pc-specs

[tawny thicket]

oh
probably cuz the game stops rendering in menus

would have been easier to send this video in hindsight
https://imgur.com/a/qqstMuU

[hollow kettle]

I set to dlaa CNN model and my game crash when try to run benchmark. Optiscaler was set to fsr 4.0.0

I ran it with fsr 3 native AA and it didn’t seem to override

Oh well I’ll mess with it more later. I am going to play some games before I have to go to work xD thank you for the help. I think I understand it now

[tawny thicket]

FSR 4 doesnt seem to have a model for native AA thus you have to run at least the quality mode

[hollow kettle]

Okay so should I use it fsr 3 quality in game or dlss quality

[tawny thicket]

and you do have to select FSR 4 in optiscaler

[hollow kettle]

Yes I have the fsr 4 set in optiscaler

[tawny thicket]

it should look better with DLSS/XeSS inputs

[hollow kettle]

Okay I will try xess later. But for fans like kcd2 it only have fsr & dlss

[tawny thicket]

IIRC that games has FSR 3.1 so it should just work with FSR inputs

i guess my RX 6600 can run RT reflections fairly well in 2077 With FSR Q

im getting a consistent 60fps

or
at least it did in the opening part of the game

well i mean until i got on the AV

[woeful umbra]

@flat brook following the aftermath of my purchase of a 4070ti super.
I'm now also awaiting a new motherboard b650, 32gb ddr5, a deepcool ak620 cpu cooler + a bunch o' fans and a amd 7 7800x3d cpu.

Plus I bought a new monitor. Alienware aw3225qf, 32", qd-oled, 4k, 240hz

Things are movin😅🥰 we're gamin now boys

[tawny thicket]

i soooo desprately want a new GPU

that has at least 12GB of VRAM

[woeful umbra]

I'm a complete noob at pc building. I just had some extra cash from my new years eve shift and figured I'd get a new gpu. Upgraded from a rtx 2060.

It was from a pre built pc I bought in 2021.

Figured I'd just switch the gpu (cause again I am a complete noob) only to find out tha a gpu needs a good Cpu pairing. And to have a good pair for my 4070ti super, I needed a cpu that needed a newer motherboard than what I had, which also needed new RAM sticks (ddr4 to ddr5), then since its a good cpu, it also produces more heat, so I need a new cpu cooler and tossed in a bunch of fans for extra airflow. Then I realized to even get the most out of this I needed a new monitor that could actually show me what all of this meant 🤣

[flat brook]

Good stuff mate! You’ll enjoy it

[woeful umbra]

I'm in crippling debt but i'll have so much fun while drowning in it🤣

[tawny thicket]

its a scam
spoofed link

[maiden sinew]

!ban 508383966407950351 steam scam

[late ferry]

Dummy#0000 has been banned

Reason: steam scam

[maiden sinew]

ill get it in a sec

[tawny thicket]

it'd also be nice to delete the message too 😉 (the scam message)

[hollow kettle]

the base game runs good but if you get dlc and head to dogtown thats when it gets demanding

[maiden sinew]

m y discord is so fucking laggy bro

[tawny thicket]

thx

[hard juniper]

yeah dogtown is super demanding

[plucky quail]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

My pc is working holy!!!

Hard work but it did

[late ferry]

intimiderp has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

with RDNA 4 having pretty impressive ML IMO
would there be a way to make DLSS run on AMD cards ?

[flat brook]

Worth it

[tawny thicket]

well
maybe i am the poll boy

what a """""

[coarse linden]

What you mean "maybe" ?

[tawny thicket]

😤

i hate you guys 🤬

[coarse linden]

Nah you love us

[hazy idol]

really not ever gonna beat the poll boy accusations

[tawny thicket]

@pure ibex i hate you

[pure ibex]

lmfao

[tawny thicket]

😤 🤬

[vestal tusk]

pollboy..

[spare coral]

After playing silent hill 2 remake i can say stalker 2 runs better

[serene meteor]

for who got a 5070 Ti insted a cheaper 9700XT This song
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ciED588h8Os

[hard juniper]

unfortunately that's because silent hill actually looks really good, while stalker is just optimised like ass

[thorny remnant]

I don't know how I should value the looks in Stalker 2

Close up is amazing but a bit of distance and it is significantly worse (in particular the grass is so pixelated I wonder if Stalker soc is better)

And TAA/TSA doing it's things
Also what really annoyed me last time was as soon the view moves
The entire picture changes brightnis for a Split second

Unreal engine 5
Seems to be the Cyber truck of game engines

[hard juniper]

it's honestly so hit or miss

most of the time i think it looks alright, in very specific scenarios it's almost photorealistic, but in others it looks like a ps3 game

so it's not like we can even say it's demanding because of the graphical fidelity

[jovial sage]

personally, stalker 2 looks like every other triple a game thats come out in the last decade, another photorealistic game

i dont mind it for stalker 2 but it makes a lot of games look the same so its not exactly impressive or interesting.

[plucky quail]

Stalker don’t Look bad but also not good. It’s in both states at the same time.
And the look does not justify performance. It’s not that good to run that bad

[hollow kettle]

I wish game devs would go for more unique art style instead of photo realism

Example would be sunset overdrive, no man’s sky, borderlands, etc

[hollow kettle]

Bro every setting Epic using FSR native AA 1440p and still get that pop in of foliage :/ there is just no fixing it I guess

https://imgur.com/U7getqs
looks pretty dang good otherwise at least

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/tyHyiqJ
npc models look insanely good compared to what i saw before. Man this pc is going to keep me happy for long time

[polar mountain]

70% of the time it looks mid

[uneven portal]

Being completely honest, STALKER 2 is one of those games that are great for taking screenshots but not for actually playing. The fact that Lumen is so slow affects it a lot.

[hard juniper]

lumen is a curse

genuinely some of the worst and most inconsistent lighting i've seen outside of screenshots

[tawny thicket]

when you guys talk about lumen noise in Stalker 2
i feel like i am blind
cuz i never see it : (

[hard juniper]

i'll see if i get some footage when i play again

lots of noise, lots of ghosting (?) like you get crazy smearing and it takes a moment for the lighting to "update"

see it in almost every ue5 game to some extent, it's horrible. We see all those amazing beautiful demos with ue5, but when it comes to making a game most of them just look worse than what we had before

and the games still run like shit despite looking like shit

[polar mountain]

no ghosting if you use DLAA

[uneven portal]

fakeeee

[spare coral]

Both are optimized like ass tho
Ton of stuttering and random memory leaks (had to restart the game for it to go back to 60fps and that didnt happen on stalker 2 for me)
Also the ghosting is crazy unless you can use DLSS in sh2

[polar mountain]

nah it was close to no ghosting when i was using it on 5070ti, dlss quality introduced heavy ghosting, fg/mfg on vs off couldnt see any impact

[uneven portal]

look you are not the only one with one of the new nvidia graphics, go into a building and go out you will see the ghosting of the lighting, the same with the foliage etc etc....

[spare coral]

He doesnt have the 5070ti anymore to test it tho lmao

[hard juniper]

i didn't really have any issues with silent hill 2 after the first few optimisation passes, i played a couple months after release

but even still, my point is just that it at least looks good

rather play a good looking game with poor optimisation, than a bad looking game with the same issues

[spare coral]

Oh yeah, it does look great and far better than stalker 2 in most areas lol

Just mad that it was eating all my vram after 30 minutes of playing even with medium or low textures (that was really weird)

[hard juniper]

valid yeah it definitely had its problems from what i saw

[uneven portal]

The ghosting in Lumen is mainly caused by its temporal accumulation, so it doesn’t matter which GPU you are using or which version of DLAA (which the 4000 series also supports); it still cannot be solved. DLAA smooths edges and eliminates the need for TAA, but the issue with Lumen remains

What you stop noticing are things like weapon ghosting caused by TAA, but everything related to Lumen still happens. Simply saying that DLAA removes ghosting is ridiculous.

[polar mountain]

i tested it in pripyat at 50-60fps dlaa

looked fine and really clear, much more stable than DLSS Quality, the only option that introduced shimmering/temporal instability/ghosting was any kind of DLSS, really noticeable and horrible on fences/windows

i was using ray reconstruction mod too

[tawny thicket]

meaybe, whenever i saw ghosting i just went straight to blaming FSR : )

[tawny thicket]

what i find weird is that in SatisFactory Lumen is way less noisy if i use FSR than if i use TAA/XeSS/TSR

[polar mountain]

FSR4 doesnt look great either but we have to wait for official implementation, Horizon Forbidden West looks really good and I prefer FSR4 over DLSS Transformer on it, looks much more natural and not oversharpened like DLSS even with sharpness set to 0

[uneven portal]

It’s easier to calculate lighting in simpler environments than in an open world with unnecessary polygons and excessive vegetation, not to mention that it overuses nanite (dosent help).

[tawny thicket]

uh K
i didnt mention anything about that

i just said that in SF changing the AA method also changed *lumen noise

[uneven portal]

Well, what I mean is that if the base of Lumen is more stable, it’s normal that it affect the use of TAA/XES, etc

[lusty scarab]

Does anyone know if I put an SSD with windows on it from a laptop into a desktop. Will that work? Like will windows work as normal in the desktop in comparison to how it works in the laptop?

[flat brook]

Your hardware IDs will change, causing windows to deactivate.

There’s some quick ways around this with the command prompt if you Google for a bit though

[lusty scarab]

Can you send me a link with the instuctions?

[flat brook]

Besides that, drivers etc might not work properly out of the gate, so you’ll have to atleast update/reinstall those for the appropriate hardware.

[lusty scarab]

Ah yes that's true. Might not be worth the hassle

[opaque moat]

you cant put a pre installed ssd from a laptop to a desktop without wiping it first

[flat brook]

Just Google “activate windows through command prompt”

I’m not gonna share a link that’s explaining you how to technically pirate it

[lusty scarab]

Fair enough

[flat brook]

But this, I’ve done it plenty of times but it can be a chore if something doesn’t wanna play nice

[lusty scarab]

But I think I'll just do a clean install because I don't want the hassle with having the wrong drivers, deleting them and then installing the proper ones for the hardware.

Although it would be nice to have all the installed apps in my windows drives already installed 🤔

[hard juniper]

there's software you can get that auto installs the essentials, you can pick from a list

[flat brook]

I copied all my data/applications/appdata over to a seperate drive, wiped my OS drive, reinstalled, then copied everything back over

This omits things like drivers, but allows you to keep your data as is

[lusty scarab]

Ninite right?

[hard juniper]

something like that

[tawny thicket]

well
Lumen in SF is anything but stable

[uneven portal]

Well, for what Lumen is usually used for and what we're accustomed to

[tawny thicket]

especially reflections look awfull in the base game
https://imgsli.com/MzU5NTY2

https://imgsli.com/MzU5NTY3
https://imgsli.com/MzU5NTgw
https://imgsli.com/MzU5NTgz

[uneven portal]

I think many studios using Lumen should combine it with classic systems because, in terms of reflections, I've seen Xbox 360 games look better.

[uneven portal]

Doesn’t it affect performance?

[tawny thicket]

well
SF technically doesnt support lumen

[tawny thicket]

or
its more of a Beta feature

[uneven portal]

Hasn't it been around for like 7 months already?

[tawny thicket]

the tweaks ? nope
INI edits :
52fps on avarege
23fps 1% low (AKA : stutters, do note that its a UE 5 game)

Vanilla lumen High preset
53fps on average
23fps 1% low

[uneven portal]

wow

[tawny thicket]

yeah (in EA since 2019), but the game doesnt use lumen on any preset

and when they first added it they said that they arent officially supporting it

so i dont think they intend you to use it

[tawny thicket]

the INI edit
[SystemSettings]
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.MaxFramesAccumulated=25
r.Lumen.Reflections.Temporal.MaxFramesAccumulated=256
r.Lumen.Reflections.SmoothBias=0.8
r.AOGlobalDistanceField.MinMeshSDFRadius=1

[tawny thicket]

even though lumen adds lights to a LOT of surfaces

[uneven portal]

in games like Stalker 2, instead of leaving all the work to Lumen, they could let Lumen handle the directional lighting (like sunlight) and handle the lighting for things like ceiling lamps in a more traditional way?

Honestly, every time I see those reflections and that performance, I think Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition achieved more with less.

[hard juniper]

yeah metro exodus to this day being one of the best ray traced games is a whole statement

[uneven portal]

and it was playable on a 2060, if you update the dlss version of that game it looks better than anything current (only the textures lag behind).

[hard juniper]

really feels like we've gone backwards in a lot of areas

[uneven portal]

it seems that the developers save a lot in some areas and put too much in others (graphics)

[hollow kettle]

I guess stalker 2 in game pass version doesn’t register with adrenaline. I found the exe file and it is labeled as “gamingservicesui.exe” added it to adrenaline and thats all it shows as 😅

[hollow kettle]

Just got memory leak again. 99% memory usage and windows message pop up saying “your device is running low on memory” gonna try verify & repair files again hopefully it fixes it same as last time

Yep I think that work again

[late ferry]

alvaroabc has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

get wolf'd

[hollow kettle]

I tested AFMF and with max settings on helldivers 2 I went from 90-110 fps to 200-250 fps. Smooth as butter gameplay. Gonna try it in stalker 2 also if it lets me

5ms FG lag

[tawny thicket]

the one game i want to use AFMF on is HD 2
but it wont let me 😭

[hollow kettle]

It won’t let you use it in Helldivers? Is it only 9000 series that can use it in any game or something?

[tawny thicket]

it works on RX 6000 and up
its just bugged for me
i always tells me that im in an incompatible display mode

[hollow kettle]

You don’t have vsync enabled do you?

[tawny thicket]

no
i even have it forced off in the driver

[hollow kettle]

Hmm that’s weird

I like this AFMF though. Hopefully I can make use of it in all my games. My refresh rate is 180hz so it’d be nice to hit that consistently

[plucky quail]

Makes sense

Full screen it should be

[tawny thicket]

it does that even in fullscreen

*does that no matter what i do

[plucky quail]

FSR4 gonna get Backported to PS5 PRO but apparently not till next yea and thats prob also when it gonna be out for RDNA3 i guess.

[pure ibex]

Remember guys

Throw rocks at Tesla’s

They deserve it

[vestal tusk]

ong teslas goofy

[plucky quail]

Ey least you can blame the car

[polar mountain]

Using frame gen on comp games is crazy

[tawny thicket]

HD2 isn't competitive

[serene meteor]

Tesla is a POS car, Toyota, Lexus is peeing on that POS Tesla. We know this. F Tesla.

[pure ibex]

Throw bricks at teslas

[split citrus]

nah throw molotovs at teslas 🔥

[plucky quail]

Guys since 50 series you can run PhyX and need a older card to run it and some doing it. I wonder if you could do it with AMD and if somebody here tried it.

[pure ibex]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-market-share-in-japan-reaches-45-amd-just-isnt-used-to-selling-so-many-graphics-cards

[pure ibex]

You can do it with amd

It’s been known for over 10 years

https://a.co/d/cqgIQK5

[past escarp]

why does 3050 6g even exists?

[pure ibex]

Who cares

For physx it’s all you need

[past escarp]

still its a bad situation when you buy 2000$msrp(5k$ in my country btw) and you need to buy second gpu to play older games

[pure ibex]

Radeon users gotta do it regardless lol

I might pick one up

[serene meteor]

PhysX still works for RTX 5000 series but only on 64 bits not on 32 bits. For example Batman Arkham Knight PhysX works fine but Batman Arkham Asylum not.

[pure ibex]

Pick up a new 3050

As the side piece to your new gpu

[plucky quail]

LOL

[plucky quail]

Why should i buy that if i can get 980 for 50Bucks

[pure ibex]

980 can’t keep up with faster cards

Also

980 needs power plugs

3050 doesn’t

[hard juniper]

good argument

however the downside is that you then to tell people you use a 3050

[plucky quail]

Got enough

4x 8pin

[pure ibex]

Cleaner build

[plucky quail]

Nah don’t care if it’s clean or has rgb or look uniform color

[pure ibex]

Boring

[plucky quail]

Boring to invest that much time in that instead of playing on your 2k playing station

[pure ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/chudlogic-chud-logic-evil-gang-evil-gif-11587451429599961940

But nah jokes aside

The 980 is likely to slow to keep up with a 5090

[pure ibex]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126987753284?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0w_eaitesry&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=MV2YSEy-QPe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

It’s fucken pink bro

[spare coral]

Yeston always makes these cute ahh cards

[opaque moat]

wtf happened to this chat all of a sudden? thought i was in another discord for a sec lol.

[plucky quail]

Nah but mean like a 9070XT

[hollow kettle]

My 9070 is drawing up into 265-275 watts now

[pure ibex]

They must fully unlocked the power limit

[hollow kettle]

2.9ghz almost hitting 3ghz clock XD

[pure ibex]

I’m telling you, bro 500 W I’m hitting 4 GHz

[hollow kettle]

These cards are seriously impressive. I’m in love with this thing. I’m kinda scared to have it pulling this much power now using this daisy chain cable though.. 😅

[spare coral]

I thought it wasnt daisy chain
Its only daisy chain when the 2 6+2 cables are from the same cable

[hollow kettle]

Mine are from same cable. It is Y split 2x 6+2 pin on same cable

[spare coral]

Oh damn why tho

[hollow kettle]

My psu doesn’t have any more cable with 6+2 or I’m an idiot and can’t find them. The online specs listed for my exact psu say it has 4x 6+2 but idk where

[spare coral]

Almost all the psu should have at least 4x 6+2 unless its a cheap one that doesnt even have a certification lmao

[hollow kettle]

I can send you the model number of mine if you want. I showed handful of other people and they said it is a fine psu. High power 750w 80+ gold hp1-j750gd-f12s

[spare coral]

Yeah that sounds fine but it missing 1 of the Y 2x 6+2 cable is really weird

[hollow kettle]

But I open my case up and the cables that are zip tied inside only had bunch of sata connectors, 12 pin and some other random ones. Didn’t see any 6+2

[opaque moat]

runnin 1440p max or 4k?

[hollow kettle]

There is no way any cables are like still inside the metal box that houses the psu right ?

Like where the cables all run into and plug in psu

[hollow kettle]

Native 1440p

[spare coral]

Its hiding somewhere

[hollow kettle]

Others told me even with just this Y split cable it should be good even up to 300 watts

[opaque moat]

you play at 70fps?

[hollow kettle]

But I’m not exactly trying to push my luck either

[hollow kettle]

If that’s what I get with max settings at native 2k sure I guess. Why?

[spare coral]

Should be fine tbh but if you are scared just check again all the cables of your psu
Maybe its jambled in there somewhere close to the psu

[opaque moat]

meh. been runnin games above 120 for too long... cant imagine 70

[hollow kettle]

The cables are thick even for Y split I think I’ll be good as long as I don’t go crazy with OC

[spare coral]

You can even undervolt and will reduce your powerdraw for only a loss of 2 or 3% of performance on the worst case

[hollow kettle]

This game is really the only one I get that low of fps. Plus I can just use AFMF in most games now and it is not even noticeable latency. And zero artifacts tht I can tell compared to other FG I used before. Idk I am loving everything about AMD now. Even more than nvidia xD

[opaque moat]

i cant switch to amd, i do other things that they cant do as well just yet.

[spare coral]

I like AMD's control panel and i also like how most of them still use 6+2 cables

[hollow kettle]

Even Indiana jones max settings 1440p (no path tracing of course) 90-110 fps. The Ray tracing is decent enough

But cyberpunk for some reason is a lot harder to Ray trace

[spare coral]

Amd only needed how many generations to reach decent ray tracing? 3?

[hollow kettle]

With optiscaler set to fsr 4 Q and ultra ray tracing in cyberpunk I can hit around 60 fps. Pretty good for amd gpu I think

[opaque moat]

yeah they aint ready for RT yet

[hollow kettle]

Weird how it is so hard in that game but Indiana jones get significantly better frame rate

[spare coral]

There is a mod that gives you more performance on the raytracing mode without losing a lot of quality

[coarse linden]

No raytracing is same really

Different ray counts and whatnot shenanigans going in background

[spare coral]

Indiana's RT without PT is only GI iirc
Cyberpunk has shadows, reflections and other stuff when you enable RT apart from GI

[hollow kettle]

Yeah that is true. Plus cyberpunk is a lot bigger map than indy

More stuff going on

[coarse linden]

Dying light 2 RT looks decent but suffers from too small ray count

[hollow kettle]

I like metro exodus RT

[spare coral]

Imo it looks great its a fast paced game anyway

[coarse linden]

Makes ground look "alive" or what ever term folk have come up for it

[opaque moat]

division 2 is a raster game. thats one that should be used for testing. it runs so well.

[spare coral]

Its also really cheap to run and it looks amazing

[hollow kettle]

Why is it that a lot of games shadows look almost too defined and dark? Like I’m looking at shadows irl right now and it more resembles most games medium or even low shadow setting lol

Well, object shadows I mean

[spare coral]

Some games uses soft shadows to fix that but most games uses shadows with higher resolution cause higher = better for them tho most shadows looks already good at medium/high instead of ultra

[hollow kettle]

I am pretty upset that even max settings in stalker still (in some ways) looks so bad. Like foliage pop in when you zoom in exactly same, noise on weapon models when light or rain hits them, pixelated looking bits of shadows and small objects. It’s frustrating I notice more little small things now than I did before lol

[spare coral]

Its ue5 sucking
Lumen and Nanite are really rough

[hollow kettle]

I think I might load up Hogwarts legacy and test it out with RT it has

Compare it to performance in other titles

[spare coral]

I didnt use RT on it cause most people say it looks worse than without it for some reason

[hollow kettle]

I heard it was bugged or something for awhile but I think they supposedly had fixed it. Idk I never tried using it on my 4060

[coarse linden]

What i have seen its RT is quite bad

Too noisy

[hollow kettle]

I think the graphics look meh in general but I see videos Praising the game visuals

[tawny thicket]

Also adds lots of dumb reflections where there shouldn't be any

[hollow kettle]

So I found out my psu is non-modular so that would mean any cables it has would be coming out and zip tied together I presume?

Since it was prebuilt. Man I wish I would have just done all this myself so I don’t have to play guessing game

[spare coral]

Yeah

[hollow kettle]

That’s so strange their site has it listed 4x 6+2 pin connectors.

And I opened up my case and looked at side of psu itself and got the model number so I know it is correct one

[spare coral]

It should be there somewhere

[plucky quail]

Nah now thats out of realm

[hollow kettle]

Is there any other component that would use that type of connector? Like AIO or something maybe

[pure ibex]

Nah at 600 it might be possible

[spare coral]

Not really

[hollow kettle]

The only other connectors that are not sata & some weird 4 pin looking things are the 2 going into cpu, a 12 pin that is zip tied up, and then my Y split cable plugged into gpu. I followed every other cable in there just now and can’t find any 6+2 :/

Oh well I think it’ll be fine

If I knew more about CPUs I would try to OC mine now xD

[plucky quail]

Yea 600 could actually but 500W idk you could get close

[pure ibex]

we just need to wait for someone to crack the code

[plucky quail]

Hopefully Soon would be a insane OC

[pure ibex]

but im finally gonna bite the bullet and reinstall windows

my windows install has mega aids

lol

[pure ibex]

some small progress was made i saw

but it involved a lot of soldering

you had to replace like 30 resistors

[hollow kettle]

I was looking at the wrong psu online 😂 well it has same model number but with (C) at the end. I found my exact one (just newer version of same model) and yeah it only has 2x 6+2 connector. 😦

[spare coral]

Bruh

[hollow kettle]

It has exact same specs otherwise. Just different amount of connectors

[spare coral]

It has the 12 pin one instead

[split citrus]

only game with outright bad RT was ironically Control, the RT was too grainy with reflections that were supposed to be shiny

[tawny thicket]

user shit bark roasted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyLxjG41tJQ

[hard juniper]

alright new patch is out who's gonna benchmark it

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/hyLxjG41tJQ?feature=shared

[pure ibex]

We found the same video lmfao

[agile harbor]

patchy mc'patch face day

[opaque moat]

sitting here watching people expect performance gains when this is as good as it gets lol

[hard juniper]

a man can dream

maybe next month they drop a surprise patch announcing that they updated to ue5.5 or something

probably the only way i'll come back to the game at this rate

[opaque moat]

even the latest ue5 game black hawk down is 5.4. nothing is in 5.5 yet. maybe the upcoming silent hill F

maybe even state of decay 3

[hard juniper]

not sure if i can say the name but a game i'm playtesting has been updated to 5.5
runs fairly well

not great, it's still ue5, but overall better than stalker last i checked

[coral token]

Oh damn new update finally?

[plucky quail]

saw that too.

How is the update most important A-Life

And what is new deathscreen?

[spare coral]

They didnt change anything related to A life from what i understand in the patch notes
They even said in #📜┃gsc-answers that a life only got minor tweaks

[tawny thicket]

then there is ARK Smear Ascended

also getting UE 5.5 update (supposedly) in this month

31st or delayed though

[uneven portal]

The version of Unreal Engine is not the problem anyway

[tawny thicket]

i mean....
SatisFactory is only 5.3 and runs pretty well

its just about the amount of effort devs put into it IMO

[uneven portal]

in this case... I wish the game's performance was the biggest of its problems.

[tawny thicket]

in relation to Stalker ?

[uneven portal]

yea

[jovial sage]

Im not sure the game is running much better after the update

[tawny thicket]

do i do another 2 hour long benchmark session ?

[uneven portal]

It's easier to always use Zalisia. For me, it's an extra 8+ FPS

I've never hit 50 FPS on ultra in that area before.

[tawny thicket]

nah,
not enough
dont want a CPU limit 90% of the time
nor do i just wanna be like ran out of VRAM, test over

[jovial sage]

No point in benchmarking an early area

[tawny thicket]

i might replace zallishya with rostok TBH

[jovial sage]

The final area would be better since it seems to be the most intensive part of the game

[tawny thicket]

OR
i make a new benchmark pass

one that lasts more that 2 minutes per run

so that the lows are more usefull

[uneven portal]

For me, it has always been the first zone

Zalisia was one of the areas with the most FPS drops, even more than Rostok

[tawny thicket]

i might also remake my FSR VS TSR VS XeSS VS TAA

[agile harbor]

sounds like a poll is needed

[opaque moat]

oh ive seen some massive factories give much performance dips. the more going on will definitely hurt performance

[thick orbit]

Jesus what was in this patch, it's taking absolute ages to update and (the update process) made my otherwise very calm and cool CPU hit 80c

[tawny thicket]

A : you have to be a phsyco to build factories big enough for that
B : no matter what you do, it will run better than any other UE game

[tawny thicket]

(i've got like 127K+ structures and i can still hit 100fps before getting CPU limited)

and GPU wise its no competition
maayybeee palworld
but that game doesnt look as good

[tawny thicket]

(not even a high end CPU BTW)

(just an R5 5500)

[tawny thicket]

i wasnt asking though

[plucky quail]

There are also devs that go to ue5 even though it does not make sense and they have their own engine. The end is games like stalker. It’s also insane that halo is going UE5 even though they have their own engine that works. And my guess is that they not gonna fix UE5 for halo to work properly.

[tawny thicket]

they have their own engine that ~~ works~~ *doesnt work

[hollow kettle]

I just received an email back from ASRock saying one Y split cable with 2x 6+2 is perfectly fine for 9070. I told them it pulls up to 275 watts also so now I am not worried at all XD

[tawny thicket]

the reason big comapnies go to UE is just money, they wont fix it.

[spare coral]

🔥

[uneven portal]

your experienced developers are leaving = you don't want to invest in training new devs on a graphics engine you have or create another one, and unreal provides you with people with already experience

really it's all about (saving money) nobody seems to put enough interest in making games with another engine or simply improving unreal, because that's another possibility.

[plucky quail]

They have working engines but switching engine to cut cost while not working on UE5 will not gonna cut it. Either way they not gonna save money without the game being bad.

[plucky quail]

Yea but UE5 devs are working on the game not engine what is the real problem.

[opaque moat]

ue5 is a long term engine anyway...quite a few game devs admited that hardware fell behind. and needs to catch up

[uneven portal]

it is an impossible practice to maintain in the long run.

[tawny thicket]

i'd rather have a fun game that runs poorly over a game that runs like a dream but is boring AF
(i put gameplay before performance/engine)

[opaque moat]

like silent hill 2.

[uneven portal]

huh?

[plucky quail]

But what engine is falling behind?
Games are so advanced you pretty much don’t need new stuff in the engine. Like halo would need rt for what I play a shooter game.

[opaque moat]

no.... Hardware is falling behind. needs a couple more generations. the engine is fine if the hardware is there to run it

[uneven portal]

There are several graphics engines more capable than Unreal in every aspect, from optimization to visual quality. Literally, Epic Games has zero experience in making visually realistic games. In my opinion, what we have are studios that invest less because they want to make more, and an engine for lazy people.

[plucky quail]

Hardware ain’t falling behind games are just getting ridiculously bad optimized. I mean stalker is the biggest game to look at

[opaque moat]

you can toptimize a game if the engine is not optimized itself

[plucky quail]

And gamers don’t want to have the most insane PT experience look at KCD2

[uneven portal]

I think the biggest problem right now is exactly that false belief that the graphics of games like Stalker justify their performance, when in reality what happens is that they abused Nanite and Lumen so much that they practically have no control over their game.

[tawny thicket]

yeah, but at some point some part of the chain has to adapt

[hollow kettle]

I saw video of someone using unreal engine to make character models with weapons and stuff. It looked so much easier than I imagined

[plucky quail]

No you need the engine to work.
The engine has stutter problems which is a code problem where the engine is flawed. You need to fix it like project red are doing with the small back doors

[hollow kettle]

I want to go to school for something involving video game development

[opaque moat]

ok look...the engine is based on the use of Ai. and unfortunately thats the future so...dunno.... GPU's gopnna have to just work on getting better on that end.

and thats why raster performance is getting less and less important.

[uneven portal]

"And you think the rest of the graphics engines on the market don't use them??

[plucky quail]

But a big studio needs time with experienced engineers that work on it. I could not imagine small less experienced studios

[opaque moat]

not the way UE5 is implementing them.

[uneven portal]

brhu

I think you're overstating Unreal Engine simply because you don't know other graphics engines.

[plucky quail]

UE5 has nothing to do with “the future” it’s just corporate wanting money to save in short term.

[tawny thicket]

disagree (on the less experienced studios part)
CSS is a small studio
and yet SatisFactory (made by CSS) is the best optimized UE 5 game 🤷‍♂️

[uneven portal]

When Kingdom Come: Deliverance made its customized version of its graphics engine, they were an 80-person studio. The current studios simply don't know their limits

No one is saying not to use Unreal, but moving from Unreal 4 to 5 just sounds like a bad decision

[hollow kettle]

It’s crazy with same settings I used on 4060 I only used like 5GB - 7gb vram. But now with 9070 I’m using up to 14gb in same game (kcd2) it seem like stalker use more vram with this card also. I assumed it is just higher settings but even when I lowered I’m still using 1-3gb more vram compared to 4060. 🤔

[tawny thicket]

you were using less on the 4060
cuz it physically **Cant **use more

[uneven portal]

The game’s quality presets don’t change the graphics much; they mainly change the rendering distance. I suppose it must use more resources, but it also renders more (according to what I saw in a video of the game).

[hollow kettle]

Yeah but only game I ever Max out 4060 vram was cyberpunk with RT. Like I set same exact settings with 9070 I’m using 7-9gb vram whereas 4060 would use 5-7gb

[tawny thicket]

No one is saying not to use Unreal
the way you guys talk really makes it sound like you are saying that

[hollow kettle]

Well unless dlss vs fsr is that much of vram difference. I’m also actually playing native 1440p now instead of upscaled. That is likely the reason

[raw sleet]

was gonna ask if 1.3 still runs like ass; but considering the comments.. I suppose I don't need to (btw f_ck UE5)

[hollow kettle]

Wait was there a new update?

Oh yeah I am updating now

[uneven portal]

Nothing to do with it, the discussion was about the false idea that Unreal is the future, but at no point is it said (don't use Unreal), quite the opposite. If you're going to use it, at least make your own version adapted to your needs.

[hollow kettle]

46gb ?!?!

[uneven portal]

"It's simply lazy to say that Unreal is the engine of the future and the best graphics engine when half of the people don't even know the rest of the engines on the market

[tawny thicket]

but moving from Unreal 4 to 5 just sounds like a bad decision
what lots o' people forget IMO is that
UE 4 isnt much better than UE 5 in optimization
just look at ASE VS ASA
E might run a bit better at max than A on low
but A runs about the same for much better graphics
(and E still stutters might i add despite UE 4)

[raw sleet]

I miss John Carmack making idtech engines.. he had to go and move on and leave us with Sweeney

but I suppose iD never really licensed out of house for their engine much anyway

[tawny thicket]

def big contributor

[uneven portal]

days gone?

[tawny thicket]

this convo has nothing to do about the new update perf wise BTW

[uneven portal]

There are games made with Unreal Engine 4 that knew how to take advantage of the engine, and the idea that it's a bad move to jump from 4 to 5 is because it's a big change for development, don’t misinterpret.

[tawny thicket]

did that get ported to 5 with a similar budget/amount of time ?
nope....

[plucky quail]

7 was probably the max it would go and I can’t imagine 5gb with rt is something possible

[raw sleet]

not this time around? ah man.. was starting to form a reliable pattern in here:

update -> still runs like ass -> find likeminded complaints about UE5 on game discord

[uneven portal]

I blame GSC more for the performance than Unreal Engine 5. No one forced them to use Lumen and Nanite to this extent

[plucky quail]

We all are complaining about UE5

[tawny thicket]

please....
i wasnt saying to expect anything
from my POV the new update might even run worse

[uneven portal]

It’s not running badly for me with the new update, I actually found it more fluid. Maybe it's just me.

[raw sleet]

haha, just sh*tposting anyway I got no room to complain with my 3 gen old gpu lol

[tawny thicket]

i was just pointing out the fact that this didnt get started by stalker : )

[tawny thicket]

mines 2 gens old
i thought it was 3 WTH

[uneven portal]

I had to retire my 980, it handled Cyberpunk but couldn't go beyond that....

[raw sleet]

im amazed my 2080ti still works tbh.. i've put it through hell over the years but evga made a real trooper

[plucky quail]

They are using lumen which is mostly only for dynamic properties. Like buildings that you can blow up or something. Stalker has non of that. That’s why UE5 is the future makes no sense if it doesn’t meet your needs

[tawny thicket]

holdonwait is a grand master shitposter TBH

[plucky quail]

Really nice to know

[tawny thicket]

he gets in
stirs some stuff/drama up
then leaves

[uneven portal]

I wish all Xbox games were developed with id Tech 7

[tawny thicket]

-to watch the chaos he had just created

[uneven portal]

200 fps whit rtx Reflections

[tawny thicket]

suuuureee

[uneven portal]

The best engine on the market in terms of optimization/graphic ("And with RT reflections, I’m referring to the reflections on the surface, nothing related to lighting.")

[tawny thicket]

plz take of the***"X"***
its really irritating

thx : )

[uneven portal]

jasjdajsd

Well, I'm going to play Monster Hunter, another poorly optimized game

[tawny thicket]

wilds or worlds ?

[uneven portal]

wilds

[tawny thicket]

[plucky quail]

Idk. Problem is the pop in in Indiana. Idk why they did that but it has definitely performance improvements if it’s so bad made.
Least it’s working on doom.

Maybe it was time I can’t say for now what the reason is to say that engine is really good

[hollow kettle]

It would get to 7.8 but 7.9 would crash usually in cyberpunk. 5GB was only raster and 5GB in stalker was with optimized settings and medium textures

My game is almost done updating now so I will see how much I use on Epic preset native 1440p. I get 60-70 fps but I been using fsr FG now too. Looks smoother for some reason

[plucky quail]

Probably cuz with FSR you are getting more fps

[hollow kettle]

Fsr native get more fps than taa native?

[spare coral]

Dont think so

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/1PHuS8D
i try to add stalker 2 to adrenaline and it tell me this. It bc game pass game or what? No mans sky and indiana jones show up just fine. I dont get it

[spare coral]

Game pass problems 😭

[hollow kettle]

Dude I just got to location with bunch of rocks and artifact. Well there is handful of zombie guys. No problem to kill. Well one is bc he is inside a rock able to shoot me but I can’t shoot him!!!

I throw grenade but it did nothing. None of my bullet can hit him

And enemies have laser pin point accuracy dude it is so stupid

Maybe if I run 100m+ away he will despawn?

[plucky quail]

no meant fsr fg not the upscaler

[past escarp]

sounds like a legendary killer-rock

[rare temple]

I mean, it's an older version of UE, but Lies of P runs fantastic and looks great. It shows what can happen when they optimize the game properly. As for me, I had stopped playing S2 since February. They really need to just remove 16-series cards as playable. They are not. Any card less 8gb is going to struggle. I tried again today after the 1.3 patch and things are worse. So I've given up.

[hollow kettle]

Running 125m away then coming back fixed it for me

[prime mirage]

this game needs coop now

[sharp meadow]

also still on UE 5.1 "GSC"

[hard juniper]

i think there are more important things at the moment

[vestal tusk]

if you want coop just play the mods for cop or in arma

[hazy idol]

there is a co-op mod like the CoP one for SoC (I think on CoP’s updated engine), but I think you have to download it from their discord

[tidal sluice]

How is the performance for the 4060ti 16gb?

[hollow kettle]

The gpu will do fine in this game. Your cpu & ram is important also.

[tidal sluice]

a Ryzen 7 5700x and 32gb ddr4

im playing on high settings and getting around 80-90 fps

im at rostok

[jovial sage]

Using frame gen?

[tidal sluice]

dlss quality

[jovial sage]

Gotcha

[tidal sluice]

no frame gen

[jovial sage]

Darn. I think i get around 30 or 40 in rostock

[hollow kettle]

I get ~60 in rostok with occasional drops into 50s with Epic preset at native 1440p

60-70 basically everywhere else

[jovial sage]

I have a 7800 xt, 5800x, and 32 gigs of ram but for some reason im only getting around 30-40 fps in most areas. 1440p with fsr 3.1 quality no frame gen.

Using optimized settings guide from a yt vid. Sometimes i get 70fps tho but in certain areas it goes down real bad

[stoic glade]

hey guys, new pc player here but returning player from console. when i last played on console a few months ago, the state of the game was definitely not what i had hoped for and i have been story blocked since december, but i heard the new patch came out today, and was considering buying stalker 2 on my pc since its on sale. would you say its worth it to play on pc now? have you noticed an improvement overall? what are your thoughts? appreciate your honest opinion and thoughts in advance!

[tawny thicket]

You gotta be using some FG for that....
I doubt that the 5700X can get 90fps in rostok

[tidal sluice]

Yea I double checked it is on mb

It was better than before cuz I was getting mad stutters there

[tidal sluice]

do you guys use any mods?

[vestal tusk]

for what stalker game

[hazy idol]

I assume for S2 since it is the S2 category

I downloaded the UETools but that’s it. I may mod it later but until I finish all the endings I’m gonna play it in vanilla

[vestal tusk]

fair people dont often follow channels subjects

eng no spoiler chat for example

[hazy idol]

You know that’s fair lmao especially for S2 categories

[vestal tusk]

i may grab uetools for my run just incase

[hazy idol]

If they’ve actually fixed the main story bug for one of the endings you shouldn’t really need them tbh. That’s the only time that I’ve used them personally.

But probably good to have just in case for now.

[hard juniper]

Really depends on your specs, performance is rough

[tidal sluice]

yes for s2

[hazy idol]

I don’t personally run mods at the moment but I know some people have been recommending damage overhaul mods to make the enemies feel less like juggernauts

[hard juniper]

i had about 21 when i was playing

[split citrus]

havent played it yet

[hazy idol]

Will play it when I get home but haven’t experienced the new patch yet

[wintry rivet]

4080S / 7800X3D / 6000Mhz CL30 32gb of RAM / 1440p max graphics + DLSS on quality with frame gen off gets me like uhhhhh 80 fps on average in Pripyat

gonna load a save where I am near rookie village in Cordon to see how performance is there

[tawny thicket]

i sadly dont have 3000€ spare to buy a rig like that

[hazy idol]

I guess being the poll boy doesn’t pay the bills after all

[tawny thicket]

im crying

[wintry rivet]

lol I spent 2800$ USD for this build and then 500$ in taxes 💔

luckily I got a lot of things on sale so

[sharp meadow]

Having barely 60fps at 1440p native on a 4080s is terrible

[wintry rivet]

thats with DLSS lemme turn it off

70 fps. dang

[sharp meadow]

Terrible cpu optimization because of the engine

[wintry rivet]

but im still getting 83~ fps at the Cordon with DLSS

[sharp meadow]

How's the frame time graph

[wintry rivet]

think my game is bugged since even tsr gets me 80~ fps on average lol
barely any difference for the upscalers

[wintry rivet]

oh I use nvidia shadowplay's overlay to see my fps I dont think it has that haha

[sharp meadow]

Its not bugged its a cpu bottleneck. Lower resolution = more cpu bound

[tawny thicket]

not nescessarily the engine
eg.: in SatisFactory (another UE 5 game) i can get 100+ fps while CPU bound
while in stalker i get like 40 if im in a settlement

[sharp meadow]

.

[sharp meadow]

Unreal engine 5.1 moment still sorry ill be back later

[wintry rivet]

ohhh but frame gen gets me to 150 fps awesome

I do like frame gen in stalker 2 since if I can get 80 fps native then frame gen feels really smooth and good with little to no input delay + barely any artifacting

ofc its just a bandage to fix the wound and it is annoying since I need to use it to achieve smoothness

[dry quartz]

much better, I have cranked it up to epic and have 50 FPS (with some dips, yes) 2070S 5600x

[sharp meadow]

Yeah. I despise the latency from it but I only tested it in cyberpunk still didn't feel good so 🤷‍♂️

[wintry rivet]

frame gen in 2077 is SPECTACULAR for me
almost no input delay and I love the smoothness lol
ever since the 50 series released with the driver updates it feels like frame gen is just better overall for me

[plucky quail]

So the new Trailer means that they are now starting on making the content?

[hazy idol]

New trailer?

[plucky quail]

#📰┃announcement message

[hazy idol]

Oh, probably not tbh.

[late ferry]

pic_fl1ck has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[agile harbor]

Agreed, but it better with CP2077 being an Nvidia showcase title.

[thorny remnant]

sounded like it yea but the end made it seam like they just wanted to say stalker 2 is out in case you missed it (is that even possible at least if you live somewhere with good www access?)

[agile harbor]

FG is great (in the right circumstances). When fighting with a terribly performing title with huge CPU overhead though (S2), things are different.

[brave mirage]

Hello, did they fixed Barkeep quest bug where completed quest is not actually completed and you cant start/finish quest ?

[hollow kettle]

I can’t play this game without frame Gen. it feels so choppy without it. Much smoother with it. Been the case for dlss FG & fsr FG

[jovial sage]

I just play at 40fps and no fg cuz i cant stand the input lag

[plucky quail]

Motion blur is the FG before FG

[hollow kettle]

I always play motion blur enabled now. I used to hate it

[hollow kettle]

Yeah not worth if you don’t get 60 or maybe 50 at the least for base fps. Epic preset I get 60-70 usually. Rostok sometime drop into upper 50s

But with FG on I never dip below 100. Wish I could use AFMF 2

[jovial sage]

I should just use epic preset. I can put everything on low and the fps wont change at all

[hollow kettle]

Anyone in here play Indiana jones? I have supreme settings and the game looks awful blurry and low res..tried native TAA 1440p then switched to native AA xess and it helped a bit of blurriness. But characters and textures just look so low res. It is bad. No way supreme is this ugly

[hollow kettle]

Before I upgraded my pc, I used BenchmarKing optimized settings. They actually helped a lot. Game look good and run even better

[jovial sage]

Yeah thats what i use

My fps varies from 30-70. Bounces all over the place

Kinda just threw my hands in the air and gave up

[hollow kettle]

What cpu & gpu do you have

[jovial sage]

7800xt, 5800x, 32 gigs of ram

[hollow kettle]

That’s weird. You shouldn’t have any problem running high settings. Unless you’re at 4k resolution or something crazy

[jovial sage]

1440p

I think the entirity of the last couple missions im at like 24-30 fps lol

[hollow kettle]

With optimized settings you should be getting more than that. Something seems off

[plucky quail]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-shipped-200000-radeon-rx-9070-graphics-cards-already

[past escarp]

thats sad

[plucky quail]

AMD cooked 200k sold

[past escarp]

thats great news, but i wish these cards were closer to msrp prices

[plucky quail]

True one AIb said they will have the supply resolved in 6 weeks . It was the Anime AIb if you know

[hollow kettle]

Yeston?

[past escarp]

never heard of anime alb, what is this?

[past escarp]

yeet-stone

[hollow kettle]

They have anime girls all over their gpus lol

[past escarp]

i thought that was some kind of website

[hollow kettle]

They make & sell gpus afaik

I only just recently learned about them

[spare coral]

They have been on the market for quite some time lol i saw a gpu from them a couple of months ago being sold in a store here (the one that has the form of a cat)

[past escarp]

i dont think that we have their cards in our stores

nope, we dont have them

[serene meteor]

Normal Nvidia frame generation is ok, same as AMD frame generation, what is worse is the multi frame generation where you get a lot of lag at 3x or 4x FG.

[charred sand]

Can anyone tell me why frame gen is disabled? Can't enable it with DLSS or FSR

[hollow kettle]

Reflex 2 should fix that

[serene meteor]

not in total but at least helps a bit

what can't help is the fact at 3x or 4x you get a lot of imagine artifacts

[plucky quail]

Put Reflex2 on it and you gonna have artifact fest

[serene meteor]

for real ?

i mean i imagine RTX 5000 is a POS series to be skipped as much as possible same like it was with RTX 2000 series, but i did not imagine is that worse...

[hollow kettle]

I just came to say I enabled medium path tracing in Indiana jones and it runs on my 9070. 55-60 fps baby native 1440p. Only issue is gotta lower texture pool size a bit or it max out my 16gb vram lol

AMD cooked nvidia and threw them to the dogs

[agile harbor]

4090 ain't going no where. 6090 waiting room.

[hollow kettle]

At least when it come to xx70 Nvidia card amd smoked them lol we don’t talk about xx80-90

Actually I think I did see 9070xt getting 4080 performance in some games. Can’t recall for sure

[agile harbor]

texture pool size is the most critically important setting in IJ and it shouldn't have been left as a user adjustable option

[serene meteor]

same as my RTX 4080 Super, it stay safe in my PC till next GPU series.

[serene meteor]

you are saying ?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dtqwO3T0CGs

[agile harbor]

The Transformer model update completely changed the game for me. being able to use Balanced and if necessary Performance mode and have it look good extended the life of this card for me for sure

[hollow kettle]

I can’t believe I can run path Tracing with amd card bro. Never thought I would see the day

[hard juniper]

yeah dlss is insane at extending a card's lifespan with the transformer model

if it's struggling at native just bump it to dlss performance and boom your card lasts another 4 years with minimal performance loss

[tawny thicket]

unless you run out of VRAM : )

[hard juniper]

real

can't wait to upgrade to a 7060 with 6gb vram

[tawny thicket]

i dearly hope that they wont make a single 6GB card in the next decade

[hollow kettle]

5050 coming 👀

[tawny thicket]

its 8GB at least

[coarse linden]

Not really but it is a start

[serene meteor]

8GB in 2025 be like....
⚰️

[ebon lichen]

U mean 4 gb

8 gb is good if you play on a laptop but pc is a little low

[serene meteor]

even 8GB from what i seen in some games

[ebon lichen]

Oh ok

[coarse linden]

As much as folk make fun of 8GB vram, plebs will play with it just fine. Heh

[tawny thicket]

8GB isnt enough on anything

[ebon lichen]

Dude I got 4💀

[serene meteor]

i mean you can play even on iGPU fine if that's all you got 😄

[ebon lichen]

No I play on a 3050 laptop

[tawny thicket]

no.
the reason i make fun of 8GB
is that its literally unplayable
and i know from experiance

[ebon lichen]

The gpu is powerful enough but not the vram though

[coarse linden]

You say that and majority who have 8GB card will just continue playing their games not caring lol

[hard juniper]

oh brother

[ebon lichen]

4gb is pretty bad

[hard juniper]

8gb is the minimum nowadays
it works but ideally you want more

[ebon lichen]

Ok

[serene meteor]

Just works 😄

where did i heard that.... ?

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

[tawny thicket]

plz try to play ark smear ascended on an 8GB GPU

i dare you !

[coarse linden]

You mistake that i actually give a sht. Plebs will play their games on 8GB cards regardless what people say on internet

[tawny thicket]

does seeing 5fps still allow you to play ?

[coarse linden]

You go tell those people playing the game just fine that they are not fine

[tawny thicket]

[serene meteor]

leave people with GTX 1060 3GB alone

[coarse linden]

Heh actually have friend who plays ready or not with that card

[serene meteor]

Now imagine playing a slide show

[coarse linden]

Beyond me how. Hes got 3070 that he got from our other friend for free but too clueless to install it himself and ive been waiting for weeks for him to call for me to come install

Apparently it runs around 40fps

Which is to avid potato tier gamer just fine

[serene meteor]

For a classic build PC playing classic games is alright

[coarse linden]

And honestly 30fps is just fine

Spoiled gamers can scream and throw hissy fit over it that its not but potato gamers are content what they get

[jovial sage]

Yeah idk why its like this. I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling my drivers. So im gonna try uninstalling and reinstalling the game instead.

[coarse linden]

NPCs torture the poor 5800X too hard making fps commit sudoku

[serene meteor]

hey when you work hard and make a lot of money, you at least deserve to make yourself a high end PC... not all gamers with good PC's are just spoiled gamers, let's be real.

[coarse linden]

True but you are

[serene meteor]

I work hard, i break stone 😄

[coarse linden]

Your old PC was just fine

Well not for stalker

[tawny thicket]

i used to play games at 10-25fps at 720p W minimum settings + res scale set to 50% (sometimes)

[coarse linden]

UE5 and its cursedly heavy AI tree makes cpu cry

[tawny thicket]

"AI tree"
WUT

[coarse linden]

Battlefield 3 beta with Geforce G210 512mb DDR2 glorious 13fps

[serene meteor]

To be honest, with 5800X3D i was under 100 FPS in Stalker 2 in some areas like Rostok, or other village where it was NPCs, buildings and stuff, with 9800X3D i am all the time over 120 FPS no matter the area 😄

[tawny thicket]

i played Satisfactory at 14fps on my VEGA 3 + 8GB RAM

"720p" BTW

(720p W FSR P)

[tawny thicket]

XeSS didnt even boost my fps BTW

[coarse linden]

And how many people told you constantly to give up since its not enough?

[tawny thicket]

one or 2 (i dont really remember)
it was either one or both my brothers that told me that lots

[jovial sage]

Ah. Thats why both during and after ||SIIRCA|| the game tanks in fps for the rest of the runtime

[coarse linden]

So dont be like them. Be the poll boy you are destined to be!

[tawny thicket]

||SIRCAA|| was the lowest my fps ever went

[jovial sage]

For me it was during the ||Faust|| fight

[serene meteor]

Dude i seen that too, in that area even my old 5800X3D was craying there...

[tawny thicket]

yeah, thats where it got to total garbage

[jovial sage]

Mhm. Im home now so im gonna try doing a uninstall and reinstall

[coarse linden]

Fairly certain that wont make a difference

[serene meteor]

After Stalker 2 i sold the 5800X3D went to 9800X3D i said this is enough torture for my poor AM4 CPU 😄

[coarse linden]

But if you insist remember to to purge stalker folder at appdata too

[tawny thicket]

@crackerjackk has ruined my life

[coarse linden]

Nah.. You did it all by lonesome yourself

So embrace it and start the day with poll for what kind of coffee you should drink

[serene meteor]

give me coffee with more coffee in it

[coarse linden]

That inzoi will be absolute horror

Worst engine for life sim

Combined with mostly inexperienced devs i

[serene meteor]

So imagine that 5800X3D was kneed at 2560x1440 while 9800X3D runs like a champ at 3440x1440 epic settings with the same RTX 4080 Super, is like another PC in general more than 40% - 50% performance boost just from that CPU.

What is Intel doing ? 😄

[coarse linden]

I was suppose to get 9800X3D but couldnt be arsed to in the end

Maybe 11800X3D lol

[serene meteor]

total worth it

[tawny thicket]

no
its all his fault

[serene meteor]

i also want to know to see what will be the next name for AMD CPUs lol

[tawny thicket]

RYZEN AI on win-dowes

[coarse linden]

Own up to your own actions

[serene meteor]

Give me all the AI in the world Ryzen !!! 😄

I have a thing, AI call in my bios... is a thing for CPU to AI better lol

[coarse linden]

Ai this and Ai that and yet ingame AI still derps

[plucky quail]

1 CCD with 12cores and X3D

[serene meteor]

i wanted to get 9900X3D but i am glad i did not got that POS...

[coarse linden]

Still dont see much point going over 8 cores for gaming

[serene meteor]

2 CCDs for gaming... meh... not good. For productivity very much good

[plucky quail]

wait for the 10950X3D 24Cores 🙂 IDK how intel would recover

[coarse linden]

11950X3D

[serene meteor]

Intel is... how to say.... sleeping with the fishissss.... 😄

[coarse linden]

Intel got raging hard on for cinebench cores

[serene meteor]

Intel got new CEO, also a asiatic guy 😄

[coarse linden]

So much that they came up with efficiency cores for the efficiency cores

[plucky quail]

18A is done by the reports now will it help with there CPUs performance vs a 12Core CCD??

[serene meteor]

Looks like in US all tech CEO's are pretty much asian lol

[tawny thicket]

i just saw someone wanting to buy the 265K over the 5700/5800 X3D (he also has an AM 4 MOBO BTW)
cuz the guy had a bad experiance with his 7800 XT

[plucky quail]

? Because of the GPU?

[serene meteor]

well... oke lol

[tawny thicket]

ye

[serene meteor]

i do not buy a good CPU because i got a bad GPU lol

[tawny thicket]

the guy cant stop b*tching and moaning about it everyday

[plucky quail]

You with a 6600 being happy 🙂

[serene meteor]

let it cry we don't care... life gose on

[tawny thicket]

the guy is mad cuz native 1080p doesnt look good enough for him

[plucky quail]

What did he play Half life RTX?

[tawny thicket]

and cuz AMD didnt bring FSR 4 to RDNA 3 yet

[serene meteor]

I need to try that Half Life Remix i want to kill my PC 😄

[tawny thicket]

nah,he didnt

[tawny thicket]

which is valid, yes

[coarse linden]

Ran fine for me

[plucky quail]

What 1080P does not good enough and thats because of the GPU?

[serene meteor]

spoilers...

[plucky quail]

And why does he need FSR4 on 7800XT on 1080p

[tawny thicket]

cuz of the AA tech

[plucky quail]

Ah he wants DLAA

[coarse linden]

DLAA is quite nice tbh

[serene meteor]

AMD can't bring hardware AI to software AI 😄

[tawny thicket]

and cuz
according to him
DLSS T UP at 1080 = FSR AA 8K

[plucky quail]

does still not make sense why he does not want AMD on the CPU

[tawny thicket]

he is just so mad at AMD
that he cant even buy RYZEN LOL

[coarse linden]

Each with their own

[serene meteor]

I am so mad on pizza i can't buy KFC 😄

[coarse linden]

Why would you even want that slop

[plucky quail]

In stalker FSR4 does still AA does not look that good as DLAA look. The game is really not even upgradeable

[tawny thicket]

i just dont get his logic though
he bought the 7800 XT being aware that
-he doesnt get DLSS
-he cant really do any RT

and now complains about all of that

and More cuz he bought into the promise of a brighter future

[plucky quail]

Who told him of any brighter future?

[coarse linden]

I mean i would be upset too if i was fooled into buying 7800 XT

[serene meteor]

I had a strange problem with DLSS after installing the latest Nvidia driver, the image was distorted in Staker 2, but after a PC restart well went ok lol =)))

[plucky quail]

I hope the people dont buy 5000 series cuz of a "Brighter Future"

[tawny thicket]

whishfull thinking,himself and AMD fine wine apparantly

[coarse linden]

Neural rendering will fix everything!!!111

[sharp meadow]

Its not weird. The game isnt optimized properly

[plucky quail]

Nvidia does not have a good trackrecord of keeping there tech online

[sharp meadow]

No depth in the textures annoys me so much

[serene meteor]

we going to have RTX 8000 when first games will emplemet this tech 😄

[sharp meadow]

Seriously they talk about photorealism yet they are going backwards on texture fidelity

[serene meteor]

They upscale from 20 FPS =)))))))))))))))

[sharp meadow]

This is what happens when you run the market with 90% of the consumer and enterprise market

[coarse linden]

Would happen even if it was 50/50

[sharp meadow]

NVIDIA are basically a fortress now

[plucky quail]

I mean it does with getting more FPS over time with Driverupdate after update. The XTX aged like fine wine compered to 2 Years before.

[serene meteor]

When i seen first RTX 5000 series demos, i was... wait a second... CP 2077 at 20 - 30 fps upscale to 250 fps.... this looks fishy and it was 😄

[plucky quail]

Anyone remember the tech that came out for Wolfenstein from Nvidia that should given you more FPS and it did but the did throw it away after that.

[sharp meadow]

NVIDIA used to make good tech but now theyre just being cheapskates

or enable mass availability for tech

[serene meteor]

Nvidia today is what Intel was yesterday =))

[sharp meadow]

no theyre not

[coarse linden]

Charity doesnt keep lights on

[serene meteor]

or even worse...

[coarse linden]

Eh remember TressFX from amd? that was neat

[serene meteor]

anyways... they are a corporation toxic af nothing new there

[sharp meadow]

Data Center

Fourth-quarter revenue was a record $35.6 billion, up 16% from the previous quarter and up 93% from a year ago. **Full-year revenue rose 142% to a record $115.2 billion.**

Gaming and AI PC

Fourth-quarter Gaming revenue was $2.5 billion, down 22% from the previous quarter and down 11% from a year ago. Full-year revenue rose 9% to $11.4 billion.

-NVIDIA Fiscal 2025

This aint about what you call "charity"

Theyre cheaping out on basic quality control while making record revenue

[coarse linden]

Gaming sector funds the R&D sector 😉

[serene meteor]

Data Center is moslty a lot there, from servers, to medical equipment, to car idustry... and more.

[sharp meadow]

car industry is automotive and robotics

[serene meteor]

Nvidia is doing a shet tone of money from that now that is the idea

Gaming for them is last place now... so yeah.

[sharp meadow]

Yeah because why should they care with 90% marketshare in both segments

It will be a while before we see big architectural gains from NVIDIA

[serene meteor]

At least i like what i see from AMD on their new GPUs, they found the good road to fallow

[sharp meadow]

At least AMD made progress because NVIDIA didnt

[serene meteor]

They did the same with Intel, where AMD started to progress and now look at them

[sharp meadow]

AMD arent catching up

Its not the same at all

[serene meteor]

Never say never, i seen the same with Intel where people said the same

[plucky quail]

WDYM they did pretty much this gen on lower end.

[serene meteor]

Hardware market can change over night do not underestimate

[sharp meadow]

NVIDIA spend 2x on R&D compared to AMD
NVIDIA engineers and software developers are geniuses.
NVIDIA ecosystem is unmatched. How many games supported FSR4 on day one again?

[serene meteor]

If AMD go full chiples with their GPUs can beat Nvidia very easy

[sharp meadow]

well 7000 didnt do very well

[coarse linden]

In few weeks first wave of hardware survey data on steam should be released and we can see how well AMD have done

[serene meteor]

But... is hard to compete with both Intel and Nvidia, they do one after the other

[plucky quail]

NVIDIA engineers and software developers are geniuses. Like the driver blackouts?

[sharp meadow]

They can compete but they wont be overtaking nvidia basically

[serene meteor]

Don't say never, trust me

[plucky quail]

2 weeks

[sharp meadow]

AMD had worse

[plucky quail]

That said also the people about Intel

"Intel can be overtaken its impossible"

[sharp meadow]

Intel didnt have a software suite that people depend on like NVIDIA does

[serene meteor]

we seen how Intel the big dog got beat by the little AMD Chihuahua, so i lived to see it

[hollow kettle]

I feel like Nvidia probably won’t even release gaming cards in the future unless they allow a subdivision to branch off to focus on gaming card exclusively

[plucky quail]

Like Nvidias 20 series had bad memory that gave you the space war screen

[sharp meadow]

yeah but people dont care do they its still selling

[past escarp]

well depends on how things will go on. amd is taking their steps to make a good price/performance products and is not far away from nVidia in technologies, at the same time nVidia looks like they couldnt care less about gaming cards

[plucky quail]

Like DLSS? At some point we are compering pixel by pixel.

[sharp meadow]

They are far away from NVIDIA in technologies

[serene meteor]

Nvidia had a tone of problems, so far AMD focus on CPUs, the moment they going to start focus on GPUs more, Nvidia will have a problem, becasue they now care more about others than focus on what AMD is doing

[hollow kettle]

I just watch good video talking about all this. Nvidia is now treating gaming cards like leftovers. If they have time for it they will release some. But their primary focus is on their AI cards for big companies.

[past escarp]

the only thing that is bad with amd cards - they dont have technology like CUDA

[serene meteor]

but they have CUDA like tech

[plucky quail]

Like the new tech: Missing ROPs or missing stock?

[past escarp]

basically they get more money from cards like tesla, not from GeForce

[hollow kettle]

They used all their time and money up to make AI cards for big companies. They don’t care about gaming cards as much anymore bc it doesn’t make them big money like the companies investing in them does

[past escarp]

they do, but still are considerably worse in some programms

[hollow kettle]

Or investing in their product. Whatever

[serene meteor]

at least they beat Nvidia on Linux 😄

[sharp meadow]

DLSS, GameWorks, PhysX, CUDA, RTX denoisers, frame generation

Dont forget that the game industry is in NVIDIA's favour. eg Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth Wukong

[plucky quail]

Good that there is Zaluda

[hollow kettle]

Nvidia compare 50 series stock to 40 saying they had double the stock sent out this time..but if you look closer they compare 5070, 5070ti, 5080 & 5090 to only 40 series that released by this time in the year which was what? 4090 & 4080? lol no wonder

[serene meteor]

You know consols runs 100% AMD no ? And most of the games are first made for consoles and ported to PC after... just saying 🙂

[hollow kettle]

They did away with physX in 50 series

[past escarp]

only 4090*

[sharp meadow]

No they didnt they did away with 32bit physx

[past escarp]

basically they did with every game that is older then 10 yrs or so

[serene meteor]

They ruin my Borderlans 2 physX oh wait i still use RTX 4080 Super, i am safe...

[coarse linden]

And that in turn was from killing 32bit CUDA as i recall?

[hollow kettle]

Nvidia is working backwards imo. They will not be gaming company anymore

[sharp meadow]

90% of the market have NVIDIA GPUs and 80% of steam users have NVIDIA GPUs. Theyre not compromising in favour of AMD

[serene meteor]

Hey we open a AMD Radeon vs Nvidia little fight here ?

[coarse linden]

PhysX was broken in Borderlands 2 since RTX 20 series anyway, Caused "out of vram" crashes and only fix was to turn it off completely lol

[hollow kettle]

Anyone defending Nvidia is delusional. Their gaming cards are good sure but as a company they are scum. But the others aren’t much better

[serene meteor]

That did not stop me playing it

[coarse linden]

Masochist

[serene meteor]

i know 😄

[serene meteor]

it will always be that brand fanboism 😄

[hollow kettle]

I figured out what was wrong with Indiana jones. For some reason even when I set native AA in settings it was still rendering 1080p upscaled to 1440p. But now I have it render 1440p it looks a lot better

[past escarp]

i guess its more that people are upset that nvidia is basically making bad product i regards to its price/performance, while amd is still trying to make a somewhat good product. so nVidia just stopped to care abt GeForce series i guess

[hollow kettle]

I switch from Nvidia to amd and I couldn’t be happier. Glad fellas in here talked me into it xD but I also never have owned high end nvidia card either. Well I got 1070 on launch day in 2016. That is best I ever had from them.

[serene meteor]

i get it, i was a victim with RTX 2000 once, now is the same... eh well they will learn

[sharp meadow]

I didnt go with AMD because of the power draw and inferior software package

[past escarp]

guess the bigger problem is that nvidia is safe for now because of "fanboys" that still think that amd has awful drivers. but i guess they can be intel 2.0 if they dont change their policies

[serene meteor]

This story again ? how about RTX 4090 or 5090 power draw ?

[hollow kettle]

Don’t tell me you paid for 50 series card

[coarse linden]

I find it funny how people are upset that they didnt get to give money to nvidia because lackluster gains versus 40 series

[sharp meadow]

How about 4080s vs 7900xtx power draw

[serene meteor]

not even close....

[hollow kettle]

My 9070 destroys 5070 that’s all I care about lol

[sharp meadow]

9070/xt is goated

[serene meteor]

indeed

[coarse linden]

Why you care?

[plucky quail]

I find it funny how people say yea but power and there is only a 20W diff and paying in one year 5$ more. Its def worth more to pay 200$ more

[serene meteor]

AMD did a good move there with 9070XT that card hits right where it must

[hollow kettle]

It not a smart way to spend money. Unless you’re rich

[coarse linden]

Their money

[sharp meadow]

No its not https://youtu.be/zWfY_pmDHpk

[plucky quail]

Talking about 9070 vs 5070

[sharp meadow]

ah my bad

[hollow kettle]

5090 is only thing that seems worth it to me. But not for $3000+

[past escarp]

lets just hope that 9060 would be a good card

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFiG7CwpHk&t=57s

and i would go after credible sorces

[past escarp]

not when it can burn your house just because it feels like it

[serene meteor]

So what card to buy today ? 9070XT price/performance - looking at today Nvidia prices, doubles the prices... holly cow

[hollow kettle]

Maybe 5070ti isn’t so bad either. But still would be better to buy 9070xt imo

[past escarp]

its not a bad cards, its a bad price

[hollow kettle]

Yeah forgot about that XD

[plucky quail]

Always about price

[hollow kettle]

Well, the performance increase from Gen to Gen could be better too

[sharp meadow]

Not for
power connector issues
power draw
40dB fans
Bigger die no architectural gains

[coarse linden]

If it was worth it to you, you would have bought it

[serene meteor]

But you seen how good can 9070XT be undervolted and OC ?

[past escarp]

i think that the only card that is bad now(aka not price issue) is 5090. this card is just a overpiced hot fire hazard

[sharp meadow]

Yeah thats a good point I need to stop trusting testing games

[hollow kettle]

How would you propose to buy any 50 series gpu

They are all out of stock and have been since release

[sharp meadow]

yeah the only one I could propose is the 5070 Ti

[past escarp]

i guess this card can be good for me, but it is simply impossibly expensive

[hollow kettle]

And I don’t have the Luxury of micro center. Closest it 6 hours away

[past escarp]

me neither, closest one is like on other side of the world

[plucky quail]

He is there like zWORMz Gaming not controlled testing but giving you a feeling how the GPU is

[serene meteor]

look here how easy it is to undervolt and OC the 9070XT to hit RTX 5080 performance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naBqsSfGX3A

crazy... but is for real

[sharp meadow]

Yeah. Im guessing hardware unboxed gets more accurate power measurements but am not sure about their testing methodology

[hollow kettle]

I like zworm just for being genuine in his videos. Doesn’t try to do too much. Just shows how games run in his system XD

[coarse linden]

I mean i bought 5070 Ti at MSRP and quite content with it. Especially when difference between it and XT was under 100€

[hollow kettle]

Well I’m glad you were able to find one and are happy with it. Just sucks that nvidia gpu aren’t even an option for a lot of gamers

[coarse linden]

Such is life

[sharp meadow]

steam hardware survey says otherwise

3060s, 4060s

[hollow kettle]

Talking about purchasing new and now trying to find 40 series also. At least my area

[plucky quail]

If you want the best go GN

[sharp meadow]

dw I know about the techtubers

[plucky quail]

There are also people that buy more the 3050 than the 6600

[sharp meadow]

GN, der8auer e.t.c

[past escarp]

just that people still think that amd is worse, it will change with time

[wooden rapids]

[sharp meadow]

no its because of prebuilts

[plucky quail]

And survey just shows you how stupid some are on buying decision

[past escarp]

this is also true, but this doesn`t exclude that people still think that amd is inferior

[wooden rapids]

well, most consumers are absolutely oblivious

[serene meteor]

you know so many buy like sheep

[coarse linden]

Oh yeah the classic Acer Predator 1337 G4miNG for only 3699€ with 5600 + 3050

[plucky quail]

big 3 for me are HUB, GN and Bauer.

[wooden rapids]

It is objectively inferior, if you want me beat a dead horse, I’ll do it

[past escarp]

i think that it is best to think that customer is dumb as hell

[wooden rapids]

They can be easily influenced

[past escarp]

not in price/performance

[sharp meadow]

techpowerup are also a very good tool

[wooden rapids]

Sure, it’s always about money

[serene meteor]

is all about money, is all about la la la la ... that song 😄

[coarse linden]

Beat it until its alive again

[plucky quail]

Nah the 5070TI is some % higher than other cuz they got the OC version and didnt lower it so it meats the spec

[past escarp]

yes they can, still there are more people that know nothing abt pc and are buying prebuilts

[coarse linden]

Does OC without much effort tbh

[wooden rapids]

God forbid how uninformed the average consumer often is and how easily they can be swayed by ads or social media influencers... Of course, companies should never intentionally mislead consumers, but imagine the progress we could achieve if people consistently took the time to do proper research before making decisions.
If consumers demanded better practices and products by making informed choices, the entire system could be revolutionized.

Especially on expensive items like laptop and consumer electronics

[plucky quail]

Prebuilds aint bad if you have no idea how to build a PC and have no time for it. But i would buy prebuilds that make the selling parts of my PC easier

[sharp meadow]

Yeah and the relative performance graph wont be accurate either but me being gullible I start trusting it a bit much

[wooden rapids]

broooo, it’s a significant expense! Be informed!

[coarse linden]

Prebuilds are a bloody scam

[past escarp]

and this is unfortunately unrealistical, because of how lazy people are

[plucky quail]

Some are here in germany we have good prices for Prebulds

[sharp meadow]

gotta pay for the labour of setting up the PC

[wooden rapids]

I can build a pc in 30 minutes

[coarse linden]

Eh 50€ for local pc shop to build it and test it. Lot less then 400€ extra for the brand

[plucky quail]

Like for 2K PC you need to pay 100€ extra and you dont need to spend time making your own PC

[past escarp]

that is still more problematic for average consumer

[serene meteor]

where is the fun ?

[sharp meadow]

as a first time builder I built mine in like 3 hours I think lmao

[plucky quail]

We also have prebuilds that cost 2K but with a upsell of 500 or 1K

But they are just dog ass

[wooden rapids]

It took me 2 hours as a first time builder, but that’s because I was reading the manual too

[serene meteor]

i can build my PC with the power of the mind 😄

[wooden rapids]

Whatever origin pc is doing

PC building speedrun

[plucky quail]

I can just hear the Cable mess:)

[sharp meadow]

Mainly just handling it with care and getting the connections right

eg EPS connector

[plucky quail]

Spending time with family 🙂

[serene meteor]

took me 5 - 6 hrs to build my last PC, most of the time went in cable managment :))))

[wooden rapids]

I have a dual chamber case

[uneven portal]

6 WHAT

[plucky quail]

Yup thats the biggest time spend. God i hate that part but it least at the end looks and is good

[wooden rapids]

Good old shove in there

[sharp meadow]

it wouldnt fit on my desk if I had one

[plucky quail]

i knew it

[uneven portal]

My boss barely gives me 2 hours at best to set up a PC 😔

[serene meteor]

your boss must be punish hard :)))

[plucky quail]

We in germany some prebuild company wanted to sell to a YTer a 7K PC for 13K!! Insane thing luckly there was a Tech yter that helped him making his PC that was really good.

[uneven portal]

I usually feel bad because I leave cable management aside when I have so little time, but oh well, that's my boss's problem if the customers complain.

[plucky quail]

There is a way to make your PC cable less. Just cut the cable 🙂

[coarse linden]

As long as it doesnt block airflow its fiiine

Or if you are one of THOSE kind of savages

[serene meteor]

well look at the time flys and i need to sleep...

[wooden rapids]

How the hell can it have significant impact on airflow

[uneven portal]

the back panel of the PC is held in place by pressure.

[wooden rapids]

[coarse linden]

You havent seen those absolute heresy builds

[plucky quail]

some have. like there are cases if you dont manage it it blocks the fans and you will loose some cooling

[uneven portal]

If I do a good job, it takes me a maximum of 4 hours. With just 2, I barely have time for many things. Luckily, the company I work for hates liquid cooling, so that saves me some time.

[wooden rapids]

liquid cooling? Custom loop?

[uneven portal]

all in one

[wooden rapids]

because from my experience, installing a custom loop is absolutely abysmal, acoustic benefits is negligible and the extra pricing isn’t worth it 💀 (CPU block)

[uneven portal]

ejem noctua

[wooden rapids]

Phanteks T30

[coarse linden]

Temps are nice tho

[wooden rapids]

Well at certain points, I reckon it doesn’t matter much, just for passionate people seeing their build as art. Sure my 9800X3D idle goes from 40 down to 30, but what good does it do me

[uneven portal]

A custom liquid cooling system simply doesn't make sense in most cases—it's a waste of time and money, plus it requires maintenance. If noise is a concern, just get a Noctua; they offer warranties of up to 10 years. As for temperatures, same as before—unless you're using a 14th-gen i9 or a high-end AMD processor, it's not necessary.

[plucky quail]

Imagine someone wants a "real Custom PC" Custom cooling and delited a CPU and also the GPU should be watercooled. + all the stuff should have RGB with all having its own cable so you have 20 ARGBs hanging waiting to get connected

[coarse linden]

Dunno getting GPU down to 50ish when gaming from 80 seems decent

[uneven portal]

I have a 13th-gen i7, and it doesn’t go over 70°C. The extra money spent on liquid cooling doesn’t extend my CPU’s lifespan enough to justify the cost and hassle. You need to understand when it’s necessary and when it’s not.

[coarse linden]

Now we just need more powerful CPUs so we can boil the water and run our own generator for power

Imagine having turbine next to pc lol

[wooden rapids]

I’m sure some startup is already doing that

[coarse linden]

Yeah some vaporware startup

[plucky quail]

We need a company that brings Safer power to the Nvidia cards. I bet that nvidia would buy it in sec if its working

[wooden rapids]

I like SFF build now

[uneven portal]

we need evga nvidia cards.... pls

[wooden rapids]

Ncase M2

I need to make up an excuse to justify buying it

[plucky quail]

Nvidia EVGA ❌ AMD EVGA ✅

[wooden rapids]

They don’t have enough scale

[plucky quail]

With UDNA and some 11900XTX

[wooden rapids]

Allegedly, AMD has sold more than 200 000 9070 Class GPU

[plucky quail]

200K

[wooden rapids]

In the same headline, AMD’s market share in Japan is 45%

Get a fact checker down here

[hollow kettle]

My gpu is definitely leaning just a bit on the far right corner. Will this cause any damage?

It is sagging in the corner furthest away from PCIe slot. Not much though

[coarse linden]

Just get support for it

[plucky quail]

some point yes

[hollow kettle]

Alright I’ll order a thing for it then

[plucky quail]

5$ for support

[coarse linden]

Or macgyver something

[hollow kettle]

I was surprised that mine didn’t come with one. I saw some of the others do

Or maybe that was only XT models

[coarse linden]

Entry models dont have extra swag

[spare coral]

Use a toy or a figure

[wooden rapids]

get a vertical GPU mount

[hollow kettle]

I don’t have any toys XD my pc is my toy!

[wooden rapids]

[hollow kettle]

I wonder if vape would hold it up…🤣

[coarse linden]

I personally use solder roll

[spare coral]

Prolly not lmaoo

[hollow kettle]

Pill bottle might until I get a bar or bracket thing 🤣🤣

[coarse linden]

Old leaded solder so cant really use it nowdays for anything lol

[spare coral]

I have some old asf toys somewhere in the house but i dont need them yet

[plucky quail]

A banana

[coarse linden]

SMH just get 3D printer already

[hollow kettle]

I would if I could afford one. I have wanted one of those for years

[spare coral]

A dude i know uses his mario figure to hold his 3090

[coarse linden]

Pretty sure you can get one for 150

Brand spanking new old model

[hollow kettle]

I think this one that can be adjusted up to 4.72 inches in height Would work. And it is only $6

[past escarp]

use lego

[tawny thicket]

Get wolf'd

[pure ibex]

https://wccftech.com/g-skill-debuts-high-capacity-cl26-ddr5-6000-mt-s-memory-kit-for-amd-am5-platform/amp/

[serene meteor]

32GB DDR5 at 6000 MHz with CL30 is all you need more or less is pointless really for X3Ds

[coarse linden]

I mean technically ANY ddr5 kit is all you need

Lower latency kit always better

[serene meteor]

yeah... but do not believe is a big difference

[flat brook]

Lower latency can make a big difference, for Ryzen chips though higher clock speeds is not the way to attain it, actually makes it slower beyond 6-6200M/T

Nice to see 8.6NS kits however, hoping this trend keeps up

[sharp meadow]

Yeah

[pure ibex]

32 gigs is meh

48 gigs is peak now

I’d never buy 32 gigs in this day and age

[sharp meadow]

32gb is the new 16gb

[plucky quail]

Bruh tell me one normal game that takes even 24gb

[agile harbor]

32GB in late 2022 when I bought was $260 US for 6000CL30. Today its like.. $90 US.

Today, I'd do 48GB or 64GB.