⭐┃nospoilers_general

[modest moth]

But it's all up to your preferences, if you like hard, tactical combat, Escape from Pripyat is your go-to mod. But if you like hardcore survivals then GAMMA is your pick

No, like, my PC is a potato with 10GB left

Sure it can run anomaly but it eats storage

[dry imp]

how big is your drive

[modest moth]

It used to be 300 GB, but for some reason when I got it (Second hand laptop moment) it already was just 50 GB

I plan on buying an external drive with 1-2TB on it

and a new headset because it got broken

[hazy helm]

honestly,it shouldnt matter that much for Xray Engine

it should be optimized for HDDs meaning its not dependant on that for preformance

[modest moth]

my mans

the game can't fit :(((((

if I try to download Gamma or something it would mean the end of the PC's life

[hazy helm]

I am just saying if you can download anomaly is should be able to run if you turn certain settings down if your pc is that bad

or I dunno just install Shadow of Chernobyl,better and less than 5 gigabytes

[modest moth]

i know i can run it, i had done that but man i really wanna check out these other mods

anyways, anyone wonder why SoC has a different vibe of Stalker than any other STALKER game?

[hazy helm]

clear sky has a more vibrant colour pallete and COP is the black sheep

[modest moth]

like the world of SoC feels more dry

[hazy helm]

like I said,CS had more of a colour pallete than SoC and CoP was more flat

SoC also used DX9 while CS and COP used newer DX version,even tho COP completely cut a lot of visual upgrades CS had to "optimize" it

[dry imp]

SoC honestly is the most immersive

[nimble cipher]

Krezzin#7223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[solid dome]

How so...

This bot serves no purpose

Freedom of speech doesn't exist

[limpid salmon]

just follow the rules

you anarchist

[balmy hound]

One main reason imo : there is no strong combat music starting when there is a gunfight. Only you and the hopeless world around you !

Strong music should be used especially on specific narrative purpose. Imo again.

[sand fiber]

because soc is the best one and the closest to the true stalker that oblivion lost is

[solid dome]

You don't need combat music, lol

See what happened with dynamic music in CS, everyone disliked it to death

[hazy helm]

musics cool but I honestly dont care much for the implementation it had,too rudimentary,would suit the game better if the changes were subtler and it was by area

[solid dome]

Dear STALKERS 🎸, please fill in the poll below if you didn't already and you care. Its couple interesting questions on topic of STALKER 2. Opinions wanted, opinions valued. Thanks.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScloAVwQUe-Jd0K_Pe1H9L-ldN9m4eA21Ndq8PuvdXrqiTxyg/viewform?usp=sf_link

[finite dragon]

is it confirmed we can be apart of factions or select a faction from the get go?

[hazy helm]

it is confirmed there wont be Faction Wars from Clear Sky

[finite dragon]

what about joining factions?

or like being reputable with a faction, like in call of pripyat where some dutiers would shoot you outside yanov if you had good rep with freedom

[hazy helm]

Im betting it'll be like SoC but we know nothing about the game yet

[finite dragon]

alright thank you

[nimble cipher]

PenumbralPeridoxide#9118 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[carmine crest]

ahhhhhhhh HAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I am going to lose my god damn mind

1 word.. ooooooooooooone word

[hazy helm]

you alright dood?

[carmine crest]

I wish my sentence wasn't immediately erased because I put an f bomb in there :(

as I was saying if anyone can run anomaly or its crummy spinoffs at max settings they have a nasa supercomputer. i play 1440 resolution and all 3 mainline games can stay above 144 refresh rate with very few drops below that range

i have no idea how those youtubers run the games like that, and stably too

[solid dome]

Anomaly isn't a game tho

[balmy hound]

Of course, actually I modified my message because the action musics we heard so far for Stalker 2 are really good, so I added some moderation in my thought of "no combat music" !

[balmy hound]

Really ? Even like an aftergame or a multiplayer mode ?

[hazy helm]

GSC told us in the locked channel that they would not bring back Faction Wars from Clear Sky,that was what they said

a shame,but nothing I can realistically do

[balmy hound]

Oh ok, we'll see when playing then. Thanks

It is probably that the story itself will be about some progression amongst factions.

[hazy helm]

preferably,SOC,bc I do not want another COP story and gameplay wise if Im gonna be honest

[balmy hound]

SOC is also my favourite 🙂

[solid dome]

We haven't even been confirmed if dynamic combat music is back or not, are you sure you're not talking some other game?

We haven't been confirmed anything about this game, it's a ghost production

[hazy helm]

we know some very minor stuff,you need to become detective to get those scraps and even then,its not enuff for anythin

[balmy hound]

I can't find it back, but I remember reading on the youtube page of Stalker 2's music "Storming" that it was purposely an action music (not necessarily a combat music system we think about).

The secret is very very well kept !

[dry imp]

the secret of the studio and if they are alive or not

[arctic rover]

Who knows, Maybe Grigorovich took the scissors once again? ✂️

[hardy bear]

one thing I noticed when I played anomaly was that the music would cut out right as an npc sees me, so it kind of serves the wrong purpose and makes me expect combat

anyways, I've got soc installed now, will probably only run the ZRP mod because I do want to be as vanilla as possible

I look forward to playing it when I have time :)

[balmy hound]

Wolf is playing Clear Sky

[balmy hound]

Anomaly is not canonical, so it doesn't count ! (this is my answer for not having played long enough to notice it)

[hardy bear]

it only happened once, the music didn't really seem to play all that often anyway

that reminds me actually

I saw some ost vids on the stalker channel that I haven't heard yet

[balmy hound]

on Youtube ?

[hardy bear]

ye

108 bit in the zone,

[balmy hound]

They're good ones

[hardy bear]

I hope we see some gameplay soon, but above all I hope GSC are safe

[balmy hound]

Yep

[hardy bear]

I just want them to take as long as they need. Too many franchises I'm into succumb to rushed launches

[hazy helm]

wolf is based after all

[mossy musk]

I don't know what it is about stalker, but it's terrible AI is so charming.

They are insanely intelligent but caveman stupid at the same time

I remember the AI of the military I was attacking were using legit tactics, taking cover and suppressing me while others moved to flank me

And then a little bit later a loner with a mosin walked up to monolith and shot all of them dead

The monolith didn't even move as they got shot 1 by 1

Their sheer idiocy and genius coding makes me love them so much

[fluid abyss]

yeah thats why I want the devs to re-make the old stalker ai in the new engine

[modest moth]

STALKER AI feels like they're good at ambushing and bamboozling you

[fluid abyss]

survival rule #1: never let them know your next move

[sand fiber]

never

[dry imp]

tbh stalker ai isnt that great

[modest moth]

yeah

but it has the illusion it has, but yeah they've killed me a lot of times by catching me off guard

[dry thorn]

If they had this type of ai in pubg people would cry

[hazy helm]

they already cry while playing Stalker

[rotund fox]

The AI is only good in the grand scheme of things, on a combat level it utterly blows ass. Doing things like causally walking across large swaths of nothing whilst getting shot at, coming in 1 by 1 through a choke hold and so on. It can only hope to exist when crap hits the fan thanks to excessive cheating which is a real tragedy.

[modest moth]

Man finally I pass the Pripyat Tunnels

RIP Zulu and Strider

The only Monolithian with a face

[hazy helm]

RIP XboxStalker

If only

[meager plover]

I mean the ones with cloths over their jaw somewhat show their face

[modest moth]

I mean a FULL face

[hazy helm]

@rotund fox you sure you dont mean a mod?from waht I remember even in the highest difficulty I was never one shot by a burers psypush

[frail spire]

If he means mods I remember once I played a mod where at the meadows it spawned like 10 burers who would constantly do like fire poltergeists and electrical discharges

Some wack ass stuff

[hazy helm]

how do we make this area difficult anon
10 burers,have them all have poltergeist and fire powers and wall hacks

[frail spire]

They would also stop grenades mid flight if you happened to fling them while they were doing their floating stuff

Also in the same map there would be a zombie swarm at the very back

Like 30 or 50 zombies that would insta aggro if you fired a round in their general direction

[hazy helm]

[worthy lagoon]

Still better than the Controller's and Burer's psy field in Misery

That was stupid

[hazy helm]

a lot of misery is dumb

[frail spire]

2 controllers spawn relatively close to eachother
instantly die
Nice totally not braindead design decisions guys!

[pseudo rivet]

Misery

[worthy lagoon]

Setting the price to 1000000000 RU for a piece of bread

"It's just hardcore experience!!11!"

The more hardcore it gets, the lower the IQ gets

[hazy helm]

lmao

[frail spire]

The hardcore-est it gets the less you play, just like irl

[rotund fox]

COP vanilla X8, yes

[pseudo rivet]

I mean, there's that room with extremely tanky Burers, but that's all

One time occurrence

[rotund fox]

Keep in mind thanks to the 500 iq Ukrainian computer engineers you can't kill them from the outside

So you run in and instantly die, over and over

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds about right

Just run faster

[rotund fox]

You can't they drain your stamina

[pseudo rivet]

Drain lesserder

[rotund fox]

Anyways yea stuff like that is why i want the psi blast gone

Also it doesn't make sense from a design perspective for a mutant to be good at both close and long range

[pseudo rivet]

Honestly, the only problem with that is just the room being able to tank their damage

Otherwise, it would be fairly doable

[pseudo rivet]

They're extremely weak at close range

[rotund fox]

Just remove the burer all together and add a damging psi aura to the poltergeists ala Misery if you don't want to compromise on the close range attack issue

[rotund fox]

Not when there is 2 or more of them

As is said they camped by the door at X8 and just waited for me to walk in

[pseudo rivet]

Thus, the problem is that specific room

[rotund fox]

Eh it would be a problem if it wasn't for the invincibility too

[dry imp]

skill issue

[placid cedar]

So when is stalker 2 dropping

[dry imp]

tomorrow

[placid cedar]

Yipee

[hazy helm]

2069

[placid cedar]

Mild delays

[frail spire]

Bro just throw a grenade

[placid cedar]

Truth

[rotund fox]

They
Can't
Die
In
X8
From
Outside

I dumped mag after mag into 1 and he just wouldn't die

and grenades, and grenades from the GL

[frail spire]

Then use a shotgun, an svd

Or just walk in, shoot them with a pistol, grab the documents and run away

Since they'll instantly shield themselves

[rotund fox]

Do me a favour and go replay COP, when you get to X8 let me know how it goes because i can't make you understand how difficult it is to exist in that room

It's literally something out of a soup mod

[dry imp]

its so haaaard guys im telling youuu

[frail spire]

I just shot them once really fast, grabbed the documents and ignored the room the rest of the trip

[modern mason]

Same

Except I didn't shoot them I just booked it

[frail spire]

Like yeah they can drain stamina bit you have a solid 4-5 second window if you shoot them all

[rotund fox]

The only way i managed to beat them is by getting all the props stuck and spamming grenades again which worked

But yea the fact i had to cheese it says it all tbh

[frail spire]

Do people forget in SoC you can ignore the agroprom controller or something?

[hazy helm]

I don't know why you would it's ez to kill him

[frail spire]

First time I played SoC it got me off guard and I didn't wanted to waste healing items nor ammo

So I just legged it

[rotund fox]

I don't like that he appears out of thin air(just a tad bit bullshtty imo) but he's no biggie

[cyan canopy]

It kinda scares me

I just ignore it

[rotund fox]

That section i had trouble with in OGSE thought cause he instantly disarms you

So you can't fight controllers in OGSE directly at all

[hazy helm]

OGSE and OGSR controllers are bad tho NGL lmao

Lmao

[rotund fox]

Yes, very

[modest moth]

Can't you just

knife them to death

[rotund fox]

There's 3 other burers there, all spamming the psi blast

[modest moth]

oh.

Well, good luck, maybe bait them to a corner one by one, try messing with the AI

[rotund fox]

That happened a while ago i already beat it ^

Was cancer to play through though

[modest moth]

STALKER can be cancer at times

Like cmon man the Snorks are basically smaller Chimeras

[rotund fox]

Chimeras are fixed snorks yes

[modest moth]

Why are there at least 9 OF THEM IN THE TUNNELS

9 SNORKS IN THE TUNNELS AND 5.56 BARELY DOES ANYTHING

[nimble cipher]

Lambda#7454 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[rotund fox]

Snorks in COP at least have this crappy feature where they can change their path mid air towards you

[modest moth]

Bro Snorks are just crappy at times

Honestly I'd take Monolith fighters than Snorks in the tunnels

[hazy helm]

COP snorks are lethal as all hell but they crumble when faced with the might of 12ga

[hazy helm]

you'll take both HAHAHAHA

[rotund fox]

You have to use shotties for mutants yea

[modest moth]

How many shots does it take to kill one Snork with a shotgun

Because somehow the Predator shotgun got bugged and was never given to me

[hazy helm]

Up close using normal rounds like 1 or 2

[rotund fox]

stalker games go on the older format for rock paper scissors gameplay, some weapons are better for humans some for mutants

[modest moth]

I shouldn't have sold that Striker

Whyyy

[hazy helm]

I always get a shotgun and a long to mid range option with maybe a pistol as backup

[modest moth]

I always tend to use rifles

[rotund fox]

Have you completed all the quests for Trapper though?

[modest moth]

Yes

[rotund fox]

Even the Zaton chimera hunt?

[modest moth]

Yes I have, it said that it gave me the Predator yet I don't have it

[rotund fox]

Odd

[modest moth]

I never even sold it and I never saw a shotgun got added to my inventory

[hazy helm]

Glad chimeras got restricted to quests and don't spawn in the wild,said and will say it again

Chimeras be p wack

[modest moth]

^^ If there were chimeras in the wild dear god the chaos will destroy the Zone as a whole

[rotund fox]

I remember once when playing Misery a chimera jumped on me from probably 10 meters away just as i pulled the pin on a grenade

[modest moth]

Difficulty mods are wack

The only thing difficult is the amount of enemy spam

Also that one mod that literally merged every post-apocalyptic faction into STALKER

How do you even fit that many factions

The map isn't even big enough for all of them

[rotund fox]

That's not a mod that's a list of every mod known to the stalker verse

As in the factions from all those mods on one list

[modest moth]

Who brings the Combine into the Stalker verse

[rotund fox]

I know where maybe 5 factions come from on that list, no clue on the rest

But i do like that there are so many, would be cool if everyone had their own unique suits weapons and so on

[hazy helm]

Russian story mods and soup mods are crazy and very very fun,you should try one

[modest moth]

Eh, my PC will kaboom if I get an addiction

Anyways I may have to rely on AKs and Obokans till I get my FT-200m fixed

And I got Military armor now, screw you SEVA unless I need you

Every hit even from a Tushkano was a certified Clear Sky

[modest moth]

(the joke is almost every hit in the early game is a guaranteed bleed)

[hazy helm]

Someone really needs to take suggestions channel away from vil

[modest moth]

But man

"bread" needs to make a comeback

[hazy helm]

Why

[rotund fox]

I doubt we will ever get as something as cool as the CS3a

[modest moth]

"bread" is king

[hazy helm]

True,CS3a is king

Dunno why Bread is so important

[rotund fox]

Screw bread can we get some Living Water in 2?

[hazy helm]

No

[rotund fox]

I never understood why games don't have a level or at least a few missions after you beat them where you get OP gear

Well Dead Space and Resident Evil 4/5 had OP items after you get an achievement or something

[pseudo rivet]

Ngl, CS-3a in CoP is overrated

[hazy helm]

drip over quality crimson remember

[modest moth]

I'd like a GMod STALKER NPC pack that are just reskins of the Combine with Stalker lines

And have actual, non-floppy ragdolls

[pseudo rivet]

Drip and quality with a Guardian of Freedom

[modest moth]

Anyways boys thoughts on Vano?

[pseudo rivet]

Chill duder

[rotund fox]

Good overall protection with 3 slots for artifacts, pretty great deal imo

[modest moth]

Beril 5m man, dripping wet with it, possibly Monolith blood

[pseudo rivet]

Based

[hazy helm]

Chad urban camo Vs wimpy multicam camo

[pseudo rivet]

Both PSZ-9d and the Guardian of Freedom are better, in my opinion

[rotund fox]

Oh ye the CS3 also has healing capabilities ontop of that

[hazy helm]

[pseudo rivet]

Or use a Firefly

[modest moth]

Where do I find a trader in CoP Pripyat

[rotund fox]

I used weight capability increasing artifacts

[modest moth]

I wanna sell my SEVA

[rotund fox]

You don't

[pseudo rivet]

In Zaton and the area around Jupiter

[modest moth]

How do I go back to Yanov and Skad

[rotund fox]

Wait for Garry to arrive at the laundromat

[modest moth]

garry

[rotund fox]

Yea

[modest moth]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

[pseudo rivet]

Keep it, ngl

[modest moth]

The SEVA is so useless in combat

[pseudo rivet]

To be completely honest, you should've gone through Pripyat-1 without a SEVA Suit

[modest moth]

And I'm combat-heavy

[pseudo rivet]

Because it isn't made for combat

[modest moth]

Oh yeah, I still have my March pistol, thank you Nimble

[hazy helm]

@pseudo rivet think you can give me your thoughts on this album?
The guys screm like madmen but the instrumentals are p good
https://open.spotify.com/album/7khpp22Tu504KBWWEKNB6O?si=pkrkfLu1Q4SXijycwEdmWQ&utm_source=copy-link

[modest moth]

Still good honestly, although I wish they kept the Kora 919's glowup stats from CS

[rotund fox]

It is, why else would you put balistic plates on a suit if it wasn't? It's just that the SEVA sucks at it

[modest moth]

Because I use it to keep my "Hitman" name in CS

Man I did a lot of kill-jobs in Anomaly

[gilded sentinel]

It’s a suit for anomaly protection , it’s literally said in the game

[pseudo rivet]

To increase the chances of you not dying from bullets? Sure, it's a suit literally made to protect against anomalies, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't protect you against bullets either. It's just that there are better options when it comes to combat. If you want the protective stats of a SEVA Suit but also way better protection against bullets and the sort, you go for a Guardian of Freedom suit with a Screen Helmet

[gilded sentinel]

Isn’t bulat better ?

[pseudo rivet]

Definitely for impact protection over anomaly protection

If you want a SEVA Suit that's better suited for combat, then go with the Guardian of Freedom with the Screen Helmet

Look at it like this, if we look at the "mid-game" armor from best impact protection to best anomaly protection, we've got:

PSZ-9d Duty armor
Bulat armored suit
CS-3a body armor
Guardian of Freedom suit

Due to the empty head slot, you can use the helmet that fits with your playstyle

Oh, and sadly, the Berill is just not worth it. Not only because of the stats, but also because the Tier 3 artifact container upgrade is bugged and can't be added to the suit

[slow sky]

where is anomaly discord?

[pseudo rivet]

Good question

[hazy helm]

You can find it in their moddb,in the place you downloaded it

[frail spire]

honestly you don't even need an exo for late game

just get a bulat or a skat and a seva helmet

[pseudo rivet]

Even the Sunrise Bodysuit is a very solid choice late-game

[frail spire]

dunno about that, a little too flimsy for my taste

since I tend to run directly into bullets

[pseudo rivet]

Easy, don't get shot

[frail spire]

like if we're taking into account not being shot once then the ecologists suits are just peak armor

you become impervious to literally everything but bullets and physical trauma plus you have all your slots

[pseudo rivet]

Definitely

[pseudo rivet]

Ngl, pretty mid. Mix is also pretty dry

[hazy helm]

Ok,thanks

[pseudo rivet]

Sorry

[hazy helm]

Nha don worry,I wanted your raw opinion

Thays why I asked in the first place

[pseudo rivet]

Might be sorta alright-ish for a racing game, I suppose

But the mix is pretty raw. I also had this feeling that some songs could be filled up more with small melodies at certain parts

[hazy helm]

Interesting

[pseudo rivet]

@fleet orchid
Ngl, Justice is cooler

[hazy helm]

What

[pseudo rivet]

Justice

Better than Harley Quinn's Poison Ivy

[hazy helm]

[pseudo rivet]

The Long Halloween Ivy was pretty good, ngl

[fleet orchid]

She's still a top girl, but I can't find beautiful arts with her) I recently watched the Harley Quinn series, so I put on a new cool girl 😎

[pseudo rivet]

Justice is good enough

Besides, there's way better Poison Ivy's than that one

[rotund fox]

The best armor is equipping a crapton of artifacts on your belt

I have always been disappointed that soup mods ended up being Misery but more items, as they seem the perfect candidate for you to become immortal whilst wearing nothing but a jacket

[frail spire]

what most soup mods always fail to do is making artifacts op as hell, at least the rare ones, and for CoP to never get someone to give us back the higher belt slot count even if it looks janky and breaks the UI

[rotund fox]

most soup mods always fail to do is making artifacts op as hell
Which ones do tho?

[frail spire]

I mean, none really, I try to think about it but they always have some tradeoff

Like "ok you want to use this rad as hell artifact guess what you need other 3 to counteract the side effects"

it's either that or "here this artifact has no downsides but it's so garbage you'll likely pick up the one that you can counteract with one common artifact"

[rotund fox]

Yea that's fine as long as it's REALLY good at what pro it's supposed to give

I heard someone say that the artifacts at least in OP give you maybe only 10% of what is displayed on screen

[hazy helm]

I am genuinely pissed they nerfed the artifacts in OP2.2 so they dont make you invulnerable and nigh immortal

I will learn russian and go back to OP2.1

[rotund fox]

The way it works in OP is that every squad or so has 1 guy that can kill you with 1 shot no matter what you have on you

It's difficulty for the sake of difficulty but you knew that already

[frail spire]

people also always fall for the trap of artifacts having a bunch of green numbers while having fewer red ones and ignoring how you need 3 arts to offset the first one

[hazy helm]

yhea,the goddamn immortal militaryman and immortal mercenary at cordon is too much let me telllyou

[rotund fox]

God forbid we enjoy the fruits of our labour

[rotund fox]

Eh i mean, if you get -9000 chem protection in order to offset +6000 bullet protection i think that's a fair trade for example

[hazy helm]

Heart of the Oasis shouldve been a completely busted artifact with no cons but really bullpoopoo to get

[rotund fox]

I never pay attention to chem, electricity in soup mods for example because it's worthless to do so

[rotund fox]

Kuz can be killed actually

I put on immortality once to freely search for a collector stash just cause i gave up searching for it in a legit way and managed to kill everybody there

[hazy helm]

the military guy?impossible,I turned on cheats and blasted him with everything even grenades and he still kept shooting me like goddamn terminator

not even the anomaly exo suit guy

[rotund fox]

Wot

Kuz is under the bridge in Cordon, you give him vodka to pass

[hazy helm]

YHEA HIM

I went by behind thru the tunnel and tried killing them,that was a mistake hes immortal

[rotund fox]

I guess he had an exo in 2.1? He doesn't in 2.2

Oh it's possible actually

All the quest givers were immortal in 2.1 i think

[hazy helm]

In 2.2 you have the anomaly exosuit guy with a anomaly Bizon
Killed him with one shot clean
Kuz? immortal

[rotund fox]

What quest is the guy with an exosuit?

[hazy helm]

I dunno,I haven't played OP since

[rotund fox]

I know there is a guy in the beginning of the game with a VSSK trying to snipe you from the bushes but that's about it

[hazy helm]

Ho no that Merc was ez,a shame his sniper is broken but there is another close to the nimble stash,on a hill before it that's immortal

I just cam around the snipers back and blasted him with my pistol

[rotund fox]

xd

[hazy helm]

Exo?Boe Imma kill you with the starter peestol

[rotund fox]

It's stupid, there is no logic to who should be hard to kill and who shouldn't

In a quest to find a rare artifact for Sid you get to fight bandits that take round after round of 5.45 AP to the face without as much as flinching

[hazy helm]

OP doesn't sound so good since,everything is undeservingly high

[rotund fox]

Yea

Im thinking of trying stalkersoup but man oh man

32 bit and high amounts of stuff to load=crash fest

[nimble spruce]

ah yes stalkersoup and it's 800 pages guide

[stiff orbit]

How’s the zone treating you guys today

[hazy helm]

mhe

[pseudo rivet]

hem

[stiff orbit]

Better than bad , that’s good

[obtuse gate]

is there a mod that will allow me to get a good zero for soc? sometimes i froze myself and spend a lot of time planing a shot and then the bullet goes out for a mile

[hazy helm]

good zero?

[obtuse gate]

yeah https://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/0/02/Zero-a-Rifle-Step-7-Version-2.jpg/v4-460px-Zero-a-Rifle-Step-7-Version-2.jpg

[hazy helm]

I dont understand

[snow fulcrum]

I hope we get some Stalker 2 news soon. Or an announcement on the release date

[obtuse gate]

or another gameplay trailer

[mossy musk]

it better be optional for the old AI, I adore the anomaly and clear sky AI

[dry imp]

or an announcement if its still alive

or just anything to signify that they are alive

[frail spire]

anomaly isn't old AI though

just saiyan

[delicate sparrow]

stalker 2

[dry imp]

[delicate sparrow]

[dry imp]

[delicate sparrow]

it's a terrible day for a blowout

[nimble cipher]

GamersCave#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fickle sparrow]

:/

is there a way to speed up dead bodies despawning?

[frail spire]

yes, make more dead bodies

unless it's a unique npc, if thats the case get used to seeing them forever unless you drag them into a ditch

[mossy musk]

If the zone was real which artefact would be the most valuable

[frail spire]

electric ones could be used for perpetual energy, gravity ones would let us build bigger stuff and have anti-grav arts offset the weight

healing ones would be a double edged sword though, since healing faster means fastening your body metabolism

Also turbocancer

[obtuse gate]

this community be like: well, if there's no sequel we' gonna make our own

[dry imp]

thats not this community at all

a fan made sequel would be awful

[solid dome]

Less awful than official sequel full of LGBTQWERTY glory, heavy propaganda, "genderism" & whatnpt

[sly minnow]

so im brand new to these games and im trying out anomaly and im doing the training mission with fanatic but it wont give me the prompt when i get to the anomaly field

any idea whats wrong?

[dry imp]

they're ukrainian they wont represent any of that

[dry imp]

ask in anomaly discord

[pseudo rivet]

You not playing the original games 🤨

[solid dome]

[sly minnow]

Well its free so i figured id try it out and see if its something id want to pay for and play

[pseudo rivet]

Well, it is honestly a totally different experience

[hazy helm]

Im gonna say this so you don't get wallfaced,anomaly is very very very different from stalker
A completely different experience,anomaly won't prepare you for it

[pseudo rivet]

You could probably yarr harr SoC and buy it later if you like it

Or perhaps wait for the next sale, GSC'll undoubtedly put a discount on the games during Christmas

[hazy helm]

The discounts make the games quite cheap actually,like 5 for both SOC and CS and 8 for COP

[pseudo rivet]

Definitely worth buying it, but that probably doesn't say much from someone who's in a STALKER server

[sly minnow]

thats what i was planning to do and even if they arent anything alike as long as it has the tense atmosphere i think ill enjoy them

[pseudo rivet]

Don't worry then, you'll like it

There's a great combination of surviving the Zone and see how others deal with the Zone

Their humanity is one of the many aspects that makes the game great

[hazy helm]

if you wanna play the mod we can't stop you but once you play stalker remember that it's nothing like anomaly,if you go into them expecting Anomaly you're gonna have a bad time

[pseudo rivet]

Other than the obvious survival and exploration of an area of mysteries and horror, of course

[hazy helm]

The OGs are light survival and more horror and exploration

[sly minnow]

i think id be able to get into em

[timid trail]

Hi guys

How’s going?

[dry imp]

who is Going

[timid trail]

Tampico 🤔🤔 from BB?

[dry imp]

what

[timid trail]

Breaking bad I mean

[hazy helm]

What

[dry imp]

what

[timid trail]

Nevermind

[dry imp]

[timid trail]

https://youtu.be/gSyT-GvoAcA tampico from this scene🤔

I was wonder if your nick was inspired by Breaking bad TV series, that’s all 😅

[dry imp]

not at all

[glossy blade]

Friday, my dudes

[hazy helm]

unfortunately I lack the permissions to post the humourous Friday crocodile
But it indeed is Friday,have a good day

[pseudo rivet]

Indeed, Friday Night

[obtuse crag]

@timid trail Pipe down man Let me fill you in

[frail spire]

That sounds kinda gay

[obtuse crag]

dont mind me its GSC

btw one question

the GSC role are they relly GSC or random people?

[frail spire]

Probably temps who were told "pretend to be me to not deal with these monkeys"

[glossy blade]

[timid trail]

lol

[timber crown]

The stalker ai in the old games were well beyond advanced. They were too real in movement and tactics sometimes.🤣

[rough sphinx]

where can i ask for help when i have problem with mod instalation ?

[solid dome]

How about we have Stalker 2 AI having NPCs sheitposting on their PDAs while they hang around?

[hazy helm]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications try here

[mossy musk]

maybe that could be used as a form of weight removal? like an artefact liposuction but it just makes the body eat itself really quick then you stop

thats what im imagining you could do with it

[hazy helm]

whaaaa
liposuction on S2 comfirmed?

[mossy musk]

if overeating adds weight to your stalker then maybe???

[obtuse crag]

[obtuse crag]

a freedomer already catched up with fang in clear sky and no clip out of the room

[timid trail]

Oh damn you are the rookie before the bandit village.

[obtuse crag]

Yes

i am in Skadovsk now

[timid trail]

How’s going brudah? Everything’s ok to the skadovsk?

[obtuse crag]

yeah i need a better suit

[limpid salmon]

whats the short fat monster called that makey you drop your weapon?

[solid dome]

Kebab eating politician which has a belly standing few metres in front of him, who opens the door and kicks you on the ground, using his belly

@limpid salmon Correct?

Tell me @limpid salmon I want to know if I'm the winner

[limpid salmon]

he has a hood on his head

[fickle sparrow]

Is it a normal feeling to want to skip CS entirely?

[limpid salmon]

Burer

[hazy helm]

why would you?

[solid dome]

Yes, Valve sucks major ass

[limpid salmon]

counter strike is nice

[fickle sparrow]

I'm having fun so far, but all the hype and great mods for Pripyat seem to want to rush me

[solid dome]

That's politicians, they want to bury us

[fickle sparrow]

Clear Sky, guys. Not Counter Strike

[hazy helm]

Id tell you to play vanilla CoP as your first playthru

[solid dome]

Counter Sighe isn't nice

[hazy helm]

since CoP doesnt need patches or anything other to run from the get go for most ppl

[solid dome]

Oh Clear Soy is good

[fickle sparrow]

I mean yeah, I usually only use ZRP, and a vanilla texture mod or something

[solid dome]

HoC bad

[hazy helm]

krezzin got a copy behind the scenes and already played it

[worthy lagoon]

shame on you for using ZRP

[hazy helm]

special krezzin perks

[fickle sparrow]

Guh?

Listen I want to actually beat the game

Not worry about game breaking bugs halfway through. I still haven't actually bought CoP yet

[solid dome]

Yes, I can give FTP access to the private builds folder

100 empty cans of tourist delight x 1 free FTP account access

@hazy helm You expect ЖДАЛКЕР 2 to be on the Game Awards?

[hazy helm]

at this point?I cant say,it was my prediction before but I dont know anymore

[dry imp]

i beat it already

[solid dome]

You have the wrong title then, HoC ends when Nimble spells Chort in the tunnels under Chornobyl

[hazy helm]

you spelled out the ending of Underrail now

[solid dome]

Under-what?

I spoiled the only single ending in Heart of Chortnobyl

Okay enough joking, I'm real as the global warming here
@hushed prawn Are you folks planning an appearance on The Game Awards? Ward teaser maybe?

[balmy hound]

I think I won't be able to watch the Game Awards show on live, i'll have to check out later if there is any Stalker 2 news...

Well, nobody cares, but i'm so disapointed by this personnal fact

[frail spire]

Imagine watching game awards for anything but seeing publishers cope over how they have totally not killed all IP's under the sun by their terrible decisions

[finite dragon]

hey does anybody know how to get rid of this error on stalker anomaly? FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CInifile::r_section
[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 544
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't open section 'string_table'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report

[frail spire]

go to the mod channel and if no one cares go to the anomaly discord

[solid dome]

And if no one replies, message Pope Francis

[balmy hound]

To my knowledge, only GSC can right now bring a high quality next gen video game. Maybe Rockstar too. But the others really need to stop making these generic ubisoft-like games.

[frail spire]

rockstar
bring anything past gta 4
lol
lmao even

[balmy hound]

I said maybe 🙂

[remote crow]

THIS RIGHT HERE EVERYONE

[nimble cipher]

atheadax#3617 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[remote crow]

shut up

Oops I meant this

[dry imp]

[fickle sparrow]

Free Kherson giveaway!

[solid dome]

only GSC can right now bring a high quality next gen video game

Sadly it won't be revolutionary, I'll have to disappoint you

[frail spire]

I mean I'm happy with not being revolutionary

[dry imp]

[dry imp]

yeah

[frail spire]

Every time someone says "its gonna be new and fresh" turns out to be a dumpster fire of hamfisted mechanics they never fleshed out properly

Or its a case of "the game would be the same if this mechanic was removed"

[dry imp]

yeah

where things are added for the sake of it

a mechanic that is just filler to just say "hey we added this cool thing! idk how or where we are gonna use it but its there!"

[waxen monolith]

I tried to register on game legends but Australia isn't listed in the countries on the drop down menu. I'm very dissapointed.

[sand fiber]

#🖤┃s2-pre-order message

[potent bluff]

🍉🍉🍉

[vague girder]

Why can't I use my torch/flashlight?

[sand fiber]

in what game

[vague girder]

Stalker Anomaly 1.5.1

Is there something missing in the downloading steps perhaps?

[rotund fox]

[waxen monolith]

Yea its sold out at all the retailers here so that doesn't help.

[sand fiber]

check keybinds

[vague girder]

Pressed L, still can't use it

[sand fiber]

isn't it f

[vague girder]

F? I saw it in the keybinds, it was L

[sand fiber]

maybe it's a gameplay feature and you need batteries or smth

idk never played the mod

[vague girder]

Huhh... It's fully loaded

[vague girder]

Aah... Should I take the conversation to #🔩┃trilogy_modifications?

[sand fiber]

doubt it will help, go to the anomaly discord

[vague girder]

Is there an invite link here?

[hazy helm]

in the moddb page where you downloaded the mod

[vague girder]

Thank you

[balmy hound]

I'm not disapointed, perfection doesn't exist.

[solid dome]

It's the Age of Disappointment, son

It's actually both Age of Remasters and Disappointment

[hardy bear]

I've been trying to find a couple mods to run for my first soc playthrough, I really don't want ones that change up the gameplay too much, just visual ones and bugfixes. Someone suggested memories of the zone, but from what I can see here it's entirely standalone. So is that not even a mod and simply the whole game itself?

[solid dome]

You don't need anything else than Zone Reclamation Project, it's like a bugfixing patch

Everything else changes the gameplay one way or another

[hazy helm]

I'd forego ZRP for my first playthru

as for visual ones,I'd say the absolute nature and structure are the only ones Id get

[hardy bear]

Looking at the modlist of MOTZ it says it has those mods in it

so I might just download those three separately in case motz alters gameplay too much

[hazy helm]

for a first playthru I would not recommend this
I'd say manually install only the absolute mods and try the game out,if it doesnt work try installing OGSR engine
thats as far as Id go

[hardy bear]

isn't the reclmation project just bugfixes?

[hazy helm]

yes but you can see he uses more than that
"+ a number of tweaks, additions and personal fixes"
as well as using AMK ballistics and ZRP Alternate Spawns and the medicine mods
the modpack goes beyond just visual mods

like I said,I recommend you try the game base for you first playthru,if the game refuses to work on your machine,I'd say try the OGSR engine and ZRP

[hardy bear]

is this also the case if you use ZRP by itself without the modpack?

[hazy helm]

ZRP makes minor gameplay changes like "fixing" bugs that werent bugs in the first place and adding other mechanics that were not supposed to be in the game
but it currently is the most vanilla like bug fix we have so its the one that gets most recommended

[hardy bear]

right

well in that case I'll skip it and try it out next time :)

[hazy helm]

like I said I always recommend you go pure vanilla your first time around but Xray can be just downright petty with your pc so if you run into problems that you can fix try to install the OGSR engine

[lament root]

Hello, fellow stalkers

[balmy hound]

I totally agree with the Age of Disapointment in video games, but GSC can make the difference. We should be careful not to have too high expectations in such a long awaited game, but Stalker 1 felt like a prototype which S2 can fully achieve. It's like their own GTA IV, some sort of best form for Stalker's formula (which can always be improved with mods anyway).

[hazy helm]

What was GTAIV the prototype for?BC if it was for GTAV then IV must've been especially bad

[balmy hound]

No, on the contrary, GTA IV was their masterpiece in my opinion.

However I know GSC is working really hard, but if I were them I would keep in mind that perfection doesn't exist as well. They should put their best in it, but there will be some unseen bugs after release. It's like when I read 10 times my message and I find an english mistake 3 seconds after posting

[hazy helm]

Honestly,what's most important is managing expectations right now,not for it being a great and majestic game but showing what the game actually is,which type of formula it is chasing and such,is it more SoC or more CoP?

[balmy hound]

SoC had a creativity CoP didn't have, i'm way more into SoC.

Game as an art > Technical perfection

[hazy helm]

It is way easier to achieve systems that work together well by removing most systems and limiting the number you have to a low one,like CoP did,I would like it more of they grabbed CS systems and polished them up and improved on them but Ha well

[balmy hound]

You're talking about that faction war in the swamps ?

[hazy helm]

I'm talking about the dynamity of gameplay and AI

[solid dome]

However I know GSC is "working really hard".

Yep-yep-yep-yep-yep-yep-yep

[balmy hound]

Sorry I can't answer that, I did notice technical improvements of gameplay but not any significative change in AI (the game is "hard" for me in any case ).

[hazy helm]

Most A-Life features and visual improvements rather than being improved were cut in order to make a more streamlined game as well as the artifact system being destroyed to prop up the upgrade system which I find odd since it's not like artifacts an upgraded can't coexist
I also stand against the way side content was done,I don't think either approaches of SoC and CS and CoP did it well,they hyperfocused on one when they should've diversified and given you the choice between radiant and hand crafted quests
I also disapprove of how the map was done since it feels hollow,like a theater,locations are just there to server as the background of quests for the player and without the player the game would not go forward or backward which I say is a step back from the objective in SoC and CS of making an immersive world that the player could feasibly not be a part of and it would still interect with itself

[balmy hound]

None of the opus in the trilogy were complete, isn't that why we are waiting S2 ? 🤞

[hazy helm]

Opus?

[balmy hound]

game* in the trilogy

[hazy helm]

All games have cut content,it's the process of how ideas are implemented and not every idea you have is worthy or works well enuff to make it thru to the end altho it is true CS and SoC were under severe time constraints
CoP was able to slot in more of what it wanted

[frail spire]

All games had cut content but they weren't unfinished

[hazy helm]

He meant not all content the Devs wanted was put in

[frail spire]

Well that happens with all games

[balmy hound]

Yep I didn't mean it in a pejorative way

[frail spire]

Like, ever heard of how Dragons Dogma was set to fail because 2/3 of the game was pretty much removed?

[hazy helm]

We're saying it in a realistic way
It is simply,the process of brainstorming,like making a book you have a rough outline with ideas,but once you start developing it you realise,some of these ideas aren't good so you don't put them in

[hazy helm]

Explain that to me since I was going to start DD after Pathfinder

[frail spire]

If you didn't played it you won't get it

[balmy hound]

I don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about honnestly.

[frail spire]

But the game feels extremelly lackluster and unfinished despite having a bunch of cool concepts and mechanics

Because halfway execs decided what was going to go into the game and what not

And the game lost like 3 classes, all remaining ones were left unbalanced and unfinished, the companion system while it was still left mostly alone was also somewhat scuffed, maps felt empty and they had multi-layered maps removed

Meaning that you had your surface map and then you would have an underground map

There was also the whole romance system which is pretty hillarious since if you don't know your "loved one" may accidentally be the shopkeeper you stopped one last time to sell your stuff because it gets locked past certain point in the story with no prompt whatsoever

[hazy helm]

Guess I'll really need to play the game to know since I don't understood the last one

[unique grail]

Can someone explain why ppl r dragging on GSC lol

[hazy helm]

Sorry?

[frail spire]

define "drag"

they're free to prove literally everyone who dunks on them wrong by releasing a non-scripted game video with funny pepsi man laughing in the background

but they won't, so nothing changes

[unique grail]

Idk some ppl in here just seem particularly skeptical about the new game coming

[frail spire]

last slav dev that released something had to hire an anime studio to save themselves from bankruptcy

oh also there was the whole nft scam thing they tried to push for

which they backed away from for the sole reason of how much backlash they got hit with, otherwise they would be shilling their bolt nfts in announcements

[solid dome]

Have you been to the Antarctic since February?

No way you can be happy with GSC given they treat their customer base like rotten shrimp

Think this is the most weird comparison, ever

[dry imp]

have you actually seen the new game coming?

my point exactly

[frosty ember]

If people at GSC visit #📜┃s2_suggestions and see all that nonsense people suggest then I'm not surprised they treat their potential customers like that.

[dry imp]

gsc doesn't even look at that channel regardless, i dont think they ever sid

the issue is the game doesn't exist

good question

honestly its probably going to be like make game, game is mid, people not happy, forever silent

it's currently gsc

[solid dome]

GSCGI

One acronym explains the whole situation

[unique grail]

i still dont get it

u say they treat their customers bad but they havent released a introduction to the series in 13 years

[nimble cipher]

gabskates#6303 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[unique grail]

u cant cuss in the stalker discord

people get mad they delayed a game. first of all; nobody should pre-order any game its just an ignorant thing to do. Second of all nobody delays games for no reason, the reason why trash games get released is because of pressure from forced release dates. Its almost like people these days would rather see the unfinished game release, get horrible reviews, and lose support because the game flopped on release.

[dry imp]

no one is mad about the delay

i dont care about when it comes out

i want communication on the project, to which there is zero. which to me shows they are not confident in themselves or their project which is absolutely a bad sign

[dry imp]

and they still haven't

[finite dragon]

I always wondered if the stalker dialogue, stuff like bandit banter is in ukrainian or russian. I can never tell the difference

[dry imp]

in a real scenario its probably both

but in game i think its just ukrainian

[unique grail]

its just crazy how the games not even out and ppl already complaining

[dry imp]

i think you are missing the point

and its really not that crazy

[hazy helm]

it is very well known ppl will hate on everything and anything while online

[dry imp]

you are also missing the point

[hazy helm]

ho trust me I know why you levy critiques against GSC
dont worry,Im just saying gab,if its online,someone somewhere will have a problem with it,it's not so hard to believe tbh

[dry imp]

yeah thats true but its not a case of just hating on it. its more being neglected and forced to stay in the dark

[unique grail]

Nobody missing the point

Ppl in these small communities cant help but be negative about everything

Ohh they didnt update u on the state of the game enough after their homeland was invaded piece of garbage devs

[sturdy nymph]

Guys when is Stalker 2 going to be released ? Because they said december this year, but on the main website it says 2023

[unique grail]

It got delayed they say dec 2023 now

Cause they lived in ukraine

[sturdy nymph]

Damn hope we get to play the game one day

[dry imp]

you are literally deliberately misunderstanding me

[unique grail]

No ur point is just trash

[dry imp]

it literally isnt

im saying that they have not communicated anything for a long time and its neglecting the community

[unique grail]

Every game dev ever

[dry imp]

they literally just need to say anything to confirm that they are still working on the project

[unique grail]

Its been like 4 months

[dry imp]

now that point is trash

"but everyone does it! "

[unique grail]

And they did confirm it 😭😭 they said theyre working on it again

[dry imp]

when

plus its been way more than four months

[frail spire]

I can also say that I have S2 source code without proof

[unique grail]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/gsc-game-world-are-back-working-on-stalker-2-again

[frail spire]

[dry imp]

Published on May 23, 2022

[frail spire]

Also you keep saying it like devs haven't been scum for years now aside the occasional outlier

[unique grail]

Omg theyre not updating us enough after fleeing ukraine to the czech republic smh 🤦‍♂️

[frail spire]

They already fled a week in

What are you even on about

[dry imp]

no release date despite having open preorders, no information on development, no gameplay

[unique grail]

Bro if you ever have to do anything that hard in ur life maybe youll understand

[dry imp]

and exact reason to give an update

[dry imp]

stfu i have hard times and i know how to communicate them too

[frail spire]

Anyways, don't even bother trying to reason

[unique grail]

Idk bro you guys are just complaining about literally nothing

[dry imp]

my guy its literally something

you cannot process anything can you

[frail spire]

Despite them stating many times they already left kiev a while ago and also said they outsourced like 300 spots

[unique grail]

Its just funny to me how i join the discord cause im hype and enjoy the series the first 5 comments i see are neckbeards complaints

[dry imp]

[frail spire]

Yeah welcome to literally any playerbase that cares

"omg its neckbeards"

Yes why thanks

[unique grail]

Lol you guys have no solid reasoning besides "they didnt give an update recently enough 😔😔😔"

[dry imp]

..yes thats the whole argument

he can finally read we did it

[frail spire]

They shilled nfts without even giving a proper dev log, thats more than enough reason

[unique grail]

Lol bro dont pre order if you dont want to but theyre not entitled to update you the games not out. Theyre working on the game.

[frail spire]

They also keep answering literally every question with NDA

[dry imp]

which means they are listening and looking at the community and deliberately ignoring them

[unique grail]

Ignoring or just not responding cause theres a difference

[dry imp]

you can do both

[frail spire]

See I have no issue with them not answering certain questions, but they literally don't answer jack

[unique grail]

Idk what questions are you guys wanting the answers to so bad

[dry imp]

"what the hell is happening?"

[frail spire]

We don't even know what we should be hyped about because we know nothing

[unique grail]

"When is the game coming out 🤓"

[frail spire]

Everyone knew the game was gonna get delayed

Because this isn't the first time it happened

[unique grail]

Youve played stalker, its a new stalker game. Go do something else until it comes out. Lol.

[dry imp]

response: NDA

[dry imp]

that is the dumbest excuse i have ever heard

"just go do something else lol" that does not answer anything

[hardy bear]

I would like to see some actual gameplay soon

[frail spire]

"don't involve yourself with an ip you like lmao, just shut up and be hyped for new product"

[unique grail]

U guys want the devs to live stream themselves coding and shit

[dry imp]

this

[dry imp]

no you dumbass that wouldnt make any sense

[frail spire]

We want a 1 minute webm of literally anything

[dry imp]

literally just need them to say something at all

[hardy bear]

And after battlefield 2042 killing all desire to play games for half a year, I want to know what the game is like before buying it

[dry imp]

EXACTLY

[unique grail]

Thats the kind of involvement u guys r craving so badly you need every detail about the new title every second and u need ur grubby fingers on it right this instant

[dry imp]

that is literally not what we are saying at all

[frail spire]

Thats some projecting man

[hardy bear]

They are selling collectors editions and nfts before any gameplay demo has been revealed

[unique grail]

Ok theyre not updating yall on the game. What does being cynical about the title and cynical toward anyone excited about it accomplish

[dry imp]

no one is being cynical to anyone except you

i dont hate them for it i am just disappointed

[unique grail]

Bro someone said "im sure theyre working hard" and some weirdo responds with some backhanded smart ass response like just let people be happy

[dry imp]

no one said that

[frail spire]

We don't care when the game comes out, because it will eventually come out, but whenever a dev knowingly decides to not show what they've been working on then that means theres something everyone would be so against being in the game that they're gonna keep it under wraps until the last possible second

[dry imp]

exactly

[unique grail]

Why would they self sabotage their game so nobody buys it

[dry imp]

self sabotage? what?

[unique grail]

Knowingly hide something they know people would dislike and release it anyways

[frail spire]

They already self sabotaged by doing the nft scheme

After the whole nft thing people have been calling this game a scam

[unique grail]

Ok dude everybody tried the nft shit i dont support that dumb nft stuff either but ubisoft did it aswell and people still buy assassins creed

[dry imp]

because they dont have the community opinion on it. trust me when you develop games, you tend to overlook a lot of things until the community sees it or it is heavily play tested

[frail spire]

Ok but we're not braindead ubitrash players

We have mods and jank

[dry imp]

because the ubisoft community are a hivemind

[unique grail]

When you develop games you usually try to make it so people enjoy them. You dont put in trash ass mechanics everyone will dislike on purpose and hide them from everyone so theyre disappointed when the game releases thus causing no purchases

[dry imp]

but you dont know they are trash until they are tested

[frail spire]

Thats literally what microtransactions are though

And thats how every single dev has done to shove them in

[hardy bear]

2042 - hazard zone

[unique grail]

so how does this explain the fact that he said theyre purposefully hiding it

[frail spire]

They kept it under wraps until the last possible day and patch

[hardy bear]

Awful mode, no gameplay before launch, died in less than a day

[frail spire]

So they can milk asnmany preorders as possible

[dry imp]

because they are not confident with what they have

[unique grail]

but bro youre not making any sense

[dry imp]

thats what i think is happening

[dry imp]

but bro you are not reading anything im saying, it makes perfect sense

[unique grail]

if they werent confident they would have people test it and change it... not hide it so the game is awful.

[frail spire]

Then they shove the micros post launch and now you paid for "the cum drinker edition" bit still have to pay even more for cosmetics

[dry imp]

but we dont know that do we

gameplay would answer all of that

[unique grail]

bro no game company ever has hidden a secret mechanic that they know the playerbase will hate and not talk about it at all

[frail spire]

I mean they already said there would be prorder skins and like it or not thats not a good omen

[dry imp]

they literally have

[hardy bear]

Eomm in cod?

[frail spire]

Yes, blizzard doesn't exists

[hardy bear]

Loot boxes in battlefront 2?

[dry imp]

battlefront 2 was bad anyway

[unique grail]

so you guys are worried about microtransactions

[frail spire]

Dunno, should we? Because we know nothing

[hardy bear]

It still meets your criteria

[dry imp]

im not personally, because i see it happening with the multiplayer anyway

[frail spire]

Its a singleplayer, theres no place for micros unless they add actual extra content and not just a gun or a skin

[unique grail]

idk the basis of ur argument is that an update on the game is required so that you KNOW that GSC isnt putting in any secret hidden mechanics that will tank their game sales

[dry imp]

you're partially getting it, we're almost there

[frail spire]

Add modsnon top of that which will probably unlock anything preorder related

[unique grail]

"WE NEED AN UPDATE... THEY MIGHT BE RUINING THEIR OWN GAME!!!!"

[frail spire]

Yes

[dry imp]

he finally got it

[unique grail]

if they update yall and you hate it you guys think theyre gonna change anything??? definitely not. so its just a big nothing burger of an argument.

[frail spire]

See was it so hard?

[dry imp]

there is not "hate"

some take it too far and hate, but i am not

like Krezzin

[unique grail]

ok so i got to the bottom of this

[frail spire]

Its literally "hey give us info so we can decide if to buy or not"

Its not hard to understand

[unique grail]

well you dont have to decide yet it doesnt come out for over 365 days

[hardy bear]

Like what if the game ends up having cod like movement, no hardcore survival mechanics and terrible ambience. Wouldn’t it be better to see that before launch?

[unique grail]

wouldnt it be crazy if you saw it at launch and then decided, "ah i dont like that, I wont buy it."

[dry imp]

but i want to like it desperately

[unique grail]

do you guys have nothing better to do but theorize how GSC will purposefully ruin their game so that their hardcore fans dislike many aspects of its gameplay

thats all im asking

[dry imp]

"nothing better to do"

[frail spire]

Ok but what if as a dev, you had a community willing to help and work with you, by ignoring it you'll simply cause a rift and probably lose a bumch of loyal people, because again, this was a niche game with a niche playerbase

[unique grail]

All im saying is of all games with opaque dev teams STALKER probably has the best excuse

[jaunty mason]

are we still talking about this

[frail spire]

Which is why the IP survived for so long and even has a chance to get another game despite gsc doing nothing for a decade

[jaunty mason]

If you love something enough, you should be willing to wait 2 years for it

[frail spire]

Like, imagine if valve said tomorrow they would work on HL3, no sane person would expect anything good from it

[dry imp]

we should know the excuse

[unique grail]

GSC probably had no plans of releasing another STALKER again. their niche community isnt all that kept them alive because other games inspired by the series have revitalized the fanbase.

[frail spire]

Here comes the cope over how tarkov saved stalker

[dry imp]

anomaly!!!!!!!!

[unique grail]

i wouldnt say that Tarkov pretty much is just a copy of Stalker

[frail spire]

[unique grail]

but its true. i played tarkov first and now like stalker. im not the only one.

[dry imp]

its over

[dry imp]

do you play anomaly or vanilla

[unique grail]

u guys r funny man

[frail spire]

Stalker was fine pre-tarkov though

Again, its the cope

[dry imp]

thanks bro

[unique grail]

yea?

i said that tarkov did not save stalker...

[dry imp]

yeah what

[unique grail]

i dont even get how im "coping" what am i coping about

[dry imp]

tbh idk either, "cope" is just a funny internet word

[unique grail]

you guys are the coping ones. you have an unhealthy obsession with stalker to the point you have created a false reality that the developers of the game have a grand conspiracy to hide the game from their fans as it is unplayable and everyone will dislike it.

[dry imp]

thats literally not what any of us have said

he is lost again

[unique grail]

u think the game will be bad cause they have not updated you on it

[dry imp]

he's back

[unique grail]

literally what you said i just dont think you know what the words i used meant

dictionary.com

[dry imp]

i dont think you know how to use the words you said

[unique grail]

i used every word in that sentence correctly

[dry imp]

sure

despite the fact that none of it was my argument

[unique grail]

you have created a false reality that the developers of the game have a grand conspiracy to hide the game from their fans as it is unplayable and everyone will dislike it.

u think the game will be bad cause they have not updated you on it

[dry imp]

these are two different claims

[unique grail]

pretty much synonymous statements

[dry imp]

you're lost imma just leave you be

[unique grail]

ok bro keep doomposting about the new stalker and how awful it will be

[dry imp]

i literally wasnt

[unique grail]

u jumped to the defense of the people who are

[dry imp]

no one was

[unique grail]

its pretty much this discord in essence

[dry imp]

so true

new user joins and completely misunderstands the community once again

[unique grail]

new user joins, witnesses negativity. dislikes it. "WHY DOESNT HE UNDERSTAND US!!!"

[dry imp]

he has it again

lets go

give it a sec because he will lose it momentarily

[unique grail]

"the new stalker will be bad because i say so, every good game ever created has had a completely transparent dev team which gave monthly updates"

[dry imp]

yo yo he has it

lets go he understands

good job

[unique grail]

dev team never updated me about RDR2 but its the best game i ever played

[dry imp]

there was gameplay

[unique grail]

like a month before release

[dry imp]

also its a completely different situation

[unique grail]

thats how it works. when its ready to be played they start sharing stuff. the game still has another year before release.

[dry imp]

rockstar had no issues with development over the few years it took

while stalker 2 has been through many many mishaps

[unique grail]

im not saying a transparent dev team would be bad either it would be awesome but it doesnt mean theyre hiding the game from u

[dry imp]

or does it?

we dont know

[unique grail]

im just saying the best interest of every developer is to make a good game

[dry imp]

i wouldnt say "every"

[unique grail]

until u hit like triple A and then its make money

[dry imp]

but yeah mostly

[unique grail]

gameplay would be cool too, and without it maybe you can assume there will be parts you dislike. but i think that its also in their interest to stay true to STALKER while making a stalker game

so i guess the reason i didnt understand your argument is because logically, it doesn't stack up.

[dry imp]

it does

but we are back at square one and i really dont care to argue anymore

[unique grail]

it only stacks up in the most pessimistic thought process imaginable

but yea youre right

[dry imp]

[solid dome]

Brutally wrong. There is no conspiracy, there is lack of self confidence in the product you're making, thus you try to cash in on preorders, and if the game fails to meet expectations on release day - it sure will for some, you'll go with the excuse "We'll fix it in a patch" ----- and people will take it.

Damage control 101

[hardy bear]

Do what battlefield does and release a brutally broken game that is fundamentally bad but outright say in your investor call ‘dice has a reuptustion for coming back and fixing their games’

[unique grail]

People wont take it tho

Cause STALKER isnt battlefield. Battlefield is one of the most renowned shooters of all time that people will mindlessly purchase.

If a game is released buggy and lackluster than it results in less sales end of story

Especially coming from a company that doesnt have some big title name they can hide behind. And if you think the STALKER series is that, youre mistaken. And it certainly isnt Cossacks

[hardy bear]

Not if the marketing is good enough

[unique grail]

Some giant corporations cant get away with it i dont think GSC could fathomably play off a horrible failure.

[hardy bear]

All in all, we all want the game to be good. I only got into stalker recently and I’m absolutely in love with it’s setting, so I’ve not been waiting nearly as long as most. But I just want to see what this game has to offer as a mild curiosity

Given the fact that they have campaign expansions, player skins, gun skins and more as pre order bonuses, and have attempted nfts before the game is even out, it doesn’t really give me a good impression if that’s their focus over getting out some gameplay.

Because of that, I’m happy just waiting from the sidelines witbout a pre order and seeing what it’s like. But there’s nothing really to get me excited at the moment

[solid dome]

People will do, believe me. And funk Bottlefield, I never mentioned that, BulletKin did.

[frail spire]

Gsc is working under microsoft man, they can shill their way in and out

[solid dome]

Get submitting if you will. The more I add, the harder it is to keep finding unique stuff. I'm hoping I can bring it to 200 tracks before the end of 2022.

[dry imp]

i can make music you should contract me so i can get money

[obtuse gate]

first time stalker in master
actually reaches the sarcophagus after a lot of tries
gets a ft200m and cleans everything
all ready to the final confrontation
fuckin forgets the decoder at pripyat

[fluid abyss]

mutaharlaugh.mov

[obtuse gate]

i had to reload a pripyat save but i managed to get the decoder not so far away but i'm gonna deal with that tomorrow xD

[verbal hemlock]

Ohhhhhh no

[sand fiber]

they actually can

[exotic folio]

Any stalker to chat?

[rotund fox]

When was the last time you played the vanilla games? The games never had hardcore survival mechanics and they had Quake like movement with your characters being able to run rather fast.

[exotic folio]

Anyone who plays "Stay Out"?

"Stalker Online"

[hazy helm]

I stay away from those

[exotic folio]

Why?

[hardy bear]

I’ve not yet, but I’ve got them lined up ready to play

But just replace what I said with whatever has you interested in the series

[rotund fox]

[hazy helm]

they are MMORPGs,not particularly good ones at that either

[solid dome]

Cossacks has always been niche series

On another hand, they butchered it, purposedly

As with anything, if the first 2 times you don't fail, you'll fail at 3rd time

@hazy helm Did someone interrupt your thought?

Vasim typing then...

[hazy helm]

this actually got me interested, got me thinking lately, so I went and researched and lo and behold, it's wrong, New Vegas was inspired by Stalker COP exclusively in survival mode
Josh Sawyer in the charity stream got asked if he knew the stalker games and if they were an inspiration, he shared that the survival mechanics were an inspiration to hardcore mode to the point "it was a rip-off"
https://www.twitch.tv/obsidian/v/100606816 reference starts at 9:17:27
hand crafted quests are a staple of RPGs and it would've been questionable to deline COP as an inspiration when countless other RPGs have handcrafted quests and are built around these
what I do know is new vegas quest structure is inspired by spaghetti westerns where a stranger comes into a town and irreversibly changes its story only to disappear into the void

[hazy helm]

just an old argument that got me thinking lately

quite a fun research actually

turns out New Vegas really has stuff inspired by stalker which is a fun tid bit

[solid dome]

Which part?

[hazy helm]

like I said,specifically New Vegas hardcore mode was inspired by Call of Prypriat's survival mechanics
Josh Swayer comments he basically ripped them off

[exotic folio]

Its a good game... they re-launched the game on steam.

[hazy helm]

good for you

as for me,I will avoid it like the plague

[exotic folio]

Ok

Taste is like ass, each one have one

[hazy helm]

@inner parcel think you can elaborate on your backpack idea?what do you mean?

[dry imp]

all stalker mmos suck

yes including stalcraft

[dry imp]

probably just something to increase carry weight or inventory size

[fickle glade]

probably something like anomaly

[dry imp]

or that

or "muh tarkov inventory system!!"

[rotund fox]

Id like it if outfits were just complete sets like in soc tbh

And have headgear just tied to upgrades for it

[hazy helm]

I'd like if upgrades to carry weight to not be changed and rely purely on upgrades and artifacts

[fickle glade]

so like in soc?

[hazy helm]

like in CS

[pseudo rivet]

CoP system or bust

[dry imp]

no not like SoC at all

[rotund fox]

You couldn't even repair armour in soc(at least not in a legit way) let alone upgrade it xd

Although we also need more unique suits like in soc

tourist suit my beloved

[dry imp]

[frail spire]

They should add some weird zone-only anomaly mutated suits

Like a leather jacket that went throught a bunch of spatial anomalies and now whoever wears it teleports at will but it only teleports the person

So you give it to a shaman and now shamans can go around the zone doing whatever they want

[fickle glade]

i think there was one suit like that in soc but i might be wrong

[dry imp]

like if you leave a certain area it just stops working?

[frail spire]

More like, if you're in the middle of a certain type of anomaly you get extra effects

And while being outside you get an inferior version of a non-mutated variant

[fickle glade]

so artifacts but worse?

[frail spire]

Like artifacts but with bigger game changing effects

[dry imp]

no, the suit has better protection in certain areas and different effects

[frail spire]

Instead of just statchecks

Like, artifacts are just stat sticks

[dry imp]

yeah

funny +200% health x4

[frail spire]

But imagine if wearing an electro mutated suit made you get your stamina replenished if you walked directly into it

And get a stamina penalty after a while, making the suit work like a battery you need to recharge

[dry imp]

maybe something where you can use some of the gravity anomalies as cover

[frail spire]

Maybe make grav anomalies make your gun have no recoil or hit harder in exchange of having your gun condition go down faster

[rotund fox]

How about they just focus on making the flavour text actually do stuff

Like the bulletproof artifacts should outright bend bullets away from you

[dry imp]

yeah, something visual

other effects just give you an aura

[frail spire]

Maybe make grenades fly away from you

[dry imp]

that could be disastrous in some areas

[frail spire]

Good

[dry imp]

flies straight onto an ally

[frail spire]

The crazier it gets the better

Maybe get a suit from a gas anomaly that makes enemies near you lose health as if they were bleeding

[dry imp]

or make the gas regenerate your wounds

[frail spire]

Theres a lot of crazy stuff

[dry imp]

a suit where burners repair it

[frail spire]

Or a suit that gives you a lot of psy res but makes you go full schizo

And you're constantly hearing sound cues all the time

[dry imp]

occasionally you lose control of your character for a few seconds

[pseudo rivet]

Skinner Anomaly lore based

[frail spire]

Have an anomaly gun that has no magazine and it just teleports ammo into the chamber

[rotund fox]

That's just ripping off Singularity at that point

[pseudo rivet]

Artifacts inside guns do B hella lore

[fickle glade]

just make gun that shoots artifacts

[dry imp]

im going to be ripping off your arms

[rotund fox]

The Autocannons ammo clip is too small for the mass number of bullets it holds. The Dev team states that the piece being placed into the weapon during reload is actually an E99 device that temporally rewinds the weapon from depleted to fully loaded.

[frail spire]

Or a gun that literally fires the same round and after it gets too far it gets teleported back into the chamber

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds more like a time anomaly

[frail spire]

Make it a crossbow so you don't have to explain "if its the same projectile wheres the gunpowder load"

[dry imp]

it goes out, hits its target and rips out of it and goes back into the chamber

that would be so painful

[pseudo rivet]

Carve a gravitational artifact inside a grenade and it'll float

[dry imp]

imagine a hollowpoint or something just ripping right back out of you

[frail spire]

The floating claymore that you gently push towards a bandit group

[pseudo rivet]

Literally

I remember Battlefront II having Tampico's suggestion in the game, at least sorta

[dry imp]

i made battlefront 2

[pseudo rivet]

I think you might actually be right

[dry imp]

i came up with all of it myself

[pseudo rivet]

If you charged your grenade launcher, the grenades wouldn't explode on impact but bounce off surfaces

So, if that grenade hit an enemy, it would hurt them

[dry imp]

yeah but if its a headshot it would be funny if it knocked them out

[dry imp]

also thats in like every shooter

[frail spire]

Maybe a soul powered controller hand, so you can make enemies have mental breakdowns

[dry imp]

or just make them commit suicide

[pseudo rivet]

It would bounce off the enemy and hurt them

[dry imp]

but if they fall over like a sack if potatoes from being hit in the head with a frag grenade

[rotund fox]

That's already a thing for launched grenades, it has a minimum arming distance so you don't blow yourself up

In real life i mean

[dry imp]

yeah its arming distance is based on its rotations

[pseudo rivet]

And explode afterwards

Heck off with your real life, we're talking Star Wars Battlefront II

[rotund fox]

Ok hear me out boys, zone grenades that temporarily spawn an anomaly

[pseudo rivet]

Canon

[dry imp]

wtf half life entropy zero 2 reference???

[pseudo rivet]

In lore, you can activate artifacts to create anomalies

[rotund fox]

Could you throw it though

[frail spire]

Instead of firing grenades you fire a soul and create an instant schizo zone

That makes people shoot eachother

[dry imp]

i mean artifacts are physical objects so yeah you can throw them

[rotund fox]

Yea but they are of varying dimensions and sizes