pc-specs

[candid swan]

Did your computer black screened and restarted?

I had that issue with a faulty 4650g PRO

[polar mountain]

yes, i cant use it at all

[candid swan]

Like windows started but randomly failed at some point?

[polar mountain]

boot in windows, freezes for a few seconds, i open discord it freezes again, i open steam it freezes again, then i open any other app, black screen, restarts and back into windows and delays

[candid swan]

CPU fault

[polar mountain]

i know it is the damn cpu, the warranty department told me that it is perfectly working

[candid swan]

Can't be RAM or storage drive

[polar mountain]

waiting for my phone to charge a bit and ill call them on my own

[polar mountain]

i tried different kits, motherboard, ssds and returned them as they didnt change anything

[candid swan]

Switched CPUs to a 5900x and the issue was gone for good

It rarely happens with a ram or mobo issue

That's a CPU issue

[polar mountain]

i know bro, i completed the 4th warranty claim 5 minutes ago...

[past escarp]

you need 50.000.000 power to use 7800x3d

[polar mountain]

😤😤

My biggest enemy am5

[hollow kettle]

I have been playing a lot better in bf6 since I lowered my fov to 108 & also lowered all graphics to med/low lol now I get 150+ fps instead of 80-100

And it still looks pretty darn good

Now I cannot decide if I want to buy borderlands 4 or dying light the beast still

Outer worlds 2 i already own. It will release in a couple of days. Maybe i should just wait to buy any other new games lol

[gray osprey]

Anyone else can run with 60 fps without fsr on? I got a 5070ti and i7 12500 but i get 30% gpu utilization and 50 % cpu utilization but only 30 fps on high settings on 1080p but with fsr on i get 60 fps same utilization

[polar mountain]

cpu too slow, use dlss instead of fsr

[polar mountain]

the beast is too short for the price

[pastel summit]

CPU utilization has been pretty ass for a while now, wait for further patches as GSC improves this trust

[civic hull]

I still think that 30% utilization is bad

I think you are not focusing on the main problem, and that is your gpu not being used at all

[gray osprey]

Well its used on other games like dune awakening

[civic hull]

How much usage there

Approximately

[gray osprey]

60%

[gray osprey]

Man if the cpu is not at 100% idk what i d have to do myself to fix this. Like my cpu is “decent” so not sure what is limiting it. Maybe some bios setting? Nvidia control panel and windows power are all set to maximum performance

And temps are below 70 c

[civic hull]

You were on fullscreen right? Not borderless, plain fullscreen

[gray osprey]

Yeah exclusive full screen i checked every time.

Idm using fsr but why lol its mind buggling

Well actually im side tracking its the gpu utilization that is concerning

[civic hull]

Yes, thats what I've been saying

Its impossible that a UE5 title that its demanding for everyone its being at like 80% on a 5070ti, even if it is 1080p

[hollow kettle]

playing 1080p with 5070ti is certainly a choice

[civic hull]

Maybe check an nvidia setting on the control panel, idk, but something

[civic hull]

Hey, you gotta grind those high framerates

[hollow kettle]

1080p puts more stress on cpu compared to 1440p and 4k right?

[civic hull]

I actually don't know, maybe

[hollow kettle]

and uses less of the gpu

[civic hull]

But 30% gpu usage is not normal

[hollow kettle]

nope but tht is usually what happens when cpu limited

like my gpu usage drops down from 90%+ to 40-60% in helldivers 2 and my cpu usage wont even be 100% either. Still can be cpu limited with only 60-80% cpu usage for example. afaik anyway

setting fps limit in that game helped a lot

[polar mountain]

i5 12500 is similar to a ryzen 5 3600... pair that at 1080p with upscaling and a 5070ti on an already cooked game, not going to have a great time running it

[civic hull]

Its an i7 btw
But really its that bad?

[polar mountain]

yeah but he said 12500, which is i5

i7 wouldve been 12700

[civic hull]

Ah

Dammit, too many numbers

[gray osprey]

Do i get a new monitor?

[gray osprey]

Good catch, its 12700

Given my cpu utilization is not high at all, i dont think its a cpu bottleneck, but maybe i need a new monitor

[hollow kettle]

I would definitely get a good 1440p monitor. Preferably OLED, could even go 4k if you wanted. If you want something more budget friendly on a similar level to OLED look into mini led. Unless you play a lot of online pvp games & cannot afford OLED then just get IPS.

But yeah definitely will help a bit going to at least 1440p. That is the sweet spot imo. Noticeable visual upgrade from 1080p while also not being crazy demanding like 4k

MSI has some decent 1440p 27" QD-OLEDs for around $450-$600 in US

[coarse linden]

Still about 300 too much for flawed tech

[hollow kettle]

I got mini led instead

Mainly bc i am too poor for OLED lol

[coarse linden]

Well it is aimed for people who consume and throw away and rebuy it

[hollow kettle]

I wanna get an ultrawide mini led next time

[coarse linden]

Surprisingly many people dont bother with the warranty and instead just buy the same monitor again

[hollow kettle]

Too dang expensive to do that lol

Some of these OLEDs have pixel cleaning now to fix burn in supposedly

Or at least alleviate it

[coarse linden]

It doesnt fix it but its suppose prolong until it happens

[hollow kettle]

Only thing that makes me wanna get one is the response times & refresh rates

Huge differences compared to my VA Mini led

[coarse linden]

And some brands require you to run it every 2 - 4 hours or else warranty is void lol

[hollow kettle]

Maybe it could be something ran every night while sleeping. But aint no way I would be doing it every few hours lol

[coarse linden]

Personally think its just better to stick with "older" tech and wait until microled comes to market

[polar mountain]

Not flawed

[plucky quail]

Only cuz CPU util is not near 100% or even reach 50% doesnt mean its cpu bound

[gray osprey]

so how do you check if its cpu bound without those indicators?

[plucky quail]

With the GPU

If the GPU doesnt get over 90-95% its most likely CPU bound

[gray osprey]

hard to believe an i7 12700k would be bottlenecking already.

[plucky quail]

I have a 14900K its "Sometimes" Bottlenecking

But you can see it your self with the GPU util test

[past escarp]

well i am cpu bound in bf6. cause it shows that cpu can give me 100 fps and gpu can 110

[coarse linden]

I mean we have that whole GPU Busy metrics just for this

[nimble nexus]

Is it just in S2 or in everything?

And I am having issue with my fan LEDS... I got a Lian Li 216, and the giant fans on teh front are not coming in. Used to work perfectly fine OpenRGB, now they are not working at all

[plucky quail]

Intel hater gonna be happy again

BF6 crashes on some PCs. I dont thing i need to say more..

[safe zealot]

I use no leds. The inside of my PC is dark as my soul. 🖤

[hollow kettle]

I havent had a single issue with bf6 yet in regards to crashes & stuff

Intel cpu + amd gpu

Purple pc

[coarse linden]

Bs you have been launched into air randomly like rest of us

Tho now that honey moon period is over its quite evident that how much of the game is fcked

And how much Dice really bled all the talent away

[safe zealot]

I want bf6 but I will wait for a sale 😉

[polar mountain]

Everything

I cant use the pc at all, if i open any app it will stutter then crash

[hazy arch]

Keep in mind there is a issue with windows 10 and 11 now where DLL's go missing and error all over the place. Currently the quick fix is the savepoint thing of windows where you rollback your machine.

[polar mountain]

It is a fresh install of windows

I installed it 2 weeks ago but couldnt use the pc cause the cpu was sent under warranty

So its like 2-3 days old

[hazy arch]

Bit harsh, but will work too. I am referring to recovery points.

In control panel.

[polar mountain]

Can i send you a vid of whats happening with my pc?

https://youtube.com/shorts/R7wrpRbHW_w?si=6jL8bPoG4eUme-ZB

[hazy arch]

No thank you. 2 systems in 2 weeks of error popping up in windows 10 and 11, trying to reinstall programs give error and the programs on the machine gives errors. Rollback using a recovery point or reinstall windows. If it continues to happen. Hardware.

[swift torrent]

im playing on an 11700k and have no bootleneck so i dont think so too ^^ 5070ti running @ ~95% on PCIe 4.0 only (Boardmaximum) BUT i dont know if i have FSR active (im in my work cant look right now), im running my games as native as it could be. So classic epic options are always on, performancetweaking things (dlss n stuff) are off and doing 60FPS+ on 1440p. One thing you can do to look with GPU-z if the graphicscard is running at the fastest PCIe Mode thats available on you board. Sometimes, "auto" can hickhuck

[pure ibex]

It’s not bf2042 bad but I’m glad I’m not crazy

[past escarp]

daym why does bf6 use 14gb of vram?

[civic hull]

May be the allocated usage that its showing?

[plucky quail]

Cuz 8gb GPUs are dead

[coarse linden]

Says that when folk with RX 580 play the bloody bf6 somehow

[plucky quail]

With the most mushy textures on the planet

boyz the BR was pretty much how BF could have made a BR game. Stayed true to BF5s BR what made that one so special https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn8k1g3vMDU

[hollow kettle]

it was showing 19gb used in campaign with overkill settings and i only have 16gb

multiplayer i turned down all settings to med/low and it still looks good while getting like 50+ more fps

[hazy arch]

Yeah! I love 't when you put a game on low settings and everything still looks good.

[late ferry]

psyghm has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow kettle]

I got an invite to playtest PIONER on steam. It is open world mmo fps PvPvE I think. But the setting makes it seems just like stalker 2's zone! I am gonna try it. Hope it isnt garbage bc it is a nice idea for a game lol

[polar mountain]

did you play arc raiders?

[hollow kettle]

Yeah for about 10 minutes then never launched it again lol

It is cool, graphics are nice but really not my type of game i guess

[hollow kettle]

Outer worlds 2 just released bout to start it

[hazy arch]

I hope they made the weapon upgrade better. It was so bad in the first game.

[safe zealot]

I been watching this game for years, I am looking forward to it

[safe zealot]

I found the first game pretty bland and boring tbh. I hope the new one is more interesting.

[hollow kettle]

Me too I remember playing the first game but never beat it i dont think. I played about one hour or so of 2 before I came to work. It is really cool so far. Graphics are good, frame time is phenomenal for UE title.

So far my main complaints would be no in game FSR frame gen option & linear levels instead of open world. Much rather would have had open world. But this seems promising so far...for linear game at least

At completely max graphics fsr native AA 1440p I get 50-60 fps

With fsr 4 quality 60-80 fps. Using 9-10.5gb vram. I just cannot believe how smooth the frame time is. Rare find in 2025 gaming lol

I will admit too even with say like 50fps, that smooth frame time makes it feel much better than most games

Oh yeah, also, I cannot use Adrenalin features for that game since I play on game pass. I try to manually add & it say "contact owner for permission"

Was trying to use AFMF 2.1

[safe zealot]

Good to know it runs well on AMD. It’ll be a nice change of pace from stalker lol. 😂

[tawny thicket]

Could also just set it globally you know

[hollow kettle]

Yeah i tried it but didnt feel much better. Idk if it was working. I turned it on then restarted the game just to be safe. Maybe seemed slightly more smooth but not really lol idk I gotta play more tonight & tomorrow

[tropic bobcat]

Yet another reason why I unsubscribed from GamePass and stopping using it.

Granted there is a workaround for GamePass but it shouldn’t be necessary.

[hazy arch]

The issue I had with the first game was the upgrading of weapons, rewards for good or bad karma choices is not a thing. Oh and Private Division tried to sell the next gen upgrade after the witcher 3 upgrade was free.

[hollow kettle]

Well, after a bit more playing i honestly do not think the hardware RT in that game is worth it for me. I get dips into the 40s and 50s with it on. With it off, 70-90 fps. And it really doesnt look that much different imo

still plenty playable just i rather have the higher fps in this case. Which is abnormal for me lol

[safe zealot]

I tested RT by doing the benchmark in Cyberpunk and I honestly didn't notice a mind-blowing difference. It was nice, but not worth the hit on my poor 7800XT. 😉

[tawny thicket]

HW lumen is also broken in the outer worlds 2
absolutely destroys shadows

[tawny thicket]

i find cyberprank without RT pretty bland
tho nothing comes close to PT, PT looks gorgeuos there

[polar mountain]

I use a mix of raster and rt, rt shadows and medium lighting

Shadows are worth it and they dont lower fps too much

[tawny thicket]

i just use RT psycho, you can do that on RDNA 4 pretty nicely IMO

[polar mountain]

Too noisy

[tawny thicket]

what ?

i dont think they are VS RT medium + RT-S
tho will admit RT-R does look pretty noisy (especially since they dont let you adjust settings on it)

[polar mountain]

Rt psycho or path tracing look really blurry for my liking, or im being too harsh on it because i seen my 5070ti do it just fine

[tawny thicket]

i mean PT also runs like crap on AMD so...
but yeah, i think it needs RR to look gooder

anyway, im gonna go play a hoplessly unoptimized game

[polar mountain]

😂😂

[tawny thicket]

ARK be like

[polar mountain]

Cant wait to play tarkov on a 9800x3d

[tawny thicket]

r.volumetriccloud.viewRaySampleMaxCount=125
r.volumetriccloud.shadow.sampleatmosphericlightshadowmap=0
r.Shadow.Virtual.Clipmap.LastLevel=18
r.Shadow.Virtual.SMRT.RayLengthScaleDirectional=0.8
grass.DensityScale=2
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.DownsampleFactor=16
r.water.singleLayer.Reflection=3
r.volumetricFog.gridPixelSize=32
r.Lumen.Reflections.MaxRoughnessTotrace=0
r.Lumen.Reflections.MaxRoughnessTotraceForFoliage=0
r.Lumen.screenProbeGather.radianceCache.ProbeResolution=32
r.shadow.virtual.ResolutionLodBiasDirectional=-0.8
r.shadow.virtual.ResolutionLodBiasDirectionalMoving=-0.7
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.DirectLighting=1
beautifull isnt it, thats all it takes for it to be playable at 80% rez + FG

TBF not all of that makes it look worse, some of it makes it look better while running worse but still suboptimal to have to do all that

the game also wants you to restart the game whenever you change AA/upscaling
like WTH

[late ferry]

lightning999933 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

bruh

[tawny thicket]

i have rez scale set to 80 in settings then i check with the console and it says 68% these devs ugh

[hollow kettle]

Is that why the shadows had the same grainy/noisy crap going on as Stalker 2?

[swift torrent]

i had the grainy noisy crap until.i done a full shader cache cleanup ^^ i cant believe i played it so long that way xD

[tawny thicket]

thats just like all UE5 games at least for stutter 2
in the outer worlds 2 though it gets 100 times worse when you use HW RT

[hollow kettle]

Is there a shader cache folder for stalker 2? I reset shader cache in Adrenalin but never have found folders for game's shader cache

[tawny thicket]

most UE5 games dont, id assume stutter 2 is no diferent

[swift torrent]

the shader caches are not managed by the game. just google for a deep windows shader cleanup

since then my trees as example are beatiful with no noise and stuttering in animation

[late ferry]

golinchen has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[swift torrent]

this one specific word is hard to be a bad word...arrr

[hollow kettle]

https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-25-10-2.html

New adrenalin drivers from yesterday
Anyone know what the expanded Vulkan support section is talking about?

I was hoping fsr4 would he supported in Vulkan titles bc of this ^ but i am not sure if that is what it means. Dont think it is

[tawny thicket]

vulkan now supports fp8 on windows

that means: FSR 4 on vulkan

[polar mountain]

Same

[safe zealot]

considering how much trouble they cause, I wish we had better shader cache management options. It’s silly we have to go hunting around for them.

[tawny thicket]

https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-1-2-gpu-driver-support-moved-to-maintenance-mode-game-optimizations-new-tech-for-rdna-3-4-beyond/

R.I.P. RDNA 2

[plucky quail]

Thats really sad. I would understand lil bit 5000 but 6000?? just why. Even like 5000 should be supported. Those are RDNA cards.

I hope next Driver proves diff since this one is optional.

I saw that on the AMD DC that a AMD person said that RDNA2 will get support but no new features
That would also mean AFMF 3 will not be supported on RDNA2

[polar mountain]

afmf3 should be in driver ML fg

[safe zealot]

ugh i think i might have to put this game down for a while. the performance on my current playthrough just keeps getting worse over time. its playable, but not satisfactory. 🙁

and i just dont get it. adrenaline says im averaging 140 fps but it just does NOT feel like it.

is there any reason i cant post a picture here? im trying to post a screenshot of my adrenaline screen but its not letting me.

[tawny thicket]

we are second class citizens, that right is reserved to VIP folk

[tawny thicket]

do you have AFMF enabled ?

[safe zealot]

What’s that?

[tawny thicket]

driver level framegen in the AMD driver

[safe zealot]

hmm ok I’ll look for it thanks

If I use that does that mean I should shut off fg in game?

also should I be using the HYPR-RX profile?

[polar mountain]

no

afmf enabled alone

[tawny thicket]

no it means you should disable AFMF

[plucky quail]

No it’s gonna be self integrated fg

[safe zealot]

Ok I’m confused now, one of you said to enable afmf and the other said to disable it lol.

[plucky quail]

Not about you should it’s more about do you like it/ want it.

Try and see

[polar mountain]

afmf should be enabled alone as a setting in adrenaline, not through using/enabling hyper-rx profile 👍

[safe zealot]

I think I figured out one piece of the puzzle. I had been using AMD Enhanced Sync as a workaround for vsync not working with frame gen. I turned that off and the game is smoother now. so definitely not using that again lol.

I have not tried afmf yet but I will next time I boot up the game.

[safe zealot]

i also did a complete factory reset for adrenaline and left everything default. the only thing I did was turn on free sync.

really seems like some of the “enhancements” in adrenaline just cause more trouble rather than improve anything. 😆

[hazy arch]

Yeah, they really want you to turn it all on.

[polar mountain]

Vsync on in adrenalin is better than that old amd enhanced sync, also if you really want a fps limiter use radeon chill with the same values for idle and peak or use rivatunerstatistics

[tawny thicket]

enahnced sync has helped me with screen tearing a ton in many games

[hollow kettle]

I use enhanced sync always as long as i dont have AFMF enabled. I always have freesync premium enabled though. Enhanced sync is supposed to help freesync i thought

Supposedly enhanced sync is there for if your fps goes over your monitors refresh rate while freesync is active, it will prevent tearing

And also an alternative to v sync if you do not use freesync or whatever

I think i can turn it off then. I have a global fps cap set to 175 and my refresh rate is 180hz

Or maybe i should just get rid of the fps cap & keep enhanced sync enabled

[safe zealot]

Btw, isn’t free sync supposed to stop screen tearing? I have it on but for some reason i still get tearing in S2 unless i use vsync 🤔

and yes I have it on in my monitor too

[polar mountain]

what refresh rate and monitor?

[safe zealot]

It’s dell

144 I think

[hollow kettle]

@hazy arch i didn't get far enough in the first one to be able to compare but so far in outer worlds 2, the crafting/modifications seems to be pretty decent. I haven't had much experience with it yet, but so far this is definitely a cool game. Bit slow at first but really picks up & gets good a little later on

[plucky quail]

https://wccftech.com/amd-backtracks-says-it-will-continue-game-optimizations-and-features-support-for-rdna-1-and-rdna-2-gpus/

Well Well Well AMD

[tawny thicket]

announce (effectively) EOL on some recently released products (as well as 3 to 4 year old ones)
get surprised by criticism
sort of backtrack but not really

[azure ore]

Are shadows are impactful setting

[hazy arch]

No spoilers, basically what happened in the first game. If you wanted to use a unique you got early game by upgrading it. You would need a amount of money and resources accumulated over multiple new games to upgrade the weapon as you go through the game. It's like they want you to drop weapons and use weapons from new areas, because their level is higher.

[hazy arch]

Yeah, poor revolutionary underdog AMD. They just stop thinking from time to time. I really hope Intel graphics wipes the floor with them... And I have a AMD graphics card and is happy with it. But they do this every few years and I'm sick of it.

[faint gust]

Guys is it just me or does Nvidia reflex constantly turn itself off in the game?

[plucky quail]

Does the game have the toggle for it even?

[faint gust]

Yes, in display settings

[plucky quail]

Theory you can turn it on with just using FG

But youll need to use FG.

If you dont have a 40 series you can test it with a MS test app

[faint gust]

I have 3070ti

[plucky quail]

Nvidia has System Latency Overlay

If you want you can see there. IF its jumping up and down youll know

[hollow kettle]

wow i figured out why outer worlds 2 felt so choppy even with smooth frame time adn high fps. Enhanced sync in Adrenalin was enabled. Idk why in no other games it has this issue, but turning it off fixed it for this game at least lol

[coarse linden]

Reflex doesnt require FG. But FG does require Reflex

[safe zealot]

i dont think ive ever had an issue with it, but it seemed to kill smoothness in S2 for some reason, so i shut it off

[azure ore]

What graphics setting improves the games visuals without hurting performance

I run textures and effects on high every else on low and I use 60% sharpness with fsr without frame gen

[plucky quail]

No but FG has Reflex that why people think its more responsive even tho it is only of reflex

Also it most likely work with no problem

[civic hull]

I cant say by myself but just googe "optimized settings" and some redit post or youtube video will appear

[plucky quail]

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

New survey lol and i got to had part of it.

[civic hull]

How many laptops with a 4060 are there, jeez

And I am one of those stupid people thay bought one

[tawny thicket]

Oh yes, my Vega 3 brothers, RISE UP !!

More people have a vega 3 than 5600 XT yes yes RISE !!!!

[azure ore]

I have seen guides saying to dissable high performance event timer

[pastel summit]

holy cow, 4060 laptop now up top.

really shows how college students are the largest demographic for gaming laptops of any kind.

[coarse linden]

Its not updated survey tho

[pastel summit]

that and the 1650/2050, and 3050 was historically popular. I miss the time when 1650 dominated the Steam chart lol

oh, yeah. but still.

[civic hull]

Actually, it was almost always on too

[coarse linden]

Should be October not September survey

[pastel summit]

not surprising.

don't mind my armchair commentary too much btw.

[hollow kettle]

Holy crap dude I got the steam hardware survey

First time in over 13 years of using steam lol

And I double checked this time to make sure it didn't say Radeon (TM) Graphics. It actually said Radeon RX 9070. Shame they are not anywhere on the survey results though

[plucky quail]

Lol we both got to get asked on the same time. Idk how many they ask but still cool

[coarse linden]

Oh now they have updated the survey

[coarse linden]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 do be under Vulkan systems with 0.22%

[safe zealot]

Ok I posted about this before and I still haven't found a solution.

AMD Freesync doesn't appear to be working for me in S2. I have it activated both on my monitor and in Adrenaline, but I'm still getting screen tearing. The only way to stop it is to turn on Vync.

Any ideas?

[plucky quail]

What kind of Free sync do you have?

[safe zealot]

what do you mean?

[plucky quail]

Premium, compatible or pro

[safe zealot]

oh ok. in my monitor it says premium pro.

[plucky quail]

Damn

[plucky quail]

How much FPS do you get

and what hz does your monitor has?

[safe zealot]

144

[plucky quail]

❓

[safe zealot]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095X7RV77?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

[plucky quail]

But how much FPS do you have ingame ?

[safe zealot]

idk id have to turn on some kind of monitor

[plucky quail]

you run FG?

[safe zealot]

last time i checked it was like 120 or something

not now, no. because i have to keep vsync on for the tearing.

[plucky quail]

but with the tearing you had fg on

[safe zealot]

no. i get tearing unless vsync is on.

fg doesnt matter

[plucky quail]

What cable do you have in your monitor? Do they even support VRR?

BTW how do you even get 120FPS?

[safe zealot]

i use displayport

[plucky quail]

What version?

[safe zealot]

idk

[plucky quail]

1.0-1.2 does not support it

Can you maybe say what you have like Driver version. Monitor setting, Game settings, ...

also does capping FPS help?

[safe zealot]

all my drivers are up to date

i have tried capping the fps. 120 seems to be best.

[plucky quail]

but how do you have 120FPS?

also Can you maybe say what you have like Driver version. Monitor setting, Game settings, ...

[safe zealot]

idk what this means

my drivers are the last one, i havent updated yet

[plucky quail]

Like how do you get 120FPS 5090 doesnt even get that much +

[safe zealot]

idk hold let enable the amd overlay so i can see what it is

omg i just figured out what the problem was. i'm an idiot lol.

i just updated to windows 11 a week or so ago. for some reason windows set my monitor refresh rate to 60 hz lol.

i changed it to 144 and now its fine

[plucky quail]

💀

[safe zealot]

no wonder my framerate was sucking lol

[plucky quail]

how you didint notice 60hz. My eyes cant stand 60 anymore

[safe zealot]

i did notice, that's why ive been pulling my hair out trying to fix the crappy performance lol

omg its so much better now haha

[hollow kettle]

for some reason every time i set a game to borderless windwed with freesync premium pro enabled it auto locks my refresh rate to 170hz in windows and game settings. My monitor max refresh is 180hz though if i switch to exclusive fullscreen in games it lets me change refresh rate but soon as i swap back to borderless it drops to 170hz again

[azure ore]

What happens when the shader cashe is cleared for stalker 2?

[past escarp]

gabe newell hits you with strike from orbital cannon i guess

[azure ore]

Is it ok to set texture and shadows to high on a rtx 4070 and 75800x3d ?

[past escarp]

no, i will come to your home and slap your butt

[azure ore]

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-nervios-gif-8896313124420390361

[plucky quail]

You can do that

[azure ore]

What performance would i be getting

About 60?

[civic hull]

what if you try it

[past escarp]

depends

is it fhd or qhd?

[azure ore]

Fhd

While looking at the floor i get 147

[azure ore]

In hubs its about 70

Outside hubs its ranging from 80 to 107

[real kraken]

Is there any difference between epic and high settings ?

[azure ore]

Textures?

[real kraken]

No all

Preset high vs epic

[plucky quail]

Yes epic takes max settings or epic and high takes high really simple

[tropic bobcat]

This game uses 90% of my CPU and 60% of my GPU, sick bro.

[plucky quail]

What damn CPU you got that you cant get it GPU bound?

[real kraken]

I wanted to talk about visual difference

Like if it's noticable

[plucky quail]

On that idk i just know higher shadow and texture increase picture much better. But i dont remember if it had epic setting on it

[tropic bobcat]

It’s the game, actually.

7800x3D + 7900 XTX. 😆

[plucky quail]

Are you talking about towns or just on the outside?

[tropic bobcat]

Pffft.

This isn’t STALKER, this is Star Citizen. Stalker runs like butter compared to this game.

exhibit a: https://i.imgur.com/UI7oDjs.png

[plucky quail]

Oh you talking about SC

[tropic bobcat]

yuh

[plucky quail]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-releases-statement-confirming-rdna1-and-rdna2-will-continue-to-receive-game-optimizations

[tropic bobcat]

They're a hot mess right now.

[hollow kettle]

not really

i switched to high preset instead of epic and cant tell visual difference in gameplay, but i got a whole lot more fps lol

[civic hull]

In almost every game ever after 2010 or so, ultra settings just apply everything to max, mostly used for cool screenshots/video recordings or stressing the hardware. Gameplay wise, they don't matter

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/-PQ7G7l4KAk?si=XdMEAEH2kNsUmfHW

[azure ore]

Put shadows, textures, effects on high, i use fsr 3.1 with 60% sharpness but use whatever works for you

[real kraken]

Ok lol

[real kraken]

Yeah, maybe decrease some settings to high

[azure ore]

Going from high to ultra dosnt change much except from the fps

[tropic bobcat]

So nothing changed, as per usual.

AMD’s dogshit marketing team at work.

[coarse linden]

Heh finally got around playing callisto protocol. Abysmal RT as expected really from AMD sponsored game

And the constant transitioning scenes made me miss loading screens lol

Same thing pissed me off in shadow of the tomb raider

[hazy arch]

Oh, the crawl space loading. I think on of the newer god of wars do the same.

[coarse linden]

I find it very annoying. Much rather just have that 1sec loading screen

[plucky quail]

Nah ill pass do it like Star citizen no loading screen

no crawl just game

[coarse linden]

I mean if they could they would

But since they design it with HDD in mind they must slow you down. Without these performance eats dogshit

[plucky quail]

PS4 support was toooo long

5 years after with games for it was just too much.

[hollow kettle]

have you played the dead space remake?

[coarse linden]

Remake? no original yes

[hollow kettle]

oh and that newer game called something like Cronos New Dawn. My cousin got that one on ps5 pro and it is actually fairly decent

that dead space remake is very, very good though

beautifully done imo. Exactly how a remake should be done

[safe zealot]

I’ve been playing Cronos. Pretty good game. Doesn’t really do anything new, but it has a really good atmosphere.

[hollow kettle]

Not really horror but if you own/enjoy VR, Metro Awakening looks like it could be alright. Idk for sure though, only seen trailers and whatnot. But I have had it on my wish list for awhile now

I love the metro trilogy. Played the first two as a kid originally then played them all again last year

[safe zealot]

I LOVE the metro games. I wish I could play awakening but I have no VR. 😔

[hollow kettle]

i got lucky a few years back my friend got me a quest 2 set for my birthday

should i get Alan Wake for $12.50 and then try to find the sequel for a discount later on i am too indecisive

Wow looks like i am going to have to be buying stalker 2. They are removing it from game pass in 12 days

$48 on xbox app

If i purchase in GOG could I transfer my xbox app save files ?

[late ferry]

speciuletz has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[safe zealot]

memory question:
Is it worth it upgrading from 2x16 to 4x16? I like the idea of having 64 GB, but I read that having 4 sticks makes your system “slower”. But I’m not sure how big a deal that is. 🤔

[stark kayak]

What cpu socket you have?

[safe zealot]

am4 X570

[civic hull]

Its better to have 2, yes, but it wont make it slower. It will be slower than if you had 2x32, but not slow

Now, is it worth it? Depends what activitoes you do on your pc. Do you think they warrant a change?

[plucky quail]

It’s better having 2x. But 4x doesn’t equal slower. It just could be that your cpu can’t do that much and you need to downclock

[plucky quail]

@pure ibex https://videocardz.com/newz/third-sapphire-rx-9070-xt-nitro-with-blue-tipped-12v-2x6-adapter-shows-burn-damage

Stupid people hurt them self the most

[pure ibex]

[hollow kettle]

Ddr4 you can fill all 4 slots fine but ddr5 you wanna just use the two slots listed in your motherboard manual

I mean, you can use all 4 in ddr5 slots but it will limit speed to slowest stick installed iirc. Something like that

[pure ibex]

https://www.techpowerup.com/342533/amd-radeon-rx-9070-and-rx-9070-xt-finally-reach-msrp?amp

[pure ibex]

If your miss matching ddr5 your kinda dumb as rocks

[civic hull]

Doesnt that happen with every version? Like, they all limit it to the lowest

[hollow kettle]

i thought even if they are all the same it limits the pcie lanes or something something? Idk the details, only that you should not do it supposedly lol

Stalker 2 is on sale with GOG for $41. I think if I buy it, load it up, make a new save, copy the name and change all my MS version save files to match the GOG version save. I think it might work..but i dont wanna spend the money and have to start over. MS Store version is $48 right now. Not sure what to do

oh sorry i already said part of that message earlier and forgot

[past escarp]

doesnt your ram speed locks to the slowest stick like anyway?

[hazy arch]

From what I remember, buildzoid explained it years ago, as the route increase. Through using more sticks as a possed to using sticks with more memory. It messes with tightning timing. So DDR1-5, two sticks will hold a higher frequency and tighter timings better then 4 sticks. But then obviously hardware quality is definitely also a factor. And if you try to be smart by adding a third stick. Same.

[plucky quail]

Is 1.7 already out?

Wrong ping 😑

[past escarp]

maybe

[pure ibex]

If you don’t use memory with matching chips

Your gonna have a bad time

[past escarp]

like samsung chips, hynix ones?

[pure ibex]

Yes

Cus they won’t run the same timings

[topaz olive]

hey guys, how's performance since the game came out? I've go an intel i5-13400f, 16gb of ddr5 and an rtx 4070 12gb and I remember having to play with dlss on at launch to even get 60 fps on 1080p with v-sync

I'm re-installing the game right now after seeing the night vision, a-life and mutant update notes, also new weapons

[hazy arch]

Should be better now. Atleast for me performance increased.

[civic hull]

And it should be better with the engine upgrade thats coming (some time in the future)

[spare coral]

If the performance still doesnt convince you just wait for the engine upgrade

[topaz olive]

I'll see when it's done installing, what's this supposed engine upgrade anyway? will they finally abandon ue5?

I personally don't care about seeing every single fibre of a tree stump or the pores on scar's face, I just want an immersive and stable expirience

[spare coral]

They will update ue5 to a more newer version cause rn they are using an old one with tons of problems

Performance will go up thanks to that but we still don't know by how much

[plucky quail]

You had 6FPS on 1080P on a 4070? damn i dont remember the game lik that

[topaz olive]

ah damn, I meant 60 lol

I remember SIRCAA being a nightmare

[plucky quail]

Oh then its pretty much the same as before maybe 70FPS. Had played this game in june with a 12400F what is basically the same CPU just slight lower clocks.

[tawny thicket]

its worse

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/agrees-kermit-nod-nodding-gif-18349078367399397347

[tawny thicket]

they'll just upgrade to a newer, less sh't version, from 5.1 to 5.5 should be a nice improvement, theoretically but we'll have to wait and see

theres 3 way this can go
A: the game becomes an even bigger mess and might even run worse
B: effectivly nothing changes
C: the game gets ~~much ~~better

[plucky quail]

*C: the game gets better

[tawny thicket]

hmm.. true

dunno why i added "much"

[safe zealot]

I also wonder how much of an actual difference the UE update is going to make

[hollow kettle]

only time will tell

[modest wren]

You’ll probably get a more stable fps but your definitely bottlenecked by your CPU. Especially because you play at 1080p

[plucky quail]

WTF happend in the latest update. Started the game again and in the open i have now 70FPS before it was 80 lol. I guess nothing will change next update. Just getting like it was in 5 months ago

[hollow kettle]

I havent played in a month or so. Probably not going to anymore at all unless some drastic changes are made and/or new content added to justify $50+ on the game

Guess i have 10 or 11 days to play before they remove it from game pass

[spare coral]

Just wait for a sale during xmas

[silk cliff]

Will upgrading my processor from an i5 to an i9 give me more consistent and smooth FPS?

I get barely around 105+ FPS; Game is good enough, I got this computer last year November

[past escarp]

which i5 which i9

what gpu

[silk cliff]

I'd have to do some research, but I have an i5-14400F

RTX 4060 Ti

I play with optimized settings at 1080p

[tawny thicket]

in settlements yes, otherwise probably not

[silk cliff]

Hmm, is it worth it? Or maybe just wait for better optimization or workshop addons for optimization?

[past escarp]

id say that probably upgrading ur gpu would be worth it

but why would you need 100fps+ in singleplayer game?

[civic hull]

Looks good

But I would wait for the engine upgrade if you dont want to spend money

[silk cliff]

I love the Stalker games and I preordered the game back in 2022 and I worked hardcore to get my first ever desktop last year.
If there is one game I want to have all the bells and whistles for, it's Stalker

[civic hull]

And i5 to i9 wont be that big of an upgrade, if the i9 is the same or lower generation

[silk cliff]

There is gonna be an engine upgrade?

[civic hull]

It will of course help, but the biggest change you can make is to buy an AMD cpu, although you probably need a new motherboard too

[silk cliff]

Mmm okay

[civic hull]

Yeah, to 5.5.4

[past escarp]

then sucks to be you. game uses ue5 so its a total mess in terms of optimization

[silk cliff]

I know, I know

[civic hull]

Mostly because intel cpu suck in pricing, compared to amd

[silk cliff]

The Stalker games will last forever no matter what with the community, the originals I played for many years, mods, etc.

[past escarp]

i mean. i did the same thing. bought 7800xt and r7 7700 for this game, but its better not to chase 100fps+ without framegen if you dont want to spend a ton of money

[past escarp]

also i7 and i9 were just killing themselves like a year ago i guess?

[civic hull]

There were a couple of problems woth the 12-13th gen iirc. Probbaly 14th too. There were a couple of cpus that werent affected and there was a fix that should've fixed it

But its mostly the pricing whats killing intel, at least for gaming. They arent bad cpu, not at all, its the price what makes smd sell well

[silk cliff]

I see, I am not very familiar with specs, I had an ex-friend help me choose all the right parts, but when I plan to upgrade I'll learn and do my part

[civic hull]

Dont worry, your pc is good, be happy with it. You are also getting pretty good fps

[silk cliff]

Thank you, yes I know and I've come a long way of playing Borderlands 2 at like 420p or something on a laptop

[civic hull]

I know that feeling hehe

[silk cliff]

R.i.p. Lowspecgamer

[past escarp]

yeah. no worries. i5s are not affected by that defect and its still good pc for like all games in 1080p

[civic hull]

After rocking an intel i5 2nd gen and a g105m for years, I got myself a laptop with an i9 13900h and a 4060. Could be better? Of course
Regrets? 0

[silk cliff]

Wow nice, before I even got my own PC, I got my sister a SCAR 16 I believe it was

Was off BackMarket, had issues and we had to refund it and got her a TUF, forget the specs, but I believe it's the same a 4060

[past escarp]

i remember a time long ago, when i used to play on laptop with i3 3110m, gt630m and 4gb of ram

[civic hull]

Low specs gang

[past escarp]

everybody gets to start somewhere

after that laptop i had ryzen 5 3600, gtx 1660ti and 16gb of ram

[silk cliff]

Nice, I used the crap outta an OMEN 15, was a GTX 1060 with 12gb RAM, swelled battery put it on life support, but it's done me well

I still have it, I wanna get it refurbished, just haven't gone out and looked for repair shops and I am weary of it

[past escarp]

also i remember playing on friends acer laptop with i5 10th gen and mx250 i guess

[tawny thicket]

as someone whos just got their first HRR monitor i can confirm : D

[past escarp]

it was awful, it couldnt handle cs:go and would throttle to 0.5GHz

[civic hull]

Even tho I can come back to 60fps, I will try everything, even making the game look worse, just to have 144

Cause it looks so smooth

[civic hull]

The thermal paste inside:

[silk cliff]

It's a big difference, I've got a 165hz. I was playing GTA V on the Xbox, 360 and man... crazy

After a while I got used to 30fps though, takes a little

Anyway, thanks for the info guys! I've written it down and will look into it after some more updates as you guys suggested

[past escarp]

if you need help - write it here. this chat is really friendly and people will help you

[topaz olive]

ok, so after starting a new playthrough the intro was oddly perfect, stable 60+ fps right up until I got control of skif, yet the intro is in real time and not a cutscene

reloaded a previous save of my first run from when I was in my pripyat and imo performance didn't change much compared to when the game releases

[civic hull]

Uh, I dont think that reloading an old save will just give you the older game version

How many fps do you have, and which were your specs?

[topaz olive]

.

[civic hull]

Its weird that you are getting 60, you should be getting more with that pc

[civic hull]

What settings btw

[topaz olive]

Everything is on high right now but I've also tried bare minimum and medium settings

[civic hull]

Im seeing people with a 4070 getting 60+ on native high

Are you sure your hardware is ok or smth? Or do you have smth opened on the background

[topaz olive]

nah, I'm sure my drivers are up to date and my rig is fine, further evidence is me being able to play battlefield 6 on ultra with stable FPS and not even a drop on performance there

[civic hull]

Weird

[topaz olive]

someone said it could be CPU bottleneck but other games run great, even escape from tarkov PvE and that game is badly optimized

[civic hull]

But those games arent in UE5, right? And dont have the level of optimization of S2. So they are a bit different to compare

Im not sure what it could be tbh, sorry

[topaz olive]

no worries, even with a little bit of performance issues I'm able to enjoy the game and if this 5.5 engine upgrade goes well, I guess it'll be a win

[kind drift]

Get a a better GPU and a better monitor.

Monitor makes the biggest difference in how your game will look and any game for that matter, I'd advise against a 4K monitor though.
I got a LG UltraGear OLED 32GS95UV-B which can run games in 240Hz in UHD 4K but it's such a shame when you cannot achieve such performance most of the time.

2560 x 1440p is the best you can get right now.

[civic hull]

Yeah I would probably choose 1440p when possible

[kind drift]

My advise would be to get a better monitor or head for the RTX 5060 or RTX 5070, should pair up nicely with the i5-14400F.
It's a 14th gen after all.

[civic hull]

4K can look great, but 1440 gives you enough, and its good for "future proofing"

[civic hull]

I would recommend AMD cards tbh, they are generally at better pricing. But, if you get a good nvidia deals, and you are aiming at 1440, then a 5070 is good

[kind drift]

i9 is a bit overkill, only really good if you use it for rendering projects like video's and actual objects.
An i9 has more core and clocks but it's not worth the gain for gaming, slight improvement over the i5 for games.
Good middle ground is an i7 in my opinion but still not worth upgrading just the CPU.

https://howmanyfps.com/processors/comparisons/core-i5-14400f-vs-core-i9-14900kf/stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl

[civic hull]

Damn, I want an Oled now

[kind drift]

It's stunning! Blacks are actually pitch black.
Only complaint is the fact that it's 4K.

Even with an RTX5090 and a i7 14700k I cannot get the frames I would like to get in most games.

Not like I get 30fps but sometimes in the 80's it starts to hurt my feelings

[civic hull]

What about older games, do they also look great with oled?

[kind drift]

Anything looks great with OLED.

[civic hull]

Its crazy what I do because, when I get new hardware, I play older games to see how the feel lol. Makes the nostalgia feel good

[kind drift]

I can stare at paint drying on my monitor and won't get bored of looking at all the little pixels.
Did have to get used to the way text looks from up very close.

At normal distance you don't notice it but if you crawl up to your PC like someone who needs glasses, it'll be noticable.
Text isn't that sharp.

[kind drift]

If you want to get the most out of your current system I'd say a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 or something similar and a new monitor would do you wonders.

[civic hull]

What made my jaw drop, was this monitor: https://youtu.be/nc7MHEMcVVI?si=I8AxIJyFKbvBF0PL

[kind drift]

I had a RTX3080 and a 1920x1080p monitor and I was always wonderign why certrain new titles looked so incredibly bad no matter what I did.
Especially Red Dead Redemption 2.

[civic hull]

Mostly the section where he puts ambient light on it, and you cant see it reflect it (well, barely)

[kind drift]

That's just overkill.
Also activate windows watermark

[civic hull]

Oh yeah, of course it overkill lol.
But I like his phone's light just disappearing on the monitor when full black

[kind drift]

You definelty notice the swap from 60hz to 144hz to 240hz though.

[civic hull]

Fr

[kind drift]

I can achieve 480Hz in dual mode but I've never tried that.

That'll force my display on 1920x1080 so I'll get black bars everywhere but my FPS will be through the roof.

[kind drift]

Loads of complaints about pixels burning in with any OLED but my monitor cleans itself automatically if I shut it off.
I am more sensitive about leaving my monitor on when I don't have to though.
But I always had the habit of shutting down my monitor and whole PC when leaving it.

But yeah, 1440p is worth it. Totally.
Newer games are made for 1440p and look horrid on most 1080p screens.
4K is mostly overkill, mainly because it drains GPU's.

Few games are the exception of course but generally speaking everything that comes out, except the most optimized titles don't run with the super high FPS you'd expect the latest card to pull.
Not unplayable like 20-30fps, although ArmA 3 has taught me that 10-20fps is playable for hours.
But you'll stick around the 60's and 90's mostly in 4K with really pretty graphical settings.

Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing and ray tracing is insane but even I cannot pull every setting off on a RTX5090 in 4K

[plucky quail]

That thing is totally useless

The FPS there dont correlate to the FPS in the game.

[kind drift]

For most games, CPU isn't what gives you a massive FPS boost.
It's the GPU.
Only exception is ArmA 3 and Escape From Tarkov which are both very CPU heavy and demanding.

And yeah, websites are usually pretty mediocre at comparing parts, even GPU's since it'll vary per system and combination of parts.
Even then, two people with the exact same parts in their PC can have two different experiences.

[tawny thicket]

fps calculator worthlessness

anyway, got my first ever HRR monitor

feels good, too bad i cant get near 144hz usually but atleast now ill just get to FG everything without consequences

[coarse linden]

Heh

Rip RTX 50 super's

[ionic remnant]

Any new pc news ?

[safe zealot]

Not much. I think 1.7 is coming soon with MASTER difficulty, if you're into that.

[coarse linden]

Should have put achievement for it tbh

[past escarp]

Why?

[past escarp]

I hope so, cause i want to try this new mode. Honestly i wonder how they are going to make it worse then economy on release

[coarse linden]

Massive shortage of 3GB GDDR7 chips

Just like there is massive shortage of DDR5 now

Because AI : D

[plucky quail]

People skiping the normal series and now not getting the super one

[coarse linden]

Will come eventually but as of now its not economically viable lol

[plucky quail]

Will it be even worth by then or have a alright cost. 5080S for 1500$ aint really worth it

[coarse linden]

If they really insisted it would add about 200 - 300 on the price

Which doesnt make much sense especially when they can squeeze that from server clients and they wont complain about it

Also funny that european wholesalers cant seem to get ECC DDR5 at all. Prices practically doubled and will triple by end of the year

Side effect of that is they start to poach on DDR5 which will lead consumer side to rise sharply

[plucky quail]

We love AI. Come on we get so much out of it. ITs soo 100% worth it

[late ferry]

plebnation has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky quail]

🐺

[coarse linden]

Bloody bot... If you are planning of upgrading to AM5 you are pretty much screwed already

SSD prices will also rise since there starts to be NAND shortage because they drove production down start of this year

Except QLC SSD's not even AI sloppers want that crap

[past escarp]

So everything that is memory-related for pc's now has awful prices

[plucky quail]

X3D users ✌🏼

[past escarp]

And whats with them?

[plucky quail]

They depend less on Ram speed that way they dont need to buy the better sticks if prices are too high.

[coarse linden]

Except AMD was just sued by patent troll for it

[plucky quail]

That will do nothing tho. Pretty much usual Sued AMD to get some money. But if the Judge still says they are right then well good bye my X3D back to the raw clock speeds.

[coarse linden]

Or price goes up because licensing. Basically what Asetek did to AIO market for years until their troll patent expired

[pure ibex]

What if I told you I already know the answer

[plucky quail]

thats cheating

[civic hull]

SAY IT. BURN THE NDA

[pure ibex]

The nda I have is based entirely on trust factor

I just like gas lighting you guys too much to say

[civic hull]

[plucky quail]

If my equation is right then the thing you voted on is the wrong answer and with that it will come this year out!

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-miles-edgeworth-adrian-andrews-hold-it-gif-15532008487349946287

[pure ibex]

But I didn’t vote

I gotta keep selling the illusion

[plucky quail]

🤨 Ok i get it you "didnt" vote 🤫

[safe zealot]

the new equipment stats screen coming in 1.7 is a work of art

[serene meteor]

Made me bust a nut frfr

Shii popped the moment i saw that announcment

They call me one ball pete now

Probs gon lose the other one trying to sit w crossed legs

[plucky quail]

Crazy that we call this amazing for a UI change that should been here since day 0

[hollow kettle]

I am so sad I am losing this game. Why the heck they gotta remove it from game pass. It was a day one release! I dont think it is really worth paying full price for at this point. I basically beat the game already

[plucky quail]

Stupid not to buy your games. Even if we dont REALLY own it.

[hollow kettle]

What is the point of buying it when i already pay for game pass every month though? I wouldnt have spent full price for this game tbh only reason I play is because it was on game pass

[plucky quail]

not even rent gamepass

[safe zealot]

just wait for a sale and buy the game 🤷🏻‍♂️

[plucky quail]

or buy key

[spare coral]

Wait for a sale for the key
Srsly just wait for a sale later when the game feels more complete idk

[coarse linden]

Where did they promise?

[safe zealot]

true lol. it really makes me wonder how they didn't think anyone would notice that basic stuff from the original games wasnt in the new one at launch.

[past escarp]

yeah, game was half-complete on "release"

[late ferry]

chingbillin420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ebon epoch]

While I don't particularly care much about the "BuT tHe oRIgInALs hAd It" arguments, it's true that some of these updates are very low hanging fruit that gsc gets for a cheap PR boost among the fanbase in exchange for a minimal amount of effort.

I swear it's like they sat down and were like "what's the easiest way we can get everyone to clap when they see it so we can keep the hype going until we can manage to put out some actual improvements to the game?"

"Oh I know! How about NVG and binoculars?"
"whoa whoa whoa there sport, how about we do NVG, and then binoculars the following update?"

[lyric lily]

I didn't see the message, but yes, that worked with Linux back then with a workaround. Now it's also very easy to do under Win11 with an RX 7000 graphics card. Just check out Ancient Gameplay (YouTube) for instructions. Best regards

[past escarp]

I mean like... They had mutant parts in previous games, nvg and binoculars, a-life. So i dont see any reason for it to not be in release

[reef zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-you're-sick-you-know-that-home-alone-gif-11376274329670961683

[plucky quail]

That’s 5 months old

[pastel summit]

from a game dev perspective I wouldn't call these updates low hanging fruit.

a lot of work had to be done to add NVG, it's just not add X items and call it a day like OXA does: improved NPC behavior so that they can distinguish between different lightning scenarios, new features for weapons to accommodate NVG gameplay, and maybe other stuffs that I can't think of right now.

same for binoculars, adding that means you have to rework the entire NPC render system from the ground up, and risk killing console performance - now you need UE update just to facilitate zooming for binoculars.

of course, all this speaks of S2 being under-developed at launch given how so many mechanics still need further work. but that's just the reality of making games between a rock and a hard place unfortunately.

[plucky quail]

So let’s scrap UE5 and go back to 4.
idk how they even want to extract that much performance to do the many things they wanted to do and older games already had

[past escarp]

Still game does not have mechanica that should've been there in the first place, thats why you will be able to fully experience game only after 1-2 yrs after its release

[pastel summit]

well, unfortunately to develop a game you need money. and that Epic sponsor money gave GSC what they needed to make S2 a thing in the first place

if you ask me I'd much prefer to have Epic and Microsoft give GSC monies, over not having a STALKER sequel at all

[plucky quail]

Blud wasted 6years and sponsor money to getting half ass game out. That’s just bad management.

[pastel summit]

not 6, more like 2 - 3 years of actual devtime and another 2 for re-developing S2 story from the ground up.

because you can't have A-Life without developing a huge map and the story to go with it, lol.

[mighty barn]

you can, most of the story triggers happen in places AI doesnt go to and the AI can be coded to work while the player is in a story mission like duga (or not which would do the same)

[azure ore]

Is there a setting to improve long range visibility

[plucky quail]

BTW to make the game look better I think they need to drop 8gb support and Xbox S

[pure ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/slender-slenderman-cute-slendrina-cute-cat-gif-956440826781817693

[past escarp]

agree. they need to drop support for everything that is slightly less powerful then nasa pc

[autumn sable]

lol. you people are cheap if you can't runj this game (i am currently missing some organs that i had to sell for a better pc to run this game. pray that i live to the 40s

but on the serious side. i guess that the reason why im happy with preformance is because i don't mind dlss. kinda comes with the teritory since i had to use it for so long because my GPU used to be... below avarage

[plucky quail]

LOD of textures are just bad in that game. Like I have all on epic 1440p and it’s still swapping textures out in 10m distance. Also another reason why the game looks smeary

[tawny thicket]

You mean stutter 2 ?

[past escarp]

well you see, this happens because of poor optimisation. i believe that ue5 is poorly optimised, but developers unwillingness to optimise it makes things even worse

[reef zenith]

Does anyone else get the sides of the screen glitchy/ghosty when using NVG? (I believe it's a FG problem)

[clever bear]

Has anyone actually had any luck with disabling the sysmem fallback for nvidia or is that just smoke?

I have a 5090 so definitely enough vram even for 4k gaming, but this memory leak is ticking me off (and i have 96gb sys ram)

[mortal pond]

They literally can’t do that and the game is already so heavy as is the series s makes all other platforms run better due to having to optimize

[plucky quail]

Most baloney that i ever heard. They cant reduce load on the CPU cuz of the S series...? They are swapping textures as if the game is from 1999.
It would literally run better with less support of older/Worst hardware.
Also less need to Invest time in those hardware.
Like Stalker needs Direct storage to fix it or just throw support for older hardware or both. This game is soo bad still.

[mortal pond]

The cpu in the series s is plenty powerful enough idk what that has to do with anything.

The game is just poorly optimized scapegoating the series s when frankly the fact they had to optimize for it makes everyone’s experience better.

[plucky quail]

Yes and the fact that that Console exist is a disgrace. They cant do it apparently to fix the game with just better optimization and i dont think they really can. The game looks awful and performance is bad. 5.5 must be a miracle or else something needs to drop.
Fact is anyway that Dropping support of 8GB or least 6GB GPUs and Series S will improve performance.

Many people here upgraded or need to upgrade the CPU cuz its not enough so that would be good thing.

[mortal pond]

That’s a pretty elitist take, the series s is pretty good for what it is. It’s also not 5 year old very budget hardware.

Most people have gpus with 8gb or less of vram so the point is moot unless you only care about the 5-10%.

Besides this isn’t how optimization works. Series S isn’t holding the game back the performance would be much worse if they didn’t have to ship on it.

The series s has just as capable a cpu as the ps5 and is 90% with the series x it’s not a bottleneck

[mortal pond]

You’re just taking out your anger in a misguided way.

Anger that should be directed at poor optimization the game runs pretty badly even 1 year after launch. Or even be mad at UE 5 and its issues granted its 5.1 and we’re on 5.7.

We’re talking about a cpu that gets about 5600x often better performance so idk why you’re complaining. Well I do you’re angry and misinformed so you’re putting your anger into stupid directions can’t help you if you’re ignorant and refuse to learn.

[mighty barn]

he do be right Consoles are a net negative

[plucky quail]

No Xbox series S is holding back the same with those other GPUs. If we had a usual game here with no problem in performance and visuals than yes makes sense to keep them. But you have one side with their CPUs not being powerful enough and the other side having enough Vram. In anyway you cant have both in this situation.

They would have other PCs that hold this game back with the CPU requirements. Series S has a better cpu what would still not change from the god awful 10GB the Series s has.

IDK if you understand it but its not the CPU thats the problem here with the visual and performance price on the CPU. Its the Amount of swaps this game does to keep the Vram limit in. Thats because of the limited vram. That swap cost CPU prosses. Its much easier to lower GPU prosses than CPU. Thats the point. You need a nasa CPU to have mild performance.

I hope the 5.5 update has something good for most people.
But how much they need to optimize for lower end is just making performance for most people worse.
Either way they finally fix the performance like magic or like end the support for those Hardware Configs. something needs to be done.

I ts not even Anger. Just the next logical step to get this game fixed

[nimble nexus]

just have to wait and see how they develop the game under the updated engine.

[sly wagon]

I just got a new PC with a 5090 and a 9950, why is my game running terribly?

[reef zenith]

I mean that's the unreal engine for you... can be absolutely amazing but a pain in the butt to optimize for.

Even with a top of the line PC

[sly wagon]

i've been wanting to play so badly, maybe ill have to spend some time optimizing

[civic hull]

What is your resolution, and how many fps do you get?

[reef zenith]

Also true that if your just cranking it at 4K native maxed out.... it will also run bad 😅

[ebon epoch]

the joys of masterrace gaming

don't forget to update your drivers and check your gpu's control panel just to see people swear that actually rolling back the drivers and/or the gpu software is the culprit for your low performance, rolling them back and then seeing that it made no damn difference 🤪

[safe zealot]

i think some folks are just too proud to use upscaling and frame gen 🤓

[tender patrol]

Because of Windows or skill issue. My game is running just fine with just 7800XT on linux.

[tender patrol]

Upscaling - good. Frame gen - input lag. Input lag - bad.

[safe zealot]

i dont notice any input lag 🤷‍♂️

[flat brook]

Frame gen is fine as long as your base frame rate is high enough, below 60FPS base you start to notice some serious input delay and ridiculous frame times

[tender patrol]

Mby you are using FG+reflex and NoFG without reflex. Therefore difference could be not so noticable.

[safe zealot]

idk what that is :/

[tender patrol]

:\

[safe zealot]

reflex?

[tender patrol]

Nvidia reflex

[safe zealot]

i am amd 😛

[tender patrol]

AntiLag2 then

[safe zealot]

oh maybe ur right

idk i just checked my settinga and antilag was off. ill turn it on and see what happens lol.

[tawny thicket]

They don't optimize it at all for that anyway, they just nuke settings to hell and back (sub 720p rendering)

[tawny thicket]

Series S CPU is Nowhere near a 5600 in effective perf, in reality its probably worse than a 3600

[tawny thicket]

Theres like 5 games with AL2 : )

[tender patrol]

You can use it in any game with reflex via optiscaler.

[tawny thicket]

Right... But most people haven't a clue opti exists

[coarse linden]

Most people would not need it if devs got their head out of their asses and support both camps

[tawny thicket]

Ehh, AMD should too, Nvidia forces reflex with FG, while AMD doesn't
And FG is the main reason reflex is in so many games

[safe zealot]

yeah i turned on anti lag in adrelaine but i didnt notice any difference in S2

[plucky quail]

Yea but you still dont want to use FG for Antilag2 right. Look at the many games that have Reflex but no option to only use that.
Besides they already implement FG with Antilag

[plucky quail]

wrong one...

[safe zealot]

?

[plucky quail]

The one you need is antilag 2

[tawny thicket]

Driver AL is no where near as good as AL2

[safe zealot]

i dont see anything in adrenaline that says anti lag 2

[plucky quail]

Yea needs to be ingame

[tawny thicket]

Because its not meant to be there

[safe zealot]

oh

[tawny thicket]

If devs make FG the only way to use AL2 that's on them, but not forcing it is just asking for a very short game support list

[plucky quail]

I mean AMD is already doing it with their FG. ITs just the devs that dont implement it. And the list aint growing

Maybe that will change in the coming months/ years.

[past escarp]

droping 8gb = droping 5060/60 Ti

[past escarp]

not when upscale is used to make game at least playable

[tawny thicket]

Dropping "support" for 8GB is pointless anyway

IMO there's no reason low end computers should hold back high end ones in any game,

[past escarp]

yeah, its just making system requirements higher for the sake of what? not making optimisation any better?

[tawny thicket]

There's a reason we have settings and scalability

[tawny thicket]

Not like the game works on amd 8GB cards yo begin with but yeah

[civic hull]

I mean, not really, because they have a 5090, its the most powerful gpu

But its to get more information, idk. Maybe smth bottlenecking, maybe smth else

[late ferry]

bauderbaumeister has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky quail]

NICE 50dolars

[heavy grove]

If you use a money sign with some numbers you're going to get wolf'd. Has to do with gift card scams with bots that were once frequent.

[plucky quail]

Anyway short.
Make it barely work on 1080P we still have support on paper of 6gb gpus. They bought Nvidia for the Nvidia features. The rest space can be made with DLSS.
They can also add Vram swap setting but...
I have no fate in those devs to do something smart anytime soon. Easiest way to fix it would be dropping 6 and 8GB and Series S.
Now Economy and the other stuff is something else.
Thats just my radical way to make it work force it. Everyone still needs a nasa pc to have it ok.

[coarse linden]

Hah like microsoft would let them drop series s

[plucky quail]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-microsoft-space-force-john-malcovich-gif-8108491733214370090

[plucky quail]

ik thats the economy stuff

[coarse linden]

Contract is contract

Breaking it gets real expensive real fast

Easiest way of fixing it would have been not using unreal

Or you know... re write good part of the engine so it doesnt commit sudoku everytime there is 4 npcs on the screen

[plucky quail]

No hope in those devs.

[coarse linden]

Because they were sold engine that suppose to be solution to every problem without too much effort

Then they realize it requires very much effort to make it do what they really want to

And that point its too late to back down

[plucky quail]

Bad management. From the beginning. Who thinks also to switch to another engine when the game is no where near complete with much to go. But that was never their strongpoint 🤷🏼

[coarse linden]

UE4 to UE5 is not as abysmal job as one might think. Evident that they chose to do it tells there wasnt much forking going on making it "easy" enough

But using early builds of half arsed engine is bad decision

If you ask me nobody should seriously dev games until UE 5.8 or 5.10

[plucky quail]

Fact is it should be ez but they didnt. Pushing the date back and releasing a game that is not even half done

Either way it took them time they could have not invested in that change

[tawny thicket]

Still don't get how dropping 8gb would help anything

[plucky quail]

You wonder by how bad this game is.

[tawny thicket]

There's a reason we have scalability and settings

[coarse linden]

I mean game was borderline screwed moment it started using unreal in the first place

[plucky quail]

I dont even think they can do that.

there is a way to do it but it should be done already by now to fix it. Tho they dont like many other things they dont

[coarse linden]

But i do find enjoyment in this game except when straight up execution squad spawns front of me without change to blindfold myself

Because tiny branch blocked enough of my view

[plucky quail]

And the FPS with it just tanks

[coarse linden]

Well not anymore for me since just brute forcing it

9800X3D ftw lol

[plucky quail]

Nasa PC for this game is the only way

[coarse linden]

Dont need nasa pc

[tawny thicket]

Yes they absolutely can, they just don't care

[plucky quail]

then why do anything if they dont care

[tawny thicket]

UE has tons of settings for textures and streaming, they could do both if they wanted, in fact anyone knowladgable enough could do so

[plucky quail]

so they have no idea how to do it

[tawny thicket]

They don't care and or don't have time, either way dropping 8GB cards and XS wont help anything

[coarse linden]

Game does run surprisingly fine on 8gb cards tbh

Hell seen it running fine with 6gb card on idiot friends pc

Absolute moron got 9950X3D and RTX 3050 lmao

Dont ask i dont get it either

[plucky quail]

Like it aint that the whole industry is hold back by the XS and 8gb gpus cuz AMD did decade nothing sucking nvidia ass (still doing) and nvidia cleans his own AI ass. even 6gb works cuz the try that hard and with it the performance goes. Support goes to a certain point. Boso if you still rock a stupid gpu. Use DLSS or FSR if you need that extra Vram. Any gpu past 2020 can do Upscaling. AMD 6000 would suffer most since they only ever gonna have FSR3 but i mean they are getting dropped by thier own company. Dumb it would be to buy a 5060 and dont use DLSS.
I dont see it that the CPU of you and me need to do overwork. The same people with a 9060XT and 5060 rock a damn 5500 or 3600 or 5600. It would help those CPUs. Even if its a lil.

[plucky quail]

Biggest Comp gamer 600FPS on Fortnite or sum

[coarse linden]

I think he did it just to trigger me lol

[plucky quail]

Good job of him unlike GSC

[tawny thicket]

I also doubt texture streaming and LOD swapping would actually matter to CPU perf in the grand scheme of things

[oak whale]

Well, I have i7-13620H and RTX 4060 Laptop and with that, I can run Stalker 2 on epic without any much issues aside of lags when it loads

[plucky quail]

They do alot actually. How much its doing that in stutter 2.
They could go around it with Direct storage but i dont think they have the talent to do that.

[tawny thicket]

720p rendering plus FG cope ; )

[oak whale]

Excuse you, I don't have DLSS Performance

But I noticed that it does not eat that lot of VRAM for 1080p

[tawny thicket]

720 = DLSS Q at 1080o

[past escarp]

well they do

[oak whale]

It is barely noticable in the distance

[past escarp]

as far as i heard - nanites that s2 uses render everything in its full quality, and then based on distance to player change quality of objects

[oak whale]

FG is sometimes making a mess though

[past escarp]

i dont think its about talent

[tawny thicket]

That's not related to textures

Or VRAM really

[oak whale]

I mean either way, I can play it with DLAA and with stable frames

[tawny thicket]

Lovely 30 to 60 FG

[plucky quail]

thats about the polygons tho. Texture swap happens tho still

[oak whale]

Around 65FPS

[past escarp]

yes, cause i was talking abt cpu utilisation

[tawny thicket]

After FG So no difference

[oak whale]

Who cares, it is frame boost nonetheless

[past escarp]

lovely input lag like voyager or smth like that

[plucky quail]

Latency and looks worst

[oak whale]

Not really
Like, I can agree with latency though

[tawny thicket]

Nah, 30 to 60 FG looks really good with DL-FG or XeFG

[oak whale]

Yeah, can't complain.

[plucky quail]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-pointing-pointing-finger-car-wheel-gif-2572264087411888860

[oak whale]

And we are talking about 70-80FPS with DLSS Q and FG on with RTX 4060 Laptop

[tawny thicket]

So 35fps latency, 80fps~ smoothness

[oak whale]

Again, pretty good performance

[tawny thicket]

All FG artifacts are basically invisible at that point on Xe and DL-FG

[tawny thicket]

I wouldn't call that good

Should be 60 at least on DLSS Q

[oak whale]

It is RTX 4060 Laptop, come on

[plucky quail]

yea yea that 30FPS will not show to the eye if its up to 60fps...
Like even Yt compression 1080P shows in motion. Maybe my Eyes are just 10K and 1000FPS with the newest Nvidia neuralink chip

[oak whale]

I just love that the recommended specs are for 1440p and not for 1080p High. And 32GB RAM is well, you know.

[tawny thicket]

Huh..
You should try XeFG 30 to 60 sometime..

[plucky quail]

Dont tell me that Intel has better FG than Nvidia

[tawny thicket]

They don't, but 30 to 60 does LOOK fine

It doesn't feel right however

[plucky quail]

Wait did you do that before or after you got your 144 hz monitor?

[tawny thicket]

before. and i was satisfied with its visual quality

despite that it just felt very very wrong

[past escarp]

not on screenshot

[tawny thicket]

even then itll be okay ish--

[past escarp]

yeah you will not see input lag in screenshot

[tawny thicket]

i meant it will LOOK fine
LOOK fine does NOT mean latency will be fine 🤦‍♂️

[past escarp]

still does not affect screenshot

[tawny thicket]

i never EVER said latency was fine

[past escarp]

why do you even care abt latency on screenshot?

[tawny thicket]

okay ive no idea what the hell your even saying anymore

[past escarp]

screenshot, like a photo of ur screen

[tawny thicket]

just feels like bait at this point
https://tenor.com/view/jebaited-low-quality-bait-wavy-man-gif-26402013

[past escarp]

why would you care abt latency in photo or anything like that?

[tawny thicket]

did i ever say it matters to screenshots ?
by its nature it only matters if you are actually gonna play the damn thing

[past escarp]

no, but i was talking abt screenshots

[tawny thicket]

im tired

[past escarp]

no

[azure ore]

Whats a good value for gamma

[oak whale]

That is individual? Just so can you balance what you see and you don't to see easily?

[plucky quail]

I set brightness at 60% mostly and leave all on default

[past escarp]

everything to max, cause you paid for ur pc parts and you must utilize it to fullest extent

[hollow kettle]

I cannot believe we are already about to be at stalker 2 one year anniversary

I think November 20th

[tawny thicket]

yes : )

[coarse linden]

Maybe?

[tawny thicket]

possibly

[past escarp]

Nuh uh

[tawny thicket]

yuh uh

[past escarp]

nuh uh, ur not tired my friend

[tawny thicket]

yuh uh i am

[plucky quail]

I AM COOL 😎

[past escarp]

Nuh uh ur hot

[past escarp]

so fellas - galaxy s24 for 600$, s25 for 750$, s25fe for 700, nothing phone 3 for 750$ or pixel 9 pro xl for 650$

[pastel summit]

eh, we doing phone talk now? nice

S25 is compact and rather safe option...green line issues aside.

NP3 has decent camera, subjective design but SoC can get hot in games. Try checking ZZZ gameplay on the NP3

S25FE not really worth it unless you want bigger screen compared to S25, S24 double not worth it too

also Pixel 9 Pro XL is a mess, I personally cannot recommend for various reasons

yep NP3 is pretty hot. Wuthering Waves heat it up like crazy
https://youtu.be/tC3o7bB28Oo

If you want a good all-rounder I'd suggest OnePlus 13, had the 12 before and it was pretty good

15 not really worth it to me since camera nerfs, and it's more of a gaming focused phone...though that might just work out for the average ZZZ player.

[past escarp]

I am playing zzz, but only on pc since i enjoy it more on big screen. Not really care abt performance in game, since i dont play much

Alao what problems does pixel9 proxl has?

[pastel summit]

well, bad chip in comparison to all the other brands and most importantly, mandatory battery capacity degradation.

basically once you pass 200 charging cycles Google start artificially limiting your capacity.

[late ferry]

kazzz7420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pastel summit]

Wolf correction needed 💢 💢

but yeah, really bulls* stuff since 200 cycle is nothing to a good battery.

[past escarp]

And how much does it lower its capacity?

[pastel summit]

nothing concrete yet regarding this.

been doing some lookup and it seems that the 9 Pro XL doesn't have this feature yet, just the 9a and every 10 model

though given this is Google, I have no doubt that they will add this in soon and then claim this is for the battery health

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-umamusume-uma-musume-umamusume-pretty-derby-this-fucking-peaks-gif-7258109507532745749

[spare coral]

😭 💢

[pastel summit]

man, Google sucks these days

how far have they fallen since the early Pixel days, I'll much rather take my LG screen controversy over this

[pure ibex]

Btw guys

9070xts are now available for msrp again

Newegg has 2 or 3 skus at 600 dollars

[hazy arch]

Cha-Rew! LG G3 was peak phone!

[tawny thicket]

US citizens happy : )

[pure ibex]

Total American victory

[tawny thicket]

while us european peasants get it more expensive cuz taxes : (

[pastel summit]

that was my favourite for a while. grew up with so many LG phones, still has a G6 and V60 to this day.

rip LG 🥲

[plucky quail]

Wut we get since summer MSRP prices

[tawny thicket]

but still tax on top : I

[plucky quail]

pfff just saying 80€ more than just basic 600€ it shows in USA. But they also need to pay tax when they buy. Just the listing doesnt include the tax

[pastel summit]

likely gonna be a pass for me, path tracing performance is pretty much 3080

yes I'm playing CP2077 with path tracing right now and you will not convince me otherwise 🤣

[pure ibex]

It beat my 3090 in every way so

I’m very happy

[pastel summit]

yeah, raster performance definitely. and less power consumption/heat too I reckon

I hope AMD will get their PT performance right someday...although that's likely not happening anytime soon.

[coarse linden]

If their note showcase is to believe they are focusing on raytracing and AI hard next few generations

And in so people complaining about RT magically disappear

Just like people complaining about DLSS did after AMD shat out fsr2

[plucky quail]

If i remember correctly 9070XT should be faster in PT.
But you also loose RT related stuff like RR so its bonus and loss.

[plucky quail]

Sony also wants to bet huge on AI and RT for the next gen so next best thing for amd is going to be that.

[hazy arch]

Yeah, they did great.

[tawny thicket]

PT is using Nvidias SDK
god knows how much BS they are doing in it to make Nvidia/RTX look good
for the record in something like cyberpunk enabling RT shadows barely costs anything on my 9060 XT
while i go to play indie TGC and enabling that same effect (RT shadows) nukes me from 70fps+ to 20 and it looks the exact same as in cyberprank

RT sun and local shadows : 67fps -9%~
raster only: 73

in cyberprank

[coarse linden]

And it would use AMD SDK if AMD got its head out of its ass for once

[tawny thicket]

RTGI (+all other effects) medium: 47
RTGI phsyco: 37fps

[tawny thicket]

RDNA 2 and 3 wouldnt be able to really do PT regardless i dont think (would still do better probably on AMD SDK) RDNA 4 is the first arch with decent RT (and yeah, AMD is shortsighted)
so makes sense why they never made it, but they really really should make one atp

[coarse linden]

Nvidia did their stuff leveraging dedicated hardware that AMD didnt have so ofcourse it runs like ass

At this point its pointless for AMD to even start to make their own bs since they both work with microsoft on DXR

[tawny thicket]

im also convinced cyberprank is broken : D
RTGI with or without RT shadows and reflections runs the exact same (44 VS 45fps lol)

[coarse linden]

In a way shadows are somewhat redundant if you have GI on

Yet doesnt work properly without them

So guys Steam machines are back

with 8GB vram AMD cards. Go nuts

[tawny thicket]

without RT there are basically no soft shadows - https://imgsli.com/NDI4Mzk3

[coarse linden]

Also i think we finally get SteamOS 3 on desktop with this launch

Obviously Half life 3 also confirmed by this

[tawny thicket]

hey at least windowes wont eat 2gb of that : D

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmKrKTwtukE
For get all for a moment.
Its time for the gabe cube

[coarse linden]

that controller really looks like original xbox fat controller

god that was abysmal

[plucky quail]

I want to know support time 🙂

[tawny thicket]

peak cinema

[plucky quail]

Half life 1/2...3?

[tawny thicket]

No CS3 either right ?
Or left4 dead 3

[past escarp]

i dont believe YOU! VALVE WOULD NEVER DO THIS

[tender patrol]

Three devices, RDNA3 and FSR3

[safe zealot]

I wouldn’t complain about getting a l4d 3

[tender patrol]

Now they need to announce l4d 3, Portal 3, HL 3

[past escarp]

Nobody would complain. So they will make dota 3, cs3, l4d3, portal3 hl3

[pastel summit]

Orange Box 2 gonna very interesting

[past escarp]

Also fellas - look what a beautiful frame ive got

[plucky quail]

Kinda want all of steam hardware. VR and controller are the most important for me. The box needs to be seen but hella clean that thing

[uneven portal]

just dont, we dont need cs3

[late ferry]

patnor has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[past escarp]

yes we do! valve will add some new kind of abomination of subtick instead of 128 tickrate, add a tons of skins, bugs and maaaaaybe they will think abt making anti cheat

[late ferry]

vladmihail has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[past escarp]

you cant argue with me wohehehe

[uneven portal]

CS3 when CS2 is cra p sounds unnecessary

[past escarp]

nah sounds good to me. you have crap2 why not make crap3 and add more skins

[uneven portal]

The hand models are deformed, even the animations don't work, the movement is dead, the optimization jumps between maps, it's awful

[coarse linden]

Because they dont have inhouse anticheat already?

[past escarp]

remember michael jackson peek?

[uneven portal]

I'm amazed that we've been like this for two years.

All the games I like are either unfinished or cancelled 😭

[past escarp]

nah because you dont deserve it, you smelly peasant! just buy 100 of their new piss&poo colletcion cases and keys to get 100th skin for awp for 5$

[coarse linden]

Tbh worst thing you can do to anticheat is to slap it on free to play game

[past escarp]

well they made things worse then before cs2, so apparantly they found even worse things to do

[coarse linden]

They do have that VACNet shenanigans going on

[past escarp]

if i remember things right - there was like absolutely no anti-cheat for like 6 months

[past escarp]

still it sucks

[coarse linden]

You can apply that to any and all anti cheats existing lmao

[past escarp]

a few weeks ago had a game agains full stack of cheaters on prime matchmaking

[coarse linden]

Like i said worst thing you can do to anti cheat is to slap it on f2p

[past escarp]

i guess vac sucks the most, cause it does like absolutely nothing

[coarse linden]

VAC and VACNet is different things

One is legacy heuristic way of detection and other is deep learning and AI

In theory it could surpass others

[past escarp]

if you rename dogs crap and call it like ai-meat - it will not stop being poop

[coarse linden]

I mean by all means find a solution

[uneven portal]

You simply make it available to people with Prime

[past escarp]

why would it matter if valve doesnt do anything with cs2? its like a dead game that keeps on living only because of two things: legacy of cs:go and other games suck even more

[late ferry]

plebnation has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse linden]

Sigh.... I dont care what they do with cs. Im talking about anti cheats

[past escarp]

well just have a decently-working anti-cheat

[coarse linden]

Make it

[past escarp]

give me money

[coarse linden]

Nah you make it and sell it

[past escarp]

tbh their behavior index or whatever its called does better work in keeping cheaters away from normal players then anti-cheat

[past escarp]

nah you pay me and maybe ill do that

[late ferry]

plebnation has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse linden]

My god this fcking bot lol

[past escarp]

thats just gabe newell personally hates you

[coarse linden]

I dont play competitive multiplayers so doesnt affect me nor am i the one claiming that anti cheats suck

[past escarp]

im there only to get my free case and sell it

[coarse linden]

Traditional anti cheats could be more effective if they werent handicapped by things that people view as violation of privacy

So people scream and yell that anti cheat cant do this or that and complain when anti cheat cant do its work properly lmao

[past escarp]

well it seems like nobody cares nowadays abt this

[hollow kettle]

some ppl are very adamant about helldivers 2 destroying components. They say the anti cheat is more like a malicious virus lol it is kernal level. But idk enough about any of that to say one way or another. Just my own experiences to go off, they have been relatively good

[past escarp]

well ive heard that valorant had problem on its beta/release - it just turned off fans of some gpus and burned them

[coarse linden]

Vulnerable driver used to inject cheats so it disabled it

[plush quail]

Hello

[hollow kettle]

I just dont see it being possible software destroys hardware, unless there was some user error or prior hardware issues that went unnoticed

[past escarp]

yeah lets fry the gpu!

[uneven portal]

What happens when it crashes when you start it?

[plush quail]

Anyone else getting an UE error which doesn't let the game to load in?

[coarse linden]

Hey if they are stupid enough to use old unmaintained software to control it they kinda deserve it

[plush quail]

It loads into the shader cache loading and immediately gets a CTD

[hollow kettle]

I had that happen in Reblivion

I just did not play for a couple weeks

[plush quail]

Damn

[uneven portal]

Verify integrity first

[plush quail]

I tried many times

[coarse linden]

shader building hits the pc like prime95 so unstable system?

[uneven portal]

I assume the drivers are up to date.

[plush quail]

Yeah, I updated drivers, BIOS...

I tried every fix in the Internet though nothing works

[uneven portal]

you clear the shader cache? %LOCALAPPDATA%\Stalker2

[plush quail]

I even removed the whole folder

[uneven portal]

dow

Then you must have reinstalled the entire game and everything, right

[past escarp]

remove system32 - maybe it will help

[plush quail]

That's what there's left for me

[past escarp]

yeah seems so

[plush quail]

I know it has to do with Unreal Engine

So no solutions?

[past escarp]

mayeb system reinstall. personally i have no ideas and you said that you already tried everything

[plush quail]

Yeh, tried absolutely everything... Nothing works

[past escarp]

find grigorovich and make him make the game work for you

[plush quail]

Who is that?

[past escarp]

grigorovich sergey konstantinovych - founder of gsc

gsc(k)

[plush quail]

Oh right lol

[plucky quail]

GUYS RESTONE IS OUT

@tawny thicket @pure ibex @hollow kettle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p88YsQC_y8s

[tawny thicket]

in the worst possible game they could have launched it with

[plucky quail]

Tho also no new game that could have better implemented. What you gonna let CD red do it?
But also not the best game to start with

[tawny thicket]

no
its just that the performance drop from enabling RT in that game is simlar to path tracing cost
and its just RT REFLECTIONS

[plucky quail]

Wut

[tawny thicket]

like from 140~ to 30

[plucky quail]

cant be blud

[tawny thicket]

(50 if you have VRS on which you cant do with any upscaling method)

[coarse linden]

Honestly who the f uses raytracing in competitive games

[plucky quail]

Oh no gonna be the story game.

[coarse linden]

they still bother with that half arsed job?

[plush quail]

Guys, how do I manually remove mod files?

[plucky quail]

Yup 👍

[tawny thicket]

you uhh - delete them : )

[hollow kettle]

https://youtu.be/US9qzWWtWeY?si=VOE8ThBsHYhsiENp

Ray regeneration coming to bo7 tomorrow supposedly

Redstone is here?

Now I am told it was a mistake and supposed to be ML frame gen, not ray regeneration

Either way, exciting

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p88YsQC_y8s

[plucky quail]

Blud AMD is saying that and its not down after 3h.

[coarse linden]

Cant wait to be disappointed

But actually excited to see how well that ray regeneration works out. And how pain it will be to make it run on nvidia

[hollow kettle]

The outer worlds 2 has some really neat weapons. Super cool how much you can mod them to chane up how they play

[late ferry]

notvrairhead has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[safe zealot]

I want to play TOW2 but I will wait for a sale 😉 💵

[tawny thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx2q4xmEY64

redstone RR: looks fine ish - but RT itself is comically heavy so who the hell would wanna use it

[tropic bobcat]

Adrenaline 25.11.1 is trash.

This is done of the worst drivers I’ve ever seen from AMD. I’m not sure what their team has been doing but someone needs fired from the Radeon team.

[tender patrol]

What happened?

[tropic bobcat]

Well for starters they’ve lied about CPU metrics.

“We fixed it”

The HELL you did. It’s nice to see they finally acknowledged this problem after a decade.

The first thing it did when installing it lock up my entire PC

[pastel summit]

ouch, that surely sucks. I guess the memes about AMD always missing the opportunity is really true