pc-specs

[tawny thicket]

ahh
abusing return policies, i see 🤔

[polar mountain]

it was def bugs

[polar mountain]

no, i mentioned "if price is decent ill return and buy that"

[tawny thicket]

have you ever thought to : blame activision ?

[coarse linden]

Will be 900€+ in EU for sure

[polar mountain]

no, cause i built a 9800x3d 7900xt for my friend and he was getting 250+

on medium-high

[tawny thicket]

it is.

[polar mountain]

whatever lol

[tawny thicket]

hearing the fact you bought the 5070 TIE for 1200
was weird

i heard that an thought : you might as well burn your money

[polar mountain]

well 4080 used was 1-1.1k, 4070tisuper 850-900 used, xtx 800-900 used

[coarse linden]

Sad thing is 1200 will be around where those cards end up after MSRP promo ends

[polar mountain]

in romania, prices never go down for nv gpus, only amd

[serene meteor]

9800X3D + 4080 Super here up up Stalker 2 runs very good.

[tawny thicket]

my take away from that is : dont buy nevedea

[tawny thicket]

as it should

[serene meteor]

i am from Ro too. i was luck to get a 4080Super at MSRP price.

[polar mountain]

nah cuz id want the extra 30% from dlss quality, i dont care about fg honestly

[tawny thicket]

thats weird though
very weird
driver just doesnt like you i guess

[vestal tusk]

its only worth the buy if you're paying sticker or less

[polar mountain]

fun fact this is my 2nd nvidia gpu, had 5-6 amds before

[vestal tusk]

i dont support buying anything if its inflated

[polar mountain]

actually 3rd nv gpu but 2nd bought with my own money

[tawny thicket]

XTX for less that super TIE ? nah,i'd pass

[serene meteor]

Do not forget to use DLSS 4 for Stalker 2, makes the game look sharp and clean vs older DLSS 3

[vestal tusk]

like modern games being 90 dollars before tax now in my country thats overpriced and gonna wait on sale lol

[tawny thicket]

get a pirate ship

[polar mountain]

i did update the dlss on all games

[vestal tusk]

[polar mountain]

dlss swapper + nvprofileinspector + 4x mfg in all games

[plucky quail]

Yea there was some error. Maybe user??

[vestal tusk]

how does playing at 4x mfg feel like? feels like the input lag would be horrific

[coarse linden]

Input lag being absolutely abysmal with framegen tbh

[polar mountain]

reflex 2 isnt out yet, that one halves the input latency compared to reflex 1

[serene meteor]

@polar mountain you have RTX 50 series card for MFG ?

[polar mountain]

5070 ti

[serene meteor]

Nice, you found one in stocks ?

[polar mountain]

yeah the gaming trio oc from pcgarage

[serene meteor]

Interesting... because this Nvidia RTX 50 series was a paper launch.

[vestal tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDlcgILBAXQ 💀 5090 aint doing so hot either lol

[coarse linden]

5070ti had more stock

[polar mountain]

nah i camped the site at 3:59pm constantly refreshing the page and found them all

[vestal tusk]

watching this gen reviews and benchmarks are wild

[serene meteor]

I look now on PCGarage nothing in stocks

[polar mountain]

even had time to think between asus prime and gaming trio oc and decided it was worth spending an extra 60 euros for the msi model

[coarse linden]

Here there are plenty of those overpriced ones still in stock that nobody wants to buy lol

[vestal tusk]

this imo is the best time for intel and AMD to shine since nvidia doesnt care about gamers now when AI is their bread and butter

[serene meteor]

But i have 4080 Super, no need to RTX 50 upgrade i will skip it.

[coarse linden]

Some 5070ti's are affected too

[plucky quail]

This launch feels like intels 14-13th gen

[coarse linden]

In Nvidias words "0.5%"

Of 5090 and 5070ti are affected by the defect

[vestal tusk]

man that was BAD haha so glad i held off and got a cheaper 12th gen

[polar mountain]

well 5070ti is 25% faster than 4070ti

5070ti is unironically the least worst out of all 50 series launch besides the pricing

[vestal tusk]

raw power? or ai assists?

[polar mountain]

raw power lol

[coarse linden]

Will probably pull ahead more once those neural shenanigans start to pop up tbh

[polar mountain]

going by fake performance would be 5070 same performance as 4090 and 5070ti 40% faster than 4090 lol

[vestal tusk]

thats still not all that impressive to me when most of the games i play i hit vsync limit of 165 fps tbh

[serene meteor]

I heard only bad thinks about RTX 50 series. Like 5090's melting cables even worst than 4090, nissing ROPs, low raw performance vs RTX 40 series... i am like... oke... this series never existed to me, when RTX 60 series ? 🙂

[polar mountain]

gonna try 4x mfg rn in stalker, btw dlss quality looks better than dlaa, less ghosting, happens in cyberpunk too

[plucky quail]

It’s 13% faster than the ti super that replaced the ti

[coarse linden]

Pricing will be even more moronic. Also go back to Scum you absolute pleb

[hollow kettle]

Only 50 series can use dlss 4 in stalker?

[polar mountain]

thats still not the launch model, it should be compared to 4070 ti, were going to get 5070 super and ti super later next year

[vestal tusk]

dlss 4 will be with 40xx

[serene meteor]

i took a brake from that place 😄

[polar mountain]

compare 5070 ti super to 4070 ti super, not 5070 ti to 4070 ti super

[vestal tusk]

the only thing 40xx isnt getting is MFG

[hollow kettle]

Yeah I can run dlss 4 in cyberpunk but nothing else works I think

[plucky quail]

The ti got replaced less then a year

[polar mountain]

also 50 series selling point for me was neural rendering in the next games, maybe they implement that

[serene meteor]

No, i can use it too with 4080 Super, but only Multi Frame Generator works with RTX 50 series, that's it.

[polar mountain]

thats how it happend with 2070 and 2070 super? same as 4070 and 4070 super

[coarse linden]

They should have come up with better naming scheme for DLSS

[serene meteor]

And i am sure is working just fine with 40 series too but Nvidia did not want to lose money :)))

[polar mountain]

it is nvidia tactic anyway

[hollow kettle]

It isn’t working for me if I set in Nvidia app it’s still same old dlss. Cyberpunk is night & day difference. Stalker says unsupported still

[vestal tusk]

they dont even really benchmark my gpu anymore lol (og 4070ti)

[polar mountain]

use dlss swapper and nvidia profile inspector

[plucky quail]

Yea can’t call me lucky

[coarse linden]

Someone should probably report that Stalker aint working on nvidia app to devs

[hollow kettle]

Caused black screen when tried that

[polar mountain]

it is working for me, maybe because of 50 series

trying to get rtx hdr running

[coarse linden]

Great so its nvidia scuffing it. Well it will get fixed in about 3 years

[polar mountain]

not amd lol

[serene meteor]

wait what, is not working from Nvidia App to upgrade to DLSS 4 ? Never test it, and i wanted to replay Stalker 2 now after the big update. What a shame, but i bet is working with DLSS Swapper just fine.

[coarse linden]

Nvidia been taking lessons from AMD on some driver fixes lol

[coarse linden]

Yeah wont let you swap it from app

[hollow kettle]

Others on Reddit said they got mfg to work on 40 series using dlss swapper and profile inspector. Other say it didn’t actually work. Like fps increase but game looked & felt exact same

[serene meteor]

How ?

This is fun to see if so

But i know FPS smoother will work with RTX 40 series, the one who now only works on RTX 50 series, Nvidia said. They can also bring MFG on all RTX cards for sure, even if is lag on older 20 - 30 series.

[hollow kettle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/IvJ9IkFAOG

this what I read

[serene meteor]

Nvidia is becoming so toxic just as Intel. If AMD will hit the jackpot with GPUs like they did with CPUs, Nvidia will drop like a fly.... just saying. 😄

[hollow kettle]

Doesn’t 4090 have more AI cores or whatever than 5070, 5070ti & close to same as 5080?

[serene meteor]

I am sure people will do a mod for that. So they already working on it. Or maybe AMD will come with a MFG for FSR 4 and they do the job for us. Like they did with FG for all GPUs out there.

[coarse linden]

Id imagine it will be scuffed like DLSS fg on 30 series

[serene meteor]

https://i.ibb.co/hxzPBqv8/Screenshot-168.png

[hollow kettle]

Isnt lossless mfg ?

[serene meteor]

So they even post a pic that MFG x4 can work lol

[coarse linden]

Amount of quality loss makes me question what is the point

[polar mountain]

ok so pripyat, 200fps with rtx hdr, dlss quality, 4x mfg, max settings, only 35-40ms latency, 1440p

[serene meteor]

I seen is not perfect after FG 2x... for 3x or 4x the quality is meh...

[hollow kettle]

I’ve never used it but I heard it has more than just 2x FG

[polar mountain]

gpu drawing only 220w in pripyat 💀

[hollow kettle]

The more I think about it the more I wonder what it the point of having that high of frames? Unless you have 240hz monitor or something

[coarse linden]

Is that suppose to be bad thing?

[serene meteor]

That is good, my GPU can hit 300W

[hollow kettle]

I heard 5070ti can be OC like crazy

[uneven portal]

Whenever I use FG, I always see artifacts at the bottom of the screen while running brhu

[serene meteor]

Yeah but you do not get much performance, this OC bring you a bit more frames in reality not much...

[tawny thicket]

FSR FG ?

[uneven portal]

na nvidia

[hollow kettle]

I really only ever see noticeable artifacts with dlss FG if my base fps is below 60

I don’t even use FG if I can’t get 60 fps

50 bare minimum but that’s pushing it

[tawny thicket]

intel is a lost cause
they are busy making a GPU with the die size of the 4070
that performs like a 4060 TIE

[serene meteor]

Well FG is made to work well only if you have over 60 - 70 base frames already

[polar mountain]

no, my 7900xt was drawing 400w with 690w spikes getting 65-70fps on epic preset native

[uneven portal]

Well, that used to happen to me. The game would drop to 50 FPS in some areas at 1080p, and artifacts would appear. (4080)

[tawny thicket]

i know its their second gen but
BRUH

[coarse linden]

But the input lag is abysmal still.. Its like playing with vsync ew

[polar mountain]

was paying 450-500 euros on electricity just to run my 7900xt

[polar mountain]

nah it actually feels good, at 95fps base with dlss quality

[hollow kettle]

I really never notice the input delay either as long as reflex is enabled

[tawny thicket]

i dont think that the XT consumes that much stock
https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[polar mountain]

remember, still reflex 1, not reflex 2 which is supposed to launch later

[coarse linden]

Ill be the judge of that.... When ever retailer gets my 5070ti here

[polar mountain]

im on a 360hz oled

[serene meteor]

only if you use 3x or 4x MFG the lag can hit even 100ms, people tray it on CP2077 forom 30 base frames Path tracing. If you have over 60 - 70 base frame the lag is fine.

[coarse linden]

So we can continue this convo in about month lol

[polar mountain]

not stock, +15% PL sapphire nitro

[tawny thicket]

how much did you buy it for ?

[coarse linden]

930€ so MSRP

[tawny thicket]

lucky guy

[coarse linden]

EU gets shafted with VAT

[uneven portal]

Here in Spain, I don’t think it will go below 1,300 euros.

[serene meteor]

EU has become a shat show....

IDK for how much thie EU will last this way...

[coarse linden]

There is absolutely no way i would pay 1k+ for 5070ti

[uneven portal]

Anyway, these GPUs cost way too much for how little they deliver.

[coarse linden]

We got rid of the cryptobros only for them to be replaced with AI bros

[hollow kettle]

Not even exaggerating I looked on Amazon last night in usd and there isn’t a single nvidia card from 3080 - 4090 that is less than $900. Even 4060ti. Only 4060 is $3-400 at cheapest

[serene meteor]

RTX 50 series is what RTX 20 serie was vs GTX 1000 series, only new tech les raw performance...

[coarse linden]

Nvidia is betting heavily on neural shaders

[serene meteor]

Nobody cares really.... is all about AI AI AI.....

[hollow kettle]

$2000 for 4070ti super

[uneven portal]

Honestly, it’s funny to me that the 5080 performs like a 4080 Ti and is selling for 1,000 euros more where I live. It seems stupid—because it is.

[coarse linden]

So there is technically some possibility that 50 series will pull more ahead when those shenanigans start to appear

[vestal tusk]

i cant even find my GPU online for price checking anymore lol

MSI Ventus GeForce 3x RTX 4070 Ti 12GB

[coarse linden]

Aibro bought my 3080 for 600€ lol

[tawny thicket]

if the XTX costs less then blame NV tax

[serene meteor]

@uneven portal yeah i seen it raw performance without fake frames, the RTX 50 series is very little in terms of performance vs RTX 40 series and the prices.... FML....

[uneven portal]

I’m kind of happy about it, though. This generation is so bad that I don’t feel the need to upgrade my GPU. It’s like I get two more years of peace of mind.

[tawny thicket]

thats why i either call it
lackwell or
ADA refresh

[hollow kettle]

xtx used is $1200

[uneven portal]

The classic move: increase power consumption to boost performance.

[tawny thicket]

new ?
also was the 4070 super TIE you said was 2000 used or new ?

[hollow kettle]

Can’t even find new xtx

[serene meteor]

I even forgot for what i sold it more than a year ago 😄

[vestal tusk]

i found it 1,333.59 USD

it went up alot

[hollow kettle]

New 4070ti super was close to 2k. More like $1800 maybe find one $1500

[uneven portal]

And look, the cheapest 5090 is 2700 euros—pretty good for a power bill generator! (Plus, it burns out to give you warmth on cold nights!)

[serene meteor]

scalpers

[coarse linden]

Its amazon is there any other kind?

[vestal tusk]

naw this on newegg i should check amazon

[flat brook]

Euro’s, not even USD

[hollow kettle]

Oh wait I just found a bunch of user sellers on Amazon selling used 4070ti super for $1100-1300. User seller new is around $1400-1500

[uneven portal]

Jokes aside, when does GSC plan to optimize STALKER 2? It's not something that can be done instantly, but there’s a lot in the game that’s unnecessary. Small objects with exaggerated polygons and unnecessarily large textures, the lack of LODs, and the overuse of Nanite. Even Lumen still doesn’t fully take advantage of Nvidia’s GPUs. They should at least release the map of future updates they promised so much about

[ionic copper]

how do i make stalker 2 not being laggy with a 1050 graphics card without buildings and weapons becoming actuall pixels

[serene meteor]

Is crazy man... all this is happening because instead o having peace on this small pice of rock we call planet earth, we have wars, who reflects in product prices.

[coarse linden]

If they ever bother to update engine where those half arsed features are fixed

If not... Abandon all hope

[uneven portal]

No matter how much they update the graphics engine, it doesn't fix the lack of effort in the overall development. These issues aren't something that can be fixed fast at the end; they should've been addressed from the start.

[hollow kettle]

I been noticed blocky shadows and textures a lot inside buildings and foliage looks horrendous the more I progress the game

[vestal tusk]

idk if thats possible tbh

[serene meteor]

And the things for hardware prices will become even worst thx to Trump war taxes vs the rest of the world.

[polar mountain]

anyone tried ray reconstruction mod?

[coarse linden]

Does help when feature they are leveraging is somewhat more complete

[uneven portal]

Half of the improvements related to Lumen just end up being artifact generators and visual issues. There’s no magic fix for everything. They’ll have to do what all studios do—manual and hard work. Others create their own engines or at least edit the one they have to meet their needs.

[coarse linden]

We dont do politics here. Gets you free ticket to banana islands lot faster then scum discord here

[uneven portal]

yea pls

[plucky quail]

Wonder if the same people that said 4080 is better than XTX cuz of the 30w more power consumption still gonna stay on that and say XTX is better than 5080 cuz of power

[serene meteor]

thx for telling me

[coarse linden]

And 5.3 did have that magical stuff that made those features actually somewhat useable

And still not really downplaying efforts developer needs to put in

[hollow kettle]

Isn’t 4080 a lot better than xtx?

[plucky quail]

No it’s other way around

[coarse linden]

Eats rocks with RT tho

[tawny thicket]

in raster they are equal
in RT the 4080 beats the XTX
and it beats the crap out of it with PT enabled

[plucky quail]

Don’t got good looking rt games except metro

[hollow kettle]

Is technical city website not reliable or something ? It says 4080 11% better than xtx

[polar mountain]

techpowerup

[plucky quail]

And that I can run it real good

[vestal tusk]

2077

[polar mountain]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xtx.c3941 this is reference xtx, a normal xtx would be at least 5% faster than it

[coarse linden]

Dying light 2 looks amazing with RT compared to raster

[uneven portal]

2077 is shit

[vestal tusk]

goofy take

[polar mountain]

lol thats what im trying rn

[uneven portal]

i mean the rtx is just artifacts simulator

[vestal tusk]

ah

mb

[plucky quail]

Yea but we got only few games that look good with rt.

[coarse linden]

Ray sample size is just abysmal. Too much "glowbug" effect at dark spots

[vestal tusk]

ngl i miss older styles of lighting over RT

[uneven portal]

MegaLights and many of these supposed solutions have been found to not be so great, unless your game characters don’t look at shadows or the camera doesn’t move quickly. Lumen just isn’t feasible today, at least not for the graphical quality it delivers.

[opaque moat]

no...because they dont only count in gaming... they talkin workstation also.

[polar mountain]

120fps dlss balanced 4k full rt

[uneven portal]

60 fps 4080 at max 80 on open space

[plucky quail]

Tech power up does there research bit wrong.
The gpu they got was a oc version that’s why tpu test is higher than other reviewers

[opaque moat]

thats without the dlss fg ?

[polar mountain]

oh wait with frame gen, didnt even feel it apart from a bit of motion blur

[uneven portal]

yea

[plucky quail]

We only got handful of games that we can run and look good all other are just garbage

[opaque moat]

lol nop ---> yea 😂

[uneven portal]

XD

[opaque moat]

if it was a nop...was about to say wtf LOL get 120 in rostok with them on hahaha

[plucky quail]

They are not equal in raster

[opaque moat]

nvidia not even trying for raster since the birth of their dlss.

[uneven portal]

yea...

and fg is just fake, is not ai raster

[hollow kettle]

If you just scroll down they have gaming performance comparison with frame rate for every resolution and popular games. Along with other stuff. They also have general comparison yeah but I don’t even look at that

Has xtx winning in 1080p & 1440p but 4080 winning in 4k

[uneven portal]

in what game

[opaque moat]

yes... "gaming" but nvidia is not a (only gaming) card

[hollow kettle]

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-4080-vs-Radeon-RX-7900-XTX

here just scroll to bottom they have dozens of comparisons in games & resolution

[uneven portal]

nice

[hollow kettle]

I’m confused how they have final result of 4080 being better when all the comparison show xtx winning or equal. Except 4k resolution

[uneven portal]

In my case, it shines in video editing, recording, live streaming, and everything else.

[opaque moat]

amd is a better gaming card, nvidia is a better " all around" card

[uneven portal]

yea

[hollow kettle]

Well idk I’m one of the weirdos that likes Ray tracing & path tracing so I don’t think amd is way to go

Rather be able to use that stuff than only be able to
Max raster

[uneven portal]

the problem in the current industry isn’t so much the GPUs, but how studios use the resources they have, often abusing them.

RTX looks good and performs well if used correctly, like in Metro Enhanced. Otherwise, you end up with what we have today: a lot of RTX, but little improvement in quality-to-performance ratio.

[hollow kettle]

Yeah good example is kcd2. I just installed it last night and my 4060 runs it great at high/ultra (mostly high) ~70fps. Dlss quality around 100 fps

[plucky quail]

What side is this😭 something was trying to sell something to me

[hollow kettle]

But stalker I have to drop to medium in some settings and still barely get 60fps in areas

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/PhtVic3Vm0Y?si=WL0Y9wyUB0Sl6QaL

[hollow kettle]

I have ad blocker idk

[plucky quail]

Here is some real review

[hollow kettle]

I swear if it is hardware unboxed video

[plucky quail]

Nuh uh

[hollow kettle]

I dont like YouTube anymore unless it is shorts

[plucky quail]

Yea but still you need it for reviews

[opaque moat]

brave browser on youtube never has ads

[hollow kettle]

For some reason YouTube in opera browser literally never shows skip button. So I’m stuck watching stupid ad for the full thing. Not doing that 🤣

But everything else it doesn’t show ads bc of blocker YouTube doesn’t like blocker

[plucky quail]

Yea you need to add a addbocker cuz the one from opera is shit

[opaque moat]

brave browser you dont have to do anything lol its all blocked

[late ferry]

bauderbaumeister has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[uneven portal]

jasdjajsd

[plucky quail]

See that’s a good game made from gamers for gamers

[hollow kettle]

Bros kcd2 is so freaking good

I even paid for gold edition just bc I never got first game. Wanted to make it up to devs lol

[plucky quail]

My friend glazed the game for weeks now

[hollow kettle]

I remember seeing stuff on YouTube when I was still in high school. In 2015 or so. Showcasing kcd1. I was so excited back then but never got to play it

10 years later and I finally get to play

[ornate hamlet]

the roadmap is still promised "soon",but understandably they were more focused on urgent bugfixes for now

coz up to 1.2 there still were major game breaking bugs that would stop you from progressing and frustrate players

idk if everything is fixed now or not. but def a lot was fixed so maybe they can work more on roadmap etc.

[ornate hamlet]

kcd2 is mostly raster, no? no ray-tracing

[uneven portal]

yea

[ornate hamlet]

I woud not compare. Yeah stalker 2 is unoptimized but it also looks amazing

[uneven portal]

na

[hollow kettle]

Yeah but better example even is avowed. UE5 and RT. I run it max settings 1080p and still get 60+ fps. Dlss I get 80-100

[uneven portal]

looks meh for me, i like more kcd2

[hollow kettle]

Stalker does not look that good in all honesty. Too much pop in

And the mutant models look like they are straight from first game lol

[uneven portal]

Stalker 2 looks good to me at first glance, but in reality, it’s full of graphical errors, issues with loading lighting, drastic lighting changes, and well, everything that comes with using Unreal Engine 5 on top of all that

[vestal tusk]

in a better timelines stalker 2 came out on xray 2

[uneven portal]

Or at least in an edited version of Unreal Engine 5, or another engine that could fulfill its purpose better than (realistic graphics but visually unappealing).

Everything looks nice in Stalker until it rains, you have to enter a cave, go to a less lit area, exit an interior, and so on, with a long list of similar issues. For a game that runs at an average of 70 fps at 1080p with a 4080, it's pretty meh compared to Kingdom Come: Deliverance.

[hollow kettle]

Are they able to edit the engine after the game is released to make improvements ?

[uneven portal]

CD Projekt Red - The Witcher 3

[hollow kettle]

I meant with ue5 I guess like if the engine itself gets improved would they be able to edit those in later on

[vestal tusk]

i wish we got newer versions of UE5

[coarse linden]

ARK is kinda example what happens when engine is extensively worked. It became practically impossible to update the UE 4 on it without major work

[uneven portal]

Still, the problem with Stalker 2 is there from the start, and there’s not much that can be done about certain things, unless, well, they add RTX support or decide to create a new lighting system instead of cutting corners with Lumen.

[spare coral]

Some peeps are still facing bugs if you check the steam forums
I havent had one but ill prolly restart my save once they release a big update to a life or something

My save is already broken with quests that i cant claim and stuff like that anyway lol

[hollow kettle]

I just had memory leak two nights ago. First major issue in 40 hours of playing. But I couldn’t even play the game until I verified files 3 times

[ornate hamlet]

idk, many studios are switching to ue5 now (e.g. cyberpunk 2) coz it's cheaper, also much easier for modders too which is super important for stalker

[hollow kettle]

I get to areas with psi effect crap and make me just not even want to play anymore straight up. So stupid 😂

[uneven portal]

Lumen is designed to simplify the process of dynamic lighting, eliminating the need to precalculate lightmaps or bake lighting in scenes, the same goes for Nanite, it saves them time and money and makes it easier to hire developers. They leave the game in a sufficiently acceptable state and sell it at full price

[ornate hamlet]

idk they are fun imo. the game is a survival horror, don't complain about difficulty

[spare coral]

Train your psi resistance
You have to be prepared for the zone

[vestal tusk]

you played the trilogy right ?

[uneven portal]

"The zone went from scaring me to scaring my PC, because of how badly it runs."

[hollow kettle]

When did I say anything about it being difficult ? I said it’s a stupid feature

[ornate hamlet]

I think this is the way to do it in the future anyway, saving dev time and so on is great, but yeah it needs a lot of improvement

[hollow kettle]

I have psi block anyway

[hollow kettle]

What trilogy

[spare coral]

Lumen still looks worse than a good raster sometimes lmao

[vestal tusk]

💀 stalker man

[hollow kettle]

No never heard of it until this game

[vestal tusk]

[hollow kettle]

Only reason I installed this game is bc it is free lol

[spare coral]

Oh yeah, gamepass lol

This game is the 4th in the series

[hollow kettle]

I don’t even like survival games but this game is cool. Mostly

I realllyyyy don’t like horror games at all

Survival is okay if done right but horror games are just not for me

[spare coral]

Stalker never was that much of a survival tbf but the atmosphere and everything is cool

[vestal tusk]

play the trilogy lol way better then stalker 2

[hollow kettle]

First person shooter action adventure with survival horror elements is what google says stalker 2 is

[uneven portal]

"Actually, no, because you're saving time at a cost that the developer won't pay, but the consumer will. Production costs keep rising while quality keeps dropping. At that point, one wonders if it's really a benefit for the developers, or if it's just for the investors and bosses.

I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well, but what I mean is: is this time and money saving actually being used to improve the game, or is it just being done to release it sooner? In that case, the developers would remain in the same position, and we would simply receive a worse product for the sake of profits (I'm not saying this is the case with Stalker 2, although it could be,t hey've already admitted that they released the game during the holidays for the sales, so there was pressure on them ).

[plucky quail]

That didn’t save them any time

[ornate hamlet]

Fair point, but it's not only about profits. The game was in dev for a loong time. I'd rather play it now than in 2-3 years but with better performance and less bugs

[uneven portal]

We don’t know for sure, but personally, I believe that Xbox and Nvidia have a lot to do with the Stalker 2 we have, and that repeated way of delaying dates.

[plucky quail]

They need to update and optimize the hole time. And the end result is that we all need to play with ultra high end pcs to get 60fps

[ornate hamlet]

well they didn't have to do raster maps etc. But I get your point

[uneven portal]

Let’s say they saved time in the beginning and now they're paying the price for the ghosts of the past.

[plucky quail]

Yea that’s the point

[compact reef]

I have i7 6700k stock,24 GB RAM and RTX 2060 12GB playing in 1080p high settings with DLSS 🙂 and it can handle it

[opaque moat]

why, wont make much difference, look at blackhawk down just released with 5.4 its heavy even on 4090's

was watching pestily play earlier this morning. hes getting around 110-120 fps with all the bells and whistles on

[vestal tusk]

fair counter point never looked into it i just assumed new versions of engine would be better

[opaque moat]

nah, UE5x is a whole different animal. my opinion has always been that UE5 is way ahead of the hardware performance. need another gen or 2.

bet nvidia focuses on lumen/nanite performance in the future

[hard juniper]

black hawk down runs like such dogshit it's incredible

ue5 truly is a curse

[ornate hamlet]

what resolution?

[polar mountain]

Stalker looks so bad while raining in pripyat

Even when using ray reconstruction mod with rtx hdr

[uneven portal]

na

[uneven portal]

As if Nanite's depended on NVIDIA, bruh.

People use Nanite because it's cheaper, not because it's better. There are actually better algorithms, but you have to pay for them. or (WORK)

I find it curious how in the industry we have better graphics engines, yet we still think Unreal is the future

in my opinion the best engine is and will continue to be id Tech 7.

[coarse linden]

More cynical reason that it gets easier to replace people if everyone works on same engine environment

[hard juniper]

yeah big downside is that you can't just hire people who already know how it works, pretty sure that's why cdpr decided to switch to ue5

[pure ibex]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/physx-feature-unlocked-for-rtx-5090-with-rtx-3050-helper-to-enable-full-performance

[coarse linden]

More or less only game i would care about that would be Borderlands 2 but you cant actually play it with PhysX since it will crash randomly

[uneven portal]

the art of optimization is one that not many know and few want to do. If studios are not willing to invest the time in learning it, especially when they are making more money than before, then we can expect worse games

It’s like having many chefs cooking with the same ingredients and tools, each making different dishes until they start repeating themselves because they’re all using the same basic approach.

[plucky quail]

But that’s the thing the industry hires people for some month before they get full time employees. That’s again just money saving. You don’t actually make the process faster there will be still a downtime to teach those people on what they are working on.

[coarse linden]

Future will be hilarious once Epic gains its monopoly on game engines

[plucky quail]

Also there is a downside not making your own engine.
You can make it that way you want your game to be and that results better performance

[vestal tusk]

im disappointed witcher 4 and 2077 sequels are going to be on UE5

[uneven portal]

The Witcher trailer was awful

[hard juniper]

yeah ofc, i don't think the solution is to just make every game from now on in ue5

[vestal tusk]

Id take creation engine over UE5 any day lol

i run fully maxed 4000+ modded skyrim with better preformance then stalker 2 lol

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[hard juniper]

well, starfield didn't turn out so well

[vestal tusk]

still runs better then stalker 2

lol

[uneven portal]

I can have Tarkov open 4 times on my PC and it still runs better than Stalker 2, and that crap runs on Unity

[vestal tusk]

💀

[hard juniper]

almost anything runs better than stalker 2, not a high bar

cyberpunk at launch ran better

[coarse linden]

Should have just done elder scrolls and forget weird spacey game

[uneven portal]

I don't think ARK on Unreal Engine 5 would work better.

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[hard juniper]

i was excited for space skyrim tbh, but after seeing how it turned out i think it might've been better to just do another elder scrolls yeah

[coarse linden]

I dont mind loading screens honestly. But in space skyrim there were just too many

[tawny thicket]

eh, ARK certainly looks better
and doesnt run much worse (until it does)

[tawny thicket]

"until it does" = until i run out of VRAM

[hard juniper]

loading screens are whatever but you need to go through like 10 of them to go from one quest marker to the next

[uneven portal]

are you sure it dosent run much worse?

[tawny thicket]

for me it doesnt

[uneven portal]

men

[hollow kettle]

Dlss ultra performance ?

[tawny thicket]

i dont really care about what some dude got on a 4090 TI at useless-ly high settings
(okay im exagarating but you get my point)

[uneven portal]

47 fps on epic 1080p It was running on my PC a few months ago

[hollow kettle]

Have you ever played tarkov

[plucky quail]

I wonder why we still don’t got a AI AA that works universally on any GPU like TAA

[coarse linden]

Yeah doesnt work in space game. In 1 huge world it does work well and even gives that tiny old school feeling heh

[tawny thicket]

tip : dont play epic just play at medium and it'll look the same (for the most part)

[hollow kettle]

My brother said tarkov is hard to run but I think he has 3070 ti

[uneven portal]

I mean, yes, you're partly right

[uneven portal]

it doesn't use much of the GPU or processor, my components just kind of sleep

[tawny thicket]

i have to play at low : (
still looks better than Stalker 2 (at the high preset)

[spare coral]

Isnt tarkov's optimization bad or something

[tawny thicket]

very different asthetics
but still

[uneven portal]

On paper, SPT Aki Tarkov, I could open it 4 times, and on maps like Woods it didn't run bad, it just doesn't fully utilize the components.

[hollow kettle]

Not sure I’ve never played it he mentioned certain map area being very demanding

[coarse linden]

Because upscalers and vendor specific already exist

[tawny thicket]

we do : XeAA : (

[uneven portal]

They're not really demanding, it’s just that they run on such a primitive version of Unity that my GPU's fans stay off while the game doesn’t go past 80 fps

[hollow kettle]

Would it be stupid for me to go from 4060 to 3080 ?

[tawny thicket]

no. but why would you do that ?

[uneven portal]

justo dont pls XD

[spare coral]

Get at least a 3090 if you are going for a 30 series

[hollow kettle]

Can’t afford any 40 or 50 series. Could afford 3080 lol

[uneven portal]

I want to say it's a waste of money if you ask me, do you really need it?

[tawny thicket]

not even 4070 ?

[hollow kettle]

I haven’t been able to really find 4070

[plucky quail]

Yea but that would make it easier for devs to just implement one AA and optimize for then 4 diff 5diff AAs

[tawny thicket]

nothing ?

[coarse linden]

Thats why TAA exists

[uneven portal]

Aside from unfinished and poorly optimized games, the 4060 is still capable of playing any game. I don’t see the point in spending money to replace it so quickly.

[spare coral]

TAA sucks tho

[plucky quail]

And it’s shit

[tawny thicket]

like i said : we already have non vendor specific AI AA : its called XeAA (XeSS)

[tawny thicket]

even a 3060 would be better

[coarse linden]

It absolutely does but its light and gives good results according to some idiots

[hollow kettle]

I’m not sure best place to look online for 4070. I always just check Amazon & Newegg. Nvidia site is waste of time. And I live in middle of nowhere so no stores near me

[uneven portal]

It gives good results by hiding the mess from the studios

[coarse linden]

And since upscalers became a thing nobody bothers inventing better way

[uneven portal]

😔

[tawny thicket]

#BLAME NVIDIA

[hollow kettle]

Nah 3060 not better than 4060 imo even with 12gb vram

[uneven portal]

Jokes aside, I think I’ll spend the rest of the years playing Prince of Persia, Stalker Reborn, and some old games. Nothing new that’s coming out excites me

[hollow kettle]

4060 has amazed me tbh I don’t get All the hate

[tawny thicket]

it is though
[insert hide the pain harold meme]

[uneven portal]

the complaint came because its price used to be garbage, but once it dropped, it became a good GPU.

[coarse linden]

I rather blame epic. They are the ones coming up some bs tech out of their rears nowdays and yet they run their engine sloppy TAA with abysmal defaults no developer bothers changing

[hollow kettle]

$300 for 4060 is very good deal imo

[tawny thicket]

just the VRAM
and the price too (greedy price)

[uneven portal]

For me, it was 460 at the beginning

[polar mountain]

whats the most intensive area in stalker?

[spare coral]

The price was bad for its performance and vram

[tawny thicket]

no 8GB card can cost more than 200 these days

[uneven portal]

zalisia

[plucky quail]

I think AI TAA would run on any GPU with just one SDK and look better. The same way some point we will or must have a universal upscaler.
AA had the same fate with ATI and Nvidia battling who has the best AA

[tawny thicket]

rostok ive heard....

[polar mountain]

i feel like pripyat is worse than that

[coarse linden]

NativeAA and DLAA already exist so why would anyone put money on developing that?

[uneven portal]

I think a channel talked about that possibility and how it would be the only 'easy' solution

[hollow kettle]

$300 for 4060 but for 16gb ti it is $700-900 now

Makes no sense

[uneven portal]

There are people where I live who add VRAM to your GPU if it's a 4070 Ti

[tawny thicket]

AMD cards are your only upgrade option then....

[plucky quail]

It would be open source like every other. Manythings are open source and that’s what runs our world

[hollow kettle]

My only worry is I just purchased 1440p monitor for myself as a birthday gift. Not sure how 4060 will handle it

[uneven portal]

Let’s just not use Unreal 5. Luckily, not the entire industry is CD Projekt or GSC.

[coarse linden]

Good luck with your endeavor

[tawny thicket]

FSR AA usually looks better than a regular TAA.

[spare coral]

If fsr 4 is open source it would be our biggest hope but

[hollow kettle]

I heard that it will be exclusive to new amd gpu I hope that isn’t true

[uneven portal]

With CD Projekt, it's to criticize them for years. They have a fully capable engine and jump to Unreal Engine, you can really tell that people leave these studios tired

[spare coral]

4060 is an 1080p card so not that good

[coarse linden]

When baseline is basically shitsmear anything is improvement

[tawny thicket]

DLSS P

[tawny thicket]

hold on
let me get my
"quality TAA screenshot"

[hollow kettle]

Dlss performance on 1440p would be like balanced on 1080p right?

[tawny thicket]

nope
1080p Q

[uneven portal]

asdajsldjasjfdlksaafjasfkñ

[hollow kettle]

😮

[coarse linden]

I dont want to hear it from someone that runs 27" 1080p monitor

[tawny thicket]

how would you know that HMMM
you dont.

[vestal tusk]

ayo we gatekeeping resolution now ? 💀

[uneven portal]

What’s wrong with it?

[plucky quail]

That’s not even a not gonna happen instead it’s gonna happen just when. It’s getting already worked on texture compress on dx12. It’s gonna be also for any GPU.

[hollow kettle]

I have 27” 1080p lol

[coarse linden]

Eh wild guess honestly lol

[coarse linden]

Eww... Are you by any chance blind?

[tawny thicket]

heck
i myself have no idea of what inch this thing is lol

[uneven portal]

I have a 4K 240Hz monitor and I still play in 1080p

[spare coral]

I prefer smaller like 24 or 22 for 1080p
27" with only 1080p kinda ruins the quality

[hollow kettle]

Oh wait mine is actually 24. My 4k monitor I got rid of was 27

[tawny thicket]

someone HATES 1080p 27 [insert dumb metric]monitors

[opaque moat]

1440p if i recall

[vestal tusk]

i have a 12k 850hz 60in monitor

[hollow kettle]

I have asus VG248 so that’s 24” I think

[coarse linden]

Pixel density is so bad on 27" 1080p that you might as well use TAA since nothing will improve it

[hard juniper]

27" 1080p is horrendous i start gagging the moment i look at my second monitor

[uneven portal]

Every time I see people playing in 4K, I think they must want to upgrade their graphics card all the time

[plucky quail]

How much vram do u use?

[hollow kettle]

Yeah that’s why I traded mine for 1080p monitor. I’ll never have the money to keep up with 4k

[vestal tusk]

haha just messin tbh i got 32 in 1440p 165hz monitor

[tawny thicket]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

[uneven portal]

auch

[plucky quail]

Ik was also joking

[hollow kettle]

I could never use a monitor bigger than 27”

[vestal tusk]

heres one

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-22580177

[vestal tusk]

yall use curved or flat monitors

[hollow kettle]

24” is almost too big for me. I sit 6” away from screen xD

[vestal tusk]

im curved

[hard juniper]

flat

[uneven portal]

I've played my whole life in 1080p, I have a 4K monitor and don't even use it because it was a gift. I used to have one of those super wide monitors and gave it to my little brother so he could enjoy it.

[hollow kettle]

Flat I don’t like curved at all

[hard juniper]

flat all day every day, curved is gimmicky asf

unless you have one of those super curved racing sim monitors

[tawny thicket]

#marketing buzzword

[plucky quail]

Somehow got oled video in the last days

[uneven portal]

They're awful, some models consume more than 4 separate screens.

[plucky quail]

I think it wants me

[vestal tusk]

i want one

[hollow kettle]

What is difference of led & mini-led

[hard juniper]

well if someone is building a sim rig i think that won't be of much concern

[coarse linden]

More advanced backlight

To put it simply because cant be arsed to explain in detail

[uneven portal]

it's usually more comfortable to buy 3, and there are strips that you put on the edges to hide the screen transition. It's more comfortable, customizable, consumes less, and is cheaper.

[coarse linden]

Might as well get VR headset and skip the monitors

[uneven portal]

It usually makes me dizzy a lot

[plucky quail]

Don’t forget it’s insane if u do bit of racing

[coarse linden]

Weak

[spare coral]

Yeah, some people cant get used to it

[hollow kettle]

I forgot I have quest headset and can use virtual desktop to play any screen I want. It’s like your own personal theater

[uneven portal]

It’s probably because I have some old ones, but I can see the pixels and it makes me dizzy

[hollow kettle]

I need to play no man’s sky in VR now before I go to work

[hard juniper]

fair, i was never too keep on the anti bezel kits, though i haven't tried one myself

[plucky quail]

I know back then I got the ps4 vr it was dog water but I could see the future how good it can be and immersive

[hard juniper]

vr is so much more immersive but i just can't use it for longer sessions, gives me a massive headache and eye strain

triples are simpler to use and don't hurt me

[plucky quail]

One eye had 720p so really bad

[hollow kettle]

I have to have zofran on standby when playing VR or else I feel like I’ll throw up. Especially flying star ship in no man’s sky lol

It can be very disorienting

[hard juniper]

i still have yet to try elite or nms in vr, i hear it works well

[hollow kettle]

Yeah no man’s sky is incredible. I purchased quest headset just to play that game in VR

Gives you entire new perspective on the world in game

[coarse linden]

I would rather burn my pc then have facebook hardware touch it

[vestal tusk]

whats wrong with fb tech lol

[hard juniper]

tbh same after how meta did me when i needed to get access to my account

[coarse linden]

It being fb tech lol

[plucky quail]

Scan your brain

[vestal tusk]

i dont use vr as its mostly a meme so out of the loop

[pure ibex]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-9070-XT-nearly-matches-RX-7900-XTX-in-cheeky-FurMark-4K-benchmark-35-improvement-over-RX-7900-XT.965492.0.html

A saw a potential rumor that got me excited

These cards supposedly have giant oc head room

7970ghz edition mk2

[coarse linden]

And then we come back to reality and it doesnt OC anywhere

[tawny thicket]

DA FAJCS

intel UHD graphics 7151 (118fps)
7900 XT : 6663 (111fps)

[paper tendon]

Can someone help me make my game not lag, it was running fine on high then it just randomly when bad and when we I change my graphics it will not lag for like 3 minutes then get laggy again

[hollow kettle]

What are your specs

[coarse linden]

Someones running out of memory

[paper tendon]

Well I was playing for like 6 hours just fine at first, but u got a 1660 oc super, 32 gb ddr4 ram and an ryzen 5 5500

[pure ibex]

Uh oh

I think it’s over for me

My 3090 seems to have given up the ghost

[spare coral]

Didnt survive the zone

[pure ibex]

Constantly black screening in stalker 2

Requiring hard reset

[tawny thicket]

eh

[hollow kettle]

That’s what it was doing to me from memory leak

[pure ibex]

Nah bruh

I can’t even get to title screen anymore

[tawny thicket]

my guess is that its VRAM related

[pure ibex]

[spare coral]

I dont think memory leaks can give you blackscreen tbh

[pure ibex]

Maybe I’ll get a different game

:/

[paper tendon]

Whatever settings I do it just does the same thing and it was running fine before, sometimes it would happen but I’d just save and quit then load back and I’d be fine

[pure ibex]

Now can’t even get to desktop

[spare coral]

Its prolly memory leaking really badly for you

[pure ibex]

It’s officially over

[tawny thicket]

thats why i said that : (

[spare coral]

Rip

[paper tendon]

Is there a way I can fix it

[hollow kettle]

It did to me as I open game black screen after clicking anything in menu. Couple times it let me click load game but then froze and turned black immediately after. Couldn’t get into game at all

Then I verify files and it has worked since even better than before

[spare coral]

Nope, if lowering the settings doesnt help you then you have to wait for an update of the game or something

[hollow kettle]

Task manager showed Instant 99% memory usage just launching the game and stayed 99% until exiting

[paper tendon]

Alright

[tawny thicket]

other than doing what dario said : buy a new GPU : (

[paper tendon]

I just spent like 600 on this build☹️

[tawny thicket]

R.I.P.

[hollow kettle]

Might as well Verify & repair game files just to see what happens

[spare coral]

^

But 6gb of vram is really pushing the limit for this game
Even 8gb isnt enough for some people

[hard juniper]

8gb is starting to feel like the limit in general

games are asking for so much even at lower res

[spare coral]

12gb is the new minimun

[hollow kettle]

Yeah definitely can’t run high textures. Maybe not even medium

[hard juniper]

i mean even kcd2 is using up 14gb out of my 16gb, just wondering how bad it might get in the future

[hollow kettle]

High settings for me (with few epic/medium) gets me 6.5GB vram usage on average at 1080p

[spare coral]

High settings for me is 8.4gbs of vram on 1080p lol

[hollow kettle]

I’m using 7gb vram in kcd2 right now

[tawny thicket]

am i gonna paste my entire document of VRAM usage numbers ?

[hollow kettle]

I’m just telling you what I get in game with my settings

And that’s with frame Gen

[tawny thicket]

i cant belive

PATCH 1.1 VRAM:

HIGH preset 1080p FSR Q FG:OFF

first settlement
dGPU:7500MB /process 6300 MB
swaps into RAM?:YES
how much?:900MB
does performance tank?:not immediately

wilderness
dGPU:6600 MB /process 5300 MB
swaps into RAM?:NO

though i guess its realistic for wilderness

just not for DL-FG

[hollow kettle]

In settlements I have never gotten close to 8gb vram usage. Barely even 7gb

But like I said I have some settings medium some epic mostly high. Textures high

[tawny thicket]

you are using some dark magic

MEDIUM preset TAA native FG:OFF

first settlement
dGPU:7600MB /process 6600 MB
swaps into RAM?:YES
how much?:300MB
does performance tank?:not imideatly

wilderness
overall:6700 MB /process 5600 MB
swaps into RAM?:NO

[hollow kettle]

I’m also using dlss quality

Basically that is the dark magic

[tawny thicket]

it wont reduce VRAM cons by 600MB +

[hollow kettle]

It lower usage 500MB easy

[tawny thicket]

MEDIUM preset 1080p FSR Q FG:OFF

first settlement
dGPU:7100MB /process 6100 MB
swaps into RAM?:NO

wilderness
overall:6100 MB /process 5100 MB
swaps into RAM?:NO

[spare coral]

Fg also uses more vram so its kinda impressive

[hollow kettle]

I will load in right now and show

[tawny thicket]

Fg also uses more vram so its kinda impressive impossible : (

[hollow kettle]

How can I send pictures

[tawny thicket]

you dont.

[flat brook]

Upload to Imgur.com then paste the link here

[hollow kettle]

What the heck is imgur nvm I’m look

[flat brook]

Image hosting site

[tawny thicket]

a site where you can upload pictures

[hollow kettle]

The only time I see my cpu get to 90%+ usage is compiling shaders for stalker

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/vzWrUR6

You’ll get something like this once it’s uploaded and link pasted

[hollow kettle]

Account required for uploading?

[flat brook]

Nope

[hollow kettle]

I just noticed afterburner OSD sometimes show D3D12 other times show VULKAN

For my frametime graph

[plucky quail]

You need to play longer

[hollow kettle]

But the numbers he sent are from first settlement so I assume zalyssia

I have been playing a lot last few days but I’m in Cordon right now

[pure ibex]

I found the problem

It appears 2 of my cable mod cables are defected

They melted inside the psu ports

Grabbed some oem ones and let’s see if this fairs better

[spare coral]

Hopium

[pure ibex]

Looks to have fixed it

Epic

It melted on the psu end

Not the gpu end

That’s likely what saved me

[hollow kettle]

i know this is just in the old access tunnel in cordon but you can see just under 5gb vram usage. task manager showed 4.8gb also. I can send images of my settings too

[ornate hamlet]

1080p at 24", 1440p at 27", 4k at 32" is kinda the standard

I have 4k at 27" but that's mostly for work / productivity (text clarity on macos). I haven't compared it to 1440p at 27"

[hollow kettle]

Wait did that even have my image in the link?

https://imgur.com/AEQGXsU

https://imgur.com/jo1olWd
https://imgur.com/pMSS0lH
https://imgur.com/PXu0GOR
all my settings

[plucky quail]

What burned?

[pure ibex]

the psu end

[plucky quail]

And gpu?

[pure ibex]

i was using cable mod cables so

gpu is working fine

i just grabbed some of the oem cables

[plucky quail]

What gpu you have 5090?

[hollow kettle]

3090

[pure ibex]

8 pins don’t melt

[hollow kettle]

How much did you pay for 3090 when you got it?

[pure ibex]

2k

i bought it brand new in 2020

[hollow kettle]

There is 3090 FTW3 on Amazon for $1200 right now and another ROG strix for $1400 didn’t know if that is alright price or not

Zotac 3090 trinity is 2k

[pure ibex]

the card is only worth 800 bux

paying more than that is a giant scam

[hollow kettle]

I don’t understand what happen to gpu market

[pure ibex]

50 series dropped

and no one can buy it

makes all other gpu prices sky rocket to compensate

[flat brook]

Same thing that always happens

New series > shortage > demand for old series > shortage > price hikes

[hollow kettle]

Dude I am so mad. Some mutant took my cracker out
Of my hand using the force and threw it somewhere
After shooting me and now it is gone. Can’t find it

[polar mountain]

Less

I know someone that paid 5k for a 3090 in covid, sold it last year for 600

[pure ibex]

real

[hard juniper]

buddy fell for the covid tax

[vestal tusk]

They learned a good life lesson lol

[polar mountain]

now they got a 5090 gaming trio oc for 3k now thats reasonable imo

[hard juniper]

sells in 4 years for 300

i don't get people who constantly buy flagship cards when they're massively overpriced

but maybe i'm just not wealthy enough

[vestal tusk]

Even if I was wealthy it would be a waste of money

It would different perhaps if I was using these gpus for work and rendering purposes but for soley gaming ? Naw that's kinda goofy haha

I already hit my fps cap of 165 with most games I play and I don't even have a 4090 so I can't imagine the point if I had a 4090 to 5090

[plucky quail]

You are just not stupid enough

[late ferry]

rubenssot has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[tawny thicket]

VRAM usage = photoshopped

🤷‍♂️

[hollow kettle]

What lol

I dont even know how to photoshop

[tawny thicket]

EvErYtHiNg

[pure ibex]

I want the 9070 xt to be good so bad

The leaks say it’s gonna be an oc monster

I want this to be true so badly

[plucky quail]

They asked HuB for price advice and hub said 500$ is a good price

[tawny thicket]

how do you know that that 3 ish GHz isnt the normal clock ?

[tawny thicket]

(the non manual OC)

[vestal tusk]

I pray it is man I want it to be my next card

[tawny thicket]

i also want either the XT or non XT to be my next card

so i can stop having to cope about 8GB VRAM

🙏

[pure ibex]

it is

the sky is the limit

[tawny thicket]

imagine getting one to 4Ghz

[tawny thicket]

so here is what MLID thinks the RDNA 4 cards will perform like
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871737/1342970930153918464/image.png?ex=67bb92a4&is=67ba4124&hm=ba805aa6ec3e4560c07dc7e95b1d40dc59e0627ea381273e56a327f13ece094f&

[plucky quail]

Question is what does he claim

[plucky quail]

.

[tawny thicket]

You just answered your own question

[plucky quail]

?

[hollow kettle]

What level do you get veteran role? 20?

[tawny thicket]

25* IIRC

[hollow kettle]

Ah dang that’s long way from me I think I’m lvl 16 or 18

Ah 1:17am I got to level 16

9 more to go

[tawny thicket]

If i remember 25 correctly....

[flat brook]

I don’t even know what level I am, Wolf is my only blocked contact on the list

[vestal tusk]

Lv 28 rank 288

[tawny thicket]

Lol

[flat brook]

Done too much yapping it seems

[vestal tusk]

Oh man then there's me lol

[polar mountain]

did some testing
Path tracing 7800x3d 5070ti 1440p

• DLAA
  off: 36fps 63ms
  2x: 62fps 68ms
  3x: 98fps 72ms
  4x: 116fps 74ms
• DLSS Quality
  off: 61fps 38ms
  2x: 108fps 45ms
  3x: 152fps 48ms
  4x: 200fps 49ms
  cyberpunk 2077

[hollow kettle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/G2E9ZHvzeJ

Missing ROPs in 5070ti & 5090. Supposedly 0.5% are affected by this and you can send it to board manufacture for new card. Also they said it has been “corrected” 🧐

[vestal tusk]

the 50xx series continues to be more and more of a joke

nvidia is truly the apple of gaming now lol

[plucky quail]

Or the intel of now

[pure ibex]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/samsung-extends-lpddr5-to-12-7-gt-s-next-gen-devices-enjoy-a-nice-speed-boost

The portable pc community is eating good

[hollow kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oPlCnul.jpeg

I found my 1070’s box xD

[tawny thicket]

They are more like past intel from back in the great CPU stagnation

[uneven portal]

74 ms and 49 ms

[polar mountain]

?

Do you want to see raster results too?

[uneven portal]

Can't Reflex 2.0 be activated yet? Just curious

[polar mountain]

Not out yet, it will be first implemented in the finals and valorant

[uneven portal]

So that's why the latency is like what I have, it seemed strange to me

[polar mountain]

Raster 7800x3d 5070ti 1440p

• DLAA
  off: somethings wrong and runs at 50fps with like 90ms
  2x: 111fps 42ms
  3x: 156fps 46ms
  4x: 188fps 49ms
• DLSS Quality
  off: 128fps 25ms
  2x: 195fps 29ms
  3x: 260fps 31ms
  4x: 309fps 32ms

[uneven portal]

I still wonder how Reflex 2 technology will be applied to different games.

[uneven portal]

Comparing it with my 4070 Ti that I have stored, the performance is better; it must be the only GPU that's worth something from that generation.

[polar mountain]

You can see on nv website, reflex 1 27ms, reflex 2 14ms https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/reflex-2-even-lower-latency-gameplay-with-frame-warp/

[polar mountain]

Yeah like i said, its the least worst out of all 50 series, managed to get +400 core and +2000 memory and still draws only 200w in stalker 2 with 4x mfg native

[uneven portal]

I know how Reflex works. That's really why it's complicated to apply, depending on the game. For example, in driving simulators, I doubt it can be applied since it's more complicated to determine the input through the frame difference, or in games with movements in 3D.

[polar mountain]

Imo it would be a shame if someone would not use dlss quality and fg in a story game with insane graphics, and they would rather say “native is much better (taa lol) and “i dont need fake fps” when the visual smoothness is the same as real fps and the input latency isnt bad if youre not playing with over 1600dpi and not flick the mouse everywhere just to complain about latency

Again depends on the upscaling and fg implementation, for me stalker has insane ghosting with dlss quality, while fg/mfg 2x 3x or 4x doesnt have any artifacts at all

[uneven portal]

Well, I’ve tried it at a friend's house and I do notice a bit of a difference, to be honest. The biggest problem I have with FG is that it's not AI-based rasterization, we're not there yet and it will always have some limitations. Also, its performance will depend a lot on how it's implemented and the game being used. I just see it as a last-resort option, not something I want to use all the time, especially because of the input. We'll have to see how Reflex 2 performs.

[polar mountain]

Yeah but imo its fg off or straight to 4x mfg, the difference in input latency from 2x to 4x is negligible, pair that with a high refresh monitor and its a great experience at native dlaa, ive got a 360hz oled and it is incredible smoothness

[tawny thicket]

I doubt reflex 2 async reprojection would work on DL-FG(or MFG )

[uneven portal]

It's a possibility, it's just too doubtful that it can do it, but I wouldn't complain if that were the case.

[polar mountain]

Also noticed when going down in dlss presets, ghosting and some artifacts is minimized since dlaa and dlss quality are trying to preserve as much detail but instead artifacts appear, theres still some updates to go to improve the upscaling part

[uneven portal]

Honestly, if the game is something like Stalker, which has artifacts and ghosting because of Lumen and other things, using FG will only amplify the artifacts. We experienced this with a 5080. The same goes for DLSS, they can't reduce ghosting because it comes from the game base itself.

[polar mountain]

Seen more from dlss other than fg

[uneven portal]

I'm not talking about the artifacts produced directly by FG and DLSS, but rather the ones that are unintentionally caused by game errors. The generated frames are not connected to the engine; they don't know when something is an artifact caused by the game unintentionally or a delay in lighting loading. So FG produces more FPS and artifacts, but based on my experience with the 5080, I wouldn’t use it unless I felt forced to, and if it didn’t produce input lag.

[tawny thicket]

leaked RDNA 4 benchmarks !?
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-gaming-performance-leaked-rx-9070xt-is-42-faster-on-average-than-7900-gre-at-4k

[tawny thicket]

and it seems like we wont be getting 6800 XT V3
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995299946028871737/1343188345303601152/dae728o4CW.png?ex=67bc5d20&is=67bb0ba0&hm=cdfbcd52d286922980e2bcf611a5069253e9b0d71c97566e5b5374a3037d8cda&

[cerulean jolt]

lovely

[plucky quail]

Would be a real gen on gen Upgrade

[tawny thicket]

unlike lackwell

[tawny thicket]

.

[plucky quail]

Just need to price it like the 7900gre

[opaque moat]

im here payin bills and stuff...people worrying about a discord rank ♿ lol

[tawny thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/932761153703149659/1343225696087969813/Screenshot_2025-02-19_183448.png?ex=67bc7fe9&is=67bb2e69&hm=7803a2fb8a5628b585d829908e6f2004363e5c61d63a0130dbe14348cd7f7e85&

😤

[pure ibex]

They don’t understand the value of discord rizz

[vestal tusk]

Fr

[tawny thicket]

RDNA 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0xAqkzQ53k

[polar mountain]

cool af

[tawny thicket]

50% better RT

[polar mountain]

better than 4080 i think

[tawny thicket]

and 35% ish better raster

[polar mountain]

+35% better rastter puts it right above xtx

[tawny thicket]

than 7900 GRE

[full charm]

Has anyone also noticed that there is no change in the fps between DLAA (100%) and Quality (66%)? Is this due to my resolution (FHD) because of the cpu bottleneck?

[spare coral]

Yeah

[tawny thicket]

100% CPU bottleneck

[tawny thicket]

[pure ibex]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-hints-at-AMD-Ryzen-Max-hardware-at-2nd-Gen-launch-as-AMD-joins-the-Feb-25-announcement.965678.0.html

[pure ibex]

We don’t know when production started

50 series didn’t start production till mid January

Hence why there was no supply

[tawny thicket]

they were gonna lauch in january

so i can only assume they have good supply by now

[hollow kettle]

Tell me why a 1660 TI is $410 on Amazon right now lol that’s more than 4060 and 3060

[brazen kayak]

Would advise never buying things like that on Amazon anyway

Probably 3rd party if it's that much?

[tawny thicket]

#SupplyIssue

[hollow kettle]

Companies selling via Amazon yeah. Some are Amazon themselves but most are just sponsored or featured offers. Idk anywhere else to look for gpu online that will allow me to pay with affirm. Down payment then monthly payments for the rest

If you choose the right plan after finding the right deal there is 0% interest a lot of the time. Very good deal imo

Pay same price as listed just over time instead of all at once

I think Newegg does Affirm also but they didn’t have hardly anything in stock last I checked couple days ago

[hollow kettle]

I just figured out how to filter to only show gpu sold by Amazon themselves xD

[brazen kayak]

Lot of scammers on Amazon when it comes to price gouging (not that Nvidia aren't scammers themselves)

Not sure if I've ever seen that on NE, but see it a lot on Amazon

[plucky quail]

I only buy mindfactory, alternate or galaxus

GPUs are somehow always expensive or scam on Amazon

[broken sage]

Ngl 9070xt looks promising, its just gonna come down to the price

[broken sage]

Had a guy try to sell me a 2070 for 300 bucks on marketplace

[timber lily]

Biggest scam in history
Don't get it bro
Get B580 instead it's much better or used Rtx 2080 Super/Ti

[timber lily]

If it's gonna have Rtx 5070 Ti performance

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/_we_cvY2Zto?feature=shared

[stable kite]

Nvidia APP just updated antyhing about DLSS 4 in stalker without that manual thing to do?

[sharp grove]

@grim umbra @quasi plinth @errant owl đe si baaa

[grim umbra]

Hi

[sharp grove]

šta ima

[tawny thicket]

the B580 still isnt in stock as far as i know

and you need at least a 7600 to beat the RX 7600 (in some cases anyway)

[grim umbra]

Ja sam dobro kako si ti Govorite li hrvatski jer ja govorim samo engleski sorry.

koristio sam google prevoditelj pa se ispričavam ako nema smisla

[sharp grove]

e jbg

sry about that, i thought u where bosnian for some reason

[tawny thicket]

i'd say this is off topic

[grim umbra]

Idk he pinged me here so I chat here

[grim umbra]

I spread Bosnian propaganda

[tawny thicket]

then its not your fault

but the other guy's fault
either way this is off topic

[grim umbra]

I would post some propaganda but I don’t think I have image perms here

Also why did you think I was Bosnian?

[sharp grove]

who cares, chill

[tawny thicket]

[sharp grove]

someone named beans reacted with a bosnian flag

[tawny thicket]

the mods perhaps 😉

[flat brook]

Damn, didn’t know I stumbled into https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/561153801114091521

[grim umbra]

That was me ❤️

Spreading the Bosnian spirit

[sharp grove]

hell yeah ❤️

[vestal tusk]

Move it to offtopic

[sharp grove]

Pc specs in bosnia are so expensive, hard to buy a decent pc here in Bosnia.. in bosnia we dont get latest pc specs… there, is this on topic for u ?

[light plover]

Someone here play on rtx4060 laptop? i want to ask how game is runing, cuz last time I ordered lenovo loq 15iax.

So is it gonna run Stalker 2 at Epic settings with dlss on DLAA + Nvidia FrameGen? At +60fps?

[hard juniper]

the game needs a good cpu too, so it depends

[ornate pollen]

any mods to run the game better? got like mid settings with framegen off as its input lag is awful at around 70 fps with 3090 hof and 12900k at 2k with 66% dlls

[spare coral]

Not at epic settings cause it will stutter like crazy but at medium/high prolly

Also yeah, it depends on the cpu too lol

[light plover]

Even with Anti stutter mod from nexus? I got 75fps on epic with dlaa and fsr3.1 FG (On my pc with 3060 r5 5600)

[light plover]

Cpu usage is like 40/50% on my pc

[spare coral]

But what cpu is gonna have that laptop you were asking about the laptop's performance and how much vram does that 4060 has

Laptop version of gpu and cpus are weaker

[light plover]

It has:

I5-12450HX 4.4Ghz

[spare coral]

Is this the 12 gb 3060?

[light plover]

Yea

[spare coral]

Yeah it makes sense it can run epic textures if it has 8gb then high is the max you can run without stuttering

[patent radish]

real

[light plover]

Okey so on epic how much fps i can get?

With dlaa and fg

[light plover]

For me, Base version of Anty-Stutter mod from nexus gives best performance and no graphic loss (70-100fps on 3060 12gb)

[spare coral]

About the same as your pc with the 3060

[light plover]

Cool, btw is there any diff between FSR FG and Nvidia dlss 3.5 FG?

IS it work better or has better input lag? /quality?

[spare coral]

Dlss looks better in most cases but other than not really

[light plover]

But in context of Frame Generators

There are options for fsr3.1 and Nvidia Frame gen

[spare coral]

Yeah, its what i said
Dlss framegen looks better but its basically the same

[light plover]

Okey thx for info

[pure ibex]

B580 can oc a lot which is cool

Stock it can do like 15 percent

With mods it can probably do 20 or 25

[viral hearth]

Anyone here have shadows turning red in low light?

i turned any upscaling and frame generation off, latest drivers etc but still happening in low light on stalker

[hollow kettle]

75fps with frame Gen is terrible

[light plover]

I can say:

Not great, not terrible 😆

[hollow kettle]

How come you use dlaa but fsr frame Gen instead of dlss frame Gen? Oh nvm 30 series

I forget 30 series doesn’t have dlss FG

[spare coral]

Nvidia cockblocking everyone that isnt 40 or above from their framegen

[hollow kettle]

I notice lots of artifacts and smeary pixelation when using frame Gen with less than 100 fps. Over 100 it is nice and smooth barely noticeable

[spare coral]

Its get rough when your base framerate is lower than 48
More than 60 and its really nice (thats why more people only recommend it when you are over 60 frames

[light plover]

Yea and same happening with 40 seried cuz it wont receive MultiFG

[wooden rapids]

We are all forsaken

[pure ibex]

We find out in 4 days

[coarse linden]

Eh DLSS framegen on 30 series ran abysmally bad

Just like with multiFG on 40 series someone found a way to get it run on 30 series card back then

[tawny thicket]

it wasnt interpolating 3D stuff

only 2D : (

[plucky quail]

Really just nothing

Except FSR will give you more fps

[plucky quail]

Bruh retail is even selling them now cuz they have a pile just sitting there

[tawny thicket]

aaaannnnd has a problem with anything it doesnt get motion vectors for

[light plover]

Maybe small quality diff

[tawny thicket]

and sometimes with things around the edges of screen space

[plucky quail]

What text? AMD has that least decoupled

[tawny thicket]

at a low base framerate might i add

[tawny thicket]

nope
if you have a gun and you start looking left to right for excample
it leaves weird artifacts

at a low base framerate might i add

[plucky quail]

Yes that’s something that FSR struggles

[tawny thicket]

UI can also look strange if you have a really low base

[plucky quail]

UI is decoupled

[tawny thicket]

yeah.
thats not why it might looks strange though

[plucky quail]

?

[tawny thicket]

it can look juttery at times

[plucky quail]

UI?

[tawny thicket]

yeah,
if you have a really low base

[plucky quail]

Sub 50fps you mean

[tawny thicket]

yeah

i know you arent meant to use it like that
but i hella prefer it over FSR P at 1080p

[plucky quail]

But that’s only if u have animation and it looks just low fps.

[plucky quail]

True

[past escarp]

in ukraine we actually have them in stock, but it seems there are few of them left

[tawny thicket]

ahh i see

[past escarp]

and they cost roughly 370$

[past escarp]

does 7800xt overclocks well? cause i obly heard abt 7900xt and xtx

[pure ibex]

Yes but only if you unlock it’s power limit

[past escarp]

just like 7900xt and xtx. so its unlocked bios can use more then 500w?

[pure ibex]

Probably won’t need that much but yah

[past escarp]

thats a lot of power consumption

[pure ibex]

You sadly still have to deal with the very annoying way Radeon of works

Unless you do it via the debug port

[past escarp]

and what exactly is annoying?

[pure ibex]

It doesn’t just run the speed you set

It has to think it can

Before it will run it

Which means it always leaves some amount of performance on the table because it’s some what modest in its estimation

Using the debug port just disables all that crap

You just have to be able to solder

[past escarp]

for now i am satisfied with my gpu but thanks for info

[pure ibex]

The bios mod is best and safest method though

Using the debug port disables all the gpus safeties so

If it over heats

There is nothing to stop it from frying its self

[coarse linden]

Reminds me i should buy hot air station

[past escarp]

i guess with my gpu it will be easier, cause it has at least 2 bios modes

[pure ibex]

Yah

Idk if Radeon bios are easier to get than GeForce bios but

[past escarp]

maybe it has 3 modes, im not sure

[pure ibex]

GeForce bios are a bitch your get your hands on

[past escarp]

so they are more difficult to mod?

[pure ibex]

No

Nvidia just takes them off the internet

So you have to get them directly sent to you

From someone in the know

[past escarp]

oh i see

[opaque moat]

DF Blackhawk down released...UE 5.4 and it runs horribly. as i said all along. doesnt matter how hard its optimized, the engine is way ahead of the hardware.

its actually worst than stalker 2 but then again... its free so there's that lol

[tawny thicket]

FML

[opaque moat]

basically...if you on budget build and see UE5 ... dont buy the game.

[hard juniper]

runs better than stalker for me

[opaque moat]

so much more fps dips than stalkekr

[tawny thicket]

i'll try it out with my next GPU

[opaque moat]

i dont like the co op. i have kids and i quit midgame all the time lol

[pure ibex]

i just dont understand what were even getting

most eu5 games look on par with stuff we had 6 years ago

[hard juniper]

easier to use i suppose

[opaque moat]

nah UE5 has more depth and realism when its used correctly.

[hard juniper]

keyword when

[opaque moat]

you have UE5 realism then you have fortnite lol

[hard juniper]

i'd rather we stick with slightly worse visuals if the cost is games having terrible performance

you can even compare delta force to itself. Multiplayer runs extremely well compared to the coop mode

[opaque moat]

well i say stalker 2 should have been made in unreal 4

i average 230fps in scum (UE4)

even state of decay 2

[pure ibex]

most eu5 games have about as much depth and realism as metro exodus

but metro exodus runs at like 3x the fps

and looks the same or better

[opaque moat]

it runs good and probably looks better than stalker 2 but not blackhawk down

[pure ibex]

who cares

if i have to run with quad frame gen with 30ms of input lag

[opaque moat]

i dont play competitively so i dont notice input lag.

im glad i have an idea of how state of decay 3 is gonna run. wont wait on it

[hard juniper]

idk how people don't notice input lag, it's like dragging your mouse through mud. Though i suppose that explains all the people bragging about getting 60fps with frame gen enabled lol

[opaque moat]

who gets 60 fps with FG? 2070 users?

[hard juniper]

dunno a bunch of people have said it

not only in this server either, i can't imagine how bad it feels to play like that

[opaque moat]

anyone with less than a 3080 in this game...RiP

4080s gets 120's in rostok so i know its not high end users getting 60 fps with fg

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/live/GZfFPI8LJrc?si=7o9Z08isvShXhsgX

gonna watch the live stream.

Hopefully this livestream least gonna be good not like ces. Both sides where mumbling about AI for the hole time

[hollow kettle]

I haven’t made it to rostok yet but so far about 40 hours and 5 zones in I haven’t really had fps drop. Other than initially in zalyssia before I optimized settings

And that’s with 4060. Dlss Q + FG with optimized settings I never dip below 105 fps even in settlements

[plucky quail]

What’s the average and how much in Rostock ?

[hollow kettle]

I haven’t made it to that place yet

I use afterburner OSD and I don’t think the avg frame time is correct it always says 127 or so

Maybe it is idk I don’t have osd on all the time only in settlements to check performance

That’s with optimized settings 1080p though

[plucky quail]

Tell if you are there cuz my i9 has 110 fps in Rostock all epic AA 1440p

[hollow kettle]

I expected my i5 to be much worse than it is but 13600kf turns out to be good cpu imo. But yes I am about to log in again and play some more. I am in cordon right now

[plucky quail]

Yea the cpu is really good budget. If not the best

[hollow kettle]

I stumbled across a website claiming the 13600kf is better than 7800x3D 🤣

Idk where they get their info from but they need to check again

If I changed some settings and now my gpu usage is less than 99-100% should I increase some settings that affect gpu or is this okay?

[tawny thicket]

userbark mench ?

[plucky quail]

Called user benchmark ?? 🙂

[opaque moat]

price/performance the 13600K is hard to beat

[hollow kettle]

No it was cpubenchmark.net I think

[tawny thicket]

much better

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[hollow kettle]

I just got to camp Icarus in Zaton. First entering my fps drop to 98 for a second then back to 100+. Inside base building 110-120 fps. Vram usage went up from 5.2GB to 5.9gb

I thought I was seeing artifacts when sunlight reflected off my weapon and walls stuff like that. But even after disabling frame Gen it looked the same. Very noisy rays of light and stuff

[tawny thicket]

blame lumen.

[wooden rapids]

How is DLSS4 working out yet?

[hollow kettle]

Not natively. Very stupid

Not that I know of anyway. Doesn’t seem like it is

[tawny thicket]

Native? No.
But there are ways...

[hollow kettle]

There was nvidia app update today and one change had dlss override fix

They added preset K for every game that supports override

How does that even work if a game doesn’t support dlss? Would in game settings show upscaling being used or what

[coarse linden]

???

If game doesnt support DLSS why would there be any ingame settings for it?

[hollow kettle]

It has dlss override in Nvidia app you can set and it says in the description that it overrides in game settings. For example, avowed doesn’t have DLAA. I set it to DLAA in Nvidia app but I have no way to tell in game if it is even working

[coarse linden]

There is regedit to get debug info to showup that shows you which profile is being used

[spare coral]

Yeah but if the game doesnt have any form of Dlss it doesnt do anything

[pure ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/live/-8k7jTF_JCg?feature=shared

[wooden rapids]

They should have make a waifu mascot

[pure ibex]

https://youtu.be/LvBtfqU6svo?feature=shared

[hollow kettle]

Avowed does have dlss it just doesn’t have native DLAA. That is exactly what the super resolution override is for. Not the presets. The one with only DLAA or Ultra performance override options

[spare coral]

Yeah but you asked how does it work if a game doesnt support dlss lol

[spare coral]

You should check it yourself with and without it turned on
Example choose ultra performance without the override and it should look like total crap

[hollow kettle]

Yeah I only ask that last night bc there was YouTube videos of ppl saying “enable dlss for every game” then I looked into myself to find it isn’t true

[hollow kettle]

I just don’t know if I would leave dlss enabled on quality or something or turn off upscaling altogether. It says in nvidia app “allows you to enable certain DLSS super resolution modes not supported in certain DLSS games or apps”
“When overrides are active, in game DLSS settings and optimizations will be overridden”

But it was not working for avowed. I’m about to check if it even shows on their supported list on their site

[spare coral]

The override replaces all the dlss settings so yeah, you need to have dlss on
All =quality, balance, performance and ultra performance become the one you overrided it with
In this case DLAA

[hollow kettle]

Right that’s how it supposed to work. But last night after o set DLAA override I still turned in game settings down to dlss ultra performance and it made the game look terrible. So it not work

[spare coral]

Probably cant be overrided sadly