⭐┃nospoilers_general

[nova osprey]

oh no swearing

[devout canyon]

bruh

i just wonder...

[nova osprey]

any way i downloaded call to chernoyble and it comes up with a error message and i dont know how to fix it

i really wanna play COC as well

[devout canyon]

Did you install it from ModDB?

[nova osprey]

hol up

[devout canyon]

Or do you have STALKER Call of Pripyat installed?

[nova osprey]

yeah i do

[devout canyon]

strange

[nova osprey]

i downloaded it from https://www.moddb.com

[devout canyon]

ok, but you downloaded 1.4.22 right?

or 1.5r6?

[nova osprey]

i downloaded 1.4.22

oh i mean 1.4.12

[forest urchin]

I just checked in 🙂 why does it say on steam that Heart of chernobyl is due till Dec 2023? One more year of waiting????? DEVS WTF

[pseudo rivet]

That's basically a placeholder date, since we don't know

I wouldn't worry about it

We still haven't seen any actual gameplay, so I wouldn't jump on the hypetrain

[forest urchin]

To understand what you are saying, The waiting time can either be shorter or even longer?

[hazy helm]

yes,hopefully,Q1 2024

[devout canyon]

i guess it will come out after the STALKER TES is released

[hazy helm]

what

[modest moth]

Good news: I got the March

Bad news: I will have to hunt for Snag

[nimble cipher]

biglob#0423 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[hazy helm]

Every copy of th game personalized

Its not usual these bugs happen

Try verifying the files

Yes

[modest moth]

yes please do try that

if your game has missing content verify your game files via steam

[hazy helm]

Are you or did you use any mods before?

Try uninstalling and reinstalling and starting a new game
If that doesn't work install OGSR engine on SoC hopefully that works

have a nice game

[finite dragon]

Hey just a quick question. Is the new Stalker game going to release on Playstation 5 along with X box and PCs or is it an exclusive ?. I never got a chance to play a Stalker game as I always had only PlayStation so hopefully I can get this one.

[forest urchin]

I know that its going to be on PC and xbox for sure, I dont really know about ps5

[solid dome]

You can ask GSC that but there's a catch

They don't provide any answers at all besides generic auto-reply like responses. So good luck. - blame Griga for that, not the PR team 😄

[finite dragon]

[solid dome]

Mundfish: 10 minutes of brand new gameplay footage from Atomic Heart to enjoy, folks
GSC: Lul
STALKER boys: Jesus, trolling beyond limits. F-off.

[small egret]

Would this be in the same lines why now the collector's edition for xbox and PS5 is marked as "unavailable" cause the preorder was up for a few weeks and now its not for that version of the game

[solid dome]

I'mma meme this out

[limpid salmon]

hello

is the AC-96/2 good? like is it worth keeping and using? I currently use it both as a sniper and assault rifle, only the scope isn't as good for sniping at longer distances

I would use a TRs but they tend to break easily

[solid dome]

I actually did
https://i.imgur.com/OZC5ejx.png

[prime harness]

I'm thinking about joining a faction besides Loners

Can someone try to convince me why I should join a specific faction

[radiant star]

rock 👍

[prime harness]

A compelling argument

[frail spire]

if you need an argument to join then you're not a good candidate

[hazy helm]

renegadis gods of zona

[prime harness]

Alright then so no to monolith

[cold frost]

Been playing Stalker Anomaly and I have a question. Does anyone know a fix to this? The Veles is white screened and I don't know how to fix it.

[radiant star]

no new brothers

[hazy helm]

you will have better chances and quicker responses if you ask in the anomaly server,if you have trouble finding it go to the moddb page of anomaly

[finite dragon]

which faction should i play

[hazy helm]

renegades

[finite dragon]

must take the challenge

lets go to the swamps NOW

which gamemode @hazy helm

[hazy helm]

Azzazel

[finite dragon]

🥶

i've never actually tried azzazel before

[hazy helm]

there we go,try smth new

[finite dragon]

exactly

[drifting gate]

Who's your guy's favorite protagonist?

[hazy helm]

Scar

[drifting gate]

See im tied between major and Strelok

I haven't played Clear sky yet

[pseudo rivet]

Scar

[rotund fox]

@runic oak You can't be serious, crafting? Lmao

Next up: Building a wooden house in the zone

At most you should have a little premade hole to hide in like Shooter did in Agroprom and that it's in the center of the map somewhere

[hazy helm]

stop bullying the guys posting suggestions man,just put a sad pepe reaction

[rotund fox]

How am i bullying anyone xd im just saying it's a bad idea. Plus i gave him a better alternative

[fickle sparrow]

holy shit, I found out how lucky I am. I found a dead duty guy right outside the south entrance to Bar and it was Barin!

and I just finished X-18

So a bunch of psuedodogs hand delivered an extremely effective gun to me with no effort lmao, the Groza in 5,45

[frail spire]

Yes, the zone provides more often than not

also is it even bullying to just point out why it wouldn't work in this particular game/IP?

the whole suggestions thing

people love to suggest stuff without even taking 5 minutes thinking how they would implement it, nor how it would work nor how it can be balanced

[crystal bane]

Yo guys

I discovered a STALKER RP game in Roblox.It's pretty decent,and I recommend you play it.

[hazy helm]

No thanks

[crystal bane]

I was expecting this response.

[solid dome]

2x

I prefer spending time walking around outside than playing mindless games

[frail spire]

sorry but I'm above the age of consent so I can't take part of anything roblox related since I cannot be groomed

[finite dragon]

Guys is there emmisions in SoC ive never seen one in mah life

[split adder]

Nope, not in ShoC

[finite summit]

Only when story needs it

[finite dragon]

Thats a shame. Guess ill have to speedrun into clear sky

[daring reef]

I want to speedrun Chernobyl.

[solid dome]

Its spelled Chortnobyl now

The Zone had some copyright issues

One individual threw a DMCA letter at its inbox, The Zone refused, then was sued and had to comply

[fickle sparrow]

Isn't Chornobyl the Ukrainian spelling?

[daring reef]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

Epic embed fail

[solid dome]

It is, however since we have no actual information how the development goes, it's Chortnobyl

Posting again > https://strawpoll.com/polls/poy9RoL98nJ > Vote if you will

[finite summit]

Copenobyl

[frail spire]

I'll just call it as I'm used to

[finite dragon]

wheres a good place to get mods for shadow of chernobyl? im honestly looking for shitposty ones

[hazy helm]

Soup mods,search for OP2.2

that should have a good enuff translation

[finite dragon]

👍

[solid dome]

Comrades, please take some seconds and fill in this poll
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScloAVwQUe-Jd0K_Pe1H9L-ldN9m4eA21Ndq8PuvdXrqiTxyg/viewform?usp=sf_link

I've reworked it and added the question from Strawpoll too

[hazy helm]

whats the point

[solid dome]

It says whats the point

Self Experiment
Let's see how much people care.

[potent bluff]

Ok I answered it

[solid dome]

Appreciated, stalker

[fickle sparrow]

Red Forest is spooky city, but I got a SVD :D

[fickle sparrow]

holy mother of God this thing slaps

I have never felt so much power than I am feeling at this very moment, it's no wonder ammo for this game is extremely sparse

[fickle sparrow]

||okay how tf do I get this guy to stop talking in my ear every 6 seconds in the Power Plant, is there like a thing I have to do? It feels like Joe Biden trying to sniff me||

[regal tangle]

nothing you can do about it

just keep going

[crystal bane]

You can't do nothing,all you can do is to embrace the voice and join Za Monolit.

[sand fiber]

strelok... idi ko mne... second explosion... 13/06... cnpp... strelok... idi ko mne...

[fickle sparrow]

I'm ngl

[nimble cipher]

GamersCave#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fickle sparrow]

||These teleporters outside Chernobyl are really annoying. Like it has sort of killed the mood I was in and I have to watch a how to video because there's 15 OF THEM and the wiki isn't very helpful||

[regal tangle]

are you playing a standalone version?

[fickle sparrow]

Vanilla story, I'm basically at the end

[wet flame]

Granted, the final part of the game is challenging, but not because of the teleport jumps

[devout zealot]

That part of the game is ass

[finite summit]

you gotta make player go through some bullshіt cbt so that he can appreciate the good stuff

[wind glacier]

only part where i save scum hard

[finite summit]

skill issue

[worthy lagoon]

Tags: Brain--

[finite dragon]

there filled it out for you

[finite dragon]

one of us

one of us

[split adder]

The jumps are the best part

[solid dome]

[midnight cradle]

i just started doing the mission where you have to fill up a car and drive it to the military in stalker soc but i just cant open the trunk, has anyone had this issue?

[hazy helm]

🤨 you mean OGSR?you need to go to the front of the car

there are no vehicles in SoC,CS or COP

[midnight cradle]

it tells me to press tab but nothing happens

idk why

[rotund fox]

Rebind the control to some other key in keybinds

[hazy helm]

go to the front of the Zhaporozhiets and open the trunk,talk to wolf and he'll put the weapons in the car,go to the back of the car with a gas can in your inventory and fill it using a key (check your controls-keybinds to see which),enter the car and start it up (check keybinds if you dunno)

[rotund fox]

Nah i get why he's confused, it tells you to press something completely different from what you binded it too

[hazy helm]

yhea,wonder which repack of OGSR he's playing,or if her's playing OGSE

[midnight cradle]

after trying to alt tab it opened and now works for some reason

thx for the help

[rotund fox]

@hazy helm How far have you gotten with with OP?

[hazy helm]

I am currently wrapped under a timesink known as Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous and will be with it for the foreseeable future

[rotund fox]

I gotta admit the gameplay of the mod sucks and nothing makes sense

"Go clear out a boar lair, as a reward il give you some shells you just expended clearing out the lair"

[hazy helm]

such is the nature of Soup Mods,I'm mostly just there to be stunned at how nonsensical it can get,and I am unhappy that they nerfed artifacts

I WANNA BE GOD
I should be able to become god with artifacts,tahts the charm
why did you nerf them

[frail spire]

no matter what version of ogse you play they all have this annoying habit of making you go back and forth

[hazy helm]

thats the nature of fetch quests

OGSE loves fetch quests

[frail spire]

also giving quests that have some "puzzle" in it but never give you the puzzle hints

like the safe from digger

how tf were you meant to know that the combination is the ogse version you're playing in

[hazy helm]

with online guides of course

[frail spire]

also a bunch of their fetch quests force you to have like 30+ kgs of dead inventory bloat from quest items

like the boxes for mole in garbage

"haha just give them one by one" yes let me go back and forth 3 times and deal with the bandits that respawn directly on front of the map limiter and dying like 4 times trying to dodge 6 bandits firing at you at the same time

[hazy helm]

it would be fine if mole had a contact inside garbage and you could talk to him to set everything up,and if agropom turned into a genuinely good place to bunker down and stuff but no

[frail spire]

current playthrought is bugged because it keeps saying "save the stalkers" but I already killed everything

there was also the quest to help the deserter that also got bugged and was left with no other choice but to gun the guy down

I'm starting to wonder if I should just ignore all quests and just try to do the main story ones properly

because all ogse quest decisions were terrible

[hazy helm]

OGSE is buggy,I'd tell you to play the newest OGSR but I personally dislike GA a lot,I recommend serega's repack even tho it still has problems

[rotund fox]

Honestly that has more to do with the fact that every single mod back in the day used the SOC storyline as base to mod on

And the SoC storyline sucks hard

From Cordon go to dump, to Agroprom, to dump, to bar, back to dump, to dark valley, to cordon, to dump, to bar, to wild territory and so on

[hazy helm]

by that he means the AMK restored storyline

[finite dragon]

i wonder what its like to get head from a bloodsucker

[finite dragon]

[hazy helm]

wtf,who the hell starts a conversation like that

[rotund fox]

I never played AMK so idk what that means

[finite dragon]

I do

[nimble cipher]

penguino#8406 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite dragon]

AUGH

[hazy helm]

AMK is a cut content restoration mod that most SoC mods use as a base when they want content restored along side their own content

[finite dragon]

weirdo

[rotund fox]

Point is the SOC storyline just doesn't work for mods that have crapton of content(like OGSE) and they should have used literally anything else as the foundation to build the mod

[solid dome]

You know about the song titled "The Freaks Come Out"? Well there ye go

[frail spire]

honestly what they should have done is just "oh you completed the quest heres the money reward"

in a pda message and not having to haul ass back to the quest giver unless it's a story related quest

[hazy helm]

PDA is now a phone,message the guy to tell him the request is done

[frail spire]

I mean, you could simply use a contacts tab with quest givers like sid and barman with small envelopes from messages saying "Marked One, this request came in"

and have it be both timed to pick up and timed to complete

and have the quest that give something big like a gun to end at "after all the work you've done for me I think you deserve a little extra"

there, I just made the whole quest system to be way more bearable to deal with

you'll still need to walk back to the traders anyways to sell your stuff

[solid dome]

Being in Rostok and you have to go back to Cordon...

[frail spire]

more like, be in dark valley and you have to go back to rostok

[solid dome]

At least let the player call for Uber or smth

See

Why not have crafting in ST2 to do your own light vehicles, like, a bycicle or smth

A tricycle even

Vrooom vroom, running over bloodsuckers

[frail spire]

why not have an extremelly overpriced guide system that you could get in some special way in all maps after doing a very long quest chain

[sturdy zodiac]

I believe there's a mod in Dark Signal that does that

[frail spire]

I believe fast travel as your main way of mobility is bad, but in late game the player will more often than not will just need a way to move quick to tie up remaining quests, look for certain special items, do a puzzle they maybe left for later

so it's not so bad when say, you're like at maybe 5 quests away from the end so you get a fast travel

[hazy helm]

fast travel in itself is bad but I see nothing wrong with guides taking you to certain outposts

[frail spire]

I said late game, think like MGSV has those delivery services

[hazy helm]

only if the quest has you do some conveluted and very very time consuming and expensive thing

[frail spire]

thats literally what I said

it should be either actually hard to get and expensive

lock it behind a hard quest chain

and have it be really expensive the deeper into the zone you want to go

[fickle sparrow]

So what am I looking forward to in Clear Sky? SoC was fun if a bit linear and I know CS is a prequel so I'm hoping for plenty to do

[frail spire]

think like how in CoP you had a guide in pripyat and you could freely mode from there to everywhere else and every other hub had a guide as well

CS is very experimental

you may either love it or hate it honestly

[fickle sparrow]

ight cool

I'm gonna beat SoC today and start downloading it. also gonna buy CoP

wow CoP has a 95% on Steam

I wasn't expecting that lol

[frail spire]

probably from anomaly players who went into the page to vote that

[fickle sparrow]

is Anomaly for CoP?

[frail spire]

Anomaly is a standalone

[hazy helm]

no taht would be COC

[frail spire]

that does use the CoP engine

oh yeah also CoC pretty much spawned from there

and to this day everyone uses some kind of CoC derivative

[solid dome]

Thank god the makers of that mod didn't do the typo there

Shame also they didn't add cock fights in Freedom's camp

[whole cove]

@everyone

[frail spire]

probably a bot

[dry imp]

i truly agree

[jaunty mason]

fun fact, this pinged nobody.

[midnight cradle]

btw, how do i get fuel in the first place?

i couldnt find anyone selling it

[hazy helm]

you can ping me
youll find it in the bandit village close to the truck or in the barn past the military checkpoint

[midnight cradle]

i feel dumb now because i sold a lot of stuff thinking that i would have to buy it lol

[fickle sparrow]

Beat Shadow of Chernobyl and got two endings, because I reloaded a save and went a different direction

how many are there?

[hazy helm]

like 6+2?

[fickle sparrow]

I got the true ending which is good

Now I can finally start playing Clear Sky :D

[hazy helm]

nice

[fickle sparrow]

hope you STALKERS are proud of me for doing it the kino way first

[worthy lagoon]

Have fun

[drifting gate]

[modest moth]

Got the Lynx

Is it any good?

[modest moth]

Guys I have contracted AHAD

"Artifact Hunting Addiction Disorder"

[modest moth]

I hope you have patience

The weapon spread is absolutely broken in Clear Sky, and the beginning is kinda awful

[fickle sparrow]

haven't been having fun trying to find a vanilla gun mod that actually works

Arsenal is apparently broken

and STCS only supports SRP up to 1.1.2

[modest moth]

They literally expect you to clear out hordes of Renegades with only a TOZ-66 and a PMm

And the sniping is borderline impossible without a real sniper like a Vintar

Anything else is fine

[fickle sparrow]

why isn't there an OWR3 for Clear Sky

I just want BETTER vanilla gun models, I don't need all these new weapons and ammo types

[modest moth]

Any good weapon model pack for COP?

[fickle sparrow]

wdym?

[modest moth]

And if so, how do I apply it?

[fickle sparrow]

no clue man, never played COP

[drifting gate]

COP is pretty good I'm playing through it rn

I finished SoC amazing game but I think I'm slowly loving COP more

[fickle sparrow]

I honestly can't believe how every gun mod for CS seems to add a bunch of junk on top of the HD weapon models I want. It's like the people who made these are incapable of just making a simple, one use mod

[sand fiber]

why

[jaunty mason]

...hear me out on this one

maybe it's because he wants a good weapon model pack for COP

[sand fiber]

usually people want them for no other reason than just "vanilla bad mod good"

[fickle sparrow]

ngl

the models in CS are just bad, in fact I am pretty sure they're the exact same ones from SoC

which is why I am utterly confused as to why there isn't a simple model update mod

unless someone can walk me through getting Arsenal to actually launch properly, I dunno

[limpid salmon]

vanilla best

[sand fiber]

not really, they're reworked to fit the look of the game

[fickle sparrow]

the vanilla sights on the sawed off are nay unusable, OWR3 made them bearable

[sand fiber]

tho can feel kinda plastic-y

[limpid salmon]

if you need sights on a shotgun, then you need a rifle

[fickle sparrow]

I like ADS'ing a weapon and not being able to count the polygons

@sand fiber do you have much experience with Arsenal or some other vanilla-ish gun mod?

[sand fiber]

nah, never modded vanilla games

[modest moth]

The animations get repetitive because since CS they've been just recycled animations

[sand fiber]

i'd suggest to just cope with original weapons, cop has the same ones and there aren't good wps either

[modest moth]

And I want to pimp up my guns a bit

Anyways, any good artifact spots near Skadovsk?

[modest moth]

Just collected the FT-200M

Nimble truly is a chad

Screw you Snag

Found the idiot being wounded by a Bandit

I put him down and got a Black Kite

[frosty ember]

K.

[modest moth]

Wiped out the Bandit base on the container warehouse with it; saved Mitay

Also the games AI breaks momentarily when you kill the trenchcoat guys with a silenced weapon in the garage: Until they take damage or see you or "see" the bodies of the 2 trenchcoat Bandits they will act as if you were never there, allowing you to take some down with no damage, not alerting the base until you come out of the garage.

Also applies when you kill the Bandit camp leader when you try to pay off Vano's debt

[hazy helm]

they give you an AK and a mag to ration

it's very easy to kill renegades using the PMM and ambush them using the toz

Get close and actually engage in a fight rather than trying to cheese everything from 250meters away

[modest moth]

i did lmao

i got close, rationed out AK and the 5.45

the shotgunners are just pure annoying

[hazy helm]

If you're feeling like it's hard try and turn the difficulty down

[gilded sentinel]

Just remember that faction wars in ck are complete garbage , and you should not even remotely interfere in it , after the swamps

[hazy helm]

Get good rewards,ez farm money

[modest moth]

Going to Pripyat already, time to do more walking sim tasks

[jaunty mason]

[crystal bane]

I can't disagree with the gun feeling though.Vanilla CoP's gun feeling is shit.That's why I use Gunslinger.

The only problem is that controllers are way too f--king overpowered.

[finite dragon]

Ayo whassup fellow stalkers?

[white tendon]

air, sometimes a roof

[finite dragon]

Or a whirligig

I tell ya, those keep kicking me down in Clear Sky lol

Sometimes I forget they exist cause their so hard to see haha

[white tendon]

shoutout to my f9 key for staying strong while i went through cs

[finite dragon]

Nah, I'm not one for hotkeys

Healing via inventory no matter what

Shootouts, anomalies, always heal through inventory

[paper current]

Is playing Clear Sky worth it? I loved SoC and I'm currently playing CoP. I tried Clear Sky back in the day, but it felt so lackluster.
Worth giving it another try?

[hazy helm]

Clear Sky is a great game,feels like the progression of many mechanics and methodologies from SoC,it's buggy but it's got a lot of heart

[paper current]

Great to hear, thanks for the feedback

[frail spire]

CS is an experimental game that adds a bunch of mechanics that should have been in SoC

I said it before but CS is one of those "love it or hate it" games

Really up to whos playing it

also CoP is the game with the most polished gameplay so if you played CoP before the others you may end up feeling a little dejected

[hazy helm]

maybe it's bc of it's nature but COP feels stipped back and down from CS and SOC,like it lost so much to be the most consistent

[frail spire]

It's because CoP dialed back on the atmosphere and story

bunch of open spaces, way less situations that made you be tense, really condensed areas where you had a bunch of stuff to do in but outside of those specific areas there wasn't a reason to wander around

like, you don't have an agroprom underground moment where you really panic trying to know what to do

at best you have the bloodsuckers den which is scripted

[solid dome]

Bugs GSC didn't fix for eternity, they were planning NFTs (before cancelling them) all the time, hella busy thinking about polishing things that don't make sense.

[rotund fox]

@frail spire I understand what you meant by OGSE's obnoxious quest design now, but what i don't understand is why it becomes a shtpost halfway through the game?

I enter dead city and 3 seconds later get teleported into a house with 2 controllers and 10 zombies surrounding me, wtf?
Were they on drugs when they made this?

[solid dome]

Lol!!

I played OGSE, didn't experience such OGSExperience

Woops turned out a naughty one

[rotund fox]

So am i doing something wrong? Can i not go to dead city yet?

[solid dome]

I have no memories of OGSE anymore

[hazy helm]

I actually like Dead City's quest,I think it's actually good but,it has some tedious fetch quests

||dont go to the city at night its [{redacted}]||

[solid dome]

Lol!!!

[rotund fox]

How are you supposed to know this lmao

[hazy helm]

if you are like me you dont,you survive till morning and go to the rescue

[rotund fox]

And the enchanted teddy bear says it has some advice for me and then tells me nothing?

[hazy helm]

it's...easier said than done

[solid dome]

Dead City... A place people don't come back from.

[rotund fox]

I think im just going to speedrun this in godmode now

[solid dome]

Self explanatory boe

Enable Noclip - only if we had one

[hazy helm]

lead a save befroe dead city and skip to morning

its better trust me

[rotund fox]

Nah between this and having to run around the zone collecting some code i think im done

What a waste of a mod, damn

[solid dome]

Never beaten OGSE

Is it that bad?

[hazy helm]

OGSR was fun,had fun doing it,liked some quests more than others,thought it was very funny they had me killing a tank as the last enemy

[solid dome]

😄

[rotund fox]

You have to go from Radar to Yantar to Agro underground to Army warehouses to dead city collecting the code to shut down the brain scorcher

Yea it's pretty bad, and more importantly it wastes your time for no real reason

[solid dome]

Oh boy

[rotund fox]

Why doctor couldn't give you the case from the second time you go to Agro underground i don't know but whatever i guess

[paper current]

Is there a mod which adds the improvements of CoP to CS, while leaving it as vanilla as possible?

If I remember the whole equipment and artifact System was not as pronounced in CS

[hazy helm]

sorry?I dont understand

[frail spire]

He wants less jank

[hazy helm]

the only mod I can recommend is SRP with no optional mods

[finite dragon]

Honestly, I'm with you on the equipment and artifacts thing but with SoC. I haven't played much CoP but from what I can tell SoC has the layout better than CS for being able to find artifacts easier and plus the pricing system is a lot friendlier when buying gear

[hazy helm]

the Artifact system in CS is the first implementation of the detector system,meanwhile artifacts randomly appear on the maps in SOC

[paper current]

Thanks for the suggestion!

Was upgrading gear already possible in CS?

[finite dragon]

Yeah it was

Not in vanilla SoC tho

SoC kinda renders unique gear inevitably useless

[hazy helm]

it is and it is almost a requirement

[rotund fox]

You should at least try to start the game before you mod it

[finite dragon]

I've been playing all vanilla with CS and SoC and ngl the only mods I'm considering are Golden Sphere and a gear repair mod for SoC

[hazy helm]

Golden Sphere is a story mod,its not emant to be a first playthru mod

[paper current]

Haha, I remember when I found an exoskeleton at the Chernobyl plant at the end of the game in SoC and after trying it I had to immediately switch back to my scientist suit, because the radiation ate my flesh at an alarming rate

SoC with the new systems of the newer titles would be great

Stalker 2, pls be decent

[finite dragon]

Holding out for Stalker 2 to be a masterpiece like SoC

[dry imp]

if they ever finish it

[finite dragon]

Hopefully it won't be like "The Haunted" Minecraft project

[dry imp]

what

[finite dragon]

You play MC?

[dry imp]

yes

wtf is "The Haunted" and how does that have anything to do with stalker

[paper current]

Sounds spooky

[finite dragon]

Well back in the day, there was this MC series called The Haunted. It was a masterpiece for MC fans back then when we was kids, and there was this remaster that was supposed to do the WHOLE series again but then it turned out that all the funds for the project given by patrons was spent on weed

[dry imp]

lmao thats just funny

[paper current]

We need haunted Minecraft porn, scaring away our young from early onset pornography addiction

[finite dragon]

It had SUCH a hype and it gutted the fans of the series including myself

[dry imp]

what.

[finite dragon]

Cheeki breeki stops

[paper current]

Haha

[dry imp]

idk i do somewhat suspect gsc just could run off with the preorder money

[paper current]

Like porn with jumpscares

[dry imp]

but i really dont think so because its not that much

[paper current]

I don't think xo

[dry imp]

make it a one-handed mode

[hazy helm]

nha they have legal obligations,its not a kickstarter project

[paper current]

I have zero evidence but somehow I trust the devs

[dry imp]

oh right, investors

[hazy helm]

exactly

[paper current]

The Stalker games are made with so much Passion

And flavor

[finite dragon]

I mean, GSC might just be delayed with the progress of the war but hopefully they won't blow the cash on Freedomer x Bloodsucker NFTs. Then again, wouldn't be surprised, I'm still new to this franchise lol

No offense to my Freedomers haha

[paper current]

The horror

[finite dragon]

That'd be pretty funny tho ngl

I mean, Bloodsucker? More like BloodSUCC

[hazy helm]

right...

[finite dragon]

Jokes jokes

Only thing those beasts gotta suck on is some .45 ACP

[paper current]

Lmao

Mutants deserve love too

[dry imp]

freedomer spotted

[paper current]

It's not their fault that the exist and need to survive

I leave roaming mutants mostly alone, live and let live

[finite dragon]

I mean, sometimes I just let them go by but it ain't gonna stop me from protecting myself

[paper current]

And because there's no tangible reward for killing them

A crafting system with mutant parts could be fun

[finite dragon]

I think artifact parts should be in Stalker 2, it'd be so baller

[dry imp]

or just a slaughter mechanic so you can selll their meat

[dry imp]

Amnesia Orb

[finite dragon]

is that a mod?

[dry imp]

Amnesia? the game?

[finite dragon]

Ah, ain't played that

[dry imp]

[finite dragon]

Don't worry, I HAVE played Half-Life to make up for that

[dry imp]

all expansions and episodes?

[finite dragon]

As in Blue Shift, Opposition Force, HL, HL2, HL2-1 and HL2-2? Yes

[dry imp]

and entropy zero?

and its sequel?

[finite dragon]

I have tried to run Black Mesa on my laptop but it's kinda intense for the specs I have on my laptop

[dry imp]

i highly recommend the entropy zero games

entropy zero 2 is the closest we are getting to half life 3

[finite dragon]

I'll look into it

Ngl, LOVED the first Half Life

So tasteful and simple

DOOM 1993 level of basic storytelling and lack of tutorial

[worthy lagoon]

??

[solid dome]

Spend the money on Pepsi, blame thirst

[dry imp]

have you played it?

[worthy lagoon]

EH2 is NOT HL3, it's a spinoff mod about a combine soldier

[dry imp]

i never said it was half life 3 my guy, i said its the closest we are getting to it

it fits into the lore so well

[finite dragon]

I thought that was HL:A

[worthy lagoon]

Project Borealis would be the closest one

[solid dome]

Half-Life 3 happens when everyone stops buying games from all other companies but EA.

[dry imp]

no

[dry imp]

i thought that never came out

[worthy lagoon]

HL:A is a different timeline created by G-Man to prevent the death of our boi Eli Vance

So you can call it a "sequel"

[finite dragon]

Ah

[worthy lagoon]

Even if it's a prequel but it's not

[dry imp]

its a weird timeloopy thing

hla is also really good

[pseudo rivet]

If there's a Half-Life: Alyx, when will we get Half-Life: Gordon?

[dry imp]

literally all the games are that

[finite dragon]

Could you imagine how cool it would be if Valve did like another Orange Box deal with the magic 3s rather than drop the games separately? TF3, HL3 and Portal 3 with all the good links between like chef's kiss

[dry imp]

portal 3 couldn't happen because it just ends after 2

[pseudo rivet]

No way bro, there's Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2 and all the other versions

[dry imp]

team fortress 3 wont happen because there is no point

half life 3 wont happen because they don't care

[pseudo rivet]

Medic still needs a sandvich

[finite dragon]

Okay you're not wrong about Team Fortress

But there's hints for HL3 and let's be real, Portal 2 kinda left on a cliffhanger

[pseudo rivet]

Not really, tbh

[dry imp]

half life 3 "hints" are all jokes

also portal 2 literally ends, there's nothing else to go off of

[pseudo rivet]

Other character is possible, I suppose

[dry imp]

maybe

[finite dragon]

Okay, how about instead of Half Life 3, we gave Adrian Shepherd some love and give him another game with Barney in it?

[dry imp]

he is in stasis

[finite dragon]

Exactly

[dry imp]

there is a mod project called into the city that's essentially op4 2

[pseudo rivet]

Have you guys heard of this really cool game called Hunt Down The Freeman? I really recommend playing it

[dry imp]

opinion discarded

[pseudo rivet]

[frail spire]

AAAHHHHHH YOU F* UP MY FACE

[nimble cipher]

ArgenAnon#7418 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[dry imp]

oh no its "Through The City"

[finite dragon]

What IF they did Half Life 3 but it did a perspective shift with the key characters of Gordon, Shepherd, Alyx and Barney in a kind of Tenet sense?

Like you THINK it doesn't make sense with the shifts but then at the finale it all comes together

[frail spire]

what if hl3 never comes out because fans are idiots and basically hyped the game to death

[dry imp]

honestly i think barney is dead because the last you see him is the end of ep1

[pseudo rivet]

Half-Life 3 will be like Smash, because everyone will be there

[frail spire]

causing volvo to go "lmao no way were releasing this"

[pseudo rivet]

Even Heavy TF2

[frail spire]

same reason people will never get another Team Fortress

[pseudo rivet]

Getting a new TF is just a bad idea

[frail spire]

no matter what they release people will say it's inferior to the old one

[finite dragon]

Ach, a Valve Smash Bros would be supreme garbage

[frail spire]

and they'll just lose money

[dry imp]

also i think its cool if half life just ends after half life alyx, honestly i think thats how they wanted it

the cliffhangers are intentional

[finite dragon]

Well, Valve COULD do an independent thing, like they did in the first place with Half Life

Something out there

[dry imp]

what does that mean

you mean a new ip?

[frail spire]

they can't the brand is simply too famous

[dry imp]

a whole new franchise?

[frail spire]

and doing a new IP will just cause fanboys to go "grrr you do new ip but no HL3?"

[dry imp]

i dont think they will ever do that because they greedy as the rest of the AAA market

[finite dragon]

Ya got me there, didn't think about that

Eh, either way, at the end of the day, we'll hold out for Stalker 2 haha

[dry imp]

just face it, valve doesn't care anymore, they only develop what makes them money now

[frail spire]

valvo isn't just dumb enough to kill their goodwill as a storefront by releasing anything that isn't a tech demo

since people will just get buttloucasted since it's not HL3 or a new TF

[pseudo rivet]

Volvo isn't smart enough to do anything, tbf

[frail spire]

or a new L4D for that matter

[pseudo rivet]

Already exists, it's called Darktide

[dry imp]

actually no, they are very very intelligent with their decisions, the best of the best work there, its just they only care about money

[finite dragon]

Will say, not really looking forward to any new DOOM games

[dry imp]

are any new doom games coming?

[finite dragon]

I doubt it

[dry imp]

then what do you mean

[pseudo rivet]

Play something you never have before

Like DOOM 3

[finite dragon]

No thanks, I like keeping my braincells

[dry imp]

doom 3 vr

[pseudo rivet]

Your loss

[devout canyon]

i guess no !wolfcheer command anymore

[dry imp]

!wolfcheer

good

[pseudo rivet]

The moment you play DOOM 3 as a horror game, you're not playing a DOOM game anymore

[devout canyon]

old Wolf pfp was cool tho

[pseudo rivet]

Finally

[dry imp]

dont you play as a random guy in doom 3

[devout canyon]

why finally

[pseudo rivet]

Because it was lame

[finite dragon]

Pretty much why I can't vibe with it

[pseudo rivet]

Basically

[frail spire]

Doom 3 was fine, people can't stop masturbating over doomguy

[dry imp]

it isnt really a sequel if you dont play as the slayer

[frail spire]

The spiders in Doom 3 were things of nightmares

[pseudo rivet]

Slayer became a thing with 2016

[dry imp]

its the same guy, you know what i mean

[pseudo rivet]

Doomguy baseder

[devout canyon]

I need and

bread and energy_drink

[pseudo rivet]

Pretty sure it's Doomguy, Doom Marine and Doomslayer, which they made to be the Doomguy of old

[dry imp]

im the doom man

[devout canyon]

: Never forget this thing

[frail spire]

I'm the coom man

[finite dragon]

I like to think that Doomguy became the Slayer after the events of DOOM 64 because that link makes sense but there is that kinda inconsistency about DOOM 3 with the rest of the franchise because what the hell even happened afterwards

[pseudo rivet]

Ngl, kinda 2016 and Eternal's fault for not having DOOM 3 have any meaning

[dry imp]

they were reboots so why would they

[finite dragon]

Personally, I think the leap between 2016 and Eternal was WAY too big

[dry imp]

i disagree

[pseudo rivet]

DOOM 3 introduced UAC and Mars

[frail spire]

I thought they were going to use doom 3 to reboot the whole series into the marine from 3 becoming the doomguy after his fight with the boss in d3

And just roll with that

[dry imp]

it was already on mars in doom 93

literally uac logo is plastered everywhere

[pseudo rivet]

Bro guess I'm ultra stupid

[frail spire]

But then the new dooms came out and just made d3 pointless

[finite dragon]

Oh no, the big leap I'm referring to is the gaps in the story of the Slayer

[dry imp]

what gaps

[devout canyon]

[frail spire]

I still liked d3, game felt more like a legit horror game rather than the autismal run and gun

[pseudo rivet]

But yeah, DOOM 3 is the black sheep and, at least to my knowledge, 2016 and Eternal haven't given the game any significance

[finite dragon]

Specifically what happened to the Slayer between the end of 2016 and Eternal is what I feel needs explaining. Where he went, how he survived, where he got the new gear and crib from, all the Makyr stuff as well

[pseudo rivet]

It's a more "realistic" gritty taste on demonic stuff while still being run and gun

[frail spire]

In fact the movie with the rock was far more not-doom than d3

[dry imp]

and i feel like horror would work because you are not the doom guy so you are not as powerful

i should give doom 3 a try

[pseudo rivet]

The only thing that movie is actually known for is the 1st person scene

[frail spire]

Man that movie was so dumb, the only good thing was the first person scene

[pseudo rivet]

Indeed you should

[finite dragon]

I find it so sad that I actually prefer the Doom movie with the Rock over Doom Annihilation

[dry imp]

its on gamepass ill download it there

[pseudo rivet]

Logically

[frail spire]

I liked the movie, but it was really dumb

[finite dragon]

No demons, just space zombies

[frail spire]

Problem is that in the movie they tried to make it logical when in d3 you literally see a guy get possesed while theres flaming skulls flying around

[pseudo rivet]

Basically

Only problem with DOOM 3 is that the shotgun is too much of a melee weapon for my taste

[frail spire]

And they tried to make it logical but then instantly falling on some esoterical bs of "evil gene"

[dry imp]

they tried to make it like an infection?

[finite dragon]

A 24th chromosome

[frail spire]

They tried to make it as if humans had some weird gene that either turns you into a gigachad or a rambling lunatic

[pseudo rivet]

Hollywood, amirite

[frail spire]

Also the character whos suppossed to be the smart one gets overshadowed by the main character whos a literal merc with no real education

Also Doom AnalInsertion was a travesty of a movie

[finite dragon]

Word

[pseudo rivet]

The only thing people actually liked in the movie

https://youtu.be/-Jf-E7oEguU

[finite dragon]

That scene was pretty cool, but still kinda flawed really

[frail spire]

Yeah the FPS section made me feel it was the director going "don't care anymore do whatever you want nerds"

[dry imp]

thats most video game movies

they never played the game so they just say "eh go for it"

[dry imp]

also just watched that clip, this is the best thing from that movie? holy hell it must've been so bad

[pseudo rivet]

Basically

[dry imp]

also they literally are using a g36

[pseudo rivet]

Yep

[dry imp]

they didn't bother to make a sci fi gun?

[pseudo rivet]

Nope

Should've used C&C's AK, ngl

[dry imp]

or at least just throw stuff onto the g36 to make it look scifi

[pseudo rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/882276477767393370/Nod_Assault_Rifle.jpg

Based Nod machine gun

[opaque parrot]

The opressors must die!

Hold your weapons high!

[solid dome]

Still have to play the new Dooms

[limpid salmon]

is there a free mode in COP?

after u finished the main missions?

[finite summit]

yes

you just have to click the correct button at the end of the final mission

[solid dome]

Do you want to get back to the Zone?

You bet!

[limpid salmon]

too low on 5.56, didn't find any monoliths to loot

and sellers dont always have a lot

[pseudo rivet]

Guess you'll have to aim for the head now, saves ammo

[limpid salmon]

I do

but full auto goes brrrrrr also it barely has any recoil, guess I'll have to take my AC96

[frail spire]

can't you just switch to single fire

am I misremembering?

maybe I got mod rot

[limpid salmon]

you can

but again, due to the lack of recoil, you can spray full auto and hit atleast 80% of the time

[sand fiber]

how much do you have to hate the gunplay to sacrifice visual consistency, original design and balance
what's up with en stalker players caring about guns a bit too much my goodness

[frail spire]

I mean, when I first played it I also though that monkeys did the gunplay

[carmine crest]

i like the vanilla guns, its a bit irritating shooting guys at a distance and having the bullet land completely off from where I shot from, but its not that bad

[sullen dagger]

In Clear Sky, beginning area where you need to go defend the tower outpost thing, can you literally just.... leave the area and not do that?

I'm doing it right now and nothing is stopping me....

wait, can I leave the Swamps before completeing the first quest (before the first emission. -not including beginning cutscene)

nope, nevermind, the emission will start anyways

I'm gonna find an emission shelter to survive it.

welp I got within about 5 feet of an emission shelter before not being able to. maybe I gotta start at the very beginning. this is all for science

Holy what. you can actually survive the first emission

oh wait nope, nevermind the game's broken.

[fickle sparrow]

PLEASE tell me you can remove the weapon sway in CS

I'm so used to SoC having little that it feels so jarring having to account for it

[finite dragon]

Alright who’s ready for a big dumb idiot question

What even is clear sky (I’ve only gotten like, 1/3 through SoC :( )

[sand fiber]

A faction and the name of the second stalker game

[finite dragon]

I mean I knew that much, but like, what do they do, what are their motives and such

[sand fiber]

They will tell you in the game

[finite dragon]

[weak shuttle]

I'm watching Fear the walking dead... all these talks of powerplants and zombies makes me wanna replay the STALKER games

[hearty vigil]

Yes, guides don’t work. You can get to Lebedev through OOB but the game will be broken, e.g. the faction war will start but you won’t become a CS member.

[glacial vessel]

anyone know how much the stalker games cost when they are on discount?

[modest moth]

so basically,
CoP and SoC are 5 bucks each, and CS is 8 bucks

still expensive for filipino standards, will have to stick with a crack until i can buy them :(((

[hazy helm]

thanks

[worthy lagoon]

There's no way for that

[glacial vessel]

that sounds pretty good, will definitely have to catch them when the next sale drops

[worthy lagoon]

My man, did you even listened to Lebedev

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1037432797188595722.png?quality=lossless&size=48

You will survive to the emission on the outpost

Because Scar he's one of the very few who can survive to some emissions

[cyan canopy]

[edgy narwhal]

Why he is chosen one

[modest moth]

stair lock

[finite summit]

Wait

Didn't Steelock also survive an emission

at the end of Clear Sky

never actually noticed that part

[hazy helm]

||he was knocked out due to the altered Gauss gun and then brain wahsed to be a double agent for the C-Con||

[young lichen]

Gunslinger

[modest moth]

SteerLook

[young lichen]

He is really Gunslinger, if you didn't know

It's just that there is no such word in Russian and Ukrainian

Just Strelok

[amber tendon]

Bridget from guilty gear strive and Strelok from shadow of Chernobyl collab announcment will

[native ibex]

I think all the devs were drafted

[hazy helm]

stop speaking in moon speak and explain to me what the hell you just said

[amber tendon]

The Arc system and GSC will collab to make a new fighting game

[hazy helm]

FPS where I can kill cartoons?not bad idea...

[modest moth]

Not really, only some went to the lines

[native ibex]

Think we'll get any news?

[solid dome]

2 packs of smokes?

[hearty vigil]

He’s trying to break the game if I understood it right.

[solid dome]

Attention , STALKERS 📣... If you are a music enjoyer and you want to refresh your playlists or you feel like helping us out expand our library of sounds, you are welcome to join ☢️ "Lone in the Zone, the ultimate source of atmospheric music for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fans", a side project I started early this year:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12eVK8ItlIJyYiO4kbcIYodYwmTECvf3-X2RRxVqHmdo/edit?usp=sharing

Tracks added in the catalogue as of today:
1️⃣6️⃣6️⃣

[rotund fox]

"Why do people care about gunplay in their First Person Shooter game? Man i just... i can't get to the bottom of it"

[raven raptor]

iirc it's cop, not soc where you have to shoot all the time, like half of the tasks you could do without single bullet shot

[hexed wren]

i love janky gunplay games gotta be one of my favorite genders

stalker, fnv, fc2

[native ibex]

I think every first person shooter should feel like Fallout 3

[hexed wren]

if u classify stalker as solely an fps then ya youll have a problem

[cyan canopy]

Clear Sky weapon spread

[frail spire]

Like trash and have no ADS?

[glacial vessel]

Packs are like 10€ a piece here so almost!

[solid dome]

5 here

[robust hollow]

GL solved most of my problems

Mutants yes Military yes Duty yes Bandits Yes Stalkers ofcourse

[hazy helm]

GL?what

[rotund fox]

Grenade launcher

[hazy helm]

Ha

[jaunty mason]

Agreed

Got some monolith super soldiers in your way? kthunk not any more.

[rotund fox]

It's a fully automatic coilgun with many varieties of munition for me

[sand fiber]

^^^

[worthy lagoon]

what

[hazy helm]

Grenade Launcher

[limpid salmon]

honestly all 3 stalker games were on sale on steam for close to nothing

[hazy helm]

They go on sale everytime there's a bit seasonal sale an then some more randomly

Either way you'll be notified when it happens they usually ping us for that

[rotund fox]

"S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is a first-person-shooter survival horror video game series developed by GSC Game World."
Wanting better gunplay in a game you spend a lot of time using guns isn't a sin, cry about it

Maybe if STALKER was primarily about exploration and adventures then yea gunplay wouldn't be so important, but it's not

[limpid salmon]

stalker 2 shouldn't tell you how many bullets you have left in the magazine

[rotund fox]

why

[frail spire]

Why not, stalker was never a "muh realism" shooter

[rotund fox]

But not telling you have many bullets you have left is exactly a "muh realism" feature?

[frail spire]

no I meant, "Why not be able to see a counter in the bottom of the screen?"

not too arcade-ish but not too "muh autistic milsim"

[rotund fox]

Oh, i thought you were asking me why not

[finite dragon]

i think stalker could benefit from more in depth shooting mechanics but going full tarkov is not the way

[hazy helm]

I don't mind changing the gunplay as long as they retain what made the gunplay in the OGs fun

[limpid salmon]

it already has weapon jamming and similar stuff, the bullets counter could be removed if you play on harder game settings

[hazy helm]

I did like that AI suggestion with the enemy jams and reloads altho I don't think the reloads should be that loud
I don't think feints would work tho

[limpid salmon]

you could hear a reload if the enemy is right around the corner or behind a door

[hazy helm]

Yhea but usually if they're within that distance your already on top of them raining hell

At least for me,they never live that long since I flank, hide and push a lot

[rotund fox]

Games that do this usually have an alternative way to check ammo, like in RO/RS

And at that point you're getting too deep into muh mil sim

The whole hardcore realism shooter doesn't work for stalker since you usually have to go through dozens upon dozens of people all at once, equipment breaks too easily, you go through ammo like paper, you die too fast and so on.

I still remember doing this from the CoM days and how crap it was

[hazy helm]

You can do that without allocating a new key for a new animation to check a mag by having a slit in your mag that shows you how much ammo it roughly has

I mean I don't see any reason why they should take it out but at the same time there are ways to do it without creating new keybinds and animations,Metro went that way

[rotund fox]

You would have to do that for all the weapons then, and it just doesn't work for some classes like shotguns and pistols

[hazy helm]

Yhea,unless you wanna make a slit in the tube which, would be a good way to have all the internet gun experts in a twist,would be fun

[finite dragon]

I'd be interested to see if they make it a mechanic that you can find discarded gun parts both old and newer across the Zone considering how many guns there are per stalker

Or corpses, that kinda realism would be pretty cool

Like, imagine you're just walking around doing your thing and you find the remains of broken guns and armour from some unfortunate stalker who walked into an anomaly or got killed by bandits

[limpid salmon]

imagine if stalker was in the US

infinite supply of guns and ammo

imagine brewing your own vodka/rakija in stalker

[worthy lagoon]

Or just have a setting to disable the HUD or certain parts of the HUD

So anyone can customise it the way they want without the need of having such things on harder difficulties

[devout canyon]

[prime harness]

How can I help Vano survive Pripyat 1

[limpid salmon]

you dont

[prime harness]

I'd give my life for Vano

[potent bluff]

I always reload save just to save Vano

[hoary gazelle]

Ive never played Stalker Before what game should I start with and should I start off with Modded Stalker?

[prime harness]

Shadow of chernobyl first, Clear sky (I personally didn't play it) second, and Call of pripyat third/second

[hazy helm]

start with Shadow of Chernobyl,then procced with Clear Sky and then Call of Prypriat
I advise for your first playthru to go vanilla but if you face problems with SoC try installing the OGSR engine mod

[prime harness]

A second too late

[hazy helm]

[hoary gazelle]

ive seen all the anomly videos and im a big tarkov player so i didnt know if i should do that

[hazy helm]

just so you dont get facewalled,anomaly is a survival hardcore mod based of Call of Chernobyl which is a freeplay mod,the actual stalker games are very different,theyre more fast paced and arcady with more overt horror elements and light survival mechanics

[hoary gazelle]

I like more survival types of games but i wanted to know what to do because I dont want to just be confused by all mechancs

[hazy helm]

if you are having trouble with the game mechanics you can always ask here,Im sure ppl will be glad to help,as for if youre finding the game a tad too easy or difficult try to modulate the difficulty and find the right one for you

[hoary gazelle]

So do you think starting with anomly is a good?

[hazy helm]

no

want the long or short answer

[hoary gazelle]

long

[hazy helm]

Anomaly is a freeplay mod that is not representative of the original games,it does not try or need to replace them and is a very bad starter into the series
Anomaly is a freeplay survival hardcore mod that focuses on the survival aspect,many mods inside anomaly decide to focus on this aspect which runs counter to Stalkers originals design which was light on survival mechanics and chose to focus more on a faster shooting and horror elements with very light survival elements
the story and canon are changed a lot which,anomaly is a mod it does not need to follow canon,but if it is all you have to base it on then
if you want to play a mod and dont want to play the original games sure go for it but if you want to get into the stalker games then you it should stand to reason taht you would play the stalker games,not a completely different mod

[prime harness]

You can still play modded Stalker games

But I suggest non-gamechanging ones like Gunslinger

[hazy helm]

I would if it didnt bother itself with changing balancing to the worst on one side and better on the other

there arent many mods that are simply animation replacers,they always feel the need to add more than waht they need

[prime harness]

Idk I don't mind the rebalance much

It's just that I have no idea which guns are good now

[hazy helm]

lmao,the mutant rebalancing is really abd and I dislike the balancing that was redone bc of consumable animations
it would be fine if it was optional,but it isnt

[prime harness]

I didn't know mutant rebalancing was a thing

[hazy helm]

the controller and burer changes

theyre hella wack,theyre the thing tahts cool on paper but on practice are just VERY annoying and suck

[prime harness]

Didn't meet the controller yet

Explain

[hazy helm]

hohohoho,youre gonna "love it"

I prefer to be something you experience hehe

[prime harness]

I just made it to pripyat please

[hazy helm]

you made it to pripryat without meeting a controller?wtf

[prime harness]

Yeah

I did sidemissions too

[rotund fox]

I like how you bother typing this when he most likely won't even read it

[prime harness]

I thought they were only in pripyat

[rotund fox]

The dude is here for his free Tarkov, just say i dunno man and don't bother answering

[prime harness]

Stalker gatekeeping moment

[hazy helm]

well controller now can do more stuff like ||make you kill yourself in a long winded hard animation making sure you cant shoot or kill them,you are locked into them and so its almost impossible to kill them,they also can make you drop weapons and just throw your head far far back and such,it essentially destroys a tatic to kill them and makes the only possible tatic to throw grenades,its cool on paper theyre powerful but while playing theyre just annoying and wack||

[hazy helm]

cant fault a guy for trying

[rotund fox]

Also i got to the klondike of artifacts and kept rerolling it until i got the most amount of combat related artifacts, now i got above 50% for all the combat related stats

[prime harness]

That is cool on paper, but like not being able to shoot then sucks

Like I don't even carry 'nades

[hoary gazelle]

any what is stalker gamma

[prime harness]

Oh boy

[hazy helm]

||hooo I like when I cant see anything and I drop all my weapons and even tho I have an exo Im being overpowered and the animation locks me into slitting my own throat|| that kinda wack stuff,not fun

[prime harness]

Don't touch that till you beat the og games + anomaly

[hazy helm]

Anomaly modpack that focus on modularity and survival hardcore equipment based

[rotund fox]

How come some of the klondike artifacts are worse then the ones you can get from transmutations btw @hazy helm ? Was the 2500 health regen on the red star a mistype then or something?

[hazy helm]

I dislike it,but I am not the target for anomaly to beggin with I like the OG stalkers not survival hardcore

[prime harness]

Like resisting it would be fun

[hoary gazelle]

so what vanilla game should i start with

[hazy helm]

I never got a klondike or even a red star so I wouldnt know

[hazy helm]

@hoary gazelle here I explained it

[rotund fox]

Oh well the best health regen artifact i got from the klondike was 500 but the red star one was 2500, granted the red star makes you hungry all the time

[prime harness]

But how would that work

[hazy helm]

youre the flash or smth?

[prime harness]

Button mashing? QTE?

[hazy helm]

yhea I dislike the idea itself and I wish all these new additions were optional but they arent so I dont really recommend it

[rotund fox]

It's not as OP as it sounds

You still gotta sit behind cover for like a minute for it to heal you completely

[hazy helm]

I like gunslinger animations but

[prime harness]

Now I like the idea, but not being able to resist in some way sucks ass

[rotund fox]

The anti balistic one is insane though, a flat 30% boost to both bullet and rupture with no downsides

[hazy helm]

I dunno it just kills the momentum and destroys one tatic of eleminating the enemy
this also completely ignores your Psy-Protection and makes it useless

[rotund fox]

Still not as bad as OGSE controllers i guess

[hazy helm]

kinda?

[rotund fox]

Impossible to fight one in the open

[hazy helm]

theyre both impossible to fight in the open

[rotund fox]

You can squeze of a couple of shots in gunslinger, in OGSE he just spams the disarm attack xd

It was always stupid to me that telepathy resistance never did anything to help you fight psi mutants

[worthy lagoon]

They can also "disguise" as someone else

[worthy lagoon]

I like how Gunslinger nailed the Controller

[hazy helm]

I don't think I ever saw them doing that

[worthy lagoon]

The jokes says it

[hazy helm]

What

[worthy lagoon]

So it's very likely they trick people that way too

[worthy lagoon]

There are multiple Stalker campfire jokes that are about controllers disguising as someone else and even about dark stalkers too

[hazy helm]

bro we talking gameplay not lore

It is normal for some conceptions to be made BC,a controller disguising as a normal stalker only to backstab you and instakill you is not good for gameplay

Neither is locking you into a hard animation whenever they see you

[worthy lagoon]

Oh

[hazy helm]

Gunslinger like I said,cool on paper,but on practice they just suck

[worthy lagoon]

Well, but to actually trick you into their traps or scare you

[hazy helm]

It's Smth cool for a side quest but I would not like to see it in actual gameplay as an attack they can do

[worthy lagoon]

In practice is good too, either hide, stay far away, use grenades or as use psy block meds

[hazy helm]

they just killed a tatic and railroaded me into being a wallhugger that's throwing 90 nades and that ain't fun

[worthy lagoon]

Use the psy drugs

4head

[hazy helm]

This also completely ignored any and all of my Pay Protection which makes it simply useless

Why have it if you're not gonna use it genius

Pay drugs are supposed to be a supplement not a counter

[worthy lagoon]

That's a reason to use it

[hazy helm]

then actually use it and don't lock it behind simple use of drugs that are supposed to be supplements and not counters to mutants

Simple as,Gunslinger don't rec for first player by the simple fact it isn't modular and it changes balancing
A shame

[worthy lagoon]

Source: trust me

[hazy helm]

I am not

[worthy lagoon]

Controllers are rare, really rare

It's always worth carrying at least one pack of psy meds

Which you can easily find

You can always run away too

[hazy helm]

We are overthinking a solution to a problem we didn't have now

when it's simply easier to remove the feature or allow you to fight back against it

And more interesting a choice

[worthy lagoon]

You can fight back, but in different ways, more complicated ways than it is by simply taking meds

And i think it is cool, i hope they will rework the controller

In stalker 2

Because by lore it can do so much stuff that in Vanilla gameplay doesn't do

[hazy helm]

I hope they don't make this stupid stuff with hard locked animations that take me out

[worthy lagoon]

Say that to the military soldier who killed himself

In CoP

[hazy helm]

contrary to popular belief having my character do ever little goddamn thing animated and weighted down doesn't make me more "immersed"

[worthy lagoon]

Controllers are supposed to be rare and really difficult to fight

By LORE

The best way to fight a controller is by grenades

Words of hunters

[hazy helm]

LORE is not gameplay,which is why I don't like it,you can have lore about that specific interesting encounter but having a player actually fight or experience it is another story completely

[worthy lagoon]

Well, we all know that in STALKER there was no such things in gameplay

Simply because of a lack of resources

But i really hope they will rework the controller just as the lore says

[hazy helm]

I'd have hated them much more if there were Imma be honest locking me into animations and railroading me into one boring option without a substitute

[worthy lagoon]

Sounds like skill issue

[hazy helm]

As for Gunslinger Controllers,until they reworks them a bit to make them actually fun I will keep saying they suck

[hazy helm]

Nha I completed Gunslinger Master diff I'm way past that

[worthy lagoon]

Hunters suggest to not get seen by a controller, pack them with grenades, as long as they can't see you they can't attack you

[hazy helm]

I don't care kuro

[worthy lagoon]

I did too, multiple times

[hazy helm]

I am not hoonter

[worthy lagoon]

Yeah but it's kinda sad that the controller is so weak in vanilla compared to all the stories they tell about the controller

At that point even poltergeist are stronger

While in reality it is supposed to be really strong and with a good amount of abilities

Especially the one to force you to kill yourself like with the military soldier in CoP, because after all it is supposed to control you, in vanilla i just peak every corner and shoot before it attacks with its long attack time

Which is boring

Or at least for me since i carry a VSS

[hazy helm]

I don't mind buffing them but I mind slowing down the pace of combat and slicing your Tatics and opportunities of engagement to 1 railroady way in a single fell swoop simply BC you wanted them to feel like a bigger threat

[worthy lagoon]

Well, how are you going to buff them?

[hazy helm]

Like I said I don't mind that if it takes into account my Psy Protection attribute and is admittedly nerfed,as well as sight illusions like pseudo dogs

Have you have the ability to fight back that's influenced by your Psy Protect Attribute and make it simple,have you walk as normal even if you can't attack

[worthy lagoon]

Well yeah, the only thing that gunslinger could've added is taking the psy protection in consideration, but that is not possible, i think, because of spaghetti code

[hazy helm]

Like I said,I will continue to call it's execution bad until they update it

Since as it is,it's not very good at all

[worthy lagoon]

Since armour psy protection only affects the environment such as psy fields, and the controller kill ability does have nothing to do with the psy protection

It's basically not possible due to spaghetti code

That's why they probably did not added that, because they can't

[hazy helm]

It wouldn't be such a problem if they gave me the goddamn choice to put it or not

[worthy lagoon]

I am saying that the modders can't do that because the psy protection is a completely different feature in the vanilla game, if they could implement that they would've done that

[hazy helm]

How tf does that impede them from making the changes to mutants an optional mod on top of Gunslinger?

[worthy lagoon]

In Misery you your psy protection was important against a controller only because it had a stupid op psy field

[static roost]

Hey there, I'm new to the stalker series, but does call of pripyat let you help other factions and have good or bad reputation with them?

[worthy lagoon]

You didn't got what i mean, you can't modify anything you want

It's spaghetti code in there

[hazy helm]

like I said it wouldn't be such a problem is the end user had the choice to not change mutants

[worthy lagoon]

Oh

[hazy helm]

Bro,kuro,wtf are you even talking about bro what

[worthy lagoon]

But i am talking about a different thing

[raven raptor]

Yes

[worthy lagoon]

I am saying the most likely reason why in gunslinger the armour psy protection does not affect the controller kill methods

[hazy helm]

CoP is very bare bones when it comes to factions you can help either freedom or duty with sidequests and info this does not change anything in the long run or the environment in general

[worthy lagoon]

Like it would do with the psy drugs

[hazy helm]

And IM saying that,if the end user had the option to instal the weapon add-on and keep controller the way they were in the original game that it wouldn't be such a problem but BC there is no such option we are forced to take it

[worthy lagoon]

That's a different thing

[hazy helm]

only god know how much I would love Gunslinger guns without the annoying consumable animations

[hazy helm]

I was talking about THAT and then you kept explaining to me sphagetti code

[worthy lagoon]

Those are really enjoyable tbh

I really like the sounds of it too

[hazy helm]

Considering all I wanted from Gunslinger was a weapon animation refreshal it's sad that it takes it upon itsel to completely rebalance the gameplay

Hate consumable animations,simple as

[worthy lagoon]

Also

Only consumable animations are the water, meds and drugs

[hazy helm]

And food

[worthy lagoon]

???

Food is not there

[hazy helm]

All consumables have anims

[worthy lagoon]

No

Food is not there

There aren't bread eating animations

[hazy helm]

Last I remember I could eat a sausage and I was very angry

I seethe

[worthy lagoon]

If you update Gunslinger it gives you the option if you want the unofficial additional animations (food)

You probably clicked on it without reading

Skill issue

[hazy helm]

Há só it is that,if they allow you to download and support it then it is something they support

it neither runs counter to my point of meds having animations which I hate and slows the pace of combat down

[worthy lagoon]

If you start the updater you have the choice to select the updates and additional addons

By gunslinger vanilla there are no food animations

Those are from an addon

[hazy helm]

no Gunslinger adds medkit and anti rad anims

[worthy lagoon]

I know because i started playing Gunslinger again and when i run the updater i had the option to download the food animation pack

[hazy helm]

We are past the food kuro keep on

[worthy lagoon]

^@hazy helm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1037432797188595722.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[hazy helm]

@worthy lagoon mf mf mf

[worthy lagoon]

Sounds like an animation issue

[hazy helm]

Yes I hate them

And I do not want to see them in S2

I may be a fool but I'm an optimist

[worthy lagoon]

You saw the animation attachment on the go

[hazy helm]

a man can dream that it was done for the trailer now cant he

[worthy lagoon]

If i am in you i would dream for gameplay rather than that

[hazy helm]

I am dreaming that there are no consumable animations in the gameplay as well don't worry

[static roost]

Oh but what mod added the faction reputation back? Is it gamma or nah?

[hazy helm]

I dream a lot,I'm sure it will fit

[worthy lagoon]

That's the latest of the worrying things

Single player skins are one of them

[hazy helm]

Sorry?GAMMA is a anomaly modpack not a COP mod

[hazy helm]

pls don't remind me and turn my dreams in nightmares

I wish to hold onto hope if it is but fleeting

[worthy lagoon]

I swear to God, if i see a battlepass in STALKER 2, i will build a brainscorcer and scorch the entire humanity

[safe kayak]

STALKER loot boxes 😱😱🤯

[worthy lagoon]

God no

But considering there will be skins...

Don't make me think about that

Gives me nightmares

[safe kayak]

Unpacking gold monolith weapon skins, imagine haha.

[hazy helm]

Pls...

[worthy lagoon]

I am building the brainscorcer guys

Nothing personal

[hazy helm]

It's called Poland it already exists

It turns ppl into zombies(Femboys)

[worthy lagoon]

Are we talking about @north cape ?

[hazy helm]

[safe kayak]

I wasn’t aware Poland was the femboy capital. Interesting.

I may need to conduct more research into the topic.

[north cape]

You only call me that meanwhile i have literal picture proof of you being a gay furry

[hazy helm]

We already know both of you use VRChat there's no need to argue

I'll go sleep a wink,see you guys tmrw

[north cape]

😐

[worthy lagoon]

I dislike VRC for licking Facebook

They even implemented Easy Anticheat

On a social game

[finite summit]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

embed failure((

[solid dome]

Overused gifs are deemed to embed fail

[dry imp]

my brother in christ, you cannot embed in the stalker channel

no one has image perms except the jannies

[sullen dagger]

yeah but then I won't have 2 lives

[modest moth]

Man Snorks are annoying

Almost dropped CoP because of them in the Pripyat tunnels

[lost sleet]

hello!

is there a way i can get the funny role?

like loners

[celest heart]

#👥┃faction-choice

[lost sleet]

thank you!

[dry thorn]

Hey guys i have played anomaly for a month now but wanna try cool weapon look and new feel that gamma and efp 4.0 have but i am confused between both

[hazy helm]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[timid trail]

https://youtu.be/zv4kC1Qtn00

What the heck is this 🤣🤣

[regal tangle]

i remember that, the most annoying part was not letting anyone die

[prime girder]

It isn't that difficult

[modest moth]

EFP = Tactical Tarkov gameplay
GAMMA = Minecraft Survival but it's Stalker so it's a lot worse

[dry thorn]

@modest moth damn so what do you like more?

[modest moth]

Idk, my PC can't handle both

[dry imp]

its not your pc the mods are incredibly unoptimized