pc-specs

[plucky quail]

Do you have it for 4 years?

[reef zenith]

Hey i'll take overkill over underkill xD

I used to use a Noctua NHD-15 for a 2700X 😅

[next moss]

2

[plucky quail]

PCs with bad cooling had only prebuilts from Mediamarkt

[next moss]

its 50° outside on the regular but we got the ac for 19

[plucky quail]

14900k with one 80 air cooler like the intel stock cooler

[reef zenith]

Oh we have AC, but it's whole house. So while the house is coolish... my room is not xD

[plucky quail]

What about next 2 years

[reef zenith]

B...but why? 😭

[plucky quail]

Ask multi million company

[reef zenith]

I've seen enough Gamers Nexus to know that some prebuilts should not exist xD

[tawny thicket]

most* prebuilts.....

[tawny thicket]

cuz money
and probably has RGB
oh and of course, cuz f'ck the costumer* (AKA you)
(sarcasm ofc)

thats probably what the corpos think

[reef zenith]

You wouldn't think money would factor in with such a powerful cpu.... but~ 😂

[tawny thicket]

every little cent counts

[reef zenith]

PlayStation and Xbox removing the Optical port xD

[tawny thicket]

oh yoeash

[tawny thicket]

why do motherboards even have optical ports ? lol

[reef zenith]

Optical is still used pretty commonly

[tawny thicket]

for what ? 🤔

[reef zenith]

Sound
Too external speakers. That don't hook up to HDMI

[tawny thicket]

huh

anyway, Stalker at 12% download

[reef zenith]

Rostok is still iffy as with frames, i mean it's alot better...
Only my real complaint xD Else she's running sweet as a nut ❤️

[tawny thicket]

will see for me self

[reef zenith]

Rest of the game is pretty solid for me performance wise, Just Rostok really dips

[tawny thicket]

godamn, my poor littlre 5600G

[plucky quail]

I am still between ptm and kryosheet

[reef zenith]

Oh no... xD

[plucky quail]

To get this damn hell machine under control

[tawny thicket]

also @plucky quail how are you doing with the is it placebo test ? (the TSR on AMD VS NVIDIA thing)

[next moss]

nothing

[tawny thicket]

especially since its paired with a 9060 XT 16GB

[plucky quail]

Good I still didn’t get the amd finished but by my eyes say it looks the same

[reef zenith]

If i had the money i'd get a 9070xt

Vram is a bit of an issue, rare though

[tawny thicket]

i think this is quite interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sTYWHB8YN4

[plucky quail]

Sadly I don’t have dlss to compare but i did test all of the upscaler for still shot with leafs fly and doing ghosting. I also had left and right movement and tested running in a straight line.

[tawny thicket]

just to see what they were ceromending

[tawny thicket]

so thats a pretty solid comparison suite 👍

[plucky quail]

So young

[tawny thicket]

i also love how for the RT stuf they dont recomend a single AMD card

[plucky quail]

Understandably

[tawny thicket]

https://support.cdprojektred.com/en/cyberpunk/pc/sp-technical/issue/1556/cyberpunk-2077-system-requirements

[tawny thicket]

well, RDNA 2 could do RT (technically) 🤷‍♂️

[nimble nexus]

I got 7900, so not as demanding

[plucky quail]

Damn back then the min requirements are really requirement. A gtx 780!

[tawny thicket]

7900 is VERY efficient

[nimble nexus]

I put mine on PBO, and it runs faster than a normal 7900x according to cinebench 😄

[tawny thicket]

could have probably slotted in the 6800 XT for RT minimum and 6900 XT for RT high recomended

though i dont think they had FSR yet back then

[nimble nexus]

RT performance on a 6800xt was abysmal, but rasterisation, it was a beast.

[plucky quail]

I also did BF6 testing and the highest fps I got with all min settings was avg 220fps I turned all encores off and only used a block of 4 ecores

[tawny thicket]

it was like a 2070 in RT

[plucky quail]

Just 50 to go to beat the 9800x3d 🙂

[nimble nexus]

yeah, rubbish 😄

And I had a 2070 super too 😄

[tawny thicket]

hold on, they put the XTX right next to a 3080 in raster performance

[plucky quail]

What

[nimble nexus]

Well, they are compairing 3rd gen RT together 😄

[plucky quail]

They also did throw the 7800x3d below the 12900k

[tawny thicket]

lol

[tawny thicket]

THATS INSANE
jeez, the devs dont Just hate RADEON, but also **Ryzen **

[nimble nexus]

Yeah, people forget when compairing RT... That AMD are one gen behind. nScamia are currently on gen 4, AMD are gen 3.

[tawny thicket]

Nvidia might as well be GEN 3
cuz Lackwell is just a refresh

[nimble nexus]

So a fair comparison for RT peformance would be the 9070xt v 4070/4070TI, if you was compairing RT like for like.

[nimble nexus]

I think 50 series got a big RT pefermance upgrade, it was the only thing that really went up.

[tawny thicket]

no, it was only an AI upgrade

[plucky quail]

It had the same uplift as raster I think

[tawny thicket]

they added fp4 support

[plucky quail]

Maybe even less than raster

Cut it gained only 6fps in cp77

[nimble nexus]

Not according to reviews from teh likes of HW Unboxed etc... Little raster up life, but a much bigger lift in RT.

[tawny thicket]

Lackwell RT upgrade was focused around RTX mega geometry

[plucky quail]

5090 was 30% faster

I think I was really fast pointing the disappointment of the 50 series with rt. We are not one step further to PT more we are a toenail further.

[plucky quail]

Didn’t that come out and it was a massive disappointment. Wasn’t there a digital foundry video?

https://youtu.be/_SpSLPHvHAs?si=hfUiYLV7DQNvKJuL

Found it

[nimble nexus]

I though the performance upgrade was better for RT, but maybe I got my data mixed up... the 5080, is a sack of BS upgrade... offers very little.

Hence nScamia

[plucky quail]

Let’s hope we get a 9070xt lvl of rt performance advancements next gen

[tawny thicket]

holy shit, im putting together a list of Lackwell perf improvements VS ADA and its freaking disgustung

[nimble nexus]

For AMD yeah... nVidia, just burnt their bridges with me... There is far to much Stockholm Syndrome with nVidia right now.

The practices they have employed recently have been pure scum, IMO.

[tawny thicket]

Raster, based off of TPU
4060 > 5060 +27%
4060 TI > 5060 TI 8GB +11%
4060 TI > 5060 TI 16GB +14%
4070 S > 5070 +6%
4070 S TI > 5070 TI +12%
4080 > 5080 +15%
4090 > 5090 +31%

16% uplif on avarage

if not for the 5060 and 5090 that would be 14%~

TPU,
WHHHYYYYY https://imgur.com/a/72a3dKF ?????

WHY USE PERCENTAGES FFS

[nimble nexus]

that is awful really... Intel got slated years ago, for just having a 20% performace lift, gen after gen their CPU's. AMD was producing slop at the time, so Intel had the market. It was expensive and uninspiring. Then AMD came along and blew them out the water with the 5 series, and they aint looked back since.

I just hope Intel and AMD do the same to nScamia.

The gaming industry needs it... Just like it needs steam OS, and windows to die off.

[tawny thicket]

Raster, based off of TPU relative perf
4060 > 5060 +21%
4060 TI > 5060 TI 8GB +11%
4060 TI > 5060 TI 16GB +13%
4070 S > 5070 +5%
4070 S TI > 5070 TI +12%
4080 > 5080 +12%
4090 > 5090 +26%
14% uplif on avarage

RT
4060 > 5060 +10%
4060 TI > 5060 TI 8GB +6%
4060 TI > 5060 TI 16GB +10%
4070 S > 5070 +1%
4070 S TI > 5070 TI +11%
4080 > 5080 +10%
4090 > 5090 +24%

LMFAO
Nvidia is evolving, just backwards

14% uplif on avarage in raster
10% uplift on avarage in RT

improved RT cores my ass

[tawny thicket]

for all the shit ADA got when it launched, it was a MUCH better gen uplift wise

[lunar maple]

Isn't Stalker 2 using software ray tracing eitherways?

[tawny thicket]

most UE games do

[lunar maple]

Dang...

[tawny thicket]

unless there is an option for HW lumen/RT then its SW Lumen/RT

[tawny thicket]

21%
god why is it so slow

[reef zenith]

What's your internet? 😅

[next moss]

do a bandwidth speedtest

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl8wXT8F3W4

[worn jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316432360524742656/1403733585055453274/image.png?ex=6898a046&is=68974ec6&hm=fa05461bb8f43491d305d7255276e41a1cb2b8dcdd0670938ebeac412d2391f2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1207&height=432

noctua 😂

[plucky quail]

bruh why even try

[plucky quail]

in stalker you can use everything except HDDs

[reef zenith]

I mean come on though, Most games now (as that video shows too) do not handle well with a HDD xD
SSD's are cheap as

[plucky quail]

They should have used 9950X or 14900K for the verifying

[worn jay]

the g2 model even had rattling issues

[plucky quail]

How do you make a Poduct that bad

[worn jay]

Vienna, September 13th 2024

We have received reports from several customers and reviewers regarding NH-D15 G2 CPU coolers producing slight but audible rattling sounds when operating near maximum fan speed. The data we have collected through feedback indicates that 98.7% of the users do not experience this behaviour, but we fully understand that this is frustrating for those who are affected. We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience and have been working hard conducting a thorough root cause analysis and engineering suitable solutions for both existing heatsinks and future production.

Our root cause analysis has confirmed that this behaviour can occur due to severe shock in transit, which can slightly loosen the interlocking of the heatsink fins at the sides of the fin-stacks. If this interlocking becomes less tight and the fans operate near their maximum speed, the airflow may induce a minute vibration of the fins, which can result in slight rattling sounds.

[plucky quail]

if you cry about 5sec you can actually use a 5.0 ssd but it pretty much useless

[worn jay]

its better to get a mid tier ssd with high capacity than fastest one

Crucial P3 4TB > everything unless there is a better deal

[plucky quail]

they should have made better interlocks for 150€

[worn jay]

https://prnt.sc/hQq_R4msx5uU

Sequential Write 3,000 MB/s
Sequential Read 3,500 MB/s

[plucky quail]

All that storage for GTA6

Cake i get now 220 FPS in BF6. With 4 Ecores the game runs the fastest

[worn jay]

rockstar optimize their games tbh , RDR2 runs amazing for the graphics it has

[plucky quail]

Yea tho storage will be higher then stalker for sure.

All the other Ecores are taking too much Cache

[worn jay]

if the game itself is good , doesnt matter if the size is big

[plucky quail]

so disabling Ecores helps

[plucky quail]

Yea bigger size doesnt mean worst game i mean it should mean better game

Getting the textures the size of the map. The Coded AI

the cars the phys models

[worn jay]

i have done this experiment with 10 games
its 1-5 +/- fps in games
so doesnt matter in the end
and i mostly lost fps tbh

[plucky quail]

That prob because Other games use the P cores only. BF6 uses E cores too

And them running and using the cache is taking cache form the Pcores that are much faster.

[worn jay]

have u tested it with on vs off and seeing the fps gain?

[plucky quail]

Yes i tested on and off and only 4 E cores enabled

THe 4 method did help the most

[worn jay]

how much fps did u get

[plucky quail]

Tho i dont know yet if less or more cores help it even more there needs to be testing done. In anyways Intel needs to update APO for Bf6.

[plucky quail]

All Off 200

but it dipped more often and somehow had stutters

few stutters but still had some

[worn jay]

nova lake x3d cache models 😼

[plucky quail]

I like that the Future is so bright with AMD, INTEL, NVIDIA getting their arms ready. Next gen going to be fire

[worn jay]

Ye, on all fronts
also Raja making gpus from scratch again with his new team

[plucky quail]

More big players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqnjiEOHx78

Lol got it recomended rn

[worn jay]

bllcs intel cache beign shared across all cores

https://prnt.sc/Bv-cScI-336l

[plucky quail]

DAMN 2 CCDs with 3D?

[worn jay]

gonna be probably more expensive than last time

[plucky quail]

and 16 P cores

[worn jay]

52 cores in total

[plucky quail]

The 4 LPE cores are really alone lol what are they going to do i wonder

[plucky quail]

Is HT back? Cuz i did read that they think leaving HT was a mistake

[worn jay]

i dunno probably not cus of how many cores there are

i think there was a slide showing remove HT they couldve put like 40% more e cores smth

[plucky quail]

I mean E cores are just the new P cores by now

[worn jay]

they will eventually surpass P cores in ipc and speed lol

ive seen one guy make his e cores faster than P cores when tuning them with arrow lake

[plucky quail]

Yea they are so fast now. Even on the 14900K you can OC the Cores to 4.8. Big headroom tho the heat of that thing is basically Useless

[worn jay]

only where intel can win is 1% lows with their architecture but amd wins in avg high fps

[plucky quail]

Yea for sure. Sad that intels fabs are not even really done so they use TSMC. Thats gonna be expensive.

But do you think Intel really going to get a I7 with One hole CCD turned off? Sounds like wastefull. All the 8 Pcores and 16 Ecores gone.

[tawny thicket]

hmm
i thought AMD won there too 🤔

[plucky quail]

In this gen yea they are king of the hill. but its more cuz AMD has so much FPS that the 1% low is just sometimes over intels Avg

[tawny thicket]

9800X3D: avarage is 37% higher than 1%
14900K: avarage is 39% higher than 1%
285K: avarage is 38% higher than 1%
according to HUB

HUB here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcYixjMMHFk&t=1195s

dunno if they made a follow up for Error Lake

[plucky quail]

Could be after all the Bios updates the 1% low did fall of. Cuz i remember that intel had better 1% low but thats it.

Maybe it was GN?

[tawny thicket]

IDK

[plucky quail]

Yea its GN he has benchmarks of games that had much better 1% lows % wise

[plucky quail]

i like crashtor Lake. Can kinda relate

[tawny thicket]

how many times have you replaced your CPU again ?

[plucky quail]

2

3rd CPU i have in my build

Only 3 month after i got my 13900K i got problems

[tawny thicket]

god you poor thing

[tawny thicket]

i gotta ask, if you ever need to upgrade, will you consider intel as an option ?
after what they did to you

[worn jay]

now no
probably in the future if they get their shi together

[plucky quail]

no

I am either wait till AM6 or next gen if they are really that fast

[tawny thicket]

||i wasnt asking you : D|| but i wouldnt either

i dont think its a sane choice to get any intel arch that isnt lunar lake

Lunar lake seems pretty damn good AFAIK

[worn jay]

my bet is on amd
Zen 6 skipping 2 nodes + maybe specialized TSMC node
6.5GHZ very likely

[tawny thicket]

ZEN 5~ CPU efficiency and ADA/RDNA 4 level GPU efficiency

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltgyS8oJC8g GN is the best

[tawny thicket]

PC HW jeezus has returned

[tropic bobcat]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3638110/Shadow_Project_Demo/

new game (demo) inspired by stalker appeared on steam yesterday, looks really good on paperr.

[hollow kettle]

I think the next gen or two of Intel cpus will be interesting

[past escarp]

all of this is good, but ngreedia is the best

[worn jay]

9060XT 16GB

[plucky quail]

r e a l

[worn jay]

[tawny thicket]

thought you'd say 5060 TI : D

[worn jay]

i would personally buy 5060 ti 16GB cus i mess around with cuda

But i would recommend to people 9060 xt 16GB for gaming

[tawny thicket]

ahh, yeah, i mean for work and AI NvidAI is just better

[worn jay]

As i seem harsh towards AMD is because i know they can do better

[plucky quail]

https://imgur.com/a/Kh7RN2L

O..K?

I dont believe till i see it that intel is supporting 4 Gens

[coarse linden]

Sounds like good way to get instantly banned in any game thats got anti cheat lol

[plucky quail]

Yea

[worn jay]

this is why i somewhat dont like the hybrid architecture
Can be a pain for games and scheduler

[hollow kettle]

My cousin went to microcenter and was able to buy a 9060xt 8gb for $220 lol

It is crazy for awhile 5070 was best value card. Now imo the 9070 at $599 is getting to be good value

[ebon epoch]

I mean, honestly

500-700 bucks for a 12gb vram is hardly a good deal, nevermind a "best value" imo

like yeah, 5060ti doesn't have that much over a 3070 but at least it's 16 gigs and you can get it for under 400

wasn't on the market during the 4ks but the pricing of the 5ks is a clusterfuck imo

5070 feels to me like prebuilt fodder designed to give just enough performance to ensure whoever gets it will be lining up for the 6ks when they come out 'cause half the games they're playing are complaining about their vram

[past escarp]

well if the difference betweene xt and non-xt versions is jsut a 100$ - i dont think that it`ll be that good of an option

and 5070 is just a 100$ cheaper then 9070

[ebon epoch]

yeah, 9070xt is the clear winner of this gen unless nvidia gets off their high horse

[late ferry]

gunsl1ng3r has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gunsl1ng3r has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ebon epoch]

wolf pls

[past escarp]

nice

i cant even say that 9060xt

is cheaper then 5060ti

[ebon epoch]

lmao, it's so wild to be looking at benchmarks and seeing like "stalker 2: 77 fps"

like it's so wild to me that a 900 nvidia gpu can't even break 80 fps on ultra @1440p

[past escarp]

at 4k 4090 got abt 60fps

[ebon epoch]

star wars outlaws: 75, stalker 2: 84, silent hill 2 remake, 9070xt can't even break 60

[past escarp]

well as i heard - sh2 is just poorly optimized. as i heard - it renders the fog and everything behind it, even things that you cant see

[ebon epoch]

yeah yeah but I mean isn't it crazy that almost a 4 figure gpu can't break triple digits on games launched in 2024

I mean I'm not sure how accurate these benchmarks are but 5070ti 53 fps at 4k ultra in motherclucking hogwarts legacy?!

[past escarp]

well s2 is ue5, sh2 is poorly optimized and swo - is ubisoft game

[ebon epoch]

would love to see the numbers on mohun wilds too

[past escarp]

games are not quite good optimized as before, because they now have stuff that can just make frames up and gpus dont have that much of performance gain per gen

[ebon epoch]

yeah, wilds relying on framegen to make it to 60 fps on like 80% of the gpus on the market is... certainly a choice

imo it's less that and more "hey look how much more coke money we can make if we fire the entire QA department!"

"and the game comes out sooner too! it's win win win! snooorrrrtt"

[past escarp]

nah i think its more like: we can make more games in less time and get more money for each, even without proper optimisation - why would they care to fix it?

[ebon epoch]

yeah what could possibly happen if videogame companies flood the market with hastily made, poor quality, expensive products

[past escarp]

well noone seems to care

[ebon epoch]

good news is that nowadays there's going to be less et cartridges in landfills I guess

I mean idk, I would have to ask monolith, tango gameworks and arkane austin if they care

but I get what you mean, they will get away with it, for a while

[past escarp]

well if nothing changes - then they will just get away with it. but at least i hope that ubisoft will cease its existance soon

maybe then companies will start to listen to their customers

[ebon epoch]

I... guess? I mean I don't remember any recent ubi games being particularly badly made or overpriced (for ubisoft)

well actually, come to think of it skull and bones was a gigantic flop of a "AAAA game"

[past escarp]

they are being marketed as "AAA" = then they should be treated as such and criticised as such

and general practices of ubisoft like shutting down the crew entirely and not letting people do anything with it

[ebon epoch]

I don't particularly understand why people are getting so hung up on that particular game shutting down its servers

well I mean I do know why, ross scott has been making a huge stink about it for a while now, and he picked that particular one to launch his crusade with

[past escarp]

cause its a precident. what is the point of not letting people play at least offline modes?

[ebon epoch]

iyam there's better games to make a stink about than the crew of all things, but yeah, I get it I guess.

I'm more concerned about the price-quality ratio of games released in the last couple years than that in particular, personally.

[past escarp]

again, its not the game itself that draws attention, but the intention - you buy the game and then company gets to decide when to just cease its existance whenever it becomes inconvenient for them. the crew is just a beginning - game that not so much people cares about

[ebon epoch]

yeah yeah I've unfortunately been subscribed to accursed farms for like 10 years at this point, I get it.

[past escarp]

well technologies like dlss and fg plays a big role in it, but still good optimisation cant exuse poor writing

and also i know about this whole situation wit the crew and other just because of the roach king

[tawny thicket]

93% downloaded
an entire day went by

[ebon epoch]

it's weird to me how outputting to 1080p and then upscaling to 4k on a second gpu is less intensive for both gpus than outputting at 2k and upscaling to 4k

I mean you'd imagine it'd be harder on the first and lighter on the second, but no, it increases load on both

it's also true that a 3x upscale looks worse than a 2x which looks worse than a 1.5

[tawny thicket]

rendering at 1080p then upscaling to 4K will of course be less intensive than rendering at 1440p then upscaling to 4K.

if it wasnt then upscaling would be pointless

[ebon epoch]

I mean common sense would dictate that a 2x upscale would be more intensive than a 1.5

...but I guess if you're upscaling from 2k you're working with a bigger picture to begin with

[tawny thicket]

it IS but that cost is outweighted by the fact that you are rendering at a lower res

[ebon epoch]

no no no

okay so I'm rendering to 1080p on the 5060, blowing it up to 4k on the 3070

[tawny thicket]

i'll come with some actual upscaler millisecond costs

[ebon epoch]

the 3070 is only upscaling

[tawny thicket]

why the heck would you do that
CAN you even do that ?

[ebon epoch]

sure, lossless scaling

[tawny thicket]

oh, so you are using FSR 1.0
LOL

[ebon epoch]

ls1 for the scaling

[tawny thicket]

LS1 = tweaked FSR 1.0

[ebon epoch]

been trying the several methods it has, ls1 is the best one imo

point is, upscaling from 2k to 4k loads the 3070 more than 1080p to 4k, only upscaling.

picture also looks better, which I guess makes sense, you're starting with a larger sample to begin with

[tawny thicket]

just use DLSS, its SOO much better than FSR 1

[ebon epoch]

I'm using dlss on the 5060

rendering it to 2k, then upscaling it to 4k with the 3070

[tawny thicket]

whats the original rendering resolution then ???

[ebon epoch]

I mean I was using 1080p dlaa originally, but dlss quality to 2k looks better honestly

5060 is outputting to 2k, then 3070 is upscaling it to 4k

why? Because I have a spare 3070 that would be otherwise gathering dust

worth it? Not massively. But I won't deny it looks better than just 2k

[tawny thicket]

well, i lied, its cheaper, actually
FSR 4 AA: 07ms
FSR 4 Q: 0.67ms
FSR 4 B: 0.66ms
FSR 4 P: 0.65ms

[tawny thicket]

what i find most fun is how everyone thinks that FSR 4 is heavier than 3.1

meanwhile at native AA FSR 4 is actually cheaper

FSR 3.1: 0.79ms
FSR 4: 0.71ms

[tawny thicket]

"Advanced gaming" AKA minecraft ?
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-launches-radeon-rx-7400-designed-for-advanced-gaming-with-43w-gpu-power

[plucky quail]

UH i guess i am GPU limited??? I set Ultra P FSR in bf6 and got straight more fps then before. AMDs overlay is saying GPU is at 99% while Steam is saying 86% idk who to believe

[past escarp]

Msi afterburner

[tropic bobcat]

Adrenaline I’d trust more.

[past escarp]

Advanced gaming aka solitare

[ebon epoch]

Forknik

144hz flossing

[tropic bobcat]

Huh?

[tropic bobcat]

English please?

[worn jay]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-says-pay-smarter-and-promotes-incompatible-z890-i5-14600k-bundle

[tawny thicket]

so im playing S2 RN

finished downloading it
and surprise surprise, FSR 4 still broken : (

[tawny thicket]

i think i know why too

the quality mode of FSR in game upscales from 721p, which is probably why the driver override picks model 0

when using optisacler and using the right model for quality upscaling the game is just insanely blurry

it is crazy, how blurry it gets

like TAA level blur

[plucky quail]

Whaat

[tawny thicket]

my CPU is also absolutely dying

im getting less fps CPU limited right now than i was a year ago
thats insane

Also, FSR 2.3 at balanced and below is better than 3.1

TSR is better in this game than FSR 4 if you go below native AA WTF

XeSS straight up sucks

its blurry like FSR 4 but its also somehow more shimmery than FSR 2.3

that is what i'd call an acomplishment

[past escarp]

When ill be home - ill test it. I got like 60% usage of my cpu in s2

[ionic remnant]

what's the game called

[tawny thicket]

Stutter 2, heart of the great stutter

[plucky quail]

Doesnt work.

[plucky quail]

Yea with FSR P its saying 85-90%

[plucky quail]

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battlefield-6-Spiel-75270/Specials/Open-Beta-Release-Gameplay-Live-Benchmarks-Test-1479164/2/

So from german translated they say they tested with searching the same map every time and testing on there.
Now they dont say what res but they say that they used Max setting you can use. So prob 1080P with Max Setting.
Also they have custom power limits by the looks with the U9 at 253W and 9950X3D at 200W.

But at the end they say we cant take the benchmark serious.

[worn jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1mmhe23/did_intel_really_lose/

12600k is 4 years old not that old ;'D, bro sounding like he didnt build a pc for 50 years

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059847760842588221/1404105674958442626/image.png?ex=6899facf&is=6898a94f&hm=e284d26fe2155ce01e7803683ac0ceae3da55eb664404277fd5d52d5d1c69d31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=899&height=585

[tawny thicket]

Bro thinks that the upgrade from the 2060 to 5060 Ti 16GB is significant but the upgrade to the 9060 16GB magically isn't

there's a reason why i don't have reddit

[tropic bobcat]

BF6 won’t let me launch because of secure boot not being enabled, interesting.

[tawny thicket]

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/cyberpunk-2077-fsr-4-update-tested/2/

[tropic bobcat]

So anyway, rip call of duty.

[plucky quail]

Reddit is another league. I would loose brain cells reading all of that

[worn jay]

gotta spread word of amd so they get market share

[plucky quail]

Yea they updated half a year BF2042 so that you only can play it with secure boot.

[tropic bobcat]

Market share is boring.

[worn jay]

no market share no adoption no buy no amd

[tropic bobcat]

Strange requirement but okay I guess. Not a huge deal.

[plucky quail]

BF2042 was locked after i played again in January. DId not get the massage that the game somehow need Secure boot.

[tropic bobcat]

Well that game was sorta poo anyway.

[plucky quail]

Really a crazy time to be alive

[tropic bobcat]

Long as COD finally gets put in its place I’m all for it.

[worn jay]

https://prnt.sc/7yYt0Sw_rsGs
i wonder how it is in 2025 now in Q2

cus these are older numbers
gives u the scope

[ebon epoch]

w11 did require secure boot to begin with, I don't think a windows game requiring it would be that crazy

I think it doesn't require it now because bios is hard, but the idea was to require it

[ebon epoch]

maan, no matter what I do I just get several flavors of 50 fps

which I mean it's fine, but I can't seem to dial down the sweet spot

it's weird 'cause I'm getting mostly the same performance on all 4 dlss presets in 1440p, and mucking around with several quality presets, output resolution is the only thing that seems to be a noticeable effect

the only noticeable performance hit was maybe foliage, but the popping in "medium" is just nuts

[coarse linden]

Anticheat req really

[ionic remnant]

Hope my new gpu will have good OC undervolt

In europe you get 5 year waranty with Zotac

Wish devs just optimize their games so i wont have to upgrade anymore on 1440p

[tropic bobcat]

Yes, I’m aware.

[ebon epoch]

don't really know the nitty gritty of it but nightingale upgraded to ue5.4 and performance is night and day

before it couldn't hold a decent framerate to save its life and now it runs like an absolute dream

[ionic remnant]

Thats so nice to hear man

Hope they keep improving UE performance

[ebon epoch]

by which I mean a hypothetical upgrade of stalker 2 to 5.4 could bring insane performance gains

[ionic remnant]

I wonder how difficult it is

[ebon epoch]

not really sure how hard it would be, probably there's a reason they haven't done it yet I guess

[ionic remnant]

To upgrade, i dabbled in game dev but dno about upgrading versions

Maybe it will break too many things, and then they'd have to spend another 6 months to refix all the bugs

And they just want to add content vs refixing bugs

[ebon epoch]

idk, it's not like nightingale has been swimming in success, exactly

though I'm sure there's a million ways to skin a cat when it comes to software development

plus I guess gsc are busy trying to flesh out the sdk first and foremost

[ionic remnant]

Fsr 3.1.4 apparently will have all the features of redstone ?

Such an insane upgrade for 7900XTX users

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-rtx-5070-ti-apocalypse-oc.b12559

Makes me mad Zotac keeps this to the chinese market

It had 18 vrms vs 14 of the AMP Extreme infinity ultra

And a beefier cooler (if thats even possible)

[ebon epoch]

wish I could upgrade to a 5800x3d

but it's just not worth it

and upgrading to am5 is way too expensive to make sense as well

[real kraken]

Useless, they ont produce anymore

Price are too high

5800x/5700X3D are still good upgrade for AM4

[ionic remnant]

I grabbed 5700X3D for 2 of my entourage when it was 150 eur on aliexpress before it goes out of stock

Such a blessing man.. sad it doesnt stay there as an option at that price range

My friend had a ryzen 2600 told him to upgrade to 5700X3D

Best 150-170 eur he spent for his rig i think

[ebon epoch]

I mean next purchase is going to be an am5 prebuilt. It just doesn't make sense to spend money on am4 at this point

but that's going to be in a year or two, maybe once the next generation launches

[tawny thicket]

nope.

[hollow kettle]

Does anyone know if the amd fidelityFX sdk works same as xess 2.1 sdk ? Like can I download it and manual swap dll files to get latest upscaler/frame gen models in games?

[tawny thicket]

the 3.1.4 plugin/SDK just added some inputs that are going to be required for ML FSR FG

[hollow kettle]

Maybe with the newest update you can swap dll files to get latest fsr model for games that cant use OptiScaler

[tawny thicket]

if fact
i belive you can also swap the 3.1 DLL with the FSR 4 one
might be wrong though

[hollow kettle]

Is like dlss swapper but for fsr ?

[hollow kettle]

From what I read that is what it is seeming to be. Or they are giving us tools to access that easy later when it comes maybe

[tawny thicket]

if swapping the DLL to the FSR 4 one doesnt work
then the AMD profile inspector will
as long as a game has 3.1

[hollow kettle]

The profile inspector does the same thing for me right? It just swaps the dll files needed to get the fsr model i choose or something?

I havent looked into it much yet. Been lazy lol

[tawny thicket]

well it lets you whitelist whatever game you'd like

[hollow kettle]

This is official from AMD software tool?

[tawny thicket]

nope. community, on github

[late ferry]

aquaticle000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow kettle]

In mafia old country my gpu is consistently staying over 3ghz clock at stock adrenalin settings

In like every other game at stock settings I swear im lucky if it hits 2.8ghz usually lol

[tropic bobcat]

its a shit optimized game, and runs on checks notes...UE5...

[hollow kettle]

It is running pretty good for me

And replacing libxess.dll files with the xess sdk dll files you can use xess frame gen on most gpus. These sdk's are such nice things

I even played at fsr/xess native 1440p all Epic settings with frame gen on getting 70-100 fps depending on area and i still didn't notice any significant ghosting or input latency on mouse & keyboard

[tropic bobcat]

what gpu?

[hollow kettle]

9070

[tropic bobcat]

thats awful...

70 - 100 with framegen is an embarrassment, 2k should be ashamed.

[hollow kettle]

2k only published and it really isnt that bad. The visuals are pretty insane imo. The low fps is justified to me

[reef zenith]

Hey it was more worth getting the 5800X3D, not having to change the moba or ram. Then it was to get a 9800X3D but having to change all 3 parts xD

[reef zenith]

The 5090 is truly a great graphics card... just don't look at the price 😉

[hollow kettle]

For 50 series i think the only i personally would consider are 5070ti and 5070

Can get 9060xt for best price to performance for anything under 5070 and anything over 5070ti might as well get 5090 lol unless 5080 super launches fr then might change things up

[reef zenith]

I was looking at 5070's and 80's.
But a 9070xt is half the cost here (roughly) and performs around the same

Comparing same brand, 5080 to 9070xt
5080 is $2500 9070xt is $1350

[hollow kettle]

Yeah it is a bit less than 5070ti in raster I think 5% and ray tracing 9070xt is still pretty good imo. Path tracing still needs redstone and probably next gen to be truly viable but it technically can be ran

[hollow kettle]

How much is 5070ti ?

[plucky quail]

I would not even touch 5070 with it bad 12GB. Thats is more a performance loss

[reef zenith]

$1900 (Going by the same brand/manufacture)

[hollow kettle]

Well here in US there are models for technically under msrp at $548.99 lol

[hollow kettle]

I would get 9070xt tbh

[reef zenith]

Oh i'm fine with the card i have 😂 But from a sheer cost pov, Amd wins for sure xD

[hollow kettle]

Wait what is cheapest 9070xt vs cheapest 5070ti vs cheapest 5080? Or is there only specific models you want? Oh nvm lol scratch that

[plucky quail]

even that is not worth it. Why would i buy NVidia if not for the RT and for that the 12GB are just not enough

[reef zenith]

Yeah was looking at same brand, same oc model. Just the chips were different 👍

[plucky quail]

Even 9070 beats it sometimes in RT just cuz of the extra 4GB

[hollow kettle]

There are still quite a few games that can play path tracing and/or ray tracing at 4k with 12gb and definitely 1440p & 1080p. Nvidia somehow uses less vram compared to radeon i swear lol voodoo magic

[plucky quail]

CP77?

[reef zenith]

Cost is a big factor, Even if the 5080 beats the 9070xt... when it costs nearly double the amount but the performance is maybe 10% more xD Well

[hollow kettle]

On my 9070 somehow when I go from psycho RT ultra everything to path tracing ultra everything I use less vram. ~13gb with psycho and ~11.5 - 12.5gb with PT

Unless that is just allocation maybe. Is FB usage % in RTSS afterburner more accurate value ?

[reef zenith]

If i had the money i'd buy a 9070xt in a heartbeat xD

[plucky quail]

Then 9070XT is the better option no? 5080 gives how much? 20% more FPS maybe so to pay 2X is not worth it

[hollow kettle]

5080 is not worth it at all for anyone idc lol it is terrible price to performance

[reef zenith]

Depends on the game of course, some games have a dif of 10fps. Some have a dif of 40

Which is not double, which is not worth double the price xD

[hollow kettle]

5080 super with more vram for like same msrp as 5080 would be the way to go for nvidia imo

[reef zenith]

But what does that resolve, It would still come down to cost no for the consumer?

[hollow kettle]

They will do same thing they did with 4080 super hopefully. 5080 super will be msrp of 5080 and 5080 will drop in price

[plucky quail]

not even then cuz we still would have the 5070TI super with same vram

[hollow kettle]

For some reason I thought 5070ti super was only getting 18gb or 16gb still. Idk for sure

[reef zenith]

@hollow kettle I will say btw, i got my 3080 at launch for $1500 AUD
Which i think was a normal price here

[plucky quail]

"Leaks" say its 24gb but if they do 5070TI with 21 or 18 it would make more sense but still the 5080S would need to stay at same price without changing the price of the 5070TI Super

[hollow kettle]

I think they will do 18gb 5070 and 18gb 5070ti super & 24gb 5080 super honestly that is my prediction. I could be totally wrong though so pls dont take this as fact 😂

Make them all the msrp of the base models and then lower base model cost slightly

That would be like printing money for nvidia lol throw 5090ti in here too with 48gb 😂

[reef zenith]

The 5090 is already $5500-6000 here xD HOW MUCH FURTHER CAN THEY GO!!! 😭

[hollow kettle]

RTX 6090 will be $5000 USD msrp

Double 5090 performance (with 16x mfg 2.0) and 33gb vram instead of 32gb

Super duper multi-wulti frame generator AI edition

[past escarp]

and will be a great fireplace that needs a little less energy, then 1 npp can produce

[coarse linden]

Unless they cripple memory bus thats bs

18gb is not possible since they dont mismatch chips

Only options really are something braindead even for nvidia 8x1GB or 8x3GB

[hollow kettle]

I thought they could do the 3gb gddr7 modules to get 18gb

[coarse linden]

256bit needs 8 chips

[hollow kettle]

My fan that is making the weird loud noise in MSI center keeps jumping up from ~900rpm to ~10000rpm every few seconds

Rear exhaust fan made like a loud grinding noise the other day and ever since it has sounded wobbly if that makes sense

It is very loud as it spins. Well, at least much louder than any of the other fans. It is almost like a whirring sound like it is straining to spin? Idk hard to describe. Just hope my fan didnt die after not even 9 months of use at 50% speed

[reef zenith]

I mean it does sound like the motor has giving up on it 🤔

[hollow kettle]

Yeah if i switch it to manual instead of Smart and set it to 75% or 100% it sounds like it is about to fly off there lol

Setting it to 100% it is bouncing between 3243 rpm wnd 2714 rpm 🤔

[reef zenith]

3000? 👀

[hollow kettle]

The only other fans of same model are my 3 intake. Setting one of those to 100% gets just under 3000 rpm but it is way more steady. Only bouncing between 2850-2992

[reef zenith]

Lordy what fans are you using that go that high rpm?

[hollow kettle]

Lol my gpu fans are over 3000 even at like 60%

I set one other intake fan to 100% and it shows only 2000 rpm

I normally just set my pump fan 100%, cpu fan 75%, the other 4 case fans on auto smart tune

[reef zenith]

2800 xD

I'd say the bearing is just gone on it 🤷‍♂️
Those are some high rpm case fans, just surprised

[hollow kettle]

It is the case fans that came in IBuyPower prebuilt lol Slate 6 Mesh. Actually not bad. Size is good for me and has very good airflow it seems. Temps always low even in a hot room. So I just kept this case for now

But yeah I never replaced a fan before. Can I just get any fan or?

[reef zenith]

Usually they are pretty universal, 120mm or 140mm.

[tropic bobcat]

Why aren't they making their own game?

These games have been historically made by Hangar 13? When did that change?

[hollow kettle]

Yeah Hangar 13 developed, 2k published

[tropic bobcat]

2K owns Hangar 13 though?

Hangar 13 is a divison of 2K.

Cfx.re is a division of Rockstar Games, same concept there, too.

[hollow kettle]

Oh lol I didn't know that

Check this out though it is hilarious 😂 https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-says-pay-smarter-and-promotes-incompatible-z890-i5-14600k-bundle

[ebon epoch]

Depends on what you consider worth it, I mean eventually we're all gonna get new mobos.

if I'm spending 300 bucks on a cpu, might as well do it on a socket I can get a couple gens out of

...then again I'm the idiot who just dropped 80 on a new motherboard in the vague hope that going from pcie 3.0 to pcie 4.0 would do anything for my framerate, so ynow

[reef zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-american-sitcom-series-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-gif-17315576

[ebon epoch]

Ah it was worth a shot. And it made for an entertaining sunday morning.

[reef zenith]

We are getting there i think, but not quite at the limit of PCIe 3 yet for gpu's

[ionic remnant]

will the super series have a higher msrp

am i cooked for buying a gpu now

[ebon epoch]

you're always cooked for buying a gpu

but yeah this gen isn't the best to upgrade in

[tawny thicket]

i dont think supers ever had higher MSRP so i doubt

[ionic remnant]

waiting 1.5 years is just such a long ass time tho

how much do you think a 7900xtx used 2 years hellhound should sell for

sold it for 600 eur

(but it was a bad model, heats quite a bit, draws 450w peak sometimes, and only maxes out with oc on 31-32k timespy + coilwhine, and no more warranty)

and bought a 5070ti for 785 eur Zotac amp extreme infinity, should have 5 years warranty if i manage to register it on their website

[plucky quail]

700€

[ionic remnant]

no way, new is 800-850

[plucky quail]

32k mhz is actually good no a bad model

[plucky quail]

But you know that people don’t want to sell that low even if 850€ is new.
Here in Germany people are greedy as hell.

[wheat perch]

lol

greedy maybe but not entirely weird

[plucky quail]

For a old entry 2017 pc they want 400€. With some I5 and 1050.

[wheat perch]

As we say here "jeden tag steht ein dummer auf" ^^

[ionic remnant]

yea i mean i kept my gpu at 800 then 700

[plucky quail]

True

[ionic remnant]

for good 3-4 months, in the end i caved for 600 quick sale fkit

[plucky quail]

One of us

[ionic remnant]

no i mean, i kept it on sale

no one was biting, some guy wanted it for 500 eur, bro's crazy

[wheat perch]

what should i set for my 2070super? 800,- grand? xD

[ionic remnant]

4k or 2k oled

i feel we aint ever handling 4k with these unoptimized games

[plucky quail]

It’s crazy you can make your offer lower than average and somehow a guy comes in and says that he wants it for 2/3 of the price

[plucky quail]

I would go on oled full in

4K 240hz oled or one where it has 2 modes for 480hz

[ionic remnant]

I prefer a native 1440p monitor than a 4k one that can do 1440p

[real kraken]

Guys is TN that bad? I found a good deal but it's TN

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/9jMOfB-_Nf4?feature=shared

[ionic remnant]

yes

[pure ibex]

It’s possible

[tawny thicket]

i mean
they are the secong most responsive panels (behind OLED) https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/knowledge-center/knowledge/how-to-choose-between-tn-va-and-ips-panels-for-the-games-you-play.html

[pure ibex]

To make a modern game run well

[ionic remnant]

remember when we used to say 1080 ti is a 4k gpu

[tawny thicket]

but they have a limited colourspace
so pick your poision

allright
time to benchbark stalker 2
and test the upsclaers

[ionic remnant]

fastforward to 2025, we pay 1k for a gpu to run a game 4k upscaled from 1080p and use frame generation to add fake frames

no point going for TN unless you are a professional fps player

[real kraken]

[pure ibex]

You can play bf6 at 1440p native res at 80 fps on medium using a b580

[ionic remnant]

really ? damn

thank god someone optimizing games, any gpu 5070+ should be able to run any game 2k high fps

oh shiii i got upgraded, now i got a blue color

[pure ibex]

Long live frostbite engine

[tawny thicket]

long live the promotion

[ionic remnant]

seems the problem comes from just UE

[plucky quail]

It’s really fast ms and you can find with high hz but not really something for story games

[plucky quail]

I say after the beta we will have more optimization from so much data

[pure ibex]

Could you imagine

[plucky quail]

I love the new dice

Also they have their own engine so not crappie UE5

[tawny thicket]

holy shit
CPU performance
HIGH preset 1080p FSR UP FG:OFF
wilderness
52 avg
38 1%
33 0.1%
first settlement
38 avg
20 1%
11 0.1%

this is damn pathetic

godamn jedi surivivor on coruscant is better

[plucky quail]

Almost forgot the 10th reason why not to buy 50 series https://youtu.be/_dUjUNrbHis?si=ksxORyQKJrn5A_tI

[plucky quail]

Even using the cpu in bf6 as a server would be faster than that XD

[ionic remnant]

isnt it also not supported on amd

[tawny thicket]

no AMD doesnt have that either

theyve Never had it
since its NGREEDIA proprietary tech

[ionic remnant]

yea so it's the same as a 9070XT

just get a 1030 to do the physX

[tawny thicket]

jeez
i forgot how bad this game was

like this game is the showcase of everything wrong with UE 5

blur, boilng, shimmering, stuttering, atrocious performance, crazy CPU requirenments, mid graphics all in a nice big package

FSR 4 even at native AA is blurry AF unless you apply in game sharpening
XeSS/TSR/TAA/FSR 2.1 are all even worse
its insane

[tawny thicket]

then there's the fact that the devs want you to compile shaders EVERY TIME you launch the game

JEEZ
JUST create a godamn shader cache that you can then use forever so you dont have to run it everytime
this serves NO purpose

and no, having a skip button doesnt excuse this
since if you skip it, you are actually just making it compile the shaders on the fly

[wheat perch]

*yawn

[ionic remnant]

Both 5070Ti
went from 900 eurPNY X-RGB OC PLUS to 790-815 eur ZOTAC AMP EXTREME Infinity

-Saved 85-110 eur (depending on cashback)
-Better cooler
-5 yrs waranty vs 3
345W vs 330W

was it worth it
first one was from amazon and ez pez, the second is from germany and a friend is sending it to me and much more of a hassle, just hope it wont have a defect

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-vegeta-rain-vegeta-sad-dbz-dragon-ball-z-gif-2167897810151461845

[tawny thicket]

https://imgur.com/a/yE0SIeH
look at this and tell me it looks good

[ionic remnant]

CPU:
    AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
    Pinnacle Ridge 12nm Technology
    Temperature: 38°C

RAM:
    16.0 GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1064 MHz (15-15-15-36)

Motherboard:
    Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI-CF (AM4)
    Temperature: 38°C

Graphics:

    K222HQL (1920x1080 @ 60Hz)
    XV270 P (1920x1080 @ 165Hz)
    3071 MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (ASUSTek Computer Inc)
    GPU Temperature: 44°C

Storage:
    232GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (SATA SSD) – 23°C
    931GB Western Digital WDC WD10JPLX-00MBPT0 (SATA) – 26°C
    238GB PC601 NVMe SK Hynix 256GB (Unknown SSD)```

i told this friendto upgrade to 5700x3d when it was 150-170 eur

but now he is having stutters, i think it's his ram right

[tawny thicket]

i think he' alwas had stutters
just that his performance was so low he couldnt notice
also, that RAM is terrible

[ionic remnant]

Apparently he disabled XMP because it was causing his screen to freeze but he could hear the game still working through his headset, he could move and everything but the image was frozen

[nimble nexus]

What LoD is that?

[tawny thicket]

Epic

[nimble nexus]

Not good enough

lol

[ionic remnant]

just activate dlss

[nimble nexus]

II got a few mods on, that extend the draw distance

that makes a huge difference, big hit on the fps though.

What GPU are you using?

[tawny thicket]

9060 XT 16GB

EPIC preset 1080p FSR AA FG:OFF
wilderness
47 avg
33 1%
15 0.1%

first settlement
37 avg
20 1%
15 0.1%

[nimble nexus]

hmmmm

have you tried TAA upscaling between 65-80% and get those numbers up.

Is FSR 4 even working properly yet S2?

[tawny thicket]

TAA upscaling ???????thats the worst of the worst, in fact it wouldnt do any upscaling at all

im using optiscaler so FSR 4 is working as intended
even if the game looks like crap IMO

[ionic remnant]

hey

[nimble nexus]

TAA? Sure it does upscalling, I use on my 9070xt

[ionic remnant]

wdym, stalker looks amazing

[tawny thicket]

are you sure you arent confusing TAA with TSR ?

[nimble nexus]

I think it is TAA

[tawny thicket]

does it have crazy ghosting on literally everything ?
if no, its not TAA

[nimble nexus]

Not noticed that

give me a few hours, and I will install the game again, just so I can get things sorted for you.

[tawny thicket]

you dont have to go that far

[nimble nexus]

its fine, having a afternoon nap

[hollow kettle]

Msrp PNY 5080 if you are in USA
I might buy one myself. A grand for only 16gb vram is hard to go through with though

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-oc-gddr7-pci-express-5-0-graphics-card-with-triple-fan-black/6616903.p

I am going to do a new build sometime before the end of the year. Make it a Christmas gift to myself. And oooo boy im going all out on it idc If I spend $5000 😁

[tawny thicket]

huh
ive restarted the game
and it looks decent again
WTH

[hollow kettle]

Should I do another build or should I get a new case, rgb, make it a updated build to better match the white/grey/rgb of my gpu. Throw 9800x3D in with New Mb and ram 🤩

[ionic remnant]

just wait 5 months for super

[plucky quail]

i think for 5K you can buy a 5090

[coarse linden]

Assuming nvidia doesnt slap extra 300 on the price sake of it

[ebon epoch]

nvidia gotta be looking at numbers and be like "huh so these rubes will buy a 5070ti for 900 bucks huh"

"we don't even need to make excuses with cryptomining or anything huh"

[ionic remnant]

they never made the super more expensive no ?

[coarse linden]

To be fair its mostly just workspace people who are screaming for that vram since they dont want to pay 5k for workspace gpu

[coarse linden]

Generally supers are more expensive

Its kinda funny really.. I know few AI startups that were bitching on forum how 5080 had only 16GB vram so they were forced to buy 20 5090 for their AI needs

[ionic remnant]

we need a 5090 super with the new 3gb vram module

[plucky quail]

Even with staying same MSRP. 5080 Super could have the "shortage" we had before. Drop feeding us

[ionic remnant]

6090 with the 3gb vram module 🗿

[coarse linden]

Doubt it will happen but you will never know

[ionic remnant]

48gb 3nm 6090

[coarse linden]

Probably how well 5070 ti super sells to show them people will absolutely buy the exactly same card with more vram

[ionic remnant]

if that doesnt run 4k there is a problem

[coarse linden]

AI startups will bot the living hell out of it because all they really need is more vram lol

We are in same hole as was with mining craze but now its just AI generated anime tiddies

[plucky quail]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-893760534078497526

[coarse linden]

Would be nice to know how many of these cards are actually backroom dealt or "fall off the truck" since how crazy these start ups act with cards it would not be surprising how they try to get a deal before cards even ship

[ionic remnant]

all of this for them to do 3nm 60 series and make the 6070 as good as the 5070ti super card

but costing the same

Rereleasing the 4070 Ti Super Extreme New edition

[ebon epoch]

4170

$600 msrp

[ionic remnant]

the 6070 will be the new 2nm 600$ msrp 4070Ti Super Extreme Ultra Plus

quote me in 1.5 years when they release

[coarse linden]

Fever dream to think it will be 600 dollars

[plucky quail]

2nm at 600(0)$?

[ebon epoch]

ynow what, you do have a point

nvidia looking at people paying 4 figures for a 5070ti like 👀

[real kraken]

"2nm" lol it's not 2nm, how they will do when it's will be lower than 1nm marketing description

[past escarp]

1000msrp for 6070, 1500 for 6070ti, 2000 for 6080 and a dirt-cheap 6090 for a fair price of just a bit over 2000$ - 4599

[nimble nexus]

I think TSR at ultra quality, upscale at 80, gives a nice performance buff...

Getting around 90FPS in the rural areas.

between 53-65 in Rostok, depending if I am moving around or not

Of course you could go as low as 60-65, and get even more perforamnce.

[tawny thicket]

another thing
im CPU limited if i use Upscaling

CPU performance
HIGH preset 1080p FSR UP FG:OFF
wilderness
52 avg
38 1%
33 0.1%

first settlement
38 avg
20 1%
11 0.1%

HIGH preset 1080p FSR AA FG:OFF
wilderness
52 avg
33 1%
23 0.1%

first settlement [CPU bottlenecked]
39 avg
22 1%
17 0.1%

can go from ultra performance mode to native AA mode without loosing performance

[ebon epoch]

I would probably play around with TSR a lot more but my poor 5600x just can't with this game

[tawny thicket]

the best part is
the game actually runs worse now than it did a year ago for me on the CPU side of things

HIGH preset 1080p FSR Q FG:OFF

wilderness
50 avg
34 1%
30 0.1%

first settlement
43 avg
22 1%
17 0.1%
a whole extra 4fps
but still

and a medium its another 6fps

[ebon epoch]

best middle ground I've been able to find myself on the 5060ti is medium present, 1440p, dlss quality.

it almost gets up to 60 fps when out and about, but most of the time it's 50-55 fps. Which is alright honestly.

then I'll get close to a village and things will slow down to a crawl but that's cpu and there's not much I'm willing to do about it

I'm just giddy to see just how shit things get once I get to sircaa

[pure ibex]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aol-ditching-dial-service-relic-internet-90s-early-00s-rcna224219

It’s over

[plucky quail]

[nimble nexus]

What CPU you got?

[tawny thicket]

R5 5500

[nimble nexus]

yeah, that ain't good at all.

have you looked into getting an upgrade?

[pure ibex]

the cache brother

join us

[ebon epoch]

to be frank, stalker 2 works like shit with anything am4 unless you're talking 5800x3d

[pure ibex]

though you may be fucked now cus am4 is finally dead

no more x3d cpus are coming

the supply finally ran out

[ebon epoch]

and I see very little point in dropping 300 bucks on a top of the line cpu on a deprecated socket

it really does suck that a game launched in 2024 is basically incapable of running decently on am4 but it is what it is

[pure ibex]

with sky rocketing ram prices

as samsung also recently finally turned off the tap for ddr4

[ionic remnant]

running valo on igpu of 7800x3d

what a chad igpu, really wanna see intel celestial

[pure ibex]

im excited to see the possible dual ccd v cache cpu drop

bf6 might be the first game that could take advantage of it

[hollow kettle]

What do you guys think for new build? Hopefully you can see my parts list. It is mainly for productivity and AI tasks. Plus i want to get into CAD and maybe some 3D design stuff
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/swanny098/saved/#view=VfnkjX

[tawny thicket]

been thinking about it

either 7600 or 5700X3D at this point

[plucky quail]

Kinda looks like it with it using all of my cores and from people with 9950x also using 100%

[pure ibex]

it does the same for my 7950x3d

[plucky quail]

Intel now also like activating brain cells with their 3d with 2 ccd versions and amd doing the same.

[plucky quail]

You know you could do the gamble and wait for zen6 and if they are fire you could buy that or you do a really low end cpu am5 jump with a 8400f

[coarse linden]

Only thing intel is doing is laying off its people and halting building fabs

[plucky quail]

BUT they now realized 3d is the future what they denied half a year ago them saying that there is no worries cuz they are so “dominant “

[flat brook]

I was pleasantly surprised with how smooth BF6 ran last weekend, 1% lows were great and CPU/GPU usage were extremely steady on max settings

[hollow kettle]

this is my actual list. sent wrong thing earlier https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hstK9C
what do you guys think?

[coarse linden]

I mean i just laugh anyone buying intel cpu's so i dont really have any input

[plucky quail]

Me personally I would say it’s not a good build. First you would pay in to a dead platform. Maybe wait till next gen intel.

Second I really don’t know what exactly productivity means

[hollow kettle]

Why? It is not a gaming rig. Well, it is but it aint lol

[plucky quail]

But still dead platform and what you can get out of amd

[hollow kettle]

By time i would need to upgrade cpu there will be one socket change anyway so that really is no issue for me personally

Idk which ryzen cpu would match 265k in video editing and AI and stuff and still cost around same price

[plucky quail]

Doubt cuz if the talks about next gen intel are real then they would have 4 gens on one platform

[plucky quail]

Pretty much every cpu that has more than 8 cores

The top productivity charts are 9950x and intel with its 9 whatever number in sec

[hollow kettle]

for $280 usd idk any ryzen that can match the productivity performance but i havent looked that hard into it. Just seems like with the intel price cuts this 265k might be best budget option for productivity

[plucky quail]

What do you mean productivity first place like davici? Adobe?

[hollow kettle]

Adobe premium pro, LLMs and generative AI stuff, trying to get into learning CAD

[plucky quail]

What abbreviation is CAD?

AI?

[hollow kettle]

"CAD, or Computer-Aided Design, is a technology that uses computer systems to assist in the creation, modification, analysis, and optimization of a design."

from google: "It's used by engineers, architects, and designers to create precise 2D and 3D drawings and models for various applications, from buildings and machinery to entire cities."

[plucky quail]

Ah that thing. Is your budget 3k or like before 5k?

[hollow kettle]

trying to keep close to 3k as possible lol

[coarse linden]

Is this something like a momentary fancy or long term commitment?

[hollow kettle]

what do you mean? i had to change monitor and motherboard now here is updated list if u wanna see https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NXqBnp

[plucky quail]

Yea that’s also something cuz you could start with low end system like the 14600k that you have now. It’s still really good and capable cpu. As long you have k version and not f you can try experimenting with the igpu.
You just need to upgrade your gpu even for more simple things.

Beginner don’t need a really high end cpu, gpu because you gonna run ai and that is dirty slow on 8gb

[coarse linden]

I mean if this is long term situation get bigger PSU

Since eventually wall will come and you get something as stupid as 90 class to speed up things

[hollow kettle]

there is same be quiet! 12M model in 1000w

[plucky quail]

If you tho really insist on u7 I would get faster ram ngl else it makes it useless

[hollow kettle]

but that puts me $3023

[coarse linden]

PSU is the longest lasting part on your pc along with the case tbh

[hollow kettle]

with gigabyte z890 eagle motherboard cant i OC cpu and ram if i want?

I was going to just get 48gb ram but idk if it is enough for the stuff im wanting to do

[plucky quail]

There is extra ram for intel you can buy for 8000+ mhz but I don’t know the pricing rn

[hollow kettle]

Do you know what it is called?

[coarse linden]

I mean ram is easy enough to switch in future

[plucky quail]

I don’t remember but I bet pleb knows

[coarse linden]

I do?

[plucky quail]

I guessed since you hate intel that much that u would know it in and out

[plucky quail]

It’s called cu-dimm

[coarse linden]

Ohhh that

I mean AMD doesnt use it yet so its kinda irrelevant to me lol

[plucky quail]

240€ for 8400mhz and 48gb

[coarse linden]

Kinda salty price

[plucky quail]

Imo only thing I would buy with ultra CPUs

[plucky quail]

Yea but not far from his 180$

And mine is Germany maybe cheaper in us

[coarse linden]

Question here is is the speed or amount more relevant for the workload?

[plucky quail]

Depending on the task

[coarse linden]

Since for that price you can go to 64

Or even 96 kits i have seen at that price

Still think its heretical to have 48 and 96GB ram lol

[tropic bobcat]

Intel is great. If they’d stop being silly.

[coarse linden]

They just need to get their head out of their rear

[tropic bobcat]

What is this for? This is quite overpriced.

[coarse linden]

Workstation more or less

[tropic bobcat]

Samsung 9100 is…an odd choice.

[plucky quail]

True but we are talking about a cpu that is actually under delivering with that ram.
Or least buy faster ones. And intel can get really fast with cu beating amd at productivity tho idk how gaming is going vs 3d

[hollow kettle]

265k in gaming is within a few % of my 13600kf

[coarse linden]

Cheapest 4TB PCIe 5.0 m.2 im guessing

[hollow kettle]

the 9100 pro is -26% off on amazon

[coarse linden]

So... Cheapest lol

[tropic bobcat]

Why does it need to be 5.0?

[coarse linden]

AI shenanigans probably

[hollow kettle]

$349 for 4tb gen 5 m.2 nvme. For these tasks like CAD i think it is better

not for sure though. I only remember that ssd is what you want for CAD

But idk if that meant any ole 2.5 sata ssd or what

[plucky quail]

I would say you right on gaming but he going to move large data and 5.0 comes handy

[tropic bobcat]

Such as?

[plucky quail]

Adobe AI and 3d design.

[hollow kettle]

Yeah the AI stuff i think benefits from those faster r/w speeds i think. I know for sure 3D rendering and 4k/8k video editing would benefit from gen 5. Gen 4is still plenty good dont get me wrong. Just might as well get the gen5 if it can help with the things i plan to do and it is within budget

[coarse linden]

Well my 2 cents is just that get enough headroom with the PSU. Once you know more about your workloads you know what you need and it helps if power delivery is there in place because its always pain in the rear to swap it out later

[plucky quail]

Cudimms are actually affordable in the us

150 for 8000 32gb

[coarse linden]

Now thats more decent

[hollow kettle]

Yeah I got the be quiet 1000w psu now instead of 750w

[late ferry]

aquaticle000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ionic remnant]

i am super hyped for the next gen intel cpus' igpu

[nimble nexus]

I would upgrade to an AM5 to behonest.

I got my 7900, RAM, MB on a bundle sale from scan... Saved £150

[tawny thicket]

really low end AM5 isnt exactly on the table as an option for me

[tawny thicket]

plus, the 8400F is yet again, a sabotaged 7600

so then im back at square 1

[tawny thicket]

sabotage in this case means : has half the cache it should

[plucky quail]

just meant for you to be on am5 for next gen for a really low price or a 7500f. Both would be a Upgrade for you.

[tawny thicket]

fun fact
optiscaler devs are working on integrating XeFG into OptiFG
and i have a build of it 😎

XeFG: 70fps +79%
FSR FG: 72fps +84%
native: 39fps

XeFG is so much lighter than i expected

[real kraken]

Let's go!!! GSC listen to us!

[plucky quail]

Yea right just year later

[ionic remnant]

any chance for texture packs for stalker ?

[plucky quail]

Cant you change LOD bias on Nvidia? Do that

[real kraken]

Megalight from 5.5 will be absolute cinema if they use it

Increase Lumen performance

[tawny thicket]

the biggest improvement will be CPU performance

[real kraken]

Yeah, that's nice

And also they might use the procedural maybe (that come with 5.2)

[ebon epoch]

being able to run zalissya at 60 fps gon be yuge

[past escarp]

finally this game will work properly(it should`ve been like this from the beginning)

[real kraken]

Yeah

I hope so

[tawny thicket]

for some reason UE devs have only really focused on increasing CPU performance so far

[ebon epoch]

I mean you can only improve from "zero"

[tawny thicket]

XYZ

remake it with percentages.

[plucky quail]

The uplift don’t count the updates till it. Only the switch update

[tawny thicket]

untill you do i refuse to vote

[plucky quail]

They supposed to be % but i forgor @%

[tawny thicket]

i'd say 15% for CPU and 5% on GPU

[plucky quail]

10% isn’t even that much at 60fps but those Hubs gonna be nicht better I would say.

[hollow kettle]

It just seems more stable and less artifacts/latency than fsr fg imo

[tawny thicket]

it has less artifacts
latency is the same if its XeFG + XeLL VS FSR FG + AL2

plus it can interpolate UI
which means that developer skill issue cant harm it as much as FSR FG

[hollow kettle]

From what I hear, anti lag 2 isnt working in cyberpunk properly. But I heard that before 25.8.1 so idk if it changed

Which is why i switched to use xess fg and XeLL in the first place. I also like how it gives you a frame rate target slider for XeLL in that game

[tawny thicket]

well
in cyberpank FSR FG is just straightup broken too

[ionic remnant]

Apparently 7900XTX 3 cables can spike draw 525 W

I had the wrong 7900XTX

[paper parcel]

wassup guys. Pretty new to stalker, basically never played before. Anyways, I have a relatively ok pc, i5 10400, rtx 3060, 24gb of ram. The game has horrible framerates, and I am not sure if its a problem with the fact that im using arch, or if my system is inadequate. Can anyone assist? I get around 30-45 frames on 2k low with dlss on performance, and i get the same framerates on 1080p medium settings. if i enable fsr then i do hit 60 frames, but it still looks kinda janky.

*please note that while the game is native to linux, I am forced to run it through proton since steam is acting like an ass and doesnt let me close the global compatibility for games.

[pure ibex]

which 3060 do you have

[paper parcel]

the gigabyte 12g OC rev.2

[pure ibex]

oh i see

your heavily cpu limited

sorry friend

[paper parcel]

hmmmm

[pure ibex]

if the fps doesn't change between resolutions typically that means your cpu just can't hack it

[paper parcel]

but that doesnt really make sense to me. If that's the case, how come my CPU is at about 30-40% but my gpu is constantly at 99%?

[pure ibex]

oh

[paper parcel]

I know, I know, but my graphs show otherwise

I think the culprit is Arch, but I dont have dual boot to test it, It seems like thats gonna be my project for the weekend.

[pure ibex]

oh your gaming on linux

yah i got no idea

[paper parcel]

Yeah, its okay, thanks for assisting tho, much appreciated

[plucky quail]

You might gain FPS with better driver on the windows side.

Also you dont really see if you are CPU limited by looking at % of you CPU. You need to look at the GPU. Anything below 90% is CPU limited

[vagrant shell]

#note a rather prolific youtuber i religiously follow very recently ran a linux vs windows benchmark on very similar hardware.
bottom line was that linux suffered 10-20% worse performance for no apparent reason.
you being on linux certainty not helping is a valid assumption

On a my previous config of Ryzen 7 5800x3d, 3060ti and 32GB Ram i got roughly the same performance you got on 2k with medium ish settings.
#That was on release.

Now with the same ryzen and ram but a 5070 i get 60-70 fps on 2k epic settings. edit/dlaa no fg
The 60 is simply not that hot, it running worse on 2k kinda confirms that.
That should take weight of the cpu incase of a bottleneck there.

[hearty belfry]

Guys when do you think the team will be done with upgrading to ue 5.5.4?

[vagrant shell]

The only thing i would f kill for now personally is better latency, gods knows why mine sucks ass like this.

[past escarp]

who knows honestly. as far as i know - no games were updated from one ue5 to later version. maybe they`ll need to update their plugins that were made specifically for s2, maybe there will be a lot of problems, but maybe it will be a very smooth update and nothing will break and everything will be working with better performance

[tropic bobcat]

It’s going to take a long long while.

[reef zenith]

It's certainly not a "click one button and everything works perfectly fine" type of thing xD

[plucky quail]

Gonna be last min update before Q1

[ebon epoch]

They say it's a target for 2025. I expect it to somehow get delayed until Feb/Mar 26

But I hope I'm wrong

[spare coral]

Super cpu limited
I had a i5 11400f before and i upgraded to a 12600k and the game runs way smoother now on my rx 6700

[tawny thicket]

ive seen 2 games upgrade their version of UE 5
and theres a massive diference in how well* the 2 dev teams did it

[plucky quail]

How?

[tawny thicket]

one game did it pretty much perfectly (Game: Satisfactory 5.2 to 5.3)
no bugs, no major crashing issues, and better performance AFAIK
the other one was the complete opposite (game: ARK smear ascended 5.2 to 5.5)
a lot of bugs, lots of crashes, terrible performance for some systems, and worse performance for most (by like 30%)

[tawny thicket]

how-well*
i'll edit the comment

[tawny thicket]

ARK was already a mess before the upgrade, it just became more of a mess
Satisfactory was already mostly bugs free, it just got even less buggy, that game did release from early access to 1.0 though

[reef zenith]

Ark had/has many a performance issue xD
All they did there was polish the graphics

[tawny thicket]

so it is very similar to stalker

[reef zenith]

Well no? Stalker 2 doesn't have a "ascended" edition xP

[tawny thicket]

similar in that they are both a buggy unoptimized mess.

[reef zenith]

Eh, true. But ark way more so xD

Really my only complaint with Stalker 2 is performance 😝
Solve/mitigate that, and i'm set (More set) xD

[tawny thicket]

i beg to differ
in ARK my CPU can get 60fps without having much of an issue
in stalker im stuck between 30 and 40

AND ARK looks MUCH better

[ionic remnant]

man

i wish i could make my 5070ti draw like a 3x8 power connector 7900XTX (they can spike up to 530W)
I feel so much juice is left on the table for the 5070ti because of its 300W tdp and it being coded in a way not to go over it

how safe is GPU shunt modding

[plucky quail]

50/50

50% your GPU dies and 50% you die

[ionic remnant]

Bellic

your 7900xtx is 3 or 2 power connector

[ionic remnant]

i just want the gpu to think it's drawing 300W when it's drawing 330-350W

[plucky quail]

3 more power more heating

I have it tho now a -10% so that the summer heat doesnt kill me

[ionic remnant]

one of the reasons i sold mine

[plucky quail]

so 350w

[ionic remnant]

but yea apparently the 3 cable one has a lot more room for OC and just flat out better perf

i love how amd just let the card take as much power as it needs, nvidia doesnt let us because they are nerfing the performance ffs

[plucky quail]

I guess i coulnt do anything against the summer heat. I could have a 400W PC and i would still sweet

[ionic remnant]

you can disable your igpu man

[plucky quail]

That would not change anything

[ionic remnant]

it does remove 30W

[plucky quail]

vs 600W?

[ionic remnant]

hey man, trust me any small step helps

it can also help you reduce the heat outputed by your cpu

so your cooler can handle it more easily

[plucky quail]

IGPU doing nothing anyway. I cant imagine it using more than 2W doing 0% work

[ionic remnant]

check it

a friend of mine was monitoring his 9800x3d igpu and it was consuming like 20W on idle

[plucky quail]

That might be just AMD idle Power usage

[ionic remnant]

ngl unless dlss 4.5 offers massive perf increase, i think imma get a 1440p oled and not 4k

[plucky quail]

OK Either i did something wrong or Riva is wrong

No world is a igpu using 120W

Its using the total power of the CPU

[ionic remnant]

I told you nico

Turn it off, i am here to save you from the heat

[plucky quail]

I did it! YES @pure ibex Riva works on BF6 now.

[pure ibex]

Total chud victory

[plucky quail]

Its using 0.3v idk how much amp

[plucky quail]

Now this week BF6 more Benchmarking

and better with better Avg stat. They still need bit better UI on Steam else its fine for one that just want to check quick

[pure ibex]

Afterburner will never be defeated

The broken corpses of all who have stood against the might riva tuner lay forgotten in the foot notes of history

[plucky quail]

See you on the Battlefield Riva

[pure ibex]

💯

[vagrant shell]

if you smoother it in thermal puddy like that one dude yyou can still aircool.
he hit 9th place on the boards with aircooling on a i think 5090 shunt.
looked like a toddler put playdo all over his pcb thou

https://wccftech.com/shunt-modded-air-cooled-rtx-5090-achieves-top-rankings-in-3dmark-tests/

[vagrant shell]

2k is imo the perfect compromise between high framerate and good fidelity.

unless you play only certained titles you will never use those 4k displays to the extend they are rated for with max settings

[ionic remnant]

Mmmm yea i might get a 1440p oled

it's just that i find upscalers work so much better on 4k + you need less AA on 4k

i am a bit sad i dont wait 4 more months for a 5070ti super but oh well 4months without a gpu is rough

that is if in 4months it will release at a decent price

[vagrant shell]

i have a bit of a crummy 2k msi 32 inch panel and i personally love it.
looks great and is letting my 5070 stretch its legs without curbstomping it even in stalker 2.
i def only use 70%of the display without fg thou

buts its a budget midrange card

[vagrant shell]

im a bit bumped i bought my 70 recently when they just now annouced the supers.
but i waited 6-7 months drooling while suffering with a 3060ti so i pulledd the trigger

there is always chasing better, it is what it is

[ionic remnant]

i mean a few months ago

buying a gpu wasnt even an option the prices were so bad
so like you feel when the prices were finally good they say oh we're releasing the super in 4months

[late ferry]

idiot8364 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vagrant shell]

#my bad
i guess not being a saudi kinda blows but it did since 30s release

[ionic remnant]

what did you say

[vagrant shell]

f word sucks*

[vagrant shell]

#note: i would argue 4k on a 70ti is the same thing as 2k on a 60ti.

it works but honestly not that well.
2k is the way

[ionic remnant]

Well thing is, its only valid on 4K if there is dlss

Cz 4k dlss on performance is better than 1440p on quality

In terms of image quality

[ionic remnant]

let's say in 1 year,
can i do that without the shunt just add thermal padding everywhere and change thermal paste, you think it will change something ?

[plucky quail]

If you do that why not just upgrade your Vram with 3GB ones

[ionic remnant]

too risky xD

and i genuinely think 16gb is a lot of vram for 1440p, it's more the 350W tdp that i want from the 5070ti super

[vagrant shell]

the reason you shunt is to force more power draw.
more power = more heat = bigger need for heat absorption.
i dont think you gonna get far without that.

if your scared of bricking your card i would say just live in the constraints.
i personally dont think its worth the risk.

[ionic remnant]

i see

sadge
i wanted the 4070ti super duper extreme

guess I will have to settle for super duper

[plucky quail]

👆🏼 🤓 RAY TRACING

[plucky quail]

Super duper it will be

[ionic remnant]

i just wanted my super duber to be ++

[tawny thicket]

DLSS 4.5 wont magically make your GPU faster

[plucky quail]

Nvidia Magic

[tawny thicket]

Jedi survivor will change your mind

i get 15GB of VRAM usage at 1080p without RT

[ionic remnant]

with dlss ?

[plucky quail]

he has only 1080P

[ionic remnant]

sounds like a shit game made on ue5.1

[tawny thicket]

its UE 4.26 actually

[ionic remnant]

1080p with dlss quality / ultra quality

[tawny thicket]

no
FSR 4 native at 1080p

[ionic remnant]

you should be able to run anything with any modern gpu

[plucky quail]

Indiana is using lot of vram too.

Spiderman 2 also

[ionic remnant]

sad

my 5070ti will have to do the job

[coarse linden]

Will be just fine

Only game i have managed to get to use 11GB vram was Cyperpunk with path tracing at 1440p

[tawny thicket]

bruh
cyberprank uses 13GB with RT phsyco at 1080p with FSR 4 Q for me

and you are saying it doesnt use more than 11 with PT at 1440p

[ionic remnant]

sounds like an fsr skill issue

[coarse linden]

I mean sucks to be you but that is what the software tells me. 12.8GB allocated

[tawny thicket]

did you just try to bait me ? 😠

[tawny thicket]

welp
maybe its something to do with NGREEDIA using less VRAM than AMD ?

[coarse linden]

Could be

[ionic remnant]

hahaha my ragebait worked

[pure ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[ionic remnant]

maybe it will

okay imma stop

i should receive the new 5070ti in the next few days

probably saturday

fingers crossed we win the silicone lottery

[pure ibex]

All us 9070 xt buyers seem to have lost the lottery

Mf caps out at 3.4ghz

[tawny thicket]

thats only 100mhz higher than my stock 9060XT

[pure ibex]

I hoped we’d get like 4ghz but sadly no

But I think the fact it hard caps

Makes me think something is limiting it

On purpose

Silicon is limited intentionally in some way

[ionic remnant]

that's how i felt with my 7900xtx

i couldnt OC it

[past escarp]

Make it like fx - 8ghz

[pure ibex]

Well that card ocs like mad

Can get to like 3.2ghz form 2.6ghz

With unlocked power limit

[pure ibex]

They don’t even hold the record

14900ks has nearly cracked 10ghz

[ionic remnant]

but mine didnt so

[pure ibex]

Did you disable the power limit?

[ionic remnant]

i increased the powerlimit and everything but mine was 2x power connector not 3

[past escarp]

It doesnt matter

[ionic remnant]

it reached 450W peak

[pure ibex]

Rookie numbers

Try 700 watts

[past escarp]

My card foes only 288w

But its not ocd

[pure ibex]

Unfortunate

You need to modify the card

To reach its full power

GOTTA BREAK OUT DA IRON

And solder 3 wires

[ionic remnant]

yes i modified it, it is now sold

[pure ibex]

Did you attached an evc2

[ionic remnant]

i sold it for 600 eur

[pure ibex]

Understandable

[pure ibex]

What card you got

[ionic remnant]

5070ti for 780 euro Zotac Amp Extreme Infinity

[ionic remnant]

my 7900xtx had coilwhine, high temps, meh silicone and wasnt under waranty anymore, i dont regret it

just wish it sold a bit later that way i would have waited for 5070 ti super

[pure ibex]

Forgot the “and knuckles” at the end

[pure ibex]

Thankfully my 9070 xt doesn’t make any noise

[ionic remnant]

so all in all paid 180 eur for the same card (with OC it gets same perf as my 7900xtx hellhound) but Nvidia and 5 years waranty + no coilwhine + no high temps

[pure ibex]

Oh you had a hell hound

Those are kinda known for being shit

[ionic remnant]

i felt it deeply

[pure ibex]

The liquid devil is the one people want

Thing is the highest bin you can get

[ionic remnant]

Not the Sapphire Nitro+ OC ?

[pure ibex]

Nah

The liquid devils were binned even higher

They were limited edition

[ionic remnant]

ah it's a liquid cooler (hence the name)

[pure ibex]

Nah it’s for custom loop cooling

It comes with a pre affixed water block

[ionic remnant]

genuinely think that a 7900xtx made on 3nm will be insane

[pure ibex]

Rdna5

[ionic remnant]

so the 10900XTX or whatever they decide calling

[pure ibex]

Mother Radeon give us what we desire