⭐┃nospoilers_general

[finite dragon]

Yes! I found out though a little too late that if you aim with a sawed of shotgun they go down after two shots

[supple bay]

snorks. so annoying.

[spring abyss]

Skill issue

[finite dragon]

Versus not aiming and this is being up close with them too which I found odd but yeah aiming is good to bring them down without investing too many bullets

[spring abyss]

One shot in the head and they are out

[finite dragon]

Lol sewer goblins

[supple bay]

bolts on you farty brain

[spring abyss]

Go back to cordon n00b

[finite dragon]

Only weapon I can aim at their head with is shotgun because omg their movement throws me off

[spring abyss]

The fixed ones you can target if you walk slowly

But the better way is knife them but you got only one chance, if you miss and they hit you will get stumlock

[finite dragon]

I didn't even try that! Darn in retrospect I would've been more patient but I wanted to see what happened with this strelok fellow and then that evolved etc.

[finite dragon]

Is stumlock when I can't move for a bit?

Or is that meant to be stunlock which I'm guessing is can't move for a bit

[spring abyss]

Yep, when they hit you move slowly for a while, just like the pseudogiant punch but the stun is very short, but they will quickly hit you again

[finite dragon]

Oh yeah that's happened

The mutant I remember the most when I played call of pripyat my first stalker game years ago is this small like 3 foot mutant with a hood that had psipowers and I was scared to death of them because aside from looking like they did, my health would drain so quick that it'd be a guaranteed death when I encountered them.

I think they had the same powers as

[sleek tundra]

Concept art, concept writing, etc

You said the factions were supposed to be much deeper

[sturdy zodiac]

Hoping that we get to see the Psy Deer at some point

even just a screenshot would be cool

[sleek tundra]

Been replaying CoP recently

No mods, game aged pretty well for a 2009 game. Only criticism I have (so far) is the weird progression. Some weapons become obsolete almost instantly if you finish a mission (Chaser 13, spsa 12)

[manic jewel]

This video is about Wire post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxizAuu8PuU

[hazy helm]

We know about Tommy Don worry

[finite dragon]

All trilogy is awesome.

[sleek tundra]

Nah, they're pretty flawed

Fun, but flawed. CoP is too generous with the loot and some stashes shouldn't have been obtained this early

@hazy helm Is there a mod that rebalances loot? Might learn how to mod just so I can rebalance this

Call of Balance... GSC should hire me

[hazy helm]

Only CoP mods I know are wither TC or Completely New games themselves

The rest is russian modding which I'm a stranger to

[sleek tundra]

NOOOO, I'LL ALWAYS FIND 4 GRENADES ON A SINGLE STALKER

[nimble cipher]

Lord Trashcan#9358 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[hazy helm]

You're of course on master that much I know

[sleek tundra]

Duh?

[silver pagoda]

Good morning Anomaly loving club 😍

[hazy helm]

I give that phrase a 4 month lifespan,maybe less

[silver pagoda]

Ok Escape from Pripyat Lover Vasim 😍

[hazy helm]

anyway how ya doin

[silver pagoda]

my friends started new wipe on tarkov and they trying to drag me in but i dont want to kill myself irl

[hazy helm]

Hahahahahaha

Good luc keeping yourself alive

[silver pagoda]

i give them 1 week max

[sleek tundra]

@hazy helm When do I get a nade launcher for my M4 - I refuse to call it by the ingame name

[hazy helm]

youll buy one for your great TR301 when you side with one the factions I'm pretty sure

[sleek tundra]

Freedom it is, sorry my fellow duty dudes - I choose underbarrel grenade launcher

[silver pagoda]

https://youtu.be/HxizAuu8PuU new interview and 2 new screens

[hazy helm]

we know Tommy Don worry

[hazy helm]

Here's the link to the actual article tho
https://www.wired.com/story/ukraine-stalker-2-gsc-game-world-development-war/

[silver pagoda]

insane how they relocated and in which circumstances, hope the best for them tbh

[finite dragon]

How will the stalker 2 look like if it's not coop.?

[hazy helm]

The multiplayer?hoping it's a evolution of the OGs multiplayer
It was a lotta fun

[finite dragon]

I like the fact that gsc include mp to all games they made without microtransactions

Respect gsc

[hardy bear]

What were the multiplayer modes like?

[finite dragon]

there's a stash with a gl for nato weapons at the residue processing station in zaton

[worthy lagoon]

Team Deathmatch, Deathmatch, capture the artifact

[ember moth]

theres a M209 UBGL in the Pripyat Hospital, inside a half open cylindrical container, 3rd or 4th floor, military side

[still nymph]

yall see those new screenshots?

[silver pagoda]

When was this confirmed?

[hazy helm]

We are talking about the modes in old stalker,the OGs

Heck we played a match of MP COP yesterday
Very very fun,got to shot a rocket directly at kuros face

[silver pagoda]

Yeh im blind

[silver pagoda]

haaahaahahaha nice

[cedar pivot]

Hello everyone

[potent bluff]

Hi stalkers

[cedar pivot]

Hello bro

[cedar pivot]

How are you today

[potent bluff]

I'm good. you?

[cedar pivot]

Glad to hear that am fine too

[hazy helm]

Kinda sad they didn't give us a radar in S2

[cedar pivot]

Oh zadge

[modern cove]

Wait what????

[hazy helm]

Didn't you see the new screenshots?

[modern cove]

Well uhhh no

[hazy helm]

Neither the trailer nor those had the radar (minimap)
https://www.wired.com/story/ukraine-stalker-2-gsc-game-world-development-war/

Kinda sad but I understand

[modern cove]

Bruh i cant see it it wants me to sign in i dont have time for such stuff

But sad no radar:(((

[hazy helm]

I mean the UI,the radar you had in your HUD

[modern cove]

Oh i'm dumb

[hazy helm]

as expected from a scientist in the zone

[modern cove]

Sorry

[modern cove]

XD

Hide the evidence

[modern cove]

I mean there is still an option that maybe you can mod your helmet to show the minimap Like in CoP(im not sure here i know that option is in gunslinger but idk if its in the official CoP)

[hardy bear]

Been working on reload animations and I’ve made something worse than soc’s

[hazy helm]

Mirrored casing ejection or nothing

[hardy bear]

At the moment I’ve got no shell ejection 😬

[modern cove]

Well i'm still an assistant not a proffesor

[hazy helm]

You always had a minimap but there was a special helmet that had a special upgrade that let you detect enemies with the radar without seeing them

in all 3 games the radar told you how many ppl around you were alive,from the get go

[modern cove]

Ye that's what i mean maybe they'll do somesing similar idk

[hardy bear]

Doesn’t seem like there’s any minimap at the moment

[modern cove]

I'm no expert at this stuff

[hazy helm]

The minimap was always there,it told you the position of enemies you were seeing and hearing too,as well as where the bodies were and how many ppl were alive,it was very important in fact

[hardy bear]

Saved me a lot of bother that’s for sure. Like in the garbage bandit raid, I could locate someone crying on the floor and execute them to finish the mission >:3

[hazy helm]

was sharing that link before molit
I'm cracked at this

[silver pagoda]

Good choice actually, immersive and hard gameplay

[modern cove]

[nimble cipher]

Sir_Lukas#5894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[burnt surge]

im starting to think that the game may actually release this year

[thick sundial]

more screenshots?

[worthy owl]

it's looking amazing sheesh

[hardy bear]

Oh my word where’d these people come from

[modern cove]

Would you look at that im in a screenshot

[hot tundra]

congratulations

[hardy bear]

Ah they posted the article, makes sense

[hot tundra]

anyway do you guys listen to death grips

[hazy helm]

stalker was never meant to be hardcore or hard

[nimble cipher]

CosmicKangaroo#5899 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thick sundial]

is that the village by the army warehouses?

[modern cove]

That's right

[wicked bramble]

[spare trail]

Even if game has lot of bugs, mods will fix them

[silver pagoda]

Less UI = more immersion

[wicked bramble]

i meant the HQ screenshots are very nice looking

[silver pagoda]

Radar is for dumb halo kids on multiplayer

[hazy helm]

a functional UI is better than no UI
Kinda sad that it was removed but I understand why

[hardy bear]

I find it immersive even with a minimap. Makes some sense given the setting

[silver pagoda]

Less UI = better gameplay automatically, PDA Exists

[hazy helm]

No not really LMAO

[silver pagoda]

yeah bro sorry you're wrong on this one https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXFh7vbXwAItQwj.jpg

[hazy helm]

Hahahaha how can you think that removing the UI makes something automatically better?that's just a dumb take overall

[thick sundial]

all this UI discussion is cool and all but...i wonder when we'll be getting more soundtracks, the one from the latest trailer still lives rent free in my head

[hardy bear]

The soundtrack does sound great already

[silver pagoda]

Stalker 2 has a compass horizontal compass on top, thats enough

less UI = more gameplay, more knowledge and understanding based

[thick sundial]

same for the last bit of the first reveal trailer, those tones are still fresh in my head too

[burnt surge]

stalker soundtrack goes hard asf

[modern cove]

I love the CoP ending music

[hardy bear]

Gives me some bf4 vibes, which I love

[hazy helm]

Like I said,I am fine with what they did,I am just nostalgic

[silver pagoda]

nostalgia goggles is a bad thing, time for the game to evolve

[hazy helm]

this entirely depends on the type of game,less UI doesn't mean more gameplay 100 percent of the type that's just wrong

[silver pagoda]

learn the map and explore it, you have a compass, its enough, i dont want fkin radar on my screen as if im wearing an HALO helmet

[modern cove]

I mean there will be mod support so i can bet my entire savings that you'll be able to mod your radar and stuff into the game

[silver pagoda]

Less UI indirectly drives you towards learning

[hazy helm]

I was never bashing the game for not having it dude you're taking it too much too heart,I'm just reminiscing

[modern cove]

That is correct

[silver pagoda]

im just discussing things with u man, u know i love u lol

[sand condor]

is that a uzi

[hazy helm]

remove the UI in Opus Magnum,and try to play kt

[modern cove]

That is also correct

[glossy ore]

one of the guns is yes

[hazy helm]

[finite dragon]

I have a question. I was needing to get a hold of GSC game world about, content creator role. How long does it take to get a response? I submitted my application. Its a bit urgent. I was here last night asking, and I made a mistake and worded the wrong tihng, so, I got to correct myself, and re-word the confusion. I am a exit lag, gaming vpn, content creator, I was looking into content creating with this community, I played stalker since xbox 360 and on steam, I played the oriignal stalker. I hope staff can help with my requests. I was recently hired into content creating with exit lag in 2022. I enjoy content creating so far, been doing it for years.

[silver pagoda]

there is a difference in having an ammo counter down below with your HP and having a whole huge radar in a game that scavenging is a big part, its stupid, you are not wearing special cybernetic and awareness is a big thing

[celest heart]

its a game bruh

[modern cove]

Keep the UI for the rookie difficulty

Bigger difficulty means less UI

[hazy helm]

The only thing I actively dislike in this radar is the useless indication of caliber under the image of caliber
The image tells you which kind of bullet be it AP or flesh
But the caliber?I don't need it
And I would be ok if they turned off th indication of locations from the radar

[silver pagoda]

where is the magic in having constant awareness based on a UI radar, you have your PDA to plan, then you spend time observing and getting awareness info

[silver pagoda]

I am sure you can turn all these off, turning off UI elements is popular nowdays

[hazy helm]

Your radar was a tool in your arsenal,to be used in fights and it worked for the kind of game that Stalker was

[silver pagoda]

but its not on your arsenal though, is it? because you are not a cybernetic brain connection to Elon musk's sattelites

[hazy helm]

but see my issue is that calibre indication may be imbedded into the ammo counter itself so you can't turn it off without turning the ammo counter off itself

[silver pagoda]

its just an ez mode UI element, not arsenal lol

[hazy helm]

all th tools in your arsenal,all the tools you have aren't only weapons but Positioning and planning which the radar helped you with,rather than taking a passive approach by not knowing where enemies were you had a rough idea and estimation that let you be more aggressive and take chances,this is bolstered further with the movement and handling of guns and the non existence of cooldowns on consumables along with the general tankyness

[silver pagoda]

If a game provides mechanics and not devs being lazy just making a radar in order to make up for bad things in the game, like lack of sound on footsteps, enemies beaming you through walls or bushes, then its an automatically better game with less hand holding, and actually treats you like a functioning human instead of giving you everything in the plate

[hazy helm]

all of this is related to UX and game balancing by simply removing UI it doesn't change any of this

What you told me was,any shooter would be better with less UI,so take the UI off CoD or Halo

[modern cove]

Bbbut the game originally was supposed to be just fun

[sand condor]

can't wait

[onyx steeple]

idk about yous but i just want another stalker game idrc what the ui is lmao

[hazy helm]

a simple change of UI won't affect the game logic

[modern cove]

Same

[sand condor]

good that it's on gamepass

[silver pagoda]

radar is just stupid, its not just UI, it's a wallhack mechanic of some sorts that updates real time, if the game treats you like a child, why exactly is it fun? reason i hate bethesda games. Oh go there and investigate for an item, oooopa here's a marker with the exact item location

[onyx steeple]

turn it off then

[hazy helm]

My friend in the original game the radar wasnt a simple wallhack,you were onl able to locate the enemies that are making noise an that are visible,if an enemy was quite and not visible you would never know they were they to begin with which is why it works

[light hollow]

Doesn't this happen with stalker thanks to the minimap and pda?

[hazy helm]

As soon as a bandit tried to sneak and got out of your line of sight,you lost them on the radar

[thick sundial]

you talking like a radar is the same thing as the instant win button

[modern cove]

the radar was actually pretty useless for me tbh

[silver pagoda]

does not matter, it shows buildings and area layout, which is a lot of help aswell

[light hollow]

What's so different

Oh wait am I confusing radar with compass?

[hazy helm]

I honestly preferred the way it was that showed simply enemy and body placement,never cared for th minimap they added

[silver pagoda]

at least provide a difficulty that turns all this childish training wheels off and im happy, less UI = better for me, otherwise i'd play ubisoft titles

[hardy bear]

I know ima start without the minimap to take in the sights and sounds

[thick sundial]

sek you're overestimating the usefulness of the radar a lot, personally, the best use for it is looting once shootouts are done for

[finite dragon]

I was still needing help with my question I asked earlier. It wasn't quite what I expected it to bne, and my internet is slow, I got confused again, trying to update another game, stalcraft. And I got ddosed on another video game, not on steam, not stalker related. I tried flushing my dns server, nothing works. I got to get a hold of my internet service provider about the ddosed attack....

[sand condor]

honestly don't mind the ui

[sleek tundra]

Minimalist hud doesn't automatically equal good, just like normal hud, it could be screwed

[hazy helm]

Any ppl don't know that by holding the f key you will see items better and that's a problem,a better tutorial is a must

[sand condor]

as long it convoys relative info

[silver pagoda]

yes but a minimalist UI on a good game is plus+ effort. radars suck because devs ignore sound design and awareness cues

[still ridge]

UI is something that can be easily changed

[sand condor]

like health ammo and mag count

[still ridge]

If you really care about it

[sleek tundra]

Facts brother, so true my friend

[sand condor]

i would see it also completely fade

[still ridge]

I’m sure that’s an option

[polar fern]

The health ui disappears when not needed as shown in the ecologist pic

[silver pagoda]

Also, having minimal UI means developers actually design the game around mechanics and not awareness based UI like radar, it's not as simple as 'turn it off' gameplay mechanics must compliment lack of UI

[hazy helm]

I can't deny but the UI is crafted around the game and it's not just BC you'll take UI out of a game that it'll magically become better,we both know that

[still ridge]

That’s why the PDA exists

So in this case it is that simple

[hardy bear]

Like how rdr2 causes characters to spurt out directions when you have the minimap off

[silver pagoda]

As I said, realtime helpers suck in UI, and devs must design games on the lack of UI instead of just 'turn it off'

Ill make an example, most of you wont like it, but see it objectively

[hazy helm]

My friend now we can agree

[sand condor]

what is the moon icon

[sleek tundra]

The existence of awareness based UI implies the existence of awareness cringe UI

[hazy helm]

Most likely sleep

[sleek tundra]

[sand condor]

shouldn't it be z or bed

[still ridge]

well no it shouldn’t be z

[sleek tundra]

It should be a letter, inside the letter is a suicide threat directed to Wipergone

[light hollow]

Btw a dev answered a question about UI in #🔍┃ask_gscarchive if anyone wants to see

[sand condor]

why not

[sleek tundra]

Why would it be Z?

[still ridge]

think about it

[sand condor]

z is sleep

[sleek tundra]

Zombie

[silver pagoda]

what im saying is this, dont make stalker super realistic or hard in the sense of just making hard, but instead provide footstep sounds, good awareness sound-based cues for enemies and logic. If NPCs can aimbot you through bushes (where you cant see them) then that's bad and many devs do that so they make stupid realtime radar updating

[hazy helm]

A moon is a representation of night and at night ppl sleep,quite intuitive

[sand condor]

but its daylight

[hazy helm]

This is just,a given an obvious,ever tried OGSR?hahaha

[potent bluff]

It mean night has fallen, time to sleep 😴

[silver pagoda]

no but i hope you understand what i mean by UI = better gameplay if devs do their job

[sand condor]

obviously knife and fork is@ hunger

and weight icon is possible overemcumbed

[onyx steeple]

why not H for hunger?

[silver pagoda]

Also the new screenshots are amazing, I was scared of downgrade on last trailer (probably youtube compression) but the screens look as packed and dense as the first trailer that showcased Swamps

[hardy bear]

doesn't mean it's actual gameplay though

as much as I want to believe it, I've been duped too many times by fancy screenshots and trailers

[silver pagoda]

Also another thing I noticed, HP is dynamic UI in Stalker 2, it seems that when you are out of combat, its invisible

[solid burrow]

Always love more trains in games

[hazy helm]

I do I do don't worry
And in OGSR may enemies can one shot you thru bushes and at very high lengths ,like you can't even see the enemy but he head,eyes you with 7.62x54

[sand condor]

uzi is confirmed

[sleek tundra]

Why do people avoid CoP? This crap's awesome

[silver pagoda]

Yeah I get that in all mods i've played, thats probably engine limitation or limited work on UI and geometry based textures

[hazy helm]

good change

[light hollow]

Who?

[hazy helm]

Not really is just poor balancing and AI

[sleek tundra]

Based minimalist II

[sand condor]

what is that rifle weapon with 7.62

[silver pagoda]

It seems the UI dissappears if it does not get drained. in another pic only the stamina bar appears (10% is missing) and in another one (with the shotgun) only the hunger icon appears visible (stamina and hp both invisible)

[glossy ore]

M14 I believe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_14_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle

[fluid sphinx]

late reply but if you still haven't yet watch the show dark

some parts have atmosphere that's right out of stalker

[glossy ore]

unless that's supposed to be 7.62 Soviet, I don't believe previous games ever had 7.62 NATO

[hazy helm]

O that TLOU got a show,I had forgotten that game
Back to forgetting it

[fluid sphinx]

a stalker tv show would be an instant success if done well

[potent bluff]

Rip ZONA series

[sand condor]

game looks really great

[sleek tundra]

Anything could be a success if done well, we just have to make it actually good

[still ridge]

Modern M14

[sleek tundra]

You can make the stupidest game with the silliest moments and, if it's still done good, it'll be successful

[fluid sphinx]

I disagree, there are some games that are better left as games, but turning stalker into a show would be a genuinely good idea. tlou tv show so far has been good, proving you can turn a post-apocalyptic game's story into a show, and "dark" proves you can have stalker (game) esque atmosphere in a tv show.

[hazy helm]

One of the reasons TLOU show turned good is BC the director and writer always wanted it to be a show,and now that he has the opportunity,he can realise his dream

[sand condor]

should stalker be a show

[spring abyss]

Stalker is based on a movie, so go watch the movie

[fluid sphinx]

neil druckmann is a retard, the show is good in spite of him, not thanks to him.

[silver pagoda]

[glossy ore]

I'd say there's always room for spinoff or side stuff, not sure about adapting game plots to the screen

[sand condor]

given the right director and writers

[fluid sphinx]

i've seen it, not that similar to the game.

[hazy helm]

I'm afraid most attempts would lose themselves in between,just like every larping short made by the community

[sand condor]

i would watch it

[sleek tundra]

The community has proven time and time again that they can't make a good clip, short movie or anything like that based on the games

[sand condor]

IF its done right

[spring abyss]

*eastern director and writer, if a western one do it will be trash

[cyan canopy]

Yoo Eggheads are back :D

[hardy bear]

honestly given how they have incorporated these first person cutscenes the game would play out like a show in itself

[sand condor]

maybe a western publishing firm with creative freedom

[hazy helm]

I would be interested if it was the director and writer of Annihalation

[silver pagoda]

netflix should make stalker show with skif being a purple hair short-cut woman

[sand condor]

like we give you the money do whatever

[sleek tundra]

Trans woman*

[fluid sphinx]

also tlou game relied a lot on interactivity and gameplay, the show needs to fill in a lot of the gameplay with story and so far it's been done well. Neil Druckmann, the narrative director, is someone who has good ideas but needs to be put on a leash as he an equal amount of horrible ideas as well, not to mention his extreme politics. That is why the original game worked, he was told no multiple times and they modified a lot of his ideas to make them work. He's a good idea generator but not a good storyteller or director hence why tlou 2 is such a mess. So if it's something he wants it's not necessarily a good thing and frequently a bad thing.

[spring abyss]

"Creative freedom"
Look, latin strelok of diversity

[sand condor]

what

[hazy helm]

how yes the Sony movie game a lot of interactivity and gameplay haha

[fluid sphinx]

have you played it? gameplay is it's biggest strength

[hazy helm]

It's not like I care about TLOU tho,I am not qualified to talk aboutit

[spring abyss]

The western movie makers only do sh!t nowadays, a eastern studio should take care of

[silver pagoda]

TLOU series is good because its actually what the game did, no lore-breaking garbage like Netflix Witcher

[hazy helm]

Dropped the game early on since it was a bore and uninteresting

[fluid sphinx]

not true, joels daughter is adopted in the show lmfao and the spores are completely removed, but it's still good

[fluid sphinx]

fair enough

[fluid sphinx]

the community doesn't have a budget lol

[hazy helm]

Say that to the poor sods that payed for Shadow of the Zone hahahahahahhaa
That's gonna SUCK so bad

[glossy ore]

it's possible to have good fan films, like the Papers, Please one

[sleek tundra]

Thats not the main reason

[sand condor]

gt movie isn't going to be good

[fluid sphinx]

the biggest problem with a stalker show would be the language, like they either make it in ukrainian which would result in a cultural and lingual barrier that would kill the shows appeal and popularity, or make it in english which would feel a bit off

[sand condor]

imo it should be rising to fame with problems

like abit or rival drama

not love freaking story

[sleek tundra]

Russian:

[spring abyss]

Just read the subtitles, or make the movie with two languages so you can switch between then if you want, there definitely no problem there

[sleek tundra]

Russian

[fluid sphinx]

reading subtitles for an entire show gets annoying for a lot of people and dubbing always sucks

[hazy helm]

It really isn't lmao

[silver pagoda]

Watch them buy the rights to stalker movie and make the whole world a zone, then movie takes place in original place New york

[sleek tundra]

Russian

[spring abyss]

This is literally skill issue

[sleek tundra]

Your entire problem could be solved by making it Russian

[light hollow]

Dude there are shows that critics needed to watch subbed because they would lose gems

[fluid sphinx]

having to look down to read all the time so you can understand what they're saying instead of experiencing the show properly is not very fun

[sleek tundra]

Did I get blocked or something?

[hazy helm]

My friend,if a show or movie is good,ppl will not care if it is dubbed in another language,or if they need to read subtitles,it's the matter of the shorts themselves that the ppl making them don't understand
That's the issue

[glossy ore]

original language is often a pretty good way to watch anything, depending on the dubs quality

[sand condor]

does anyone like weapon jam

[sleek tundra]

Me

[spring abyss]

Wtf

[silver pagoda]

me

[fluid sphinx]

that's statistically untrue, there's a reason why european productions are always obscure regardless of quality

[hazy helm]

Me

[sand condor]

ukraine or english for s2

[fluid sphinx]

most people aren't willing to give them a chance because they don't find looking at text half the time fun

[hazy helm]

this is due to the subject of the stories,their pacing,their different culture and their advertisement

[silver pagoda]

ukranian voice with english subs, like sekiro (japsubs and subs)

[sleek tundra]

Russian? Cmon man, at least tell me why you ain't responding

[sand condor]

i think i might try both extensively

[light hollow]

No it's because they don't know their existence because marketing

[lyric atlas]

yay they added a kiparis

[fluid sphinx]

not true, pusher, for example is essentially a Scorcese style crime movie, if it was in english it would be praised worldwide

[hazy helm]

Who honestly cares tbh

[light hollow]

Saying that people dont watch movies on other languages it's like saying that people don't hear music on other languages, which is incredibly stupid considering many of the most famous songs are in english or korean

[lyric atlas]

idk bro
they added a kiparis
its not about caring its about knowing

[hazy helm]

and the fact that I live inside the EU and never heard of it tells you that the problem is the reach and scope of the advertisement,you see,these productions are small and country based,it's local production with local budget and local advertisement,the state's or other countries don't hear about them BC they don't have enuff money to advertise and distribute the movie cross continents

[silver pagoda]

majority of people who dont speak english as native language watch shows with subtitles even if they do speak english, it literally does not matter if the show is good, its gonna get traffic

[hazy helm]

you should be more worried for the balancing than which model your gun looks like

[still ridge]

There was weapon jam in the originals. Why wouldn’t there be in HoC?

[spring abyss]

Is like that dudes that want to simplify the thing and put the guilt in something stupid:
"Wow videogame make violence"
"Wow your movier is not good bc it didn't have dubs in my language, subtitles suck"

[light hollow]

Balancing 🤮
Look of the gun

[lyric atlas]

i dont care man if it kills people after you spit lead at them then its good

[hazy helm]

We are so over

[lyric atlas]

exactly

[sand condor]

i didn't say would there be weapon jams

[fluid sphinx]

You never heard of it because it's not in a language you speak, not because of your geography. Spaghetti westerns are an excellent example of low-budget European productions that had worldwide success because they had no linguistic and cultural barriers. You

[light hollow]

^

[rugged scaffold]

weapon jams decentivise people from using broken guns

[hazy helm]

my friend these productions were marketed and made for the states industry which was the biggest and most influential of the entire world thus ballooning the status of these movies and making them known
Their scope was big,thus they hit their mark and got budget to be world wide

[sand condor]

or to repair them

[fluid sphinx]

and nowadays with the internet getting your shit out there is less and less of a problem

[silver pagoda]

Just make english world native language and ban all other languages, it just makes communication harder

[light hollow]

Actually they are trying to make esperanto the universal language. Let's see how it goes

[hazy helm]

it's even harder to get ppl to SEE your stuff BC of the quantity of stuff that gets uploaded,it's either dumb luck or a VERY big push in advertising
With you guessed it money

[rugged scaffold]

I was thinking of specifically soc but yeah that works too, it's just another thing to watch out for which I like

[light hollow]

And considering not many people knew that esperanto was a language, we are not in a good direction

[hazy helm]

Esperwhat

[light hollow]

Exactly

[glossy ore]

who is trying? last I checked that's just stagnated

[fluid sphinx]

the sensibilities of spaghetti westerns is distinctly italian lol and very different from US westerns, but they were in english.

[silver pagoda]

are tarantino westerns considered spaghetti?

[hazy helm]

Spaghetti westerns are a Bolognese of cultures,movies made by Italians with a Mexican vibe in Spanish soil

[hardy bear]

why are they called spaghetti

[hazy helm]

God I wish the discord app worked better this app sucks

[fluid sphinx]

no, spaghetti western means it's directed by italians and produced in spain and italy.

[silver pagoda]

How can a genre be dependent on what country they are produced lmao

[light hollow]

Get an older build

[hazy helm]

BC the cultures and life experiences change drastically from place of origin to place of origin,and directors and writers are heavely influence by these

[fluid sphinx]

because it's a distinct style only they produce.

it's a matter of sensibilities and culture, many euro westerns and american westerns tried to imitate them but failed

euro westerns are westerns that are european but not italian

@hazy helm you're underestimating how much language and cultural barriers makes a difference though. There's a reason why american movies are always successful outside of the US. It's because almost everyone understands them since they're in english and america has no culture as it's an immigrant country. Someone from sweden isn't going to understand an italian movie and vice versa, but both understand and enjoy american movies just fine and that's because of language and culture.

[spring abyss]

What year we are? 1500
It's 2023 dude, subtitles are made just for that

[hazy helm]

this is wron when you consider Chinese showings don't have dubs but have subs rarely,and the culture of the Chinese is heavely different they see these big block buster movies has a diversion,a waster for the eyes,junk food,they don't even understand the words or story they like explosions and gunfire

[fluid sphinx]

language is evidently one of the more important aspects too, since UK movies also tend to succeed despite their cultural differences.

[hazy helm]

now,a European movie can have all of these and it wouldn't matter to them,but the European movie needs to be shipped and marketed to th Chinese which is a much bigger issue

[fluid sphinx]

chinese showings that have worldwide success are usually action movies where story is irrelevant and super shallow to the point where you still get it without subs.

[hazy helm]

exactly,and the only reason why euros and Asian movies can't replicate it is BC of money
You could make a euro movie all about explosions and car chases an gunfire,but if you don have money for marketing outside of Poland for example it'll remain obscure
Even if you do have dubs

[light hollow]

So yeah stalker will have both english and ukranian. That's cool

[sand condor]

english or ukraine?

[light hollow]

Both

[sand condor]

i think i try both

[light hollow]

Where is my esperanto dub???!???¡?

[hazy helm]

I don't doubt that many ppl in the states base movies by the dubs they have but I think you're putting too much weight on solely this,for many many ppl,the majority infact,if a movie has subs,that's enuff as long as it's good

[fluid sphinx]

well europe has never made any remarkable action movies outside of district 13 which had worldwide success

[hazy helm]

and we know why don't we

[fluid sphinx]

well, we don't have the budget or skills americans or asians do

[light hollow]

Guys I won't be playing stalker 2 because it has english/ukranian voices, I'm sad 😩 😩 😩

[fluid sphinx]

but the best action movie director (gareth evans) is european (british) but he made his movies in asia

[hazy helm]

(Brit)🤮

[lyric atlas]

i love the kiparis such a cool gun
its like a kedr but in 9x18mm

(the kedr is in 9x18mm thats why its funny)

[hazy helm]

so that's why it's added,should be good for the ladder of progression

[fluid sphinx]

anyway, a stalker show would have to either be in english or have a lot of visual storytelling (like dark) so you don't look at subs all the time if it want's to succeed

[vernal magnet]

Yo that ecologists photo looks amazing

[lyric atlas]

man we have a stalker movie, 3/4 stalker games with like 6 other related games, a stalker tabletop game, and the stalker comics, and the stalker comic which is a sequel to call of pripyat

i dont get how a TV show would fit in all this

especially these days, itd be awful

[hazy helm]

my friend,Stalker 1979 is not at all a Stalker GSC propertie or close to it don't go mixing it up,all we have is 3 games soon to be 4 and a comic
All of the rest is fan made

[fluid sphinx]

we don't have a live action adaptation of the games, it would have merit

[lyric atlas]

it does have close relation

[fluid sphinx]

the movie is very different yeah

[lyric atlas]

the movie is different though thats true

[finite dragon]

Why is le stalker 2 blocked on Russian steam?

[fluid sphinx]

it's a pretentious arthouse movie, it's not very good lol

[hazy helm]

I know you watched the movie and we both know that the similarities are VERY VERY small,dont put them together,Stalker 79 is more Strugatsky like and stalker is more bombastic and shooter

[finite dragon]

Also based bio @lyric atlas

[lyric atlas]

cuz russiabad!!! every russian is responsible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lyric atlas]

💪🏻

[finite dragon]

I mean all it's gonna do is make Russians sail the seas for the game

[sand condor]

would there be a progression of weapons

[lyric atlas]

i honestly like the GSC adaptation more than what the strugatskys did

[hazy helm]

Piracy is an option

[sand condor]

like older weapon

[hazy helm]

They are merely different POVs and different Genres

[finite dragon]

What I said. They gonna sail the seas

[pseudo rivet]

CS and CoP weapons are balanced, what do you mean?

[fluid sphinx]

ukrainians are gonna hate russians for centuries after this war lmao, just like black people hate white people in the US because of history

[hazy helm]

dammit

[sand condor]

can we not

[pseudo rivet]

They can, no mod around

[finite dragon]

But if Stalker 2 turns out to be very good I am throwing my shekels at GSC World

[sand condor]

am sure ukraine dont hate russia

[lyric atlas]

reminds me of how we used to turn on eachother during ww2 and now suddenly we were the best of friends, its not like katyn or wolyn or lwow ever happened

[sage quartz]

oh yeah really

[sand condor]

just the government

[pseudo rivet]

If only

[hazy helm]

Don't go to the Balkans

[lyric atlas]

i mean im all for it, i love helping regular people who just want to go mind their own business and live when they cannot

[sage quartz]

"just the government"💀

[finite dragon]

I mean not to insult Russians but the Russians are kinda pussies for not standing up against the government

[finite dragon]

Even my Russian friend said this

[lyric atlas]

you get arrested in russia for pretending to hold a sign go figure

[fluid sphinx]

goddamit, i didn't mean to start a poltical discussion lol, i was just explaining why the game is not coming out in russia

[sand condor]

its literally illegal to protest

[light hollow]

Can we not pwease? UwU

[finite dragon]

Anyway the convo got offtopic

[hazy helm]

Retreat back to the Trepang2 server soldier

[finite summit]

The aren't not standing up because they're pussies.
They aren't standing up because they support what their government does.

[sand condor]

you cant even fight back without police taking you

[pseudo rivet]

To be fair, GSC refused to send it to Russia first, then it got banned in Russia. It do B wack

[still nymph]

im getting HYPED AGAIN

[pseudo rivet]

Don't

[hazy helm]

Dont

[light hollow]

Do

[sand condor]

do

[still nymph]

gordon is the only one of you whos fun

[finite dragon]

I mean tbh Ukrainian army is embarrassing them and killing most of their soldiers. And I don't think any Russian wants to be drafted

[solid dome]

Ain't nothing gonna appease you

[pseudo rivet]

Even though he literally said "UwU" just a while ago

[still nymph]

UwU

[hazy helm]

My better judgement impedes me from answering

[silver pagoda]

Vladi Adolf Putler really sending his people to die in meaningless war because of his ego.... sad to watch

[light hollow]

Can we pway swalker uwu?

[pseudo rivet]

Nice, another addition to the Garbage

[fluid sphinx]

yeah, when people do bad shit to people, they tend to hate and despise everything related to them for a long time, it's irrational but human beings are irrational, i wouldn't expect anything stalker related to ever come out in russia for at least a decade or two

[hazy helm]

[finite summit]

It might bother them but not to the point of rising up.

[lyric atlas]

czarnobył

juz nie ma

[still nymph]

Im gonna brown if this game gets pushed to 2024

[lyric atlas]

i am going to be ecstatic if the game gets pushed to 2024

[pseudo rivet]

Honestly, there are Russians who don't even care, but due to them cancelling it in Russia, they got angry. It isn't always a case of being on a certain side

[silver pagoda]

Devs have answered like 100 messages last month that the date is still 2023

[still nymph]

H

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds pretty sad, ngl

[fluid sphinx]

i agree but human nature is what it is, most people would also disdain russians if they invaded their country

[finite dragon]

But since I am Orthodox and they are Orthodox it pains me to see them fight

[solid dome]

Krezzin the Pickle Man appears from around the fallen tree! What does he carry in his hands? A PICKLE JAR!

[silver pagoda]

Stalker 2, Bloodlines 2, Space Marine 2, Dead Island 2

The dead franchises are coming back from their grave bois

[silver pagoda]

my main illegal pickle supplier, how you doing bruv

[hazy helm]

be scared,for they do not know what they do

[finite summit]

russian invasion of russia when?

[pseudo rivet]

But will they be like how we remember them?

[still nymph]

i had to replace my carpets when cyberpunk got pushed back the 4th time

[sand condor]

what quater coulds2 be out

[hazy helm]

Bro the white army gonna die back up lmao

[solid dome]

Pretty fine, Mr. Judge

[silver pagoda]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J3HQBmicnC0/maxresdefault.jpg

@solid dome

[sand condor]

not even true

[finite dragon]

When the true heir to Russia is restored

[still nymph]

nuh uh

[solid dome]

Picklerino

[finite dragon]

Long live Tsar

[sand condor]

you seriously need to goto doctor if you feel the need to crap the floor

[dry imp]

YES FINALLY THE ANNOUNCEMENT I WANTED

[nimble cipher]

Tampico#1776 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[pseudo rivet]

Another day in STOC

[spring abyss]

Insert the Political gif here

[solid dome]

2 kg of fresh pickles for marination

[silver pagoda]

[hazy helm]

They gonna put Rasputin's corpse on the president chair and hook it up to a dozen batteries?W40K style?

[finite summit]

return of the Rurik dynasty when?

[solid dome]

Another day stuck at the Zone

[pseudo rivet]

Not my Zone, ngl

[solid dome]

You are not in your comfort zone?

[still nymph]

thats what they all say

[hazy helm]

Neither is STUC

[spring abyss]

Russia revolution 2 white army payback

[finite dragon]

Maybe there are royal blood lines who still live in Russia

[sand condor]

grow up if you are lying

[silver pagoda]

wait till you see RU economy being total garbage soon, then they will care

i hope the best of UA and RU civilians since they are dying to political wars that they would never benefit from anyway, i saw a video of russian soldier and they said they thought they fight poland dude, its unreal

[nimble cipher]

Wipergone#5027 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pseudo rivet]

Dang, didn't even know bro. Enlighten me

[hazy helm]

It's a joke how old are you ahahahhaa

[sand condor]

irreverent to you

[hazy helm]

It already is,it already was,for a long time now

[pseudo rivet]

Fr

[sand condor]

do you see me asking your age

[silver pagoda]

Sylky why u spam my forehead with bolts u nonce

hey guys whats ur age im 29

[still nymph]

87

[hazy helm]

I can't talk about it but I'm pretty sure I know some of the reasons as to why the invasion happened

[pseudo rivet]

That would explain why you're crapping your pants

[silver pagoda]

damn man you're nearly a century old how you feel about it

[still nymph]

brown

[silver pagoda]

alright its all good old man, if you need any items let me know, i play anomaly so i know all about fetching

[still nymph]

toilet paper

[silver pagoda]

[vernal magnet]

Bro foreal? Why?

[pseudo rivet]

Old STOC better, definitely more wholesome and friendly

[vernal magnet]

Yea when strelok and sakarvov had a picnic and talked about their future that hit me in the heart ngl very wholesome

[finite dragon]

After playing old Stalker games I have realized how trash the Stalker Anomaly systems and functions are

[buoyant sinew]

oop

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

CS Gang

[finite dragon]

I prefer how old Stalker games work cause they aren't infuriating

My favorite is Shadow of Chernobyl cause I can just find so many artifacts

[buoyant sinew]

yeah but the guy who was sent to kill strelok can’t carry shit and needs to catch his breath all the time

[finite dragon]

Artifacts solve the problem

[pseudo rivet]

Literally

[buoyant sinew]

In shadow of Chernobyl ?

[hazy helm]

Skill issue
Use the systems the game provides

[pseudo rivet]

^

[buoyant sinew]

won’t be a skill issue when I shove my foot up skulls ass and grab his exo for the additional weight

[hazy helm]

L,no running unlucky
Big L

[pseudo rivet]

Hella

[buoyant sinew]

moonlight gaming

[frail spire]

what is this garbage compass on top of the screen

[hazy helm]

Supposedly it replaced the radar but quite honestly the fact it has locations there ruins most of it

[silver pagoda]

big true

[frail spire]

Why replace the radar with this though

[silver pagoda]

remove compass, remove radar, have PDA for help when needed

[frail spire]

See the problem is that there shouldn't be a landmark system

[spring abyss]

Western fortinete players wouldn't be able to find their nose

[nimble cipher]

ArgenAnon#7418 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[frail spire]

since it makes the map be clogged with sh1tty landmarks like an ubisoft game

if they really wanted a minimalistic hud then they should only have health, stamina and ammo counter

the compass or the og map should be removed and tied to the pda exclusively

how is this so hard to understand, like seriously whos taking these garbage design choices?

"b-but you're not a game designer!" Thats right, I actually play videogames

[finite dragon]

They're falling for the o'l "open world game" trap

[frail spire]

Do you know why the compass is garbage? Because now instead of having a general area you'll have a landmark, you won't be told how reach said landmark, just that it's there, you know what game also made this? Skyrim

And it was attrocious because the whole design was then tied to landmarks, not to the player exploring

[finite dragon]

Any sense of mystery and exploration is destroyed.

[frail spire]

It's not even that, you can have a map and landmarks

[finite dragon]

Omg the new screen wow

[frail spire]

but you have to be really careful with those because the compass is going to be clogged with landmarks

[finite dragon]

Wonder if kruglov is the green suit

[frail spire]

Like, lets think this for a second, will the compass also have enemy markers?

[silver pagoda]

It does

[glossy ore]

it already does, you just didn't see it

[silver pagoda]

There is a screenshots that showcases red marks as dogs and the mutant boar

[frail spire]

because if the compass at some point has enemy markers then you already have an over saturated compass that shows both landmarks and enemies

[glossy ore]

the Come to Me trailer had them too

[hazy helm]

Having a compass in open world games is very important,it is however often misutilized

[frail spire]

and if you have neutral and allied npcs then it gets worse

[finite dragon]

I really really hope I'm allowed to minimize and declutter my HUD like I was allowed to in the other games. If that's the case, I have zero problems

[frail spire]

you have a whole compass full of dots and marks and now your game looks like a crappy mobile game

[silver pagoda]

Its very ubisoft-like compass, i dislike it

[hazy helm]

I would honestly want someone to add a compass to morrowinds map overlay,a simple flor de lis telling you which side is north,which is south and which is easy and west,that would improve exploration by a ton and help player

[frail spire]

at least the original map was very basic on depicting stuff

[sage quartz]

I’m okay with compass, if this will help new players to understand the game, and I think marking enemies on it is very helpful, also it would be a good decision if I can go to settings and turn it off if I want

[frail spire]

the compass looks like overcomplicating stuff for no real reason

[glossy ore]

a compass has always been part of STALKER, just in a different format with a graphic next to the minimap instead of this

[silver pagoda]

Just have the PDA opening up with a decently fast animation, maybe the ability to mark things yourself on the PDA. Compasses and radars are dumb

[frail spire]

Yes, compass has always been a part of the game, thats my point, the old map and compass worked fine

[hazy helm]

my and you guys definition of compasses seem to be different

[frail spire]

this new compass on top bar has no real reason to replace the old one

[finite dragon]

This is the same logic ubisoft uses to make their games as hand-holdy and accessible as humanly possible. Which only serves to make their games extremely cluttered and boring

[silver pagoda]

No reason to have any kind of compass other than PDA, its enough. Im playing a 'dangerous' zone game, i dont want fkin red markers on enemies

[frail spire]

also again, if their excuse is to be "minimalistic" then there shouldn't be a compass at all on your screen at all times

[glossy ore]

I think the top bar is fine, it's just a simpler way to pick directions - what's on the top bar seems the more controversial thing

[sage quartz]

I hope also they will cut that shi out to be honest. I’m not a dev to change it

[frail spire]

having anything on your screen at all times that isn't the most basic stuff (health, stamina, ammo) already defeats the point of the whole "minimalistic" approach

[sage quartz]

I’m just ok with everything they cook

[frail spire]

and it's not like this new gen game can't come up with a more interesting approach to stuff

[finite dragon]

If anything, someone out there is gonna figure out a way to mod these things in/out

[silver pagoda]

a small circle with NWES on top of right or left screen would be enough

[frail spire]

Yeah I have no real hope for the game, just let them release their "commercial" version and we will later get the modded (aka the better version, at least for modern games) version

[tender torrent]

Have the choice of selecting the compass or not, depending on the player's choice and the difficulty chosen?

[silver pagoda]

that would actually be pog, along with harder survival elements of food/water blahblahblah and loot distribution

METRO already takes nearly all UI off on hardest diff, works great

[frail spire]

Dunno all that survival stuff means more things to waste time balancing

[finite dragon]

Most games give the option to change your hud around, idk people think this game will be the exception

[frail spire]

let modders do that, focus on base gameplay instead

[sage quartz]

I forgot they did that, this was cool

[glossy ore]

I remember reading you might have to sleep in S2

[sage quartz]

I want that in S2 too

[frail spire]

Yeah Metro has ranger difficulty but it changes very little aside the no hud thing

[silver pagoda]

you have to sleep in S2

[tender torrent]

I thought about some Metro features

[frail spire]

adding survival mechanics can and will change a lot of things

[hazy helm]

Most likely modifies attributes based on Psy resistance

[silver pagoda]

enemy dmg, loot/craft distribution and UI turned off pretty much

[finite dragon]

I think that they're trying to make the game more clean and accessible, which is the exact opposite of what the old stalker games were lmao

[glossy ore]

bear in mind the game will be on consoles too

[hazy helm]

That's not true at all,the original games aren't complicated or hard to grasp at all

[frail spire]

problem is that "accessible" means "water down"

[vernal magnet]

The new compass is trash yes but I think what they are thinking is I'd you don't like it you can turn it off and use the PDA. The system is there for Xbox and mainstream users.

[frail spire]

and stalker wasn't complicated to get into nor was hard, it was only janky because old times

[finite dragon]

I just started playing SoC for the first time on the steamdeck

It most certainly hasn't been clean and accessible.

[silver pagoda]

A good tutorial means all those sh**t clogging your screen can go off almost immediately

[vernal magnet]

The new screenshots confirmed you can toggle individual HUD elements

[hazy helm]

I don't understand why they would need to water down the STalker BC of that,if anything we should be happy since they can't overcomplicate stalker BC of that

[finite dragon]

can you play stalker trilogy on steamdeck?

[finite dragon]

When I say "accessible" I mean fixing the jank.

[glossy ore]

I wouldn't count on it but maybe

[frail spire]

accessible doesn't relates to jank at all though

[hazy helm]

It was designed for a KBM setup not a gamepad

[silver pagoda]

I am sure the HP/Stamina bar dissapearing is based on 'danger' state or usability. I one screen you can see only stamina being visible because its being drained. In another photo of no enemies around, neither stamina or HP is visible. Love your videos btw dude

[finite dragon]

It takes some getting used to but luckily you can change the controls around any way you possibly imagine.

But yes, all 3 of them

If you ask any "normal" gamer why they refuse to play the old stalker games, they always say they couldn't get into it because of the jank. So I think it has to do with accessibility

[vernal magnet]

We have photos and video showing the elements on in a non danger state though

[finite dragon]

nice

[vernal magnet]

And thank you comrade 🙏

[sleek tundra]

What jank?

[finite dragon]

I'm aware but it's still playable, sometimes would prefer to play in bed instead of hooking the deck up to the dock and kbm

[worthy lagoon]

It's probably like EFT where you can choose whether you want to always show or to appear only when used or not to appear at all

[hazy helm]

Jank isn't related to accessibility you dork, accessibility relates to game design and UX

[silver pagoda]

Some gameplay released on the past is really commercial without UI on for cinematic purposes, im pretty sure

[finite dragon]

i hope stalker 3 is a pc exclusive so the console exclusive fanatics know how it feels like haha

[worthy lagoon]

What jank?

[hazy helm]

I understand just think it's unfair to say that playing in a way that wasn't designed or intented by the Devs and then saying it's no accessible or intuitive BC of it is kind of dumb

[tender torrent]

The developers know very well that some players will not like the compass or other kind of help, because many like Stalker in Hardcore mode and the S2 game will be widespread on a global level and therefore the compass and a kind of discovery for new players or family type players who want to discover the game and therefore started on a simple basis then more difficult thereafter

[vernal magnet]

True but I mean the photos we were shown with hud elements

[silver pagoda]

Majority dont play older stalker games because of graphics and shooting feeling, its not because of jank necessary (hello bethesda games) its because new games look way better and they release constantly.. majority of them

[worthy lagoon]

"Hardcore mode"?

[silver pagoda]

he means like hardcore ranger from METRO

[vernal magnet]

In one you can see an active condition under where the health bar would have been

[hazy helm]

Player urgency is a pretty big hinrance for new players when I comes to later stages in CS and SoC NGL

[worthy lagoon]

there's no such thing in STALKER

[finite dragon]

It was more along the lines of humor tbh, obviously if I didn't support them I probably wouldn't be in the discord.

Just because I've made it harder on myself to play it (I came from console anyway, bought the deck to play the trilogy) doesn't mean the games are bad in any way

If anything I've just given myself a harder challenge as I'm also playing on master.

[silver pagoda]

There's gonna be a difficulty and by saying hardcore he means the hardest/most immersive

[hazy helm]

should've caught on the joke sorry bro

[worthy lagoon]

Increasing difficulty never changed HUD elements in STALKER, it's just a Metro thing

[finite dragon]

Jokes aside though, best $800 I've ever spent just to play 3 games lol

[vernal magnet]

I love going HUDless but without visual indicators it's gonna be hard to know when your health has the white blocks preventing normal heals. They will need a visual marker

[silver pagoda]

Stalker was released more than a decade ago and you should stop treating it like its going to be the same game in totality

[vernal magnet]

Exactly

[silver pagoda]

Maybe heavy breathing on character, or dizziness camera movement. Some visual cue is important for sure

[hardy bear]

just gimme the option to choose what I see and we're golden :)

[tender torrent]

Way of saying the chosen difficulty or the choice of possibility depending on what the type of player wants

[vernal magnet]

Bingo

[sage quartz]

You’re playing stalker games on steam deck?

[worthy lagoon]

Didn't said that but increasing difficulty and removing the HUD is only a Metro thing, i haven't seen it in other games and it doesn't mean the devs should follow their steps, GSC has its own path, and it's good to keep it like that.

[solid dome]

Gamers in 2023: I keep dying. Mfing game. F this gaem.

[tender torrent]

You're right

[finite dragon]

Having an absolute blast doing it

[sage quartz]

What a chad

[worthy lagoon]

Difficulty is not the same of customization, if i want the HUD or not i should be able to remove or add it via the options, not by choosing a difficulty

[silver pagoda]

GSC and 4A games share a lot of DNA, also as I said, the game clearly promotes a minimal HUD already. If you are going to do that, at least do it decently on hardest difficulty. I want to be immersed to the game world, not being spammed by landmark icons and wallhacking enemy red markers

[sage quartz]

But I think shooting on joysticks is tough

[worthy lagoon]

Again, 4A and GSC are not the same

[sage quartz]

On the small screen

[worthy lagoon]

Metro is a completely different game compared to STALKER

Metro is NOT an open world game

[tender torrent]

Why not also, the best in this case too

[worthy lagoon]

That changes a lot of features, including HUD

[finite dragon]

Joysticks for rough aiming and pads to be more precise with the shots, after some practice it gets easier. I'm only at 20 hrs rn but I had it down pretty good after dealing with military in the first part of SoC

[silver pagoda]

I said 'share a lot of DNA' I never said its the same. Regarding difficulty and shooting people (cuz both are shooter games) METRO turns off UI and gives you actually a physically animated map that you see

[finite summit]

literally the same thing

[worthy lagoon]

Tell me what STALKER shares of Metro

[finite summit]

what about Exodsus?

[worthy lagoon]

Not open world

[tender torrent]

Metro is a half-open world, but not fully open

[finite summit]

anomalies?

[worthy lagoon]

also called not open world

[finite dragon]

I dont know how you can compare a linear narrative experience to what STALKER has to offer

[worthy lagoon]

^

[finite summit]

isn't STALKER a linear narrative experience?

[worthy lagoon]

Just because Metro and STALKER has post apocalyptic (which STALKER really isn't that much) horror genres, it doesn't mean it's the same

[finite dragon]

Even exodus, it's just semi open world

It doesn't share anything with STALKER just because you can choose what objective you complete first

[silver pagoda]

Developers from the same background, semi realistic semi arcade movement and gun handling, customizing guns on the fly, approach to goals in the open world since Exodus has 2 big open world levels

[finite summit]

it does

[worthy lagoon]

Gun handling??? Seriously? and Exodus is NOT an open world game

Even 4A said Exodus is not an open world game

[finite dragon]

Literally just choosing what area to tackle first in a still very limited options kind of way

[silver pagoda]

Exodus is open world on 2 levels but smaller scale, you can approach goals in the same way you would in stalker in many occasions. Just because its bigger open world that does not mean anything. You still have a physical map on EXODUS where you can draw and look at, what the hell are you even talking about at this point

[tender torrent]

let's not forget that Metro Exodus was developed by former Stalker SoC developers, maybe its developers helped GSC to develop S2 as well?

[finite dragon]

Nothing is stopping me from hanging out in cordon and finding shit artifacts to sell for vodka and bread the entire I play

Maybe in exodus I can just stare at a wall

It's linear so you have to complete objectives to progress, STALKER let's you define your own progress

[worthy lagoon]

Again, 4A stated to Game Informer USA that Exodus is not open world, but rather a fusion between two big linear levels

[silver pagoda]

Dude have you even played EXODUS? lmao

[worthy lagoon]

I know that because i have been very active on that topic before the release of Exodus

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2018/02/09/how-open-world-is-metro-exodus.aspx

https://www.everyeye.it/notizie/metro-exodus-non-vero-open-world-specifica-4a-games-320302.html

It's rather a "semi-open world"

[silver pagoda]

It does not matter, the way you approach the game is similar to older STALKER games, I have played it 3 times

[tender torrent]

Semi-open World 👍

[worthy lagoon]

It DOES matter

[finite summit]

yeah well GSC said that stalkuh will be a seamless open-world back in 2002 but does that mean that it is?

[silver pagoda]

You can do side objectives, follow main path, visit labs, scavenge, because S2 is very large open world that does not mean it does not share DNA with the game

[worthy lagoon]

Here again with this

[sage quartz]

put your bolt away, stalkuh

[silver pagoda]

Yeah ill discuss this with someone who actually played EXODUS because you're obviously talking trash, when 4A games and GSC essentially were one, yet you are here denying that the DNA of both games have similarities

[tender torrent]

@worthy lagoon S2 will it look a bit like Metro Exodus in terms of graphics do you think?

[worthy lagoon]

Yea, because you can also have the opportunity to change level pretty much anytime you want, exception for CS which is meant to be linear and will have some locked levels

[finite dragon]

For example: I just got the bulldog 9 from the freedom base by helping Skull attack it. We slaughtered freedom, I got the grenade launcher and brought it back to the duty base.

I didn't have to do that, I could have gone to the bloodsucker village or infiltrated freedom and got the launcher. The game gives you options, Metro makes you do everything but only let's you pick the order of what it forces you to do.

[sage quartz]

guys, when I play CoP and casually walk in the field or somewhere else it lags sometimes, I know that this is a engine issue but anyway, how to fix this? Is there some type of mode

[silver pagoda]

I said both companies share DNA in game making, you are making out to be as if I said they are the same, are you a GSC shareholder or something? Play EXODUS then come back

[finite summit]

I don't think that's what they meant by "seamless"

[spring abyss]

Is the stalker experience

[worthy lagoon]

Let's start from the fact that Exodus doesn't even have a compass HUD, no radiation HUD, no health HUD

No stamina HUD

[silver pagoda]

Its still how it portrays information, you are literally missing the point and rageposting at this point

[finite dragon]

Coolest metro feature: Wiping gas mask off

[worthy lagoon]

Bruh

[tender torrent]

exactly from a point of view above yes

[silver pagoda]

Its not about what EXODUS has and has not, its about the delivery of the aformentioned UI

[worthy lagoon]

but Graphics is not the core point of what i am saying

What i am saying is that S2 does not have to follow anyone's step to be a success

Rather follow its own path laid down by the trilogy

[finite dragon]

Remaining it's own entity will be enough to satisfy fans

[tender torrent]

Compared to UE5 it can be a bit different in terms of pixel

[finite dragon]

I dont want features from other post apoc games in 2, otherwise I'd just play those games

[worthy lagoon]

Besides the fact that i kinda dislike the compass too and i complained about it too because i don't i see it fitting with STALKER

[worthy lagoon]

I am not talking about graphics

[worthy lagoon]

exactly

[solid dome]

Welcome to 2023, where game design plagiarism rules the market

[sage quartz]

there’s no such a game as stalker, it’s definitely will be a success

[worthy lagoon]

Only reason i can understand of not having a minimap like in the trilogy it's because S2 will feature a really big huge map compared to levels

[solid dome]

X to doubt - lotta people

[tender torrent]

The basic goal of Stalker 2 was to create the continuation of the trilogy of the first STALKER titles, quite simply

[spring abyss]

That's why me and @solid dome gonna make the stalker 2 complete mod
No compass
Tons of bugs
Cs radiation hud
Classic gopniks

[worthy lagoon]

Well yeah, isn't that the purpose of any other sequel of a game or pretty much everything?

[solid dome]

Yes. We are committed to delivering true to the actual thing experience.

[worthy lagoon]

The thing i don't like that much of the HUD is mainly that compass

it's kinda meh

feels like Fallout telling you where to go

[silver pagoda]

Because they change their design for the better, Radar belongs to HALO multiplayer

[worthy lagoon]

"Oh look there's an undiscovered area explore this"

I hope it won't be like that

[tender torrent]

The problem is that old players just want to keep the old features from 15 years ago, from a point of view, it's understanding.

[worthy lagoon]

You could start a poll and ask to every STALKER player and see what they think about that compass, then you can call it better if you get the answer you want

my opinion is subjective

[solid dome]

How about we call it the Retardass Navigator, from retard and compass.

[silver pagoda]

i am opposed both against radar and far-cry compasses if thats what you are asking

[worthy lagoon]

Old players want to keep the old features, it's the opposite

[glossy ore]

we don't know if unexplored areas pop up there though

[sage quartz]

I’m for compass with South, North, East, West and enemy indicators, that’s all

[worthy lagoon]

yeah, the thing is it looks like it

[silver pagoda]

''Oh i played this game 10 years ago so i want it to be the same because my nostalgia goggles are too strong''

you might aswell ask them for NPCs to block the doors again

[sage quartz]

Nothing else

[solid dome]

UX design is UX design

[tender torrent]

it depends which feature

[finite dragon]

Over saturation of MMO like UI design in post apoc games is literally cancer. I'm still pissed off about the division and I hate that games are going in this direction.

Lemme write a zone cook book and brew my own vodka, let me make the zone MINE by learning how to not just survive in it, but live in it

They can do so much with 2 it's not even funny

[worthy lagoon]

Well, we are talking about the HUD

[silver pagoda]

https://preview.redd.it/sjmaiimvool81.jpg?auto=webp&s=b4e33929e1775a7c14f47fdb2ab9c8f936bacf55

[tender torrent]

some will agree and say nothing, others will want to remove this HUD

[silver pagoda]

I am not going to go far, ill just remind you all about Dying light 2 UI lmao

[finite dragon]

Who asked for devs to do this shit in the first place? What happened to die over and over again until you learn and get better?

I just now realized that dodging snorks is better than frantically firing my already low on ammo AK

[sage quartz]

Omg I finished DL2 with the tears on my eyes because how bad it was

[solid dome]

They can do at least 20 different hud designs with a team of 300 but... BUT...butt!

[silver pagoda]

Its because modern Triple A companies are infested by 'wannabe' artists who waste their life on photoshop and they want to show it in a video game. Also because they do not bother to make proper visual and audio cues, so you need wallhack markers and radars

[solid dome]

Good or bad?

[silver pagoda]

extremely colorful and average

[frail spire]

More like "I don't want sensible features and worldbuilding to be destroyed because new players are mouthbreathers that cannot even understand that crouching increases yoir accuracy"

[silver pagoda]

definitely overbloated, just dying light 2

[sage quartz]

final boss fight was so cringe

[frail spire]

Like landmark systems destroying maps and making CoP anomaly areas but everywhere

[tender torrent]

what game is this picture from

[finite dragon]

dying light 2!

[frail spire]

"haha lets add landmarks!"
rest of the map ends up being swats of dead space
Yes very good feature

[solid dome]

Bruhm

[silver pagoda]

thats the good part, wait till a button pops up and says ''press to grapple enemy'' or when you press 40 clicks to change an item

[finite dragon]

I have to play that game.

[worthy lagoon]

that's mainly why i am afraid of having a huge single map, the possibility of having dead space, while in levels there was a lot of efforts, even when compared to nowadays maps

[finite dragon]

It's sad, but I believe this game will satisfy the fan base

I'm still a new player, haven't touched CS or CoP yet but I'm sure I'll love them

I think the devs know they have something special and won't sell out for ridiculous UI that takes away from the atmosphere. The atmosphere of SoC, even with the dated graphics has me damn near shitting myself.

I cant see shit, snorks and zombies everywhere and I have no ammo. I didn't prepare correctly and the game made me pay dearly for it.

This is what I paid for and I love it all. I think the game changed my perspective on what I'll even allow myself to play anymore, I haven't touched any other game since I started.

[worthy lagoon]

or the fact that landmarks tells you where to explore ruining the experience and curiosity

[silver pagoda]

the game won't be bad, im sure of it, its just the fact that immersion gets ruined by a cyberpunk compass which apparently has drones marking enemies for you

[finite summit]

Yeah I kinda felt that when all important locations were marked in CoP

[sage quartz]

I started from CoP recently and damn this game is very spooky

[worthy lagoon]

It wasn't that bad in CoP, but it sure is like in Fallout, i absolutely don't want such thing, i'd rather remove the compass if that's the case

[finite dragon]

If they have a legit in game reason for why that's a thing- like maybe late game gear you can get, dope. I won't be using it personally but if they're gonna do stuff like that I'd prefer to have the option to turn it off

[worthy lagoon]

I don't need someone to tell me where to go or where to explore, i open the map and look for details and see where there might be a point of interest, using my brain and scanning with my eyes

[silver pagoda]

it would still be dumb because its stalker, not far cry

[hardy bear]

I've been playing some assassins creed origins and absolutely hate the sheer volume of map markers, it just turns it into a checklist over something fun. Meanwhile rdr2 had me very keen to explore with the hud off and it rewarded me for doing so, and that even had a minimap. The option to toggle it would go a long way and is all we need

[finite dragon]

I cant even look at Fallout the same after playing SoC, and I hate it because NV is my favorite game

[worthy lagoon]

Like, the only way i found the UAV in CoP it's because i was curious if that point was accessible by looking at the map

and surprise there was something

[silver pagoda]

thats the best feeling

[worthy lagoon]

instead of having a pre made landmark telling me where to go

ruining all the exploration and only thing you need to do is walking there

[finite dragon]

It makes me feel like I'm grocery shopping with the lists of mind numbing things I have to do to get to a juicy bit of narrative

[placid slate]

The image that they post its actual gameplay?

[silver pagoda]

yeah, 4K

[worthy lagoon]

exactly

[placid slate]

Holys shit thx

[finite dragon]

Agreed. I'm playing because I got my big boy huggies on, not because I need my hand held

[hardy bear]

and when those markers are required for progression, it becomes so much worse. I honestly don't have much interest in playing origins after seeing how repetitive it is

[silver pagoda]

If you think about it thats the point of an actual game, otherwise i'd watch a movie, morrowind is still bethesda's best work and it looks like trash nowdays

[finite dragon]

And what's terrible about it is that the whole mythology perspective could have been AMAZING, but they made it so long and boring. Not even going to mention how I feel the game insists apon itself in a pretentious way. It's just more of a burden than a good historical experience.

[worthy lagoon]

The only thing i would like about landmarks, aside from stashes and tasks, is the possibility of adding a landmark in the PDA yourself

[silver pagoda]

i mentioned that before, would justify removal of compass and radar really well

[finite dragon]

Morrowind is and always will be the best model for an RPG, hardly any voice acting, plenty of quests, nothing crazy, just you, your skills and ambitions.

Nostalgia aside, it's exactly what an RPG should be

[dry imp]

you're only saying this because you us ATAK

[worthy lagoon]

compared to you, i know how to create paths and landmarks in ATAK

[silver pagoda]

i like voices because they offer personality, what i dont like though is markers telling me exactly where a 'mysterious' item or area is, extreme hand holding as if im toddler and demolition of any aspect of 'immersion and exploration' in games

Which is why I hated outer worlds when I loved New Vegas, because holy fk outer worlds was bad

[hardy bear]

I agree

[silver pagoda]

I played Outer worlds on hardest difficulty where you only save on your ship, you need food, sleep, drink and repairs. I was a moving IKEA full of ammo, armors, loot within 1 hour of gameplay and the game, of course, was a bullet sponge borderlands clone on enemies. No aim sway mechanics, no recoils, nothing.

[finite dragon]

i hope stalker 2 don't include battle royale

[finite dragon]

Just let me be excited about what I found! It's like the game needs some validation and a "thank you" for showing you something.

It's why I hate AC now, anything you "find", you were lead there for an item that makes your gear marginally better than it was before you "found it"

[silver pagoda]

Yeah they pretty much give you a medal for participating, instead of actual winning, its pathetic

[finite dragon]

That game was so shit.

[silver pagoda]

kinda hard to believe new vegas devs made Outer worlds tbh lol

[hardy bear]

rdr2 somehow managed to make me want to explore just for the simple reason of finding some nice looking landscape

[finite dragon]

Changed my opinion on them forever. Except Mikey Dowling, guy is fantastic and great to talk to.

Though I'm not sure he was on the team for OW

[silver pagoda]

Here's hoping outer worlds 2 will be better under microsoft money

[finite dragon]

I still won't buy it, might play under gamepass

[silver pagoda]

yeah the world did not attract me at all, almost like a political lecturing

[finite dragon]

Devs are getting themes and lessons confused in their games now days

I want the objective lesson from the narrative, not a political opinion

[light hollow]

Well welcome to the world, everyone has a political opinion

[silver pagoda]

thats why we got twitter, i dont need this in a paid game

[light hollow]

Stalker has a political view too

[finite dragon]

Would you mind if I knocked on your door and told you about our lord and savior The Sweet Rock? He'll control your brain, you grab AK and go nuts

[silver pagoda]

the thing is how its portrayed, obviously political themes are a thing that can make good narrative

outer worlds bombards you with ''capitalism bad ooga booga''

[light hollow]

Idk where you are getting with this

[finite dragon]

NV did a fantastic job with this

[finite dragon]

Monolith

[light hollow]

Oh

[silver pagoda]

I wouldnt go as far and stay stalker has heavy political themes, there are politics between factions but thats about it, its not really any lecture that devs force

[light hollow]

Not about factions, I was talking about the goverment, people sending money to the scientists and that stuff

[finite dragon]

We're allowed to form our own opinions. That's why you don't see many arguments among the fans, everyone has their ideology they align with in the fictional world.

Fallout has the opposite problem, some people like the Enclave but they want to genocide the population, some people like the BoS and think they're good guys but it comes down to the chapter they belong to.

[light hollow]

There was a pda note with that involved, although I don't remember exactly what it said

[finite dragon]

On another note, Fallout cans can be absolutely ridiculous at times. Especially the Enclave people.

It's okay to like the faction, but applying their logic irl retoric is absolutely insane.

[silver pagoda]

Sylky is typing, get bolts out

[spring abyss]

Yeah, fallout fans will never understand the tone of stalker and roadside picnic that use the man itself as figure to talk about the diseases of the world without talk about politik itself

[silver pagoda]

i dont even like fallout man, i hate its 50-60s style merged with high tech

[tough rivet]

whats everyone up to

[finite dragon]

I hate the way 4 turned my favorite game series into a damn cartoon

[spring abyss]

I like f1 and f2, the Bethesda work on fallout is absolutely sh!t

[tough rivet]

i "like" the setting but i hate everything else

[silver pagoda]

i dislike the whole thing, but i respect those who like it, its certainly unique

[spring abyss]

You should play f1 and f2

[tough rivet]

stalker is superior obviously

[light hollow]

You KNOW it

[finite summit]

you should play FO:BoS

[spring abyss]

They are completely different games and stalker soc itself is heavily inspired on those

[glossy ore]

idk about that, the Monolith has very convincing tax policy - no need to pay them if your brain is fried

[still ridge]

That’s literally the defining feature

[silver pagoda]

Yeah, which i dislike, no hard feelings

[still ridge]

Understandable

[glossy ore]

I think NV stands out a tiny bit further from that by having some of a western theme to it

[worthy lagoon]

STALKER CoP mp? @finite summit

[silver pagoda]

I loved NV purely of writing, still disliked the setting, but obsidian nailed it

[finite dragon]

NV is an anomaly (no pun intended) in a sea of shit Bethesda titles.

[finite summit]

yeah I guess

[still ridge]

I think it’s awesome, 50’s were the so-called atomic age and they just took that literally

[spring abyss]

@silver pagoda bolt this guy

[glossy ore]

it's definitely nice that it depicted the recovery of civilization instead of everything still being ruins 200 years later

[finite dragon]

I deserve it

[glossy ore]

well, early recovery

[silver pagoda]

NV story is too same as Bloodlines, devs given limited time, created a greatly writtten game in absolutely atrocious engines yet fans loved them

[finite dragon]

Pressure creates diamonds

Or shit games, 50-50 shot

Obsidian got lucky because of 3's reusable assets

[spring abyss]

Bethesda completely forget that fallout is based on Canticle for Leibowitz novel, the society are slowly recovering but in their universe f3 and f4 it's fvcking stagnate

[silver pagoda]

Bethesda lost any redeeming writer qualities since oblivion, i mean they're pathetic cliche fairy tales by now

[glossy ore]

it's weird because by FO3's time there's already resurging states from NV and in the East there's still just small villages

[silver pagoda]

Starfield seems attractive in both setting and potential gameplay but i never forget its bethesda we talking about

[finite dragon]

Bethesda writing the most insane, horribly unlikable factions and characters into their games and making you choose one to align with:

[glossy ore]

technically FO2 already had some of this with the creation of NCR

[finite dragon]

F4 is an abomination. The amount of lore they messed up on PURPOSE just to create shit content in their DLCs

Why is X-01 PA in Nuka World when it was created on the oil rig? I hate Bethesda

[spring abyss]

Yeah, Bethesda is absolutely trash
Look the f1>f2>nv timeline
California is slowly recovering from the wastes while dc it's the same as the day the bombs drop

[silver pagoda]

making new models and textures costs dude, bethesda is indie studio

[finite dragon]

And then you can't even join the cool ones. Why tf couldn't I be a gunner???

[finite dragon]

I'll still never forget that even at like 13 years old playing skyrim, I was baffled at the fact that all of my choices were extremely unlikable. Like, imperial vs stormcloak.

British vs Racist

[silver pagoda]

I feel blessed because I was very young when I played oblivion, did not speak good english or knew wtf was going on. That sense of magic was ever there, and constant. The game started really strong and I became an ES fan because of the dark brotherhood storyline of oblivion ahahhahha

[finite dragon]

Now I hate the imperials since you put it like that

[spring abyss]

Same me with f1, the atmosphere was great and i took 7 runs until i finally found the water chip

I just stole it from the ghouls

[silver pagoda]

Game hooked me so hard I ran it on 20 fps back then and still finished after hundreds of hours because I did not understand everything, I loved the dark brotherhood storyline of oblivion so much though

[frail spire]

reminder that if you picked stormcloaks you were playing directly into filthy knife eared hands

[finite dragon]

The only game universe I've ever played with reasonable, likeable factions is Stalker and warhammer. And unfortunately, warhammer fans are generally racist and kinda weird so I'm left with stalker lmao

[silver pagoda]

Meanwhile Skyrim: Betrayal quest faction 1, betrayal quest faction 2 lmao

[frail spire]

based warhammer fans

[spring abyss]

The funny thing with f1 is that i hate the bos since the beginning, those fvckers are id!ots

[silver pagoda]

WH aint racist man lol, its just the fact that everybody in WH is an a55hole in lore

[finite dragon]

No, I mean the fans.

[silver pagoda]

i havent met any racist warhammer fans, what people you spend your time with? lol

[finite dragon]

The fans are genuine, actual racists. At least, near me they are.

[frail spire]

Can confirm, I'm good friends with plenty of those

[spring abyss]

To say for sure i hate every f1 faction, they are fvking dumb

[finite dragon]

Don't ever go to middle America.

[silver pagoda]

Warhammer is too vast, bad apples will surely be there, just like metal music and many other hobbies

[frail spire]

No, actually go middle america, most sane place you'll find

[still ridge]

Yeah go to Detroit or Chicago

[worthy lagoon]

*Don't ever go to America

[frail spire]

Yes

[worthy lagoon]

[spring abyss]

[finite summit]

*Don't ever go

[finite dragon]

*Don't ever

[frail spire]

You'll see warhammer lore irl if you go to detroit

[silver pagoda]

Ok you sparked my interested and im intrigued, time to visit America

[still ridge]

Hey man it’s not my fault I was born here

[finite summit]

It absolutely IS your fault

[still ridge]

Real talk if you want to go to the US go to the east coast

[finite summit]

Is Seattle that bad?

[silver pagoda]

Come on man, it cant be that bad. We all have negative things to say about our countries because we see the romantic sides only when we think of other countries lol

[still ridge]

There are worse cities

[finite dragon]

I hear Washington state isn't actually that bad

Good wages, good infrastructure, only problem I consistently hear about is drugs and homeless people. But that's the entire country.

[frail spire]

washington
not bad
Cmmon

[silver pagoda]

these exist in every major city across the world, unless we talk about small towns/villages

[finite summit]

Isn't washington state basically Canada but USA?

[finite dragon]

I just tried out clear sky and omg the world seems more alive especially the camp

[frail spire]

Like, cmmon

[still ridge]

A lot of states aren’t that bad when you look at the worst ones

[finite summit]

what about Ohio?

[silver pagoda]

I think y'all too negative or bored of your cities

[nimble cipher]

johngotti#8435 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[still ridge]

Kentucky, Mississippi, Georgia, etc

terrible infrastructure and quality of life

[finite dragon]

I drive through the south once or twice and I count my lucky stars I don't live there.

[frail spire]

go to a state that has no issues with guns, that way at least you can walk down safe to buy something at your local store since if it gets robbed everyone will turn around and gun the robber down

[steep panther]

So are the latest screenshots from direct gameplay or in engine/pre-rendered. Or is that info just simply unknown?

[frail spire]

Like god intended

[still ridge]

Minimum wage is the federal minimum, 7.25 or 7.50 an hour

[silver pagoda]

its gameplay

[still ridge]

Afaik

[finite dragon]

unknown

[silver pagoda]

Americans, lets trade for 1 month, come to greece, ill go to your city and assess the situation, ill catch all bad guys no effort

dont even need gun, my diplomat skills are effective

[finite dragon]

Deal.

[near star]

how tf we supposed to run stalker 2 and not make our computers resemble reactor 4

[silver pagoda]

DLSS

[still ridge]

The United States does not negotiate with terrorists

[silver pagoda]

im not a terrorist bruh lol

[steep panther]

Ah, I just wondered as the footage in the trailer does not resemble those screenshots. And they look awfully like the in-engine renders on the steam page

[still ridge]

That’s a reference

I wasn’t calling you a terrorist, that would be mean

[finite dragon]

just don't max out settings and fsr/dlss

[near star]

fair enough, never cared about it previously but I fear that might be the key

[silver pagoda]

Its just 4K, I played Metro EXODUS on 4k recently and the texture work looks as crisp as in screenshots

[finite dragon]

This is funniest shit I've seen in a week

[still ridge]

Better hope for good optimization

[finite dragon]

Wow I can't believe kiryu plays stalker

[finite dragon]

or a recommended settings machine

Kiryu chan please please join duty and put a stop to the anarchists

[frail spire]

Lets hope for good optimization or at least minimal spaghetti code

[finite dragon]

Flog me but I'm playing 2 on my Xbox, my steam deck would cause a Hiroshima

[near star]

handwarmer speedrun any%

[frail spire]

because people love to say "optimization isn't a magical thing" when it literally is and when teams actually optimize their stuff they can make it work even in a potato

[finite dragon]

Play it next winter and use it as a space heater

[silver pagoda]

It runs on UE5 so i would not be worried too much

[steep panther]

I play most games at 4k, the gameplay trailer itself was recorded with 4k footage. I just don't see the typical artefacts that would be present from 4k footage.

[finite dragon]

Or hook it up to the power grid and see what we get

UE5 is a great engine, I have a feeling it'll run fine

I'm going to run the game on medium settings most likely 1080p

[silver pagoda]

Its not true 4K footage on videos, because of the compression. The anti aliasing artifacts you see on videos are 80% less in actual real-time running of the game. The images are high-res screencaps, thats why they are so large in size

[frail spire]

I'll edit the files and make it run on 800x600

[finite dragon]

Has anyone here preordered?

[frail spire]

and make it so blurry it makes me go blind

[finite dragon]

or game pass? I'm considering gamepass and then buying it when it's on sale

[finite dragon]

Yep, haven't played CS or CoP but I fell in love with SoC and swung on 2 already

[frail spire]

Hold onto your money, buy when the game exists

[finite dragon]

very cool. I finished soc yesterday and really enjoyed it.

[silver pagoda]

if you like it buy it full price, they make the game during war, be reasonable my man unless you have financial difficulties which is all fine

[worthy lagoon]

@frail spire STALKER CoP MP?

[frail spire]

No thanks, my potato and internet connection won't allow me

[steep panther]

Typical 4k screenshots would have artefacts due to AA implementation or at least clearly displayed pixels when zoomed in extremely. I've looked incredibly closely at these latest screenshots and they just look too flawless.

It's more likely that these screenshots were touched up afterwards than them being pre-renders but I just wondered whether anyone here would have definitive proof.

[finite dragon]

I am being reasonable by making decisions with financial weight to me

but yeah that also is on my mind. Like I want to support them because they deserve it.

[finite dragon]

I'm working on it, just massacred freedom base and dropped off documents at the bar. Just ran into monolith and they ruined me

Was like a 30v1

[frail spire]

who cares about the war, if you have the extra money and you feel like it buy it, if you feel even a trace of doubt don't

[finite dragon]

This

[finite dragon]

Um is freedom base the base to the south of the Trader near the start of the game? Or is that a regular army base?

[frail spire]

Stop making decisions based of trends and think on what you would like

[finite dragon]

I don't remember if I ever took on freedom base.

[silver pagoda]

You cant have definite proof, but the game cut you saw is months old despite being released in december, the game is constant work in progress

[finite dragon]

I have no idea, I helped Skull and his exosuit guys

[still ridge]

This is the way

[finite dragon]

Yes I'm doing more of that now and I'm content.

[silver pagoda]

also as I mentioned the trailer was not true 4K resolution

[finite dragon]

Ngl I feel dirty wearing Duty armor, like I need to take a bath or something

[finite dragon]

mm I don't think I ever helped Skull lol

I missed out on it I was like not another base capture

[still ridge]

helping hatchet

[finite dragon]

Duty base leader gives the mission to get the bulldog 6 launcher and otw you can help a Duty squad attack

for a merely 2k-4k payment no doubt. I was swimming in ruples.

[frail spire]

do characters have rendered 3d pubes? otherwise it's graphical fidelity is subpar

[still ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cyber-logo-glitch-cyberpunk-gif-17862314

[finite dragon]

Oh yeah I never did that.

[silver pagoda]

noobtube

[finite dragon]

But I would have been prepped especially with the save scumming. I reloaded sooo many times in a minute in several parts of the game.

[finite dragon]

Same

[still ridge]

So I just saw the mac 10 in the screenshot