pc-specs

[tawny thicket]

Nothing crazy just visual bugs but they are all really freaking perplexing
Like how do you have one tab run at 144hz and.another at 30 lmao

[plucky quail]

Worst is when i need to restart my PC because of the mouse lock. Cant do anything.

[tawny thicket]

Yeah that sucks too

[plucky quail]

Thats another thing but idk if its cuz of the APP or driver. I would need to check that

Man IDK what amd is doing atm but its just full of shi. Turning in to Nvidia APP with bad performance and bugs.

I guess just that Nvidia APP got better over time

[plucky quail]

Good that I am not the only one having it

[tawny thicket]

Hasnt hapened to me in a while but i just avoid using the app in general anyway

Last it happened was when i was messing with AFMF in ark

Also the last time i spent much time on the overlay

[plucky quail]

I try to find the best RIS setting for wows cuz it has the worst TAA. Even worse than UE5 games. Full truth. But it locks it now every time.

[tawny thicket]

How do you do worse than UE5 TAA lmao

[plucky quail]

I guess its cuz they have a heavily upgraded DX9 game to DX11 that tries it best with the worst information you can get. The non AA looks like Stalkers non AA mode. So really ass.

[thorny remnant]

has a linux user its awfull

[tender patrol]

What app?? O_o

[plucky quail]

@pure ibex You cant say that when your mouse also gets locked

[pure ibex]

Huh?

[plucky quail]

In stalker you told me last year with 25.12 driver

[pure ibex]

Oh yah

[plucky quail]

Fake news @pure ibex said that he had issues and i dont think he had that before RDNA4

[pure ibex]

i had it happen once ever

[past escarp]

My videodrivers just deleted themselves(or windows deleted it)

[plucky quail]

Not the driver just the app. Doing stuff rn that is kinda broken.

[past escarp]

Anyways it just stopped working correctly, so i deleted drivers with ddu(just to be sure) and then i installed adrenalin again

[coarse linden]

"oPtImIzE" aka visually neutering the game and using cheap tricks to meet limits imposed by hardware that was obsoleted in a year?

1080p being distant wet dream and had to run games without antialiasing if you wanted to reach 30fps since it nuked the fps

I would not call it well optimized games era. Back then people just didnt btch about it constantly and just bought stronger hardware when it came out

[plucky quail]

EHHH wrong

[tawny thicket]

PT ? hell naw

i think the ms timing of path tracing at 4k alone would go over 16ms

[plucky quail]

They did optimize the shit out of the games just to fit it in.

[tawny thicket]

let alone with geometry and objects in the world

[coarse linden]

And still ran like ass on that eras gpus

[plucky quail]

What you want from that past? 90FPS with 4K? ofc they aint going to run after your standard of today. But they did run the best they could. We are in 2026 and they run meh sometimes. That games still get updates after 2 years of release for something like better LOD is crazy. This game is a example enough.

[coarse linden]

What i want is people to stop looking at the past with rose tinted glasses thinking it was so much better and how everything was perfect. Its pointless

[plucky quail]

Well Optimization was better. Talking about the past on diff things then i might agree on things. But fact is they optimized it heavily back then.
Not every game was that in 2000s but many more than we got now. Like much more

[tawny thicket]

idk why you picked 1999 - 2005 tbh

i wouldve went with 2010s

[coarse linden]

Because 2010 was the cursed console port era

[plucky quail]

Console and DRM. Not even talking about where we needed a Online Acc to run the games

[past escarp]

i mean, they still at least made some tewaks to make something being able to run games. developers were trying to find way to make something work. now its like "we make game and thats it. who can play it? maybe some guy with nasa pc, others will suck ass and complain" but then nasa pc cant play game on max setting even 30fps native, so even these guys will complain

[coarse linden]

Heh Call of duty 2 came it required "nasa pc" to be run on max settings and barely hit 30fps. 1600x1200 absolutely no chance even with the "nasa pc"

[coarse linden]

We have come long way from days when simple FXAA ate away more or less 50% of your fps. Most folk ran games on normal settings since their hardware just werent up for high settings and it was relatively expensive to buy new.

Annoying era really you buying 500 dollar gpu which is probably around 900 todays dollars only for it to become pretty much obsolete in 10 months

[fossil jewel]

J’suis

[tawny thicket]

FXAA taking 50% perf ? whaaat

[coarse linden]

Or was it MSAA.. FSAA was basically supersampling

[past escarp]

i believe in ssaa supremacy

apparently wolf also does, cause i just got new lvl

[coarse linden]

lol It is nice for old games when you have fps to spare

[past escarp]

it sure is. it is the best in terms of quality and visual artifacts. unfortunately it is equally bad in terms of performance

[plucky quail]

Kinda but that was msaa and only on older GPUs than 2001.
But at that time you would have bought ATI if you want the best AA performance and quality.
And 1600×1200 was kinda the 4k of that time. Most did use 1024×768.

[thorny remnant]

Wait you had HD??

[swift torrent]

the resolution at this time was still 4:3 not the todays 16:9 16:10 etc.

[past escarp]

5:4 was later?

[swift torrent]

just a bit until Graphicscards had "more" vram 😛

and yeesssss before you write...16:10 was one mode in DOS too, but after then longer not used ;P but the screens wasnt.

[past escarp]

i never actually saw a 16:10 monitor, but i have a 5:4 right next to me now

[coarse linden]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-second-fsr-redstone-game-crimson-desert

Hopefully AMD doesnt sponsorshaft the game. Was kinda looking forward into that

[tawny thicket]

1st Copestone tech demo 🥳

[plucky quail]

Yeah that's their gaming baby to show their software "advancements".
If that flops and nobody wants to use their features then AMD might be cooked. 😭

[past escarp]

well we will se how it is in the future

[winter hamlet]

It wasn't. 320x200 resolution was standard, but it still meant for a 4:3 aspect ratio

[coarse linden]

Guess Nvidia is starting to invest into Linux more.

• Diagnosing GPU and CPU performance bottlenecks in Vulkan and Proton titles.
• Identifying changes to API usage to improve performance and communicating via appropriate channels with third-party developers.
• Implementing driver performance improvements and resolving driver defects.
• Collaborating with engineers on the team and across NVIDIA.
• Developing a driver that leads the industry in quality and performance.

[winter hamlet]

What you said is a buzzword salad that describes basic driver maintenance

[coarse linden]

Naturally. Still its for linux side which Nvidia is known to be lacking at

[plucky quail]

Basic for most, special treatment for some. Thats something that nvidia usually didnt do on linux. So good that they start. Would also be AMDs last Castle that gets kicked down.

[gusty valley]

How to improve input lag besides turning the frame gen off and enabling Nvidia reflex?

[winter hamlet]

check your monitor settings if its running some image enhancements and turn them off.

[plucky quail]

How much FPS

[past escarp]

Not enough

[tawny thicket]

Why would you wanna disable reflex ?

[pastel summit]

Reflex gives me frame pacing issues with V-Sync on

and before everyone starts doing the V-Sync bad thing, not every monitor has G-Sync lol

[tawny thicket]

Your monitor doesnt have VRR ?

[pastel summit]

not really unless you get a really new model (say 2025), professional* monitors usually don't get the fancy gaming stuff

[tawny thicket]

Oh ok
I though VRR was a standard on all displays by now

[pastel summit]

well it's only in recent years that some of them starts getting VRR, and even then they're just there for spec sheet numbers I think.

take the U2725QE, it still has issues with motion handling even after all these years as per RTings lol
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/u2725qe

personally I don't care that much, long as color accuracy is good and games look poppy on my monitor then I'm happy. I only play single player stuff anyways

[coarse linden]

I mean adaptive sync is DisplayPort feature which AMD brands as FreeSync

So technically if monitor got DP 1.4 its kinda guaranteed to have support for VRR or if its got HDMI 2.1

[past escarp]

holy mother of input lag, thats humongous input lag you must have

[pastel summit]

🤷‍♂️ plays fine to me, I can't really tell the difference with V-Sync off myself

[pastel summit]

Mine has DP 1.4 and yet there's no VRR support funnily enough

[coarse linden]

Interesting.. Should have it unless manufacturer went out of their way to disable it

[past escarp]

good for you then, cause i remember when i tried turning on v-sync in some game for th first time - it had huge input lag, so i never touched that thing ever again

[tawny thicket]

Yeah
Vanguard already leaked it

Its like FSR 4.0 but less smearing and ghosting + some crazy sharpener

No stability improvements tho

[plucky quail]

Really? link?

[tawny thicket]

https://imgsli.com/NDUxODY2

[plucky quail]

Like next month?

[tawny thicket]

1080p perf mode
Its meant to ship with the 26.3.1 driver

[plucky quail]

Man i wish you had least 1440P. Any zoom in looks like i am playing 720P

[tawny thicket]

I feel though 4.1 was much less stable for me tho

In that game

[plucky quail]

Stable like shimmer?

[tawny thicket]

At anything below quality

[plucky quail]

Also are the clouds better or is it normal in that game?

[tawny thicket]

Idfk
Coulda been lumen too, it is a UE5 game

[plucky quail]

You really need to update Cyber prank

Anything other than UE5 game

[tawny thicket]

I lowered volumetric cloud settings manually, works for some maps in that game but for that one id need to up its rez by atleast 3x to get stable volumetrics

[plucky quail]

Holy movement looks so much better

4.0 looks like FSR3.1 ngl

[tawny thicket]

Nah 3.1 is 10x more pixelated and doesnt smear/ghost

UP is like crazy oversharpened as well with it

[plucky quail]

ofc idk what game you mean but like 3.1 looks sometimes like that. Depends on what the dev values more. Some smear more and some look more blurry. Or ghost more. But 3.1Q on 1440P idk how it is on 1080P

[tawny thicket]

Yeah true
Most UE5 games are in the shimmering heaven category tho

[gusty valley]

I don't want to

[plucky quail]

Close thing here

[coarse linden]

Heh Nvidia screwed up

Newest driver that they pulled causes fans to stop spinning completely if you have 3rd party software control of them

So if you installed 595.59 better revert it

Sad really since it came with support for the Shader model 6.9 and all those new DX12 features

Shader Execution Reordering (SER) AMD Radeon™ RX 9000 series supports API but doesn’t reorder.

Also kinda sad..

[plucky quail]

iirc AMD doesnt have SER. It was false alarm from microsoft.
Maybe SER will be as driver but who knows

[coarse linden]

https://videocardz.com/newz/microsoft-ships-shader-model-6-9-in-directx-12-agility-sdk-1-619

[coarse linden]

Pretty sure that was about the opacity micromaps that was shown as AMD having support at first but removed later

[plucky quail]

Could be. But by the looks SER does AMD nothing rn at least. How does it support but dont work 😭

[hollow kettle]

Amd is on some bs man. Wtf are they doing with redstone support? They flopped so hard

Literally every bit of hype they had built up is dead

[past escarp]

They never waste a chance to waste a chance

At least their gpu part

[dense edge]

can someone help me get better performance

[past escarp]

depends on what do you want to do? like you want mods or help with game settings?

[dense edge]

Game settings, I can get 120+ in 1440p with fsr in Quality but its not smooth at all

[winter hamlet]

Disable any frame generation. Also do not skip the shader compilation when you start the game.

[dense edge]

Did that

[winter hamlet]

Did you try lowering the settings to the minimum? If it's smooth then, you can start turning graphics up from there to see what might be causing it.

[past escarp]

ive heard that timings on memory can make situation better, but im not sure. and yes, try to set eveything to low and tune your graphics up. my recommendation is to not touch hair settings and probably leave it be at low-mid level

[late ferry]

yanaxxer has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[tame pagoda]

Hi. Could someone please help me make the game run smooth....

My PC specs:

  Nvidia RTX 4070 12GB
  HyperX Fury 64GB of RAM 

[plucky quail]

Frames?

[tame pagoda]

I don't know it doesnt feel smooth at all

[plucky quail]

and res. Best if you include Settings

[plucky quail]

You can check the frames

[tame pagoda]

Is there game indicator for fps?

[plucky quail]

Use the Nvidai app

[tame pagoda]

Give me a second please

I have 65-70 fps

[plucky quail]

And 1%lows?

[tame pagoda]

76fps 36 1% low

[plucky quail]

What are the settings?

What res?

[tame pagoda]

I used Nvidia APP optimisation, and its medium settings and resolution is my native 2560x1440

[plucky quail]

Do you have Resizable bar on? Or Expo?

[tame pagoda]

Both are on , i have expo 1 on 6000mhz cl 36

Now in this starting village I have flucuating fps 80-100 and with 50 1% low , not consisntent and depends where I look

[plucky quail]

Can you check how much of your GPU gets used?

[plucky quail]

And outside of it?

Because everyone has bad FPS on the starting village

[tame pagoda]

Gpu usage is 70% and cpu 70% , and it jumps up or down both the gpu and cpu gpu from 50% to 83% and back

Oh so you say that everyone have bad fps in this village?

[plucky quail]

Yeah

Not even 9950X3D and 5090 User are safe from it

[tame pagoda]

So its more about the UE5 i guess ?

[plucky quail]

Yup

[tame pagoda]

Thanks for your help, the fps kinda settled now

[trail sparrow]

I went through this as well.

I run 5080 w/ 9800X3D. Download optimization mods from Nexusmods, and turn on DLSS and DLAA frame generation. Set foliage quality to low, sharpness to 40 and you’ll see 180-200fps smooth. Village FPS around 160.

The devs left many UE5 variables at default for some reason, so it wasn’t relatively hard for the mod community to find and alter

[tame pagoda]

Thank you very much , this helped a ton

[trail sparrow]

yah no prob

Also reduce draw distance to. For some reason the foliage texture and render distance f this game

[crisp latch]

Me playing on 48 fps on my 2080 s

Can’t imagine running stalker 2 at 120 fps

[swift torrent]

huh? Why? Starting village running normal like any other place here O.o What do i miss?

[coarse linden]

Lot of NPCs will choke the CPU. UE5 problem

Especially if they have "rich lives"

And this months steam hardware survey is worthless.. Influx of chinese cafe PCs inflating the metrics again

[trail sparrow]

Like looking through sandpaper 💀 the max i was able to achieve w/ frame generation off was 110-130. AI is powerful

[plucky quail]

if normal is bad then yes

[plucky quail]

Not even 5090s can they cap at 110fps. Well except they use FG what is not the same.

Also see the good side. You play cinematic mode

[late ferry]

hanime_master has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[past escarp]

what is rr and nrc?

[swift torrent]

depends on what everybodys expection is i think. For me over 60FPS is enough O.o Gsync makes everything okai until 170FPS/Hz

[tawny thicket]

Ray regen and neural radiance caching

[past escarp]

so basically one gives better looking rt, and the other one is ai bs

[tawny thicket]

nope lol

NRC makes PT look and run better (also makes regular RT look better)
Ray regen is closer to AI BS that NRC is kek

[tawny thicket]

cuz AMD's ray regen looks like 💩

[past escarp]

so they just made confusing names, that really suit better to other thing?

[tawny thicket]

nah, Nvidia made NRC a long time ago, and it does have an ML/Neural part

[past escarp]

so amd just doesnt have it

maybe they will make this, but im still not sure if ray tracing really is a good thing. i mean it takes too much performance for usually minor visual improvements

[tawny thicket]

its been released by AMD already
no games support it yet
but crimson desert should

in the demo sample it looked promising

[past escarp]

honestly - for like 90% of the time - rt is just too expensive to care abt it

[coarse linden]

SER would make PT run better but AMD cant do it on this gen

[tawny thicket]

NRC also makes PT run better
but yeah they cant, no HW support
games would need to get a DXR 1.2 update for it to work anyway, which i doubt most would bother

[coarse linden]

Technically Cyberpunk and alan wake 2 use it and maybe indiana jones

[tawny thicket]

you mean NRC or DXR 1.2 ?

[coarse linden]

SER

Its quite literally Nvidia tech that they gave to microsoft to be integrated into DX

[tawny thicket]

makes sense then

[coarse linden]

Same with opacity micromaps really

Surprised radiance cache have not yet ended up in DX but guess that just waits until Nvidia gets to demo it with whatever game

[tawny thicket]

RE requiem has NRC

and remix too i think

[tawny thicket]

tho not sure if its only if you use RE framework or if its used by default

[coarse linden]

Remix?

[tawny thicket]

nvidia's AI remaster toolkit thingy
that kinda like sucks IMO

or well, it does suck unless you have 40 series+

[coarse linden]

It cant be since that tool only works with DX 8 and DX9 games

[tawny thicket]

but it uses vulkan for rendering i thought

[coarse linden]

Yeah but its a mod tool

There is no sense nor really possibility to have it in. Otherwise no AMD card would be able to run the bloody game

[tawny thicket]

it does have SER and OMM tho AFAIK
also SER barely boosts perf in it

[plucky quail]

SER isnt the most important thing AMD would need. They need generally better RT HW. But ofc would help with performance

[coarse linden]

SER is not toggle feature

[plucky quail]

Make it run soother

[coarse linden]

But makes sense that those 2 features are in if AMD is locked out of path tracing in that game

[tawny thicket]

(i meant for remix here)

[tawny thicket]

in regular RT RDNA 4 is on par with ADA and Lackwell tho
in PT RDNA 4 is like ampere level

[coarse linden]

Nvidia comes up with new gimmicks and features to RT faster then AMD can copy them

Then pushes these onto game devs that implement them in so causing AMD to lack behind constantly since most are hardware solutions

Its kinda sad since AMD is in spiral where they cant compete. They are forced to copy the gimmicky features while they lack market share to leverage devs to invent their own gimmicky features.

[plucky quail]

I mean if AMD would actually copy it what we see now they dont

[coarse linden]

In current market AMD cards pretty much only make sense to folk who want to game on Linux and even that might get squashed in few years

Atleast AMD got Ryzens going for it so it wont go out of business anytime soon

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7GHivwL9dw

BTW SER in action at PT.
(IDK why he has actual stalker music in there)

[coarse linden]

Think the Alan wake 2 devs said on average SER reduces latency 1/3

[plucky quail]

AMD does this all the time and it works on CPU. Throwing HW out and not developing SW enough. Even intel has better SW than AMD in the CPU side.

[coarse linden]

Probably cant hire enough people to do the R&D to improve software stack

[plucky quail]

Yeah probably cant. (🥱 💸 )

[coarse linden]

But they sure can buy out AI startups

[winter hamlet]

AMD when product not selling: "we cant afford more software engineers"; AMD when product selling: "product selling good as-is, why hire more software engineers"?

[late ferry]

vrf_farr has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[winter hamlet]

Meanwhile Geforce software engineers: crickets (moved to the AI office)

[plucky quail]

There are no Engineers just one AI doing all the stuff

[winter hamlet]

At least one had to vibe-code the AI that is doing said stuff

[past escarp]

so thats what happened to their drivers huh

[wintry needle]

the vibe coding is automated too

[real kraken]

FSR 4.1 got leaked

(And it's working on RDNA 3)

Better quality image

https://www.techpowerup.com/346795/early-amd-fsr-4-1-dll-update-reportedly-leaks-with-minor-visual-improvements

[tawny thicket]

only on linux

like 4.0
also old news : ))

[thorny remnant]

Fsr4.1 on vulkan or play battlefield/lol choose one

[winter hamlet]

You can keep all of that, thanks

[thorny remnant]

Now I wish we could use fsr4 on unsupported games

[winter hamlet]

I'd prefer if we could just force MSAA on Vulcan from the control panel

[pure ibex]

8tb ssds are apparently now almost 3k usd

fucken blast my head off with a shot gun man

[real kraken]

Just like with 4.0, I'm sure it's will be soon available on windows for RDNA3

:)

I just want that AMD publish the FSR 4 for RDNA3 and RDNA2...

[thorny remnant]

Damn 8tb ssd here I am feeling rich for having 4tb ssd

[pure ibex]

framework is still selling them for like 900 apparently

[thorny remnant]

Sadly I don't believe amd will do that

[real kraken]

That's stupid...

[tawny thicket]

optiscaler says hello

also you can use FSR 4 on vulkan with v0.9 of optiscaler

[thorny remnant]

Not really you still need upscaling support of some variety to use optiscalar

[tawny thicket]

that'd need game by game mods
so thats not happening

[coarse linden]

Vulkan. This aint star trek

[tawny thicket]

MSAA doesnt even work properly with deferred rendering

[sage trench]

this game crashes with fsr anyway on rx 9000 series and seems they don't care much about fixing it

[tawny thicket]

Wai wa

Ive Never had that issue

[sage trench]

i guess not everyone has it ,but many ppl reported to GSC already, me included, there are posts on reddit, error code 887A0006, driver time out, happening on RX 9000 series when using FSR, not sure when they are going to fix it, since some ppl say they responded to them through email, they acknowledged the issue and are working on it, evern since 1.8 patch it was an issue

[past escarp]

Never had any issues

[past escarp]

Maybe it happens on some version of drivers? Cause i havnt used pc in a while

[sage trench]

dunno man, tried a lot of things , none worked, TSR was a bit more stable and did not have a lot of crashes, but still it happened, fsr crashes, tried every driver since 25.9.2 and onward, tried any other UE5 game, all of them work fine, tried not using FSR 4 overdrive and fsr 3, same stuff, tried not using any frame gen, same, simply put game will crash randomly and make the driver timeout code 887A0006, no matter what i do, and it is only this game

I played it last spring with old gpu, no issues, finished the game, now game runs better, I would say smooth for me, but it matters little cause I can't play it since december patch and no solution in sight, just waiting for the april patch

[coarse linden]

Usually earlier driver fixed that back when I was still using AMD gpu

Was abysmal time.. Needed 3 different drivers for different games because AMD and their rotten wine for first few years

But that was 5700 XT

[sage trench]

it's funny, I had 0 issues with old amd gpu, but don;t know what to think of it now

rx 6800xt, it was a beast

[coarse linden]

Try earlier driver. Might magically fix it and all it costs is few reboots

[sage trench]

tried 25.9.2 worked fine firs hour, 2 and crashed twice after that

not sure if older than than supports fsr 4 at all 😄

[tawny thicket]

i think every driver had stutter 2 whitelisted

[tawny thicket]

although quality upscale mode is broken on all of them unless you use optiscaler (and force the proper model)

[coarse linden]

AMD got different models too?

[sage trench]

never used optiscaler, I know fsr 4 worked well in cyberpunk and clair obscure for me

[tawny thicket]

ehh
just presets for how many previous frames FSR 4 can use (or how many jitters it can use, i dont know)
the DLL just calls them "model" 0-5 for some reason
each one is meant for a certain mode, 0 for AA, 1 for Q, 2 for B, 3 for P, 5 for UP, 4 for probably DRS
and the DLL doesnt always select the correct model at quality mode, which leads to "bubbles of shimmering" on FP8

as well the UE plugin for FSR has an improper upscale ratio set for quality mode, it sets resolution scale to 66.67% instead of 66.666...
so for example instead of 1280x720 at 1080p quality you get 1281x721 which can mess up model selection sometimes and totally breaks the int8 version

[coarse linden]

2 guesses why

[coarse linden]

Christian dev seeing the numbers decided to act

[real kraken]

Hello everyone, I finally made FSR 4 work on my 7800XT in Stalker 2 !
Yes, I run FSR4 on RDNA3 gpu in Stalker 2 (windows 11)

This prove that FSR 4 works on RDNA2 or RDNA 3 gpu, so if you have an 7000 or 6000 series gpu, I recommand you to test it.

1440P, Epic settings, FSR Quality preset :

FSR 3.1 Quality - 78FPS

FSR 4.0.2 Quality - 70FPS

The difference is very noticeable, especially hair and foliage. in my opinion the loss of performance worth it for the quality improvement.

So here how I did :

First I downloaded the Optiscaler (release build) : https://github.com/OptiScaler/OptiScaler

Then I put these file :

• OptiScaler.ini
• OptiScaler.dll
• setup_windows.bat

in -> \steamapps\common\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Binaries\Win64

After that I run the setup_windows.bat and I select 1 to all option.

Then I download FSR 4 leaked file for INT8 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hp4v8wmaK3-yKU1is4p0foeeZiWHtjtq/view

Then I put these file :

• amd_fidelityfx_framegeneration_dx12.dll
• amd_fidelityfx_dx12.dll
• amd_fidelityfx_upscaler_dx12.dll (WARNING : there is two file with the same name, choose the dll that is in the subfolder FSR4 INT8, which 39 711Ko, otherwise it will be FSR 3.1.5)

in -> \steamapps\common\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Binaries\Win64

Launch Stalker 2, Enable FSR 3 in the settings,
When you are in stalker 2 press "INSERT" to open the optiscaler menu. in the menu select FSR 3.X and click "Change Upscaler" to apply.
and just bellow, you will see FFX Settings, choose FSR 4.0.2. click "Change upscaler" to apply.

And that's it. To see the difference, choose FSR 3.1.5 or 4.0.2 in FFX Upscaler

[tawny thicket]

why not copy all of opti's files then do the int8 DLL switcheroo ?

[real kraken]

you can do that as well, you just need to change the 3 dll that I mentionned.
(And choose the amd_fidelityfx_upscaler_dx12.dll INT8 leaked not the original one)

[plucky quail]

So i got 2 days on 9070XT and i dont really get the people that say FSR4 is soo good and Native is dead. 4.0.3 has still branch issues and blurriness and Ghosting. If DLSS3 was worse than that then idk how people are allowed to drive with such eyes.
4.1 didnt seem to fix it either. It did fix the blurriness and improve kinda the other 2 issues.

Also tested Native of it. And its a mixed bag. Thing is i dont have lot of issues with Aliasing so it doesnt hurt me as much as other would maybe do. But Testing in GoT did have good and bad things. Sharpness dropped and lot and some ?Grass? idk what you call it did get mushed like normal TAA would do. But else it improved visuals. Less Aliasing and you can say more detail. Like thin branches distance had more constant Line and was more visible.
Tho in games with bad TAA or anything basically it looked really good. Really no downside. Except BF6. I just couldnt hit my FPS without turning it off. It was already on the edge on the XTX and hitting at the lowest not falling below my needed Frame rate but with the XT it just couldnt hit that. (AND i like it more sharp in that game so no AA in that game=much more sharp game)

[tawny thicket]

In the first paragraph, what game were you testing ?

If its stutter 2, were you using DLSS inputs ? Cuz AFAIK FSR inputs are much blurrier in stutter 2

[plucky quail]

I tested in stutter 2 with driver toggle for 4.0 and opti for 4.1

But dlss inputs

4.1 looked sharper. But some games it lookes like RIS on 100%

All tho in motion. Because I don't see why Upscaler should be compared to picture and not a film

[plucky quail]

Oh and i want to clarify and not forget to praise FSR4 up in games but it looks incredible good in games least with AA.

[long sedge]

would i be able to run stalker 2 on my pc? (at some what stable performance maybe 60fps avg?)
amd ryzen 5 2400g
16gb ram
nvidia geforce gtx 1650

jw before i buy, cuz i heard the game is poorly optimized and i do kinda have a mid pc

[plucky quail]

No where near the spec you would need to run this game

Their minimum says that it should be enough but its false

[tender patrol]

Should be enough for 1080p / low / 30 FPS

[mighty barn]

720p

or 480p should be enuff

with no dlss or the like

[pastel summit]

sorry bud, you need 6 GB of VRAM as minimum for this game. 4 GB won't cut it, I've tried everything on my laptop and it's a lagfest no matter what lol

[pastel summit]

nah that's still not enough, S2 absolutely needs 6 GB as min

[mighty barn]

I have seen people using 100% res scale with FSR on 720p low get 60 stable-ish on like cordon

tho in the nothern areas its bound to drop

and I don think any card can face the challenge that is faust boss fight

[pastel summit]

huh, just to be clear - 4GB of VRAM here?

I find this a bit sus without some serious low-end engine.ini used, back when I was trying to run S2 on my laptop nothing literally works 🥲

[mighty barn]

i believe so tho to be fair I am talking of what I heard not what I experienced

[past escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-nuh-uh-scout-tf2-gif-12750436057634665505

[plucky quail]

1080? What you going to say next? 2060 4K?

[plucky quail]

Even the 6GB is a lie. Only works if you game at 480p what is totaly not worth it.

[pastel summit]

🤷‍♂️ let's just agree to disagree here

[plucky quail]

If 8GB in 2026 isnt enough how in the world is 6GB going to cut it

[mighty barn]

million will buy a budget GPU but few will use it sensebly...

[pastel summit]

are we even talking about the same game here? by that logic 12 GB would be the minimum for 1080p, but I can play at 4K just fine lol

whatever you say bud

[plucky quail]

Absolutely not the same thing

You know it. Just making comments for the sake of it.

[pastel summit]

nah, if I have to be frank then I know that your comments are bs and my personal time with this game shows that S2 eats less VRAM then you guys are making the molehills out to be.

benchmarks prove this, too. let's just agree to disagree since we cannot reach the same conclusion on this

[plucky quail]

Thats because you dont know how to test it properly. Never seen a benchmark being able to play this game with 6GB with no issues.

[pastel summit]

well, not everyone can always afford a good GPU. budget class like 4060/5060 really is still the upper limit of what most people can afford in most of the world.

as unfortunately as it is.

[mighty barn]

Id say every single benchmark sucks because it's usually being benchmarked at the start of the game and not in one of the middle main missions where it would be taxxed the hardest

[mighty barn]

lower the res

[plucky quail]

fact. They start the game go around a circle and say done

[pastel summit]

sure, I finished the entire game on a 3050 class GPU but whatever you say.

[mighty barn]

Id say they arent useless, but not completely trustable, its a good guideline

[pastel summit]

well tbf Zalissya isn't that bad of a test given how demanding it was before like patch 1.5/1.6, couldn't remember the exact one.

IIRC even with the 3080 I lose like 10-20 FPS on that place before 1.6?

[mighty barn]

Zalissya taxes your CPU the most but a more busy scene like Assault on the Duga will tax your GPU the most
when talking about testing GPUs Id say thats your best bet

[pastel summit]

yeah I remember now, CPU heavy but also VRAM - really it's that more than anything, if you have VRAM issues then Zalissya shows that right away

[plucky quail]

Cap

[pastel summit]

uh huh

[real kraken]

any news about engine update ?

[pastel summit]

no news, it's coming after 1.9 but won't be here for a while

[plucky quail]

Zalissya is one of the lighter ones. If anything you would try it out in the north. Most people get those issues veryleast their

[real kraken]

Ok thanks

[pastel summit]

me thinks it's gonna be at least summer before engine update or DLC arrives

[real kraken]

😭 I wait since Septembr to play a new playthrough

[pastel summit]

if you want to play it then playing it right now isn't a bad idea either, S2 has come a long way since the initial release.

[real kraken]

Last time I played was 1.5 with mods, and still had a lot of bug and performance issues so when I saw the "2025" roadmap saying that Unreal engine 5 will be updated, I decided to wait to get a better experience (just like with CB2077)

[pastel summit]

that's fair, just keep in mind that engine update will wreck a lot of mods as well.

[real kraken]

I know, I will play in vanilla when it comes

[pastel summit]

alright cool

[long sedge]

L stalker optimization, can work on xbox but not pc balrightttt

[plucky quail]

Xbox is prob 2X faster than what you have

[past escarp]

well thing is - even thou stalker is not great in terms of performance, its not awful. and tbf u have a low-end pc for 2020, what do you expect?

[coarse linden]

So Intel gets its head out of its rear and makes P core only CPU but its not available to consumers... ffs

[ocean yew]

Must have sucked

[past escarp]

my friend played s2 with 3050 (not sure 6 or 8 gb, but i think it was 8gb) nd r7 2700x

[plucky quail]

just shows that intel can make longer lasting platforms

[coarse linden]

Interesting. So CD Projekt Red does collab with Nvidia with Witcher 4

Side effect being since CD Projekt also push their stuff onto UE5 all these new Nvidia techs will come available to other devs lot faster

[ionic remnant]

Still no unreal engine update ?

[past escarp]

Nuh uh

[plucky quail]

Leaked: 31st December 2026

Tbh just jump 5.5 and go for 5.7 lol

[real kraken]

At this point, just go to 5.7

since the engine migration hasn't started yet

[past escarp]

Leaked: september 5th, 2094

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmVBH6CQ24

[plucky quail]

Plus series

[night badger]

hey guys, i have a 7800x3d + 9070xt @ 1440p. When I play on 1440p with FSR4 (Native AA) and medium settings I have (depending on location) 70-80fps. sometimes it goes up to 90. even when its at 90 the game feels choppy. wether its 70, 80 or 90 frames, it feels like I have less then 60 frames. framegen helps (more then 120fps) but game looks worse + artifacting. it also feels like stuttering. not the typical UE5 stuttering here and there, the whole movement feels bad.
no second monitor, newest gpu drivers, fresh install of stalker 2.

[past escarp]

there is a reason why its called stutter 2

i dont think that ur cpu is bottlenecking, gpu is good for s2, so its just stutter 2

[night badger]

damn I went from a laptop with i9 14900hx/rtx4080 with thermal limits and less wattage to a solid PC build and its still garbage like this.
dont get me started on the bad foliage and trees.

[past escarp]

and i went from r7 7700/9070xt to r7 4800h/3050 4Gb

i wouldnt even try playing s2, even though i tried launching it, but after seeing like 15fps in first minute, i decided that its not worth it

[night badger]

yea I played it on release day one on my laptop, but only 1 walktrough because of nostalgia/hype and didnt see all the flaws. when I started the second walktrough I immediatly stopped cuz now I saw all the unoptimized stuff and missing features, up until today.. even after so many updates and with a performance mod its bad, even on a potentionally better PC. dont need 120frames, but atleast the 80frames shouldnt feel like I play with 40 frames. and running in bushes and forests makes me want to poke my eyes 🙁

[night badger]

why?? 😄

[past escarp]

im in process of moving from one country to another, so pc is not with me right now

and if ww3 doesnt destroy the world - maybe i will get to play normal on my pc

[night badger]

I played on RTX4080 laptop before, first with DLSS4 and afterwards testing with DLSS 4.5, which looked a bit better compared to my current 9070XT/FSR4. the foliage of the game itself is so bad that DLSS was able to maintain a bit more stable image. with FSR4 (which is very good for me in other games, for example Tsushima) its not able to compensate the flaws of stalker 2 itself, which DLSS did (even tho only a bit).

[night badger]

it wont. good luck!

[past escarp]

well i hope so, cause its rather tiresome going from one conflict to another

[past escarp]

i played with fsr3 and fsr4, and can say that fsr4 is a huge jumo in quality, but small deatils such as grass, twigs, etc is rather bad, but i believe it has to do with ue5. also as i heard - most of engines setting are untouched, aka they are in default

[past escarp]

also i believe that reason why in tsushima it works better could be that game is made for ps, so it is mostly made to work as good as possible with its gpu/cpu, which are amd`s and probably they could be using some kind of upscaling based on fsr

or it is just implemented better

[tawny thicket]

try using DLSS inputs for FSR 4 via optiscaler

[night badger]

yea good point. in some games you can see that dlss often is better implemented then fsr. but both suck if the optimization of the game itself (visuals, foliage etc) is bad. stutter 2 has potentional if they are done with the huge updates (engine, optimization, ..)and modding community takes over

[tawny thicket]

as when you do that FSR 4 looks a bit better atleast in this game

[night badger]

what is it exactly? i thought I cant run DLSS stuff on my 9070xt. or is it some other minor stuff?

[tawny thicket]

https://github.com/optiscaler/OptiScaler

lets you *convert * DLSS 2+ / FSR 2+ / XeSS into any of those 3

and sometimes DLSS -> FSR looks better than native FSR

dont think it'll fix stutter 2
but it should help

[night badger]

ill give it a try, thanks

[late ferry]

plebnation has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse linden]

Really? Screw you bot

[plucky quail]

The only thing that looked good at 1440P was FSR4.1 Like actually good. Its like DLSS4 for powerlines and overall sharpness. Tho still has the shimmer that all ML Upscaler have. FSR3 just doesnt render them in lol

[plucky quail]

Yeah This game is like all 50% res on the things. Its like they let all render with checkerboard. Polly they did

[coarse linden]

FSR Diamond heh

Rumored to be exclusive RDNA5 heh

But sad that its multiframe gen for consoles

[tawny thicket]

its not a rumor
its ragebait

[ionic remnant]

https://wccftech.com/amd-officially-unveils-fsr-diamond-a-next-gen-upscaling-suite-built-alongside-project-helix-for-the-future-of-gaming/amp/

Limited to rdna5

Hahahhahaha amd is literally worse than nvidia

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-laugh-speed-i-need-this-dormir-pó-ngale-gif-7797077555798666851

i love it its beautifull

Another Marketing Disaster
not AMD's fault for once

[real kraken]

This is what AMD is doing instead of giving FSR 4.1 to older gen

[past escarp]

They need to give it to me

[plucky quail]

it feels rn like they just skiped even RDNA4 now and are fully on 5

Pretty sad that they dont invest in critical moments more

[past escarp]

amd never looses a chance to loose a chance

[real kraken]

Yes...

[late ferry]

drfreddy87 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

stalker091838 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[worn jay]

busy investing in MAGA

while earning 10.5 billion per quarter more than ever

[gritty knoll]

@deft quail May you check my dm

[deft quail]

yeah working on it

[pure ibex]

Rdna4 is more of rx 580 type product

Not a crazy flagship yah know

[past escarp]

still crazy value

[pure ibex]

it be

[past escarp]

also id like to recommend to all the people who would love to torture themselves - buy laptop with 3050 4gb

[winter hamlet]

You can get plenty of torture and headaches by just buying any gaming laptop

[past escarp]

well at least 1 games has more fps on my phone then laptop

[pastel summit]

you said torture, but really it's still on the upper end of what most people could realistically afford in developing nations. a while ago anyways, 4050 6 GB laptops should hopefully be cheaper now

RAMpocalypse be ruining everything for the younger crowd though, rip

[past escarp]

i mean its still terrible and i can barely play online games

[pastel summit]

barely play online games?

I really can't think of anything online that needs more than a 3050 4GB, even BF6 should run decently on it long as you put up with low texture

yeah I take that back, REDSEC seems weirdly demanding on the 3050 4 GB for some reason.

more mainstream titles should be fine, which is realistically what the demographics for a 3050/4050 would use it for I think

[past escarp]

40 fps deadlock and cs2 in like 30-120fps(its really unstable)

[winter hamlet]

If money is tight you should not be buying a laptop for gaming to begin with. Used office desktop+AMD polaris gpu is the extreme budget meta.

[past escarp]

also my laptop is like 3 yrs old so its not bought in ramapocalypse

[pastel summit]

Tight wouldn't be the way I would put it, it's just that electronic goods are more often than not luxury goods in developing nations...and yeah, while PC is always an option some people just don't have the space for it.

[pastel summit]

I think your gaming laptop might have some thermal issues if FPS is unstable as you said, what's your CPU?

Laptops in general can have their coolings clogged up if not properly placed somewhere with ventilation, doubly so with gaming laptops oof

[winter hamlet]

And this is one of the many reasons to avoid gaming laptops.

Space is definitely an issue for some people, but i doubt it's more than a niche segment

[pastel summit]

well, it's not at all niche in many countries where it's common for college students to travel for university studies. far as I know at least.

say SEA? I think it's especially common in Vietnam, where higher education is primarily nested in the few large cities

I would also agree on the principle of laptops overall not being optimal for heavy workloads, just that it's important to keep an open mind and not just judge gaming laptops as the monolithically bad option as it's always made up to be

[winter hamlet]

Hauling a gaming laptop for everyday travel is a pain and should be avoided. I know, I and plenty of my friends had one for university and this is why I'm against them. They are always larger and heavier, have terrible battery and prioritize raw specs (which they don't take advantage most of the time due to cooling issues) instead of build quality, so they are already in terrible shape before they even reach the end of their warranty period. Honestly, if you find yourself in such a spot, it's best to just get a basic laptop with good battery life - tons of easy to run indie games on Steam and other places. After uni I spent tons of time in the countryside where I took my basic 2-core netbook and had a blast playing red alert 2, Stronghold and a bunch of random source engine mods.

[pastel summit]

well, it's a tradeoff after all.

if there's anything I've learned from photography it's that you need proper backpacks for carrying heavier loads, should be no different for laptops.

[mighty barn]

if youre debating getting a gaming laptop, you should instead look at enterprise level laptops destined for professionals
since these are destined to be bulk purchased by companies, they will always float into the second hand market and they are serviceable

[pastel summit]

oh yeah, that's literally what I did for college 🤣

HP ZBooks aren't designed to have long battery runtime, but their build quality is great and actually upgrade-able depending on the model

I settled for an used Studio G7 which doesn't have that good of a spec, yet great for general usage

[past escarp]

ryzen 7 4800H. also yes, probably it has, cause it never been cleaned. but temperatures usually are around 70-80C so im not sure about that

[past escarp]

man. i now play on some table under TV, while sitting on the floor cause its height is roughly bit lower then my knees

[past escarp]

i wouldnt tell that its heavy or big, just normal 15" laptop, maybe a bit more heavy, but nothing particularly worse then non-gaming one

[past escarp]

and id like to add that this drops occur only in cs2 in certain maps(like ancient is super unstable, inferno just sucks), in other situations it relates only to in-game events like a lot of visual effects so its just bad performance

[north linden]

Has anyone else experienced something like this? Specifically, the further I get into the story, the worse my game runs. Before heading to the swamps, I was getting around 50 FPS, but after the attacks on the Institute and Duga, my frame rate gradually dropped to an average of 20–30 FPS. The weirdest part is that whenever I enter a dialogue or open the pause menu, the FPS immediately jumps back up. As soon as I finish the dialogue, it drops again. Maybe some old, unfinished mission scripts are causing this general slowdown or something—any ideas?

[plucky quail]

Hardware? You also mean more story or just the map going further up.

[north linden]

No, storyline wise. Hardware: RTX 5070TI, Ryzen 5700X3D, 32GB Ram

[plucky quail]

are you on 4k or why do you even get 50 fps with that?
cant imagine that the cpu is that weak

[north linden]

4K with Ultra+, reshade and other graphical mods

[plucky quail]

Well if you use mods and reshade then nobody can really help you since its not the Vanilla game.

Only thing i would do since you use mods and some could strain you CPU

[north linden]

But the problem is not inside the mods. On the same setup I have a difference between old and new saves for around 30 fps without changing anything.

[plucky quail]

When heaving bigger drawdistance and or needs to start swapping from the vram if there is a mod that uses that much Vram.

[plucky quail]

I cant help. Needs to be clean game to know more or you do your own testing

[north linden]

Okay, wanted some clues from somebody but thanks anyway.

[plucky quail]

Download MSI afterburner and Rivatuner to see what the issue is with your HW. there are many videos that show you how to see issues and how to install

[pastel summit]

might be worth it to get it cleaned up and repasted still, thermal pastes do dry up especially after a few years.

[tawny thicket]

Yes
Cuz everyone will have nvidia

[past escarp]

I mean at the end of the game(labaratory x7 if im not mistaken) i had some problems with framerate, but other then that - not really(played in 1.0-1.1)

[past escarp]

nGreedia you mean to say

[north linden]

I also forgot to mention one important thing. Namely, I disabled practically all mods, including graphical ones, and even lowered the resolution to 1080p and set the detail settings to the lowest—and the game’s FPS went up by maybe 2 or 3...
So something went wrong with my save files, but I just don’t know what. I’m worried that the same thing might happen when I start a new game next time. It seems to me that the biggest drop happened after I finished the 1.8 quests and was slowly working my way through the Duga attack quests.

I also experienced a massive drop in frame rate that started when I escaped from Korshunov prison—at that point, I was down to just 4–5 FPS, and the game was unplayable. The only solution was to load a save file from before that mission, and the second time around, the mission loaded normally with “normal” frame rates by my standards (20–30 fps).

In that situation, I also tried setting the graphics to the lowest settings, and the result was similar—about 5 fps avarage with the RTX 5070 Ti

And of course, when I loaded a much earlier save—say, from Zaton before heading to the swamps—I got 40–50 fps on maximum settings

I'm currently in Pripyat and slowly finishing the game at around 20 fps. I'll manage, but no one knows what the next playthrough will bring.

[coarse linden]

Heh I actually got more FPS with 1440p compared to 1080p. 5800X was just not cutting it with heavily populated areas

Ultimately got fed up and got 9800X3D

[north linden]

The problem is that I have low fps even in the middle of a field

And I doubt it's a hardware problem

[coarse linden]

Screwed up shader comp?

[north linden]

I did multiple new shader comps

No results

I think there is a problem inside my game saves, something happened that drastically reduced my fps and it stayed like that on that saves

[coarse linden]

Sounds plausible. My old saves behaved kinda similar. Utterly unplayable after few patches

[north linden]

What's funny that I got only one update on that playthrough - 1.8 which shouldn't interfere with game that much

[coarse linden]

Did add new content and whatnot

[north linden]

Thats why I'm looking for a reason of that problem but it seems I'm not going to. Probably will start a new game with hopes that it won't happen again

[coarse linden]

Probably quick and dirty test would be use trainer and fly to areas that cause issue on new save just to see if its the game screwing up or saves

[stark kayak]

newest nvidia drivers have some perfomance issues what i heard. and do you have expo profile on in mb settings?

[north linden]

I have no clue what expo profile acutally is 🙂

[tender patrol]

EXPO in an AMD equivalent of XMP

[stark kayak]

Yup, and some lazy manufactures don't even change the name. I have amd cpu and xmp settings

[stark kayak]

Boost the ram mhz and gets little bit tighter timings/latency

[north linden]

So basicly it OC the ram?

[north linden]

Ah okay, dont know if it gonna do anything about it but thanks for info

[winter hamlet]

More like runs it at it's rated speed

[stark kayak]

They been designed to work like that

[north linden]

Okay, will se if I have something like this in my BIOS but its more like a nice addition. I think my game and saves are horrendoulsy corrupted and after I finish a playthrough gonna make a total fresh reinstall of the game. I had it installed since release and all the updates and mods swapping could hurt it so now it works like this.

[stark kayak]

expo/xmp could help when you have fps drops

[real kraken]

https://youtu.be/rAIs1_bQioI?si=46Gha5mleiGevE0o

[plucky quail]

Not going to happen. Thats just hopium again. If that would be true then how would they run FSR4.1 on 6000 with FP8 or FP16 in that case.
It cant and i wouldnt expect them doing a Int8 because they too greedy to put some devs on FSR Int8.

[real kraken]

If modders did that only in a few weeks I'm sure that they are able to do that

[plucky quail]

Sure. AMD could have put that out last year sometime summer

[coarse linden]

Wha DLSS 5 already this year

[plucky quail]

This? Wdym this?

[coarse linden]

Will arrive this fall

[thorny remnant]

damn DLSS 5 is amazing
turn it on and everything looks like an ai generated asset flip

[coarse linden]

Will also lose you frames heh

Tad dishonest comparison pics with resident evil

Since those are RT off with "off" side and path traced on "on" side

[thorny remnant]

does not surprise me we are still a few years away from realtime ai rendering (basically ai minecraft with proper graphics)

[coarse linden]

Starfield seems to be interesting to test when that comes since characters do be looking like ass on it

Assuming this shit will run on 5070ti

[thorny remnant]

most likely not

[coarse linden]

Ye I kinda doubt that one too

[thorny remnant]

will probably need some fancy new "fp4 ultra fancy ai max" cores

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwhat-even-is-this-dawg-v0-mnx5of1svgpg1.png%3Fwidth%3D3454%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ded0183a8050bb79f949a66f63094da0e78635c3b

[coarse linden]

lol

[plucky quail]

Naw how they going to run it on anything than a 5090 at crippling frames

[coarse linden]

Well thats the job for the billion dollar R&D department to figure out

[plucky quail]

I only see it as a replacement to RR else it's too uncanny+uses ton of compute for the face and would take the artistic visuals

[coarse linden]

It will be its own thing that works with SR, RR, FG and whatnot

Tbh should have used its own name rather then ride on DLSS name

Apparently devs will have control how the result turns out from it

"DLSS 5 honors artistic intent in two ways:

Inputting the game’s color and motion vectors for each frame into the model, anchoring the output in the source 3D content.

By providing developers with detailed controls such as intensity and color grading. Artists can use these controls to adjust blending, contrast, saturation, and gamma, and determine where and how enhancements are applied to maintain the game’s unique aesthetic. Developers can also mask specific objects or areas to be excluded from enhancement.
"

[plucky quail]

But I wouldn't understand what RR has place in forward. It can do things like RR just better. Adding realistic light. Improving it and correcting on places that need correction.

[plucky quail]

Not very often that Nvidia marketing is showing the features wrong in worse light.

If that's actually giving the artist the tools to actually artistically design their games

But underline is that it's still going to look Shit. I don't think it's going to get out of the uncanny valley.

[coarse linden]

DLSS 5 is just cheat for make textures and whatnot look higher quality and cheat raycount. RR is still needed for denoising

Afraid tho that this will allow artists become lazy with base models

[plucky quail]

But that can easily do that too. Its doing half of what RR is doing its prob also able to reduce Noise. Imagine the AI slop that you get with DLSS+RR+FG+NR

[coarse linden]

Supports multi framegen too lol

Eventually games will just be encrypted txt files that are printed out weekly

Sad future

[thorny remnant]

its literally changing things, would not surprise me if it also gave teeth to newborns like that Samsung camera

enhancing is one thing just making shit up another

[coarse linden]

To me it just seems like tiktok filter

[winter hamlet]

Once in a while I get those scammy adult AI chat ads and the characters in nvidias screenshots look just like them lol

[coarse linden]

Sounds about right lol

[thorny remnant]

Indeed

[real kraken]

What is that DLSS5 that I heared

[tawny thicket]

in every single example they showed it flipped the atmosphere on its head
and really just changed shi for no reason

[tawny thicket]

something that turns a game into AI slop 👍

[real kraken]

Yeah I just checked with comparaison, it's just like instagram filter or sora ai

It's bullsh..

[tender patrol]

And it has nothing to do with upscaling anymore

[real kraken]

In a few years the whole game will be generate by ai

[tawny thicket]

i rather Nvidia sponsor devs to add RT or PT into their older games

cuz this is just ridiculous

[late ferry]

lightning999933 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

its a big F you to whoever was in charge of the atmosphere in all these games

meanwhile AMD is busy emulating NIS with ray regen..

[timid herald]

its MY gpu and I get to decide when it DOES ITS MATH HOMEWORK

[past escarp]

Or yours math homework

[past escarp]

Yep, also it can only "work" with something that intends to look realistic, so any other artstyle would be just total mess(like its already mess, but it would just be worse in every way]

[tender patrol]

I would like to play Borderlands 4 with DLSS 5 - must be awesome experience!

[past escarp]

Yipee 30fps with awful graphics

[tender patrol]

Damn, that 6 FPS more than cinematic 24 FPS

[past escarp]

i guess its called console-level experience

[plucky quail]

Already know 5090 Going to barely to run it with every Feature for FPS on

[past escarp]

cause its made for premium gamers duh

[thorny remnant]

Didn't they use 2 5090 for the preview
So that should be the indicator rtx 5000 wont be able to run it

Unless you have 4000 - 6000 dollars worth of GPUs
And if you have they are likely to catch fire

[past escarp]

Just spend a few millions, buy data centers and play games duh

They will probably have enough computing power to even play in 70fps(dlss perf. and 6xmfg)

[late ferry]

pimpchimpinit has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[past escarp]

dlss 5 is a great thing, it really worth all memory prices skyrocketing somewhere beyond what common folk could afford

[uneven portal]

People forget that it took two 5090s to make it work, and that this is probably just another gimmick to sell a new generation of graphics cards.

Metro Exodus is still the only game that implements RTX properly, and it was the first to do so; they love creating things just to leave them half-finished

[past escarp]

also quality level, when you have a somewhat dynamic scene sucks ass. its literally on par with ai-slop videos

[past escarp]

what bout minecraft? i think it does a decent job in implementing it

[uneven portal]

It’s the nature of the system; it doesn’t take context into account

[past escarp]

memes, the dna of the soul

[uneven portal]

is meh

seus sptg maybe

[past escarp]

i mean bedrock version of minecraft

[uneven portal]

bad optimization

[past escarp]

probably. cause i literally launched it one time somtime in 2023-2024 and then never ever touched it

[uneven portal]

well same for metro 2021 (enchansed edition)

[past escarp]

one day i will play metro ll and exodus

[uneven portal]

If you take a closer look, almost no game that supports RTX shows a significant difference in lighting whether the feature is enabled or not.

Almost everyone needs path tracing for that, and the performance is terrible

[past escarp]

thats the thing - you trade like 90% of performance to gain so little

[uneven portal]

Even in Resident Evil 9, path tracing looks terrible because of the denoiser, NVIDIA releases hundreds of technologies, but only DLSS works as expected.

[past escarp]

either they make it 10x more efficient or it will die

[uneven portal]

They release products before they're ready, and try to trick people into thinking that if they buy a graphics card for 2,000 euros, they'll be able to use it

[past escarp]

sell ur car(if you have one), sell your house(if you have one) and enjoy ur ai-slop

[uneven portal]

Then 6050 users will complain that they aren't getting as much performance as the previous generation and that they have too little VRAM

[past escarp]

just buy a good graphics card, like some teslas` cause apparently cards only matter in terms of their ai-performance

[coarse linden]

Too bad next Metro will be UE5 slop

[real kraken]

UE5 is not bad if it's use proprelly and optimized look arc raiders, optimized and amazing game

[uneven portal]

Ark Raiders rendering problem...

[fierce egret]

So no nanite, no lumen, no virtual shadow maps etc? Amazing!

[amber owl]

Is there anywhere I can post a video? My game has been flickering between fullscreen and 4 quadrants of streaks for a while now and I cannot seem to actually play. Tought to accuratly describe. Anyone else have this issue?

Had to sift through the Channels & Roles at the top and found more channels. Posted the issue in the Screens and Videos channel. Such a weird issue.

[tender patrol]

DLSS bug. Select another upscaler. Or change motion blur level to at least 1 as a workaround.

[amber owl]

Weird. Yeah, I switched to TSR and it clears up after a while but sometimes it just crops up again regardless. You say to ADD motionblur? Motionblur can fix it, how?

[tender patrol]

Dont know how or why because this never happened to me (I am on AMD) but I have seen reports of people using it as a workaround for this bug.

[amber owl]

Using Ryzen 3900X and 2070 Super with over 32GB of RAM. The game has never run particularly well for me but I could at least play, lol

[coarse linden]

I mean proper use would be to fork it and mold it to their needs but no studio except CD Projekt wants to do that more or less.

Defeats whole purpose of "saving money"

[real kraken]

I had no problem

Ark raiders look amazing with UE5 and being optimized

UE5 is good when it's used proprelly

[past escarp]

Why would you optimize your game when you have mfg x6 and why bother making ok graphics when you can just put slop-ss5

[real kraken]

Idk, but I will never use these technology for my projects X)

What I can confirm is that optimzation take a lot of time, and developers has the pressure of the investors and the company...the probleme is from the company who give only a short deadline to there developers... so they cut the optimization process to respect the deadline.

Investor want the game to be released has soon has possible

[past escarp]

Investors dont care abt quality of product, only about profits

[plucky quail]

Basically making your own engine out of it.

[real kraken]

That's why many indie games are better than game from big tech company

[past escarp]

Yep, thats why i play small indie games

[swift torrent]

Boomershooter ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[past escarp]

This is joke, cause games that i have recently played are deadlock and clash royale, but indie games are really thriving

[past escarp]

Is it like doom 1-2, first wolfenstein etc?

[swift torrent]

yes ^^ newer games in this style are age of hell, phantom fury, project Warlock 2, boltgun, hellbound, Dusk, prodeus, HROT etc

[mighty barn]

Poettring shouldve been bullied out so far back its unreal

[tawny thicket]

Id give my government a big F$CK YOU and run the OS i wanted to run anyway

[mighty barn]

devuan climb

[late ferry]

khlebnyixkhleb has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[pseudo loom]

So you have any gpu driver issue with stalker on this setup?

[pseudo loom]

Have 9070 and even without fsr it crashes

Sometimes it crashes and only reboot of the pc helps, otherwise the system is not responding
Win 11
9070 xt

[quiet flame]

I never really knew whether the problem was caused by the drivers or Windows 11 (or a combination of both). But since I switched to Linux end of January, I haven't had crash anymore.

And the framerate is more stable

[pseudo loom]

Got it
Thank you 🤝

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/rbCxa6QhSuM?si=az2odhaqI8OLv1vD

[plucky quail]

Intel is working out its things again.
I loved their announcement video 2 weeks prior.

[swift torrent]

So now they just need to announce a potent 16-P Core only CPU again...

i dont have any use of CPUs with E-Cores under heavy specialised Workload under some OperationSystems NOT beeing Win11 x.x So im limited to buget CPUs that hold just P Cores like 12400 or older P Core only Intel 11xxx or AMD 5xxx or 9xxx (latest still too expensive at the moment because DDR5.....).

And nooo, i dont have the money for xeons and threadripper/Epyc Systems 😛

[past escarp]

for what? i mean in work it would be useful, but no game can work with more then 16 threads, so it wouldnt be useful. also its good that intel finally made something of value, they are starting to take on mid-range systems and its good, but as far as i know, their latest socket supports only ddr5

[past escarp]

i think 12400 has 6p-cores and others are e-cores, so i guess it would be best choice, cause you have mobos with ddr4 for 12400 and ddr4 itself is cheaper

[swift torrent]

Yeah..i wrote..specialzed heavy workload (medical/physical researches)...not gaming already 😉 and some multithreading Tasks need to have the same type of cores paired or it will suffer, so you have to disable E-Cores on BIOS level...but what for i payed half of the money then?) xD

[swift torrent]

yes 12400T has 6P Cores as 6/0/0 Core CPU. but its buget CPU. i want a real powerful Desktop CPU from intel again xD Intel is less complicated on the initial side under 24/7 100% Load then AMD, so i just prefer them, but yeah, the AMDs just run too when you invest some work at the beginning. But thats all a bit too much offtopic for this channel so im doin a step back now from that ^^

[past escarp]

well if you want a real powerful cou from intel then its something like i7-i9, but there still will be a headache with turning off e-cores

[swift torrent]

thats the majorproblem, yes

[past escarp]

so i dont think there is a good cpu for you, cause it seems that intel does more in making different cores in one cpu, unfortunately for you

[plucky quail]

16P? I am sure its only 12P. Small amount of Ecores for gaming does help.

[coarse linden]

Intel can shove its ee cores where sun doesnt shine

[swift torrent]

But Powerusers need no E-Cores... ^^ They are forced to use AMD now or Xeons.

[coarse linden]

Sure for laptop it sounds neat but desktop waste of silicon that only looks good on cinebench

[swift torrent]

they should kill E-Cores like AMD and use the free TDP to put some more P Cores on the Die xD

(on desktop)

[coarse linden]

People complained about Intels power draw and Intel lost the plot thinking e cores were the solution.. Instead fixing their halfassed architect that still draws ridiculous amount on P cores

Caught pants down milking skylake

I mean E cores do have purpose for gaming laptops for example so it could function as actual laptop when not gaming

[plucky quail]

Thats not even true. Imagine what have done 12Pcore CPU for gaming. Probably not much. Getting those 4 extra cores for Productivity would also not helped Intel on it. They would have worse results. Its the thing that intel has massive Single core performance cuz their Pcores are so massive.
The best way to use it those cores is having Ecores with it there is no other way to make them better, except getting more cache in.
If you look at AMDs 7000 and intels 13/14th gen you see how dominant they are. The thing that beats them is X3D versions and that more only in gaming.
Hardly disagree that Ecores are useless, the alternative would been worse.

[swift torrent]

then they should bring back extreme Edition CPUs for Powerusers with P-Cores only ^^ so you can have your 285 Ultra/270Plus and we get a single model 290X or something xD everyones happy xD Perhaps its not the CPU that brings much money, but it brings some Users back from AMD who use 5xxx or 9xxx because this case ^^

[plucky quail]

X is also taken for the better IGPU in them

But in real life you cant do that since you cant have 100% Yield and get much less margine out of it.

[coarse linden]

I mean they did bring back P core only CPUs

Just not available for consumers lol

[coarse linden]

Conspiracy theory: FSR 4 INT8 is not available officially because its actually owned by Sony for their PSSR

[plucky quail]

Nah they have int8 for RR and FG too.

And so far we dont have it on PS5 and doesnt look like its comming to it too

[subtle basalt]

Sup guys, when I launch the game this error occurs: "DX12 RHI use is required by the project, but is not supported, or failed to choose a valid graphics adapter". I have GTX 760, and it supposed to support DX12. Is it possible to fix this?

[swift torrent]

Stalker 2 with a 760? im faster to draw you the screen on paper than this GPU on your monitor O.o and the low VRAM will prevent you from starting even the intro of it 😛

[subtle basalt]

I played Half-Life Alyx with GTX 760, and had there about 100 FPS. Stalker 2 system requirements are very similar

[swift torrent]

BETRIEBSSYSTEM: Windows 10 x64 / Windows 11 x64
PROZESSOR: Intel Core i7-7700K / AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
ARBEITSSPEICHER: 16 GB RAM
GRAFIK: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB / AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB / Intel Arc A750
SPEICHERPLATZ: 160 GB verfügbarer Speicherplatz
ZUSÄTZLICHE ANMERKUNGEN: Graphics Preset: LOW / Resolution: 1080p / Target FPS: 30. 16 GB Dual Channel RAM. SSD required. The listed specifications were evaluated using TSR and comparable technologies.

[subtle basalt]

Half-Life Alyx also requires GTX 1060

But I could play it, unlike Stalker 2

[swift torrent]

some requirements are just because the decs didnt have a slower card to test xD how much vam has die 760? max 4GB?

[subtle basalt]

2

[swift torrent]

some graphic requirements are for the speed and some for the vram

and on stalker 2 you need both xD

[subtle basalt]

even to play on 420x240 resolution?

i think i could run it if i bypass this dx12 check

[swift torrent]

hav fun with 1FPS

the amount of textures that will be loaded have to fit in somewhere...you cant play on 2GB...

even 4gb is not possible when i heared right, or just with major flaws

[subtle basalt]

As far as i know, on Windows if there's no enough VRAM, game can use regular RAM to store textures. For example, I can play Counter-Strike 2 with my videocard, and when I type "sys_info" command into the developer console, it shows that 5 GB of VRAM is used

It is a feature of DirectX

[swift torrent]

ok you wont hear. Have fun, i tryed. stalker 2 is a high demanding game. Alyx you can now run on a gameboy..

[subtle basalt]

I found a video someone runs Stalker 2 on GTX 950 with 2 GB VRAM: https://youtu.be/iLXNMOQ6tDQ

On 720p there is 30 fps

[swift torrent]

its not 30fps when you get into any fights thats why you just see it one time in the vid with slideshow xD just running around looking flowers is not the game. And he surely has the faster CPU/amount of ram to mess around with slow ram and so. What CPU youuu have?

[subtle basalt]

i5-10400

[swift torrent]

why not play stalker1 in the same zone with 200FPS? ^^

[subtle basalt]

Because I already played it

I completed them 100%

And now I want to play stalker 2. I would be happy to play even at 1 fps

[past escarp]

i think its showing you mercy by not letting into the game

[past escarp]

90yo with dimentia has more memory then this

[past escarp]

i dont think you would. when there is not enough vram you will have seemingly random drops of performance to 5-10fps at best, that could last for a long while.

[subtle basalt]

i dont care what my fps is, i can play with even 1 fps and 144p resolution

my brain can generate additional frames in my head since i started watching tiktok on my samsung galaxy note 2

[swift torrent]

it was fun to play quake1 clanwars in the 90s on my Amiga with 10FPS, while the others had fast Pentium 2 and so, i know what ya mean, but today..im not sure how to call it "fun" ^^

but back then it was just raw power of your computer, today you have technical limits on software, hardware, al kind of optimisaions that need additional power on other components and slow the overall perf down.

[coarse linden]

It doesnt support DX12 properly. So its not possible

As my memory serves it only supports DX12 on feature level 11_0

[subtle basalt]

yes, but it is still dx 12

[coarse linden]

It is but its not all the features of DX12 that game requires

[subtle basalt]

my laptop's integrated gpu supports dx 12 12_1 btw, i gonna check if stalker 2 runs there

[coarse linden]

Basically Microsoft and its genius naming scheme at play

[past escarp]

i dont think that if it has ability to do something - you should do this

[hollow kettle]

Not even worth playing tbh. At least imo. The story is just okay, the gameplay is average at best, the atmosphere is amazing if you can run at least medium settings but lower than that it looks horrible. Just my two cents

The legend of the zone cop i been playing is more fun

If only the map wasnt so small

[past escarp]

animations are great

but i prefer soc face animations

[hollow kettle]

Yeah that is true. NPCs do look pretty great

[past escarp]

in so yes, they are always hungry. but in animations i meant gun animations, they do look great

[hollow kettle]

I am kinda wondering if the int8 fsr4 model that leaked was never intended for desktop use, but instead maybe PSSR upgrade 🤔

[hollow kettle]

this is my theory, AMD did the fp8 version, Sony did the the INT8 version. AMD actually doesnt have acces to the int8 version, and they tried to recreated whitout the concern of Sony, sony noticed that there was something leaked by AMD, and AMD stopped the work on int8

[real kraken]

Uh...so AMD give free there technology to Sony ans sony do nothing to them ?

[coarse linden]

Probably Sony giving AMD R&D capacity for the FSR

[plucky quail]

FSR4 would prob not even exist if sony didnt want a Upscaler. Its prob just them putting engineers together to develop it for the PS5 P and just transfer all that to Radeon. They also did make RR and FG i8 too.
That all tho makes AMD make look even worse. Not being able to start something because of Radeon itself is bad.

[plucky quail]

Never here: ❌

[raw sleet]

anyone else tried using nvidia smooth motion instead of the in-game frame gen option? maybe i'm imagining things but it seems to perform better than the in-game option

[tawny thicket]

in JPR AMD is gonna just keep going down and down

untill its at intels level

[plucky quail]

Nvidia FG or the FSR FG?

[compact obsidian]

Has anyone else had problems playing the game with RTX 3050? The highest FPS I've hit is 45 but the lowest I've hit was 7 FPS. I'm also playing on the lowest graphic settings 😅

[spare coral]

What cpu? But yeah the 3050 isnt enough to play this game at all
Unreal engine 5 magic

[compact obsidian]

AMD Ryzen 5 5500. Once I get my taxes back though, I plan on upgrading

[spare coral]

Makes sense then this game is super heavy on both cpu and gpu
Updates made it even harder to run on old cpus tho it made it more stable on stronger ones lol

[compact obsidian]

Wack 🤣 I would've tried to make some optimizations so people with potatoes like mine could at least enjoy the game but I guess this is the price we pay for excellence.

[spare coral]

They will update the engine later this year and that could make it more playable for older machines (if what people say its true) 😄

[tawny thicket]

Which 3050 ?
Its probably a VRAM issue

[past escarp]

it is enpugh and is not enough at the same time, honestly depends on what 3050 you have. for example on my laptop there is 3050 4gb, which sucks. but my friend has 3050 8gb and had no problems playing s2

[spare coral]

A lot of people also have the 6gb 3050

[plucky quail]

Nuh uh. GSC is saying 6GB works with this game!

[tawny thicket]

they also think that this is a playable experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTtH-jAtHrg&t=422s

[plucky quail]

Calling Playable at a wide range I see. I guess thats the artist intent and acceptable for what the player should see.

[hollow kettle]

It could be. Depends what model fg used in game

I think

[plucky quail]

So never won

[pure ibex]

It’s safe to say it now makes sense why amd seemed so spooked

And why there future generations are shaping up to be absolutely cracked

Seems up to this point amd has been playing it somewhat safe not releasing products that are TOO good

Now that Intel has played there hand we will get to see what amd is cooking

Also big news in regards to memory pricing

Google has developed a memory compression algorithm for ai models reducing there memory requirement by 6x

Ram prices have already started to go down once the news broke

[raw sleet]

lol, the ddr5 32gb kit i bought in '23 was 139; today it's still 449

i was going to upgrade my rig to 64gb.. but fuuuuuck that

what would you guys suggest regarding a backup drive? was thinking of putting a WD red 8-10tb drive with a usb enclosure for some simple backup storage

i haven't bought a WD drive since the velociraptor days though.. don't really know where their quality stands these days

[coarse linden]

Doesnt matter too much but if you want to play it safe avoid SMR drives

[uneven portal]

hey respect my 28tb smr

[coarse linden]

If head goes on those its more or less impossible to repair and recover data

[coarse linden]

Never

[raw sleet]

thanks, basically just going to be a deep storage device.. putting the past 25yrs of shit i've saved into it and then it's going into a lockbox

[tawny thicket]

btw when is UE 5.5 coming ?

[plucky quail]

Nobody knows. I even asked and 0 people answered. I guess nobody wants to talk about it anymore

[tawny thicket]

i guess im never coming back to the game then

[real kraken]

:(

Probably with DLC ?

(I hope before)

[remote fractal]

My prediction is it will come alongside the upcoming DLC.

[lament aurora]

Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13620H
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU
RAM 32 GB DDR5
Last time i played was October 26 2025, in some cities i had stutter and fps drops while using dlss and trying frame gen on/off, has the game gotten better or it still hard on 8gb vram GPU ? (mind you i play lot of recent games without issue on High or Ultra even tho it's not a high end GPU)

[uneven portal]

2.0 maybee

like at the same thime whit the dlc on some month of the summer

[real kraken]

the game hasn't been updated since December

so it's wont change that much

[late ferry]

wojti_ttv has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[reef zenith]

Anyone know if i still need to use that -300mhz core offset for Stalker 2? Latest driver 9070xt

[pastel summit]

Which resolution and graphical settings? It's best to stick to 1080p on the 4060, also closing other apps that may be using VRAM can help

although it's not that much of an issue on a laptop as the iGPU should be responsible for light tasks.

[lament aurora]

i always play at 1080p, i don't remember the settings i was using but probably a mix of medium and high

[pastel summit]

oh, October. there hasn't been many updates since then

[pastel summit]

I think you can try setting Textures to medium, other than that I can't think of any issues resulting in frame drops

4060 should be good for 1080p high normally

S2 has some issues with frame drops on larger towns and regions and it's a known issue to this day, if a stable experience is important to you then maybe best to wait until engine update

[lament aurora]

the most intensive place for me was Slag Heap, with all it's NPCs and storms it was so laggy, everywhere else is mostly a good experience but since it's the base in the middle of the map i go back and forth there to sell and put things in storage.

[winter hamlet]

A desktop 4060 is listed as a requirement for 1080p/Medium with upscaling. Laptop 4060 is slower, so settings would need to be turned down lower for smooth frames.

[pastel summit]

huh, I thought that was a typo at first but you weren't wrong, good point.

kinda funny how that was exactly the settings I was doing on a 3050 lol. technically works, long as you don't mind drops in the 30s and 40s.

just checked again and upscaling wasn't stated for 4060 however
https://support.stalker2.com/hc/en-us/articles/27929194969105-System-Requirements-Guide

[winter hamlet]

Upscaling is noted for low and high, so it's a little weird that it's not mentioned for medium. I think they just missed that when making the page.

[formal comet]

I would like it if gsc let me disable TAA or DLAA like in any patch before 1.6, dlss alone works a rudimentary antialiasing without tanking performance

I was able to play stably with a 2080ti and now you can’t even at 1080p without frame gen

All gsc has to do is let us disable TAA and DLAA, pls gcs give us that back pls

[coarse linden]

You can stab configs but since UE5 is so filled with temporal filtering when you do it you will take post processing with it

[pure ibex]

https://x.com/rdd147/status/2037956117620482417

Roger (@rdd147)

🚨 RAM prices are plummeting after OpenAi failed to fulfill its commitment to purchase 40% of World supply and terminated its $71 billion SKHynix promise. $MU

X · Mar 28, 2026, 6:12 PM

But I thought you were gonna buy 40 percent of all global memory production

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-lied-gif-21836345

[plucky quail]

What

[pure ibex]

Wdym what

Nvm

It’s fake news

Back to the ai mines

[past escarp]

yaaaaay

[spare coral]

Jack got baited by fake news
This cannot be...

[past escarp]

how dare you post fake news here

[pure ibex]

I wanted to be happy

[tawny thicket]

DLSS and DLAA are the exact same tech

[spare coral]

Dlaa is literally dlss at native resolution (so as an Antialiasing)

[tawny thicket]

all the DLSS modes are anti ailiasing
and DLAA is one of those modes

[past escarp]

nuh uh. you will not be happy. now go and pay another thousand for 8gb of memory so that jenson would buy himself a house made of leather jackets

[tawny thicket]

just nvidia marketing figured they could tell normies that a yellow apple is a diferent fruit to a red apple

and its wroking lol

[pure ibex]

its all worth it

[past escarp]

i mean, they didnt tell its another thing, its just dlss rather then just upscaling from lower resolution is making better picture from its native one

[tawny thicket]

it shouldve been called DLSS native

[past escarp]

maybe, but who cares?

[tawny thicket]

DLAA is a dumb name too
DLSS ultra perf could also share that name

[tawny thicket]

me when people cite "DLAA" as a reason to not buy AMD

[past escarp]

wait till they find out abt FSAA or FSR Native, or whatever

[tawny thicket]

"but thats just FSR at native, DLAA is diferent tech to DLSS"

[past escarp]

who cares

[tawny thicket]

the people saying that do

[past escarp]

ok

[spare coral]

A lot of games don't let you use fsr native but they let you use DLAA

[tawny thicket]

well FSR didnt have a native mode untill 3.1

and when you forced native on 2.2 it completely broke

[coarse linden]

Less hopium for you

[pure ibex]

ill return when its over fr

[coarse linden]

Looks and sounds better then some muddy FSR Native

[tawny thicket]

AMD should call it FAA

FidelityFX Anti Ailiasing
so much better than
FidelityFX Super Resolution Native AA mode

[coarse linden]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-renames-anti-lag-2-to-fsr-latency-reduction-2

Aint gonna happen

[tawny thicket]

KILL ME

first it was "ray regeneration" then they killed FSR 4 and now this ? brhu

[past escarp]

why would they rename it? anti-lag sounds cool and you somewhat understand what it does

[tawny thicket]

latency reduction is more accurate tho :grrr:

[coarse linden]

Probably new manager making waves to look useful

[tawny thicket]

jack hyuhn smh

[formal comet]

DLSS and DLAA are two different things, dlss is upscaling taking making a native image with less pixels, DLAA is nvidias AI version of antialiasing, which is actually more demanding than FXAA or MSAA

The only reason gsc didn’t use traditional aa is because it would look awful with the current foliage

[tawny thicket]

UE (5) needs temporal AA to look semi acceptable

[formal comet]

But at 4k you don’t need aa

[tawny thicket]

FXAA, SMAA, MSAA dont fulfill that

[formal comet]

So why would I want a blur like taa when I could just play native 4k and that alone would remove jagged edges

[tawny thicket]

You do
Theres more pixels for it to work with but you still need it

[formal comet]

I was happy without taa at 1080p

It’s not necessary when you have more pixels to render especially with the performance you gain from it being disabled

Allowing it to be disabled would make the game more accessible to “lower” end gpus especially if there was a choice of foliage that could used for performance that and traditional dlss would make the game near accessible to multiple layers of gamers

[past escarp]

Are you sure about that?

[formal comet]

Yes it’s like saying at 8million pixels you need aa bc you notice something has stairs

[past escarp]

Well im sorry to be the one to tell you this, but 4k does need aa

[formal comet]

Idk I have 2020 visions and the slight edge on bf6 doesn’t bother me

[past escarp]

If i remember it right - in 1.0 you could turn of taa, but ue5, as mentioned above, does need taa to work properly

Also, 4k is more demanding then, say, 2k+whatever aa(excluding ssaa)

[formal comet]

Yeah it’s demanding but switching on aa immediately tanks frames then forcing you to use fg and dlss, and then you’re creating unnecessary heat from the gpu just to get stability

[past escarp]

You do understand that 4k is harder for gpu to make then, say, 2k dlaa, right?

[formal comet]

Yes but my point is people should have the freedom not to use it , just because I have 4080 and have plenty of head room doesn’t mean everyone else is as fortunate

[past escarp]

Well we are bound by the shittiness of ue5. It simply needs taa to work, so no turning aa off for us in the ue5 games

[formal comet]

Valve pls fix

So it’s entirely bc of nanite and lumen , thing is I had no flickering before 1.6

[tawny thicket]

that wouldnt help lower end cards at all as foliage is NOT the only problem with no TAA in UE5

everything from shadows, to lighting to reflections requires TAA in UE5 to look acceptable

[tawny thicket]

without AA enabled ? doubt

[tawny thicket]

theres a very minor performance gain from going to no AA or TAA from DLSS at native (DLAA) or FSR AA

though that is determined by how much fps you were getting to begin with
like 2fps when getting 60fps without AA
and like 8fps when getting 120 without AA

[tawny thicket]

quoting the DLSS programing guide:

Additionally, what is referred to as “DLAA” or Deep Learning Anti-Aliasing refers to when the input and
output render sizes are set to the same value (as in a scaling ratio of 1.0) regardless of the Optimal
Settings call. This is kept separate as it should be exposed under a different UI option in game. DLAA is
also a performance quality mode.

[plucky quail]

Even with 4K you needed AA

If talking about Stalker. This game is just 50% res on all the things all the time and still runs ass

[plucky quail]

BF6 is really good with high res and no AA. The game looks just sharp and has almost no Aliasing

[tawny thicket]

Its more like 1/64th rez on a lot of things
Including lumen

(Most games are 1/32.max some going as high as 1/16th)

[prisma vector]

My PC specs:

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System Information
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         Operating System: Windows 11 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 26200) (26100.ge_release.240331-1435)
                 Language: Lithuanian (Regional Setting: Lithuanian)
      System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
             System Model: B650M D3HP AX
                     BIOS: FA3 (type: UEFI)
                Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 8700F 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~4.1 - 5.0 GHz
                   Memory: 32768MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 32378MB RAM
                Page File: 6110MB used, 28314MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: DirectX 12
      //...
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Display Devices
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           Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti
        Manufacturer: NVIDIA
           Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti
            DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
      Display Memory: 32150 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 15962 MB
       Shared Memory: 16188 MB
        Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (144Hz)
         HDR Support: Supported
//....

The game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chernobyl screen is smooth: 60-90 fps
Game options: graphics - medium, DLSS - quality, resolution - 1920x1080, fov - 85.
I'm happy with the game despite rare crashes.

[coarse linden]

Seems like Nvidia is pushing x6 framegen and dynamic framegen on beta today

[past escarp]

cant wait to see USM-MFG100X and get my honest 600fps

[tender patrol]

4090 performance at $549

[coarse linden]

New beta app for Nvidia also bring automatic shader compilation that rebuilds dx12 shader cache when system is idle after driver update

[tawny thicket]

fascinating solution for pumping out far to many drivers that dont actually fix things

[tender patrol]

Cool! So if I have a lot of games which do not actively play - my CPU will never idle. Is this "on" by default?

[coarse linden]

Default is off. You can manually make it compile all shaders if you want

[tender patrol]

Oh, not as anti-user as I expected

[robust shore]

I’ve got a bit weaker specs and game works fine on highest with classic CPU bottlenecking at (mostly) rostok and (for some reason) while leaving Zalissya

RTX 5060, 32GB RAM, Ryzen 7600

[prisma vector]

I feel good with current game settings. - medium. I will check what will be when I set everything to highest.

[prisma vector]

Well... in Zaton area near Hydrodinamics laboratory my fps is now 69-75. It's when I changed graphics settings to epic.
Prior to it I had medium settings for graphics and it was 90-97 fps.
70 fps is fine for me.

[plucky quail]

So if you turn that on does it compile every game at once or one after another

[coarse linden]

One after another as far as I know. Does require that you have ran and compiled shaders atleast once for the game

Its not like full compilation just updates them after driver update

[plucky quail]

Does it take lot process or little?

[coarse linden]

There is option for system utilization from low - medium - high

[plucky quail]

How does it know it's idle? Just not in a game?

[coarse linden]

That i dont know

[plucky quail]

High core count CPUs might be helpful here.

[tawny thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvJvdPDGgs peak

[real kraken]

DLSS5 on chess.com bruh

[past escarp]

excuse mua what in the actual f is this?

[real kraken]

check the video

[real kraken]

.

[real kraken]

https://youtu.be/QdsFxeR8PAg

FSR4 auto installer for RDNA 3 & 2 gpu for every games, very impressive

https://github.com/Agustinm28/Optiscaler-Client

[tawny thicket]

still waiting for chess 2

[real kraken]

👆

[hollow kettle]

So i think like every modern gpu can now have fsr4 int8 auto upgrade. Similar to how 9000 series gets the Adrenalin upgrade toggle for fsr

And in like every game I believe since Opti can use dlss inputs to get fsr4

[plucky quail]

And it was not AMD that did that for 9000 7000 and 6000 + Nvidia. It was a community that made that. Absolute shame

[primal scaffold]

Yo

i just bought a HDR monitor, but the option in the game is greyed out, i have the HDR active on windows settings so idk what could be graying out the setting in my game (other games recognize and use hdr)

[remote fractal]

Do you have HDR activated in your monitor menu's settings, some monitors have it toggled off by default

[primal scaffold]

Yes, well its on "auto" there's only auto and off

[remote fractal]

what monitor u got?

Best bet would be to look up the same issue you have. Hopefully someone might have had the same issue as u and found a fix for it.

[primal scaffold]

LG ultragear 1440p 120hz hdr

[primal scaffold]

Lmao you were right

I just wrote "stalker 2 hdr grayed out" the first link was a reddit post, reddit post said, just put game in exclusive full screen lmao

And yes, that fixed it and allowed me to use hdr, ty

[remote fractal]

Lmao XD. When in doubt, reddit. As sad as that sounds.

[primal scaffold]

Now I need to find the best settings for hdr, this is my first hdr display and I just bought it because there's some crazy screenshots and asked "mods" and "just hdr settings" as response

[remote fractal]

Some youtube vids would be your best bet for visuals tbh

[past escarp]

Just put everything in ultra settings, add ssaa to stalker2 and put it on x8

[primal scaffold]

whats ssaa?

[past escarp]

super sampling anti-aliasing. basically you put it on x8 and the game will render picture in x8 the resolution you set. it is extremely demanding. but it doesnt have any kind of artifacts, cause you basically just render higher reslution of the game

also even at x8 1080p it would have awful performance

[primal scaffold]

Yeah thanks for the sugestions, but what im trying to achieve is better and more natural colors using the new HDR

since ive seen people uploading screenshots with beautifull natural looking colors

[past escarp]

well i only said that as a joke, so better not try doing that

[past escarp]

maybe it has to do with, say, nvidia filters in-game

[primal scaffold]

oh okay, ill give nvidia filters a try, tysm

[past escarp]

also these filters would "take" some fps from you, so you may need to lower settings a bit, so that you will have a smooth gameplay. also as far as i heard - you better play at medium settings, cause there is not that big of a difference in mid to epic, then low to mid

[primal scaffold]

oh is it? this is valuable info actually, i had high settings 1440p 120FPS and gpu usage 90% but i think it would be good to try, i dont like my gpu having that much stress

[past escarp]

at least thats what i heard

[primal scaffold]

ive just seen some comparison videos, visuals and performance comparisons between each graphics preset and the diference is not that much, but low to epic has also small fps difference

So ig im gonna stick with high settings since its best overall from what ive seen in the comparisons

[tawny thicket]

it would still look horrible
cuz Sspatial AA has no concept of temporal consistency

and UE5 relies on that very heavily

[past escarp]

ue5 issue ig

for example - metro 2033 redux was looking pretty solid with x2ssaa(or was it x3?) in 2k

[tawny thicket]

even in portal 2 when i was playing with MSAA 8x i'd see unstable egdes all the time
spatial stuff just has no concept of consistency

[coarse linden]

Different era

[past escarp]

yep. also on x4 ssaa id have abt 50-60fps in 2k

[past escarp]

i just love ssaa cause the inly downside it has is performance. no artifacts, no bluring picture(that makes it soap-like or something, not sure if it translates well)

[raw sleet]

that's something that's always annoyed me.. not that it matters or anyone gives a shit..
OG msaa and transparency aa methods basically got tossed out the window with deferred rendering methods; which were developed as such to better support console hardware limitations being one of the main reasons

when supported I run my older dx9/opengl games with MSAA/SGSSAA

[past escarp]

Yep, consoles(ps4 era) were bad in terms of performance

[green zephyr]

Hello, what could be causing the HUD (and the subtitles) to become blurry? It's not because of the radiation, I'm clean, and the game isn't lagging or anything its just the hud being blurry. I'm playing on linux 😟

[waxen turtle]

I'm confirming you can run Stalker 2 at Medium settings w/ FSR 3.1 upscaling with Quality mode @ 1920x1080 with 50-60fps majority of the time, on a gtx 1070.

[unborn bramble]

does anyone know when the last good major update was and like what was it more optimized

[waxen turtle]

its really optimized right now compared to a year ago

provided you use some sort of upscaling for 10 series nvidia cards including 2060

[unborn bramble]

i have a 1660ti

i last played dec 2025 and it was better but i was wondering if it changed at all since, maybe less bugs better ai since dec?

[waxen turtle]

for fsr its still 3.1

No the last big update is the Patch 1.71 from December

The stories untold update seems to be getting only gameplay fix patches

At least from what I can read on the Steam page

[late ferry]

.halastjarna has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[tawny thicket]

no newer versions are available for anyone that doesnt have RX 9000 anyway

[real kraken]

You can use the FSR 4 leaked int8 and use it on nvidia and 6000/7000 series

[pastel summit]

technically works on Nvidia but it looks like ass and eats tons of performance. resolution switch is broken too

at least for my 3080. really just use DLSS if you have Nvidia

[real kraken]

I have 7800XT

[pastel summit]

how well does it work for you? haven't checked benchmarks

[real kraken]

Very good, I use it in almost every game, I use optiscaler client which install it proprelly.

In Stalker 2 is a night/day diff, with FSR 3 the hair have a lot of shimmering. With FSR 4.1 it is very stable.

With only a cost of few fps the quality is way better

Idk why amd still d'ont support it for RDNA 3 and 2 gpu, it's work very well...

[tawny thicket]

nah it looks the same on nvidia and AMD

BUT if the input rez is slightly messed up (like 1281x721 instead of 1280x720) FSR 4 int8 **Will ** break
which is the issue i imagine you had

[tawny thicket]

but yeah its really damn expensive on nvidia
i could sorta see a use on 16 series tho

[small escarp]

Is it good to use it now? Because I used 7600 XT, I had some problems with it and I changed it under warranty to 9060 XT and I'm afraid to use the new FSR 4

[past escarp]

and you`re right to be afraid. cause when you turn fsr4 there will appear some degenerate meme at 3 am and the only thing you will say is 67. you will be lobotomized. jokes aside - when i was playing on 9070xt - i did not notice any problems with fsr4, so just try to turn it on and if you dont have any problems - use it, if you do have problems - just turn it off and play like before

[small escarp]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExem84czdtanV2MG04N2puYmhnMGdwcjR4YW9qM3k4a2dxMXM1N2F2MyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6lhWhkfSjPSA8actTr/giphy.gif

[small escarp]

Your words started to bother me even more.

[past escarp]

that is intended feature

[small escarp]

Ahh..

[real kraken]

You shouldn't be afraid because you got an Rx 9000 which support officialy FSR 4 on Stalker 2

just on click button in adrenaline software.

unlike us (Rx 7000 and 6000 and even some 5000 users) have to install it manually ( but now, Optiscaler client exist which install FSR4 automatically for older GPU correctly, one click button just like magic)

Even it's not "officially" supported on older gen, it's work like a dream compare to FSR 3

[tawny thicket]

Do note that optiscaler client wasnt made by the devs of optiscaler itself

[real kraken]

I know

[tawny thicket]

Yeah i just feel the need to make sure others do too

[real kraken]

but still good, it support FSR 4b and 4c

well the client it's just an app in C#~that install from the github source the Optiscaler official and the FSR4 int 8 version from the optiscaler client it self and install it on your game

instead of copy past yourself in your games

[plucky quail]

Only good with 4.1 over 3.1 and the best if you use DLSS input for it.

[real kraken]

so you d'ont have to deal with folder and files

[plucky quail]

Optiscaler app. Does all that with 2 Klicks. Works as good as dlss swapper

[real kraken]

yeah but do not support the int 8 version of FSR 4

[plucky quail]

It does.

[real kraken]

oh really ?

[plucky quail]

new UI where you can choose your in8 version

[real kraken]

Oh well I didn't know I will check this out

this ? https://optiscaler.com/

[plucky quail]

Ancientgameplays has a video about it iirc

[real kraken]

well it dosen't change that much compare the optiscaler client

[tawny thicket]

Thats a scam site

[real kraken]

ah yes

[tawny thicket]

Theres also an optiscaler manager being made by someone pretty close to the optiscaler dev team

Although like the rest that is also vibecoded

[real kraken]

I will still keep the optiscaler client which works like perfect for Int8 FSR4 injection