⭐┃nospoilers_general

[solid dome]

Cossacks is and has been a niche franchise for 200000 years already

[rotund jungle]

He was just a child 😭 taken too soon by the zone

[celest heart]

He

Will be back soon anyways

[sly matrix]

Missed that, he was fairly insistent in his questions. Hope he finds his way to the wiki

[waxen wraith]

does anyone know if the OST "108bit of the Zone" is avaiable on spotify?

[solid dome]

Check it for yourself

I doubt it is

[timid trail]

Is true that GSC is deleted the preorders of the game ?

[devout zealot]

No

Xbox store preorders are automatically refunded when a date moves too far in their system. Other platform preorders were unaffected. Previously in the Xbox system it was still listed as a 2022 release. They updated it, and Xbox auto refunded

[solid dome]

How they can delete preorders, dude...

[timid trail]

I don’t know I was asking that because of some news here on my country

[solid dome]

If they delete preorders, game is gone

[solid dome]

Where you at?

[timid trail]

Italy 🇮🇹

[solid dome]

The Pizza Empire

No need to worry about preorders

[timid trail]

Also the carbonara empire

[timid trail]

I preorder the game this January but some news on my country are based on nothing at all and scares me

[devout zealot]

if you're preordering on steam or gog, it was unaffected

[solid dome]

You having preordered scares you?

Don't you think that's utter stupid? What matters is if the game comes out in good shape or at all...

If preordering scares you, hot damn lord

[frail spire]

Preordering can either go terribly well or terribly wrong

Either devs pump out an unfinished game because preorder autists already dunked like 300 bucks in the "I love semen" edition or they actually use the money from preorders to pay codemonkeys and deliver quality fluids for the "I love semen" edition buyers

[solid dome]

So true it's painful

While funny

The 300 bucks shipheads always ruin the experience and then blame someone else

Sounds like bank robbers getting the money and blaming the bank owners

[frail spire]

See fallout 69 and the canvasgate

[solid dome]

Or smth like that
Canvasgate? Gamersgate?

[frail spire]

When they sold their crappy $200 buck edition with a bag that supposedly was high quality canvas

[solid dome]

Lol

Butchersda

[frail spire]

But turned out to be crappy velcro which launched the whole thing into a disaster

[solid dome]

Hahahaha

[frail spire]

Then they did the same for the nuka cola bottle with rum

[solid dome]

What was wrong with it?

[frail spire]

Everything

[solid dome]

No rum at all? Leaking?

[frail spire]

Go watch internet historians video

[solid dome]

Not in the mood for it to be honest

Why are u up so late if I can ask, Ghost?

[devout zealot]

FO76 was not just a preorder disaster it was a disaster in general

[solid dome]

Trouble sleeping?

[devout zealot]

the fiscal underperformance of FO76 is also the largest single factor to why they were looking for somebody to buy them

[solid dome]

Hmm

How do you think Sturdfield will pan out?

Sweet god

We're offtopic talking in the stalker channel. Almost didn't notice.

[river plume]

Been playing AA , got to wild territory, and every time I go back to the bar , the game crashes, im burnt out from this mod, it's beautiful and all, but the corruption of the saves really turns me off, anyone have any good recommendations on a good mod?

[worthy lagoon]

What even is AA lol

[river plume]

Autumn aurora

[frail spire]

You can try ogse/ogsr

Which is SoC with some QoL stuff

It has a lot of backtracking though

[buoyant siren]

i hope the game wont flop after what the devs been through, the soundtrack released today is a big MEH...

[frail spire]

the ost is meh, not a very stalker-ish vibe

it's more on par with what you would find in a shooter with aliens and horde mechanics

[ashen axle]

Bendy52#3502 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[frail spire]

too fast paced for what stalker is, you could try using it in extremelly action packed sections like the endings since at that point it's not about hearing but about killing and dodging a grenade once in a while

or when you turn the brain scorcher at radar off and the whole place is swarmed by monolithians

[sly matrix]

Or escaping flooding underground

[frail spire]

or literally anything where needing to hear doesn't matters

which is like 90% of the game

[sand fiber]

feels like something from cyberpunk, but i think it can work well in-game

[frail spire]

"It feels from cyberpunk, but it could work in stalker"

ok dude

[sand fiber]

yeah? some tracks from soc had the same vibe

[craggy jewel]

am i the only one who thought of the bornana song by eminem with the OST video

same bouncy beat and vehicle swerving lol

[finite dragon]

the new soundtrack is cool tho for loading screen

thanks dev

[river sky]

Gamma is ticking all the boxes for me atm

[warped tulip]

honestly menu theme or loading theme would be an amazing spot for it

[ruby quarry]

so I just started playing clear sky

I accidentally "help" this dude at the clear sky base and activate a task

so now I have to return a PMm and 3 AK-74 bullets

the thing is idk how to return it

nvm I know how to return the thing now

[hazy helm]

well done

[ashen axle]

Rosen#8728 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[olive karma]

Is that true xbox started refunding preorders of stalker2? I read that somewhere.

[hazy helm]

It is,the uncertainty of stalker 2s release date made Xbox pull all preorders on their platform until the released date is set

[solemn steeple]

Any word on PC editions? I was able to get a pre-order on the ultimate physical and don't want to have to try to find one again in the future lmao

[frank latch]

hey uh

im kinda stuck on the "Unknown" quest on Call of Pripyat, i got the Gunslinger mod installed and apparently there's a ghost Degtyarev here

knifing him, shooting him, or just flashing a light source to him makes him dissapear

[sly matrix]

just a controller messing with your brain

[frank latch]

huh

there's a controller i need to kill ?

[sly matrix]

just a joke; )

[teal frost]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/stalker-2-refunds-reportedly-being-issued-due-to-release-date-postponement/ Umm.. guys is this true? Mods? Admins? any info about this

[hazy helm]

It's true,it's on Xbox's end rather than GSC's

[teal frost]

Well i guess your right

[hazy helm]

yes,I know

[maiden wolf]

Game Legends is no longer shipping to the US. It will not let me select the US as a country for shipping.

[still nymph]

the games been postponed? like, completely?

[teal frost]

I guess so

[broken stone]

No, not indefinitely, the date is still somewhere in 2023
Just it seems like xbox doesnt like TBD dates and so its taking off the preorders until an actual date is put up

Development is clearly progressing

[still nymph]

didnt it say on the games showcase it was 2023?

[broken stone]

Yes, i corrected myself

[still nymph]

oh ok sorry

[broken stone]

Nw

[robust granite]

Were they allowing that before because it never gave me the option.

[dense bear]

They were. I currently have a pre-order from game legends to the US.

[robust granite]

When did you order? I want an ultimate but cant find anywhere to order....

[dense bear]

like 5 or 6 months ago

it was not available for long time. I got lucky and one showed up

checked every day and one day the option was there!

[dense bear]

before that I managed to snag a pre-order(Ult Retail) from Amazon UK but still tried for game legends. after i got a game legends one I canceled my amazon uk order.

[robust granite]

Amazon uk will ship to the states?

[dense bear]

yup

otherwise a shopping service can do it for you. but im 100% sure they ship to us

[robust granite]

Shopping service what in the world... online shopping is crazy now apparently

[dense bear]

had to use a shopping service to buy something off Olx.pl(Poland) as I did not have the methods of payment they wanted and shipping was weird.

[fluid abyss]

I hope/assume that they would continue to ship in the US if you ordered when it was available

also, for ru/ua people out there, might I suggest a rough translation for what you put in #📜┃s2_suggestions because I would like to be able to read it without having to google translate every non-english comment

[dense bear]

Sure that would be nice, but to be fair the #📜┃s2_suggestions channel is not advertised as requiring any specific language like this channel is.

[fluid abyss]

true, but it is a little annoying to have to translate it myself

[dense bear]

i find it fun

[fluid abyss]

shoutout to the guys who take the time to put in an english translation

[dense bear]

I'm learning Ukrainian on Duo Lingo so I don't mind

i think it can go both ways

[hazy helm]

I huh,really dont think they will even read the message or care for it

[solid dome]

Росене.. Росенеее... At least MS does one thing right.

[olive karma]

I hope Steam wont jump out with same decision, i wont give them back preordered stalker🫡 otherwise ill just buy physicall version with a lot of Bred.

[hazy helm]

steam doesnt care,dont worry

[finite dragon]

hey guys'

where can i ask questions here

oh well

yeah in this server

oh well

[hazy helm]

depends on the kind of questioon but go ahaed and ask it here

[finite dragon]

guys i have a problem in SoC where saving crashes my game, and ZRP doesnt work because i cant download it with the complete mod installed

[hazy helm]

of course you cant,ZRP isn't compatible with Complete neither do I think the saves from Complete work on ZRP

[finite dragon]

there is some on reddit but it doesnt solve my problem btw

[hazy helm]

tell me have you ever played this game before?

[finite dragon]

i know that i read it on the zrp files

[hazy helm]

then I do not understand the question

[finite dragon]

but is there any way to solve it other then zrp

i heard to launch it on admin mode

[hazy helm]

if this is your first playthru I'd recommend playing vanilla,Complete mod sucks for newcomers and ZRP changes enuff to be noticeble
tho if you cant I dont see a way to solve it without going directly to the root of the problem and fixing it,stop the game from crashing

[finite dragon]

its not

its like my 3rd playthrough

[hazy helm]

if Complete isnt working under no circumstance and you cant fix it,then youll need to do a clean install unfortunatly

[finite dragon]

i am suffering

but it started in the NPP

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/42vnoc/shadow_of_chernobyl_crashes_whenever_i_try_to_save/ same with this reddit post

[hazy helm]

I mean,have you tried launching the game from the exe with admin previleges?

[finite dragon]

i have but the option wont pop up when i right click the thing on my desktop

and i can find where the files are

i can illustrate it but no image perms

[hazy helm]

go to steam and right click the games title,hover on manage and click on brow local files

[finite dragon]

still doesnt work.

i can send you my SoC logs

[hazy helm]

I cant help you here,without going and getting a fresh install

[finite dragon]

can you elaborate

like uninstalling and reinstalling stalker

[hazy helm]

deleting the whole folder and reinstalling to make sure a fresh install

[finite dragon]

oh

[celest heart]

Sidorovich or Barkeep

You can also sell weapons to stalkers (as long as the weapons are not too damaged)

[hazy helm]

🤨

[celest heart]

Sidorovich is the fat man inside the bunker where you first woke up

Barkeep is in Rostok

[hazy helm]

no

only in COP\

Call of Pripyat,its the third game,dont worry about it now

focus on Shadow of Chernobyl,SoC

[void vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-cat-gato-gif-24361581

[rugged river]

[solid dome]

You have Stalker 2?

Quick, shove it under the door. I'll make a copy of the DVD and return it back in 5 mins.

Quickly, dude

Go away and never get back here, you rat.

🗿

[solid dome]

Good Old Grog

[worthy lagoon]

Dear God what am i seeing

[junior quartz]

Any1 know what happened to pre orders

[finite dragon]

sonar buug ibo eshak hood moments 2016 kontol, indonesia.

[junior quartz]

Bro english

[finite dragon]

Thugnar

nle sognar

[finite dragon]

Idk tbh

[devout zealot]

PC preorders are unaffected.

On Xbox, GSC hadn't got around to removing the Q4 2022 release date they previously had until recently. When they did remove it, Xbox automatically refunded digital preorders on the platform.

Preorders on Xbox will be reopened once they specify a new release date on the platform, I assume this will happen once they feel more confident committing to a date

if you preordered a physical copy from a retail store, that shouldn't be impacted

[fluid abyss]

sigma PC wins again!

[cedar forum]

No. No. He didn't just say that...

[shell ivy]

stalker 3 🤯

[devout zealot]

Photograph captured of Kierr_ returning from the future to bring us Stalker 2 and 3
https://resizing.flixster.com/PCGftmDSrGqGcLlTqlD0y8U7woA=/300x300/v2/https://flxt.tmsimg.com/assets/p7764_i_h9_ab.jpg

[high panther]

What’s the best upgrades on a viper 5 in stalker clear sky?

[lyric forge]

Yo

[finite dragon]

[rotund jungle]

stalker 3 in real!??!

[chrome cloud]

https://www.pcgamer.com/stalker-2-studio-denies-further-delays-despite-xbox-pre-order-refunds/
about preorder refunds on Xbox

[rocky trellis]

People actually use SMGs? They aren't just inaccurate pistols?

seriously, just get an AK or something if you want to fire full auto

[toxic vector]

the problem with most AKs in stalker games is they dont have good fire rate to counter bloodsucker

a TRs-301 is the all rounder

[rocky trellis]

should be using a shotgun anyway, solves mutant propblems efficiently

[toxic vector]

i only need a TRS-301 full mods with 800 5.56 rounds to clear any maps

[rocky trellis]

good luck having space to carry any loot

[toxic vector]

ofc, instead of carrying a good shotgun and 50 buckshot rounds , you can carry extra 500 5.56 rounds for your TRs

[rocky trellis]

not exactly... you'd be surprised how much all that ammo weights. On top of not being exactly the best tool for the job.

oh wait... does the OG game have unrealistic weight on ammo?

[toxic vector]

only around 10kg for 800 5,56 round?

[rocky trellis]

yea that for sure is less than it would really weight...

double that and we'll reach more realistic weight. No wonder I've gotten used to carrying as little ammo as possible while playing stand alone mods

[toxic vector]

0.011 kg per 5.56 round (soc) https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/5.56x45mm_SS109

i wished they could finish gunslinger mod or atleast complete the LR300 before 2023

[rocky trellis]

If you ever end up playing stand alone mods like Call of Chernobyl or Anomaly, you'll learn to love shotguns.

Well, they were even in OG game my go to weapon for hunting mutants.

[toxic vector]

switching weapons feels unconvenient for me

i prefer to carry an all rounder AR and an RPG for shooting helicopter

that is my favorite loadout for most FPS games

in MW 2019, my all rounder AR is this one https://imgur.com/a/T0gfNnO

[proven shadow]

TOZ 34 is soo good in anomaly. You can use it for 90% of the game

[rocky trellis]

I prefer a sniper + shotgun

But one that has high RoF

Accuracy is king

[sand condor]

should i consider supporting gsc by buying season pass

[rocky trellis]

Well, you might get your moneys worth for it. Hard to say when we do not even know what its going to give

[sand condor]

iirc theres 2 expansions

normally i don't buy games like stalker 2 since its on gamepass

[rocky trellis]

Its confirmed it will be on game pass?

[sand condor]

its 100 percent on gamepass

[worthy lagoon]

You can fully support GSC by buying the retail version

If you want all the money to go to GSC ofc

[hazy helm]

any game that Xbox has ever invested into the development off is guaranteed to be in Gamepass day one

[sand condor]

i believe its timed exclusive at launch

for the first 3 months

[rocky trellis]

That is not how retail works... They for sure take bigger portion on top of material cost than Steam does

[sand condor]

i can't buy physical anyway

[delicate sparrow]

buying Cossacks 3

[toxic vector]

accuracy is for human, shotgun for mutant but what if you have to fight both at once in some unexpected situations?

[rocky trellis]

What do you usually do if you have to reload your gun?

Just swap if there is time

[harsh oyster]

2

[rocky trellis]

I usually focus on mutants because they approach aggressively

[toxic vector]

i reload while running, but extended mag is there. so it's not a problem

[rocky trellis]

Stay out of sight of pew pews, kill mutants and then back to humans

[toxic vector]

what if you are in passive situation?

monolith shoot you while mutants are charging to your place

[rocky trellis]

Stay in cover and shoot mutants. But depends on what mutants.

Of course just take risk and run if cant kill them fast enough

[toxic vector]

sniper rifle has low fire rate and high recoil

even in some mods, there is scope sway

[rocky trellis]

Not the one I use. 20 clip and rate of fire faster than pistol

[toxic vector]

so you snipe with an SVD

[rocky trellis]

Does mot 1 shot everyone to head, but vlose enough

Not an svd... that is too slow. Full auto sniper rifle

[toxic vector]

SVUA?

[rocky trellis]

I do not remember the one I use in vanilla, but it comes with a silencer

[toxic vector]

VSS?

[rocky trellis]

Ye

[toxic vector]

but that one has slow velocity

[rocky trellis]

If I recall right its more than enough with full upgrades, or even without

What matters to me is accuracy and that I can make quick follow up shots

[toxic vector]

and its ammo weight is almost as twice when comparing to an 5.56 round

[rocky trellis]

Yea, but you need far less ammo due to low waste of ammo. Headshots are lethal, but exoskeletons usually survive

And body shots against average armor kills quickly

No bullets miss either

[toxic vector]

well, the TRs-301 has mild recoil and it shoots straight, easy enough for killing all types of enemy

fire rate is the best, thing cant be killed with one bullet can be killed with a lot of bullets

[rocky trellis]

In anomaly the average is 3 bullets for each enemy in full blown combat with no time to aim for heads

I carry 120 and it gets me up to 40 kills if enemies are not excessively armored

Shotgun also carries its weight in close quarters

[toxic vector]

thing i dont like in anomaly is human enemies drop too few ammo

[rocky trellis]

That is a problem, but I like the challenge. You need to buy all the ammo you use

[toxic vector]

we should be able to find at least two full mag per human corspe, that makes more sense

[rocky trellis]

That would just make you rich and make buying ammo pointless, unless its rare type

[toxic vector]

just make armor stronger and the problem solved

[rocky trellis]

That would make combat worse surely

[toxic vector]

make all gun accuracy have more spread

[sand condor]

will monolith return in stalker 2

[hazy helm]

of course

[sand condor]

oh boy

am in for a terrible time

[hazy helm]

@magic perchhelp scammer

[worthy lagoon]

?

[hazy helm]

a scammer came in here so I pinged dezo

[sacred wadi]

Can I sleep in Stalker SoC? If yes, where I can sleep?

[hazy helm]

you cant

go outside while its dark,what are you scared?

[rapid sand]

is release date now dec 2023??

[worthy lagoon]

It's 2023, the month is unknown

[solid dome]

It's 2023 and could easily turn into 2024 or 202X, 20XX... worst ever - X023

No wonder this gets to be the next Duke Nukem Forever

Infinite delays, disaster launch and barely anyone remembers that crap

[proven cargo]

though I don't think DNF got delayed due to a war happening where the game development was happening 🤔

[solid dome]

@glossy blade For Strelok sake, you guys shouldn't do that ever. You'll know better why if you have played that game, DNF.

[proven cargo]

well, afaik Stalker 2 isn't getting delayed because the dev leads wants to imitate current trends in video gaming, like how DNF got delayed over and over.

[solid dome]

Is war happening in the Czech Republic? Nope. The "war happening" argument is only valid if they remained within the country where the situation escalated, but since they moved out and continued the game's development cycle, you can't go with as an excuse.

[proven cargo]

ah, ok. was too apathetic to care if they had moved or not

[solid dome]

As for "yeah but they have families there" that's personal matter aka different topic

[proven cargo]

ye

[solid dome]

You can't involve your personal life in your business life, if you do, you failed at logic

...i think

There are boundaries you shouldn't ever cross, like... thin red lines

[balmy hound]

As of today, this should calm down any rumors about delaying again for now : https://www.gamesradar.com/stalker-2-has-not-been-delayed-again-devs-say/

Probably you guys already read it.

[solid dome]

You don't need to read it

Its that GSC has strange understanding of terms

[balmy hound]

You can read the URL only 👍

[solid dome]

I don't need to read the URL only as I know how GSC handles stuff

It's all about language barrier (English understanding)

Nothing wrong in that

Nobody has to know English perfectly, considering his mother tongue is different

Maybe other way of seeing things is GSC doesn't want to use the term "delay" afraid not to... dunno

God knows what is in Griga's head

[balmy hound]

Last Gamescom showed that it's the whole industry that is delaying their games to 2023.

Even big players weren't there.

[solid dome]

In order to make this URL even more funnier it should be changed to stalker-2-has-not-been-shown-yet-devs-admit

Lol

[ashen axle]

Atryx10#0525 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[solid dome]

Hold on what I did?

[proven cargo]

oh, you can't cuss

[solid dome]

Oh you did it

Yeah no profanity, no using even shi---

[proven cargo]

ye, I said the f word to emphasize a thing in a sentence

[solid dome]

I mean shishlik

[proven cargo]

didn't know cussing was banned, now I have slowmode enabled I think

[solid dome]

Slowmode enabled per se

[balmy hound]

Mee6 is protecting me, I think your message was an answer to me 🙂

[solid dome]

What were you going to say anyway?

[balmy hound]

I saw a short lightning

[proven cargo]

well, time to repost the message i was gonna say, without the cussing: it's a great blessing that that happened, I'd rather wait a year for releases than continue having mudcakes delivered

ie. the delay stuff

[solid dome]

Screw delays

[proven cargo]

bruv, that's some entitled speak right there

[solid dome]

Are there any games out there worth the wait except this one?

You can count em on one hand perhaps

If not few fingers

[proven cargo]

I mean, cp77 would've been, if it was delayed until it was actually finished, and not kicked out the door before it even went into the oven

[balmy hound]

That's the point Krezzin, the whole industry is delaying...

Hardware and energy shortages.

[proven cargo]

gotta love how nuclear energy is in the hands of private corpos, leading to nuclear plants being shut down as it isn't profiting them

[wraith bluff]

That entitled mindset is why cp2077 happened at all

[leaden rampart]

i need help

[balmy hound]

Which country do you live Atryx ?

[proven cargo]

Sweden. Think all our powerplants have been shut down by now

[solid dome]

Are you waiting for some other game - unrelated question?

I think I only follow the news with Tempest Rising - new C&C-like RTS. Besides that? Nothing else.

[proven cargo]

I legit was under the impression that governments were responsible for the nuclear powerplants, seeing how dangerous they can be with improper management, but nah, just put all that stuff on the corporate sector, no biggie

[solid dome]

Sweden. Good economics. Bad - you name it

[leaden rampart]

how do i match the monolith armor color

[balmy hound]

Aw I don't know the situation in Sweden sorry. Here in France, the energy company owning the nuclear power plants (EDF) has been taken over by the state a few weeks ago. It's not a private thing anymore, but a state one. I think they are doing more or less the same in the UK.

[proven cargo]

Good economics
It has been at a roughly 1% economic growth for several decades
omegalul

[solid dome]

At least your economy and our economy are like comparing Star Trek to Uwe Boll movie

(Uwe Boll, worst movie producer on planet Earth)

[proven cargo]

fair enough
Though you gotta admit his Postal movie was pretty spot-on

[solid dome]

Haven't seen it yet

Only watched Far Cry and Blood Rayne, and another one I can't name now

[balmy hound]

Yep, i'm curious about some smaller games like Somerville (from the devs of Inside) and Bramble : the mountain king. But I think even these smaller games have been delayed to 2023.

[proven cargo]

wonder what has happened economically to make all the greedy publishers (ea, activision-blizzard, bethesda, etc.) to delay as well, since this'll """make them less money"""

[balmy hound]

I don't know what to answer to that, there are more or less good numbers... and the way of life. I would love to leave Paris and to get into the countryside.

[solid dome]

I'd love to get to Norway and live in the countryside

Not because the climate. It's the first place that comes to mind.

But like Rick Astley says.. "Never gonna (happen)"

[balmy hound]

Sadly, I don't think paradise exist somewhere in Europa for now, but time changes things fast !

[solid dome]

Paradise exists in the middle of the ocean

If you can stand being alone

[proven cargo]

no internet
sounds like not paradise, ngl

[balmy hound]

Even that, people are saying you've got the beach, but no job, nothing near it...

It's other problems.

[solid dome]

No internet yeah, but crackling sound from the campfire...

[solid dome]

Sure you have a job

Standing the challenge and showing to yourself you can fight for a cause: surviving

Let's move to #💬┃en_offtop

[balmy hound]

Yep xD

[leaden rampart]

does anybody know the monolith armor color

or palette atleast

[sand condor]

who wonders how atmospheric stalker 2 will be

[proven cargo]

isn't it just ash/marble gray and rust brown with container green?

[leaden rampart]

wasnt it just olive green?

[proven cargo]

Well yeah, I just couldn't think of the name, so I just said whatever came to mind as close enough

[limber ocean]

does anyone know how to get shadow of chornobyl and clear sky working on geforce now??

it just goes to a black screen when I change any settings or try loading in

[void vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/1017695267480416287/A55FA55E-8C7B-4269-9F6C-8685ACE406E8.gif

[limber ocean]

that doesn't help

[proven cargo]

maybe a win10 compat. issue?

[hazy helm]

I highly doubt they'll work

[high panther]

@solid dome what’s good in the hood?

[waxen wraith]

Hey guys, I found the GSC studio building in Prague, was this known information before? I never seen when they exactly moved, there were only leaks of them moving to Prague

[broken talon]

Yeah, their address was leaked almost after their moving to Prague.

[waxen wraith]

"leaked" its on google maps.. or do you mean leaked like before they announced it?

[broken talon]

Yup

[waxen wraith]

oh shi

i mean it doesnt matter, we would find out eventually

[broken talon]

Someone saw them riding metro in Prague and so they've discovered the new address.

That was almost right after the devs moved to Prague.

[waxen wraith]

when was it? in march (month after the invaasion) , do you know when?

im actually visiting prague (as someone from czechia) soon, so maybe ill visit the front of the building to have a look lol

as someone from a small town, i never seen a game studio IRL before

[broken talon]

That was in the middle of May.

[waxen wraith]

hm ok

thanks for the info

[fluid abyss]

I know tarkov style magazine reloads have been suggested but I have another idea

what if it is automatically done passively out of combat, and the only time you have to actively do it is during combat

though it would probably just bring about a layer of complexity for no good reason

[peak minnow]

Either have refillable mags or don't, a in-between would only be weird and confusing

[fluid abyss]

or perhaps it would automatically do it upon entering a safe hub

I'm thinkin insurgency sandstorm and how in that game you can't fill the magazines, but you get a fresh supply every spawn

[peak minnow]

I would also say it doesn't make much sense, it will be just like tarkov, people running with 10 full mags and almost never refilling them

[fluid abyss]

realistic mag weights would add up

[peak minnow]

you could just make the ammo heavier

Make it more rare, expensive, degrade your gun faster, etc.

[fluid abyss]

plus unlike sandstorm u aren't in constant combat in which you dump your mags, die, and repeat, this is stalker where expeditions are much longer so yeah you could take 10 but if you intend on making anything more than a short back and forth run, you'd have to refill

realistic boolet damage and weight

[peak minnow]

It would be cool but it will also be more frustrating, tedious and annoying

I played EFP and I don't really enjoy tarkov mags

Even though I have 2k hours in Tarkov

[hazy helm]

I'd like to say taht forcefully jamming EFT mechanics into Stalker will only end up harming Stalker in the end

what is wrong with easy to understand normal system?
system guud

[tropic junco]

I love anomaly lol
I started, a few min later there were 3 dead zombified stalkers infront of rookie village, and I got an AK, Pumpgun (in really good condition), SVD and silenced glock 19 for free

[solid dome]

Eh...

I knoe what's good....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SBPZ_pdv4

Although offtopic, king o' snake, man

[sly viper]

tarkov mags and in general tarkov inventory requires way too much drag n drop in multiple windows making the player easily waste time and immersion on pointless micro management

mag styles on the other hand...

[frail spire]

Yes let me manually load every single of my 60 mags worth of ammo

[devout zealot]

Yes the game should be built like QWOP

You have one button to raise your left arm, another for your right arm. You need to steer your arms into the bag with these two buttons to find each bullet. Reloading should take months of training

[worthy lagoon]

??

[worthy lagoon]

Ah yes, zombified stalkers where there shouldn't be any

[sand condor]

how big will stalker 2 will be

[sly matrix]

3.7 bananas

[sand condor]

for real?

i wonder if we can eat bananas

[sly matrix]

if you eat 100 bananas you receive the same amount of radiation as you get from being in the US for a day

[sand condor]

looking forward for obsolete technology like pda

also i hope there's different types of backpacks and body armour

like civilian grade back packs that carry less and possibly different capacity of weight carried

[frigid patrol]

i just hope that there will be a way for rp servers so that i can troll

[fluid abyss]

brilliant

it should be fps project zomboid, where you must do everything

[civic drift]

It's Unreal Engine 5 so expect some serious bloat. 100-200gb

[devout zealot]

File size will be more to do with use of many high resolution assets, not the engine per se. Plenty of UE4 and other engine games have been pushing into the 100+gb range for years.

The ue5 ancients etc tech demo used extensive very high res photogrammetey assets

The Matrix Awakens UE5 tech demo was only 26gb despite having a full city in high detail. Stalker 2 being 150gb implies many unique high res assets imo

[finite dragon]

Am i allowed to ask for help on stuff regarding installing anomaly mods?

[frank latch]

Is there any kind of NPCs in Stalker that vanish into thin air if you attack or flash light sources at them ?

[hearty vigil]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications would be a bit more appropriate for anomaly discussion

[hearty vigil]

Dunno about flashlight, but with attack that behaviour can be observed on most unique characters on faction bases in Clear Sky.

[proven cargo]

UE5 games should hopefully take less space in general, due to how their LoD system works, as it lets you be rid of depth maps from what I could tell. Hopefully it'll turn out that way for Stalker 2

[sand condor]

am talking about the size of the world

[sand condor]

the city might be generated

[finite dragon]

Long story short i stole gsc xray 1.6

Jk jk another guy gave it to me

Also is 131 gb for sum reason anyone want the engine

Is compressed to 20 mb

Damn i dont have nitro soo no xray for you

Bummer

[tropic junco]

Aight thanks

[muted haven]

Wouldn't a lot of the anomalies from the series be literal infinite energy sources

Take burner for example

You throw a pot of water into it and it starts boiling within seconds

[sly matrix]

anomalies aren't permanent according to lore

[proven shadow]

Even if they were permanent would you even build the infrastructure in the Zone ?

[solid dome]

64 km2, half of it an empty map with buildings you can enter but you see nothing inside

/s

How big was Cordon in size?

[solid dome]

What?!

[hazy helm]

he must mean the leaked Xray Engine builds

[solid dome]

Vasim you are using new tech, I'm a Boomer with old tech

Takes time to click the Reply button

[hazy helm]

the perks of a RTX3070 and a Ryzen 3600

[solid dome]

I gots Ryzen 3600 on the PC too

Rock solid CPU

[hazy helm]

then why's you pc so bad?

[solid dome]

I'm not home you dumbo

The PC is at home awaiting for me to turn it on after almost a year

[polar steppe]

should i literally work my ass off to buy S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 Ultimate retail edition for 350 euros?

[solid dome]

[solid dome]

If you're for the toys... There is no physical copy of the game anyway. Imho, not worth it.

[hazy helm]

not really

[solid dome]

You can still buy the things off someone who doesn't need em after for cheaper price

[polar steppe]

too many options imo

u should get retail stuff even if u buy ultimate edition on steam

[solid dome]

If there is no physical copy in the box - if I was you, I'd not buy it

GSC are selling a game, not discounted items from some chinese market stand

😄

[polar steppe]

ye imma go with the steam one

dunno if it's worth spending 40 euros more for the ultimate edition

[solid dome]

On another note, nobody seen how the game plays yet

It's like buying meat from some random person on the street

[polar steppe]

im probably gonna wait 1 month after the game releases

[solid dome]

Yeah far better

Not trying to change your mind - you won't no matter what

Simply saying my opinion

[polar steppe]

ye i got it,thanks doe

[solid dome]

Attaboy

[polar steppe]

https://www.pcgamer.com/theres-now-a-permanent-stalker-themed-supermarket-in-kyiv-where-you-can-buy-stalker-brownies-and-more/

why did i not know about this

[solid dome]

We seen it

STALKER 2: You can't see how the game looks but go buy brownies

[polar steppe]

i honestly hope it's not gonna be garbage

+IT'S 60 EUROS FOR THE BASE GAME

[solid dome]

If they go full politics mode, it'll be a stinking hole

Yeah no chance they won't go politics mode at all, it's what investors are after, it's where money is, however if not too much, I can live with it

[solid dome]

Sorry for being political myself

😄

[finite dragon]

Im stupid i confused it with 1.31 g

[cerulean ibex]

Delayed indefintely?

https://twitter.com/ChernobylX_tour/status/1568567037638676480

[sand condor]

wasn't it been delayed since xbox showcase

[long harbor]

romania moment

[devout zealot]

"Indefinitely" is a pretty strong way to describe it. They are still targeting 2023, but are unsure of the date. By removing the previous target date from the Xbox system, they triggered the refunds. (they had not immediately removed the date after they announced this delay a few months back, so it still said 2022 on Xbox for a while)

[proven shadow]

How bad could the game.. why are people so pesimistic about it ?

Cuz for me as long as they have good mod support it wont matter how the base game is

[sand condor]

is removal of date automatically triggers automatic refund

or atleast xbox

[devout zealot]

Its been suggested it is, but it may be something Xbox staff do in response to a date being removed rather than strictly automatic.

Either way, gsc didn't ask them to go out and do refunds intentionally. Hence they didn't send refunds on steam and gog etc.

[tropic mist]

What's this about pre order refunds? I ordered both physical and digital and I don't really want a refund, just happy to wait to get my code and physical goodies

[broken talon]

It's a policy of Microsoft. Until the devs announce a new release date.

[tropic mist]

Is that a xbox thing only then?

[broken talon]

Yes

[void vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-waiting-spongebob-waiting-im-ready-dead-gif-22457697

Be patient fellow Stalkers

Back in my day CoP was all we got till the series stopped

[solid dome]

Devs: Announce a new release date. Devs change the date
MS: Oh boy, oh boy, son, its annoying already. Knock it off, kid.
Devs: New release date for ye. Expect more news next week.
MS: Aight cool
Devs: Old release date is no more.
MS: Geezer

This is actually funny (rather than sad)

[broken talon]

I guess, we'll see Microsoft version of Dean Sharpe.

[void vortex]

Xbox version sounds like a meme

no offence

[solid dome]

Xbot sounds like a meme itself

Playstation, if happens to get the game, sounds like a meme too.

[void vortex]

It's a PC first game

I hope they won't Metro-fy it to hell

[solid dome]

PC on the other hand sounds like Powerful Computer! It's like 120 jigawatts machine.

(Back from the Future vibin)

[void vortex]

Xbox won't have mod support from the community. At best payed DLC options from established mods. It's MS after all

So.. no thanks

[devout zealot]

Xbox allows curated mods for fallout 4 and skyrim

[void vortex]

No soup mods?

[devout zealot]

It will be up to gsc to facilitate it, most likely. I wouldn't hold my breath

[frank latch]

hey is there a way to hide the "[pc name] - save" notification when saving in stalker ?

[broken talon]

I've heard rumours that some testers said that the game felt like Fallout 4. I hope that there're just rumours.

[void vortex]

No. you can change your PC name to change the saving option

[frank latch]

ooh

[devout zealot]

A lot of people will be playing on Xbox simply because it's coming to gamepass day 1. Quite a few people who have never played the series before will have their first exposure here.

[void vortex]

Rookies tend to forget it and I accidently see their full name when live streaming

xd

[void vortex]

true

Imagine a remake of SoC in unreal 5 lol

[devout zealot]

If I was in charge of doing an enhanced SoC I would probably cheap out, steal open xray and extend that for a cheap cash grab. Then party on a tropical island

[void vortex]

If the Bandit faction had to remake SoC

[solid dome]

What are thosse mods, gameplay changes? Cause I can't see anything beyond that being possible.

[devout zealot]

I expect the largest difference in feel between stalker 1 and 2 will be that 2 will probably have more accurate weapons. From the trailers it does seem that way.

[solid dome]

For further modding you need PC to even unpack the game files....

[solid dome]

Lmao

[solid dome]

Lmao was meant for this

[void vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/1017695267480416287/A55FA55E-8C7B-4269-9F6C-8685ACE406E8.gif

[solid dome]

What happens if Military was in charge of SoC remake?!

[finite dragon]

🤔

[void vortex]

You'll have to pay 500 rubels every time you change location

in real time

[solid dome]

Dung

[finite dragon]

beetle

[solid dome]

And if you press Cancel you be teleported back to where the game started

[devout zealot]

Bug fixes (unofficial patch), graphics mods to tweak performance or improve visuals (much less significant than what you can do on pc of course). Full dialogue interface mod is available.

There is a surprising amount. Skyrim and f4 both have a mod that uncapped the framerate.

[solid dome]

[void vortex]

You'll get thrown in front of the CS machinegunner

[broken talon]

There won't be any money-greedy officers and deserters in UA army.

[solid dome]

So scripting is possible there, but how?!

Virtual kb?!

Nah that too hardcore

I know kb+m support exists but...It wasn't a thing few years ago.

[devout zealot]

The mods are made on pc, then approved for deployment on the Xbox version I believe. Never made one personally

[solid dome]

Fair nuff

Cheaty sons of guns.. Making PC stuff porting it to consoldes

[devout zealot]

Re: military, it's hard to imagine a Stalker set in the modern day (s2 is supposed to be roughly contemporary) would have the same attitudes towards the military that the original games did. I do expect less of a negative depiction as is

[acoustic parcel]

I assume that the military realized it can't hold back the hordes, so they at most try to dissuade you from entering, and instead try to make the Zone safer, siding with Duty and Ecologists.

Depending on your actions, they will be either neutral or hostile to you in game.

[solid dome]

Military in STALKER 3: Flying jets, dropping bombs killing not mutants but Duty fellas, always by accident, dropping beer packs instead of food supply...

[acoustic parcel]

Military in STALKER 4: What's a military? Big stick go boom-boom.

[devout zealot]

"I know not with what weapons you will be equipped in stalker 3. But stalker 4 will be mostly sticks and stones"

• Albert Einstein, probably

[acoustic parcel]

The Zone is a brutal place, but damn.

One of S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2's endings should involve reactors 1-3 getting destroyed as a last ditch effort by the Monolithians to protect the Holy Monolith.

[solid dome]

Stalker becomes Far Cry

Remember Far Cry Primal?

[devout zealot]

I try not to think about most ubisoft games

[solid dome]

Ubi-shove-it-soft Games, yey

[devout zealot]

R.I.P. Heroes of Might and Magic

[solid dome]

RIP, what a game was HoMM 3

Many hours spent

[devout zealot]

Still is. I play with my friends every year

[solid dome]

Absolutely brilliant thing yeah

They killed it like "whatever, next franchise please"

French bus...um...tards

[mint coral]

I need in help in SOC
I am inside the underground of the agropom institute and trying to find the strelok guy
There is a monster with tentacles and I killed him.But every time I kill him,the message "get a part of the monster task failed" pop up

[dusky burrow]

can we talk about mods in this chat

i wanna instal gunsligner but cant

ffs cant put images here

[solid dome]

You need to rip...

[mint coral]

Oh no

[solid dome]

You need to rip off his tentacles and grill them at Sidorovich later

[mint coral]

How

[solid dome]

Grill Parteh

Pull, man, pull

[mint coral]

Yeshz but I how do I get his tentacles I don't kill him first

[solid dome]

I'm joking obviously

[mint coral]

Oh no, everything is alright
Not a bug,it's just that my taks has expired

[solid dome]

Sucks

[glad saddle]

hey guys first time getting into the stalker series in more than a decade, any recommendations which game to play first?

[broken talon]

In terms of storyline - Clear Sky.

[hearty vigil]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[hearty vigil]

Release order, so Shadow of Chernobyl.

[random barn]

I recommend starting with Stalker: Misery to get your balls squeezed

[hearty vigil]

Even if we ignore the obvious part of gameplay in SoC being harder to get used to if you play them in storyline order, you’re still meant to play them release order.

Clear Sky is a prequel but it’s meant to be a prequel. You’re meant to already know characters and just see how they develop into what you see in SoC. Playing Clear Sky first is like watching Better Call Saul before Breaking Bad.

In SoC you learn about || Strelok’s Group || and what it is throughout the game. In Clear Sky, that information is handed to you because you should already know it by its first game. On the contrary, you’re not supposed to know who killed || Fang || while you play SoC, this information is specifically meant to be uncovered in a prequel.

TLDR: Clear Sky heavily spoils SoC by tons of foreshadowing. Play release order.

[hearty vigil]

I recommend to never touch mods for any stalker game whatsoever. 🤷‍♂️

[glad saddle]

Thanks everyone!

[solid dome]

Pure vanilla lad

[finite dragon]

welp, in my opinion, some mod are good tho... But still, play vanilla first

[finite dragon]

Guys I have a question the S.T.A.L.K.E.R.2 Limited edition bundle is there one for PC cat seem to find it i really want the pc version of that its only xbox what i see

when i try to find all i see is only xbox

[obtuse crag]

Hello stalkers

I had to travel 514km because my mom sister had a baby and I didnt get the pc because she puts the most useless shit in earth

In the car

[ashen axle]

Zvyaginstev#6472 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mint coral]

Literally duty sigma moment
Religion, Tradition, culture and family comes first
Respectful and honourable men.

[finite dragon]

emmm you should tag the developer

[obtuse crag]

It aint fun in this family.I miss my friends and my home and my pc

[finite dragon]

@glossy veldt @amber oak @next saddle @glossy blade @split flame @ivory swallow

devs tagged now the response

[obtuse crag]

I am using a messed up huawei phone lets say it sucks any.games?

No?well ok

[obtuse crag]

Oblivion Lost

[hearty vigil]

If you mean the builds and not the mod, yeah, that’s halal brother.

[hazy helm]

play the games by release order,I recommend playing them vanilla first before jumping into any mods but is SoC refuses to work on your PC use ZRP

[solid dome]

Goddamn

Still no response

Raciзъм

[hearty vigil]

Does ZRP even have any startup issue fixes?

[solid dome]

Meaning?

Startup issue fixes? Crash upon starting fixes?

ZRP has a lot

[sand fiber]

Play vanilla, play in chronological order.
Shadow of Chornobyl > Clear Sky > Call of Pripyat
Clear Sky is the only one you might wanna get fixes for, i recommend Sky Reclamation Project, though some gameplay issuess will remain.

[hazy helm]

ma man,CS needs no fixes, is beautiful

[solid dome]

Chronological order in what order? Release or lore?

[hazy helm]

chronological release order

[solid dome]

Chronological Sir Vasim

[hazy helm]

😳

[solid dome]

Um, we need bloodsuckers vs bandits mode in any of the Stalker games. ASAP.

[finite dragon]

???wat

[sand fiber]

ahem the worst game in franchise ahem ahem

[hazy helm]

ho you talking COP

I mean its still good,COP I mean

[last pine]

[sand fiber]

nay, cop not just improves upon cs mechanics but remains true to soc's atmosphere

so it's better

[hazy helm]

if what you mean by improving is completely ripping the guts with the precision of a chainsaw and butchering the atmosphere and feel of stalker
yhea,,youre right

[sand fiber]

butchering the feel of stalker is turning the zone into a combat area with thousands of soldiers and faction wars

[hazy helm]

making the zone alive and improving the lore of the groups that have open conflicts is a upgrade to the ideas that were represented and attempted in SOC,same ideas that were removed mercilessly in COP to make it more linear

[proven shadow]

Every stalker game has a lot of generic shootout scenes towards the end

I always felt that stalker was more about the journey than the destination because of that

[sand fiber]

overpopulated and alive are different things
yeah upgrading ideological struggle by literally dumbing it down

to be fair faction politics are kinda bad in all three games, especially in cop, where freedom is an objective good with no downsides, or at least presented so

[hazy helm]

Duty is clearly,the Binary best faction in COP if you count pure gameplay buffs,but yes I understand where youre coming from

[solid dome]

Let's see who dare knock on my door

Someone one did I can't figure who

[proven cargo]

anyone know how large the great swamps is?
I figure it's like a 2x2km area, guesstimated on player movement speed and how fast you move on the pda.
Though the "tactical map" of the great swamps on the wiki makes it seem more like a 20x20km area.
Man it'd be awesome with an enormous swampland filled with tons of mutants and anomalies. Genuinely wouldn't mind it if the DLCs for the game were to be expansions of that kind, where you'll get pretty massive new areas to get yourself killed in. :p

[obtuse crag]

Ahem keep that.opinion to yourself ahem

[fallen adder]

hey bro whats your favorite stalker game?

[hidden ginkgo]

i just got stalker anomaly will i lose everything if i die i nstory mode

[proven cargo]

The early part of CS, ie. the swamps. Otherwise I like CoP for how it's a decent sequel to SoC and builds upon the game mechanics and fleshes out the world with stuff to do.

[fallen adder]

I think the SoC is my favorite

[sand fiber]

Not an opinion, just facts.

[proven cargo]

The atmosphere in SoC is indeed top tier, especially when you go underground for the first time.

so damn good and spooky-like

[fallen adder]

bruh just keep your opinion to yourself

[fallen adder]

oh yeah when I was like 9 I played it for the first time I was scared as hell!

[proven cargo]

I can agree in that the ending of CS is weak, what with large portions of it feel like cinematic action set pieces and there only being 1 ending (afaik), though it's also somewhat comforting in that you won't feel like you messed up and missed some important side-mission or something when you beat the game and credits start rolling :p

[fallen adder]

yeah I can see that

[proven cargo]

And then after you have a "nice" shootout with some bandits, you get greeted with a blood sucker for the first time. Absolutely amazing immersion building, makes you understand why the zone is seen as absolutely inhospitable to the likes of Duty :)

[unborn crow]

Is this game gonna have the mosin?

[broken talon]

Well, they've recorded sounds for Mosin, so probably yes.

[unborn crow]

Nice

[obtuse crag]

From your pfp and ur words now.I know why Yar thinks people hands grow from their asses

Mobile games are weird

Makarov name is five seven.xD

[solid dome]

How do you keep an opinion to yourself? Do you use tape and tape it on your body, e.g. forehead?

How do you do it?

I want to keep one for myself for after few years so I remember what it was

[frail spire]

you can have faction politics move from what games already established

maybe duty goes from being against the zone while keeping in touch with other factions to straight up being reverse monolith were they become zealots for killing anything in the zone to stop it's spread

and maybe weedomers start loving the zone so much they start becoming monolithians but having a more approachable way with other factions while slowly turning into fanatics as well

at the end of the zone brainrot you either become a monolithian or a zombified stalker imo

[hazy helm]

that sounds awful tbh,the thing with stalker factions was that they werent two extremes,they were very moderate,very believable

[mint coral]

Why does it take so long to kill a military soldier in SOC

What is the solution

[fallen adder]

Aim for the head

[proven shadow]

Stalker factions were always relatable.. the whole thing with duty for example is that at first glance you might think they are zealots or fascists. They are not. They protect stalkers.. they hunt mutants and give their artifacts to the ecologists.

Freedom arent just hippies with guns they see the zone as a wonder and something that should be free for everyone to research and enjoy. They think the zone can help mankind

My point is the factions are complex and nuanced. They avoid common tropes and are unique and "right" in their own way

[hazy helm]

Actually made me want to play CS again lmao, please choose which faction I'll brown nose this time

I'll give you the honours

[waxen wraith]

Any moderators online? I need to ask about a potential security risk (I need clarification if a certain thing is a security risk or not)

Tell me if you online, DM me first.

If I dont DM you back it might be because I'm sleeping.

[finite dragon]

i hope their is a turkish Faction in the game, i think itd be really nice to reference them since Turkey is helping ukrain irl

[fallen adder]

Ngl if I was in the stalker universe I’d pick clear sky as a faction

[devout zealot]

A whole faction might be a bit much but seeing international people in the zone would be nice. Logically, there would be people from all over the world trying to get in

[finite dragon]

yeah

[hazy helm]

🤨 what

[hazy helm]

youve never played Clear Sky ahve you,you cant brown nose Clear Sky in CS,it's much less of an active faction

[brazen patio]

Anyone know where to find Meat Chunk in CoP?

[finite dragon]

what

[hazy helm]

[finite dragon]

do you not know about an entire country?

[hazy helm]

I do not know how youd turn an entire country into a faction

[finite dragon]

bruj

i didnt mean that

i meant like turkish soldires or turkish backed scientists

[worthy lagoon]

BRUH

[hazy helm]

sounds too hard on man

[fluid abyss]

@proven cargo ur stash suggestion is pretty bad bruh

[worthy lagoon]

Why there would be Turkish soldiers in the Zone if they cannot even speak Ukrainian

Also if so

[hazy helm]

imagine having a normal talk and the guy just jumps up and shouts into the forest "IM TURKISH"
actually,yhea they wouyld do that huh

[finite dragon]

why wouldnt the turks send soldires ?

[worthy lagoon]

Let's add Georgians, American soldiers and everyone else

[finite dragon]

like why wouldnt they, the ammount of money made from that

plus'

Turkey is right below ukraine

[proven cargo]

:v

[worthy lagoon]

At that point the game wouldn't make any sense either way

[finite dragon]

and irl turkey and ukraine are allys

[worthy lagoon]

Bruh

[finite dragon]

bro you are litterally looking for reasons at this point

[hazy helm]

I find this suggestions deeply amusing honestly

[worthy lagoon]

It doesn't fit in the universe

[finite dragon]

it literally does

[worthy lagoon]

Just because they're "helping"

[proven cargo]

I mean, are you forgetting mercs exist?
they're international afaik

[finite dragon]

thats what im talking about, a faction like the mercs backed by the turks

[worthy lagoon]

Because if so, we should add everyone else too, including Georgians and almost the entire EU

[worthy lagoon]

BRUH

W h y

[proven cargo]

It's the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[finite dragon]

becuase irl turkey would do that

[worthy lagoon]

I think you guys played too much Anomaly

[finite dragon]

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/turkey-regional-power/

[worthy lagoon]

Or never played STALKER

[hazy helm]

mha man just wants turks in the game
its the only country I could see someone actually going out of their way to suggest and support such a thing

hahahahhahahaha

[worthy lagoon]

I can understand like a graffiti or something small

But a faction or even characters

Bruh

[hazy helm]

it is real,

[finite dragon]

oh yeAH and it makes sense that U.S backed mercs are in the game?

[worthy lagoon]

Except that we don't know who backs up the mercs

[hazy helm]

they really arent

[finite dragon]

they use NATO weapons

[worthy lagoon]

Ah yes

[hazy helm]

are you dumb?

[finite dragon]

Dont they??

[proven cargo]

ah yes, NATO, the international alliance of USA
XD

[hazy helm]

they do but simply bc a guy uses a LR300 doesnt mean he is a blue white and red stripes man

[worthy lagoon]

Black market

International clients that can be anyone

[proven cargo]

afaik it's tons of different countries and companies that back various merc groups for various reasons.

[fluid abyss]

it punishes players for keeping stashes, which in a gameplay sense would suck
u wanna make the game more fun & engaging, and not a drag

[hazy helm]

do you have any idea,just how many countries use the M4 platform,just how many guns are on the OPEN market,and the black market too

[finite dragon]

literally played your self, thats what i mean Turkish backed mercs

[worthy lagoon]

Have you ever played STALKER trilogy?

[finite dragon]

im on clear sky rn

[proven cargo]

not really, if you hide it well it'd never be discovered unless you sold the location. Like, there'd be a threshold where if the chance of discovery is below it, it's set to 0.
I might just be too sleep deprived to actually make any sense to people rn it seems ;y

[hazy helm]

Mercs are Mercs,literally just Mercs,not even backed by a single country,more like detached isolated groups that may on occasion work together under a contract made on behalf of a company

[worthy lagoon]

And what else have you played?

[finite dragon]

i played the first game

[worthy lagoon]

What

[proven cargo]

yes!

[hazy helm]

SoC

[worthy lagoon]

What's the first game

[finite dragon]

WHAT

[hazy helm]

bro did you play the games Kuro?

[finite dragon]

its soc

omg

[worthy lagoon]

Stalker trilogy is not ordered in numbers

Smh

[finite dragon]

dense

[proven cargo]

like bullet

[hazy helm]

literally,SOC-1
CS-2
COP-3

[finite dragon]

d e n s e

[hazy helm]

the release order ma man

[worthy lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[hazy helm]

gladly

[finite dragon]

man

[worthy lagoon]

Of release*

[finite dragon]

no

[hazy helm]

yhea that,o damn

you didnt see that

shut up

[finite dragon]

im gonna save up 1500 and pay the devs to add turkish backed faction just to spite all of you

[worthy lagoon]

[hazy helm]

good luck,knowing what youre suggesting I can see you arent gonna get very far

[finite dragon]

i am presistant

[worthy lagoon]

That won't happen don't worry, but you can pre-order the retail version if you want to support GSC

[proven cargo]

I misread that as president and nearly laughed myself into a coma

[finite dragon]

awesome

[hazy helm]

Im eagerly waiting for if you do,by all means,please

I want a stalker to run out of the bushes and force me into a conversation whose only answers are IM TURKISH over and over,only for him to run off into the distance

[finite dragon]

id love this

[ashen axle]

smek#8324 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite dragon]

):

[fluid abyss]

yeah but all that does is make player stashes a pain in the ass

without any sort of blatant context menu telling you about it, chances are that many players will have their stashes taken without them knowing why

that sort of addition would either hurt the immersion, or make people think its a bug (iirc there were issues with player items being replaced if they put them into stashes that were initially undiscovered but then became available later)

[proven cargo]

if you make the requirements for "good stash location" too high, I'd wholly agree that it'd be a massive blunder to incorporate, but letting people learn how to hide their own stashes based on stashes made by other stalkers in the world would make it more intuitive, I do believe. Might need to have a study on this, since it seems like a fun thing to analyze. (hide and seek is fun :y)

[proven cargo]

also, this isn't going to be developed on the x-ray engine, so issues like that should hopefully not crop up (being really optimistic with how the game will be on launch here, but still)

[fluid abyss]

im just sayin it would make things more of a pain in the ass

you'd have to go OUT of your way in order to put your stuff away

[worthy lagoon]

Do people even use stashes aside from the ones in safe areas?

[proven cargo]

I mean, I hardly ever found any place where I could put my stuff away when I played through CS, so in my opinion it would be an improvement over how that game handled stashing of items

[fluid abyss]

100 rads bar

[fluid abyss]

due to their usually out-of-the-way locations and known bugs, probably not all that much

[worthy lagoon]

I just have almost no reason to stash my stuff in a non secure place

[proven cargo]

good question, could make it so that the entire purpose of my proposal gets turned into "will you be able to sell the location and have it be found by the buyer, or will some rando loot it beforehand".

[worthy lagoon]

I either sell it, keep it or stash it in my personal stash

[worthy lagoon]

Ah yes, good luck with that feature

I think it would be a waste of resources

[fluid abyss]

This sort of reminds me of my "stalking sniper" idea where an NPC tries to snipe you from far away, but the first shot will always be a miss because nobody likes getting domed out of nowhere without warning

[proven cargo]

I mean, if you get dangerously close to being unable to move due to being overburdened, setting up a stash and then selling it would be a pretty nice thing.

Anyways, I'll drop the thing entirely now cuz I feel like a squishy toad going "reee" whenever someone starts bringing up potential faults with the thing XD

(I should really sleep 👀 )

[worthy lagoon]

Though they could add some rare unique quests where they steal your stuff from a personal stash, like in CoP

[fluid abyss]

like the spooky teleporting dudes from bioshock infinite (I have not played this game)

[proven cargo]

I wonder if anyone has suggested the ability to repeatedly perform upgrades at mechanics, like for example switching between customized grip and generic grip, or between smaller and larger calibre of the barrel in a weapon, i.e. upgrades that would realistically be feasible to reverse if performed. Ofc. undoing an upgrade (where possible) would likely be more expensive than getting the upgrade, but having the ability to try out what works for you (without having to have 2 of the same weapon or armor) would be really nice.

(p.s. I really dislike having a 2 hour cooldown on posting in the suggestions channel rn XD)

[hazy helm]

Honestly I hope they keep upgrades and weapon progression as close to COP as possible

It was the best balanced of all the games,weapon wise

[fluid abyss]

@worthy lagoon yeah but imo I end up primarily using the AKM-74/2 (the silver AK) because its ammo is super common and its pretty decent when you mod it out

[worthy lagoon]

Which is a common weapon

[proven cargo]

I can't recall if you could undo upgrades you weren't happy with or if you had to scrap the entire item in CoP :/

[fluid abyss]

with it being replaced with the FT-200M (F2000) late game

[worthy lagoon]

Meh

Weapons jams

Especially if you go in a laboratory

[fluid abyss]

not as common as the AKM-74/2U imo, plus that black AK that uncommonly has the underbarrel GL

[worthy lagoon]

Shrugs

[fluid abyss]

I've also never really used that one funky gun with the built in GL

[hazy helm]

You had to scrap the gun,which is good,it makes you plan out a build and that builds to your liking and punishes those that go into it absent mindedly

[frail spire]

weapons jams but not after 5 mags

don't be farcry 2

"Oh I fired 30 rounds, now my pristine weapon looks like something out of the gun torture porn channel"

[worthy lagoon]

You get what you find

There are already modified weapons (unique) too

Like in SoC

Which would make way more sense

[frail spire]

Yeah, usually you go with uniques unless it's guns you really don't like using

[fluid abyss]

I have never really used the IL 86 (the bullpup brit gun) or the TRs 30 (the mint green AR) unless it was the first gun of that ammo type I got my hands onto (but then usually I'd stick to 7.62 weapons until late game because its better anyways)

[worthy lagoon]

Who even uses IL 86 in end game

[proven cargo]

true enough, but I feel like simply having the ability to undo (where realistically applicable), but at an increased price, so you don't have to go out and search for the same weapon or armor for like 30 minutes would be really nice, as you'd still get punished and have the risk of ruining the equipment, but if it's only a minor mistake it's still salvageable :y

[fluid abyss]

the VAL/SVD I have never really used, same with the RPG

[frail spire]

Nah, if you upgrade you should be stuck with whatever decision you made

[worthy lagoon]

Also, no need to balance weapons

[hazy helm]

It really isn't as big of a deal as you make it out to be,and if you make a mistake you should be stuff with it so you need to learn and do better

[worthy lagoon]

We all know that the most OP weapon is the knife

[hazy helm]

it clearly is the PMM

[frail spire]

also did they confirmed if guns will be tiered like in the old games?

[proven cargo]

I repainted my weapon
it's ugly now
literally can't repaint cuz not allowed, have to throw gun away
I'm really doing mental gymnastics here, athlete 🦾 XD

[hazy helm]

Nein

[worthy lagoon]

Since when you can one shot BTRs with a PPM?

[hazy helm]

How tf is skins now an upgrade?

[hazy helm]

With the magic of the druids

[frail spire]

weapon paint
lol
lmao even

[hazy helm]

The mental gymnastics

[worthy lagoon]

If yo watch the weapons video it looks like it, especially the Vintar

[frail spire]

Like, we can't talk about balance until we know if they'll balance guns around being tiered or if they'll do more or less the same damage but with more penetration coming from ammo types

[proven cargo]

I'm using hyperbole to indicate that the upgrade is very minor, and should be able to be undone, like replacing a wooden stock with a polymer stock, or something similarly easily performed.

[frail spire]

so I'm guessing we'll have the usual ak>nato>svds>gauss

[worthy lagoon]

I wish

[fluid abyss]

IMO I want guns to be super customizable

[hazy helm]

So what you're saying is,you want taticool customisation with no bearing on weapon stats

[worthy lagoon]

You forgot shotguns

[frail spire]

shotguns have their special place

[worthy lagoon]

You see, STALKER ≠ EFT

[frail spire]

since you can use them for literally everything

[fluid abyss]

EFT?

[devout zealot]

I think the ultra hardcore stalker community might be grumpy about weapons no longer being unable to hit the broad side of a barn while aiming down sights, crouched and kneeling. But I think modern audiences would have eaten the game alive if they'd kept that kinda stuff from the OG

for early game weapons I mean

[fluid abyss]

like for example Metro Exodus's weapon customization was really cool, but I disliked how for the most part the modification at the bottom of the list was almost always the best modification for that weapon part

[frail spire]

modern audiences
lol
lmfao even

[hazy helm]

I want a mag fed pump action shotgun

[worthy lagoon]

There already is

[frail spire]

Metro had no weapon customization though, it had linear upgrades that simply had visual confirmation that they were upgraded so you didn't accidentally dropped your old gun by mistake

[hazy helm]

I am not counting the bulldog,that's a rotating crank mag

[proven cargo]

Kinda, like IIRC in CS an upgrade that improves weight of a shotgun is replacing the stock with a polymer one. Which should by all means be something you can undo, but if we use regular STALKER upgrade mechanics, testing out different stock types would mean scrounging up a handful of shotguns, just to test how it performs in combat, etc.

[frail spire]

It was literally the same as stalker on upgrade regards

unless we're talking exodus which I didn't play because who cares about a metro game that isn't about the metro

[worthy lagoon]

Always remember

[hazy helm]

Got really sad they ditched the metro

[worthy lagoon]

EFT ≠ ANOMALY ≠ STALKER

[ashen axle]

Pizza Kuro#6157 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[worthy lagoon]

You should burn

[hazy helm]

Like I said,you want visual upgrades

You want your guns to change model and nothing much else

[fluid abyss]

I mean they had pretty obvious icons for weapons on the ground and yours, plus different keys for swapping/stripping so you had to be a dummy to accidentally drop your gun

[frail spire]

I'm all for visual upgrades on the same upgrade system guns currently have in CoP for example

[proven cargo]

not really, as reducing weight is a stat changing one, but it's one that would be reasonably easy to undo.

[frail spire]

anything more than that it will cause the issue of certain upgrades being simply better than others

thats why the upgrade system branches off, so you can't pick 5 -10% recoil in a row

[worthy lagoon]

How about just copy and paste the same system there is in CoP

[frail spire]

and turn your gun into a gauss but with bullets

[hazy helm]

I really don't like the idea of dumbing down Smth so easy as upgrades simply BC the Devs thing players are too dumb or have attention spans so low that they won comprehend the systems at play

[proven cargo]

I mean, that's how the upgrade system has always worked in stalker. Nightvision, carry capacity, and artifact slots are the best upgrades you can get, aside from sprinting on exosuits

[frail spire]

I remember playing a mod that literally modified the upgrade branches and allowed you to have something like -60% recoil and then gun literally had the reverse recoil

[hazy helm]

best system in the series,10/10

[fluid abyss]

zero recoil zero damage zero accuracy 😎

[frail spire]

you would fire the gun and instead of going up it would go down

[hazy helm]

Didn't know they added the vector to the game

[fluid abyss]

imo I want to be able to minmax weapons, not because it would be OP, but because it would be ridiculous and fun

[devout zealot]

Stalker progression was traditionally based on weapons and gear, so I don't think linear upgrades are necessarily bad (if I'm understanding what you're saying). Like instead of swapping from AK -> AN94 -> M4 -> G36 through the game, it would be possible to keep the same gun but upgrade barrels and ammunition type you're using to keep the weapon viable for at least big chunks of it.

Just as a hypothetical

[worthy lagoon]

Didn't saw anything about it

[fluid abyss]

imagine having an AK with absolutely horrendous stats but can one hit chest shot most human opponents

[frail spire]

I'm against one gun being just objetively better unless it's late game

[fluid abyss]

you can one-hit enemies, if you can hit them at all

[devout zealot]

being able to min max is ok in a single player game, dubious in multiplayer. Unless it's super erasy and obvious what to do in order to break the balance, in which case y ou've gone too far

[worthy lagoon]

You see, it's not the weapon that kills the person, it's the bullet.

[frail spire]

late game do whatever, but early and mid game your gear choice should matter

[fluid abyss]

or a rifle that can mag dump in .5 seconds, with a 5 second reload

[hazy helm]

Suffice to say,the upgrade system in Multi will be separate from the upgrade system in single

[proven cargo]

from my experience in CS, early and mid game the gear mattered, (unless you got the clear sky heavy armour suit, in which case you're set until late game) but late game it was mostly just your artifact build that mattered, which just meant getting a suit with as many artifact slots as possible (SEVA)

[fluid abyss]

having a decent modification system would mean that early game weapons matter more than late game, because by late game you can find/buy/craft all of the late game modifications and tune-ups for your guns

[worthy lagoon]

Then you have to find the toolkit

[frail spire]

guns are plenty customizable in CoP as it is imo

[proven cargo]

nah, the flashdrive! XD

[hazy helm]

Artifacts meant a lot more on older games which sucks BC COP happened and they were relegated to free anti rads or money making machines which killed all their cool factor and usefulness

[worthy lagoon]

Upgrades were locked for a reason

[frail spire]

you just need the visual que so you can feel good for having a fully decked gun

also upgrades need to stay locked

[hazy helm]

why do I have to remember the bad parts about CoP when I remember the good parts

[proven cargo]

I mean, I nearly accidentally got the "too much money" ending on SoC thanks to artifact hunting. Never happened in CS due to how rarely they respawned.

[frail spire]

if all upgrades are good from the getgo you'll kill the game

[worthy lagoon]

^

[frail spire]

You'll just autistically grind the early zone until you gear yourself to the utmost limit

[fluid abyss]

I'm absolutely ROLLING in cash by the end of every playthrough

[frail spire]

and in old games a fully upgraded sunrise or a fully upgraded akm hits hard

[worthy lagoon]

Tbh, it sounds skill issue because no gauss rifle

[frail spire]

regardless of how basic the gear is, because the upgrades are VERY good

[worthy lagoon]

Or no Groza

[proven cargo]

tbh gauss rifle just sounds like ranged knife

[hazy helm]

Making money is ez in every game but making money is especially tedious on CoP due to how they butchered A-Life and how much reliance you ahve on artifact hunting as a crutch

[fluid abyss]

well yeah, having "find the toolkit" type missions or other game level related stuff so that you can't get your hands on all the best stuff early on makes sense

[devout zealot]

I remember a lot of people complaining in 2007 that the most common ending to SoC was the wishgranter riches one because the money calculation took precedence over all the other endings lol

[fluid abyss]

"find the toolkit" "save the mechanic" "find the blueprint" etc.

[proven cargo]

I sadly never noticed an issue with the money making system in CoP, as I was literally only ever artifact hunting, and I don't remember seeing any good paying missions in either SoC or CS for that matter :/

[frail spire]

hell, if they add even more upgrades they should add another quest after you're done finding the toolkits

[fluid abyss]

it wasn't that bad, you just had to buy and sell the same weapon to the same dealer and get all of your money sucked out of you to avoid that ending

[devout zealot]

truly an immersive experience haha

[proven cargo]

or invest it all into vodka stonks B)

[frail spire]

you could also use cheat engine to kill your money too

[hazy helm]

I'm all for making you guns as OP as possible IF you work very hard for it

[fluid abyss]

Find the hidden wine cellar entrance for Cardan

[frail spire]

I'm all for that too but they need to make being able to OP your guns really hard

thats why at some point I suggested more guns with artifacts in them

[hazy helm]

Like the mechanic tasks you with an impossible task or a impossible price for the last row of overpowered upgrades

[proven cargo]

Now this got me thinking of how the gauss rifle uses Battery artifacts as "ammo". Wonder what artifact "boosts" you could give weapons 🤔

[hazy helm]

Aight Imma go sleep now

[frail spire]

imagine a battery infused gun, that isn't the gauss, that made targets slower the more you hit them but the exchange would be less damage

[hazy helm]

Got work tomorrow see you guys later
Have a nice night

[proven cargo]

have a nice night you too!

[fluid abyss]

if you want modifications to use PARTS (like the sights and GL in past games) you could have non-changing conditions like "damaged" "worn" "used" "new" for each part, and then have the better tier stuff found in later areas

[frail spire]

Nah, f that

[fluid abyss]

so a rifle with all damaged parts would work far worse than the same rifle with all new parts

[frail spire]

I want as little anomaly as possible in the game, let modders add that trash later

[fluid abyss]

man idk what anomaly has

I've only played vanilla

[frail spire]

anomaly has a part based system in which you replace at mechanics workbenches

[proven cargo]

Anomaly has some good ideas, and some trash ideas implemented, ngl.

[frail spire]

it sounds good and engaging at first but then you realize that you need to buy a special tool to dissasemble the weapon

then you need to buy even more tools to fix the trashed parts, then you need the specific repair kit for that gun which is expensive as hell if you're going for a high tier gun

[devout zealot]

in the interest of strict realism, since stalker 2 takes place in the near future, there should be a bunch of leftover russian gear that hasn't been maintained since 1989 and explodes as soon as you use it tbqh

[frail spire]

and thats not even thinking of how old anomaly fix system was, in which you had to do all that

and on top of that you needed a very expensive barrel switch kit

[proven cargo]

Anomaly went too far in the "realistic" approach to how items can be handled, but simplifying it so that you only need a tool kit for maintenance of weapons and armor would work fine, imo.

[frail spire]

so you basically end up with a bunch of useless parts because the whole point of stalker is using whatever the hell enemies dropped

so you will never know what gun you'll use since it's up to how much ammo you have

and sometimes you'll pick up a gun that you won't come across way later into the playthrought because it was from some random stalker squad that barely goes around that particular place you were at

[devout zealot]

I'd like some nods to maintenance and weapon degradation but the system shouldn't be too inconvenient (that's what mods are for for the ultra hardcore people who love it).

[frail spire]

System should stay as it is, maybe make the player use a repair kit if the gun is too trashed

otherwise you'll start adding items and a bunch of inventory bloat, which most mods suffer from

[fluid abyss]

das dumb, just make it be the mechanic or a workbench (presumably sitting right next to the mechanic)

[fluid abyss]

imagine picking up an SVD and having it explode shrapnel into your face because it was too rusty

[proven cargo]

they could just make it so that random item scraps such as the bloated amount that exists in anomaly, only increases the "repair kit" durability and nothing else. Making it so when you dissassemble something you'll get back "repair kit" health or smt, idk

[proven cargo]

now that'd be epic

[fluid abyss]

thats just regular stalker