pc-specs

[ionic remnant]

5090 perf trust

[pure ibex]

It’s 2 years away

6090

[ionic remnant]

at 999$ 999 eur

1.5 no ?

[pure ibex]

Who knows

We can only hope and pray

The x1950 xtx has yet to see his true successor

The once mighty king

[ionic remnant]

they should also make it draw as much as it wants with 3x power connectors

[pure ibex]

Nah

4 power connectors

[ionic remnant]

like the 6900XT peak drawing 636 W and 7900xtx drawing 530W

[pure ibex]

Make that bitch like a fucken asus ares

[ionic remnant]

only way to beat the shet outa nvidia

[pure ibex]

For context

The x1950 xtx was on its own faster than the dual chip 7950 gx2

Was a monster

I’m cautiously hyped about a statement made about potential dual chip arc gpus

I’d switch instantly if I ever materialized

[ionic remnant]

Someone lives in europe and knows how to shunt mod, come do it to my 5070Ti

[ionic remnant]

Huh

[pure ibex]

Was a giant die for the time

[plucky quail]

No way its 11GB else with a 4070S i woulnt have had Texture pop

With DLSSQ

[coarse linden]

And yet it is just that

[past escarp]

Nitro+ rx 7800xt

[plucky quail]

Hell hound has only 2 power and has the worst Coilwhine i ever heard. But it was also the cheapest one out there without buying the Ref modle.

[ionic remnant]

Yep, i think mine was a returned card or something

Just got unlucky and didnt know it

[pure ibex]

Ah ok

[plucky quail]

? i coulnt play with 1440p cuz i was getting 5FPS bug that nvidia gpus have

Also it was offloading in to the Ram

[ionic remnant]

Thats the old dlss maybe ?

[plucky quail]

I used DLSS4

[ionic remnant]

Maybe its the FP4 doff

50 series calculate dlss with fp4 not fp8
If i am not messing up the numbers

[tawny thicket]

FP4 wouldnt magically effect VRAM usage in the tune of Gigabytes

[plucky quail]

IDK how DLSS would also use that much extra Vram

[ionic remnant]

Ah thats true

Idk then

[plucky quail]

Also watched 4090 CP77 videos and they reach 1440P 15GB usage(Ultra RT not even PT)

[tawny thicket]

it doesnt.
no upscaler does
upscalers are all in the tune of megabytes in usage
(kilobytes even possibly)

[plucky quail]

I mean the hole thing of nvidia and less Vram is cuz you can lower your res with DLSS and use less vram with it.

[tawny thicket]

i dont think thats all

i distinctly remember a daniel owen video comparing VRAM usage on RDNA 3 to ADA (both 8GB cards)

[ionic remnant]

Its ok bro, fsr skill diff

But seriously which one uses less ?

[tawny thicket]

the last time i flicked through
TSR,XeSS,FSR 3.1,TAA they were all the same

[ionic remnant]

Honestly hopefully with the new 3gb modules i hope we will never have to think about vram agaib

[plucky quail]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

I hope too to the 2017 era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBICEH4iOUM

Next 5090 gone from this world and almost got the rest too

[ionic remnant]

The 80 cards NEED to go back to 384 memory bus

[plucky quail]

F in the chat for the 44th 5090 that we lost of the 69 we had.

[ionic remnant]

Omg

I just realized they actually announced they gonna update the engine for stalker

When do you guys think it will release cant wait

[plucky quail]

last minute on the december 31st 23:59

[ionic remnant]

They said this year ?

[plucky quail]

Yea 25

[ionic remnant]

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pricing-leaks/

They fkin with me

[plucky quail]

HAHAHA

[ionic remnant]

The 5080 Super will be such a good buy
Rip opportunity

[plucky quail]

I knew it lol Pleb too.

[ionic remnant]

999 usd

[plucky quail]

I guess they they knew that its going to be bad if it cost too much

Like the 4080 Price was

[ionic remnant]

Oh well

[ebon epoch]

Around q2 26

Though we don't know how far ahead they are on the porting process so it could be feasible that it would be within 3 months

[plucky quail]

How would the 5080 be better. Still 15% for 30% more money and same Vram amount

[ionic remnant]

5080 Super will be like 20-25% more and more vram

For like 25% more in terms of price

like the 5070ti remains a decent buy at 790 eur for a top model but still

would have prefered paying 1000 eur and get 5080 super

[ebon epoch]

I refuse paying that much for a gpu

like, if I'm going anywhere near 4 digits, I better be getting like, top-of-the-line shit

Like I know it's not like we have a ton of choice as consumers but jesus christ, how are they asking 800 bucks for "pretty good" spec

paid 300 bucks for a 3070 in the middle of the crypto craze, and back then it was a solid performer on the lineup

[plucky quail]

Did i read wrong? both going to get 24GB vram and core count stays the same with just a power increase on both sides. Only diff is that 5080 becomes 5w more wattage increase.
Core can be higher clocked but even then getting 10% more out of it i kinda doubt it with 5070TI Super getting also Clock increase keep in mind

[ionic remnant]

55 more wattage not 5

[plucky quail]

Not more than 5070TIS

50w on 5070TIS and 55W on the 5080S

[ionic remnant]

yea with 50W more they can push the clock speeds like 10-15%

but yea i guess i could OC mine and it's nearly the same just less vram

[plucky quail]

The same way you can OC 5070TI Su

[ionic remnant]

probably less OC headroom but yea

[plucky quail]

Prob even more cuz %ige its more for the 70tis

[ionic remnant]

sadness and sorrow

[hollow kettle]

GSC is updating stalker 2 to UE 5.4. I wonder why not 5.6? I think that is the latest

[plucky quail]

what its 5.5

[ebon epoch]

it's 5.5.4 because it probably was the highest version available when they started the porting process

and seeing how well the port from 4 to 5.1 mid development went, I hope they've learned their lesson about gambling on the very latest available.

[spare coral]

They said 5.6 wasnt impossible too soooo maybe later they could make another jump to 5.6 but for now 5.5.4 is a great upgrade

[tawny thicket]

by the point that they could consider upgrading the engine again 5.8 (or even later versions) would already be out.

[hollow kettle]

Huh the video i saw the guy said 5.4 I guess 5.5 makes a little more sense

[spare coral]

You could always check #📰┃announcement instead

[ebon epoch]

imagine getting information out of primary sources

[late ferry]

opiumaniac has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse linden]

Heh.. Samsung launched MicroLED tv in korea. 32,000 dollars for 115" TV

One could say progress because previous model cost 110,000 dollars

Oh wait its not actually MicroLED but some bastard version of it lol

God i hate Samsung and LG for making these BS terms and trying obfuscate what tech they are actually selling

[ionic remnant]

Pleb i am sad

It was leaked 5080 Super is 999 msrp
Shoulda waited

[ionic remnant]

I want it to get more affordable so that oled becomes cheaper

[ionic remnant]

fk it imma keep my card still a very good deal, cant keep following the trends, every 12 months there is a new card

i genuinely am highly doubtful that the cards are going to cost the same / sometimes rumors to cost less

just checked 4070ti w 4070ti super only had 9% perf difference that is with 1000 cores more

[ionic remnant]

No longer sadge, now just angry at ngreedia

is liquid metal thermal paste worth it on a gpu ?
cz if i am gonna open the gpu might as well go all out, liquid metal thermal paste, adding thermal pads on vrms, vram and shunting

[plucky quail]

I did play one round with riva and BF6 in rush in newyork. I have a CPU powerlimited CPU PL1 and 2 are 120W and withould FSRB i am GPU limited tho that thing uses 50W less to

[plucky quail]

Yea no it doesnt work I can get it to 237 FPS with FSR UP but i still get half of the time GPU limited. No way this game is so Hard on the GPU.

[worn jay]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-desktop-pc-market-share-hits-a-new-high-as-server-gains-slow-down-intel-now-only-outsells-amd-2-1-down-from-9-1-a-few-years-ago

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/n5fjth53u59QMnLCgwvcLS-970-80.png

While unit-wise Intel continues to outsell AMD in the desktop PC market, this is where AMD boasts spectacular gains. In Q2 2025, AMD’s desktop CPU unit share rose to 32.2%, a gain of 4.2% sequentially and a robust 9.2% YoY. For Intel, the Q2 2025 desktop CPU unit share stood at 67.8%, down both QoQ and YoY, which means that Intel now outsells AMD 2:1, down from 8:2 in 2023 and 9:1 in 2016 – 2018.

[plucky quail]

Well good job AMD 🍷

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyubzqb-VuY

I cant. This dude is saying some asset failure on the AMD CPU.

[tawny thicket]

clown chasers

"optimiyation course" WTF

bro isnt even using a proper benchmark overlay

[hollow kettle]

I saw leak price that it is going to be $1149 for 5080 super
$849 for 5070ti super
$599 for 5070 super

Not sure if it is true but sounds about right from Nvidia

[ionic remnant]

that's what i think as well, same price for 5070ti super sounds hella weird for 50% more vram

[nimble nexus]

You wont know what the price is, until it is released.

[ionic remnant]

yea fk it i am keeping my 5070ti

gonna oc it to the max, it has 345W power limit

[plucky quail]

(Think about the 400w on the super duper extreme 👹 OC to 3.2ghz)

[ionic remnant]

i already OCed the PNY 5070ti to 3.2ghz

[plucky quail]

3.4

[plucky quail]

Stable?

[ionic remnant]

yea

but didnt try raytracing, i just did benchamrks and played the games i play

then i did 3.1ghz on 975mv
also did +3000mhz on memory

the 5070Ti has insane OC

it has the most headroom in all the 50 series, and 9000 amd series

[ionic remnant]

i tried 3.2ghz at 975mv but it crashed twice, it runs normally and then when u go hard it crashes

[tropic bobcat]

Okay but what is the performance difference? Those numbers are irrelevant.

I can crank my 7900 XTX to 3.5Ghz, but that doesn’t much matter.

[ionic remnant]

You get 10% more fps

[tropic bobcat]

You’ve tested this then? That’s below average actually.

[ionic remnant]

Literally, go read any techpowerup review
Go to the OC section

[tropic bobcat]

I’d expect closer to fifteen percent. That’s a little disappointing.

[ionic remnant]

They reviewed like 5 5070Tis

All of which got insane OC

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-amp-extreme/44.html

Went from 83.5 fps to 94 fps

And he did robust OC but did not push the card to the max btw

So 12.5% vs base card
10.5% vs the card itself

[tropic bobcat]

Thats a little better.

10% is a little low, 12% is about standard.

[ionic remnant]

so lucky, my old 7900xtx could barely oc

[tropic bobcat]

Well, that gives like a 0% performance gain.

[tropic bobcat]

https://i.imgur.com/L8GnxOo.png

this is what I have mine set to.

[pure ibex]

Cus your power limited

You need to unlock the power limit

[tropic bobcat]

No, bc clockspeed doesnt affct performance much on a lot of cards, increasing power limit reduces clockspeeds.

[pure ibex]

That’s literally none sense

[tropic bobcat]

It not but ok.

[pure ibex]

Radeons will sap power from vram to core

So performance doesn’t change

Why you need unlocked power limit

So it doesn’t do that

[tropic bobcat]

I'm thinking 420w is enough, buddy.

[pure ibex]

It’s not

[tropic bobcat]

Them you have a skill issue.

[pure ibex]

7900 xtx wants to draw nearly 700 watts

[tropic bobcat]

No thanks, it already kicks my breakers sometimes.

[pure ibex]

What kinda kick sauce breakers you got

[tropic bobcat]

the really old kind

[pure ibex]

They should still be good for like 1800 watts or so

[tropic bobcat]

yeah, by itself, but when your running an air fryer, multiple air conditoners, and other stuff not so much.

[pure ibex]

Why is that all on one circuit

[tropic bobcat]

ask the builders.

[pure ibex]

Did a lobotomite design your house

[tropic bobcat]

maybe.

[ionic remnant]

do i need to uninstall completely my 5070ti driver

before installing the new 5070ti card

[tropic bobcat]

You can if you want, realistically it should be the same since it’s the same card though.

[worn jay]

^ this
this is why 9070 when bios flash to 9070 XT , it gets to 9070 XT performance because of power draw

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYteLD--pw

Riva is here to help

[tropic bobcat]

We already established I’m not power limited lmao.

[pure ibex]

You literally are though

As I already said

That gpu wants to draw nearly 700 watts to hit clocks like that

And have them actually translate to performance

[plucky quail]

I want that my GPU hits 4GHz ill take 700W if needed

[spare coral]

That is what someone power limited would say!!!

[tropic bobcat]

Like what, exactly?

[pure ibex]

As I already explained the gpu will reduce power to vram to clock higher

Equally net zero performance gain

[tropic bobcat]

Not what I asked, but ok.

Also, wasnt the point I was making up there.

[pure ibex]

3.6ghz 3.5

[tropic bobcat]

https://i.imgur.com/h7Eyvwp.png

this is the point im making

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/ySxNdg13y9A?feature=shared

[tropic bobcat]

crank it as high as you want, its never gonna reach those speeds because of other limitations anyway.

[pure ibex]

Yah primarily power

[tropic bobcat]

heat.

[pure ibex]

All I hear is excuses

[tropic bobcat]

or physics

[tropic bobcat]

yes, as I antipicated hes on liquid.

[plucky quail]

I find my GPU power Limited. It Can go higher but it only gets 400W so it doesnt go over 3050mhz

[tropic bobcat]

most chips are not fully unlocked per se.

the 7900xtx in raw can just about match a 4090, but it uses too much power so AMD reduced it. It wasn't realistic for AMD to sell a consumer GPU during that time that uses over 600W.

[pure ibex]

Dude that’s lame and also gay

[tropic bobcat]

I mean on paper it smokes a 4080 and 4080 Super.

[pure ibex]

Give me that shit NOW

[tropic bobcat]

Yeah, but it makes sense, always has.

Plus you've got the cooling aspect. 7900 XTX already runs hot as is.

[plucky quail]

Man we should have gotten the 7990XTX

[pure ibex]

7950xtx

[plucky quail]

4 Slot GPU with 500W

[pure ibex]

Taken too soon

[tropic bobcat]

I would of bought it.

[plucky quail]

Me too

A thing that can beat the 4090 in raster

[tropic bobcat]

XTX could of been so much better.

not that it isnt great, mind you. I love mine.

[pure ibex]

Tbh though

It wasn’t the time

[plucky quail]

Doesnt matter they either called it 90XTX or 50XTX

[pure ibex]

The tech under the hood wasn’t up to par yet

[tropic bobcat]

ahem UDNA anyone?

please amd, I beg. 9070 XT isn't enough.

[pure ibex]

9070xt is just the stepping stone

[tropic bobcat]

real.

[pure ibex]

The storm is coming we just gotta wait

[plucky quail]

And if they ever did go through with the FSR 3 ML version we would have beast in the hand of many.

[plucky quail]

Its the block for the UDNA that will follow their sacrifice of the top end

[pure ibex]

Like

The leap in tech from 7900 xtx to 9070 xt is massive

And the 9070 xt die is like half the size

[tropic bobcat]

Imagine a UDNA die the size of the 7900XTX’s? What the fuck?

[pure ibex]

It beats a 3090 in rt and raster

Which for how tiny the die is

Is a massive achievement

[tropic bobcat]

That would be cracked out.

[pure ibex]

I mean it does

[worn jay]

he is always dense btw

[tropic bobcat]

Can you not?

[worn jay]

600w for sure

[tropic bobcat]

Anyway, imagine a 9070 XT die the size of the 7900 XTX’s?

[plucky quail]

Nvidia burn 3.0 version

[worn jay]

''didnt insert card into pcie properly"

[pure ibex]

Now that would be a monster

Quad 8 pins

[tropic bobcat]

Please AMD, I beg.

[worn jay]

"consumer fault"

[pure ibex]

[tropic bobcat]

Do I look upset about that?

[plucky quail]

I need it

[plucky quail]

make it a City heater 🙂

[worn jay]

"The heatsphere"

[tropic bobcat]

I’d buy it in five seconds.

[plucky quail]

https://tenor.com/view/fry-shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-gif-11820664

[pure ibex]

They could use 5 id still buy it

[tropic bobcat]

Same.

[worn jay]

just have close to top tier performance, power draw doesnt matter at that tier

[tropic bobcat]

I’d daily that mf too. There’s a reason I bought the 7900 XTX over the 4080/S.

[plucky quail]

real but i would need a PSU upgrade from my 1200W

[tropic bobcat]

I doubt that.

[plucky quail]

IDK how that going to happen

[worn jay]

https://wccftech.com/ryzen-5-5500x3d-benchmarked-on-passmark/
AM4 alive 2025 bingo card

[pure ibex]

X10950 xtx

If they don’t make it

That would be a crime

The x1950 xtx didn’t die for this

Honor its legacy

[plucky quail]

If they are head to head with Nvidia i bet they will

[worn jay]

poll about raster where

[plucky quail]

If you are already with RT at the 5090 i guess you dont need a poll about it

[pure ibex]

The x1950 xtx was basically a final send off from ati before being assimilated

They upgraded it with gddr4

To retake its performance crown from Nvidia

[tawny thicket]

which next gen GPU ?

[tawny thicket]

5090 😎

[Hopium and copium ]

[pure ibex]

Perhaps the x10950 xtx can be upgraded with hbm

Not really that’d be dumb

[worn jay]

10700 XT give me 5090 raster dawg

[plucky quail]

How do i konw what the performacne of the GPUs are 😭

[worn jay]

crystal ball

[tawny thicket]

you guess
easy.

[pure ibex]

Hard to say

https://tenor.com/view/1984-george-orwell-george-orwell-1984-1984-chips-1984-ruffles-gif-7144052804264359069

Don’t know anything about it yet

[worn jay]

biggest arch since GCN change supposedly

[tawny thicket]

exactly
thats what makes it fun.

[plucky quail]

I mean if they want to beat Nvidia they gonna try 6090 LVL but the same they wanted to have with the 7900XTX

[pure ibex]

Amd has dominated Intel so hard the company is ready to fracture into pieces

They can do it

They destroyed the indestructible empire

[plucky quail]

This gen gonna be a send off for the battle against Intel and Nvidia strike both with CPU and GPUs

[tawny thicket]

some poles before RDNA 4 launch

what will the 8800 XT perform like in Raster? (AKA 9070 XT)
#pc-specs message
what will the 8800 XT (AKA 9070 XT) perform like in RT?
#pc-specs message
how fast will the 870- i meant 9070 XT be in RT ?
#pc-specs message
how fast will the 870- i meant 9070 XT be in RT ?
#pc-specs message

[pure ibex]

Nvidia CPUs won’t ever be for consumers

They are exclusive for servers

[worn jay]

jensen: if u pair our 1000$ cpu with our 4000$ gpu u gain extra 30% fps

[plucky quail]

Wow it even beat out expectation

[worn jay]

amd/intel market share: 1% cus jensen aura

[pure ibex]

The cracks are starting to show in the nvidia empire

[plucky quail]

Pray that AMD does this again

[worn jay]

needs to fire their marketing team for radeon and they win

[pure ibex]

Not to mention amd basically instantly jumped 2 generations of rt in one generation

[plucky quail]

AMD: We do that but cheaper

[pure ibex]

It doesn’t have to be cheaper

I WANT IT TO BE BETTER

[tawny thicket]

[meanwhile after jensen retires] Nividia market share loss year over year: 2%

[pure ibex]

He retires and power vr finally wakes up

[plucky quail]

I dont want to live in a world where we pay 4000 for a gpu that only gives 30% more over last gen

[pure ibex]

Me neither

But if they make a better product

I’ll pay more for it

[worn jay]

yall forgot about intel druid celestial

[pure ibex]

Yah intel might come out with multi gpu

And if they do

I’m buying

[worn jay]

b60 is a multi gpu but for workstation only u can get right now

[pure ibex]

Give me dual chip gaming gpus or give me death

It’s been 25 years

[worn jay]

https://www.maxsun.com/products/intel-arc-pro-b60-dual-48g-turbo

[pure ibex]

It’s been long enough

[worn jay]

maliketh: DEATH??

[tawny thicket]

meanwhile intel: ⚰️ 👻

[worn jay]

firing pat top 5 mistakes by the board

invested like 100 billion on fabs just to be cut

[plucky quail]

Sweet

[pure ibex]

Brother the original king gave us hardware scales multi gpu

It’s about time it comes back

[tawny thicket]

top 1 mistake of the board: underestimating AMD

[pure ibex]

Build fabs with the most dog shit yields of all time

[tawny thicket]

lol

[worn jay]

funny enough 14900k tuned is super close to 9800x3d
nova lake if they fix all their flaws it will be some good competition

[pure ibex]

Guys it gets like 5 percent positive yields

So good bro…

Fucken peak bro

SO GOOD BRO

WHY DONT YOU WANNA BUY

[tawny thicket]

jezus crhist

[pure ibex]

Tsmc gets better yields in preproduction typically

I could explain why cus I know I built the machines

[worn jay]

https://www.club386.com/tsmc-may-manufacture-the-majority-of-nova-lake-cpus-as-intel-18a-concerns-grow/

[pure ibex]

Intel is like what if we used 20 plus year old tech to make flagship nodes

Man this is really hard what the heck

[worn jay]

in the end go back to 14nm+++++++++++++++++ the ol goat

[pure ibex]

That happened because there dog shit fab tools

[plucky quail]

Intel still going to use their fabs for i5s

18A

[pure ibex]

They struggled making 10900k CPUs and eventually discontinued it entirely

Because of yield issues

[tawny thicket]

AMD uses intel manufacturing for some of their Chips: ugh, donald, i hate you, whats so wrong with taiwan anyway, now we get crappy yields
meanwhile intel spy's copying AMD's CPU design: *nothing to see here *

[worn jay]

nova lake—will also be partly produced by TSMC.

TSMC began accepting 2nm orders in April, with trial production yields reaching 60%, signaling the company’s readiness for full-scale manufacturing, as noted by Wccftech.

Samsung has also been making progress on its 2nm yields. According to South Korean outlet Business Post, the company is focused on improving yields to stabilize 2nm production. Early trial runs this year showed yields around 30%, which have reportedly recently exceeded 40%.

Even samsung better than intel now and they were a disaster for some time

[pure ibex]

They are trying with v cache

Nova lake will have v cache

[tawny thicket]

cool

[plucky quail]

2 CCD V cache 🙂

[pure ibex]

Why amd is dropping the act

And reserved tsmc flag ship node

[worn jay]

zen 6 = copying intels e cores
nova lake = copying amd vcache

[plucky quail]

AMD prob doing the same. TAKE MY MONEY

[pure ibex]

Nah

No e cores

But 10 core ccds

[worn jay]

Zen C cores

[tawny thicket]

what im really interested in are those cinebench accelarators, cuz they really help with background apps you know.
how many are we getting again ? 40+ ??!??!?!?!

[worn jay]

rumor mill said 12

[pure ibex]

12 even better

[worn jay]

[pure ibex]

Then again they also said 7ghz

Which seems totally insane

[worn jay]

10800x3D 12 cores 6.5 GHZ

[pure ibex]

But who knows

[worn jay]

2 node jumps gonna be big

[tawny thicket]

at least they arent putting in 30 OF THEM

[plucky quail]

I have nothing against C cores but if they dont get more P cores on the CCD i am going to cry AMD 🙏🏼

[worn jay]

if u didnt do research on it they have same IPC and everything
essentially better E cores but no access to cache

[pure ibex]

Far as I’ve heard amd isn’t doing the e cores

Why bother

[tawny thicket]

yeah, i know that

[plucky quail]

To counter bad OS from Windows

[worn jay]

https://external-preview.redd.it/amd-announces-zen-4c-cores-coming-to-ryzen-laptops-v0-a53GUV9f1MUaGKx-dR2tYe_xofOareng8684IPHz_3o.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=97bf68999ecc131e94b8f1eaccb5fad6c5404ca8

[tawny thicket]

i thought MLID said it was gonna have a couple C-cores on the IOD 🤔

[pure ibex]

Maybe on laptop

I don’t think on desktop

It’s so frustrating that amd is still slow to get adopted on laptop

There laptop stuff is goated

[plucky quail]

Intel and its "fair" competition

[pure ibex]

They are very under handed with there license deals

Which is very sad

[worn jay]

intel still hard dominating laptop market probably connections

[worn jay]

Recent marketshare AMD took huge chunk of desktop market, 9800x3d ofc goated

[plucky quail]

Like the NAS

[worn jay]

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/n5fjth53u59QMnLCgwvcLS.png
since start of 2024 intel on a fast downhill

[plucky quail]

AMD going to party the moment they reach 50/50

[worn jay]

in 4 years it will be 50-50% if they keep this up

[pure ibex]

Ati would be proud

[plucky quail]

in 4 years we gonna be 75% with this tend

[worn jay]

i dont think it will be this dominant , 2024-2025 were a disaster for intel
they will get some sales for nova lake but still lose i predict in the end

instead of 5% per quarter it will be like 1% or smth for AMD

[pure ibex]

They may win in the short term

Until zen6 drops and shatters their knee caps

[worn jay]

10600X = 9800x3d
have my babies

[pure ibex]

Doubt

V cache is too op

[worn jay]

they went from 5600 to 7600
4.4 to 5.1ghz 2 node jumps
i believe it will be the same for this one

[plucky quail]

Intel cant keep up with this so who ever looses next gen there will be one group that will only win and that is me any you as consumer 🙂

[worn jay]

amd stays dominant but not too dominant cus price goes ^^^

[plucky quail]

https://www.galaxus.de/de/s1/product/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-2-x-16gb-6400-mhz-ddr5-ram-dimm-ram-18510367

Yall say this here is good?

[worn jay]

y

[pure ibex]

Get a 48 gig kit

Be a Chad

48 gig supremacy

[plucky quail]

Maybe AM6

But till now I don’t see any game going over 30gb and not going to till then

[pure ibex]

Trust me just do it

It’s only a little bit more money for same performance

And more ram

[worn jay]

AM6 ddr6

[plucky quail]

[pure ibex]

10ghz memory will finally be here

Just like download more ram predicted

[tropic bobcat]

Depends if Intel can keep their contracts going.

[tropic bobcat]

CAMM2 can already do this though not commercially available.

[pure ibex]

Camm2 is huge

[tropic bobcat]

Like deez nuts, yep yep.

[pure ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-we-used-to-kill-people-with-hammers-for-saying-things-like-that-kill-people-with-hammers-hammers-gif-28854509168023063

[tropic bobcat]

Appropriate response tbh.

[pure ibex]

Don’t worry buddy I would never

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5pyLavnlsY

Interesting 🤔 Sadly I only have a 7900XTX and since you only really loose the GPU bound thing is with a 4090 on BF6. And i already 230-200FPS. I guess with AMD driver and DX12 you could get much better FPS sadly we dont have a 7950XTX

[tropic bobcat]

only a 7900 XTX.

[plucky quail]

You know what i mean. I am no Pro benchmarker that is getting send 4090s and 5090s for testing.

[tropic bobcat]

I wish I was tbh.

[plucky quail]

I wish i would get the next gen AMD flagship GPU

[tropic bobcat]

I'm going to. Period.

For now I bide my time.

By that point I'll hopefully be drawing them military salaries.

[plucky quail]

[tawny thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbdPNxe7O_I

[plucky quail]

.

[ionic remnant]

how are you my bros

hope you enjoy your weekend

[hollow kettle]

Bf6 beta is beautiful. I max it out and easy hit my refresh rate 180 at 1440p

[hollow kettle]

I cant believe how good 980ti runs bf6 in zworm video yesterday

[tropic bobcat]

It’s been really fun for me, they need to work on frametime though.

[real kraken]

And they will continue to optimize it

[coarse linden]

If only maps werent so abysmal on it

[ionic remnant]

it doesnt have dlss yet right

that's how games should be, dlss should be the extra they add at the end, same for frame gen

[tawny thicket]

it does though

[tough patrol]

incredible, a new AAA game is optimised
remind me why this isn't the standard again?

[ionic remnant]

If it was nvidia wouldnt be able to sell gpus anymore

I genuinely think if all games were optimized something around the 7800XT or 7900GRE

Should be able to run any game

Max settings 1440p

Remember when 1080ti was a 4k card

[tawny thicket]

today its more like a 720p card

[ionic remnant]

1440p oled dlss quality or 4k oled with dlss perf

i will probably have to make this decision in like 6 months

[tough patrol]

genuinely cannot wait for the engine update

[ionic remnant]

yea really hyped as well

[tough patrol]

my laptop's right on the edge of JUST not being able to comfortably run 1440p and have 60fps, so i'm happy that i'll probably get into that when it comes out
right now i'm running dlss balanced with a low preset and no frame gen, about 60-70 fps at 1080p
it looks mmmehh, but with dlss swapper it looks fine and it runs well, plus 0 input lag which is almost a must for me

[ionic remnant]

whats your laptop specs if i may ask

[tough patrol]

13th gen i7 and a 4060

32gb of ram and 1tb of storage but that don't matter

it's an msi stealth studio 14 that i got for a silly good discount

[ionic remnant]

pretty good

[tough patrol]

yeah exactly, it's serving me well
kinda essential to use a cooling pad with it tho, it gets to like 90 degrees without it :/

[ionic remnant]

yea i used to be a laptop owner as well

i did Undervolt with a bit of OC, added thermal pads and put high quality thermal paste + cooling pad

was tempted to go all out with liquid metal

[tough patrol]

yeah, that's a good idea
just need to not break it if i do that
and i've got a 13700H, meaning no clock control

[ionic remnant]

i genuinely think laptops will become great again in like 2 years, when we get 2nm amd cpus + 3nm nvidia if they go that way

with this combo laptops will stop thermal throtteling as much

[tough patrol]

i got that dumb overpriced razer one, i wanted a reputable brand tho and It works STUPIDLY WELL so i'm going to get my money out of it
90 down to 70 degrees on max fan, it's awesome (90 degrees on the cpu btw, gpu doesn't get very hot (i know average intel))

[ionic remnant]

oh pretty cool

now i am playing wow on my igpu waiting for my 5070ti to get here

[tough patrol]

oh no 💀 only good igpus around are on handheld pc chips lol

now that's a nice graphics card

[ionic remnant]

playing 30 fps in order to better appreciate the 5070ti when it gets here

ehh i kinda shouldave waited for 5080 super i feel but oh well (since it's msrp is lower than 5080 it's going to be 999)

[tough patrol]

based, i play stalker at literally the lowest settings, resolution and xess settings on my msi claw at 30fps so i can appreciate my laptop LOL

[tough patrol]

yeah it's not gonna be that price tho, we both know that

[ionic remnant]

yea that's what i said + it's 3-4 months away + i will have to wait a month or two to get a decent price etc

[tough patrol]

yeahh, a 5070ti will deff run this game more than fine either way

[ionic remnant]

• the 5070ti got a really good one for the same price as an entry lvl card

here entry level cards are at 790-830 euro

found a Zotac AMP Extreme Infinity at 785 eur in germany
it can go up to 345W vs 300W

[tough patrol]

ooh nice, lemme see what that is in dollarydoos (aussie bucks)

1500 bucks for a current, high-ish level graphics card
that's most of my laptop LOL

[ionic remnant]

yea prices are crazy

[tough patrol]

nvidia lovin it

[ionic remnant]

sadly

[tough patrol]

i realllyyy hope intel gives them a run for, but right now i'm just hoping intel doesn't go under tbh

[ionic remnant]

same

celestial gpus look promising

[tough patrol]

they're getting smashed by amd cpus hardcore, i hope their gpus broaden the market a bit

i think sometimes about getting an egpu for my rog ally or msi claw but i kinda always decide it's kinda pointless every time

[ionic remnant]

Why not just build a pc

Do you move a lot

[tough patrol]

i move a lot from my bed to my desk
besides, i like the idea i can just go to a friends house and game

[ionic remnant]

well usually when u go to a friend's house to game you play light games like league, valorant etc

so i'd say keep your laptop as your mobile unit and just get a pc

also with moonlight / sunshine you can stream at home with 0 delay and very high quality from ur pc to any device, including ur laptop

probably wait for next gen tho

the successor of the 9060XT or if nvidia finally start caring about the 60/60Ti series

[plucky quail]

Love the game fist game in years i had that much fun.
Tho frametime is really fine on me. Others have it alright too.

[ionic remnant]

@plucky quailimma try to flash these bios onto my card

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/277082/277082

[past escarp]

fellas, my friend want to upgrade a pc (upgrade aka gpu, mobo, ram, cpu) and i think i can sell him my parts (a bit used 7800xt and r7 7700) and upgrade my pf. do you think its a good idea?

[ionic remnant]

yes and get 7800x3d for 250 eur on aliexpress

261 eur *

[past escarp]

i was thinking abt getting 9070xt and r7 7800x3d

[past escarp]

and it would require me trying to find this cpu

also i know a guy who can sell 7 7800x3d with good price

but i dont know the price

[ionic remnant]

apparently the 400W gigabyte one doesnt work on zotac

but i can do the
asus strix:

Power target 320W
Power limit : 350W

that should be huge for OC

[plucky quail]

go for it

More power = more FPS

[past escarp]

well apparently for 7800x3d + 9070xt 750w psu will not be enough and its better to get 850w

[tawny thicket]

according to what ?

[past escarp]

be quiet! psu calculator

[tawny thicket]

IDK in what universe the 9070 XT and 7800 X3D would consume more than 750W

[past escarp]

4 fans, 2 sata, 1 m.2, 1xpump 3xfan, 2 ram

[tawny thicket]

HUB's total system power usage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQB0i0v2mkg&t=930s

doesnt even go above 430w
and thats with a 9800 X3D

[past escarp]

so its a full load of pc?

[tawny thicket]

uuhhhmmm

[past escarp]

i mean like is it full power consumption of pc

[tawny thicket]

yeah i know you meant
im just unsure
cuz 430 seems quite low ngl

[past escarp]

and i`ve heard that 7800x3d cant be ocd

[tawny thicket]

after checking out GN's data (which is taking the cards consumption only) GN has the 9070 XT consuming only 300W
so im 99% sure HUB is taking total system usage

[past escarp]

oh then it should be fine ig, cause in games my card is using abt 280w and cpu abt 110w

[tawny thicket]

scammers be gone !

(thx whichever mod banned that bot)

[plucky quail]

I think that’s enough tho I always want to have more for later upgrades not to be hindered by the psu

[ionic remnant]

if i could go back i'd have gotten a 1000W psu directly

[plucky quail]

I put it in a really good calculator for psu. And I put in OC for gpu and cpu. AIO, 2x m.2, 1x usb c, 3x normal Usb a and 6 extra fans and 50w buffer. Total is 650w Max and their recommended is 700w. But that’s with OC @past escarp

[tawny thicket]

a 1000W CPU

[plucky quail]

me having one

[ionic remnant]

psu

[tawny thicket]

i just couldnt help meself

[ionic remnant]

imma flash my vbios btw

[plucky quail]

More like 5000w unlock from intel

[plucky quail]

They always do total except it’s said so

[tawny thicket]

which is dumb when comparing GPU's.

[past escarp]

Thank you

[coarse linden]

Really good calculator? Just do it in your head

But honestly 850w would be minimum size i would get these days

Since in the end it is the part that lasts longest in your PC if you buy quality one.

Well unless they come up with more idiotic connectors

[plucky quail]

Well if you dont want to Calculate all the stuff in your head with the extra Wattage that comes with OCing. I get 15% extra wattage but i dont know if every AMD GPU gets that headroom.

[plucky quail]

Agree. Tho you also use more CPU power when your GPU is fast enough. So the more Performance it has the more you will have extra wattage.

[nimble nexus]

You also have to account for spikes and other things.

My 9070XT Red Devil, requires a 900w power supply.

[coarse linden]

BS it does

[past escarp]

and reaper requires 750w

[nimble nexus]

that is what it states in system infopage where I got it.

Minimum System power 900w

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-9070-xt-red-devil-limited-edition-16gb-gddr6-graphics-gra-pwc-04014.html

[coarse linden]

What they say on the box is pretty much irrelevant. Its overblown so they dont get sued if some china bomb psu blows up

[nimble nexus]

Maybe so, but I can only go by what they say.

It's okay though, I got a nice new PSU that I am very happy with

[coarse linden]

I mean there is no real downside going with it but it absoutely doesnt require it

Since who knows what kind of brainfarts GPU makers come up with in future

[nimble nexus]

I have been building pc's for 30 years... I know that I can wing it... But I am also an unlucky f*ck and never tempt fate... It always seems to slap me... and not nicely 😄

[coarse linden]

Technically you can run it with 550w if you wanted to tempt fate and dont own intel cpu that loves to ignore its own specs lol

Note the term "technically"... Please dont do that folk

[nimble nexus]

I can see the hate mail already 😄

[coarse linden]

lol

Quality PSU can handle the spikes. Hell quality PSU can handle 200w overspec without becoming smoke machine

[nimble nexus]

I am selling my old one, so the new one rated at 1000w would have only cost me £70...

And that gives me head room going forward, if I decide to get a new GPU in a couple of years

[coarse linden]

Yeah psu is always the most pain in the rear part to swap

So put little extra on it and you will be using it for next 15 years

Well unless as i said before they come up with new moronic connetor designs

[nimble nexus]

yeah... Just keep it simple... No need to redesign the wheel...

It's like these idiots are coming up with ways to justify their jobs...

[past escarp]

as i heard about my psu (chieftec polaris) it can handle loads equal to its nominal power(750w) or a little over

[ebon epoch]

it is true that clean output is more important than overall capacity

doesn't matter if you have a 800w psu if it ripples like a mfer (ask me how I know)

[hollow kettle]

Dude I was running 4k with 1070 in 2016

[ionic remnant]

What changed since

[hollow kettle]

I think all i played back then was WoT but still 😂

No i did play cod also. And halo and fortnite 😂

[hollow kettle]

The world got rich while we stay poor lol idk
That is what it seems like to me. Even middle class is basically poor now 😭

[ionic remnant]

That is true

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/intels-new-graphics-driver-lets-you-dedicate-up-to-87-percent-of-laptop-memory-capacity-to-the-igpu-for-vram-core-ultra-cpus-get-shared-gpu-memory-override-feature

Who was hyped about celestial igpus ?

[nimble nexus]

I'm about as excited as a chicken in a slaughter house.

[past escarp]

well people got more money, much, much more money

but you are not one of those people, none of us are actually

[hollow kettle]

We shoulda mined crypto 🥺

[past escarp]

maybe, maybe no. its just another "what if..."

[plucky quail]

That’s like if you pair it with a really high end cpu

Like stupid people buy 14900k

[late ferry]

huntsman218 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse linden]

And assumption that you decided to save money with PSU so you can spend that extra dollar for intel cpu

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/x59AsHBKx7A?si=qsFrnbKR8jsDqcNT

Depressing numbers. But I still think since the game uses the useless ecores the heavy cache game gets less cache to the good pcores.

[past escarp]

is 7800x3d a good upgrade from 7700?

and is 9070xt a good upgrade from 7800xt?

[ionic remnant]

Wait for super series i say

Not to buy nvidia necessarily but i feel by them 9070XT will have a better price

[ionic remnant]

@plucky quail @coarse linden @tawny thicket
Sorry for the ping but i need help

Ah shit cant send pictures here

A guy telling me

I can buy a cable from amazon that doesnt explicitly say its for my psu

He says he checked how the cable is made

this one should be good. but double check https://www.amazon.fr/-/en/YieJoya-Power-Corsair-Modular-Supply/dp/B0BWDCCJ27?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.63HNqYEPviHeTXPY6Odmeg6u0f8eYGxylZav46SfUf8JTF6o8Mkjd57V0UB4DwowNSNUjCgTJRjswHg_YFEGTZy53GM-emngE2-LRFBGe8hYrevetm1saJvjIDQeugte7EQPdDsLlq9rFVWOga9oqnL8p8ROmfazZXlHcZwGUF4JP5GgVxF31sg8LHJtOHXaFQaAPD4-tAT_SAaoWYu-YXN3jl0m9OuKE6kCuW-giosxRAFQa2Kn3yPsfOkwn3_ppwFaHe1zKYpP1mqAcOHANilq-LyvLYxhz3jHoPIRuNc.EfRFdJO1pnKiL1-hjbqt0UExL08uXdIcGlR1UxUsGbk&dib_tag=se&th=1

For my https://www.gigabyte.com/Power-Supply/GP-UD850GM

He checked the pins

Can someone who understands the pins double check
I genuinely dont understand shi to this

[plucky quail]

Where did he check that on Amazon only with the psu model name?

[ionic remnant]

No idea

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/Pinout-Diagram_UD_PG5.pdf?v=f686f78c65cd91e41f10b2535390a5ba

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/Pinout-Diagram_UD_1000GM_850GM_750GM.pdf?v=d50d0691e87295a2341760f165dfdb78

[tropic bobcat]

To be honest? Not really.

[tropic bobcat]

Could be, yeah. 9070 XT is +41%~ compared to the 7800 XT.

[tawny thicket]

in raster anyway
RT is pretty much 2X

[coarse linden]

It is standard design so i dont see why not

[tropic bobcat]

They are not.

[tropic bobcat]

No. This will destroy every single component within your PC. GPU? Dead. PSU? Dead. Motherboard? Dead. CPU? Dead.

Do not under any circumstances use cables to connect your PSU within various components in your PC that ain’t designed for your PSU, it will not end well for you, if you need replacement cables please email the company who manufactures the PSU or you can order custom cables but they need to be within spec of that PSU. You can and will cause a short otherwise.

[ionic remnant]

okay i see

[tropic bobcat]

What cables were you looking to purchase?

[tropic bobcat]

Ah I see. Yeah this will destroy your PC, I’m glad you asked before you did this. I’d email Gigabyte if you need replacements. That should be covered under your warranty.

[coarse linden]

Tad overboard with fearmongering but as long as gauge is same its just fine.

[tropic bobcat]

It’s really not. It’s well documented to literally never do this.

I’ve seen this exact scenario multiple times personally. If it keeps him from doing that then it worked.

TL:DR; Modular PSU cables are not interchangeable.

[ionic remnant]

there is one that has my psu name on aliexpress

[coarse linden]

Oh right... Forgot the pin arrangements change per psu since their need to be special

[ionic remnant]

but idk if it's safe

apparently he checked the pins

[coarse linden]

Only buy from ali if you are willing to risk your pc. You never know until something becomes smoke machine that you were shafted

[ionic remnant]

how much is the max power output of 2 cables + pcie slot itself

[tropic bobcat]

No.

[coarse linden]

8 pins are 150w each and pcie slot gives about 75w

[tropic bobcat]

Please just email Gigabyte lol. Your PSU is covered under warranty I’d imagine. They should send a new set for free.

[ionic remnant]

it's been for than 2 years

[tropic bobcat]

Otherwise you’d need to find the pinout of the cables and the PSU and match them with whatever you can find or have made. The latter can be quite expensive.

[ionic remnant]

so it's not qwq

[coarse linden]

Who buys psu with 2 year warranty?

[ionic remnant]

all components in europe only have 2 years waranty unless said otherwise

[coarse linden]

Most psu's sold in europe have over 5 years warranty

[ionic remnant]

mmm maybe mine has more

then, i bought it off amazon

[coarse linden]

Corsairs are 7 years and seasonics pretty much always 10 years

[tropic bobcat]

Thermaltake is generally ten years now also, they increased it a while back at least for my model. I’m guessing this is model dependent touch.

[tropic bobcat]

What model?

[coarse linden]

Yeah 2 year warranty would set off alarm bells for me lol

[ionic remnant]

http://amazon.fr/-/en/dp/B0B1L9PKVH?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1

GIGABYTE 850W - GP-UD850GM - 80+ Gold

i could order it off amazon, take the cable and return it but that's risky and scummy

[tropic bobcat]

These have ten years warranty.

[ionic remnant]

where'd u read that

[tropic bobcat]

Gigabyte’s website…

[ionic remnant]

well imma try to talk again with amazon and gigabyte tomorrow

Thanks for the info and will let u know

[tropic bobcat]

Well Amazon is going to direct you to Gigabyte.

[coarse linden]

"5 years warranty (Adjusted according to different regions)"

Dont ya love when they shaft plebs like that?

[tropic bobcat]

That’s strange, I know it’s region dependent and based on model but their website made it seem like it was ten…

[coarse linden]

And amazon says 2 lol

Then again if they sold rev 1.0 it could be correct on amazon listing

Since Gigabyte loves doing this Rev bs for its stuff

[tropic bobcat]

Damn that’s ass, it’s ten in the states I think?

Got my PSU because it came with ten years. Among other reasons.

[coarse linden]

Heh i got mine because it was on sale with decent stuff inside. Even thought everything in your head should be screaming when its 760w

Atleast in the olden days rule of thumb anything that deviates from X00 or X50 is china bomb psu

[tropic bobcat]

I snagged mine for $89.99, Thermaltake GF3.

[tropic bobcat]

Anyone’s guess now. 😂

[coarse linden]

Paid 80€ for Fractal Design Ion+

[tropic bobcat]

I’ve never used one of their PSUs I’ll be honest.

[coarse linden]

Outsourced like most but are decent

Even came with spare fuses lol

Even to this day i have no clue where that fuse is suppose to go since as far as im aware there is no fuse you can swap. But still it came with 2 fuses

[coarse linden]

Aww shit

One of the AIO fans died

[ionic remnant]

rip

[coarse linden]

Oh well probably get replacement fan from manufacturer by tuesday

[tropic bobcat]

Replaceable. What AIO? What fan?

[coarse linden]

Arctic Freezer III

Already swapped the fan heh but still going to contact support to get replacement

Well took the fan from Freezer II i have laying around lol

[tropic bobcat]

Phanteks Glacier One M25 G2 for mine.

[coarse linden]

Do like Arctic and their way of support ignoring the retailer since dealing with retailer is generally pain in the rear since they try to weasel their way out and take weeks to process

But smh fan didnt even last a year 24/7 use

[coarse linden]

I mean 60€ for 360 AIO thats got good reviews and good warranty

[tropic bobcat]

I paid $162 including nine extra fans.

[ionic remnant]

alright

i did the gigabyte support ticket, really hope i can get an extra cable

we gonna push this gpu to the max

[ionic remnant]

Really hope 5070Ti super vbios will be compatible with 5070Ti even with the vram diff

[coarse linden]

Unlikely unless you swap the 3GB chips

[worn jay]

https://youtu.be/1H3xQaf7BFI?si=NBp27wWz03gygR6F

[tropic bobcat]

Why?

[tawny thicket]

to do dumb OC sh't i guess

[tropic bobcat]

Yeah I get that. I specialize in overclocking. What I don’t get is why he isn’t using one of the other 5070 Ti variants that has a higher power limit. That’s my guess as to what he’s trying to accomplish.

[coarse linden]

https://www.techpowerup.com/340032/microsoft-windows-11-24h2-update-may-cause-ssd-failures

This bloatware just keeps on giving

[plucky quail]

You gotta be shitting me. First m.2 WD and now another SSD failure.

[ionic remnant]

i will once i get it but it will be :
pt 320W pl 350W

vs
pt 350W pl 400W on 5070Ti super just better vbios

although i doubt it will work

[tropic bobcat]

If you wanna brick the card, sure.

[serene meteor]

Is 16 gigabytes of RAM enough to play stalker 2? I know the requirements say it is but after 10 minutes of playing, I lag from 40 fps to 10.

[past escarp]

no

[serene meteor]

That's unfortunate.

[flat brook]

Postpone button hit once again

[plucky quail]

Yes 16GB is good for stalker.

maybe CPU is too weak or normal ram not enough

[serene meteor]

I have Ryzen 5 7600. I thought that would be good enough.

[tawny thicket]

it is

its just a little rough

[tawny thicket]

what GPU ?
its probably VRAM.

[serene meteor]

RTX 3060 ti

[tawny thicket]

then its safe to assume its VRAM
lower your settings
high or medium should be fine.

[serene meteor]

Funny thing... I'm at low.

[plucky quail]

You dont have 16GB bro

[plucky quail]

Doesnt matter you have 8GB its not enough. You opened prob task manager looked at the shared ram amound and thought its 16GB Vram. Just that you know why you have not have 16GB

[serene meteor]

Oh, I see. Thank you for explanation!

I'll upgrade my RAM then.

[tawny thicket]

the question was about RAM not VRAM

[plucky quail]

Yes if you have 2x16GB you will have unified Vram. So the 8 he has on the GPU and 16GB that it will spill over to. He just miss read the taskmanager

[plucky quail]

Nothing with your Ram. YOu need to upgrade the GPU. or try ultra low settings through mods.

[tawny thicket]

that wouldnt fix your issue
since your problem is V-RAM not RAM

[ionic remnant]

The poll boys

[ionic remnant]

What resolution

Does reducing the upscaling make a difference (dlss from quality to performance)

[serene meteor]

3440 x 1440.

[ionic remnant]

Ah rip

Thats super costly for a 3060Ti

[serene meteor]

Would adding a second GPU fix it?

[ionic remnant]

A second gpu ?

[serene meteor]

My motherboard has two GPU slots.

[ionic remnant]

Uh no, multi gpus setups are a thing of the past
I'd recommend a new gpu and also upgrading to 32gb of ram

But but, did you try running the game without the ultra wide

In 1440p 16:9 on your ultra wide

2560x1440

[serene meteor]

No, but I'll try it once I install the update.

[ionic remnant]

Also put dlss at performance

Also there are mods to make the game less performance heavy, you sacrifice a bit of visuals but its fine

I'd recommend a 9070XT or 9060XT 16gb if you're looking to upgrade the gpu

If not try to hold out a year and a half and you might get next gen gpus

[tawny thicket]

Best perf mod is in the pins

[ionic remnant]

I think with the combination of all he might run the game

Lets hope for him

I might retry stalker when the UE update drops

[tawny thicket]

Oh, no.
Just use colesy's with the potatoe mode mod
Perfect.

60fps+ at all times.

[ionic remnant]

No i mean combination of playing the game on 16:9

• dlss perf
• one of the mods

I dont mean he should combine the mods

[proper marsh]

Does it work on windows 98?

[past escarp]

of course it does! even on MSDOS

[tropic bobcat]

Huh, this server host offers 32GB RAM Minecraft servers for $9.99/month. how unusual.

[past escarp]

what do you need 32GB ram on minecraft server? if you want to play with friends - there are lots of other ways

[tropic bobcat]

I don’t but it’s only $9.99, I’m using it for ATM10 for myself and some friends.

[ebon epoch]

"you don't understand, I must spend money"

[mortal thicket]

Is this the right place to ask graphics settings? I'm having trouble limiting frames when frame gen is active + reflex both in game and in rtss.

[tawny thicket]

when using FG you have to limit your fps at half of whatever your desired outcome fps is
so if you want 120, then you have to cap it at 60

[tropic bobcat]

this guy frame gens

[mortal thicket]

Wait but capping it at 60fps gives it so much input lag

Assuming I've 120 with frame gen

[plucky quail]

Either you frame cap or u use reflex with fg

Both reduce input lag

[plucky quail]

Did you inject anti lag 2 in your games?

[mortal thicket]

Yes reflex with FG works fine, great latency - does this mean I cannot cap so the frames aren't willy nilly

[tawny thicket]

you can still cap

[tawny thicket]

in every game where i can

[plucky quail]

You can cap but using both at the same time makes no sense

[plucky quail]

[mortal thicket]

It doesn't let me cap though, is what I'm asking unless I'm missing something

[plucky quail]

The ingame or rtss?

[tawny thicket]

it absolutely should...

[mortal thicket]

So I have FSR 3.1 enabled, Reflex enabled and ingame capped at 60fps - I'm still getting like 80-110fps

[plucky quail]

Do you without the fg 60 stable ?

[mortal thicket]

When I use RTSS (Reflex), I have to disable the in game Reflex so it can actually cap the frames

[mortal thicket]

Yeah I get 60 stable

[plucky quail]

Wait what gpu u got

[mortal thicket]

3060ti

[plucky quail]

Makes sense you are vram limited

[mortal thicket]

Yes I am

[plucky quail]

Every fg uses extra vram and so they can’t run 2x if the gpu needs to change the data around

You can’t really use fg no matter what kind

[mortal thicket]

I mean FG does work and it does work with reflex in game , really can't notice the input lag with both enabled

I just cant seem to cap the frames

[plucky quail]

Either upgrade gpu, mod game for the gpu or don’t cap and only use reflex.

[plucky quail]

You can or it doesn’t and you get lower fps

Reflex feels better cuz it’s adjust to the frames. Frame cap doesn’t

[mortal thicket]

Yeah it does feel better I just wish I can cap it to somewhere stable so it doesn't hog more power

Basically what I can do is
FG + Reflex = 80-110fps good input lag
FG + RTSS (Reflex) + Frame Cap = 80fps some input lag
Native everything = 60fps kinda ok lol

Just wish I can cap FG + Reflex

[plucky quail]

Yea running 40fps base does not feel good + fg.

[mortal thicket]

Yeah imma play around some more, squeeze some frames like a peasant

[ionic remnant]

reflex 2.0 still needs work

it lowers base fps by like 8% sadly

[mortal thicket]

FG with Reflex is really good, maybe adds +5-10ms for me

But I really dislike how the norm is upscaling, fg, etc. Coming from the BF6 beta was really nice since I got really good native performance

I can't get frame cap to work so this'll have to do
High-Med settings
DLSS Quality
FSR 3.1 FG
Reflex
100-110fps 30-40ms @1440p

[plucky quail]

So depressing without bf6

It doesn’t feel right to play anything else anymore since then. (Don’t play since Saturday)

[coarse linden]

Eh not really with the maps

[flat brook]

BF6 ran like an absolute dream, genuinely felt like a trip back to the BF3 OB with the chaos and shenanigans

[ionic remnant]

you guys play games ?

i thought we're here just to OC our cards and watch benchmark number go up

[ionic remnant]

    DLSS Multi Frame Generation Override - Enables DLSS Multi Frame Generation for GeForce RTX 50 Series users when Frame Generation is ON in-game, in titles lacking native DLSS Multi Frame Generation support.
    DLSS Frame Generation Model Upgrade - Enables the latest DLSS Frame Generation model for GeForce RTX 50 Series and GeForce RTX 40 Series users, which reduces video memory usage and can increase frame rates, when Frame Generation is ON in-game.
    DLSS Transformer Model Upgrade - Enables the latest transformer AI model for DLSS Super Resolution, Ray Reconstruction, and DLAA for all GeForce RTX users, when the aforementioned features are ON in-game.

pretty interesting the DLSS Frame Generation Model Upgrade

i hope they make smooth motion a bit better

[tawny thicket]

It just gets you more fps and less Vram usage while looking worse

[ionic remnant]

Wait the new model is worse in terms of visual quality ?

[tawny thicket]

Yup
DL-FG old model > new model

[tawny thicket]

DLFG suffering from FSR 2.2 syndrome

(FSR 2.1 is better than 2.2, even 3.1 at times)

[mortal thicket]

is the new model, preset K?

[tawny thicket]

For the upscaler yes
I don't think there are different presets on DLFG

Just the old and new models

[mortal thicket]

I see, are the newer models better for upscaling?

[tawny thicket]

Much better

[ionic remnant]

Wheres my dlss4.5 nvidia

Hope its in Jan

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/kNCYKBqA7m4?si=gNu8nPi4exCdJ0qi

didn’t know the u7 is that bad

[worn jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1mkl5m0/5090_melt_help_xd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[plucky quail]

69th 5090 dead ☠️ 10 to go

[ionic remnant]

nvm misunderstood, i gotta be careful with my cable
voting this cz nvidia just sucks

[late ferry]

devox has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ionic remnant]

shet is too faked @late ferry

[worn jay]

https://youtu.be/EJvVeekzITc?si=6jOJU5AOqpvdz1vB
love it when in game character voice actors talk about the features in the game

[plucky quail]

That’s reall good trailer

I love the music at the end.

[worn jay]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-releases-fidelityfx-sdk-2-0-fsr-4-goes-full-open-source

W

[tawny thicket]

FSR has 3 diferent DLL's now

🤨

also
i now have FSR 4.0.2 😎
what changed with it ? IDFK

[worn jay]

tl dr its better

[tawny thicket]

they also started working on an int8 model 🤔

int8 means all SM 6.3(?) cards can theoretically run it
which includes RDNA 3/2

[coarse linden]

Tbh dont see much of a point

[plucky quail]

W

[coarse linden]

Would be W if model data was included so people could tweak it themselfs but alas its not so meh really

[ionic remnant]

gpu plugged in

[plucky quail]

You need to test it at your 1080p and say if it’s better.

[coarse linden]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/introducing-advanced-shader-delivery/

"Advanced shader delivery addresses one of the most frustrating challenges for PC gamers today – long load times and disruptive stuttering during a game’s first launch. "

[worn jay]

apparently it was an accident to put on open source

[ionic remnant]

new gpu

already beat the old gpu in bench mark by 1k graphics score on timespy
i put a bench i thought was decent

now trying to push to the max before i start undervolting

and then this weekend i flash vbios

[tawny thicket]

depends on where you look wether 0.1 or 0.2 wins

https://imgsli.com/NDA4Mzgz
in this particular frame 0.1 is clearly worse

[tawny thicket]

oh, yes
tweak an already finished AI model

[plucky quail]

Uh test p mode if that would help but I am not on pc rn

[ionic remnant]

Boyz

This gpu is insane, its a spaceship, full metal

[tawny thicket]

IDRK what we were expecting TBH

The version number going up by 0.0.1 just means they fixed some bug

[ionic remnant]

Happy with the purchase, biggest gpu i've seen

[bright prism]

what gpu

[ionic remnant]

If you're asking me 5070Ti zotac amp extreme infinity

Is increasing power target to 110% by changing vbios useless if I end up flattening the curve to undervolt ?

(If i understood correctly the higher power target encourages to go for higher voltage on the clock/volt curve)

I am not talking about power limit, talking about power target

There is another vbios
With Power target : 320W
Power limit 350W

My stock vbios are
power target 300W
Power limit 345W

I am entertaining other than the extra 5 watt pl, if the 320W power target is useful for me and worth it if i undervolt anw

[plucky quail]

People need to stop saying free performance when talking about fg. I can’t.
Stop fooling people

[plucky quail]

How much power can you pull out of your cables

[ionic remnant]

I've seen my 7900XTX draw 450W

I got 2 cables + daisy chain

So at the minimum i can pull 2x150W +75W pcie = 375 W

[ionic remnant]

also i am in the process of aquiring a new one from gigabyte

hope it works

[plucky quail]

I bet 400w is good power draw for that gpu tho more = better

Guys lets change the name of the 5070ti super meme name( super duper extreme)
To super duper advanced.
Just because Donald trump said that and that makes it 10x funnier

[wheat perch]

lol

so sticking to stalker purposes I would call it "Super Wolf'ed Edition" 😄

[plucky quail]

I am going to make a gif out of that for us. Sadly we can’t post fully gifs here

[ionic remnant]

send the clip

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/GjuiflzWWS0?si=yHZ-XifIm_FcgKqz

[ionic remnant]

bro just checked

[mortal thicket]

is the 18/24gb confirmed?

[plucky quail]

No

[wheat perch]

I will never understand how this guy makes it into the WH 2nd time -.-

[plucky quail]

Be happy for the bright side

“ the Blackwell. You know what the Blackwell is? is a super duper advanced chip ☝️ “

[wheat perch]

the more awesome variant of super wolf'ed one?

[plucky quail]

It’s joke here that we call the Blackwell super duper. And when the super series comes we would have called it the super duper extreme. But trump is funny that’s now advanced.

[wheat perch]

I get that

[ionic remnant]

have you heard nvidia will release 4070ti super duper advanced with 24 gb of vram

[tawny thicket]

brhu
politicians talking about tech is the most cringy thing you could every possibly show me

[ionic remnant]

i hope the only thing that's getting bricked is me

this weekend

[ionic remnant]

10 votes

everyone hatin on nvidia

[coarse linden]

8 pin did not need fixing

But everyone will love the connector once AMD adopts it

[plucky quail]

[ionic remnant]

man let me send a screenshot

got 30.9k graphical score and i fixed the cpu now i get 13k with it, the problem was x3d mode

[tawny thicket]

I NEED MOARE VOTES !

[spring pulsar]

I think 12vhp should be banned for being dangerously unpredictable! What's wrong with the old power cables? I have a GTX 580 Classified somewhere which can pull up to a 1000w! So what exactly is the advantage of the 12vhp system?

I've got an EVGA 3080ti with the old power cables. When this dies or I upgrade, I'll be search high and low for another GPU with the old powers cables!

Not a big fan of having a fire in my pc! Experienced that in the past with a ssd power cable ><

[coarse linden]

Tad late since its already ATX standard

[spring pulsar]

it's a hazard to human life, BAN IT!

[coarse linden]

Not in a big enough scale for them to pull the standard

[spring pulsar]

i guess health & safety isn't a thing in America!

But what's good about it?

The most critical advantage is drastically increased power output. A single 16-pin connector can supply up to 600 watts of power..... but arent all nvidia gpus power restricted xD

[tawny thicket]

its cheaper

and easier to use than 3 8pins

[spring pulsar]

easier to use xD

[tawny thicket]

i mean
you get 2 less cables !!
worth the fire hazard obviously

[tawny thicket]

3 less even !!

[spring pulsar]

like my monitor, creates addition heat during the winter months!

i'd rather have more cables and no fire 😛

my GTX 580 needed 3 cables !

[tawny thicket]

AND
most important of all
it looks better aestheticaly, Especially with the flames, they add a whole new level of realism

[plucky quail]

They do it to look clean. Instead of using 3-4 cable they want u to use 12vhp

[spring pulsar]

yeah im not interested in my pc being the equivalent of a disco ball, lighting up my room!

flame effect though xD

[tawny thicket]

also: to force you to buy a new product sooner than you wouldve otherwise had it not set on fire

[spring pulsar]

i hate rgb so much on my case, I've got electrical tape over my power and hdd led 😛

[tawny thicket]

**HOW DAYRE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR WELL BEING MOARE THAN YOUAURE PC ASSTHETICS !!?🤬 **

[tawny thicket]

**YOU HATE RGB ???? HOW DAYZRE YOU!!🤬 **

[plucky quail]

Not big enough? I guess something burning not even talking about the toxic fumes.
Luckily it’s not that far in burning house down but the fact that you have a fire, toxic fumes and you need to wait for a gpu that you paid 3k to get for 3 months is reason enough not to implement.

Argue about some stupid tech we implement every day but that from Nvidia is enough

[coarse linden]

Grand scheme of things. How many GPU's burned with that connector?

[tawny thicket]

a LOT more than 8pin cards...

[coarse linden]

Yes but not enough for them to pull the standard

[spring pulsar]

but even if the cables don't melt, do they still produce a HUGE amount of heat?

[plucky quail]

Lot bet it’s 10x or 20x

[tawny thicket]

just wait until someone's house burns down cuz of this...

[spring pulsar]

i dont think the 8pin ones even get warm!

it's just one more thing that adds heat to the pc

[plucky quail]

They obviously don’t want to fix it or can’t fix it idk 🤷‍♀️ but either do it right or don’t do it at all

[spring pulsar]

nvidia are wankers 😐

[plucky quail]

Like intel always forced standards

[coarse linden]

I mean there are cases where 8 pins have burned

[plucky quail]

Some forcing is good but not that one

[coarse linden]

Pretty sure most of those were user errors tho

[spring pulsar]

my gpu regulary pulls around 400w and cables don't get warm

has no one tried to fight nvidia on these cables?

[coarse linden]

Thing is as abysmal as it is, it works without issues for majority

[tawny thicket]

certainly dont want too
there was some video from some OC channel where he went in depth as to why 12VHPWR connectors are melting as much as they are, and he said its cuz Nvidia doesnt wanna put as many chips on the PCB as needed
or something like that, it was months ago when i watched

[plucky quail]

I don’t believe that that much is user error also not since we know they are flawed already. With Nvidia refusing to fix it

[coarse linden]

Was talking about 8 pin cases with that

[spring pulsar]

"16-pin 12VHPWR and 12V-2×6 power cables have a safety factor of 1.1. These cables are rated for 600 watts of power delivery and are designed to handle up to 660W. That's a low safety margin, especially when compared with older 8-pin PCIe power connectors."

[tawny thicket]

oh hey, i found the vid !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw&t=1s

[plucky quail]

Yea builzoid talked how they done it right on the 90ti but made it much worse on 40 and 50. Series

[plucky quail]

Lol yea right that one

[tawny thicket]

i heard some of the 9070 XT also have it
i wonder if they do it differently

[plucky quail]

It’s like a flawed concrete mix. If you notice that the new one always get bridle by bit vibration or that It doesn’t hold long then you either can always repair it or replace the mix to a older mich better lasting one.

[plucky quail]

No they do the same shit on the nitro+ cool looking card imo but that 12v makes it ass

[tawny thicket]

yeah
at least the 9070 XT doesnt consume more than 350W

[plucky quail]

Saw a guy had 5070 burned but I give benefit that that was actually a user error

[coarse linden]

That requires some skill

[plucky quail]

I guess he really had only 2 pins having a connection

[spring pulsar]

i wonder... if EVGA still made gpus, would any of their gpus caught fire. Their cards always had good power systems.

[coarse linden]

Probably would be some incidents

[tawny thicket]

if NGREEADIA forced them to use this idiotic standard yes, they would

[spring pulsar]

whats the best gpu nvidia manfacturer these days? I've been buying evga so long, I have no idea who i would go with next upgrade 🙁

[coarse linden]

What ever fits your budget. Personally dislike MSI and Gigabyte apparently pisses PTM pads

[spring pulsar]

hmm

i think my monitor is gigabyte... and this bugger gets way to hot... almost burnt my finger on it the other day! I have since turned of hdr!

"Gigabyte is reliably an engineering trainwreck
MSI may or may not forget VRAM cooling pads, but their warranty is functionally nonexistent
Asus is a coinflip with 💩 support.."

[coarse linden]

MSI entry level coolers generally suck for vram

Comically consistent ever since 900 series that that MSI cheap cards have higher vram temps by up to 20c

[worn jay]

https://wccftech.com/first-case-of-melted-16-pin-connector-reported-on-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-gpu/

[slim knoll]

oh shiiiiiit. Ive got a RX 9070 XT Steel Legend from ASrock

[coarse linden]

Whole system wont even pull over 550w at torture test and yet shift the blame on underrated psu... Peak journalism