⭐┃nospoilers_general

[hazy helm]

Not all artifacts had radiation damage and radiation damage was less significant
That's a change that later games would make that made them infinitely less useful

[blazing fractal]

question for SoC is there a mod which doesnt make you an instant target when you kill a faction member when you arent seen?

[hazy helm]

Why do you want that

you can access the armory of freedom without killing ay freedom members or duty members

[blazing fractal]

ya but if i have an assassination mission and i do it quietly i dont want instant agro

[hazy helm]

Assassination missions usually don't make the entire faction hostile as long as you separate then from the group and only kill them

[blazing fractal]

its annoying that even though they didnt see me do it they instantly know

[hazy helm]

Supposedly

[blazing fractal]

ya there is an indicator to show if anyone sees you

[hazy helm]

I know

[ember moth]

Its called silencers, they are a gun modification

Alternatively, kill your targets with Explosive barrels and if you're determined bait mutants

[dull orchid]

Recently I've been wanting to play stalker but I don't want to play the main games, I want to try some mods just to kill time by doing side quests so I thought anomaly would be good, but it overwhelmed me real quick with the huge map and unnecessary items in the inventory, everything felt too complicated like crafting and other things as well

Are there any mods that's simple as original games and have good quests etc. ?

[hazy helm]

Anomaly might be the worst mod for that,try story mods,they would be more suited for that kind of stuff
OGSR Serega repack is good,VERY fetch quest heavy but seems right up your alley
for story mods try Valley of Whispers,Spatial Anomaly and Winds of Time

[gilded sentinel]

so you dont want to play original games AND freeplay stuf ? Thats rich

[sleek tundra]

Holy mother of god, this MF didn't play the original games or Anomaly. It's like finding a unicorn

[dull orchid]

Yeah I heard that it had "story mode" option so wanted to see what's up with that but nah it was too much for me

[gilded sentinel]

i know right

[dull orchid]

I did play the original games how did you even come up with that

[hazy helm]

no no you dont play Anomaly for story
that story is awful,complete crap,no redeeming qualities,absolute poopo

[gilded sentinel]

honestly dont be a puss in boots and just play orignal games , at least shadow of chernobyl

[sleek tundra]

Not sure how, there is actually a lack of content in Anomaly

[gilded sentinel]

theres mods like soc update if you have problems with graphics

[dull orchid]

got it thanks

guys I did play the original games, it's been 2 years by now

So that's why I'm asking for mods that's like the original games

[sleek tundra]

Not many, the majority are bad the ones that are actually better than the original games aren't like it

[hazy helm]

DO NOT RECOMMEND THE POOR MAN NLC7

[nimble cipher]

Vasim#5301 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[sleek tundra]

Like, I'd say NLC 7 is a better game than stalker in every single way, but it's massively different

[gilded sentinel]

well if you want better graphics soc update , if you want original game but with more quests try solynka 2016 ogsr

[sleek tundra]

He wanted something like the original games, I won't recommend him NLC

[dull orchid]

what's up with oblivion lost, should I try that?

[hazy helm]

ask nozar

[gilded sentinel]

meh , if you want to try obr just go for lost alpha

what excatly do you want ? more quests ?

[hazy helm]

looks like it ahs gunslinger
so
straight into the trash can it goes

[spring abyss]

Yes

[gilded sentinel]

its not

[sleek tundra]

Very different so don't bother

[dull orchid]

not huge as anomaly
simple as the original games
and yeah quests

[spring abyss]

Anomaly fan?

[sleek tundra]

Anomaly isn't huge though

[hazy helm]

then either I got the wrong link or youre wrong
send link

[gilded sentinel]

solynka 2016

[sleek tundra]

No actually, they quit anomaly because they thought it was "too big" somehow

[gilded sentinel]

ur talking about update ?

[hazy helm]

yes

[dull orchid]

dude I feel like suffocating after a hour of playing it

[sleek tundra]

It really isn't big, illusion

[spring abyss]

Whathell is that critic? Lost alpha is even bigger and much more fun

[sleek tundra]

The mod actually has less content than CS, which is objectively the shortest Stalker game from a playtime and content perspective

[gilded sentinel]

dm

[dull orchid]

I mean like the complicated crafting and lots of items etc.

And the map ofc

[hazy helm]

yhea dont even look at SoC Update hahaLMAO

[gilded sentinel]

did you never play video games before 💀 ?

[sleek tundra]

• complicated crafting is not mandatory, in fact it's a terrible system that rewards you nothing
• over 90% of the items are worthless. Not 'optional', worthless. There are 50 healing items but you only need 1 to heal
• The map looks big but it really isn't, illusion

[hazy helm]

all of this to say
Anomaly is bad

[spring abyss]

Did you even played the vanilla games before trying anomaly?

[dull orchid]

bro I want to have fun while doing simple things to kill time that's why I'm looking for 'that kind of' mod to play

I'm not looking to finish a 100 hour long game

[hazy helm]

ok then Spatial Anomaly
Winds of Time
Valley of Whispers
give those a try

[spring abyss]

Anomaly not got a "ending" it's a freeplay game and with freeplay means that you can take 100000hors in the game

[sleek tundra]

For the last goddamn time, Anomaly is extremely short. You can finish it in 10 hours if we're looking at the main story.

[dull orchid]

yes

2 years ago I think

[gilded sentinel]

all 3 ?

[dull orchid]

you're clearly misunderstanding me I'm not trying to finish anything just want to play for some time, do side quests and probably let it go

[spring abyss]

Than you should try history based games

[dull orchid]

yeah

[sand fiber]

Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5 is a mod restoring old 2002-2005 Shadow of Chernobyl concepts, at the time the game was called Stalker Oblivion Lost, hence the name of the mod

Yeah you should try it it's arguably the best mod out there

[spring abyss]

Goldsphere
Solyanka
Dead air
Lost alpha

Maybe not dead air

[gilded sentinel]

play solyanka , sgm , ogsr theres literally dozens of options

[sleek tundra]

"Oblivion Lost Remake is the best stalker mod"
"What? Hell no, NLC 7 is better"

Me VS NozAr

[hazy helm]

Dead Air sucks

[spring abyss]

Don't play nlc 7 is like Anomaly on low

[sleek tundra]

It's not freeplay so automatically wrong

[spring abyss]

Than is very low

😎

[sand fiber]

me when i get to you

[sleek tundra]

Not if I get to you first

[gilded sentinel]

its slightly better than anomaly tho

[hazy helm]

Alright Imma go play NLC7,the faster I finish this the faster I am done with the nightmares

[sleek tundra]

Me about to tell him that the mod is 100+ hours long

[spring abyss]

At least is dead air is based on stalker

[hazy helm]

thats not a compliment neither a tall order lmao

[spring abyss]

Anomaly is just tarkov with bloodsuckers

[sand fiber]

I mean i can't play NLC rn, too busy with Dishonored and Deus Ex a-a-and trying to not kill myself real life with medication

[hazy helm]

stoc going into a anomaly rant after a random harmless mod question is asked

[hazy helm]

I'd try and stream so you can see its not for you haha

[sleek tundra]

Which Deus Ex?

[sand fiber]

2000

And then Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, don't wanna be bothered with Invisible Wars tbh

[sleek tundra]

If NozAr likes hardcore survival/survival horror cRPGs with immersive sim elements she's most likely going to like NLC 7 or at least find it interesting

[sand fiber]

stalker crpg is like Stalker Online

[spring abyss]

Stalcraft >>>>

[sleek tundra]

NLC 7 is a stalker game, not really meant for most stalker players

[hazy helm]

please stop

[spring abyss]

Than it's not a stalker game

[sleek tundra]

Automatically makes it better

[sand fiber]

i mean that official unreleased gsc game

[spring abyss]

[sand fiber]

browser mmorpg

[gilded sentinel]

theres no stalker in nlc 7

unlike "stalker anomaly"

[dull orchid]

I'm even more confused than at the start I'm going to go play CoP or play misery and torture myself or something idk shouldn't have even asked anything

[spring abyss]

Eww misery

[sand fiber]

stoc experience

[gilded sentinel]

bruh youve been given over a dozen options , figure it out

[sand fiber]

@sleek tundra so have you played Invisible Wars?

[spring abyss]

Misery is like real life but 100% more boring

[sleek tundra]

No

[sand fiber]

Great

[sleek tundra]

But I've played the other games, invisible war is apparently not worth it ('not a bad game but not a deus ex' as they say)

[dull orchid]

looks like I'm going to go look into all of them now to figure out which one to play

[gilded sentinel]

gl hf

[sleek tundra]

NLC 7

NLC 7

[spring abyss]

When i was 18 i just download a lot of stalker standalone games on my 500gb pc, the only one that i finished was lost alpha with no addons

[gilded sentinel]

7 CLN

[spring abyss]

No

[sleek tundra]

Yes

[spring abyss]

No

[gilded sentinel]

honestly just go for latest solyanka

[sleek tundra]

No

[dull orchid]

that's probably the one I'm going to try as I feel it's the closest experience to the originals, I think idk

[gilded sentinel]

No

[sleek tundra]

It really isn't, too different, too hard, too gay

[dull orchid]

the last one took me in

[spring abyss]

Lost alpha gives you a completely different vibe from the ogs, but it's very close

[hazy helm]

@sleek tundra so Imma go talk to petrukha and then go to the sanitorium looking for that cup of tea for vergas

[spring abyss]

I think the lost alpha map size is almost big as the real life area of chernobyl

[sleek tundra]

Don't, no one has ever found it

[gilded sentinel]

if you get the biggest cup of all , feel free to kill yourself since its bugged

[hazy helm]

[spring abyss]

That sh!t is just too big

[sleek tundra]

Not evne bugged, he just won't find it

[dull orchid]

Might as well just do a replay of the originals before the new game and don't even bother with mods at at all

That seems easier I think

[gilded sentinel]

yes

[spring abyss]

That's good too

Try some mods like alsernal overhaul and absolutely nature

[dull orchid]

Anyways thanks for the suggestions I'll take a look at them

[spring abyss]

Those are actually addons for the og games

[dull orchid]

Oh yeah probably I'll try them and the bug fixes too if they fix the faction war in cs

that was a mess playing vanilla

[spring abyss]

You can fix faction wars with a single mod

Infinite respawn fix, make all the faction spawn take more time

[sleek tundra]

There's a reason why no one bothers with mods, they change stuff because vanilla sucks

[dull orchid]

the bandits spawned all the time in the depot and it just didn't end holy shit I still have ptsd

[spring abyss]

The mod fixed it but some spawns will still got infinite spawn, but this one's are not annoying

[dull orchid]

well soc and cop was at least not as buggy as cs

[sleek tundra]

I meant gameplay wise

[dull orchid]

grenades

grenades in cs

[spring abyss]

Cs gameplay is full of scripted deaths and cod moments

The only thing really good is the faction wars and still is bugged as well

[spring abyss]

Aimbot grenades, shots clipping through unbreakable boxs

The mod "Complete" just make those things even worse so avoit it

[dull orchid]

probably because of anomalies smh

[spring abyss]

[finite dragon]

Anomalies are everywhere but they are good

Za monolith

[limpid salmon]

H7 bulb?

[supple bay]

I cant find the mission marker on the map

[spring abyss]

In soc some quests got their marker bugged out

[supple bay]

Sidorovitch told me to kill a rookie stalker and im looking all over the map and its not telling me where he is

Do you know a fix?

[spring abyss]

It's a side quest you don't need to make it

[finite dragon]

name of mission?

[supple bay]

Its one of his side missions its the one where you kill a rookie stalker who is pretending to be a rookie but hes actually experienced

[spring abyss]

Some side quests in soc are randomly generated so they usually bugged out

[blazing fractal]

I did use silencers

[supple bay]

So I just dont know where he is and theres no fix? I was hoping to get paid

[finite dragon]

no the mission has a name when you look at your pda

[supple bay]

Theres no name it just says kill a rookie stalker

[spring abyss]

Maybe he is out your currently map

Look the full map

[supple bay]

I havent been to garbage yet will it not show his location if he is there and I havent been there?

[spring abyss]

Not, it will show

[finite dragon]

The player must eliminate specific Rookie Loner stalker picked by Sidorovich. The target's coordinates are always designated on the map. Sidorovich tends to pick stalkers located in Cordon, Garbage, Bar and Agroprom areas.

[spring abyss]

You can see all the maps of zone in your pda

[supple bay]

Yeah I saw that problem is I have no idea where he is because there is no marker

[finite dragon]

go to the fat man and tell him that you couldn't complete the job and if that isn't an option then I would

1. Load a previous save where I hhad not accsepted the mission yet.
2. Never do the mission.
3. Kill every rookie.

Do what you like.

[supple bay]

Is telling him you wont do it better than letting time run out?

[spring abyss]

In both ways you will lost reputation

[supple bay]

Bruh so I am just sentenced to lose rep even though this job is impossible

[spring abyss]

Look the other maps, the mark can be there

[finite dragon]

Also nice plan.

[supple bay]

What plan?

[finite dragon]

Load previous save

[supple bay]

Ok I did it

Ok I took it again and it worked this time theres a marker now

[finite dragon]

nice glad the friendly monolith could help you ^^

[carmine heron]

I just started playing stalcraft

I have 78 minutes played

[steep bone]

SOC better in master difficulty right ?

First time player btw

[supple bay]

I picked veteran and tbh its not too hard if you savescum like me. Pick master if you want a little more of a challenge. Game is (at least so far) easier than Dark souls 1 on Veteran

[spring abyss]

Yep

[supple bay]

Im at garbage now and im thinking of turning the difficulty up to Master since I got an AK

[spring abyss]

Dark souls 1 is hard? I didn't know that

[spring abyss]

Ak is trash get a toz

[supple bay]

Yeah its harder than veteran imo but not super hard still. Honestly DS1's bosses are easier than the normal enemies

[spring abyss]

👍

[supple bay]

Ill probably turn it up to master

Combat in t his game has been pretty easy so far

[spring abyss]

But for a blind playthought i recommend stalker difficult, play only on master if you got high experience on fps games. The game can be really tough in the monolith firefights for first time players

[supple bay]

Veteran is easy though

And you can always turn it down when you fight monolith right?

[spring abyss]

For now you're just fighting gopniks and mutants

[supple bay]

I dont fight mutants I run away from them

[spring abyss]

The difficult level will go up with the military battles

[supple bay]

Its probably easy because I savescum and reload when I take 1 point of damage

[spring abyss]

[supple bay]

Only time I felt like I got really owned was when gopnik ran around the corner and oneshot me with a double barrel

[steep bone]

do you guys play with headbobbing ? it seems insanely high

[supple bay]

I never even noticed it lol

[steep bone]

damn

[supple bay]

Just a lil pro tip just make sure to save before you go near anything that looks cool or before you go in a building

[supple bay]

Also make sure to save before you take an objective because it could bug and not completing the objective will lose you trader rep

[spring abyss]

I like the way its is

[worthy lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

wait

i have a better gif

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[steep bone]

Ok thanks for the tip. Cant wait to face strong enemies. Even that damn pig is so strong 😂

[supple bay]

Its actually really weird. Sometimes you instantly kill them and sometimes they tank all your shots simply because the starting gun has terrible accuracy

[finite dragon]

Yes it is alright.

https://twitter.com/PKPatchworks/status/1612527340642263079?t=-Ky4guGvC3PShKXuiFG89A&s=19

[limpid salmon]

finally got a Seva suit in cs

for 18k, i joined the free stalkers

[hazy helm]

AN MG42?HAHAHHAHAHHA

[nimble cipher]

Vasim#5301 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[hazy helm]

this is a very funny joke,great parody,10/10 comedy

[finite dragon]

Italy sent a bunch of MG42/49s to Ukraine

[sand condor]

i hope ukraine wins

[finite dragon]

7.62 NATO Buzzsaws

[sand condor]

anyone know there's modern weapons in this game

[hazy helm]

and they think it suits smth liek stalker?how funny,pinnacle of comedy itself
"hoooooooo we have budget to use real guns but we'll use stupid idiotic guns that wouldnt be used bc they look cool"

[finite dragon]

Ahhhh yes.

Hitlers Buzzsaw.

[hazy helm]

GET MY MAN A PKM

[nimble cipher]

Vasim#5301 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[finite dragon]

They're literally being used in Ukraine

[hazy helm]

he longs for the russian """"""tech""""""

[finite dragon]

RPD > PKM

[hazy helm]

WW2 weapons have no place in stalker even if they are still being used by militias in countries to this day
i dont care if theyre being used IRL
Stalker,isnt IRL

[finite dragon]

You are wrong.

It's an MG42/49 not an MG42

[spring abyss]

Oh no gunsmith dudes here

[hazy helm]

literally the biggest "hum actually" Ive seen,it doesnt matter

[spring abyss]

[finite dragon]

Same guy wouldn't bat an eye at a mosin or ppsh in stalker

[hazy helm]

I would cry and piss my pants

there is a reason no bolt action actually made it into the OG games

[finite dragon]

G36? Yeah that's cool. But something that actually would be way more common? Naw

[hazy helm]

and tbh,why would you use those guns?are you dumb?there are AKs for days!

[finite dragon]

Because 7.62x39 is garbage

[hazy helm]

you assume a MG42 would be common,how interesting

[hazy helm]

no ak in stalker uses 7.62 they use 5.45 and besides,its not real,it doesnt matter

[finite dragon]

MG42/49s yeah. They're common

[limpid salmon]

after I kill a few bandits in their base in CS in the garbage, it doesn't let me use my guns, and it sends a message as in the bandits won, any ideas whats wrong?

[hazy helm]

the alternatives are better and would overflow the zone considering their points of access,there is no sensible reason for them being in the zone aside from larpers liking the MG42

[supple bay]

warned for capital letters wtf kind of server is this

[hazy helm]

one that warns me

[finite dragon]

A easy quick change barrel MG that uses 7.62x51 NATO isn't sensible? Weird take. They're still produced for a reason. Armies buy them

[supple bay]

The problem with the MG42 is that it chews through ammo extremely quickly. I imagine in a lawless wasteland where you have to scavenge to survive that'd be an issue

[hazy helm]

cant wait for the new stalker to use MP40s and StG44

[finite dragon]

You guys keep saying MG42 when the 49 isn't the same gun

It's an MG3 internally

[supple bay]

its basically the same thing be real. Its like when you get mad at someone for calling an AK-74 reproduction an AK-74 instead of the full copyright dodging name

[finite dragon]

It's not. The MG3 fire rate is slower

[supple bay]

• generally who tf wants to carry around an LMG in the zone? bring an assault rifle

[finite dragon]

Intermediate cartridge against mutants sounds brain dead. Full power rifle cartridge all day

People don't even hunt hogs with 5.56

[hazy helm]

Stalker didnt feature old guns bc thru the ladder of progression they wanted you to find better and harder to find guns,guns taht would realistically be harder to get even in the zone to make them stand out
I have to concede that,a MG42 is a hard to find thing but in the zone?would run counter to the decision to keep guns to high tech later options thru the ladder of progression
(they were high tech when the game was supposed to come out,in 2007?not really as high tech anymore)

[supple bay]

use an AKM

[finite dragon]

Can't penetrate body armor

[hazy helm]

in Stalker?you can kill them with PMMs

[finite dragon]

7.62x39 can't pen plates

Full power cartridge all day

[hazy helm]

there doesnt exist 7.62x39 in the games anyway

[supple bay]

that makes no sense

[hazy helm]

sorry?why is that?

[supple bay]

bandits can afford an MP5 but one of the most produced guns in the world cant make its way to the zone??

[hazy helm]

in the zone the most used AK is the 5.45 variant,there already is that,why would you want yet another variant to bloat the gun pool?it would be useless,it wouldnt make the game better for having it

[supple bay]

Im talking from a realism PoV. Of course the AKM would be common in the zone but lore wise it should exist in the game

[finite dragon]

I could only see it if they actually made the mechanics more detailed to match the ups and downs of each cartridge but that's not a realistic request

[sand condor]

does anyone know if ak12 in this game

[finite dragon]

I hope not. It'll crack and fall apart

[hazy helm]

well there you have,stop taking realism too far my friend,stalker is quite the silly game

they added too many AKs anyway in SOC and CS,there is absolutely no reason for the Abakan to be there,it doesnt work into the progression and the game wouldnt suffer from its removal,which it should

[sand condor]

i could see bandits have poor weapons durability and possibly old weapons

[finite dragon]

I mean you're giving this fan film shit for being unrealistic when it's not really kek

[hazy helm]

Im giving it a hard time for not sticking to the aesthetic of stalker

[sand condor]

could have tompson or bar or even mp5

[hazy helm]

thats even worse,an MG44/49 whatever that guy said,ok,it has internals of MG3,maybe,some bandit put it in his base as a show of wealth,that would be cool,but a thompson?youre kididng

[sand condor]

i cqn see bandit take anything they can get their hands

[hazy helm]

HOW would a bandit get their hands on a THOMPSON or a BAR?they raided an american museum before going into the zone?

and why would they use legacy equipment when post soviet equipment overflows into the zone naturally?

[steep bone]

how do i equip items like nades or bandages ?

[sand condor]

look am grasping at anyone

[glossy ore]

Lend-Lease for WW2

Still a rare find but it's one explanation

[sand condor]

cheap easy to repair

[glossy ore]

dunno about BAR but they did provide Thompsons

[hazy helm]

grenades are selected using 4 on your keboard,and bandages are used by using the keybind in your keyboard or selecting them in your inventory check your keybinds in the options meny

[sand condor]

certainly grenades are m63

[hazy helm]

thats a VERY big leap of logic to justify WW2 guns simply bc you like the look of said guns,even tho they would be detrimental to the already aesthetic of the game and game progression

[sand condor]

or maybe a various grenades

depending if its a launcher or attachment based

[hazy helm]

legacy weapons would be harder to repair tbh,harder to find parts for,harder to get ppl who know how they work

[sand condor]

i wonder if there's multiple grenades like smoke

[sand condor]

or what about cold war era weapons

[hazy helm]

post soviet era weapons like the AK!or the PMM!

[sand condor]

like mp5 or 74

[hazy helm]

which is what stalker uses !yes!

[sand condor]

does the iconic ak 47 included in stalker

[carmine crest]

if they'd have any ww2 guns it'd be russian weapons

[sand condor]

i wonder if theres rail restrictions based on the weapon

[hazy helm]

no,its the AK74,they even have a AKS74,which tbh,I would be mad at if it wasnt worked into the ladder of progression from MP5 to AKs

[carmine crest]

if anyone would have american ww2 guns it'd be mercs lol

[hazy helm]

thats even MORE dumb hahaha

[sand condor]

certainly military uses ak12

or kriss vector

[amber tendon]

mercenaries are highly trained and paid fighters

why would they have outdated equipment

[carmine crest]

It's the only way it'd make sense, foreigners who come to the zone probably bring foreign exports & weapons with them. doesn't matter how highly trained you are, some high ranking generals brought really stupid weapons to war like swords or bows

[glossy ore]

AK12 is a Russian gun, Military is Ukrainian

[sand condor]

is mercs confirmed

[glossy ore]

Russia never exported AK12 to my knowledge

[hazy helm]

if you really want to know what guns S2 has https://youtube.com/watch?v=fdJgHlTUYek&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=131

[amber tendon]

They are stalkers and aren't law abiding citizens

[glossy ore]

There was the Ukrainian Malyuk in the trailer iirc

[hazy helm]

I dont know why they wouldnt appear

[steep bone]

this game hard af

[amber tendon]

why would they even follow gun regulations

[carmine crest]

I dunno where I implied that

[hazy helm]

stalker is pretty easy,I dont think its hard just bc it tells you to select a grenade before using it

[sand condor]

can zombies reload

[carmine crest]

I'm saying a thompson would be a smart gun to bring seeing how .45 acp is in abundance in the zone

[glossy ore]

I mean technically the 1911 is outdated yet special forces types love it

[supple bay]

IM on veteran difficulty and its pretty easy simply cuz u can save scum

[sand condor]

reliable and proven

even if it's full of dirt will it work

[glossy ore]

maybe outdated is the wrong word, it's just very old

[supple bay]

I dont think the issue here is ammo, moreso thompsons are rare and expensive and probably not a lot of them are made in eastern europe

[carmine crest]

lots of replicas are made to this day. originals are almost never used outside of museums

[steep bone]

is there stealth ? cuz i cant seem to sneak around people

[hazy helm]

I just think it very very not fitting for the monolith to be using a gun that so resembles a MG44 and cant shake the feeling it was simply used bc the Larpers like the MG44 and wanted to use it,when the most sensible option would be a RPK or RPD

either that or they didnt have those and decided to use what they ahd in hand,

[supple bay]

there is stealth you just need to pay attention to your noise meter and dont stay in line of sight too long. Enemies in this game will actually, you know, look in multiple directions for enemies so dont just bank on them never turning their head

[finite dragon]

[sand condor]

what weapon is that at 3:30

looks like a carbine based m4

[carmine crest]

I think it'd be neat to see some OICW platforms in the zone

[hazy helm]

you mean at 4:00?bc at 3:30 its the MP5,that is a made up gun

[spring abyss]

Stealth? You got be kidding me

[sand condor]

highly modified ?

thinking about it mp5

[supple bay]

by stealth I mean going the long way around so you can sneak up on someone and pop them in the head point blank with a shotty

[spring abyss]

That's is not stealth, the stalker ai is blind af

[carmine crest]

@sand condor if you mean the sniper it looks like an m40a3

[finite dragon]

@rough aurora

[hazy helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB87nZ2Wldg
and if you look at this one as well,most of the weaponry is modern

[supple bay]

its stealth

[hazy helm]

??

[sand condor]

is the weapon at 4 g36c

[hazy helm]

its not a stealth system,its just the enemies detection AI at work

[supple bay]

thats called stealth

[sand condor]

or am i misremembering

[steep bone]

like do they forget i am there if i hide for a bit orr ?

[glossy ore]

nah

[supple bay]

no they dont forget, if you saw a man with a shotgun sneaking around your camp would you forget in 2 minutes?

[carmine crest]

xm29

[steep bone]

i was just asking lmao

[sand condor]

great looking weapon

[finite dragon]

This is between us big guy

[steep bone]

this is not real life bro its a game

[supple bay]

I actually like stealth in stalker because it has no stealth system which means you actually have to try really hard to be sneaky

[carmine crest]

well, looks like a modified xm29 actually. the whole grenade launcher magazine in the back is gone and replaced with a stock, so idk what the second barrel is for

[spring abyss]

No they are literally blind

[sand condor]

would anyone frequently change their weapons based on situations

[carmine crest]

I think it's one of those bolt-action fed GL's some OICW platform guns had

[hazy helm]

being fair you cant say that is a Stealth system,to be one it'd have to be different and more polshed and refined,and less "guy spots stealth over"

[spring abyss]

I do, some weapons are terrible for longe range, but great for close range suppression

[hazy helm]

I also love you little guy,dont you worry

[supple bay]

To be honest, "guy spots stealth over" is exactly how itd be in real life

[spring abyss]

But the g36 and fn2000 are great for both

[hazy helm]

aaaaa I guess we are lucky stalker is a game huh!?

[glossy ore]

generally my rule of thumb since SoC is that buckshot is better for most mutants, and I favor the Vintar BC against humans

[spring abyss]

Kkkkkkkk

[sand condor]

smg are terrible weapon of choice for ranged combat or mutants like the giants#

[hazy helm]

12ga is always better for close range and mutants,human enemies are usualy fought at ranger farther so youd use something more accurate

[supple bay]

more games should be like real life

[spring abyss]

If you kill a dude in stalker anyone know exactly your location even if they don't know where the dead guy is

[supple bay]

gunshots be like that

[spring abyss]

Silencer ???

[steep bone]

they just know where my ass is

[supple bay]

suppressors dont make your gun silent its still very loud

[hazy helm]

your ideas are crap,not all games need to be like real life and shackling them to how well they immitate it is frankly insulting to how creative games can be
if stalker was to be like real life it wouldnt be stalker

[spring abyss]

Knife?
Ranged atack ?

[sand condor]

i hope the weapons are highly modifiable

[supple bay]

fun fact: you are insufferable

[spring abyss]

Do you even play stalker apart from soc?

[sand condor]

particularly cold war era weapons

[glossy ore]

there seemed to be some weird gauss shit in one of the trailers and I'm all in for seeing that work

[hazy helm]

says the guy that literally equates a games system to "how realistic is it" which is one of the funnier things I read while here?refreshing than the other takes that are always played out

[supple bay]

a game can be realistic and good lol

[sand condor]

there's even seem to be standard mag taped for quick next reload

[spring abyss]

Not in games, and also what are the point of use them in game if not to do silence kills? Bc silencer in stalker cut both accuracy and damage by half of your weapon

[hazy helm]

mmyes,and making it realistic doesnt always mean making it good,making it unrealistic doesnt always mean bad nor good

[supple bay]

all I want is for the game to make sense bro

[sand condor]

fairly realistic is best

[hazy helm]

silencers dont really have a place in current games since there pratically is no "stealth"

[supple bay]

the answer is there is no reason to use a silencer

[rough aurora]

Bruh

[spring abyss]

Yeah i don't even know why they didn't cut that

[hazy helm]

a game making sense is not a game being realistic,do not confuse both things

[supple bay]

real life makes sense

[sand condor]

anyone impressed by the jamming

[hazy helm]

adn you assume a game thats not realistic cant be making sense?

[spring abyss]

Oh whe got a genius here boys 👏

[limpid salmon]

makes sense

[carmine crest]

yeah STALKER was not even really built for stealth, it just doesn't work well

[spring abyss]

Is completely broken

[supple bay]

never said that

[carmine crest]

It'd be cool if it was fleshed out more & actually worked reliably but if you so much as load a save or move in the wrong way, it's all for nothing

[finite dragon]

I don't have nitro

[sand condor]

hopefully stalker 2 has stealth implemented

[supple bay]

POV: you are upset that a noob owned you

[spring abyss]

Average souls player be like:

[sand condor]

grenade launchers are confirmed

[spring abyss]

The only thing that always work

[limpid salmon]

i solved a puzzle but it makes no sense

[sand condor]

with flash light attachment

[hazy helm]

well you certainly imply it,anyway,it's a stealth system BC most of the times stealth systems are worked to be more refined,take Metal Gear Solid for example,that is a seatlh game and has stealth system,Stalker doesnt really,it has enemy AI,and nothing other than that,the game was supposed to have stealth in earlier iterations actually,spot the bandit base in SoC,and the entryways that could be done,but that idea was quickly scrapped

[finite dragon]

Grenade launcher? I just met her

[spring abyss]

What puzzle bro?

[limpid salmon]

look in valley

[sand condor]

what's the difference between frag grenades and the ammo for launchers

[hazy helm]

I dont know why undersling grenade launcher wouldnt,they have been in the game since the start and I dont see any reason why they shouldnt

[supple bay]

I like an unpolished stealth system because it feels more refined and realistic even though it has less work put into it

[finite dragon]

One spinee

[spring abyss]

Oh i see, it's a morse code you will get some random numbers and letters when you solve it

[limpid salmon]

what do I do with that?

[spring abyss]

I dunno either, dm me

[hazy helm]

haaaaa a user of the "I want games made by less ppl with less money that take more time and Im not kidding" logic?based
still,I cant say its a stealth it would be lying basically
I'd either have to tell them all I told you,which is too much for someone asking a simple question,or say no

[hazy helm]

you dont need to holster the weapon to use the launcher

[supple bay]

bro I literally just said its better when they put in less work did you even read what I said

[hazy helm]

waht I said

[supple bay]

???

[sand condor]

stealth is more viable like for a small patrol squad or a campsite

[hazy helm]

I literally said made by less ppl that put less work

[supple bay]

no you didnt

[sand condor]

i want games to be well designed

[hazy helm]

didn't you ever see that meme?forget it it's redundant

[spring abyss]

Just run, trust me

[sand condor]

certainly mods are much in the moment

rather work as sn upgrade tree

[limpid salmon]

also whats up with the invicible bloodsucker outside the freedom base in CS? it ate atleast 2-3 grenades but still lives, also maybe like 200 rounds

[spring abyss]

Wow i never saw this one

[sand condor]

wanna have more dakka you can do that less dakka you also can do that want nv scope yup possible

[hazy helm]

Only invencível bloodsucker in CS is the cinematic one in Duty territory

[spring abyss]

Probably a bug

[fiery heron]

I thought stealth worked for stuff like Fixers

[hazy helm]

???

[limpid salmon]

he appears after the mission where u get the lost blueprints for the freedom tech, there were 2 but only 1 remained

[spring abyss]

Ohhhhh

[fiery heron]

modified combat rifles

[limpid salmon]

he disappeared after you have to kill the bandits

[hazy helm]

??????

[fiery heron]

i gotta stop playing fallout 76

[spring abyss]

I know this one, they killed the freedom dude that got the pda

[limpid salmon]

yes

[sand condor]

blood suckers will fear me with saiga 12

[hazy helm]

I...???

[spring abyss]

Don't worry about him i think they are linked to the quest and probably bugged out

[limpid salmon]

ok

honestly saiga 12 would be nice, basically an AK based shotgun

[sand condor]

would anyone think there's multiple ammo types for atleast shotguns

[spring abyss]

Nothing will stop me and my trusty toz

[hazy helm]

I wouldnt mind a Saiga 12 being a contrast to the Protecta,a faster firing shotgun thats easier to reload but harder to handle the recoil and less accurate

[limpid salmon]

there are

[hazy helm]

there are

[sand condor]

how many ammo types

[limpid salmon]

whats a toz i keep seeing people say it but idk what it is

[hazy helm]

3 types per ammo,normal type,one easier to penetrate flesh and another easier to penetrate armour

[limpid salmon]

normal, buckshot and like projectile whatever

[worthy lagoon]

Slugs, buckshots, AP ball

[sand condor]

i can think of many small pellets or more for long distances

[hazy helm]

for 12ga theres normal,Armour Piercing and slugs which are more accurate

[limpid salmon]

small pellets are not for long distances

[spring abyss]

The double shotgun from the gopniks

[hazy helm]

but yhe getting into the original point,there is no reason and no way WW2 weapons would make it into the zone,it clashes with it's aesthetics and feel of it

[limpid salmon]

ah so the sawn off double barrel

[sand condor]

wonder if theres .50 ae ammo types

[limpid salmon]

nope

7.62x39 is the biggest

[hazy helm]

nope,not really,the gun is already powerful by itself,but shackled bc its a pistol

[limpid salmon]

or was it the 9mm in the sniper?

[hazy helm]

there isnt 39 btw,its 54,full caliber

I turned into a spaceman ghaaaa

[limpid salmon]

never really paid attention to it

[hazy helm]

based

[sand condor]

anyone know the weapon where the bloodsucker is and the weapon is jammed

[limpid salmon]

btw pubg gets the VSS wrong by letting players use the same 9mm as the pistols

[sand condor]

maybe because balancing

[hazy helm]

what matters most is does it matter for gameplay?if not then who cares,if yes then change it

[sand condor]

warzone have more generalizd ammo mo more typically your dead body

[limpid salmon]

also putting silencers on the ak isn't realistic since it would need subsonic ammunition

[sand condor]

ar and lmgs share the same ammo

[hazy helm]

like I asid and keep saying good thing this is a game,requiring such things would ruin the gameplay and progression,would be quite dumb

[worthy lagoon]

First of all, which ak

[limpid salmon]

since all AKs in stalker use the same ammo

[sand condor]

semi realistic weapon system is fun

[supple bay]

it wouldnt ruin anything lol

[hazy helm]

if the game isnt echanced by that realism and its only hurt by it then whats the point in having it at all

[supple bay]

How is requiring subsonic hurting the game?

[sand condor]

while also accounting weapons balances and the mechanics

[limpid salmon]

they could add subsonic 5.45 so you can efficiently use it in stealth operations, the downsides would be weaker ammunition

[hazy helm]

it wouldbloat the loot pool and would prove a redundant mchanic,nobody would use it and you would ask why it was implemented in the first place,in which case its a bad additiona dn should be taken out

[sand condor]

heavier damage tends to have slow rof and heavier recoils

[limpid salmon]

there's already AP ammo that no one really uses

[hazy helm]

AP ammo is used,its very important actually,it helps you take down human enemies

[sand condor]

suppressors are useful not to draw more attention

[hazy helm]

supressors are a redundant addition to stalker as they as in their form and shouldnt really be in the game,they prove nothing but a detriment

[sand condor]

how so

[hazy helm]

as I have stated,stalker doesnt have a stealth system,and thus,silencers dont really help it,puttin a silencer wont actually make you less noticeble itll simply lower damage and accuracy

the enemies will hear you all the same,and they will find you just as easely

[worthy lagoon]

But irl you can mount silencers

[spring abyss]

I use and i dunno what their propose all i know is that o must kill

[spring abyss]

Average demolition ranch fan:

[finite dragon]

people don't use ap ammo?

[sand condor]

i could see it useful for hunting for a particular mutant

[spring abyss]

[hazy helm]

literally doesnt matterAI will hear and see you all the same

[sand condor]

is a big threat

if that target dead theres lesser problems

[worthy lagoon]

STALKER has a stealth system, but it sucks

Or well to say

Enemies are not that dumb to have a FOV of 3 meters

[hazy helm]

then the silencer would hinder your objective since it has no upsides and actively lowers damage and accuracy

[hazy helm]

as I have said its too rudimentar to call it a stealth system,it simply is the Enemies AI processing sounds and vision nothing more nothing less

[worthy lagoon]

I think S2 will have enhanced stealth mechanics, the game has silencers

[finite dragon]

s2 better have functioning stealth

[hazy helm]

a Stealth system even in older games always was more lenient than that,more refined and actually existant,bc its a system,take for example thief,thief has a stealth system,stalker doesnt

[sand condor]

would you actually travel one place to another

[worthy lagoon]

Tbh i want a better stealth system in S2 but not something that is dependent on it

Like on Metro

[sand condor]

like garbage to the ship thing

[hazy helm]

in S2?we dont know if it is like COP or SOC,I hope its more like SoC

[worthy lagoon]

In SoC you can steal the Agroprom docs in stealth

[sand condor]

ii think its like anomaly but expended

[glossy ore]

I must've stealthed it by making sure none were left alive

[worthy lagoon]

Anomaly has no improved stealth system

Just a disguise

[sand condor]

theres new locations such as poppy field

[hazy helm]

not gonna comment,a serious ammount of poo was already thrown and this orangutan is tired

[worthy lagoon]

@hazy helm i meant i don't want something that reliant on stealth like on Metro

[sand condor]

what are you talking about

[worthy lagoon]

Unless for very specific tasks

Or something kike that

[sand condor]

am talking about the map size

[hazy helm]

I pinged you by mistake,dont worry about that

[worthy lagoon]

Okay and

Still not as good as LA

OL

And Goldsphere

[hazy helm]

mentioning OL or LA in the caht
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FfecPQG_YVs&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

[sand condor]

seriously why do i bother being here

[worthy lagoon]

Anomaly are not the only mapmakers

Like, i have seen way better maps

[hazy helm]

anomaly didnt really make any maps kuro what are you talking about????

[sand condor]

anomaly map is literally the 3 game's world in one mod

[worthy lagoon]

*CoC

[sand condor]

and gsc made then

[glossy ore]

also cut maps

[hazy helm]

the CoC map is the 3 games in one,Anomaly would add maps that werent there to begin with and other maps made by the community like meadow

[worthy lagoon]

Again, Anomaly did not made that, CoC did

[hazy helm]

most of these maps were cut for a reason,and meadow sucks
I actually like a substantial ammount of the cut maps tho,I think they actually play rather well if not a bit too barren and devoid of life

[sand condor]

anomaly isn't what you think it is

[worthy lagoon]

I can't wait Anomaly to add all LA and OL maps

[sand condor]

anomaly is a mod

[hazy helm]

chad OP2.2 having Sillent Hill and the metro Bunker

[worthy lagoon]

We know that

[sand condor]

doesn't look like it to me

[hazy helm]

we know,it was you who brought it up,and I really dont know about the size,they boast about 64 square kms thus youd be lead to believe its a continuous map without laoding screens,something they wanted to do in SoC and CS but couldnt

[glossy ore]

it's a mod of a mod more specifically

[worthy lagoon]

You should try Lost Alpha, then you'll see the real effort of modders making an actual good map and not copy and pasting @sand condor

Darkscape is from LA too

They didn't even fixed the NAV

[sand condor]

the only loading screens i see is when you die load older save or fast travel

[hazy helm]

I mean,logically,yes

[sand condor]

there could be certain unforeseen loading screen?

[spring abyss]

Man lost alpha is so broken that is good

[worthy lagoon]

Their maps are amazing though

And huge

[hazy helm]

only if youre going into laboratories or the insides of caves and such,and even then,maybe not considering cell loading

[worthy lagoon]

Look at Yantar for example

[spring abyss]

Yeah, darkescape is even bigger than the coc version

[sturdy zodiac]

LA Garbage my beloved

[worthy lagoon]

Yep

[sand condor]

amazing how technological advanced ue can be

[steep bone]

why bullets dont go where i aim ?

[worthy lagoon]

I'd say Goldsphere Garbage my beloved

[spring abyss]

Zone magic air

[steep bone]

?

[dry imp]

im anomaly

[sturdy zodiac]

I've yet to play, will at some point

[steep bone]

i need to cross the bridge but dont wanna pay 500. so i am trying to kill the guys but bullets dont go where iron sights are

[sand condor]

anyone like the loot ui

[hazy helm]

thats called accuracy and it depends on the guns stats
depending on the games you can upgrade guns

[steep bone]

soc

[glossy ore]

if you're playing Shadow of Chernobyl that doesn't have repair at all

[spring abyss]

500 is very cheap, also you can find alternative ways to cross the bridge

[hazy helm]

I honestly like the older games UI but that might just be nostalgia,Im willing to try it before deciding

[hazy helm]

then its totally dependant on which gun youre using,later guns are more accurate due to the ladder of progression

[sand condor]

kinda not like the floating box that says cloud

[hazy helm]

you cant upgrade in SOC and there are no repair

[glossy ore]

I think it's simple enough, though we haven't seen the inventory itself which I imagine might offer more info

[spring abyss]

The beginning mp5 is great

[worthy lagoon]

May God bless you

[spring abyss]

They show the inventory in the trailer

[steep bone]

yeah i think i am gonna go buy it from the trader

[sand condor]

i feel like theres not really a tree in stalker 2

[glossy ore]

it's a looting screen

[sand condor]

kinda like cod

[hazy helm]

that was already in Stalker before,if you hold f youll see all the names of items on the floor floating above the items themselves
and when you mouse over youll see a use f
its to be expected

[worthy lagoon]

You will hate yourself for such choice

[glossy ore]

I didn't see anything regarding your suit or stats

[sand condor]

certain weapons performed worse in one start

[rough aurora]

Rip

[sturdy zodiac]

lmao, I will try to be patient

[hazy helm]

ask someone to be your sugar daddy ez

[sand condor]

or high rof high recoil

[worthy lagoon]

Believe me, that map is harder than any other map

[spring abyss]

Ahhh one furry

Help me i saw furry, shot shooot

[sand condor]

time for me to get of now

[hazy helm]

have a good day my man

[sand condor]

since i saw that comment

[spring abyss]

[solid dome]

Good luck tryina make me open #🤨┃stalker_memes @worthy lagoon

[hazy helm]

based krezzin

[spring abyss]

The count has back? No count

[solid dome]

Yus!

[supple bay]

Who tf told me stalker AI was dumb? bandits just did an organized push + distract and flank strat

[spring abyss]

You got radiation sickness

[supple bay]

Ofc it happened by coincidence but it was a brutal move and I loved it

[hazy helm]

stalker AI is both dumb and smart,they will play chess with me on minute and the other they will try opening a can with their teeth
best kind of AI

[spring abyss]

The ai is composed of previously waypoints marked on the ground for some scripted events

[supple bay]

So its like hl2 ai where they follow nodes and interpret them for instructions on how to move?

[spring abyss]

But they can do some cool stuff like walk quiet if the enemy is looking to the other way until get them by surprise

[spring abyss]

No, the waypoints are not exactly linked to the map, is more like if i take map coordenates and tell you to go there, if you got something blocking you path your will not get there

[hazy helm]

close,a more simplified system akin to Killzone's one,dunno if you heard of it

[spring abyss]

Yeah, the hl2 waypoint will just not work in a open world map

[supple bay]

oh my god there are so many artifacts in garbage

[rough aurora]

[hazy helm]

either that or blackmail,choose

[rough aurora]

I have nitro home boy.

[hazy helm]

share the fun

[rough aurora]

Negative ghost rider. Need my money for ammo

[jaunty mason]

wait, they're trans?

[spring abyss]

Who?

[supple bay]

when is sidorovitch going to sell something actually good?

[spring abyss]

Never 😎👍

[elfin vapor]

Hello

[spring abyss]

But on my mod he can sell a nosorog suit

[hazy helm]

he as a chanche to sells a mid-late game gun before you talk to wolf at the start of the game

[supple bay]

Earlier in the game he was selling a special gun but its no longer for sale even thouhg im rich now. And I can still see it in the room behind him

[spring abyss]

😎

[hazy helm]

[spring abyss]

Git gud bro

[supple bay]

Funny how bolts are useless I thought they would actually have a purpose

[spring abyss]

They got a purpose

[elfin vapor]

Is there any chance that for some reason you will be friends with a faction without even joining? In Stalker shadow of chernobyl

[spring abyss]

Is to find anomalies before you step on them, some burners are too hard to find out

[supple bay]

If you get rich without talking to wolf can you come back and buy it right away?

[hazy helm]

in SoC you dont join a faction so to say but become friends with them
same with CS,only in CoP would you be considered inside the faction

[spring abyss]

Yeah, if you do the freedom quest you will be freedom friend

If you do the duty quests you will be duty friend

[hazy helm]

well if youre lucky I think so?I dont know since you talk to wolf to get your weapons,and I dont know where youd get the ammo for the gun but its certainly possible I think

[elfin vapor]

Oh

[hazy helm]

wolf would know more,ping and ask him

[supple bay]

Im psure theres a makarov in the chest by him you dont haveto talk to him

[hazy helm]

if there is I never really picked it up and thus never saw it

[elfin vapor]

So that's why I'm a friend of the freedom faction haha

[supple bay]

i never picked it up either I found it later

[spring abyss]

Stalker soc is full os secrets, secret suits stored in some secrets places, secrets guns on hidden stashs

You need to find out

[spring abyss]

Eww freedom 👎

Join duty

[elfin vapor]

I already have the laser sniper i don't remember the name because it fell of an enemy in prypiat

[spring abyss]

Gauss rifle

[elfin vapor]

Yeah that one

I looked it yt to see how do i get the ammo but no i see i wasn't supposed to get the gun that quickly i think

The enemy was on top of a building btw

[spring abyss]

It is, keep them

Theres a dude inside the cnpp with ammo

[elfin vapor]

Why does some stashes keep marked on the map but when i open them they don't have anything

[spring abyss]

Bug i think

If done the first quest without the petruha help, the quest will keep marked on map even if i done it

Soc is full of bugs, they fix that with the use of the task_functor script in cs and cop

[elfin vapor]

And a another question Do the emissions appear randomly on stalker Anomaly?

[spring abyss]

Ewww anomaly

We don't do that here

[elfin vapor]

? What does that mean?

[spring abyss]

Anomaly is basically coc

Coc got a script for emissions, one in each 24 hours or maybe one in 1-2 days

[elfin vapor]

Oh

[supple bay]

I saw gameplay of anomaly it looks like garrys mod no lie

[spring abyss]

And?

[supple bay]

The entire map is like in 720p but they got tacticool M4a1 socom super ranger m4s with canted red dots in 4k

[elfin vapor]

You described very well the feeling

[spring abyss]

??? The guy was probably playing on low

[supple bay]

you think operatordrewski plays on low?

[elfin vapor]

I only played for like 8hrs and i didn't feel the immersion

[spring abyss]

Anomaly got good textures, he is bad bc they use misery stuff and extreme and unnecessary realism mechanics

[supple bay]

Im not lying it looks like garrys mod

[spring abyss]

It's ok bro, try lost alpha 👍

[elfin vapor]

I heard for a lot of mods for the stalker trilogy but i first need to complete the first game 😅

[supple bay]

do artifacts respawn?

[spring abyss]

Them why you're playing anomaly?

[elfin vapor]

Just to see how it was

[spring abyss]

👎

[elfin vapor]

It was my first time playing a stalker game

[spring abyss]

Join call of chernokyl you can get a free npc

And we got cool junky mechanics and lemonade

[elfin vapor]

Yeah many times the npcs bodies got straight away to the moon and beyond sometimes

[hazy helm]

he was probably playing on Gamma or Expedition or one of those modpacks

there is like one mod that tries to make it more akin to the OGs however,it doesnt doo enuff,

[elfin vapor]

I've heard that Clear sky and call of prypiat feel more like an expansion than a game

[spring abyss]

Who said that? I will put a bounty on them

[elfin vapor]

Haha some close friend of mine

[spring abyss]

120000 ru for this one

[elfin vapor]

He put me into this new game world to be hilarious

Or new experience

[spring abyss]

Your friend is cool but not wise

Cs is a completely different game

And cop is cs with some improvements and retreats

[elfin vapor]

Oh i see

[glossy ore]

CS is a prequel and COP is a sequel

Well, technically a sequel? The upcoming game is STALKER 2 so idk how it works with that

[elfin vapor]

Well he says that stalker is like metro but with steroids no joking

[hazy helm]

S2 will be placed years after COP,Im betting it wont have many relations so as to ease new players into the lore

[glossy ore]

makes sense to be a reboot type thing, although it seems pretty direct with stuff like ||C-Consciousness, I think one of the characters is Doctor, etc||

[elfin vapor]

Well i wish my pc was powerful enough to play stalker 2

I play on a laptop without a graphics video card just a CPU

[glossy ore]

the struggle, a proper GPU is like night and day

[elfin vapor]

What does that mean?

[glossy ore]

I meant I used to be in a similar position, and the upgrade was amazing

[elfin vapor]

Oh that's cool

Maybe connecting a GT 940 or a 1050 to my pc will do the job

[glossy ore]

literally any GPU is better than no GPU, for the most part

probably not to run Stalker 2 but it can open up a lot of games

[elfin vapor]

Yeah just for a normal 1080p experience it should be good

I am not a very demanding person haha

The first time i played stalker anomaly it was on Directx 11 on default settings my pc didn't take it very well

It was burning inside

[spring abyss]

Major are probably just history and bones for now

Strelok are probably completely bald

Scar is.....where is scar anyway?

[hazy helm]

Major should still be working as a spy,Strelok should be in the mainland or dead and scar is somewhere,maybe dead maybe alive?who knows?he's Schrödinger's Scar!

[spring abyss]

And how about nimble? He is the main character

[hazy helm]

Nimble will maybe become a bonafide trader?!who knows!

[spring abyss]

Stalker is game about how nimble can survive anything

[spring abyss]

Nimble will be the new sid, stalker 2 plot exposed

[elfin vapor]

I'm gonna say something why does Dirge for the planet hit so hard?

[spring abyss]

Firelake , firelake

Reply with money if you like firelake

[elfin vapor]

Sometimes when i go to the bar some stalkers are dead for some reason haha

[spring abyss]

It's the zone

[elfin vapor]

I never knew how you could use the artifacts on you until I never knew how you could use the artifacts on you until end-game

[spring abyss]

average anomaly player

[elfin vapor]

So i literally have a LOT of artifacts all scattered over the blue chest on the map

I was keeping them because i already have a lot of rubles

The funny thing is that I'm playing on master difficulty

[spring abyss]

[glossy ore]

I've been replaying SoC and completely forgot you can use artifacts from the very start

up until the midgame or so

[elfin vapor]

I've died so many times to anomalies without knowing that

[spring abyss]

[elfin vapor]

But now i see them no use at all i have a very good Armour and i am currently preparing to go to the nuclear reactor to complete the main history

Another funny thing is that i was afk without the main menu in the entrance of the army warehouses and then after 1min or so I was seeing 2 bloodsuckers coming in my way

[livid viper]

Hey y’all. Thinking of getting the ultimate edition. Anyone else “skeptical”?
regarding to my previous ultimate / collectors edition purchases like fallout 4’s being a letdown, i’m curious if the backpack will be worth the extra $100
Anomaly lamps is super cool though. And will the pc ultimate edition come with a steam code as well?

[elfin vapor]

They almost killed me i manage to survive because the duty faction squad that was near me for the attacking the freedom base side quest

[spring abyss]

Too many text my eyes, my eyes

[elfin vapor]

Haha i like to talk a lot sorry

[spring abyss]

@worthy lagoon help this man my king

[spring abyss]

Don't sorry, i only accept apologies by joining duty

[elfin vapor]

Sorry again because i don't really like duty even tho their purpose doesn't convince me at all

[livid viper]

Please help 😂

[spring abyss]

1200000ru for this one

[elfin vapor]

Cool and interesting faction tho

[livid viper]

i’m planning on finishing SoC finally here soon

[spring abyss]

Don't worry kuro will help you

[elfin vapor]

Same

[livid viper]

i don’t know as much as i wanted about stalker, started really playing GAMMA and realized i need to vanilla solo first

(But i’m not a gamma entry ive had stalker in my library for years lol)

[spring abyss]

Ew vanilla>>>all>> coc sylky edition > rest of the mods

[glossy ore]

GAMMA is pretty overkill for a start. It's a bit weird all these mods are free tbh, they even use game assets

[elfin vapor]

Everyone who has played first anomaly before the original games have think of that is very worth it

[glossy ore]

Well, not that they're free but that they don't require owning the games

[livid viper]

it also has an unfixable stutter issue

[spring abyss]

You can try the gamma discord for help, help this man @mortal parcel

[finite summit]

I'll tell you more. There are games being sold on steam that use stolen S.T.A.L.K.U.H. assets

[glossy ore]

Anomaly also misrepresents a ton of stuff in the game's story that I wonder how many people will be confused if Clear Sky isn't around in STALKER 2 for example

[elfin vapor]

The immersive feeling of the first game doesn't match any other game I've ever played i like it

[livid viper]

anomaly is prob what ill try eventually as its not overkill like gamma. I like the faction setup for anomaly/gamma tho

[elfin vapor]

Gamma from my perspective is like a pack of add-ons just for the sake of realism

[glossy ore]

I guess Anomaly/GAMMA are interchangeable, they just aren't a very good way to get into STALKER imo - or at least not if you see it as a replacement for the series

[elfin vapor]

Trying very hard to be a tarkov-like experience

[elfin vapor]

Well they are unique the formula is great but it needs more polishing than content in my opinion

[graceful saddle]

I beat clear sky!

[humble nexus]

👏👏

[finite dragon]

I'm going to try and beat my insomnia schedule by not sleeping until tomorrow later, going to clean and try and get around to beating CoP

is @nimble cipher broken not giving prompts

[supple bay]

Is the IL-86 good?

Or should I stick with a fast firing AKM-74 and an Mp5?

[spring abyss]

Ew ew ew every Enfield rifle is terrible, find a g36

Kill some freedomers

German rifles are awesome it doesn't matter what time is

[supple bay]

AK platform > all other platforms

[spring abyss]

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk weapon issue

[finite dragon]

jfc got to a fake cutscene and mf dogs are on me now after it saved so dumb

nvm wasn't that bad after respawning

Pripyat in CoP atmosphere and music is really good

[limpid salmon]

AK is good but the GP37 is awesome

[finite dragon]

I'm using a pretty upgraded gp37 rn and upgraded predator

[limpid salmon]

AC96 isn't bad either

[finite dragon]

im thinking I cant just use my weapons until the endgame I hope, i don't know maybe I am in the endgame idk

[mortal parcel]

Yeah better make people pay for it, why didn’t I ever think of it, ah maybe to recruit professional modelers and texturers to make our own assets indeed /s

[mortal parcel]

There are several ways of solving stutters

[mortal parcel]

Well Anomaly lacks tons of QoL and is really imbalanced, and it’s easily cheesable. The progression is really boring as well

Farm south for 15 days > buy an Exo, a saiga and 200 buckshots. You are set for the endgame

[finite dragon]

Can't wait to finally finish CoP and play all these mods people bicker about constantly

[finite dragon]

these mf burers getting me good in this scary basement

god yeah this is hard

oh lol just read theres a bug with them and they have like infinite hp unless you're in the room with them in x8

[potent bluff]

Hey Groks

[buoyant birch]

Blasphemy, their bolt action rifles are superior.

[finite dragon]

x8 hurt my head because of the burer bug i take break

[sleek tundra]

Which mods?

[finite dragon]

any of them i just want to play them, ill play A word eff it to try it

[sleek tundra]

Yeah, which mods? The majority are actually bad and don't deserve the praise (anomaly, misery, CoC)

[finite dragon]

lol yeah by a word i meant anomaly, ill probably try gamma

[sleek tundra]

Not much better

[finite dragon]

just want to see what the hate is about

[hazy helm]

we are so over

[finite dragon]

lol i know thats why i want to play it its hatred is here is talked about more than the game

[sleek tundra]

That's what they all say, next thing you know they uninstalled the original games and are printing out 10 "I LOVE ANOMALY" posters

[sleek tundra]

You liked the vanilla stalker games so I doubt you'd be able to see the hate behind Anomaly

[finite dragon]

yeah just curious to try em out

ill play CoC too

Curious to play Oblivion Lost, im sure ill ask about mods when im done with cop

[hazy helm]

Thr anomaly hate is really only about the obnoxious community around it
The mod itself is very mediocre to bad

[worthy lagoon]

Depends on your tastes, OL is a completely different mod

Just like LA and Goldsphere

Don't expect those mods to be nice on you

It's not as easy as in Anomaly

[finite dragon]

Never played Anomaly just the originals

[worthy lagoon]

Well, especially Goldsphere, i found it more difficult than OLR

Just wait until you get to Garbage

[finite dragon]

honestly havent look into mods other than the occasional screenshot, trying to have a pure stalker experience

olr seemed cool

how much more CoP do I have if im in x8 rn

wait can i say shit now cause wolf is dead

[worthy lagoon]

It's still alive

Wait no

[finite dragon]

well i can say shit and he hasn't been doing the event prompts in hours

[quaint niche]

what

what you need to kill?

shadow of chernobyl?

[burnt hatch]

https://youtu.be/SjugsyOKNvg

[stark plover]

What do you mean Kuro? Garbage in Goldsphere is like a walk in the park!

[mortal parcel]

Hi BLIN how are you doing mate ?

[finite dragon]

what happens if i don't get all the documents in x8

[potent bluff]

Aye I'm good bro

[sand condor]

morning

[hazy helm]

how you doing grok

[mortal parcel]

still sick

saw a medic yesterday, got 2 different corticoids and an antibiotic... even so we don't know if my infection is of bacterial or viral origin

So I will still wait a week before taking the antibiotic

[hazy helm]

damn sounds tuff,I'll try and send you good luck,get better

[mortal parcel]

💚

It reminded me that there's no corticoid in gamma post heal system

[hazy helm]

maybe keep it that way

[sand condor]

will there be improvements to protection systems

[worthy lagoon]

Antibiogram

[mortal parcel]

yeah well, the medic didn't want to perform one

[worthy lagoon]

?????????

wtf

[mortal parcel]

Currently there's wave of viruses and other infections in France, so they don't want to overcharge the labs with each patient they see

[worthy lagoon]

but they allow themselves to prescribe antibiotics?

[nimble cipher]

Grok#2049 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mortal parcel]

yeah it's bull

[worthy lagoon]

lol

[mortal parcel]

that's why I won't take it. Can't even find it actually in any shop

[hazy helm]

wolf is back,woe is we

[sand condor]

will there be new protection stat

[mortal parcel]

Which means tons of people bought some because all the medics are giving it.... which is very concerning

[hazy helm]

currently brainstorming ideas,should start making a mod when Im done making this joke game lmao

[mortal parcel]

in gamma you mean?

[sand condor]

stalker 2

[hazy helm]

grok is the dev behind GAMMA not Stalker2

[mortal parcel]

well I guess first they gotta make a good protection system before adding new resistances

[sand condor]

whats gamma

[hazy helm]

Hardcore Survival realism focused total conversion modpack for anomaly

[worthy lagoon]

Bacteria might be the ones who are pan-resistant to antibiotics, but we are the ones who are pan-resistant to change -Infectious disease medicine

[mortal parcel]

And currently no information was given about stalker 2 itemisation outside of that single inventory screenshot of a G36, which even had some icons swapped for 2 statistics... So my bet is that they don't have proper itemisation yet

[hazy helm]

that screenshot quelled a lot of worries for me,showed me they were gonna stick to their guns and make it close to the OGs,keep it stalker yknow

[mortal parcel]

Reminds me of Darktide, game got released, no itemisation whatsoever, while you can make a proper itemisation system without actually making any graphical asset

It's just values and formulas. And it's a single person job. I know that pretty well since I remade the entire itemisation and item stats and formulas for attacks and defense in gamma

[mortal parcel]

yeah but they added penetration value. So a bit of Tarkov in your stalker soup with friend, like it or not

[hazy helm]

mhe pen was already a stat you know,kind of

[worthy lagoon]

Always has been a thing since SoC

Just hidden

[mortal parcel]

[worthy lagoon]

Penetration in EFT is a joke

[mortal parcel]

yeah well, it was hidden and it was just a glorified damage multiplier

[hazy helm]

« hmmyes

[mortal parcel]

The formula behind it is quite dumb and the information conveyed to the player is so minimalistic, it's kind of a joke actually

[hazy helm]

I see no problem with the formula,for you mod tho?it would but thats cuz youre not trying to do the same thing

[worthy lagoon]

minimalistic?

[mortal parcel]

basically there's no information given to the player about how "good" an ammunition is

[worthy lagoon]

It does?

lol

Just read the description of the ammo

[hazy helm]

thats never a problem in the games Grok,bc the player is never thinking about ammo statistics,only about the gun itself,and thats how ti should mainly be really,AP is an aexception

[sand condor]

id bet the loot ui isnt final

[hazy helm]

now if you want to balance the game solely around calibers instead of the guns that fire them and make it more realisticd youd see more of a problem

[hazy helm]

they didnt say that in the ask gsc chennl

[mortal parcel]

then don't make different kind of ammo

[mortal parcel]

yeah that's what I am saying, there's no information whatsoever

[sand condor]

should stalker 2 have penetration

[worthy lagoon]

it's always has been a thing, why do you need perfect statistics when you can just read what the description says? lol

[sand condor]

like wood with 5.56mm

[hazy helm]

they added different types of the same ammo in later games that had different stats but they were clearly stated what they would do,and the player would naturally recieve the information a piece of equipment was better thru the stats displayed and bc thats how the ladder of progression works

[mortal parcel]

because you realise how so much bull the values and stats are and the player is fooled when try to make their build

[worthy lagoon]

Not true?

Most of the time you just aim at the head

[hazy helm]

grok the statistics work fine for build creation,they just arent working for YOUR kind of mod,bc the game was never trynna go thru your avenue

[sand condor]

that double barrel rips apart everything

[worthy lagoon]

double barrel shotgun my beloved

I've used the double barrel till the end of SoC

[mortal parcel]

Take Anomaly for instance . 95% of the player base think they should play 5.56 AP rounds, while actually you can just play 9x19 FMJ with about the same efficiency, or simply use buckshots and kill everything at 100m

[sand condor]

but realistically saiga 12 is superior

[hazy helm]

we were never talking anomaly we were talking about the stalker games LMAO

[worthy lagoon]

You see, STALKER is not Tarkov

Tarkov doesn't have exo suits

You don't need to shoot people in the legs with RIP ammunition

[sand condor]

quick reload with high rof

[mortal parcel]

They both try to do the same thing: RPG-like FPS system with guns and armors

[worthy lagoon]

??=r23o0k1r912????

What?????

How?????

Have you like

ever played EFT?

[mortal parcel]

700h+

[worthy lagoon]

If so then even CoD is like EFT

[worthy lagoon]

Yeah, and i have 2k in there

[mortal parcel]

no because CoD doesn't have any loot progression system for armors, guns and ammo

[worthy lagoon]

Now tell me how is the pen system in STALKER like EFT

[mortal parcel]

I never said that

[hazy helm]

Grok both are WILDLY differen,tarkov is a lot more realistic and thats not even hiding,Stalker?not really,it is a lot more arcady

[worthy lagoon]

"They both try to do the same thing: RPG-like FPS system with guns and armors"

[mortal parcel]

They are different, but they are trying to achieve kind of the same thing, with very different approaches

[worthy lagoon]

???

Every FPS game is around the mechanic of killing someone with a gun with different weapons and with different outfits

[hazy helm]

I dont think you can compare Stalker and Tarkov for being """"""RPG LIKE FPS systems"""""" thats too vague,like both call of duty modern warfare and battlefield 3 are FPS games,but are they the same or comparable?not really bro,they fill different roles and try different things

[mortal parcel]

You shoot people with guns, guns have recoil, guns shoot different kind of bullets, and they land on enemies that have armors. You compare gun + bullet vs armor and you do damages or not based on the values and the formula making the system. See what I mean ?

[worthy lagoon]

Just like any other FPS including Apex has such mechanic

Not only EFT

[sand condor]

i think stalker is hybrid like cod? and downtime of eft

[mortal parcel]

CoD, CS, and whatnot don't have different types of rounds of a given gun nor different armors

[worthy lagoon]

EFT just focuses in making armor penetration more unrealistic

[hazy helm]

no no not really

[sand condor]

when action occurs it's over quick depending how many enemies

[mortal parcel]

You fail to see what I mean. Apex and the like is like, armor goes from 0 - 100 or 200 or whatever, guns deal x damage per shot to armor or life and that's it, with more or less damage reduction based on distance

[worthy lagoon]

Ok and? There are thousands of other games with such mechanics, EFT is not the only one

[mortal parcel]

[worthy lagoon]

Like seriously

Stop making every single game a copy of another game

it's boring

[mortal parcel]

Well I guess you fail to see the difference behind the systems

[worthy lagoon]

Let other games have its own system

STALKER is not meant to be realistic

and it will never be

STALKER is meant to be IMMERSIVE

Which is a completely different thing

[sand condor]

don't like that emote

[mortal parcel]

Because having good ironed out gameplay mechanics and systems preclude the immersion ?

[worthy lagoon]

Immersion doesn't need an EFT like penetration system, STALKER always had a simple ammunition mechanic

[hazy helm]

good joke kuro,much thanks for the comedy

[worthy lagoon]

By immersive i mean the atmosphere

Making you feel like you are in its own world

[nimble cipher]

Grok#2049 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage