⭐┃trilogy-general

[lunar tusk]

If it just says who it can be sold/given to but nothing else then its safe to do that yeah

[static spear]

Thank you 👍

[karmic horizon]

If you know...you know.

[static spear]

I gave nitro the materials he needed and he told me that all repairs and upgrades would be free but they aren't?

Did I just understand it wrong ?

[queen shore]

Are you sure nitro didn't tell you that you would get a discount instead of getting it for free?

[static spear]

He said something along the lines of
"All of my labor is free for my favorite stalker"

[queen shore]

in the pda is shows past dialogue check it out

[static spear]

I quote
"I'll make a note right here: free labor on all repairs and upgrades for my favorite stalker"

[queen shore]

Check out the wiki then

[static spear]

Yea imma do that

Yea ok its only a discount

[lunar tusk]

Free labor still means you get charged for spare parts and other materials

Just means he doesn't charge for his own hourly rate, only what he needs to pay when he buys the materials needed to fix or upgrade stuff

[fast salmon]

how many anomaly fields in CoP give psi damage coz the only one i remember is the scar anomaly but u can get artis from it if u use a stone flower

i now have a moonlight

[lunar tusk]

I dont think there's really anomalies that give it, it's mostly just controllers and burers that do psi damage

Except the scar anomaly and another unmarked anomaly

[fast salmon]

is it the one under outskirts?

[prime rapids]

underskirt?? 😳

[graceful horizon]

No sir

[lunar tusk]

The one related to the scientists missions

[static spear]

Ahhhh I didnt know what labor meant, thx

[fast salmon]

how do i make a the debug menu as a launch options base game

-dbg but if i do it with app properties it wont launch the game is it like a launch option i need to do within steam?

[lunar tusk]

Right click the game in your steam library, select properties and in there you have the launch options under the general tab

Just put -dbg in there

[fast salmon]

i did it lol dw

i figured it was last resort just wanted to make sure morgans PDA dissapeared from my personal lockbox

[late condor]

Free labor but you pay for the materials.

It's more clear in the original, the wording in translations is confusing

[fast salmon]

AI translations are dumb

[static spear]

"Recieved coordinates of a stash that has already been discovered"
Does that mean that I discovered it or another guy?

[fast salmon]

u discovered it

[static spear]

👍

[fast salmon]

its on ur pda

[prime rapids]

just reached my first controller in the wild with radiophobia

I think I've seen enough.

[prime rapids]

aand CoP crashes on game start. Cool! Onto gamma.

[torpid rapids]

what's the updates on the trilogy for? (im on gog.com)

[fast salmon]

ur mods are outdated

[fast salmon]

bug fixes

[glossy hound]

Hi, in Clear Sky Enhanced Edition can I upgrade the exoskeleton to enable running without mods?

[late condor]

No, such as upgrade was only introduced in CoP

[glossy hound]

Okay, thanks

[prime rapids]

You guys seen this shit?
https://youtu.be/WmM-PPKTA8s?si=acfMr2Lk5sLclQcg

Very gimmicky but also very cool imo

[late condor]

Let’s put LLMs absolutely everywhere

[torpid rapids]

How’s cop been coming along? You think it’s better than the other 2 or?

[static spear]

amazing, i really love it. But i think that SoC will just always be my favorite cause of the vibe and atmosphere and well it was my first stalker game experience

It's just a completely diffrent game when you first start it because you don't like really know what can happen or how things work and your imagination just runs wild

[torpid rapids]

Agreed. SoC vibes are great. Especially the humor 😆

[static spear]

I really loved the ambient sounds in SoC

Especially cause of the memes

[torpid rapids]

Pretty much. There’s not really a big story foundation like soc

Something about the game mostly being Ukrainian is great too

[static spear]

A night in the city vs a night in an village

[static spear]

I get what you mean it feels diffrent from an Russian soviet game

[torpid rapids]

Less gloomy and more positive ppl

[static spear]

Ye more humorous definitely

[late condor]

You should try Snowy’s Restoration Addon if/when you’re going to be replaying CoP

Great mod giving CoP the SoC vibes.

[static spear]

Sadly im on ps5 so I have no access to mods

[late condor]

and stuck with EE too, urgh

[light shuttle]

GSC should hire Snowy to port his mods to EE.

[static spear]

Yep, sadly

[rigid swift]

Do I need in Clear Sky all 3 Flash Drives for Limpid to upgrade my Seva Suit (Combat path)? I gave him the drive for the „Spectra Armor Upgrade“ but he can’t do the upgrade.

[static spear]

Is there any way to go back after pripyat in CoP?

Nvm found it

[torpid rapids]

Yes find your squadron and complete a quest or 2 and there will be a guide who shows up

[static spear]

Ok no wonder I didnt find it

Because it didn't exist when I was searching for it lol

I got my tools and now its time to go back to my favorite alcoholic

[torpid rapids]

Yeah also in zaton you can order an exosuit from nimble at the top floor of boat. You can upgrade it to allow sprint.

[static spear]

Thats what I've been waiting for actually

Does he always give the same on or is it luck based

[torpid rapids]

Sleeping 24 hours it will show up

[static spear]

?

[torpid rapids]

Always the same

There’s only one type of exosuit

[static spear]

Ah ok, cause I bought an assault rifle from him and I either got the groza or the ft 200

[static spear]

Ahhhh, damn only one? That's sad

[torpid rapids]

Oh you mean in general yeah it’s random

[torpid rapids]

Yeah but there’s a ton of upgrades for it

[static spear]

Thats true

[torpid rapids]

Make sure to give the calibrating tools for both. If i remember correctly they can do different ones

[static spear]

Btw is the gaus rifle a mission item or why can't I put it away?

[torpid rapids]

You have to bring it to the drunk man to start a quest on repairing it

[static spear]

Damn, I dont really like nitro so I'll stick to cardan

[static spear]

Yea i see it, actually standing in front of Jim rn

[torpid rapids]

He will send you to a lab to find out how to repair it then bring him that info

[static spear]

Yea he just went to sleep after I gave it to him lol

[torpid rapids]

You have to sleep until he wakes up

[static spear]

Yea doing that rn, also for nimble

[torpid rapids]

Remember nimble in CS and SoC?

Dudes been all over

[static spear]

In SoC yes but I didnt really finish CS

[torpid rapids]

Oh he was the guy who told you about faction wars and other tutorials

[static spear]

Ahhh, maybe I just forgot then

Btw do I need battery's for the suit to work or so?

[torpid rapids]

No those are for the Gauss rifle ammo

[static spear]

Ahhh I see

[torpid rapids]

Yeah it one shots people and destroys mutants 😂

[static spear]

Goddamn, so much better than in SoC

Man I can't wait to replay SoC and platinum it

[fast salmon]

Speak to the technician and purchase the "hydraulic amplifiers for servos" upgrade for your suit. this is how u are able to sprint with Exo Suit

[fast salmon]

SoC is honestly my favourite on

[static spear]

@torpid rapids where is zulu after going to pripyat ?

I've read tgat he gives me a lmg or so?

[torpid rapids]

Headed back but disappears from the game for some reason (he doesn’t like the military)

[static spear]

So he's just gone gone ?

[torpid rapids]

Yeah

[static spear]

Awwww, I liked him:(

[light shuttle]

a lot of characters disappears in some point of CoP, +- if u saved people sometimes.

[static spear]

Thats what I usually do, like snag

[light shuttle]

Tho, others characters simply eventually dies on his A-Life life.

[torpid rapids]

I was sad to see him cut from stalker 2

[static spear]

Aww man thats even worse

Btw does stalker 2 have anything to do with the oth3r games? It's coming out on ps5 next month and I've only heard bad things like literally only bad things about it

[torpid rapids]

It does. It’s basically one big sequel

[static spear]

Thats atleast nice to hear

[torpid rapids]

I personally love the game. It’s beautiful, has good gunplay, the story is good for the most part. But factions wars isn’t a big deal or at all in the game. Also the ai still needs to be tweaked a lot.

Really just depends what ur looking for ig.

[static spear]

Factions war as in duty vs freedom or like in CS

[torpid rapids]

Duty vs freedom. It’s instead spark vs ward vs monolith

[static spear]

Are those the only factions in 2?

[torpid rapids]

No it’s still got all the factions they just aren’t as interactive

[static spear]

I see

[torpid rapids]

Highly recommend tho. It’s still a great game.

[static spear]

@torpid rapids btw is your pfp the guy from cry of fear?

[torpid rapids]

Yeah😂

[static spear]

Relatable ngl

[torpid rapids]

Dark ass game with a good message 🙏

[static spear]

Ill definitely play it cause now I actually know what stalker is and I like it

One of a few story games Im actually interested in

[static spear]

Fr🗣💯

Btw what are good artifacts with the exo?

Oh and can I get another oasis artifact after I gave that one away?

[torpid rapids]

Health regen and bleed protection are pretty helpful

[torpid rapids]

No theres just one

[static spear]

👍

[light shuttle]

Has a lot to do with the trilogy, if it's retcons or a logic continuation of the trilogy on some stories.
But, whatever, even Grigorovichs said that HoC it's make for new people, is not necessary play the trilogy for understand it.

Is not a sequel tho, is an soft-reboot or if u think that, an SoC Remake.

[torpid kraken]

i let him not survive on purpose so i can take it

he just flops over and i take zulus loot

[static spear]

I will NOT do thatD:

[static spear]

Actually sounds nice ngl

[ornate rain]

for those of you on Nvidia cards add the game to Nvidia app and use latest DLSS this fixed the jagged antialiasing tree artifacts completely

https://i.imgur.com/taRcKbj.png

[static spear]

@torpid rapids I finished CoP

It is an amazing game but im kinda sad that the old areas such as the 100 rads bar and the very first starting area of SoC wasn't here

[torpid rapids]

Hell yeah. What’d you think?

For real. I wish it was more fleshed out. It’s got a great foundation for it.

[static spear]

In terms of gameplay its definitely the best of all 3

[static spear]

Definitely

And I really liked the whole game being focused on side objectives instead of main missions, even tho I liked linear games more this was refreshing cause you could just do what you wanted to

Also the ending was pretty ok, I liked the SoC ending more

What im still confused about is what happened to strelok between soc and cop

[light shuttle]

On the first concepts of the sequel of SoC was planned that there's levels from Clear Sky and Shadow of Chernobyl.
Like Red Forest and Army Warehouses (with changes), we don't have more information about the "old levels" than these two.

[static spear]

Damn, would have been nice

[light shuttle]

In one desdoc there's a mention of Duty fighting with Freedom on Army Warehouses or smth.

[torpid rapids]

I agree. It had amazing side quests but strelok had already visited the wish granter which is why he decided to seek out the government/military to attempt to prevent others from being drawn to it.

[static spear]

Fun fact I finished both soc and poc in exactly 27 hours

[static spear]

But why the military? I thought stalkers hated military

[fast salmon]

yeah side missions are always fun to have

[static spear]

Or is it because military had connections outside of the zone

[light shuttle]

just for plot thingis, Strelok killed a lot of militaries before think on the option of be "good" with them.

[torpid rapids]

to help them take control of the Zone, provide information on the crashed helicopters from Operation Fairway, and ultimately facilitate the evacuation of the remaining military personnel from Pripyat, thereby resolving the main mystery of the game. He also seeks to find a way to destroy or control the Zone to prevent its continuous expansion and the dangers it presents, which he believes is best accomplished by cooperating with the military.

[fast salmon]

cough cough sircaa

[static spear]

I see makes sense

[torpid rapids]

Exactly. Which is where ward comes in to sweep up the mess.

[static spear]

Btw, in the ending of cop they get evacuated with helicopters, does that mean that there is a way out of the zone into the "normal world"

[static spear]

Is that a stalker 2 thing?

[fast salmon]

do u think it was a problem that ecos caused or military police aka ward

[static spear]

Ah ok

I always thought that the zone is basically its own thing and nobody can get in or out

[torpid rapids]

Yes. Strelok explains there’s windows between emissions that you can hop through to leave.

[fast salmon]

u should buy it its really good at adding to canon lore from the OGs sadly runs like poo poo on my PC but ive played it

[light shuttle]

Yes, just, they evacuated with helicopters because the "exit" out of the zone is far-far-far and the travel is dangerous.
Some stalkers can escape from the zone.

[torpid rapids]

Scientists? Yes. C-Con is the heart of all the catastrophic events in the zone.

[static spear]

I want to but it comes out next month on ps5 and I dont have a pissc

[torpid rapids]

But they lost control so it spread to places outside the zone like anomalies.

[static spear]

Oh I see

[fast salmon]

it will run better on console

since they limit the graphics

[static spear]

Idc if it runs better i just wanna play ir

[light shuttle]

i love the concept of the zone being an living-entity.

[fast salmon]

i do aswell faust really dropped a cool bomb on us

[torpid rapids]

It literally is. It acts in a similar way as Mother Nature does in real life. But obviously radiation driven.

[fast salmon]

it has its own ecosystem its more like a virus to mother nature yet still sustainable

[torpid rapids]

Yes. It is a twisted version of what we already know

[fast salmon]

personally i wouldnt mind being in the zone if it was real id probably be a loner for a while then maybe do some work with ecos and become a protector of the ECO fob

[static spear]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-tong-car-gif-18327859063546042856

It's time to 100% SoC

Why aren't gifs showing:(

[fast salmon]

admin powers declined

[static spear]

Awww

[torpid rapids]

Me too. I would also enjoy working for the ecos and maybe build my own home.

[static spear]

Bro if i was in the zone I would off myself real quick ngl

[torpid rapids]

Emissions wouldn’t be fun tho. I’d imagine they would destroy a lot of buildings over time (realistically)

[fast salmon]

yeah it would be fun this is why i play stalker 2014 on dayz coz it makes survival realistic and u always have to run with a squad if ur a rookie

[torpid rapids]

Exactly. Being solo would be rough.

[fast salmon]

it is possible after u become more used to the harsh environment but u never know anomalies might just spawn around ur bed one night lol

that would be scary

[light shuttle]

is for avoid bad images, tho, #🔩┃trilogy_modifications and #📸┃trilogy-screenshots has image-perms allowed.

[graceful horizon]

(Or #💬┃en_offtop )

[torpid rapids]

For sure. Anomalies would be no joke lol

[fast salmon]

yeah i'd probably be mad depressed losing buddies in gravity anomalies and whirlygigs

whirligig would be the worst because they just get pulled into the air and explode painting everyone within 30m

[torpid rapids]

Right? They are also hard to see. Most people would want to hunt for artifacts until they take the wrong step and are a goner

[prime rapids]

I was hoping to find a simple-ish anomaly pack but man

guess I'm jumping off the deep end with gamma

I think the best one I've managed to find is anomaly custom, but their discord is kinda icky, doesn't make me feel like playing it.

[sly ember]

So this is a dumb question, but i see posts and videos with a "stalker radio station" in-game. Is there a radio station or is a mod?

[late condor]

Looks a lot better than FXAA or MLAA but a-tested 8xMSAA is still better than DLAA.

[static spear]

Does the night star artifact in the ahroprom area only spawn at night?

[static spear]

Nvm found it.. behind the fence:(

[lunar tusk]

Bring lots and lots of grenades, throw them behind the artifact to bring it towards yourself

I'm talking like 30+ grenades

But yeah that one was by far the most annoying to get for the artifact hunting achievement

You could also just make a save before entering agroprom, and if the artifact is behind the fence (or not there at all), then just reload to that save. Entering the area again should trigger different artifact spawns.

[signal solstice]

I turned DLSS on and my game went black and now it won't fix itself even after deleting the user.ltx file

What should I do??

[signal solstice]

CoP EE

[late condor]

Some of 1.3’s fixes belong to Snowy

[fast salmon]

i usually shoot them

[fast salmon]

have u got an RTX card?

[light shuttle]

Hot.

[static spear]

I was lucky, it rolled to the fence where I could hardly get it, but i got it

Only after the lab in the dark valley I get the nightstar quest from sido right?

[lunar tusk]

Specifically after you show him the documents from the lab. That part might be missable if you head straight to the bar and hand them over there.

You may need to complete other side missions from him first before it shows up.

[static spear]

Do I have to go to the 100 rads bar first and then sido or can I go straight to sido

[lunar tusk]

Go straight to sido

[static spear]

Yessir

@lunar tusk got it, the suit i mean👍

Only a few challenges missing and I'll be done

The party on the beach and dont forget the lights trophy the lights is probably a sparkler or a battery I guess ?

[elfin shard]

anyone else geeting artifacting on dlss?

[ornate rain]

what kind of artifacting

[static spear]

@lunar tusk sry for ping but for the party on the beach challenge which artifacts do I need?
Im guessing jellyfish urchin sparkler night star and goldfish?

Or is it instead of night star shell?

[lunar tusk]

That's correct: Jellyfish, goldfish, sparkler, urchin, night star

[static spear]

Ty, weird that she'll isn't one of em

[late condor]

Because it’s Shell as in empty shell, dummy artifact, not a seashell

In original localization those words wouldn’t be related at all so it’s not weird it’s not beach themed

Not an English game after all

[static spear]

I understand

The goldfish isn't where it should be

On the stairs of x16

[late condor]

That was a bug fixed in 1.3

It’s not meant to be on the stairs, it clipped down due to a bug

[static spear]

The goldfish on the stairs was a bug?

[late condor]

Yes, much like RPG on the ground, Vintar on the floor, X10 grenades under the table etc

[static spear]

Ahhh I see. What about the goldfish in the red forest?

[late condor]

Objects were lying not where they were placed

[late condor]

Don’t think anything changed about that one

[static spear]

Nice

[late condor]

The yantar one isn’t gone, it’s just now on the roof where it’s placed in the SDK

[static spear]

Ahh, well either way I have to go to the red forest for the door with the code

Btw whats the legit way to find out about th3 door and code?

[late condor]

No, it’s basically cut content

[static spear]

So the only way is basically by looking it up?

[late condor]

Yeah. You’re not meant to go there.

[static spear]

Even tho there is a challenge for it lol

[late condor]

There is a challenge for Martha as well which is a weapon that supposed to be cut

LotZ/EE made features out of some bugs lol

[late condor]

(but was accidentally forgotten in one place where it was given to an NPC in an unorthodox way)

[static spear]

Ahh I see

[signal solstice]

I do!
But I eventually figured it out.
Apparently disabling the overlays and deleting BOTH the user.ltx files fixed it

[grizzled rock]

chris_98_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lyric sage]

How do I run in CoP? (On ps4)

[elfin shard]

Like the sky freaking out

Every time i use dlss, the skybox in soc starts having a siezure

[static spear]

Like in every other game by just pressing L3

[fast salmon]

u probably cant

would anyone consider CoM as a good stalker mod

been looking at but it seems to have mixed reviews

[charred prism]

its a COC fork that tries to turn it into Misery, just that

[fast salmon]

so trash?

[charred prism]

pretty much

[fast salmon]

do u know a mod that overhauls the look of anomalies in OG CoP

[charred prism]

of JUST the anomalies no, but a overall looks mod prob youre going for something like CGIM2
have you played the game before?

[fast salmon]

Like fruit punch anomalies are invisible and it kinda makes the immersion bad since they look really cool in SoC

[fast salmon]

yh this is my 3rd playthrough

[charred prism]

either CGIM2 or Atmosfear

[fast salmon]

im using AO3 with absolute nature 3, atmosfear 3 and absolute stuctures @charred prism

the game looks awesome just some anomalies are invisible

i just want the fruit punch anomalies to look how they do in SoC or Radiophobia

[charred prism]

no mod for that specifically if youre using AO 3 with AN3 and Atmosfear 3 prob

[fast salmon]

uh huh i guess ill just live with it lol

[lunar tusk]

I didnt really pay attention to it when I played through all the 3 games but yeah the fruit punches looked way better in SoC

It might've been because SoC only had them in dark and tight areas, while CS and CoP had them out in the open around the clock

Maybe being visible further away made the SoC ones look ugly, dunno

[fast salmon]

not true because the ones inside of jupiter plant should be visible

plus the ones that are outside are called gas anomalies while the fruit punch has no distinct look at all

they do the same damage and also make the same sound but they look completly different

[grizzled rock]

mrkymura has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[neat meadow]

Gonna buy one of the older stalkers until number 2 drops on PS. Any recommendations

[fast salmon]

buy the trilogy u will be satisfied

[fast salmon]

CoP for the first one if u just want the most defined game but personally they all have there own charm and would say SoC is my favourite but many will say clear sky or CoP is the best

[neat meadow]

Thanks my buddy said the same thing basically. I'ma just get the trilogy

[fast salmon]

play clear sky first then play soc then play cop thats the canon order lore wise

[neat meadow]

Question is, can I beat all three before number 2 drops🥵

[fast salmon]

u can beat all of them in about a week

but i reccomend enjoying what we had enjoyed for 20 years

dont expect amazing graphics tho theyre all a base from the 2006 game but i hope u notice the stuff that seems ahead of its time which it was coz no pc could run the games properly back then

[late condor]

Clear Sky first is a sin

[static spear]

I would be such a bad trip advisor cause I would just blast the SoC ambient sounds and say "huh did you hear that?"

[static spear]

Yea def a bad thing to do

I feel like that renegade dude is just ragebaiting/sabotaging this server ngl

[late condor]

Trip advisor sounds like you would be working in a tour agency lol, do you mean tripsitter? :))

[static spear]

Yea i forgot the name

Damn I ducked up my joke

[late condor]

yeah Maldives is an amazing choice this time of the year, forgive me for a moment let me just play scream_1.ogg

[static spear]

I swear that that joke sounded better in my head

Im kinda mad that the other stalkers games didnt have that ambient and vibe

SoC will forever be my favorite, especially considering both trader backround songs (sido and 100 rads bar)

[light shuttle]

play SoC first.

[static spear]

Def get the trilogy
Advice from someone who also just started with stalker a few weeks ago
Start with SoC, CS and then CoP
If you dont like CS no worries you can just skip it (atleast what I did)

[static spear]

I "finished" the trilogy in about 2 weeks

And also I platinumed SoC in 2 days
Gonna try to platinum CoP shortly too

Oh and also if you have any questions you can always ask them here (and me when it comes to ps questions)

[fast salmon]

i agree ive always done SoC first lol

[fast salmon]

how is it rage bait bro clear sky is literally called the prologue and the

||ending is about strelok going to the wish granter for the first time and how c consious abducted him erasing his memories||

the only reason u should play SoC first is because some mechanics dont exist]

[static spear]

I understood it wrong, I apologize

[fast salmon]

no problem just insight on the lore not many people catch onto straight away

[light shuttle]

Skip Clear Sky is for closet-like people.

[fast salmon]

i agree i dislike it the most

[static spear]

What does that mean, English ain't my first language

[fast salmon]

people that are gay but aint letting people know they are gay

[static spear]

Ahhhh, sounds about right

[light shuttle]

I love Clear Sky.

[static spear]

Tbh i should give it another try

[fast salmon]

no ads for pistols for console players yuck

[light shuttle]

I hope that Clear Sky get good-reinvention mods on the future.

[fast salmon]

faction wars dont work correctly at the end yuck

[fast salmon]

cough cough LFO mod or abr exists

just not enhanced lol

[static spear]

It's only console? I thought its like that for everyone or is it a EE thing ?

[light shuttle]

ABR is CHIT, an big CHIT.
LFO, well, i don't like LFO.

[fast salmon]

its a console command on PC not vanilla

its like it in both games

[static spear]

I see

[light shuttle]

I don't liked LFO because i saw the maps and, certainly i don't like the most maps that are presents on LFO.

[fast salmon]

i only played it for like 20 mins and decided to remove it i prefer making my own custom mod pack

didnt actually look at the map tbf

[light shuttle]

I don't like it because has almost every map from the trilogy and Darkscape, an detail that don't respect the "integrity" of Clear Sky.

[fast salmon]

yeah thats ashame

[light shuttle]

Even has SoC labs and Radar

[fast salmon]

radar kinda makes sense if it was on the map but not a place to go to

[fast salmon]

crazy yh it sounds like it really just wants to be CoC

[light shuttle]

Im waiting Lost Alpha The Eternal Suffering Prologue, it's an reinvention of Clear Sky but on a SoC platform.
Seems good on concept because doens't had the same maps as the base mod.

[fast salmon]

sounds cool

[light shuttle]

the only bad thingi are the comments of no-faction wars, just there's a simulation on Great Swamps.

[fast salmon]

i wanna see a 64x version of clear sky but with a weapons mod like AO3 and some bug fixes that the devs never fixed

[light shuttle]

Advanced X-Ray Update 5 (unreleased).

[fast salmon]

ive played that before tbh

[light shuttle]

The update 5 has Advanced Weapon Pack and more thingis.

and i wanna see an proper reinvention of Call of Pripyat with good content.

[fast salmon]

yes would be nice ive been playing through it like crazy

[light shuttle]

i was watching SCOPE and A Quiet Place (both unreleased), both seems interesting.

[fast salmon]

have u ever dove into story mods?

[light shuttle]

while it had good content, yes, i don't want another SGM or CoP-style quests.

[light shuttle]

Yes, i played a lot and im "watching another lot".
I played some reinventions as OGSR LE and Prosectors Project and restored-content mods.
I would love Prosectors Project but for Clear Sky.

[fast salmon]

i was looking at a few today that seem cool let me find them again

[late condor]

It’s still meant to be played after

[light shuttle]

||is the second time where Strelok is close to wish granter*||

[fast salmon]

one is called winter in chernobyl and the other is called the eternal suffering its not out yet but man it looks good

[fast salmon]

the second is SoC

HENCE THE FLASHBACKS from the first time

[light shuttle]

||No, in SoC there's a flashback that imply the first expedition before the "existence" of Clear Sky as game.
||
||CS one is the second, between and before the first expedition Monolith was an normal faction that doens't every stalker, Ashot mention that the Monolithians are "lost" since several months ago and the player can relate that event with the first expedition that happened before Clear Sky.||

||There's an flashback on SoC about the first expedition, in Yantar on certain sequence||

[fast salmon]

i didnt know that damn

[light shuttle]

Typical.

[grizzled rock]

shevi1140 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fast salmon]

i just figured it was the first time in CS because we dont actually see what happened before that

[light shuttle]

If we count CS one as the first expedition then we fuQked the entire lore, including everything strelok-group related.

[light shuttle]

Lost Alpha The Eternal Suffering it's planned to be one of the most difficult stalkermods that exists and supposed to have 600 hours of content.
The main dev is Michael Rast, leader-designer on Lost Alpha DC and author of LADC Extended, as plus he is ukranian.

[fast salmon]

600hrs seems fun

ive played over 2000 in the mods and 100 in each game of the OG trilogy

[light shuttle]

LADCE has like 200-300 hours of content but a lot of these hours is pure suffering.

[fast salmon]

i see

u reckon its harder that gamma (which honestly isnt that hard)

[light shuttle]

Yeah, is it.

[charred prism]

LADCE 200-300 hours of content is walking and loading back
play LA1.3 for peak

[light shuttle]

I don't have on my mind empty maps and play an fake-buildo mod because has sovl and more crashes than the current versions.

[charred prism]

you spoke LA
that already is on your mind'

[light shuttle]

Im waiting LATES because im sure that is not Lost Alpha anymore, is an new mod.
And by has LATES Prologue.

[charred prism]

LADCE is also a new mod, every newer version of LA the less LA it has

its poetic, in a way

[light shuttle]

That's good.
Even more more fake-buildo than the other, LATES don't need build-thingis as marketing.

[charred prism]

it lost the reason why you trudge thru LA, the funny stuff

you dont play LA bc it has buildo stuff, bc it doesnt

you played LA bc the few specks of unwitting funny, thats why you trudged thru the empty maps

[light shuttle]

I wouldn't get much funny with LA.

[charred prism]

not with DC or the newer iterations

[fast salmon]

im saving him with the RPG

[light shuttle]

I wouldn't get much funny with LA content by Dezodor.

[charred prism]

Dezodor... why have you left us...

[light shuttle]

i think that the people here said bad thingis about LA between 2019-2020 by several reasons and then he left us because he noticed that Hi-Flyer is the king.

[charred prism]

no, I mean, why have you left the S2012 project, you know hes not there anymore, hes making his own game now

[light shuttle]

Now Zoltán Munkácsi it's making Subversity and S2 Old Concept.

[charred prism]

nha, S2 Old Concept is pretty much on hold cold shower

[light shuttle]

https://www.dezowave.com/stalker-2-old-concept/

[light shuttle]

We don't lost much on that case tho, but i don't think that the project it's gone.

I hope that S2 Old Concept doens't have strelok as protagonist, strelok don't should have considered for S2 2011, an protagonist different per game it's perfect.

[late condor]

We do. The starting emission is caused by Strelok making it to the center. That’s what Lebedev tells you.

[fast salmon]

cool

[fast salmon]

2 BURERS walking around together in the middle of the night is probably the scariest thing ive ever had to fight against lol them boys where shooting me with anomalies haha

[broken lotus]

LETS GO! Surise suit ON, game starting... Join me today on youtube livestream!
https://youtube.com/live/bj2v1gKzQiQ?feature=share

[fast salmon]

if install LA do i need to install the 6 parts even if i use the torrent version

[late condor]

Tbh S2 still having Strelok works

If you see SoC as S1 and CS and CoP as standalone DLCs

[fast salmon]

CS shouldve been an expansion lol

[light shuttle]

The engine and A-Life is too different for being smth like that.

[fast salmon]

anyway is it worth putting LAR on top of LA or should i just play without it

[light shuttle]

I recommend uninstall LADC and install Oblivion Lost Remake instead.
LAR it's the last official update of LA, sooo, is LADC with more thingis.

[fast salmon]

whats the difference to Oblivion lost and LA

[light shuttle]

Everything, everyone, all, the existence, everybody.

Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5 is an recreation of Oblivion Lost and the plot of 2004.

[fast salmon]

ill try them both and get my own opinion

[frosty radish]

Sell to siderovich if you don't mind his prices, or get to the bar and sell to the barkeep

He's always happy to serve new customers

How can I manage the weight limit in clear sky? I'll get a screenshot and dm it to you if you want

[lunar tusk]

Think about what you need and leave the rest.

Pay attention to how much of the smaller items you have, the weight adds up fast. If you have 30 medkits and you never drop below 20, then maybe you should keep only 15 with you instead. Bring only like 1 food item, and dont hold on to ammo that your guns dont use.

Dont bother picking up guns for selling, its not worth the effort because nobody will pay the listed value anyway.

Also most locations have stash boxes that you can leave extra stuff in, if you didnt know. So you dont need to actually get rid of stuff you might need later

[late condor]

You NEVER need food.

You need to have a reasonable amount of meds and ammo.

And no more than two main guns at a time.

May ditch the pistol and its ammo as well tbh if you find yourself rarely using it

[lunar tusk]

Yeah pistols are pretty useless after the beginning because they do so little damage

[frosty radish]

yeah I usually always have thirty plus medkits, I always stock back up when I can, lots of banages and medkits, also in CS I couldn't find any stash boxes, im holding onto a vss I got from a dead guy in Agroprom (nowhere sells the ammo yet)

I always have a rifle and a shotgun, near the end of SoC I was carrying a rifle, sniper and shotgun

Sucks I can’t post a photo I took of my CS inventory

I need to find endurance artefacts tbh

[lunar tusk]

You can in #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[frosty radish]

done, if ya'll can take a look that would be appreciated

[lunar tusk]

Okay looking at the screenshot

• Stash the VSS and its ammo
• You have a bubble, you dont need vodka with you
• You have a bubble, you dont need antirad meds
• Stash like half of the medkits
• Stash or sell the grenade launcher ammo
• Stash or sell some of the grenades (I only kept 5 on me)
• Stash like half of the shotgun ammo, you're never gonna use all that ammo without a chance to go get more

There's stash boxes all over for storing stuff but they can be hard to see at first. Any boxes you find can be used to store stuff, even at outposts. Here's a couple I used regularly:

• Fishing hamlet next to the clear sky base, in one of the houses (no stash in the base itself).
• Bandit base in garbage, next to a wall between the trader and the railroad tracks
• Freedom base, next to a wall in the bar area
• Duty base, blue box inside the main building
• Mobile lab in Yantar, in the trunk of a UAZ parked in the yard

[frosty radish]

I don't know how well the bubble works because they changed all the meters, the crystal in SoC took out -30 radiation but now this only takes out -6, and I use the vodkas and anti radiation rn to get through heavily irradiated areas that get me even with the bubble so im not spamming medkits (still a pretty rookie stalker), yeah I'll be selling the grenade launcher ammo, I found them in a stash, I might go down to 10 grenades (I find them useful) and yeah the shotgun ammo can go, 200 seems like a good place? what do CS stash boxes look like? They aren't obvious like the bar's one or siderovichs from SoC

Any box can be a stash box you say?

[lunar tusk]

If you start getting radiation then you can just remove the other artifact so that the bubble works at full power. You could also keep another antirad artifact with you that you can activate if you need an extra boost, it would weigh less than all that vodka and antirad meds.

Personally I only used an assault rifle in CS, and I kept 800 ammo for that. In CoP I had an assault rifle and shotgun, and there I had 200 buckshot and 600 rifle ammo.

[frosty radish]

What does -6 radiation mean? Everything was changed in Clear Sky

[lunar tusk]

What I did was that I went into a few different radiation areas with a couple jellyfish (-2 antirad artifacts) and I tested out how much radiation can show on the meter and how fast it goes away after you leave the radiation area.

Just to get a feel for it, I never really understood the technical numbers either

[frosty radish]

On that sidenote, why did artefacts change so drastically between SoC and CS? A night star goes from bullet protection to weight limits, moonlights stop doing endurance (which made sense since electricity) to psy protection? Weird

[lunar tusk]

Yeah it was odd, and they change again in CoP as well

[frosty radish]

ughhh really? I liked how they were in SoC, some of them just made sense, also in CS are there any endurance artefacts? I love running around the map

[lunar tusk]

There's ones for +2, +4 and +6. But artifacts take a lot more hunting in CS since you cant see them a mile away anymore like in SoC.

[frosty radish]

yeah, I look out for anomly areas and pull the detector out

looking at the wiki, I'll need to do the main quest line for a bit so I can progress to the red forest yantar and the warehouses and find the endurance artefacts

[lunar tusk]

2 of the endurance ones appear in electric anomalies, so check those if you happen to see any.

[frosty radish]

yeah, I'm just giving it a read now, I haven't even met fang yet so I think im planning far beyond for where I should be

[lunar tusk]

There's a couple electric anomaly fields in the swamps that can give batteries, if you're in a rush (pun intended)

[frosty radish]

I haven't gone back to the swamps in ages, and its no use rn, because I can't upgrade my seva suit to hold more artefacts

[lunar tusk]

The bandit technician does the SEVA suit upgrades

Time to go play nice with them lol

[frosty radish]

I uhhh
well, lets just say the stalkers won't have to pay tolls on the roads anymore

[lunar tusk]

I'm pretty sure they did that intentionally to promote people playing through the game a second time just so that they can actually get some SEVA suit upgrades instead of immediately slaughtering the bandits lol

[frosty radish]

I probably should of just avoided the faction wars, but it did give me a veles detector and a bubble artefact so it is what it is

[frosty radish]

if i can't fix the seva suits durability its so cooked, I need to get the military armoured suit if its still as good as it was in SoC

[lunar tusk]

The upgrade and repair stuff changes in CoP but I'm pretty sure that in CS all the technicians can fix weapons and armor even if they cant upgrade them

[frosty radish]

yeah everyone can repair my stuff, but no-one is smart enough to do upgrades for the seva and vss yet, also is it worth buying those stash coords that are like 1000-1500 and they have no idea whats in it

I don't want to waste my money

[lunar tusk]

I didn't buy a single one that was worth it. Only the flash drive ones were worth it imo

And they always tell you if there's one in the stash

[frosty radish]

i did buy one that had anti radiation drugs because they so scarce and it was only 600 rubles

[fast salmon]

theyre everywhere just break the cube boxes and the little lunch box looking things with ur knife always find some goodies at least half of the time

[frosty radish]

My dream right there, so much storage space

[karmic horizon]

This is early in the game, I'm at the Flea Market, which serves as my main stash,
since it is in the center of the Zone and access to Rostok is blocked by anomalies.

[frosty radish]

“Early”
Bro you have 1000 rounds of 9x39, a sniper and some armour I don’t even know what it is

[karmic horizon]

This is me leaving the Marshes for the first time: (second game, once I learned from the first)

[frosty radish]

That’s the starting map 😭

I’ve never seen that armour, is that modded?

[humble crescent]

Bruh how many hours you spent on the marshes? Why do you keep so many armor that is worse than your current

[humble crescent]

It's CS-3, Suslov sells it if Clear Sky is friendly, or if you are a member and renegades are defeated

[karmic horizon]

I'm taking everything with me when I leave the Marshes.
I never sell my armors. I like to collect them as I get them.

I spent enough time in the Marshes to achieve Expert Rank.

[lunar tusk]

I left the marshes with about the same gear yeah, including the veles detector

I didnt keep the old armors though

[fast salmon]

being collector isnt a bad thing

like i have 30 different guns not all of them work but they are cool so if i ever wanna switch things up i can or if something break and i have no money to fix it i can just swap to worser armour which they all have benefits

[karmic horizon]

The 16+ year-old original Stalker games have Nvidia DLSS support now, which isn't as crazy as it sounds | PC Gamer https://share.google/8udWTwak0gTPQ4Af5

[obsidian fog]

Hello, people.
Uh, so I bought this game a while ago, played it a little bit and didn't get very far and have now decided that I would love to play the game again. Problem is, I can't play it now after the new update thing. I get the following error message every time I try and start it and I would very much like to play this game.

"The installed video card does not meet the minimum system requirements.
[ D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_12.0 ]"
How can I fix this?

The content of this message was wrong...

[late condor]

you play the originals and not enhanced editions

be thankful, your hardware saved you

[obsidian fog]

played, it's been replaced

oh well

[late condor]

wdym? you're clearly on PC, it's not replaced there

whats your platform?

[obsidian fog]

steam (win10)

[late condor]

you have two different entries, regular games and enhanced editions

look in your library

[obsidian fog]

I'm blind augh

thank you for helping me

[late condor]

np enjoy the game!

[karmic horizon]

(Not my opinion)

[whole geyser]

Its goated fr

[humble crescent]

The best part, but too bugged to get the recognition it deserves

[sly ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw_Uta7ErB8

do i have to complete all of the trilogy to play Anomaly

[whole geyser]

its recommended to play the trilogy first as anomaly is really just a sandbox

[karmic horizon]

No, but you would really be missing out on the background and story of the original games.

In other words, you could watch Star Wars 7-8-9 before seeing the first and second trilogies, but see how much you would miss?

[sly ember]

true

[fast salmon]

anomaly is boring unless u have 200mods

[whole geyser]

also this

HACR, gamma, EFP, OWA/OWR, anthology and all the other modpacks really make it fun

[fast salmon]

anthology is pretty cool but very bad in its current state

[whole geyser]

im excited to try it once its more polished

[fast salmon]

i need a 50 series gpu 😢

[graceful horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/polish-gif-27381238

[fast salmon]

bro how do i keep zulu alive for the pripyat underground mission

i thought if u bring strider vano sokolov they get a health boost but zulu seems to love not making it to prip

i did it had to clutch a nade and hip fire the last 2

[fast salmon]

BAN THIS GUY BRO

lmao

[pale tiger]

@icy jackal - I tried Lost Alpha and I swear, it's a pain...especially having to 'attach ammunition to belt', like...what? Is there a way to disable such features?

And, on top of that, it's janky as phuck and keeps crashing (whether changing graphics settings, loading things or just randomly).

[icy jackal]

Ah yeah I forgot to mention about that, otherwise you can have more than 5 artifacts on your belt

[pale tiger]

Forget artifacts; having to attach ammunition in a firefight is a major nuisance.

Why do these modifications have to add features that are extraneous junk?

[fast salmon]

its like playing with mags redux its for tactical immersion makes u have to use ur brain more

stalker isnt meant to be a walk in the park lol

[pale tiger]

I've played the trilogy, so I know that. The whole 'tactical immersion' is not my thing, honestly.

[fast salmon]

dont play it then theres so many mods to choose from like OL or just builds style in general

i find enemies are bullet sponges in LA

[pale tiger]

Well, TFO above recommended it, so I thought I'd try.

[fast salmon]

yeah i played like 2 hours of it and realised its not worth the time and effort but then again i only play on master difficulty

[pale tiger]

I'm on Master as well...gameplay is not much of a problem, but the whole ammunition thing...put me off completely.

Still, pushing through to see if it gets any better later.

[fast salmon]

hell yeah brother

[fast salmon]

Just started play CoC for the first time in 4 years and my oh my did i miss how hard it was

[late condor]

Wait till you get to OLR3 which restored every single thing mentioned in 2003 desdocs in passing, that one has so many annoying mechanics its literally worse than gamma

[pale tiger]

Someone recommended CoC to me but I've not tried it yet; didn't get the chance.

[pale tiger]

Hell no; I'm not playing that, NGL.

[fast salmon]

its not that good its just anomaly on a 32x engine

[pale tiger]

I've not played Anomaly either; only the trilogy (and now S2).

[fast salmon]

its what anomaly built itself from

its only worth playing after completing the trilogy

[pale tiger]

I have done the trilogy, though a long time ago. I started Clear Sky again but got distracted by S2.

'Cause, honestly, S2 has so much more QoL...

[fast salmon]

i wouldnt say that i find S2 clunky its looks beautiful but lacks in QoL alot and it has done for the past year its only starting to get better now but its definetly not where its supposed to be on the QoL side of things

[pale tiger]

I mean more QoL compared to the trilogy; lot of things are much smoother to deal with (and, especially, the starting weapons).

Also, I swear, LADC is jank as phuck, crashes all the time.

[fast salmon]

ive never had a crash with it

but then again my PC is like 5 years old

[sleek coral]

Hey, can somebody help me? I kinda lost my arms in SoC

[light shuttle]

Anomaly it's bulit on:
Last Day.
Use resources from:
MLR (maps and hip).
Call of Misery (engine).

Call of Chernobyl is like the grandpa.

[light shuttle]

Don't should be that bad if the mechanics was well executed.
OLR 3.0 has great thingis but that soupy of Oblivion Lost is not smth good.

[sleek coral]

Call of Pripyat or Shadow of Chernobyl

[light shuttle]

?

Call of Chernobyl it's based on Call of Pripyat.

[sleek coral]

Ah, you were talking about mod

Anyway can you help me with a bug in SoC?

[humble crescent]

What bug?

[sleek coral]

I used demo record, tried the... "cubic map"? (The thing you activate with back button), got disappointed, pressed escape and ended up without hands. Or maybe didn't even press escape first time, just used cubic map. Anyway now I can't see my weapon and aim

[late condor]

Is “Show weapon” enabled in settings?

[fast salmon]

press enter

it gives ur hands back

had this issue when i played anomaly when u demo record 1 u press enter to get out of it

[sleek coral]

Doesn't work

[fast salmon]

num enter

[sleek coral]

Nope

[fast salmon]

shit idk then

[fast salmon]

might have to delete user.ltx

[sleek coral]

Now I have nothing

[fast salmon]

wdym

user.ltx is ur settings file btw once it get deleted its makes a new one upon relaunch fixing bugs like the one u dealing with

[sleek coral]

I have no weapon, no hp bar, no stamina bar, no minimap etc

[fast salmon]

are u playing base SoC or is it a mod

[sleek coral]

Base

[fast salmon]

pause and unpause

[sleek coral]

Already

[fast salmon]

try + and - on the numpad

[sleek coral]

Ok

Oh, just reran the game. Everything's back

[fast salmon]

lol cool

yeah dont mess with demo record lol its not intended to be used as a no clipping device

[sleek coral]

Yeah, sucks. Just wanted to find the last dog to kill quicker

@fast salmon
Btw which artifacts do you prefer?

[late condor]

It literally is though

It’s the game’s photo mode basically

Every console command that devs didn’t want you to use (god mode, unlimited ammo, etc) was removed from base game release

[light shuttle]

included the great jump_to_level.

[pale tiger]

Damn, that was funny.

[fast salmon]

my favourite is a goldfish its trash in SoC but it looks really cool but i dont actually have a real preference they all do good depending on the activity ur doing like artifact hunting u want resistance to what ever anomaly field ur hunting in or if ur like me favour endurance over anything also if u get 5 batteries or something of 30% resistance 5 times u can just take anomaly damage and it will heal u and repair armour/weapon

30x5 is 150 meaning the %50 will have to be distributed across ur health and armour

[sleek coral]

I prefer The sea urchin and flash with Bengal fire

[fast salmon]

whats a bengal fire

[sleek coral]

+36 to stamina
-10% to shock damage
Looks like a big blueberry

[fast salmon]

thats a sparkler

did u know u can get a moonlight in the railroad tunnel in Cordon

which is the best artifact for endurance

[sleek coral]

Maybe, found one

[fast salmon]

look at #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[sleek coral]

Ah, i thought you were talking about Night star

[fast salmon]

no night star is just a melted jellyfish

[sleek coral]

Yeah, I know. Yk, star, moon, similar space thematic

[fast salmon]

yeah i get it

night star moonlight and soul is a pretty good combo tbh

[sleek coral]

I use night star + sea urchin + flash + sparkler + slug

[pale tiger]

OK, so LADC is definitely miserable; I honestly prefer the PKM at the Cordon in Clear Sky to this, NGL.

Guess I'm uninstalling.

[fast salmon]

hahahah that machine gunner in clear sky actually hurts my soul even thinking about fighting them haha i did destroy that dude tho abusing hipfire

[radiant cloak]

In CotZ after the Monolith mission, my scanner and mini map do not show anything. Svarog detector and helmet with infrared scanner so I should see everybody and anomolies as well as artefacts. Anyone know a fix?

[fast salmon]

poor X cant patch it now

he probably patched it in heaven but u gotta make the trip dude

[pale tiger]

I just ran, since I didn't have the patience to fight 'im.

[fast salmon]

i also ran lol but i needed ammo so i just picked them off while i was out of aiming distance

[pale tiger]

That's fair. Though, honestly, it was easier dealing with the outpost in SoC and CS (and even S2) than it is dealing with regular encounters in LADC.

[light shuttle]

Try OLR 2.5?

OLR 2.5 is similar to vanilla-gameplay and has a few new mechanics.

Vector of Alienation is good too, but only has a few sidequests with a great writting-quality and even is more similar to vanilla-gameplay of SoC.

[pale tiger]

Will check it out if I can.

[karmic horizon]

If you do the CotZ Monolith infiltrator variation, it will bug your helmet and infrared scanner for the Mini-Map. There is no known fix since Dr X died before it was resolved. This is the reason he removed the Mini-Map Map from CotZ. I added back the Mini-Map which works fine UNLESS you choose to get the X-19 job from one of the 5 factions that give the Monolith infiltrator job. Do not do that. Choose the other variation where you can do X-19 with your Companions.

[radiant cloak]

Thanks Tejas. I knew you would have the answer.

[whole geyser]

Tejas goated as usual 🫡

[karmic horizon]

In my heart, you are still a Moderator.

[whole geyser]

Thank you 👑

[glossy hound]

Hi, have you encountered a visual bug in Clear Sky EE (patch 1.3.1) that when you move, a lot of pink/blue/green lines appear on the screen, especially near the bases with many NPCs (but not limited to it)?

For me happens both on FSR and DLSS native resolution.

[alpine sinew]

hey guys, can anyone help me get into stalker as a franchise? i always thought it sounded interesting but struggled with getting a hang of the games (i have the trilogy on steam)

like is there anything like a beginner's guide
i mostly want to use sniper rifles

[glossy hound]

I think you should just start playing the Enhanced Editions of the game. When I started, I didn't have any guides, it was fun enough to play without any guidance. You will get the hang of if pretty fast.

Regarding sniper rifles, usually they are unavailable until mid/late game in Shadow of Chornobyl. But if you want to get them, earlier, it's possible, but using internet to find a faster way to get it . In Clear Sky and COP it's easier to get them earlier.

[alpine sinew]

are the enhanced editions included or separate purchases?

[glossy hound]

If you have the trilogy on steam, you should also have enhanced editions for free

[alpine sinew]

oh nice, they didn't exist when i first tried stalker

[late condor]

Please do not listen to the above advice. Enhanced editions are massively censored, AI-upscaled versions of the games with some removed features.

Unless you need gamepad support, it’s a downgrade in every way possibly.

[alpine sinew]

oh nah i love mouse and keyboard, especially in first person games

[late condor]

Then there is no reason to go for the inferior experience.

[glossy hound]

It's just your opinion.

I see no issue in the Enhanced editions, for me it's an upgrade.

I played the original ones several time each one starting from 2008.

[late condor]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

Here are some comparison images of just how bad AI stuff is.

Dozens of new bugs, really soulless “remastered” HUD, and they removed basically any references to Soviet Union in the game down to every single red star, covering textures and even removing actual geometry from the levels

[alpine sinew]

so it's mostly visual enhancements?

[late condor]

Enhanced Edition got ~50% review score while originals used to have 90+% before getting delisted

[alpine sinew]

and censorship stuff

[late condor]

The AI upscales are not the enhancements haha, the blurry part in the comparison is from “enhanced” editions

And they also decided to run subdivision on all models which broke smoothing

Also like dozens of bugs that did not exist in the originals.

It’s basically gamepad support and achievements, everything else is a downgrade.

[alpine sinew]

ooof

[late condor]

There is support for some new technologies like DLSS/FSR… which those games never needed in the first place. And they got screen space reflections and a couple more smaller scale effects in there.

But generally it’s either about the same or just worse.

[glossy hound]

Man, I played Shadow of Chornobyl EE, most bugs from the original game got fixed and didn't annoy me. And the visuals are just better, especially now with DLSS native which is way better than any anti-aliasing

[late condor]

Which “most bugs” got fixed, mind you? I compared the code between the two directly, the fixes are far and few. And the amount of NEW bugs introduced is insane.

The amount of fixes in there is nothing compared to any of the community patches for the originals.

[glossy hound]

Broken missions that failed to complete and many other small things that needed a re-load to fix itself. It just didn't happen to me on EE playthrough

[late condor]

Luck then. The only mission they fixed is the skull squad. There are a little over a few dozen changes to code across ALL of SoC EE and even then most of those came from 1.3 patch. Compared to community fixes, this is absolutely nothing.

[glossy hound]

Considering it's a free upgrade, for me it was an improvement, especially on a higher resolution screen

[late condor]

They broke a lot more than they fixed. Sound occlusion broken, sound volumes effed up, corpse ragdolls never working correctly, going up ladders is no longer smooth, CNPP on Prypiat outline is missing, navigating dialog in trade. None of those issues ever existed in the original.

[glossy hound]

Have you tried playing original in 4K resolution out of the box?

[late condor]

AI slop is not an upgrade, nobody should feel grateful for being forced-fed crap for free.

[late condor]

I did, the fonts do not scale well. I usually select 2560x1440.

Still, with how much they screwed up the fonts in the enhanced edition, I’d rather have them small than the abomination that it currently is.

[glossy hound]

I don't know why you are so bitter, but you don't have to play and don't have to shit on EE if you don't like it. It's not like you pay for it

[late condor]

Oh, I did not pay for it, but I absolutely warn people so that they don’t ruin their first experience with an edition where devs decided that they could enhance the graphics by running models through subdivision and textures through an AI upscale

And with how sterilised the environment and everything else has been, it pains me that some people will play through the game without ever hearing Live to Forget

I don’t have to play it, I still have 100+ hours to document each and every of its screw-up, because it’s years away from being on pars with the original let alone “enhanced”.

[glossy hound]

Again, it's your opinion.

Right off the bat if you launch the original on 4K screen and EE on 4K screen, it will look way more playable and you will be able to read the dialogues at least.

Original is just not playable in 4K now, that's it.

And I haven't had a single annoying me issue in Shadow of Chornobyl EE

[late condor]

Then you have to be blind to not notice all the new bugs. Even with months of patches there are still so many issues that did not exist in the original.

At best you’re trading old bugs for new ones.

[glossy hound]

I can say that when completing the original Shadow of Chornobyl, I got multiple times a bug when progression got stuck because of the missin issue or something like that, so I had to re-load the saves and play it again, so it's not bugging out and not getting stuck on me.

In Shadow of Chornobyl EE I didn't have this issue even once. You can call it luck and maybe it is, but I had a perfectly nice playing experience, completing all side quests and unblocking most achievements.

[late condor]

I do not call it luck for no reason, I literally compared every single patch of EE with originals. I know what they fixed and what they didn’t. If something did not work for you in originals and worked in EE, I assure you, it came down to external factors. The actual fixes are far and few.

If you compare EE with literally any community patch out there, you will quickly find out it’s a complete joke.

[glossy hound]

Probably, but a random person who's never played the games wouldn't probably be searching for mods with community fixes. I wouldn't, it's a relatively short and simple game to complete. (All three parts add up, but on its own every single part is pretty small).

So as for me EE is a good thing for new players, but I can accept your opinion that it's not that much better and some things got worse.

One thing I can say is that new players mostly care nothing about those details you mentioned and while I can appreciate your love to the details and you probably did a lot of good community fixes and helped devs, for a regular player just a smooth play-through is good enough to entice them to invest time in something like Stalker 2, which is a way bigger and more modern game with many exciting things to come.

I'm personally casually replaying the older parts one by one in preparation for Stalker 2 playthough.

[late condor]

I completely disagree with the notion that “new players care nothing about those details”, as review scores and general discussions on many platforms, including this very channel, indicate otherwise. People may not be aware of those changes in gameplay, hell, I’ve seen people think that new bugs and blurry AI textures are “classic jank”, but once they’re provided with direct comparisons, it’s hard to deny how much of a downgrade EE is. Lots of people were hyped up for the next gen update only to find out it’s a cheap AI “remastering”.

And in no way are originals buggier. You can find plenty of anecdotal experiences from people saying they had more bugs in EE, but it’s mostly the same code so it just comes down to luck. There is one quest that bugs out if you activated a certain dialogue entry, you wouldn’t know that’s what caused it, so if you played the same quest twice on original and enhanced and only activated dialogue in one, you would think that one is buggier. That’s not true, which is why anecdotal experiences do not matter as much as direct comparisons of the same situations, especially by looking into underlying logic.

[glossy hound]

Most people who put reviews for the EE games, are people who played original games and expected more than a minor visul remaster

I think it's the issue of expectations mostly

[late condor]

People would be ok with a “visual remaster” if it did not come with new bugs and forced censorship and had at least a tiny bit of QA comparing original textures with their remastered counterparts and actually seeing where it looks worse.

It’s not a question of it being an upgrade, but not a good enough one, it’s an issue of it being a downgrade.

[glossy hound]

Here I disagree. Visually it's an upgrade for me, before EE for PC came out I started replaying the original in 2025, but then I took a pause and then EE came out to PC. I played SOC EE after patch 1.3 and visually it's a better experience than the original one.

You can say textures are worse or there are visual artificats, but just it looks better, HUD is not pixelated, etc. On a high resolution screen it's just a better visual experience.

[late condor]

HUD is not pixelated but it lost all depth and detail. It’s literally that cat meme.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1kr2nzc/stalker_ai_edition/

Behind that low-res texture there used to be plenty of detail. Now it’s flat icons and rounded corners

[glossy hound]

That's because you are a hardcore fan and you expect intricate details.

For new players just not pixelated HUD is way better and it is more pleasant to play a game that doesn't look as if it's from 2007, but slighly more modern.

[late condor]

Now HUD is inconsistent with the UI everywhere else too lol. Like literally same element is different when you open inventory, while it used to be consistent.

[late condor]

I do not agree that it’s a better experience for a new fan just because they’re none the wiser about what they’re missing out on.

[glossy hound]

Most of new players are not fans, so they don't expect anything apart from HUD not being pixelated.

[late condor]

I assure you, the reviews are not mixed because of “diehard fans”, even a new player looking into this will spot how much worse it is at a glance.

Of course if you hide the fact that they’re missing out on an entire game mode, on a lot of detail on levels and textures, etc. they will assume they are actually playing an enhanced edition

But it takes a minute to compare side by side and see everything EE did wrong

And while it was an absolute dumpster fire on release, with 1.3 it’s still massively inferior

Maybe in two or three years they can get it fixed, who knows. But for the time being a new player should steer away from this abomination like from a plague.

Artistic integrity always takes precedence over anything else

[glossy hound]

As for me, it's better that a person just plays a game and gets some lore and emotions out of it (no matter how imperfect for hardcore fans), than looks at the pixelated hood and minuscule text on their screen, closes the game and never opens the game/(whole game series) ever again because it looks too old.

It's all a matter of perspective

[late condor]

The entire game is still pixelated, if anything, remastering HUD only draws attention to how low res the rest of it is.

I’d expect a new player to rage quit from the enhanced edition thinking it’s just old game bugs and visual issues while in truth they all come from “remasters”.

[glossy hound]

It doesn't look as modern as new games, I agree, but at least it's pretty okay, unlike the originals on the high res screens

[late condor]

I am saying that every single UI texture other than HUD is still the same (or worse due to AI)

If somebody is likely to quit playing due to “pixelated HUD” I don’t see why they wouldn’t stop playing over pixelated literally any other part of the game

[glossy hound]

It's just sharper and higher resolution, starting from cutscenes, to edge shimmering and general pixelation and visual stability across both HUD and visuals.

I think there is no point to argue further, I respect your opinion, but I personally don't think that for new players it's better to play the originals instead of EE.

Having played originals multiple times, I see benefits in EE and I'm totally happy with it

[late condor]

The highest quality cutscenes were in pre-EE console ports, there was a comparison available

The ones in EE are, again, a downgrade over a previous version.

I’ve got no idea what you mean by “edge shimmering general pixelation”, if anything, lack of MSAA has resulted in worse quality of alpha-tested textures and any small geometry in general.

[glossy hound]

I don't know what you are talking about, just launch SOC the original, the initial cutscene looks 360p and launch SOC EE, the cutscene looks way better with higher resolution

It's a simple test, don't even want to argue with you

[late condor]

Then why do you argue if you don’t? I didn’t even refer to original in my message, I referred to pre-EE console ports.

Original SoC cutscenes are not 360p, they’re 512x286, only CS cutscenes are 640x360. Pre-EE console ports are actual rerenders in 1080p, EE cutscenes are AI-upscales to 4K which look uniformly worse than 1080p once (while bloating up the hard disk space).

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1kuzk6f/despite_being_higher_in_resolution_the_cinematics/

[glossy hound]

Not a downgrade, that's what I refer to

[late condor]

Again, complete lack of QA. They had better looking cinematics and just jizzed them for no reason.

[late condor]

Over original? No. Over console versions absolutely a huge downgrade.

Now you got best quality cinematics on PS4, Xbox One and Switch.

[glossy hound]

We are talking about PC versions, so if you say a previous version, then it's the original you are referring to

I say it's just better for a new player

[late condor]

I specifically said “pre-EE console ports”.

No, it is worse. In every possible area.

And even where they could make an upgrade (like cinematics) they f*ed it up

Absolute incompetence resulting in an absolutely terrible product

That’s better forgotten about

[glossy hound]

@late condor
Man, I hope you like Stalker 2 at least🙂

My opinion is set. I like EE, it's better to have it for free than not to have it at all. Visually it looks way better to me and that's it.

[late condor]

S2 is ok. Play what you want, just be decent enough to not ruin others first experiences by recommending them a castrated version of the game

[glossy hound]

I genuinely think EE is a better first time experience than originals, visual quality is way better on higher resolution screens. So I don't feel that I do something not decent

[whole hinge]

Did shadow of Chernobyl always spam artifacts? I didn’t remember getting a metric ton of them like I have now.

[humble crescent]

Yes

[lavish jungle]

Guys,i'm gonna play some stalker while wearing a gas mask irl

[graceful horizon]

Suggesting you can play it without gasmask, which is crazy-talk

[humble crescent]

Drink irl every time you drink vodka in the game for maximal immersion

[lavish jungle]

I lasted 30 minutes btw

[alpine sinew]

does anyone here like hardbass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j47wj4hs_9o

noooo no link embeds

it's a stalker hardbass song

[tawdry cargo]

Used to, got over it

Like 3, nearing 4 years ago? Ish? Idk

[fast salmon]

i prefer OG stalker rostok edition first time i heard it was in 100 rads in CoTZ shit had me drinking 20 vodkas in one sitting

https://youtu.be/HCGdViUEe6s?si=59uleX5ZdmZseZw3

[torpid rapids]

I forgot I was in screenshot chat lolololol

Much better cooldown time 😆

[fast salmon]

Does anyone ever keep the trophy ak

im keeping it, it shoots 7.62x54R hahahahah im not giving the loner a shooter like that

[fast salmon]

milk goblin has risen

[verbal tartan]

It has a ton of them, yes

[fast salmon]

i eat stone bloods like candy

[graceful horizon]

What other purpose is there to stone bloods?

[fast salmon]

selling them i guess theyre useless otherwise

but stone bloods have a kinda magnetic feel to em when u eat them maybe something to do with gravitational anomalies

[torpid rapids]

Does anyone know what the most bandits sell in clear sky?

[graceful horizon]

What do you mean exactly?

[torpid rapids]

Like do they only sell the bandit jacket and military suit no matter how much you help them?

[graceful horizon]

Oh, if you join them they'll sell better stuff

Also depends on their faction resources (I think)

[torpid rapids]

Oh okay. That makes sense. Thank you.

[humble crescent]

It depends from their faction war progress. If they control the Garbage, Tooth starts to sell SEVA, armor piercing rounds etc.

[karmic horizon]

You don't have to join the Bandits to get all the good stuff. Just make the Faction friendly.

[torpid rapids]

I was planning on joining them regardless. Just curious what they had to offer while I was tryna work their faction war

[karmic horizon]

What are you looking for? Tooth sells a lot of stuff but pays very poorly for stuff you sell him.

[torpid rapids]

The seva since the tech asks for upgrades for that suit. I did not know he offers less for gear tho. Good to know

[karmic horizon]

I bought and upgraded both types of SEVA from the Bandits. The Environmental SEVA and the Combat SEVA, without joining the Bandits.

[grizzled rock]

fruit_punch86 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[broken lotus]

Lolwhat

[upper drift]

Hi there, Clear Sky EE is crashing when loading the saved game. Happening with the last patch. I had reported it on Steam but it seems no one read those, there has been no response for more than a week.

I also tried loading older saved files, and I found one but it crashes as soon I put the SEVA suit on.

Game crashes when trying to load a save.

Expression : fatal error
Function : CInifile::r_section
File : D:\workspace\rel-build-steam\x-ray\stalkersource\sources\engine.vc2008\xrCore\Xr_ini.cpp
Line : 615
Description : <no expression>
Argument 0 : Can't open section 'actor_hud_seva'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report

Btw, that folder from the error, D:\workspace, it doesn't exist in my machine. My guess is that it's a hardcoded path in the code. Not sure where that ini_log file, also.

Posting here because the only channel for bug reporting is for consoles 🙁 Hopefully some mod could see this and send it to the devs.

[late condor]

Ignore the folder, it’s where it was built on developers machine. What it says is that it crashes because it doesn’t find the model, but the model was added with that same patch. You shouldn’t have issues with that.

Are you running any mods?

[fast salmon]

usually mods have a totally different error when i come to EE

Like usually its an RXID error or something along those lines this seems to be a missing file or it was overwritten with something that no longer exists but did exist before patch

vise versa

[late condor]

This is very clearly a correctly pasted error from a log, not a nonsense from some dump that we can’t read

The model was added with 1.3 and the config file referencing it was changed in 1.3

The only reason it wouldn’t work is if you somehow install half of the patch

[fast salmon]

that does make sense

maybe he should verify integrety game files

then it should in theory add the files that were missinh

[late condor]

those files are already packed in .db files, i legitemately don't understand how you can be missing some lol

[upper drift]

That's a good idea, thanks! I'll verify the files and I'll be back

It's working!! Thanks guys!!

[late condor]

I guess you did in fact install half an update somehow lol

Glad to hear you got it sorted

[fast salmon]

steam being steam

it done it to me for half life 2 achievements then i verified and i unlocked 10 rare achievements lol

[fast salmon]

2 beers and a pack of haribos im ready for the zone baybeh

[fast salmon]

thats me after a crack binge

[lyric garnet]

guys how do i kill barin (dutier) without pissing off the whole duty in SoC??

[graceful horizon]

Shoot a loner twice to make him hostile, hide behind Barin, watch duty curbstomo the loner after he kills barin

[humble crescent]

He usually wanders around the bar territory, just wait till the dogs kill him for you

[lyric garnet]

oh yeah thanks i'll do this

[late condor]

I love SoC for all the unintended gameplay mechanics in this game

In prerelease builds NPCs got hostile towards each other for random shots, they changed this to specifically omit NPCs and only count when player does it, but forgot to touch the player part of the code

If any dutier sees a loner murder Baryn, then they’ll attack that loner while loners will ignore the attack, then loners will attack the dutier while Dury ignores them, and that just keeps on going with constant revenge kills targeted at the murderer

[late condor]

(this does also work in other games but due to squad system it’s a lot harder to execute)

[graceful horizon]

When I do it the loners don't retaliate though

[late condor]

Weird stuff. I only tested it in CS but SoC is running the same logic. They should retaliate.

[graceful horizon]

Maybe I only tried it in complete mod and they changed it. I played that one a lot

[late condor]

Nope, that’s engine-side behaviour. Mods like complete wouldn’t alter it.

Maybe no loner saw it?

[graceful horizon]

Been a while. Next time I'll do it for maximum chaos, not for an outsourced hit

[late condor]

Now that I think about it, one thing is different in SoC compared to CS, SoC loners have no sympathy for each other. Maybe that affects NPC->NPC hits as well.

[graceful horizon]

What I've noticed, especially in rostok, is that loners are only sympathetic to other loners they directly hang out with, like a hidden squad system. While on some other places, like red forest after getting rid of the monolithians, you can just kill every loner one by one and no one bats an eye

[late condor]

Yeah there is a group system in SoC. I still don’t fully grasp how it works either. Many times you can kill an NPC without anyone seeing and their friends will still know.

[graceful horizon]

*until in rostok you trigger the duty message which turns everyone hostile

But yeah, it's a rather nebulous system

[late condor]

That one is scripted

[quick stump]

helllo sdalgerz

[graceful horizon]

Exactly

[chilly cobalt]

What mods/mod packs are generally recommended for the OG stalkers? Fancy playing them again and never really played them modded

[late condor]

I don’t think any are universally recommended, it’s all a matter of personal preference

[torpid rapids]

Misery & Lost Alpha are pretty good

[late condor]

Lost Alpha is more its own thing rather than soc mod pack

I recommend getting snowys restoration for cop, it’s really neat

Basically soc style atmosphere for the game

[fast salmon]

CoP i say install AO3 with its optional mods ie atmosfear 3 and absolute nature 3 then just throw absolute structures on it for 4k - 2k textures for ukno structures

they are all compatible with eachother

clear sky i'd say used clear sky renewal mod but it crashes due to a missing animation for the l85 when its in an NPC's hands ie anm_hand_boring_l85 dont know how to fix it because it doesnt run if u replace it with a default anim

SoC i recommend using VSO mod for a mostly vanilla experience just nicer graphics and weapon models also allows you to go back through the maps if u decide that u wanna stop fighting at the CNPP

If not that then stalker complete 1.5 or 2009, 2009 keeps it OG and 1.5 adds in HD models and nicer weapon models and much more

[light shuttle]

"keeps it OG"

and much more

[fast salmon]

well i was talking about 2009 then i exclaimed 1.5 had 2 notable things and much more

[light shuttle]

2009/1.4 still has several changes and additions.

[fast salmon]

ofc it does but it keeps graphics OG

[light shuttle]

Not at all.

[fast salmon]

Are u sure?

[light shuttle]

Yes, im sure, i played Complete.

[fast salmon]

it looks pretty Old to me

infact it looks 15 years old

[light shuttle]

i don't think that keep the graphics old is pretty OG (aren't the same thingis, thats ma point), for example IX-Ray Engine keeps the atmosphere of the each title of the trilogy while it add more thingis.

[fast salmon]

DLSS and nice bump mapping

[dim condor]

Anyone can help me? I'm trying to open my stalker save, but it's not working i don't why.

It's keeps closing.

[verbal tartan]

PC? If so, could you post the crash log?

Idk if console has a crash log tbh

[fast salmon]

It does but its lengthy sending it off

[verbal tartan]

Seems like they are using EE and I have no idea how crash logs work nor how they are located

[fast salmon]

u cant locate them on console u just get an error code

[verbal tartan]

they are on pc, forgot to say that

[fast salmon]

its in the usual place on pc

should just be in appdata or userdata depending on if theyre using mods

[verbal tartan]

they only have gamedata, levels and resources folder

[fast salmon]

they need to reinstall or verify integrety

[verbal tartan]

@dim condor check this

I asked you because I have no idea about EE, I've never seen their logs, only the OG games

[fast salmon]

what game are they playing lol]

[verbal tartan]

SoC EE

[late condor]

C:/Users/User/Saved Games/SoC EE/logs

[verbal tartan]

@dim condor are you sure you've checked this folder correctly?

[fast salmon]

that should help i usually have my saves on the D:/

[dim condor]

Tomorrow, because, for now, i'm going to sleep.

[pseudo wing]

How do you increase reputation wth slag heap? They're hostile now for some reason 🙁

[vale marsh]

is the artifact hunter achievement in cop accumulative? just wondering if i need to keep every artifact in my inventory or not

[light shuttle]

weird place

the logs system is better but, weird place, appdata in the gamefolder was an option and perhaps still is one.

[fast salmon]

this is the wrong channel

[karmic blaze]

Hello anyone know how to reroll artifact on clear sky enchanted console edition ? I had problem with the crystal one

[fast salmon]

wdym

reroll?

[karmic blaze]

I mean I saw on internet that doing save scumming from meters than reload save if artifact will be not the one that need , still working or there is something else to get spawn that ?

[fast salmon]

dont cheat

plus EE im pretty sure has a greater render distance than the OG

[karmic blaze]

I’m playing on PlayStation 5 so I think I cannot , and anyways I started the game a lot of time to spawn stone blood but crystal seems doesn’t spawn everytime

So I wanna know if there is a method to let spawn or reroll

[karmic blaze]

EE and OG what are ?

[fast salmon]

are u at the right anomaly field

[karmic blaze]

Yes it can spawn only on the fire

[fast salmon]

EE is the shitpost of stalker and OG well its OG the best old man

[karmic blaze]

I checked everytime 2 places , burning farm and the other one location on the top of that

[fast salmon]

wait for an emission

[karmic blaze]

No

[fast salmon]

it respawns artis

[karmic blaze]

I dunno how to trigger emission fast

[fast salmon]

go to cordon

[karmic blaze]

Trying to switch to cordon than swamps

[fast salmon]

one always triggers when u go there

[karmic blaze]

But like 50 times , and no luck

[fast salmon]

its not instant tho

it usually happens the 2nd day when u start the game#

[karmic blaze]

I’m in the fourth

[fast salmon]

well damn u just gotta wait it out lol

[karmic blaze]

That’s why I’m just asking if reloading a save is better if can spawn different artifacts or need to spawn an emission

Maybe cause I need to progress story further cause I need still to visit sidorovitch

[fast salmon]

honestly i dont really believe is save scumming I only use saves after a gun fight

just play the game normally lol i really cant help with cheating coz i dont do it

[karmic blaze]

But is not cheating , the game is just broken

[fast salmon]

it is cheating bro

ur exploiting a glitch for personal gain

[verbal tartan]

Its not cheating and its not a glitch, its a design flaw made from the start

[verbal tartan]

But no, I dont think tht reloading makes them spawn, you'll just have to wait for emission

Maybe try to find another anomaly field that spawns that artifact? Idk

[karmic blaze]

It spawns only in 2 location in sewers on fire , there is not other point to take that

[karmic blaze]

Not agree cause the game is totally broken , glitch , spawn artifact totally broken like stone blood that if u are not take from the start and spawn u will not have anymore , soc was good cause the spawn had a sense but clear sky they completely doing bad

[verbal tartan]

I think they way it was made on clear sky is better

It makes no sense that artifacts are just there, on the ground.
And SoC has so many of them.

Maybe you are just unlucky, but you should try to just complete whatever you have left and comeback then

[karmic blaze]

Ok but spawn rate has bugged cause I started game a lot of times and the crystal one didn’t spawn , I have like 15 hours in the game and I did only sewers

Cause I played the game from start lot of times , the system of respawn or change artifacts is broken.

The game is great, maybe has some bugs but is truly bad about artifacts , the idea is good that u will not have a lot like soc it’s just develop bad

[frosty radish]

Is there no way of keeping the compass artifact in clear sky? You have to give it up for the main story?

[rich turtle]

Unfortunately you cannot keep it.

I tried

[late condor]

Nope

[frosty radish]

Aww, that sucks, but it is what it is

[frosty radish]

dont believe the lies, clear sky is actually alright, it just takes a while to really start, I only really started liking it 11 hours in

[late condor]

You’re almost in the endgame if you got compass lol

[frosty radish]

im in liminisk rn

[late condor]

Do everything you want to do before going to Limansk

[late condor]

Yeah that is one of the final few levels.

[frosty radish]

I gathered so

Lebedev watching as I leave the swamp and never come back

thats my only gripe with the game, the actually main bit of the swamps and clear sky just isn't that interesting, I never wanted to go back and help out once I captured the main base

[late condor]

I adore the swamps as a level and clear sky is my favourite faction lol

I always spend hours on the swamps before leaving for Cordon

[graceful horizon]

Swamps has a nice vibe

[frosty radish]

clear sky as a faction is alright, its like a blend of freedom and the scientists, but it just wasn't for me, I wanted to get out of the swamp and get decent gear

[late condor]

You get one of the best mid tier suits, second best shotgun and best detector on swamps

[frosty radish]

I didn't know the bandits were neutral at first so I joined father valerian to wipe them out and get a seva suit veles detector and bubbles artifact

[lean fossil]

The hunting shotgun in CoP is amazing I killed all the treatment plant mercs with 1 or 2 shots to the head xD

[fast salmon]

the toz 34 or the mp 153?

in other words the over and under double barrel or the semi auto 9 shot shotgun

[lean fossil]

Toz 34

[fast salmon]

yh its always pretty good in the stalker games my beloved mp 153 beikal is better tho

u get it after a series of quests u will not be dissatisfied

[lean fossil]

Will consider it only done the bandit quest and the thing for owl

Just kinda wandering around watching hordes of mutants murder bandit and stalker patrols

[fast salmon]

u didnt tell beard???? u traitor

[lean fossil]

I did

[fast salmon]

so u no like the bandits?

[lean fossil]

Bandits smell

[fast salmon]

yeah they kinda do but it makes them excellent hunters

but also dont you smell u havent taken that sunrise off since u entered the zone

[lean fossil]

The only thing I smell like is the 20 bottles of vodka my character has been chugging

[fast salmon]

controllers like vodka see u in hell punk

[lean fossil]

The controllers can eat my 12g for all i care

[karmic blaze]

Anyone know how to take akm trophy after finish the quest ?

Any consequences if I will kill npc that have ?

[frosty radish]

is it just me or are the stashes much worse in Clear Sky compared to Shadow of Chernobyl?

[karmic horizon]

You have to return all the quest items to the person giving you the job.

If the person you return the item to is killed, then you can keep it.

[vale marsh]

how long does it take for owl to get the detectors in cop????

i've left skadovsk and slept in yaniv for like 10 ingame days and the quest still wont update

oh nevermind

it just updated

[idle pollen]

is this the lost Chechen War stalker mod i keep seeing in the C-con mod spreadsheet

[karmic horizon]

Does it take place on the Moon?

[idle pollen]

apparently like half way through it goes to the moon

[karmic horizon]

I've never played the Mod, I have forgotten the name, and just have a few screenshots.

[lean fossil]

Yeah

[frosty radish]

The average clear sky stash feels like it’s just a couple of bandages and diet sausage

Also, how comes money can’t be found in stashes? Especially the safe ones

I very rarely passed up a stash in SoC, but I was frequently opening and leaving them because of how worthless they were, to the point I didn’t bother checking the coordinates I’d found because I knew what the outcome would be

[late condor]

Money is implied to be digital.

[fast salmon]

i am digital

[frosty radish]

Oh really? I thought it was physical and the marked one is just carrying 300,000 roubles somewhere on his person

[late condor]

It’s not particularly well explored in the games and it does raise the question of why you still can’t loot it of a corpse (considering you can access stash information, so it’s not like PDAs are encrypted)

There is a single mention of getting your pda to transfer money

[rocky sedge]

play op 2.2

[dim condor]

Stalker shadow of chernobly is compatible with mo2 manager?

[torpid rapids]

You can find the good ones. Not everyone has a loaded stash. That’s just a dumb design.

[late condor]

Stalker mods in general are not meant to be used in conjunction

You usually install one thing at a time

[lyric garnet]

just bought a pair of binoculars from a dutier. soc is truly a beautiful game

[frosty radish]

do you get the original games if you bought the "enhanced" editions in 2025?

[warped marsh]

I am pretty sure you are supposed too

[frosty radish]

Nothing on the steam page suggests that is so

[verbal tartan]

you do get them, yeah

[verbal tartan]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2427410/discussions/0/528723510405638842/
Official GSC message about this topic

idk why it's not on the main steam page, but oh well

[lean fossil]

Surprised considering I've taken out 3 bandit camps that the bandit faction hasn't turned hostile

[verbal tartan]

CoP? I think you need to do a specific quest to turn them hostile

My memory may have failed me tho, it's been years since I finished CoP

[lean fossil]

I'm on road to pripyat if that jogs your memory at all

[verbal tartan]

The underground one?

[lean fossil]

That should be pripyat 1

[karmic horizon]

@late condor You should recognize where the player is, to see this through your binoculars.

[graceful horizon]

Out of bounds at the garbage, exit to the cordon?

[formal lark]

Hello, I am having crashes in Shadow of Chernobyl EE when I drop Weapons, any solutions to this? :/
Basically I pick up a Weapon to Unload its ammo, then when I want to drop it, it usually crashes the game..

[humble crescent]

Red forest, entrance to Pripyat in SoC

[graceful horizon]

Ah yes ofcourse

[verbal tartan]

Could you drop the crash log? Maybe someone could answer
Needs to be after the crash, if you open and closed the game normally after that, you wont get the crash text

[formal lark]

the log is empty unfortunately

[verbal tartan]

Does dropping it in any way produuces the crash?

From the drop the weapon key, from inventory, moving it to a stash

[formal lark]

honestly its random.. like I'd drop 3-4 its fine, but then dropping the 5th crashes it

[verbal tartan]

Cursed weapon ig

[formal lark]

Moving it back into bodies seems to not cause the crash though, so that's what I've been doing xD

[verbal tartan]

CS specialists, do you remember?

[late condor]

Your relationship with a faction consists of two parameters, faction-to-faction relationship, and your personal relationship to faction

[light shuttle]

I lobe Chistoye Nebo

[late condor]

The former is static, the latter is dynamic

So if you change faction, the first one changes, the second does not.

Meaning: you were a dutier (Freedom-Duty relationship is -5000) and landed 200 shots on freedomers (personal relationship with freedom -1000). Your total is -6000.

You then became a loner. Loner-Freedom relationship is 0. However, your personal is still -1000, so you get -1000 total, and freedom is still an enemy.

[frosty radish]

Tbh, I think the faction wars are a little underdeveloped, you should be able to help both sides more without having to join one, being that you start as a mercenary after all

[late condor]

You don’t work as a mercenary for them though, you join a faction.

[verbal tartan]

Thanks as always Surdno 🔥

I always forget that theres a difference of relations on CS too

[frosty radish]

It would make sense for you to contract yourself as a mercenary

[graceful horizon]

Because of it working that way you can also join a faction and complete their side of the war and then switch to the opposing faction if you did it without taking as little reputation damage as possible

[fast salmon]

i think duty should be in dark valley and freedom should be in rostok or even garbage and loners should be in agroprom

try and tell me otherwise

[graceful horizon]

I think they're unlikely to change it at this point in time

[lament bone]

I think Duty should be in hell

[graceful horizon]