pc-specs

[nimble nexus]

No, just no self control.

[coarse linden]

and too much money

[nimble nexus]

I don't think, it is as easy as that.

[coarse linden]

Poor plebs dont buy games

[azure ore]

How can i fix the ghosting in stalker 2

Im using dlss quality

[hazy arch]

I feel like it baked into all the upscale technologies.

[azure ore]

Yeah

[hazy arch]

I don't remember if it goes away if you use none of them, but the game looks horrible without the upscale technology.

[azure ore]

It looka like the sharpness filter got cranked to 1000 xd

[hazy arch]

All the edges is grainy.

[azure ore]

I notice it more during cutscenes

[hazy arch]

At this point even low end fxaa will do on it's own.

[coarse linden]

Worse. Its baked in post processing

[plucky quail]

That game was also struggling to run on GPUs it also has bad TAA like all other UE5 games. Those devs cant be good if even TAA looks that horrendous. It even didnt use Lumen.

[uneven portal]

That's not solely the fault of Unreal Engine. Honestly, if Unreal didn't exist, I'm sure the same thing would happen in the industry because it's more about a loss in development quality than the sole fault of an engine.

[azure ore]

Was the bug with the rails fixed the one where they appear darker than they should be

[tawny thicket]

i think the UE 4 version looks better overall (im not a fan of the game tho so yk)
but what happened to all the smoke effects and particles ?

[hazy arch]

I don't remember this.

[plucky quail]

I don’t think so. Yea the company’s want always to be lazy but you need some one that enables that behavior.
UE5 I the enabler of tha behavior.

[uneven portal]

In the past, studios would even create their own versions of game engines if they didn’t have one, in order to tailor it to the specific needs of their games.

[tawny thicket]

if it wasnt UE then it would be some other engine (unity mayhaps)

[uneven portal]

Examples include Kingdom Come: Deliverance with its customized CryEngine, Star Wars: Battlefront with a heavily modified Frostbite engine, and Far Cry Primal with the Dunia Engine, derived from CryEngine. Rarely did a game use a graphics engine without adapting it unlike today, where almost every game seems to run on an unmodified Unreal Engine.

Honestly, it’s not Unreal’s fault, it’s the industry, as I see it. If you blame Unreal, you’re going to make the same mistake again in the future.

[plucky quail]

That’s true still they are enabling it.

[tawny thicket]

use the transformer model at native (DLAA)
thats the best you can do
or FSR 3.1 if you are feeling extra sadistic (FSR doesnt ghost in this game : D)

[plucky quail]

I mean for that you could just basically make your own engine if you edit that much. Where you would be where all the engines come from.

That’s not why they go to UE5 tho

To make a new engine out of it

[azure ore]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3514103572

[uneven portal]

It is cheaper to edit an existing engine because your new developers do not have to adapt to something different.

[tawny thicket]

spatial AA cant handle deferred rendering, it might be better, but not that much

[plucky quail]

I say also UE5 that is heavy edited would run better but that wouldn’t make sense to jump to UE5

[uneven portal]

Editing a graphics engine and adding new tools does not change the fundamentals of the engine, so new developers can get started.

[tawny thicket]

UE 5 given proper care and effort into optimization would run a ton better

[uneven portal]

Literally, on paper, Unreal 5 may perform better than Unreal 4 under the same conditions

[azure ore]

Dosnt fsr introduce more imput lag?

[tawny thicket]

the FG part ? yes, for sure
but the upscaling part doesnt

[hazy arch]

Lads, i don't care what does what... Before this upscale technology nonsense, I could run a game without AA and didn't look like $h!t.

[plucky quail]

It would still take time and cost you money to give people money to edit the engine and also give money to UE5 too. It’s just financially make sense.

[late ferry]

vladmihail has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky quail]

You dont pay normal devs you would need more specialized people

[uneven portal]

the poor performance of the games is not the fault of the engine, but rather of the studios. Based on that premise, I prefer to criticise the companies that engage in *** development practices rather than the engine, which is still a fairly customisable tool.

[plucky quail]

Yea it’s just code in the end still makes the features in that engine bad. How many time we get Nanite in games that run like potato

If you already pay unreal money to use the engine then you ain’t gonna pay more to strip them away

[uneven portal]

Well, Nanite works fine if they focused on also creating their own LODs. What happens in Unreal Engine is that they just let the tool work by itself and don’t bother checking if it’s doing its job properly, they don’t even test THEY use us.

[plucky quail]

It’s just a engine made for everyone but doesn’t fit anyone

[plucky quail]

I need to see prove of that. Even unreal the maker of the feature is saying it’s takes more processing power over normal lod

[uneven portal]

That’s the same thing that happened on the plane I was on, where a lady was complaining that she didn’t fit in the seat. Maybe the seat isn’t the problem

[hazy arch]

Oh also, on a side note, I am currently testing some lines added to a file. I saw a change in RAM and VRAM usage and I am waiting for a crash(memory leak). If the crash doesn't happen in the next month or so... Potential memory leak fix.

[tawny thicket]

nanites documentation says that you have to feed nanite what regular LOD methods would call "LOD 0"
but instead devs just feed it artist assets which have WAY too many polygons/triangle etc and so you end up with garabage

[uneven portal]

I swear, I wonder if a game made with Unreal will come out that doesn’t overuse Nanite or Lumen.

[tawny thicket]

and nanite isnt built to handle that

[tawny thicket]

there already is one, satisfactory:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/526870/Satisfactory/

[plucky quail]

What. What does it do good if you try to defend the multimillion company that them self say that nanite pulls Computational power. It’s a feature you pay for. You are not gonna spend extra to not use it.

[uneven portal]

What’s clear to me is that no matter what happens, we’re screwed.

I’ll also tell you, you’re not paying for the technology, you’re paying for the use of the engine.

[azure ore]

So whats the differance between using dlss and fsr

[uneven portal]

Niagara, Datasmith, Voxel Plugin, etc… not every company uses all the crap that comes with the engines.

[tawny thicket]

you have the optin to use lumen (probably the shittiest implementation ive ever seen though lol) but its 1000% optional, game looks really good even without it
and nanites are only used on cliffs and rocks, and unlike other games the devs put in the effort to not just use artist assets for nanite, (they use LOD 0 instead)

[tawny thicket]

they do the same thing
but DLSS (4) is a ton better than FSR 3.1

[plucky quail]

Yea and it’s the greedy company’s that want to pay even less people. And Unreal that enables the shenanigans with a tool that uses less personal and redirects cost to us the people that need to pay extra for a gpu/cpu cuz they didn’t want to put bit of time and money in making a better game/engine

[uneven portal]

It’s the companies’ fault, not Unreal’s. That’s how I see it. If you blame Unreal, nothing will change; there will always be another engine they can take advantage of in the same way.

[azure ore]

Do you mean dlaa

[tawny thicket]

DLAA is just DLSS being fed native res
no real distinction

[plucky quail]

Idk if you guys know but UE5 isn’t even a gaming engine. It’s also used and heavily supported for studios like film, marketing.
If you watch their features they build in you see how much of the idea and priority of it come from the dual use of the engine. For the films that run on “their” engine

[plucky quail]

So if I blame UE5 that they put not even a good AA option for devs out so they don’t need it to implement them self it’s not UE5 blame ?

[uneven portal]

Look, first of all, it’s the companies that use Unreal. The problem comes from before that—that’s what I mean. No matter what happens, we’ll always be screwed if companies keep operating this way.

If a company chooses an engine that doesn’t fit their project in the first place, what sense does it make to blame Unreal? We don’t even know what Unreal would look like in a development that actually cares about the consumer and quality.

[plucky quail]

Yea but UE5 has the key to make it better maybe not fully fix it but least make it better.
They have still to give devs alternatives besides nanite and lumen that could improve the quality and performance of games. But they don’t do it. It’s not a problem that they use all one engine it’s basically code but all that takes time and money what you will not invest if you already pay for Unreal.

So we need to press UE5 to make changes for devs to do make their life’s easier in optimization.

[plucky quail]

Money. It’s harder to influence 10-20 companies vs just 1 that can have the same outcome.

[uneven portal]

It's curious that they were able to do it before, but now they can't, huh?

We can put pressure on Unreal, but the problem will not go away

It will happen again and again because we always go for the short-term, easiest solution.

[plucky quail]

That’s not really true else bf6 would run on UE5.
They would put bit more effort if the engine had that feature for optimization. It shouldn’t be the devs job to scrap 50% of UE5 invest after in a feature for optimization. We are not even done yet cuz we still need to use the new tool to build it in the game.

Vs

Scrap 45% and start with implementing the tool in to the game. Done.

[uneven portal]

the most efficient approach would be to wait until the tool is fully optimised and then gradually integrate it into the game, ensuring that previous work is not lost and performance is not compromised. (like in stalker 2)

[nimble nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11XZL0VinHY - for those that need help optimising B4, without using gimmicks like FG.

[tawny thicket]

theres also ini tweaks that can help BL4 ive heard
like ive heard enabling Hardware Lumen improves performance in BL4 (on RDNA 4 and probably ADA)

[nimble nexus]

Most likely, but it's nice to have something that doesn't require messing around with an ini file.

[tawny thicket]

Its odd tho
HW lumen runs worse than SW lumen in every other game I've seen it in

[plucky quail]

maybe it doesnt run on every light? Does it still look same?

[tawny thicket]

Couple that with the fact that HW lumen is significantly better than SW in shading, overall quality (allowing you to lower lumens quality while keeping good visual quality)

[tawny thicket]

Haven't tried it myself
But the person who told me this said that he couldn't spot a difference visually

(The person in question is on RDNA 4)

[plucky quail]

So SW is really honking that much if its PT every shit

[tawny thicket]

Lumen is dumb for a.fast paced shooter like BL 4

Just allow us to select backed or lumen plz

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trn4p04w5nI

Crazy how we could get on all GPUs

[tawny thicket]

(Requirement: 23.9.1 or older driver, lol)

[tawny thicket]

Im very impressed by that unfinished int8 model tho BTW

[plucky quail]

I am more impressed that you can get anything out of RDNA2 GPUs

[tawny thicket]

Almost as good as the fp8 model
And Significantly better than XeSS

[tawny thicket]

They support int8 so yeah
Int8 support is the only forward ish looking thing on RDNA 2

[tawny thicket]

And on RDNA 4 XeSS DP4A and FSR 4 int8 almost run the same

FSR 4 AA 62 (FP8)
FSR 3.1 AA 62
XeSS AA 60 (similar performance to the int8 model on my card)
TAA: 65
TSR 60

[tawny thicket]

XeSS is 1.2ms FSR 4 I8 is 1.3ms

[tawny thicket]

Also find it funny how TSR is just as slow as XeSS😂

[plucky quail]

I bet they can lower it even more bit. With a Official Implementation.

[tawny thicket]

Sure.
But i wouldn't expect it to be faster than xess

[plucky quail]

RN its still broken and unfinished but looks promising

[plucky quail]

0.1ms i bet they can do that.

[tawny thicket]

Its not finished but its still much better than XeSS

[tawny thicket]

Thing is, that gap is MUCH bigger on RDNA 2, 3 and RTX

[plucky quail]

You think FG of Redstone will be free for all GPUs?

[tawny thicket]

No
Doubt

[tawny thicket]

Saw someone on RDNA 2 have 7ms on it

[plucky quail]

Xess FG already works good on other GPUs

[tawny thicket]

Might've been RDNA 3 but IDK atp

[plucky quail]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/nvidia-and-intel-announce-jointly-developed-intel-x86-rtx-socs-for-pcs-with-nvidia-graphics-also-custom-nvidia-data-center-x86-processors-nvidia-buys-usd5-billion-in-intel-stock-in-seismic-deal

BTW i also saw my stock go sky high today

[tawny thicket]

You are a Shareholer in intel/nvidia ?

[plucky quail]

hell yea. Most of my money i put in Intel in the last months. Most people said i am crazy but it paid (literally) off
Nvidia already paid off good(anyway).

[tawny thicket]

Good for you i guess : )

[uneven portal]

https://files.fm/f/ge7xyzcd5p

47 fps zalisia gpu 69%, 74ms lat

[plucky quail]

Get that that Nvidia overlay away from me. Get RTSS

Guys i think it over with Intels GPU program

[tawny thicket]

Sell high 👌

[plucky quail]

Man they had some good GPUs and it helped alot with IGPU power. No other GPU comes close to productivity as Intels IGPUs do. Now its just gonna go back to the good old slow IGPUs.

[uneven portal]

I had to reset my PC and lost my MSI After settings. XD

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgrLDqi-IzE

Well no point in going UE5
That 30% pay you can keep in your own Engine

Games really stop using RT. That game also doesnt have it

[past escarp]

seems logical

requires too much power, gives so few in lighting

[nimble nexus]

it actually runs better on AMD too... The seriously closes the gap... Fortnite another example.

[polar mountain]

runs great for me, playing rn, 190-200+ with fsr 4 quality and fg

[tawny thicket]

using your own engine is good if you already have one
but eg: DL2 took a decade to come out, DL TB took 3 years, and the only reason DL 2 took so long to come out was because they had to make a custom engine for it

thats why everyone uses UE
its cheaper and easier than making (and maintaining) a custom engine

[coarse linden]

I mean its the same engine they used for DL 1

With upgrades obviously

[tawny thicket]

Wait what

[coarse linden]

What?

[tawny thicket]

I thought DL2 had a totally different engine

[azure ore]

When the new engine drops wont it break all mods?

[coarse linden]

Most likely

[tawny thicket]

It will

[azure ore]

Ohhh

I look forward to that XD

[reef zenith]

Just how it goes xP
Would you rather your mods continue to work, or have a better engine/patch xD

[azure ore]

Thats some matrix level offer lmao

[reef zenith]

"You take the blue pill and i show you how deep the rabbit hole goes 😉 😏 " xD

[azure ore]

Its possible some mod devs may not update their mods

[reef zenith]

That's on them
People were getting annoyed when Starfield had a patch cause it broke mods 🤷‍♂️

Just how it works xD

[azure ore]

Some mods that i use are a massive deal breaker

[reef zenith]

I mean fair... but as i said, Would you rathe GSC never update/patch Stalker 2 again then? 😜

[azure ore]

Better balistics, faster animations, no mutant armor, no knockdown, reduced stamina drain.

[azure ore]

Thats the catch

[reef zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-i-mean-gif-3535627793955785136

[azure ore]

In a perfect word the devs would implement the fixes done by the mods

[plucky quail]

If you pay only for the engine and make a slop.
Else optimization on UE5 cost too much so why bother 🤷

[nimble nexus]

No, your game doesn't run 190+ fps.

It's smoothing tool, it doesn't do frames.

[tawny thicket]

also is it just me or does that game look super bland ?

[nimble nexus]

It's a no brainer, better engine for sure... And mods can be updated, people just need to be patient until stuff gets done.

[tawny thicket]

like the lighting is just so flat, bland, uninspired

[nimble nexus]

What game is that DL2? No idea what DL2 is

[tawny thicket]

DL the beast
the one that just launched

[reef zenith]

Ptff if only they did 🤣🤣 "nah can you fix the game, patch it, but like not break any of my mods that are super specific.
Oh and if you do I'll just say the game sucks and leave a bad review" 🤣🤣

[coarse linden]

Remember when folk screamed that UE5 only taking 5% if you use epic store so developers would have more money to put in development?

That aged very well

[nimble nexus]

Ohhhhhh that... Dying Light... I never finished the 2nd game, just boring as F.

Also I get sick to death of games that have leveled items, because a big heavy pipe is going to get new skills.... And more to the point, I hate games with wear an tear that dont make sense... I think I could club zombie skulls for a year and a nice heavy pipe would never break, however, something junk made out wood... then yeah.

The game is garbage.

[tawny thicket]

ist that still the case ?
and then 12% if you dont use epic right ?

[coarse linden]

Still is

[tawny thicket]

and only above a certain amount of profits (1million $ i think)

[nimble nexus]

I have little faith that S2 will become the game it should have been... But in general, upgrading the engine is a no brainer.

[coarse linden]

Up to 1m dollarinos you dont pay any royalties

After that 5% applies

[tawny thicket]

IDK about gameplay, i just watched a benchbark video
im shocked anyone is excited for this if it is as bad as you say

[coarse linden]

I think game is fine. Personally didnt like how they fantasized all weapons from the get go

[tawny thicket]

it just looked so unnatural
i would MUCH rather have Lumen than whatever they have there
but maybe thats just me

[coarse linden]

You would rather have lumen? Were you dropped on your head?

[tawny thicket]

at least lumen wouldnt be so flat and shallow

[nimble nexus]

But the problem is, you are then funding a company that is hell bent on ruining the gaming industry and flooding it with micro-transactions and using sinister tactics that try to force you from your money....

The tax of which, is funding the likes China, and what they are doing in Taiwan, supplying Russia with weapons, the Sprately Islands, the removal of human rights for the People of Hong Kong.

I own epic, but then I have to get all the free games I can, to cost as much money to TenCents as possible.

A vile and sinister company, that has no right existing.

[tawny thicket]

and i dont mean i rather have lumen as the only option, i definetely like the fact that they have baked
but i'd like to at least have the option for something better

[coarse linden]

Well got news for you in that front that Epic wants to lumen to be only lighting option on unreal

[nimble nexus]

It just wasn't for me.... Just not my thing...

I hate the Witcher 3 for it's leveled weapons. It's just stupid.

[tawny thicket]

well thats dumb
but it already is so...
(unless you wanna manually bake every single light)

[coarse linden]

And they seem to be hellbent on making implementing 3rd party middleware as difficult as possible lol

Almost as if they are trying to do what google and apple did with their mobile stores lol

[nimble nexus]

It's about control and monopolization. Do you want an arm of Chinese government monopolising the gaming industry?

I sure as hell don't.

[coarse linden]

But but epic fights monopolies!!

[nimble nexus]

40% of Epic is owned by TenCents... That is enough to pull the strings, because if someone with 40% of your company pulls out, that is more than likely bankruptcy. Epic should be boycotted.

[coarse linden]

I mean i like leveled items but witcher 3... never really got into that game nor liked it as much as people that put it on pedestal

[nimble nexus]

Nah, I hated it. I would find some really amazing unique sword that dealt cold damage and other stuff, and after two fights it was useless... Hate it.

No weapons in games should be levelled, Weapons get nastier depending on the skills and upgrades you choose.

[polar mountain]

I said fsr4 quality and fg

[nimble nexus]

Yes, and I repeat the same answer as FG is a gimmick and isn't actually frames, it's just a smoothing tool. And nVidia with their marketing have made mugs of people again, because number go up.

[plucky quail]

HAHA 5% is the biggest joke

[polar mountain]

It looks smoother and just as clear imo

Makes the game even more enjoyable so i see it as a useful tool

[nimble nexus]

That's because it is a smoothing too, to give an illusion, however, it only helps on systems with a frame rate already high enough, otherwise it will still play like laggy garbage.

[polar mountain]

Feels fine, on a 9070xt and 7800x3d pc

Im getting 80-90 native, enable fsr4 quality and fg thats 180-190+

[tawny thicket]

Whats with all this FG slander ?

I see no problems with 36 to 72 fps

Its free performance

[plucky quail]

Its always only really somthing between. If you have 90FPS you aint gonna need FG and if you below 60 you dont want to turn it on.

[tawny thicket]

All those who see the difference between 120 and 144 disagree with you

[real kraken]

I turn that too and got 110-120fps

And I d'ont see any input lag as many says, so I turn FG in every games

[polar mountain]

Yeah, ive got a good monitor and decent mouse, feels completely fine, in fact native without fg feels way worse than upscaling + fg

[coarse linden]

I have friend that long time ago insisted playing Joint Operations on laptop that barely ran it 15fps and that pleb was having a blast while at it

[real kraken]

I play in native + fg

I hate upscaling, the quality is horrible and pixeled especially in Stalker 2

Pixelised*

[tawny thicket]

pixelated* 🤓

allright
time to play cyberprank for real again
at 30fps

only 30 cuz i accepted a challange that i have to play at 30fps for the rest of the week

and i thought what better game to do that with than cyberprank with Path tracing 😎

[nimble nexus]

Would like some pain killers to help you out 😄

[tawny thicket]

its a challange to see wether or not you can get used to 30fps after playing at 60+ for a long time

[real kraken]

Ah lol

Sry

[tawny thicket]

you didnt do anything wrong : D
you just couldnt find the right word

[coarse linden]

Disable freesync

[tawny thicket]

why would i do that ?

[coarse linden]

Or change screen hz to 60 so your eyes dont melt

[nimble nexus]

Yeah, I wouldn't have don that myself. Personally, I want to enjoy life 😄

[tawny thicket]

why would that help btw ?

[nimble nexus]

less tearing I guess

[coarse linden]

Because LFC kicks in and as its not stable when you lock the fps screen will constantly switch hz speed making it flicker ever so slightly. Since you are locked to 30 you might as well disable it and lock the screen to 60hz and avoid its shenanigans

[polar mountain]

in stalker yeah, but im talking about the beast

[tawny thicket]

jeezus
my cars shadows ghost so freaking religously
its actually worse than lumen lol

[polar mountain]

60 feels fine when locked

i can enjoy both 60 and really high fps, got used to macbook 60hz

[tawny thicket]

i thought FSR 4 UQ would hold 30fps but it doesnt

also, funny thing
FSR 3.1 sort of shimmers less than 4 when standing still

okay
i thought they did fix the PT crashes
but they didnt
fuuuu...

[tawny thicket]

@hollow kettle PT does still crash for me
sorry, i lied

OMG
this game looks soo freaking bad
https://files.catbox.moe/1buzgz.mp4

like they cant even make shadows look good

add onto that the fact that the lighting is also SUPER bland

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871737/1418599760084074637/2025-09-19_16-08-34.mp4?ex=68ceb57b&is=68cd63fb&hm=ecd53db984e1a70c0e836fb87043a39b4c6935678c3912838fcde975ac62b996&
for those having trouble playing that dumb catbox (and for mods if they wanna embed it)

[coarse linden]

Seems just fine

[tawny thicket]

you dont see how the shadow isnt cast properly ?
https://imgur.com/a/Q8cjbWi

and look at those textures
this in a 2025 game AT MAX SETTINGS 4K ??? lol

[plucky quail]

Lol had the same idea just with playing with fsr4 and amds mfg

[tawny thicket]

AMDs MFG ?
please tell me you are talking about FSR FG + AFMF cuz if you are not im gonna jump out of a window

[polar mountain]

same engine as dying light 2

id say the lighting and reflections are nicely done

[coarse linden]

Supposedly its got RT shadows

[tawny thicket]

well, it doesnt
at least not yet

[polar mountain]

theres no rt at all yet

[coarse linden]

Eh not worth the download yet then

[polar mountain]

game is good tho

[coarse linden]

DL2 looked like different game with RT so id expect that one will too

Hopefully they upped raycount too since that glowbug effect is kinda annoying

[ionic remnant]

Hello AMD fanboiz

How you been

Did someone check out the new setting to make borderlands 4 work better ? Something like setting shader cache to 100GB

[plucky quail]

Yea talking about that. Doing most stupid thing and in theory like Nvidia boys using all the features and 100% of the gpu

Also I think the latest driver fixed pt memory leak

[tawny thicket]

it did
but i still crash : (

[nimble nexus]

What's wrong with the top pic? Both hands and arms have shadows, and just because the angle of the light or whatever the head is creating a shadow where the shadow of the hand would be.

I just don't see the issue with the top image.

[tawny thicket]

that the shadow isnt being cast for some reason somwhere it should be ?

the light is behind the character
so there is no reason why the door way should stop the shadow casting
nor is there a reason why after the door everything is brighter
it just doesnt look right

[plucky quail]

Wait did you update cybertrunk

[tawny thicket]

no.

[plucky quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524231625039413249/1418629758090219530/IMG_0900.png?ex=68ced16b&is=68cd7feb&hm=163e142498cb1e8c59a7377546c352a5f627b58083e4995fb28d01a7733fa819&

Those are the vids i get with 4080 and 9800X3D on DLSS btw. What a game

Meta wants me to see pain

[tawny thicket]

i saw DLSS 4 was kinda broken in BL4
but that is just insane there lol

subnautica TAA level bad

[plucky quail]

Stalker was also broken 3 was better but much more blurry

[tawny thicket]

someone posted this chart btw
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871735/1418606805671743659/image.png?ex=68cebc0a&is=68cd6a8a&hm=30f66925751c7c4f2e9ed046fd0b506cd4b4feb2d5d11d20b081136c9dc106de&

[tropic bobcat]

What game is this?

[tropic bobcat]

Ah, Dying Light: The Beast

The visuals make a lot of sense then, I’m not going to knock off points for that this time.

[plucky quail]

that just looks fine

ALso the texture is good i think its just motion blur or chromatic shi. If you watch the vid the texture looks good

[tawny thicket]

okay well
no one agrees on this server

[late ferry]

chris_98_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tropic bobcat]

I mean, theres def improving on visuals compared to DL2

but this game was also built off of DL2, it was supposed to be a DLC, so this was expected.

https://i.imgur.com/ioWtJgo.png

this is still wild to see on an RDNA3 card lmao

[spare coral]

Looks just fine
The textures arent the best
Like, the game doesnt look like a big upgrade drom Dying light 2 in textures but it doesnt look bad in the other aspects

[tropic bobcat]

its better in person compared to DL2 imo

[spare coral]

Also yeah, dying light 2 looked waaaay better with RT on

[tropic bobcat]

and it doesnt run like shit, runs p good unlike a lot of releases this year

they need to get the frametime under control in a few areas tho

[spare coral]

Yep, i heard that it runs smooth as butter and has 0 stutters or jitters
Its crazy to hear that from a game in 2025

[tropic bobcat]

ehhh idk about that

def some hiccups...like in this area specifically it jitters a lot. like a lot a lot.

https://i.imgur.com/7d7vpQb.jpeg

but performance is very good compared to the slop weve gotten this year...

[spare coral]

Lmao at least it isnt something like cronos the new dawn
Damn stutters everywhere and sucky frametime

[tropic bobcat]

FSr4 looks great in this game tho ngl

[spare coral]

Looks way better and runs better than Borderlands 4

[tawny thicket]

hard disagree on the looking better part

DLTB doesnt even have DF shadows

[spare coral]

[tawny thicket]

and some shadows are drawn like 4meters in front of zou on max settings

who knows
maybe all that will be solved by RT but then perf is gonna go down

[ebon epoch]

libre hardware monitor just stopped reporting on almost everything from my CPU

weirdly, will still get loads, but no clocks, wattage or temperature

but I can get it froum hwinfo or the corsair desktop application

I tried reinstalling .net framework but it still happens

I have no idea what caused it to stop working tbh

[tropic bobcat]

Great.

Now you can switch to HWInfo and dump that garbage software.

[ebon epoch]

hwinfo wishes it was anywhere near as user friendly as lhm

all I need is a plot for my cpu and gpu loads and temperatures on my side monitor, don't need to know how many microfarts my ram has performed in this particular quarter of a microflop

[tropic bobcat]

That’s….actually really fair

But I use Adrenaline so I don’t need Libre to be honest with you. Adrenaline is accurate enough.

[ebon epoch]

I'll check adrenaline

[tropic bobcat]

https://i.imgur.com/TxcbHKP.png

thats how I setup adrenaline for my use case, looks and feels great.

[ebon epoch]

haven't found a way to have a plot on hwinfo, all I want is being able to see at a glance how my gpu and cpu have been doing on my side monitor

[tropic bobcat]

nvidia?

[ebon epoch]

indeed

I've tried with afterburner but the plotting isn't early as nice

however it is quite annoying that it up and stopped working out of the blue. I think it was due to an update forced by CoP of all things

[tropic bobcat]

amd here

[coarse linden]

What i need is hwinfo not to crash my pc

But as later discovered its not actually the cause. CPU seems to be on its way out

Which is annoying since i was looking forward selling this crap once my new stuff arrives

[azure ore]

Is stalker 2 more gpu or cpu dependant

[reef zenith]

CPU

[azure ore]

What settings can i turn down to reduce cpu loas

[reef zenith]

🤔

[reef zenith]

I just used this guy's recommendation https://youtu.be/814y2OPLsX0?si=bRb8JTAW-GOmfv12&t=648

Tends to keep it running pretty well for me at 1440P Even it towns

Otherwise as an actual answer to your question, Mostly the LOD stuff, grass, object detail...

[plucky quail]

Does stalker has many LOD or low amount? I never checked and also hard to do if you need to install 600gb for modding

[plucky quail]

Nothing really everything you turn down does affect more gpu but you could try turning lighting down. That should reduce cpu usage

[azure ore]

I have textures and shadows on high

Everything else in on low, i use fsr on native aa

[ebon epoch]

not much

the cpu bottleneck won't be truly fixed until the engine update I'm afraid.

as it stands right now the game just has a gigantic overhead on CPU that can't be helped much on the user's side

[hazy arch]

Anyone here have a 5700x3d? What gpu do you have and how is the game preforming for you?

[late ferry]

mrkymura has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[reef zenith]

I'm on the 5800X3D, 3080.
1440P using those settings in the video I sent.
Runs pretty good, around 70-100 average

[nimble nexus]

What CPU do you have?

[tropic bobcat]

@hazy arch I’ll be home in a couple hours and I’ll send you the files to get FSR4 running on your 7900 GRE.

[hazy arch]

Thank you.

[tropic bobcat]

Thanks for reminding me of this. 😂

@hazy arch

https://upload.disroot.org/r/X5a7n37M#SMEtzC3l7stVnvA18hWzQmkeQZ4tC4q3tIOo/6yE21w=

So, if you want to get FSR4 running on your 7900 GRE you’ll need to download that and upzip it. I just leave this file on my desktop. How this works is if the game already supports FSR4 by default you do not need to use Optiscaler, I’d actually suggest not using Optiscaler if the game already supports FSR4 as it does nothing for you. If that is the case you will need to find where the game’s .EXE file is located and you will drop the “amd_fidelityfx_upscaler_dx12.dll” into where the .EXE is. It will ask you to replace the file and you can go ahead and do that.

Now if the game does not natively support FSR4 by default you will yet again find where the .EXE is located for whatever name and dump the contents of the entire folder I just sent you into that location. Now this is where things get tricky. You are going to want to run the “setup_windows.bat” file from within the folder you just dumped the contents into. Now it will ask some questions and generally you are going to select option 1, 1, and 2. From there you load the game, select either XESS or FSR, doesn’t matter what version. You’ll from there open Optiscaler by pressing Insert and from there you can select FSR4 under the “FFFX” option within Optiscaler.

If you need any help getting this to work let me know.

[tawny thicket]

Optiscaler is still useful even if the game does natively support FSR4

since you get the option to use CAS/RCAS (the best sharpening algo) and OS which can help image quality on ML upscalers
and on top of that it lets you force the right FSR 4 model

this is especially usefull in games like Stutter 2 where when you try to use quality upscaling it will try to use the native AA(/UQ) model
which gets crippled the moment you go below 76% res (and quality mode is 66%)

[azure ore]

Nice setup, im on the same cpu but on a 4070 founders instead of the 3080

[azure ore]

@reef zenith how much ram do you have and at what speed

[reef zenith]

32gb at 3200mhz

[azure ore]

DDR4?

[reef zenith]

Yeah 4

[azure ore]

If you can try get a 3600mhz kit

[reef zenith]

It won't matter 😜
Maybe a frame difference.

Don't think even the moba can go above 3200

[coarse linden]

Not really significant difference tbh

[reef zenith]

For the extra money no

[azure ore]

It all helps in my opinion

No matter how small

[coarse linden]

half a frame more is not worth the money of getting new kit of product thats EOL

[reef zenith]

I mean yeah... But that's an extra $150-250 🤷‍♂️

[azure ore]

In my case i got a 32gb kit for 100

[coarse linden]

More benefit would be trying to tighten timings

[reef zenith]

AUD

[flat brook]

He’d be better off putting that money into a pot towards an AM5/DDR5 setup than wasting it for a single millisecond difference

Sorry, nanosecond even

[reef zenith]

The PC runs fine 😜xDD

[coarse linden]

Heh just bought 32GB DDR5 kit for 87€

[reef zenith]

I've looked at AM5 and just meh 🤣

Yes it's better, but all that money for ram, moba and cpu.

[coarse linden]

Pretty sure im getting shafted somehow since 6000 CL28 sounds too good for that price

[flat brook]

Everyone has their own needs and wants, if you can get by on AM4 still, more power to you!

[reef zenith]

I'm still using the same moba from 2018 I bought for my 2700x 🤣

[coarse linden]

AM4 especially with 5800X3D will work fine until market is flooded with ue5 slop that needs better cpu for shts and giggles

[flat brook]

My hobbies have simply gotten out of hand, hence why I “need” a 9800X3D, 64GB of DDR5, a 5080 alongside my 13700k 64GB powered server rig.

At least that’s what I tell my wife

[reef zenith]

Good god 🤣🤣

[coarse linden]

You absolutely need 256GB of ram for ramdrive!

[reef zenith]

Which at the very best would shave 0.01 second off your game load times 🤣

[coarse linden]

Speeeeeeed!!

[flat brook]

Don’t even get me started on my peripherals or the amount of NVME drives in the server rig, my wife will genuinely kill me if she finds out how much everything truly costs

[coarse linden]

So... About that new NVME you are going to buy me or else your wife finds out about that

[flat brook]

Goddamnit

I still have a spare M570 pro laying around somewhere in the box I think

Scratch that, M470 pro

[coarse linden]

Out of all the hardware i hoard for some reason i have absolutely no SSD's lying around

[flat brook]

I just have it as a backup drive for when my 970 EVO kicks the dust in the server rig.

Was too lazy to move everything over, so purged drivers from the 970, threw it in the server rig and done

But that drive is around 6 years old now IIRC

[coarse linden]

Got plenty of HDD's in a box lol

Too lazy to get rid of them

[nimble nexus]

MB's should last for a few generations of CPU.

[reef zenith]

Looking at you INTEL! xD

[nimble nexus]

If I could, I would...

[reef zenith]

Man if i had the money i'd have a 5090 with a 9800X3D some overkill ram and a few PCI 8TB drives cause why not 😂

But in a "trying to save money" world i'll be sticking with the 5800X3D and 3080 till something decent comes around. Amd's 9070xt looks promising, might look at it's upgrade

[nimble nexus]

Nah.... Even with all the money in the world, will I ever buy nVidia again. I am very happy with my new 9070XT, knowing that nVidia are getting no more of my money.

[nimble nexus]

the 9070XT is just a stunning thing. I got the Red Devil one, and wow! the thing is sweet as a nut.

[reef zenith]

Oh it does look good for sure.. but eh xD
This is holding me, Maybe the 10070XT

[nimble nexus]

not a 9180XT

[reef zenith]

Whatever they call it, Would still sound better then the core ultra line xD

[nimble nexus]

With quality up scaling at 1080p Cyberpunk 2077 runs at 60fps on path tracing. And for a car at it's price range, 1 generation behind nVidia... That is pretty fecking good.

[reef zenith]

I don't use path tracing/ray tracing in cyberpunk xD
But it runs sweet as a nut at 4K

[nimble nexus]

What card you got?

[reef zenith]

3080 xP

[nimble nexus]

that is what I just upgraded from

[reef zenith]

I meant 4K, Dlss quality, FG, optimized settings yada yada. Not straight 4K xD

[nimble nexus]

had a ASUS LHR 12Gb version

[reef zenith]

I have the launch 10GB version xD

[nimble nexus]

should have waited... Although, I did have to sell a kidney on the black market to get it. I was upgrading from a 2070 super.

[reef zenith]

Oh it was not worth the extra price for 2GB more xD

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3080GAMING-OC-10GD-rev-10

[nimble nexus]

Well, it was at the time when nothing was at MSRP and what ever your brought, you got mugged off... But I am into VR racing, like ACC and LMU, so need the extra umph to not be on the vomit comet.

[reef zenith]

I got mine at launch with what i was sure was normal price, $1500 AUD

[nimble nexus]

Good man

[reef zenith]

1060, 1070, 2080, 3080 xP

[nimble nexus]

Voodoo 3, 450, 660gtx, 880GTX, 1060 (6GB), 2070 super, 3080, 9070XT... And there are probably some that I have forgotten too 😄

[reef zenith]

The family PC had a 6600gt and a 8800GT xD

[nimble nexus]

The family PC that never gets upgraded...

Luckily for me, I had a gamer Dad, so our got upgraded sometimes...

[reef zenith]

Hey the 8800gt held it's own in BF3 xD
Till the fan bearing wore out

[nimble nexus]

Nothing wrong with it at all, had one in a laptop of mine

[reef zenith]

Then... it was swapped out for a GT610 shivers

[nimble nexus]

Ooooo

That hurts...

But for all those wonmderful memories with nVidia, they are to be no more. Just a vile and horrible company that took my loyality for granted and spat in my face.

[reef zenith]

But the more you buy the more you save xD

[nimble nexus]

I wish I could have punched him in the face right then

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/4Nh1vxGNsFs?si=NbpDp2Qpn6xxDmS4

amd just gate keeping

[tawny thicket]

yeah
if they dont release this im gonna be MAD

the best part is that that Int8 leaked model is soo much better than XeSS lol

its also probably better than DLSS CNN (at least VS its C,D,A,B models)

[tawny thicket]

like in satisfactory XeSS DP4A wasnt noticeably better than FSR 3.1 on fine lines and stuff, it also had a bunch of boiling
i tested the int8 model (for curiousities sake) and it looked sooo muucchhh better than XeSS

it did cost more though
XeSS DP4A was 1.2ms
FSR 4 Int8 was 1.3ms
FSR 4 FP8 was 0.6ms

[nimble nexus]

EH?

What are you talking about?

[tropic bobcat]

Agree to disagree.

[tropic bobcat]

They're referencing that AMD doesn't release FSR4 on RDNA but the recent leaks...

Still not gatekeeping though.

[tawny thicket]

Stutter 2 FSR 4 quality mode is literally unplayable without opti
and its actually worse than 3.1...

[tropic bobcat]

Yeah its atorcious.

The exception is not the norm.

Stalker 2 also doesn't support FSR4 out of the box so Opti is literally required for it anyway.

[tawny thicket]

what ? it does tho

[late ferry]

aquaticle000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tropic bobcat]

when was that added?

[tawny thicket]

OS: https://imgsli.com/NDA1MzQ2/0/7

[tawny thicket]

day 1

[tropic bobcat]

The hell it was lmao

Unless you were forcing it through software there was no out of the box support day 1.

Either way,. the implemtation is awful, devs pls fix.

[tawny thicket]

it certainly was
i distinctly remember some channels showing it on day one
but it only works on the steam version

[tropic bobcat]

gay

dying light the beast better rn

[tawny thicket]

quality mode at 1080p is meant to be 720p
in stutter 2 its 721p, thats probably why its broken

[tropic bobcat]

I noticed that earlier...

[coarse linden]

Was not day 1

[tropic bobcat]

Yeah probably because FSR4 wasn’t released when Stalker 2 came out. But I didn’t mention that.

[tawny thicket]

thats not what i meant lol

[tawny thicket]

i meant day 1 of FSR 4 being released lol
not day one of stutter 2

[nimble nexus]

Not really, if hardware is required to use it. And yeah, maybe they release for older GPU's like the 7900XT, maybe they won't, but at least they are trying too, by the looks of it.

I mean, it's not like they are not upgrading 3.1.whatever, that can be used by almost everything.

If hardware is required to make FSR better, then what do you expect them to do? Upgrade everyone's GPU even if it is nVidia? Not make the improvements and the get constantly called shyte, to avoid some butthurt feelings of people years old cards.

Nothing gate-keeping about it, ridiculous thing to say.

[reef zenith]

@nimble nexus Oh also thought I should add, both CPU and GPU are undervolted 👍

[hollow kettle]

https://youtu.be/VPMOjdvmHMk?si=pXAmiHW7HcLr_XkJ

Fsr4 on rdna3 & maybe even rdna2 with simple dll swap. On Windows

From what I seen it is totally worth it

[azure ore]

What will the engine upgrade do?

[spare coral]

Better performance

[tawny thicket]

hopelessfully yes

but theres 3 way this can go
A: the game becomes and even bigger mess and might even run worse
B: effectivly nothing changes
C: the game gets much better

[spare coral]

copium and hopium together

[plucky quail]

I coulnt have put it better than this.

[azure ore]

https://tenor.com/view/game-gameshow-saleofthecentury-jimperry-correct-gif-15362881

[austere crest]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

Blame Discord for not scrolling.

[nimble nexus]

Nice... nothing wrong with a bit of undervolting, cooler and quieter.

[nimble nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[reef zenith]

MUCH cooler 🤣
Also GPU power draw from 350-360w down to 280ish

[nimble nexus]

That's nice... I havent done anything like that to my stuff. I just cant be asked...

Although, I am dual booting at the moment, between bazzite and Windows, and on windows, I have used winenhance to remove 99% of the garbage Microsoft try to shove on you. Like Edge... which has been completely oblitorated.

https://winhance.net/

Also got a new VR Headset yesterday, brand new condition, Vive Pro 2, for 399, retail price 650... Excellent deal that

[austere crest]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

And yes, he deserves this, to the face.

[nimble nexus]

I prefer buttshot 😄

Limp MF. Limp 😄

[austere crest]

Still allows him to be the CEO.

[nimble nexus]

Use AI, to work up a plan and bring down nVidia... and execute it... And just have nVidia fire fighting their own technology.

[austere crest]

AI...now that's how we set ourselves up to fail with how badly AI tends to be working these days.

[nimble nexus]

You take out the CEO and like a Hydra, a new head will take its place.

[nimble nexus]

Actually, when it comes to some stuff, it's pretty good.

If you restrict it to "reputable sources", when it comes to science and stuff, it's pretty good.

[austere crest]

Right, but something that can beat NVIDIA requires it to be better than that over-valued POS company...there's the problem.

Plus, NVIDIA can afford to just have in-house GPU clusters.

[nimble nexus]

Well, it's only going to get worse once Jenson is gone... And the really evil takes over.

[plucky quail]

Leather Jacked²?

[austere crest]

True. Except Jensen's already bad enough...so...well...

[nimble nexus]

If only.

[austere crest]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

More like, "It's safe to pay me more, now."

[nimble nexus]

Assume the position Jenson style.

[austere crest]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-huang-nvidia-ces-2025-blackwell-rtx-50-series-gif-12534509959108132851

[nimble nexus]

How is he so fecking rich... How do these people get into positions of power... The world is just all wrong, I want to get off.

[austere crest]

Capitalism.

[nimble nexus]

Gone mad.

[austere crest]

I mean, that's just capitalism. Working as intended.

[plucky quail]

He is self made. He literally earned it

[nimble nexus]

No, capitalism has many faces, the evillest one is neoliberalist economics.

[plucky quail]

He is the best version you could get in the millionaire world.

[nimble nexus]

No, that is simply not true...

[plucky quail]

It would be like saying the same to Gabe

[plucky quail]

Yes it is. He could be much worse and I mean a lot

Just look at intel how they did business and literally played foul. With them getting sued and lose

Still we are seeing things Intel did that is just so bad to do. just evil

[nimble nexus]

I don't see Gabe going around fleecing gamers for the price of graphics cards...

I mean, the guy is trying to develop a free OS, that will provide an alternative to the morally bankrupt Microsoft corporation. When was the last time you say Jenson giving away something for free that has the potential to change the entire face of the tech industry.

nVidia, made the market for the like of EVGA to continue, because of the practices they employ.

And no, he cant get much worse. Scum is scum, whatever way you look at it.

[nimble nexus]

And now they are getting punished for it, just like nVidia will.

[past escarp]

fellas - aorus master or red devil? rx 9070 xt

[late ferry]

bauderbaumeister has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[past escarp]

as i heard - valve`s os is based on linux, so they couldnt make people pay for it, even if they wanted to

[nimble nexus]

I got a red Devil... The thing rocks and is silent...

[plucky quail]

Suc//-k my coc///—k wolf

[past escarp]

i mean i love the way aorus master looks, but i heard that red devil is one of, if not the best version of 9070xt. also they have a huge difference in price(300UAH)

[nimble nexus]

Preciously why it's made on linux... And put so much time and effort into it, getting it working so it can play games...

It wasn't a forced choice... It was something they decided to do for gaming.

[plucky quail]

Not even that they need more people using Linux to get more support on it. For getting more sales on steam deck cuz of the native support of Linux with that

[nimble nexus]

You pay for quality, and that is what you get... I will send you a pick of mine

[plucky quail]

No it’s just business. We didn’t have the install. Just way after we got it

[past escarp]

well i think also the reason is that linux is already existing core for os, so they need to do less work

[plucky quail]

They would not care if Linux had enough userbase and support

[nimble nexus]

That because it's not finished for desktops yet. But thing that makes it fly for gaming, is free for any distro it works on... Bazzite (Fedora), runs like a dream on it.

[past escarp]

also ive heard that red devil has a support for gpu (like a small pillar that can be extended) for gpu support, so i could retire my lego bricks

[nimble nexus]

Oh no, you have no idea how much work they have had to put into... The first SteamOS cam out over a decade ago and they have been working on it ever since.

2013 the first steam OS came out

so nearly 13 years in development.

[plucky quail]

The same with AMD they only do open source cuz it cost them Less and devs can implement it far easier. Bad thing of it is that your property stuff isn’t anymore property.

[austere crest]

Not to me...all capitalism is the same.

[plucky quail]

Fight to survive

[nimble nexus]

I think you need to look a little more into. Not all capitalism is the same.

[nimble nexus]

That's just wrong and ill-informed

[plucky quail]

What. You think it’s diff? What you think capitalism is. It you want to get rich like a millionaire you need to fight with the things you have. Just look how every single company is up there.
Bribe, steal, destroy, lie and also sometimes kill.
Sounds really like a survival.

[nimble nexus]

You really have never read, listened, or had an education with economics have you?

https://www.youtube.com/@RichardJMurphy - Listen to some of this guys stuff, he has been involved with economics for years... Especially listen to the stuff about passionate economics and the stuff on neolibralist economics.

[plucky quail]

Idk how the neoliberal economic gonna invalidate the thing that I said. Before and after. Company’s have always thought that way no matter how much free they were. The only way you can limit it is by socializing those but it will be always there.
It’s something in the person that does that. You can also see it in governments how they operate.
So fighting to survive fits in.

[nimble nexus]

Because it's evil capitalism that the world is run on today... But the my point is, watch is videos, and capitalism doesn't have to be bad if it is done fairly... Which it is not. And remember, no system is perfect.

[spare coral]

Im playing silent hill f rn
Pretty weird to have 100+ frames on native without frame gen or upscalers on a UE5 title

[regal magnet]

pretty weird while most other ue5 games are PowerPoint-level performance

[austere crest]

Yes, I know there's a lot of nuance, but end of the day, capitalism is capitalism. Profiteering.

Nothing about capitalism is something I can support. Though my perspective ties into other things that I don't want to elaborate on, so I'll digress.

[austere crest]

Yep...fight and hoard power to win.

[reef zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/uhmhmn-sarcasm-sarcastic-gif-19429002

[spare coral]

Still has traverlsal stutters like most other ue5 games but the base framerate is pretty high and the cpu/gpu usage is normal lol

[coarse linden]

Fml

Now my test data is useless to see how 5800X goes against 9800X3D

[sacred quest]

I started a new Game. My Specs 9800x3d, 9070xt and 64Gb Ram. I use fsr4 native AA and have 90-140fps. Its Run very smooth. But my PC use 31,6gb of Ram when i Play Stalker 2. Thats pretty high i think 🤔

PS: sry for my english i'm fron Germany 👋

[plucky quail]

Ja that’s normal tho I also saw that prypat takes even more ram.

[coarse linden]

Ram is there to be used

[uneven portal]

So Stalker 2 = Cinebench rendering

[reef zenith]

You paid for all the cores and it's going to use all the cores 🤣

Silent hill Fid an unreal engine game too, but I'd be interested to know how much CPU it actually uses even if it's "more optimised"

[austere crane]

is gamepad aiming sensitivity just borked on 1.6 now?

[spare coral]

It never goes above 30% on my i512600k unlike stalker 2

[cedar ice]

So did the patch just break mouse sensitivity? Already see people talking about controller sensitivity. Aim sensitivity does nothing to affect my ADS speed x.x

[plucky quail]

Pretty much only game that does that. Every other game does take less. Tho I need to say on my cpu I never get 30gb usage since intel is more efficient on storage. But it can go up to 27gb

[uneven portal]

not even capable of using them properly

I don't know who at GSC thought it was a good idea to use the worst version of Unreal Engine when it comes to optimizing CPU and memory usage for AI.

Luckily, they're finally going to update it.

[past escarp]

what are you talking about? i never seen more then 22gb usage

i personally had like 18-22gb usage, my friend had like 22-23gb

[plucky quail]

did you roam around Prypjat? My last game on there was early 2025. Can be now less but the guy also said he has rn 31GB usage

it was pretty high usage vs all the other places

[coarse linden]

You know my browser use to slurp 2 - 3GB of ram. After i put in 32GB it jumped to 5

Same kind of behavior with modern games

Or either i have very screwed windows installation which is also very possible

[vernal zodiac]

That's normal behaviour if you move from 8GB to 16GB the PC will use more resources as it's available

[coarse linden]

Since this is still OG windows 7 installation lol that been through upgrades. Since im lazy like that

[vernal zodiac]

damn 🙁 I miss windows 7

[plucky quail]

i mean if you have 8 GB its gonna be full the whole time

[reef zenith]

It's what was out when the game released 🤷‍♂️

[coarse linden]

Tbh it might not be "that" big of an issue these days since it will flood to storage drive and sicne everyones got fancy mancy m.2s these days instead HDDs

[plucky quail]

Yea still on 16GB the game is unplayable

[coarse linden]

Eh gotta move on with the times

[plucky quail]

This game needs least 32/24Gb and its still using lot over other games i have in my store

[coarse linden]

Launch day Stalker 2 used about 20GB for me

[plucky quail]

On prypjat?

[coarse linden]

Dont recall where it was measured

Multi hour session anyway

[plucky quail]

Thats what i am saying its using a lot in prypjat

Prob cuz lot of stuff is packed in one place

[coarse linden]

Now i cant go test since i have preppred system for tomorrow upgrade

Bloody multi million retailers and still takes a week to send the fcking cpu

[plucky quail]

The fck

Where did you buy that thing?

[coarse linden]

Retailer that only sells in nordics

[past escarp]

Yeah i did, there also was no problems with ram usage

[reef zenith]

Most i've seen it use since the patch is 8 on 32Gb

[tawny thicket]

the begining is so crazy lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI4BAaSZb8

[plucky quail]

Thanks Steve

[fading stone]

hows the new update perfomance?

[tawny thicket]

lol poor intel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871735/1420351498541596724/2025-09-24_12-07-16.mp4?ex=68d514ea&is=68d3c36a&hm=a18409a50ed3cc45e5fd1a6be6c9af4f519f6e9bca18067f0a5f5e4e4738199d&

[plucky quail]

Not a change

[reef zenith]

It does seems a tad more stable... Towns still drop.
But it seems a little bit better

[tawny thicket]

u sure its not placebo ?

[plucky quail]

Placebo I thought the same till I opened the frame rate. Towns are the same still and outside too tho they said combat will cost less fps now

[reef zenith]

🤷‍♂️

[uneven portal]

nop

I ran a test and it's even worse, it consumes more RAM and VRAM.

What I did a few days earlier was save specific points and record a video so I could compare them later

https://files.fm/u/rgc7wc5enj

https://files.fm/u/cmt3qg36af

[hazy arch]

I have potential fix for RAM and VRAM, but I don't know how to ask the devs if it's just placebo.

[uneven portal]

VRAM and RAM consumption is high, but it's not the game's biggest problem.

and developers know full well what they have to do

[hazy arch]

I use to get crashes on 12GB RAM use(I have 32GB). Now I can't get the game to use more then 11GB and it doesn't crash. So not the same scenario.

[uneven portal]

If you had told me even 16, but 12? I don't think it even meets the requirement of several games from recent years.

Also keep in mind that unlike other games, we are forced to use Lumen, which consumes a lot of resources (and GSC still hasn't added Lumen hardware).

[plucky quail]

Thats more Margine of error

[hazy arch]

That is what confused me. I have 32GB, but 12GB use makes it crash.

[plucky quail]

AlSO GUYS there is no TAA or No AA option in the game anymore

[uneven portal]

aaa so I didn't understand the message, maybe because of my English mb

Do you have 4 RAM modules in your PC?

Maybe two of them cause problems, and when you use them (those 12 RAM), Stalker 2 crashes.

[plucky quail]

That must be a bug you should send them your Game Crashes and do general check

Maybe its user error

[hazy arch]

2 modules.

[uneven portal]

Are they the same brand and speed?

[hazy arch]

All I know is I added coded to user settings and now the game does not crash.

[uneven portal]

And to think that it will soon be a year since the game came out.

[plucky quail]

Just send them all the data. THey gonna tell you if its a game bug or user error / your PC

[plucky quail]

Hell no no AA should be a option. Don’t want to go in game files just to have it

[tawny thicket]

why ?

[plucky quail]

To see with how much shit the AAs need to deal with. I mean it’s 50% of a normal rendered game.

They don’t even need to maintain no AA so idk why to put it out if it’s in already

[tawny thicket]

thats fun to look at sure
but would anyone actually wanna play like that ?
devs arent trying to make a tech demo for TAAU, they're trying to make a game

[tawny thicket]

because a bunch of people complained about how no upscaling ruins the visuals ?
though, TBF they couldve just not called every AA method an "upscaler"

[plucky quail]

I did but I am also crazy so can’t tell

[coarse linden]

Well then

Im a fcking genious

Formated my backup drive while installing windows lmao

[hazy arch]

So can I now run the game without the upscale technology and it won't be fuzzy?

[tawny thicket]

No
You just cant disable upscaling now
Perfect 👌

[ocean yew]

game looked terrible without it anyway...

also looks terrible with it though

[polar mountain]

What cpu?

[coarse linden]

9800X3D

[polar mountain]

Nice, enjoy it

[hollow kettle]

So there is only fsr aa, dlaa and xess aa now?

[hazy arch]

SMH, all the upscale technology gives me ghosting. Great to know the 'I'm on LSD, groovy.' setting can't be switched off now. As long as game developers use the default mandolorian settings in UE and refuse to dail in settings, we are cooked. I think all UE game devs are brain dead, like Randy Pitchford. He might just be the only one regarded enough to say the quiet bit out loud.

[harsh sluice]

No idea if this is the place to ask, but heck with it. Recently got a upgrade from my old pc to an ser 8 minipc from beelink that has a 780m, 32gbs of ddr5600 ram. Would I be able to run stalker 2at all? I dont mind playing at 30fps if necessary coming from someone who grew up on first gen consoles. lol

Running a ryzen 7 8745hs for the cpu

[reef zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPiznYS2k

It looks like unless you crank it super low (Down to 720P) res it's not going all that good

That video was near the launch of the game... But it wouldn't run too much better now 🤔

[harsh sluice]

RIP. oh well. lol Only upgraded to this because my old pc was beginning to have issues with a ded thermal sensor. Do plan to eventaully get a full build again. Thanks for the help.

[reef zenith]

Well yeah i mean technically it will run... but super low 😅 Which yes may not be worth it

[harsh sluice]

If i must ill just grab a few months of gamepass to play it. lol

[tawny thicket]

So you would've played no AA ?

[hazy arch]

I did from time to time because the game would not stop smearing.

[thorny remnant]

Wait they removed that setting all together??

[tawny thicket]

yes

you can still force it through ini if you are a masochist

[thorny remnant]

Good

[polar mountain]

Does the game run better with 1.6 update?

[tawny thicket]

IDK

[reef zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV9a38gPbbw

Technically yes... but practically cannot notice

[plucky quail]

Margins of error

[spare coral]

Waiting for the engine update to start a new save lol

[plucky quail]

Me too I just played for 30min to see the new nvg and how the game is rn.

[uneven portal]

Did you notice anything about flickering in the lighting or the grass?

I don't notice anything, but people on my channel tell me they notice it worse.

[plucky quail]

No but I didn’t play long just got to all vendors then to the stash with nvg. Did roam for 15min or some and on the way killed 3 blood sucker and monoliths .

Saw nothing that was Flickering. Also checked all the AAs. So far the game actually looks better.

[uneven portal]

Could it be because they used taa before it was removed?

[plucky quail]

Only if they are somehow still on TAA

I can imagine but for that Tara must be really broken

[plucky quail]

Did you check what gpu they have. Try to categorize all the people with issues

[uneven portal]

5060ti

All of them share the fact that they use graphics from the 5000 series.

[hazy arch]

Could be the driver then.

[plucky quail]

Well well well 🍏

[uneven portal]

I didn't realize it until you said it, I swear.

[plucky quail]

Sounds like driver problem. Try to find out if other driver have the same

It could also be game Ngl warthunder had also bug for 7000. Drivers couldn’t fix it only the snail 🐌

[hazy arch]

Check images and videos channel. 40 series might be doing it too.

[uneven portal]

It's true. The textures get messed up.

I wonder then if it's something related to the use of vram, All the graphics cards affected have have 16 VRAM.

[tawny thicket]

I swear post lackwell drivers need to just stop

[hazy arch]

Nvidia still releasing bad?

[tawny thicket]

ive heard..
certainly not as shit as it used to be but still not as good as 566.36 AFAIK

[uneven portal]

For some time now, my PC has been lagging when I use Discord while playing War Thunder, for example, when I activate RTX.

I changed the thermal pads, applied Grizzly thermal paste to the core, lowered the temperature to 60 degrees, and it's still happening.

[tawny thicket]

could it be driver related ?

[tawny thicket]

so currently i think the ranking in driver stability is
AMD > Nvidia > intel

[plucky quail]

Sounds like driver try turning hags of

[uneven portal]

They're all screwed, I'm not going to lie to you.

[uneven portal]

practically 100%

[tawny thicket]

none of them is perfect sure
but atleast they are all fine right ?

[coarse linden]

Well well

FPS went up by 40 which seems decent enough

"totally worth spending 600€" lol

[hazy arch]

What did you buy?

[coarse linden]

Went from 5800X to 9800X3D

[hazy arch]

Holy!

[coarse linden]

GPU no longer slacking

Also screw that person who made so you cant turn off depth of field

[hazy arch]

Honestly I just have everything on high. The game works, looks pretty and smears from time to time. The headshots with the three point rifle is what keeps me coming back.

[tawny thicket]

daily DLTB visuals slander:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871735/1420837482366500914/Dying_Light_The_Beast_2025.09.25-21.19.mp4?ex=68d6d985&is=68d58805&hm=e5cf5b340036dfe3bc7fec5356f8de117a879e7da0bfdd82139902265097e8f2&

4K FSR 4 int8 perf mode
(im not sure but probably max settings)

[hazy arch]

Good or bad?

[tawny thicket]

the vid just shows DLTB's GI flickering/boiling like hell

[hazy arch]

Unreal engine title?

[tawny thicket]

no.

Lumen isnt even that bad

[coarse linden]

IT is

[tawny thicket]

unless its satisfactories vanilla lumen implementation
in which case they are the same

[hazy arch]

So then what's going on, cause you now me. Second away from gaslighting the unreal engine at all times.

[tawny thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871735/1420835364926656652/Dying_Light_The_Beast_2025.09.25_-_20.11.01.04.mp4?ex=68d6d78c&is=68d5860c&hm=d61210a81e26db26a0637d4919752c1414e5d5cdceb867ce9a4698e4ca95fb73&
with DLSS T

[tawny thicket]

hell no
only SF's lumen is this bad (vanilla)
every other game ive played lumen doesnt boil/flicker like that when standing still, even moving its much more stable

[uneven portal]

Yeap

[polar mountain]

Youre a hater

I finished it playing at 4k fsr performance 90fps locked

There is a bit of flickering

[tawny thicket]

I suppose that's true

[plucky quail]

Idk what black magic they did use back then, but it just worked. But I mean least the performance is good in that game and a 5090 can be a playable experience

[spare coral]

The game looks fine
Lightning is just a hater (and a ue5 lover!!!!) Ok that was a joke unless...

[ionic remnant]

[ionic remnant]

Me waiting for 2nm gpus

[plucky quail]

Me waiting for : 2nm ❌ | 2000$-RTX 6080 ✅

next gen

[tawny thicket]

depends on how good next gen will be

if its another Lackwell then it'll fall
if its another ADA it'll rise

[plucky quail]

Or be lackwell and still increase Price

🤑

[midnight maple]

hi guys, anyone use the FSR4 INT8 with RX7000er in stalker 2 and can say it maybe works ?

[plucky quail]

It does work but the game is to badly designed that upscaler struggle.
@tawny thicket using it and I think for him it looks good over other AAs.
Use optiscaler

[tawny thicket]

im on RX 9000 tho
FSR 4 FP8 is blurrier than FSR 3.1 in this game tho..

i havent tried INT8 in stutter 2 yet

[midnight maple]

it works only with optiscaler ?

someone know when the UE5 update comes to Stalker2 ? any information about that ?

[coarse linden]

When its ready

[plucky quail]

For 7000 yes only Opti they need to implement FSR4 in to the game native. Only then you can use it without opti

[tawny thicket]

stutter 2 has the driver override but the quality preset doesnt work correctly (so you'd need opti even on RDNA4)
but on RX 7000 you do and will always need opti no matter what..

[midnight maple]

is there a chance that stalker 2 get native fsr4 in the game ?

[plucky quail]

Ask them

[ionic remnant]

Just use dlss

But for real gotta wait till 2026 till amd integrated fsr 4 for 7000 gpus no ?

[unborn otter]

Hey guys, how optimized is the game now as of this update? Last time i played was back in March of this year, running at a somewhat stable 60 fps.
Heres my specs, i played on Medium when i last played.

Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz, 2304 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
(RAM) 32.0 GB
GPU NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU

Just wanna know if i can play on higher settings, or if when i play on medium if it will be higher than 60 fps, Thanks.

[tropic bobcat]

Assuming they release it at all.

[tropic bobcat]

FSR4 looks like crap in this game.

Upscalers in general are just plain bad in this game.

[open aurora]

hey guys I was thinking if this laptop can run Stalker with Epic settings without upscaller at 1080p, can you guys tell me if a 5060, I7 13650hx could?

[civic hull]

Iirc you can, yeah

I've seen someone running it at 1440p on dlss quality and epic settings with the 115w version of the card, so I'm sure it will work for 1080p

You can always drop some stuff to high tho, I dont think you lose much

[open aurora]

I was hopping play the game at 1440p, thats so good news, thanks

[civic hull]

They had dlss quality btw, about 70 fps

[open aurora]

is perfect to me, I play on series S now btw

[civic hull]

Will be a welcomed change then

[open aurora]

yep

[civic hull]

Idk if it changed that significantly, but there will be an update in which they will use an improved version of UE5. Best you can do is to wait for that and compare to older versions. It won't reach 100 constant fps but it will (or should) be better

[plucky quail]

Nothing will help with this game on a laptop 3060. I guess you have a 6gb gpu?

[plucky quail]

Gpu vram?

[tawny thicket]

5060M is 8GB i think

yeah, 8GB https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5060-mobile.c4230

[hoary copper]

Accept maybe engine update

[plucky quail]

Not even that. Maybe a mod to compress textures even more but it will look ugly too

[tawny thicket]

UE 5.5 can actually downgrade textures to PS1 level when you run out of VRAM
so it could actuallly help

[plucky quail]

I doub that. You aint gonna gain 2gb less with that

[tawny thicket]

no, but you also wont get your performance crippled when you run out

[plucky quail]

on 6gb it will not help you still gonna have the crippled FPS i can see it with 8gb but 6gb is out of question

[tawny thicket]

it helped in ASA so IDK
might.

[plucky quail]

Also diff game.

[tawny thicket]

and ? same engine version..
UE5 devs dont edit the engine much anyway

[plucky quail]

Still diff games.

[coarse linden]

Heh game runs now like a dream

Except Lumen diarrhea since you know wannabe raytracing

Slag heap use to nuke me down to 40 - 50fps range, now staying around 100

Imagine that... Buying top gaming CPU and things just work lol

[past escarp]

Is 7800x3d worth 275$?

[tawny thicket]

thats way too low for one i think

[past escarp]

also is like 850$ good for 9070xt xfx mercury?

[coarse linden]

For that price id say yeah

[plucky quail]

holy moly 100%

[plucky quail]

Nah but 650ish would be worth

[past escarp]

Well about that.. minimal price here is like 800$

[coarse linden]

Makes one wonder what is AMD cooking now that they moved few batches at such discount

[past escarp]

well ive seen such price only in one internet site, of which i never heard, but it has quite a few reviews

[coarse linden]

Most countries seem to have gotten atleast 1 retailer selling both 7800X3D and 9800X3D at like 100€ off

[past escarp]

well im not buying 9800x3d for 500$

[coarse linden]

Not too much difference between 2 so cant blame ya

[past escarp]

also i am thinking about buying a new phone

maybe like google pixel 9 or samsung galaxy s24

[plucky quail]

I think they also gonna up the production to get ahead of Intel and Nvidia. I bet they want next gen to land.

[coarse linden]

I mean 7800X3D should be out of production

So supply might just go poof in 1 day

[past escarp]

i`ll upgrade pc first, and then buy a new phone

[past escarp]

not where i live

[coarse linden]

Got me Xiaomi phone trusting their word that it will get 3 major anroid version upgrades

Turns out they silently went back on their words and gives me the finger with ending security updates in few months too instead of giving it the android update

[plucky quail]

Where are you that you can buy 7800X3D for that low but 850 for the gpu

[past escarp]

ukraine man, ukraine. also 275$ is price only in one site, but mostly its like 375$

[coarse linden]

275 is kinda no brainer

[plucky quail]

They must have some crazy deal with the CPUs

[coarse linden]

Especially when you get to pay 400 for used 5800X3D

[past escarp]

ah now i see, there is at least 7 shops that sell for that price, but i never heard about them

[plucky quail]

I hope no one buys that

[coarse linden]

People absolutely buy that

[plucky quail]

WTF is there a state funded CPU bond ß

[past escarp]

where do you have such price?

i dont think that sites which i never heard about is a bad site, but its really weird

i guess that big networks are selling for that price cause they can sell it, but smaller ones may struggle

[coarse linden]

My local market place sites.. People are desperate to stick to am4 just a little longer

Was there mod to get console out? I cant stand this injustice of game screwing me out of a weapon

[plucky quail]

Best deal we got here is a 7800XT for 420€

[plucky quail]

Just give the platform up

🙏🏼 🙏🏼 😭

[past escarp]

fun fact - for some unknown reason - here are some models of 7800xt which cost like 9070(non xt) - about 750$

[coarse linden]

Meanwhile AMD releases new CPUs for am4

[past escarp]

so fellas - are there any good phones for maybe like 750$?

[coarse linden]

Beyond me why would anyone pay over 350 for a phone

[plucky quail]

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/31-5Zoll--80-01cm--MSI-MPG-321URXWDE-QD-OLED-Weiss-3840x2160-1xDisplayP_1627046.html How can i see how good the Burn in protection is on this? Is there any standard for such?

[coarse linden]

Especially when they screw you over with making it obsolete in 3 years because lack of android updates

[past escarp]

i just want to try some like flagmanship smartphone, cause the ones i used were either cheap or obsolete options

my current one is redmi note 8 pro

[plucky quail]

Imo you only need a 500€-800€ Phone since you can do prettymuch all things on it. Todays MAX Pros can play AAA games on 2400x1080P displays.

[plucky quail]

Just install Linux 🙂

[past escarp]

also we have here preorders for iphone 17 air for 1500$, not that ill buy it, but fyi

[coarse linden]

If you care of banking apps you cant llol

[past escarp]

i honestly couldnt care less, cause i had the same phone for 5 yrs, and model itself is like 7 yrs

[coarse linden]

If i would be spending some stupid money i would probably get Nothing phone 3 or some model

[past escarp]

and why?

[coarse linden]

Lacks bloat most phones come with and they give it 7 years of security updates and 5 android version updates

But flagship phones are just waste imo... Battery life takes such hit for sake of "power"

[past escarp]

does it have any problems?

[coarse linden]

Dont know

[past escarp]

well i never changed battery on my phone

it does have less hrs then it used, but its still okay i guess

[coarse linden]

Do you need powerful phone?

[past escarp]

i just want to see and use a good high-quality phone

[coarse linden]

Kinda waste to buy snapdragon 8 phone when you dont have actual need for it

[past escarp]

well yes, but still better then xiaomi`s phones with a ton of ads

[coarse linden]

Absolutely but dont need to pay so much to get something decent

[past escarp]

just want to have a nice phone, that wont lag

[coarse linden]

Nothing Phone (3a) should probably work just fine for that

[past escarp]

okay thank you

ill look into it

[past escarp]

why mercury 9070xt is so huge?

[little parrot]

Dis someone try using leaked fsr4 with windows 11 pro with an rx6000 ? the If yes how was it and does it actually change from fsr3 (i know it does but specefecally) in stalker2 how is it?

[tawny thicket]

you have to use 23.9.1 for it to work tho btw

[plucky quail]

Cuz it has mercury in it

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/4iP6C7EV4G0?feature=shared

[hazy arch]

Now if only everyone, except the cleaning staff, at Microsoft could drink bleach. That would be great. Decades on and they can't fix system reserve corruption?

[vernal zodiac]

and remove the "spyware" from windows

[real kraken]

Stalker 2 is available on Linux ?

[pure ibex]

No

[wanton comet]

u could still get it to run tho

[pure ibex]

Well yah

[wanton comet]

but meh

[hazy arch]

I have been playing it on linux since December. I am using steam and proton.

[plucky quail]

Ofc it is. Just need proton

Prob even runn better cuz of much less bloat for the cpu.

[plucky quail]

Who gave green light

Also amd bringing out pre compiled shader download. Sounds cool. Many other companies will follow but for that we gonna wait till November

[pure ibex]

It won’t run with out a wrapper

[hazy arch]

On cachyos inquisitor martyr runs better then on windows.

[real kraken]

Thx

[plucky quail]

Proton is a wrapper that’s also one of many reasons why I am only buying my games on steam.

[pure ibex]

Yes

https://youtu.be/LZ259Jx8MQY?feature=shared

I wanted to do this with Zip drives but

Windows wouldn’t tolerate it

[hazy arch]

Oh btw, gog's game work great through proton as well. Add non steam game. Then properties it to your liking... I run OG Diablo2(Blizzard), Quake2(GoG) and OG Oblivion(GoG) in this way without any issues.

[polar mountain]

used 16 pro

used 16pro, s24u/s25u, pixel 10 pro, pixel 9 pro xl, xiaomi ultra 15

[hollow kettle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fluid-motion-frames-3-afmf3-has-been-spotted-in-drivers-files

[plucky quail]

Afmf now with ai?

[tawny thicket]

who knows
maybe itll actually look decent now

[hollow kettle]

From what I read they are trying to match Nvidia Smooth Motion quality. I have never used smooth motion so idk how much better it is than AFMF 2.1. Either way, I am always excited for new features 😆

[hollow kettle]

Also, have you got fsr4 working on your 7900xtx yet ? Or have you tried it I should say

[wheat perch]

Anyone runs a recommendable 5080?

[plucky quail]

Yes and its the best over all the other Upscaler. Least in the games that have Bad TAA

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqGqj2bFj8

Intel Fixing the overhead problem. Good for Intel 👍🏼

[hazy arch]

I saw.

[tawny thicket]

Not fixed just better

[plucky quail]

Fixing*

[celest ridge]

For me, kind of 'light' grass/tree flickering appears when I increase Sharpness setting in the graphic settings. I find 50% sharpness the be optimal, but would like to set it higher. Swapping to latest DLSS makes it much worse. FG, DLAA.

[nimble nexus]

more bang for buck

[nimble nexus]

I would go for the Nord 4 Plus... I got mine for £300 GBP... and better than most phones around £600 - £800 bracket

[cunning talon]

Do you know how to enable AMD Super Resolution on cachyos?

[tawny thicket]

RSR ?

i think that's only available on windows drivers

But RSR is just FSR 1
So i don't think its very important

[hazy arch]

No I don't. I don't even know if resizable bar is switched on. It's on in bios,but if the resources are properly use... Now idea.

[ionic remnant]

Bro's the biggest hater

Afmf 2.1 looks really good

I am actually surprised its better than smooth motion

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoN6D1roXM

Best YTer of tech

[tawny thicket]

Hell no

Looking at frames generated by it gives me diereah

FSR FG is 10 times better
XeFG is 12 times better

[ionic remnant]

Maybe ur gpu is too weak to handle it

It looks super good on 7900XTX

[plucky quail]

Real.

You cant even compare a Driverlvl FG to a coded FG. Those are 2 diff things. you always gonna see the UI move bit or have some area move cuz it cant handle it.

Not every game is made for it or is bugged.
Always used in War thunder for Power efficiency till 2.1 where it got somehow bugged in that game. Now its Unusable.

[ionic remnant]

In stalker it was good

Lossless scaling on the other hand (last time i tried was 2.1)
Was meh much worse than afmf 2.1

[tawny thicket]

What you mean to say it looks good enough to not see at full speed when you are FG ing from above 60

Record it and slow the footage down and you'll see it 100%

Anyway, what you are looking at is 72hz monitor cope

[ionic remnant]

I had 165 fps with frame gen capped to my monitor

And wdym slow it down

Its like saying upscaling is bad because if you pause and zoom 400% you see a difference

If you dont see it without zooming its not a prob

[tawny thicket]

no its not
also what you are looking at is 72hz monitor cope treat it as such

[ionic remnant]

Ur monitor is 72hz ?

[tawny thicket]

yes

well, 60hz monitor OC-ed to 72 by freesync

might not seem like much but 36 to 72 FG is fine to me
while 30 to 60 FG always feels off (IDK what it is but it just does)

[tawny thicket]

with integrated FG anyway
AFMF 2.1 is unplayable at such framerates

[ionic remnant]

Its time to get a 240hz one

1440p oled as well

If dlss get a massive performance update and frame gen gets better

I might get a 4k monitor in order to upscale from 1080p on dlss perf

[plucky quail]

Real. 4K looks more like a must over 1440P if you gonna need to upscale anyway.

[plucky quail]

Who does FG under 30FPS. Thats like Upscaling from 360P

[plucky quail]

And even without the Quality of 4K is unmatched

[ionic remnant]

Frame gen is genuinely a good thing but not now, but when all gpus can pull 150+ fps without FG on all games

And you want to push to 240-360+ hz

And it probably needs to improve still, with the hit to base fps and the input lag

FG shouldnt be used to make the game "playable" cz it wont

Its more you already have 200 fps and got a monitor that has 720hz in the far future
And want to push higher

[plucky quail]

IDK about that, FG is useless if you go that far. You can play without it. I only use it between 60 and 80FPS and thats depending on the game too.

[ionic remnant]

Yea but it feels meh when u use it at 60 fps

Hope they can fix it tho

[ionic remnant]

Its because your base fps is gonna get a hit, so really you'd be playing at 40 fps

If they find a way so that the base fps doesnt take a hit, it'd be cool

[plucky quail]

True but it also makes it much better like in Stalker over having 60AVG and 52 1% low.

[tawny thicket]

under 30 ?
no one sane or knowing that FG is actually happening

[plucky quail]

And depending on the game too

[ionic remnant]

Have you tried

Both enabling the frame gen inside the game + afmf 2.1 ? Free fps

[plucky quail]

MFG

[tawny thicket]

oh not this again

[tawny thicket]

at least its better than nukams DL-FG to FSR "MFG"

cuz that just sucks totall ass

AFMF 2.1 30 to 60 > nukams "MfG" 60 to "240"

[tawny thicket]

(FSR FG + AFMF >>>>>> nukams "mFg")

[ionic remnant]

Its actually not bad yea

So hyped to see afmf 3.0 with ai fsr fg

Might see amd pull ahead of nvidia for once

[coarse linden]

Tbh i dont see much point in these driver framegens

[plucky quail]

Power efficiency

[coarse linden]

Lack of motion vectors just make it unusable except for some emulator use

Wasted effort really

All modern games have fsr/dlss already and you dont need it for older games

[coarse linden]

I saw that thumbs up! You cant just take it away from me

[tawny thicket]

well..
ASE still runs like garbage, so it could be usefull there

(ASE is the OG UE4 version of ARK btw)

[coarse linden]

Never had issues with it even with my obsolete pc

[tawny thicket]

shit my 9060 XT was struggling to hit 60fps at 1080p (native) was mostly at 50fps

[coarse linden]

Tho it is abysmally blurry even for UE4

[tawny thicket]

tho somehow 4K was getting like 40fps

so weird

[plucky quail]

Not the forever games tho

[tawny thicket]

im not even sure its using TAA BTW
the amount of shimmering there is on screen at all times is INSANE

[coarse linden]

Its ue4 game it is absolutely using TAA

[tawny thicket]

i cant walk 2 meters without everysingle tree shimmering like Stutter 2 without TAA

[coarse linden]

You need to stab configs to get rid of it

And as is with all UE garbage it takes out post processing with it making game look even more ass

[tawny thicket]

okay, mayhaps but i couldnt see any ghosting somehow..

allready deleted it tho so i cant check again

[coarse linden]

Miss times when there was like 10 different AA solutions and Nvidia and AMD competing to invent next solution lol

Naturally both locking it behind their own stuff

[coarse linden]

Does not stutter at all now with 9800X3D

[tawny thicket]

that fan remake is mighty impressive damn
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wYokRSdPs70

[coarse linden]

Almost shame since that stutter wass telltale sign of patrol or monsters spawning near by

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[tawny thicket]

the 9800X3D is secretely converting every game to vulkan 🤣

[coarse linden]

Vulkan is the savior of all DX9 - DX11 games lol

[plucky quail]

I hope Vulkan gets back on many games. They have just a better API

[tawny thicket]

*DXVK : )

[tawny thicket]

yeah
vulkan makes UE5 stutters much better
IIRC my 1% lows were 50% better on vulkan than DX12 in satisfactory

[tawny thicket]

well
its less stuttery in general

i would also love if UE5 was on vulkan but one can dream

[plucky quail]

DX12 Destroyed so many games for me that never had problems and just the switch to DX12 made them st-stutter fest

[tawny thicket]

well
back on my 6600 gonna try with my 9060 XT

[tawny thicket]

sadly Satisfactory mods dont work with vulkan : (

and FSR 4 doesnt work on vulkan yet : (

[coarse linden]

That is mostly developers fault

Well not really mostly but it is

Which is why developers hate it because they have to do all the work instead dumping into Nvidia/AMD drivers lap

Vulkan is not any better on that aspect but what its got going for is that nerds that love linux just have passion for it lol

And eagerness to make it work since they love pain in the ass

[tawny thicket]

okaz, well, NOT 50% lol
1080p FSR 75% (aka:balanced) ultra preset lumen set to high (+everything else maxxed) W Vulkan
factory benchmark

50fps avg -20%
38fps 1% +26%
27fps 0.1% +3%

1080p FSR 75% (aka:balanced) ultra preset lumen set to high (+everything else maxxed) W DX 12
factory benchmark

60fps avg
30fps 1%
26fps 0.1%

[coarse linden]

Balanced?

[tawny thicket]

satisfactory has diferent upscaling ratios
quality = 90%
balanced = 75%
performance = 60%
and native AA is called "no downscaling"

[plucky quail]

Some devs are at fault but Vulkan is still the better API by long. Much more stable in any game i ever played. Its just that good. And early 2019 i think was where they got implementation like DX12

[coarse linden]

Pretty sure balanced is 59% screen resolution officially

[plucky quail]

Is it a Extra setting or are you emulating Vulkan

[tawny thicket]

its 58%
Q should be 67% (well 66.66666...)
UQ should be 76%
P should be 50% (43 for XeSS)
UP should be 33%

[ionic remnant]

Whats the fps diff between fsr and dlss rn
Which one has better perf (not visuals)

[plucky quail]

Depending on what GPU but i thin on the newest Nvidia hast still nose in front

[tawny thicket]

DLSS 4 magically gives a bigger boost than FSR 4
even though FSR 4 is technically cheaper (in a frametime ms metric)

[coarse linden]

Its up to developer how well they utilize the API. No longer can they just dump it on drivers lap so it is 100% devs fault

[plucky quail]

2 diff FP8 Performance lvl. Nvidia has Huge AI performance this gen

[plucky quail]

Then somehow every Dev must be Incompetent

[tawny thicket]

theres a setting for vulkan in SF
though i think the devs said that they just converted DX 12 to vulkan without putting much work into it so its compromised vulkan
probably why it runs worse on avarage

[coarse linden]

I mean old breed just outright refused to learn it and spoke against it

[plucky quail]

But we are already in the 10th year. A decade. We need to have some Uncs.

[coarse linden]

Yeah and they still release DX11 games

[plucky quail]

Cant remember a game that has DX11 now

[coarse linden]

Still you can see how some devs not implementing dx12 correctly

resulting stutters

[plucky quail]

If devs cant work with DX12 and its that hard after 10 Years to dev a game with that then Microsoft should look how Vulkan makes a easier API than their self.

[mighty barn]

if your system is not working for 99% of developers, you should start reconsidering your system

[coarse linden]

Why would they? DX is basically industry standard