⭐┃nospoilers_general

[spring abyss]

Average cyberpunk player

[solid dome]

How do we integrate our CoCk into GamMa

[spring abyss]

Stalker anomaly 2: the glowing gamma cocK remake

[finite dragon]

cyberpunk was chill and i liked it at launch

[sand fiber]

eh i don't think people actually hate 77

[finite dragon]

they definitely did really hard before 1.5 or whatever patch im thinking of

[sand fiber]

i mean, they should, but not the game

[spring abyss]

That* joke was originally about fallout 76, but the game doesn't deserve players

[solid dome]

@sand fiber I need manual on how to integrate my cock into gamma so I can do cock fights in the abandoned bus park @ Garbage

[sand fiber]

it's easy

[solid dome]

She's writing actual manual, boys

[sand fiber]

you take out internals of your cock and put it into gamma's root directory

[spring abyss]

Dawn, Iam a game dev for 2 minutes and my game already has been exposed

I need a new antivirus

[solid dome]

And @spring abyss I need you to smuggle out couple cocks for my fights. You brazillians know how to do business.

[spring abyss]

[solid dome]

You cockstand me?

[spring abyss]

Cockright

[simple kiln]

Is there anyway to upgrade my edition? I was gifted a standard copy, and wanted to upgrade to ultimate

[sand fiber]

i don't think that's possible

[finite dragon]

should i switch to seva and start upgrading or stick with cs-1(3a in US) that has kevlar

[polar fern]

We need a STALKER FIFA with a zone championship here are the predicted results

1.Military
2.Loners
3.Freedom
4.Duty
5.Bandits
6.Clear sky
7.Ecologists

[remote crow]

Duty is better than freedom physically bc they workout and freedumb have crisp black lungs from weed

[finite dragon]

there is next to no tar in weed, that was some propaganda

[remote crow]

As a med student I cannot confirm

[finite dragon]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/large-study-finds-no-link/ eh its not good to smoke a lot of anything but its a fraction of cigs for sure

[remote crow]

Freedumb moment

[finite dragon]

alright bub, smoking a joint a day is like being a smoker

[jaunty mason]

absolutely false

you don't wanna know what's in weed my guy

[finite dragon]

there's a fraction of it in pot.. i used to grow 100s of plants lol

[jaunty mason]

good to know

[finite dragon]

i didn't even like to smoke it when I did now I occasionally like to at the end of the night to chill and read/watch

but yeah its not nearly as carcinogenic as smokes, i can find sources up your ying yang

[remote crow]

WHY ARE WE ARGUING ABT THIS

[nimble cipher]

atheadax#3617 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[finite dragon]

because freedumb entered the chat bruh

[remote crow]

There's a reason why it's illegal bestie

It can cause neurological damage as well as lung damage

[finite dragon]

ok its not where I live and if you think only illegal things are bad we done here my friend

[jaunty mason]

because he dumb I'm bigbrain I know he's wrong I must crush the misinformation

ughhhh fine

I'll just leave with this last bit: smokers, whether it's cigarettes or blunts, are exposed to ionizing radiation.

[finite dragon]

lol

[jaunty mason]

Take care

[finite dragon]

that is insane, and the issue is carcinogens not radiation "i will leave it with that"

[jaunty mason]

polonium

Do you think commercial suppliers really care about washing pesticides off before they process it?

Go work at a cigarette mill

That's what my uncle did

[remote crow]

GUYS STOP DLADJADJASDJ

[nimble cipher]

atheadax#3617 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[jaunty mason]

rreeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[finite dragon]

right

[polar fern]

There was a guy quite famous here in brazil because he was weed man you know smokes weird do goofy shıt so funny nowadays he fell into a lot more drugs and disappeared

[remote crow]

As a med student- I recommend you stop if you care for your mind and body. But it's not my choice to make you quit shawty

[finite dragon]

ok not doing this one anymore, smoking weed is a fraction of bad compared to cigs and booze 100% confirmed but we're just going to go in circles, does not matter

bless hope we all healthy

[polar fern]

Not very good lines you drawing on

[finite dragon]

this conversation is retarded lol im not arguing that weed is safe in discord rn i dont care

dumb freedumb comment

[amber wind]

From what I’ve heard weed is far less dangerous than smoking if your brain has been fully developed, but below the age of 18(?) it can cause neuroglical damage and stuff like that

[finite dragon]

its effing confirmed, it not being okay was some weird propaganda to incarcerate people and/or ignorance.. doctors used to say smokes were good

[jaunty mason]

well, one could argue that jumping off of a bridge is safer than stepping in front of a train

[finite dragon]

LOL

[polar fern]

Less dangerous than smoking is not a good line to draw on,ketamine is less dangerous than fentanyl

[jaunty mason]

one's guaranteed to kill you, the other ehhh you'll probably die, but there's a chance

[amber wind]

I’m pretty sure a large reason as to why it was banned in the US is due to propaganda about it making Mexicans attracted to you for some government funding thing

[finite dragon]

good luck with living like that yall

we'll talk again another time, this is rere

[polar fern]

Good luck living without the things im addicted to!

[remote crow]

I'm addicted to drinking water

[worthy coral]

I'm trying to kill a bloodsucker in X19 with a Chaser 13 shotgun w/ dart ammo, but I keep dying to it. Aren't shotguns supposed to be really good vs mutants? (this is SoC)

[languid turtle]

will stalker 2 come out?

[sand fiber]

perhaps

[sand fiber]

it is, shoot more

[languid turtle]

0.0

someone told me about one of the staff passed away on the field

:(

[worthy coral]

I ended up just using AP ammo against it with a SGI and got it

[sand fiber]

yes, og CS developer

[languid turtle]

:(

[sand fiber]

literally me

[steep wren]

Volodymyr Yezhov

[sleek tundra]

Probably because you're not using buckshot

Which is the best ammo type against blood people at close range

[graceful saddle]

I beat stalker soc a second time and did both c-con endings Pog

[sleek tundra]

Good, now go to CS

[graceful saddle]

I think I am going to move on to coc

[sand fiber]

???

[sleek tundra]

Before finishing CS and CoP?

[graceful saddle]

ooh sorry I mean cop

[sleek tundra]

Where's CS

[graceful saddle]

isn't clear sky not as good?

[sleek tundra]

MF listens to random people on the Internet, get him

[sand fiber]

Don't believe what people say on the internet

[amber tendon]

"I love spreading misinformation on the internet" told you that

[sand fiber]

It has tons of problems, but a good game nontheless

[graceful saddle]

ok I bought clear sky now also

[sleek tundra]

Dude, they say Anomaly is great, you seriously going to trust them?

[amber tendon]

everything before final boss fight is good

[graceful saddle]

because it is 3 dollars cad

[sleek tundra]

Cad? Is that a military rank?

[graceful saddle]

canadian dollars

[amber tendon]

canadian dollars

[sand fiber]

sergeant sergeant master sergeant

[graceful saddle]

canadian dollars

[sleek tundra]

Canadian tears

[graceful saddle]

true

[lyric forge]

.

[sleek tundra]

Dot

[lyric forge]

Yes a dot

[graceful saddle]

I wish there were a mod that adds the story of soc into anomaly

[sleek tundra]

Why?

That would destroy the point of anomaly

Uhh, sorry, I forgot to say this too. Anomaly sucks.

[worthy coral]

Is it worth grinding some money in SoC for an exoskeleton? I just finished brain scorcher mission and I have 86k RU

[sleek tundra]

You're in the endgame now

It doesn't really matter if you have an exo or not, you probably have good gear already

[worthy coral]

I was using a SSP-99M suit for the brain scorcher mission, but it's pretty busted up now

[sleek tundra]

Just get a new suit

Stalker is not a difficult game, if you ever get stuck you can just search for artifacts to get easy money

[graceful saddle]

I skipped cs lol

I just want to play the newest one

[sleek tundra]

Is this what meeting a loser feels like?

[graceful saddle]

cop looks very nice in comparison to soc

[sleek tundra]

Worst story if you ask me

[graceful saddle]

[sleek tundra]

Eh, artifacts and anomalies are worse

All artifacts only have negative radiation effects, whoever made that system deserves to be forced to play anomaly

[sand fiber]

graphically cs is better

[sleek tundra]

Speaking of anomalies, they're now worse than ever because they only spawn in dedicated locations so you don't need to watch your back

[sand fiber]

And anomaly just sucks, its the worst freeplay mod out there

[graceful saddle]

o really? ok I'll play cs then

[sleek tundra]

Not a high bar tbh

There aren't many, if any, decent freeplay mods

[graceful saddle]

the most popular too though eh?

[sleek tundra]

This is what being a gamer in 2022 does to a MF

[sleek tundra]

Popularity doesn't equal quality

[sand fiber]

Blasphemy, Alpha Modmaker produces only AAA scale quality mods

[graceful saddle]

that's true

[sleek tundra]

It's popular because it's a good modding platform, but it's not a good game

You'll never find someone playing anomaly vanilla

[sand fiber]

Demosfens CoC fork isn't just a mod, it's an artpiece

[graceful saddle]

what is the best freeplay mod?

[sand fiber]

No such, really
Legend Returns and Old World (for Anomaly) can qualify i think

[graceful saddle]

what about mods in general?

should I get any mods because I beat soc vanilla

[sleek tundra]

No best mod in general

Just best mods in their own category

Best SoC mod that adds content and tries to stick to the original story? OGSE. Best hardcore story driven mod? NLC 7

[sand fiber]

There are quite a few good ones, Oblivion Lost Remake, Lost Alpha DC, Valley of Whispers, Winds of Time, SFZ... All of those are story-oriented though

Generally there are only three types of mods: story mods, freeplays and soups

[graceful saddle]

what about making the games just look and play a lot nicer?

[sleek tundra]

Like I said, OGSE

[graceful saddle]

ok I will download that

[sleek tundra]

Or was it OGSR? You might like it, makes SoC play like a modern game

Better graphics, better gunplay, semi integrated gunslinger

[sand fiber]

eh you can install weapon packs for a game and graphic overhaul but like why

[sleek tundra]

I don't know, man. I'd rather install story mods instead of weapon packs or graphics overhauls

[sand fiber]

just finish other two main games, my god

[sleek tundra]

Soups are either the worst thing you'll ever find, or the best

[graceful saddle]

soc is fun

[sand fiber]

and then go play whatever, gamma, anomaly, cock

[sleek tundra]

Cock

[verbal hemlock]

I’d say for CoP just play it vanilla first and then experiment with what you like when it comes to gunplay mods, etc. A lot of the mods don’t just make things objectively better but change the balance for both good and often bad. I’d say it’s better to play it the way the designers built it first lest a mod ruin your first experience of the story/quests/world

[sleek tundra]

Gunslinger

[hearty vigil]

kill gunslinger

[sleek tundra]

Purist scum

[hearty vigil]

Also why here and not #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[verbal hemlock]

Gunslinger is a good example of a mod that changes a lot of things for good, but also too many things for bad. I wouldn’t do gunslinger on your first playthrough.

[sleek tundra]

Example on bad?

Making healing animations is not necessary a bad thing, it's not what the "developers intended" (trademarked) but it's objectively a good system to prevent medkit spam

[hearty vigil]

The ejecting mechanism and handle are no longer on the left side.

[verbal hemlock]

I love mods and I’ll defend them any day lmao, I just think the first experience should be mostly as the developers built it. Don’t want people to get a wrong impression of the game by things that were done by a mod. Trust me, I’ve had my fair share of arguments with “purist scum”

[sleek tundra]

That comment was directed to street cred

Either way, I agree. I've seen too many people mistake bad features of a mod to be from vanilla

[hearty vigil]

You can’t spam medkits in CoP anyway because all meds are not used instantly and instead restore health over a time period.

[sleek tundra]

You can still spam late game medkits

Army medkit, scientific medkit

[verbal hemlock]

what they did to the burers is the big one but just in general the difficulty overhaul is better for someone who’s already played the game and worse for someone who hasn’t. This franchise is already hard enough for new people to get into, no need for a mod (however good we know it to be) to potentially ruin their first experience. CoP is more than good enough to be played vanilla first run.

[sleek tundra]

I'd disagree that the franchise is hard

It's very easy to get into the games, they actually blew up because of ""hardcore"" mods

[verbal hemlock]

me too mostly but I’ve had several friends who struggled to “get into” SoC for a variety of reasons

[sleek tundra]

The original ones are easy, even on the hardest settings. Clear quest markers, easy way to get money, etc

[sleek tundra]

Maybe it's just not their cup of tea or they're used to, I don't know, candy crush

[hearty vigil]

It still takes 10 seconds for them to restore health.

[sleek tundra]

The games are objectively easier than the fallout games

[sleek tundra]

And it takes 30 seconds for enemies to kill you with good armor and not staying out in the open

[verbal hemlock]

mods I’d recommend to first timers would be ZRP, SRP, and PRP (although not really for the latter two, ZRP is the only one that’s ‘worth it’ for a vanilla experience that’s slightly enhanced/fixed/upgraded).

[verbal hemlock]

that depends on a number of variables

[hearty vigil]

But installing ZRP goes exactly against your very argument about people mixing up mod and and vanilla stuff.

[sleek tundra]

That's why i said objectively

[hearty vigil]

It’s not a purely bugfix mod, and neither are the other two.

[sleek tundra]

Let's use fallout new vegas as an example because it's the most popular fallout

[verbal hemlock]

ZRP is the borderline exception for me. Yeah, it changes a few things, but most of those few changes are objectively better + all of the fixes.

[hearty vigil]

You guys like the word “objectively” way too much.

I don’t think you know what it means tho. 💀

[sleek tundra]

What's your argument?

[verbal hemlock]

I only used it once and I stand by my one use of it 🤧

[sleek tundra]

That games are subjective?

[hearty vigil]

That there are no objective improvements and what matters is the initial intention.

[sleek tundra]

Yes there are

Game design is objective, if a game had bad balance and you fixed said balance, then it will be objectively a good improvement

[hearty vigil]

You won’t make Romeo and Juliet “objectively” better by adding a couple of new chapters and characters, the only thing that matters is how it was meant to be by the author.

And the only thing that matters about trilogy is how it was meant to be experienced by devs.

And I wouldn’t trade any of dev intentions even for hundreds of fixes.

[verbal hemlock]

without touching the modifiers practically all of ZRP’s changes are objective improvements to notable flaw’s in the game’s design. yeah I know I talked about developer intentions earlier for CoP and that’s because CoP is a well designed and well balanced game, SoC was when they were less experienced and there are a handful of cracks that could really stand to be addressed by a mod like ZRP

[sleek tundra]

1. Yes you can, even devs make mistake
2. If a dev makes a mistake, I.G something that is obviously not intended or is very different to the rest of the game for no explainable reason, then it's objectively bad

Bug fixes are objectively good because the devs, very obviously, didn't want to add bugs in their games

[hearty vigil]

How does making IL86 accessible on second level in the game better in terms of game design? It ruins progression.

[hearty vigil]

Yeah, shame there are no bugfix mods that DO NOT try to put their own shit along fixes.

[sleek tundra]

Eh, there was that one mod for fnv

Most popular because it doesn't touch on anything but bug fixes

[nimble cipher]

street cred#4937 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hearty vigil]

There was the same for Morrowind, two mods, where one featured a lot of extra crap and the other took conservative approach.

Anyway, SRP, ZRP and especially PRP feature a lot of non-bugfixes in them.

They’re not first playthrough mods by a mile.

[sleek tundra]

The alternative is a fight for your life between you and a never ending swarm of blood suckers because of a bug

I'd rather take a couple of hundred fixes with one or two changes over something like this

[hearty vigil]

Take what you want, after you already experienced the game as it’s meant to be.

[sand fiber]

Do they?

[hearty vigil]

And it’s not really a 1:100 ratio either.

[sleek tundra]

Oh no no

[sand fiber]

CS is utterly broken, side quests and FW just don't work

It wasn't supposed to be that way, really

[hearty vigil]

Yeah, again, shame there is no patch with conservative approach to fixing.

And they do work, I say that as someone who played vanilla CS for years.

[sand fiber]

I've read ZRP patch note and it stated all the non-vanilla functions like fast travel are disabled by default, so what's wrong with that?

[hearty vigil]

I think the only quest that is actually not possible to complete is drifter stash one.

[hearty vigil]

#⭐┃nospoilers_general message

There is lots of non-optional stuff.

[sand fiber]

Well, what for example?

[hearty vigil]

I did give you a discussion I’ve had the other day related to dozens of such examples with the link above.

[sand fiber]

Oh, sorry

Was that in EN localisation?

[hearty vigil]

Vanilla? No. ZRP? Yes.

[viscid mason]

Hello

[sand fiber]

I see. A shame it is, then

[hearty vigil]

And that’s just text, something really easy to compare. It also changes lots of icons for no reason, it makes Max give you a Black Kite instead of a Walker. And who knows how much stuff lies deeper in the game files?

[sleek tundra]

Like i said, the alternatives are literal broken quests

So if I have to choose between not being able to even play some partd of the game, and playing slightly different parts, then I'll chose the latter

[sand fiber]

In SoC nothing is broken

[sleek tundra]

I thought we were talking about CS

[sand fiber]

In CS i'm psure most of side quests are, yes, broken, but SRP doesn't fix FW, which is a problem too

[sleek tundra]

SoC doesn't need a bug fix, rarely encountered bugs there. CS is a different story

[sand fiber]

I wonder if it's possible to do ZRP/SRP fork without all of unnecessary changes and with more fixes

[hearty vigil]

SoC has more crashes and save corruptions than CS tho. 💀

[sleek tundra]

Better than content that can't be accessed if you ask me

[sand fiber]

eeehhh haven't encountered that

[hearty vigil]

Forks? Certainly not with SRP, the guy rewrote most game code from scratch.

Remaking from scratch is possible.

[sand fiber]

lol? and didn't fix FW?

[sleek tundra]

Crashes? The most you'll lose is a couple of minutes since any sane player saves every 5 minutes. Either way I never encountered a crash or save corruption

[sand fiber]

This is quite amazing, adding random stuff and not fixing the main mechanic of the game in a bugfix mod

[hearty vigil]

No, actually, SRP does rewrite FW virtually from scratch, that’s why it feels so different from vanilla in terms of how faction brain chooses its new targets.

[sand fiber]

but i've heard things like bandits recapturing their base and neutral factions claiming points necessary for FW advancement still happen?

[hearty vigil]

Bandits will recapture their base if you don’t wait for neutrals to take it, that’s intentional mechanic in faction war.

There’s nothing to fix there.

[sand fiber]

Nope, i talk about the fact they respawn when loners/other factions are there

[hearty vigil]

Neutral factions will kindly move out of their way when you join a faction.

[hearty vigil]

Not sure, never had that in vanilla either.

[sand fiber]

Mhm, wasn't the case for me, i believe Loners were able to capture a bunch of necessary points and i just couldn't continue FW as Freedom

[verbal hemlock]

but the neutrals never come lol. The bandit base is 100000% broken in vanilla.

not being able to capture the bandit base is one of the game’s most infamous issues

[remote karma]

mfw i make it to dark valley and i need to go back and retake the bandit base (i will kms)

[verbal hemlock]

exactly, it’s even a meme now lmfao

[sand fiber]

after the final reward there's really no point to

But reward system is kinda broken too

Every new one overwrites the previous reward

[verbal hemlock]

yeah. but most people don’t even get to the final reward because they’re never able to actually ‘capture’ the bandit base at all

loners never come

[sleek tundra]

Dark Valley

Why is it called stalker 2?

[sand fiber]

because it's the second game

[sleek tundra]

It's the fourth game

[sand fiber]

CS and CoP are considered add-ons, you even could install CS ontop of SoC before

It doesn't seem like that and, y'know, isn't, but whatever

[hearty vigil]

Unlucky, I did capture it though.

Neutral base as bandits too.

It’s a matter of luck mostly. And avoiding doing some stuff that breaks it.

[hearty vigil]

Wrong. I mean yeah they’re standalone addons but you could never install one on another.

You’re probably referring to cheap Edition of CoP sold in Ukraine.

It requires any of previous two games.

But you did not install it on top, it did not take any resources either. It just checked that the game is there.

[sleek tundra]

Why

[sleek tundra]

Oh, so like CoC?

The mod doesn't actually require CoP but it checks if it's there, you can write a command to launch the mod regardless

[hearty vigil]

No idea, I did not play CoC.

[hearty vigil]

What? It does not.

There’s a label being broken between saves where if you already got a bigger reward it won’t display a smaller one from the previous save.

But it’s a visual bug, all of your things are still there.

[sand fiber]

Nah, i'm absolutely sure it would even give you unique MP outfit if you did that

[outer lichen]

can you elaborate on your disliking of Anomaly @sleek tundra ?

[hearty vigil]

Unique outfits in CS and CoP are unlocked by default. In SoC they just require you to put correct codes in the exe.

[sleek tundra]

I've wrote an essay before so I'll use it here

1. Lack of content, every single quest is randomly generated and there are only 5 different types at best. Not to mention the balance here is terrible so you could actually get a randomly generated quest from Cordon all the way to freaking pripyat that gives you close to nothing, or you can get a quest that pays well, takes 10 minutes tops to compete and has almost no risk
2. Huge amount of filler items or just worthless extras that don't have any gameplay advantages and could be removed easily, there are 30 medical items but you only need to use one to heal. Mods make this worse by making other healing items mandatory if you want to reach full HP so it's a matter of choosing a volcano or the gates of hell
3. Unbalanced, annoying mechanics. Repairing weapons manually is only a hundred or so rubles cheaper than just repairing them using a technician, even though it's much harder to find the repair parts than rubles
4. Crappy progression, since progression is the only real gameplay element here you'd expect it to be good, but nah. A lot of weapons and armor are useless and the game gives you too much money. You can get endgame gear by mid game
5. Bad artifact system, I'll admit the artifact container was a cool idea, but the artifacts themselves are not. They're not balanced well and rely on randomness so you can get bad artifacts at late game places, and good artifacts at early game areas. Their stats aren't fun either and are somehow worse than the vanilla games or mods like NLC 7

I could play the mod again, write down everything I experienced and make a better analysis, but there's no reason to do this. People who love anomaly won't admit that it's bad or has flaws, and I'll get too much negative comments just because I spoke the truth.

[outer lichen]

Some valid points and I agree with most of them, i guess when i played it through I just manage to ignore the bad aspects as it was pretty easy to do.

[sleek tundra]

Not to mention, I'd waste too much time doing this for little gain

[sleek tundra]

What are the good aspects then? Not much

Faction choices are worthless, it only changes the kill on sight ratio and what you start with slightly

[outer lichen]

Its immersive, lots to do, a good time waster. A stalker sandbox of sorts

[sleek tundra]

It's really not immersive if you look at surface level details

Too easy to get rich, NPCs act like quest or trading bots instead of actual characters

[outer lichen]

Ease of entry is a big reason for its popularity

[sleek tundra]

I'm not talking about popularity, but quality

Popular stuff could be bad

A lot of anomaly players neve rplayed the original games or finished them

[sand fiber]

Alright, gonna do more research, maybe i really made it up

[sleek tundra]

Maybe i was wrong about you...

[outer lichen]

Cant relate, I enjoy anomaly because I enjoy playing anything related to stalker and i can see past its few flaws. Its a good entry into the stalker modding scene as a whole

[sleek tundra]

No its not

Those aren't few flaws, those are HUGE fundamental flaws

[outer lichen]

bro just disagreeing to disagree at this point 🤦‍♂️

[sleek tundra]

You like it, that's fine, but I wouldn't say that it's a good modding entry to stalker

A good modding entry is playing games with actual good gameplay mechanics, stories and characters

[hazy helm]

the only "ease of entry" I can see Anomaly having is it being standalone tbh
its one of THE WORST entry points to the series and shouldnt be considered as one with any shred of seriousness

[shut ruin]

guys is it possible to play oblivion lost ?

[outer lichen]

whats a good one then

[sand fiber]

I think they have a point in that Anomaly is an easy entrypoint into the whole scene of modding

[hazy helm]

he's gonna say NLC7
instead play Spatial Anomaly or Valley of Whispers

[hazy helm]

it's just as easy an entrypoint as CoC was and story mods are tbh

[sleek tundra]

OP2, goldsphere, OGSE, I could go on for a while

[sleek tundra]

Easy? Yes, but they said "good entry point"

[verbal hemlock]

It’s not just ‘unlucky’ this is an infamous problem that a large majority of players had to deal with

[sleek tundra]

Which anomaly isn't, I'd recommend people to play SoC and story based mods first

[outer lichen]

Anything thats non-linear? Or close to

[sleek tundra]

NLC 7 is as close as it could get, quests have more ways to complete them than even anomaly

But the mod is too hardcore for most people

[verbal hemlock]

this isn’t a freeplay mod but ‘Spatial Anomaly’ is a good story mod for CoP for anyone looking for a simple good experience

definitely one of the better ones that I’m aware of. good writing and gameplay

[sand fiber]

What do you mean
Oblivion Lost as in builds of pre-stalker game GSC developed in 2001-2002

Oblivion Lost as in Stalker Oblivion Lost, pre-SoC Stalker that lasted from 2002 to 2004-2005

Oblivion Lost as in Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5, mod restoring most Stalker OL concepts and literary script?

[shut ruin]

i mean the oldest version

[sleek tundra]

Why

[sand fiber]

You can download development builds of Oblivion Lost on stalker wiki/zone chronicles i believe

But there's not much to see

[shut ruin]

ok thanks

[sleek tundra]

Anyway, back to my favorite after day activity

[sand fiber]

Actually what the hell is your profile

[sleek tundra]

Mocking anomaly

[sand fiber]

[sleek tundra]

That would be your mother

📰

🖼️

[verbal hemlock]

time to head to darkscape so I can

do absolutely nothing

[sand fiber]

i can see how your average western gamer could get lost or bored in a story mod

So the only solution to this problem would be creating a good freeplay mod

[sleek tundra]

I love mocking westerners

[verbal hemlock]

I love mocking westerners and eurojankers

we all have our problems 🤧

[sand fiber]

I love mocking gamers

They understand nothing about what they play

[verbal hemlock]

the real answer is somewhere in the middle

[sand fiber]

[nimble cipher]

Savior DJ#5898 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[verbal hemlock]

that was unfortunate I forgot no bad word 🤧

[sleek tundra]

Based

[sand fiber]

Wolf moment

[sleek tundra]

Certified wolf moment

[sand fiber]

you're one such a gamer

[sleek tundra]

We should rebel, no more wolf

[outer lichen]

@sleek tundra opinions on gamma then?

[verbal hemlock]

tbf stalker can be difficult for people to understand because it’s story doesn’t have one unified theme, but a lot of smaller themes. but that’s better than having fallout slam “war never changes!!!!” down our throats a hundred times to the point that it’s meaningless

[sleek tundra]

Better but it has a long way to go, it says a lot that even Gamma's dev doesn't like anomaly

[sand fiber]

Fallout is deeper than that, and actually has themes and narratives unlike stalker

[verbal hemlock]

you can’t miss the point of Stalker if there is no point

[sleek tundra]

I'd argue that it only does this right a handful of times

This is coming from a guy who loved fnv more than OG stalker games

[sand fiber]

In terms of themes and political discussions Stalker lost a lot from all the cutting out, but it's still a cultural imprint

And a heavy one for sure

[sleek tundra]

Too bad both games have a lot of gameplay issues

If I wanted a good story I'd read a book, because even games with the best stories have to sacrifice a couple of things to make it fit into a game (although some stories could only be told using games)

[verbal hemlock]

Fo2 does something similar to what Stalker does. There’s no main theme but a lot of smaller themes present in each location/local conflict. Modoc, Vault City+Gecko, Vault City+NCR+New Reno, etc. in Stalker you see this with things like Duty+Freedom (though it’s not as deep as it could be unfortunately)

[sand fiber]

mhm FNV is bringing up like lots of themes and discussions, idk about F2 though

[sleek tundra]

I disagree with some fnv writing decisions

The legion had a lot of cut content

[verbal hemlock]

I disagree with how badly they botched The Legion.

[sand fiber]

I wouldn't say FNV is the first one to do so, because all of 90-ies CRPGs exist, but it's one of the best

[sand fiber]

In what sense?

[sleek tundra]

It's the best one that tried to do that in a 3d open world engine, and probably the only

[sand fiber]

I hate you Wolf

[sand fiber]

disco elysium

IT'S 3D IT TECHNICALLY QUALIFIES

[nimble cipher]

NozAr#0330 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

Savior DJ#5898 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[verbal hemlock]

what??? I double checked that man

[sand fiber]

In all seriousness, i'm a bit unsure, gotta check some of my lists

[sleek tundra]

There aren't many, if any, open world games that tried to show the world rebuilding itself and society politics

[verbal hemlock]

anyway my point was that the Legion was originally meant to be much more nuanced and complex than they ended up being. Their exaggerated brutality and misogyny reduced them to borderline comic book villains and made the NCR the obvious good guy, which downplays the NCR’s own massive problems (and I’m not talking about taxes)

[sand fiber]

he dies in a campfire in soc for a good reason y'know

[verbal hemlock]

Josh Sawyer has even commented that they botched the Legion really badly and they weren’t meant to be that brutal and unredeemable

[verbal hemlock]

lmao

[coarse reef]

oh god they're talking about fallout again

[verbal hemlock]

my problem with The Legion is that for the reasons I just described and some other things they just don’t stand on their own merits. They exist to further the NCR’s character development which is a big issue, even though I think NCR should be the more compelling faction.

[verbal hemlock]

look it’s ok we’re connecting Stalker’s themes to Fallout’s we have a good reason 🤧

[sand fiber]

Idk about that, i think Legion is complex enough as far as it goes for a religious fascist community, it goes fairly deep into the worldview and perception of Ceasar and legion members simultaneously bringing up some other themes

[sleek tundra]

We needed more legion member viewpoints

[verbal hemlock]

There is some good writing in the Legion like the stuff you’re describing, but it’s ruined for most people by their exaggerated brutality and misogyny. the idea is good, the execution is not

pretty much the only redeemable argument for the Legion is two characters saying “the roads are safe!!!” and that doesn’t come close to balancing them out

[outer lichen]

is there a patch for CoP that fixes graphical bugs?

[sleek tundra]

They don't have to be balanced out

[sand fiber]

Graphical bugs in CoP?

[outer lichen]

yh im getting some rn

[sleek tundra]

Some factions could be bad for the sake of being bad

[sand fiber]

^^^

[outer lichen]

areas are black up until you walk into them

[sleek tundra]

Not everything has to be morally grey

[sand fiber]

God yes, at least you understand that

[worthy lagoon]

Which dynamic lighting are you using?

[verbal hemlock]

maybe, but not in the Mojave. A mega-conflict like the one in the Mojave should not be black-and-white

Sawyer has talked about this before

[sleek tundra]

It's not black and white it's black and white with grey

[outer lichen]

where do you find that

[sleek tundra]

The followers are doing good stuff because they think it's good with the only disadvantage being that they don't have enough resources

[verbal hemlock]

if it’s fully black on one side, the other side might as well be fully white. The Legion’s comic villainy makes people forget about the NCR’s problems

[worthy lagoon]

Take a screenshot of the settings and send it in #💬┃en_offtop

[limpid salmon]

Stalker, stop talking about fallout, the zone needs you

[worthy lagoon]

The graphics settings obv

[verbal hemlock]

you don’t want me in the zone I will manipulate the geopolitics of the duty-freedom conflict to ensure that both are wiped out so neither can do any more harm 🤧

[sleek tundra]

That's a good thing, it's making people hate the legion without questioning why. They don't realize the Faction's weak points because they're biased and just want to fight bad people

[coarse reef]

My favorite part of the game was when the man in the checkered suit says "Hope this interaction doesn't lead to any kind of fallout between us.... Fallout New Vegas"

[verbal hemlock]

my favorite part is when Benny Fallout said “New Vegas”

[pseudo rivet]

My favorite part is when I uninstalled NV and installed F3 instead

[verbal hemlock]

Half W Half L because I am apparently one of the only people on the planet that’s capable of loving both of them despite their flaws

Fallout 4 wishes that Downtown Boston was half as good as Downtown D.C

[pseudo rivet]

I think you might be right

[limpid salmon]

Fallout isn't bad, its kinda mid

[pseudo rivet]

Hella mid, yeah

[verbal hemlock]

fallout is a franchise full of unrecognized potential

[sand fiber]

Half of the entire game is spent on dealing with the fact that NCR is also shit, i mean
It's not black and white, it's black and black, you're choosing the lesser evil

And people can be wrong, people can hold racist, misogynistic and homophobic ideas. Legion is misogynistic because those are Ceasars beliefs, and FNV explores that, why and how a human can come to such beliefs and consider them good

[verbal hemlock]

if fallout 3 recognized half of it’s unrealized potential it would be one of the greatest games ever made lol

[pseudo rivet]

Even their own devs don't know whack

[pseudo rivet]

NCR lesseresterest evil, tbf

[limpid salmon]

I've seen more bugs in 2 new Fallout games than in all 3 Stalker games

[sand fiber]

eh, there could never be potential from designers of Oblivion

[verbal hemlock]

god ikr

[pseudo rivet]

This

Fallout mid, setting is neat

[limpid salmon]

if the devs weren't that bad, the game would have been better

[verbal hemlock]

it’s funny when you realize that the only pieces of Bethesda Fallout that have definitively good writing are the DLCs that weren’t written by Emil (Pitt, Point Lookout, Far Harbor, Fo76 background lore)

[pseudo rivet]

Could be alright for tabletop, but it's just too small of a specialized community for a tabletop game that's just ultimately created as a cashgrab

[verbal hemlock]

dude really wrote one of the best questlines ever in Oblivion and immediately became bad once they promoted him to lead writer

[sand fiber]

point lookout? That DLC for F3?

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah

[sleek tundra]

Because they're based

[limpid salmon]

yea, also its literally for westerners, all easy telling you where everything thing, what everything does

[verbal hemlock]

point lookout is the one I’d remove from that list if I had to but I enjoyed the writing. it’s not a strong main story but it’s enjoyable

[sleek tundra]

Caesar is my mind of man, its even funnier because he has low intelligence. Most based mojave character and he's dumb as hell

[pseudo rivet]

Point Lookout pretty bad, ngl

[verbal hemlock]

The Pitt and Far Harbor are the real ones that have pretty great writing. If you turned The Pitt into a full game it’d be something

[pseudo rivet]

Operation Anchorage also based

[limpid salmon]

Fallout 76 is just Fallout 4 online

[sand fiber]

i mean the pitt was uhhhh much more interesting than the whole game but point lookout was... i don't know, mid but like just slightly better mid than the base game?

[pseudo rivet]

F76 DLC

[coarse reef]

i played fallout new vegas for an hour and half, got bored, refunded it

[limpid salmon]

lot of recycled textures and sounds

[verbal hemlock]

I did not enjoy the Pitt “expedition” for 76

[pseudo rivet]

I wish, I want the stuff that's in F76 to be in F4

[sand fiber]

I will kiss you once again

[verbal hemlock]

very poorly structured

[sand fiber]

But i remember getting bored in Goodsprings too

[pseudo rivet]

Horny simp asf

[limpid salmon]

FO4 style scrap storage in 76

[coarse reef]

😘

[sand fiber]

It was some miracle that one evening i decided to progress further and actually pay attention

[limpid salmon]

"pay me money to store your junk and scraps, montly"

[pseudo rivet]

Also, F76 does have new textures

[verbal hemlock]

mfers will call NV’s opening boring and then go “Wow!!! I love the Cordon!!!”

[limpid salmon]

yes but some are reused, animations and such are very similar to FO4

[pseudo rivet]

It's kinda ridiculous that porting stuff from F76 to F4 is illegal

[limpid salmon]

Cordon my beloved

[coarse reef]

maybe i'll try it again someday but i doubt my adhd will allow it

[pseudo rivet]

Cordon my beloved

[sand fiber]

eeeeeeeh i mean when i booted up SoC i immediately knew it's gonna be the best game ever

[worthy lagoon]

Starfield is just Fallout 4 but space

[pseudo rivet]

F3 had a way better opening

[sand fiber]

it was one of my first ones tbh, but so was NV

[limpid salmon]

Never played it

[verbal hemlock]

Zaton is the best opening of the three

[pseudo rivet]

Mid asf

[sand fiber]

I just love how fast you start the game, it's amazing

[sleek tundra]

Its a general game issue, not just relates to fnv

[remote karma]

cordon my beloved army checkpoint

[sleek tundra]

CoP?

[sand fiber]

Just like in SoC

[verbal hemlock]

Degtyarev spends all of 5 minutes in the zone and already he’s manipulating all of the factions to his own benefit

[remote karma]

chad grindset

[sleek tundra]

Degtyarev is built different

[pseudo rivet]

We call that "Failure of game design"

[coarse reef]

my biggest problem with fallout was how goddamn slow you are

[sand fiber]

of course you have adhd and blue hair and pronounce

[verbal hemlock]

Scar takes orders, Degtyarev gives them 🤧

[coarse reef]

wrong i actually dont have blue hair

[pseudo rivet]

Tf you saying, Degtyarev is a bottom as well bro

[verbal hemlock]

actually scratch that half of CoP is Degtyarev being an errand boy for Kolawsky

they’re lucky I enjoy helping the stingray survivors or I would send a strongly worded letter to GSC about their game design

[sleek tundra]

Not really, general problem with most games. The middle is always better than the beginning l

[sand fiber]

f3 starts with a giant boring sequence and then makes you do busywork in megaton, goodsprings compared to that is an amazingly designed place

But i have to agree, they could've done Sunny's training quests better

[sleek tundra]

No, it has more woman than f3 megaton

[verbal hemlock]

Fallout 3 dies in the second half of the game (where it should open up like NV does, instead you’re treated to 2 half decent dungeons and a Michael Bay final battle). Fallout New Vegas hits its stride and then some in the second half.

[sleek tundra]

Michael Bay final battle lmao

[verbal hemlock]

F3 has a better first half, FNV has a better second half

[limpid salmon]

good games dont have women in them

[verbal hemlock]

least-misogynistic duty soldier

[remote karma]

real

[limpid salmon]

how real?

[verbal hemlock]

twice as real as duty’s chances of winning the war

[remote karma]

very real

[verbal hemlock]

(nobody wins the war)

[limpid salmon]

least idiotic fallout raider (I have an explosive combat shotgun)

[sleek tundra]

Least misogynistic stalker*

[remote karma]

wrong (i do)

[verbal hemlock]

one of my favorite storylines in Stalker is how you progressively see Duty and Freedom decline due over time due to the war. From the height of their power in Clear Sky to a handful of squads in Call of Pripyat

[sand fiber]

game theory: strelok is a girl

[verbal hemlock]

all the fighting and death and neither side wins

[remote karma]

true

[verbal hemlock]

very true, Strelok, Scar, and Deggy make a lot of money off the suffering of Duty and Freedom lol

[remote karma]

ye real

[spring abyss]

You know want? Scar is the best stalker character eve made, and that's it 😎

[limpid salmon]

seems realistic enough

[coarse reef]

transitioning couldve saved her

[limpid salmon]

[remote karma]

strely has a EMBARASSING secret that he hopes CCON doesnt LEARN about

[verbal hemlock]

duty and freedom fighting a war where nobody wins and they both continually decline into nothing is straight up one of the most compelling stories in the entire trilogy

[sand fiber]

well, i bet there are lots more troops at warehouses/bar, it's just that cop happens in the center of zone

[verbal hemlock]

reminds me of the story in Far Cry 2

[verbal hemlock]

maybe, but my analysis of the writing in CoP is that they’re both meant to be in very bad decline

[spring abyss]

Whe killed lukash, it's a solid victory

[limpid salmon]

Objective: Kill Strelok

[verbal hemlock]

I killed Skull after he left Duty and became a mercenary, I am real winner

Skull leaving Duty and becoming a mercenary where he can do as much sadistic stuff as he wants is the least surprising thing ever

[sand fiber]

Mm, i mean it does that but not on a full faction scale

[verbal hemlock]

we also see a clear decline from CS —-> SoC

[spring abyss]

Skull is a spy on the mercs

[limpid salmon]

Freedom's 3429475th order of "herb"

[spring abyss]

He still is our boy

[verbal hemlock]

least-high freedom member

[verbal hemlock]

I believe you mean “was”

[remote karma]

freedomer when pda has freedom x mutant vid

[verbal hemlock]

he ain’t anybody now 🤧

[sand fiber]

Tbh not much themes are explored in the whole Duty vs Freedom deal, all the interesting stuff about Duty for example is basically formed out of cut content and concepts

[limpid salmon]

bloodsucker-tentacles.jpg

[verbal hemlock]

yeah they don’t go very much into it, it’s more of an implied thing

[coarse reef]

oh fnv is on sale for 2 and half euro, maybe i'll try it again

[sand fiber]

And i believe to analyse stalker like this is kinda wrong

[limpid salmon]

typical renegade

[verbal hemlock]

steam sale is overpowered. You could get the entire Stalker, Metro, Half Life, and Portal franchises for $30 bucks lol

[limpid salmon]

you can buy the valve complete pack or whatever, 100+ € worth of games for like 7€

[verbal hemlock]

preparing for the inevitable backlash from mentioning Metro here

[verbal hemlock]

generally yeah, but to me the decline of both factions over the course of the trilogy is a pretty worthwhile theme

[sand fiber]

It's much more nuanced, you must consider the devs, the political and cultural situation in Ukraine, and all the other stuff, you can't read it like you read Fallout for example

[coarse reef]

i'll have to download a faster sprint mod or something cause goddamn

[remote karma]

real

[verbal hemlock]

you can change your walk/run speed via console commands

personally I never thought it was too slow but I definitely understand why you do

[sand fiber]

it kinda is about nothing? like even no complaints about that from regular soldiers

[coarse reef]

hello i am not a computer wizard?

[sand fiber]

there's a groundwork for such themes

[verbal hemlock]

oh no it’s easy I promise

[limpid salmon]

google

[verbal hemlock]

if you can install mods you can use console commands I promise 🤧

[coarse reef]

im joking

[limpid salmon]

pinky promise?

[verbal hemlock]

pinky swear

[sand fiber]

Oh my god i remembered how i spent 1,5 hours in console trying to fix Khans-NCR quests

[limpid salmon]

broken game

[sand fiber]

It was something about doing things in wrong order

[limpid salmon]

Dev Issue

[sand fiber]

Yeah, that was like pretty bad

[verbal hemlock]

if my dumbass could change Clear Sky’s code to make the renegades stop infinitely respawning in the northern half of the swamps, you can console command the walk speed

(I learned later that a mod already existed to do it but I was proud of myself)

[coarse reef]

ok steam says i played 6 minutes of fnv and that's definitely wrong

[verbal hemlock]

oh yeah steam doesn’t read 3 or NV properly

well, unless you jump through some hoops but most of the time it doesn’t

99% sure steam only reads your time in the launcher

[sand fiber]

adhd be like

[spring abyss]

You already saw all, that's enough

[verbal hemlock]

you have my solemn pledge that New Vegas only really starts once you leave Goodsprings. Primm and NCRCF are right down the road 🤧

(most people don’t even know NCRCF has a quest because they all side with goodsprings and alienate the powder gangers before going there)

[sand fiber]

actually just go to strip and kill house immediately

[viscid mason]

💀

[coarse reef]

i have no idea what any of this means

[spring abyss]

Do the revolver bug

[verbal hemlock]

kill yes man with a laser/plasma weapon and make sure he turned into ash/goo so he can’t respawn, then wipe out the other three factions and softlock yourself

[sand fiber]

go to an ancap las vegas and kill THE libertarian

[signal tusk]

yes

[verbal hemlock]

(actual game mechanic btw)

[remote karma]

kiss house

[coarse reef]

i can kill libertarians and ancaps in this game? downloading rn

[verbal hemlock]

New Vegas: Where you can murder people of every political ideology

[sand fiber]

there's only one unfortunately but you can kill nazis

[coarse reef]

what's the difference?

[sand fiber]

in giant amounts

[coarse reef]

[verbal hemlock]

you can kill soldiers that are half-ww1, half-vietnam era looking mfers

mfw the NCR has WW1 apparel and Vietnam guns, perfect

[sand fiber]

Did you just say NCR look kinda like vietnam usa soldiers?

Oh my god for real

[verbal hemlock]

WW1 apparel, vietnam guns, vietnam attitude

[spring abyss]

Go to the frontier, is the best mod ever made that's for sure

[remote karma]

uh huh

[coarse reef]

ip grabber

[verbal hemlock]

Mojave is basically NCR’s version of Vietnam, but the real problem will be if the Legion invades them and it turns into NCR’s 9/11 or Pearl Harbor

[spring abyss]

@worthy lagoon whe need adult supervision here

[sand fiber]

real

[worthy lagoon]

!ban @agile thistle

[nimble cipher]

🚫 Kuro [EN/ITA], you can't use that.

[remote karma]

L

[worthy lagoon]

Oh

[coarse reef]

epic mod fail

[sand fiber]

[spring abyss]

YOU HAVE NO POWER KURO

[worthy lagoon]

Manual ban it is

[nimble cipher]

Sylky#5506 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[verbal hemlock]

most effective duty soldier

[spring abyss]

Go find some ramdom side quest

[verbal hemlock]

if duty is so powerful why do they need

1. Strelok to blow up a wall and kill a single sniper for them
2. Scar to free them from being trapped in Agroprom
3. Deggy to expose their corrupt Lieutenant

[remote karma]

well
cus

[spring abyss]

Bc the devs need to do something for the player do

[verbal hemlock]

oh that’s another thing I liked about the decline of Duty-Freedom. In CoP Duty is reduced to having one of their main lieutenants sell entire stockpiles of their weaponry to bandits.

[sand fiber]

i mean, only strelok has a knife that can blow up walls

[spring abyss]

But if the game was realistic, the duty would be already solved the zone problem a long time ago

[verbal hemlock]

stop making sense

[spring abyss]

Was just a stash, you random quests arguments got no power here

[remote karma]

that mfing knife is probably the most powerful thing in the zone

[verbal hemlock]

dutyers when freedom stops defending the wall against the monolith and passes the task over to them:

[spring abyss]

"wow no more monoliths i. The zone"

[coarse reef]

and BTRs

[sand fiber]

i remember some antimemetic scp object similar to strelok's knife

[verbal hemlock]

nah I’m just screwing around I love Duty and Freedom

[sand fiber]

like unironically

[verbal hemlock]

Freedom has Ashot and Yar though, who in Duty can compete with that?

[remote karma]

that goober where you cant hurt the guy who weilds it

[coarse reef]

i have no idea what sort of spaghetti code made the knife be the most powerful explosive in game

[spring abyss]

Veronin, Petrenko, and strelok

[verbal hemlock]

these are things that should be studied in game design classes

[spring abyss]

[verbal hemlock]

I like Petrenko

[remote karma]

me

[sand fiber]

i think it was more like no one else can perceive the knife or damage inflicted by it and it drove the owner crazy

[verbal hemlock]

Petrenko in SoC is dope, he’s also one of the few characters who gets better in Anomaly

[sand fiber]

or maybe those were separate

[remote karma]

probably

[coarse reef]

Steam has finished downloading Fallout: New Vegas PCR

[sand fiber]

or maybe qntm mentioned an antimemetic knife somewhere in the tales

[coarse reef]

Does it come with a free PCR test?

[sand fiber]

who knows, i read that in russian

[remote karma]

scp lore

[verbal hemlock]

I wonder if the NCR troopers at the second battle of Hoover Dam wear masks because they’re dodging COVID

mfw memory consumption was such an issue in 2010 that both factions at the last battle have to wear masks rather than have animated faces

[sand fiber]

Oh its the cursed region locked version

[coarse reef]

what's wrong with it

[verbal hemlock]

oh yeah PCR. isn’t it censored?

[sand fiber]

Poland Czechia Russia

[coarse reef]

is anything different in the game

[verbal hemlock]

I will check

[sand fiber]

similar to dishonoreds Russia Hungary Czechia Poland version

We need to execute higher ups of Bethesda

by the way have you got the dlcs???

[coarse reef]

no

[spring abyss]

Bethesda city be like: Bethesda city

[verbal hemlock]

mfw we might have to wait 8 years for Fallout 5 and it will still stink

[remote karma]

poland (femboy) czechia (drunk) russia (russia)

[sand fiber]

get them if you'll get interested in the game they're so cool

[coarse reef]

poland (femboy) czechia (femboy) russia (femboy)

[spring abyss]

No more fallouts, fallout is already dead

[sand fiber]

Arguably best DLCs in the entire industry

[remote karma]

real

[spring abyss]

Fallout 2 part 2 pls

[verbal hemlock]

Dead Money and Old World Blues are next level. Honest Hearts is OK but carried by Graham. Lonesome Road’s story was botched terribly

[coarse reef]

ok looks like there isnt anything different in the game, it just looks like bethesda is racist toward slavs

[verbal hemlock]

that’s just literally New Vegas

[spring abyss]

NO GET OUT HERE

[nimble cipher]

Sylky#5506 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

Sylky#5506 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[spring abyss]

Ultra combo

[coarse reef]

maybe if i like it

[verbal hemlock]

Unlike Fallout 2, New Vegas has a good main story, not just great side quests

[sand fiber]

Lonesome Road is one giant dialogue with Ulysses, its kinda cool considering he actually has things to say and that previous DLC endings built up for this

[spring abyss]

Does it have Frank horrigan? No? Than it's a bad game at all

[verbal hemlock]

my problem is that they botched his character. I hate that they made the divide the fault of the Courier before we even controlled them instead of the fault of the NCR and the Legion. It ruins Ulysses’ character from the start. he hates us for something we the player didn’t even do.

It should be a near-endgame dlc and Ulysses should be roasting the Courier for their actions in the Mojave, not something that our protagonist supposedly did accidentally before we even controlled them

[sand fiber]

I honestly don't remember the whole deal, but wasn't Ulysses mistaken, and if not, wasn't that kind of the point of that DLC's narrative?

[verbal hemlock]

If it weren’t for memory consumption issues, Ulysses as a base game companion would’ve been way better. A companion who challenges you on your beliefs and actions no matter who you side with

[verbal hemlock]

no, he was right. The divide was the courier’s fault, which is a massive writing mistake

the deal with Ulysses should’ve been “Look at what the NCR and Legion did to my home, now look at what they’re about to do to yours”. instead he has this hatred for the courier that isn’t compelling at all

[sand fiber]

uhhh but it was like we can do fate changing things without ever realising the significance of our actions or something along that

actually i just don't know, i should replay that

[verbal hemlock]

that’s not a bad idea, but the fact that it wasn’t something we the player even did ruins any chance of that message getting through.

I’d compare it even to the hallucination sequence in Point Lookout. As short and small as it is, that sequence guilt-trips us and our character for things that we were actually present for. just based off of that, it’s more impactful than Ulysses guilt tripping us over something we were never responsible for

[spring abyss]

Fallout 3 🤮🤮

[sand fiber]

Well
I don't think it'd be possible to do without establishing that main character worked as a Courier before the platinum chip

[coarse reef]

ok time to go through goodsprings and get bored again and refund the game again because steam didnt count my playtime

[remote karma]

L

[spring abyss]

Based new vegas fan:

[sand fiber]

Or was it ambiguous on that? Like you could decide for yourself whether Ulysses is right and Courier really did couriered that thing whatever it was or is he just mistaken

Alr im just making up stuff based on my vague memories of the 4 years old playthrough at this point

I'm going to stop

[sand fiber]

Wait does that mean you can complete the game in less than 14 days and still get a refund

free new vegas real

[coarse reef]

if you can finish it in 2 hours sure

[remote karma]

nv speed run

[rotund fox]

Why are you troglodytes discussing fallout lore here

[sand fiber]

but you said steam doesn't count the hours

[spring abyss]

No way, you guis need more taxes, do the ncr ending

[sand fiber]

We've been doing that for 2 days straight

[coarse reef]

idk it didn't count them for me

[sand fiber]

you can discuss new vegas endlessly

[spring abyss]

Let's talk about the mortal Kombat lore and why shao kan did nothing wrong

[sand fiber]

mortal kombat lore

What's next, virtual fighter lore?

[remote karma]

scp lore

[spring abyss]

It's all a simulation

[pseudo rivet]

How can your opinions be so unbased?

[sand fiber]

depends

[sand fiber]

I'm sorry, it's you whose opinions are so unbased

[pseudo rivet]

Says the unbased Noelle enjoyer

[remote karma]

entire lore

[sand fiber]

Says the unbased... idk what's on your pfp, from the distance it looks like E.Y.E poster

[pseudo rivet]

[spring abyss]

Divine ptsd kicks in

[sand fiber]

some hubs are so shit

i mean like extremely

[spring abyss]

Ahhh i need to upgrade my hack three, where is my tank character? Alll too many system shock references, sylky is dead

[sand fiber]

i need to play that game

[pseudo rivet]

It do B a blessed Nod Commander from the TW3-era

[sand fiber]

visually speaking it looks like a fever dream of a hl2 mod and i heard there's some good story too

[sand fiber]

from what

[remote karma]

i dont even know what those are

[pseudo rivet]

C&C

[sand fiber]

Canon Hubs

like you know omega death, antimemetics division

[sand fiber]

the mobile games?

[pseudo rivet]

Hella nah

[remote karma]

nope

[pseudo rivet]

C&C3, an actual good RTS game

[sand fiber]

Read them then

[remote karma]

what if i want to keep my brain cells

[sand fiber]

i NEED someone with whom i can discuss Foundation

do it

[remote karma]

real

[remote karma]

scp sl lore

[rotund fox]

Women can't play RTS games idk why you're bothering to explain

[pseudo rivet]

True, although he's just a guy

[sand fiber]

I spent like 600 hours in gmod playing scp breach

[rotund fox]

Idk if he is or isn't point is It's taste is awful

[pseudo rivet]

True

[sand fiber]

Should probably try SL

[sand fiber]

who

[hazy helm]

Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 is good tbh

[sand fiber]

dats a lie i played homeworld

[pseudo rivet]

You

[sand fiber]

nope i'm a girl

[pseudo rivet]

Okay dude

[sand fiber]

also spore counts

[pseudo rivet]

Cadia broke before the Guard did

[remote karma]

i spent 600 on scp sl

[sand fiber]

bigot crimson real

[rotund fox]

Oh no

[pseudo rivet]

Your words, not mine

[rotund fox]

Is it a man that thinks it's a woman? So sad

Another soul lost to globohomo

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, this

[sand fiber]

what

[pseudo rivet]

Duder who she/her'd himself

[remote karma]

shes a trans girl

[sand fiber]

crimson are you a fvcking transphobe

[rotund fox]

Just when you think it couldn't be more over, you find a new bottom

[pseudo rivet]

Oh nah, I'm a gamer

[sand fiber]

those are interchangable

[pseudo rivet]

Says the gamer

Anyways, I'mma head out

Cya guys later

[sand fiber]

[pseudo rivet]

Gonna watch Ninjago

[rotund fox]

It explains why he bothered to play Homeworld i guess

[sand fiber]

based

[sand fiber]

she

[limpid salmon]

she?

[sand fiber]

yea

[remote karma]

nozar is a trans woman

[sleek tundra]

Yes he is, I'm also transphobic

It's nothing personal, I just don't like transformers

[sleek tundra]

Bigot everyone

My sister in Allah you're surrounded by Eastern Europeans

[verbal hemlock]

why don’t you guys just refer to her by whatever she wants to be referred to as. calling her “he” is actually going out of your way to be an asshole

[remote karma]

☝️

[sleek tundra]

They're pronouns, they shouldn't cause that much drama

[coarse reef]

Just don't be an asshole it's not that hard

[sleek tundra]

Misgendering is an asshole move

1984

[coarse reef]

where the heck is the fricking xander root

nvm found it

[verbal hemlock]

pro tip check the spot around your grave there’s some ‘evidence’ of your shooting that can help you later

[sleek tundra]

Fnv player

[verbal hemlock]

gives some cool dialogue later

[coarse reef]

ok

[sleek tundra]

Preparing controversial opinion

ahem

The legion is the best choice for the mojave

[remote karma]

K

[sleek tundra]

Based

[remote karma]

Y

And S

[sleek tundra]

Thanks

We all gotta stay safe during these trying times

[remote karma]

Yes
♥️

[polar fern]

I hate whatever this is now and whatever it was before

[remote karma]

ok

[polar fern]

I dont hate you tho you like watermelon

[remote karma]

🤗

[left sparrow]

Man, the Pripyat mission to reach Chernobyl is impossible

[remote karma]

In soc?

[left sparrow]

Yeh

[remote karma]

Its pretty easy

[viscid mason]

Yes

But i have played it on rokkie dificulty

[remote karma]

After arriving in the car park its a straight shot to the pripyat hotel stash

[left sparrow]

But when I left the cauterizer I had few bullets and I couldn't go to 100 rads to buy more

[remote karma]

Cauterizer?

[left sparrow]

The monolith camp

[remote karma]

You can go back to bar
You just have to make it through all of pripyat and Red forrest

Did You go into the stadium? Not sure If You can return from there to bar

[polar fern]

Aaaaaaa

[remote karma]

What has happend

[solid dome]

Destroyal

[solid dome]

The Zone has hungover

[remote karma]

Yeah

[limpid salmon]

yurr

[spring abyss]

[remote karma]

How did You get expert ecologist rank

[limpid salmon]

#🧀-yantar

[spring abyss]

Sakharov buys he's pseudodog furr

[remote karma]

Real to both

[frail spire]

why doesn't he just quits the internet and touches some grass lmao

[dry imp]

literally go outside

[verbal hemlock]

once again going out of your way to be an asshole to people lol. just treat people like human beings man, no idea why this community has such a problem with that. being Eastern European is not an excuse to be an asshole

[frail spire]

they're free to leave

no one has the obligation to accommodate him nor her nor it or whatever it identifies as

what if instead of making a scene he just goes "ok no one cares" and keeps going like a normal person would

[polar fern]

Ø

[frail spire]

instead of dragging this whole issue which should be in off topic

[polar fern]

@hybrid bone

[spring abyss]

Help bro i can't breath, too much baseded in the air

But well what happened here?

[dry imp]

nah

[dry imp]

he cant breef

[spring abyss]

It's easy to learn all you need to do is to find some grandma to make you free breads 🍞

[solid dome]

I'm so mad

I'm bouta explode

[dry imp]

ambatukahm

[solid dome]

Literally was second away from punching the monitor

My precious DELL boy!

Was playing the most hard total conversion mod ever and I was stuck repeating a section for 30 minutes until I ALT+F4 out of it

Old man doesn't have the nerve to keep trying

I can't remember the last time I ALT+F4 out of a game...

[solid dome]

I once broke a keyboard to tiny pieces, I recall IBM one, 2 decades ago or so

Literally angry german kid moment

[dry imp]

man you're old

wait how old are you

[solid dome]

How old you think I am if I talk IBM keyboards, lmao

[sleek tundra]

He may or may not have a family

[solid dome]

Harsh

Trash analysis

[spring abyss]

Don't play unreal tournament

This happened to me once

[solid dome]

I haven't played UT in AGES

[sleek tundra]

Why?

Either way you can't, EPIC KILLED IT

Thankfully the singleplayer unreal gold - one of the best FPs campaigns if you install the evolution mod- is still available since its mostly offline

[hazy helm]

JUST pirate the games from GOG and use the patches made by the community

[sleek tundra]

Couldn't find one for UT 2004

[hazy helm]

and I dont care if it's against TOS
It's against my honour to let Epic get away with this charade

[sleek tundra]

I just played with bots and mods

[spring abyss]

The German angry kid meme was playing unreal t

[sleek tundra]

Gotta focus on fortnite after all, degenerates

[spring abyss]

Kids them: ut, cs
Kids today: fortinite

💀

But anyway i don't think ut today would have a player space, look the new quake arena the game is already dead

[sleek tundra]

Unreal has advantages over other FPS games

[hazy helm]

DO I CARE
it's not about it being big it's about preservation and not destroying the fun for the ones taht are still around
Epic having Fortnite makes it inexcusable to trash the UT servers bc these servers are very VERY cheap to maintain and keep running and Fortnite is really really big

[sleek tundra]

Which is actually being unique by having good weapon design, something i can't say for almost all recent games

That's not the worst part

Why pull the plug on unreal gold? The game is primarily a singleplayer game

The campaign there is the main selling point, and with only one mod you can make it a masterpiece and fix the remaining flaws

[spring abyss]

are probaly some fan servers somewhere

[hazy helm]

for UT2k4?out of luck bucko

the ONLY reason Epic would have to delist the game is for the sake of dessecrating the body of UT to make a quick buck

either shoehorning references into fortnite in the form of skins and such that,no one that plays that game would care or understand,or to lock exclusivety of them into EGS so they can harvest your data and get your telemetry

both are very bad

[sleek tundra]

Vadim, UT4 will get removed from your library on January 24

I doubt they're doing this to make the epic games store the only way to get the games

I'm not sure if they'd remove it or not but it'll either get removed or the won't allow multiplayer there

[hazy helm]

UT4 wasnt even released it was a alpha,almost not even that,version 0.1.1.4
it's on github,all developers in the project were pulled in 2018 to fortnite
no one wants UT4,no one cares

[sleek tundra]

UT4 wasn't a bad game, just unfinished

[hazy helm]

like I said,you can do literally nothing about it
to commit changes on the Github they need to be approved by a developer and those developers are working on fortnite
no one is working on UT4

[sleek tundra]

It had some features that should've been in the original games, like dodge button

[hazy helm]

like I said,no one cares,they can do nothing

[dry imp]

34

[sleek tundra]

Close enough

[solid dome]

👀

[dry imp]

wait was i right

[sleek tundra]

Either you were right or he still thinks 34 is funny because pornography

Both options are a win-win for you, one means you nailed the coffin and the other is a good way to mock him

[dry imp]

@solid dome how tall are you

[split heath]

Do you guys think that stalker 2 will come out like how cyberpunk did or do you think it'll get delayed or even canned outright

[hazy helm]

it'll probs come out with spaghetti code and poorly optimized around 2024 or 2025 if I had to bet

[frail spire]

also no mod support aside being able to change gun skins

[spring abyss]

Minimum specs 64gb of ram gtx 100000 and intel i9

[spring abyss]

That's one way to prevent a anomaly 2

[hazy helm]

another way to prevent CokC 2

[frail spire]

GTXXX 69

[spring abyss]

CocK is already reality, sylky is iust my fake account bc in reality I am a GSC dev

Cock 2 as dlc for stalker 2

Only 1000 dollars

??????

[rotund fox]

Game is awful
Everyone forgets about it in a month, only remembering it every now and then to make fun of it

[hazy helm]

wut?

[spring abyss]

@worthy lagoon analysis

[hazy helm]

probably a kid

[limpid salmon]

as of CS, AK74/2 or AC96/2

[worthy lagoon]

What

[spring abyss]

A dude post a link

I'm in fear, take my hand

[limpid salmon]

I think he's promoting his channel

[hazy helm]

he's self promoting
like i said he's probs a kid

[spring abyss]

He should talk something

[limpid salmon]

cant even spell anarchist

[spring abyss]

One dude have done a similar thing by the morning

New account just send it a link and said nothing

[limpid salmon]

hasn't lost hope I see

[spring abyss]

[limpid salmon]

or

[worthy lagoon]

!kick @golden charm promoting his own YouTube channel in almost every channel

[nimble cipher]

🚫 Kuro [EN/ITA], you can't use that.

[limpid salmon]

c-consiousness made him do it

[worthy lagoon]

You what

Fine

I'll do it myself

[hazy helm]

\

[limpid salmon]

!kick @limpid salmon artefact

[nimble cipher]

🚫 I Am The Night, you can't use that.

[spring abyss]

Kuro got no powers in this realm

[verbal hemlock]

these people have balls of steel there is no way this game will be cancelled

half their team are actively developing out of a war zone literally nothing will stop them from making this game

[dense relic]

If I play a Monolith in Anomaly can I walk outside during a psy storm?

[coarse reef]

no

[finite dragon]

how's everyone doing?

[dry imp]

THEYRE IN MY WALLS

[nimble cipher]

Tampico#1776 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[finite dragon]

who is in your walls? monolith?

[dry imp]

THEYRE AFTER ME THEYRE TRYING TO GET ME THEY KNOW WHERE I AM I CANT LET THEM I WONT LET THEM

[nimble cipher]

Tampico#1776 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[finite dragon]

oh... not gud

sorry i am too busy to help a duty member.

[spring abyss]

💀

[limpid salmon]

he gona get sniped from nearest duty base

[polar fern]

A goldsphere 2 would be awesome

[worthy lagoon]

Please no

For the love of God

[polar fern]

Hve you played goldsphere?

[finite summit]

yes

[worthy lagoon]

Enough to make me hate it

I like the story, but the map design and the quests designs are just so ugly

[spring abyss]

try reborn

[worthy lagoon]

It forces you to collect every single thing in existence to actually have a chill experience, if the map design will not get you (it will)

[polar fern]

Till where did you play

[worthy lagoon]

The fact that certain tasks cannot be done without teleportation is stupid

[worthy lagoon]

CNPP

The story is really good

But Jesus Christ

STALKER is NOT a parkour game

Especially with Xray engine

Goldsphere is more like of a parkour game than anything else

Let's not talk about the anomalies

[polar fern]

It tries to do exploration that doesnt consist of throwing infinite bolts i find kinda cool

[solid dome]

Delete CoCk

[hazy helm]

can do

[solid dome]

Shut down Pornhub, CoCk deleted automatically

[finite summit]

You clearly haven't been looking for stashes in vanilla

[spring abyss]

you can't imma move to xnxx

[solid dome]

👀

[finite dragon]

[finite dragon]

goldsphere kind of looks fun

[delicate chasm]

Prove it

[spring abyss]

cop speedruns: wow that parkour game is great

[tiny olive]

Which other sniper rifles would fit for S.T.A.L.K.E.R?

It's really the most lacking gun category

[solid dome]

Meaning?

Stalker needs only SVD and nothing else

Maybe SVD + something lore unique

[sand fiber]

everything that can realistically be brought into zone