⭐┃nospoilers_general

[hazy helm]

the thing Im most saddened by is not the item bloat and the lackluster AI,its the insistent refusal to better the freeplay formula thru what it's peers tried,it is HELLBENT in being the bare minimum of minimums

not really

[sinful lion]

@solid dome whats your opinion on the old world addon for analmeme? havent checked it out, but it might be really good and what we are both looking for

[verbal hemlock]

I know a few guys who were introduced via Anomaly and then went back and played the trilogy and loved them (Call of Pripyat is especially a favorite, due to the game’s structural almost-RPG-like similarity to games like Fallout: New Vegas). That alone is worth the cost of the ignorant people who only play anomaly

[solid dome]

Welp then

[sinful lion]

old world does that I think

[hazy helm]

see the thing here is,the structure of CoP is really different from the rest of the series,its the exception

[verbal hemlock]

It was pretty funny, I had played New Vegas for a long time, then played Call of Pripyat and thought, “wow, this game’s quest structure reminds me a ton of New Vegas” and low and behold, Josh Sawyer took a ton of inspiration from CoP for New Vegas during development 🤣

[solid dome]

I haven't checked it, I played Anomaly only 3 times. First time I was hella confused about the item bloat and mechanics > gave up. Second time I attempted to learn those things > gave up. Third time I progressed somewhat out of Cordon but left there as I didn't feel... dunno... didn't feel it you know.

[verbal hemlock]

Yes, it’s an progressive advancement you see from SoC —-> CS —-> CoP, starting to turn more and more into a hybrid RPG-FPS

If the developers for S2 are basing the game’s quest structure off of what we saw in CoP, we’ll be in good shape

[solid dome]

Though if I have to choose Misery or Anomaly I say Anomaly cause it has less bugs and more polished (even though Anomaly is based on Misery)

[hazy helm]

I woudlnt say a betterment considering its ethos are pretty different from game to game,CS would be a betterment of SoC in AI terms and systems,CoP is just a different cut at a different Formula

[verbal hemlock]

If you guys are looking for a decent story mod, “Spatial Anomaly” is a good one for CoP. Lore friendly mod that tells its own story and fills in some of the gaps between CS and SoC

[hazy helm]

coincidentaly,I think CS is the best and CoP is the wost in the series precisely due to their structures considering CoP stripped back many of CS and SoC systems that made it unique in search of a more uniform and overall sanded approach which makes it boring over the years,CS and SoC still feels fresh

[solid dome]

Spatial Anomaly and Wind of Time are second to none.

Albeit SA I find too damn short, man

[verbal hemlock]

SoC has a very strong main story with side quests just serving as a little bit of extra content along the way. CS has a strong main story but delves more and more into having a focus on side quests and side storylines. CoP then totally flips it and mainly uses its main story (until the final chapter in Pripyat) as a vessel to deliver all of the side quests, a la New Vegas.

[verbal hemlock]

The ending was very abrupt. They must’ve had trouble with time at the end of development.

The change from SoC to CS is a bit more subtle while the change from CS to CoP is very drastic, yeah

[solid dome]

Never did the ending part lmao

I mean...I was nearly at it but...

[verbal hemlock]

Did you get to the part where ||the monolith show up?||

[solid dome]

Couldn't figure some things so I had to Youtube

I guess so, I haven't attempted another run on SA since 2020

[verbal hemlock]

yeah same, mainly in the first area where it was a giant scavenger hunt for the quests lol

[solid dome]

I gotta do it before SA2 comes up

[verbal hemlock]

had to go through a bunch of Russian language playthroughs from years ago to find the copper spool in the destroyed oven lmao

[solid dome]

How is SA2 going tho, I don't know if the guy does progress reports

[verbal hemlock]

I haven’t checked in in a while

[solid dome]

Hot damn, yeah

What happened with Total Stalker too...

I admit I have sinned not keeping up with mods

[verbal hemlock]

Spatial Anomaly also had some damn good connections to the mysteries of SoC, CS, and CoP

[solid dome]

^^

I never had it crash too

Which for such a mod is hella rare

[verbal hemlock]

Such as why the main Stalker camp in Cordon was disbanded between CS and SoC. Turns out ||Beast was contracted to eliminate their leader, I can’t remember his name, but he’s the guy who gives you the quests in CS||

And of course the mystery of General Tachenko’s squad

I’ve never seen a mod attempt to fill in some of the gaps between the games like that, and it did it in a way that was very well written and lore friendly

[solid dome]

[solid dome]

Yeap

[verbal hemlock]

Spatial Anomaly did crash a few times for me

Also I had a bug on my second playthrough where after hunting the chimera, my man who accompanies you on the hunt won’t re-enter the barn and I can’t progress 🤧

[solid dome]

I don't remember having such bugs

Though I'm a boomer so who knows, maybe I forgot

Old brains, man....

[hazy helm]

Im not too ok with CS's story,I think that SoC one is better honestly,but I think that the formula that CoP tried altho the most polished one,does not lend itself well to waht stalker was trying to do,
trying to recreate the Zone with AI and creating an atmosphere and reliant on uncertainess and dynamism,which is why the more rigid,linear and static game that CoP is I'm not really for
I really hope Stalker 2 plays to all of the 3 games strenghts instead of hyperfocusing on waht one did

[verbal hemlock]

linear is the opposite of what CoP is. linear is what SoC and CS are.

Excluding its final chapter in Pripyat, CoP is basically New Vegas on a smaller scale lol

[hazy helm]

Linearity is what CoP is
not on story,not what Im talking about,every stalker game is linear in that aspect,thats fine,what Im talking about is world interectivity,CoP is as rigid as they come,you cannot have impact on the world that isnt expressively written to,meanwhile CS and SoC had system that supported an "alive" world

[verbal hemlock]

CoP had elements of it, where your decisions in certain quests changed the faction makeup of the first two regions (and all random events from there) but yeah I see what you mean. In any case it sounds like the Alife 2.0 will take the whole thing to the next level

[hazy helm]

that is what I hope,the creator of A-Life coming back gives me hope,even tho the whole AI system up until that moment had to be scrapped bc of it and they were set back by a lot

[real sierra]

How do I check crash log?

And I'm not too far

My task rn is go reach sidrovich

[sinful lion]

do yall preffer the buildo style of stalker to retail?

[frail spire]

I don't speak autism so I can't answer your question

[half flame]

anyone here able to help with a modding issue

[solid dome]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications for your needs

[half flame]

Aah sorry didnt see that

[sand fiber]

builds. it's, y'know, the true stalker

[sinful lion]

alot more vibrant I'll give you that
btw, is there a way to fix the performance problem in mediprom in olr?

[sand fiber]

nah, haven't experienced any problems with performance in olr

except at cnpp

[sinful lion]

my pc isnt the most powerful thing in the world, but its pretty decent. idk, garbage and cordan are fine, but mediprom has notable lag

[sand fiber]

what are the graphic settings?

[sinful lion]

btw, still dont like the re-addition of flora anomallies

[sinful lion]

here let me take a screenshot

[quaint niche]

hey

listen i want to transfer save to new game reinstallation

[sand fiber]

eeehhh they're okay but a bit annoying yeah

[sinful lion]

oh wait, I forgot, xray engine hates when you try to take a screenshot for some reason

[sand fiber]

yeaah, have to save them in a certain directory with f12

[sand fiber]

What game?

[quaint niche]

hey

so i want to download a different installation but i dont want to start all over again

stalker shadow of chernobyl

[sand fiber]

My Documents > stalker-shoc

[quaint niche]

and after i copied it where do i transfer after a new instalattion is complete

[sand fiber]

The same place.

[sinful lion]

wait, I cant even share pics in this chat

[quaint niche]

ok

[sinful lion]

damnit

[sand fiber]

Also are you installing a modded version or smth?

[sand fiber]

oh, send it in offtop or in #📸┃screens_and_videos

[quaint niche]

vanilla version

[sand fiber]

'kay

[quaint niche]

they are exact twin versions

but i want different language original twin but different language

[sinful lion]

the bulk of hte lag comes from looking at the abandoned complex from any angle

[sand fiber]

uhhhh don't remember where it is

maybe there are a lot of items laying around?

[sinful lion]

maybe, im gonna go back in

and the abandoned complex is the place you run to to help that inured stalker after that scripted blowout

there are a shit ton of thorn artefacts in here, as well as as hit ton of zombies

[sand fiber]

ah yes

i remember now

yup that happens, had the same kind of problem at cnpp, engine simply couldn't handle it and i was getting like 2 frames per 15 seconds

[quaint niche]

what level he is on ?

[sand fiber]

they're playing a mod

[quaint niche]

oh zombies on cnpp

i was so confused 😄

[sinful lion]

*she

and Im playing olr in mediprom

[median hazel]

How to get to Yanov in Call of Pripyat? I think I've made all main quests in Zaton

[hazy helm]

Talk to Guide

[worthy lagoon]

^

[hazy helm]

He is literally in the middle of the skadosvk bar

Impossible to miss him

[median hazel]

oh okay xd

thanks

[finite dragon]

bro what?

how you not know to do that??

[real sierra]

Yo is it a good idea to preorder stalker 2?

[hazy helm]

Probably not,dunno,that's up to you

[vapid cargo]

Why. Does stalker anomaly exist. THIS MAKES ME MAD.

[hazy helm]

It's just mediocre

[vapid cargo]

the og games are Better by a mile

[hazy helm]

Yes

[cyan canopy]

I like stalker trilogy

[cyan canopy]

How to get rich in stalker,simple:
-Find artefact and sell it to sakharov.

[solid dome]

Sakharov is my cousin

I get discount on monster guts

[solid dome]

Do you think preordering something you have no info about is good? If so, go for it

[real sierra]

Idk lol

[solid dome]

Don't preorder then

Keep your wallet secure

[real sierra]

Got it

[cyan canopy]

I will keep it from now on

[solid dome]

You see, you keep your money now so the Zone will let you explore the dark depths @real sierra

[cyan canopy]

Why not just walk around dark valley its very good place where you can be rob.. i mean hunting mutants

[real sierra]

When the game launches I will still be able to buy the deluxe edition right?

[solid dome]

If the game launches - perhaps, yes

[cyan canopy]

Potato pc

[solid dome]

Yours?

You are chief security officer @ Combine, how come

[cyan canopy]

Breen dosent let me use his computer

[solid dome]

[cyan canopy]

Sid also very genius

[solid dome]

Oi new announcement > moar propganda...

[whole hull]

To the dear boys and girls working at GSC Game World, how are things at the offices and in your homes? I hope you are healthy and well. I wish you a good working day, and a better weekend. Greetings from Argentina.

Slava Ukraine.

[glossy blade]

Hey, nice to hear from Argentinian community! GSC doing everything possible to keep us safe. We are also working hard on all the different aspects of the game.
Glory to Ukraine.

[solid dome]

😄

[kind cove]

Just finished the trilogy

Or atleast last night I did

Top 10 for me imma be honest the lore is intriguing:p

[last pine]

🧐

[fallen adder]

[soft fable]

[dry imp]

see? it isn't dead

[remote crow]

Me

[sinful lion]

I have come to the scientific conclusion that duty fans are biologically incapable of not hating minorities

[split adder]

Their one crime was being based

[sinful lion]

the fact people unironically like duty is a tad shocking. they are blatantly depicted as reactionary and conservative schizos that are suspiciously russian. Like, to an absurd degree

they are literally the only faction that both canonically and in-game speaks almost exclusivly russian

[hearty vigil]

suspiciously Russian
what lol

[jaunty mason]

what is strelok going to say when he finds out?!

[remote crow]

[split adder]

Bro is only game

[sinful lion]

they think shooting a bunch of blind dogs will kill the zone. Hell, in the builds, the zone only became more hostile twords as they just kill random mutants

[remote crow]

sTRELOK IS THE FATHEr

[ashen axle]

atheadax#3617 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[jaunty mason]

but isn't skif scar's son?!

[remote crow]

shut up bot

[sinful lion]

they use exclusivly old warsaw pact guns, they speak russian, they have russian accents (iirc), and I think are implied to be primarily made up of russians

[remote crow]

No

[jaunty mason]

I have been lied to

I must consult the wiki to find the truth

[remote crow]

Skif is the son of me and Strelok

[hearty vigil]

Tachenko, it’s founder, is Ukrainian. So is Zvyagintsev.

The guns are all Soviet and were made before Russia even became a thing.

There is no in-game confirmation about them being Russian, it’s purely a localization thing (assuming you’re referring to Ukrainian localization). Monolith is Russian in SoC but Ukrainian in CoP.

[sinful lion]

I know they are soviet, but culturally the guns are associated with russia

[sinful lion]

I didnt know that monolith part, huh. Why would they speak russian?

[hearty vigil]

Why would Duty? Just to add diversity to in-game voices, I guess.

Also, less work translating lol.

[sinful lion]

I thought it was half life style enviromental story telling, kinda meant to imply they are either russian backed or made up of alot of former russian soldiers

[remote crow]

Ukrainians also speak Russian

[sinful lion]

I know, but its weird for them to speak russian when every other faction speaks ukranian

[hearty vigil]

Yeah. I don’t think there is much distinction in-game, or even anything to suggest Duty has ties with Russia apart from them being voiced differently.

[remote crow]

It depends where you live tho

[hearty vigil]

Lore-wise, most Duty spillers are ex-military (Ukrainian, obviously) or just former free stalkers.

[sinful lion]

truuuue 🤔

[hearty vigil]

Yeah, but they speak Russian both in Russian and Ukrainian localization, that’s the thing.

[sinful lion]

certain parts of ukraine have a russian speaking majority

[remote crow]

My friends from Dnipro speak Russian

[hearty vigil]

Oh, you meant that. Lol.

[sinful lion]

I mean, I guess you have a point. what about their accents though? I think that would seal the deal

[hearty vigil]

What accents? They just did not change the voices from original localization.

[sinful lion]

no, I mean

[hearty vigil]

All actors are Ukrainian for both localizations, so the point about accents is even stranger.

[sinful lion]

Im asking if the duty members speak in a ukranian or russian accent

because I feel like an accent would indicate for sure where their place of origin is

and if duty really does have ukranian accents, then yea in that case that settles it

[solid dome]

Come 'ere, come 'ere

[sinful lion]

tbf, this is just a little theory I came up with in my head, what duty being russian n such

[hearty vigil]

The original localization is Russian. There is no Ukrainian accent there, apart from a couple of phrases being voiced in Ukrainian.

[sinful lion]

ah

[hearty vigil]

Ukrainian localization is based on Russian, and it just has the same voice lines for Duty.

[sinful lion]

Im stupid american, idk shit lmao

[hearty vigil]

They were never changed. So no accent, but that’s not relevant here.

Russian meant bigger market, and most Ukrainians spoke Russian anyway. Besides, the tension was not big in 2007—2009, so there would be no reason for GSC to antagonise Duty by making them speak Russian.

If anything, it’s a diversity thing, I believe.

[sinful lion]

pretty sure there were slight tensions between the countries, but nothing super big

[remote crow]

Basically everything @hearty vigil said

[jaunty mason]

Alright I just leveled up to Veteran

Can I have the yellow name back?

[gilded sentinel]

welp russian is considered unofficial language of all CIS , and since most of folks in the zone , arent exactly young , a lot of them lived in the USSR ( in which Russian was basically the official language ) , i find the whole thing really accurate , wished there would be both ukranian/russian and mb some other languages as options for camp fire chatter at the same time , instead of choosing one localisation

[sinful lion]

Yea, ignore my dumb theory

It was primarily constructed from a misconception of how the original localization was handled

Btw what do you mean by CIS?

[gilded sentinel]

post soviet states

Russia , Ukraine , Belorussia , Baltics , south countries as kazakshtan and etc

[devout zealot]

CIS is the bad guys in star wars prequel movies

[rustic elbow]

-furry
-freedomer
everything you need to know

[sinful lion]

dude in armor pfp
dooty
All you need to know

[fluid abyss]

FACTS

wait
oh no

dude in furry pfp
freedom

[opaque cosmos]

facts

[worthy siren]

cant forget about that ungrateful attitude

[sinful lion]

Wdym?

[worthy siren]

duty

thats what i mean bro.

[jaunty mason]

question: after a certain period of time, will the Red Forest and Pripyat be open to Loners? I want to know if at some point in my sandbox save I'll be able to set up base in pripyat, or if it'll just be monolith territory indefinitely. (SoC if this changes anything)

[random vortex]

I hope there are cute mommy stalkers in Stalker 2. 😳

[worthy siren]

just beat clear sky, that ending was dope

good game

[cyan canopy]

Now play SoC

[worthy siren]

ive beaten that one first, but now everything is making sense

im getting ready for call of pripyat now but overall i enjoy SoC the best

[bronze mountain]

hey guys, I'm only just getting into stalker and wanted to ask yall which game should I start with first?

[fluid abyss]

Shadow of Chernobyl

followed by Clear Sky

then by Call of Pripyat

[bronze mountain]

alright, thank ya!

[glossy hull]

Which place is the language/translation folder on the A.R.E.A mod

[hexed hill]

hey im getting into stalker for the first time. is there any QOL mods recommended to get for shadow of chernobyl like there are with bethesda games?

i already got ZRP

also does higher difficulties make enemies bullet spongy or just make their AI better?

[hearty vigil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States basically ex-USSR.

[hearty vigil]

It’s not just monolith territory but there will be monolith. Yes, loners will come to both locations if you stay.

[hearty vigil]

Is it though? I feel Clear Sky introduced more questions than it managed to answer.

[hearty vigil]

None really, even reclamation projects are not must-have and most people play without them.

You’re fine out of the box. Some issues here and there, sure, but reclamation projects aren’t just bugfixes, and they all got non-optional changes that steer from dev view. I’d not recommend them.

[solid dome]

Isn't it strange it was once called Shadow of Chernobyl and suddenly Chornobyl

Split personality eh

[fluid abyss]

no its shadow of chernobyl

its heart of chornobyl tho

not sure how I feel about the name change, just feels weird seeing it spelled like that

cuz its less cherning and more chorning

[dark river]

I am sure this is some transliteration of the Ukrainian(-spoken/written?) name. I veeeery doubt that this is just some typo or whatever.

[solid dome]

Yeah. Usual improperganda or properganda, whatever you will

[ashen axle]

SIEBENKELCHE#6746 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hearty vigil]

Just how HoC was once called that too.

[solid dome]

I mean its like changing Google for Noodle, albeit its not the same. Anyway.

[hearty vigil]

Russian was the national language of USSR so when the name got latinised it used Russian spelling with “e”.

[dark river]

oh sorry, I'll use shorthands next time to do not disorientate the behavior of kids while playing 18+ FPS and fapping to any pr0n-sites...oh wait. JK, your server, your rules.

[hearty vigil]

It’s a political statement. Previously devs did not care, even though asking to change the name to Chornobyl goes back to summer 2021. Now they renamed the game, removed Russian VA and got the game out of Russian stores. You see my point.

[solid dome]

Eh? You jumped topics in 0.1 msec.

[dark river]

well in Germany where I live we've got many refugees from eastern Ukraine - all speaking Russian (Ukrainian seems still to be the dominated language in western parts of the country)

[dark river]

that was for the bot, never mind ;)

[solid dome]

I'm aware, however it's by no means a game since we have no proof it exists. 😄

[hearty vigil]

Yeah, Russian is still very popular and almost all Ukrainians speak it. Most people that don’t also refuse out of political statement.

[dark river]

Absolutely agree with this.

[hearty vigil]

Anyway, Chornobyl is more correct I guess. We usually adapt names from native languages of countries where the city is located. Just not really convenient that we already have a “e” game in the series.

[dark river]

hey one moment...I have a short general question you could answer in a se

[hearty vigil]

I guess?

[hexed hill]

is there a good place to get the backstory on stalker? like what happened before shadow of Chernobyl? why people have s.t.a.l.k.e.r tattoed on them and things like that?

[hearty vigil]

Have you played the prequel, Clear Sky?

[hexed hill]

No I thought I play that after shadow of Chernobyl

[hearty vigil]

Yes, you should play that after. But it answers many questions of SoC.

[hexed hill]

Didn’t know it was a prequel. Gonna check it outs hopefully it explains things

Ok so play SOC first still?

[sand fiber]

Yes.

[sand fiber]

It will be explained in SoC.

[hexed hill]

Cool thanks guys

[exotic folio]

Yo, how you guys doing

[dark river]

sorry for the delay - here it is I wanted you all to ask...

I am currently modding (configs, scripts, 2D-graphics and I'm merging and if needed, "porting" few add-ons for CotZ). I am really addicted to CoC and CotZ even more although it's drawbacks in terms of stability, but I'm bit unexperienced when it comes to repacks/"mod-of-mods" of them. I very like SGM 2.2 which i based on something completely different, I tried Misery and Anomaly (I respect the tech.-side of both but it's no), 1-2 repacks of CoC/CotZ... can you recommend some repacks (of CoC or CotZ, I prefer the latter) worth playing or at least checking out their features?

btw whether it's language is English or Russian does not matter, I speak both, that's why I even came to SGM4CoC (quite interesting without being overloaded with items, "features", etc.), although it requires some kind of translate-CoC-to-Russian-Addon (if someone want's to try it out)

[hearty vigil]

I don’t play mods, so no idea.

[dry imp]

isnt there a modding discord?

cause this is the official discord i dont think this would be the place to ask

[dark river]

well I tried do some reseaching for myself, with more or less some results....asked on reddit/r/stalker...they are all into Anomaly and some "GAMMA" (an Anomaly-Mod?)...that's why I am asking here. If you can recommend me some community which might give me some info I am loooking for, I'll be thankful for each recommendations...

[mortal parcel]

If you are looking into modding specifics in English about CoC related stuff : Anomaly or Gamma discords modding channels are the safest bet.

About CoC repacks : CoC is old and Anomaly took it over in terms of modding platform simply because there’s actual development on going behind Anomaly, with modding and modders in mind.

And gamma is a giant modpack + own set of mods for Anomaly to actually have a nice survival-like progression. It’s definitely not for OG stalker gameplay lovers.

[digital lynx]

What's up guys

[cyan canopy]

I only play CoC with vanilla weapons

[digital lynx]

We talking about mods?

[cyan canopy]

Idk

I just came here

[digital lynx]

Ale

I play anomaly with 3 mods. One being the HD Models

[cyan canopy]

Vanilla model is best

[gilded sentinel]

Ew

[cyan canopy]

Why

[gilded sentinel]

You mean vanila weapons from the first 3 games ?

[cyan canopy]

Yes

[gilded sentinel]

Do you know what gunslinger is ?

[cyan canopy]

With vanilla CS/COP arms

[gilded sentinel]

Or boomsticks ?

[hazy helm]

boomsticks aint even good lmao

[gilded sentinel]

Why not ?

[hazy helm]

hmm yes I will further destroy the item pool with 19 different items for more guns and even more useless and broken mechanics that are a time waste all so I can get high poly count tarkov rip models that bloat the file size and look extremely out of place

[gilded sentinel]

Fair enough

[cyan canopy]

I use boomsticks because idk

[gilded sentinel]

Anyway try gunslinger , it’s great since it’s probably the most well made weapon pack out there , and it mostly has guns only from original trilogy

[cyan canopy]

Can it work Clear Sky

[hazy helm]

it's a real shame you cant dissasociate Gunslinger from the consumable animations

[cyan canopy]

I think not

[gilded sentinel]

Such a shame that I don’t care

[hazy helm]

I never said it was a problem that everyone had now did I?

[gilded sentinel]

Nah , but it works on cop and soc

Recently they even made the ogsr/gunslinger for soc , you can try this version if you want

[solid dome]

Give STALKER to Godd Howard to fix

He'll do mobile version and Nintendo version right

[dry imp]

new user joins
"hey guys i play anomaly!"

[worthy lagoon]

There is not

[gilded sentinel]

there is

[worthy lagoon]

It's not released

Is it?

[gilded sentinel]

you mean the vanila soc or just soc ?

because theres gunslinger for soc mod ogsr , which is basically the same game but with some cool new quest lines and locations

[worthy lagoon]

??

Oh

Vanilla

[gilded sentinel]

ill sent screenshots

#📸┃screens_and_videos

[cyan canopy]

Why not play original first and then play anomaly

[frosty ember]

The quests are far from cool.

[gilded sentinel]

Nyet

[hazy helm]

OGSR is not by a long mile SoC vanilla o vanilla + ahahahhaha
OGSR GA is even farther from it

Insane talk

[gilded sentinel]

Whatever you say

[hazy helm]

Cheers

[worthy lagoon]

I am sure what he meant was that he generally said modded SoC or just vanilla

He didn't really said that OSGR is the same as Vanilla SoC

[dry thorn]

Hey guys is seryoga military technician important for a loner?

[dry imp]

good question, why dont they?

[grim mica]

ged oud of here sdalger xdddddd

[dry thorn]

Can a loner become friends with military?

[sly matrix]

what game?

[dry thorn]

Anomaly

I just want to know should i kill every military guy i see or not?

[stark lynx]

Stalker 2 comes out in december next year right?

[sly matrix]

perhaps

[worthy lagoon]

In 2023, the month is unknown

[stark lynx]

Hmm

[solid dome]

No

[solid dome]

Could be 2086

[solid dome]

Yes

[stark lynx]

I just checked steam and it says december 2023

[solid dome]

Google says Yahoo sucks but its the other way around

[dry thorn]

@solid dome thanks ye i was scared cause i killed seryoga in their base

[stark lynx]

I mean its on steam tho

Lemme check the website too

[dry thorn]

I think i can use his workshop to make their guns or something to?

[hazy void]

Official website always has correct info. If you're unsure about something, check website

[solid dome]

Wipe every single one of them

Military represents the government > our government is the most corrupt thing. Kill em all.

In addition

Collect their eyeballs and feed the monsters with

Boil their guts and feed the birds with

[worthy lagoon]

ignore it, it's just a placeholder

[solid dome]

Have you heard of placeholders? Steam does one thing wrong. Its by using placeholders instead of the usual "TBA" tag

[dry thorn]

ye i also want to kill em all

[solid dome]

My boy!

Mop them out of the Zone, son

[gilded sentinel]

Waiting for cyberstalker 2077

[solid dome]

It can't be 2077 since its against the plot, it's 2086 instead

[radiant remnant]

Hello everyone. I didn't know that STALKER had an official Discord 😄

[hazy helm]

Cossacks official sever when

[radiant remnant]

[ashen axle]

Michael Myers#5205 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[solid dome]

When they fix the C3 mess perhaps

[hazy helm]

I don't think they ever will krezzin

I'm sorry man

[solid dome]

Exactly my point

G||rand||S||cam||C||orporation||

[hazy helm]

Not much of a modding scene for Cossacks either which is sad

[solid dome]

Not much? Modding doesn't exist for it.

And they should be ashamed, current devs and old devs.

[jaunty mason]

The funny thing is, almost every game company I've heard have has been called a scam

the only one I can think of that hasn't at one point been called a scam by its player base is Crossy Road, unless you're talking about the arcade version

[hazy helm]

Owlcat

[hazy helm]

When I clear my backburner projects I'll maybe learn how to reverse engineer and mod Cossacks 3 lmao

[solid dome]

Better do C1 instead, way more potential (due to lack of performance issues)

[hazy helm]

don't want me to "fix" Cossacks 3?

[solid dome]

Or you want to add missing stuff?

You'd need to do a lot, modelling the Victoria and other missing units

[hazy helm]

@glossy blade when are you going release the Cossacks 3 SDK

[hazy helm]

just use some placeholders I'm sure ppl will understand

[solid dome]

It's insane how the most iconic unit wasn't added in the game and they gave middle finger to everyone by not doing it

https://steamcommunity.com/app/333420/discussions/0/1696046342870991220/

[junior night]

Hello Im new here and I have a question, there are these modifications for suits ( like a sprint upgrade for the exo) is there another way of getting them than just stalker drops or from certain traiders?
Also is it random what one I get, bc I realy only want one and I couldnt find it in like 100h of play time

[dry imp]

the year is also possibly unknown

[junior night]

didnt is say december?

[dry imp]

it was never announced

[hazy helm]

In CoP you can buy one from Nimble and in SoC you can find one in the CNPP along with other spawns Im not remembering
I'm assumin you're talking about CoP since you cant sprint

[junior night]

sry forgot Im talking anomaly, I got the loner one and cannot find that upgrade for sprinting

[dry imp]

of course...

[hazy helm]

go ask in the anomaly server please

[worthy lagoon]

Year of release is 2023.

[dry imp]

another anomaly

[dry imp]

i honestly doubt it

[worthy lagoon]

STALKER 2 will be released in 2023, the December date is just a placehold

[junior night]

wait there is a stalker anomaly server? I thought this is for all?

[dry imp]

[hazy helm]

Anomaly is a mod,a standalone mod for god's sake it's not a stalker game

[junior night]

:(

[hazy helm]

Every day I put my clown make up on and it's costing more by the day

[junior night]

alright Im sorry

[dry imp]

[junior night]

I feel real stupid now :/

anyways, do you know if the stalker 2 will have multiplayer?

[worthy lagoon]

STALKER 2 will have Multiplayer but co-op won't be a feature, it will most likely be CTF, DM, TDM and such

[dry imp]

yeah

[junior night]

bruhh

[dry imp]

original stalker had multiplayer

so its probably a remake of that mode

which i think would be kinda cool

if they do it right

[hazy helm]

Not like the OGs multiplayer is much

[dry imp]

i mean its kinda fun despite the fact that ever server is in russia and is 200+ ping

[junior night]

I think ctd tdm and such wuld be waste of potential :/

[hazy helm]

ez host a American gamenight

[dry imp]

with who

[hazy helm]

I think it would be a waste of resources to focus on Multiplayer for stalker a single player first game

[dry imp]

and i dont know how to make a dedicated server

i could figure it out

[hazy helm]

Not that hard,just make a LAN server using Radmin VPN

[dry imp]

ough

[junior night]

I understand, I just think it would be great to play with some friends

[dry imp]

vpns

[hazy helm]

Radmin VPN and Hamachi is a godsend ma man,makes a Private over the Internet LAN network do you can easily host game nights with the friends for old games

Thievery UT gamenight was Hella fun let me tell ya

[dry imp]

my internet is also just bad

so i probably couldn't host

and i dont have friends to play with

speaking of which my current friend group kicked me out and blocked me on everything so i literally dont have a friend group anymore

[hazy helm]

the misery

Ask GSC to play with you
Remember when they played with the vets CS multi

[dry imp]

no i dont remember that

[hazy helm]

you not a vet

[dry imp]

oh hey since my friends kicked me out of their server i have a boost available

there we go

[jaunty mason]

I have no idea how I'm a vet tbh

too much shuntposting

[solid dome]

At this point better say nothing is known

It won't be a lie

[hearty vigil]

Sacrificing artstyle for a couple of additional polys 🤮

Nothing beats good old vanilla weapons.

[tiny olive]

Shower Thought:

If Loners are Free Stalkers...

Mercs are Premium Stalkers

[solid dome]

Mercs are what politicians are, whores to the mafia itself

[tight cloud]

Yes

[oblique crypt]

Even better (imo), vanilla weapons but with the textures de-mirrored. 👀💦

[hazy helm]

I bet youre a fan of the AR-90 modification

[oblique crypt]

The hell's that?

[dry thorn]

Which stalker can you play rn that has co op via hamachi

[hazy helm]

none

[dry thorn]

Sad

[hazy helm]

all you can do in the games is have a simple team deathmatch in multiplayer,there are no COOP mods not in the original trilogy nor in Stalker 2

[dry thorn]

Does anomaly have multiplayer?

[hazy helm]

no

it's a freeplay mod not Stalcraft

[dry thorn]

You ever played stalker online/stay out?

It was nice until they ruined it

[hazy helm]

those are external things,the orignals games dont have coop and arent MMO
and Im not interested in MMO's either

[dry thorn]

Ah understood well hopefully stalker 2 surprise us with a great multiplayer but at this point i just want it to safely release

[hazy helm]

I rly hope they dont put too much resources into multiplayer,its not that kind of game,no Stalker game was

redirect those funds and resources to waht matters,the singleplayer

[dry imp]

literally none. not even mods have it

(the engine is so bad its kinda hard)

[hazy helm]

modding coop and multiplayer into a game is no joke,its a great undertaking,you first need to reverse engenier the game into basically the source code so you can effectively mod the engine itself and then you need to spend a great ammount of time just trying drudging thru someone else's code on a barely even working engine and try to add servers and platforms and then optimize it etc etc
its not smth you can absent mindedly do like switching a texture or smth like that

[dry imp]

skyrim together took like four or five years

so that makes sense

but xray is worse than most engines

so its harder

[hazy helm]

you forget Creation engine has been iterated upon and reverse engeniered for many years along with it's not that bad of a engine to deal with tbh
now Xray thats another story
even with all the leaked builds its still painfully slow and hair splitting thing to do

[dry imp]

also it arguably could be easier because some online abilities are there because of the multiplayer

idk i just know that thats the reason why they switched to UE5 instead of remaking XRay

it shows that GSC acknowledges that the engine wasn't very good

[dry thorn]

Great or not it still worked yes co op would have been nice but its still great

[hazy helm]

it's been confirmed GSC wont make COOP for S2,it would ruin the atmosphere they are wanting to create

[dry thorn]

Ye agreed

[hazy helm]

I mean its not a opinion its a fact lmao

[dry imp]

modding might bring it in though

its UE5 so it's incredibly easy to mod

and im pretty sure they might have official mod tools, but i dont remember if thats what they said

dont take my word for it

[sand fiber]

yes they'll develop a modding tool for community

[hazy helm]

no not really,UE5 will make it EVEN MORE difficult bc you cant reverse engenier it into the source code and mod the engine,you cant add coop mods with superficial modifications the entire framework needs to be reworked
ALSO,with the adding of multiplayer and GSC insitance in being Triple A it wouldnt suprise if they came on harder in banning bc of this

[dry imp]

oh okay so my memory isnt failing me

[dry imp]

no you dont

ue5 is literally moddable by default in most cases

[hazy helm]

UE4 is native code, not .NET, so it has almost all debugging ripped out, and it's just raw x86 binaries
you cant effectivelly get the source code from that so as to make big modifications from that

and I dont expect them to start using .NET in UE5

I wouldnt mind being wrong but all the evidence I see points to it's not going to happen

if it was THAT easy to do so,every game would have COOP mods

[dry imp]

not every game is moddable

and im not saying coop is easy to mod

coop is hell to mod

[frail spire]

Co-op is a hassle to do

Xray to this day is a mistery and who knows what the new engine will be like

[dry thorn]

Ye cause the story line might have also been made for only single player

[dry imp]

yes it has

of course it has

they literally are not going to implement coop

[hazy helm]

the story in a single player game was made for a single player
you dont say

[dry thorn]

Ye rn i say we just wish for its safe launch then they can listen to the requests

[hazy helm]

[dry imp]

to who's requests

[hazy helm]

to be fair,almost all of the western community wants COOP,all you need to do is go to the cesspool that is #📜┃s2_suggestions and search coop
but they already told us they were against doing it so

[dry imp]

i mean coop would be cool with like one other person, but that's just not in their vision

[dry thorn]

I mean if co op is ruining there other story or functions i say ignore it then just focus on the main product

Which they are doing*

[hazy helm]

it's in character for players to not care a lick for the developers vision wouldnt you agree?lmao

[dry imp]

man you're really good at just restating the obvious

[dry imp]

true...

[dry imp]

also its almost in character for some developers to not care a lick for the players and stick to their vision

idk if GSC is like that yet

[hazy helm]

not as prevalant,players enjoyment will take precedent for selling games
remember when news outlets called Patho2 too hard bc it wasnt just another walking sim, and that they didnt have time to play it,so it made the publisher force IcePick to add difficulty options as a kneejerk reaction to try and bring new players back

[frail spire]

I do agree co-op would ruin the game

[dry imp]

i have never heard of that game

[frail spire]

Pathologic 2

[hazy helm]

Im not going on a rant about THAT

we'd be here for too long

[dry thorn]

When they say they will allow modding community tools does that mean only texturing and ui change or will it be like how anomaly and gamma came

[frail spire]

The tldr is that people suck at videogames, and for some reason people who suck at videogames are critics

[jagged gale]

Does anyone have Lost Alpha 1.4007 installed?

[frail spire]

Like the retard who gave mass effect a 2/10 because at no point he realised he was playing an rpg and had to level up stuff

Whos also the one who couldn't get past cuphead tutorial

[hazy helm]

really wish anomaly would steal RTTN's feature of only allowing you to play if you have a registered key of CoP on your PC
that would be REAL cool

[jagged gale]

please anyone

[frail spire]

Why

[hazy helm]

ppl who play Clear Sky and refuse to upgrade their gear

[dry thorn]

Then some people won't be able to play it who don't own it?

[dry imp]

good.

[hazy helm]

basically,if you dont own CoP you cant play RTTN
altho you need to at least have installed and opened CoP once to register the key

[frail spire]

Its like people who brag about getting a job at videogame company and say how they hate videogames

[dry imp]

i hate videogames

[frail spire]

"I get my dream job at a videogame company! Do videogames? No, I hate videogames"

[hazy helm]

Im so tired man

[dry imp]

videogames cause violence

[dry imp]

commit violence

[frail spire]

"hey guys I'm the lead writer of videogame 4, I have not played a single hour of the previous games but I promise the story will be good and the game won't suck"

Every modern videogame dev lead

[dry thorn]

Cod Dev's

[dry imp]

Videogame 4: Reloaded - Master Edition Season Pass

[dry thorn]

Do you think battle royale genre has affected single player genre on many games?

[frail spire]

Probably just mainstream shooters

Everyone else just kept doing their thing

[dry thorn]

Ye like even halo is being forced to do battle royale now

[frail spire]

Halo was already an arena shooter though

Battle royale was just a slightly different version from old game modes

[dry imp]

they are?

no they're not

[dry thorn]

I mean its execs have leaked its battle royale hints

[dry imp]

i don't believe you

[dry thorn]

I mean you can search it

Even ign and others know and leak updates

[dry imp]

ign is not a reliable source

ign just regurgitates rumors

[dry thorn]

Ye i know but still it seems real

[dry imp]

its real...

[dry thorn]

Told you

[dry imp]

its so over for halo infinite

[dry thorn]

This genre is taking over every game which starts failing

[dry imp]

halo infinite is evem more of a disaster

[dry thorn]

But halo infinite was a disaster at start already

[solid dome]

Anomaly 2 will never happen

[dry imp]

the single player was good

[dry thorn]

Rn the only games i am excited for is arma 4 and stalker 2

[solid dome]

Mark my words here, if you want, put it in your notes so you can come back and we talk about it

[dry thorn]

Oh ye definitely for sure that would be bad for the game

[dry imp]

arma 4

[dry thorn]

Not reforger

[solid dome]

It won't be bad for the game but it'll bad for its community

[dry imp]

i know

[dry thorn]

I like open sim games

[solid dome]

Imho, GSC is fishing for more preorders with the modding statements so far

[dry imp]

GSC is fishing for preorders anyway

issue is that preorders aren't available in several countries

[solid dome]

Issue isn't availability

It's the shady business of theirs

[dry imp]

its not looking good for gsc

Stalker 2 better be based

[sonic rampart]

It better be

[solid dome]

I realised... hopefully I'm not going to be banned for what I said few minutes ago

I can't help it... what is in my thoughts is on my fingertips

[vestal nexus]

Ello

[young grotto]

yeah why does anomaly not make you have a legal copy of CoP installed

i know coc and a few other mods i've played don't work if you don't have a valid key

[frail spire]

man it was meant as a joke

[young grotto]

yeah ik, but it would filter out all the people who don't bother playing the main games

[frail spire]

and anyone who has already played the main games but don't feel like buying for like a fourth time

[young grotto]

oh, true ig yeah

[vestal nexus]

Apparently SOC is getting an unofficial remake in unreal 4

From some modders“

[young grotto]

i wonder how that'll turn out
it certainly won't have the same feeling xray has
but i guess it could be interesting to see

[vestal nexus]

https://www.stalker-ue4.com/ here the link

[young grotto]

hopefully it's done well
vr support sounds interesting though i don't like the idea of being limited to mouse + kb

[vestal nexus]

Yeah

[hazy helm]

Project is on hold,frozen,there is no telling if it's gonna come back and I'm losing hope

[soft ice]

Someone should make a mod for anomaly that enables vehicles so they can spawn with npcs

[vestal nexus]

[soft ice]

Imagine running into a monolith squad in Pripyat with a btr… amazing game play

Area kind of has this already

[hazy helm]

Vehicles just dont mesh well with stalker,neither with Xray,even if Anomaly uses OpenXray

[soft ice]

It already has vehicles u know?

[hazy helm]

yes,and they suck

[soft ice]

They’re fine

[hazy helm]

very glad GSC has confirmed you won't have access to vehicles or drivable entities in Stalker 2

[dry imp]

what

no it doesn't

vehicles wouldn't make sense at all in stalker

[solid dome]

Its dead already

[hazy helm]

[solid dome]

Dead... Canned...

[vestal nexus]

[solid dome]

Beans...

[finite dragon]

FART

[finite dragon]

plus orginial SoC is still good

[fluid abyss]

mod players are like crackheads fr fr

[finite dragon]

me who plays LFO and OP 2.2 and stalker complete 2009

and cock

nono i mean coc

[languid rune]

anyone know a fix for anomaly crashing...Everytime i turn my pc off and then on im un able to play and it crashes...

[soft ice]

Yes it does

[soft ice]

Then why did they make them and put them into the game

There’s a few different times in the original games when you can see npcs with vehicles like at the chnpp in SoC

And in the Anomaly mod you can literally spawn them in and drive them

But more importantly it’s already coded into the game for npcs to drive vehicles and even attack you with the armored car which is what I was talking about

https://youtu.be/zOLSGVe_m1M

[solid dome]

C&C Generals had leftover code for naval units but there were no naval units in the final game. How come?

[worthy lagoon]

You can drive vehicles in vanilla though

[dry imp]

what

where

[worthy lagoon]

SoC

[dry imp]

when

[worthy lagoon]

Since the game was released

[dry imp]

i know im talking about in game

where in the game i have never seen it in game

[worthy lagoon]

You clearly haven't played SoC enough

[dry imp]

[worthy lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/876016432251559966.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[jaunty mason]

you mean the apcs?

[dry imp]

ive played throught the game like 3 times

[worthy lagoon]

Yes, the BTR

[jaunty mason]

I guess that's if you didn't launch 3 freaking RPGs at it like I did

wish I had known you could drive it

[dry imp]

you cant drive them you literally have to destroy them

[worthy lagoon]

Don't say things you are not sure about

[dry imp]

you literally cant

[worthy lagoon]

Alright, bet

[dry imp]

show me

[worthy lagoon]

Bet first

What will you give me if i an right?

I demand a

[dry imp]

slright

one can

[worthy lagoon]

Four

And 1 "bread"

[dry imp]

fine

[worthy lagoon]

https://youtu.be/c1bZgIch2O8

@dry imp

[dry imp]

thats doesn't count thats a bug

its not a feature

[worthy lagoon]

No one knows if it is intentional or not

[dry imp]

it literally says "this is an unintended bug"

[worthy lagoon]

Description says it is not

But reality is we don't know

Could be an easter egg too

[dry imp]

no

no thats not how that works

[worthy lagoon]

You lost a bet, there are drivable vehicles in vanilla

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/876016432251559966.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[dry imp]

it says there were removing vehicles completely

[worthy lagoon]

Knowing GSC they might do that

[dry imp]

its a bug

also you have to use console commands to use it

[worthy lagoon]

You have to use console commands for a lot of features

Such as 2nd person view and 3rd person view

And FOV

Yet those are features that are simply not displayed in the menu

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842773784129044512.png?quality=lossless&size=48

[dry imp]

bootleg nitro be like

[worthy lagoon]

[dry imp]

what i cant even sent the payment

[worthy lagoon]

Skill issue

[dry imp]

[worthy lagoon]

I said "bread" not bread

Smh smh

[dry imp]

wtf does that mean

[worthy lagoon]

It's not bread

It's "bread"

[dry imp]

you're not bread

[worthy lagoon]

Pretty sure "bread" will be in STALKER 2 too

[worthy lagoon]

I am "bread"

[dry imp]

he's "bread"

[worthy lagoon]

You don't know what "bread" is though

[dry imp]

i dont know whats "bread" is

[worthy lagoon]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/"bread"

[dry imp]

interesting

what the borov doin

[frosty ember]

Borov's Bakery in stalker 2 confirmed.

[hearty vigil]

Nope, mirrored weapons are essential for stalker experience.

[ashen axle]

street cred#4937 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hearty vigil]

Technically, all original games work through LAN, and can be played via Hamachi. It’s def not coop tho.

[hearty vigil]

Why would you waste time reverse engineering the compiler binaries when actual source code has been leaked years ago?

[hazy helm]

I did say that after

[hazy helm]

Not every game has been leaked

[oblique crypt]

I too love original as well. But the option is nice.

Probably the coolest thing I've seen done to the vanilla weapons is Bashy's work on Back to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mod where they've basically added brand animations, like weapon jamming and partial reload animations. 🙂

[hearty vigil]

Also there is 1 person to have any experience with X-Ray in the whole team, and even he joined mid-development, so it’s more of just GSC being a different company, I believe.

[hearty vigil]

Wdym? There are source codes of SoC, CS and CoP all publicly available.

[hazy helm]

I was speaking generally
Like I said if it was that easy to do every game would have a coop mod
Such is not the case however

[hearty vigil]

Yeah but like Creation Engine MP mod took 4 years with no engine source code, and here we have engine sources fully available and still no one does it.

If RoH or XRMPE stayed on their original course (the former wanted to do a simple coop experience, the latter wanted to just have an MP vanilla for other mods to develop) instead of becoming crappy MMOs, well, maybe we’d have it by now.

[hazy helm]

The creation engine is an engine that has been used for decades and has been thoroughly documented and reverse engeniered and even then it took them 5 years to get it working in a very limited state
Now imagine in X-ray which barely works and has no documentation

I mean we have projects but the haven't gone well,In still waiting for RAD
And I will keep saying,until one of them Releases we have none

[hearty vigil]

RAD dev also wanted to do a vanilla MP experience but quickly changed his plans to grand MMO.

this is why we can’t have nice things

[hazy helm]

when did that happen?haaaaa we are so done

Still like I said it would not suprise me if we never see coop mods for stalker 2
I wouldn't mind being wrong but from what I know I can say,the chances are very low

[solid dome]

Chances we'll fly taxis in few years are as much as we see major mods for Stalker 2 @hazy helm

[blazing sage]

will we see any form of dev work or ingame pics of the current status of the game other than small almost half teasers?

Other than trailers of course

[solid dome]

I suppose, no

Well, you can see it

Only if you become a dev

[blazing sage]

yeah i meant like

"heres where we're at"

or even other stuff other than screenshots or renders

[solid dome]

Here's what I asked Molit recently

#⭐┃nospoilers_general message

[worthy lagoon]

Ray of Hope?

Never heard of it

Ohhh

You mean Ray of Dead?

[solid dome]

The one fella who wanted you to join the VC in his Discord server and interrogate yourself before you can use the server?

[worthy lagoon]

MMO in STALKER is just a bad idea

That won't work

[hazy helm]

Wtf are you talking about

[solid dome]

About the one coop mod turned MMO, how was it called... The author of which had a Discord server with the most suspicious verification system... In order to use the server you had to verify yourself by joining the voice channel and talk to him

[hazy helm]

Yhea that was RAD Multiplayer
He ha workin videos and all,I haven't seen in post in a long while tho

[solid dome]

Shame XRMP kinda...

I mean development is basically crawling

[real sierra]

I have finally finished CoP

I love it

[solid dome]

Go play CoC||K|| now

[hazy helm]

lotta mods out there

[silk bough]

Does anybody know if the game will be optimized for nvidia oder Radeon?

[glossy blade]

Hey, you can check minimal and recommended graphic cards at our website

[ashen axle]

NuXC#0372 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glossy blade]

[silk bough]

I've already did that, my problem ist, that espacially nvidia optimized Games dont run well on my Radeon graphics card, furthermore the RT Performance is really bad in some cases.
Will this be an issue?

yeah, complaining about my RT Performance with my Radeon Graphics Card. sometimes there are slur words...

[glossy blade]

We are aiming for the adequate to the recommendations performance on listed graphic cards. If sth listed as recommended, it means that at this time we feel like this cards should be good for gaming and performance. But as always, performance is highly depended on the complex characteristics of your device.

so you should compare all relevant benchmarks, not only graphic card

[solid dome]

Nope, we customers don't

No offense or anything

We simply don't know anything... that's how it is

[silk bough]

got an i7 12700, 32GB of DDR4 RAM, Radeon 6900XT Nitro+, NVMe SSD. So this should work. My Issue ist mostly Raytracing, had some issues with it, mostly in CP2077, but also in other games, that it used too much performance

[silk bough]

I know, but Mol1t is from GSC, so I think he knows far more than us (but I don't know what he (or she) is allowed to tell us)

[solid dome]

Raytracing should be optional

Whoever does it mandatory is corpo ass licker

[glossy blade]

Most of technical details are NDA at the moment, but we will share more information closer to the release date

[worthy lagoon]

New Alienware PC giveway STALKER edition when

[glossy blade]

[silk bough]

yeah... So tbh any new info will be delivered when the war is over? Or definitely in 2023?

[worthy lagoon]

oh man, you are about to get some NDA rocks

[glossy blade]

like this one

[worthy lagoon]

nooooooooo

poor dude

[glossy blade]

or lucky

[worthy lagoon]

My man just wanted some info

[silk bough]

meh.... tbh, I have expected this outcome.

[worthy lagoon]

Don't worry, we will eventually get more information later on

[silk bough]

I hope so, it's been a long time since the last stalker dropped

[worthy lagoon]

Tbh i think a RTX 3070 or 3070Ti would do the job, Unreal Engine is generally well optimized

[silk bough]

yeah, but the memory was really small so I've decided to get an Radeon 6900XT, really good graphics card, but not really perfect for RT

[solid dome]

What up with RT these days

[worthy lagoon]

recommended GPU hardware is a 2070 Super 8GB either way, so a 3070Ti would do the job

[solid dome]

People solely buying computers for RT? Few extra details? What a broken world

[worthy lagoon]

I don't know much about RT, unfortunately i am a NVIDIA player about GPU

I am ashamed of that

[solid dome]

Like if the title doesn't have RT people would attempt suicide, come on, get your stuff together

[worthy lagoon]

Actually, i think @dire dagger could help you out if it's about CPUs and GPUs, he knows more than me, probably about AMD too

[solid dome]

There are much more important things than that in life

[worthy lagoon]

Tbh, i don't like RT

If it affects performance why would i use RT?

Yeah sure, nice reflections but i prefer having a smooth experience with my 144hz monitor

I would get an RTX 3070Ti only for performance, wouldn't care that much about RT, i care more about DLSS

[solid dome]

One half of the people expecting STALKER 2: Gimme muh graphics
The other half: If you're going to do ship story with no atmosphere and K-pop for the soundtrack, DONT BOTHER!

This is the stalker fanbase since ST2 was announced

[silk bough]

Its not about getting RT at All costs, But I would love to have the perfekt experience with the New game, we all have been waiting for 10 years+.
And getting A really stunning looking Stalker helps with the immersion and the feeling.
And RT is A really cool technology for creating this immersion.

[solid dome]

Since you can't please everyone, which side you think GSC will lean on? Graphic whores or Hardcore fans?

[silk bough]

Mostly the hardcore Fans, tbh. But the Trailer showed that its also really good looking, like it deserves.
And the engine Supports RT, so i think thats A legit question.

And many old Fans of the first Stalker are pretty old nowadays, so they cant rely only on old hardcore Fans. Many will have stoppen playing.

*stopped

[solid dome]

So far, since nothing really related to the core game was shown, besides it'll - damn, like its surprising - have artifacts and anomalies... I'd say it's all about the graphics

That's for the moment

[solid dome]

Many did, many are still here since 2007.

Honestly... I think this franchise didn't need a continuation solely cause the current game industry doesn't even know what quality is

Yeah, one way or another ST2 might have its lucky day. Although if ST3 is to happen at all, I can bet my own savings it'll be degraded piece of crap.

[silk bough]

but maybe especially because of that? It could further prove, that StoryDriven Singleplayer games are not dead. Metro did a really good job for this part, that you can make really good money with a good product and no service game mechanics.

[solid dome]

1-2-3 is the lucky number

Everything after isn't worth, appllies to every sort of media

[silk bough]

why? We have waited 15 years since the first stalker, who knows in which state the industry is in when 2037 approaches?

[solid dome]

One can predict right now

...by the way things are currently

[silk bough]

Stalker, Stalker CS, Stalker COP

there are already three games

[solid dome]

Call me extreme pessimist, nothing goes for good

Those 3 games happened in different era

No games-as-service, no matchmaking, the term "DLC" was just getting popular, no lootboxes, no SJW drama...

[silk bough]

I am looking forward to the new game, I have high hopes. But I am mostly an optimistic person. So yeah, let's hope for the best.

[silk bough]

DLC isn't as bad as EA let's it sound. a DLC could also be a full expansion with new regions, new weapons und more like The Witcher 3: Blood and Wine.

Which was a really good expansion of the base game with a really big map, new questlines etc.

only because you can now download it and don't have to go to the store for the product doesn't make it bad. it's the content which matters, the way of distribution shouldn't matter.

[solid dome]

I was giving you a solid example why it was a different era, so different there is no comparison to how things work these days

[sand fiber]

what's the point of rt

in 95% changes nothing, in other 5% changes so little that you don't even notice

[silk bough]

but only because things are different, that doesn't mean, that everything produced today is Cr*p. Maybe GSC is different, they have a history of delivering complete experiences. And I really hope, they ship the product when it is finally finished, no big day1 patch or big problems like with CP2077. And they took their time, to deliver us the best possible product. But we will see

[solid dome]

If you think ST2 will not have day 1 patch, you better remove your eye patches then cause you're deeply lying to yourself / trying to convince yourself in something you know isn't true

[solid dome]

Its made for those rich kids who aren't taught what actual art is when it comes to games

Man how do they sell the new hardware else, they have to invent this and that to be able to promote it somehow

[silk bough]

you are really fun at parties, aren't you?

I seems that everything is black and white in your view. But mostly black. Just let us wait and hope there will be a good game.

[sand fiber]

history of delivering complete experiences? you mean that time when they completely reworked the first stalker 4 times? or when the huge point of OL/SoC advertisement were driveable vehicles but in 2006 they cut that? or tons and tons and tons of promised content that didn't make it into the release? or all the big talk around a-life and how it would make a living organism out of the zone but resulted in "gulag" system that can be seen in soc?

history doesn't matter tho, it's devteam who do, but almost no member of that is in the current gsc now

[fluid abyss]

We ranting about GSC?

[silk bough]

I can only tell you, that i had no gamebreaking bugs and had fun with the product. I really couldn't care less if they revamped the game 4 times, at the end I liked the product, and This is what matters the most for me. I don't care if they revamped the game or sacrificed kittens, as long the product is solid.

[silk bough]

some of us are.

[fluid abyss]

Consoomer

[sand fiber]

^^^

[dry imp]

wait you had zero game breaking bugs in stalker? you're absolutely lying

[frail spire]

"I don't care as long as I get my product"

trash person, trash opinion, trash taste probably

[fluid abyss]

Don’t get me wrong I liked the games too but devs should try to keep their end of the promise as much as possible

[frail spire]

By that opinion it doesn't matters if they release it as an early game with donations as good as it "ends" being good right?

[dry imp]

@silk bough also based pfp

[silk bough]

not in COP, not in CS, not in SOC. but to be fair, i've played them some time after the release and not on day1. maybe the stability issues and bugs you experienced, were already patched back then.

[frail spire]

bro the first versions of the game were a mess lmao

also SoC was in dev hell for a long time

[fluid abyss]

Nah bro games are janky as balls if you know what to look for

[dry imp]

you are lying. those games are well known for their instability and bugs. it also kinda adds to the charm of them. they're not bad games but you're literally lying if you think they're bug free

[frail spire]

if it wasn't for people getting involved then the franchise would have straight up died since no one would have bought it

[fluid abyss]

Big one I can think of is railgun not falling off roof when it’s supposed to

[dry imp]

another one is the "find the weapon of the dutyer"

[silk bough]

As i've stated when they relaese it in a complete state. Which i hope for, espacially after Cyberpunk i hope that the devs and the management in the industry learnt their lessons.

[frail spire]

Big bug in early SoC builds is you getting near the freedom base and the guy who gives you the next story quest is literally dead because as soon as he got spawned some weedomer sniped him down

and hardlocking you from the main storyline

[sand fiber]

do you consider false advertisement okay? and btw it literally did not, game had and still has so many issues on so many levels, from the usual "it was unplayable on the first versions" to deeper design problems originating from all the content they cut

[frail spire]

To this day people has issues with the base games because one day they may work perfectly and others it won't start up unless you rollback your drivers

[dry imp]

the engine is terrible

[frail spire]

I love the games, I truly do, but I won't get rose tinted glasses

[devout canyon]

how's everyone going

[dry imp]

yeah they're good games but you're literally blind if you think they're stable working games

[silk bough]

I just played the games and back then were not interested in news about games. I bought it, played it and had fun. The railgun problem in SoC never occured in my playthroughs. But yeah, I didnt play it on day one.

[dry imp]

i played it last week and its a buggy mess still

[sand fiber]

not caring about anything except the product itself is a bad attitude btw, first because everything surrounding the product and the product are by definition deeply tied, second is, like, i enjoyed cyberpunk 2077, should i not care about workers rights violation in cdpr?

[frail spire]

Like, if you say you don't care about anything but the product then you shouldn't complain about things like cybercoom because people knew it was going to be trash halfway into development time if you were actually paying attention

[sand fiber]

[dry imp]

i loved people being so hyped for it and doing things like making $2000 custom pc builds before it came out

then it came out

i knew it wasn't gonna be that good to begin with

[frail spire]

"I don't care if the guys making this game made extremelly bad and shady decisions that could affect the development of the game, I just care that the game comes out, I don't care about quality or having a good game"

I was expecting to be bad but I wasn't expecting the No Man's Sky-tier dumpster fire

[dry imp]

they just want the product to activate happy brain. but then become sad once they realize its a bad game

[sand fiber]

still don't get where all the hype came from, i think 77 is genuinely amazing but like, cdpr's pr company wasn't as big for that levels of hype around the game

[frail spire]

the hype came from cdpr just making good games, even if TW3 was ok-ish

[dry imp]

i also never even heard if the game until like a year before release

[frail spire]

then they also brought keanu reaves in which was literally the only actor doing non-trash movies at that time

[dry imp]

apparently its been hyped for like seven years

[silk bough]

thats the reason I didnt perorder cp2077 and waited until it was for sale. And it was no good product at this time. Now it's much better, but it is nowhere near what was promised and no good game. And it made a big dent on the reputation of CDPR. But yeah, thats exactly what i dont want. and before i buy the game, I will have to read most of the reviews. Dont want to waste my time and money on a bad product.

[frail spire]

imagine reading critics and not torrenting the game yourself

[dry imp]

[frail spire]

I sure love to read [curated critic under the pressure of being blacklisted]

[dry imp]

i usually like to watch gameplay of games to decide if i want to get it

[frail spire]

or [hey guys I can't say anything bad because NDA or something]

[sand fiber]

o funny story btw, tw3 experienced the exact same problems cp77 had at release, it's just that there weren't crazy numbers of people playing it day1, so they had a chance to fix all of the mess

[silk bough]

also a good thing, can give you ab better feeling for the game.

[frail spire]

for me TW3 was trash, straight up dumbed down version of the older ones

[dry imp]

please stop abbreviating cyberpunk to cp

i love cp!!!

[silk bough]

oh boy.

[frail spire]

Cybercoom was just the Death Stranding of our times

[dry imp]

death stranding wasnt tha long before it

[frail spire]

no but it was shilled to death

[dry imp]

its still our time

[frail spire]

with literally no gameplay, only cinematics and kojima masturbating on stage

[sand fiber]

idk, tw1 is cool, yeah, but tw2 is just... a really weird experiment

[frail spire]

Norman Reedus and his feetus

also they hired a whole orchestra for like 4 years in a row while shilling their game

and coming to games cons with literally NOTHING but their DS trailers

[sand fiber]

funnily enough i find it similar to stalker, the first cool distinct game, then the second experimentish project without which the third game couldn't exist, and then the third part itself capitalising on the experience

[frail spire]

at least GSC isn't turboshilling their game, at least not yet, but we'll see when they're forced to do advertising

[silk bough]

and at the end it's a glorified postal service simulation with some weirdness.

[sand fiber]

tw1 and tw3 can't be compared in the same way soc and cop can't imo

[frail spire]

yeah it ended up being a LITERAL walking simulator

tw1 was fine, tw2 was them trying new stuff, tw3 should have been an expansion that somehow ended up being a whole game

pretty much like stalker

[dry imp]

so uh

whats tw

[sand fiber]

the witcher

[frail spire]

The Witcher

[dry imp]

alright

[frail spire]

Pole hunting simulator

[dry imp]

based? i hate poles!

[sand fiber]

idk, more like tw2 was a demo for the full project, remember that a lot of cop concepts actually originated in cs desdocs? the same deal here, at least feels like it

[frail spire]

Like, I still remember how they said you were going to have a lot of "investigation" in The Witcher 3 and when the game came out you had a button with the name of "Witcher Sense" which if you don't use you''re unable to do missions

[sand fiber]

ohhhhh yeah that's a huge design problem

also reliance on a minimap

[frail spire]

they also said you were going to be able to have different playstyles but you only get sword and magic

and I think that the magic side sucked ass and was mostly to complement sword

so yeah, bunch of fake advertisment, fake promises, etc.

like your average slav

[sand fiber]

[dry imp]

[frail spire]

not even going into how they showed some super high-res super detailed pre-rendered gameplay during the cons and when it came out it was more or less on par with skyrim with a few graphic mods

[dry imp]

i hate the prerended gameplay strat

so many games do it

including stalker 2 so far

[solid dome]

Funk the demonstrations. It's hell of a game worth playing, funky world, intriguing characters and... you could ride a horse or steer a boat

[hearty vigil]

Idk, but he joined a vanilla-only server just to discuss his mod, and when he was told not to do that, immediately left.

[hearty vigil]

Since NDA contract lasts 5 years and the development started in 2018, how possible it is for us to start getting insides in 2023 because someone did not resign it and can now spit info about the game?

[solid dome]

Suspicious as heck

True that? ...didn't know the 5 years period

They better change their content plans before people lawyer up

[hazy helm]

LMAO

[solid dome]

Even so 5 years seems A LOT OF TIME

[solid dome]

What, if you're into trouble, you Better Caul Sidorovich

[worthy lagoon]

CS received tons of patches lol

[worthy lagoon]

NDA can last indefinitely

[dry imp]

yeah most NDAs actually dont have a time limit

[spiral rock]

Man just got done with SoC again. Thoroughly enjoyed the Strelok boss fight xD

[fluid abyss]

hmm well NDAs may be no bueno but if someone were to have unsupervised access to GSA computers…

[hearty vigil]

Yeah, but we have seen GSC docs.

5 years limit is not taken out of nowhere.

[sinful lion]

do you preffer the direction cop was headed, or do you preffer the gameplay of the og?

[hazy helm]

I prefer the direction SoC and CS were headed

and feel like CoP cut too much

[worthy lagoon]

??

[solid dome]

GSA computers?

[fluid abyss]

GSC

autocorrect or something

[solid dome]

They'd leak what has to be leaked and we'd expose a scheme

Nothing that wasn't done in the past

GSC may NDA everything as long as they can, alas the longer they keep doing it, the more it smells

Usually the closer you are to the source of the smell...

[fluid abyss]

the more it stinks the more pungent the taste

mmm mmm cheesey

[long nymph]

never played stalker before and i was wondering which ones i should play or if i should just play them all in order.

also im guessing mods like gamma are too much and i should just stick to bug fixes

[frail spire]

Soc, CS, CoP

[dry imp]

someone finally gets it

play the originals first and then play your overhaul mods

[long nymph]

ight ty guys

[sand fiber]

nah, just play vanilla without anything

[cyan canopy]

Beta weapons skins

[hazy helm]

What

[cyan canopy]

https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker/addons/beta-weapon-skins-for-shadow-of-chernobyl

[hazy helm]

Just do vanilla for your first merry go around

[potent bluff]

Anyone know how is Zakh doing? Did GSC fired him or he still working for them?

I hope it's the later one

his emote is still here. So that's a good sign

[hazy helm]

I think I'm justified in saying an Emote ammounts to very little check his linkdn

[hardy gorge]

Hi, I have a question... I haven't played in a long time so i don't remember, but do the games have an order and are they related in some way?

[worthy lagoon]

The trilogy have an order to play since they are all related to each other, the order is:

1. Shadow of Chernobyl (SoC)

2. Clear Sky (CS)

3. Call of Pripyat (CoP)

Then as a 4th one there would be STALKER 2 Heart of Chornobyl (HoC) since it is a sequel of CoP, set in modern times

It is not mandatory to have played the trilogy before playing HoC, but it is HIGHLY suggested to play the trilogy before playing STALKER 2 HoC

[hardy gorge]

ohh I didn't know that CoP and HoC were related

[worthy lagoon]

HoC will be a sequel of the trilogy, the trilogy ends at CoP, so yeah

[hardy gorge]

now i'm more eager to play it

[worthy lagoon]

Either way, that's the order

You start with SoC

Oh and btw

Clear Sky is a prequel of Shadow of Chernobyl, but it should be played after Shadow of Chernobyl (otherwise you'd have problems in understanding the context)

[hardy gorge]

yes... from what little I remember of the game it was somewhat confusing since it was with that that I started

[worthy lagoon]

Hope this time you will not be confused

[hardy gorge]

yeah

for some reason i love these post nuclear disaster type games