⭐┃trilogy-general

[fast salmon]

rostok was owed to freedom 3000 years ago

[lament bone]

I know

[fast salmon]

ya ya boom boom

[lament bone]

All of the zone belongs to Freedom because of how goated we are 😤

[fast salmon]

🐐

(ToT)

[late condor]

i wonder if all factions friendly (including renegades) run is possible

in theory it isn't, because in order to make renegades neutral, you would join freedom or bandits. and once you do join a faction, there isnt a way to leave it (other than joining another faction), and one faction would always be an enemy for you

[graceful horizon]

Hmmm

[late condor]

however, leaving swamps resets your faction, so if you were to perform an oob glitch to get out of swamps and then return to finish the questline, you would be able to leave the faction

but then you wouldnt be able to join any faction still i think

because story progress

[graceful horizon]

Sadly you can't eliminate duty 100% like with the bandits, otherwise you could do a all remaining factions friendly run

[late condor]

oh yeah how the respawning camp and the target camp are different is complete bullcrap design

i mean, you could do a all remaining factions friendly run with 0 bandits i guess?

[graceful horizon]

Freedom base is the worst example

[graceful horizon]

You can't 0 percent the renegades

Sadly

[late condor]

but you can become freinds with them

[graceful horizon]

Yeah but... combined with bandits eliminated?

[late condor]

oh yeah, i forgot that while loners are neutral to renegades, loner Scar isnt

so even if you get +1000 boost from quests, you're stuck with -5000 faction relations

[late condor]

yeah, there isn't a way to do this

The only way to have renegades neutral is being a bandit or a freedomer, even no-faction Scar has -5000 relations with em

[late condor]

that's why you don't play radiophobia lol, it just sets you up for wrong expectations

[graceful horizon]

Plot device bandit faction relations

[lament bone]

Why are bandits and freedom chill in the first place?

[graceful horizon]

To give players a chance when they join bandits

NPC bandits and freedommers aren't even chill

[humble crescent]

Bandits are the most crazy faction. Once you capture the stalker base they start to attack everything and everywhere. Dark valley, army warehouses, Duty base at Agroprom, everything. And it creates problems because they send squads anywhere but Cordon. NPCs don't attack the target if there's 3 enemy squads, but it's impossible to get 3 bandit squads at the stalker base because if one of them captures the base, others start to attack less significant targets on other locations. So stalkers spam squads all the time and regain their base immediately after you stop defending it. I finished faction wars for all the factions, but bandit fw is nearly unwinnable because of this problem. The problem lies in their relative power which is too low in comparsion with stalkers. Their last faction war target is to get to the half of stalker relative power, that's why they try to capture half of the zone. But it's nearly impossible, because even when stalkers lose their base, their power level barely changes, they have too many squads everywhere.

[humble crescent]

The second problem is duty and freedom and their war for the control over the barrier at the army warehouses. They move through the garbage and ruin bandit faction war progress. It was less of a problem in vanilla CS but in EE you need to control all of the garbage, not only entrances to cordon. The only improvement EE did is that bandits try to reoccupy flea market when they lose it because of freedom or duty attacks. Diggers also take part in faction wars and if bandits lose flea market, stalkers start to spawn there and attack bandits. The best solution is to remove the barrier as duty and freedom secondary target, so they'll stop spamming squads trying to defeat each other at the barrier. Maybe it will also fix the bug with freedom and duty squads ignoring their main faction war target in favour of the barrier (if it still exists). But it requires further testing.

[late condor]

don't attack the target if there's 3 enemy squads
It's not like that. The game does not check the number of squads or NPCs but rather cumulative rank. So e.g. a squad of 5 masters can still attack a base with 3 squads of novices.

For mutants it's rank difference plus time-based attack power growth. So the more they stay in place, the more likely they are to attack. Hunger simulation I guess?

[lilac blaze]

Question for cop is there any other way up to the helicopter on the plateau in zaton or is it just the space anomaly?

[late condor]

the intended one is space anomaly, you can glitch yourself there though

[lilac blaze]

Gotya

[lean fossil]

I think CoP was the shortest stalker game I've played

And it didn't make me want to throw my computer at my wall while playing on master difficulty like Clear Sky

[graceful horizon]

Clear sky on master is not for the faint of heart

It's not horrible, but it'll put up a fight

[lean fossil]

It was mostly the fact that for the last segment I had like 2 medkits and 6 bandages after starting with 40 of each xD

[graceful horizon]

Firefly and flame artifacts are the way to go

[verbal tartan]

Master is never a good reason to play unless you want to test your gamer skills

[fast salmon]

i just got back into the metro series and my oh my have i missed it 2033 on ranger hardcore

[light shuttle]

Zzzz

[verbal tartan]

I will die on that hill

[light shuttle]

Gil.

[verbal tartan]

Yeah, and?

And I say that as someone who beated CS on master twice

[tawdry cargo]

Master aint that bad

[torpid rapids]

Master is how the game was meant to be played

[tawdry cargo]

Real, why play anything else

Loll my tag makes my name cut off here

[graceful horizon]

Not for me

[tawdry cargo]

Im on mobile if anything

[graceful horizon]

Resolution issue

Also on mobile

[tawdry cargo]

Goddamn I havent talked here in ages . I need to get back into it but it's hard

[graceful horizon]

Maybe fiddling interface scale will fix it

[tawdry cargo]

Forgot i had half these roles

[graceful horizon]

If it bothers you

[tawdry cargo]

Im in too many servers

[graceful horizon]

Same

[lament bone]

Why isnt Freedom capturing the points I cleared out in Clear Sky?

[torpid rapids]

Faction wars is finicky. I’m currently struggling to work with bandits. But i can say that when I did a duty & freedom run it was a bit worse.

[lament bone]

Alr thx

[torpid rapids]

Somtimes reloading a save to get the NPCs to spawn works. Or traveling to a different zone.

[graceful horizon]

You need to let the AI take the lead. Destroying everything in your path and hoping squads will follow only breaks the factionwar

[late condor]

The game was playtested with godmode mostly

[torpid rapids]

Exactly. Gotta take one point at a time or go do something else while they take a couple points.

I found it best works when you wipe out 1-2 points. Travel to a different zone and do something else. Like killing off freedom in their territory while bandits take control of paths to garbage.

[graceful horizon]

either I treat the faction wars as a collection of escort missions or I let my faction do a the work while I bock the hostile faction spawnpoint

[verbal tartan]

[green heath]

CoP on master didn't feel that difficult at all tho.

[graceful horizon]

it isn't

[green heath]

I finished it in about 12-14 hours.

One of the best games I've played tho.

[graceful horizon]

it would score higher in my book if the main story was better

[green heath]

It definitely felt too short.

[torpid rapids]

CoP had a good structure. Just needed to be more fleshed out

[light shuttle]

what a shame that GSC dont wanted make CoP bigger.

[late condor]

They initially had bigger plans for Pripyat-1

[light shuttle]

Pripyat Underground is pure cinema in Anarchy Cell desdoc (2006).

[lament bone]

How do I increase Freedom’s resources in Clear Sky?

Also which is better the SEVA suit or the Guardian of Freedom suit for Clear Sky

[verbal tartan]

SEVA 100%

[verbal tartan]

also, wdym by "resources"

[lament bone]

Your Factions resources

That give them extra good gear and sh

[verbal tartan]

you can't afaik

[lament bone]

I can’t what?

[light shuttle]

u can

[grizzled rock]

shevi1140 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[light shuttle]

just give love to the enemies of freedom

[lament bone]

I did

I even destroyed the duty baseball by myself before I got us a foot hold in Agroprom

Because freedom wont go capture the makeshift camp or the path to garbage outposts

So now Duty respawned and I don’t know what to do now

[light shuttle]

Weird.

[lament bone]

Ikr

[light shuttle]

What a shame that Faction Wars in CS is an incomplete system.

[lament bone]

It’s a good idea, just needed some more work

[light shuttle]

yes, Global War is an great example of an big faction wars.
And seems that GSC wanted that every playable faction can fight against every other faction.

[verbal tartan]

1. you can either keep trying until they take the base or give up, because Duty will eventually respawn and try to kill Freedom, maybe even overtaking them
2. you can't give them better gear

they don't take gear or weapons, afaik. I think it's only a mods thing

[lament bone]

Who said ima give them the gear

It’s just resources that I believe increases, and then they get the better equipment themselves

[verbal tartan]

they can't

[lament bone]

Why not

[verbal tartan]

because they weren't programmed to

[lament bone]

I worked for the stalkers

[verbal tartan]

I mean, they don't get better equipment, they can't

[lament bone]

Oh

Why didn’t you just say so in the first place?

[verbal tartan]

I did

[verbal tartan]

^^

[lament bone]

Da helly does afaik mean

[verbal tartan]

"as far as I know"

[lament bone]

Then how do I win the faction war if freedom wont do sh

I told them fools they need to chill wit da weed

[verbal tartan]

To to follow freedom and capture with them, or hold a point they are close to, don't try to kill more and more when they haven't got a hold in the first place

Keep doing that and then reach the base, and a notification of victory should appear

[lament bone]

Bet

Thanks twin

May the Zone bless you

[verbal tartan]

"Freedom Exoskeleton (a lighter version of the Exoskeleton), a Walther P99, a Dragunov SVD, 15000 RU and lots of NATO ammunition"
This is a reward btw

Only do it if you care about this stuff or because you just want personal gain

Otherwise, personally at least, it's not worth it, because Duty will still respawn and maybe take over at least the main base

[lament bone]

I know the rewards

That’s why I’m doing this in the first place

And also because Doodie sucks

I mean Duty

[verbal tartan]

[spiral lynx]

Damn I run with the same issue while fighting for freedom

This weed really is too much man

[grizzled rock]

tai_876539_t has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[elfin lotus]

Dovbana bot

[late condor]

Based 4:3 enjoyer

[light shuttle]

Is "We are not alone".

[feral oar]

How do i enter the avangard stadium in SoC without triggering the cutscene that spawns me on the other side

[light shuttle]

enter by one of the side, with parkour.

[sacred geode]

Hello stalkers, Stalker SoC Enhanced Edition, when using the demo_record 1 command, a bunch of different indicators also appear on the screen, such as fps, coordinates, etc. Is there a command to remove this information? I found how to remove hud, but these texts spoil the whole picture, I want to have a completely clean screen.

[dim condor]

Is there any mod i can repair my guns and armor in shadow of chernobyl?

[verbal tartan]

"demo_record is intended to record footage. Press space when 'flying around' to capture camera movement points, then press escape and type in demo_play 1 (or whatever you typed after demo_record) to view the footage.

Alternatively, there is a small bug that causes the text to disappear without actually recording the footage. After going into demo_record, press backspace, quickly followed by escape. You will leave demo_record and your HUD should disappear. Then just type in demo_record again, and the red text should be gone. Keep in mind that this method may glitch the display of HUD, and it will not be possible to restore it from within the game. If that happens, just restart the game."

From a google search, cant personally say if it works

[verbal tartan]

AMK iirc

[dim condor]

Where i can find it?

[verbal tartan]

Moddb should give you some options. I have two:

1. AMK aurora: https://www.moddb.com/mods/amk-autumn-edition

2. AMK pure: https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker/downloads/amk-1-4-eng

The second its like "Vanilla+"
Aurora version is like "Vanilla+++" but also "Not Vanilla"

[dim condor]

So these two mods have rapair in their?

[verbal tartan]

They have repair, and some more. Pure has less things than aurora

You can also check for ZRP but I dont remember if that one features repairs

Yeah, iirc, I think it has it as an option on the modifier.exe that comes with it

If you want a real vanilla experience but with repair, put everything to default on the modifier.exe but add the repairs

[late condor]

I mean even if you disable completely everything, ZRP still brings a lot of crap unprompted

[verbal tartan]

Well, yeah

But I wouldn't say they are that bad most of the time, especially for a second playthrough

[late condor]

i find it so weird to want repair system from soc

the game is designed around not having it

[light shuttle]

i think that a few builds had that thingi

[late condor]

no lol

[verbal tartan]

I guess they played CS or CoP and wanted one too

Some people are also pretty attached to their gun

[light shuttle]

I swear that isn't mod brainrot🙏

[karmic horizon]

Viewsonic E790B 19" CRT

[alpine atlas]

so I think I am about halfway through Stalker 2, and to be honest I am not really meshing with it. all of the mutants feel vey similar, and the human enemy AI seems very stupid, but they also have perfect aim from 100 meters away with smg iron sights somehow.

i have heard that the games in the original trilogy are much better as far as these things are concerned. i am looking for a somewhat realistic milsim type experience where both me, enemy humans, and stalkers all die like 3-4 shots max, with like a focus on atmosphere and immersion.

which game, graphics updates, gameplay mods, or overhaul mods do you guys think i would enjoy based on the stuff above? i have always heard about the original games have great mod support that can make the game play basically however you like

[alpine atlas]

i did a little digging around and it looks like Anomaly is basically all of the content of the original trilogy combined, with some opinionated gameplay changes to make them all mesh together better, and i am getting the sense that if i want to play that in a slower, more tactical milsim way, i should look at some mod packs like Gamma or Escape from Pripyat?

[late condor]

i would recommend you to look into some other games tbh, stalker is arcade-y-ish game, by no means its a milsim

[alpine atlas]

i know that, i only mean milsim in like how the guns work and can be replaced part by part, the UI is reduced and like stuff dies in realistic amounts of hits. i have heard all of these things are available in some capacity through mods

[sacred geode]

Thank you, now I understand how the demo_record command works.

[alpine atlas]

actually i didn't realize that anomaly doesn't actually include the story and characters and quests from the original games. i thought it was basically all of the games, including their story, together as one thing

so is there like a recommended patch for Shadow of Chernobyl that like fixes bugs and other anachronistic things and maybe updates textures and skyboxes or something?

or are the enhanced editions on steam good enough on their own without needing any mods?

[charred prism]

play the original unmodded

[alpine atlas]

where can i even get it? steam only has the enhanced edition which steam reviews say kinda sucks

[charred prism]

getting the EE editions will also get you the original game

[alpine atlas]

oh is it just like when you press play, it asks you which one to launch?

[charred prism]

no, buying the EE will add the originals to your steam account, they are separate downloads

[verbal tartan]

Then you dont seem to want the original games based on those descriptions tbh, you want the Gamma or EFP stuff.

And I would recommend to play SoC vanilla first so you get the grasp of the game and why people like us love it. Doesn't make much sense to play a modded version first when you havent even touched the game.

Also, The changes you ask are so different from each other, you'll need different mods that aren't compatible. At most, I can recommend stuff like Autumm Aurora, Stalker Complete or Radiophobia, all of them with their big pros and cons

[lyric garnet]

so i was in army warehouses just now to test out my new gun in the merc checkpoint, when i was walking there i stepped on a hill above the bloodsucker village to try and shoot on bloodsucker, after i shot one the game started making this weird kinda schreaking sound, the vision got lighter and slightly blurred and it made the drunk effect

is this normal? is that what happens when you piss off a bloodsucker? was it because i didn't turn off the yantar brainscorcher? i never had this happen to me

[graceful horizon]

It means that there's something else nearby: )

But I'll leave the rest for you to discover on your own

[lyric garnet]

my lord

3rd playthrough and this makes me as scared as i was the first time playing

[graceful horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-evil-smile-gif-13030909

Don't worry, I've been playing these games for 17-18 years and I still discover new things

[lyric garnet]

truly an amazing game

[dim condor]

And is there a mod that can give double damage for the guns, for being more realistic.
(And being more ez to kill.)

[verbal tartan]

Maybe check amk autumm, idk if it has that option or not

There is a mod for that, but I heavily doubt that its compatible with the ones I mentioned

You should look on moddb and check

Otherwise, you'll have to check modpacks that have that feature as a base, or read their description and search for how compatible they are

As a tip, if you are playing on master or veteran, just dont. Unless you are experienced on the game of course

It just makes you weaker while having the enemies intact on how much damage they recieve

[lyric garnet]

dude i just hopped back on the game and im so scared

your explanation made me so anxious

lol

whatever it is it's not gonna jumpscare me is it?

[graceful horizon]

peak stalker experience

jumpscare? unlikely

[lyric garnet]

unlikely? so it can happen

[graceful horizon]

if you turn a corner and it's right in your face, sure

[lyric garnet]

dude what this freaks me out

[graceful horizon]

lemme know when you want the answer^^

[lyric garnet]

ok lol, i'll just roam around to see if it maybe presents itself on it's own

fcking hell it was a controller

my god what a creature

[graceful horizon]

HE DID IT\o/

[lyric garnet]

i didnt even know you could meet them outside of the underground labs lol

[verbal tartan]

I dont remember that a controller was on army warehouses

[graceful horizon]

yeah there's places where they just spawn

[verbal tartan]

In which place was it

[lyric garnet]

bloodsucker village

[verbal tartan]

Theres one in there?

lol, guess I havent seen it before

[lyric garnet]

evidently yes

[lyric garnet]

yes me too! that's why i was so confused lol, def didn'T expect one

[lyric garnet]

where else do they spawn?

[graceful horizon]

secondary visits to yantar, army warehouses and pripyat can have controlers spawn

[lyric garnet]

of course it's yantar lol, terrible place

[graceful horizon]

rarely you can find them passing through red forest too, to move to the other maps presumably

[lyric garnet]

oh cool

thanks

[dim condor]

How gbs have stalker 2?

[verbal tartan]

160gb

[dim condor]

.

Aren't you confusing it with gamma?

[verbal tartan]

nope

it's 160gb

[dim condor]

...

[verbal tartan]

it's a really big and bloated unreal engine 5 game

it takes a lot of space

[dim condor]

The creators know that, right?

[verbal tartan]

what do you think

it's like making a game and not knowing if it has graphics or not

of course they know

[dim condor]

I don't know, could they do the same thing Rockstar did with GTA 5, optimize everything?

[verbal tartan]

I think you should be more impressed by gamma's size tbh

[verbal tartan]

Maybe it's possible, maybe it's not that big of a difference

[dim condor]

Why?

[verbal tartan]

Idk, I'm not a S2 dev

I'm not a dev in general

[dim condor]

Alright.

[dim condor]

Why?

[verbal tartan]

it's much older and smaller, but it's full of bloat and 4k textures and weapons and stuff

although tbh a lot of that it's optional

but I think you still have to download everything first

[light shuttle]

HoC "uncompressed" has an weight of +700 GB, 150-160 GB is pretty good.

[verbal tartan]

Yeah, I mean, considering what it is, its pretty ok

[grizzled rock]

freeeagle has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[alpine atlas]

uhhh does stalker shadow of pripyat run like shit for you guys?

just the normal version, not enhanced edition

i have a like ryzen 7 3700x and an rtx 7700xt, and the game runs like total dogshit poopoo

i am only playing on 1080p so i feel like i should be able to run this game with everything maxed out at several hundred fps, but the game just feels super laggy and jittery and stuttery

i am playing with the SoC Complete mod, but that shouldn't be causing these kinds of issues if its just texture and lighting improvements, as i can play Morrowind with much heavier graphical updates on whatever settings i want just fine

[verbal tartan]

Check the usage of your cpu and gpu first while you are playing

Also, I think you were having a stroke while reading this. "Shadow of pripyat, RTX 7700xt"

And no, you wont get several hundred fps, even less with graphical mods. The engine isnt well optimized and it runs on a single core and few (or a single) threads iirc

Maybe you can try disabling cpu 0 on core affinity and check if that makes it better, may or may not work

[alpine atlas]

is call of pripyat, either standard or enhanced editions any better? i was gonna play that next with autumn aurora 2 but i might just skip to it if i can't get shadow of chernobyl to run better than like stuttery 40fps

[verbal tartan]

Are you sure your gpu and cpu are being properly used?
Also, Enhanced looks better, doesnt run better. Thats best I can say

But then again, this seems like a clear misusage of hardware

[alpine atlas]

how am i "misusing" hardware??? what???

[verbal tartan]

Not you, maybe the game is not properly using your cpu or gpu

[alpine atlas]

i see

[verbal tartan]

Use msi afterburner and hwinfo and check

[alpine atlas]

yeah its my first core getting owned, btop showed it maxed out while the game was on, everything else was fine/normal

is there any way to like trick the game into using more cores, or some kind of like OpenMW style engine rewrite or something?

[verbal tartan]

Disable core 0 in task manager - cpu affinity, but no. The engine is single core. Maybe try the enhanced edition, I've heard it uses more

But that still doesnt explain the low fps. What about the graphics card usage

[alpine atlas]

it looks normal, it jumps up a bit when i load the game

adding taskset -c 1-15 %command% to the start of my launch options helped

but i also moved the lighting mode down to object dynamic lighting mode, or whatever the one between static and full lighting is, so i need to restart and make sure it wasn't that setting

yeah it was taskset that fixed it

game still is a tiny bit stuttery when turning really fast but i think that is just how the game works

but i can at least play the game now on max and full dynamic lighting

[torpid rapids]

Anybody know why the game stutters slightly when being near to campfires?
In SoC OG

[torpid rapids]

hello where can i get stalker SoC SDK?

[white grove]

Hey how is this possible? https://youtu.be/uTNGnedx-Mg?si=BU_ZQnzbHNPTlviK

I thought guitars weren’t playable in the trilogy.

Wait….i see the one character moving around…it’s probably gmod. Never mind. Sorry.

[verbal tartan]

You could join the C-Conciousness discord and go to their modding channel

They have a lot of resources for that

[torpid rapids]

im banned remember?

[verbal tartan]

I dont

But if you want, I can give the links of the wikis or so

[verbal tartan]

I cant send images here, but look at the logo at the bottom right corner. Its a mod in develpment where you play with friends. It's called Xrmpe

[verbal tartan]

https://youtu.be/0rFJQAEa4DM?si=Z3yPGAWj4I6FCKYY

[torpid rapids]

Meow/Pimpy/? i forget my names quite often.

[verbal tartan]

I mostly remember people by their profile pics and their first name I ever saw from them , sorry

I have really bad memory

[torpid rapids]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test)#/media/File:Trinity_shot_color.jpg

[verbal tartan]

Also, most likely an addon of the guitar is used

[white grove]

Ah. For a big there I thought it was gmod because of the obvious online player. So that mod is all multiplayer only? I was hoping it was a play the guitar mod I could use while waiting to buy stalker 2

[verbal tartan]

I may remember more now, but not fully, sorry

[torpid rapids]

i exposed CCON for what they did in the past and got banned. I used to be one of the main few in NLC7 general

[verbal tartan]

Ah, now I remember

[torpid rapids]

yes, you mind asking Eruiq for an unban? honestly its been so long, i feel like.. im such a good boy now!

[verbal tartan]

I think its only multiplayer, yeah. You could search on moddb or their own discord server

[verbal tartan]

Guess I can try

[torpid rapids]

thank you <33

[white grove]

Aww shoot

[verbal tartan]

You could try tho, maybe you could make a server but be alone there

[light shuttle]

Guitar mods are an thingi from 5+ years ago.

[verbal tartan]

I honestly havent seen them

Maybe I've searched through moddb badly

[light shuttle]

Leer did a guitar mechanic for Legend Returns 1.0 in 2020 that even was more complete that the one that he did in Alone in Windstorm.

[white grove]

Honestly I just looked at the workshop for enhanced. I’m only up for enhanced edition because I use controller

[light shuttle]

Moddb sucks for stalker mods compared to webs like AP-PRO, stalker-mods.clan.su, stalker portaal.

[verbal tartan]

I honestly forget that I can use ap pro

Even less the other two

[light shuttle]

There a guide for put controller support on the trilogy tho, let me search.

[verbal tartan]

As always, LR team being based

[light shuttle]

https://www.moddb.com/members/marksmanko/blogs/stalker-with-a-gamepadcontroller

I tried that with SoC and works well.

[white grove]

Does it work on steam deck?

[light shuttle]

Idk, i guess that as steam deck is like an "mini-pc" should work.

[white grove]

Cool

[torpid rapids]

I want to find some good weapons and armour after i reached lv 2 in soc.
Where can i find it?

[torpid rapids]

Wdym by level 2? There are no levels in stalker.

And what kind of weapons and armor do you favor?

I meamt i reached garbage part

My dumbass

[torpid rapids]

Assult rifles/sniper rifle
Also i heard there is a deagle in soc where can i find it?

[torpid rapids]

Do urself a favor, head to army warehouses and kill some freedom boys and grab one of their G36 rifles. It’s accurate and packs a punch.

[torpid rapids]

Umm im a freedom fan
Can i just kill duty and get a pkm?

PKM is dookie

You can find ur deagle on a body in wild territory.

[torpid rapids]

How to get a good 5.45 weapon early game

I mean the akm

[torpid rapids]

Best is “Tunder” held by a Duty member by the name of Barin, who can be found in the Bar.

Or the Obokan which you can obtain just playing through the story.

[graceful horizon]

Tunder is with some distance the most powerful 5.45 gun. Can be obtained from Barin, but sidorovich also sells it occasionally(10% chance) before getting your reward from wolf for freeing nimble

For I think 20K

[torpid rapids]

Ok thx guys

I just wonder where can i find the Ak-74M

[torpid rapids]

Kill military at Agroprom Institute

[gaunt ocean]

Hey guys I'm playing through Shadow of Chernobyl and having a hard time finding Night Star for my side jobs, Any suggestions?

Google's recommended has done nothing for me this far

[late condor]

2 guaranteed to spawn in Pripyat as a part of monolith tower,

Any strong gravitational anomaly can spawn one as well, notably one in Agroprom near the southeastern closed gates, as well as almost all gravitation anomalies in Pripyat (most notably there are 11 such anomalies on the stadium, but also 2 near the Lenin statue, 1 near garages and 1 on the auto station).

If you haven’t yet completed X18 you can get one from a stash in there, the stash coordinates are dropped from dutier corpses in Dark Valley.

Baldy quest offers a Night star as a reward.

There are some breakable containers that have a 1% chance of dropping it. Most notably, one in Bar, near military warehouses entrance, 5 in X16, 2 in Red Forest, 1 in X10 and 2 in Pripyat.

If you are playing on EE 1.3+, any dead NPC on Red Forest and further levels (other than Monolithian, zombie or military), has a 0.5% chance to have that artifact on their body.

[gaunt ocean]

Thank you so much! After red forest I might backtrack if that's the case

[humble crescent]

There are 2 wooden boxes to the left of the entrance of the bar. Save near them and repeatedly destroy them until you get the night star. It usually takes up to 10 minutes. Another such box is near the exit to the army warehouses.

[gaunt ocean]

I'll check these other areas as well in the meantime. I got my SEVA so I wanna slam the jobs out before going forfth

[late condor]

The former two will only drop high-tier artifacts in EE 1.3+, in OG release their chance is rounded down to zero.

The one near the army warehouses has > 1% chance so it has a chance for a night star in any release

[lament bone]

Where is the Duty trader in SoC?

I have access to the Duty base

Nvm

[torpid rapids]

Bruh wild territory.

Where the bar is…

[lament bone]

Nvm I already found him

[torpid rapids]

Blind ah mf

[lament bone]

Sybau I thought he would be in the Duty base cellar

[torpid rapids]

You dumby stupid or what?

[lament bone]

It was an educated guess

[jovial stump]

Hows is SoC EE now? Im tossing up between SoC with ZRP or SoC EE for my first play

[verbal tartan]

If you want soc with SSS but with AI upscaled textures, go EE. If you dont care, SoC woth ZRP, but, after install it, go to the gamedata folder, go to the modifier.exe and change everything to default

If you want the most vanilla experience (its not because zrp will change some stuff still), thts the way to go

But you can also play it without zrp, every bug or crash I had in my 100+ hours was non-major

[humble crescent]

EE is much more stable than vanilla, I don't remember any ctds for a past 3 months. But AI upscaled icons look much worse than in vanilla. I'd recommend EE with vanilla interface mod if such exists.

[frosty radish]

For a first playthrough, do SoC without any mods, then have the ZRP

the EE still isn’t worth it in my opinion

[jovial stump]

ty for suggestions. im doing a vanilla SoC playthrough. will probably do r3 after it

[frosty radish]

Good, it’s best to play a game unmodded at first, have fun stalker!

[torpid rapids]

Guys i reached angroprom in Soc where can i find Strelok stash

[verbal tartan]

If you've talked to Mole, read your PDA. At the right part of the quest's name, you have a box icon you can click. It will give you instructions. Use this not only for this quest, but for any quest you have some doubts/need more info. As well as reading the encyclopedia and stuff

[torpid rapids]

Where is Mole

[verbal tartan]

The guy you must save at agroprom, where the military is attacking

[torpid rapids]

Oh thx man

[verbal tartan]

If you cant save it, just loot his body, the quest must appear either way

[light shuttle]

Yes
buttttttttttt

Only in the builds of SoC

U want jump to modded levels?, some maps already have an spawn (u just need make an new playthrought) on the level and others need an start from the console.

Pripyat has several areas out of bounds.

In SoC.

[torpid rapids]

Guys where can i find Okaban in miltary at angroprom

Im playin soc rn

[late condor]

It’s still meh

[frosty radish]

Does anyone know what anomaly ||Strelok|| is holding in the cutscene?

[late condor]

Anomaly? As in artifact?

In trilogy it’s generic unnamed artifact, it never had any official name or use. Just a cutscene prop to show stuff from unseen-before lands.

In S2 it was given a purpose and a name, but a) I won’t spoil it; b) it’s important not to try to apply S2 lore to trilogy.

[torpid rapids]

🫀

[frosty radish]

Oh yeah, sorry

[tawdry cargo]

When he comes back from the north? Forgot the name but you can find one in Yantar pretty easily in SoC

[frosty radish]

It’s a cutscene where he bursts in and says “if only you’ve seen what I have seen” or something like that

[late condor]

What lol

[tawdry cargo]

Yeah that one

[tawdry cargo]

It's on the 3rd floor above the miracle machine or smthn, i find it every time

[late condor]

Are you trolling or just being confidently incorrect lol

[frosty radish]

SurDno is right, S2 and the trilogy should be keep segregated

[tawdry cargo]

Confidently correct. I know it's up there, it's the only spot i see it throughout the trilogy and it's always there. Not great but i swear ive seen it lmao

I pick it up every playthrough though

[late condor]

I do not know how to tell you this, but none of 27 artifacts present in SoC look even remotely like the one in the cutscene. It only becomes seen for the first time as an item in S2.

[tawdry cargo]

Istg ive seen it, ik exactly where the pickup is

It just lays there on the floor, every single playthrough

[frosty radish]

Tell you what, if you can, reload a save and pick it up and post a screenshot

[verbal tartan]

well, it's not that artifact, because as surdno said, it's not in the game at all

[tawdry cargo]

If i remember Ill go for it tomorrow lol

[tawdry cargo]

Not too hard to find, it just sits there

[verbal tartan]

there may be an artifact

but it's not the one displayed in the cutscene

[verbal tartan]

omg stalker mobile!

[torpid rapids]

Guys how tf im i supposed to get past the electric anomally in angroprom underground

[humble crescent]

You chose the wrong way, there's another one, down the stairs.

[torpid rapids]

Oh shit

[humble crescent]

Btw this anomaly spawns good artifacts at midnight

[verbal tartan]

You can, technically, throw bolts and rush through, if you go at the right time

But you can find a way around it on another part of the place

[grizzled rock]

mytz1927 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[torpid rapids]

where do i post my yt

i made a very good stalker ELITE episode very very good!!!!

[torpid rapids]

#🔮┃fanart_and_cosplay

Keep in mind, self advertisement is prohibited unless you have a content creators badge.

wtf why

yo @gsc give me content creator

[warped marsh]

Apply for one
#📺┃media message

[verbal tartan]

Leave him alone, he has unfinished business

[fast salmon]

this looks like it was made for the gamecube

[fast salmon]

u can run through it if u time running and throwing a bolt

[karmic horizon]

Screenshot from 16 years ago in 2009.

[warped marsh]

What a gem, I hope that Tuna Stalker is doing fine, after all these years

[graceful horizon]

legend has it he's still waiting to ambush me after I chased him away with a grenade and escaped without interacting with him

[grizzled rock]

davfis has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lyric garnet]

i hate yantar i hate yantar scary evil place

[fast salmon]

its the most tame place in the game wdym

u constantly know whats going on unlike the rest

[tidal plume]

Does anyone have a idea why the original SOC won’t let me bind leaning to mouse 4 and 5? I guess it’ll let me bind it but it won’t register in game.

[late condor]

X-Ray has a very old and weird input API, which is why stuff like print screen doesn’t work when the game is open

[tidal plume]

Gotcha, I'm pretty sure Clear sky and CoP let me but ill have to check again. I feel like I got it to work once but I cant remember

[karmic horizon]

You can turn Tuna and his two companions neutral, if you leave them alone and engage in certain events.

[late condor]

Weird translation mod

[lyric garnet]

scary

[tender ferry]

Cheeki breeki

[torpid rapids]

????????????

[late condor]

It’s mostly static

Never dark cause the weather is always the same

Only two types of enemies one of which is extremely slow to react and will ignore you if you don’t provoke them too much

[lilac blaze]

Can you do hunting the chimera before meeting trapper in yanov station?

[verbal tartan]

No afaik

wait, actually, it's given by gonta, I thought trapper gave it to you. So uh, maybe?
You'll have to inform trapper about it later for the quest to finish tho

[karmic horizon]

Yes, you can roam Jupiter and meet just about any mutant, if you spend long enough time in the game.

If you mean can you find a Chimera, yes. However specific side-missions are another subject.

[lilac blaze]

Its the specific mission with gonta

[karmic horizon]

That's in Zaton. Less chance of seeing a bigger variety of mutants, as you find in Jupiter.

[lilac blaze]

Gotya. I'm just asking cuz i saw to complete it you have to meet trapper?

[verbal tartan]

The reward gets claimed and the quests ends when you talk to him

So yeah, you need to as least see him once for the quest to end

[torpid rapids]

is it possible to 100% in single playthrough (as all achievements?)

[verbal tartan]

In game CoP achievements or the ones added on EE?

[torpid rapids]

steam ones

[late condor]

As the challenges include all achievements, both are impossible in a single playthrough

Also I really hate how today “100%”ing a stalker game is associated with doing some weird achievements that force you to explore half the game at best lol

You can miss most of SoC’s uniques, many fully scripted quests and almost all of the cyclics, all of the stashes… and say you 100%d the game

The achievements are so random and nonsensical

[verbal tartan]

Well, isn't that EE in general?

[late condor]

As a certified EE hater yeah (also achievements were added in LOTZ even pre-EE but that’s me being a snob)

[verbal tartan]

Lets spread the misinfo that EE added them and case solved

[torpid rapids]

dont shift the blame onto players, they’re not responsible for things that are recognized as steam achievements

[torpid rapids]

other than that i agree

[humble crescent]

I like that despite your hatred for EE, you did so much to improve it that devs added your nickname to the credits

[karmic horizon]

That's what makes him certified.

[late condor]

I just don’t like “getting all achievements” having the same meaning as a 100% completion, as the latter implies seeing all the game has to offer.

I don’t mean to shift the blame for the misconception on the players, but devs never claimed that achievements guarantee a 100%, yk?

[late condor]

I am realistic about it, and I understand that no matter how many Reddit posts with comparisons I make and how much I convince people here and anywhere else that it’s better to go with the original release, some will inevitably have their first experience with EE. So I’d rather those people have a more decent experience. And many people who play it on console don’t have an option to switch even if they wanted do.

Also really funny to argue with people, one person on Reddit was saying that “my information was outdated and 1.3 fixed everything” and I was like “my brother in Christ I provided many of those fixes”.

It’s still got a long way ahead to be on pars with originals imo, let alone an enhanced version. It’s no longer a dumpster fire that it was on release. But it’s still a meh release, and if you have the choice, why settle for mediocrity.

[verbal tartan]

I honestly support any bug report you have for it

But sadly I can't get around the muddy look

Maybe it takes time to be comfortable with, but every time I boot up CoP EE, which is the one that looks the best (comparatively to OG CoP at least), I feel that muddyness all over the grass and trees, which is the most prominent thing on the game

[sly ember]

is the area in Clear sky where it says find a way into CNPP the end of the game?

[late condor]

It’s penultimate location yes. Lymansk is the point of no return.

[agile jetty]

EE is a direct continuation of LOTZ. So all its changes remain, even the inability to throw bolts and grenades. Those who say “EE is a console port” are wrong, because LOTZ exists on PC, just not for us players, since we have the original.

EE has probably become genuinely better now. But all the bugs that exist there are engine problems, which we, as modders, cannot fix.

[torpid rapids]

yep, still a person can claim they 100% a game when seeing only half so your argument is valid

[lyric garnet]

im sorry this is just incorrect

that place is straight up evil

the ugliest most anxiety inducing scariest worst place in the entire zone, i never want to go to yantar unless i have to for a quest

i have never went to yantar just because

[fast salmon]

have you been to the red forest

[fast salmon]

seems like u proved my point you managed to kill everything without a problem

[fast salmon]

thats @lyric garnet soon as he reaches garbage coz hes a rookie stalker

[karmic horizon]

This is in the Red Forest in winter.

[fast salmon]

i know it was a joke about him being a rookie

[lyric garnet]

don't ever put such disrespect on my name brother i got a FT-200M and full AP mag

[lyric garnet]

SoC red forest or CS red forest? SoC red forest is scary but not as much as Yantar. But you're propably right about CS red forest, bad bad place to be

[fast salmon]

still a rookie that tuna gun will break if u drop it or hit someone with a buttstock

but red forest in SoC is an error name its still just radar and i was talking about CS

btw the VSS and its varients are for pros

or Groza-1/ 4

groza 1 shoots 762x39 its an experimental gun

4 just used 9x39

[lyric garnet]

zombies fix my stuff

[frosty radish]

Yantar is fine tbh

[lyric garnet]

NO!

[frosty radish]

The factory is only bad when there’s a controller

A few zombies never scared anyone

[tawdry cargo]

Real, i love Yantar. One of my favourite areas

[torpid rapids]

spooky scary skeletons

[torpid rapids]

shout out all my zombified homies

[muted notch]

i have a clear camp mission in SOC, and i finished it, but it keeps failing at a specific time (23:09)...Why??? Do missions have a hidden time limit?

[verbal tartan]

I think most if not all side quests have a time limit, yeah

[muted notch]

[verbal tartan]

how is the quest exactly called btw? so as to google it's limit

[muted notch]

Kill two bandits or something

[verbal tartan]

who gave it to you

[muted notch]

Sidorovich

[verbal tartan]

1 day limit apparently

[muted notch]

Pain, nothing but pain

Now I know to complete side quests ASAP tho

[verbal tartan]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_optional_missions_in_Shadow_of_Chernobyl
Here you have the info for all of them btw

although some have "citation/source needed" so be sure that at least 1 is wrong

[muted notch]

Ty

[verbal tartan]

May 2013 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

How long have you played

Can the engine even run after that long

[light shuttle]

Tejas is a stalkerfan since 2007, he played more the trilogy or any stalkermod that he tried than every other stalker.

[verbal tartan]

That checks out, yeah

Cause holy shit, those are some crazy dates

[karmic horizon]

Game starts May 1st, 2012, and that is the PDA on May 1st, 2013.
That is the date I waited, before entering Pripyat for the first time.

[verbal tartan]

And how many hours is that

Or well, actually, how many do you have in soc overall

It just seemed crazy to me, I think the most I had was 30th may 2012 in a normal playthrough, iirc

[karmic horizon]

I don't know. This is not the digital game.
One day in SoC is 2 hours and 24 minutes.
That would be 144 minutes each day x 365,
52,560 divided by 60 minutes = 876 hours irl.
So this game was 876 hours before Pripyat.
My first game of CoP was over 880 hours.

The formula for the trilogy is 1 hour irl = 10 hours in the games.

[verbal tartan]

A lot of hours lol

[torpid rapids]

So uh

I sold the bulldog from bloodsucker village and ended up completing the hole in the wall quest. Did I completely softlock my game?

[late condor]

It’s not a hidden limit it’s a disclosed limit

It’s in your pda at all times

[verbal tartan]

"completing the hole in the wall quest" cam you be a bit more specific pls? I honestly don't know what you mean lol

[verbal tartan]

Also yeah, forgot to say this ^^

[night iron]

I need help

I am stuck in clear sky in my saving and now my screen says "Client: Synchronizing..." And i have waited minutes by minutes niw

Especially, After i got 50k rubles from clear Sky factions, And i am now staying at Duty faction because i am preparing for Yinmard, Now i come back and "Client: Synchronizing"

Also, It's Stalker clear Sky, No pirate, no enhanced, original from 2008

I try some solutions on google, but nothing helps

[verbal tartan]

Have you done any change to the game, via files, mods, settings, etc, before this happened?

Or even your pc settings or smth, idk

[late condor]

Save corrupted :(

[night iron]

I try some solutions on google, but nothing helps

[late condor]

Hard to say what is causing this exactly

This is not solvable, as in you can’t fix your saves, you have to load an earlier one.

And that one may already be mid-corruption too

[verbal tartan]

There is save corruption in cs?

💀

[late condor]

There are many sources of save corruption in all stalker games

Some hardware dependant, some controllable some not

Asking a squad leader for work 65535 times will brick your game for example

[verbal tartan]

Damn

[night iron]

Well, I tried like Changing the setting to lower, I make a new game and it seems fine, then i come back, happens again. I remove save then i let it download a new one, still the same.
Wait- I remembered
I changed the keybind Yesterday, Adding Extra button for me to Use the grenade launcher for ak-74/2

[verbal tartan]

Well, if it is like surdno said, then it might not be any of that the problem

What I can do, if it works, is to give you a save of mine

Thing is that, even tho I played vanilla a lot, I also used SRP a lot lol

But I can try if you want

It'll have to be later because power in my house is out

[night iron]

that's fine, i'll figure it out

Also, Thanks to my bro in college

I have to say i just found a nuclear survival game hidden gem

After i finished shadow of chernobyl

I wanna say "this is more worth spending than fall out ngl so that i don't have to spend so much time to Choose between maxing Rizz or maxing luck"

[verbal tartan]

It is a really good trilogy, yeah

With flaws of course, but the highs beat the lows

[night iron]

Anyways, I am trying to fix a few things like maybe put everything in default or something

[verbal tartan]

Actually, @night iron

[verbal tartan]

And even then...

Thats why I offered my saves hehe

[night iron]

seriously though

I am Very close to the Yinmard now. And getting into this situation is pain in my Lord

[late condor]

The games are amazing but they are a bit janky :)

Entire clear sky was developed from start to finish in a little over a year

[night iron]

I just need to be prepared, and the god damn Grenade launcher just hurts my god damn a-

[late condor]

Lots of content was added literally last month (a month before release build there were no stash contents, all stashes had a medkit)

And some quests was even added post-release

It was done in an extreme rush so it’s not well polished, but it’s a gem yeah

[night iron]

Ok, Another try, load the past one, seems fine, Now back to latest one, Again, frozen

Ok, It's not helping, I tried a mod like spr, but then still not helping, Instead, when i click on a save game, my game instant crash and kick me out

[verbal tartan]

Yeah, cause its corrupted

And you cant really know when it started to be like that

[night iron]

man my hours of works there qwq

[verbal tartan]

Unless there are hints that I dont know about

Just give me time (idk how much) until power comes back and I'll send you saves hehe. Lets hope that makes it work

Oh, and I think SRP even requires new game

Yep, it requires new game

[torpid rapids]

Nevermind, I found a way to fix it.

It was the hole in the wall quest. I had to reload an earlier save to get the bulldog from freedoms armory first before coming back to do the hole in the wall quest. For some reason when I did the hole in the wall quest first, it wouldn't let me in the armory.

[verbal tartan]

Ah, it was literally called hole in the wall lol

I thought it had another name

[night iron]

WAIT! I REMEMBERED SOMETHING!

I need to test this out!

THE AUTOSAVE BEFORE LIKE SOME MINUTES BEFORE THE EMISSION STILL WORKS!!!

[grizzled rock]

davidthedemonproto has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[night iron]

IT WORKS! IT FINALLY WORKS! HOLY CRAP IT WORKS

Next time when i save, Double check by going back to the saved game before i leave

[graceful horizon]

Autosave to the rescue

[night iron]

actually here's what happened

So... i made a huge mistake.
I made a new gameplay and the starting of the Autosave just got replaced

[graceful horizon]

[night iron]

HOWever, Since i test it by installing the game to other drive, suddenly the past one still remains the autosave that didn't get replace

so i bring that to the new one, replace all the save, and that auto save is the time before the emission before i went trading with some duty guys, which just some minutes from the corrupted save

and done, i was sweating hard

now i am close to end game after Yinmard now

Anyways, In other hand, I joined Loner, because a quest made me and the artifact that father loner can reward me so i joined the loner for Extra stuffs

[fast salmon]

anyone know how to get out of the map of dark valley

[verbal tartan]

Have you finished x18?

If yes, go down

[night iron]

My question is... How

[karmic horizon]

Not sure if you are asking how to someone else or to the last post.

[night iron]

How are you in the middle of the bandits, and the map doesn't register them as Neutral

[karmic horizon]

It does. If you click on the screenshot, you can see the yellow star for the squad leader.
They are standing so close to me, the two yellow dots for the others are with my white dot.

[night iron]

Hah i see them now

[lyric garnet]

how do i force barkeep to start selling me rounds for my VSS? i swear he was selling them on my last playthru

[graceful horizon]

You can reset trader inventories by quicksaving and quickloading

But ifnhe refuses to sell what you want you might not be far enough in the story

[fast salmon]

i realise the stash must be in X18 and the whole map thing is me being stupid

but im trying to join the bandits so i need to steal the dcuments from barkeep and bring them to borov

[ivory root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274395001547264131/1432382954977493172/togif.gif

[late condor]

what

[verbal tartan]

Radiophobia

99% sure its a feature from that mod

[fast salmon]

it is

but its hard to join the bandits they constantly die on the mission to get the debt for borov

[lyric garnet]

guys, am i screwed if i want to get the sniper vla from the voronin mission but the murk guy you kill in the mission is already dead? i heard something about the freedomers respawning if you throw their bodies into a vortex but does it work even when the main guy is already dead?

also, where is the nearest vortex anomaly lol? i wanna try to dispose of the bodies in case i'm not screwed

NVM i found one

[lyric garnet]

ok the mission works even if murk dies on his own, just gotta destroy the bodies of his friends and new friends will come to the village and voronin will ask you to kill them

[night iron]

I just finished Stalker clear sky

And It was smooth, except there was a bug. And this bug is only in the spoiler part

[night iron]

But... I think it make sense, and sorry to say this

Shadow of Chernobyl is better and they make clear Sky as prequel makes a lot of sense

[verbal tartan]

Sorry for what, you are saying facts only

[night iron]

I know, I just don't want this Special developer down because they all have one thing in common

The soldier AI is too smart, sometimes they get a bit stupid, but sometimes, they gave me back shot at the back of my heads

And they know tactics better than Call of duty and Fall out stealth where you just crouch with sneak 100 and they go "Wait- Where did he go?" while standing right in front of them

My fav is Shot awareness, In some games, When miss, they either just ignore, or just follow the noise.
But in Stalker, When the miss is close, they know someone was shooting them as they no longer are in the unaware state which 1 shot kill and instantly move to Hostile stage where Take more to kill

Anyways, Question, There is a mod called Gunslinger, And the developer behind it is helping stalker 2 now right?

[torpid rapids]

Any tips for dealing with the millions of monolith soldiers without losing my sanity and money on armor.

[night iron]

Headshota

And grenades

[verbal tartan]

Which part and game

[night iron]

question to some of you who would reply to this question

what is your favourite Faction in the whole trilogy? Why? and do you want to be in that faction?

[torpid rapids]

duty for sure man, the other one that comes close is ecologist and hell yeah i would like to join either of them.. why? well i think since we know the true origin of the exclusion zone, we need to contain it and then study everything about it

[charred prism]

egghead goes to univesity, gets put on the exclusion zone as a internship

[torpid rapids]

it should become free at some point but only when its under control and save to travel, the artifacts should be analyzed for sure

contain the zone, contain the emissions, purge the mutants and gather artifacts for study

the ecologists are also one of my choices because im not to keen on dying. i would rather contract other people to do dirty work for me with government funds

and also, artifacts themself are revolutionary in my opinion.. they deserve throughout studies rather than being used to keep the black market going

[charred prism]

so you didnt actually answer the question, the eggheads arent a faction

[torpid rapids]

i answered

my first sentence says that i would join duty or ecologists

and eggheads are a faction?

[charred prism]

they are government sanctioned scientists working inside the zone, they arent stalkers nor a faction

you dont join the scientists, you get send to the zone

[torpid rapids]

me and the wiki disagree

so to end it, i would join either duty or ecologists

[charred prism]

yhea the most trustable place in the whole internet

[night iron]

I prefer to stay as Loner.
Just trying to live, to get good artifacts either for profits or protection.
I know the Zone is inevitable.
But what i always try to avoid is Ideology war.
My only faction war is the war of survival, between a group of rookies who just went out to survive in the Zone, and a group who just loves to kill and commit criminals for short term profits.
That's also my life irl

Just to live for another lucky day

[torpid rapids]

whats the point of temporary riches

[light shuttle]

Loner is not a faction🤧

[night iron]

Hah ok, Loner is not a Faction

Kinda like a Faction, But not a factions, got it

I was a out to say about Clear sky until i watch a Video about clear Sky again and I found out they suck.

[warped marsh]

[night iron]

Simply because it's a dead factions

[warped marsh]

[night iron]

Spoiler alert: ||After we kill Strelok in clear sky, The whole faction in the zone died||

[warped marsh]

[night iron]

However... He was mentioned again in call of pripyat and in some theory on youtube people say, Lebedev didn't quite die but more like he worked in the middle of the zone again, in the middle of anomalies to make a new project called "C-consciousness"

Freedom is full of... Eh- I mean they do study the Zone but they make things like "Welcome to the Zone tour, we have the mutants wandering around, Pseudo dogs who loves to eat anything" and more like that

Duty is more to saving people, by killing more people

And Loner maybe a faction, but more like. rookie people who just joined the place, and i like to stay that way

While i heard some people like to Join Bandit because they are interestingly evil.

But i got mugged plenty of times so i pulled the "Call an ambulance but not for me" move

That's why i stay as Loner

it's not because It's hard or Complicated.
But more to avoiding conflicts and live as a normal people who Get decenf income to live another day

Freedom is pretty Friendly and Duty is pretty helpful.
But if i join Freedom, i can become enemy to both Duty and Loners because Duty is a faction who save Loners and stalkers, And if i join Duty, Freedom can get pretty hostile and things wouldn't go well, Losing men over ideas seem to be not my taste, So i stay in between as a Stalker

[light shuttle]

Lebedev, Beanpolev and Suslov are ex-member of the Project C-Counsciousness

[night iron]

YES! THAT'S THE ONE

[light shuttle]

Not everyone:
Nimble and Novikov still are alive and in 2010 there ideas about see Beanpolev and Suslov once more + a small group of Clear Sky in the zone that the player can help

the player would help suslov, beanpolev and novikov with certain quests, more interesting than certain slop concept

[night iron]

So they still exist

[late condor]

Not of the project C-Consciousness but of X-labs in general

They are a part of a scientific group transferred to X7 to study noosphere but we don’t know their positions

[late condor]

In HoC they went with faction annihilation, in S2 2011 they wanted to keep it alive.

[light shuttle]

In HoC Clear Sky it's dead, we just have info of that perhaps people like Beanpolev or suslov will be keep alive.
In S2 was planned see a group of remnants.
In CoP u can suppose that some characters of CS base still are alive, besides of novikov and nimble.

[torpid rapids]

maan i wish i was able to quote this shit but im drunk af

[torpid rapids]

i would swap monolith with mercs

they knowingly do the bidding of murdering people for material gains, monolith soldiers are evil, sure but they’re being held against their will

[spiral lynx]

Clear sky is good good

We are the best

[warped marsh]

I lobe Clear Sky

[graceful horizon]

I lobe Clear

[indigo ore]

Wachu got growing

[indigo ore]

I lobetomized Cleer

[graceful horizon]

He had it coming

Infinitely more tolerable now

[indigo ore]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-shaquille-oneal-nba-on-tnt-nba-unamused-gif-24010855

He had it cumming?

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-shocked-say-what-stare-what-gif-17046156

@graceful horizon

https://tenor.com/view/confused-dont-get-it-explain-this-to-me-like-im-five-michael-scott-gif-14068014

[graceful horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/mad200-heavy-tf2-percentage-rage-gif-16820921

[indigo ore]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-breathtaking-itstommylove-stalker-stalker-2-honest-gif-3376286146451265334

[frosty radish]

im on stalker cop and ive made 450k rubles 😭 The major should just leave the army and become a stalker

I haven't reached X8 yet

[verbal tartan]

CoP moment

[frosty radish]

20 hours into it, I've just been doing side quests so I'm coming to X8 with pretty much fully upgraded exoskeleton, vss, shotgun and sniper

[fast salmon]

the whole game is built on side quests and little story

[frosty radish]

I like stalker cop's story thusfar compared to clear sky

[frosty radish]

What’s the armour strelok is wearing in the final cutscene of SoC? The black one with green plating

[graceful horizon]

Seva without screen helmet

[frosty radish]

Cool, thank you

[fast salmon]

Its just a PS5M suit they look like SEVAs but they dont have helm

[brave sierra]

fucmk

[copper sand]

bro got sent to heaven

[karmic horizon]

Just the flesh.

[copper sand]

Nah see, bullets kill the flesh, but explosives kill the soul.

[whole geyser]

how it feels to chew 5 gum

[frosty radish]

im getting horrible luck with artefacts in stalker CoP

no shell or snowflakes, just batteries (but 99% of the time its a sparkler I get)

[fast salmon]

are those mamas beads

[karmic horizon]

Yes 3.

[frosty radish]

were clear sky|| secretly agents of the c-conscioness? Lebedev was a part of the group at some point||

[humble crescent]

According to S2 lore, Lebedev, Kalancha and Suslov ||received orders from c-con. They knew that Scar was c-con's sleeping agent and convinced him to start chasing Strelok. Ordinary clear sky members were pawns and died for nothing.||

[frosty radish]

||Scar was c-con? woah, I doubt he knew that himself though, its meant to be subconscious right? Good thing I won't listen to S2||

[light shuttle]

No

[rigid ravine]

Is it worth trying to kill the two burers in the X8 lab in Pripyat in CoP?

[light shuttle]

No, In the trilogy Ledebev, Beanpolev and Suslov are ex-members of the projects of the noosphere, if they was formal C-Con members at the times of CS u fuqk the entire plot and lacks of sense.

[scenic echo]

How do you throw grenades in Shadow of chernobyl enhanced edition?

I have a small hoard of them, but theres no dedicated key from what i see, and i cannot allocate them into quick access slots

the game does not let me

[frosty radish]

dont you just love how S2 interacts with the rest of the series?

[light shuttle]

HoC fuqk almost everything, i don't care much about CoP, but how interact with SoC or CS (or even how don't interact with lore pre-existent and concepts from these two) is mostly and certainly lame.

[frosty radish]

HoC is like the fallout 4 and 76 of stalker, its better to ignore it

oh and the tv show, I hate everything it does to the story of fallout everytime they do something

I have yet to finish CoP, I don't think I'll play HoC unless I get it for very cheap

[light shuttle]

in lore questions, yes, is better avoid it.
The only writter that i know that tried to have consistency with the trilogy was the ex-level designer of Garbage since 2020 until 2022, andrey khoklov or smth, he said that he talked with Maria grigorovich about that and she said "is a new game, duuuhhh" (smth like that)

[frosty radish]

its a shame seeing everyone glaze it 😭

[light shuttle]

Not at all, is not soooo bad as "complete game"

[frosty radish]

GSC can't even use the war as an excuse tbh since they aren't headquarted in Ukraine, right?

Prague, no?

[light shuttle]

i would post the interview where khoklov said that but is from BK

[scenic echo]

anyone?

[scenic echo]

^

[frosty radish]

idk, I don't bother with the "enhanced" edition

[scenic echo]

alright, is there anyone else here that can be a little mroe helpful?

[verbal tartan]

isn't 4 the key?

check keybinds on keyboard

[scenic echo]

nope

4 does nothign at all

i checked all the binds, there isnt one lsited for grenades

[verbal tartan]

try dropping all of them and picking them up

sometimes it bugs out

[frosty radish]

Sorry I can't be of help, I just have zero experience with it

[verbal tartan]

I have a big help for you: play the original XDXDXDXD

[frosty radish]

Just hit a million rubles in CoP, check it out in the screenshots channel

[bleak plinth]

Anybody know if I should play oblivion lost or lost alpha first? Or does it not matter

[verbal tartan]

I would recommend Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5 first

Lost Alpha seems pretty infamous, mostly nowadays

if you like it, go for it of course
but it takes a lot of liberties from the design documents (OLR too, but much less, and there's less backtracking)

[light shuttle]

By buildo faithful:
Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5

After go with Vector of Alienation

[bleak plinth]

thanks u stookers

[spice schooner]

Does anyone know how to use the demo record without the red interface on? For reee cam?

[verbal tartan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1gsibdn/demo_record_help/

Maybe this helps

I think pressing enter helps too, idr

[verbal tartan]

Actually, nvm, check this: https://steamcommunity.com/app/4500/discussions/0/2242175653307641066/

[spice schooner]

Amazing Gordon will give this a go

[frosty radish]

Me when the weather lady says clear sky (clearly a stalker reference)

[elder iris]

Is that a Stalker reference?

[verbal tartan]

Might be!

[frosty radish]

definetely

[torpid rapids]

Guys where can i find Freedom is SoC

[humble crescent]

Army warehouses

[fast salmon]

THE USUAL PLACE

[fickle pendant]

warehouses

they respawn if you go far enough forward into red forest and come back

theyre also littered around red forest I believe because theyre keeping a perimeter vs monolith

havent played in a year

[late condor]

Someone stole your hud

[verbal tartan]

The Man Who Sold The HUD

[quartz scarab]

henlo

i am new to stalker, and i plan on playing it after i finish up the last dlcs for metro exodus

should I install any unofficial patches, like bethesda games?

also, what order do you play the games in? thats always confused me

[late condor]

No mods for first playthrough

You play SoC->CS->CoP

If you are on PC, play originals and not enhanced editions

[quartz scarab]

whats the difference between original and enhanced? other than achievements

[verbal tartan]

Graphical differences and some russian imaginery taken out of the game, maybe 3 QoL changes and the engine has multithreadding

The thing is that it introduces new bugs, and the graphics changes, although welcomed, look muddy as hell because of the AI upscaling and the antialiasing

They look better now that at launch, but still

So yeah, play the originals, as intented
Then judge for yourself if they are good

[frosty radish]

censorship, ai and some new bugs, honestly the originals aren't that bad, they still hold up today

[frosty radish]

Deadly anomalies, dangerous mutants and bandits, none will stop duty on its triumphant march towards saving the innocent

[graceful horizon]

-# you're forgetting the anarchists

[verbal tartan]

DONT FORGET THE ANARCHISTS

[graceful horizon]

Too late, they're here now

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-shadow-of-chernobyl-monolith-grenade-toilet-bathroom-gif-16805707855488103914

[frosty radish]

"anarchists and bandits"? I couldn't remember the full line

[graceful horizon]

Anarchists and bandits is correct

[frosty radish]

its been a while since ive played SoC

[frosty radish]

https://youtu.be/Djk15Ve3JHE

[karmic horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djk15Ve3JHE

[frosty radish]

I wonder why mine didn't work 🤔

[verbal tartan]

No image perms

[frosty radish]

makes sense

[verbal tartan]

Tejas likes to repost stuff others cant properly send

Which is kinda sweet actually

[placid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-true-cowpoke-pooner-qianlong-gif-3827914201118197286

daaaamn thats crazy no embedded perms

[verbal tartan]

Theres on #🔩┃trilogy_modifications and #📸┃trilogy-screenshots , so go wild there ig

[unkempt citrus]

Hello guys, I am new to the stalker experience. I played a little bit of Gamma, although not throughly, and I tried Stalker 2 on release which was pretty fun. I never finished any of the games and I want to play the trilogy first, I am currently on SOC and I have installed AMK (newest ver) with AA 2.1, do you think this is a good experience to enjoy the game without adding too much and getting to know the story for a First Time Playthrough?

I've tried Radiophobia 3 but it is a lot and not really vanilla, and I also tried AA 2.1 on it's own but I heard AMK is better.

If this is the wrong channel to ask this question please let me know and I'll delete/repost.

[regal pasture]

I guess you can talk about this in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

But not a big deal

[verbal tartan]

1. this channel is ok, dw
2. good that you switched off from radiophobia. I get why some like it, but I honestly couldn't care less about it, especially for a first playthrough
3. well, personally at least, the only mods I would use are bug fixes ones. Im one of those that like (or hate) old games for what they are. I first play them, then judge them for how well (or badly) made they are, and then mod them. So, imo, it wasnt the best thing you could've done, but, amk is really good in itself, and AA afaik only changes graphics. So yeah, if you want a "vanilla+ experience", this is good. I think the story is untouched

[verbal tartan]

Too late

Now, if you like SoC and want to continue with CS and CoP, I have some recommendations:
For CS, you can play vanilla and not have game breaking bugs, so dont worry. But if you really dont like the bugs, SRP can be decent.
There's also Sky Renewal Mod that changes graphics and guns

For CoP, vanilla is almost 0 bugs, I havent seen one in any of my 3 playthroughs. But, the IX-Ray engine brings CoP to a better engine, and looks absolutely fantastic.

[unkempt citrus]

Thank you very much. My plan is to play the trilogy, then play some Gamma, and then Stalker 2 when more mods are released (if it even needs mods to make it better). I'm guessing I don't need to play Gamma after the trilogy, and can go to 2 and then back to Gamma?

Overall, I do want the vanilla + experience but I do not want it to change too many things, I guess you could say I want the game to look and feel better, but essentially be the same story/experience, so would you say AMK is the best option for me?

[unkempt citrus]

I for sure would love to play the next games, I am really enjoying SOC so far, both AMK and AA 2.1 were good, but I am now just running the latest AMK after trying both.

[verbal tartan]

If you like gamma, yeah, you can go back to it. Of course you'll have some lore missing, but I dont think you play gamma for the lore, do you?
I dont think the mod even cares about it either, which is fine.

Then yeah, what I recommended is great for a vanilla+.

I would say amk with AA (even AMK alone) is really good yeah, I'd say you'll enjoy it.

I also have a modpack made by a stalker enthusiastic, its basically SoC on the OGSR engine, but its pretty vanilla. Mostly changes graphics to keep the artistic intent, but adds repairs and a couple of QoL stuff, as well as new guns animations and all the advantages of the ogsr engine. If you want, I can give the link. You try it and decide which one suits you more

[verbal tartan]

Glad you are liking it a lot. AMK is peak vanilla+ afaik

[unkempt citrus]

I would appreciate that, and would for sure try it out. Might as well before I dive too deep 😄

Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions, this is more helpful than just searching reddit.

[verbal tartan]

Might as well go to #🔩┃trilogy_modifications just in case

[charred prism]

AMK is not Vanilla+

[verbal tartan]

why am I like this.......

[charred prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188461429683134565/1311348835947122708/dalinlike.gif

[verbal tartan]

idk man, I just see "adds a lot of cool changes without changing the story" and to me thats vanilla+

maybe because I cant speak deeply of their changes its why I consider it like that

[charred prism]

it makes sweeping gameplay changes

[verbal tartan]

I guess you'll have to play that mod I sent you then

Damn, I'm good at marketing

[thin canyon]

hey guys

[unkempt citrus]

What kind of sweeping gameplay changes?

[charred prism]

I assum youre using AMK1.4? theres a bunch of forks

advertising servers is not allowed

[thin canyon]

mb

[unkempt citrus]

Got it, I am going to try out that OGSR pack Gordan gave me, it's literally just new engine, new weapons and graphics alongside ZRP. Should be more vanilla like than AMK 1.4

And yes I was using the latest version of AMK

[charred prism]

OGSR makes changes to the story and gameplay

are you talking about the engine or mod?

[unkempt citrus]

I believe the modpack he posted is just the engine, it doesn't say anything about quests and story in the readme.

[charred prism]

ha a modpack

[verbal tartan]

it's pretty vanilla, dw

[charred prism]

I was talking about the mod, confusing naming scheme

[verbal tartan]

I've played it and the story is the exact same. Mostly graphical changes, some other changes on consistency between all 3 titles (guns and suits) and other nice stuff

it's made by Shen btw

[unkempt citrus]

I'm gaming on 4k with a 4070 you think I can run MAX 😄

Lol

[verbal tartan]

you are good with 60+ fps?

I have a 4060 laptop, 1080p, at max I have like 120 fps, and I don't even squeeze the most out of my cpu

but, well, my cpu is an i9-13900h, so of course I can run it well hehe

[fast salmon]

that dude just dropped a virus on my pc bruh

i clicked it is shadow installed a tiny file great

[verbal tartan]

what

[whole geyser]

?

[grizzled rock]

chingbillin420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[unkempt citrus]

ultimately decided to actually play Autumn Aurora 2.1, AMK has changes I didn't really think I needed and AA2.1 is basically the most vanilla+ experience you can get

currently progressing through the game

I do appreciate your help though

[frosty radish]

I wouldn’t play first time with mods tbh

[frosty radish]

CS can probably benefit from the SRP, but CoP is just right

[late condor]

aa is very meh

[fast salmon]

cap the game is great with mods if u only want it to fit modern day standards but things like misery and other game mechanic changing mods shouldnt be used on first playhtrough

[frosty radish]

You don't need mods to enjoy a game, you should play it how the devs meant for it to be first

[fast salmon]

I have but i wont discourage using mods to make the guns look up to date with todays standards

[frosty radish]

“Todays standards” doesn’t matter, we get spoiled now anyways

[late condor]

^

It’s a game of a certain time period. Stalker is not just its story, it’s the work of many different people who worked on its audio and visuals.

You’re simply getting the wrong experience.

[verbal tartan]

if I could play System Shock 1 in 2024, you can play a 2007 fps

you just got to change some views of yours, and then you'll properly enjoy every game released before 2010 no problem

[faint wasp]

i can't rememeber if it was 2023 or 24 when i played the Stalker trilogy on PC. might have been both.

all i used mods wise was ZRP i think it was called.

[unkempt citrus]

Sorry I wasn't gaming on PC around the time of Stalker's release, regardless I don't think any of that matters. If the devs made Stalker for the first time today in 2025, it would look similar to it with mods.

[faint wasp]

did i have issues? yeah, did i have fun? yeah.

[unkempt citrus]

I don't see how making the game look better will affect the overall message the devs were trying to convey lol.

[verbal tartan]

it was called like that, yeah

[verbal tartan]

of course it doesn't really matter in the grand schemes of things and etc. But well, they worked hard to get all that work done so it looked like it looks today. So when you play it, you either appreciate it, or not

I'm not saying that not liking it is wrong btw, thats why opinions are a thing

thats why mods exist, to change the game so it follows your liking

[unkempt citrus]

brother I have looked at almost every modpack and the only one I see so far that doesn't change the gameplay enough to make it not vanilla is AA2.1 - you can also tweak it and delete certain things. The other vanilla modpacks barely have anything just ZRP

[verbal tartan]

also, I wasn't gaming on PC back then either, I fully started playing on like 2017

[unkempt citrus]

I do appreciate the design and overall development of the game, I'm just a person coming from Tarkov and watching videos of Gamma and what not, I really fell in love with that style and look and wanted to play the originals like that, but then I started to think hey maybe I should do vanilla instead of some heavy mods. Which also got me thinking, what if I could make the game look better but not change too much so I get both worlds?

[verbal tartan]

yeah thats why I recommended that ogsr modpack, at least to my liking it's like SoC but modernized

but yeah, theres also AA and stuff

[late condor]

But stalker ain’t just its gameplay and story.

And even then, AA does change gameplay drastically

It rebalances the gunplay and it adds emissions is what I can recall off the bat

[verbal tartan]

I would recommend you surdno to play the one I posted earlier, but considering it's got ZRP, I don't think you'll like it

I do get what you say and I agree with it, but I know that there are people who just don't care about it and kind of want to plug and play a modern looking game

[unkempt citrus]

So do you think playing Gordon's recommended mod pack is better than AA? It's basically Vanilla Stalker but with the new engine

And I am most likely not going to play SOC again because I will be busy with CS, COP, and then Gamma or 2

[late condor]

I’d not call even ZRP “basically vanilla” as it’s packed with changes

[verbal tartan]

the one Shen used has some stuff removed

I think he left the subtitles, the bed, and 1 more thing

[unkempt citrus]

Optional quality-of-life features
Post-game content: Allows players to continue playing after the main story ends and adds new level changes and autosaves.
Gameplay mechanics: Includes optional features like weapon and armor repair, sleeping, and the ability to skip unwanted side quests.
Information and rewards: Shows players the reward for a side task before they accept it and makes reading secrets more interesting.
Fast travel: Adds the ability to fast-travel between levels.

These are the only changes ZRP does to the game, that are more so QOL then changes. And they can be disabled.

[verbal tartan]

but well, those hardcoded are still there

guides arent a thing in there, thats for sure (or at least I remember them not being there)

[unkempt citrus]

so do you think the modpack you gave me is more vanilla than AA2.1

What exactly does the new engine do ?

[verbal tartan]

personally, it is, and looks better than AA

[verbal tartan]

multithreadding, 64bit, has SSS features (or some of them)

like those little water puddles on the floor when raining

and you can run sideways

[unkempt citrus]

LMFAO is that vanilla sir

[verbal tartan]

Well, no, you can't run diagonally hehe

[unkempt citrus]

can that be disabled

[verbal tartan]

no, but idk why you would

that seems more like an limitation/feature they didn't code instead of an artistic choice

like, in vanilla you can only run forward. in the ogsr one, you run forward and can run diagonally

[late condor]

I ain’t talking about optional, ZRP “fixes” stuff that ain’t bugs, many gameplay and balance changes

[verbal tartan]

there's some boxes on garbage that zrp deletes for example, for no reason

I actually don't know if shen added them back, let me check (later)

[late condor]

Eg there was wrong text mentioning another weapon as reward, ZRP changes the actual reward to fit that

[fast salmon]

It depends on the mods see i only use mods that keep the game vanilla + meaning the game stays the same but some graphics are tweaked like weapons and 64x and 4k textures although 2k is also good but what i love about the OGs is the game doesnt really need graphics enhancers for the world or terrain since most of the details are very ahead of its time such as bump mapping

[unkempt citrus]

Which mods would you recommend? You have a list?

[fast salmon]

For CoP I use AO3, with atomosfear 3 and absolute nature 3 and absolute structures

[verbal tartan]

The mod is called ||ggs git gud||

[fast salmon]

atmosfear isnt really vanilla tho weathers are cool but it adds different types of emissions theoretically making the game a bit harder but also u can hide in any building unlike base game where it gives u a marker to stand in

[verbal tartan]

Actually, I have a better one: IX-Ray engine

[unkempt citrus]

What about for SOC, its my first time 😄

[verbal tartan]

Its 1 single thing, and its the xray engine but improved

The game looks and runs great

[unkempt citrus]

Will X RAY FIX THE BUGS

[fast salmon]

i dont really think u need any for SoC

Its my favourite game out of the series i grew up with it vanilla

but if im going to use any id use vanilla stalker overhaul

[fast salmon]

the game is build on xray

[unkempt citrus]

Will take a look

It just looks so booty pure vanilla like the guns sound weird lol MAN f*** I'll try it

[fast salmon]

VSO adds modern weapon models while making the game look more scary good luck not getting PTSD

[fast salmon]

How do i download that

[verbal tartan]

Download game build (engine and assets) https://github.com/ixray-team/ixray-1.6-stcop/releases

Put over CoP game folder. Then open the game through steam

[verbal tartan]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications message
If you want to check the differences on how they look and run

[fast salmon]

is there any mods i can put over it?

[verbal tartan]

That, I dont know. But they have a discors if you want to ask there

A couple of mods are being ported, even being developed, in that engine

I think Spatial Anomaly 2 is there. I think

[unkempt citrus]

What would you recommend I do for optional mods in the pack to go as much pure vanilla as possible in terms of gameplay

[fast salmon]

theres no english channels lol

[fast salmon]

whats the options>

[fast salmon]

join vc

[unkempt citrus]

Can't atm im in my discord but

hold on

[lyric garnet]

guys is call of pripyat actually good? i just play for the first time for like 45 minutes and it's kinda not good. i love shadow of chernobyl tho

[verbal tartan]

If you love SoC, I dont think you'll love CoP

Very different from esch other. Msotly focused on side quests and characters

Maybe try a bit more. If its not for you, then dont try it further

[faint wasp]

iirc CoP's guns were nerfed to incentive you to upgrade them more.

[verbal tartan]

I think thats the same for CS. But I dont know the real stats to properly speak about it

[lyric garnet]

thanks, also, is what you see on your pda the entire map? seems kinda small, and is it all poop brown?

[verbal tartan]

You have 3 maps, plus a couple of sections I wont name to avoid spoilers

And most of the time is poop brown. Prypiat is grey. And then those other sections

[verbal tartan]

If you dont love how it looks, you have a nice engine over here

Its still brown poop, but a good poop

And even tho I've spent like 30 minutes in a convo about "just play vanilla bro", I dont care about vanilla here, CoP looks like ass

Well maybe doesnt look like ass, but looks boring as ass

[unkempt citrus]

@verbal tartan @fast salmon I have narrowed it down to AA2.1, VSO, and Memories Of The Zone

Vote NOW which will I choose 😄

[verbal tartan]

Uuuuuh, idk, memories of the zone ig

[unkempt citrus]

I picked MOTZ

[fast salmon]

VSO memories of the zone is ight but not the best although alot of people recommend it i dont really like it

[unkempt citrus]

Why VSO over Mem