⭐┃trilogy-general

[near stratus]

hey everyone, i havent gotten to that point yet, however would picking duty or freedom be better on my first playthrough?

[granite jungle]

Which game

[near stratus]

shadow of chornobyl

from what ive read its better to just stay as a lone stalker (which i didnt know you could do)

[granite jungle]

Well you can't truly join either faction in SoC, just help them with various missions (except for an oversight which does let you join freedom but is unintended)

Generally it's to your advantage to stay at least neutral with both

[keen veldt]

That sucks, I’m stuck on console rn so all I got is the EE unfortunately

[fresh barn]

You cant play og version?

[keen veldt]

Nope I’m forced to play the EE

[fresh barn]

What console

[keen veldt]

Xbox

[fresh barn]

Im on ps5 and i can play ee and og

[keen veldt]

Lucky

They made it an update rather than a separate game

[fresh barn]

On ps5 ee is seperate

[keen veldt]

Xbox got shafted

[near stratus]

is enchanced edition any different from the og version in gameplay?

only thing ive noticed so far is that the enchanced version is like 5-6 gigs heavier...

[keen veldt]

It’s a visual downgrade with more bugs and censorship

[near stratus]

okay do saves carry over from the versions

[keen veldt]

No clue

[fresh barn]

You can transfer saves from og version to ee

[near stratus]

not the other way round?

[fresh barn]

No

[near stratus]

damn it

[fresh barn]

Yeah

[near stratus]

welp at least its chOrnobyl in the ee🤷‍♂️

[granite jungle]

Well neither of the console versions are the real OG

[whole geyser]

both consoles got shafted lol only PC gets the true OGs

[keen veldt]

Yep

[hidden garnet]

Hi chat, am I just supposed to get over the fact that in the Enhanced version of Clear Sky, Scar's camera is at shoulder height to everyone else despite how the model is clearly as tall as the other models?

[charred prism]

if you arent autistic yes

however we know that aint possible from your server tag

[hidden garnet]

What a hostile response, considering I just asked a question about something that's not like the original version is and that it's throwing me off a little.

[charred prism]

in the original games the camera is lower than other stalkers height level

all 3

[hidden garnet]

That's great, now was the namecalling necessary? I don't think I deserved that.

[charred prism]

Of utmost importance

[late condor]

Is it?

[olive steppe]

This server is staffed by children deprived of attention, and given too much artificial power, best to just ignore some people.

[grizzled rock]

iska_mc_96167 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[karmic horizon]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/good-guy-gsc-wordlessly-deletes-ads-in-stalker-remaster-menus-with-itsy-bitsy-new-patch/

[fast salmon]

hilariously they patched the game but still havent fixed the crash when u loot a dead guy phenomenal work from GSC I must say these guys really pushed a patch that didnt fix the biggest game breaking bug lol

[hallow thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/im-building-construction-im-doing-something-monkey-log-gif-2100765934032562885

[charred tusk]

Snorks on stilts

Pseudogiant on a pogostick

[haughty vessel]

I find funny that wherever i see on the internet people can’t spell CoP protagonist name, major digtarev

[fierce pebble]

I've never seen that bug

But hate that you have it

[inland vigil]

Did the new update for clear sky fix the factions?

[late condor]

No

[inland vigil]

okay

[frosty umbra]

Don’t thing anything can fix the clear sky faction wars

Exept god himself

[fast salmon]

its not that i hate GSC its that I'm disappointed if only i could have the 1.0 release of EE where everything actually worked lol

[fierce pebble]

GSC isn't entirely to blame on EE

They had a third party studio work on EE

Mataboo I think

[fast salmon]

hmm they just sent me an email

[RXID=84140000-fd44-120e-0000-000000000000] this the crash

[whole geyser]

Mataboo then another 3rd party came in after I believe

[fierce pebble]

Yee

[cerulean lance]

hey guys, i'm playing SOC and i am at the part where Skull is trying to get me to kill the Freedom sniper. Is there a best way to handle this? Clearly he has gone rogue. Just don't want to wreck my game.

[granite jungle]

Ignore the request basically

You can rat him out to lukash and he'll send you with a freedom squad to wipe them out, it's not as bad on rep as fighting regular Duty but if you're neutral rep with duty it still may turn them hostile

[cerulean lance]

Thanks! I'll pretend I didn't see him.

[granite jungle]

You could theoretically do it but it's much more interesting and worthwhile to leave yourself to take quests from freedom too

[cerulean lance]

is there a way i can check my faction scores?

[granite jungle]

Not in SoC, but you can do jobs for them that aren't against the other one and eventually when they like you enough they'll turn green on your minimap

[cerulean lance]

cool, thanks again

[granite jungle]

NP

[fast salmon]

anyone got stalker gamma link

just the download im banned from the discord

[hallow thunder]

Eww gamma

[whole geyser]

play better freeplay mods like stason, call of the zone, teamlite, legends return or if you want something more hardcore A.R.E.A

[primal sail]

why is SoC's hud so bugged???

[dusty quartz]

Exported 552 standard messages to messages_history.csv

[late condor]

In what way?

[primal sail]

Nvm i had to. close the game

[frosty umbra]

What did the hud do?

[frosty umbra]

@static path have to go to the freedom base to get a sniper

[static path]

Where's that

[frosty umbra]

Do you know where rostok is

[static path]

Yes the place with the 100 rads

[frosty umbra]

Do you know how to get to wild territory/yantar

[static path]

Nop

[frosty umbra]

Play through the story till you get that mission to talk to the scientists

[obtuse leaf]

i just got COP and wanted to just explore the map and im trying to figure out how to get to pripyat how do i get there?

[zinc hill]

You have to get to Jupiter, then assemble a team and buy seva suit , do some quests and then you go to the tunnel "Pripyat 1 "or something like that

[fast salmon]

its a nightmare on XRMPE but really fun when you get to prip after 3 tries

[late condor]

The one thing I hate about xrmpe cop is gunslinger

The other is godawful HUD & Ui

[fast salmon]

yh the ui is shit i dont like the minimap placement the guns are meh i think some just look stupidly plasticy

[late condor]

Yeah just wish they did a port of CoP to multiplayer without trying to change stuff that did not need changing

[stable copper]

Sup I played shadow of Chernobyl a bit didn’t complete it lots of bugs but recently they all came out for free with ps+ premium I downloaded clear sky and call of prypiat which should I play first???

[karmic horizon]

Got to go to Pripyat to get that 4th Mama's Beads.

[whole geyser]

You should play in order of release so SOC > CS > COP

[karmic horizon]

I can confirm that Based D Lite is absolutely right.

[late condor]

PS+ version is EE right?

[grizzled rock]

nellard. has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow wind]

Wassup people. A really newbie question. I started the old trilogy after played S.2 and I didn't see any detector on Stalker SOC. There is no detector to the anomalies ?

[tawdry cargo]

No, you just find artefacts

It was a cut feature from SoC but it's in all the other games

[late condor]

There technically is an anomaly detector but it’s always on you, hidden in inventory and cannot be unequipped without console commands. That’s what makes the game play beeping sounds.

[stable copper]

What’s ee

[tawdry cargo]

Shіtty remake

[stable copper]

Bet thanks !

[stable copper]

Oh?😂

Still don’t get it tho lol

[tawdry cargo]

Look it up. Absolute dogshіt but theyve started to patch it

[late condor]

de-Enhanced Editions

[tawdry cargo]

LotZ was already weird without EE

[late condor]

LotZ did not have ai upscales and broken models and did not remove weapon inertia

Also LotZ was less censored afaik

[tawdry cargo]

I know

[late condor]

Lesser evil and all that

[tawdry cargo]

I just said it was weird

[late condor]

Yeah I agree on that, nothing beats og

[stable copper]

In the trilogy which is the best in yalls opinion

[late condor]

All games have their own direction, it’s not fifa, you play it as complete bundle

[tawdry cargo]

Yeah. Friend had a bug where Sakharov just spammed voice lines that could be heard from everywhere in Yantar

[late condor]

Lol

[tawdry cargo]

SoC best for story and whatnot but lacks in features. CS has good features, map, story and factions but is buggy at times. CoP is short but sweet, the length being mostly good sidequests and has the smallest map

[stable copper]

Do you know the mission( soc ) where u go with duty to clear out an outpost then go right outside the village where they are set up to get your reward I was stuck in that mission I swear I restarted it like 8 times before I completely gave up on the game lol

[tawdry cargo]

I like CS but if SoC had the modern features and graphics of CS and CoP id like SoC best

[tawdry cargo]

Outpost? Thats to kill an entire faction loll

Most of it anyways

[stable copper]

Oh ok small map but good gameplay got it I’m gonna to try call of prypiat now

[tawdry cargo]

Well, gameplay is alright

Not as good as CS though

[stable copper]

Oh shit lmao but yeah I was stuck redoing it cuz it wouldn’t let me collect my reward I’m pretty sure it was a main mission to so I was so pissed

[tawdry cargo]

Go finish SoC

[stable copper]

Damn really 😭

[tawdry cargo]

Main mission? Nah

You don't need to kill freedom off

Youre talking bout Skulls group right?

[tawdry cargo]

Yes

[stable copper]

Yes the rogue group

[tawdry cargo]

Yeah thats just a side quest

Just dont do it

[stable copper]

Ok bet I guess I’ll go back to my old save thanks for the help

[daring remnant]

Question about clear sky! Which trader pays most per artifact?

Should I keep all artifacts and sell it to someone else so I can get more paid or they all pay same? In shoc Sakharov was the one who paid more than barkeep

[light shuttle]

Sidorovich.

[daring remnant]

Someone else told me same and he wasn't sure. Are you sure about it?

Spoilers are fine for me they make life easier

I don't have ocd about that rather I have when I find something too late

Because finding things out cost lot of time

[light shuttle]

i'm sure

[daring remnant]

Okay!

[karmic horizon]

If you need the money then you go to the nearest Trader.
You don't have the luxury to wait for another Trader,
much deeper in the game, and haul everything there.

[daring remnant]

If I got snowflake or maybe shell yes. But is money difference that big for it to be worth going all way to Sid?

Was it this one he meant that has lot of ammo on shelves?

Why I can't send pics

You can but I can't would it be ok if I dmed it to you?

[karmic horizon]

There are various Traders all the way through the game.
Simply show any one artifact to each of them and write down the prices.
Then you can judge if one Trader pays more for that same artifact,
then you can probably deduce, that same Trader will pay more for ALL artifacts.

[daring remnant]

You know this game so we'll can you judge this part of video where YouTuber says and reccomends upgrades for early cordon stage of the game?

I will dm that video

More opinions mean more better advice for me

Again I tried going on Reddit and there's lot of mis information

[karmic horizon]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Clear_Sky

[daring remnant]

Okay I will use this once I get pc this afternoon. It's Mac 15 inch 2024 or something like that

Which one of factions is your favorite? Loners or clear sky? I can't decide which one I prefer love em both! React to my comment with icons! If you reply with your opinions that's even better

[onyx nexus]

so im playing clear sky and just got to the space anomaly in red forest

there's a couple bodies behind it so naturally i go to loot them

[late condor]

Congrats, you found an Easter egg by the level’s game designer

Yes, his body is there every playthrough, you won’t surprise anyone.

[onyx nexus]

so ||father valerian|| ain't actually dead then???

[late condor]

No, you can go back to cordon and see him.

[onyx nexus]

okay good i was so confused lmao

i've been holding off on his faction war till i get my suit upgrades from the bandits

[karmic horizon]

Most Players this far in the game, will never go back to see if he is in the Cordon.
So for that reason, most Players will assume they discovered what happened to him.

[late condor]

And some dumb players will build theories that his corpse is remnant of cut content with the doppelganger storyline

[karmic horizon]

I've heard of the cut content theory, but no one was ever able to provide any substantiation to prove it.

[gritty canopy]

May be off topic but are there any recommended mods like Radiophobia for clear sky? closest I've found seems to be Last Fallout Overhaul?

[graceful horizon]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[grizzled rock]

chezet.​gg has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[civic plaza]

They only based it on that one design doc, iirc

[late condor]

It's not even a theory in the sense "it's possible but we don't know for sure", it's a theory that was spread by people who actually had no idea and just tried to connect the unconnected.

Not only did Red Forest not exist at the time of when that desdoc was created, but we actually HAD a developer say that it's just an easter egg and nothing more.

[karmic horizon]

The Snork caves where Father Valerian and his squad died.

[hallow thunder]

"Died"

[graceful horizon]

Aliven't

[heady trout]

Bruh momented

[cerulean lance]

hey all, ok so i am playing SOC and doing my final preparations to enter the NPP. I am wondering which gear to take. For armor I have the SEVA and the exoskeleton with the upgraded night vision. Which would be better? Also, for weapons I was going to take the G36 and the TOZ-34. Will that get the job done? Anything else I should take? Thanks in advance.

[naive hollow]

Both are good enough, I'd say. GP 37 is a solid pick tbh, although the TOS 34 doesn't exist in SoC?

I know the BM 17 exists, but yeah, the TOS 34 got added in CS

[cerulean lance]

I think it's just called the hunting shotgun

but it is a TOZ-34

It has better stopping power than any other shotgun i've found, but it is just a double barrel.

[naive hollow]

SPSA-14 or a VLA would probably be a good alternative

[cerulean lance]

i read that 9x39 and 5.56 ammo is what drops in there. do you think i should take a groza with me as a backup?

[naive hollow]

Tunder S14 is a solid pick as well thanks to the GL

[cinder geode]

there's no toz-34 in soc

[mighty sphinx]

The originals still work and can be played no problem, right?

I wanna play Clear Sky, but the original

[whole geyser]

yes you can still play

[mighty sphinx]

Nice

[light shuttle]

yes.

[primal sail]

can someone tell me all the door codes in the brain scorcher base because Google doesn't help, i didn't find any scientist and the pda doesn't have any code, i need to unlock 1 door that doesn't let me. progress

[primal sail]

Nvm

[modest sable]

you can grab fangs exo in pripyat

if you have the stash location

[fast salmon]

so have they fixed the crash that stops me from looting dead enemies coz thats alot of loot ive been missing out on

NVM its still broken

maybe a new game will fix it i have no idea what the game is stopping me from looting these guys man

[late condor]

well considering that nobody else reported this crash I can assure you new game will fix it

[grizzled rock]

artem_20202030 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cerulean lance]

Anyone have a recommendation for an overhaul mod for CS?

[light shuttle]

Clear Sky Revision

[grizzled rock]

ponosik_1526 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

moshegoyan has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[torpid rapids]

I'm copy-pasting my question here becuase I posted it in the wrong channel at first. My bad guys!

"Hi friends. I'm having some problems with Stalker Call of Pripyat. Are the guns supposed to sound so muffled? And is the bullet drop supposed to be this crazy? Every round feels like a tracer round.

I just got done with CS and SoC and those had great sounds and gunplay."

The sound of switching my gun is seriously louder than the actual gunshots.

[crystal holly]

@torpid rapids There could be an unpatched audio bug but I have no idea. Have you adjusted the in-game volume settings so that everything is at max?

As for bullet drop, that's normal. I think once Clear Sky added in weapon upgrades, most weapons start out with pretty bad bullet drop. Upgrading it should help, but not every weapon has flatness upgrades.

[torpid rapids]

Fresh vanilla install, original version of the game, just verified the files with Steam to be sure.

[torpid rapids]

I have but the sound mixing is just off. The rain overpowers most of my gunshot noises. It's like the gunshots are set to 50% volume or something. I don't see any settings I can really mess with besides the general SFX slider.

[torpid rapids]

Maybe it's just the tracer rounds making it feel that way then. They are so bright!

The gunplay was one of my favorite parts of the first two games and I'm kind of sad that it isn't similar here.

[crystal holly]

That's always been the case in the trilogy. Use any weapon with a scope and you can watch all of your rounds fly towards the target. It's really cool because you can see the ballistic physics in action.

The gunplay was objectively improved with Clear Sky, and it's really not much different in Call of Pripyat. I think any differences you think you feel might just be in your head, I certainly never noticed any real difference.

Between Shadow of Chernobyl and either CS or CoP? Oh yeah, there's a difference; it's worse!

[torpid rapids]

I think it might be the color of the rounds lol. They are glowing orange instead of white.

But I also am just using the first guns of the game so maybe that's it.

I still don't understand what's up with the sound though. It is SO muffled.

There is such a lack of complaint about this online, I have a hard time believing that this is just how the game is. But I'm not sure what could be wrong since this is a fresh vanilla install and all the other sounds are fine.

[rich yarrow]

Can you make a clip? I'd like to see what it sounds like for you

[torpid rapids]

https://streamable.com/2h9uek

I just played the previous two just to compare and the guns are so much louder.

the sound of switching to a pistol should NOT be louder than a gunshot, right?

[rich yarrow]

Yeah, it sounds same as on my pc... If that really bothers you then the only option is to install some weapon pack, I guess

Bet there are some vanilla friendly

[torpid rapids]

So this is just how the base game sounds? Crazy. I feel like the gunshots should be louder than everything else.

Thank you for your help. I'll look for some mods 💪

[rich yarrow]

Yeah, Call of Prypiat is a weird one. Has the worst graphics, has lots of audio issues... But it also tried to do something new and tried to not focus on linear shooting sequences as much as SoC and CS did. As you can see - the result isn't the best, lol. Hope you'll manage to enjoy the game anyways

[torpid rapids]

Yeah I'll give it a shot. Might just be something I need to get used to.

Can I ask which game is your favorite of the trilogy?

[rich yarrow]

My favorite one is SoC because of its A-Life system (not really a fan of the amount of enemies it throws at you sometimes tho...)

CoP and CS aren't bad either, they are just very different

[torpid rapids]

Yeah it's what I'm coming to find out. So far its my favorite as well. I enjoyed CS but there are just so many people on the map and so far, not a lot of horror?

Did not end up finishing it

[rich yarrow]

I was scared of red forest in CS when I was a kid

But yeah, CoP has a similar issue – it feels too friendly to you

[crystal holly]

Yeah, they've always been orange.

[crystal holly]

Call of Pripyat
Has the worst graphics

The character head textures in SoC would like to have a word with you. Good God, your take on CoP comes across as so dour to me.

Also wasn't SoC's A-Life by far the most cut down version of the whole trilogy?

[rich yarrow]

I'm not denying that some specific things are better in CoP (Animations, for example). Still, overall SoC had better textures, better colors, more details

[rich yarrow]

Nah, every game from the trilogy is just like a different version of A-Life. It's hard to say which one is objectively better

But, for example, in CoP NPCs can't even move between locations

And in CS, even tho it's the most "techy" A-Life version, NPCs move in very predictable patterns and they mostly use two of the same routes that are used for their faction wars

I really like to use the analogy with LoL/Dota 2 games - the NPCs in CS are like minions/creeps from these two games. Just rushing through the same route again and again, dying in the same capture point again and again...

[crystal holly]

I know. I'm not talking about what's better, just what was more functional/fleshed out. I must have misunderstood some of the conversations I've seen about SoC's iteration of A-Life.

In CoP, NPC's can't even move between locations.

Well yeah, the maps don't have any direct interconnectivity between them.

[rich yarrow]

Well yeah, the maps don't have any direct interconnectivity between them.
So? It means A-Life isn't that "flashed out" in CoP

[crystal holly]

You're not wrong, CoP's color palette is very drab. I think the textures were mostly fine, but a lot of the basic terrain was kind of low-poly.

I think CS had the highest level of fidelity of the original trilogy, lots of stuff had sharper textures and just looked prettier.

[rich yarrow]

Yeah, CS is objectively the best looking game in the trilogy...

But it came with some issues - nobody could play it maxed out on their PCs at that time, lol

That's why they "optimized" them graphics in CoP... By making everything blurry and weird looking

[crystal holly]

I didn't say that CoP had the most fleshed out A-Life of the trilogy, just that I thought SoC was regarded at having the most cut-down iteration of the system. Like I said, I must have misunderstood what people were saying.

CoP had some cool things going on with its A-Life system, a lot of stuff was tied into the player completing certain side-quests. You made the right choices, and Pripyat in post-campaign freeplay was a freaking warzone.

[rich yarrow]

Yeah, CoP had some good things... Still, I prefer SoC because it's the only one that felt like it's trying to simulate the actual life in the zone (although pretty poorly, without mods at least). Not predictable faction wars from CS and not "the same type of NPCs tied to the same location" type of A-Life like it is in CoP

It has some big issues too like broken events (bandit meatwaves on Garbage, as an example) but yeah

[crystal holly]

Agreed.

I'm pretty sure the A-Life in CS had more going on that just the faction warfare though, maybe I'm wrong.

[late condor]

anything that's not a squad is simulated through classic soc a-life but you basically never see it.

[marble wigeon]

This kind of experience still largely depends on carefully pre-designed routes, spawn points, and scripted encounters to really have an impact. It's less about randomness and more like a kind of strategic board game.

[hallow thunder]

Man finally got some rest after errducating Controller nest

[flint crane]

Why is Shadow of Chernobyl considered the best of the trilogy even though the weapons couldn't be repaired or upgraded and there were no emissions?

[hallow thunder]

The atmosphere....the hostility....A-Life son

[whole geyser]

story aswell

[marble wigeon]

Just personal preference, I guess.

It’s not like anyone actually ran the numbers

[cinder geode]

because the original games are not about guns

they are about story, exploration, athmosphere, characters, quests, etc

and soc is just the best one in all that stuff

only losing to cop in side quests

[hallow thunder]

SoC had really good atmosphere, it felt desolate, death behind every corner, every man for himself, lots of unique characters outside the safe hubs, loners are actually loners (induviduals) banded together in certain areas

The presentation is top notch, the weather, the sound and story was rather interesting

[raw estuary]

hi stalker... I have a question about CoP. The Oasis heart spawn one time and after he don't respawn ?

[cinder geode]

it only spawn 1 time

[raw estuary]

OK... I don't give him to scientist

[raw estuary]

And other things... I try to catch kolobok artifacts but I don't succes. I know where I could find him but he don't spawn. It's for Garry mission for the scientist. But at the beginning of my progression I don't remind I need it to help him. I turn around the map to anomaly for catch artifacts... ( farm money) and the kolobok artifacts was in the list. Now, I sleep 4,5 times to leave emission but he not spawn. It's literally 3h I search him but nothing

[granite jungle]

I don't really think the weapons in SoC not being repairable or upgradeable is a strict downside. On the whole I think I like those systems, but at least in SoC the game was pretty well designed around their absence.

[cinder geode]

SoC weapons are made to be disposable

after getting in a bad condiation or getting something better, you just throw the one that you used away

[karmic horizon]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/stalker-trilogy-fixes-the-issue-that-made-me-melt-my-pc-with-infinite-quicksaves-and-repairs-the-blurry-textures-that-have-blighted-players-for-months/

[late condor]

Another day, another PC gamer article that is ripped off patch notes.

[torpid rapids]

i love stalker

[raw estuary]

El major Degtyarev

[indigo swallow]

Hey guys, I have a question. I'm on an achievement run in clear sky and encountered a bug that has been present since the original 2008 game and I can fix it with a patch from ModDB. To be more exact, Drifter, an NPC in the Cordon doesn't sell or give a stash that I want, under any condition whatsoever. The patch itself is like 24KB and from I can see it only adds or changes a line of code to an .ltx file in the configs. I'm afraid (maybe too big of a word) that I'll be barred from unlocking achievements if I install it, will I?

[keen hill]

Is that from CoP?

[indigo swallow]

yes

[karmic horizon]

Yes, that is from when you meet Morgan at the Ranger Station aka Forestry. There are three variations to that scenario, depending on previous choices you made. This is the rarest option of the three.

[keen hill]

That's awesome

[keen hill]

How do you get that scenario?

[indigo swallow]

you have to fail the mission "the hit" either by attacking both sides when you're at the shevchenko or refusing to intervene. then when you start the "transaction" mission, you join morgans side and fight against both the bandits and the loners while only being supported by morgan and the two mercenaries he dragged along with him.

[keen hill]

Okay thank you I'm going to try that right now

[indigo swallow]

nvm it works now. i just had to ask drifter for a stash and after he replied that he doesnt have any to offer save, reload and then ask him again. it's peak

[karmic horizon]

Owl gives the mission to support Morgan. Beard gives the mission to support the Loners attacking Morgan & Bandits. Sultan gives the mission to support Bandits meeting Morgan when the Loners attack. Who you talk to is decided on which side you choose in the attack against Spartacus on the Tara's Shevchenko.

[keen hill]

I spoke to the bandit leader after letting the bandits die in the hit mission and now I'm with them at the ranger station about to meet morgan

[karmic horizon]

If you do the mission for Sultan, the Loners and Morgan & Mercs should die. If you do it for Beard, the Bandits and Morgan & Mercs should die

However, if you do it for Owl, you are supposed to protect Morgan & Mercs against the Loners and Bandits.

If Morgan survives, he will go to Yanov Station, where you can talk to him again. Depending on what you say, he will hire two different Merc groups to kill you somewhere in Jupiter.

If you survive those two attempts, he will go to the location of his secret armory with his Merc gang. Kill them all and you are granted access to his underground secret armory. Supplies and armor, he stole from Duty.

[keen hill]

I'll go back and talk to owl

[karmic horizon]

Okay

[keen hill]

How do I get the option for owl I went to talk to him and gave the mission for power plant merc supplies

[keen hill]

Nvm I got it

[late condor]

That bug is fixed in EE.

If you are encountering an issue with him not selling the stash, that’s a separate, new issue, introduced in EE.

Which is fixed by save reload.

[karmic horizon]

How did it go?

[keen hill]

Only Morgan survived

[grizzled rock]

1nazzy1 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[karmic horizon]

My favorite outcome, is where I didn't kill a single person at the scene
and Morgan was so outraged I didn't help him, that I got no reward.

I did get all the loot though

I showed up in an Exo and just my pistol, to carry all the loot.

[keen hill]

How'd you get an exo suit so early?

[fresh barn]

Nimble

[storm trout]

Hey guys, I wanted to play the stalker games and I saw that the trilogy has enhanced editions

are they any good?

[tawdry cargo]

No

[storm trout]

why not

[tawdry cargo]

Whole ass list of stuff. Main 2 being broken games and unnecessary censorship. Not worth it

[storm trout]

😭

[late condor]

No

AI upscaled textures that lose detail and quality, broken meshes, lots of new bugs, removed features (no pvp multiplayer) and so much more

[torpid rapids]

The censorship makes me really sad. I want my post-soviet horror zone to feel like a post-soviet horror zone. They removed some stuff that's literally still there IRL.

like why would you make your game less immersive and realistic?

I think they should've reserved that philosophy, if they wished to employ it, for Stalker 2, rather than altering what already exists.

They could've even made it an anamoly of sorts.

[torpid rapids]

I have heard that their latest update fixed a lot of this but I haven't tested it for myself because I play on a potato.

[late condor]

It's a bit better than it was on release, it's still a lot worse than OG. The last update has addressed only a blur, and even that was not addressed fully. It's still worse than original release.

There have been no changes in regards to cleaning up AI mess, reworking the HUD issues or fixing broken smoothing on models. For censorship, only one small thing out of dozens was brought back. In terms of bugs, a couple were fixed since release, but it's still dozens of new issues that did not exist before the Enhanced Editions.

It may get better. If they continue to support it, of course. But not in the near future.

[torpid rapids]

Thank you for laying that all out. It's so unfortunate. I'd really like that multi-core usage. Hopefully they do manage to fix these things.

[late condor]

Ironically the average FPS in EE is lower despite the advancement of x64, multicore and DX12.

It did help with the stutters though, I’ll admit that.

[late condor]

And before anyone suggests it’s because of fancy new features, no, I tested with all the new settings turned off. Still 2x avg fps difference.

[keen hill]

Is it possible to mod soc to continue after cnpp on PS4?

[late condor]

no, gameplay modding is not allowed on consoles

[keen hill]

That sucks

[charred prism]

the only good thing about Console ports is this Im afraid

[keen hill]

I wish I could play anomaly but I need a controller I'm terrible with mouse and keyboard

[charred prism]

like I said, the best part of COnsole Ports is that people arent allowed to do this, only good part...

[keen hill]

Aren't allowed to do what?

[charred prism]

the ability to play a bad mod
it would be HORRIFIC

[keen hill]

Is the continue after cnpp a bad mod?

[charred prism]

certainly

[keen hill]

Why?

[charred prism]

ruins the story ending

[keen hill]

How?

[charred prism]

the ending that was crafted is undermined by a limp continuation that undermines the finality of it, which then procceds to become a still cancer as the game becomes a boring without any sequence, filled with nothing but procedural side missions

[keen hill]

Makes sense but I'm on my 40th playthrough and I just want to explore the cnpp without the shooting gallery

[charred prism]

all I can say is
console player

[keen hill]

Lame

[charred prism]

[steel pagoda]

Anomaly-Gamma is awesome.

[torpid rapids]

Ayy that's actually insane lol.

Ironically it was news about the EE that made me decide to actually play through Stalker. They had been sitting in my Steam library for like 10yrs lol. I thought this would be a perfect time to get into it, and play the upgraded versions, but NOPE 😂

Plenty good without it tho.

[weak raft]

Guys its my first time playing SoC, any tips?

[charred prism]

Pogo, stop trolling

[weak raft]

🤫

[cinder geode]

install 30293019102 mods on top it to be playable

[weak raft]

Factual and true

[torpid rapids]

Is there a good way to stop the grass pop ins in CoP

its a bit ludicrous. It was less noticible in the first two games

I think because of the grass texture matching better with ground textures idk.

I almost want to turn the grass off but idk how to do that either

[weak raft]

Cant u turn grass render distance up

[torpid rapids]

I have the slider all the way up but I read somewhere it was hardcoded into the xray engine?

I'm not sure tho

Also have it running on DX9 so idk if that is part of the issue

I think it also has DX10

I have been trying to optimize all 3 of the originals at once and I just got done optimizing the first two

was my first time using MSI Afterburner and RTTS

[whole geyser]

Just play fallout 4 its better then every stalker game

[fierce pebble]

Bait D Lite

I do love Fallout 4 tho

[whole geyser]

Same tbh

[fierce pebble]

[tawdry cargo]

Goddam , good pfp

[whole geyser]

Thank you goes so hard

[steel pagoda]

I mean....

[fierce pebble]

Based cat grille

[whole geyser]

Was just baiting tbh both franchises are awesome in their own ways

[steel pagoda]

It would be dope to build a fort or stronghold or something in stalker but no one has access to heavy equipment or a pool of laborers so, it makes sense not to.

[late condor]

The slider controls density not distance

[torpid rapids]

Yeah I know. I was answering their question. AFAIK there's no way to increase grass draw distance, right?

[late condor]

Not without mods, no.

[torpid rapids]

not that it matters anyway... I did some testing and even at potato settings the limited core usage is bottlenecking me from being able to use my full GPU.

SoC and CS had no problems using full GPU

[late condor]

Yeah stalker is a pretty CPU-bound game. Good single core performance is essential. Surprised that only CoP is affected for you though.

[torpid rapids]

CPU sitting at 100% like what 😭

and at DX9 as well. Full dynamic lighting (not enhanced). Same as I've used for the previous two

I guess I'll just have to deal with the random FPS drops

[late condor]

Are you benchmarking in an NPC-heavy area?

[torpid rapids]

Yes, that's where it usually drops.

man its so weird

I can get steady FPS until I get into an NPC heavy area or building area. It drops for a bit then its fine.

But no matter how much I lower my settings, I cannot affect this drop

The trilogy not being multicore really sucks lol

[shrewd bramble]

is it still safe to play MP in the original trilogy or is it a situation similar to the 2009 MW2?

[late condor]

There are no known exploits, there has been one ten years ago but it has been patched

Multiplayer is safe. At least I haven’t heard of anyone having any issues or anyone highlighting any potential vulnerabilities.

[shrewd bramble]

alright then, thanks

[torpid rapids]

there's multiplayer 0_0

have I just missed this option in the menus? lmao

[late condor]

Yes, PvP multiplayer. DM, TDM, CTF.

[weak raft]

The multiplayer is kinda dog doodoo

[late condor]

crap opinion ngl

but it’s okay, people are allowed to have bad opinions

[charred prism]

If you are a joiner with no taste

[rustic hull]

dumb question, i should keep carrying my SEVA suit after Pripyat 1 mission or i can stash it now?

[karmic horizon]

You can dump it after passing through the Pripyat Underground.

[weak raft]

What even are the beach themed artefacts

[late condor]

You need Jellyfish, Night star, Sparkler and Urchin equipped at the same time.

[weak raft]

Ohh oka

Also why did thry make the dark valley armory chests unopenable 💔

[late condor]

One of dozens new bugs that appeared in LotZ/EE.

Original release is a much more stable experience.

[weak raft]

Yeah i have over 300 hours in it

where can i get the martha

[fresh barn]

You can get it from bullet in dark valley

Do his guest first

[weak raft]

Yeah i did it and he didnt drop thr gun

[fresh barn]

You need to kill the guy you rescued

Its on his body

@weak raft

[fresh barn]

Do you think anyone will fall for this?

[naive hollow]

He did

[weak raft]

Fall for what

[naive hollow]

Mr. Beast scam

[weak raft]

Mr breast

[naive hollow]

[whole geyser]

this isnt the first one ive seen either

[naive hollow]

People falling for these kinds of scam is just the process of natural selection

[wintry raven]

We should probably add Mr beast to the filter

[whole geyser]

add casino aswell i see that included in these new scams

[wintry raven]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-izuku-nerd-taking-notes-study-gif-16043645

[whole geyser]

one scam was like yeah mr beast gave me 2500 USDC coin to gamble at his online casino i was like no way bro thats WAY to obvious lol

aint no one giving 2500 USD equivalent for free thats more then most peoples rent and mortgage payments a month

[wintry raven]

I used that to buy from Russia before that became too risky

[whole geyser]

[wintry raven]

It’s designed like that on purpose

To filter out all but the most low iq morons

[whole geyser]

its actually impressive how often these scams work from all the stolen accounts that end up here if something is to good to be true it often is

[wintry raven]

People read those 4chan green text memes and are like man what if

[whole geyser]

[onyx nexus]

folks, i'm gonna be playing CoP for the first time soon, after i beat it what mods should I try out?

[whole geyser]

none play it vanilla it doesnt need mods

id go to standalone mods afterwards

[onyx nexus]

such as.......?

[whole geyser]

you want freeplay? story? soup?

[onyx nexus]

i know literally nothing about stalker mods beyond the the fact that one exists called gamma lmao

freeplay and story are both gud

[whole geyser]

for freeplay id recommend call of the zone for story id do incubator, dreamcatcher, goldsphere, spatial anomaly, valley of whispers

[onyx nexus]

gotcha, shall check em out!

[naive hollow]

Thanks fellow janny

[whole geyser]

no prob i just dont wanna see people get scammed

[wintry raven]

I do but only if I the one scamming

[whole geyser]

[graceful horizon]

"Send me your catalytic converters so I can bless them: )"

[wintry raven]

That’s actually a genius scam

[graceful horizon]

I got that hustle

[wintry raven]

Charge 300 bux plus another install fee to reinstall the cat

[graceful horizon]

No no no, you just keep them and tell the owners they're in a better place now

[wintry raven]

Well yah then you’d get caught

[onyx nexus]

so YOU'RE the one that sold me the gauss rifle for 800SR >:(

[wintry raven]

Yah it was me

[fast karma]

Send this man to the arena

[glossy fractal]

guys, I just realized, the CoP scientific loner group, the one that you go with to scan anomalous things, and fight probably your first controller, that if you did not explore hard enough, after doing all the quests, they say they are now in a scientific group called spark, SPARK, did scar steal the name?

[late condor]

S2 talks about what happened to original Spark members.

But this is better suited for #s2-lore-discussions because in this house Scar is dead.

[karmic horizon]

Bullet and the Dutyer you rescued, potentially can leave the Dark Valley.
They will go west to Garbage and will join the other Dutyers at the blockade.
Bullet and his companion will go sit by the campfire next to the trailer. If you
make repeated visits back and forth to that location, especially leaving the
level, eventually Bullet and companion will spawn dead by the campfire.
Then you can get the Martha, without having to kill your Duty ally.

[karmic horizon]

There is a way to NOT "buy" the Gauss Gun from the Dark Valley hooligans
and to turn the tables on them, to get all their money and then kill them,
without getting all the other Loners, to go on alert and leave them alive.

[late condor]

Or you can just make him spawn a second Martha

By leaving the level when he’s talking to bullet and coming back

[karmic horizon]

I've heard of two Marthas. I can't remember if I did that back in 2007.

[late condor]

It’s unlimited amount technically. They will keep spawning on him for as long as he’s able to talk to Bullet and the script gives him a weapon. He will automatically drop extras like (almost) every NPC that has two weapons.

[karmic horizon]

You can tell these are old CRT screenshots by the shape.

[graceful horizon]

How so?

[late condor]

4:3, I assume. Though I continued to play in 4:3 even after getting a widescreen monitor

[graceful horizon]

Yeah I've played on a 4:3 non-CRT monitor back in the day, I still remember when I upgraded to 1920x1080:' D

[karmic horizon]

This was on a Black Viewsonic E790 19" monitor that I purchased in 2000. All black CRTs were rare back then.

[late condor]

cough #🔩┃trilogy_modifications cough

[karmic horizon]

Do you need medical attention?

[ornate scroll]

yo I have a problem in call of Pripyat

[fresh barn]

What is it

[ornate scroll]

some bugged document

visible but cant pick them up

[fresh barn]

What document can u send pic

[ornate scroll]

yea wait a sec

[late condor]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[modest coral]

Guys,does anyone know if artifacts respawn in clear sky EE?

[late condor]

They do under the same circumstances and quirks like in original game.

[modest coral]

So wait 4 irl hours in the same location?

I'm doing that rn and so far no luck

Camping swamps cuz stone blood spawns only in one place and I want that artifact collector achievement

[modest coral]

I just seen a lot of conflicting info about this, so dunno what to believe

[late condor]

They respawn, but the time does not pass while on another level, and occasionally save & load can prevent it from respawning

[modest coral]

How so?

So far I'm camping swamps for 4 hours 10 mins occasionally quick saving in case of freezes or whatnot

[late condor]

It’s an old bug that is still unfixed in EE. Like 99% of legacy bugs.

[late condor]

Well I debugged it once and I saw timer just breaking after I saved and loaded the save.

But if you pick up an artifact, and without save & load or leaving a location spend two in-game days, it is guaranteed to respawn. The system is there. It’s just broken.

For the love of god OG trilogy. I have a list of all the downgrades, and while some things have been addressed, it’s still a lot worse than OG experience in dozens of different areas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1lxq8uj/as_the_question_of_has_ee_been_fixed_yet_gets/

[modest coral]

Oh, so I need to not leave location, save or load

Wonderfull

[late condor]

Well, maybe it can respawn even if you do. Or maybe it will break it. But if you don’t cause ANY loading screens, it’s guaranteed to respawn in 4 hours and 48 minutes.

[modest coral]

Who thought it is a good idea to put the achievement for all artifacts

Atleast in S2 it works as intended and you can reroll them

[light shuttle]

||that bug it's fixed in a mod of OG CS, Clear Sky Revision ||

[late condor]

Because Revision is made on top of SRP, and SRP had that fixed

[modest coral]

It's not legacy bugs, it's vintage features

[late condor]

They addressed some issues and it’s obviously better than on release but it’s still really, really bad.

[modest coral]

After 230h of S2 I just wanted to go back to trilogy and see how my memory holds

[late condor]

It would hold better with OG releases

[modest coral]

So far CS battle music for human fights is.....something

Like wtf is that

[late condor]

You can disable it in settings

You know that right?

[modest coral]

Yes, but still, like it's so tonally off, why would you ever put it there

I don't remember that from when I played OG CS, but that was like 8 years ago so who knows

Boar dying to 1 shot from sawn off is refreshing
i literally froze in disbelief when I oneshotted bloodsucker with 1 shot from chaser13

[light shuttle]

FragLab should adapt the fixes of SRP and Clear Sky Revision since they taken SSR without giving credits, an fixed Clear Sky it's awesome and much better than the patch 1.5.10.

[late condor]

I don’t think clear sky revision has any fixes that SRP doesn’t, it’s purely a cut content restoration mod

[modest coral]

Also bandits are waaay more flavourful in trilogy

[late condor]

A lot of factions are.

[modest coral]

Just how they are written

I read the story of technician at bandits base an it just so good

Loners are better in S2 I'd say, haven't encountered duty or freedom yet, but we'll see

[light shuttle]

Fredoom lore in CS🔥
Loners lore in CS🔥
Monolith lore in SoC-CS🔥

[modest coral]

I like downtrodden duty in S2, too bad there's so little of it

There are like 2 duty encounters that are good in S2, but I already like em more than in trilogy

Are we allowed spoiling the trilogy here?

[late condor]

Yeah

[modest coral]

I entered garbage, saw that lil place where bandits have a slave camp and loners are scanning for artifacts under surveillance and that is so cool

Cooler than anything bandits done in S2

I guess with duty, their goal is to end the zone, but as player I don't want it to end, so I never vibed with them

Freedom as anarchistic defenders of the barrier in SoC - perfect

[cinder geode]

hey surdno, why don't you make a list of legacy bugs and send it to mol1t

[late condor]

Because such a list already exists. They can open ZRP and SRP changelogs and quickly find out HUNDREDS of issues of the originals. Or winmerge the files and find the fixes too!

It’s not like it’s some obscure unavailable information. Community patches have been going for years.

No, there isn’t gamepad support for OG editions unfortunately.

[cinder geode]

send it anyways

[late condor]

I sent them fixes directly

[hallow thunder]

Man is fixing the game for them

[lone python]

Yo i finished playing stalker 2 and got all the endings and just started shadow of chernobly and im having trouble getting past anomalies any tipps?

[late condor]

depends on which anomalies, some are in your way with no way to disarm them, depends on how they react to bolts.

[lone python]

How about Elektro anomalies? Im having a hard time disabling them

[late condor]

They are disabled for a short period of time allowing you run through. Are you talking about the ones in the tunnel on Cordon? Those are moving as well, making it slightly harder. But you can tank one hit pretty easily even on highest difficulty, so shouldn't be a problem. Don't forget about quick medkit button.

[lone python]

Ah ok it just seems some are disabeled longer then others and what button is quick medikit

[late condor]

Depends on what you're playing on, console/PC, original/"enhanced".

[lone python]

Console and enhanced

[late condor]

Pretty sure it's one of the D-pad keys.

Though it's better to check the controls tab.

Yeah, D-Pad left for quick bandage, D-Pad right for quick medkit.

[lone python]

Alright thx and are stashes meant to be empty when i first find them?

[late condor]

Yes, for balancing reasons. You only get stash contents if you get it marked on your map. If you find them before that, they will be empty.

There is still reason to explore, as a lot of loots exists outside of stashes and in breakable containers.

And there are camp boxes, which aren't stashes, where you can get loot all the time.

They're not hidden and usually located in green or blue boxes in camps.

[lone python]

But i find marked ones that are empty even tho its my first time there?

[late condor]

oh that one is a bug

[lone python]

Damn i have had a couple of those

[late condor]

a vanilla bug but "enhanced" edition made it appear a LOT more often

[lone python]

The blue ones?

[late condor]

for whatever reason

[late condor]

Yes. In rarer cases those are green. You probably seen one of those in the rookie village already.

[lone python]

I wish i could get the old ones😂

[lone python]

Yeah i habe

[late condor]

Yeah console users got screwed up with no choice :( wcyd

it's still 95% the same game and it still holds up really well even with the "enhancements", so hopefully you will enjoy it

good luck!

[lone python]

Thanks 🙏

[ornate scroll]

Any mod you recommend for Stalker CoP?

[light shuttle]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications
Snowy Restoration Addon
IX-Ray Engine

[modest coral]

Guys, does anyone know how artifact respawning works in vanilla CS enchanted edition?

[late condor]

Yes, I already told you. From the moment of pick up, 4 hours 48 minute timer starts. It does not tick on another locations and it sometimes gets broken if you load a save. But if you don’t leave a location or load a save, it is guaranteed to respawn in 2 in-game days.

[modest coral]

So I did that

Left game overnight in swamps, 6+ hours passed, no artifact spawned in any of the locations

I entered swamps manually and never saved/loaded the game apart from autosaves that game does on it's own

Now I left it on afk while I'm at work, I'll come back and we'll see if something happens

[grizzled rock]

eldorado6743 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[modest coral]

All of that trouble for 1 crystal artifact that spawns only in swamps
The rest I can reroll in further locations easily

[late condor]

Is there a chance you may have already messed up the timers by save and loading before? Did you just pick up the artifact and left the game running after that?

[late condor]

Autosaves are, unfortunately, still saves.

[modest coral]

Oh, yea, I went to cordon and did all of that, so I did many saves
Are you telling me that what I need to do is, start new game, go grab the artifacts I want, if I need other ones I should stay in swamps afking without save/loading at CS base, and only then, after 4h 48m they spawn?

Jesus it's convoluted, at this point why that system is even there
Even if save/load was not the issue, the fact that you need to do something for 5h in one location is ridiculous, there's literally no content to do

Cuz what I did was, collected all artifacts in the swamps, did the whole war thing, went to cordon, did all things there, then came back to swamps without using guides and waited overnight

[modest coral]

Is there any way to disable them?

[ornate scroll]

does that enging rework how weapon shoot?

[modest coral]

Now I it got even better
I was waiting for so long that everything in Cordon apart from 2 dudes at loners base is viped out and loners are seemingly not spawning anymore, although the meter says that the amount of squads is maximum
What is this game ahaha, I don't remember it being that bad

[late hull]

Is there mod support for the trilogy? I'm thinking of buying it

[olive steppe]

It's very basic if you mean the enhanced edition. It's EXTREMELY diverse if you mean the originals.

As long as you can use moddb.

[late condor]

On pc yes, on other stuff pretty much no. But I wouldn’t recommend mods for the first playthrough anyway

[trail ice]

i lobe clear sky

[whole geyser]

i lobe clear sky

[trail ice]

what

was that

[light shuttle]

i lobe clear sky

[vestal sable]

If you decide to buy Call of Pripyat, definitely get Absolute Nature 4 and AtmosFear 3

[whole geyser]

Play vanilla first time

[tawdry cargo]

Ofc a Warden is recommending mods for first playthrough smh

[vestal sable]

I mean, these 2 mods don't change much about the gameplay

Just weather and foliage

[late condor]

Yes, and they massacre the visual design of the game

Stalker is not just its story and gameplay, it’s the work of many people who did the visuals as well

Getting graphics packs for a first playthrough is criminal

[tawdry cargo]

Mods are alright but for your first experience better play the game as it was made

[vestal sable]

I guess you're right

[waxen gate]

are there any mods that restore the OG visuals to the enhanced trilogy? like the textures n stuff; it runs really terribly on the steamdeck but the controller support is nice

[late condor]

Unfortunately the visuals are not the cause of its performance issues, I tried reverting to original textures and disabling all new graphics and it still runs with 2x less average FPS

But you can try this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3484981145

[waxen gate]

aye I did some testing there and cross referenced the config files, I matched the settings with the original releases settings and turned off all the new renderers features I could; still ran much worse while looking much worse than the original

I wish they just did QOL stuff ngl, pretty poor job overall

[late condor]

By the config do you mean user.ltx?

[late condor]

Yeah that’s kind of almost unanimous, the game runs with less stutters but worse average performance

[waxen gate]

yea, I got the grass density, object detail and vision to match perfectly just because I was curious

[waxen gate]

there's just a lot more overhead, but aye the upped cpu/gpu utilisation def helps with periodic stutters

[lone python]

Yo how do i join Duty in SoC?

[novel musk]

It's not possible to join duty in SoC

[late condor]

You don’t. Faction joining is not really a thing. You can join freedom through an oversight though, but it’s buggy and really barely has any benefits.

[lone python]

Ah ok is it possible in any other of the games?

[novel musk]

Yeah, it's possible to join Duty in Clear Sky

[light shuttle]

In CS it's possible.

[lone python]

Ah alr thanks

Any tipps for SoC? Kinda struggling to find better gear and artifacts

[late condor]

Exploration pays off, don’t rush it. Most artifacts are near strong anomalies, if you see anomalies there most likely should be artifacts nearby.

[lone python]

Alr thx

[graceful horizon]

Joining freedom in SoC is actually fairly amusing

Mercs and bandits turn neutral and ecologists turn hostile next to duty

[steel wagon]

Can anyone tell me what I was just attacked by? New stalker playing Call of Pripyat

Managed to figure it out, it was a controller

[late condor]

Why start with CoP? Games should be played in order.

[steel wagon]

Ope, it would seem I misread the chronological search when I looked it up

I'll stop where i am, download SoC, and continue from there

[graceful horizon]

Correct thing to do

[steel wagon]

Seems I was doubly wrong and got it correct the first time, perhaps my brain has been sanded smooth. 🤷‍♂️

[graceful horizon]

Soak it in a bath till it's wrinkled properly again

[lone python]

Yo guys i just did the brain scorcher mission and im trying to decide if i go to pripyat immediately or if i should go to rostock and get more ammo becauese im running very low

Im playing SoC btw

[late condor]

You can return from Prypiat.

CNPP is the point of no return, however.

[lone python]

Is there a trader in prypiat?

[late condor]

No.

You will be able backtrack to earlier locations though.

[fast karma]

Nah

Point of no return is CNPP, so unless you reached that place, you can go back to AW and get to the freedom trader

[lone python]

Yo i just started CS and i just wiped out the bandits at this camp that im supposed to capture but nothing happens even tho all the bandits are dead

[naive hollow]

You have to wait for the Stalkers to reinforce you and capture the place

[lone python]

How long do i have to wait? 🥲

Nvm some one finally came

[torpid rapids]

I decided to restart SoC and actually finish it

[grizzled rock]

aztec42069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[torpid rapids]

oh my bad... I guess everything I wrote is just gone 💀

the game swears but I can't swear.

Nevermind then I guess lmao.

[late condor]

Yeah those rules kinda suck

Can’t even quote in-game characters lmfao

[karmic horizon]

It's just Wolf. He wants to keep the Server clean.

[vocal crest]

i can remember at least one line of dialogue where wolf swears, he is quite the hypocrite

[late condor]

No idea who that guy is but he looks nothing like Wolf

[karmic horizon]

Not sure if you are making a joke or you're saying you don't play Stalker 2. Or both?

[late condor]

I played S2, I just don’t like how they massacred my boy (and a few more recurring characters who look nothing like they did in trilogy)

[karmic horizon]

Much like the Marvel Multiverse, the original trilogy comes from a different universe that what we have now in Stalker 2.
There may be some familiar people, names, locations and other similarities, but one look at the S2 Map and you know it's not the same.

I was just disappointed to get to Yanov/Yaniv Station, and to see GSC was still calling the guide the wrong name as "Garry".

[late condor]

I choose to separate canons as well in my head, thinking some alternative version of trilogy events must have happened in S2, but that is clearly not the official position of the studio.

[karmic horizon]

And is this the same "official" position of the studio, that says to X-Box players, forget what you saw in LOTZ, that no longer exists. Here's the EE versions you deserve.

[karmic horizon]

Waiting for the Pseudogiant to arrive in Rostok (No Mods)

[torpid rapids]

FR, why do they even exist?

I can swear on the Pokemon discord but not here? Ridiculous lol.

It isn't a family friendly game to begin with

I just killed like 15 dudes trying to escape Lab X-18

My post was about how great the lighting was.

Xray engine is flawed but for its time, man. It's cool.

[late condor]

Something something partnerships idk

[late condor]

Now play it on static and feel the difference

Fr earlier renders had some features that the last one didn’t and EE just cut those without porting the features

[hearty topaz]

Just to confirm. If i buy this https://store.steampowered.com/app/2427430/STALKER_Call_of_Prypiat__Enhanced_Edition/ , do i get original version too? For modding and etc
Or should i just buy this https://www.gog.com/en/game/stalker_call_of_pripyat ?

[whole geyser]

If you buy the enhanced you get the og for free

[modest coral]

Got to 42/43 achievements for CS, only for the last one to bug out and don't count headshots past 40/50

Great

If anyone knows a way to debug steam achievements let me know pls

[karmic horizon]

In the Agroprom when you discover Bloodsuckers can use ladders.

[lone python]

Yo where is the personal stash in the duty base in clear sky?

[graceful horizon]

There's a chest in the main building in Patrenko's room, there's another chest next to entrance to the building with all the stuffed mutants

[modest coral]

Next to the office of the Duty general in the main building, 3rd floor

[lone python]

Thanks 👍🏻

[haughty elm]

Real question
Could scar beat the s. Out of strelok if he didnt got braindead?

[haughty elm]

Strelok was way cool in SoC than S2

I realize that people mocks Clear sky getting his ass kicked by monolith
But people forgot it took all Zone faction rushing by their interests the CNPP to destroy Monolith

[haughty elm]

@fringe quartz
On a MW mission during You go in Chernobyl
The ost is called "Shadow of Chernobyl"

In stalker, they added the weapon at the spot that mission happend

[modest coral]

Neither was shown to be like elite hand-to-hand combatants; it's probably equal or 60/40 in favor of Strelok due to him not being hemophiliac like Scar is in his game, as well as lorewise Strelok is one-of-a-kind marksman, kinda like Ukrainian John Wick, but Scar is no slouch either

Also, in that scenario of their chase at CNNP Scar canonically has a Gauss, which, you know, is a very powerful gun, and judging by him carrying Vintar in the intro, he is experienced with sniper rifles, so I guess if they have their supposed weapons it's dead even 50-50

[haughty elm]

Don't forget he is a merc.

[modest coral]

Ye but then again we dont know how Strelok got that good

[hallow thunder]

Maybe Strelok was in the army

[opaque vine]

Hi, to anyone playing Call of Pripyat on the Steam Deck – could you please share your optimal settings? Also, how do you fix throttling? After about an hour of gameplay, the FPS drops significantly.

[pale tiger]

Anyone know why this happens in Clear Sky?

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[karmic horizon]

Are you using any Mods?

[pale tiger]

No, and I found out why...the anti-aliasing setting causes it. Managed to fix it by just...having AA at None.

[karmic horizon]

Good deal.

[pale tiger]

Heh, yep...though I wonder why AA is so broken. 😔

[quartz cape]

Wolf ❌ Coyote✅

[lone python]

Yo does anyone know why in CS I am attacked by duty even tho i joined them and help clear 2 positions for them to capture?
Once they arrived and captured it if i got to close to certain people they would turn hostile

[modest coral]

Idk, maybe you have your gun up and they are not green and telling you to hide a weapon

[lone python]

They are green but turn yellow if i approach them even if i dont have my gun out

[modest coral]

Then I've no idea

Hmmm, idk if it matters, but are you wearing freedom suit?

[hallow thunder]

That doesn't matter. Seems like a bug with the game

[lone python]

Yeah i think it has to do with that the first time i entered dark valley i didnt let freedom search me and i just ran and think it bugged it out or something atleast i have heard of similar things

[cedar horizon]

Hello, looking to see if anyone can help me with a BugTrap Crash Log I keep getting when trying to Start CoP

[charred prism]

post the crash log

[cedar horizon]

xrengine.exe caused ACCESS_VIOLATION in module "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stalker Call of Pripyat\bin\xrengine.exe" at 0023:00B50311

[charred prism]

try to start steam on admin access or open the game with admin access

[cedar horizon]

No Luck there

[charred prism]

go to your game folder, go to APPDATA and open the lastest txt file, send here the last lines detailing the crash reason

[cedar horizon]

Inside Logs? I found on as xray_jwgar

0023:0C611AA1 xrRender_R1.dll

[error][ 8] : Not enough memory resources are available to process this command.

[charred prism]

what are your computer specifications?

[cedar horizon]

11th gen I7-11700f - 16gb ram - RTX 3060 8gb

Ive played the first 2 no problem and made it to the last map of CoP and got this when i booted up

[charred prism]

and you are playing the original and not the EE version correct?

[cedar horizon]

Yes

the normal game not EE

[charred prism]

are you running any mods or do you have a lot of applications open at once?

[cedar horizon]

No Mods and only other running programs are Wallpaper Engine, Spotify, Chrome, and Discord

[charred prism]

try closing chrome and wallpaper engine

and open the game with admin previleges

[cedar horizon]

Already a solution I tried

Did it again no luck

[charred prism]

how much space do you have left in the drive you have the game in

[cedar horizon]

Its ruuning on a SSD - 183gb of space

[charred prism]

https://github.com/OpenXRay/xray-16/wiki/[EN]-How-to-install-and-play
try to install the nighly player version for windows and try again

[cedar horizon]

It worked!

My saves dont match the game however ;(

[charred prism]

sorry but youll prov have to make a new save

[cedar horizon]

I guess I can make better story choices

[hallow thunder]

If on Steam or GoG try to repair/verify the game

[late condor]

Wtf

[graceful horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-hax-hax-hacks-hacker-hackers-gif-1970435453844108305

[karmic horizon]

You've never seen this before? Quite common in the unmodded game.

[late condor]

No, I haven’t, and I played quite a lot. What causes it?

[karmic horizon]

Like in a lot of bases with fixed NPCs, when they go online, it is not always in their station but may be in a nearby location.

In other words, it is much like a landing party on Star Trek, where they all beam down in one spot and then spread out.

Barkeep is like that. Where he goes online, as the Player enters Rostok, is in the courtyard (I believe) between the two hangars. He has to walk to the 100 Rads Bar. If you are fast enough, you can catch him before he gets there.

This screenshot is proof of that action.

[torpid rapids]

mind blown

[torpid rapids]

this is wild lol

can you kill him before he enters the bar?

you can't have your gun in the bar, but you can outside. So if you are quick enough... can you kill him?

[torpid rapids]

omg lmaoooooooooo

This is absolutely cursed.

[strange bone]

Monolith Ending

[late condor]

Yes that crashes the game

[torpid rapids]

i got drunk and sold all my armor in SoC lmao

I don't like that my equipped items just show up in my inventory at the trader.

I sometimes forget it does this

had like a 2 week break from the game.

I got absolutely ruined by some bandits just now

[torpid rapids]

This X-16 babysitter mission sucks lmao

escort missions are my least favorite in videogames.

This researcher is carrying around a pistol and he is always like "You go ahead, you have more experience" but once you get to certain checkpoints he just ZOOMS ahead of you. I try to stand in front of him to block the bullets.

It's like man... I don't want to fail the mission. Just stay back and try to stay alive? He has no survival instinct.

I feel like the AI in this game is very good but this dude has none of those skills whatsoever. He doesn't flank. He doesn't hide. He just charges ahead.

I almost regret saving his life.

[late condor]

You can give him a viper, he shreds with it

[torpid rapids]

you can give them weapons?

do i just trade and give it to them and they'll equip it?

[late condor]

You can’t trade weapons. You throw it in front of them. They will only pick up stuff they already have ammo for, and only things that are better than what they have. Kruglov has no main weapon and already has 9x19, so he’ll gladly take your Viper

[torpid rapids]

This is good to know, thank you.

[tawny panther]

Hi just started

[karmic horizon]

The best artifacts in the Cordon are for stamina.

[tawny panther]

Thanks! Where at? I got a minus radiation one I’m proud of lol

[late condor]

Without spoilers: each artifact type corresponds to a specific anomaly, with some exceptionally rare artifacts that don’t spawn out of anomalies at all.

I recommend you read encyclopedia to know which artifacts restore stamina and which anomalies spawn them

You will get new entries after looting corpses.

Something the game doesn’t tell you is that certain artifacts are only visible at night.

[tawny panther]

Man, the 120 FPS ultra performance mode on series X feels so smooth especially with the very simple primitive animations. It just feels next level Smooth. Man I love 120fps hard to get but it’s niceee

[late condor]

Oh you’re playing “E”E. that sucks

[tawny panther]

Good to know. I came across the night thing accidentally but makes sense. I played stalker 2 so I know a bit but also may need to unlearn some things.

[tawny panther]

Yeah I mean their isn’t any other version on Xbox

So what do I do with dog tail they have 0 value at vender? But it said they have Sr which I assume is the games currency

[tawny panther]

Technically there is mods through mod.io but it doesn’t seem to be very populated they just started. But id be nice if it works.

Could become like the Bethesda system that makes mods on console basically the same as pc.

[karmic horizon]

Go to the tunnel with the electrical anomalies going under the train track.
They only appear about 11pm-5am, unlike all the other artifacts you will see.
The electrical anomalies in the tunnel, passes from south to north in a wave, in sections.
When the first wave passes you run into the right and get up on the pipe that is to your right.
Stand there and study the wave pattern and when to move, as it passes and then comes again.
You may be able to get 1-3 stamina artifacts of different strengths, inside the concrete circle
that is laying on the ground, with the hole facing up. The small metal container with the corpse
inside may also contain a stamina artifact. Once you get them, you exit out north the same way,
where you watch the electrical anomalies pass in a wave. Run north right after the wave passes.

[tawny panther]

Thank you so much! Oh god that area. Tbh I avoided it bc I tried throwing a screw kinda far away and still got shocked.

Makes sense. I guess I’ll try.

Quick question how do I pass time I guess campfire? And the way to mark Manuel objectives doesn’t seem to be working.

[late condor]

Modding of EE is extremely limited to the point where you can’t change anything about gameplay. And none of its issues can be fixed with mods, really.

[karmic horizon]

You will find a dead body in front of the electrical tunnel. Their PDA will mention them studying the wave pattern.

[late condor]

I don’t see why you want to ruin the spirit of exploration and actually finding stuff in the game.

Go ahead and write a guide to the entire game I guess

[karmic horizon]

He was asking for stamina artifacts in the Stalker 2 channel. Most people never figure out that in the Cordon.
They are too busy rushing through the game and are at the CNPP within a week and never return again.

[tawny panther]

I just did like 4 jobs on accident lol

[tawny panther]

It’s not really ruining it I still have no idea wtf I’m doing lol. I’m still confused as hell figuring stuff out

[tawny panther]

Ah okay I looted that guy guessed I missed the note

[karmic horizon]

I wanted to explain that in detail, to give you an idea, that the game is way more complex and interesting than you may imagine.

[tawny panther]

Ah dang. Well considering the age of the game and that it’s not like Skyrim I assume new modding is kinda dead. Stalker 2 at least seems to have some nice mods.

How I would’ve loved to play with the 50% reduced balance mod during my play through. I had to grind too much lol

[karmic horizon]

The trilogy games have 18 years of Mods and more than you can imagine. Stalker 2 has only a fraction of what they have.

[tawny panther]

Makes sense I’ve heard that too I’ve been interested in stalker for about 3 years since sometime when stalker 2 was announced. Seen a lot more commentary videos than actually played but it’s super cool!

Some stuff on anamoly and gamma and retrospectives. Probably sounds weird but I like that kinda stuff lol

@karmic horizon btw how do you pass time to get it to the right time for those anamolies

[karmic horizon]

This is not entirely accurate. If you put ammo in any higher-grade weapon than an NPC has,
they will take it. Instead of dropping it on the ground, that they don't always take, it is better to lean
up against them and drop the weapon directly on them, which they will take, and it never hits the ground.

[karmic horizon]

Exploring every corner of the Cordon. You need a shotgun for mutants.

[tawny panther]

Okay! Is the double shotgun fine I’ve picked up like 40. Sold most of them I could carry but I keep 1 for mutants.

Is there any point to mutant hunting. Like stalker 2 they don’t seem to drop anything useful?

Oh and is it just me or does aiming down signs work a lot worse than hip firing?

Then I guess theirs no sleeping stash system like stalker 2 or does that come later?

[karmic horizon]

Weapons wear out. You should keep better quality weapons for future replacement. Only sell the ones more worn out than what you have.
Mutants have body parts that you can take and sell later.

[tawny panther]

Good to know something from stalker 2 carries over lol. I’m pretty used to the wear system and having to repair and modify guns. And keeping spare. Also with other ammo types.

I guess just dump the dog stuff for now since it’s a long time till it’s worth anything?

[karmic horizon]

Don't automatically sell all artifacts. Some can be used to put on your belt. Others are junk you can sell. Not everyone will pay the same for them.

[tawny panther]

I got the flash and sparkler. Flash is +76 endurance and sparkler is +36 endurance. So that’s awesome!

I haven’t been selling any artifacts except for the ones they ask for on quest @karmic horizon

If you’re still up quick question, are you able to mark things on your map separately from the objectives? It doesn’t seem so.

[karmic horizon]

There is no editing the PDA. However, if you check all the tabs frequently as you play, you will find added material.
Plus, the SoC PDA is the most detailed PDA in all the games. It keeps track of everyone you kill by Faction and Rank.
It even tracks all the mutants you kill by type and strength. You really need to pay attention to all that is there on it.

[tawny panther]

Hey sorry for the delay! I wanna thank you a ton for all the advice it’s been very helpful. I know it can be pretty annoying to answer.

Sorry the response is super long I have very mild neuro divergence lol.

If you’d like I’d like to be stalker friends! If you don’t want to no worries I fully understand I’m a stranger. And if you want I can stop asking you questions since I know they can get annoying.

You’re right it’s a pretty decent pda it’s a bit annoying how janky the mission waypoint system it feels like it’s always messing with my pda and it’s also annoying to self locate yourself to find relative location.

It’s pretty good given it’s vintage and it’s navigable. Some of the jank I might be feeling is probably a combo of Slav jank (I’m Polish 🇵🇱 don’t mean it badly) and how it’s definitely not optimized for a controller.

I used to play only pc specifically cs go at global elite the top rank so I can really feel when games on console really control a lot worse than with a keyboard and mouse. If you’re curious I stopped due to college and friends and broke my back so sitting doesn’t work I can barely sit to eat so a recliner and console is my only way to game.

[karmic horizon]

No problem. The Stalker Polish community is one of the largest in the world that uses English too.

[grizzled rock]

tommymiller33 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny panther]

Idk what I said it wasn’t a curse word. Anyways was saying I’m Polish American. Born to full blooded Polish parents who immigrated a lot and moved to America a year before I was born

[karmic horizon]

Wolf is a Bot. Designed to warn people of words considered curse words or other key words deemed offensive. Don't worry about it.

[tawny panther]

So ethnically Polish. I speak if a little I learned Polish before English but it was screwing with my language and school development to learn both so they made me drop Polish my mom really pushed for Polish but I’m bad with languages.

They thought I was mentally ill/slow or autistic. I remember taking classes in special ed which was just board games.

It kinda sucks I did get deprived of taking advanced classes like LEAP like I should’ve. But thankfully it was cleared up by 3rd grade. And by 4th to 5th grade I was taking the advanced classes and testing very highly the standardized tests.

Tbh my elementary school teachers were pretty bad. Straight up racist. But my principal was very good he was the one who got my parents to teach me only English that helped my development otherwise I’d be put years behind for no reason.

It was bad enough they wanted to hold me back a grade. When later I skipped about 2 years of college to graduate lol.

[tawny panther]

I know wolfs a bot and automatic lol. I may act like it bc discords weird but I’ve been using it for a while.

No I figured out I said the f word not even intentionally lol. Just didn’t realize. I thought maybe mentioning something else was it but no a curse word I didn’t even realize using lol.

[karmic horizon]

You can choose your Faction here: https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/565879298603614209

[tawny panther]

Idk yet. I think I went duty first time. The one with the colonial and the mysterious lady. But they’re not who I’d identify with most.

But I wasn’t happy. Also not unhappy just the least bad feeling.

I’ve been wanting to do a new run but I got burned out on stalker 2 and with no ng+ options I really do not wanna lose that much progress.

Idc if it’s simply a toggle slider you can choose to like double enemy hp and damage and keep all your stash gear I’d be fine with that.

I can’t believe no ng+.

[karmic horizon]

You can always change your mind on your faction choice.

[tawny panther]

Yup! Was just thinking out loud since you mentioned it

[late condor]

No, new modding is dead not because of the age of the game but because of the restrictions placed by the devs + external mod moderation.

[pliant token]

found some guy in a burn barrel, pretty sure his name is wolf, he’s supposed to be there right??

[copper knoll]

No, it's a bug that he's loaded on top of the barrel and dies before you even reach him... Hope they will fix it because he's been burning there for 18 years!

Btw, that's the guy that gives you the very first pistol at the start of the game, it would be interesting to talk to him about how he made it so far and why he left the Cordon.

[karmic horizon]

Facebook reminded me of a post I made 10 years ago:

[tawny panther]

stalker SOC what happens if you refuse after accepting a job

Stalker SOC what happens if you double up on Stone Bloods the artifact that gives you +200% health

[late condor]

The job goes to the list of your failed jobs in your PDA. You do not suffer any reputation or relationship hit.

If a job is in a sequence of jobs, the next one in sequence will instantly become available, the same as when you complete the previous one.

If the job is still possible 24 in-game hours later, you can pick it up again. Most jobs are repeatable and always available, however, some executions rely on unique targets and can be completed once, and if the target dies outside of a quest, that’s it.

[late condor]

There already are artifacts in the game that give you +400% and +600%. They stack normally. You can get up to 3000% by having 5x max health regen artifacts.

The percentage itself is a weird metric. 100% translated to 0.01% health regenerated per second, or 1% health every 100 seconds. With max artifact health regen you get 30% of your health recovered in 100 seconds. It takes a little over 5 minutes to go from no health to max health.

Do keep in mind that health regen artifacts also decrease your resistances, so you get buffed regeneration but more incoming damage. They’re almost always not worth keeping on when you think you will be getting damage, only to regen and then take them off.

[karmic horizon]

I just answered that question in my post before you. Do NOT double up and wear continuously, health artifacts since that will double their negative properties.
Health are not the type of type of artifacts that you wear all the time. You pull them out and place on your belt as needed like a medkit and then you remove them.

[karmic horizon]

@tawny panther What SurDno said, is very inaccurate for most of the rest of the game. While in the Cordon, you can take jobs like killing the boars or taking care of the mutant dogs.
These are the type of jobs, that if you fail after not doing them for 24 hours, they will be offered later. They are of little consequence in the early game.
However, failing jobs can have serious consequences, that prevent you from getting the next one in sequence. For example, later in the game, Sidorovich, Barkeep and Sakharov,
will offer jobs to give them specific artifacts. If you do them in sequence, you will be rewarded with rare or one-of-a-kind armors. If you fail to give them the first artifact,
the game will NOT let you go farther, and you will NOT get asked to deliver the second, third or fourth in sequence. It will reset back to the one that you failed.
For that reason, it is advised to already have the artifact in your inventory. This is why you don't mindlessly sell artifacts that you find, unless you have many duplicates.
Another good example is the General Voronin jobs. He has a sequence of 6-7 jobs that will never appear, if you fail any of those as given. In other words, you do
job 1, job 2, and job 3 in sequence. You are given job 4 and then you fail to do it in 24 hours. The game will NOT give you job 5. It will reset back to job 1 until you get all of them right.
This is a very simplified explanation without spoilers, for what is coming in the rest of the game. There are other type of jobs that are triggered to defend an area,
due to you passing through a level and/or getting within proximity to a location, that do NOT have consequences like those given by important NPCs as I just mentioned.
If a task appears on your screen to defend or take care of some mutants, and appear to be activated by your movement, these type are the ones not to sweat about.

[late condor]

If you fail to give them the first artifact, the game will NOT let you go farther, and you will NOT get asked to deliver the second, third or fourth in sequence
This is plain incorrect and it takes a minute to verify. Take Jellyfish order, refuse it, Sid will immediately follow up with a Stone flower order. Take it and refuse and immediately get the Meat Chunk .

[karmic horizon]

So you believe if you fail to give every artifact in sequence, and only give the last artifact, you will be rewarded with the armor from Sidorovich, Barkeep and Sakharov?

[late condor]

Yes, that's the easiest way to get those. Do note that some quests are still locked out by conditions, e.g. Night Star artfiact quest only appears after Sidorovich gets to read X18 docs.

[karmic horizon]

That's never happened in any game I have played. Is this something new to the EE versions, to make them dumbed down for new players?

[late condor]

No, EE contains no changes in this regard, and that's how I have been doing those even 15 years ago.

The only EE gameplay changes are:

1. The nerfed 6th Arena fight.
2. Bloodsuckers in CoP attacking rarer.
3. Removed weapon inertia.
4. Changed Sakharov's dog tail & boar hoof quests.

Other than that, the game is identical in gameplay to original releases.

(except bugfixes)

The game doesn't check if previous quests have been completed, but merely if any previous quest is still available. The quest is unavailable for 24h after its completion or failure.

[karmic horizon]

Sorry buddy. But the more advice you give, the less I think you know the games. You just give out inaccurate advice.

[late condor]

I can say the same about you. :) I was puzzled when you said you have to complete those quests. Not something I expected from someone playing SoC since 2007.

[karmic horizon]

If you fail to deliver the artifacts as asked for in 24 hours, they reset back to the first artifact. They do not skip to the next artifact.

[late condor]

Perhaps I may be incorrect about from when the countdown starts, whether its task being taken or failed/completed. But I can tell you with absolutely certainty that if you refuse the task right away, you get the next one.

I don't usually allow the time to run out. I either complete it right away, or I refuse the job.

I just opened unmodded OG release to check, because you had me second-guessing. Went to barkeep and immediately refused the job. It cycled through them.

So yeah, this time you were giving incorrect advice. Maybe you had it confused with some mods you played? I've seen you post a lot of modded screenshots.

I'm not much of a mod person myself, I prefer to play the game as devs designed it.

[karmic horizon]

Nothing I'm talking about is a Mod. I'm well aware of when I added a driving mod or the winter mod. Show me a video of refusing all the artifacts and still getting the armor.

[late condor]

Sure, give me 10-15 minutes to record and upload it.

[late condor]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

[late condor]

Nothing I'm talking about is a Mod. I'm well aware of when I added a driving mod or the winter mod.
I've seen you post screenshots of more major mods, such as Call of Chernobyl or Lost Alpha. Maybe you have confused it from how the quests behave in those mods.

[karmic horizon]

Those are NOT Mods added to the base games of SoC, CS or CoP. Those are separate entities with different content. Don't change the subject with talking about something I didn't mention.

[late condor]

Just trying to come up with reasonable explanations for why you might be confused.

[karmic horizon]

We are talking two different things I guess. I'm talking about the completion of jobs and being give the next. You are talking about accomplishing nothing by refusing a job you took.

Still waiting for a video from one of the three Traders I mentioned, giving away armors for refusing jobs.

[late condor]

Not accomplishing nothing but being given the next job in the sequence. That way, you’re able to get last job reward without doing any of the previous ones. I never made claims about what happens when time runs out.

The question was “What happens if I refuse”. I answered. OP never made claims about running out of time, that is completely irrelevant. He is free to refuse tasks to get better tasks.

[karmic horizon]

That's what I said from the beginning. Failing a job (the time runs out) and then it resets back to the first job in sequence. I NEVER gave any advice about refusing a job.

[late condor]

I mean, even if you fail due to time and go back to the beginning of a sequence, you ARE able to advance back to where you left by taking and refusing jobs.

There are still no long-term consequences for failing. Absolutely none. You either progress immediately, or are set back but are able to get to where you left off.

[karmic horizon]

It never crossed my mind to try and game the system, by refusing jobs I just took and then to see what would happen.

[late condor]

I guess we all keep learning stuff about the games years later.

I figured out which guns NPCs prefer to take over others only last year.

I will get you a nightstar tourist suit video tomorrow, I checked my stashes and I’m out of night stars.

But the system is the same for them all, it wouldn’t make a difference.

[karmic horizon]

That's not the type of advice I would give. My advice is you take the job and what happens if you do it and what will be given next. I wonder if the refusal option scam is new to the digital version.

Can you go to General Voronin, be give the first of 6-7 jobs and then refuse them all in sequence? I don't see the advantage to doing that.

[late condor]

I have been doing this for many years now, way before I even got the game on steam. It’s not new.

While it’s more fun to do the jobs in order, OP asked specifically what happens if he refuses, so I explained the technicalities behind it.

[late condor]

I guess it would allow you to get the sniper VLA faster.

The advantage is in getting end-of-sequence items ahead of time.

And well the earlier jobs are not going anywhere. You can just pick them up again in 24h.

[karmic horizon]

Yeah, that's what I would like to see, the reward given after taking and refusing each job like you say.

You can see here, which jobs are given once and which jobs are repeatable to get repeatable rewards.

"Protect Border" in the AW is one of my favorite, since so many people can't do it once.

[late condor]

done, check out #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[late condor]

while some jobs non-repeatable, it's not correct to state they're given once as they're still safe to fail for as long as their target is still valid 24 hours later.

they can be completed once, but any cyclic quest can be given an infinite amount of times technically for as long as its target is valid

[late condor]

I am surprised to see you only completed “Find the weapon of Dutier” once. You know that you can trade his unique Obokan for another gun and recomplete the task, right?

By trade I mean give him another gun and force him to drop the current one, not trade for money.

He will gladly throw it away if you give him any AKM taken from the Arena (obtainable through bugs). Or the easier way is to shoot his gun before giving it to him, and then he’ll gladly take any regular Obokan/AKM provided it’s in better condition.

And then you just give him his weapon back, every 24 hours. And repeat.

[karmic horizon]

Yes, I've done that in many previous games. You can take a TRs-301 with ammo, and endlessly repeat that. I think in this game I kept the unique Obokan and collected it with the others. I think you have already seen that video.

[late condor]

I may have, I went through your channel but I don’t recall every single thing you did. It’s impressive still.

[karmic horizon]

I will admit, it never crossed my mind to see what would happen by refusing jobs after taking them. My game play is about accomplishment, not refusal.
I think the problem is, "failure" to me is the time running out or if the target is no longer available. "Failure" to you, includes refusal, which to me is not the same.

So can you make one video where you get the free armors by refusing all the artifacts, except the last one I assume? That's an exploit I never dreamed of.

[late condor]

Failure to me is anything that goes into “Failed tasks” in PDA and being accompanied with “Task failed” message in the middle of your screen. Refusal is one way to achieve that.

[late condor]

Yeah but that one will take longer, again, checked my stash in the save and I don’t have a night star for the tourist suit.

[karmic horizon]

Do the Barkeep or Sakharov armor jobs.

[late condor]

Barkeep also needs a Night star. :) And it’s not the last in the sequence, the Goldfish one giving you a TRs is.

[karmic horizon]

Armors not guns.

[late condor]

Yeah but I can only do the Sakharov one. Both Barkeep and Sid want a night star for their armor quests.

[karmic horizon]

Did you ever make the trenchcoat Loners (that jump Yurik) go to the Cordon or stand guard in front of the train station as Loner guards?

[late condor]

I haven't. I have seen them join Bes/Bis at the vehicle graveyard though.

[karmic horizon]

I've got a friend that made SoC videos doing that and other exploits. None of them were through refusals though.

[tawny panther]

What does recoil control do on SOC especially console. I can’t tell if full auto is more or less accurate than normal when it’s cranked up or not.

[tawny panther]

stalker shadow of Chernobyl where to store extra gear

[fair sorrel]

Find a box in any safe zone

[latent topaz]

Hilfe, I keep crashing in the red forest for Clear sky ._.

[late condor]

This just about tells us nothing, post crash logs

[torpid rapids]

After watching the Stalker movie, I'm now realizing that Yantar's yellow monochrome filter is basically emulating the filter from the movie

[late condor]

That’s a far reach if I ever heard one

[torpid rapids]

I guess you didn't watch the movie. They use the filter to convey hopelessness at the start/end of the movie and it's only used at the edge of the zone. Most of the movie is in color.

The area is the same too. Yantar is at the edge of the map. It contains a research facility (X-16, research bunker), former military outpost (this is where all the military zombies are at), and connects towards the zone via train (how they enter the zone in the movie).

I mean the game literally uses bolts, calls it the Zone, has a wish granter, is literally called Stalker, and you think its a reach that they were inspired in other ways?

[late condor]

I think that people draw way too many parallels. It's a point of inspiration, sure, but the actual elements taken from Roadside Picnic and Stalker (1979) beyond the base concept of the anomalous Zone are far and few.

Yellow filter in particular is used for psy emission effects, not hopelessness.

[torpid rapids]

I didn't say it was used in the game for hopelessness, I said that in the movie it was.

Why do you think they picked yellow? Just a coincidence?

[late condor]

Think so, yeah. It's a primary color. Many different colors of post-effects are already used for other things. Green and purple for NVGs, gray for radiation.

[torpid rapids]

They took quite a lot of inspiration. The Zone making people go mad, for one. In the game it's the psy effects. In the movie its just an effect of the zone.

[torpid rapids]

They did not have to use any filters 🤷 Could've chosen red. Could've chosen blue. But they chose yellow.

[late condor]

I think it's hard to say which of those are original ideas that happened to draw parallels with stuff existing in the movie and the book. The actual borrowed stuff is pretty rare. Oasis room in CoP is directly borrowed from the film, not gonna deny that. The hospital in CS is based on the movie as well. The concept of Gold Sphere / Wish Granter yeah... but i don't think it makes sense to try to view every little detail of original trilogy through the lens of the movie.

There were other inspirations too, you know? The Forgotten Experiment by Strugatsky brothers is pretty much where the concept of emissions came from. Some design documents in CS directly mentions Lem's Solaris as a source of inspiration.

[torpid rapids]

I mean it's still very obviously a massive inspiration. But you draw the line at color filters? The NVG and radiation effects are bog standard, but yellow filters are not.

Never seen another game use a yellow filter outside of maybe desert type levels.

and this is very clearly an 'old film yellow monochrome filter' (but with radiation!)

very similar to the movie.

[late condor]

I think the color yellow is generic enough to more likely be a coincidence than a deliberate reference

[torpid rapids]

Yeah, you're probably right. It would be crazy for Stalker to have a visual reference to Stalker.

[late condor]

It wouldn't be, but that reference would have to be something a bit less generic than color yellow. Otherwise you will start seeing references in every concrete pillar, patch of grass and a power line. I understand how the concept of things existing in two medias without being references is baffling though.

[tawdry cargo]

Istg some dude on another server im in packed himself with meds and is now trying to convince me the USS is Soviet

[torpid rapids]

It is probably also a coincidence that both medias use the filter to represent psychological effects.

[late condor]

Not saying it's absolutely impossible, but a really far reach. With how obvious all the other references are, this one is way too subtle to be one.

[torpid rapids]

The existence of the obvious does not negate the existence of the subtle.

[outer plinth]

Are the enhanced versions of the trilogy made on the stalker 2 engine?

[late condor]

No, they’re made on a heavily modified CoP engine with individual xrGame.dll still preserved. They’re obviously not running on UE5, they barely look different lol.

[outer plinth]

Ah, thanks. I haven't seen what they look like yet, figured I would just play the enhanced versions eventually.

[late condor]

Not worth it for the time being, they're inferior in almost every way you can imagine. It is getting better with patches, but it has so much work ahead to even achieve parity with originals, let alone be an enhanced edition.

[outer plinth]

Sounds fair to me, we all got them for free anyways, didn't we?

[late condor]

Debatable. Originals were delisted, they raised the prices upon announcing EE too.

Also pre-EE, you could get the trilogy on 80-90% discount. Now we haven't seen more than 20%.

[torpid rapids]

🏴‍☠️ 🫡

[grizzled rock]

greenlightyt has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lilac blaze]

In call of pripyat do you get stash locations like in the others games where the loot isn't in them if you find them before hand?

[summer elbow]

Quest rewards are not tied to each other. They're naturally not "free" either, rather just what they are, and not even always worth it in the end, so I also skip them by refusing to do the job.

In my freeplay, I never give Sakharov the "Moonlight" artifact, for example

but the "Sea Urchin" is a renewable reward from Lukash (iirc) so that one is no problem

[karmic horizon]

Yeah, this is new to me to ask for a job and then refuse it. My playthroughs have always been about accomplishment. Not intentional and deliberate rejection of objectives.

[summer elbow]

The thing is, you don't get an option to refuse the task after taking it so u gotta make sure you dont have the sought after item in the inventory

i.e. you only get the option to refuse it if you don't have that item in the inventory

[karmic horizon]

That's kind of nonsensical. If you have the item in your inventory, there would be no reason to refuse it.

[summer elbow]

what

[late condor]

A Moonlight is far more valuable than 10K RU and 3 scientific medkits.

Only 6 places where it’s guaranteed, 6 anomalies each with 20% chance to spawn one and 16 boxes that have 1% chance to have it inside.

Entirely non-renewable too. Unlike the money and scientific medkits, which can be acquired ad infinitum.

[late condor]

No, you can find stashes on your own in CoP. You don’t have to get coordinates.

[karmic horizon]

I don't sell any artifacts. I only give them up to complete missions.

[late condor]

And I keep them in a stash unless I can reliably have a renewable source of them. :)

Giving one out for a mission is a really bad idea.

It's one of the few quests you are better off refusing even if you've got the item.

[karmic horizon]

You and I have different playing philosophies. I like to complete missions, regardless of the rewards. You like to take missions and then refuse them because you find failure more rewarding.

[late condor]

Not because I find failure more rewarding, but becuase failure is, as a matter of fact, more rewarding. If you compare what you lose to what you gain, a completion of that task doesn't give you much.

[lilac blaze]

Oh neat!

[torpid rapids]

As long as you're having fun, that's all that matters.

[plush gorge]

does anyone have a good guide or documentation on modding soc enhanced edition, as in making mods for it.

[plush gorge]

does anyone have soc enhanced edition save file location?

[plush gorge]

ur tweaking

i can see it

[torpid rapids]

I think most people here are not fans of the enhanced edition tbh

[simple jolt]

Is there a way to fix somehow that annoying freeze after couple of minutes in the Shadow of Chernobyl - Enhanced Edition? I have the gog version.

[cinder geode]

no

[late condor]

Play the original.

[tame grove]

Community fixes are always a thing

[karmic horizon]

Barkeep creepin'

[late condor]

There aren't any for EE, as far as I am aware.

[torpid rapids]

What's with the barkeep's TV?

It looks like someone playing Stalker

Is it some kind of stalker reality TV show?

Is it the videogame, Stalker?

Is he watching a body camera from someone's mission?

It seems really weird that he would be watching this of all things, and he seems addicted to it too. Day or night, it's always on the TV.

Nobody else seems to care about the TV either.

Everyone else in the bar is minding their own business.

[late condor]

It’s a footage from an early prototype

I think a full vid was recovered at some point

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gecqRtg69zI this is the full vid but only a small part of it is used in-game

[light shuttle]

A part of that video it's used in the trailer of Children of The Zone plot.

[torpid rapids]

This is so cool to see