⭐┃trilogy-general

[fast salmon]

JUST FEELS BETTER

[light shuttle]

the best thingi of CoP are refined mechanics from CS, certain sidequests and a half of the maps at best (Zaton and Pripyat, even if Zaton is the biggest walking simulator, both are better than jupiter anyways).

[karmic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-true-cowpoke-pooner-qianlong-gif-3827914201118197286

[unkempt citrus]

@fast salmon @verbal tartan What are the negative side effects of killing the military under the bridge? (I just killed all of them somehow by camping up top with a pistol)

[lavish breach]

Friend is saying there are parts of CoPs story that are offensive is this true

[naive hollow]

Do you know which specific parts your friend is referring to? I can't think of anything from the top of my head personally

[lavish breach]

Some stuff about duty lines and the way they act apparently

[naive hollow]

Well, they are indeed assholes, but I can't think of anything offensive

[lavish breach]

Added detail a Ukrainian person told them that, im guessing they said something that is rlly bad in today's context

[naive hollow]

Maybe @late condor knows what you're referring to, I'm not too familiar with the UA dialogue

[lavish breach]

Fair fair

[late condor]

I ain't aware. If anything EN dub is more offensive with mercs casually dropping the r slur

[lavish breach]

Valid

IM GONNA HANG MYSWLF IT WAS A REALLY ELABORATE MINDGAME GOTO #💬┃en_offtop

[verbal tartan]

Nothing important really, so kill them all you want

Ifthere is something negative about it, its minimal and manageable

[lyric garnet]

do small amounts of radiation in CoP not go away on their own like in SoC?

[fast salmon]

none they try blick u either way

[lyric garnet]

not if you pay them🤓

[fast salmon]

agroprom>

[lyric garnet]

just gotta stay a cordon hobo forever

[fast salmon]

I LIVE AND BREATHE THE CORDON

[lyric garnet]

i fking DESPISE snorks on CoP

i am playing for the first time and i'm underground with a TRS and when theres two snorks at a time i just die because the TRS just doesnt do anything against them and they kill me in like 2 hits

[verbal tartan]

Remember that you can dodge them if you jump to a side right before they jump

[lyric garnet]

yeah im doing that but then they split up and i can only see one of them in the dark and then they double team me in a corner

[verbal tartan]

Maybe carry a gun with an under barrel

[lyric garnet]

i don't have that yet

i have a TRS with a scope and silencer i got off a merc

i shouldve brought a shotgun, i (because im stupid) didn't that a SPSA off a different dead merc

[verbal tartan]

I dont know what a trs is hehehe, so I cant say if thats good or bad

Also, yeah, maybe just go back in saves and get a shotgun

[lyric garnet]

oh my game just crashed awesome

[verbal tartan]

It may happen once or twice, but nothing too bad

[lyric garnet]

yeah propably gonna do that if the rest of the cave is too much BS for me

[verbal tartan]

Oh, yeah, it will

[lyric garnet]

TRS301, the assaullt rifle AR thing, or is it TSR? idk

[verbal tartan]

In fact, carry both a shotgun and a medium-long range rifle. You'll thank me later

[verbal tartan]

Ah, got it

[lyric garnet]

i used to do that in SoC all the time but then i traded the shotgun for extra ammo space

[verbal tartan]

Its just here, and maybe some other place. Shotguns arent that useful here (in the rest of the map I mean)

[lyric garnet]

the mutants weren'T nearly as scary in SoC as they are in CoP

[verbal tartan]

Just aim for the head xdxdxdxd

[lyric garnet]

yeah lol

and overall i feel like enemies hit way harder on master in CoP than they did on master in SoC, is it true? or is it just because i have terrible armor?

[verbal tartan]

They hit more and harder iirc

I would recommend you to upgrade the suit tho, gives you a nice boost

As well as the guns

Sometimes people miss the upgrade system, but it does make a difference

[lyric garnet]

yeah i know that from CS, the guns were atrocious without all the accuracy upgrades lol

the game crashed AGAIN

AND AGAIN

what is wrong with this game man, neither SoC or CS ever crashed for me

[verbal tartan]

Could you post the crash log?

It should be on the game files, appdata, logs, xray_name.log

Its clearly smth specific happening that you should avoid

[lyric garnet]

the file is empty when i open it

oh wait it'S not, i just had to close the game

what channel can i post it on? it doesn't let me send it here

[verbal tartan]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots I guess?
Or just post the final veredict

[lyric garnet]

idk what i'm supposed to look for i'll just post the file, there's a huge huge wall of text

[verbal tartan]

Welp, this is weird, because I'm not seeing the final crash report that it normally should

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message
If someone thats more knowledgeable can help him out, then cool

[lyric garnet]

👍 thanks

i am NOT doing the snork cave thing! it's just too much BS, the snorks attack on the move and push me around

oh and can i somehow get rid of a laptop item i stole from the mercs in the garbage treatment plant or whatever it is? it doesn't let me put it in my chest or sell it, same with some papers and PDAs i found

[verbal tartan]

That laptop item must be given to Owl I think, from Zaton. It is from a quest you are given

Read the quests

And I think you can give owl the pdas too

[lyric garnet]

awesome thanks

[lyric garnet]

can i make it so that the medkit bind key uses any type of medkit i have? it uses only the basic orange ones now and i have to use the yellow and blue ones manually from the inventory

in CoP

[naive hollow]

You can put any consumable in the F1234 slots, so you're free to customize the quickbinds how you want

[late condor]

you can also put any other item with console commands

[verbal tartan]

Neeeeeeeeeerd

[frosty radish]

The cave under the farmstead? Just use a shotgun

Snorks fear the shotgun

[lyric garnet]

the entrance is below the gas station, there's the crashed zaporhozets a dude in skadovsk wants you to take something from. i think the cave leads to the second helicopter crash site by the water treatment plant thing

i need to find the drum shotgun, that's like the coolest gun ever

[frosty radish]

Oh yeah, dw it’s only a couple of snorks, anything but the double barrel should do it

[fringe patio]

hello guys

is there any way to make SOC look better

I want to play the trio, and started with SOC but it looks so dated, I havent played older games before so its kinda unplayable for me

any modpacks that greatly improve the original game

[fast salmon]

VSO

[verbal tartan]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications message

I can recommend this one

But VSO is really good from what I can see

[fringe patio]

can I install VSO on top of ZRP

sorry I'm new to modding in general

[verbal tartan]

Check the comments of vso, check if someone else has done it. Or check if the mod itself says something against it

If not, the one I posted has zrp included and its on the ogsr engine

First try vso with zrp, and if you cant, go vso only, or the one I recommended

Zrp is no really necessary btw

[fringe patio]

The drive you mentioned

is it the preinstalled game?
i can just download and run?

[lyric garnet]

bro SoC is beautiful😥

[light shuttle]

yes, it is

but, being beautiful don't quit have old textures

[lyric garnet]

yeah i get why some people may not like how it looks, especially if they're used to modern games, but games with graphics like SoC are just the most beautiful to me, they are usually full of personality

[verbal tartan]

Yeah, just download and run

[verbal tartan]

I have the same thing really

I mean, I've played doom 1 and system shock. And yeah, I didnt play the original version, because they look so pixelated I sometimes couldn't see important text (mostly in system shock), but if you grab the enhanced edition of those games, they look awesome

Those games are from before 1995

[karmic horizon]

Wearing Combat SEVA while also carrying Environmental SEVA.

[timber bone]

the nintendo switch copy of Stalker has an actual physical version, except it's only sold in Japan

[graceful horizon]

I generally take the freedom exo instead of the combat seva

Next to an environmental SEVA

Carrying capacity of those two match nicely

[frosty radish]

Just enjoy the story

[fringe patio]

Radio phobia 3

Was the answer

[verbal tartan]

No
No it wasnt the answer

It changes the story, the gameplay, the economy, mechanics, adds new story that sucks, same for new sections, and, like, just no

[fringe patio]

Butt...

The YouTube video said it kept the same story?!?!?

😭 spent whole afternoon getting it to run on linux

[verbal tartan]

I mean, it keeps a lot of it

But changes some (a lot) of it too, and adds new stuff, new sections too

Like, no, its not an overhaul, just a mod for like a second playthrough at most, and just to try out new stuff, not as a vanilla+

If you want to experience the games, play what we have told you

Maybe pick the one I sent from the google drive if you want, it looks and feels pretty modern

But for the love of any artistic appreciation that you have, dont use radiophobia as your first playthrough 💀 full vanilla is 100 times better

[frosty radish]

The world fears the zones expansion, join duty and save the innocent

[verbal tartan]

The Man Who Sold The Graphics

[late condor]

I wish all radiophobia as a first time soc experience players a very nice testicular torsion

[verbal tartan]

Actually, I wish that to youtubers who recommend it

Like, why in the hell would you do it

Because you want Gamma 0.5?
I dont get it

[grizzled rock]

redrickshuhart_stalker has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[marsh crag]

Recent news reminded me of this https://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/Stalker_found_innocent_of_texture_theft/1/

[verbal tartan]

"...were instead purchased from a third party, Marlin Studios, who create all manner of textures and models for use in commercial computer games.

It seems that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. developer GSC Game World made use of these textures legally, as did Valve in the making of Half-Life 2. Sources have also confirmed that the light textures thought to have been pinched from Doom 3 are in fact just standard Impact Light Textures, thus explaining the previously suspicious filename; Imp_Light"

So, they did purchase them. Cool

[lyric garnet]

is the only way to move between maps in CoP to pay a guide?

[verbal tartan]

Yes

[grizzled rock]

shevi1140 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[light shuttle]

Yes, because put transitions would FUQK the entire performance

the non-transitions is not 100% intentional

[lyric garnet]

ok thanks

[torpid rapids]

I've paid for the STALKER trilogy on Xbox SX, but I'd like to know if It's possible to play on PC since I purchased it and don't want to pay for it twice...

can anyone DM a solution?

[verbal tartan]

The trilogy doesn't seem listed on the "xbox play anywhere" website, so no

Buy them through steam or gog, check for sales at most

Or check if the xbox app through your pc admits the game, maaaaaaaaybe it is possible, or its even cheaper there

[torpid rapids]

i won't buy it again cuz my summer job is over... so i'll just play it on my xbox /:

[worn flicker]

Very beginner-ish question but i can't for the life of me find Fox's stash. I remember finding in my 1st playthrough in SoC. Right now i'm playing Lost Alpha Revisited and it's nowhere to be found. Thanks and have a great day everybody

[verbal tartan]

I'm checking the Lost Alpha wiki and I cant find any stash related to fox, not at least by name

And I wouldn't recommend comparing your SoC playthrough with Lost Alpha btw, they are very different, for stuff like this hehe

[frosty radish]

has GSC ever said how many people live in the zone roughly?

because the population is downsized for the game, but there can't be that many people right? the zone is described as far more harsh than its portrayed

[worn flicker]

thats why i came here, i couldn't find info anywhere. and yeah i know its differerent but as stashes go as far as I remember they use the same places they did in SoC. At least the ones in the catacombs and the random stashes. It's kind of stupid because it's nowhere near where fox says they should be :)) anyway, thanks a lot

[verbal tartan]

I dont think there was a number, but it seems impossible to find out tbh @frosty radish

[frosty radish]

sad

[frosty radish]

who wins, soldiers trained for years to fight or brainwashed monolithians

[light shuttle]

+-

the logged stalkers on the zone to Trilogy events are like 300 stalkers

id say that really are much more than that but

[late condor]

There are some numbers mentioned in CoP intro but those are before in-game events and also estimates

Anything else is up to the question of how much gameplay coincides with lore

If you keep playing for long enough, you’ll kill thousands of NPCs

[granite raft]

Does anyone have English translations for some of the ecologist voice lines? Namely “BEY, BEY!” and “DERJITE MENYA SEMERA!”

[late condor]

Those are technically newbie stalker voicelines, just reused for ecologists.

[grizzled rock]

patnor has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[late condor]

The ones you listed a generic combat stuff.

The first one would vaguely translate to “HIT [EM/HIM]” twice, where it’s kinda a call to action.

The second literally translates to “SEVEN HOLD ME” which is an idiomatic expression I guess? As in “I’m going in and it would take seven people to hold me back”.

[grizzled rock]

notvrairhead has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gloomy spruce]

Has anyone played the stalker lost alpha mod? If so can someone in DMs summerise the story for me?

[karmic horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrRppfCY3s

[gloomy spruce]

Thank you

[frosty radish]

why did artefacts change so much between SoC and CS/COP? I quite liked the balance between SoC's artefacts, cooler than just "it gives radiation"

[late condor]

Filthy casuals bringing everyone down to their level

Some people were confused apparently

[frosty radish]

how 😭 they give you the raw numbers you need

[graceful horizon]

SoC artifacts were peak

[frosty radish]

lost alpha doesn't actually chage anythin in the story right? it just changes the world to be more in line with original documents

[gloomy spruce]

Doesnt have some cut content?

[frosty radish]

yeah so cut areas are added

[gloomy spruce]

I can see why they cut those areas

[frosty radish]

how so?

I've never played lost alpha full disclosure

[gloomy spruce]

Well lost alpha a lot of people say it’s a. Walking simulator

Which for me I kinda agree

[frosty radish]

its working with the scraps of what gsc left behind, plus it is a free mod and not an actual dev tema

[gloomy spruce]

Yeah there’s no beating a free mod

[frosty radish]

im sure if gsc had left them in it would be developed more, I think it looks pretty cool for being free

[gloomy spruce]

Yeahhh

[verbal tartan]

Im pretty sure its a different story

Or at least, adds a lot of story, based on SoC

[late condor]

Lost Alpha is a fanfic

It is very loosely inspired by earlier soc but nothing more than that

[graceful horizon]

Ending is kinda ass

[verbal tartan]

More like the whole mod xdxdxdxd

[graceful horizon]

Nah there was some fun stuff in there

But not nearly enough to put it above SoC

[charred prism]

Lost Alpha has a new story and locations with new gameplay, it isnt stalker it is their own interpretation of early DesDocs

[frosty radish]

Interesting

[torpid rapids]

Guys uhhh how do i install cal of chernobyl and is it free?

[charred prism]

its standalone, just download it and unpack it

[verbal tartan]

Its in moddb btw, in case you didnt know

[frosty radish]

maybe controversial here, I think Strelok is duty aligned, ||looking at the end of Call of Pripyat, I think in SoC he definitely would have helped out duty||

[verbal tartan]

CoP? What is that? A fever dream you had?

[torpid rapids]

Thx guys

[frosty radish]

do you not like it or something?

[verbal tartan]

A bit, but I like joking and exaggerating

[verbal tartan]

@gloomy spruce at most there will be people suggesting you to use SRP for CS. Although I wouldnt call it ever a bad mod, it also changes quite a lot from the base game, so I wouldnt recommend it for a first playthrough

I have finished CS vanilla like 2-3 times, never encountered game breaking bugs tbh

Maybe a group not moving to a location or smth like that, but its easily workable

Also, no head bob has a command, no need for a mod

You can do cam_inert 0 on console.
You open it with the key thats at the left side of the 1 number key

[primal garnet]

Clear sky is stable if you don't go looking for bugs

[verbal tartan]

Pretty much

I think that joining bandits and freedom before a specific point in time causes a softlock

But I dont remember well.
Just be sure to not rely on quicksave all the time, try to maje a manual save if possible

[primal garnet]

I haven't joined freedom or bandits once

Their rewards are just eh

[gloomy spruce]

or anomlies as i like to call them

[lyric garnet]

i just got the worst jumpscare EVER in my history of playing stalker. i took some documents from jupiter and another degtyarev spawned right in front of me and my screen turned black

i guess it was a model for the short cutscene that played right after but oh my god did i poop my pants

[primal basalt]

(jumpscared by yourself )

[late condor]

You playing EE? It screws up some timers

Events happen earlier / later than in OG game

[lyric garnet]

nah, im playing the OG game

[late condor]

then i've got no idea how that happened

[primal garnet]

Yeah og cop does that often for me lol

[lyric garnet]

it happened only once so far to be fair and i'm 40 hours into the playthrough

i really wish the SEVA suit had second gen night vision like in SoC, the upgraded night vision i have on my military helmet/gas mask is really helpful

[lyric garnet]

man the monolithians i assigned to duty are just getting murder by freedomers outside yanov

why can't they just get a long? poor walrus

[grizzled rock]

dameinu_mookon has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[abstract elm]

Hey guys

[tawdry cargo]

Hi

[abstract elm]

Hiii

[abstract elm]

Hii

[lyric garnet]

what kind of enemies go after you in CoP after you steal the documents about tunnels to pripyat from jupiter? there spawned like 7 enemies but i didn't feel like fighting so i just jumped off the window and ran away. is it the mercenaries that were guarding the scientist bunker? they weren't there when i returned from jupiter?

[torpid rapids]

Guys how do i break in and steal all the stuffs in cordon pls help me

[verbal tartan]

What stuff? What place? CS or SoC? Give more details pls

[torpid rapids]

SoC

I need all loot including the documents and the merc suit

[verbal tartan]

The documents from the military base?
And the merc suit from the last house in rookie village?

https://youtu.be/f90HtDRD6v8?si=wRG8z6oOgWmV19EO
Well actually, this video can tell you everything

[torpid rapids]

Oh thx u man

[cold hare]

U fast traveled with duty leader back to camp or what?

[late condor]

Mercenaries previously guarding the scientist bunker

[late condor]

Use https://stalker-map.online for full loot map

[tender hamlet]

hey i kinda messed around with spawnrates of artifacts in stalkers can someone drop their shadow of chernobyl gamedata\config\misc\death_items_by_communities file

[late condor]

You can just remove the file from gamedata and it will use the original one from packed archives instead

[tender hamlet]

fr? i didn't know that i thought it's built on wet spaghetti code but atleast they take precautions✌️

[tender hamlet]

wait where is the packed archives cuz i mightttttt have touched that also

[tender hamlet]

yea but i'll want to mess around with them later so uhhhhhhhhh i need them

[late condor]

.db files in game directory

[tender hamlet]

yea but

[late condor]

Just re-unpack them? The way you got files originally?

[tender hamlet]

there are many of these files and they're big

[late condor]

You likely haven’t touched them, editing them is a hard process

The game works without a gamedata folder at all, gamedata is just for overwriting the original files from those archives

[tender hamlet]

yea but idk for some reason when i downloaded zrp or whatever that optimizer is called i got gamedata
and its the easiest way to manage stuff in the game

[lyric garnet]

yeah :p

[lyric garnet]

i knew it

[cold hare]

Do u have vid or pic to send in dm?

[lyric garnet]

does the game tell you more if you actually fight them instead of running away? like who hired them?

[cold hare]

U want spoiler?

[lyric garnet]

nah, i'm in pripyat rn and can't go back yet i think and i haven't taken any screenshots when they shot the monolithians

[cold hare]

Was it at place where u recruit them or yanov?

[lyric garnet]

how big of a spoiler is it? i'm in pripyat, is it something i would know if i took the fight instead of escaping through a window without ever meeting the mercs?

[lyric garnet]

outside yanov, and it was like maybe a couple in-game days after i assigned them to duty. like they were dutiers but i recognized their names from when i met them first as monolith

[cold hare]

Not big only about bunker and a sientists

[lyric garnet]

yeah tell

[cold hare]

Its just normal faction wars event

[lyric garnet]

ah ok

[cold hare]

They joined scientist so they can monitor what scientist do and easier sabotage them.... If u want more info and reading go here : https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Black

[lyric garnet]

ooh interesting

thanks

[cold hare]

Down on site is what black pda tells u about scientists u could read that if u killed mercenaries

[cold hare]

Your welcome

If u need any more info or lore ask me in dm or ping me

Or if u need any help about CoP

[late condor]

ZRP is a mod, you applied mod files on top of original game files

you don't need an origianl file then, you need a ZRP file that's already modified

[late condor]

you get a PDA yeah

you don't know who hired them though

[lyric garnet]

thanks appreciate it! might need it lol

[tender hamlet]

im kinda confused i havent been playing soc for like 8 months i know that the gamedata folder either came from zrp or came with the game
anyways ima torture chatgpt to give me python code that'll find all the lines about the artifacts✌️

[lyric garnet]

yeah i just read the pda from the wiki, it's interesting. i love hove CoP gives you loads of cool interesting stuff like this on the side

[cold hare]

Just ask if u need it lol 😁

[late condor]

It doesn’t come with the game, you need to unpack files to get it

You’re also only having specifically the files mod replaced, not all of them.

If you want to mod properly I recommend learning how to unpack the .db files and get all the original files in the gamedata

[fast salmon]

So I'm at the part of my CoP playthrough should I leave the zone or stay

[graceful horizon]

Depends on if you did all sidemissions or have other things you wanna try in freeplay mode

[fast salmon]

Its my 3rd playthrough and Im pretty sure I've done everything other than one side mission in prip coz i missed the timing

it was to do with mercenaries

[graceful horizon]

Anyway, you can leave the zone for the ending at any time when you're in freeplay

[fast salmon]

imma just leave coz i did stuff that i didnt do in my other playthroughs so i wanna find out what the difference is in the end lol

[torpid rapids]

Thx u man

[stuck matrix]

What are the Enhanced Editions like now post 1.3.1? Bought them ages ago, haven't gotten around to replaying given they were in a shaky state

already played modded OG trilogy, just wonder if it's worth playing through the EEs yet

[verbal tartan]

if you want to play a "vanilla enhancement", theres better

EEs have improved a lot, but like, idk. Still blurry because of the AI upscaling, it introduced some new bugs too

[late condor]

They’re still pretty bad. They are still just as censored as they were on release, still have all of the AI upscaling issues, still rocking the (slightly better but still terrible) demastered HUD, and still generally more buggy than the originals.

I’d give it another year tbh.

[marsh crag]

I just finished Enhanced SOC, COP, and almost CS. I’ll never go back to the originals, it feels great, draw distance is much better. Using DLSS in native mode (no scaling) makes it even better, it's basically DLAA antialiasing. At the same time, it’s still the good old STALKER with its unique atmosphere.

I do have one issue with visual artifacts when DLSS or FSR is enabled, which I’ve already reported, but that’s it.

[verbal tartan]

The only good things are draw distance and maybe 2 QoL changes

Rest is the same or worse

[late condor]

^

Alpha tested MSAA is a considerably superior antialiasing method than DLAA and EE just doesn’t have 2008 technology

“Unique atmosphere” is butchered when you have stupid censorship on every corner

And textures just look plain worse, especially the UI.

[frosty radish]

arguiably worse

[languid owl]

Can anyone help me with BUG TRAP problem?

[frosty radish]

whats that?

[verbal tartan]

The app it shows when theres a crash?

You can post the crash log, we can maybe help

[languid owl]

I cant send anything here

[languid owl]

exactly, in main role

[verbal tartan]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[languid owl]

make sense.

i need a minute

[languid owl]

i do it

[midnight marsh]

Hey, someone's knows where I can find the file for relationships? I want to put neutral with a faction, I can't do it in a normal way so, if someone knows and can help I would really appreciate it

[rough harness]

What is the number of mods available on the ingame mod browser

Is it a large selection or no

[late condor]

gamedata/config(s)/creatures/game_relations.ltx

Assuming you already know how unpack gamedata

[midnight marsh]

Thank you bro

[torpid rapids]

Guys why do i after complete some task for Sirdorovich in SoC he doesnt sell me the Thunder

[verbal tartan]

Make a save, reload it, check if he has it, reload if he doesn't, continue the loop untio it appears

[torpid rapids]

He only sell some amour and bad guns wth

[verbal tartan]

Keep reloading the save until he has it

He isn't an armed trader, but that weapon appears randomly after you reload a save a couple of times

[graceful horizon]

Sid only sells Tunder 10% of the time(inventory can be reset by savescumming), but only before you get Wolf's reward for saving nimble. After that you can't buy Tunder from him anymore at all and you'll have to loot it from Barin if you want it

[verbal tartan]

💀

Didnt know that, sorry

[torpid rapids]

Bruh

[warped mountain]

Hey
so playing STALKER for the first time ever, idk why i waited so long, but playing SoC with Complete 2009 mod, when I ADS all weapons have Night Vision scopes/sights, is that a bug...? kinda annoying

oh i figured it out, part of the compelte mod, tab key

[frosty radish]

”stalker for the first time!”
look inside
its modded
Mfw

[warped mountain]

Yeah, in case you forgot the game is more than 10 years old, it was unplayable without the mod, and i dont talk about graphics and shit, idc about that

[frosty radish]

I play stalker Soc with no mods and it’s just fine, I think you just have a skill issue tbh

[verbal tartan]

it wasn't unplayable without the mod, but ok

[charred prism]

its very playable to me

[verbal tartan]

you do you of course, just don't say it's unplayable, it's more like you can't handle it or don't even care to

[frosty radish]

He’s just coping and sneeding rn, don’t worry about it. He can’t handle a game not having every modern conviencnce

[verbal tartan]

whcih is fine, many don't

[warped mountain]

Nice brain dead comments right away for no reason

[verbal tartan]

I wouldn't beat them like that tho

[warped mountain]

Look idk what to tell you my Laptop is dog shit and I couldn’t play

[charred prism]

it wouldnt be the first time tbh

[verbal tartan]

I prefer if they play unmodded, but I prefer to not shit on them

[verbal tartan]

What?
Complete makes it run worse

I had a 2006 laptop and I was able to run it

[warped mountain]

Kept crashing and freezing

[charred prism]

Complete ruins the balancing of the game while making it run worse 🤷‍♂️

[verbal tartan]

oh, you had bugs and crashes.
Well, you could've used ZRP, probably was a solution

it isn't perfect, but it's mostly vanilla, while complete isnt

[charred prism]

Gordon what is worse
newcomer playing
1.radiophobia3
2.complete 2009 update 2025

[frosty radish]

Your laptop was most likely released after 2007, it can do it

[verbal tartan]

radiophobia 100%

Complete at least has decent stuff and actually made improvements

[warped mountain]

As I said I really am new, I just saw the first Reddit post talking about this mod and downloaded it

[frosty radish]

Modern games just handhold us too much

[verbal tartan]

it's ok, don't worry
I do recommend ZRP tho, instead of complete, as ZRP is mostly bug fixing

[verbal tartan]

it was like this ever since games came out btw, it isnt new

[frosty radish]

Yeah but you look at 2007 compared to 2025

[verbal tartan]

still

[frosty radish]

At least stalker doesn’t have a tutorial telling you which button to press to move forward

[verbal tartan]

it's just more apparent this days because of more people playing games, but it's the same sentiment

[verbal tartan]

no, but it has a textbox tutorial that comes right when you leave the bunker, and has the encyclopedia to explain you everything you need to know

there is hand holding, a lot I would even say, just not "press W to move"

but I'm sure it wasn't made with that demographic in mind

[frosty radish]

The encyclopaedia is cool though and makes sense lore wise. I wish it stayed for CS and CoP tbh

[warped mountain]

Can I uninstall complete and download ZRP without a new save?

[late condor]

no

virtually all stalker mods require a new save, all their data is deeply ingrained within yourr save files

[late condor]

it was unplayable without the mod
lmao what, it's absolutely playable

not just "playable" but pretty stable and enjoyable

[warped mountain]

I’m not gonna explain sigh

[warped mountain]

Awe, well I didn’t get too far so I might as well

[late condor]

are you parroting something you heard online or what

never tried to play the game
claims its unplayable
classic!

[grizzled rock]

callsignmikeactual has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

callsignmikeactual has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

callsignmikeactual has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[late condor]

that's ok you'll get there

[rough harness]

Lol

[warped mountain]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so sensitive

[frosty radish]

“I don’t like that the game doesn’t have features X Y and Z it’s totally unplayable!!!”

[late condor]

to know that it is missing features you'd have to play through it

[warped mountain]

For the 300th time
Game crashed many times
Google
First Reddit post > COMPLETE GOOD DOWNLOAD!
Ok
Downloading
Game first time ever
That’s it

If ZRP is better for first timers or at all good I will make a new save and download it

[warped mountain]

wtf you want? Are you like eager to be an a hole?

[late condor]

did it crash on startup? or in specific places?

[frosty radish]

Delete it and reinstall it, maybe pray it runs better? Are you using steam?

[warped mountain]

Randomly throughout the gameplay, pretty frequently

[late condor]

what was in the crash logs?

[frosty radish]

Maybe it’s not the game but your computer

[warped mountain]

Uh, where is it

[late condor]

it might be save corruption but in this case just starting a new game would fix it

[warped mountain]

NO SHIT! It’s almost like I said it MULTIPLE TIMES

[frosty radish]

So don’t blame the game?

[warped mountain]

Jesus Christ

[frosty radish]

Do you have task manager?

[late condor]

Sorry for crashing out, complete is just a really poor mod for going through the game.

[warped mountain]

🤯

[frosty radish]

It’s a valid question, my computer doesn’t have it

[warped mountain]

All good, yeah figured it now after checking ZRP out

[frosty radish]

Just depends what os you decide to go with really

[late condor]

ZRP still isn't "vanilla but with bugfixes" but a marginally better choice than complete

[warped mountain]

Does ZRP also fix the uhm what is it called like the UI not fitting the whole screen?

[torpid rapids]

I'd say SoC graphic is decent for me

[warped mountain]

I love the graphics, it’s not my issue at all, I love the old school look

[verbal tartan]

He called it unplayable because he was getting crash after crash, thats it

[verbal tartan]

It should, yeah

[torpid rapids]

Bruh

[warped mountain]

I grew up playing games that looked like bricks, kinda makes me wanna play Brothers In Arms again, idk why it reminded me that

Anyways where do I download ZRP from? modDB?

[verbal tartan]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/starter-pack/downloads/zone-reclamation-project-107-r5rc
Yes

https://www.metacognix.com/files/stlkrsoc/index.html#ZRPNotes
heres the official page too. I think both have the same file, even tho the moddb one is listed as archived for some, but I think it's the same

[warped mountain]

Thank you, also will ZRP make the AI stop lotting literally every piece of shit? Maybe Complete is trash

[verbal tartan]

it's the one called 1.07 R5 RC btw

[verbal tartan]

you mean looting corpses?

[warped mountain]

Yeah they just take everything like I killed couple bandits with like 6 guns on him

[verbal tartan]

if yes, I don't think SoC has that included, iirc it's only in CoP, but it's been a long time to say with certainty

but yes, 99% sure it's a feature added in Complete

[warped mountain]

Yeah then it’s probably compete also after 20 min of gameplay the game spawned a big mf bear and the bear climbed to my tower and starting hitting me while on the ladder lol
I just figured it’s the game and not that ass mod

[verbal tartan]

oh, btw, for you to have a close to vanilla experience, do this:
After installing the mod, go to the gamedata folder, open the modifier.exe and change all the values you can to "default" and save if there is a save button

[warped mountain]

He was the size of a 3 story building

[verbal tartan]

just to not introduce some silly stuff

[warped mountain]

What values does it change? Or like what does it affect?

[verbal tartan]

there are boars in the trilogy, but if you climb a 5 feet rock they can't hit you basically

[verbal tartan]

Give me 5 minutes so I can recap them all

[warped mountain]

I wouldn’t call it a Boar, it was enormous, he literally climbed a ladder lol…

[verbal tartan]

then yeah, don't worry, vanilla doesn't have it

[verbal tartan]

Gives you a sleeping bag (not useful tbh, unless you hate the night, which isn't that dark), makes corspes disappear faster, increases carry weight (I think?, theres a value for it at least. it's stupid cause the game was designed for that), makes the enemy NPC hit probability higher, makes guns more accurate, makes you less hungry (you barely are hungry anyways, but food is plenty in the zone, so idk why making it easier), lowers radiation damage (?), stalkers can hold multiple weapons, makes side quests take longer to fail (side missions have time limit)

There are a couple of changes more that it does, and you can't disable them through the modifier.

[late condor]

is "default" vanilla values or default zrp values?

[verbal tartan]

you know, now that you mention it

that is a very good question

Im guessing they weren't that stupid to put default as "default zrp values"

[warped mountain]

I think the sleeping bag is actually useful, complete as it as well and I use it to switch to night if I want to stealth

[verbal tartan]

To be honest with you, stealth sucks in stalker, you'll have a hard time

Check if you have it marked tho, cause I think it came unmarked to me

[warped mountain]

Well, I can see why you say that, I was crouch walking at night and didn't even see the bandit and he literally walked 1 inch away from me

[verbal tartan]

If you want you can always try it of course

[warped mountain]

wait i forgot how to uninstall Complete, do I need to reinstall lol..?

[verbal tartan]

Idk the files of complete, but it if was only a gamedata folder and you had to drag and drop, just delete thag folder, verify hame files through steam properties and then install zrp

If it wasnt just a gamedata folder, better be safe than sorry

[warped mountain]

Gotcha

[verbal tartan]

Delete everything manually and then verify game files

[warped mountain]

While I do that, what is the next stalker I am playing after SOC?
And do I need to do 100% completition to say "I finished the game"?
ngl i was having hard time understanidng where tf I am lol, kinda felt like the game just threw me into it and I need to figure it out myself

Kinda like Tarkov, but instead of figuring out the keybind I am trying to figure out the storyline and what is the main questline and what is a side quest

[verbal tartan]

Well, yeah, you kinda need to figure some stuff for yourself. Just be attentive, read the pda a lot (can help), and be cautious.

The next game should be Clear Sky, after that Call of Pripyat

And no, you dont need 100% completition to say that you've finished it

Although there is one thing to say about the endings, so if you want me to spoil you a little bit about it to help you, tell me

[verbal tartan]

Just read the pds for that, yeah

[warped mountain]

No no, not yet at least haha

[verbal tartan]

Also, check the controls keybinds, there is one that says "quick medikit / quick bandage", will help you a lot, instead of opening the inventory every time for healing/bleeding control

[verbal tartan]

Got it

[warped mountain]

Ah yeah I figured it out only after like couple hours haha, we had weird keybinds back in the day (quck bandage and Medkit is [ ] )

[verbal tartan]

I change the bandage to Z and Medikit to Alt

Last one is a bit annoying if you want to Alt-tab, but you can always pause the game first

[warped mountain]

Yeah I changed them to the buttons on my mouse, feels more accessible for faster usage, well, for myself

[verbal tartan]

Oh, and dont play on master

[torpid rapids]

I was watching a STALKER SoC vid and i saw the guy got a PSG-7 Army Vest
Which mod add that into the game?

[verbal tartan]

Many will tell you its better, its not

[warped mountain]

Oh yeah, I didn't even think about it for the first gameplay haha

[late condor]

its there in vanilla kinda

in the boxes on the top of cordon military outpost barracks

[warped mountain]

Do I copy paste the txt files as well? (GeneratePatchR5EE_to_R5RC)

for ZRP

[late condor]

skip those

[warped mountain]

What file do I edit again? I can't find the message

[warped mountain]

oh found it, I didn't even know the modifier is a thing ☹️

[late condor]

And do I need to do 100% completition to say "I finished the game"?
100% completion is kinda a very far reaching goal. Not many people would even agree what counts as 100%. There is minor content which you basically can only get under very specific circumstances.

[warped mountain]

Understandable

i am doing the modifier thingy now, what does automatic ammo boxing does?

[verbal tartan]

It only works after installing it over soc, remember that

[late condor]

just leave everything at whatever vanilla values are

no need to customize it when you have no idea what you're changing

[verbal tartan]

I dont even know what automatic ammo boxes means yeah

[warped mountain]

yeah.. makes sense, alrighty

[late condor]

Its like if you have two 15x boxes of 5.45 the scripts will swap it for a full 30x. Either for convenience or for preventing trader abuse.

[warped mountain]

vanilla flashlight or ZRP beam flashlight?

says it beams further but might not be as strong

I didn't try the flashlight at all

[verbal tartan]

Basically this ^^^

[warped mountain]

Ook ok

[verbal tartan]

The vanilla flashlight its ok. Goes well with the horror element of the game and lets you see enough

The only reason of why would I want a bigger flashlight is because I've already played every game in the trilogy like 2/3 times vanilla, and Im playing a mod that already changes a lot of things. I personally never had problems with the vanilla one

[warped mountain]

the zombified stalker, there is an option that it marks them as enemies on the map (red and grey) if i dont select it, how do they appear by default? any clue?

[verbal tartan]

Oh, yeah, the minimap helps a lot with identifying enemies and corpses for you to loot. I think that vanilla doesnt have that for zombified stalkers, idk the reason really

That depends on you I guess. They arent that big of a threat anyway

[warped mountain]

good to know

ok done, let's roll

[verbal tartan]

The minimap also shows how many npcs, allied and enemies, are close to you, so keep that in mind too

[warped mountain]

Yeah I noitced that before the I installed complete, wouldn't you say that's kinda OP?

[verbal tartan]

Eh, maybe

But the game is a bit rough at times, in terms of difficulty, so I guess its used as a way to help

[warped mountain]

Also, how come no subtitles option? haha

[verbal tartan]

If you dont like it, just dont pay attention to the minimap and thats it

[verbal tartan]

Oh, its not there? Im pretty sure it was
Weird

[warped mountain]

Non existent sadly, could be useful sometimes

[verbal tartan]

Mmmmm, give me a sec

Maybe check more options in other settings, maybe in game

But Im pretty sure it can be included

[warped mountain]

Uhmm I will check
Also checking the modifier again, can you not joing the Duty by default? (did it right at the start with the Complete mod enabled)

[verbal tartan]

That I can't say, havent really looked into it much, nor cared about it.
Maybe wait for surdno or someone else to explain

I think it was going to be intended but ended up being an unfinished mechanic that didnt work super well / wasnt very well integrated.
But, idk

You can definitively do specific missions that let you have worse relations with the counter faction

[warped mountain]

Checked for subtitles, reddit says I need a mod for that

"In Game CC and Subtitles 1.00"

[verbal tartan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/bf55c3/using_ingame_closed_caption_mod_with_zrp_107_r5_rc/

Check this, in the comments theres NatVac himself giving instruction

Theres even a mediafire file that has both included in 1, but that goes at your own risk

[warped mountain]

ah F it, no subtitles, I just wanna start playing at this point haha

[verbal tartan]

Awesome

[warped mountain]

oh wtf? there are subtitles, when I played with complete there was no subtitles, ZRP is already winning this

Not sure if the UI fits 100% tho, where can I send a picture

[verbal tartan]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[warped mountain]

How the hell do I take a SC lmao, windows shortcut doesnt work nor is the Print Screen

[verbal tartan]

F12

Then go to the appdata folder, screenshots folder

The engine doesnt allow some features, yeah

You cant even lower the volument of the game without going to desktop first

[late condor]

It’s because it directly takes your input without it being passed to windows at all

[verbal tartan]

Ah, got it. A bit weird but nothing too bad

[warped mountain]

Yeah its kinda annoying, ok I disabled the full screen and a tiny bit of the UI is off the screen, but nothing crazy so its fine

nooooooooooooooooo, game crashed

triede to leave the trader just at the start and it crashed

Now what

[late condor]

Haha lmao what

[verbal tartan]

Dude wtf lmao, you cursed

[late condor]

Post the crash log, it’s going to be in appdata/logs

[verbal tartan]

Has to be right after the crash btw, wont show if you open the game again

[warped mountain]

Maybe its that icc subtitles whatever, tried to install it, one sec

yeah its that trash, deletd it, now it works

[verbal tartan]

Enjoy your journey

It will be unique, thats for sure

[warped mountain]

ngl my friend said it will only be more difficult at some point lol
Said he didn’t want to sugarcoat it

[verbal tartan]

A little bit of this, a little bit of that...

[karmic horizon]

These are the Bandits that robbed me at the Flea Market.

[verbal tartan]

Kill them

[sullen minnow]

I'd kill them even with no theft involved

for the love of the game

[fast salmon]

hahaahahha u let those slime bags rob you really

[tranquil grove]

new to clear sky. played once last year 30hrs in got soft locked with lebedev crossing the brigdge never played it swore i wouldnt eve again..im trying 1 more time with EE and i hear its still in the game. I emailed GSC about it they said they will foward to the devs idk if that will even happen....i have a question though...in clear sky it feels like some of these areas where you clear the red dots they just come back as soon as u walk away...like alot of the military check points is that suposed to be like that?

[verbal tartan]

Yes, that is supposed to happen, so as you don't massacre the entire zone and leave it unhabitant. Would be very anti-lore too, considering that SoC's zone is populated

And that problem you mentioned can stil be in the game, but its not super common I guess?

At least I never had it in my times playing vanilla

Even reloading previous saves gave you the softlock?

[tranquil grove]

yep

at the time i didnt do multiple saves. just one manual, one auto and once quick lol aand my dumb ass saved manual and quick once the fight was over and the auto saved too so iwas f'd

NOW i have over 100 saves lol

Why do some of the Guides take you all over the place and some only take you to a couple around the area? Like Clear Sky base the guide only takes u to swamp. and then on the PDA it doesnt even show you the little blue circle with the arrow with the name of the guide til u get to it

for example i got to one of the guides and it has like 8 names of different guides but i dont know which one is wich cause it doesnt tell u on the map so i spend almost all my money hopping from guide to guide just to get to whwere i i wana go

[verbal tartan]

yeah you definitively need to do manual saves hehe

[verbal tartan]

cause "it is what it is" I guess

if you don't want to spend all your money, you'll have to go by foot. At first, I recommend you to gather money for better equipment, then it's easy to get money and use it all on guides

[tranquil grove]

i just started using a trainer gavemyself unlimted money, stamina etc...

i do notice you run ALOT slower in clear sky compared to SoC...i had found a Endurance 200% artifact early on in my SoC playthrough so i got so used to it now in Clear Sky without it its terrible

[verbal tartan]

[tranquil grove]

is there any mods, cheats or console commands that you can speed up your sprint speed?

its really testing my patience lmao

[verbal tartan]

Maybe your just need to be patient and thats it

Being for real, yeah, Im sure there is a way, you should google it

[granite jungle]

Strelok has superhuman racecar sprint speed

There's definitely a way to alter move speed. I think in actor.ltx or something

I used it to make lost alpha remotely playable

[warped mountain]

I am having so much more fun with ZRP than Complete but I had the dumbest moment now so far

I am in the X16 and my guy passed out, cut scene while a zombiefied with a shotgun infront of me

cutscene over > blasted in the face

[grizzled rock]

callsignmikeactual has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[warped mountain]

I am out of meds and ammo and I am get F'd in the ass

And the game just crashed my PC lol

Is the ghost suit any good?

[verbal tartan]

Its good, yeah

Theres better, but it will get you through a lot

[graceful horizon]

You can also give it to sakharov as a mission item

Gives you a top tier suit in return

[verbal tartan]

Oh, yeah, forgot about that

The green scientifit suit, its peak

[karmic horizon]

They got 0 rubles from me.

[frosty radish]

If the zone was real, how many of you would go?

[warped mountain]

I am doing the bunker mission now metting the monolith for the first time, i am at the part that I am getting out of the bunker and HOW MANY ARE THEY

LIKE, the number dont go down it goes 8-12-8-12-8-12 I killed like 20 by now

[warped mountain]

Part of a group with good gear? 100% lol

[frosty radish]

lets say you just started out as a rookie loner

[warped mountain]

No gear?

[frosty radish]

yeah, you'll have to start out like anyone else

[warped mountain]

if its in the old school era, I think I would, if its in the modern era where there is a possibility for almost anyone having a thermal or a drone in the zone lol maybe not

I would be more caution about the humans rather than the creatures and anomalies

[frosty radish]

I'd fear the opposite way around, most men are predicable, but mutants and anomalies can't be predicted as much

they shift around as well, what was once a safe route you've walked a hundred times you've now suddenly walked into a whirligig and you're dead

[warped mountain]

at first, the mutants cant be predicted at first till you get a pttern

[frosty radish]

animals are irrational by design, there is always an element of the unknown

Also, I would like to apologise for being rude to you yesterday, I am sorry

[tranquil grove]

how do you assign stuff to the F1-F4 quick slots in Clear Sky? Ive tried clicking on the item and pressing F1. Ive tried dragging the item onto the F1 slot. nothing

nvm i got it didnt realize u could only use med packs and not granades

[warped mountain]

I appreciate it, I forgive you

[warped mountain]

Dude wtf is this mission

[grizzled rock]

callsignmikeactual has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[warped mountain]

That power plant mission with the Heli chasing you is so crazy painful

[tranquil grove]

Playing Clear Sky for the 2nd time, I finally made it to Lymansk and this is the best part of the whole game IMO (so far) || the entire ambush/seige is some of the best scripted events i have encountered so far in SoC and CS||

last year, the 1st time i played CS i got softlocked at the bridge to lymanske. once we crossed, ||Ledbadev didnt thank the stalkers or give his "victory speech" he just stood there||. I didnt save scum back then i just kept 1 manual save, 1 auto save. So i was F'd! I was nervous to play CS-EE because i did research before playhing and saw someone else reported the same softlock for EE. So i just said f it but this time I have like 100 saves lmao. SO HAPPY! Ill finally be able to beat this game.

[torpid rapids]

Guys where do i find Lukash and general Voromin in SoC

[verbal tartan]

Lukash is on the freedom base, at theain building, he is the leader

Voronin is the leader of duty at Rostok, you need to do the x16 lab quest, then talk to barkeep and then the duties protecting his base will let you in to see him

[torpid rapids]

Ohhhh

[tranquil grove]

Heads up to anyone playing the Enhanced Edition Trilogy on PC make sure you DISABLE Anti Aliasing and set the upscale type to FSR (if using AMD) , Upcale mode: Native, Turn FSR Sharpening on and max it all the way out...its a night and day difference compared to FXAA!!! I wish i knew this 3 days ago when I started SoC!!!

Idk if the AA is just broken or what 🤷🏻‍♂️

That said...🎉 🥳 I FINALLY BEAT THE TRILOGY!!!! 🎉 🥳

After a nightmare last year playing the original and getting softlocked at the end of Clear Sky. Enhanced Edition was no problems at all not one crash. not one bug. nothing...I even was using a trainer with unlimied ammo, health, stamina etc...no issues!

[pale nebula]

What softlock are you referring to?

[late condor]

LotZ/EE blocks player from going to Limansk until Lebedev finishes his conversation with Leshiy and tells you to advance further. Sometimes that dialogue refuses to activate resulting in the game being softlocked, a bug that did not exist in OG

[verbal tartan]

💀 💀 💀

[hallow thunder]

EE sux

[tranquil grove]

Ledbedev not thanking the stalkers for helping once you cross the bridge to enter Lamanske

[warped mountain]

wait wtf? did I just finish the game

are there multiple endings?

[warped mountain]

I think I got the shit ending, I thought the game would be longer

[verbal tartan]

Yes

[verbal tartan]

What ending did you get? What happened in it?

[warped mountain]

The wisher, my guy wanted to be rich, as I was watching this I was like, wtf is this shit lol

I should have done more side quests, is that the "bad" ending?

[frosty radish]

Yep

[frosty radish]

Ok so regardless of what you do, if you enter the CNPP with more than 40,000 roubles it overrides any other conditions and gives you the I want to be rich ending

There are seven endings, two are “true”, the other five are false. That’s all I will say

[verbal tartan]

Oh no...

[warped mountain]

Seven endings 😮
Well let me try to go in without 40k lol

[verbal tartan]

Just one question: there is a quest for you called "talk with guide".
Did you do that?

[warped mountain]

Uhm I will check one sec

[frosty radish]

That’s the ending I got as well (before I want back to do it again 😉)

[warped mountain]

Doesn't look like I did this quest, what is it and who gives it?

[verbal tartan]

True ending

Wont spoil more. Just do that quest

Load an old save btw, no need to go back from cnpp to cordon

[late condor]

And it’s impossible too

[warped mountain]

Who gives that quest? I don't think i've seen it

[late condor]

CNPP is the point of no return

[late condor]

It is automatically given when you search Ghost’s body but only if you did not skip Strelok stash flash drive before in Agroprom underground

[warped mountain]

I did the strelok stash flash drive and searched ghost's body

maybe I missed something

[verbal tartan]

When I told you to always look at the PDA, this was exactly what I was refering to

Because I didnt look at the pda either my first playthrough, after x16 I mean

[verbal tartan]

That too yeah

[warped mountain]

[verbal tartan]

Unless they turned on the new ZRP level transitions

But still, dont do it, its a long boring way back

[verbal tartan]

Happens. I got the ||"make the zone disappear" wish|| and thought I solved everything

Until a friend told me how silly I was

[warped mountain]

lol

Ok so I changed paths, I went to do the monolith secret instead, does it mean no ending yet?

[verbal tartan]

You mean the quest guide gives? I dont remember the name, I hope its that one

[warped mountain]

talking to a holograhm rightnow

[verbal tartan]

💀

You went that fast?

[warped mountain]

No I died like 20 times lol
Started doing that path after I sent the message about the ending, I felt like after my experience no way that’s the shit end lol

Why tf there are so many monolith

[verbal tartan]

Because they are defending

[warped mountain]

Yeah but that’s like 25 of them I died overall in this whole mission at least a hundred times lol

[verbal tartan]

Welcome to the ending, its a bit harsh

[warped mountain]

Do you join the C-Consciousness project? lol

[verbal tartan]

I didnt

[warped mountain]

oh ok well now im confsued so I said no and now thats it? it failed the wisher task so what now lol...

I dont have any tasks, still in this underground

[verbal tartan]

Keep going

You have to leave the underground, to the CNPP. Theres an exit close to it, I think its right in front of you

Good luck on this next part, enjoy the view

[warped mountain]

oh shit I just found an exoskeleton suit letsgooo

oh can you not run with the exoskeleton suit?

[verbal tartan]

Nope

[warped mountain]

awe

[verbal tartan]

But you are tanky as hell, and can carry a lot of weight

I think that you can only run in exosqueletons in CoP, and only if you upgrade the suit for it to have that feature

I remember it being in CS but not working, or maybe it was doing something else and I misinterpreted what the upgrade said

[frosty radish]

You can skip that? I thought it was mandatory

[late condor]

you can pretty much talk to sid and go straight to the institute to get the documents

skip fox, seriy, mole, the entire agroprom underground, and go to barkeep with those docs

but the more common thing i've seen is people either just missing the stash or entering it and not taking the flash drive

and thne when you get to ghost you dont get the guide task because i assume you dont know who that ghost is so you have no incentive to follow up with his meeting

[frosty radish]

I guess you would only know that on the second playthrough

Without glitches barkeep is kept gated away until the you’ve obtained the documents right?

[warped mountain]

Am I supitd? how do you get out of here lmao

do I need to load or is there an exit

[verbal tartan]

Where are you exactly? Could you post a screenshot on #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[tranquil grove]

Just beat CoP for the 1st time and what an AWESOME ending!!! that was the best ending out of all 3 I think! Im so happy I beat all 3 games in 4 days. I couldnt stop playing CS and CoP I straight up no lifed both of them in one sitting

now its ONTO STALKER2!!!

[charred prism]

no SOC mention

[warped mountain]

My laptop won't cooperate I am back at the stairway?

[charred prism]

troll cant troll

https://tenor.com/view/its-grim-its-peak-its-mid-old-man-it's-sunday-gif-8453053925671532900

[verbal tartan]

So, right after you talk to the hologram, go upstairs

[tranquil grove]

https://tenor.com/view/nwo-scotthall-typing-razor-ramon-gif-13901008

[warped mountain]

you can't, its like broken stairway

[warped mountain]

EMBED FAIL POINT AND LAUGH

[verbal tartan]

Ok give me 2 seconds

[warped mountain]

I think I need to load an old save ;-;

[verbal tartan]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx55mMuatL-jwuEvvUTJcc8DoCow55KEPx?si=C8LRKay4VR5u3osU

I thought you got spawned right at the right stairs, seems like you dont sorry

[warped mountain]

Oh yeah then I am stupid, I went to the other way lmao

[verbal tartan]

Yeah my b too, its been months since I've done a soc playthrough

[warped mountain]

ah finally out of here god damn

bahahaha im dying laughing, im on the bridge now, they bunched up 3 guys and the rpg guy killed himself including them

[verbal tartan]

[warped mountain]

"MaRkEd OnEeEeE wHaT tHe HeLlLlLlLlL"

[late condor]

Yes but you can get the docs straight after vehicle station quest

[verbal tartan]

https://youtu.be/USsL6RSGHUs?si=ULz9zzS_6I2p4dpr

[warped mountain]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA THAT IS AMAZING

Imagine if it was strelok and then game is over

This is my favorite video of all time now thats it

What actually happens if you nade him like that hahaha

heeeeeeeeeeey

I think i got the good ending now

The zone is open, what ever that means, and I gotta say for that time period when the game came out, the scenes, animation wise and all that are very good

[late condor]

The zone is open is ZRP thingy

Not a part of the actual game, it’s the addition of the mod

[warped mountain]

Oh, boooo

[late condor]

The actual game ends when you see the final cutscene, then its credits and main menu.

[warped mountain]

Oh ok, well GG I enjoyed it a lot, seriously that was so fun that there was one day I sat almost all day long playing it lmao

[terse plaza]

@late condor no, no game pad, on mnk, but honestly I havent had issues with EE, all 3 games to 100%, not one bug

[warped mountain]

Well now what? what is my next game

[terse plaza]

Stalker 2

[warped mountain]

[verbal tartan]

Clear Sky

[terse plaza]

Have you played the others in trilogy?

[warped mountain]

nope, first time playing STALKER, just finished SOC

[verbal tartan]

Then yeah, clear sky

[terse plaza]

Hell yeah, welcome to the zone, and as gordon says, clear sky

[warped mountain]

hell yeah

It was fun, ngl fighting the monolith was a bit cancer lol

[terse plaza]

I just recently did 100% on all 3 EE stalker games, honestly clear sky was probably the best for me

[warped mountain]

Awesome, good to know

[terse plaza]

Just you wait, you haven't seen nothing yet

[warped mountain]

I might do some more side quests since the ZRP lets me continue, but gonna start downloading Clear Sky

[terse plaza]

I would say go for 100%

Shadow of Chorenobyl is quite something

[verbal tartan]

They are playing the original game, so no achievements

[terse plaza]

Ahhh I see, thats a shame, but still an experience

[warped mountain]

I wish there was more Arena fights, that was fun

some pvp break off quests haha

[verbal tartan]

Btw skif, you are making manual saves right?

[warped mountain]

Both manual and auto save, why?

[terse plaza]

Arena was definitely one of the most fun stuff to do

[verbal tartan]

Cause you should continue that tradition for CS

[warped mountain]

Oh shit, then hell yeah

[pale nebula]

He said he had that problem in the original, not the Enhanced Edition version. Anyway, doesn't loading a previous save before that mission fix that?

[terse plaza]

@warped mountain for clear sky, one tip, if you accepting ANY quest, make sure you save the game before it

[verbal tartan]

Seems like it didnt for him

[warped mountain]

Oh, why is that?

Also any bug fixing mod needed? or pure vanilla?

[terse plaza]

Because in stalker, every npc can pretty much die

[verbal tartan]

CS is the buggiest of them all 3.
Its not unplayable at all, but you can get some unfortunate stiff

[terse plaza]

Unless they are skidorivich

[warped mountain]

awe

[warped mountain]

Oh right

[verbal tartan]

There is SRP, but its worse than ZRP in terms of changing stuff for no reason

[warped mountain]

idk if any of you played Tarkov, but I swear Skidorivich is Prapor

[terse plaza]

I mean it man, because of the A life in CS, it can go south real damn fast

[verbal tartan]

Adding/removing stuff, balance changes, etc

[warped mountain]

Noted

[verbal tartan]

I would only use it if you are getting a bug/crash thats truly ass and unskipable/unfixable by loading previous saves

[terse plaza]

But it is fun, you will absolutely enjoy it, also duty forever in that game, if you choose freedom I will shun you

[warped mountain]

check #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

High polygon skidirovich

[verbal tartan]

Its sidorovich btw

[warped mountain]

oh whoops lmao

[verbal tartan]

No worries heheh

[warped mountain]

Skibidiorovich

I am so sorry

[terse plaza]

Thanks, spelling of these aren't friendly unless its strelok

[graceful horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/mad200-heavy-tf2-percentage-rage-gif-16820921

[frosty radish]

You can’t install SRP halfway through

You have to completely restart clear sky

[verbal tartan]

You are right

[late condor]

I would honestly say the other way around

[verbal tartan]

Wait really?

[late condor]

Like ZRP just changes medkit icon for no reason lmao

Or adds custom stash texts cause author thought original ones are boring

[verbal tartan]

😭

[late condor]

Including some stuff that changes lore

SRP has bad changes such as bringing back a cut ammo type but like generally it’s aight

[verbal tartan]

No wonder you were much against zrp

[late condor]

I’ve had some discussions with its author about validity of the changes

Very knowledgeable dude but really stuck on some changes

[verbal tartan]

And you even contributed to srp, right?

[verbal tartan]

Well, something is something ig. At least he made a lot of changes right, that I cant deny

[late condor]

A few bits and pieces yeah

Would probably be able to add considerably more now but not really in the mood to contribute

EE 1.3 did include some fixes that SRP does not have

[verbal tartan]

[warped mountain]

you remember the meeting with the Dr. at Sterlok's hiding place? i cant figure out what his hiding place is? im on the mark

[verbal tartan]

Uh, you dont know the streloks hiding place?

[terse plaza]

Its in the walls

[verbal tartan]

How did you get there to begin with, you needed to do that before, twice

[warped mountain]

Walking? is it underground?

[verbal tartan]

Yeah, on the wall

[terse plaza]

Yes, same place

[verbal tartan]

Same place as it was the first time

[warped mountain]

oh, I thought its above ground the marker shows its not undeground

[verbal tartan]

Oh, the marker can be tricky to understand, but I think I got it.
If you think it points to a higher area, its below. And viceversa

[terse plaza]

They do that, to jump in the pipe stalker

[warped mountain]

lol fair enough

[verbal tartan]

As a marker it is a bit confusing ngl

I just got used to it after all my playthroughs, including mods

[warped mountain]

What the fk? the Doctor rigged the pipe? lmao ahole

[terse plaza]

He's an alright dude

[graceful horizon]

He just likes saying hello the spicy way

[warped mountain]

Hahaha

Who is trading the ghost suit for some good end game suit?

[graceful horizon]

Sakharov

One of his missions is to get the ghost suit

[granite jungle]

It's a very good trade imo

I'm usually wearing that bad boy into the cnpp

[graceful horizon]

Yeah the SSP-99M F-ing carries

Such a pity it never makes a return

[verbal tartan]

[graceful horizon]

That's it, I'm gonna draw a very based Kruglov sticker for in suggestions, wanted to do that anyway

[graceful horizon]

alright lads, version 1.0. anything I should change?

[verbal tartan]

I dont have anything tonsay, its perfect

[ripe spire]

Anyone played SoC?

[verbal tartan]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

Maaaaaaaaaaaybe

[lime vale]

Hello! just wondering if anyone knows how i can play and install mods like memories of the zone or ZRP to SOC? they wont let me play the orginal anymore on steam since the enchanced editons came out and the mods dont work for them

[verbal tartan]

The enhanced editions come with the originals

You can play them, they are in your steam library. You cant use those mods on the enhanced edition

[lime vale]

thats so wierd everytime i try and open it, it loads for a minute then closes

[verbal tartan]

Post the crash log ig

[lime vale]

nvm i just did a fresh instal and now its working

[verbal tartan]

[lime vale]

weird.. anyways thanks!!

too bad theres no achievments for the orginal

[late condor]

tbh the achievements for the lotz/ee are kinda meh

you can get all achievements without seeing half the game's content, hardly a 100% playthrough

and all the cringe memes in there urgh

its clear that the game and the achievements were done by two completely different generations

i despise gen z humor in my millenial game series

[verbal tartan]

the future is now, old man

[late condor]

its like if they remaster it in another 15 years and make an achievemnt for some tiktok gen alpha brainrot

[verbal tartan]

deal with it

problem with AI? HA! Boomer...............

can't appreciate new art........

[lime vale]

oh no... what are some of the cringe memes?

[late condor]

soc starts with "you're finally awake" skyrim reference

the achievement for finishing the game is 'sidorovichs apprentice' wut

in ukrainian its even worse cuz it says "mom i'm going to the zone, i put the hat on!"

[lime vale]

bleh

[patent hazel]

Finished SoC:EE last night on Xbox, took me about a day to beat but damn it was great even on a pad. Started CS right after and, yeah, damn, people weren't kidding when they said this was rough.

Damn near lost it when that combat music at the swamp kicked in, what the hell

Also there's some weird horizontal garbled texture line that appears over the screen every now and then when the game loads a thing, not sure if this is normal but it's very odd.

[valid jasper]

A day??

Brother you’re missing out just speeding through

[patent hazel]

I've played up until chornobyl (literally quit at the yard due to the amount of enemies lol) back in 2009 or so, didn't remember much of it but it's not a huge game really.

I tried doing as much side stuff as i could, i think my final playtime was around 12 hours or so

[patent hazel]

9hrs 36mins apparently

[frosty radish]

I got 40 hours in on my first playthrough of Soc

[patent hazel]

How

Like what did you even do with all that time

[verbal tartan]

9 seems a bit low, 40 seems very too many much

[frosty radish]

I did a lot of side quests

CS and CoP I did around 25 hours in each

[frosty radish]

I ignored the main quests for most of the time and went all over doing side quests, so instead of ticking them off whilst doing the main story I decided to do them in parallel

[graceful horizon]

Playthroughs can take however long you want them to take

[patent hazel]

For sure, it just surprises me someone found that much to do

[graceful horizon]

Oh please

With a mod that allows selling armor to NPCs I at some point spend the time to equip the entire rookie village with exoskeletons, just because

[frosty radish]

I didn’t go in with a plan so I was not playing efficiently, I probably ran up like two hours accidentally leaving the game open, but yeah when you don’t chain missions up together the game can take a while, I was so sick of it by the end

[warped mist]

anyone see and know solutions for sound in all 3 ee games of stalker?in shoc game stars in 15 sec for me coz of high end gear and no intro movie,no sound!after sido talks he gives a task and door is locked!

for cop skadovsk door is locked in the very beginning an no sound as usual...and also cs ee game has no sound as well but i dont play cs like others and i dont see gamebreaking bugs like this one..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3612460715

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2427410/discussions/0/694245926190974928/

[flint crane]

Hi. Which is the coolest and most hardcore mod of the trilogy? Excluding Anomaly and Gamma, which I'm having trouble installing.

[granite jungle]

NLC7

[warped mist]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3612852222 i make this now...another door that dont unlock and no sound as usual for me!

[verbal tartan]

NLC7 as mentioned above, gamma isnt even close
Prosectors is over there too

[granite jungle]

DSH if you are a true sicko

[verbal tartan]

[flint crane]

What does this mod do?

[charred prism]

it is OP2 with NLC7 mechanics

torture

[flint crane]

Is standalone mod?

[charred prism]

yes

[flint crane]

This? https://www.moddb.com/mods/op209-dsh-mod-2018

[charred prism]

newer
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dsh-mod-english-translation/downloads/dsh-repack-includes-translation-and-addons

[verbal tartan]

mod for factory workers

[charred prism]

the people know what they want

[verbal tartan]

[flint crane]

thnks

[granite jungle]

Not for the faint hearted or those who enjoy fun really. And I say that being someone who plays OP-2

[late condor]

There are entire side quest lines

Did you interact with that at all lol

No offense or anything I just don’t get the mindset of rushing it

[patent hazel]

Yes

Maybe i just play fast idk, i definitely tried to look at every single place

People gave me shit for "rushing" elden ring in 32 hours on launch despite me playing it in a very casual pace

[late condor]

They kinda send you all over the zone, Voronin one alone takes like 3-4 hours to fully complete

[patent hazel]

Definitely didn't do completionist run in either though, i just interact with whatever i come across on the game at any given time

[late condor]

Alright I can see how it can be fast if you rush forward

You will have issues with that approach in CS and end up complaining about unfair balance though lol

This game really punishes you for going forward unprepared and expects you to stay behind a bit

[patent hazel]

What's the point of those black and white radiation areas in CS that you can't even see coming, you start taking rad damage that never goes away unless you use the medicine

So i just memorize the areas and then avoid them so i don't have to waste those resources? Annoying

[late condor]

they're usually logical, you dont have to memorize it. the way anomalies are placed in later games generally is subject to logic

e.g. there is psy near power lines

though that one you can spot miles away

[patent hazel]

I don't really understand what kind of logic that is but ok

[verbal tartan]

I mean, thats the point of being in an irradiated zone, right?
Being irradiated

[pale nebula]

Did Wolf still burn in an Exoskeleton?

[graceful horizon]

Couldn't get my hands on an exo before he left

[flint crane]

I started the DSH mod and I will have died at least 10 times as soon as the game starts

[charred prism]

aye, DSH is for people that got a good grasp on OP2 which is already a conveluted and hard mess
Id say play NLC7

OP2 is a junction of mods so it has a lot going on

[flint crane]

a link for op2? is standalone?

thanks

[charred prism]

https://op-2.fandom.com/wiki/Installation_and_links
I also recommend going to the C-Con server for help, they have veterans of the mod there, the server link is in the pinned messages on #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[verbal tartan]

The Man Who Sold His Time

[granite jungle]

It's very fun for a certain definition of fun

But it is for very experienced players

[torpid rapids]

Guys uhhh

Are there any mods let me drive vehicles around in Clear Sky or CoP

[granite jungle]

Not really. Or at least none that just do that afaik

[daring copper]

hey, so uh in shadow of chernobyl, does setting the difficulty to master disable the mini map? not sure if my game is bugged

[verbal tartan]

Your game bugged.
Could you show a screenshot in #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[daring copper]

dear god, how do I take a screenshot in this game?

[daring copper]

screenshot taken

[flint crane]

Ok I'll try op2 mod. Thanks.

[verbal tartan]

Good luck

[flint crane]

Will I need it? I finished the trilogy on the hardest difficulty. The Zone is my home.

[verbal tartan]

There is an option to turn on invincibility for a few seconds

If that isnt enough to say by itself, idk what is

[flint crane]

Then OP mod Is Easy not hardcore

[verbal tartan]

Why do you think they added that option to begin with?

Because the mod can get hard AF, with capital letters

Its quantity over quality

[granite jungle]

You can use it but it will place a mark of shame upon your soul

But also once you get exo and max bulletproof it becomes a lot more manageable

[patent hazel]

Well i made it to Yantar in cs now

[grizzled rock]

oskulock has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[patent hazel]

The guns sure jam more in this game when compared to SoC, not sure if i like that

[worldly torrent]

guns jam about every 3 seconds. As a clear sky player i would know this

[patent hazel]

I made it to the bridge fight, will take a break here. Game is definitely difficult compared to SoC

[ripe spire]

shall I kill the bridge military guards

[verbal tartan]

If you want to, why not

Afaik, there arent big consequences in doing so

[patent hazel]

And that's Clear Sky... Cleared

9hrs 47mins so 11 minutes longer than SoC!

I honestly liked it quite a bit, of course the map is more or less the same and they reused everything they could but i thought the economy being a bit tighter was good and it was definitely a bigger challenge than SoC, which makes sense seeing how this is the second game.

0 crashes and broken quests too, very good.

[verbal tartan]

Welcome to Clear Sky heaven, you are welcomed

[light shuttle]

Nah, they don't reused everything they could.
I believe seriously that bar and rostok wasn't integrated by have bad level design

[frosty radish]

Clear sky took me twenty ish hours 😭

[verbal tartan]

@karmic horizon ma man be scamming

[karmic horizon]

Only idiots rush through the game.

[verbal tartan]

it was about the scammed you banned minutes ago , you got them on #☢┃stalker-general

[karmic horizon]

I didn't see it. Another Moderator got it.

[verbal tartan]

nice

[torpid rapids]

why cant I complete the destroy the duty quest? Ive killed all duty members around there

their leader skull, died from the freedom-sniper I killed before

[ripe spire]

hi guys

[ripe spire]

Never seen this mutant before

[karmic horizon]

Neither have I. It's not my screenshot. No idea what Clear Sky Mod this is.

[ripe spire]

Calm down I just saying

[karmic horizon]

Calm down yourself.

[ripe spire]

Im already calm

[patent hazel]

[graceful horizon]

Don't calm down too much yall, you might fall asleep

[torpid rapids]

ive killed all duty members and the Destroy the duty squad quest doesnt updat??

[late condor]

i think it's a soc mod implementing CS HUD

[late condor]

loading a save resets a counter, you need to kill them all in one go

[torpid rapids]

skull died when I killed the freedom sniper for them

and I dont have a save with skull still alive

[late condor]

then the quest is stuck, im sorry

[torpid rapids]

Ive killed max to fail the destroy duty, now freedom hates me

can the hate towards me be reverted? so they wont shoot me on sight?

[late condor]

no, you cant gain relationship points that easily

and you need to be neutral wiht a faction to do tasks for them

[torpid rapids]

will it affect my playthrough much if they hate me? will I encounter them much?

[torpid rapids]

or is there a command in console to get unstuck

[late condor]

There isn't, console does not allow you to modify the game like that. It's mostly for changing settings and a few debug things.

Nothing that would be gameplay useful

[torpid rapids]

I see, will I encounter many more freedom members?

it`d be dumb if they are much in the zone, I dont wanna get shot every minute

[late condor]

outside of military warehouses, no

[torpid rapids]

or I maybe dont tell lukash of the duty squad after all, what would be the reward for killing duty squad?

[torpid rapids]

will the: kill the sniper quest be failed if I leave the area?

[late condor]

no

[torpid rapids]

i killed the duty guys alone and duty at barkeep doesnt seem to be mad, ig thats fine and no stuck quests

[pale nebula]

It's a Librarian, from Metro 2033.

[ripe spire]

Funny name

for a mutant like that

[pale nebula]

It's because you find them mainly in the Moscow State Library, in Metro 2033. Hence the name.

[grizzled rock]

kerber has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[patent hazel]

CoP is a bit harder to follow because there doesn't seem to be a clear quest progression route there unlike the first two, i need to get on top of a cliff where there is a helicopter but the game just tells me to to ask people

Very similar to older Ultima games or something in this regard

The hub area is also much better designed than in the first two, i feel like if you wanted to spend a lot of time in one of these games this would easily be the best one for it

[granite jungle]

The first part of the game is very nonlinear. You have to investigate all the different crash sites, and that will naturally lead you to explore and interact with different stalkers