pc-specs

[opaque moat]

i think because the 4070 is fire right now and the AMD (kind of) equivalent is 7800xt ... witch does not come as XTX

[glass vault]

xtx is a 4080 or 4070 ti equal depending on price

[plucky quail]

Is that like with the close launch of the 5070 and 90Series or just one of those and they have just 70$ diff.

[vestal quail]

hello, i have rx6600 with r5 5500 16gb ram and i have installed stalker 2 on crucial 1tb nvme m.2 6000mps and runing very well on mid settings

70 fps on normal gameplay, but in big camps my fps drop to 50-40fps

[fleet mountain]

I've been running a 7900gre for the past few months, performance on the new AMD is good, never had any driver issues, they improved a lot.
You might also get a bit better performance on the XT over the 4070 for less money, but they can more or less be considered same performance
Also if you can wait, I'd suggest waiting to see the upcoming Rx 9070 too
Who knows you might get a good deal on it

[spare coral]

This game is very demanding on setlements for both cpu and gpu
Im assuming that is with framegen on

With that cpu you are prolly gettin bottlenecked in the camps

[hard juniper]

4070, same reasoning as the last poll

nvidia just has a huge advantage in upscaling (performance/image quality) and ray tracing

though in a fair few titles the 7900 xt can still come out on top with raster performance

[tawny thicket]

as far as im concerned driver bugs dont exist (today)

at least ones that dont get resolved by a reastart

[fleet mountain]

Improved a lot I was referring to the older cards from like 10 years ago

[spare coral]

Nowadays its windows messing up with your drivers or stability instead of AMD

[tawny thicket]

solution : dont upgrade to win-dowes 11

i mean downgrade

[plucky quail]

U still didn’t answer.

Is that like with the close launch of the 5070 and 90Series or just one of those and they have just 70$ diff.

[tawny thicket]

you got me confused
in hungary NVIDIA cards generally cost a lot. way too much (IDK if this answers you question)

[plucky quail]

I am asking if thats with the upcoming Cards in mind cuz if it is i would not buy any new card above 300$. Comes to the situation.

[tawny thicket]

the votes are with the new cards in mind (as i dont think the NVIDIA cards would cost this much otherwise(i forgot what the prices were previously))

wow DLSS 1 was so shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpd5j5W1NZw

[uneven portal]

It applies to half of Europe.

Likewise, I don't understand the pricing of either AMD or NVIDIA with some of their assemblers. I never thought I'd see PNY or Zotac being so expensive—as if they were EVGA....

[hard juniper]

pretty wild how far it's come

[plucky quail]

They really started to work on DLSS after FSR2 release.

[spare coral]

A 4070ti super is 1500 usd here in Argentina lol

[coarse linden]

Eh more like ongoing process constantly

DLSS 1 was beyond useless since it required developers to have Nvidia run training model for months while results were laughably subpar

[uneven portal]

dale tiempo a milei jajaja

[spare coral]

Va a tomar varios años igual kjjj

[uneven portal]

4 maybe

[plucky quail]

Nah they really started with DLSS as FSR 2 came out and then it was where Nvidia started of with image quality. But we are talking DLSS 2.0 or 2.1

[coarse linden]

DLSS 2.3 was already out when FSR 1 was getting implemented

DLSS 2.4.6 was out when FSR 2 was launched

[uneven portal]

I'm one of those who, despite always having NVIDIA graphics cards, prefer not to use DLSS—unless the game uses TAA. In that case, it's normal for it to look better with DLSS

I just don't like how it looks in many games; I think they might have outdated versions.

[coarse linden]

I usually use DLAA when possible

[plucky quail]

Then it was later versions can remember

when exactly it was.

[coarse linden]

I mean i dont see pressure from AMD

[hard juniper]

i shamelessly use it in almost every game, often times it looks the same as or better than native so it's just free performance

[plucky quail]

I hate also TAA. It makes games look so bad that it makes upscaler better somehow.

[coarse linden]

Dont forget ghosting

[uneven portal]

The only games where DLSS is better than playing natively are those that heavily rely on TAA. In the rest, there's always something that makes it unnecessary for me, as long as my frame rate is good and I want better graphical quality.

Besides, modern games give less performance; lowering the resolution affects the frame rate less and less

[tawny thicket]

i dont usually notice TAA blur or ghostiness

[coarse linden]

So pretty much any modern game since all games these days rely on TAA

[tawny thicket]

in most UE 5 games standing still VS moving look just as sharp (at least with FSR)

[uneven portal]

I notice it a lot. I'm used to playing games that are over 10 years old, and once you go back to modern ones, it becomes disgusting.

Yesterday I was playing Burnout Revenge, and I decided to try Stalker 2 to test a mod. My god, even Tarkov in 720p is sharper.

[tawny thicket]

i see

[hard juniper]

yeah it has gotten pretty egregious imo

[tawny thicket]

well in Stalker 2 with TSR / TAA / XeSS i notice blurriness when moving but FSR doesnt get noticably blurrier

FSR struggles with other stuff though : most notably shimmering

and i havent seen DLSS yet

though i assume the CNN model would be slightly less sharp than FSR while being much more stable

[uneven portal]

STALKER 2, if you set it to native resolution, you’ll realize why it abuses TAA so much. It’s one of the big issues with Unreal Engine 5 developments.

[tawny thicket]

its unplayable without temporal stuff thats for sure

[tawny thicket]

i like sharp images.but without TAA the game is just so sharp and pixelated that it hurts my eyes

i'd take the games default TAA TBH

[coarse linden]

I mean you cant really disable TAA these days since post processing is married to it so all that goes with it

[uneven portal]

And well, it also reveals some graphical errors, like how Nanite works. You can see how the trees change in quality and polygon count, almost like they’re weird meshes.

[coarse linden]

Default TAA on unreal games is abysmal. Most devs dont bother play with it so most unreal engine games are abysmally blurry

[tawny thicket]

well thats the reason why FSR Q at 1080p is often better than native TAA

[coarse linden]

Applies to DLSS too

[tawny thicket]

+XeSS + TSR

[coarse linden]

TSR is abysmal and should not exist

It makes FSR 1 look like DLSS quality

Ok bit overboard but still

[tawny thicket]

true TSR is the worst upscaler ever

[coarse linden]

Epic saw all these sexy upscalers and decided to absolutely need to reinvent the wheel and made half arsed square as a wheel

I havent tried XeSS so cant really say much about it other then that it apparently preserves quality better then FSR

[hard juniper]

only time i used xess was a few years ago on cod when it was better than fsr

does the job at least

[tawny thicket]

especially for me TSR has this weird visual bug #📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

in every UE 5 game i've played so far

[coarse linden]

I mean it is basically FSR 1 with Epic name splapped onto it

[tawny thicket]

i think its better than FSR 1 and can sometimes eclipse FSR 3.1 actually

it often has less pixelation than FSR when moving

[coarse linden]

I mean it is somewhat better then FSR 1 but cant really touch 3.1

That is actually because FSR sucks at 1080p

[tawny thicket]

well it might be different at higher resolutions

but i often see the 2 be very clos in overall quality

[coarse linden]

FSR does get better 1440p and 4k. Doesnt lose as much details

But 1080p its bad

Simply not enough data for it to reconstruct when trying to upscale from under 1080p

Heres hoping that FSR 4 improves on that

[tawny thicket]

at 1080p FSR 3.1s biggest problem is shimmering

otherwise it looks fine

https://imgsli.com/MzQ1MTk0 i made this quick TSR VS FSR image comparison

[vestal tusk]

yikes that tsr is bad

[coarse linden]

One of its problems. Atleast in my testing it loses details when comparing to DLSS

[tawny thicket]

yeah, well they both had shimmering but TSR actually had more in that scene

[vestal tusk]

true both werent ideal at that resolution just fsr did semi better

[tawny thicket]

yeah it does lose detail , but it loses the least detail in motion out of the 3 upscalers i can use

[coarse linden]

Yeah somethings just have to be happy for what you have

[tawny thicket]

scene no2 both are standing still https://imgsli.com/MzQ1MjAy

https://imgsli.com/MzQ1MjA2 same thing just this time while moving

[opaque moat]

oh a bot- nevermind its vanished

[tawny thicket]

*fair

[opaque moat]

new series brings in a new innovation. multi frame generation.(50 series only) if it was only DLSS4 being released then sure yes i would agree with the (Ti) titles

tbh...props to nvidia to bring in new ideas even if its laughed at. ngl. they dgaf

[vestal quail]

No, R5 5500 have enough power to work with rx6600 properly but i can make a upgrade with same CPU probably becouse my rx6600 works at 100% and my CPU works like 70%

[tawny thicket]

problem with FG is : it sucks unless you dont need it especially the case with MFG

[plucky quail]

Well its a new Idea but not something thats really needed. Like neural Compression would be much better now.

[opaque moat]

this is what im sayin though.... nvidia trying new things regardless how people feel about it. if they take a loss they dont care

[plucky quail]

Like its more a marketing thing like "You have 2X FG right? how about 4X FG"

[opaque moat]

yet their ideas havent taken a loss yet

[tawny thicket]

i think if NVIDIA were a more honest about this generation of cards people wouldnt be making fun of MFG so much

like if they said that MFG was just a gimick (which is what it is IMO) no one would be out there constantly making fun of it

[opaque moat]

ray tracing was a gimmick when 20 series came out though.

[tawny thicket]

this is very different.

[plucky quail]

Like give Good uplift in performance and MFG nobody would care but its like they dont care about performance and therefor they gonna give just more Generated frames.

[opaque moat]

let them get this MFG out and improve on it. i dont see it going away and i dont see them dropping their prices because of it

[hard juniper]

ray tracing was new, frame generation isn't

[tawny thicket]

that too

[hard juniper]

nvidia used a whole new generation to essentially turn to people and say "you know that thing that's only really useful when you already have good frames? Yeah we did that again but cranked to 11"

totally useless for most people since their monitors don't have a high enough refresh rate anyway, paired with the very mediocre actual performance improvement compared to last gen, it's just a disappointment

[plucky quail]

Would u guys say RT is still a gimmick on low end cards? Cuz using RT on that low i would not consider a option.

[hard juniper]

for low end i would agree yeah

[tawny thicket]

it 100% is a gimick on the 60 class

for the AMD side its a gimick on the 7900 GRE and below IMO

[opaque moat]

all of nvidia's gimmicks are paying off so far ngl . thats whats wierd.

[flint spoke]

dlss sucks too if you're upscaling from 720p to 1080

[plucky quail]

Well i would say they still need to get paid of. Like RT is not in the state where it should be and by the 5090 it kinda looks if we still need longer.

[tawny thicket]

well from a marketing standpoint yes.

[flint spoke]

like either way its a blurry mess esp in a game like stalker 2

[coarse linden]

Does lot better compared to FSR

[tawny thicket]

at least with MFG : i cant tell you just how many people belived that the 5090 is actually 2 X 4090

[flint spoke]

i can't say, but I played stalker 2 with dlss at 1080p, sucked

[opaque moat]

i know one creator that backed down from the 5090.... sticking to his dual 3090's

[coarse linden]

RT got that carrot thing going where it saves development time since you dont need to bake lights

Anything that saves day or weeks for developers they will be all over it

[odd vector]

Hi, my game keeps crashing. Getting the below error. OS and GPU settings are up to date. Any ideas? I've even tried lowering the graphics settings

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp]

[coarse linden]

Think you are missing rest of the error there

[vestal quail]

U use SSD?

Is not a joke i cant barely play on my pc becouse of i has stalker 2 on hdd and when i install It on my nvme m.2 its just a diferent Game.

[coarse linden]

I mean minimum system requirements require SSD for a reason

[vestal quail]

Yeah but not all have SSD.

[coarse linden]

Doesnt change fact its in minimum system requirements

[vestal quail]

I mean SSD for instal games of course SSD to put Windows

[vestal quail]

Yeah

[coarse linden]

Probably should not buy a game you cant run, unless you are into buying things for sake of buying

[fleet wraith]

SSDs have been needed since consoles moved to ssd

Games are optimized for them

[austere crane]

DLSS 4 w/ preset 'k' (transform model) looks amazing

i'm using nvidia profile inspector revamped to force it in any game that uses DLSS, works awesome. no more messing around swapping dlls manually, and it even works with games with anticheat that don't normally allow it like EFT

[hard juniper]

i'd be wary of doing it in online games

[austere crane]

yeah i wouldn't recommend anyone do that, but i'm personally willing to take the risk, f it :p

[tawny thicket]

semi-surprising

i am surprised at the amount of people who'd still consider the 4070 Super TIE

at that price

[hard juniper]

in my mind if i'm spending exorbitant amounts of money on hardware i might as well spend a little more and get something slightly better. Could go amd and spend the rest on something else, but then i'm gonna be living that spongebob meme where squidward is watching the others run around outside, with dlss that is

[austere crane]

yup. also there's a weird phenomenon where top-of-the-line hardware, whether gpu, cpu, mobo, ram etc, holds value REALLY well compared to anything else. so yeah it's a big "buy in" but it continuously pays off as you sell your old hardware for a very good price

[coarse linden]

Nvidia software stack too stronk

[plucky quail]

Yea is prob the brand name.

[tawny thicket]

to me : spending +195€ (+27%) for something that is often slower and has less VRAM just isnt worth it

[hard juniper]

the vram definitely is a bit of a turn off

didn't consider that

[tawny thicket]

i also dont care about RT much

as there are only 18 games where RT makes the game genuenly look better

[plucky quail]

True how many games have RT in it and even how many improve visuals by a lot.

[tawny thicket]

according to this video anyway
whoopsie

[plucky quail]

Did you meant to send the HUB video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNH0NyN8K8&t=2091s

[tawny thicket]

oh yeah i did🤦‍♂️😅

[plucky quail]

Yea and even that some you cant run on 1000$ GPU

[tawny thicket]

well yeah,thats the other part of it

new leak maybe possibly ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmT7qA9UcWM

[plucky quail]

What would u say how the Price of the 9070XT gonna be ?

[tawny thicket]

I think it'll be 450

if AMD actually want market share

[coarse linden]

Getting too old for competitive games so RT is all i got lol

[tawny thicket]

and the non XT will be 380/350/400

[plucky quail]

That would be insane good price and i think with that AMD would really gain customers. But even 550$ would be Good if the XT is same performance as 7900XT

[tawny thicket]

so that leak says 600~

[tawny thicket]

yeah,thats what they *should price them at

but i could still see people being like "AMD is NVIDIA -50"

[vestal quail]

Not really we need It now in 2025 but back in time was no need it

[tawny thicket]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-instinct-mi400-chiplet-design-to-feature-new-multimedia-io-dies

[plucky quail]

Well least we know UDNA gonna be a beast

[fleet wraith]

SSDs have been widespread in PC since 2012. My first boot ssd was 2010

[plucky quail]

I mean you need SSD right but you can make a mixed setup with HDD and SSD. Cuz still many of my games are old and can run on HDD with no problem and that extra storage is nice.

[opaque moat]

my 3.2gb quantum fireball is missed

[coarse linden]

If you already have HDD there is no reason to dump it really

Just need to accept its useless for modern games

[plucky quail]

But i need your help guy i can talk cheeki breeki? i cant open that Door.

[coarse linden]

Basic SSD's are cheap enough

[vestal quail]

no no i mean SSD to install games on It, imagine get Windows installed on hdd 💀💀💀

[vestal quail]

https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/42322610794201118/377A5485F5D2149F977C4A0C5D974819FC54D8E9/

why there are rats in to protection camp?¿

[plucky quail]

iduno

My cheeki game crashed

[late ferry]

bauderbaumeister has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky quail]

NOOOOOOOO '
Anyway my I9 14900K is dead. Gonna send it on Monday back to intel to get one new.

[tawny thicket]

R.I.P.

https://tenor.com/view/intc-stock-intc-coffin-intel-coffin-gif-14403125517727857092

[opaque moat]

dont forget update microcode bios if you didnt already.

i didnt even do it yet with my 13600k but i will before installing 14700kf

[plucky quail]

I did but i got the 2 (The one now) in May back and there was no Bios update in any way

[opaque moat]

ah ok cool

[serene meteor]

I'm looking at what card is great for 1080p Epic settings and they all struggle to get to 60fps lmao

I saw 7700 XT and its alright then I saw 7800 XT and its like 58fps average

both 16GB cards

[lost anchor]

Mix of medium/high settings looks just as good as epic and if you use quality upscaling with dlss 4 it is practically native quality. I play on a 4060 and I average around 60 fps in non town areas at 1080p. Not to mention that framegen is feeling really good now with dlss 4 and with a lower latency mod, turning on framegen is a no brainer.

(I get about 105 fps with framegen enabled)

[elder plover]

Is anyone good at fixing bugs in the game

[serene meteor]

right I may go for 7800xt if the 9070 sucks

I'm playing right on a 1070 with TSR upscaling and FSR and it helps a lot but its still all Low

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/By5fINIp8IQ?si=lsTkHPu2vbijSrGg this Video aged really badly.

[hollow kettle]

What does this mean? I have a 13600kf. I updated my bios less than a month after getting my pc. Was there something else I needed to do?

Microcode bios is they just your bios version or something?

[plucky quail]

U should be fine u have no i7 or i9 even if u dont have the latest i think u should be ok

[hollow kettle]

I heard that the excessive voltage and oxidization issues are for all 13th & 14th Gen Intel CPUs though

But I also heard updating to most recent bios version fixes it as long as you didn’t use it for long time before updating. Someone in here actually helped me update about a month and a half ago

Oh I just checked and the bios update I did back then was exactly for cpu microcode

[plucky quail]

Oxidation was for some of the CPUs a Problem but it was those that came out of a fab in the us.

[plucky quail]

That’s the hope. But even if my cpu was 2-3month without proper bios update. It’s anyway for all 13-14 gen user a 5 year guarantee so enough for me to have time to upgrade to am6

[vapid bramble]

I have these weird artifacts, whenever i activate frame gen and dlss to quality. I have these white dots on my right side of the screen (No it is not the radiation effect) . Does anyone else have this?

[wispy trench]

all weird artifacts have a possitive and a negative effect so what is the positive? 🧌

[tawny thicket]

TI is back https://youtu.be/KEtb0punTHk?si=U7i1AtDyHMkuEfpn

[agile harbor]

oxidation, specifically, only affected a subset of 13th gen chips, was identified and resolved before 14th gen released.

the power issues however, that's everybody

at least with the higher end SKU's

[glass vault]

Rip 5000 series a microcenter said none for 3 weeks

[hollow kettle]

Oh gamers nexus had a video saying oxidization issues happened with all 13th & 14th Gen. weird

[late ferry]

neko07176 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

naughty naughty....

[hollow kettle]

Crazy how you can’t find any individual units but they got prebuilts with 5080/90 out the wazoo

[glass vault]

pretty sure the prebuilds are preorder as well

[hollow kettle]

I only looked at couple of sites but skytech for sure had 5080 prebuilts in stock. 5090 only one model and you had to pre order it

[glass vault]

5080s they have decent stock 90 class nobody has any

[hollow kettle]

Almost $3000 for 9800x3d + 5080 and almost $5000 for ultra 9 285k + 5090

Pc cost as much as a used car these days

[glass vault]

it is bleeding edge

[opaque moat]

13600K doesnt need the microcode update if you do not overclock, cases are super rare like "Lottery" rare, bios update is needed for i7 and i9.

[coarse linden]

OEM cards

[flint spoke]

just buy ones from scalpers. Don't you want to waste like 2,000 bucks on making the worst human beings around rich?

seriously tho, sad situation.

[flint spoke]

some epic settings don't even look good and you need to edit it manually to increase the settings

like reflections, epic reflections are really very much not epic

[opaque moat]

editing game files. rip.

[opaque moat]

tarriffs delayed a month for canada. yay. now i dont have to rush for that 14700kf

[woeful umbra]

Anyone got an rtx 4070ti super OC? Just bought it, upgrading from a rtx 2060

[flat brook]

Gigabyte Eagle variant, good card

[woeful umbra]

You have it yourself?

[flat brook]

Yes

[woeful umbra]

So what you're saying is I should be an excited little boy

[flat brook]

Very much so, it’s about on par with the 4080 and 10-15% off the 4080 super. People will yap on about pricing, but once you have you’ll be having a lot of fun

[woeful umbra]

Super reassuring. I've read a bit about the 50-series and from what I gather its not a big leap except the 5090 which costs a small house

Most I read pointed to the 4070ti super, in terms of value so I went with that.

[flat brook]

Correction, it’s actually about 5% off the 4080 from what I can see from GN’s benchmarks, but that’s still nothing to scoff at

[woeful umbra]

Hell yeah

[flat brook]

Atleast in my region the 4070Ti-Super is/was great performance in terms of value relative to AMD, as the 7800/7900XT were incredibly inflated here

7900XT still goes for like 1050 here currently, which is insane, when the gigabyte Eagle 4070Ti-S was 880

[woeful umbra]

Also personally for me going from a 2060 its gonna be a big leap anyways

[flat brook]

That’s the important thing, you’re getting a massive upgrade

Min-maxing performance per dollar be damned, go enjoy the card

[lavish merlin]

Hey everyone I got an rtx 3060 Laptop with 6 GB VRAM and still getting memory leak issue. Anyone found a fix? Been trying everything from mods, to settings, to changing things in nvidia control panel, and after 5-10 minutes of gameplay, the fps drop to 5 and stay there with the gpu maxed at 100%

[vestal quail]

8VRAM and how much RAM?

[plucky quail]

Yea watched it at night

I dont know how LTT is gonna recover from that...

[tawny thicket]

I haven't watched the LTT video yet

And i wouldn't put it past that guy to take them out of context

[plucky quail]

Not all just some but the theory is that the Bus is melted with high voltage going through them for the Pcores and so you get those weird problem. And all parts of the Chip get effected.
The latest Bios update fixes the V spikes but its gonna show if that gonna fix it.

[plucky quail]

Well didnt take too long

[stable kite]

Yes, i have same gpu, dont pass medium preset and DLSS performance but drops to 10 will occur occasionally

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdAMcQgR92k I really forgot about this.

[tawny thicket]

oh yeah

crazy how NVIDIA did that

[glass vault]

wild to see how ther eis roughly 1k-1.5k 5090s in the US currently and its been almost a week

[raw sleet]

heh, there might be some in stock about a month before the 6000 series gets its paper launch two years from now

im not even sure why nvidia bothers at this point, they're printing money with AI datacenters.. and AMD is stepping out of the high end, Intel will never be more than mediocre.. I'm honestly waiting for them all to just stop making GPUs for gaming and telling everyone just to buy consoles

[serene meteor]

holy shit I have to upgrade my gpu

its super grainy and I even lowered the resolution a tier below 1080p but still very unenjoyable experience

I stopped like 1/10 into the story

[glass vault]

what gpu?

also good luck you probably won't be able to find a good deal on a gpu till april or may

[serene meteor]

thats fine I scratched the itch of playing enough

the 1070. turning 8 years old of owning it in a few months

[echo bough]

So I have a 16gb 4060ti and it runs surprisingly well

Not AMAZING fps but near constant 75-80

With everything on high or ultra

[hollow kettle]

I still have my 1070 also. Works great still but I upgraded to 4060 couple months back. Didn’t even try to play this game with 1070

I run BenchmarKing optimized settings and get 80-100 fps at 1080p. I use frame Gen bc for some reason this game looks awful without it. Microstutters galore but soon as I hit FG smooth as silk

[plucky quail]

Well Intel don’t Need to be mediocre they are just right now in big internal trouble. Look at there CPU side. They aren’t even producing their own CPU anymore.

The only thing intel got the arc b series holding back is drivers else those cards are the best u can buy.

[plucky quail]

Nothing wrong with ur gpu just the game I bet u can hold to that thing till the world collapses

[raw sleet]

Yeah, no clue what direction their next ceo will go in either, they may decide to shutter the gpu divsion outright

[wooden rapids]

I’m pretty sure that account for less than 2% of the revenue.
They lost their vertical advantage.
They customers aren’t lining up at the fab anymore, their death is imminent, matter of time before some PE or some joint venture buy them out.

DEATH TO INTEL!

[wooden rapids]

Current co-ceos aren’t even engineers to comprehend the scope of their operations.

Even the last engineer guys was a goddam moron

Was going to embedded an image of arrow and raptor lake retails performance for this Q1 and Q4 of last year.

But I realized I shouldn’t beat a dead horse.

And you must be stupider than them to buy an arrow lake with a z890 board at msrp

[plucky quail]

Yea but that was not the talk about the B580 and B570 cards. But why wish death to intel? Look TSMC there silicon cost so much and the research did slow down. Competition drives Companys to be consumer friendly. Else we would get Nvidia(Intel 2010-2020) situation. I am for Companys to get beaten down for not providing anything but that they outright Death is kinda hard.

[glass vault]

If intel can't do their own fabrication for arc it either means they are unable to do it or unable to satisfy demand. And this case it's satisfy demand

[late robin]

I got my Arc B580 last week, upgraded from a 2070..
Runs the game perfectly fine so far, i upgraded to 32gb of ram yesterday from 16 and tried running the game on EPIC with shadows and reflections on Medium and i had no noticeable frame drops and it felt smooth, didnt use afterburner tho so dont know the numbers, not that i care as long as it runs well but imma see what the numbers are tonight.
Ive played from lesser to garbage and only had frame drops when loading npcs in zalissya but that went away quick. Is there a specific point on the map that is quite taxing on hardware where one could do some tests?

[agile harbor]

Early game? Zalissya

Full of NPC's, really stresses the CPU

[plucky quail]

I think it there unableness in making the node Small enough with high yields

[tawny thicket]

in the ealry game : zallishyia is the best place for testing but if you want to test the B580 in particular you have to make sure you arent CPU limited. if you cant make sure that you are GPU limited then i suggest testing outside of zallishyia in a place with a bunch of trees and foliage

[plucky quail]

Guys the 5090 is already breaking down

[tawny thicket]

if you dont just want to test the CPU then zallishyia is 100% the best

[plucky quail]

Hope that its not gonna be a 13/14th gen 2.0

[tawny thicket]

elaborate : what happened?

[plucky quail]

Look J2C

His 5090 cant run higher clocks without crashing

[tawny thicket]

aight,will do (but right now i want to be testing MHW(to see how sh*t it is)

[plucky quail]

he did OC it and some point it just crashed but since then it coulnt reach the Clocks before

[tawny thicket]

OOF 4090 TI in trouble

[late ferry]

thelocalukrainian has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glass vault]

due to crap zotac overclocking software

[tawny thicket]

naughty naughty

[glass vault]

J2C FE was overclocking fine via afterburner but the zotac model for some reason won't allow afterburner to open

[plucky quail]

Yea there are also other issues with PCIe 5.0 and such. Gonna be looking out what its about those things

[glass vault]

pcie gen 5 is FE only issue due to the daughter board. but can be fixed with a hardware revision not sure if software tho

[plucky quail]

apparently not there are reports of other card that have that issue

[glass vault]

the other crashing is probably due to drivers alot of people i am seeing is driver related bluescreens

[agile harbor]

Software will catch up

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SpSLPHvHAs MEGA Geometry !! Its here!

[wooden rapids]

Apparently, Intel has to rely much more on sales volume than the competitors (since it’s entry level with lesser margins), but so far they aren’t catching up with demand yet.

. And for my hatred against Intel? It’s personal.

[plucky quail]

How

Personal?

[wooden rapids]

Money, I think that should explain everything and nothing at the same time

[plucky quail]

Did you work there? did The CEO kick you out? Or was that 13/14?

[wooden rapids]

I lost a significant amount of money investing in the garbage can.

[flat brook]

Didn’t he get it back to 3000+ with it in quiet mode?

[plucky quail]

NOOOO the stock? That thing is so low i could buy so many of it now. Justified hate

[wooden rapids]

I was 15% up once, of course I dreamt it going higher

Without revealing the exact amount, I lost -33% overnight

[plucky quail]

Did you keep it or sell?

[wooden rapids]

Of course I sold

Otherwise it would’ve been 40%

[tawny thicket]

When was that?

[spare coral]

Argentina got their first 5080s on stores
They are 3000 usd looool

[opaque moat]

seems like you at the wrong store lol

[coarse linden]

For now

SInce there are so little its justified for stores to hike up prices

Its going to be 2020 all over again

[opaque moat]

nah not here in canada.

[spare coral]

Nah, 4080 super are still at 2000+ usd here

[coarse linden]

Yet

[opaque moat]

i mean its not becoming like 2020 here, the msrp 3080 was a 2080ti killer. the 5080 price is not a 4080 killer

[coarse linden]

And yet sold out instantly

[opaque moat]

well thats just dumbness lol its people not looking into what they buying

[coarse linden]

I mean price on those cards will go up no matter what

[opaque moat]

5080 still just 300 more than the 4080 super here. prices not going up...none available but price is stable.

300 more for 15% performance buff, rip

[short night]

what can i do about the memory leaks? in zalissya my game just dies

[serene meteor]

yeah UE5 has definitely been trouble for every developer it seems

there are so many areas where the dip is just unreal (hence the name lol)

but I'm going to upgrade to a 5080 this year

[spare coral]

Use some engine.ini from nexus mods or wait for the next patch

[opaque moat]

UE5 is not in all games but the games that will run that engine will require mid/high tier CPU/GPU combo. alan wake 2 northlight engine is heavy too. so budget builds better buy games wisely.

[glass vault]

its a massive upgrade for productivity

[plucky quail]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/amd-claims-rx-7900-xtx-outperforms-rtx-4090-in-deepseek-benchmarks No way. Iwas just googling about how the inner works of the RDNA3. And i stumbled this article.

[tawny thicket]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-data-center-cpu-sales-hit-the-lowest-point-in-13-years

[agile harbor]

now that is bad

[plucky quail]

UFFF

Its even worst when we know that Intel still dont have a clear direction and no CEO.

[tawny thicket]

first thing im watching today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptUApTshik&t

[glass vault]

then nvidia claims 5090 beats it by double again. both articles are a pissing contest

[restive obsidian]

I'm having the best experience in this game so far on my Ryzen 7735HS/RTX 4060 Laptop and wanted to share my setup:

1. dlssg-to-fsr3. For some reason, the vanilla STALKER 2 only enables Nvidia Reflex (to reduce input lag) when using DLSS FG. This mod fixes that by replacing DLSS FG with FSR FG (yes, you'll need to select "DLSS FG" in the game settings, but it should work now with any GPU, I think?)
   2-1. Latest DLSS and Streamline
   -# I put everything together in this archive, just drop it into the game root folder, but you can also replace them yourself using DLSS Swapper and extracting Streamline from the official GitHub page (extract files from ...\bin\x64 without development folder into *game folder*\Engine\Plugins\Marketplace\Streamline\Binaries\ThirdParty\Win64)
   2-2. Forcing latest DLSS preset K using NVPI Revamped, screenshot
2. Ultra Plus mod
   -# Will slightly reduce fps, but greatly improves graphics and fix most of the stutters and some memory leaks

Here's my "benchmark and settings"
I'm getting really smooth frametime (~60-80 fps) outside of settlements and slightly choppy ~50-60 fps in settlements like Zalissya.

[tawny thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quhQXGnZ7CE

so Helldivers 2 got a PS5 Pro update

[hollow kettle]

That’s with frame Gen enabled? Anything less than 100 with frame Gen imo looks awful

Might as well not even use it if you don’t have base 60 fps maybe 50 but you’ll notice artifacts and “smearing” very prevalent anything lower

[restive obsidian]

Not that I have much of a choice with an average gaming laptop lol. Nonetheless, I personally prefer this over playing at ~25-40 FPS. DLSS FG would be ideal, but it doesn’t work too well in this game right now, it has pretty choppy frametime.

[woven copper]

why does compiling shaders take 15+ mins

[hard juniper]

stalker

[tawny thicket]

when did you start playing ?

(it could be from the game trying to load in the compiled shaders in the wrong way)

[agile harbor]

First ever launch of the game or after a GPU driver update, shader comp will take longer than normal. 15 minutes though... what CPU do you have?

[tawny thicket]

it can also be a good idea to download a "disable shader compile" mod

but you would have to uninstall the mod every time there is an update

[plucky quail]

XD

[plucky quail]

Does not DLSS FG work?

Sad to see but why not use FSR FG basic the same. Just need on FSR least 60FPS.

[restive obsidian]

It does, it just kinda sucks, at least if you have low base fps to begin with. Frametime is very choppy for me.

[tawny thicket]

IIRC 4060 laptop only has 6Gb and DL-FG uses more VRAM

[plucky quail]

Oh that makes sense why the Frame rate is all over

[restive obsidian]

It has 8, but it’s quite low already

[tawny thicket]

then i was wrong : #pc-specs message

[spare coral]

Some people use lossless scaling instead

[tawny thicket]

for me on my 6600 : 8Gb works fine for the most part

[plucky quail]

I think it would be fine with 45FPS and Motion blur for chill walking but i cant shoot with 45FPS XD. It must be a talent

[tawny thicket]

[(insert hide the pain harold meme)] it doesnt make the image softer it just doesnt know what to do with stuff it doesnt get motion vectors for

[agile harbor]

Doing a transplant of my ITX/5800x/rx6600 system into a much smaller case than the O11 Mini its in now. Case transplants are the cheap way to do "new" builds without spending the full amount.

Wanted the Jonsbo T6 because its just beautiful but the stupid XFX RX6600 is too long. Settling for the Jonsbo C6 instead.

Secondary PC so I'm going to pull the 360 AIO on it now and throw a PA120 Mini on the 5800x and run it in Eco mode.

[tawny thicket]

i have the XFX MERC , its smaller than my motherboard

could just be MITX stuff i guess

[agile harbor]

I have the SWFT 210. 240mm long and the Jonsbo T6 requires <= 215mm sadly. Its a really great looking little thing.

https://www.jonsbo.com/en/products/T6Black.html

[tawny thicket]

is that a triple fan thing ?

[agile harbor]

Ultimate goal, regain some desk space

[agile harbor]

Na https://www.xfxforce.com/shop/xfx-speedster-swft-210-amd-radeon-tm-rx-6600-core

[tawny thicket]

wait, no, i lied sorry

i actually have the SWFT version the same as you do

😅

[agile harbor]

ahh, ok. Yeah XFX's cards even the lower end ones are pretty long comparatively

not normally a problem, but when looking at SFF stuff...

[tawny thicket]

i see

[agile harbor]

The goal was just buy a case and use what I have. I have a spare AK620 cooler doing nothing and I'll see if that fits in the C6. If not, PA120Mini will fit the bill.

[tawny thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1QvRzPx2W4

im curious to see what the XTX can do when OC'd to the moon

[agile harbor]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-rx-7900-xtx-matches-rtx-4090-at-700w

speaking of RDNA3, I still think we haven't hit critical mass where RDNA3 and older owners fully realize they're not getting the improvements in FSR4

[tawny thicket]

OH

[tawny thicket]

i still have hopium that AMD can do a DP4A thing for FSR 4 or that they can make a lighter version that will run on RDNA 3/3.5

but its becoming less likely by the day

😕

[tawny thicket]

well make a version that doesnt run on fp8

[agile harbor]

its unfortunate. Nvidia made this decision to hardware accelerate it from day 1. AMD is just doing the same thing just 4 years later

[plucky quail]

Well that we dont know by the looks of it RDNA´3 can do AI

[tawny thicket]

the problem is that FSR 4 (supposedly) runs on fp8 which isnt supported by RDNA 3 (even)

[agile harbor]

Sure, but to the level they need to have FSR4 perform as it should? That's always the question

[tawny thicket]

it was shortsighted for AMD to not add AI cores to older RDNA cards

[plucky quail]

Yea but they can do a FP16 what is not far of there reach. Question is will they do the work?

[tawny thicket]

if they did,then we wouldnt be having this conversation right now : (

[tawny thicket]

i think the whole CDNA / RDNA split was shortsighted TBH

[plucky quail]

Yea it just need to perform as FSR3 and i thing it will be good

[tawny thicket]

if it performs like XeSS even...

[plucky quail]

I think RDNA4 runns on Accelerators too right?

[tawny thicket]

yeah,but those have fp8 instructions too

(and i think there are also more of them)

[plucky quail]

So 3 per Core?

[tawny thicket]

i think 4 or they are the same

[plucky quail]

7900XTX has 192 AI ACC

[plucky quail]

RDNA3 has 2 per core

[tawny thicket]

per *CU

🤓

[plucky quail]

Yea which is 1 COre 🤓

https://www.igorslab.de/en/ces-2025-amd-presents-rdna-4-fsr4-and-the-radeon-rx-9700-xt-and-rx-9700/

[tawny thicket]

which core ? there are lots.....

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1310248832478482544/1337157315073282088/image.png?ex=67a66c4b&is=67a51acb&hm=b5cb4df277f3ae9a90043f65681a8a1996d0b37e953c15509b2eafe8c61aed0f&

i've never seen this stuff before

[plucky quail]

Yea somthing same as Nvidia APP AI thing

Tbh never gonna use AMD AI ....

[tawny thicket]

it sounds cool

but it doesnt matter if they dont price it right........

[plucky quail]

I bet its gonna come day 1 out for RDNA3 or least some month later. Cuz that looks really ez to port to other gen cards

[tawny thicket]

IDK 🤷‍♂️ would RDNA 3 even run it? or does it just link to an AMD server ?

[plucky quail]

If its running local

[tawny thicket]

WDK 🤷‍♂️

[plucky quail]

If its cloud then any card

[tawny thicket]

yup

[plucky quail]

But there is a pic of a cloud that is crossed so prob local???

Just hope that that isnt pulling too much power out of the PC running background

[tawny thicket]

it hopefully doesnt run in the background

that would s*ck : )

[agile harbor]

Every time I test games on my RX6600 rig, I prefer XeSS when its available.

[tawny thicket]

i haven't had a single game where i prefer XeSS over FSR TBH

And i do see your point

[mild tusk]

went from a 8700k and 1080ti to this new 9800x3d and 7900xtx holy shit its night and day boys

[late ferry]

.jonredcorn has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky quail]

I would use XESS in Stalker but it dont need to and so i dont. Also i dont use any AA in stalker just cuz it looks really charp and in buildings its 10x better than with any AA ingame. Outside it kinda looks like my monitors pixel are dying but i dont mind that.

[mild tusk]

isnt this game rated mature lmao

[agile harbor]

Hopefully not with the old (presumably) 1080p monitor 🙈

[plucky quail]

XD yea

[mild tusk]

yes 2560x1080 I gotta turn on amd super resolution and render it at 2k and display at 1080

its like everyone forgot about supersampling when dlss came out

its like the complete opposite of upscaling

[agile harbor]

Well, that's still a thing but often we're chasing more performance, not less.

[mild tusk]

how about better image quality?

[agile harbor]

And DLDSR is a thing now too. Benefits up supersampling without the performance hit.

[plucky quail]

Yea nah i did use it in Stalker but that game uses too much power and so i did go back to 1440P (My monitor)

[mild tusk]

cause downsampling looks amazing

image is crispy af

[agile harbor]

And at least in Stalker 2, this isn't a game where you can afford to lose performance. (I'm on a 4090 at 4K and I still need all I can get)

[plucky quail]

XD This game is destorying PCs without doing anything insane

I get like 50-60FPS at 4K Native

Thats really bad for 1000$ card

[agile harbor]

I've changed my "setup" in S2 so many times now. Though now with DLSS Performance using the transformer model, i'm pretty happy with it. Prior to DLSS4, Performance was not acceptable.

[plucky quail]

Good that Transformer runns good on 4000 series. A 2080TI is dying with that setting.

[agile harbor]

Yeah I haven't really done any true back to back comparisons for performance, just been focusing on visuals. On that front, much improved.

[plucky quail]

I need to test it with my 2060 how that performs

[tawny thicket]

in STALKER 2 foliage more than 10 meters away is a blurry blob with XESS and TSR . and that takes me out of the experience

[tawny thicket]

Same sort of thing in satisfactory

[tawny thicket]

The overall environment is just so blurry that it takes me out of the experience

[tawny thicket]

While FSR doesn't do that

[plucky quail]

True I find FSR AA better than XESS AA but i think the Upscaling looks better on XESS. But just a bit like the Trees branch

[woven copper]

i just reinstalled. i got it right on launch

[plucky quail]

FSR 3.1 Come a long way

[tawny thicket]

AMD or NVIDIA?

[tawny thicket]

(GPU wise)

[woven copper]

nvidia. im launching it for the 2nd time seems to be going significantly faster

[tawny thicket]

Then it should be fine

[plucky quail]

Whats DLDSR? Only knows as DSR

[tawny thicket]

Thats normal

[tawny thicket]

NVIDIA slapped AI over DSR which made it worse IMO

[plucky quail]

So DLSS but just Upscale from native?

So is my 1440P putting a 4K Image?

[tawny thicket]

XeSS always has better fine detail reconstruction

[plucky quail]

Wonder how much AMD will play Nvidia after if now they are using AI in the newest FSR

[tawny thicket]

No it renders at a higher resolution then uses AI to downsample it (DSR does the just without AI)

[agile harbor]

DSR and DLDSR are essentially the same up until the point where they render at a higher resolution but the similarities end there. While DSR applies "a high-quality (Gaussian) filter" as per Nvidia, to make the higher resolution image fit within the monitor, DLDSR uses some sort of machine learning filter for this task. This way, DLDSR manages to address a fundamental issue with DSR, which is uneven scaling. To better explain this we need to take a look first at how to enable DSR and DLDSR.

[plucky quail]

Ah ok to fit it in frame ok

[tawny thicket]

Lmao

Context : i said this with a screenshot attached that show the core count difference between the 4070 S and 5070 : here is me realizing the 5070 might not even be as fast as the 4070 super

[tawny thicket]

And that's the response i got

[plucky quail]

AMD could do its own take with RRC but i would much rather see them do something diff so there are more Ideas on the table and option. But we know AMD

[plucky quail]

Yea i am hoping its not but kinda bad at lower end. And just imagine the price on launch

[tawny thicket]

Scalpers are gonna ruin it

[plucky quail]

But ey its 4090 Experience right?

Why not pay 400$ over MSRP

[tawny thicket]

With 2X the latency

[plucky quail]

600$ cheaper than 4090. Thats the way to see it

You know XeSS 2 is out but i did till now see no vid about it

[tawny thicket]

No SDK yet and its in 2 games aaaaannndd its the third FI algorithm so no point in covering it IMO

[plucky quail]

Let me swap the DLL quick. IDK if they also updated the fallback

[plucky quail]

Well tested XeSS FSR and TSR at 8K and all have there issues at 33% res.(FPS 35-45FPS

Also 4K with 66% (60-75FPS)

While Xess looks really sharp it has really big problem when moving in artifacts. Also Ghosting is there like the same way when using DLSS Performance (CNN)

TSR Looked also bit sharper but less than Xess. It had also less artifacts and the same way as Xess while moving was the place where its loosing his poins as Upscaler. Some foliage had like cluster of Oil. I tested it on near by Bush. But overall okish.

FSR was the best stable looking but looked more Blured or lost detail on tree branch.

[flint spoke]

idk what you mean man, I play on my montior with 27ms latency, they both feel great

*/s *

[plucky quail]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-promises-full-details-on-radeon-rx-9070-series-soon

75-100$ cheaper than 5070! And that comes from the marketing chief.

[coarse linden]

Until Nvidias new sexy AI rendering shenanigans get utilized

Kinda looks like that RTX 50 series just might age tad better if these neural rendering shenanigans get utilized

Which also means AMD gets caught with pants down again if that happens

Kinda sad how AMD doesnt really innovate anything sexy for gamers anymore

[tawny thicket]

Well the 5070 = half a 4090 also means 2x latency,that's what i meant

[tawny thicket]

I've never seen FSR to be burier than XeSS

[flint spoke]

yea, I was just poking fun at the endless fg debate we've had in here lol

where people report totally different experiences

[hollow kettle]

Xess definitely better than fsr in cyberpunk

But other than that, yeah fsr usually better unless you have Intel gpu. Which I have never met anyone irl that does lol

[tawny thicket]

2077 is 2077 : )

[plucky quail]

Prob cuz I tested in 4 and 8k

[tawny thicket]

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-15900k-appears-on-geekbench/

Prolly meteor late

[tawny thicket]

#scam ?

well someone deleted it

[wary totem]

Yeah

[late ferry]

froztedtips has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

naughty naughty

[tawny thicket]

thanks for getting rid of it 👍

[plucky quail]

But that gonna be seen how its gonna play out. 20 Series for RT is also not something you could or would use. We dont know when it will be here and it could be just a minor improvement like we see in Mega Geometry. The same way we would not buy AMDs RDNA3 cuz it could have FSR4.

[tawny thicket]

ALL THE E-CORES
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-nova-lake-preliminary-desktop-specs-list-52-cores-16p32e4lp-configuration

also "ERROR LAKE REFRESH?????!!!!"

[tawny thicket]

i mean : cinebench accelerators

[coarse linden]

Theres more to it then just mega geometry

[plucky quail]

Yea i know i was just talking about Mega Geometry being disappointing and doing almost nothing in the Process. Its out btw

[plucky quail]

Wait LP meaing Low low power lower than E cores?

[tawny thicket]

Yeup

[plucky quail]

The Die must be Huge

[tawny thicket]

more cinebench accelerators

[plucky quail]

XD

[plucky quail]

Or Shader Compiler Accelerators

[coarse linden]

Yeah Intel lost the plot completely

Got infected with AMD's old "mOaR cOreS"

[plucky quail]

I think they did hold for so long cores back like a pipe under pressure that now its broken and they are shooting cores left and right.

[tawny thicket]

with AMDs moar cores thing the added cores actually mattered, but here ? what does the avarage person gain from having 52 cores ?

[coarse linden]

Actually mattered? Bulldozer's core?

FX series was crap

[tawny thicket]

i meant ZEN

[coarse linden]

That meme was dead by the Zen came

[tawny thicket]

not FX

[plucky quail]

The thing its if its really efficient the LP core. Like really good you could use it as Running idle. But like who does have a problem with intel in Idle? Intel gets bad press by the huge amount of Power usage while doing something.

[tawny thicket]

the LP cores might not even be able to run win-dowes

and are also 100% a sceduling nightmare

[plucky quail]

Yea that would be what i would imagine but Intel does something smart like APO that till now is really good. But for now its just for games.

And that is like 15 there so not much.

[glass vault]

Just wait till AMD brings out the 32core Ryzen 9

Curious if it's gonna be zen c cores or all full fat cores

[tawny thicket]

if the ZEN 6 leaks are true : they can be full fat cores

but they could also use ZEN C cores

[glass vault]

Their c cores are still monsters. In laptops at least

[glass vault]

Based tormenting for the win

[tawny thicket]

Intels efficiancy cores doing some heavy lifting
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457105940844380160/1337532541795831928/image.png?ex=67a7c9c0&is=67a67840&hm=6468f5c2e4789763e4abed70b1f04ae18b7fc4c8f30d012623f42785eafecf6c&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457105940844380160/1337532542114332783/Screenshot_2025-01-30_232032.png?ex=67a7c9c0&is=67a67840&hm=b3e7dc1f6720c118d4f1f6c97e05ca08a9b0a3ec715494215c7fc78b7d86d306&

Im getting flashbacks
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-300s-hx-arrow-lake-refresh-reportedly-back-on-a-table

[plucky quail]

Wait if pantherlake is amost here does this mean that we will get 1.8nm?

[sweet void]

Hmm

Why yall talking offtopic here

[glass vault]

Intel is gonna have to be a big increase for nova lake 48c 48thread compared to AMD which will have 64 threads.

[glass vault]

Computer related.

[tawny thicket]

Its On topic actually

[glass vault]

this is the pc nerd channel now

[hollow kettle]

Is dlss 4 working in stalker 2 yet? Like without using anything extra to make it work

I know nvidia app was saying unsupported before

[glass vault]

Nvidia app only allows games if they get whitelisted. Can you an app like dlss swapper

[hollow kettle]

But didn’t they have stalker 2 listed as one of the first to get dlss 4 support ?

I remember cyberpunk and Indiana jones being on the list I saw for sure

[glass vault]

pretty sure i was. but ohwell

[hollow kettle]

Do you guys think I should get AMD gpu or save for longer to get a nvidia gpu? I have a 4060 right now. Nothing else needs upgraded (other than another 16gb stick of ram) since I have i5-13600kf and a 750w psu. I only have $200 saved but could get another $200 within a month or two. Not sure what I should try to get

I also only have 1080p monitor but can eventually upgrade that also. I just want something that will last at least 5 years

[woeful umbra]

@flat brook I can now run Stalker 2 on all epic with a solid fps above 80 holy craparoni

[flat brook]

Hell yeah brother, enjoy!

[hazy idol]

I run it on medium settings and I'm blown away by some of the visuals so on epic settings it must be 10x better you lucky bastard lol. Good hunting stalker.

[woeful umbra]

I don't think i've fully grasped what I now own but I jumped from a rtx 2060 to a 4070ti Super.

Basically I jumped from low/medium to epic. It's almost stupid

[hazy idol]

oh hey I have a 2060 super lmao

it's done a very good job for me so far, but I probably need to look at upgrading soon

[loud prism]

Welcome to the club

[woeful umbra]

Hell yeah, thank you😁

[loud prism]

And Stalker 2 makes any gpu cry, wait until you play something else, that's the real framerates. If you don't play another UE5 title that is

[woeful umbra]

Yeah I can't wait to try Kingdom Come 2. Gonna hold that one off until hardcore mode drops because I love to suffer

Now imma suffer on epic settings

[loud prism]

Apparently it's pretty well optimized. Well, anything that isn't UE5 and trying to be photorealistic nowadays could be considered well optimized relatively speaking

[woeful umbra]

Crazy how when a game releases in a playable state people lose their mind over it.

Imma say it idc if I sound like and old fart. It was better pre internet because then all devs had to make a finished product because there were no way to update the product sold to consumers

[loud prism]

ikr

Because it's so rare now

[coarse linden]

I mean making games back then cost pennies compared to now

[loud prism]

Budgets are higher too

[coarse linden]

Risk is lot bigger

5 - 7 years no income for studio while they make a game

Budget will run out eventually

[loud prism]

I mean there is no excuse, they did it before

[coarse linden]

Because games were easier to make

[loud prism]

So what ? Release too early and alienate your fanbase and you will have lost your bet. Better take your time and release a good, playable game

[loud prism]

But there is more people, more budget, more time, better tooling

[coarse linden]

Its either release the game early or shut down studio for most

Big scrubs instead cancel and write if off on taxes if they dont hit deadlines since they can take the hit

[coarse linden]

More people isnt always better. "Too many cooks in the kitchen"

[loud prism]

If games being more difficult to make had just the cost of bigger development time, sure. But unplayable on release after waiting half a decade or more on top of that ? What were we waiting so long for then ?

[coarse linden]

Im not saying that you should buy those games. Im just saying that there are logical reasons behind why they shat out that slop

[loud prism]

That's project management and planning, not a consequence of harder to make games

[loud prism]

Oh yeah I know that, working on the same code as someone else at the same time is the worst

[loud prism]

Well I might buy them, but not on pre orders anymore, got burned twice with BFV and 2042

[coarse linden]

Funnily enough you know what will happen when we demand them to take longer?

[loud prism]

Got Stalker 2 because it seemed decent enough and was craving way too much stalker after finishing the trilogy

[coarse linden]

Game price will go up to compensate

Investors dont really like casino business

[loud prism]

I don't want it, but it's already a miracle they haven't gone up on PC in what, more than a decade ?

[plucky quail]

The leaks look promising of RDNA4 so you could buy such card. Apparently its gonna be 400$ the 9070 non XT. But still take it with grain of salt cuz its just pricing. It can change so fast.

[plucky quail]

Least with BFV it got good in the very end.

[loud prism]

But then they abandoned it and it's essentially an incomplete game. Where is Stalingrad, D-Day, battle of the bulge ? But yeah rush on Iwo jima is peak battlefield.

[plucky quail]

I think they never would have made any Known Battlefield. They where full in to unknown battlefields

[hollow kettle]

Idk if I really want to get rid of benefits of 40 series now that I have experienced them tbh lol it’s such a hard decision

[late ferry]

sqepticism has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow kettle]

I’d really be happy with just a slightly used 4070

Actually Amazon shows 4070 in stock new

[plucky quail]

Oh if you want used than any card is good.

[loud prism]

I just wanted modern 1942 man 😭

[plucky quail]

They got the one bf1942 Map the Island i can remember the name

[hollow kettle]

Rtx 3080 FTW3 for $600 on Amazon? Is this a good deal

PNY 4070ti is $1,800 what the heck

3080 is only 10gb vram not worth it

[plucky quail]

But yea i was so happy where BFV was going with the Japan DLC but they just after it dropped the game for dog shit game.

[plucky quail]

Yea Comes what kind of games you play but many AAA game use def more then that.

[loud prism]

Wake island

[plucky quail]

Yes

[plucky quail]

You will not find any good priced New GPU.

Least form Nvidia. AMD has many even 6000 Gen. Prob if you can get 5070?? 5060 prob will come with 8GB vram so no option.

[hollow kettle]

Yeah I know I just can’t believe that 4070ti is $1,800 when there is a 4070ti super for $1,400

I think my best bet will be to continue saving and try to get a 5070. And if I can’t then explore amd options when they launch

Unless I find a good deal on 4070 but I’m not holding my breath

[plucky quail]

Prob they will scalp it. But i would not look for the features if AMD will give you a real gen upgrate for the same price. Question is do you want 4080 Perfromance or use DLSS all the time to get that Performance.

[hollow kettle]

I will only be playing at 1080p for awhile anyway

So performance with anything better than xx60 will be great for me even without dlss I think

Is the 7700xt like a 4060ti performance ?

[plucky quail]

Well better than 4060TI

14% faster roughly

[serene meteor]

I'm stuck with a 4060 ti sooner in the summer or so gonna try to uprgade to a RX 6800 XT or settle with a 3080 ti

[glass vault]

Wouldn't go back to 30 series. Better bet to find a good deal on a 4070 or go with mid range 50 series for the reason of new technology support that isn't available on 30 series

Since we are now getting driver level frame gen for 40 and up it's a nice feature

[tawny thicket]

I suggest waiting to see what AMD does with their next gen

[serene meteor]

Yeah ima do that see how the 9070 series gonna be since the 6800 xt is like 3070 which made me go eh

[glass vault]

Better to find 7000 or 40 series after prices settle with 50 series.

[tawny thicket]

A rare thing AMD did before NVIDIA

[glass vault]

Nvidia would've done it earlier. But didn't since optical flow was done in the game rather than outside via driver.

[tawny thicket]

Why 7000 and 40 series instead of next gen?

[serene meteor]

ima have a look out for deals i think during the summer gonna have some good deals i do like the 7800 xt a lot

4070 super sold out where I'm at

[glass vault]

Better if on a budget. And 50 series will be expensive for a few months. Also MSRP seems to not mean shit for any model other than fe

[serene meteor]

my only dislike with the 50 series is them having force a.i

[glass vault]

If you want to pay 3500 for a 5090 or 1500 for a 5080 sure. But very few boards are msrp

[tawny thicket]

But AMDs next gen????? Whatever

[glass vault]

No clue on msrp or anything. Can't really tell people to buy AMDs 9070 when it's all up in the air and no hard numbers

[serene meteor]

9070 and gpus probably gonna cost 600 dollars who knows

[tawny thicket]

I wasn't saying to buy them, all i said was to wait for the announcement

[serene meteor]

gonna have to upgrade my psu for that as well with the gpu

[tawny thicket]

I might have to do that too

[glass vault]

I didn't even say buy now. Its gonna be a few months anyways before stock fills the demand. And 90 class seems like July or later which is wild

[serene meteor]

my psu is 650 w starting to age lol

[tawny thicket]

Mine is 550w

[glass vault]

Really wish more 5090 FEs were being shipped. Yeah definitely upgrade that Psu to a 850 or 1000 if you plan to do anything higher end. 3080ti would gobble the entire psu

[serene meteor]

750 W for 44 dollars on sale where I'm at i might try to snag it

nvm na is to weak

[glass vault]

Man when did PSUs get so expensive 850w is 100 is wild. I swore I bought my evga unit for roughly 80$

[serene meteor]

800 W cost like 150 dollars in texas lol is ridiculous

i miss the days when psu was cheap easy to get looks like ima wait on summer sells

[glass vault]

Honestly I feel the best bet is go to physical stores and wait for an open box or liquidation sale

[serene meteor]

good idea

[glass vault]

Open box I trust microcenter for. But read the description some are missing more cables than others

[plucky quail]

Least we know that there are 9070s in stores already and i think launch should be right after announcements #else the gpus are doing nothing

[plucky quail]

Guys i am hyped of AMDs next 12C per CCD CPUs. And 12C+V cache. That would be king of the hill for the next foreseeable Future.

[tawny thicket]

ZEN 6 is still miles away...

[tawny thicket]

Im curious......

[plucky quail]

Like Always? In games that can do RT?

[tawny thicket]

i intended it as a : do you **ever **use **hardware **RT ? sort of thing

[plucky quail]

Do you ever get the trigger when seeing water irl reflecting stuff and you think: HA Ray tracing 🙂

[tawny thicket]

yes lol

[uneven portal]

not Always

Practically only five games truly make RTX worth using in terms of cost-to-performance. It's astonishing that no game has yet reached the level of Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition in terms of both performance and RTX implementation.

[tawny thicket]

i tried HW RT once

in hogwarts legacy
it looked like shit

[tawny thicket]

literally made the game look worse

[serene meteor]

Does anyone else has flickering shadows, i have a AMD system, i tried many settings/steps, issue still persists.

[uneven portal]

In Wukong, Lumen looks much worse than full ray tracing. It's incredible how Lumen only serves to save time in lighting development and doesn't really have a reason to exist.

[tawny thicket]

i think thats just from wukongs lumen implementation

like ARK smear ascended looks much better than wukongs full PT mode IMO

[uneven portal]

Well, Stalker repeats those mistakes.

[tawny thicket]

i also have an AMD GPU,and i have never had this issue🤔

[serene meteor]

also ryzen CPU?

[uneven portal]

For me, I never saw Lumen perform well in reflections, shadows, transitions between dark and bright environments, etc...

[tawny thicket]

yup,CPU shouldnt effect visuals

[tawny thicket]

well i'll admit i have also never seen it look good in those situations

but it overall looks fine for the most part IMO

[uneven portal]

"It doesn't look that good for the performance it requires."

[tawny thicket]

though HW lumen reflections look great

SW lumen reflections look like sh*t

[tawny thicket]

though it certainly performs WAY better than PT does

[uneven portal]

where¿

[tawny thicket]

like i bet when you used PT in wukong you got -60% your fps or something

[tawny thicket]

everywhere ?🤷‍♂️

[uneven portal]

Well, you don't have to use PT, just the lighter version of RtX to make it look better.

[tawny thicket]

you meant RTGI ?

[uneven portal]

I’d prefer almost anything else

[tawny thicket]

is your problem that its just noisy ?

[uneven portal]

The reflections, the loading time of the lighting, everything, I notice it a lot. I love classic games so much that I can’t handle that graphic instability.

[tawny thicket]

alright,well,fair.

i think that HW lumen would make those much better though

especially the reflections

[uneven portal]

I think they don't just use Lumen for everything, like in Stalker.

[tawny thicket]

SW lumen reflections are just a disgrace
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1337811927220621334/Screenshot20250208-16441300000.png?ex=67a8cdf2&is=67a77c72&hm=3753378c89b8d07166a2761051cee08233344ae26c0dd7991b173746e4a65fb0&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1337811927983853650/Screenshot20250208-16441700000.png?ex=67a8cdf2&is=67a77c72&hm=b47146c72336b7450274ae1215a142d9530a81be2dc0a4a32b8fed6ecd032d79&

[uneven portal]

ps2

[woeful umbra]

Can someone explain to me in unga bunga the importance with having a good pairing between a cpu and gpu?

[tawny thicket]

"unga bunga"
point is to not have a CPU/GPU that you cant take full advangate of BC your CPU/GPU is slowing the other down so much that its practicly asleep
is this explanation "unga bunga" enough ?

[woeful umbra]

I need more unga bunga

[tawny thicket]

dont spend 1000€ on a crazy good CPU and then only get a GT 710 for GPU

BC your CPU will be asleep

and you would have wasted money

[tawny thicket]

BC it wont want to put up with your incompetent GPU

[woeful umbra]

If I give you the names of my gpu and cpu can you be a wizard and tell me how compatible they are

[uneven portal]

yea?

[tawny thicket]

uhh sure

[woeful umbra]

Intel Core i5-10400F

Rtx 4070ti super

[spare coral]

Crazy bottleneck

[uneven portal]

wtf you need at least a i5 12400

[spare coral]

That gpu would be sleeping 24/7 during games

[tawny thicket]

i'd say that CPU is underpowered for a 4070 Super TIE

[spare coral]

Need a beefier cpu if you have a beefy gpu its just how it is

[tawny thicket]

and in Stalker for egxample you'll get like 20fps BC of that CPU

[uneven portal]

You need to update the motherboard and processor. It would also be good if you told us how much RAM you have.

[spare coral]

Inb4 8gbs

[woeful umbra]

But when I play stalker 2 I get a solid 60+ with all epic on.

32gb ram

[uneven portal]

solid...

[spare coral]

I doubt it
Maybe with framegen i guess lol

[tawny thicket]

you 100% have Frame gen turned on then

[woeful umbra]

Is that "fsr"?

[uneven portal]

my head

[tawny thicket]

another excample:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1337815103730356255/Screenshot20250208-16575200000.png?ex=67a8d0e8&is=67a77f68&hm=67fb0a2d965c0a830bdd1a585469a96587af6d59d5d22dc66caf1b1b8d669cf7&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1337815407582515200/Screenshot20250208-16595000000.png?ex=67a8d130&is=67a77fb0&hm=208c51638475e80785e917390127860679f82a773d4f9bbac3fc00b9bbdb2456&

[spare coral]

Fsr 3.1? Yeah (stalker devs forgot to add framegen to the name)

[woeful umbra]

Yes thats on

[uneven portal]

then you have 30 fps

[tawny thicket]

then turn it off perhaps

[spare coral]

Then yeah
You dont have solid 60fps

[tawny thicket]

and then you will see what your actuall FPS is

[woeful umbra]

Ah, I see. So what's bad about using framegen? Since im supposed to turn it off?

[hard juniper]

latency

you can use it if you want but at low frame rates you'll get crazy latency and smearing

[late ferry]

dariount has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[spare coral]

It add a ton of latency and the image loses clarity if you dont have 60fps without it already (lol which one got me censored)

[tawny thicket]

A : below 30fps FSR FG has noricable artifacts
B: it increases latency
but it does make the game look smoother

[uneven portal]

Frame gen is the least important thing. What's important is that you understand that because you're using that processor, you're not enjoying the game at the performance your graphics card should be delivering.

[tawny thicket]

not nessesarily smearing,but there are artifacts

[hard juniper]

yeah should've said artifacts mb

[tawny thicket]

👆

[spare coral]

Its like using super tiny shoes when your feet is too big
Imagine thats how your gpu feels while you play

[woeful umbra]

This is the unga bunga explaination I was looking for

[spare coral]

Your cpu would be 100% but the gpu would be at like 60% or less

[uneven portal]

Instead of running a marathon, your graphics card trips up, especially in Stalker 2, where the game is optimized like crap.

[tawny thicket]

the GPU is that friend who has to help its friend who didnt study for its math test in this case

[spare coral]

I have a 11400 and rostok kills my cpu even with framegen on it doesnt get 60fps if i try it there

[tawny thicket]

you dont get 60 fps W FG ? wut

[spare coral]

Nope

[woeful umbra]

So since im using intel cpu should I upgrade to a new intel or does it matter?

[spare coral]

It doesnt matter
You can go amd those are better for games

[tawny thicket]

IDK how much more demanding rostok is but here is how much i got on my R5 5600G + 6600 (W FG)
first settlement
66 avg
42 1%
32 0.1%

[tawny thicket]

i think you are looking at a motherboard upgrade either way so i suggest you go AMD

[spare coral]

My rx 6700 and i5 11400 gets 90+ with framegen on usually
On settlements its 60
And in rostok is 40

[tawny thicket]

preferably RYZEN 7000 or 9000 series wichever one is cheaper

[tawny thicket]

hmm 🤔
well here is how much i get when im not in a settlement
HIGH preset 1080p FSR Q FG:ON

wilderness
94 avg
77 1%
7 0.1%

HIGH preset 1080p FSR Q FG:OFF

wilderness
50 avg
37 1%
25 0.1%

first settlement
32 avg
16 1%
13 0.1%

[spare coral]

I play on native so there is that

[woeful umbra]

If y'all havent noticed im a utter noob at this.

Why does the motherboard need upgrading?

[tawny thicket]

BC the best CPU that can fit into that motherboard wouldnt be fast enough

[uneven portal]

ultra preset 1080p fg: off 4080 i7 13 = 50 fps first settlement

[tawny thicket]

and your motherboard has to be compatible with whatever CPU you want

[spare coral]

Amd cpus uses different motherboards
Also every 2 or 3 cpu gens need you to change your motherboard cause it isnt compatible anymore

[woeful umbra]

I see

[spare coral]

Who built you that frankenstein pc with a 4070ti and a i5 10400

[tawny thicket]

with what CPU ? 🤔

[uneven portal]

yea

With the Ultra+ mod, it reaches around 65, but without mods, it runs terribly

[tawny thicket]

what CPU do you got ?

[spare coral]

Which i7

[woeful umbra]

Bought a pre-built a couple years back. Upgraded just yesterday the psu, ram and gpu

[tawny thicket]

just realized that he did write I7....

[uneven portal]

i7-13700

[spare coral]

Damn you wasted money on the ram cause you will need to change the cpu, motherboard and ram anyway 😭

[tawny thicket]

ohh

[spare coral]

Also i5 10400 max speed for ram is 2666 i think?

[uneven portal]

yea i think XD

[tawny thicket]

another reason for why i didnt go intel.....

[woeful umbra]

Is this because of the motherboard that doesn't fit intel cpu also doesn't fit certain ram sticks?

[uneven portal]

Really, back then AMD was garbage.

[spare coral]

New cpus need new ram
If you buy a current intel or amd cpu they use ddr5 ram now
You have ddr4

[tawny thicket]

with RYEN 5000 and ZEN 3 ??????

WTH are you talking about ?

[uneven portal]

here (shiti spain) until just a few generations ago, it wasn't worth buying AMD, not because of anything else, but because of the price

[spare coral]

I dont think ryzen 5000 was out yet when the 10400 came out anyway
It was out for the 11400 tho

[uneven portal]

"Ryzen 5 3600 was the direct competitor, I believe."

[tawny thicket]

IDK why you'd type your previous comment up then, as that seems like a regional pricing problem

[uneven portal]

Well, because it depends on the region. In those generations from a few years ago, AMD wasn't usually a good option.

Everything depends on the price, not like now, where the 14th gen of Intel is dying on its own.

[tawny thicket]

okay....

[woeful umbra]

I don't need the newest cpu though. Just one that is a good pair to the gpu.

Are you saying my gpu needs the newest motherboard, cpu and ddr5 to reach full potential?

[spare coral]

A recent one at least yeah
Ryzen 7000 or ryzen 9000 need ddr 5

I would say a ryzen 7600 or 7700 would be good for your 4070ti

[woeful umbra]

And a 7600 need ddr5?

[tawny thicket]

yes

every RYZEN 7000 and 9000 series CPU needs DDR 5

[woeful umbra]

Damn

[tawny thicket]

(proper way to phrase that is : every CPU present on AM 5 needs DDR 5)

[woeful umbra]

Well thanks for the help fellas

Im a bit more educated

[tawny thicket]

i'll advertise this vote cuz i can
#pc-specs message

[woeful umbra]

Before I go, if you wizards here would be kind to point me to a motherboard and a cpu that is a good match for my 4070ti super but also the cheapest possible choice?

I will pluck a hair from my beard in your name

[hollow kettle]

What is Hardware Ray Tracing?

[tawny thicket]

Ray tracing that is accelarated by your GPU
TLDR : any RT other than Lumen

[hollow kettle]

I am not familiar with any of that I thought there was just Ray tracing and path tracing lol

Idk how to know the difference. But I rarely ever use Ray tracing bc well 4060

[hollow kettle]

Doesn’t games like Indiana jones and stalker have built in ray tracing? Cant disable it at all can you? Or is that what Lumen is

[tawny thicket]

indiana jones has hardware RT while Stalker only has Lumen (and i dont count SW lumen as RT)

[hollow kettle]

Well that’s crazy bc Indiana Jones runs infinitely better than stalker 2 does for me.

Low textures high everything else indiana jones I get 100+ fps. Stalker medium textures high/med everything else I get about 50-60 in slag heap. Without frame Gen in either game

So this lumen crap more demanding than RT??

[tawny thicket]

indiana jones is incredibly well optimized

[hollow kettle]

Man imagine if every dev put that much effort into optimization..a man can dream

Instead we get them taking the easy route using the flaming turd pile that is unreal engine

Or they don’t have money or time to make their own engine. Whatever the case. I still hate unreal engine with a passion for the ptsd it has given me. I hope & pray cdpr makes something good out of it to redeem it for me

[plucky quail]

But that game also runns ass. They should never used lumen and instead use HWRT and baked in

[plucky quail]

No maybe reinstall Game or clean the pc of drivers and make a new clean install

[plucky quail]

So you use the most of your PC. Imagine you got a 5090 and a I5 12600K. U will mostly never use your GPU 100% and have maybe under 60FPS performance.(Also works otherway). So that you use what you payed 100% out you would need to balance your CPU/GPU accordingly to you needs. Like lets say you only play CS2 or Fortnite where you need really good CPU but you just need the GPU to be really low end even 3 Gen old one to run the game to the Max. If you only play AAA games you would need more GPU power than CPU power and so you can pay less on the CPU and more on the GPU. And if you do both you will most likely need both. It always comes to maximizing the things you payed for.

[plucky quail]

Is that new or you are just adding the GPU?

[plucky quail]

No it was before called FG but changed it first update. IDK why lol

[plucky quail]

I had some lately but there was some frame time issue where every time i throw Bolts it stuttered.

[hollow kettle]

Nvidia app optimized settings for stalker 2. Everything high except foliage quality is Low with dlss quality and FG…I don’t think that’s very optimized compared to my current settings lol

[plucky quail]

Yea not really a card for RT the same with 4070 it has just not enough Vram and all the 70 cards with 12GB. The same with AMD least on them you kinda get more Vram but does not beat Nvidia just cuz of that.

[hollow kettle]

I can play with Ray tracing just get crashes occasionally. I assume bc vram maxes

Usually around 7.6gb but jumps to 7.8 occasionally

[plucky quail]

Any 7000 CPU from AMD or 9000. Better if you have money for one of 3D chips. Like the cheapest comes at 300$ 7600X3D it should be cheaper by now so it should be form Meh to Good now.

[plucky quail]

Yea that s full Vram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCmJCl8_MU Dual GPU just to get the AFMF 2 Feature

[hollow kettle]

I wanted to test nvidia optimized auto settings In indiana jones. They almost blew up my computer lol

[tawny thicket]

i soppuse "optimized" = MAX STTINGS**!!!!!!**

including PT : )

[hollow kettle]

Medium textures
All RT off
Max everything else
lol

[tawny thicket]

oh

[hollow kettle]

I just turned textures to low and kept every other setting max and kept RT off. Now getting 100+ fps 7.6gb vram usage. Which is the exact same as with RT on?

[plucky quail]

Was FG on?

[hollow kettle]

But you can’t even launch the game with 8gb gpu on anything higher than medium texture. Medium is also way too much. Just in main menu was 7.8gb vram usage

[hollow kettle]

No. FG off

[plucky quail]

https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/rank-charts

[tawny thicket]

WTH

[plucky quail]

Chart of Ranked GPUs

[glass vault]

i like how the arc a380 is below intels intergrated graphics

[tawny thicket]

i like how the every AMD GPU below the RX 7700 XT is below AMDs intergrated graphics

[tawny thicket]

(cuz : strix halo)

[glass vault]

pretty sure strix halo doesn't beat the 7700xt

[tawny thicket]

well it doesnt

i think im gonna make a coorection

[glass vault]

i think it beat the 4070 laptop tho

[tawny thicket]

*6700 XT

[tawny thicket]

AMD claimed like 40% better than that

[glass vault]

got their strix point its good but gonna be interesting to see strix halo

i got 16 graphics cores compared to strix halo's 32-40

[tawny thicket]

oh, you have a strix laptop ?

[glass vault]

yeah hx 370

[glass vault]

so far its really nice. gpu isn't insane but shit is so snappy for a 4k screen

[tawny thicket]

how's battery life?

[glass vault]

When demanding like gaming 2-3 hours but using it for taking notes I can make it last the whole day

I think the Asus vivobook is also tdp limited to a pretty low one

[tawny thicket]

oh nice!

my 5300 U lenovo laptop lasts about 5-6 hours if im using it

[cloud bluff]

Best settings for ryzen 5600x 3080ti

[spare coral]

All low
Fg on

[tawny thicket]

(dario is trolling)

high preset should be fine even at 1440p

[glass vault]

Pretty sure it's like 25-40w tdp total

[cloud bluff]

1080p

[glass vault]

Medium 1440p works best for me. Had some issues at high at launch due to memory leak. So try high and if it stutters go to medium

[hollow kettle]

BenchmarKing optimized settings video is the best imo. I always use his graphic settings

Just to learn what settings are most impactful on hardware mostly

[cloud bluff]

Idk if this also matters, but I’m also using proton on Linux

[spare coral]

It shouldnt

[plucky quail]

Maybe some FPS that gonna miss

[hollow kettle]

Holy crap I finally maxed out my cpu..installing shaders for stalker 2 got it to 97% usage 83 Celsius. Nothing I have done has ever had it over 65% usage and about 65-70 Celsius

These intake fans are good. I can feel the air getting sucked in with my hand like 6 inches away

Haven’t played in awhile but before shader compile only took less than one minute. This time it took almost 3 minutes

[lofty badge]

R7 7700X and rx 7900xtx and game is 💀 unreal xD

[hard juniper]

unreal optimisation

[lofty badge]

Unreal engine is killing games

[hollow kettle]

My game is running okay. Little better than it did before. But I still haven’t made it out further than garbage zone and lesser zone

[lofty badge]

Better for you

[hollow kettle]

This is first time I played in a month

[lofty badge]

If you get to pripyat prepare some bread, bc ur pc is going to be a toaster

[hollow kettle]

Im currently getting 100-120 fps in slag heap with frame Gen enabled

Goes up to 130-150 or so out in the wilderness

[lofty badge]

Yeah but frame gen sucks

[hollow kettle]

Are cutscenes capped ?

[lofty badge]

The delay is real

[hollow kettle]

Dlss frame Gen is the only way for me to play this game smoothly. If I turn it off even at ~60 fps there is tons of micro stutters and choppy gameplay. None with frame Gen on. It’s weird

I don’t even notice the input latency with reflex enabled

I am thinking about purchasing lossless scaling on steam to try it in helldivers 2. But I doubt it will be better than dlss in other games

[tawny thicket]

what is your problem ?

[plucky quail]

Getting only 4K 50FPS while other games run at 100FPS XD

[tawny thicket]

well....

[hollow kettle]

I just sold like 6 guns to Huron at slag heap and now I can’t do anything. Game isn’t frozen but when I tried to exit his shop menu my HUD disappeared and game not responding to my inputs

Had to bring up task manager to force quit game. Glad I quick saved just before selling those guns

[hazy idol]

oh I've been getting that bug, hitting the interact key will sometimes trigger dialogue that will bring back the HUD

so far I've had it happen with the traders in Rostok

[wooden rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209378470925176902/1337920222610456708/image.png?ex=67a932ce&is=67a7e14e&hm=4d44b0023a1db2b6caf8766c38377f31c935b539c0fc37faf2ce9e8f17fffdf4&

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anyway. 9800X3D one step closer to godhood

[tawny thicket]

we are still being treated as second class citizens

this is NOT FAIR!!!

[flint spoke]

yea those are the best running areas probably

tho imo the bigger issue is lack of content outside of lesserzone/garbage/zaton but

[tawny thicket]

even I

(im level *26)

but im still considered a second class citizen....

[wooden rapids]

7900XTX, 9800X3D 64GB CL30 ddr5

All for 1440p 360hz oled, this should last me at least a decade

[hard juniper]

optimistic

if games keep forcing ray tracing that thing isn't gonna age very well

[tawny thicket]

especially since NVDIAs path tracer doesnt utilize AMDs RT cores......

[hard juniper]

yeahh

glad i switched back to nvidia, feels way safer

[tawny thicket]

well,if AMD doesnt price next gen right....

i might get my first ever NVIDIA GPU

[wooden rapids]

Arguably, my biggest mistake is settling for 1440p instead of 4k

[tawny thicket]

[wooden rapids]

Gentlemen,

It’s official, 9800X3D crisis is over

[hollow kettle]

What is CL in ram? Mine says CL 40 but only single channel

16gb ddr5 5200 cl 40. I want to get the same but idk if this is good or if I should try to get 2x16gb 6000mhz

[tawny thicket]

all image comparisons i have made so far:
Stalker 2
https://imgsli.com/MzQ1MzA3 (while running)
https://imgsli.com/MzQ1MzAx (strafing left to right)
https://imgsli.com/MzQ1MzAw (standing still)

https://imgsli.com/MzQ1Mjk2 (standing still)
satisafctory
https://imgsli.com/MzQ1Mjg4 (strafing)
https://imgsli.com/MzQ1Mjg0 (standing still)

MHW
https://imgsli.com/MzQ2MzIw (in motion)
https://imgsli.com/MzQ2MzIx (in motion/charachter models)
https://imgsli.com/MzQ2MzIy (in motion)

https://imgsli.com/MzQ2MzIz (still shot(kinda))

1080p BTW

i'll advertise this vote cuz i can
#pc-specs message

[plucky quail]

Yea definitely

[plucky quail]

Why optimistic? Till we get pt we will be old.

[hard juniper]

i mean ray tracing was just a gimmick at first and now it's becoming more and more common

10 years is a long time, i wouldn't expect any of the current amd gpus to last that long the way things are looking

[tawny thicket]

and there are like 18 games where RT actually makes the game look better....

in 7 years mind you

[hard juniper]

and we've already got a couple that require rtx capable cards

amd isn't where i'd choose to stay is all

[tawny thicket]

and those run really well on AMD too...

[plucky quail]

I think gpus gonna last even longer by how slow this gen is.
Also RT is getting really useable in terms of it does not tank performance seen in Spider-Man where it’s performing with the 4080.

[hard juniper]

hopefully that's the trend moving forward

[plucky quail]

Rt has still a way to go in optimization and graphical uplift not like in games like Hogwarts where the RT looks ugly

[tawny thicket]

RT made hogwarts look soooooo much worse for me.....

[plucky quail]

And rt on 30 series is poor cuz of the vram and 40 series will experience the same fate

[tawny thicket]

yeah, its not like the 4080 will age much better than the XTX

[plucky quail]

The only cards that will not get this fate is the 90 cards that have the perfect amount of vram. That’s why we say Nvidia tries to upsell u to the higher cards

[tawny thicket]

NVIDIA doesnt give you enough VRAM ?
you are poor

[plucky quail]

It even aged worse in the hub video of the 5080 the XTX got better overtime

[tawny thicket]

[plucky quail]

It either does 2 things u get more VRAM but the performance lacks and cost is high or u get more performance but less vram.

[plucky quail]

Where

[tawny thicket]

yo-you dont see it ?

[tawny thicket]

you also cant actually use it

[plucky quail]

Nah saw it now