play a better mod

sleek tundra
#

It isn't so bad

#

Just don't take it seriously and play for the gear progression

hazy helm
sleek tundra
#

Good point

hearty vigil
brazen patio
#

Why IS Anomaly so popular, anyways?
Someone give me the lore on this.

#

I'm outta the loop

sturdy zodiac
#

Free and customizable

sturdy zodiac
#

beyond that it's a mix of a lot of things, streamers/yt especially

brazen patio
spring abyss
brazen patio
#

Because I remember that and Misery being kinda big in the community.

spring abyss
#

Coc is coc
Anomaly is Anomaly

hazy helm
#

it just,got lucky,blew up on youtube

brazen patio
#

So is this how it starts?
Tourists invading the community?

hazy helm
#

??

sturdy zodiac
#

the schism between base game players and anomaly players will inevetibly filter those that want to learn more and play the og's and those that are content with just anomaly, if it wasn't that it'd have been the announcement of S2 and people would be kvetching just the same

brazen patio
# hazy helm ??

Lol I'm just talking shit.
I'm talking about normies who don't know what STALKER is and who's only exposure to it is watching a streamer play Anomaly.

hazy helm
brazen patio
west harbor
#

i reached the pripyat underground in call of pripyat and vano wont take the upgraded weapons i throw at him, is it a glitch?

hazy helm
#

smile_degtyarev as many internet denizens do

hazy helm
vital dagger
#

pistols are useful when you need to look for artifacts and fight off something at the same time, but also you could fight something off first

hazy helm
#

so,never

#

just use your rifle
has more range,more damage,more bullets

#

overall the superior choice

west harbor
hazy helm
#

if they did that,it wasnt supposed to happen,seems like Vano is the only one working

west harbor
#

so youre telling me i could throw it at him when he fights?

hazy helm
#

smile_scar I dont assure it will work but its the only time it will work

west harbor
#

lets hope he makes it out alive with his chaser 13

hazy helm
#

he will if you do your job

vital dagger
#

how rare is the susat mera scope?

delicate chasm
#

you'll never find it on an NPC, only at the traders

vital dagger
#

i have the friend of freedom achievement so the hawaian should sell it to me, right?

delicate chasm
vital dagger
#

oh, well i don't have that one

round goblet
#

Eyyy... uh...

#

I'm trying to buy retail edition of STALKER 2 and uh... the collectors edition image looks like there is a physical art book included, but I found that store page says including digital art book.
(Not physical.)

So... Anyone know if theres any physical artbook?

outer lichen
#

are stalker tattoos cringe

empty hull
#

Ye

glossy ore
#

having to explain your stalker tattoo moment

vital dagger
carmine crest
#

what great shame i bring upon myself having an insignia from a beloved video game scribed into my arm 😱

delicate chasm
vital dagger
#

Yeah, but machine translation sucks

delicate chasm
#

It's very adequate these days

vital dagger
#

I will try, thanks

delicate chasm
#

I've been meaning to begin translating pages in the order of popularity of searches there though

west harbor
round goblet
#

@west harbor the retail page says digital art book, I was wondering that is there any possibility to publish physical artbook or including on collectors edition.

west harbor
round goblet
#

Thank you!

tender torrent
split heath
upbeat orchid
#

Hello everybody

hazy helm
#

hey

upbeat orchid
#

How are you?

hazy helm
#

doing fine

deep lily
#

does anyone play CoC or no

spring abyss
#

Coc still got a modding community, made by like 5 persons controller_b_right bolt

cyan canopy
#

Stil waiting 1.5 update feels_bad_stalk

spring abyss
cyan canopy
#

Then made 1.5 update feels_good_stalk

spring abyss
hardy portal
#

when you guys upgrade your armour, do you go for the +10kg or the one container?

spring abyss
#

To carry more ammo to shot freedomerscontroller_b_right f_duty

hardy portal
#

1 artifact isn't comparable to the 200 extra buckshot i can carry to pepper dutyers with from 50m for fun smile_strelok f_freedom

cyan canopy
spring abyss
silver pagoda
solid dome
#

@silver pagoda Ran out of pickles already?

silver pagoda
#

I crafted my gear in STALCRAFT using 600 pickles, i am unstoppable

#

I had to join freedom though, duty sucks in stalcraft, so in S2 Freedom is the faction that is gonna die first by my manly hands

safe relic
#

anyone know of the top of their head if theres a stash you can use in the freedom base in clear sky?

vital dagger
unborn kayak
#

Just finished the 3 stalker games ahh_nuu

#

Hyped for the next one

vital dagger
#

nice

empty hull
#

Is your profile picture Shinji Ikari?

unborn kayak
empty hull
#

How rude

unborn kayak
vital dagger
#

what are the most versatile bodysuits?

finite summit
#

human skin

vital dagger
#

ok

safe relic
#

like I really dont need anything but more accuracy for a rifle
anything dies to headshots anyway

solid dome
#

You can even PMm thru
Depends if you have the patience

safe relic
#

if it was accurate I wouldnt have an issue with it

finite dragon
#

i (think i) install the mods that pcgamingwiki and stalker subreddit recomended for stalker soc (although i didn't see any diference )so maybe you will see in my channel some gameplay on it

hazy helm
finite dragon
finite dragon
hazy helm
#

years ago,complete was the standard rec,for some reason,ahhaha

finite dragon
hazy helm
#

controller_b_right ZRP is said to be bug fixing,but it does change stuff related to the game for some reason

hazy helm
# finite dragon wdym?

ZRP changes stuff about core gameplay,like adding a function to let you repair weapons and suits

solid dome
#

@real sierra Kruglov will be in ST2 in the side mission "Race around the clock" where he's walking in circles around the bunker in Yanov

hazy helm
#

its not much,but its needless additions that change ZRP's status from a bug fix

solid dome
nimble cipherBOT
#
CoconutCossack#2885 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

solid dome
hazy helm
#

why is a bug fix concerning itself with such changes?if they did a change as this?what else did they change?stuff like that

nimble cipherBOT
#
GOTHCHAOBANKSOFUSAMONEYROLLGANG#9159 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dense kayak
#

shit

spring abyss
finite dragon
nimble cipherBOT
#
GOTHCHAOBANKSOFUSAMONEYROLLGANG#9159 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

spring abyss
dry imp
#

@dense kayak hello friend

#

the friend with the long name won't speak

spring abyss
dry imp
hazy helm
#

enters
says one swear word
gets warned by the bot
leaves
what did he mean by this...

vital dagger
#

in cop can you get the duty armor if you don't side with duty?

worthy lagoon
#

You can't

vital dagger
#

okay, so the SKAT-9 is the second best option?

#

or maybe the clear sky one is better?

hardy portal
#

i'm playing with AO3.1 and one of Black's guards just rolled up with a minigun, im horrified
turns out two of them have miniguns

solid dome
hearty vigil
#

It was me to contact the mods of the sub, me to tell them to add this shit.

hazy helm
hearty vigil
#

I so much regret this years after, now that I actually appreciate the game.

hearty vigil
hazy helm
#

ho that

hearty vigil
#

Damn I was truly a goddamn retard.

vital dagger
#

pro tip, don't use the susat mera scope, it can just crash your game when you scope in and after saves it's zoom is glitched and it turns into a microscope

hardy portal
#

any downside to just wiping out all the Mercs to get the info for Owl instead of trying to stealth it? seems near-impossible otherwise

hazy helm
hearty vigil
hardy portal
hearty vigil
#

Each merc there has 100+ lines of code for reacting to certain sounds on a certain distance.

hazy helm
#

that is really strange,especially since the level design stops supporting that kind of playstyle after you get inside

hearty vigil
#

Just get inside through the pipe, take the laptop and go back.

hazy helm
#

yhea,nothing really happens if you just kill em all

hearty vigil
#

I think the most interesting scenario is if you progress through the story to Pripyat without stealing the laptop.

#

Then everyone will leave and you will find a corpse of just one merc in a pipe with a laptop nearby.

vital dagger
#

does nimble ever restock his weapons?

hardy portal
hazy helm
vital dagger
#

welp, that stinks

#

cuz i bought the clear sky vest and the carabiner and i sold both of them like an idiot and now i'd like them back

valid pagoda
#

guestimation when stalker 2 coming out?

hazy helm
valid pagoda
#

worth the wait

dry imp
vital dagger
dry imp
#

@tight timber you enjoying the stalker 2 release on the original xbox one

tight timber
#

It wasn't released

dry imp
#

yes it was

tight timber
#

For Xbox one and for anything else it wasn't

dry imp
#

only cool people can play it. are you cool?

tight timber
#

No only series X Xbox and pc

dry imp
#

he isn't cool, guys

tight timber
#

Wtf?

dry imp
#

get him out of here

tight timber
#

The game is didn't release even

dry imp
#

get this guy outta here hesrightyouknow

spring abyss
tight timber
#

Why?

dry imp
#

only cool people can play the release and it seems he cant play it laugh

remote karma
#

floyd these 2 goobers are tricking you

dry imp
spring abyss
tight timber
remote karma
#

3 reply pings

tight timber
#

I let him more than for you

dry imp
remote karma
spring abyss
tight timber
#

Why am I not cool

remote karma
dry imp
#

thats your own personal situation

spring abyss
dry imp
#

thats right

tight timber
remote karma
#

kiss eachother already damn

dry imp
#

pureblood cool blackops

spring abyss
dry imp
remote karma
#

woah

dry imp
tight timber
dry imp
#

Floyd

spring abyss
#

Floyd

tight timber
#

Xdd

dry imp
#

"xdd" strange name

tight timber
#

You said you know me :/ what is my real name then?

dry imp
#

Floyd

spring abyss
#

I'm getting irradiated, imma getting out here

tight timber
#

only in your imagination

dry imp
dry imp
spring abyss
remote karma
#

@tight timber tampico wants to Kiss You DONT trust him

tight timber
#

I understand so you gay no worries🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

spring abyss
spring abyss
#

Tampico face reveal

tight timber
#

Omg Tampico is so sexy xdd

dry imp
#

no

remote karma
#

@dry imp Floyd wants to Kiss You DONT trust him

dry imp
#

man imma go back to Stalker 2 for COOL people

spring abyss
#

😎

#

I already finished the secret ending were strelok wishes a world with no womans

dry imp
#

and atheadax disappears

spring abyss
dry imp
#

actually no she wouldn't disappear she looks like a man stuff

spring abyss
spring abyss
dry imp
#

truly a disaster

spring abyss
tight timber
#

@dry imp IQ fighter

dry imp
tight timber
#

Is that is your number of IQ?

dry imp
hardy portal
#

playing AO3 rn and im starting to wonder if using a top-end rifle with ammo worth its weight in gold is even worth it when the Huntsman shreds so hard

tight timber
#

Tampico will you be my friend?

dry imp
tight timber
#

Okay

#

Where are you from?

dry imp
#

here

tight timber
#

Which country?

dry imp
#

my country

tight timber
#

And which is your country?

dry imp
#

the one i live in

hardy portal
# dry imp

arsenal overhaul 3, huntsman is a stupidly good MP153 you get from Trapper instead of the Chaser

jaunty mason
tight timber
#

Anybody is from Ukraine?

dry imp
#

nope not a single soul

hardy bear
#

Yoo I just saw a flesh dragging a body into some bushes to eat it, that’s so cool

#

But I shot him before I could get a proper look

summer stratus
#

Can I get help? Every time I try to start a new game as UNISG, it loads then crashes. No error messages, vanilla Anomaly, wtf.

summer stratus
delicate chasm
#

So many things to discover.

hardy portal
#

does it matter whether you give the black box to Nitro or Novikov?

delicate chasm
hardy portal
delicate chasm
#

Oh nvm, I'm thinking of something else. No, it doesn't matter.

hardy portal
#

its an entirely different thing where you choose between nitro or novikov as well, mb

delicate chasm
#

I don't think Novikov even can deal with it.

delicate chasm
hardy portal
#

right, it was the UAV thing, not the black box

delicate chasm
deep lily
#

hey bros, has anyone seen xrMPE? it's looking good and there is going to be a new COOP mode release soon

hazy helm
cobalt nexus
deep lily
spring abyss
deep lily
#

its not like ray of hope

spring abyss
deep lily
#

you can see their server and they post progress

hazy helm
deep lily
#

did you see the winter event they made? where you played in cordon

spring abyss
hazy helm
deep lily
#

alright bro

jaunty pebble
#

Heloo people

delicate chasm
#

hi

dry imp
jaunty pebble
solid dome
#

Who is asking?

west harbor
#

whats the best strat against the first monolith ambush in the jupiter underground?

jaunty pebble
#

Question, you cant go from Cordon to Dark Valley in SoC, right?

solid dome
#

No

jaunty pebble
#

But there is a To Cordon Fron Dark Valley transistion area

solid dome
#

Leftover detail from the builds?

jaunty pebble
#

Maybe

solid dome
#

Why is it you ask, do you have trouble in the Garbage?

jaunty pebble
#

No

#

I just wanted to get a faster route to Dark Valley

#

as i was all the way at Sidorovich for turning in my missions

delicate chasm
#

i think it was made that way to prevent breaking the game

spring abyss
#

Clear sky reunion kuznetsov

jaunty pebble
#

Also idk why but the Stalker Suit has NVG's?

solid dome
#

No idea about that

jaunty pebble
#

I didnt aswell

#

I randomly pressed N and it activated NVG's

delicate chasm
#

Though I never use NVGs unless they're the 2nd generation ones. It's not really well-implemented, but does add a bit of its charm.

jaunty pebble
#

Anyway, my plan is to finish the Trilogy before Stalker 2 releases

hazy helm
#

nice

jaunty pebble
#

Nice to see you here aswell @hazy helm

hazy helm
jaunty pebble
#

That is true

solid dome
#

Vasim has OnlyFans too

jaunty pebble
#

Honestly, I am not surprised

hazy helm
#

lol

solid dome
dry imp
solid dome
#

Not only he has OnlyFans, he also has Brozzers subscription

dry imp
#

please plse send the linsk

hazy helm
#

lol lmao

solid dome
#

No links to be sent to posers

dry imp
#

i will find you

solid dome
jaunty pebble
#

Out of current convo, but I have pre ordered Stalker 2

solid dome
#

I am preordering it in 300 or so days too

remote karma
remote karma
#

Cus he wanted to

jaunty pebble
#

I normally don't pre order, but Stalker 2 is different as I know my money is going to an actual proper dev studio and not some "milk gamers till they get bored" style AAA company

deep lily
#

lets hope it meets our expectations

jaunty pebble
#

I have set realistic expectations

#

And I totally accepted that the game has huge chance to get delayed

deep lily
#

i doubt its gonna get delayed again

#

a lot of people will leave if so

jaunty pebble
#

Well, maybe

#

But from what they showed on trailers, most of the stuff looks done

deep lily
#

yes i agree

#

its gonna be weird when we will play a stalker game without bugs and stuff

#

you know, xray engine

jaunty pebble
#

Ukrainian Witchcraft

#

Known as Xray engine

spring abyss
hazy helm
#

smile_degtyarev getting excited for the game,looks to be a true sucessor to the games,lets see if it is tho,I need to keep expectations within boundary

limpid salmon
#

wassup fellow stalkers

remote karma
#

Hai<3!

limpid salmon
#

h

deep lily
spring abyss
deep lily
#

thats true

hardy portal
remote karma
deep lily
#

i dont like the blood effects when you shoot npcs man

limpid salmon
deep lily
#

im more interested in the lore to be fair

hazy helm
#

so am I

remote karma
limpid salmon
#

ayy Roki Vulovic

deep lily
#

cause i dont think ill have the same stalker feeling when i play it

hazy helm
#

but I also am very interested in the gameplay,it needs to be kept close to the one man army fantasy of the OG

limpid salmon
deep lily
#

yes

jaunty pebble
remote karma
limpid salmon
cobalt nexus
#

Has anyone started creating assets for mods yet? I have unreal 5 installed but haven’t spent much time with it

solid dome
cobalt nexus
hazy helm
#

we'd need the SDK to know what we would be doin

cobalt nexus
hazy helm
spring abyss
solid dome
#

We shall be recreating Anomaly in the Metro SDK since we have been given that

hazy helm
#

please,no,dont please

spring abyss
solid dome
#

No, no no no, no, NOPE

cobalt nexus
#

Stalker Exodus.

limpid salmon
#

no

west harbor
#

Do it.

#

for real tho, why the anomaly hate

#

i mean, its a fine mod with lots of content

hazy helm
#

i already explained this

west harbor
#

because of the rookies who play it before the og trilogy?

spring abyss
cobalt nexus
#

Hey if someone turned Metro Exodus into Stalker you would all try it out

hazy helm
#

not really....

cobalt nexus
#

Lies

west harbor
#

if someone does not have the money to buy the og trilogy, is it acceptable for him to play anomaly instead?

#

as a free s.t.a.l.k.e.r experience

spring abyss
cobalt nexus
#

You can get the original trilogy for $5 if you shop around. There’s no excuse

hazy helm
#

no one is going to get mad if youre that strapped for cash,we understand

cobalt nexus
#

I don’t believe someone that owns a gaming PC can’t get $5 together

rugged scaffold
#

or buy a steam key for cheap

hazy helm
west harbor
#

whats gsc's stance on pirating their games

hazy helm
spring abyss
hazy helm
#

smile_degtyarev GSC dislike stand alone mods more than they like piracy

west harbor
#

and i may buy it for someone later

hazy helm
cobalt nexus
#

It’s actually crazy how many people don’t shop around. They look at the Steam price and say I can’t afford it. Cdkeys, Eneba and Kinguin always have good deals

hazy helm
#

programmers are more scared about these websites tahn they are about piracy

cobalt nexus
west harbor
rugged scaffold
hazy helm
#

remember that drama with the curators that wanted keys to sell them in grey markets?
if they got them,they would review a game good
if not?they would review them bad

cobalt nexus
hazy helm
cobalt nexus
#

I guess the point is if someone wants to get into Stalker they absolutely should play the Original games. Excuse me for sounding like a jerk but I don’t believe that someone who owns a gaming PC and pays to power it can’t afford $5 to buy the games.

sleek creek
#

how dowload stalker 2?

cobalt nexus
sleek creek
#

why 1 years?

hazy helm
sleek creek
#

but before the games exist

#

*How dowload stalker1)

hazy helm
sleek creek
#

how get it free

finite summit
hazy helm
spring abyss
spring abyss
solid dome
#

😄

#

Sylky, you...

delicate chasm
#

play Firestarter

hazy helm
#

Haha,I should I should

#

As well as that RTS from GSC,that high fantasy one,and that mech game from them

solid dome
#

The fantasy RTS is basically Cossacks on steroids

rugged scaffold
# hazy helm <:smile_degtyarev:598839640476352525> playing anomaly isnt the same as playing s...

anomaly is not the same as vanilla, i never play anomaly and really only do vanilla soc and cs but anomaly is close enough to the stalker formula, if someone has nothing else to play I'm fine with them trying it but only as long as they know it's not the same thing, anomaly is based off the og games but it certainly doesnt fully replicate the atmosphere, story, and beauty of the og games

hazy helm
#

smile_degtyarev if your friend says,I wanna play stalker,give him stalker,if he wants to play anomaly?then it doesn't matter

rugged scaffold
hazy helm
rugged scaffold
#

i think everyone who plays the mods should go back and play vanilla because vanilla is better is every way (imo) but if someone can't do vanilla, mods could be an okay substitute

hazy helm
#

I don't understand why you can do anomaly and can't do vanilla tbh,like I said,go pirate them,and if you can play anomaly on your PC then you'll be fine to play vanilla

#

Like,ho sure you're telling me you cant run a 2007 game even on low settings?right...

rugged scaffold
rugged scaffold
hazy helm
#

I've had less crashes and issues with CoC and old X-ray then with OpenXray overall

#

This with multiple pcs and operating systems over the years

solid dome
#

Aaaa I joined an Anomaly talk again

rugged scaffold
#

that's why I said idk, i really have no idea

solid dome
#

has left the chat

rugged scaffold
#

some people just don't like old games for some reason

hazy helm
#

Anomaly was simply lucky,it blew up on yt one day and got the ball rolling
That's really it,the algorithm gods favoured it and it got popular

#

I mean it's kind of depressing that ultimately you can do your best to produce the best balanced and good experience and it will still get blown away by some idiot barely coding OpenXray64 just BC it got lucky one day by the RNG God's

rugged scaffold
#

yeah, it's kinda just stalker for tarkov players

solid dome
#

Anomaly kind of a plague

hazy helm
#

Mhe,Imma just go sleep now
See you guys in the morning

normal tiger
spring abyss
past coral
#

Is it normal for artefacts to fly in CoP, if so, how do you get them?

finite dragon
#

Is Pocket Zone officially endorsed by stalker?

jaunty pebble
#

I have Anomaly installed, but I have myself a promise that I will play Anomaly AFTER I finish the trilogy

spring abyss
jaunty pebble
cobalt nexus
#

I have been converted and it’s been awesome so far. There’s a whole world to enjoy with the original games and story mods.

west harbor
jaunty pebble
hazy helm
#

I still need to play OLR but Lost Alpha isn't that good

sleek tundra
#

If you really, really want to try sandbox stalker mods then legend returns or gamma

cyan canopy
#

Back to STALKER its kinda interesting to me

wheat gulch
#

I assume it will not release this year, huh.

hazy helm
#

Probs end of this year start of the next I'd say,more in the end of this one

jaunty pebble
hazy helm
jaunty pebble
#

Yea, i was just gonna say that

wheat gulch
#

Duke Nukem Forever had that placeholder for years, same with Half-Life 3 in Gamestop systems way back then.

#

I think it was never really gonna be out in 2021/2022. Back before the tragedy started.

hazy helm
#

This ain't russian just say before the war started

silver pagoda
#

Good morning anomaly mod upvoters

hazy helm
#

What kind of mission do you want to see added to anomaly?I'm thinking of removing the companions feature to make escort more interesting

wheat gulch
hazy helm
wheat gulch
#

No I mean when the war started all discussions of it were an insta-ban here

hazy helm
#

If you discussed politics about the war you are gonna get warned but if you simply say "ho the war" without elaborating on it you're fine,BC it's not political

wheat gulch
#

Ok, then I will say it - the war was not the biggest reason why the game kept being pushed back - it was just nowhere near being finished.

tribal stratus
#

Hello can anybody help me find xenglish db for call of pripyat

wheat gulch
# worthy lagoon Source: trust me bro

They said first 2021, then early 2022 and postponed it right before the war started.
We never had any real gameplay before the last trailer either.

worthy lagoon
wheat gulch
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The overblown flu with a trial mode for tyranny?

worthy lagoon
nimble cipherBOT
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Zombine3D#2775 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wheat gulch
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Pretty stupid excuse for IT work that does not need you to be in office and with remote you don't waste time on commute.

fervent heath
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Hello

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How to not die so easily in any stalker game, I keep getting killed by glitched out props and weird little cats

worthy lagoon
wheat gulch
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It's a convenient excuse to cover up whatever the real reason was.

worthy lagoon
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The pandemic hit everyone including the family of the employees, like everyone else

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It's not one single reason, it's multiple, a chain of events that lead to that

hardy bear
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A big issue with 2042's development during lockdown was the fact that any changes made had to be downloaded to everyones home system, a process that could take hours if they had poor wifi. A build that gets updated constantly would be hell to deal with. That alongside the fact that many employees didn't have systems good enough to test the game led to a horrible development phase. I doubt this was any different

worthy lagoon
worthy lagoon
hardy bear
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I don't want this game or any game to be rushed. Literally everything that has launched recently has been a mess and needed more time, and people complain saying it should have been in development for longer. I for one would much rather wait than everyone complain on launch that it should have been in the oven for longer

wheat gulch
worthy lagoon
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And providing computers takes time and management

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It's easier said than done

wheat gulch
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If it's something system/AD related then a properly staffed and competent IT department can solve it in a couple of weeks.

worthy lagoon
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Either way, we don't know how much the pandemic has affected GSC, but it sure did affected the development of the game

wheat gulch
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Transparency would be nice. I understand the war situation but not everything before it.

worthy lagoon
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And the invasion did its mess too, since GSC had to face an enormous logistical challenge too

wheat gulch
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Again, talking about pre-war,

worthy lagoon
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During that there was the pandemic

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And well, it's not much of issue that there was a delay

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STALKER series were always full of delays

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More time for me to get a GPU at a cheaper price

fervent heath
worthy lagoon
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The issue is playing Anomaly

hardy bear
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Nintendogs + Snorks

worthy lagoon
fervent heath
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it's okay, it was once, i started the game today, I got killed by a mob of pigs

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I was told to play anomaly? by a friend

worthy lagoon
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Jokes aside, is that your first time playing STALKER?

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Anomaly is a stand alone mod that is pretty much far from the original STALKER

hardy bear
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My first encounter with anything new in soc just has me sprinting and dodging it's attacks