⭐┃nospoilers_general

[sand condor]

should there be dual sights

[hazy helm]

yhea I'll talk to you guys about that when I start making the mod,Imma go see about those unity tutorials
I'll be annoying you later grok,fear my questtions in the meantime

[sand condor]

carter based or flip sights

[mortal parcel]

EFT system is bad anyways, I just took it as an example because everyone knows it by now and there aren't so many games having such a system

[hazy helm]

no

[mortal parcel]

I could have taken Underrail as an example for instance

[hazy helm]

I dont really know that system,hooooo the woe

[sand condor]

why shouldn't we have it

[hazy helm]

based grok,very rare W

[mortal parcel]

Same thing but turn based, you have guns, ammo types, different kinds of armors etc

[worthy lagoon]

Again, STALKER has a completely different system, it still has a penetration system and damage system based on distance and ammunition

But it's not that noticeable

[mortal parcel]

Yeah and my point is, stalker system is very bad in the sense that it simply gives you the illusion that there's an actual system

[worthy lagoon]

An helmet can stop a 5.56x45

For many that is "realistic"

[hazy helm]

I like your words magic man,in reality,I know jackdoodoo about that stuff,and I live happily,unbothered,and sane

[worthy lagoon]

Have you played CS in Master?

[mortal parcel]

Please provide your source I'm interested

[worthy lagoon]

Basically for EFT devs an helmet can stop a rifle ammunition

which is a thing that is not possible

[hazy helm]

it is a game tho

[worthy lagoon]

well unless you are like hundreds of meters away

[sand condor]

did vanilla stalker have hunger thirst management

[worthy lagoon]

Yes, and the fun fact is that people call it "realistic"

[hazy helm]

it had hunger

[worthy lagoon]

always had hunger management, but never had any thirst management

nor water to drink

[mortal parcel]

No game has a realistic system because it would be quite boring

[hazy helm]

before realistic what the game needs to be is fun,if 5.56 could always pen helmets then what woudl be the point?run around naked,since armor will never matter bc its relistic

[mortal parcel]

and you don't play games because they are realistic but because they are fun

[worthy lagoon]

The problem are the people calling it realistic and wanting to make every single game like EFT because of "muh realism"

Acting like mil sim

[mortal parcel]

You can make mil sim like system but that are far better than EFT

[worthy lagoon]

While reality is that you'd be as good as dead if they shoot a 5.56 in your helmet

[mortal parcel]

EFT systems are a joke, man, the guns recoil?

[sand condor]

i could see higher protection armor reduce damage

[worthy lagoon]

Guns recoil are meh

Not that bad

[mortal parcel]

it's the most horrendous recoil system I ever saw

[worthy lagoon]

It's because the character is not used to recoil despite being a PMC

[mortal parcel]

basically they balance the guns recoil based on maximum recoil control skill level

[mortal parcel]

anyone that used a military rifle full auto and played tarkov will tell you that tarkov recoil is exagerated

[worthy lagoon]

yeah that's what i said

i mean

they just destroyed the M4 because of game balance

and made it a mess like if you are using a goddamn RPK

[mortal parcel]

and generally speaking the sense of progression in Tarkov is really bad. Man, so many rounds are useless. 7.62x25 ? Please. It's actually a nice round to penetrate armors, and IRL PPSH recoil ain't that bad, it's actually very gentle, and it was made specifically for that: easy to use bullet sprayer that penetrates armor.

The round was discontinued mainly because of its over penetration and because nowadays, people want stopping power because people don't wear metal plates carrier in the streets

[sand condor]

between first gameplay and the last there's significant recoil

[worthy lagoon]

I think they did it because western weapons>Russian weapons

[worthy lagoon]

Yeah, they should increase recoil in S2

It's not Far Cry

[mortal parcel]

so technically, PPSH should be the go to noob sprayer in Tarkov, but instead it's just a joke because the system and stats are so freaking bad. 25 pen for 7.62x25 Pst Gzh vs 28 for 9x18mm PM PBM gzh

[sand condor]

ppsh could be great

[mortal parcel]

Anyways, what I meant is, I hope Stalker 2 will have a nice system where different kind of bullets actually matter, or simply have one kind of bullet per caliber, but each caliber has specific roles. Having "one caliber does everything" gets boring very fast imo, because then, the loot doesn't matter anymore.

The worst system would be "better guns deal more damage". That's like what RPG games do and it's so freaking artificial

[sand condor]

like ap ammo types#?

am sure 9mm or 5.56 can't penetrate mutants

[mortal parcel]

mutants don't have armors... So you need stopping power against them

[gilded sentinel]

You know that’s stalker is an rpg right ? 👀

[mortal parcel]

It is, but it tries somehow to be realistic / immersive

[gilded sentinel]

Just saying

[sand condor]

i can see weapons like xm500 takedown mutants

[sand condor]

thick hide

[glossy blade]

ARPG

[hazy helm]

hey mol1t how are you doing

[gilded sentinel]

🤓

[glossy blade]

Hey, was investigating the death of Wolf

Or rather his absence on the post, because he is alive at the moment

[hazy helm]

most likely Mee6 going on maintnace is all,dont worry about it

[glossy blade]

think so

[worthy lagoon]

He went to the Army Warehouses but accidentally fell into a campfire, totally not my fault

[finite dragon]

he's back

BACK HE IS

[nimble cipher]

acister#6048 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[silver pagoda]

Hey GSC, thanks creating such a beautiful game in such difficult times for your countries. My best hopes for all the studio and friends over in Ukraine. 🙂 My only few criticism from the trailer which by no means is judgement or ill-will:

1. Recoil seems very far-cry like, I believe the fanbase would appreciate harder gunplay that rewards aiming, other than bullet-sponges. I believe Tarkov is a good example to take inspiration!

Other than that these are me personal wishes:

• Open world is meaningful and not a playground in the sense of Ubisoft games where everything just does not matter, it's just 'there'.

• Difficulties to keep the less bullets to kill and die motive, along with scavenger penalties and items being more uncommon

• A multiplayer mode that is more meaningful than just DM/TDM. Hunt: Showdown is a good example, not as hardcore as Tarkov, but still a hard experience.

• Able to remove all UI from screen

• Melee being actually useful somehow

• Lean right/left still existing, I did not see it on trailer ( I think )

🙂

Thanks for reading this if you do, I wish the community and the devs a great year.

[sand condor]

wrong channel

[tender torrent]

#🔍┃ask_gscarchive

[hazy helm]

The recoil seems ok,very good,the tarkov recoil seems awful tho,I'd hate it if they did that lmao

[sand condor]

what is wrong with tarkov

never played tarkov

[hazy helm]

It is a different kind of game that wants to do something very different
It's recoil isnt good

[sand condor]

is mw2 recoil good?

[hazy helm]

Never played MW22

[sand condor]

mw?

[hot tundra]

They should put Weezer in STALKER 2

[pearl wadi]

Question, is there a way to be notified for when the Retail edition for STALKER becomes prepurchasable? I'd do anything to get my hands on that

[mortal parcel]

Maybe Pseudogiant and potentially chimera but that's it imo

[sand condor]

assuming when preorders are available

[sand condor]

not like snorkers or hounds

[sage siren]

Bro everytime i get an @ in this server i get more and more excited for the game

[sand condor]

i don't care what they show

i will play this game regardless

[sage siren]

SAME but

[pearl wadi]

Same, I grew up with STALKER

[sage siren]

I didnt so im just excited to play more

[sand condor]

i like the idea of map system of ue5

[sage siren]

I cant wait for the game to come out and please take all the time you need
i dont care if it comes out in 3 months or 30 years. i will be waiting to play

[sand condor]

i wont buy stalker 2

[pearl wadi]

same, let's not have another Cyberpunk on our hands

[sand condor]

its included with gamepass

[hardy bear]

I'm interested in learning to mod this if it comes out in a good state, would be good practise

[sand condor]

modability will be easier then ever before

[hardy bear]

officially supported too so let's see what that leads to

[nimble cipher]

Airagor#5685 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hardy bear]

it won't be easy but it's worth delving into i think

[sand condor]

total conversion to fictitious weapons like blaster pistol

[sage siren]

idc what anyone says im buying the game at launch and even if the launch is buggy
i have faith in the devs to do their best and fix stuff while the modders find ways to make the game EVEN better

[sand condor]

shame xbox won't have mod support

[hardy bear]

I don't have any ability to get excited for a new launch now but I do hope it's good

[sand condor]

english please

[sage siren]

burn in the firy pit made by javlins

[sand condor]

<@&524189227144052757>

[sage siren]

go home russian boy

slava ukraini and may this war end soon

[sand condor]

may no people die

[tender torrent]

be alerted by e-mail address directly from where the pre-order merchant sites (depending on the possibility or not of the sites) if it works.

[sand condor]

or no more should i say

[sage siren]

correction* MAY PUTIN DIED

[hazy helm]

@vernal magnet you're famous Tommy

[sand condor]

don't correct me

[sage siren]

Dont be incorrect

[worthy lagoon]

what happened?

[sage siren]

russain troll

no.

bad troll

[thorny junco]

we do a little stalking

[hazy helm]

I wonder how GSC will do modding tbh

[sand condor]

unreal engine is highly modifiable

[hazy helm]

god knows it'll never be as deep as X-ray Modding unless some devious troublemaker leaks the source code

[thorny junco]

its called we do a little stalking

[hazy helm]

sure,if you have the source code,if not,thought luck,depends on how good the sdk is and even then,I have my doubts

[sage siren]

Someone will find away if the devs dont add it

someone always does

[hardy bear]

it's gonna be pretty flipping tough to figure out

[sage siren]

many hands make light work

[hazy helm]

there is a reason Unreal Engine games aren't usually moddable my friend
BC you can't reverse engenier the game into it's source code,Unreal Engine doesn't pack it's binaries with the game

[hardy bear]

seeing as it has official mod support they'd better give us somethin

[north cape]

[hazy helm]

Which means it'll fall solely under the SDK but that's very vague,it can either be really good or crap that no one is able to use and can barely get anything done
And due to the trials and tribulations the game as passed I don't expect the code to be clean

[hardy bear]

fair point

let's wait and see. i won't be able to do anything from the get go cause I know nothing about any of this at the minute

[gilded sentinel]

Never played it either , having no regrets about it

[sand condor]

would anyone buy the expansions

[north cape]

[hardy bear]

played the mw trial, it's awful

[north cape]

2019 story sucks compared to 2

[sage siren]

the only mw i played was on the ds

[gilded sentinel]

Worst game of the century

[north cape]

Yall copin fr, mw is good

[sand condor]

how is it worst

id anything cw is terrible

[hazy helm]

In short don't expect a level of modding from S2 like what it was in the past games,since the good thing about x-ray Modding is how "open" it is,the game engine has been leaked and researched to the poin it can be iterated upon and be turned into a lot of things,you're directly working on the engine itself as tho you're a dev,which gives you a staggering ammount of flexibility

[sage siren]

Not copin if i dont care

[hardy bear]

makes sense

[gilded sentinel]

Sure thing 🤡

[hazy helm]

but hey,maybe,they'll give us a good and robust SDK with great tools?these are just my fears knowing what I know

[north cape]

Yall secretly copin fr

[hazy helm]

???

[north cape]

[gilded sentinel]

:honestreactionghost:

[hardy bear]

what does the S in SDK stand for?

[hazy helm]

Im confusion

[sand condor]

software

[hardy bear]

DK is development kit right?

[hazy helm]

Software Development Kit

[sand condor]

yup

[hardy bear]

a friend of mine did some csgo map creation and used something along those lines, but I'm still in the dark about it. Is there any reason to do research beforehand that might help or is it pointless to until it comes out?

[sand condor]

if anything if calisto looks great in ue4

stalker 2 in ue 5 will be breathtaking

[hazy helm]

like I said,all we can do is speculate about how good the SDK is,it migh be a restrictive awful SDK that doesnt allow you to do much or a very indepth one that allows you to modify loads of aspects about it

[sand condor]

are sdk different dispite same engine?

[hazy helm]

I mean yhea,games arent usually made similarly,they use different tech

[hardy bear]

so games can only be properly modded if the devs provide an SDK?

[sand condor]

licensed game are nonexistent sdk

[hazy helm]

not really,game can be reverse engeniered into their original state allowing you to customize them but having a SDK and tools will always be faster and better for modders bc reverse engeniering is REALLY REALLY hard,and some times if the game isnt packed with binaries like UE,impossible

[sand condor]

reverse engineering provides unlimited possibilities

while sdk provides easier possibilities

[hazy helm]

Reverse Engeniering is preformed by magicians remotely using their pcs with their mind and coding code into the noosphere

[hardy bear]

the older battlefield games have been able to be modded to some degree, some to huge degrees. Would that have been due to reverse engineering? i can't imagine EA would give out sdk's for games like that

[hazy helm]

yhea BF2 has been reverse engineered and BF3 is being reverse engineered,they are looking for more ppl to help

[hardy bear]

I see

I won't ask about how that's done cause it sounds incredibly tough

[hazy helm]

it is

[hardy bear]

plus I've got to get back to this report that's due at the end of the day

[hazy helm]

get on it then,good luck

[hardy bear]

we've been given so little guidance as to what the module leaders want that everyone is equally confused. just doing a hail mary and hoping for the best

although the results are only 10% of our overall grade for the next 3 years so it's not that big of a deal

[vernal magnet]

Let the zone take me if I am

[solid dome]

MW?

ModernWurstware?

[solid dome]

The Zone: I assign you to drive the Death Truck!

[vernal magnet]

muffled Tokyo drift noises in the Truck Cemetary

[solid dome]

Tommy: Hold my beer. I want to install supercharger on dat thing. Change the exhaust system. Add brand new sideskirts. Slap an aerodynamic spoiler.
The Zone: WUT!

[hazy helm]

Become shaman,hermit of the zone,understand the mutants and they won't attack you

[solid dome]

Shamen!

Become a druid, one with the wild

[spring abyss]

Also i was thinking about making a unique model for shaman

But I'm running out ideas for new models

[livid viper]

Where do you order pc ultimate edition in US

[solid dome]

The Waiting Lounge

[hardy bear]

Managed to submit the report 20 minutes before the deadline. The pace was real

So, back to modding

[hazy helm]

You making a mod?

[hardy bear]

nah, just discussing it ofc

[thorny junco]

We do a little artifact collecting

We do a little artifact collecting

A fine specimen

[jagged gale]

anyone knows who sells the SUSAT scope in SOC?

[finite summit]

I believe mercs on wild territory have it on their weapons

[spring abyss]

The us government with their secret proxy war warlords

[finite dragon]

anything you guys wanna talk about?

[dry imp]

stalker

[jagged gale]

secret proxy warlords? You mean the Rothschilds?

[dry imp]

the Rothschilds paying people off to leave me on read

[finite dragon]

can you do that specifically?

[dry imp]

can i do you specifically

[finite dragon]

IDK can I?

[hazy helm]

You cannot

[dry imp]

you cannot do you

[sand condor]

can i stay outside while theres an emission

[finite dragon]

maybe if you prey hard enough

[dry imp]

yeah sure try it

[carmine crest]

they are admitting to a retcon, bad writing alert ⚠️ 🚨

[sand condor]

what is

[dry imp]

who what

[carmine crest]

idk gsc was like lol major retcon has been done

[dry imp]

okay

i mean they literally said the Zone is completely different in S2

so i expect everything to be different

[carmine crest]

they should not get r3tards to translate their things to english because GT says 'a lot of work has been done,' nothing about a retcon

[sand condor]

expansion of the zone

[carmine crest]

and of course the zone is completely different it changes constantly. i meant that this retcon if it exists possibly pertains to the story, if anything

[dry imp]

something like that

[sand condor]

like the field full of poppys

[carmine crest]

idc if they retcon the swamps or poppyfield or whatever out of the zone those areas are pretty meaningless

[sand condor]

and some old zones are different

[dry imp]

they should not translate the game into english because things have been rewritten? what?

[sand condor]

more worn due to years

[carmine crest]

I didn't know stupidity could drop this low.

"ENG

Deep dive analysis of our recent S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 trailer from @vernal magnet
We cannot confirm nor deny any of the info, but we can say that a decent recon had been done!"

translate ukranian to english and you get "Detailed analysis of the extreme trailer S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 by @vernal magnet Can't confirm or deny what was said in the video, but a lot of work has been done."

[dry imp]

how does that support your argument

[sand condor]

honestly i don't see any retcons

[carmine crest]

because potentially some moron put retcon instead of 'we're doing more work' and that would lead to misinformation on their part

[sand condor]

the zone certainly changed

[dry imp]

retcon literally just means "new interpretation"

[sand condor]

some like garbage isn't really different

[carmine crest]

yeah you keep thinking retcon means the zone changed, i'm talking story-wise. retcons usually mean something from a story is changed

[dry imp]

well yeah its a whole new story

[carmine crest]

retcons overwrite the past and replace it with the new, it's a horrible choice of words because they're usually done after the fact when something is already complete

[dry imp]

💀my lord chill out

its going to be a completely different game we know that already

[carmine crest]

the only one not chill here is you, freaking out over my words idiot. i'm stating my way of thinking. i think the lead poisoning tapped into your water supply is really getting to you

[dry imp]

some lore will be rewritten

[sand condor]

retcons are cheap lazy waybod writing already established lore

[carmine crest]

and using the word retcon is a sign of bad writing

[dry imp]

you're the one freaking out lmao 💀

gotta love stalker chat

[carmine crest]

"how does that support your argument" 🤓
for a guy discontent with GSC you sure are keen on sucking up to them right now

[sand condor]

is c concious destroyed

[dry imp]

i think

[carmine crest]

yeah it's done with they put skeletons in the machine so they didn't retcon that thank god

[dry imp]

💀i literally have not stated anything about gsc

[sand condor]

what skeletons

[vernal magnet]

It was. What's happened since is unknown

[carmine crest]

u insult them constantly in the past but ok lol

[dry imp]

i literally didn't what

[vernal magnet]

I don't see anything wrong with this. Just seems like they want to be careful about endorsing or confirming anything before they are ready

[dry imp]

my guy is losing his mind over "retcon"

[carmine crest]

yeah you and your posse always trashtalk them. it's ok to play stupid, i don't have time nor the will to entertain you

[dry imp]

now i see why people think this community is toxic 💀

[sand condor]

what one or recent retcon example

[carmine crest]

you are a slimeball

[dry imp]

you are an autist

[vernal magnet]

Relax guys

[carmine crest]

in earlier revisions they wanted to get rid of the whole strelok kills c-consciousness ending, that's a retcon. horrible writing.

[vernal magnet]

Where is the retcon?

[dry imp]

we honestly dont know what the story really is yet so i don't understand the issue

[carmine crest]

I literally don't know where it is, I was pointing out the fact that their word choice is horrible and the use of 'retcon' implies they did something pretty drastic

[sand condor]

nobody didnt even mention retcon or didnt have any concerns

[dry imp]

we'll see

[hazy helm]

Basically the English version is badly translated?

[carmine crest]

yeah well thanks to the language barrier i gotta wait another 12 months to find out i guess hoihoihoihoihoi

[dry imp]

so true

[sand condor]

what voice would you want

english or ukraine

[carmine crest]

they wouldn't even elaborate because of 'muh NDA' and their unreasonable fear of it, refusing to answer any questions.

[hazy helm]

Just ask a russian/Ukrainian speaker
@sand fiber help the poor man out

[carmine crest]

I'd go with russian voices if they offer the option, but who knows anymore. too much hate in this world

[hazy helm]

They don't

[vernal magnet]

Of what exactly I'm having trouble finding what lore is being claimed as a retcon

[carmine crest]

naturally they wouldn't

Is it a thing out of spite or just laziness?

[sand condor]

i can easily see the story change though out the playthrough

[hazy helm]

#📺┃media the message where they show your vid,in eng translation,they say "a lot of retcon had done" and it seems like the UA and RU translations don't say that

[carmine crest]

yeah sorry for pinging you by the by tommy didn't exactly cross my mind

[vernal magnet]

You guys are misinterpreting what they wrote...they are saying I did RECON. T was probably a typo

Like reconnaissance. Please God don't tell me this sparked a debate lol

[hazy helm]

most likely what happened

[hazy helm]

Sparked more like,a mindless rage fuelled rant by penumbra

[vernal magnet]

That's actually funny

[vernal magnet]

No worries hope I could clarify lol

[sand condor]

certain characters like doc could be dead by your choice or outcomes

[carmine crest]

if you're really going to misinterpret my words as rage by all means but they worded it extremely poorly & I have a notorious hatred for retcons due to how poorly they're handled

I have yet to see a good retcon pulled off anywhere

[sand condor]

that isn't retcon

[vernal magnet]

They make minor English spelling mistakes at times. It's understandable. Not a big deal. Not their primary 1st language

[carmine crest]

that's the word everyone uses for it but whatever

[hazy helm]

I hear you I hear you

[carmine crest]

I see what they meant by it now though, didn't think it had another meaning at the time. so essentially almost everything in that video is still speculation

which yknow no brainer but that confirms we're still cold on the trail siiiiiiigh

[vernal magnet]

100%. They just don't want to spoil anything

As far as retcons I'm just hoping a certain group doesn't magically appear in the zone if you catch my drift

[carmine crest]

I mean it's also possible they're just saying things like this & putting the NDA rock wherever suitable to steer people off the path. I hope to god it's not like one of those 'it was all a dream' endings

[vernal magnet]

Also true. Gotta keep up the mystery

[carmine crest]

which group do you mean? there's a new scientist group isn't there, kinda like isg, except lead by strelok?

[vernal magnet]

Well there are multiple endings. SOC had some lukewarm endings compared to the "True" ending

[sand condor]

i don't care what the story is i will like what the story will be about

[vernal magnet]

Let's just say that the group has never been in the original games before

[hazy helm]

They wouldn't put Clear Sky back on don't worry
As for Sin,there is onl one way I see them bein implemented and it's by the stragglers and survivors of the Monolith waking up and still worshipping the rock,and making the Sin Clans

[tender torrent]

According to the community, do you think that STALKER 2 could graphically resemble the game Metro Exodus?

[sand condor]

different engine so no

[nimble cipher]

PenumbralPeridoxide#9118 has been warned

Reason: insults

[carmine crest]

sin was my second guess. I'd like to see them implemented somehow but it's probably too late for them. the zone honestly doesn't inspire that much dread in me, especially not in S2, everything looks really clean actually lol

[nimble cipher]

Tampico#1776 has been warned

Reason: insults

[carmine crest]

they'd kinda stick out like a sore thumb

2 blocked messages 😱

[hazy helm]

Warned you for insults

[carmine crest]

ik lol I looked

[tender torrent]

respect the rules of the community and the server, and everything will be fine

[silver pagoda]

Engines do not matter when graphical style is in talks though, and STALKER 2 looks to have the same dark, gritty and realistic look on first person hands and characters

[spring abyss]

TAMPICO NOOOOO

[nimble cipher]

Sylky#5506 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[carmine crest]

maybe im remembering it wrong but i thought the surfaces in the trailer looks pretty clean compared to the originals

[sand condor]

the only concern i have is how long i must wait

[sand fiber]

hey hey people

[hazy helm]

Most of the theatrical man to man talks and weighty and long animations look to be normal cutscenes so that quelled my worries somewhat,I just hope they don't fudge the writting,

[carmine crest]

oh yeah i was kinda remembering it poorly. I'll say it does look a little less dreary and rundown though

[sand condor]

one thing i like is the potential amounts of cinematics

[tender torrent]

After having spent a lot of time on Metro Exodus, it seems to me that on the S2 trailers there is a small resemblance

[carmine crest]

I'd expect 20 years later things would be overgrown with all sorts of vines and junk, collapsing, etc

[vernal magnet]

They were hype trailers. Wait for the gameplay to judge. SOC trailers were very different from how the game ended up playing looking or feeling

[silver pagoda]

They both have realistic and dark atmosphere and the graphical style resembles that. Plus Metro devs are ex-stalker devs. Similarities are there since its part of the DNA and scope. I personally dig the Metro/Stalker similarities tbh.

[hazy helm]

Let's hope they stop at "they kind of look dark" and they don't have any more connections

[sand condor]

metro and stalker are very different scope

[tender torrent]

@vernal magnet Your reactions to the trailers are epic, I loved it

[silver pagoda]

Thats probably introductory to characters or important scenes, it gives a more cinematic look so new/casual players can follow the story. I like the way the conversations look. METRO Exodus had such nice writing that the cut scenes did not feel long to me. I actually enjoyed it

[vernal magnet]

Ayyy thanks man. All genuine excitement. Been waiting for this for years

[sand condor]

one open sandbox other linar story

[spring abyss]

Man those trailers from oblivion lost and those betas... dude that game was weird

[hazy helm]

I meant in the other places,it must be spot on,and not theatrical

It wouldn't fit if duty and freedom became caricatures of their appearances in earlier games

And they downgraded the factions so much in CoP it would be a massive dissapointment if they did the same in HoC

[silver pagoda]

I, for one, believe cut-scenes help the 'character' of the mentioned factions etc.... They just have to be down to earth, personality fitting the universe and not be cringe.

[vernal magnet]

I will never forget wondering what I broke when I started COP and saw how bad the visuals were compared to Clear Sky

[carmine crest]

COP was only focused on like 3 areas so it'd kind of expected that the factions would suffer for it

[spring abyss]

Right now duty is bigger thant monolith whe even got our own religion : gunsmith jesus

[hazy helm]

We aren't talking cutscenes anymore were talking normal dialogue

[carmine crest]

the military was fleshed out more though so I like that

[sand condor]

would there be a pre rendered cinematic?

[sand fiber]

who cares about casual/new players
should we make a soulslike out of stalker just because elden ring hyped last year and new players like it or smth?

[spring abyss]

Misery is already a souls like stalker

[sand condor]

strongly disagree

[hazy helm]

Sylky I will go to Brazil and track you down,you will presish

[silver pagoda]

GSC and Microsoft cares because of money, not sure what you on about. By Casual i mean those who will buy the game, finish it and touch the next DLC. You believe they make this game for like the 100 people who play anomaly or still play old installments only?

[spring abyss]

Is boring and full os useless mechanics

[hazy helm]

stay and wait there I will be after you shortly

[sand condor]

then why are you mentioning it then

[spring abyss]

You can't im hiding on the amazon forest with my pc made of bananas and trees

[vernal magnet]

This joke was a-peeling

[spring abyss]

What joke I'm really poor!

[hazy helm]

I can just give a bounty to the cartels chopping trees
Your banana pc can't power one without banana peels

[sand fiber]

microsoft is unrelated to the development of S2, and stating that capitalism is how it is doesn't make the current state of affairs any better, they are still criticizable.

[vernal magnet]

The only thing about the game that worries me is the lack of weapon recoil

[sand condor]

which later gameplay hws

[spring abyss]

The cartels are In fear of my banana made army

[hazy helm]

like you said,it's to be cinematic,to hype you up,I'm sure they will fix it
The last thing I want however is tarkov recoil that would Sucks

[finite summit]

Isn't HoC basically Tarkov 2?

[vernal magnet]

Not like SOC. The ak74u kicks like a mule in SOC. I haven't seen a single HOC clip force the camera to recoil with firing

[vernal magnet]

They will hang you from the trees for saying this

[sand fiber]

*anomaly 2

[silver pagoda]

You make no sense whatsoever, Microsoft already paid GSC for Game pass and S2 is timed exclusive on Xbox. I am not sure where capitalism fits in, but if you think S2 is being made only for 'hardcore' fans you are mistaken lol.

[finite summit]

GAMMA 2

[hazy helm]

I'm already preparing rope and getting on a plane bro

[sand condor]

can i take you out

[finite summit]

It's of vital necessity for every tankie to mention how bad capitalism is in every conversation

[spring abyss]

[silver pagoda]

Tarkov recoil is great even if its a bit exaggerated tbh, not sure how people dont like the recoil when its aim is to be aim and control requiring, while being 'realistic' enough

[sand fiber]

Microsoft sponsoring GSC to have their game exclusive for Xbox =/= Microsoft controlling the development of the game

Where did i say about S2 being made for hardcore players? My statement was that altering the game towards the mainstream consumers is not a good thing

[sand fiber]

tankie

[finite summit]

tankie

[wanton trail]

Get hoes

[spring abyss]

Gears of the zone with blackjack and bloodsuckers with cat ears

[sand condor]

definitely the double barrel shotgun kickback alot

[silver pagoda]

Dark souls is aimed at mainstream consumers aswell and its not a bad, nor an easy game. Its story telling is through reading because thats where they chose to go with it, while S2 is obviously going for the more cinematic/METRO route

[sand fiber]

call of ch.... OH NO

[spring abyss]

DON'T SAY IT

[nimble cipher]

Sylky#5506 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[sand fiber]

more like dark souls formed an audience, but i won't get into it and we don't know what style S2 is going for lol

whatever

[finite summit]

Didn't stuhlker also form an audience?

[spring abyss]

Yes anomaly fans.... i mean lost alpha fans... i mean cop fans... i mean the gopnik community..... i mean life of borys fans 😎👍

[silver pagoda]

DS3 and Elden ring are both mainstream games, the audience can co-exist with the casuals who recognize a game's strong points. Some people won't stay and read 1000 of lines of dialogue in a modern game, S2 will probably be featuring a lot of cut scenes on important moments

[supple bay]

Is the british L85 you can buy at BAR better than the fast firing AKM-74/2 you find in Strelok's stash in the tunnels?

[silver pagoda]

Also why the hate for anomaly/misery, they both good mods lol

[wanton trail]

Game purists are weird dawg

[supple bay]

I thought stalker 2 would be like the OG stalker games but with better graphics

[spring abyss]

It's not stalker, that's all 😎👍

[finite summit]

However I do think that worries of game turning out to be "what every other modern AAA game is" are quite justified. The thing about ressurecting a franchise is that it's new installment may significantly differ from it's predecessors due to new trends in the industry. Something similar happened to God of War for example

[silver pagoda]

How so? Because of the more grindy gameplay?

[spring abyss]

It's just not 😎👍

[supple bay]

I hope stalker 2 is just normal stalker but with better graphics. We dont need more METRO we already have metro

[wanton trail]

Go to ukraine for the real stalker experience

[silver pagoda]

Dunno, misery feels pretty STALKER to me man, but with more survival elements

[spring abyss]

No😎👍

[supple bay]

Also metro sucks because the developers cant figure out how to make your progress save for some reason

[finite summit]

Did it have save corruption issues or something?

[silver pagoda]

Yeah it is, you just troll at this point. You can say you dislike them, but dont ''tHey ArE nOt StaLkEr'' me man lmao

[spring abyss]

Stop crying 👍

[silver pagoda]

Skill issue, cant beat misery probably

[supple bay]

I looked it up and its because the save file needs to be set to read only or something. But when I tick the box, save, and close it unticks automatically due to a windows bug its infuriating I just gave up

[heavy wing]

Metro exodus just overwrites all your saves🤣

[spring abyss]

Every misery fan be like:

[silver pagoda]

Skill issue bro, it's fine though, far cry had a new game last year I think

[supple bay]

No other game has this issue which is why its the METRO devs' fault

[spring abyss]

Kkkkkkkkkk why you guys get so pissed off with your precious misery ?

[silver pagoda]

I love METRO to death but dying and going back to a cutscene and waiting for the dialogue to play again is a pain in the ass

[vernal magnet]

It doesn't really work that way at all. Microsoft only signed on for game pass and a 3 month exclusivity agreement. They have zero say about how the game is developed

Notice GSC doesn't push Microsoft and xbox splash screens for every trailer reveal? Only on the Xbox channel. Take a wild guess why

[silver pagoda]

real question is

how many of you lads play STALCRAFT, lets go farm bandits

[hazy helm]

Xbox Game Pass publishing deals with games are different then when it used to be
Microsoft basically pays loads of fees so you can release the game on Game Pass day one and get it exclusive to Xbox for some time

[spring abyss]

Get out here

[silver pagoda]

dont throw bolts at me dawg

[hazy helm]

PFFFF,unless you are on russian server,and can wait 1-2 years so I learn Russian hahaa

[silver pagoda]

it released in EU my man

half the content so far tho, at least its not pay to win like in RU (from what i've heard)

[hazy helm]

yheeee I'm not playing that hahahahahahaha
Keeping it on the russian server

[sleek tundra]

Based NozAr take, this will be a fine addition to my collection

Either way the existence of Gamma is living proof that gamers don't care if something is hardcore or not, if a youtuber said it's good then they will play it

Youtubers have so much power at convincing gamers, they could make stuff up and it would be believed easily - see cyberpunk 2077 list of 'promises'

[sand fiber]

that's why i wrote =/=, which means "does not equal to"

[vernal magnet]

Gotcha. I misread

[drowsy valley]

so uh i kinda grabbed the laptop from the mecernary base in CoP before getting a mission for ir

now what do i do with it

[hazy helm]

Stash it until you get the mission and then give the laptop

[drowsy valley]

i forgot where i get the mission

[silver pagoda]

Give it to Noah, the monk-looking ass trader, the dialogue is something like ''You will be interested in this'' or something

[drowsy valley]

i just sold em to owl 💀

[silver pagoda]

Good man, make good bizniss, buy much vodka

[drowsy valley]

oh yeah i also have a guitar in my personnal stash, somehow got one as an item

[silver pagoda]

dont remember what you do with it, been a long time since vanilla for me, playing EFP most of the time now

[drowsy valley]

you dont do anything, i got it from a bandit, a bug causes every single npc's guitar, PDA, and harmonica to become tradeable

surprised those things have everything from price to description made when they're not supposed to be obtainable

[silver pagoda]

I think you can sell PDAs at the trader on second level of the ship for money

But the trading does not happen in trade window, its dialogue

[drowsy valley]

nope, they're completely woerthless cause they aint got no info

ive had multiple bugs happen, the worst one being that all streloks stashes was the same loot meaning no strelok SGI for me

[silver pagoda]

Try looking for an unofficial patch or something similar, i am not currently up to date with the vanilla modding/bugfixing scene

[drowsy valley]

i dont have any mods installed

[silver pagoda]

yeh that's what im suggesting, maybe some patch from community fixes the said issues

[drowsy valley]

i guess, i mean i got the SGI no issue in my last playthru

[scenic phoenix]

Helloo

[finite dragon]

Hello

How are you peoples doin?

[dry imp]

FUNKE

[sleek tundra]

#⭐┃nospoilers_general: enjoying their time

Me about to spam NLC 7 praise comments just to piss them off

[dry imp]

ANOMALY IS THE BEST STALKER

[nimble cipher]

Tampico#1776 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[finite dragon]

I have a question

Is that one mutant with a gas mask also called a snork in foreign stalker?

[sleek tundra]

No, he's called секс

[finite dragon]

Very funny

[sleek tundra]

Probably also called a snork

[finite dragon]

You know what i am talking about right?

The mutant that walks on all fours and wears a gas mask

Humanoid

[hazy helm]

yes he's called a snork

[sleek tundra]

it's called a snork in both russian AND ukrainian copies

[finite dragon]

Ok thx

[sand condor]

would anyone attempt to kill a psy deer

[sleek tundra]

[dry imp]

HUNGRY.

[limpid salmon]

only if you want your stomach to glow

[dry imp]

im already a glowie

[limpid salmon]

uncommon

[sand condor]

anomaly bear

[finite dragon]

Yes I would...

[limpid salmon]

yea why are there no bears? like in the red forest

[sand condor]

is that a fruit punch bear

[finite dragon]

Tampico? Isn't that the name of the carpenter company from breaking bad?

[dry imp]

what.

[finite dragon]

Tampico

[dry imp]

thats me

[sleek tundra]

Because we don't want to make players have even more reasons to avoid red forest

[sand condor]

red forest confirmed in s2?

[finite dragon]

In the pilot of breaking bad krazy 8 tells walter about his uncles cimpany

[dry imp]

[finite dragon]

The name of the company is tampico

[limpid salmon]

but realism

[sleek tundra]

Anomaly player detected, racial slurs dropped

[dry imp]

im tampico

[sand condor]

if you woke up in red forest

[dry imp]

id be very confused on how i ended up in ukraine

[sand condor]

what would you do?

[sleek tundra]

Suicide by bullet through the head

[sand condor]

ukraine is terrible place to explore and wonder

[limpid salmon]

never played

[sand condor]

so many things want to kill you not yo mention emissions

[dry imp]

all of ukraine

[limpid salmon]

try to seduce a pseudodog

[sleek tundra]

Wait you're only talking about the zone? I thought ukraine in general

[sleek tundra]

FREEDOMER DETECTED!!!!

[nimble cipher]

Lord Trashcan#9358 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[dry imp]

ukraine in general

[finite dragon]

I once had a trip to ukraine and explored pripyat

[dry imp]

many many emissions

[sand condor]

how beautiful is ukraine zone

[sleek tundra]

Imagine stalker SoC but 10 times worse

[finite dragon]

I saw reactor nr 4

[sleek tundra]

Did you disable the brain scorcher?

[sand condor]

define worst

worst as in terrible or something else f

[finite dragon]

And i saw the swing thingy that we call the devils windmill in poland

Idk how it's calleed in english but the yellow swing thing

[sleek tundra]

Terrible

[last pine]

U mean yellow claw?

[finite dragon]

No

[delicate chasm]

колесо обозрения

[finite dragon]

Like the eye of london thing

[delicate chasm]

It's called a Ferris wheel

[last pine]

Ah, that one

[sand condor]

would like to explore the urban city

[delicate chasm]

something similar in russian language, "devil's wheel"

[sand condor]

that one with the carnival wheel

[ember moth]

This is my daily "vanilla is great" message to meet my quota

Vanilla is great and perfect

[sleek tundra]

This is my daily "NLC is better" message to meet my quota

[sand condor]

i disagree

[finite dragon]

Nice

[sand condor]

salted caramel or chocolate is better

[vernal magnet]

A man after my own heart

[sleek tundra]

WIPERGONE MY NEW FRIEND!

[nimble cipher]

Lord Trashcan#9358 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[sleek tundra]

[vernal magnet]

Wolf needs to crawl back in the fire barrel

[sand condor]

am after a great taste

[ember moth]

Is your heart an artifact? Because mine is a detector and its beating for you

[vernal magnet]

He really be hating on the caps lock lol

[sand condor]

is red forest confirmed in s2

[finite dragon]

Question: do i kill friend for money and other stuff or stay loyal? [In Game]

[vernal magnet]

BRB gonna make stalker valentine cards for next month lol

[sleek tundra]

Kill friend for money and other stuff

[vernal magnet]

Intrusive thoughts about to claim this man fellas

[ember moth]

Imagine GSC reading this and adding it as a cheesy dialogue line in some romance quest in S2

[sleek tundra]

What romance? There won't be women anyway

[dull orchid]

kill friend absltly

oh in game nwm

[ember moth]

Nobody said anything about women

[sleek tundra]

Stalker 2 is taking a realistic approach, so unicorns like them won't be added

[sleek tundra]

Bloodsuckers qualify as women

[ember moth]

Bloodsuckers have no genitalia, burers on the other hand...

[sleek tundra]

😎

[limpid salmon]

someone with good stalker knowledge can DM me? its important

[sleek tundra]

Ask it here?

[ember moth]

^ so we can publicly fight over it

[dull orchid]

aaah stalker offical community time

[finite dragon]

If the reward is bad i can always go back to last save

[limpid salmon]

too much knowledge, plus its classified ukrainian army info

[sleek tundra]

This guy is about to pull a warthunder moment

[finite dragon]

They think i am just stalker but i am really a god

[ember moth]

Its okay all of it is in reddit thanks to the professional international volunteers

[limpid salmon]

no one?

[sand condor]

i see the chornobyl pp

[hazy helm]

DM me

[sleek tundra]

chornobyl?

[sand condor]

it looks like exactly the game

[ember moth]

I knew an Estonian who made a 1x1 remake of a military base from his country as a map in CS2D

[sleek tundra]

No I mean, chornobyl? You mean Chernobyl?

[dull orchid]

we don't use chernobyl anymore apparently

ukranian time

[sleek tundra]

Why?

[sand condor]

chornobyl is ukraine spelling and is right

[sleek tundra]

Okay but chernobyl is english spelling and we're currently speaking in english

[finite dragon]

What if war thunder and stalker made collab so we could fly migs in zone?

[dull orchid]

stalker 2 is called chornobyl in title too

as of now

[sleek tundra]

It was originally called chernobyl

[ember moth]

Hottake: it should be kept as Chernobyl because Chernobyl isn't a Russian legacy but a Soviet one and the incident happened when it was called Chernobyl

[dull orchid]

yeah they changed it

[sand condor]

s2 had a title change

[sleek tundra]

BASED TOAD

BASED TOAD

[nimble cipher]

Lord Trashcan#9358 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[limpid salmon]

based wolf

[sleek tundra]

I know, why change it?

[sand condor]

it's obvious

[sleek tundra]

I know, sex

[vernal magnet]

Ah, a Fellow man of lore

[ember moth]

They can rename Kiev as Kyiv though, not as impactful

[sand condor]

then why ask if you knew

[sleek tundra]

I want knowledge

[ember moth]

Tbf, there is atleast 1 woman in the zone and she is mentioned in CS

[vernal magnet]

Lmao please explain

[finite dragon]

I have a good idea for s2 name

[sleek tundra]

Warthunder players have, on multiple occasions, leaked classified tank documents to make the game more accurate

[ember moth]

Purists on suicide watch because Chernobyl and Chornobyl aren't the same place therefore S2 is an alternate reality

[vernal magnet]

Based

[finite dragon]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Legacy/legacy of the fallen

[vernal magnet]

Didn't she die years prior? CS was already a prologue too so it was way back in the zones first days when we knew nothing about the zone

[ember moth]

S2 should actually be named Stalker 3 2, because S2 from 2002 was cancelled and S2 from 2011 is actually S3 or S4

[vernal magnet]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Shadow Of Floppa

[dull orchid]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Amnesia

original concept fr

[vernal magnet]

More like A.n.o.m.a.l.y shadows over stalker amirite?

Damn anomaly fanbois

[ember moth]

Well the stalker who tells us the story says that she left the zone safely, while she isn't there this still means that a woman survived, but im sure she hasn't met a bandit thats why

[vernal magnet]

Yea the social sexual implications of women in the zone is such a big turn off since it doesn't fit the lore

I don't want a grape zone I want hell on earth

[finite dragon]

Stalker elephant's foot

[ember moth]

The only women is the zone herself and the multiplayer omniscient voie

[dull orchid]

stalker strelok's secret sex stash

[sand condor]

come on

wanna get blocked?

[finite dragon]

It'll be actually nice if there were women but not sexualized in typical game fashion. Normal prptective clothing, dirty hair etc.

[limpid salmon]

people will sexualize them

[ember moth]

@limpid salmon i DMed you

[finite dragon]

Well they sexualize snorks so no big suprise

Remember rule 34 of the internet?

[limpid salmon]

thats what i mean

[limpid salmon]

yes

[vernal magnet]

It would be nice if Life worked like that.

[scenic phoenix]

Hii

[finite dragon]

I am litrl buying the stalker gas mask

The pbf

I have an polish om14 already and i wanted to build a collection

[sleek tundra]

No they don't, I checked

[finite dragon]

U sure bro?

[limpid salmon]

not as much as bloodsuckers

[finite dragon]

Gonna dm you something

[delicate chasm]

I have literally seen a clip from a mod where someone made snorks with huge tits. I will never unsee that sh*t and my life will never be the same.

[supple bay]

What bulletproof vest has the best protection out of monolith vest, stalker suit, and merc vest? In call of chernobyl

[limpid salmon]

im interested, of course, scientifically

[sleek tundra]

Rookie you IDIOT you can never find snork pornography

[scenic phoenix]

we love stalker community!!!

[sleek tundra]

The veterans are screwing with you again, go touch artifacts

[delicate chasm]

I only love the vanilla-loving part of it

[limpid salmon]

its freedoms fault

[scenic phoenix]

fair

[sand condor]

your being cringe now

[sleek tundra]

You're*

[sand condor]

and you included

[sleek tundra]

And*

[sand condor]

feel the need to correct people? dont

[supple bay]

don't*

[sleek tundra]

Feel*

[sand condor]

does it really bother you that much

grow up and worry about your life instead

[vernal magnet]

I can't leave you boys alone for 10 minutes without trying to devour each other

[sand condor]

at this point am past the point of caring

[vernal magnet]

It's not that serious

[sand condor]

thats what you think

[vernal magnet]

Any of you arguing with each other would be friends IRL for the simple fact you all like Stalker. It's in forums where it gets salty as the sea

[sand condor]

but reeks of obnoxious to me the fact people have to resort to correct every tiny thing

[vernal magnet]

I don't disagree. Try not to feed the trolls

[sand condor]

i dont know them and never will happen

which is why they are permanently blocked

[limpid salmon]

true I can be trusted around sharp objects and firearms

[vernal magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-juice-refresh-it-is-what-its-is-playa-sip-gif-17436001

[sleek tundra]

No, worry brings panic, panic brings sadness, sadness is negativity, negativity is bad

[finite dragon]

Check dm and go pray for humanity or something

[sleek tundra]

Checked it, not sure how you found it since I've purposely looked it up and couldn't find it

[limpid salmon]

freedom members

[gilded sentinel]

Can’t worry if you don’t have a life

[sand condor]

would i even be here if i don't exist

sounds to me your dumb

[gilded sentinel]

I never said I’m smart

[limpid salmon]

how come theres no vc in this server?

[delicate chasm]

because there isn't

[limpid salmon]

why

[delicate chasm]

because

[limpid salmon]

unvalid reason

[delicate chasm]

invalid is the word

unvalid is also the word, but there is still no vc just because

[sand condor]

you got a brain right?

[delicate chasm]

don't be mean

[sand condor]

who asked for your input

i cant stand idiotic things

[vernal magnet]

Bro you know why lmao

[gilded sentinel]

So you cans stand ?

[delicate chasm]

Oh no, he can't stand idiotic things

Guys we really have to make sure we don't upset some guy from the internet, it really seems to cause him major distress

[limpid salmon]

no i dont

[vernal magnet]

Toxicity more than likely

And they can't easily moderate it like they can text channels

[limpid salmon]

nonsense

make it available for experienced and up

[hearty vigil]

And vanilla purists only.

[limpid salmon]

yes

[finite dragon]

Like some russian screeming "blyat" next to a jet engine/max volume hardbass?

[delicate chasm]

more like endless political sh1t talk

with some really gruesome vocabulary

[finite dragon]

I just have csgo ptsd i guess

[tender torrent]

Before the mode of STALKER, the zone, there was nothing? it was normal life

[sand condor]

you really don't care

[spring abyss]

Just like our world i think, a big radioactive area

[delicate chasm]

what gave that away?

[delicate chasm]

Regular Chernobyl Exclusion Zone

[tender torrent]

Oh yes it's true

There has never been a woman in stalker to my amazement lol

[delicate chasm]

Canonically there was, but not in gameplay

[tender torrent]

the men stayed and the women left

if there would be women in the area, it would make men lose their heads

Artifacts would be plentiful

[delicate chasm]

What do you mean?

[tender torrent]

The men would certainly be less focused on the zone if you know what I mean

[delicate chasm]

There is a quest artifact in CS that has no benefit to the player but the description says that it supposedly has a power to attract women lol

[tender torrent]

luckily it doesn't really exist hahaha

[spring abyss]

Woman is an anomaly

[dry imp]

fake

[delicate chasm]

Are you shitposting?

[dry imp]

are you 💀

[delicate chasm]

No

[dry imp]

you are

[supple bay]

the real reason theres no women is because GSC didnt want to spend time on making new models, animations, and voicelines

[delicate chasm]

I don't understand what you're trying to achieve here, but if you somehow want to make a point that there were no women in the Zone, then you don't know the game's lore well

[dry imp]

true

[supple bay]

Has anyone else noticed that all the stalkers have massive feet

[delicate chasm]

I haven't seen any stalkers take off their boots

[supple bay]

I looked at a loner's feet and his shoes were as wide as his thighs

[tender torrent]

That's why the gravitational anomaly sucks and explodes it

[delicate chasm]

Yeah but that leads only to the conclusion that their boots are big, not their feet

[spring abyss]

The foot anomaly

[supple bay]

People only wear massive shoes if they have massive feet

[delicate chasm]

IRL yes, but we're talking about protective equipment. Have you never worn steel toe boots?

Anyway i'm just poking at you. The models do look a bit wonky lol

Some models have proportions like those of a hobbit

[supple bay]

This dude has feet the size of cinderblocks

[delicate chasm]

Why are you looking at their feet anyway?

Are you one of those weirdos?

[supple bay]

Someone was taller than me so I looked down to see if he was standing on something and I noticed how big his feet were

[delicate chasm]

Marked One is tiny in SoC, everyone's taller than him

[celest cosmos]

Hello everyone !! so excited for the game

anyone knows if the collectors edition is available ?

[sleek tundra]

It doesn't attract anything and I kept it on for the entire game, living proof that women are fake

[sleek tundra]

Who's gonna tell him?

[celest cosmos]

I know the current situation. still excited tho

[sleek tundra]

I meant the actual game isn't gonna be that good

[delicate chasm]

Ignore him, he's a troll

[delicate chasm]

I'm pretty hyped too. Love the last trailer

[sleek tundra]

I'm not, you're free to talk with me about the game and I'll provide actual logical arguments

[hearty vigil]

[delicate chasm]

The game didn't even come out yet for any of your arguments to be logical

[celest cosmos]

I am currently playing gamma, easy top 3 favourite games of all time

[sleek tundra]

But gamma is out

[delicate chasm]

Yikes.

[celest cosmos]

haha why ?

[hearty vigil]

Cringe

[sleek tundra]

Sorry kid, stalker 2 won't be like gamma in any way, shape or form

[delicate chasm]

Vanilla one love

[sleek tundra]

Ignoring the mod's actual bad sides, it's just too different

[delicate chasm]

Not even going to ask

[celest cosmos]

naah gamma is great. I actually plan on playing the vanilla ones, bought them all

[sleek tundra]

You've played gamma before vanilla?

Sinner

[celest cosmos]

yeah

[sleek tundra]

Why would you do that? It's like installing fallout the frontier or new california for fallout new vegas before trying vanilla

[celest cosmos]

doesnt matter what I played first, which stalker game is better.. only thing that matters is that I am here excited for the new game because these devs made amazing games

[hearty vigil]

It’s ok, I’m happy to share details to unwilling listeners.

[sleek tundra]

You haven't played the games, you can't judge them

[celest cosmos]

but I will

[hearty vigil]

You have not played any games actually developed by devs.

[sleek tundra]

And it does matter when gamma is extremely different to vanilla

[sleek tundra]

Sure, but you still can't judge them. You're calling them 'amazing games' even though you haven't even installed one of them

[hearty vigil]

Gamma is not stalker, it’s a different game on the same engine and with same setting. But everything else is different.

[sleek tundra]

Not the same engine, it's a modified fork of X ray

[glossy ore]

It's more you might be setting yourself up for disappointment depending on how open you are to how the actual games in the series do things

[hazy helm]

hey guys wassup

[delicate chasm]

same old

[hearty vigil]

They did not do as many changes as devs did between SoC and CoP, and both of those are X-Ray.

[sleek tundra]

Everything's great, though you haven't given me an update on NLC @hazy helm

[hazy helm]

hopefully sunnier than yesterday

[hearty vigil]

Does not matter what fancy name they call, it’s still X-Ray.

[sleek tundra]

First of all, the engine went from 32 to 64

[hazy helm]

Im actually working on smth rn so I havent looked at NLC7

[celest cosmos]

this discord server thicker than cod ones lmao

[sleek tundra]

That's like saying unreal engine 5 is the same as unreal engine 1

[hazy helm]

??

[sleek tundra]

Why? Because we don't like a crappy mod?

[finite dragon]

fr

[sleek tundra]

It's not like we actually insulted you, all we did was mock gamma (based)

[hazy helm]

what the hell happened here

[finite dragon]

i say "based" to validate myself

[sleek tundra]

[celest cosmos]

well a lot people love it so.. I guess its subjective

[finite dragon]

(i dont have a father)

[sleek tundra]

No it isn't, it's objective

[hazy helm]

I huh....?

[celest cosmos]

oof

[sleek tundra]

Love how newbies are complaining about how toxic the community is, then proceed to mock us for not liking their mod

[hearty vigil]

It’s not stalker though.

If you come for a realistic shooting simulator and not a fun FPS-arcade that is focused more on fun than realism, stalker is not for you.

[glossy ore]

I mean, they said they'd play the series so idk what more you want - but yeah it's quite a bit different from the trilogy

[finite dragon]

i didnt do anything

[hazy helm]

Im huh,going now,huuuuh,see you

[fluid abyss]

I wonder... will stalker campaign have you become aligned with monolith?

[celest cosmos]

oof ... such a thick server goddamn

[fluid abyss]

like as part of the story, si8nce monolith is relatively neutral in the sense that its just straight up hostile to everyone

[finite dragon]

i only want realistic shooters when im shooting civilians

[sleek tundra]

They said that the original stalker games are amazing even though they never played it, all I did was question how they're praising it if they never played it

[finite dragon]

like microsoft flight sim should be remade into an fps game where you are a terrorist who hijacks an airplane

[glossy ore]

maybe? there's seemingly monolith dudes actively talking to people judging by the trailer

[celest cosmos]

based on peoples general opinion

[quiet pecan]

Why this mod bad? I didn't played this

[celest cosmos]

its not

[delicate chasm]

Don't mind their pushy vibes.
It's just that vanilla games are often played without much consideration for the many minute details that expand the comprehension of the world of the Zone and the world around it.

[sleek tundra]

You just admitted that you're using other people's opinions to judge something, not your actual experience

[hearty vigil]

That’s Strider’s group, so not really Monolith.

[delicate chasm]

You guys are giving vanilla fans a bad name right now.

[glossy ore]

I don't think so? Blind man seems like a sort of Monolith leader

[hearty vigil]

Especially after so many years after CoP.

[hazy helm]

did they confirm it

[delicate chasm]

There's a much nicer way to promote the idea than what you're doing at the moment making a guy who just came here feel so uncomfortable

[glossy ore]

"You cannot kill God..." seems pretty obviously Monolith to me

[hearty vigil]

Don’t call that guy a vanilla fan, he’s real NLC shiller.

[sleek tundra]

For the record, I don't like the vanilla games - I don't hate them, but I don't like them too much

[quiet pecan]

I just asking why he think that it's bad, i wont call it good or bad, because i didn't played it

[hearty vigil]

They confirmed there IS Strider in this trailer but not that this is him.

[delicate chasm]

I'm talking about you too, like I told you many times before, there's a better way to do this

[sleek tundra]

I haven't insulted him, all I did was say that gamma is very different to vanilla stalker

[celest cosmos]

then why are you here if you dont like the vanilla games and the mods ?

[glossy ore]

as far as the mods I feel like you can enjoy both things, it just might be unrealistic to expect much of Anomaly/GAMMA things in the sequel since they're a continuation of the series and not of mods

[sleek tundra]

Who said anything about not liking the mods? I play NLC

[celest cosmos]

play it, see for yourself. At first I thought it was weird and not for me. really good

[hearty vigil]

BOOOOOOOOOOO NLSHILL

[sleek tundra]

• the guy who praised the vanilla stalker games without trying them

[nimble cipher]

street cred#4937 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[hazy helm]

then my theory that the story will go into the angle of Monolith fighters waking up from their indoctrunation and trying to get into stalker community again and the stalker clan that was created (ward) to hunt them down for being past monolith

[sleek tundra]

Get your head out of CS' butt for a second

[quiet pecan]

I don't have time to play new mods at this time(

[crude musk]

🥳

[hazy helm]

we are so over

[sleek tundra]

Damn purist, this guy makes me look like a functional human being

[delicate chasm]

Accusing a guy is not gonna get you anywhere and is more likely to make him not want to follow your suggestions to play vanilla games

[hazy helm]

let us pray for our little trashcan boy

[glossy ore]

I think the balaclava dude seen beside the blind man might've turned on a machine related to the Wish Granter or something like that

[hazy helm]

@fluid abyss dunno if thats waht you wanted tho

[sleek tundra]

Look, I'll admit, I should've been a bit nicer. Your patience just runs out when you have to deal with anomaly players who, 7 out of 10 times, haven't played the original games for longer than 3 hours

[delicate chasm]

Your short patience is a skill issue

[sleek tundra]

It makes you question why they're here instead of Gamma or Anomaly's server

[celest cosmos]

man I can get the smell of tobacco and the mountain of dorito crumbles you need to climb to get out of your chair to get some sunlight and the questionable wet towels under your chair from over here.. Ive been here for 5 min and can already tell you spend your whole day in here being a smartass. relax man, I know life has been hard on you just chill

[glossy ore]

I mean this person straight up said they would play the series, it seemed pretty uncalled for

[fluid abyss]

would be interesting

[delicate chasm]

Because their main association is with Stalker and this is a main stalker server

[hazy helm]

we can just admit to both Gamma and NLC7 being bad,a compromise

[fluid abyss]

I only wish for stalker to be fun as hell & replayable, and not some generic looter shooter

[sleek tundra]

I'd rather die

[glossy ore]

I hate games

[hazy helm]

HAAAATE

[celest cosmos]

i hate hate

[sleek tundra]

Look who's talking, the dead faction supporter. Where did you get your badge, the grave?

[hazy helm]

it would be weird to see them go thru the looter shooter route especially with that UI and mechanics that were shown
so dont worry,its looking to be pretty close to the OGs,and thats pretty thankful,and Im sure they balanced the consumable animations well enuff

[sleek tundra]

HEALING ANIMATIOMS

[nimble cipher]

Lord Trashcan#9358 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[hazy helm]

I have stolen valor as well

[sleek tundra]

Anyway, enough insults for the day

If I wanted to insult a dead faction I'd open clear sky and close it before reaching the main menu

[hazy helm]

[glossy ore]

Clear Sky was an inside job anyway

[hazy helm]

stalker Psyopping you throught an entire game confirmed

[glossy ore]

Lebedev member of The Group

[fluid abyss]

well I mean like, I want it to be a better Metro Exodus. The game had a lot of good parts but I think it suffers because it's so linear, even if its semi-open world.
Once I've played through an area once, the combat was so similar throughout the entire game that I'd know exactly what the area would be like the second time around.

[sleek tundra]

Sorry to disappoint you but my metabolism is pretty fast

[fluid abyss]

with sdalger, the combat is fun enough where each engagement seems somewhat fresh

[hazy helm]

I dont think its a fair comparison to force comparation with metro
they're wildly different,and try different things

[sleek tundra]

Metro and stalker have different goals

Metro is a survival horror game, stalker is a fast paced shooter with some survival horror mechanics

[fluid abyss]

metro? survival horror? I would say stalker is more of a survival horror because the linear nature of metro means you will always have enough bullets to last the entire game

[sleek tundra]

Not sure which game you've played, chief

[fluid abyss]

metro was more just a crafting shooter imo with light looting elements

[sleek tundra]

Are you talking about 2033 or exodus?

[fluid abyss]

all of them, playing the bad route is an action game, playing the good route is just stealth
not a whole lotta survival imo

though in this specific instance, I'm talking more about exodus

[sleek tundra]

2033 had absolutely no crafting mechanics, ammo was fairly scarce even on the easier difficulties

[hazy helm]

Metro has more overtly survival horror elements,from 2033 and even in LL,exodus somehwat continues this but its a lot more bombastic

[sleek tundra]

Even just comparing Exodus and 2033 is hard because Exodus mainstreamed the game

A lot less survival horror mechanics, more ammo and supplies, crafting, etc

[fluid abyss]

I'd say exodus was more survival than the prior games

[sleek tundra]

Stalker either way would absolutely not qualify as a survival horror due to the amount of crap you can purchase or find on corpses

[fluid abyss]

the prior games were more horror though

[sleek tundra]

In this instance we're talking about survival horror, not survival

[fluid abyss]

isn't survival horror literally just a combination of those two genres tho

[sleek tundra]

Both are different

[sleek tundra]

Nope

It's a genre where the player feels less in control due to limited ammo, healing and overall supplies

The player doesn't feel strong because their supplies are always scarce and the monsters are usually strong

[fluid abyss]

me, swagmaster ammolord: 😎

[sleek tundra]

Stalker is very generous with ammo and medkits compared to 2033

[fluid abyss]

just be good and unless the game is borderline impossible, you'll never run out

[tender torrent]

Stalker has always been kind of survival in a dark apocalyptic spirit ?

[sleek tundra]

Stalker was never a survival/survival horror game

[fluid abyss]

can someone suggest more horror elements in #📜┃s2_suggestions

[sleek tundra]

The games lacked the survival mechanics, adding a hunger system doesn't automatically make anything a survival game

[hearty ridge]

Not sure if this is the place to ask but has anyone had any issues with the butcher crashing your game in anomaly?

[sleek tundra]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[hazy helm]

Im sure youll find better results in the anomaly server,you can find it in the moddb page

[sleek tundra]

Should've recommended old world

[sand condor]

i hate being bored

[sleek tundra]

Commit genocide to remove boredom

[sand condor]

going to suck for the next 2 weeks

[hazy helm]

@hearty ridgeho and play Old World 😉

[sleek tundra]

You're becoming literally me

5 more weeks give or take and you'll only recommend NLC, soon...

[hazy helm]

yea,but I recommend an enjoyable mod so Im you but better

[sand condor]

drought of games are concerning

[sleek tundra]

NLC is enjoyable

[hazy helm]

ask streetcred

[sand condor]

i seriously hope s2 feb atleast?

[sleek tundra]

He left before finishing the first tutorial quest and judged the entire mod, treating it as if it were misery or anomaly

[sand condor]

cause i cannot go on like this

[hazy helm]

hahahaha february of 2024

[sleek tundra]

Streetcred hates all mods just because they aren't vanilla, he straight up admitted that

[sand condor]

this year

[tender torrent]

never hope too soon

[hazy helm]

if you can make him play at least 3 hours and finish the tutorial all the way till you get the vest I'll say the mods good

[hazy helm]

NOOOOPE

[sand condor]

i seriously don't think i get any new games this month

[sleek tundra]

Vasim, he pretty much played the tutorial quest, didn't even finish it then said the mod sucks. This is a skill issue on his part

[tender torrent]

gave the developers time to finalize the game, to continue the texts, to extend the life of the game, to fix the bugs, to test, to improve, again and again, it takes time, we can't imagine

[hazy helm]

the tutorial quest extends untill you get the vest

[sleek tundra]

Vasim, he didn't deliver the artifact to Sid

[sand condor]

i want a tut quest to kill me

[hazy helm]

thats your problem tho,not mine,get to work

[delicate chasm]

I don't blame you...

[sleek tundra]

He hates all mods regardless, I'm not gonna bother with him

[sand condor]

also what work

[sleek tundra]

Making people try NLC

[hazy helm]

cmon guys, spread love

I should really finish this UGUI tutorial

[sand condor]

smh

you call yourself a gamer?

[vernal magnet]

Even GSC realized it wasn't worth it to spend your money on women

[tender torrent]

will there be a list of soundtracks for s2 according to you?

[hazy helm]

bc the truest show of love is beetween men

[delicate chasm]

Like honestly.

[vernal magnet]

hehehe

[delicate chasm]

Vanilla suffers in popularity because anyone who tries to promote it does it by means of toxic comments toward new people in the community

[sand condor]

vasim doesnt play games

[delicate chasm]

instead of showing what it has to offer it's always just "ew you're an idiot for doing x, y, and z before playing vanilla". Unrealistic expectations in 2023

[sand condor]

thats why tut so hard

[hazy helm]

I suffer from a condition known as idiot where I like the OG games too much adn try to find mods like them

[delicate chasm]

people don't want to associate themselves with incels who have nothing better to do than talk shit on the internet

[sand condor]

idiocy syndrome

[vernal magnet]

i mean what is there to show. its vanilla lol. you just pick it up and play before modding the balls of of it

[delicate chasm]

Give them a reason why you love it?

[sand condor]

i hate vanilla

[hazy helm]

I really dont think it's unrealistic to expect someone to play a game series if they want to get into that said game series tbh

[vernal magnet]

I love it because its cohesive and has good pacing

[sand condor]

chocolate is better icecream

[delicate chasm]

Yes it is

[hazy helm]

if youre a person in this server and dont say youre a newbie,I assume you have played the OGs or at least know what and how they are,I think thats just basic info

[hazy helm]

I honestly think you set the bar too low

[delicate chasm]

Mods are SUPER popular and vanilla is super buggy, so people often unfortunately resort to the "fixes" and whatnot, and that's a rabbit hole down the mod community

[vernal magnet]

anomaly mods are a hodge podge of stuff thrown together with no balance that requre ages of tweaking to dial in. which is fun, more options is always fun. but vanilla is how GSC Game World actually, you know, made the game

and not really honestly vanilla runs fine nowadays

i get an xray crash once in a blue moon

[sand condor]

i honestly think s2 will be better balanced

[fluid abyss]

no you don't understand, as an outsider a game's entire premise, gameplay and story must appeal to me, in a very easy to understand good vs bad (good guys always win in the end) format

[vernal magnet]

if anything anomaly randomly CTD's more

[hazy helm]

as a measuring stick as I always say,if you want to get into the series go play the games,try and play them as vanilla as possible and install SRP for clear sky,if you just want to play a mod go play that mod

[sand condor]

i heard stalker runs on phone

[delicate chasm]

crashes are not necessarily the issue, but the bugs are, certain wonky mechanics are... we are just used to it, but for someone picking up the game TODAY it might seem outdated, especially the NPC behaviour

[sand condor]

with the modability of skyrim

and it just works

[hazy helm]

honestly?I'd expect ppl to have built a kind of,tough skin for bugs due to how newer games come out and due to certain games state

[vernal magnet]

the mods that always got the green light no matter what your preference was. was graphics

[delicate chasm]

That's not the discussion here though, we're talking specifically about the approach toward getting people to play vanilla games, and the new people in the community come here, get to deal with this sh1t, see a bunch of no-life neckbeards who just attack them... no fun

[vernal magnet]

the gameplay stuff is where it gets controversial

[delicate chasm]

We have, but not a lot of newbies who are used to more polished titles.

[hazy helm]

I'd call some mods ppl recommend too much,HD models is too much for example,it doesnt fit,but Absolute Textures collection is pretty good

[vernal magnet]

i agree with that. anything that changes the core style is too much

[delicate chasm]

Consider the age of a lot of new people who come here too, a lot of them are born past 2000

[hazy helm]

Im gonna be real?I think better kept together than skyrim somewhat,unless it is clear sky

[vernal magnet]

i put up with autumn aurora 2.1 though..

[sand condor]

who here will hate the moment where controller first appears in s2

[delicate chasm]

That's just whataboutism though, it doesn't serve any purpose to say "oh that other game is also buggy af, what are you gonna say to that"

[glossy ore]

I'll love killing it at least

[hazy helm]

anyone that attacks anyone is just doing that to vent their anger and frustration and isnt actually looking to help anyone of course

[vernal magnet]

im so ready for this game i think im ready to give him a nice big hug

[sand condor]

or heard something run pass you at night

[delicate chasm]

Exactly. And it's not helping to get people into a community they can see themselves in where they can get to appreciate the vanilla games

[hazy helm]

true true,just doing relations to other games that are wildly regarded as very buggy even when modded,and are still played by new peeps,I dont think youre giving enuff rep

[delicate chasm]

It's just sad to see that when the world is such a stressful place, we don't see ourselves as responsible for providing a friendly environment as those who commonly engage in communication here

[delicate chasm]

That's a concern for those in those communities, if they even care.

[hazy helm]

I think going from the get go that ppl have very short fuse and expect too much from a 2007 game is kind of meanspirited?I like to give them the benfit of the doubt and assume every new person is well adjusted and mild tempered

[sand condor]

does stalker scare you

[hazy helm]

sometimes

[vernal magnet]

true the stalker community has always been one of the best and i will stick by that even now.

[glossy ore]

literally every lab

[sand condor]

do bloodsuckers appear out lab

[hazy helm]

too many mod critiques has made vasim a bitter bitter mod
I need to learn russian and play more story mods,that my new years resolution

[sand condor]

assuming s2 have then outside

[delicate chasm]

Yeah but just in the case with that Noni guy, there was a major negative jump on him without even any good-spirited humour and banter about it. It was just toxic.

[sand condor]

i will hate this game

[glossy ore]

I wonder how many returning locations there will be, trailers have shown Garbage and Swamps

[sand condor]

rookie village?

[glossy ore]

Right