pc-specs

[pure ibex]

HDMI display went all pixel vomit and then crash

With the second ccd disabled

Performance seems about the same

[plucky quail]

I hope you cpu has no problems with data missing and getting lost

But the hdmi I can’t explain except driver or bricked GPU

[pure ibex]

im getting giant stutters then full black screen crashes

idk whats up lol

Alright stalker 2 seems fine

Weird but anyways

I got 80 fps in yaniv

This is kinda insane

[polar mountain]

The merc or phantom gaming

[icy ledge]

Stalker 2 crashes whenever I "press any button to continue". This has been happening for over a week now. I have updated my drivers and computer. Also stalker 2 doesn't do the shaders thingy at the start... what do I do... at this point i think my computer has something.... i did all the steps in the website... can someone maybe help me try to find a solution? (other games run normally with no issues)

i loaded a manual save and it worked. issue fixed

[hollow kettle]

I had this happen once and I just verify & repair files and worked perfect ever since

[polar mountain]

Yo whats the oc/uv method on 9070xt? Lower voltage offset for a bit and raise freq?

[polar mountain]

@dry quartz romania

Gonna uninstall old drivers and mount it

[pure ibex]

I was running like -130mv but then my pc started freaking out so idk

This psu may be cooked

[pure ibex]

maybe what my pc needs is a 3050 as a support card

[polar mountain]

mine boosts to 3050-3100 in pripyat but needs ptm to break in

[pure ibex]

I honestly just think my cpu is still too slow

[polar mountain]

bruh we have the same cpus

[pure ibex]

Yah but

My gpu isn’t reaching full use

CPU is too slow

[polar mountain]

mine is

[pure ibex]

Mine isn’t

Like I’m only sipping 150 watts in Pripyat some how

oh my pc wasn't loading the v cache cores

that might help

[dry quartz]

the fact that you are Romanian made me brainstorm like in Jimmy Newtron, I was trying to rememmber a Romanian song from 16 years ago and I did. Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwnhICmxzcw

[pure ibex]

i need to just reinstall windows i think ive totally fucked it up some how

[dry quartz]

I do it periodically like every 6 months, feels fresh

[polar mountain]

never heard it before

[dry quartz]

cuz it is french, but was filmed in Romania

[polar mountain]

im new gen 😄

[dry quartz]

damn kids fortnite and stuff

[polar mountain]

yeah im 18

[dry quartz]

shit, I remember 9/11 pretty vividly and you were not even in plans

[pure ibex]

now v cache should be working again

lets try this again

@polar mountain try hogwarts legacy if you got it

I saw reviews reporting like 170 fps I was getting like 40

[polar mountain]

yeah i got it what preset?

[pure ibex]

just 1440p

cus i couldn't get more than 40 fps

[polar mountain]

ok

i like 9070xt, pretty cool, getting 300+ all the time in black ops 6

dying light 2 120-160fps raster and 60-80fps with rt native res

[polar mountain]

60 with full rt and 90-110 raster

[pure ibex]

HMMM

[tawny thicket]

the power of AMD drivers

[tawny thicket]

uleashed

or
IDK
that is weird AF

[uneven portal]

nice

I tested it at work a few minutes ago, it has the same FPS as the 5070 Ti in Stalker 2, AMD has cooked it.

I saw bigger differences in Cyberpunk with RTX, but interestingly, it stays pretty close. They're no longer that far behind NVIDIA.

[tawny thicket]

"at work" ?

thats also wird cuz NVIDIA's slides said the 9070 XT would be slower than the 5070 TIE in Stalker

[polar mountain]

thats what i had before for testing too 5070ti, ugpraded from 7900xt just for the upscaler

[polar mountain]

amd slides

[flat brook]

You checked out your core scheduling in Lasso?

[pure ibex]

what that

[flat brook]

Process lasso

[polar mountain]

7950x3d without using lasso 💔

[pure ibex]

im gonna say slurs

no one told me about this ever

[flat brook]

Hell I use lasso with my 9800, some applications should not have access to all of my cores

[polar mountain]

with lasso you can put certain processes on which cores you want, for ex games on core0/1/2/3/4/5/6/7 (3d cache cores on 7950x3d)

[pure ibex]

BRUH

then i can watch youtube

with out taking my fps

FUCKEN AMAZING

[flat brook]

You can also exclude cores from being used by certain processes, IE disallow discord to use cores 0 through 7

[pure ibex]

you guys

are saving my ass right now

[flat brook]

It’s how I managed my 13700K while editing, Opera discord etc

[pure ibex]

if it was up to me

youd all get a 500 dollar bonus right now

[polar mountain]

about to test horizon foridden west with fsr4

[flat brook]

Lasso does have the winrar type pop up after 30 days but that’s a worthwhile sacrifice tbh

[coarse linden]

Eh didnt do anything for me really

[flat brook]

I just start up my rig, grab a drink, once I’m ready and logged in I can just dismiss it right away

[coarse linden]

But im a 8 core pleb that havent been dealing cpu limited crap

[flat brook]

Depends on how you load your chip, in CPU intensive scenarios it can absolutely make a difference if you limit other CPU intensive programs to less cores for example.

I was able to save nearly 20% CPU usage by limiting discord to my E-cores while playing SPT Tarkov, gaining between 10-15fps on Streets

[vestal tusk]

is this for only amd or can intel use it aswell ?

[flat brook]

Works for any chip

[vestal tusk]

based thank you never heard of lasso before tbh

[coarse linden]

AMD doesnt really have E cores lol

[flat brook]

Gimme a sec to pull up a section of the guide I made for tarkov

[vestal tusk]

im still catching up on pc knowledge tbh

[flat brook]

Eh, you could consider the non-3d V-cache cores on the 7950x3d E-cores, despite them not running at a lower clock speed

[coarse linden]

Technically not wrong lol

[vestal tusk]

i want to go amd

[flat brook]

You mind pasting a screenshot in here if I DM it?

[vestal tusk]

sure i dont mind

[uneven portal]

pc componentes

[uneven portal]

Spanish company for PC component assembly and sales, I only assemble computers but occasionally we experiment whit the gpus

I logged into my Steam account and we tried Stalker 2, and honestly, the performance is similar, just about 4 more FPS with the 5070Ti.

But honestly, nothing impressive, and the frame generator, for now, without the implementation of Reflex 2, is still terrible.

[tawny thicket]

you mean
Anti lag 2 ?

[uneven portal]

jajajaja yea

The curious thing is that Reflex 2 with Warp technology won’t work in all games.

I’ve always wondered how it would work in a racing game, where it would need to interpret the input through the background.

[flat brook]

It’d be terrible, like driving on ice while drunk. Tried FG on Assetto Corsa once, couldn’t even keep it lined up on a straight track, your brain subconsciously starts over-correcting

And that’s with an actual wheel and pedals, where you have far greater precision than with a controller or keyboard

[pure ibex]

I need to do a fresh windows install

I just keep freezing and crashing

[tawny thicket]

you too ?

[flat brook]

Windows moment, I had to do 2 reinstalls right after my first fresh install when I switched to my 9800X3D

[tawny thicket]

my problem is that i have win-dowes 11 on the sh"tiest SSD ever

[flat brook]

Shit just kept breaking after the first update

[plucky quail]

Time to switch to Linux

[tawny thicket]

its essentially a hard drive

and i f-ing hate it
anyway
rant over

[pure ibex]

So much stuff in windows is broken anyways so

might as well

I just need to go to the store and buy a 3tb hdd

Which will be fun cus I can go to micro center again

[tawny thicket]

my win-dowes install is also probably preventing me from using AFMF

[pure ibex]

Just need to put some clothes on and go

Sad

It’s 2 degrees

How disappointing

[flat brook]

17c and sunny here Time to grab the R1

[plucky quail]

Ngl I am going to switch to Linux some games work even better.

[pure ibex]

It was 15 a few days ago

[polar mountain]

R1 👀

[flat brook]

[polar mountain]

hell yeah

what year is it?

[flat brook]

2009, First gen crossplane

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/FLZ314q

Black one on the left

[polar mountain]

menace, trying to get A2 license next year and maybe look towards a cb650r or mt07

[flat brook]

Both are very fun bikes, especially the 07 with the torque from the CP2 engine

[polar mountain]

yeah id probably like mt07 more since it has more torque when limited

[flat brook]

Dorsoduro 750 is also one worth looking at, was my A2 pick many years ago, over the 07. Great suspension, brakes, bit heavier but also slightly more torque

[pure ibex]

okay gamers

i have returned

with a 5tb hdd instead of a 3tb

they had a 5tb on sale for the same price

massive W

[vestal tusk]

BASED

[pure ibex]

oh

i see

this hard drive may be a bit uh slow.....

[pure ibex]

ok new plan

just gonna compile the c drive into a zip file

then put that on the hard drive

should be a lot faster

[polar mountain]

Im trying to oc the card so far ive done -100mv 2750 fast timings and +10% PL

[plucky quail]

Whats the max mv you can go?

[polar mountain]

Idk didnt try but for undervolting i jumped from -100mv to -150mv and got signal loss

[plucky quail]

@pure ibex Got -130mv stable

[polar mountain]

Ill try later

[wooden rapids]

wake me up when hdd gets cheap again, 6 USD a TB

[late ferry]

fbl7546 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[polar mountain]

@pure ibex what are your current settings?

[pure ibex]

UH

like -100mv

-130 kept black screening

[polar mountain]

same with 10PL and 2750 fast timings

[hollow kettle]

Man I am so happy I got the ASRock steel legend 9070 now. Tech power up video I just watched has their results showing it is the best performing 9070 model xD
Out of the 5 or so they tested anyway

[serene meteor]

Is there anyway that the game will get a bigger optimization update?

[hard juniper]

maybe one day they'll update to a better ue5 version

[pure ibex]

i need to upgrade my sata drive raid from 3 to 4 1.6tb drives

[spare coral]

https://youtu.be/BtQ8jF3I0Zw?si=QrNUX2cV0gcihF8c
@pure ibex

[lusty scarab]

Hey, I'm planning on building a pc this year and I was wondering with which GPU I can play Stalker 2 with the highest fps. Would it be the 7900XTX or the 9070XT? The 9070Xt supports FSR4, but the 7900XTX has more raw power.

[hard juniper]

depends a lot on what cpu you have

[lusty scarab]

I want to pair it with the 7800X3D

[hard juniper]

what resolution

[lusty scarab]

1440p

[hard juniper]

tbh they're so close you might as well get whichever one is cheaper

hub has good comparisons

[lusty scarab]

hub?

[hard juniper]

hardware unboxed

actually nvm the 7900xtx comes out on top a lot of the time, though if you can't get it for a reasonable price it's worth considering the 9070xt

[lusty scarab]

I can get both around the same price

[hard juniper]

1440p with a 9800x3d you get 70fps with a 7800 xtx and 58fps with a 9070 xt

[lusty scarab]

So 7900XTX would be the better choice

[hard juniper]

i'd say so

[lusty scarab]

Alright, thanks!

[hard juniper]

if you want more opinions i'd ask some of the other people here as well, they're probably more knowledgeable

[polar mountain]

get the cheaper one, i have a 9070xt, upgraded from 7900xt, also paired with a 7800x3d

[dry quartz]

oh wow that sounds like not a worthy upgrade

for how much would u sell the 7900xt to me? 😄

[polar mountain]

i sold it 3 months ago for 600 euros

[dry quartz]

man, you are a good entrepreneur for a child

[pure ibex]

This is basically what I saw personally

[pure ibex]

The 9070 xt likely can surpass the 7900 xtx

[lusty scarab]

You mean with FSR4 or..?

[pure ibex]

In raw compute

I already tested it

It’s only slightly slower than the xtx in most cases when you undervolt the card

It’s also way way way faster in ray tracing

[lusty scarab]

So it'll run Stalker 2 with more fps than the 7900XTX?

[pure ibex]

It runs it about the same unless you have an overclocked 9800x3d lol

Game is insanely cpu limited

[lusty scarab]

Alright, thank you!

[late ferry]

_serjojo has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[late ferry]

oleksa27 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

the 9070 also has way more RT perf (like +50% IIRC)
so in my opinion
if you can get the 9070 XT at a reasonable price do it

+26% RT perf

i was so far off lol

though
in black myth wukong its actually 57% faster

and in AW 2 its 44% faster

[polar mountain]

Also beats a 5080 in raster alan wake 2 iirc

[lusty scarab]

Aight, I will get the 9070XT then

[hasty dock]

Sup everyone? Quick question maybe someone can help me. I for the life of me cant find the fsr4 toggle (i have a 9070XT)

I can find 3.1 just not 4 :,(

[tawny thicket]

the toggle should be in the AMD driver

not the game : )
(if thats where you were looking for it)

and not all games with FSR 3.1 have been whitelisted to allow you to use it

[hasty dock]

Well, sadly enough I'm using gamepass, so it doesnt show kn the driver😭

[tawny thicket]

maybe you could add the games exe manually

[hasty dock]

Already did. Doesn't dhoe the fsr4 sadly enough guess I'll have to wait till they add a option ingame

[tawny thicket]

i think there is a mod that will let you use FSR 4 in any game

even if the game isnt whitelisted by AMD

[hasty dock]

Great, I'll check that out, ty

[tawny thicket]

https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler/releases

i think it now supports FSR 4

[polar mountain]

toggle in adrenalin, it should show active when youre using fsr 3.1 upscaling or native aa, also restart after enabling it, i activated fsr4 on global instead of separate for each game

[tawny thicket]

Stalker 2 isnt on the whitelist sadly
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/game-changing-updates-fsr-4-afmf-2-1-ai-powered-features-amp/ba-p/748504

[polar mountain]

it does say active for me tho

[tawny thicket]

does it look like it is though ?

[polar mountain]

idk cant tell, dont remember how fsr 3.1 looked like, tho i can see it on horizon forbidden west

[tawny thicket]

okay
then
is every thing constantly shimmering and does your knife constantly have ghost trails behind it
and do power cables randomly decide to un-exist

[polar mountain]

yeah

[tawny thicket]

then i dont think it works : (

[polar mountain]

jack said it looked really good lmao

[tawny thicket]

also
what res do you play at again ?
i forgot : (

[polar mountain]

2560x1440

[tawny thicket]

then even at 1440p FSR 3.1 shimmers

in Stalker anyway

[plucky quail]

Use dll

[tawny thicket]

i do not belive that the FSR 4 driver DLL works with the 3.1 DLL

[tawny thicket]

oh, and yeah
it does work
at least in cyberpunk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jg41sT8sAuY

its also a night and day difference

[tawny thicket]

you just gotta get the nightly builds

[plucky quail]

How are the OCs going?

[polar mountain]

if youre talking about 9070xt then max 7-9% gain

which is mostly undervolt around -100mv and 2750mhz vram with fast timings

[plucky quail]

Are the frames Stable? Owen had FPS graph problems with higher ram

[polar mountain]

yeah its fine

[plucky quail]

All stock gone in germany waiting if new stock is this week here

[serene leaf]

i see that game freeze is going on... anyone figure this out........ b4 my game froze i had 31.8gb of ram used up ( i have 32 ) and discord with steam are the only thing opened

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j01apNq-K2c

Gem of YT vidoes i found

[wooden rapids]

omg!

ATI

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDjQXqb7iPM
Sweet 🥺

[pure ibex]

I know this guy actually

[coarse linden]

Oh my.. My 5070 Ti have been send and will be at my hands tomorrow

Bloody finally.. Been boring few weeks without GPU

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzAiAdG4QY
Finding some insane stuff lol

[hollow kettle]

Waiting on this gpu has been the longest few days of my life and I still have four or five more to go

[coarse linden]

I really should learn to wait until i have new GPU before selling old one...

[hollow kettle]

Yeah no way I could do that! I can’t go without my games id lose my mind

[coarse linden]

Atleast i ran benchmarks and whatnot before selling so i know how bad of an upgrade this is

Though testing Stalker 2 is waste of my time since CPU is screaming for its miserable life

[hollow kettle]

I logged back in for the first time in a few days and I’m actually surprised how well my pc is handling 1440p in this game. Ofc I am using optimized settings but still most are at epic or high. A few medium. With dlss Q + FG I’m getting 90-105 fps in Rostok. Some micro stutters here and there but mostly good

And only using 6.5-7gb vram. Usually hovering closer to 6.5GB

[dim yew]

Will mfg be on 4080super?

[hollow kettle]

Only on 50 series i don’t think Nvidia is going to bring it to 40 series (or if they are even capable of utilizing it) but I could be wrong. Haven’t really been paying any attention to nvidia lately

[polar mountain]

No, only 50 series

[dim yew]

Yeah but soon people can make it work right? 4080 and 4090 have more ai tops than some 50 series

[polar mountain]

Its about the optical flow hardware, not AI tops

[dim yew]

Oh yeah but 40 series still have those optical flow accelerators

[polar mountain]

50 series has better ones

[coarse linden]

40 series as i recall lacks flip metering too so you can get MFG run on it but it will be abysmal

Along the lines DLSS FG on 30 series so basically useless

Interestingly RX 9070 and XT both have flip metering hardware so most likely those will eventually have AMD version of MFG

[dim yew]

Looked online just now and apparently many users say it is possible, personally i think mfg is great for single player games.

[coarse linden]

Possible yes but playable?

[plucky quail]

It will not come. Even if they could they won’t do it by their track record. And the mfg is for specific use cases. You probably wouldn’t use it( need it)

[dim yew]

I would need or use it in single player games

[plucky quail]

For what 300fps in single player? Mind you it’s not performance so there is latency increase

[dim yew]

Yeah im aware but if the base fps is like 25-30, that means the input will feel like that. However it isn’t bad for just story/single player games.

[plucky quail]

You are also aware of the artifacting?

[dim yew]

Yes

[plucky quail]

You need base +60fps

[coarse linden]

Better off with alternative MFG then trying to tapefix something that isnt designed to run on it

[dim yew]

I cant notice really the quality between Native vs FG+Dlss

But of course i notice the fps

[plucky quail]

That are 2 diff things v

[plucky quail]

You can look it up some problems that come with it that you surly notice.

[dim yew]

Also very wird bug with stalker 2

[dim yew]

Native on 1440p, there is just bad random white pixels in high detail areas. But with dlss it greatly reduces it. Why does my game do that?

[plucky quail]

White pixels?

[coarse linden]

Radiation effect?

[dim yew]

Its not that, i would boot up the game and show you buts it 2am

[plucky quail]

Maybe dust particles

[dim yew]

Its not just white particles either sometimes

Ill send a video Tomarrow showing it

[plucky quail]

What are you using when you don’t use dlss

[coarse linden]

Then this is pretty much pointless convo for now

[dim yew]

Native 1440p

[plucky quail]

Yea but what aa

[dim yew]

What?

[plucky quail]

Anti aliasing

[dim yew]

Pretty sure its off, but i will check tmw

[plucky quail]

Yea you should not run this game without AA

[tawny thicket]

*upscaling

That's what they are called in game

[spare coral]

Use native dlss (dlaa) it will fix that lol

Or any upscaling on native to fix that really

[tawny thicket]

Cuz without DLSS the game has no TAA and UE5 heavily relies on TAA to hide artifacts

[flat brook]

That’ll be it then

[tawny thicket]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-to-feature-3840-cuda-cores-150w-tgp-and-8gb-gddr7-memory

😤

[pure ibex]

Wow a useless gpu

I can’t wait to buy this one

[hard juniper]

personally i'm waiting for the 5050 🙏

50/50 it melts

[plucky quail]

AMD from the leaks making a 8gb 9060

Bad AMD bad

[tawny thicket]

What a useless gpu

[vestal tusk]

8GB of vram in 2025💀

id rather play on my series X xbox then touch such a weak card lol

[hollow kettle]

I am no longer stressing. UPS officially tell me my 9070 is on the way!

Will be here Friday afternoon

[pure ibex]

Where is the overclocking tools

[tawny thicket]

Noice

[tawny thicket]

optiscaler showcase by terra ware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz2kCCIdLws

[plucky quail]

Cyberpunk is just made for Nvidia. That they still put FSR3.0 in is a crime.

[tawny thicket]

from this video it seems that
FSR 4 AA Q 1440P = 0.5ms
FSR 3.1 AA Q 1440p = 0.4ms

[plucky quail]

I didn’t see what AA is better in any FSR vs dlss video

[tawny thicket]

i was wrong

thats quality upscale not AA : (

[plucky quail]

Ah

[tawny thicket]

and thats at 150~ fps

[agile harbor]

hello stalker discord

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/55DX21ErYjk?si=-499VhXE0sbKJSiL

that’s why I need you guys with real test. I don’t get why so many After Launch Reviews say it’s XTX lvl.

[polar mountain]

@pure ibex did you try gta v enhanced? for some reason my gpu doesnt draw over 120w on both rt on max and off, with rt on i have at most 50fps with locked 20.00ms frametime and with rt off max 90-100fps still not drawing over 120w, gpu usage is 70-80% lol?

[pure ibex]

I’ve not

I don’t play gta

[spare coral]

That game works like that on almost every gpu
Its just weird

[tawny thicket]

all of these sort of videos are 100% fake made up BS

[coarse linden]

Probably going to need more love from drivers

[polar mountain]

some games are buggy and need restarts, like cs2 i was getting 80 fps in a smoke on anubis bro it cant be that bad 😭 or black ops 6 one match i have 300+ fps and the next one i have 150-200

[coarse linden]

I mean cs2 problems were known since reviews

AMD drivers doing AMD things

[tawny thicket]

and

[tawny thicket]

just cuz i was argueing with someone that said 8GB of VRAM is actually enough

[coarse linden]

To be fair 8GB card is already abysmal so it barely can even run demanding games in the first place so doesnt matter if its got 8gb or 200gb

[tawny thicket]

replace "is" with "will" plz

[hard juniper]

i was struggling with 8gb in 2023, can't imagine still having only 8 today and trying to play latest games
requirements increased quick

[tawny thicket]

i got my RX 6600 in early 2024 IIRC i was happy
just to launch ark ascended and get the good old out of VRAM probelm : (

[coarse linden]

Only game i have experienced running out of vram was cyberpunk with rt shenanigans

[tawny thicket]

i'd say that the 3060 Super TIE has enough raw perf for that

[coarse linden]

Stalker 2 allocates over 8gb but actually uses around 6gb for me

[tawny thicket]

when Stalker was still new-ish i had problems with VRAM
but after 1.1
i could pretty reliable run S2 on the high preset

[coarse linden]

Doesnt exist?

[tawny thicket]

no, it does (3060 Super TIE = 4060 TI 8gb) : )

[coarse linden]

Eh how about we talk card with their actual names

[tawny thicket]

okay
i will try to not meme on sh*t cards from now on

[coarse linden]

My 2 cents is 8gb is enough for 1080p gaming still

[tawny thicket]

yeah...
uhhh
no.

[coarse linden]

Its "low end" card anyway

Settings should reflect that

[polar mountain]

150 tops

[tawny thicket]

you are even more brutal than me : )

[polar mountain]

yeah bro aint no way a 8gb gpu will run warzone at 1080p just fine, even cs2 at 1440p low eats 10gb vram

[tawny thicket]

BRUH

[hard juniper]

bro is not playing around

[tawny thicket]

CS 2 : 10GB VRAM usage ??????

[polar mountain]

8gb new gpus are just straight e-waste imo, only if you get them used as a really good deal

[coarse linden]

There is no way cs2 eats taht much

Either you are looking at allocated or talking out of your rear

[tawny thicket]

i dont think it would eat that much on an 8GB card

[polar mountain]

like for 150-200 you could get a used 6700-6700xt there shouldnt be any excuse for anyone to buy a new 8gb gpu thats also worse pure power (4060/6650xt/7600)

[polar mountain]

nah it actually uses that much on 1440p with CMAA2 and medium shadows/ambient occlusion

[coarse linden]

Bs

[polar mountain]

my vram was maxed on 3070

[tawny thicket]

it makes me sad that the 4060 is the most popular GPU

[polar mountain]

yeah and some guys would say nvidia is the best cuz "just look at steam hardware survey" bruh no

[tawny thicket]

i cant belive how so many people bought the 4060 over the 3060
cuz the 4060 is the inferior product

3060 12GB much much better

[vestal tusk]

4060 is a straight up scam

[polar mountain]

ive got 2 friends, one with 5600/3060 12gb and one with 13400f/4060, the guy with 3060 was playing warzone just fine at 100-120fps and the one with 4060 had 80-90 but not that smooth, some random micro stutters here and there when fighting

[tawny thicket]

any 8GB GPU above 250 is 100% a scam

[coarse linden]

Hard to buy card that havent been made for years

[vestal tusk]

Fr

[polar mountain]

that was almost 2 years ago

[tawny thicket]

i dont think they are a scam at 200 and below though

[polar mountain]

for 270-290 you can easily lowball a 6800 16gb lol

[tawny thicket]

just blame intel
smh

[polar mountain]

13400f is def a bit better than 5600, 12gb on 3060 help a lot

[tawny thicket]

remember the HUB 6800 XT / non XT VS 4060 TI video ?

[polar mountain]

no send it

[tawny thicket]

here it be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZ-jY_OqUA&t

[polar mountain]

63% faster in dying light 2 🤣

[tawny thicket]

polls going for anyone interested
#pc-specs message

[dim yew]

I have the videos to show you

But i cant send them here

[coarse linden]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos probably

[tawny thicket]

Imagine getting this after buying a 9800 X3D
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/fake-ryzen-7-9800x3d-bought-from-amazon-was-actually-an-old-amd-fx-chip-disguised-by-ihs-sticker

[plucky quail]

It gonna bulldoze its competition

[coarse linden]

Why even bother putting sticker on it

[opaque moat]

they need to get rid of the spoilers pc spec channel... theres no spoilers here anyway. double posting is mid lol

[coarse linden]

I still havent finished the game pff

[opaque moat]

rip

[hard juniper]

me neither

[opaque moat]

👨‍🦽

[plucky quail]

What are you guys doing benchmarking 24/7?

[coarse linden]

Eh first was waiting for few patches

Now its either patches or until this poor CPU gets replaced since i think its just sad how CPU goes to 80% usage and GPU 20% while fps is 23 because of too many NPC's

[flat brook]

Yes.

The most addictive part about the Chernobyl exclusion zone? Seeing the numbers on the graphs

[plucky quail]

To many ❌
Bad code ✅

[coarse linden]

Personally i blame for unreal engine

[hard juniper]

gotta love unreal

spoke to a guy that said it was perfectly reasonable that a 4090 and 7800x3d had frame drops to 40fps, since it's just new tech in a new engine

[vestal tusk]

💀

Bros lying to himself he's having bad performance on a multi thousand dollar gpu lol

He gotta cope somehow

[hard juniper]

it's actually the lead dev of an upcoming game being made on ue5
i was shocked

[vestal tusk]

💀

That's shocking

[plucky quail]

Gonna be diabolical if his game suffers from stutter

[dim yew]

https://imgur.com/a/uakKOkX

Everything maxed out/turned on except the AI stuff. DLSS quality is turned on in second part of video

First clip is native 1440p

Second clip is DLSS quality on 1440p

[dim yew]

https://discordapp.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308037145180639284/1348814729799274651

[coarse linden]

Pull sharpness down to 30ish

[dim yew]

Ok

[dim yew]

Didnt really do anything

[dim yew]

uhh so this is quite wierd, why does DLSS look so much better than native?

[coarse linden]

Because TAA is excrement

[grizzled peak]

We got any homebrew fixes for memory leaks yet lmfao

[dim yew]

I wasn't using it

So what can I do now, it still even has some of it in DLSS to. It looks horrendous

[hard juniper]

because dlss is goated and taa is ass

and even if taa isn't ass, dlss is still goated and will make most games look better than native

[dim yew]

I was comparing it to native

[dim yew]

Thats false I heard

[hard juniper]

it was already partially true years ago

with dlss 4 it's especially true unless a game has an exceptionally awful implementation or something

[dim yew]

@coarse linden do you agree?

[dim yew]

its possible to use DLSS4 upscaler on 40 series right

[hard juniper]

yeah it's just a dll

[flat brook]

Because natively, Nanite handles the LODs for objects like trees etc, this causes them to be “blocky” (leaves branches so forth) which causes an ungodly amount of aliasing, DLSS essentially tries to counter this

[coarse linden]

Yes. There is no reason not to use DLSS/DLAA if you have access to it really since native suffers from bad TAA implementation about 98% of the time

[dim yew]

my game still has that even with DLSS on. The ghosting

[flat brook]

You shouldn’t have any ghosting with DLAA and no FG, atleast I don’t

[dim yew]

whats the difference between DLAA and DLSS

[flat brook]

DLAA is Anti aliasing, DLSS is Super Sampling/Upscaling. the latter takes your resolution, downscales it and then scales it back up

[hard juniper]

dlaa is essentially dlss without the upscaling

think taa but without any of the negatives and all the positives

[dim yew]

so DLSS is better and I should use it mainly

[flat brook]

DLAA is better for visual fidelity, DLSS should only be used if you’re struggling for frames/VRAM usage and you’re already on 1440p native

[dim yew]

Well im not really struggling running it so I should use DLAA then

[coarse linden]

Have you changed any settings on nvidia control panel?

[dim yew]

no

[coarse linden]

No Nvidia filters running?

[dim yew]

i never put any on

[pure ibex]

@tawny thicket I’m renaming you poll boy

[spare coral]

Dlaa is basically DLSS on native resolution

[sturdy grove]

my CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor, Memory (RAM) 8GB (1 of 4 slots), GPU: NIVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650

[hollow kettle]

You’re able to play stalker 2 with those specs?

[sturdy grove]

yes, but super super laggy. like 5FPS

i actually have a footage of my lag, where can i show?

[dim yew]

how do you even enjoy the game

[sturdy grove]

i deal with it 😇

md_Nspin

honestly? when i get lucky for combat, i REALLY love the shooting

[dim yew]

what settings and resolution

[sturdy grove]

imma send you screenshots in your DMs, cause i gotta close my discord and every app and then ill screenshot it brb

[dim yew]

Ok

[sturdy grove]

check DMs

[plucky quail]

Guys new Stock of 9070xt they cost 80€ extra but it’s oc card

[tawny thicket]

How

Even for me back when i only had my VEGA 3 IGP + 3200U 10fps was the bare minimum

[sturdy grove]

because, i have a secret up my sleeve

[tawny thicket]

What? You don't even look at the monitor ?

[sturdy grove]

nah mate i got the balls of steels to play it on like that

it happens

[tawny thicket]

Change it back

[tawny thicket]

Oh,god

Imagine what it would run like for us literall peasants

Who don't have a 4090

[plucky quail]

I thought we all have a 10k battle station at home

[tawny thicket]

Lol

[austere crane]

ummm akkkkshually it's a 10k command station, not battle station 🤓

[tawny thicket]

Erm actually it is a command center, a not a station

[pure ibex]

Stay in line poll boy

[tawny thicket]

pppfffttt

[tawny thicket]

Im gonna cry

[late ferry]

.slimestar has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wooden rapids]

9950X3D, I’m coming to slap that phat 🍑

[hollow kettle]

Newegg has a bunch of 9070 combo deals some with gpu + mobo others gpu + psu. They are slightly over msrp though.

I can’t find any individual units anymore though

[hollow kettle]

So is that him admitting the optimization is garbage? XD

Oh wow that message was a lot older than I thought lol

[coarse linden]

Just like you

[tawny thicket]

Ooff

[hard juniper]

i suppose so? lmao

it's in pre alpha rn, it runs decently but frame gen + upscaling is basically mandatory

can only hope it improves

[plucky quail]

That’s a dev that tries to excuse his lack of smart decision making.

[opaque moat]

people hoping UE5 improves? ...good luck . the more it evolves, the higher tier hardware its gonna need

all uphill from here boyz ♿

[wooden rapids]

9950X3D and a custom loop

[plucky quail]

delidded 9950x3d

[flat brook]

I love democracy

[vestal tusk]

Ong

[late ferry]

racing5566 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

im crying

☹️😖😭😭

[vestal tusk]

I've decided to change the results Ong

[tawny thicket]

thx : )

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/NxjhtkzuH9M?si=NKm1YKlwhQAEKm5h

[flat brook]

The election was rigged!

[tawny thicket]

kek

[serene meteor]

I do not see why you will buy a 9950X3D when in games is 99,9% the same performance as a 9800X3D, if gaming is the most intensive thing you do on your PC.

For productivity prosumer will be a nice CPU but for gamers just waste of money.

[tawny thicket]

yeah, of course

[pure ibex]

Don’t worry I corrected it he’s poll boy again

[pure ibex]

No hate toward lightning I just

Think poll boy is very funny

[tawny thicket]

😤

[wooden rapids]

Wasting money is what define the PCMR

more cores means dezipping [insert whatever but iykyk] faster, better for multi tasking, saturating the 5G LAN

[opaque moat]

👨‍🦽

[coarse linden]

Ah... Finally got the 5070ti

And its even got all the ROPs

[plucky quail]

Well no you forgor overclocker that want the best sample

[polar mountain]

some like to brag about having a 200mhz faster cpu

[wooden rapids]

Would be a perfect time post a rage bait

But I don’t feel like it today

[serene meteor]

Good luck with OC, mine can do 5.5 Ghz but... you do not want to know the heat over 90C even undervolted and water cooler AIO. 😅 The more cores, even harder to OC.

[plucky quail]

Nah 1 of the ccds are off

Only using X3D and look how much fps you get in stalker the new crysis for CPUs

[opaque moat]

little ole me sitting here with 13600k getting 120 fps in rostok of all places

[plucky quail]

Guys does FSR 4 have AI FG or does it still use 3.1

Ehh anyone of the many oled experts. 650€ for 1440p qd-oled 360hz monitor with hdr10+ good price?

Also found a 32” 4K 165hz monitor 400 hdr 800€

[hard juniper]

i paid £800 for one, so i'd say yes

they just get cheaper and cheaper

[plucky quail]

What do you have?

[hard juniper]

AW2725DF

very happy with it

[plucky quail]

680€ here now 15% off

It’s the 360hz one right?

[hard juniper]

yeah that's it

[plucky quail]

I guess in a year it’s just 500€ worth. 1.5 years ago I noticed huge decrease in cost for monitors. That looks really good rn. Hope that it falls more and more down to make it wildly available for everyone.

[flat brook]

If you’re interested in HDR I wouldn’t grab one with HDR10, HDR 400 will be a much better experience

[plucky quail]

The number after hdr is the color range right?

[coarse linden]

Fairly certain its just old FG. Otherwise Marketing would have been screaming top of their lungs about it

[flat brook]

It’s the standard/color range/brightness, but just read that HDR400 is essentially the same as HDR10, if you want an actual worthwhile upgrade get a panel that supports HDR10+ or HDR600

[hollow kettle]

I’ve read that “one of the key features of FSR 4 is its integration with frame generation, allowing the AI cores in RX 9000-series GPUs to generate additional frames, similar to Nvidia's DLSS frame generation.”
And “FSR 4 represents a major leap forward for AMD's upscaling technology, moving to a machine learning-based approach utilizing RDNA 4 AI accelerators similar to Nvidia's DLSS, while FSR 3.1 uses traditional algorithms”

[tawny thicket]

Nope, same old FFI

[tawny thicket]

Probably an article written by AI

[serene meteor]

oh i know, even in stalker 2 i seen over 40% boost in performance from 5800X3D, at least at 1% low FPS the game is much consistent in higher frames, and i keep my CPU slight OC, around 5.3 Ghz not to get hot and to stay under 70C in games.

[polar mountain]

Decent, mine was 500 euros

G6 odyssey 360hz qd oled matte

[tawny thicket]

So AMD does sell these
Just not to us peasants
https://videocardz.com/newz/amds-unreleased-radeon-rx-9070-xt-reference-design-shows-up-in-china

[plucky quail]

We have mfg at home AFMF2+fsrFG

[past escarp]

thats sad, it actually looks good

[plucky quail]

Wait what. That looks even better than the render

How can they do this to us

[fast coral]

guys 4060 so gass

stalker 2 spec sheet pre launch was bs

shit runns butter on high settings

[hard juniper]

yeah the downside is just having a 4060

[serene meteor]

9800X3D still the best for gaming - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TjSRJXZ8gs
Do not waste on 9950X3D... 😁

[fast coral]

how come?

such a good card

[hard juniper]

nothing just a joke on how it wasn't a very good card

[fast coral]

its amazing wahatt??

[hard juniper]

not a huge performance increase and poorly priced

[fast coral]

copped mine for 400, 60 percent increase from a 1660 ti

what else better am i gonna get for 400

[hard juniper]

yeah ofc if you can get it for a good price and are coming from 3 generations back, it's fine

[fast coral]

blimey that 1660

thing held up tryna run stalker 2, it ran, but had huge lag spikes that would last hours

i think the worst part to run was garbage, garbage was just verry intense, i got to about meeting korshunov for the first time before switchign cards

[tawny thicket]

400 for a 4060 ???
Thats a SCAM

you can almost get a 7700 XT for that much

[fast coral]

fym, from australian dollars to like us dollars that something like

250

[tawny thicket]

ahh
sorry
jmped the gun on thinking it was EUR or USD
sorry : (

[fast coral]

400 retarded for usd price but

gn fellas

[plucky quail]

Price

[plucky quail]

Ah that’s Not even Bad

[hollow kettle]

I’m surprised even in 1440p my vram isn’t maxing out in Rostok. Well using dlss balanced and FG

[plucky quail]

So gaming at sub 960p

[hollow kettle]

Still looks better than taa

[tawny thicket]

https://imgsli.com/MzU4NjE4

high quality TAA

[lusty scarab]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve this build without increasing the price by too much?
https://tweakers.net/gallery/883219/wenslijst/?wish_id=1904786

[plucky quail]

Throw the wlan card out.

Get 9800x3d if you can
The 9070XT is by 150-100€ overpriced

Psu you could get for cheaper with same W
Also same quality

And too much ram for gaming 32gb is max you should go

[spare coral]

And only bad optimized games use 32gb anyway 🥶

[lusty scarab]

I want to be able to use WiFi and I definitely want bluetooth

[lusty scarab]

I want to have a surplus of RAM because I might want to have stuff open in the background while gaming and not run out of memory

[lusty scarab]

9800x3d is not that much better and it's quite a bit more expensive. The fact that the 9070XT is overpriced is something I sadly cannot control and I want to build the pc pretty soon so it is what it is

[hard juniper]

star citizen 🔥

[spare coral]

Dunno if there is a psu tier list that is up to date with new psus
Maybe you should try checking out reviews and see if you can get one cheaper that is the same quality

[lusty scarab]

Dunno, Seasonic is a known good brand for psus. So I thought this choice was pretty safe. I won’t be able to save much anyway by choosing a cheaper one. Now that I think of it though there might be newer Seasonic psus so I’m gonna check that

[plucky quail]

You got WiFi

[lusty scarab]

Oh lol, I see it now

[plucky quail]

Yes that’s still plenty I have 32gb and have browser on and only use 22gb

[plucky quail]

Ant it 50€ more?

[lusty scarab]

Aight, thanks, I’ll go for 32 then

[plucky quail]

If you want to buy it now you can get it

[plucky quail]

Yea it’s gold and 850w it should not cost that much.

[lusty scarab]

It’s €85 more

Is that worth it though? To spend €85 more for the 9800X3D?

Nvm, I will get the 9800X3D. €85 is not that much in relation to the price of the build

[plucky quail]

9800x3d is around 11-15% better for 16% more money it’s your decision

[lusty scarab]

Aight I changed the list. Other CPU, PSU and motherboard and removed the WiFi card

RAM is still 64gb, but it’s future proof so idc if it’s too much

[plucky quail]

Why did you change motherboard

The Gigabyte was better

[lusty scarab]

So it supports WiFi 7 as well

Future proofing basically

[plucky quail]

For 1GBps ?

[lusty scarab]

Thoughts on this one then?
https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/2112434/gigabyte-x870-aorus-elite-wifi7.html

[plucky quail]

Do you have even that fast internet

[lusty scarab]

Not yet, but in the future I might

[flat brook]

If he’s Dutch, probably fibre optic

[plucky quail]

Download gta6 200gb in 30min

[plucky quail]

It’s good

[lusty scarab]

Aight, I’m going to get that one then

[plucky quail]

Good luck stalker

[lusty scarab]

@limber wedge Do you also have some case recommendations? The one in the list I chose quite some time ago, so there might be better ones out now. I do want one with RGB though

I already got another one in the list, but recommendations are still welcome

[plucky quail]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/2397800/AMD-Ryzen-9-9950X3D-16-Core-Processor#tffaq_anchor

Lol userbenchmark has down on the side defending there hate that they are getting

Why does UserBenchmark have negative trustpilot reviews?

"The 200+ trustpilot reviews are mostly written by virgin marketing accounts. Real users don't give a monkey's about big brands."

[vestal tusk]

[plucky quail]

If you are considering an AMD 9000 series GPU for your PC because you have been influenced by Reddit, Twitter or a wealthy tech YouTuber, it’s worth understanding AMD’s track record. While their GPUs are normally great at beating cherry-picked benchmarks, they often fall short in real-world gaming performance. Every year, an army of influencers target first-time buyers declaring AMD a godsend for PC gamers. Every year a small percentage of users get duped. Since almost all PC gamers use Steam, the February 2025 Steam statistics are relevant: AMD’s combined market share for discrete 5000/6000/7000 series GPUs is just 3%. This reality starkly contrasts with influencer hype. The reason is simple: actual gamers rarely buy an AMD GPU more than once. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, black screens, excessive noise and a limited feature set. It’s worth noting that AMD’s GPUs have not historically had these problems in consoles because, unlike PCs, consoles operate in a closed environment which is less dependent on robust drivers. Using influencers for hardware performance data is about as effective as using foxes to guard chickens.

MORE TALKING ABOUT 9070XT LOL#

[flat brook]

Ah yes, keep seething Userbenchmark

[plucky quail]

Userbenchmark ngl sounds like a 50 Year old guy that cant move on from the past and can except that AMD is winning the lead

[flat brook]

Manchild at its finest

[thorny remnant]

Its Funny how half of their Ryzen CPU reviews are filled with
Amd Gpu trash talk
Like at least keep on the subject

[plucky quail]

The same otherway around like everytime they find somehow a way to talk shit about AMD

[tawny thicket]

UserShitBark is such a meme lol

IIRC they think that a 13600K is better than a 7800X3D

[hollow kettle]

There is a few sites that say that lol I don’t trust any anymore. Although the few times I have looked at NanoReview site it seemed like decent info I guess

I will have my 9070 in about 12 hours hopefully

[tawny thicket]

Just go to GN or HUB

[tawny thicket]

Noice

[pure ibex]

These fucken lobotomites have intels fist 50 feet up there ass

Intels gotta have split them in half at this point they’ve been fucked so hard

[tawny thicket]

Lol

[pure ibex]

When I see people post user benchmark there rizz drops to zero

[serene meteor]

UserBenchmark site truly hates AMD in general. To them only Intel and Nvidia matters. A shit hole of tech illiterates.

[vestal tusk]

Userbenchmark goofy as hell

[plucky quail]

Still wondering who userbenchmark is

[vestal tusk]

i bet he's an intel employee tbh only thing that can explain the extreme bias

[pure ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771895465221685258/1350085086003073145/IMG_2912.png?ex=67d57437&is=67d422b7&hm=714b230b011455695bd0f5e4af8ba09926039419a1ded9c868fabac8459a3ad7&

The overclockers made a slight break through

[tawny thicket]

Prolly some lobotomite living in his moms basement and someone who had a bad experience with AMD once

[pure ibex]

He bought fx

The bad one

Not the good one

[wooden rapids]

[atomic inlet]

Shut you absolute, nVidia fan boy.

So many letters, so much waffle.

[wooden rapids]

Can we block userbenchmark url

[tawny thicket]

Would be nice to have that on All servers

[wooden rapids]

I mean you can do that personally on your web browser

[tawny thicket]

Not even just discord
That site should be deleted for being so shit

[wooden rapids]

In fact, all brower auto blacklist the list of your choice (was created for p*right now control)

I already blocked it, so it doesn’t appear on my search results

Now my sanity is in check

[plucky quail]

What

[hollow kettle]

My 9070 is here!!!

https://imgur.com/a/wycyH8X

[flat brook]

Congrats mate!

[plucky quail]

Tell us how your GPU runs in Stalker

[past escarp]

okay so i`ve reinstalled my gpu and in first boot first seconds on windows booting screen i had white dots, and now they are gone, so does it mean i installed it badly or is it okay?

[hollow kettle]

Thanks man
@plucky quail I will definitely. Hopefully I get it installed and ready to game before I need to leave for work in about 2 hours

[dry quartz]

Tatooos.... tatooos. I demand tatoos in Stalker 2. One with a face tatoo at least

[plucky quail]

You know what would be cooler? Stalker Multiplayer where i can make my own story in the zone

[dry quartz]

I would kill you and tea bag your face. that would be ur story

[plucky quail]

I would buy some mercs for protection

[dry quartz]

so ur mercs would tea bag me?

[plucky quail]

si

[hard juniper]

if it's working it's working

be concerned if the problems come back

[plucky quail]

Well My GPU is outputting nothing the VGA light is on. Looks like the XTX is dead. Can use IGPU least

[hollow kettle]

Dude I am stressing installing this gpu. I don’t have two seperate 8 pin cables so I just used the one that has 2 8 pins in same cable..I think everything is seated properly. I am praying I didn’t mess anything up

[past escarp]

i mean now everything is fine, but still im a bit worried abt it

[plucky quail]

Should be fine

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/a/wdZQcIk

it’s working gents!!! Man I am so happy

Wish it was a black card but ah well no big deal

[hollow kettle]

Weird I think my only game not showing up in adrenaline is stalker 2

What settings should I try to run stalker 2 at 1440p with this card? Max settings? 🤣 idk if it can handle it. Taking forever to install shaders

[tawny thicket]

you also wanna get optiscaler so you can use FSR 4 in Stalker

https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler/releases/tag/nightly

[tawny thicket]

and in fact
pretty much any game

[hollow kettle]

Thanks I will download after work. Sucks I get installed 9070 now I can’t play games for 6 hours

I will have to adjust my osd for afterburner too. It is all messed up but least it shows frametime still

[hollow kettle]

Does the override setting in adrenaline work? It say any fsr 3.1 game you can toggle that override on and make it fsr 4

[past escarp]

guys do you know why sapphires app shows gpu temp +10 from other apps?

[tawny thicket]

any game with FSR 3.1 has to be whitelisted by AMD for that to work
and i am pretty sure Stalker 2 isnt on the list : (

[hollow kettle]

Oh yeah forgot about the list. I check and it not there sadly

[tawny thicket]

yeah, sounds like you will need optiscaler

[hollow kettle]

Do you use hyper rx, quality or default in adrenaline?

I have it on quality right now

[tawny thicket]

custom,
i only have Radeon image sharpening,Enhanced sync and Anti Lag enabled
i have everything else disabled

AFMF 2.1 and RSR dont work for me

my guess is its a problem with my win-dowes install

[tawny thicket]

quality will be the default sort of experiance

with almost all the driver features disabled

[hollow kettle]

I load in just before I have to leave. Every setting on Epic at fsr native AA 65-70 fps!!

[tawny thicket]

1440p ?

[hollow kettle]

Yes

[tawny thicket]

thats great !

[hollow kettle]

Bro I am so happy I almost cry 🥲

[tawny thicket]

maan, just how bad i want to get a card of that tier

[hollow kettle]

Hopefully they restock and you can get one sometime (:

It is very good deal imo even for $640 I paid

[tawny thicket]

yeah, europe is screwing with me right now : (

[tawny thicket]

absolutely
100%
agree

[tawny thicket]

here the 4070 costs 741 € !!!

the super is actually cheaper though
but its still 703 €

[hollow kettle]

I can’t even find 4070 here other than maybe few scalper seller and they are thousand or more dollars. It is crazy

[tawny thicket]

yeah, here *too AMD is the only option really

443 € for the 7700 XT

515€ for the 7800 XT

the 7900 GRE doest exist

736 € for a 7900 XT

[hard juniper]

europe gets shafted so hard with hardware prices

[tawny thicket]

836€ for the 9070 non XT

[past escarp]

yeah prices are pretty bad now, but in ukraine for example we have 4070 for abt 550-600$, but 4070su is abt 800-900$

[tawny thicket]

Im just gonna wait for more stock and stuff

[past escarp]

a bit wrong actually, 4070 is abt 600-650$

[past escarp]

i think in about half a year this problem should be gone

[tawny thicket]

350 for a B580

[past escarp]

370-400$

if we take 40:1 ratio of UAH to USD

ryzen 7 7700 is abt 300$

[tawny thicket]

878€ for the cheapest XT listing (not in stock though)

[past escarp]

too weak, abt 1100$

rtx 5070ti is abt 1400-1500$

[tawny thicket]

only 1214€ here

[past escarp]

guys, real question here - what air conditioner should i buy? i dont wanna die in summer when its 40C

[tawny thicket]

i mostly think of it architecturally/between products in a similar class
and not like 2080 TI VS 6900 XT

[hollow kettle]

So altogether I spend about $1500 usd for a very good 1440p setup. Not too bad really

That is including monitor, keyboard, mouse etc

[hollow kettle]

Ppl are telling me that my cable is likely to melt since I plugged both 8 pins in from the same single cable. I don’t think my psu has another 8 pin cable. Now it has me stressing out

[plucky quail]

What does Single cable mean? Like mine combine in to one big but are both 2x 6+2 pins

[hollow kettle]

The cable has one main 6+2 pin then smaller cable branch off main is another 6+2 pin

[plucky quail]

So you have 2x 6+2 pin?

[hollow kettle]

It’s a Y split cable with 2 6+2 pins

[plucky quail]

Thats totally normal

You are fine

[hollow kettle]

They are telling me it will melt in pc help hub server. But I google and it say Y split cable like mine can handle 300 watt

[plucky quail]

Yea they are trolling

[hollow kettle]

And my gpu only draw max 220-240

[plucky quail]

More than 300W with 2x 6+2 watt

[hollow kettle]

Man I was about to put a new psu on my credit card I’m glad you said something 😂

[plucky quail]

XTX uses that amount and can draw 355W

[plucky quail]

No problem

[hollow kettle]

You use Y split cable with two 6+2 also?

[plucky quail]

Yes its merged in to one but is a Y cable with 2x 6+2 pins

[hollow kettle]

What gpu you have? Xtx?

[plucky quail]

XTX

[hollow kettle]

If xtx can handle that then surely 9070 will be just fine

[hollow kettle]

If you are able to and don’t mind, can you post photo on Imgur of what your cable looks like with the 2 6+2 pin part? I want to make sure it is same or similar

[plucky quail]

Good that we have no 12V power rail 🙂

[hollow kettle]

If not it is okay though

[plucky quail]

Send it

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/a/yYCUBkR

this is only pic I really have while I’m at work. But you can see it is one cable then splits into two connector

[plucky quail]

Yea that perfectly normal. I did build a PC for my friend he has the same cable type

[hollow kettle]

Okay 😮‍💨 I was almost having panic attack 😂 thanks

I spend too much money on this for cables to melt on me

[opaque moat]

flex

[spare coral]

Now you wont expect the melted cables

[hollow kettle]

Don’t say that :/

[past escarp]

my 7800xt connected the same way and it still hasn`t burned. i would say that it depend more on psu and its cables

[hollow kettle]

Well..I have the psu that came in IBuyPower prebuilt. Which I think is High Power brand. I know for sure it is 750w 80+ gold lol but definitely not a great brand by any means

[past escarp]

my psu is also 750w 80+ gold - chieftec polaris, so i guess you should be fine

[opaque moat]

daisy chain is not recommended. most 750W power supplies come with minimum (3) 8 pin connectors unless its low/mid-range (for budget builds)

daisy chaining a 7800xt is a facepalm moment. just sayin

[past escarp]

never had any problems with it

[opaque moat]

good, im just sayin, you wont find anyone with credibility recomend daisychain a high end gpu

[past escarp]

i am not recomending it, but rather saying that its fine. im not using second cable just because im too lazy to reconect whole pc

[flat brook]

The issue with running 1x8 to 2x8 isn’t the cable burning, it’s simply not giving the card enough power (potentially) to run at full blast

[hollow kettle]

But when I google it say Y split cable with 2x 6+2 pin support up to 300w? How is that not okay I don’t get it

And Nico Bellic say he was using same Y split for his XTX..Or was he trolling lol

[plucky quail]

No thats the standard but the Cables can go way above the standard.

[hollow kettle]

I opened up my pc and got my psu model number. It is high power brand and the exact model specs show it having 4x 6+2 pin connectors..I am looking at the wad of cables tied up in my pc and I cannot see any more 6+2 pins

[hollow kettle]

So regardless I am seeing folks on Reddit and stuff say as long as you aren’t pushing more than 225w through daisy chain (Y split) 2x 6+2 pins then you’re good. I think I should be alright

Idk if they are correct just saying it is at least reassuring for me to read lol

[plucky quail]

One 8Pin should give you around 350W max but with that wit will 100% burn

[hollow kettle]

My 9070 drawing 230-250 watts

[astral bridge]

Hey guys, I've been out of the loop and away from my PC pretty much since the game released due to unfortunate life stuff. How much has the game been optimized since launch? Is it realistic to expect 60 FPS@1080p Medium to be attainable on a 3060 Ti without having to use AI slop to get there?

[polar mountain]

Imo its the same as launch

You can do 60 at 1080p with optimized youtube settings but expect some dips under 50 since its also really cpu bound in npc areas, i get them too with a 7800x3d and 9070xt on high settings 1440p native

[astral bridge]

Wow, that's a really powerful rig to still be getting FPS drops with

I really hope the future of mid-level PCs isn't having "AI" hallucinate 75% of your game

[polar mountain]

I think dlss quality can look the same as native even on 1080p

[hollow kettle]

Did you trade in your 5070ti?

[polar mountain]

no i returned it because i got it just to test and compare to old 7900xt and now 9070xt

[hollow kettle]

Do you like 5070ti or 9070xt better?

[polar mountain]

9070xt since it gets like 70-90fps more in black ops 6

also to my eyes fsr 4 upscaling from the adrenalin driver looks much more natural in horizon forbidden west compared to dlss/dlaa transformer, it is really stable and doesnt have that oversharpened look that you couldnt get rid of even when sharpness was set to 0

[hollow kettle]

I haven’t got to try fsr 4 yet but I’m looking forward to it. I can’t believe my 9070 is drawing 250 watts of power under load

[polar mountain]

mine is drawing 350w and had a spike of 790w 3 days ago lmao

[hollow kettle]

I am pretty impressed with non XT performance honestly. It is even better than I excepted

[polar mountain]

should be close to 7900xt performance

in between gre and xt

i can undervolt my gpu and make it at most 2-3% slower than stock and draw 120w less

[flat brook]

For the 9070 you’ll be fine with a single Y-split, My R9 290 didn’t run properly on it, but that was back in the day and a 8+6 card

[tawny thicket]

CPU performance improved by 20% for me not sure about others

votes for anyone interested
#pc-specs message
#pc-specs message
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[opaque moat]

yeah illusion,. no improvements have been made, devs cant improve performance on ue5...no game has.

[tawny thicket]

no game
other than Satisfactory

[tawny thicket]

-the only well optimized UE 5 game

[opaque moat]

the devs from the unreleased game ROOTED say UE5 needs another couple generations of hardware to run the way its supposed to.

[tawny thicket]

nah, just look at Satisfactory

works really well even on RDNA 2

[opaque moat]

ahh i see...it doesnt have as many Ai driven aspecs like Ai npc's and detailed interiors....and its been in early access for years before release.

[tawny thicket]

you can make very detailed interiours in it

and you can have thousands of machines crafting things simultaniously and still have 100+ fps when CPU bound ( thats on my R5 5600 G )

[late ferry]

der_adler_02 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky quail]

Just sounds like hardware gonna do the brute force then smart ways

[spare coral]

Better 1% lows but lower framerate in general for me

[tawny thicket]

🤷‍♂️

IDK
this is pre-1.1 for me
HIGH preset 1080p FSR Q FG:OFF

wilderness
52 avg
38 1%
33 0.1%

first settlement
33 avg
5 1%
4 0.1%

post 1.1
HIGH preset 1080p FSR Q FG:OFF

wilderness
50 avg
34 1%
30 0.1%

first settlement
43 avg
22 1%
17 0.1%

went from 33 to 43

so + 30% actually

and lows are way better

[spare coral]

I used to get 40+ on settlements and 50+ outside
Now its 30 on settlements and 40+ outside with the same settings
Even deleted the shader cache and did a fresh install of the game

[tawny thicket]

weird.

i guess im just lucky then

[spare coral]

Maybe i need to do a new run of the game and see if it has to do with being mid/late game

[tawny thicket]

yeah, that could also be it
i kept the same test run for 1.1 and pre 1.1 so that could be it

[ionic copper]

is there anyway to make stalker 2 playable and not lag alot on low end pc's like a 1050 without the guns and mesehs turning into actual triangles

[uneven portal]

yes, but you practically erase all the mapping,

nanite must be very aggressive for those graphic cards (not counting lumen which is practically incompatible).

[tawny thicket]

you do not play this game on a 1050 sadly

[hollow kettle]

I was wondering if I should undervolt mine bc 250w seem like a lot for this card. But idk much about all that either

[hollow kettle]

Okay good this has been causing me stress since I got the gpu 🤣

[hollow kettle]

I haven’t had video games look & run this good in years

[ionic copper]

what do you mean by erasing all the mapping? like the terrain being weird, trees disabled?

[flat brook]

Don’t worry about it, just go and enjoy it. Worst case scenario if it needs more power than the Y-cable can deliver, the GPU will just shut off, that’ll be your cue to get a second 1x8 cable in there

[hollow kettle]

I played kcd2 on ultra for like 4 hours last night and just played helldivers 2 max settings for a few hours and no issues so far other than a few minor stutters here & there. I noticed that my cpu usage in Helldivers was 80-90% ! It never went above 60% with 4060. 9070 usage was 93-99% tho so I think that is good? Means it making use of my whole system right ?

[tawny thicket]

trees and textures and most things disabled (including lumen)

[tawny thicket]

HD 2 doesnt really like AMD cards ive noticed

[ionic copper]

damn, so i suppose thats the only option to be enable to run stalker 2 on a 1050 graphics card

[hollow kettle]

I was getting about 80-90 fps on Max at native 1440p. Just the high cpu usage was shocking to see

[flat brook]

GPU usage should ideally always be 90%+, any less means the Main render thread is slowing down, either because of bad optimization on the CPU aspect of the game, or your CPU simply isn’t powerful enough. In this day and age, it’s usually the first cause I mentioned, not the latter

[tawny thicket]

i wouldnt call it an option
you are better off not playiing at that pint IMO

[hollow kettle]

Yeah my gpu was 93%+ the entire time along with cpu 80-90% so it’s fine?

[flat brook]

That’s fine, just means the game is using between 6-8 cores almost fully, which isn’t an issue if you’re not running any other CPU intensive tasks in the background

[tawny thicket]

the main problem isnt the performance of the card
its actually the VRAM
that thing has 4GB which is awfull for any modern AA/AAA game

[spare coral]

You basically need to make the game looks worse than roblox to play it and you will prolly still lag a lot on a 1050

[hollow kettle]

I have i5-13600kf think it has 6 P cores 8 E cores. So it was probably using almost all the P cores then ?

[tawny thicket]

aand
now that i think of it
the real reason the 9070 has way higher CPU usage is the fact that its way faster, and makes the CPU work harder as a result

[hollow kettle]

Idk if it only use P cores for gaming actually. I just assume

[hollow kettle]

I think this cpu & gpu is good balance of power now!

[flat brook]

If core scheduling on windows works properly, that’s what you’d expect, you’ll have to double check that with process lasso, or alternatively, limited your games .exe to your 6 cores and 6 threads through process lasso

[hollow kettle]

Neither one holding back the other so far

[uneven portal]

yea like stalker 1.2

[flat brook]

That way you’ll know for certain it’s using the correct cores and threads, and not trying to run off your e-cores

[hollow kettle]

I honestly don’t know enough about that stuff to mess with it. I wouldn’t want to screw up my cpu 😅

[flat brook]

Process lasso isn’t gonna screw up your CPU, feel free to send me a DM if you want a short step by step on how to do it

[hollow kettle]

Okay I DM you now

[opaque moat]

It turns out that the supposed Radeon RX 8800 XT is actually named the Radeon RX 9070 XT. its supposed to be competing with the 5080 not the 5070/ti. smart AMD moves 👨‍🦽

[plucky quail]

Install APO from intel

It will schedule the cores accordingly

But only games that support that

[plucky quail]

Once AMD showed that they can do marketing

[tawny thicket]

they could have just called it the 8700 XT

[plucky quail]

Nah it’s the same on the cpu side with 8000 being apu

[tawny thicket]

IDGAF

[plucky quail]

But I guess soon they gonna need to change both names to something different. 10090xt gonna sound crazy

Or 10950x

[tawny thicket]

RADEON RX AI MAX EXTREME

[plucky quail]

Nah the GRE

GREAT RADEON EDITION 100 AI

[tawny thicket]

RADEON RX AI MAX EXTREME 7890 XTX

[tawny thicket]

for UDNA : )

[plucky quail]

GREAT RADEON EDITION 100XTX Pro AI Lisa

[vestal tusk]

7901XTX..

[plucky quail]

Or some HD 100XTX

[vestal tusk]

7900ti..

[plucky quail]

RXN= Radeon extreme neural network

[tawny thicket]

RXNN you mean

[plucky quail]

Nah look up what RTX or GTX mean you don’t need always put all words in

[tawny thicket]

IDGAF JUST MAKE IT AS AWFULL AS POSSIBLE

[plucky quail]

Ey let me work at AMD and I am gonna make good marketing

[tawny thicket]

[hollow kettle]

Okay 9070 gets eaten alive by cyberpunk 😂

Disappointing Ray Traci not worth running. Fsr looks so bad in this game since it is only 2.1 & 3. Xess ultra quality is playable I guess but still looks bad. No upscaling looks even worse. Native AA fsr 3 with RT gets like 30 fps. Max settings pure raster at native 1440p gets about 70 fps

[tawny thicket]

by RT you mean PT ?

[hollow kettle]

Sadly no. Just RT ultra

[tawny thicket]

also just download optiscaler for that one

[hollow kettle]

Oh yeah I forgot about that!

[tawny thicket]

so you can use FSR 4

[tawny thicket]

wwwaaaat

[hollow kettle]

cdozdil optiscaler on GitHub?

[tawny thicket]

i thought it was more gooder than that

[tawny thicket]

yes, and the latest nightly build

[hollow kettle]

Every other game has ran so good even Indiana jones run better than cyberpunk. Stupid nvidia sponser games 😂

[tawny thicket]

did you know that indie is also sponsored by NVIDIA ?

[hollow kettle]

I’m going to try to find your link you sent before just to be sure I install the correct one

[hollow kettle]

Yes that’s why I was surprised it ran better

[tawny thicket]

indiana is really well optimized

[hollow kettle]

Tbf I haven’t tried to undervolt or adjust this gpu at all so it could be better I imagine

[tawny thicket]

with FSR Q at 1440p its meant to get 57 fps W ultra RT (according to HUB)

[tawny thicket]

yeah, i've heard the 9070 has some pretty *good OC headroom

[tawny thicket]

you gotta get this one
https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler/releases/tag/nightly

[hollow kettle]

yes thank you i just found your old link xD

[hollow kettle]

wait do i just download OptiScaler or do i need the source code files also?

[tawny thicket]

do not download the scource files
they wont serve any purpase for you

all you need is the OptiScaler_v07.7-pre7_20250315.7z file

[hollow kettle]

i download it but now is there certain order i need to open the files in the folder? Sorry im a noob with this stuff

[tawny thicket]

then you need to unzip it and extract it where the EXE of the game you want to use it on is

[hollow kettle]

do i have to copy it and manually add to every game i want fsr4 in?

[tawny thicket]

in cyberpunks case its : Cyberpunks main folder - bin - x64

[tawny thicket]

yes
but the .bat included makes the setup really quick and easy

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/OemqQXo
im looking at this folder idk what to do with what 😅

i dont really understand extract and unzip files. I always mess that stuff up

[tawny thicket]

oh, i see
all you need to do is copy all of those files into where X games main EXE is

[tawny thicket]

you just drag and drop them

[hollow kettle]

i can ignore the 3 folders at the top labeled d3d12, dlss & licenses?

[tawny thicket]

no.
those are required for you to be able to use DLSS inputs
and DLSS inputs are usually the best

[hollow kettle]

so i can still drag and drop the entire folders in along with the files?

idek how to find exe folder for games bro this stuff makes my head hurt 🤣

[tawny thicket]

everything inside that folder you shoved can just be dragged and dropped in

[tawny thicket]

most games just have a "bin" folder and thats where they store the EXE

for 2077 its : Cyberpunk 2077\bin\x64

[hollow kettle]

and i just copy all these files/folders into x64 folder?

[tawny thicket]

yes

(and the files in folders should stay in said folders )

[hollow kettle]

it pop up message asking if i want to replace files in x64

[tawny thicket]

yes, you want to do that

then you just need to run the optiscaler Setup.bat file

[hollow kettle]

okay got it for cyberpunk. would this work for helldivers also? And kcd2? and stalker ofc

[hollow kettle]

i run it within x64 folder right?

[tawny thicket]

HD 2 only has FSR 1 and FSR 1 doesnt receive any motion vectors / inputs thus you cant use it in that one
but KCD 2 will work

[tawny thicket]

yes

[hollow kettle]

the BAT file is Windows Batch File that say OptiScaler setup?

[tawny thicket]

yes

[hollow kettle]

i try to run it and windows pop up saying "we protected your device" and only option i could click was "dont run"

[tawny thicket]

you are gonna want to click on "view > show > file name extensions " in file explorer

[tawny thicket]

false positive is the only thing i can think of for that

possibly the DLSS overrides ticked MS defender off
i use Kaspersky and it never said that

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/AUMgYw1
i got it to run now it show this lol

[tawny thicket]

yes, it should do that
type in "1" then hit enter

[hollow kettle]

will you try to use dlss inputs?
idk if i answer yes or no to this

[tawny thicket]

then it will ask you what GPU brand you have and there you wanna also ckick 1 (if they didnt change it recently)

[tawny thicket]

yes you probably want those

[hollow kettle]

okay it say complete. How will i know if it is working in game now?

Oh I can choose dlss now so I assume it is fsr 4

[tawny thicket]

you want to click the ins button on your keyboard and it should have a pop up if it works

[hollow kettle]

Yes it did pop up

[tawny thicket]

it might not be the insert button on your keyboard will bring up the optiscaler menu and there you want to select FSR 3.X and then it will let you pick between FSR 2.3, FSR 3.1 and FSR 4.0

[tawny thicket]

I scanned it with Kaspersky
https://imgur.com/a/cpeTlPm
"no threats detected"

[hollow kettle]

It brought up menu and it has three boxes checked use fsr2 inputs, use fsr3 inputs & use fxf inputs. But doesn’t have any options for choosing between fsr models

[tawny thicket]

oh, and if you want to use DLSS inputs
you do not want to select the transformer model
cuz that will make you crash

[tawny thicket]

have you selected DLSS/XeSS/FSR 3.0 in the settings ?

[hollow kettle]

Dlss

[tawny thicket]

can you send a screenshot ?

of the optiscaler menu

[hollow kettle]

It won’t let me screenshot what the heck

[hollow kettle]

https://imgur.com/xnsxDzQ

[tawny thicket]

here is what i have it set to
https://imgur.com/a/qqstMuU

[hollow kettle]

How do you get all those settings to pull up with OptiScaler?? Did you see my image?

Oh wait I ran benchmark now it brings up all the settings

[tawny thicket]

yes, i did see your image
i think you just have to select DLSS on the DLAA preset

and optiscaler doesnt hook FSR 2.1 inputs in this game