pc-specs

[spare coral]

Get a 9800x3d

[gusty lance]

Thanks for your help earlier went and bought a new GPU just to get better frames lol

[long geyser]

https://youtu.be/x61uUowV9lE

Literally no CPU can escape from this lmao. Look at his average framerates, pretty high right? Then look at how inconsistent his 1% lows are. It's not JUST that they're low, it's that they're fluctuating in a very volatile manner. Literally nothing is going on where he's at, yet look at how much his 1% lows fluctuate and how low they often get to

[flat brook]

He’s got something else going on, not even my 13700K jumps that much at 3440x1440 with DLAA and FG, stays steady between 8-10ms with 1% lows in the 80s

[long geyser]

https://youtu.be/dwrXG3vqCBM
Go to 26:05

[flat brook]

Temps are high, frametimes jumping between 15-33ms at 2160p with DLAA and no FG…

Whatever he’s done to his system, it’s suboptimal

[long geyser]

Yeah to be fair mine isn't THAT bad either, but it is pretty bad compared to what it should be

[flat brook]

What I’m seeing is a GPU at 99% usage pegged, which means the main render thread isn’t choking, which means the CPU is holding up fine.

The 1% isn’t caused by the CPU here

[long geyser]

In general, I've seen people with about the same specs report largely different results (even at same resolutions, upscaling, FG) so I don't really know.. any other game runs as it should for me. Stalker 2 has great average fps for me but the 1% is very strange

[flat brook]

If you have abysmal 1% lows paired with GPU usage dropping from 90-99% to 80 or under, that’s when your CPU is causing the slowdown

[long geyser]

They're not "abysmal", they're weird. They fluctuate alot even when I'm just idling

35-40fps for 1% lows is basically guaranteed for me. It goes from 90-100 1% to 35 then back to 90 and it's just so weird because (visually) nothing is going on, not even near NPCs

[flat brook]

This boils down to every end user’s software being set up differently. I have a rather barebones copy of W10, 210 hours and no major issues so far. Even in Rostok my GPU stays between 90-99% usage, 1% lows between high 70s and mid 80s, average between 100-110.

While on the other spectrum, we have people with the same cards and CPUs struggling to break 60 in Rostok with the same settings

[flat brook]

What CPU do you have?

[long geyser]

5800X3D 4090

A fresh windows installation could be interesting, but too much of a hassle right now

[flat brook]

You run anything else in the background while you play?

[long geyser]

Not really, I should mention that the CPU and GPU utilizations fluctuate alot too, neither my CPU nor my GPU are maxed out, at least not always

[flat brook]

A CPU should never be maxed out in a video game, atleast not yet. S2 uses between 4-6 cores, and SMT seems to make little difference from what I’ve seen

What resolution do you play at?

[long geyser]

1440p, non ultrawide

[flat brook]

The less your GPU has to do, the more your CPU has to pull. While the 5800X3D is a good gaming chip, it’s no pro-athlete at CPU intensive tasks, which unfortunately S2 very much is with Nanite usage instead of traditional LODs.

You’d benefit a lot from pushing your 4090 harder, leave upscaling behind, jump to 2160p etc

Turn hair down to medium, render distance to high

[long geyser]

I've played around with every single setting, including performance mods that are supposed to help with stutters, I've tried all the popular ones. No matter what I do it won't become butter smooth :(

[long geyser]

I mean that's true, but I don't think it would solve the 1% lows. It could make it less intense because the average framerate would be lower and so the drops would be less severe. I could just limit the fps for that, which I have, but when it's running at anything below 90fps it's not smooth enough for me

[flat brook]

You should give a run in 1080p and pull up telemetry, see how your 5800X3D is handling it, at epic settings.

From there, I would turn down settings that have a bigger impact on CPU utilization, and increase those that impact GPU utilization.

Hair is an absolute killer and doesn’t provide much visual fidelity beyond medium in my opinion, render distance is obviously a personal preference

[flat brook]

Here’s a silly suggestion, find a way to turn Reflex off

[long geyser]

"find a way"?
I can just turn it off. Unless you mean some kind of trick to also use FG at the same time?

[flat brook]

Reflex limits the max frames rendered ahead, which is great for input latency, but the moment something “spontaneous” happens, the CPU isn’t ready for it, causing a small to substantial stutter based on the size of the instruction set

I.e ;

You’re walking around garbage, all is well.

A-life spawns a group of NPCs that have just walked into your visible/online bubble

Reflex has caused the CPU to not be able to anticipate this, thus having to send the instruction to the main render thread on the fly.

Stutter.

[long geyser]

I could get behind that, and I'm not sure if I've tried it before

[flat brook]

I wrote a 3300 word essay for SPT Tarkov on optimization/why things run as bad as they do, Reflex was a major offender in people’s stuttering experience during raids.

Because anytime AI Scavs/PMCs would spawn, the limited frames rendered ahead would cause a massive stutter, as opposed to reflex off

[long geyser]

Are you using any parameters on steam?

[flat brook]

Nope

[long geyser]

Any optimization mods?

[flat brook]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/17

this one IIRC, requires some manual tweaking to your specific hardware

[grizzled drift]

Exactly this for me as well

7800X3D tho

Otherwise same settings and same results

and I use Frameview to check PC latency which is in the 40-50s

[flat brook]

My 9800X3D arrives today and I am struggling to contain my excitement, mostly because I can now also get my server rig back up and running

[grizzled drift]

Ooo very nice! Apparently it has really nice gains in Stalker 2 compared to the 7800X3D at all resolutions, I know you're coming from 13700k but either way

https://youtu.be/VN2_g_uzAA8?si=-oyM-OqrJlqiJhaZ&t=325

[flat brook]

Yeah, the 9800 is an undisputed beast. And a worthwhile upgrade as I get a jump on my main rig, and a massive one for my server rig (5800X)

The little 8 core champ has quite literally ran out of cores to give

And while I’m sure the 9800X3D would be no slouch compared to the 5800X, it’d be a massive waste to let it run servers, especially the ones that require upwards of 6 cores to run at full speed

[grizzled drift]

lol Yeah would definitely be a waste as a server CPU

[flat brook]

I’ll let the 16 on the 13700K sort that one out

[flat brook]

One of my servers requires a physical core per car to run at full sim speed, we usually have between 12-16 people on at any given time

[grizzled drift]

and you were using 8 before

Which I'm sure was fine but still

Probably a bit of server lag from time to time

[flat brook]

It wouldn’t run properly, so I’m having to host the dedicated server and client on the same machine

[grizzled drift]

Oh okay

[flat brook]

Seeing 80-90% CPU usage is truly something while sim racing

[grizzled drift]

and toasty too

[flat brook]

Especially for something that came out in 2014, still looks amazing though

[flat brook]

55-60c, contact plate + 360 AIO

[grizzled drift]

ah okay thats what I use too

plus 5800X doesn't get that hot anyway

[flat brook]

Got a contact plate for the 9800 too, I’m sure it doesn’t even need it, but for 15$ I’ll be happy if it makes a 2-3c difference

[flat brook]

I could breathe on it and it would stay below 50

[grizzled drift]

Lol I'm the same way , plus it looks nice even though you can't see it

[flat brook]

I was just rambling to a friend on what a shame it is that you can’t see them once they’re on, they look awesome

[grizzled drift]

https://imgur.com/a/pMQ3Ptx This was mine when I installed it awhile back

[flat brook]

Stuff looks clean🔥

I’ll send one of mine later today when it’s in

[flint spoke]

windows 11 24h2 is still fked

btw. so thats another factor.

[flat brook]

Damn, guess I’m staying on W10 for the motherboard and CPU swap

[flint spoke]

yup stay on it, that's what I should have done but too damn lazy, I'd prob revert if I actually played anything

issue was confirmed back in like early december. some games had to do hotfixes to not crash. other games much worse performance. mainly ubisoft games but apparently others

[flat brook]

Yeah just gonna copy my license key, back up my server files onto one SSD then nuke my OS drive and reinstall W10 barebones again to clear all the Intel and Z690 stuff out

[flint spoke]

i actually don't think there will be a fix. they'll just remove it when all large partners have updated their games to not crash. thats what I think 😄

[flint spoke]

cause if these issues are due to kernel level changes, like, what are they going to do, revert those changes? doubt it

[flat brook]

Red flags when AMD has to come knocking on MS’ door when they figured out their chips weren’t performing equally to what they should

[flint spoke]

yeah it seems gaming is secondary. which for anyone owning a gaming pc, feels a little ridiculous

at the same time, theres a shit load of games running different code, so it kind of seems inevitable they'll break shit anytime they do large fundamental changes but feels bad

real question is was this due to security fixes or was it due to totally stupid shit we didn't even need 99% of the time?

[flat brook]

Usually the latter

[flint spoke]

how much you wanna bet it was changes in prep for copilot 😀

[flat brook]

Atleast 50$

[glass vault]

Its turning out to be a trend with alot of software had to deal with Western digital telling me I'm losing my mind but all 3 AMD systems I had the software doesn't work but works fine on intel.

Who knows when western digital/SanDisk will ever fix their software

[coral token]

ah yes when intel is bribing companies to botch performance on AMD

[flat brook]

Believe less so that MS is intentionally undermining AMD, as Intel chips got a slight uplift as well, just not as big as the Ryzen chips did

[stable kite]

wen patch wen wen

[ornate hamlet]

waiting for steamos to become mature & support nvidia 🙏🏻

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/hhWsmCg

It is time

[tawny thicket]

Nice

[sand nimbus]

Low end

[flat brook]

Do not worry, I also bought a Ryzen RX4070TI-SuperXTX to go with it

[uneven portal]

XD

[flat brook]

@pure ibex

[pure ibex]

Got em

[flat brook]

Thanks mate

[uneven portal]

Consumers: wtf you doing amd?
Amd: i dont know either

[shut elbow]

Me and my friend, we both had absolutely broken GRAPHIC drivers after upgrade to 9800x3d
So u can try to ddu drivers

[flat brook]

I always nuke my drives and start with a fresh OS whenever I swap motherboards

[shut elbow]

Hel nah xd
I tried to keep old, waaaay to much work to reinstall everything.

[maiden sinew]

I tried to do that by taking my old m.2 to my new motherboard but there was so many issues and bsods i had to wipe it and install windows fresh to fix it

[shut elbow]

For now i manage to keep same drive and system for like 7 or 8 years.

[maiden sinew]

i went from a dell prebuilt to a msi z790 pro, so that mightve been the issue

[shut elbow]

Oh jesus. Yea, prebuilt os install is ads infested cancer

[maiden sinew]

yeah it was an, experience. 3060 11700 build for $1100 when the gpu prices were peaking so pretty good deal tho

[pure ibex]

On amd you have to bruh lmao

The windows install will be totally cooked till you do lmfao

[glass vault]

Hit your pc with a hammer it helps

[pure ibex]

Should have seen me trying to get pcie raid to work

You gotta add the driver during windows install

Or it won’t work

Ever

[shut elbow]

It works for now. Pretty stable (for overclocked xd), proper performance. I will reinstall if it will be required, but for now it works good

[pure ibex]

In my experience the old chipset drivers will totally mess things up

But if it works it works

[shut elbow]

I never had intel with this os, from 3800x, through 5000 to 9800x3d

As far as i know moving from intel to amd is guaranteed reinstall

[pure ibex]

Now you gotta delid the 9800x3d

[shut elbow]

Nuh uh
Nh d15g2 has to work with lid xd

[pure ibex]

Us the water block for it

Directly mounts to cpu face with no lid

Maximum possible performance

[agile harbor]

Not guaranteed. If you're savvy enough to know what to remove and prep beforehand, this works most of the time. Windows is pretty good about it these days.

What trips people up more often is MBR/GPT mixups.

Normal people just pulling a drive and slapping it in hoping for the best though, that rarely goes well.

[shut elbow]

Best is that, there is no point xd
Under 70⁰C, 5,6 all core with just -30mV

[shut elbow]

Yes, u can. But windows really doesnt like that switch.

[agile harbor]

Well, having done this numerous times with modern Windows, I disagree. All about the prep.

[pure ibex]

Overlock higher than

[shut elbow]

Record is 8,02
Sooo, there is a chance xd

[maiden sinew]

almost had to do that to my 14900kf, would throttle with a tower cooler

had to get a contact frame and AIO so i could actually run games

[pure ibex]

Get a cpu with v cache blows the intel out of the water

[maiden sinew]

I use it for a lot of workstation stuff

only things faster for non-gaming are threadrippers and really expensive server based cpus

[glass vault]

I mean the Ryzen 9 vcache are a good balance in my experience

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/RWclwpu

Shame you won’t be able to see the contact plate once the cooler is on

[glass vault]

Intel still is good for some applications like freecad since it's purely single threaded

[opaque moat]

lol i like the way people say get a better cpu to people with a 14th gen i9 lol

[flat brook]

But have you tried getting a better CPU? 9950X3D is releasing soon, chop chop

[glass vault]

For gaming it's perfectly fine. Workstations is also good but if another CPU can make it run 10% faster in work tasks it can be worth it

[opaque moat]

if someone already has a 14th gen i9 you dont change that... its just plain stupid

[pure ibex]

And the 9950x

They oc to be faster than 14900k

[flat brook]

Unless it has issues, in that case I would definitely change it.

Otherwise, if your CPU works fine, why upgrade?

If it wasn’t for my server rig needing an uplift, I’d still be running my 13700K in my main rig

[maiden sinew]

any sort of upgrade is too expensive and its good for what i need to do, nothing really holds me back cpu wise

i think the only upgrade I could do is password/hash cracking by getting a threadripper lmao

[glass vault]

Gaming you are right workstations are debatable depends if you value time or cost more

[maiden sinew]

im running a 4070 ti/14900kf on 1440p@180hz, pretty much runs perfectly fine for me

only lack of fps i ever get is stalker 2 or a few games with ultra settings/ray tracing

[glass vault]

You got the 14900k for workstation not just gaming right?

[maiden sinew]

workstation yeah

i wouldve went with amd if all i did was gaming

pretty much a really good workstation that is also pretty good with games build

24 cores is nice since my fps is stable even when im running a virtual machine or three

[glass vault]

Don't blame you I went with AMD for being a jack of all trades with their 7950x3d. Does workstation tasks perfectly and gaming extremely well

[maiden sinew]

im more of a if it works it works guy, amd/intel fight doesnt matter to me

[glass vault]

I did av1 encoding with the 7950x3d and it still did amazing for being CPU only 70-80fps

[maiden sinew]

i9 is really good at password cracking too and i usually do it for friends/ctfs

[glass vault]

Real. for me and had the cheaper option bundle than intel had

[maiden sinew]

brings down the time from like 8-10h to 1-2h

[grizzled drift]

https://youtu.be/37yHH3YR7jM?si=C3LCQzBFff5xiKjF this thing is gonna be beast. Fully Metal Shroud

[glass vault]

My friend did this but his target was my Roblox account he finally got in

[maiden sinew]

im surprised he didnt get ip banned from roblox for brute forcing lol

[glass vault]

Professional pentester and what does he do in his spare time attack my roblox

[maiden sinew]

ah fair lmao

all the stuff i do is just borderline legal

[glass vault]

Not password crack he did cookies by putting a keylogger on my pc

[grizzled drift]

Funny they finally using thermal pads now, I been using these for my CPU and GPUs

[maiden sinew]

yeah never trust stuff from tech/cyber friends lmao

refuse .pdfs

[glass vault]

He put it in my pc right before I rebuilt it and I caught it lol

Ngl it was pretty funny to get a video of him playing Roblox on my account

[maiden sinew]

thats sick

[glass vault]

My favourite thing to do when a friend's pc is unlocked unattended is make a task to have a 1/20 chance to swap language to Arabic or chinese

Then it just starts a week or two later

[stable kite]

Is it worth after beating the game to load a save before the last part to explore the stashes and places i left behind? Or i do this wen the next patch comes out?

[maiden sinew]

i did it to get the rest of the achievements

[maiden sinew]

i always change their discord/pfps to a train and download random shit lmao

[stable kite]

ah crap just realized that i am in that part that i can't explore anymore, door locked, guide wont travel... even at the ||cooling plant with Ritcher|| cant scape from there, deleted my saves before that.... Will have to wait and hope for a patch that players can explore the zone after ending or will start a new game from zero but not now

[glass vault]

Im gonna go for achievements after I finish all the endings

[hard juniper]

only you can answer that question

[flint spoke]

most of them will just have sausages and vodka and medkits

i'd save the rest of the content for next playthrough tbh

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/jilQJUe

She lives

[flint fable]

Just upgraded from my old i9 9900k / 16GB / 4090FE to 9800x3D / 32GB / 4090FE and what a difference. Smooth as a 21 year olds ass 🙂

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-what-wut-crazy-gif-20900490

the 5070 will have 4090 perf

with 3 quaters of the frames being fake

and 50% VRAM

[glass vault]

got the 9800x3d?

[spare coral]

Wait for the 11800x3d

[glass vault]

wonder if they are going to keep the same naming structure or change it when they do the next gen ryzen 10000 or go ot ryzen ai naming scheme like their mobile

[hard juniper]

outrageous sentence

[flat brook]

Aye

Now just fighting Microsoft nonsense.

Logged into account linked to previous windows license
“Can’t activate because used on previous device”
Click I recently changed hardware
Enter key
“Can’t activate because used on previous device”

[maiden sinew]

Windows is free if yk where to look

[flat brook]

I know, but I have a linked account and a key, so theoretically it should be a one click thing.

If it works

But this is MS we’re talking about

[maiden sinew]

Yeah changing motherboards made it want a new key and even ms support didn't help

[raw sleet]

it's been a minute but I seem to remember having to log into my ms account and removing the previous device from there for my key to work on a new board replacement

[flat brook]

Yeah tried that already

Weird thing is, on the exact same MS account, in my system it shows completely different systems than on my MS account through the browser… Tried removing the account and logging back in, etc etc

Just ended up brute forcing it, screw MS

[marsh galleon]

hi all, thought i'd throw my specs into the mix, 13700k, 3090ti fe, 32gig runs great

[long geyser]

I know this is kinda odd but... is there ANY chance deleting older saves improves/stabilizes performance?

[onyx swan]

Bruh the memory leaks are killing me, I play the game 30-40 mins and then all of a sudden frames drop to 10-20 fps and the game is unplayable. I heard that disabling frame gen helps with it but tried it and it didn't change anything but drop my consistent frames from 80+ to 50-60. I hope they patch this in the next update

[glass vault]

The Microsoft experience

[flat brook]

Real

[glass vault]

i hate one drive and how it dumps my old files all over my desktop on a new pc

[strange glacier]

very unlikely. save is just a snapshot of game's state saved into a file. the game doesn't keep them in memory all the time. it just scans for save files when you load last save or when you're in save/load menu. other than that the game does not touch them.

[glass vault]

in theory the only time it would benefit is when you click load save button when it scans for saves. but it is gonna be so small it doesn't matter

[glass vault]

did you get a cpu and mobo upgrade only or did you get more ram as well. i saw the x870

god i have done nothing productive this break

[hearty pollen]

Sometimes thats the most productive action, doing nothing.

[glass vault]

should've been working on python to understand the basics better since im doing deep learning for a class next semester and i have no python experience lol

[flat brook]

Split my 64 gigs 50/50 between the old board and the new, so 32 gigs for the server and 32 for the main rig

[glass vault]

god bless the server pc. it craves more power

https://imgur.com/a/AL1dFj7
Don't forget about drives

15 yr old drives are still going strong in this pc and my server where i got 10 hgst drives

[flat brook]

I’m hoping a single 970 EVO will be enough for now, 2TB should be plenty for the servers I’m running currently

[glass vault]

heads up 1 sata ssd can handle 2vms and as the OS drive for proxmox before it activly attempts suicide

[glass vault]

if you got sas connectors ebay is your friend. servermonkey on there got lot of 10 3tb drives for 90$

i bought a set and only got to 4% usage and plan to 1.5x the size again but not for raw storage but to get redundancy so i can lose over half the pool

[flat brook]

I mean I still have my NAS collecting dust, I don’t really need more storage

Server rig will be focusing on game servers anyway, which usually aren’t that big

All in all, my current lineup is about 75GB worth of dedicated servers, and ~30GB of data

[glass vault]

I got one server doing everything. Proxmox as the OS the pass through all my HDDs to a truenas VM for Nas and then use cube coders amp for game hosting

Nice to make the entire pc all in one solution. Works amazing so far

[mossy smelt]

What's the best upscaller

[spare coral]

If you have nvidia
Dlss
If you have amd then you can choose between fsr or xess try them both and see which one you like the most (i dont really like tsr on this game)

[grizzled drift]

https://youtu.be/ORXoOKND1Tk
I always love these

[flat brook]

One nuked NVME and W10 barebones install later, we’re so back

[grizzled drift]

Nice, I recently did a BIOS update and fresh install

[flat brook]

Feels good, feels speedy

[grizzled drift]

Time for minecraft

and some good ole minesweeper and solitaire

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/X53m2at

Gonna be some good old racing for me tomorrow, practice for a 12 hour endurance race on spa with a mate

[grizzled drift]

Damn that's a sick setup , what card is that in there?

Is that an Aorus model?

[flat brook]

Thanks mate!

4070Ti-Super, Gigabyte EAGLE OC

[grizzled drift]

Ah Eagle model ok nice

[flat brook]

Was on sale for 830 a year ago, couldn’t let that slide as the wife wanted a new card as well, so she got my old 4070 model

Which is also an Eagle OC, just non-Ti/Super

[grizzled drift]

Ah yeah definitely, very nice tho

I used to have a Gigabyte Gaming OC model and then sold that to a friend an got an ASUS Strix

Is the shroud on that metal?

[flat brook]

It is for the Ti-Super, normal 4070 was plastic around the fans and sides with a metal backplate

This one’s metal all around except for the fan face

Kind of surprised it hasn’t started sagging yet, forgot how heavy it was until I held it again earlier tonight

[grizzled drift]

Yeah , that's how the Gaming OC was too, just metal back plate which was kinda disappointing to me but whatever lol, that's nice that yours is tho besides the fan face

[flat brook]

Nearly dropped it too

[grizzled drift]

Bet that felt good lol

[flat brook]

I mean, honestly glad the fan face isn’t metal, any heavier and I’d be worried about it snapping the PCIe slot

And due to the upwards facing fan duct on the H5 Flow case, I can’t put a support in there

[grizzled drift]

True but pretty much all PCIe slots are reinforced nowadays and do you use the support bracket or stand or nah?

oops nvm lol

Damn yeah that'd worry me a bit too then lol

[flat brook]

Nope, card’s too long + the duct leading straight into a 140mm fan

[grizzled drift]

Yeah cause on the Strix everything is metal

[flat brook]

That’s gotta be heavy I imagine

[grizzled drift]

but I use the stand ofc, and yeah it is

You seen that new ROG Astral?

[flat brook]

Aye, thing looks amazing not gonna lie

[grizzled drift]

Right lol , not even an ASUS fanboy tbh but that thing is sick

[flat brook]

ROG definitely wouldn’t be my choice of card/brand, but they look phenomenal

[glass vault]

I wish there were smaller aib designs

[flat brook]

With how small the PCB is on the 5090 founders edition, surely we’ll get a small board partner variant.

Surely…

[long geyser]

2070 Aorus Xtreme is probably the best looking card I've used

[glass vault]

So far all 4 slot monsters

[long geyser]

Are they actually 4?

[grizzled drift]

Surely... right?... surely.

[grizzled drift]

yeah they all over 3 which basically means 4 lol, like the ROG Astral is 3.8

[glass vault]

I mean I will take any 5090 I can get closest to msrp

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I haven't taken the time to look at all the models yet, I know LTT and HUB and some others have videos, need to go watch em but so far I'd be happy with an FE or that ROG Astral lol

[glass vault]

Rog astral is cool but I don't want such a large card. If the FE doesn't overheat I am extremely happen with it. But if the astral is slightly better oh well. Depends what I get my hands on

[flat brook]

Probably wouldn’t even fit in my case.

Hell the 5080 might even be too long

[grizzled drift]

I didn't even bother to look at length, I just was looking at the thickness lol

[flat brook]

There’s a silly bracket running from bottom to top of my case where most of the cables route to the motherboard

The 4070Ti-S is already like 2cm off from hitting it

And the bracket extends to about 1/3rd depth of the card

[grizzled drift]

Is it one of those brackets that attaches to the mobo or whatever?

[flat brook]

Worst part? I don’t see any rivets or screws, it looks bend from one piece of Alu

[flat brook]

Not necessarily, not sure if you can see it in the previous Imgur link I posted, it’s right against the end of the card

[grizzled drift]

nah the reflection on the glass blocks it, I was just lookin at it for reference

[flat brook]

Gimme a sec, I’ll get a better picture

[grizzled drift]

Sweet

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/eUpEeWn

where the 24 pin passes alongside

Almost as tall as the DIMMs themselves

[grizzled drift]

Oooooh I didn't realize it was an NZXT Case, yeah those things, so you're saying the GPU almost hits that?

[flat brook]

Pretty much, one more pic coming up

[grizzled drift]

I didn't realize it poked out that much on those cases

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/X4nLzA9

Okay not half as bad as I made it out to be, but it’s still in the way of a longer card regardless, unless I bend it backwards

[grizzled drift]

just remembered you said this too lol, shoulda known it was NZXT case but whatever

[flat brook]

Pre-Scumpany purchase

[grizzled drift]

and ah yeah okay that is pretty close

[flat brook]

I will say, the airflow on this thing is absolutely amazing for a midi case

[grizzled drift]

You mean before their recent scam thing that happened with the rent a PC or whatever?

[flat brook]

That’d be the one

Would have bought an H11 next, but I don’t support those practices, regardless if they affect me or not

[grizzled drift]

Yeah iirc GN (Gamers Nexus) did a review and said NZXT actually made a good case lol

[flat brook]

Compared to those old Alienware looking cases, like coming across a Type 3 civilization

There’s still one of those white barcode stickers around a cable in my case, it’s comfortably being send along at the speed of light.

Amazing way to measure airflow

[grizzled drift]

Dude, those things were so bad, and it was just big pieces of plastic slapped onto like an OEM case

thermals were atrocious too

[flat brook]

One of my long time gaming buddies bought one of those fugly things around the same time I got my Fractal Arc Midi R2

Oh the endless hours spend crying from laughter hearing him complain about how hard his stuff was throttling even with a decent noctua tower cooler

And he didn’t even get a bad setup, I have no idea what got in his head for the case choice though

4790K, Z97G5, 2666MHz DDR3 16GB and an R9 290X IIRC

[grizzled drift]

One of my buddies had one of those as well and same exact thing lol, always complaining about temps and throttling

[grizzled drift]

and yeah idk it was really hyped up stuff at one point

[flat brook]

I can sort of understand wanting a nice looking case, but it didn’t even look that nice, cheap if anything.

There were far better picks out around 2014

[grizzled drift]

Definitely

[solid trench]

It's been long time since I played last time, are there any new fixes that I should download for better performance for the new patch?

[long geyser]

If it was unplayable then, it's probably still unplayable now unless the reason you had bad performance was related to memory leaks or other stuff and not just general performance

[serene meteor]

** MY JOURNAL, DAY 1 **

*** Day 47 in the Zone:
Dear diary, something weird is happening. All the bloodsuckers have started wearing tiny bowties and monocles. I saw one sipping tea with a Controller yesterday - pinky up and everything! They were discussing quantum physics, I think? Hard to tell when one's trying to eat your brain telepathically.
The Duty guys have converted their base into a modern art gallery. There's just a single burnt bolt in the middle of an empty room. They keep calling it 'The Essence of Radiation' and stroking their chins thoughtfully.
Freedom's entire base smells like lavender now. They swear it's not weed - apparently, a Burner anomaly started spitting out essential oils. The hippie levels are off the charts.
Sidorovich has started accepting interpretive dance as payment for supplies. My moonwalk got me three bandages and a can of tourist's delight. My Fortnite dance attempts got me shot at, but that's fair.
The zombies have started a book club. They only read one page per month, but their discussions about comma placement are surprisingly passionate.
Oh, and I found a mysterious artifact that turns everything into cheese. EVERYTHING. My gun now shoots moldy cheddar. Send help.

Confused Stalker
P.S. A pseudodog just asked me for my Wi-Fi password. I don't know what's real anymore." ***

[flint fable]

Anyone noticed when using DLSS things in the distance when moving look blurred until you stop moving then it corrects it self. If you use AMD FSR, I don't see that problem, it's sharp and does not change. I want to use DLSS but I'm having to use FSR for better image quality.

[long heart]

can i run stalker with these Specs: 8gb ram, GTX 1650 2.60 GHZ CPU 11th gen intel core I-5 11400F (i know i can arleady Run anomaly since i played it and it runs just fine, my expectations arent high i just want 45 fps on Medium)

[whole hill]

you can get pc gamepass for a pound and try it but its quitw cpu heavy my pc sometimes struggles and it has i think 4.8 ghz

and also inteseive on ram

[flint fable]

I upgraded my rig the other day from an i9 9900k / 16GB / 4090FE to a AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D / 32GB / 4090FE and I must say it's made a MASSIVE improvment in the games proformance. It was good before, more than playable with the odd stutter here and there but now it's butter smooth. Shame I can't progress with the main story as it's bugged out so I'm just wondering the zone

[long heart]

ye im cooked. sticking to Gamma and Anomaly i guess

[onyx swan]

I mean theyve got this frame gen thing in stalker 2 it does increase performance quite a lot

[strange glacier]

s2 is way more resource hungry than anomaly. I'm not even sure you can run it and get 25 fps with your specs.

steam gives you 2 hrs to try. i think that should be enough to find out if it's playable for you.

[onyx swan]

maybe you would get the 45 fps u want but the setting itself is still kind of buggy too

[tawny thicket]

DLSS is just like that

[onyx swan]

I wouldn't risk it also without upgrading my rig

[long heart]

i know about 2 hours, but i dont really want to waste time downloading when i arleady know the results so probably wont Play.

[tawny thicket]

as it takes WAAAAAAY more temporal smples than FSR so DLSS often ends up with better fine detail reconstruction and is often more stable

[strange glacier]

for fg to work smoothly you need at least 60fps as a base. otherwise there will be huge input lag

[tawny thicket]

But that can lead to being more blurry in motion

[onyx swan]

Ohh, i guess that explains why the game is feeling much smoother now since i turned it off XD

[severe wagon]

Is there an optimization guide that people generally use or am I going to have to wing it and figure it out myself?

[maiden sinew]

you could either just play with the settings or get some of the mods off nexus

[severe wagon]

Okay. Thanks

[spare coral]

With that gpu you cant get to 30 on this game but there are potato mods out there

[spare coral]

Leave Hair and shaders on medium for more stable framerate too

[severe wagon]

That's a big help, thank you

[strange glacier]

I used this: https://youtu.be/FzOP2ZXoM2E
The guy in the video walks through each of the settings and shows the difference in FPS and visuals, so you can decide for yourself what you want.

[severe wagon]

Perfect, thanks

[rare temple]

16gb minimum of system ram, 32gb recommended so you're already below the minimum requirements there. As far as Anomaly, that is not using Unreal Engine 5, so I would expect it to run fine on your machine. You're going to need to upgrade.

I'm on a Ryzen 5 3600, 32gb dual channel DDR4-3200 RAM, GTX-1660 with 6gb of VRAM, and I can "play" it on low settings with FSR 3.1 Quality and get around 50-60 fps out in the Zone. When I'm in settlements, it's a different story. Usually 40 fps, sometimes lower. I can get it to run at a steady framerate of 30 FPS if I lock my framerate to 30 via RTSS, but it's too jump for me.

I have enabled FSR frame gen, and I can get 60 fps pretty well, even in settlements. I can't play with mouse and keyboard as the response is too slow that way, but with controller, it feels okay. There's still some lag but not bad.

With FSR FG on or off, I still experience the same amount 5-10 fps drops in Settlements, so I just leave it on. What I have noticed is my VRAM nor my system RAM are not maxed out, but my GPU utilization goes to 100. Usually, the VRAM is around 5.6gb used out of 6. Normally, that's not an issue until I get into Settlements. So not sure why that is nor what is causing the GPU to spike, while the CPU doesn't. So I don't think it's A-Life, it's something else.

[whole hill]

btw 32 gb isnt that much anymore i -got mine for £50 if you want the link

the best thing you can upgrade on a pc imo

[coral token]

sometimes with stalker 2 I feel like I need 64gb ram already lol

[spring anvil]

is this game significantly more optimized yet?

hesitant to reinstall since it seems quite unlikely that they've 'fixed' the performance :/

[whole hill]

yeh lmao upgraded to 64gb as i got another 32 for christmas feels so smooth now

but so much better to buy now after the pc depression of 2020

can get most pc components for cheap

[whole hill]

yeah ais alot better but i found the best way to optimise is to follow a tutorial on youtube with simmilar specs tried there presets and all where pretty poort

also frame generation isnt that bad

i can send the vid i found if you want it

[spring anvil]

no i've tried those, i've tried the engine edits on nexus, none of it is really significant. I've lowered the hair settings lol

[whole hill]

ah when was this

[spring anvil]

back when it was maybe 1-2 patches post launch

[whole hill]

might be worth a second try

one big thing is putting it on an ssd, an hdd will tank any abiltiy to play

[spring anvil]

I have on ssd

[whole hill]

m.2 or usb/sata. either way should still be good

[spring anvil]

Have ryzen 5600x, 4060 and 32gb ram

[whole hill]

odd

[spring anvil]

sata

[whole hill]

i cant quite rember how to but a function of nvidia geforce experince is automatic overclocking lets you juice the cpu without any risk

[coral token]

do tell how you got cheap 64gb kit tbh

I currently have 2 16gb cl15 3200mhz tho

[whole hill]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KLEVV-DDR4-3200-Gaming-Desktop-Computer/dp/B082414XGV/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2XFR2P2N600ZM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NkPMM_GzqiB394qFUnhmPfi5yf0Ee-K0ZU4V68-buAnGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.malkIL1K7rzLvzsyBx5_iESh-6I7yE4jR5BACnC07wk&dib_tag=se&keywords=kevv+ram&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1736623344&sprefix=kevv+ram%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-3.

2 32gb kits of these had one for a couple years

bit on the slower side but looks quite nice and fucntion really well

[coral token]

well I want 2x32gb tbh

and with good cas latency

[whole hill]

ah fe im running four sticks as it was cheaper but heard that if you want to run high preformance or ddr5 stick with 2

go with royal trident heard there very good

[coral token]

I'm on AM4 platform with ddr4

[whole hill]

trident still pretty good just doesnt fit everyones aesthetic

like noctua

[spare coral]

Its about the same for me as release
A lil bit better framepacing tho

[grizzled drift]

If you want the best get SK Hynix A Die RAM and adjust the timings yourself

And before you say you don’t know how, there’s Google and YouTube

[coral token]

if you can find them either in amazon.de I'm down

[grizzled drift]

I’ll try n look for ya

[coral token]

found only ddr5

need ddr4

[coral token]

I guess for me overall this is best option I can find rn https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-VENGEANCE-3200MHz-Compatible-Computer/dp/B07Y4ZZ7LQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2Z1N88QGQB4YR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.l5zXnJje0uSvWg9D6mBx-PlVgXgUgJgzJQoXpq9WMYY_Gksjur4bP48eG1lFD6yhVcUEOVve4ZwtxpBF6n3hNjKCFTMPkQv2TfckH_wOwEu_GU5Sgl65JTS04GEsOsPYLDr4e2RIO36gB_mdbihaZQ.qfqH9o1djhZRQz4uwcCwOH_geVDOy02Ou4Y0XiKjFXU&dib_tag=se&keywords=SK+Hynix+A+Die+RAM+ddr4&qid=1736624957&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A10656894011%2Cp_n_feature_nine_browse-bin%3A9559992011%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A23964009011&rnid=23963802011&s=electronics&sprefix=sk+hynix+a+die+ram+ddr4%2Caps%2C190&sr=1-1

[grizzled drift]

Samsung B die then

Those are SK Hynix CJR die iirc, still good but can’t do as tight timings as the Samsung b die

That’s if you care that much lol

[coral token]

I mean I don't plan to go am5 or x570

it's pointless at this stage since then I need new ram cpu and motherboard or just motherboard and ram

I currently am on x470 motherboard

ah nvm ddr5 is only on am5 still pointless to change to x570

[grizzled drift]

Yeah you’re fine then to just get those, what I’m talking about is really for OCing

[coral token]

I already have 32gb ddr4 from corsair at cl15 3000mhz stock oc to 3200mhz

timings are 15-17-17-32

[grizzled drift]

Oh you want 64?

[coral token]

yeah but as dual stick since no space to populate all 4 slots 1st is covered by cpu cooler

and AMD cpus don't like quad anyway

[grizzled drift]

I didn’t even pay attention my bad, and yeah they don’t at least not with the higher frequencies and timings

[coral token]

I mean isn't worst but it will just run as x2 dual channel

finding c15 c16 64gb 3200mhz isn't easy sadly anymore

since c17-c18 3600mhz took over

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-PC4-28800-CL16-19-19-39-F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC/dp/B07WTS8T2W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1BKBGICW7BE1Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DOxTuUS4x80OKyYYFeIWigeg-5B3CpwJj45GNhQoPVsv0tB4M7Ac9jx5ewJx05KiTUNRCl0saoGU8ZrYKk2OmM60UKoHmdqNm2BRoZmJmfD36M7CrA9KlXyJB43fFfw8KC9yRW3qyU0-LNgoo8e1FShfYvqY7jlQJD7kXp7tysJFzU4uq4lzq1DqbXtCX5XCqgYmimQ_1OQP_UUljlUDftXh2PfCl03XDOSzGtyNBiQ.ngMG7vlfCLpsfudtY7fZbWmWDV_tLKU0DkvOh76YJUY&dib_tag=se&keywords=ddr4+3600+c17&qid=1736625447&sprefix=ddr4+3600+c17%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-2 this would be decent set but again only 32gb so same as I have now

only difference 3600mhz and 16-19-19-36

@grizzled drift I did just find this kit tho https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-VENGEANCE-3200MHz-Compatible-Computer/dp/B07Y4ZZ7LQ/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?crid=1BKBGICW7BE1Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3ApY9vqovGdpkBCzbygTB0a8Gu-g8AGDohzXKErHwH3JId9jzgst4TN0eQ1W47SFtxHWGWtK0Yej_9qeGgdbF7Cyw7DY6RC6ylRyd4dmNskoO9dNL59ByTLVeThLV2EO9WfaSy7UwVhSd67Bkduzwg.kTVJ5rCFjBm5SbtfOMQX6JHjmUcyPxTOr9JeMS-xUtU&dib_tag=se&keywords=ddr4+3600+c17&qid=1736625513&rnid=673240011&s=electronics&sprefix=ddr4+3600+c17%2Caps%2C163&sr=1-1-fkmr0

but then I would also need to source it locally where I am

and again back to 3200 and worse timing

so quite bad comparison only for double ram with worse timing ig

3600 with low cas at 64gb kit would be perfect

[grizzled drift]

I found these, I was looking for C14 but hard to find in 64gb https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-ddr4-3600/p/N82E16820374061

[coral token]

if only I was in USA

[grizzled drift]

Can you look those up and find em tho?

[coral token]

not the best timing tho 16-22-22-42

[grizzled drift]

Yeah they C16

You could tighten em up

[coral token]

I've seen c16 with 16-19-19-36

[coral token]

can I dm you?

[grizzled drift]

Sure

[glacial rune]

Anyone else excited for the 9070xt?

[plucky quail]

I am sad that they are abandoning the older cards. So no FSR4. And i am only gonna buy UDNA cards and skip the rest of RDNA

[coral token]

due to me already having 6800xt honestly not

at most I'll get 7900xt or GRE as upgrade and slot this 6800xt in 2ndary system

[glacial rune]

I was surprised with the performance of the non xt in cod but theres really nothing else notable to go off of for me

[glass vault]

from what i seen it is gonna be rdna 4 only for a while they are trying to get it on rdna 3 but their reasoning is they are doing what nvidia did with ai models. they can't guarentee that it will work on older cards as well as it will on rdna4

[glacial rune]

I feel like they did this with fsr or afmf on 6xxx vs 5xxx or even 500 series cards

[glass vault]

and also makes sense why nvidia locked MFG to their 50 series only. needs more AI TOPS for it to work as well as it does on 50 series

[glacial rune]

For either manu, there isnt any 3rd party performance reviews where they get to sit down and test a wider variety of games. I am waiting to see who all shows stalker though

[glass vault]

honestly i am really happy with the rtx 50 series yeah no major performance gains for native gaming but 3x the performance for tensor cores is amazing

[tawny thicket]

i......am

[glacial rune]

Thye showed close to 20-30% native gain I think

[tawny thicket]

we dont know...... yet

i'll keep the hopium going for my brother (who is on a 7900XT )

also everyone on RDNA 3

[tawny thicket]

5070 = 4090 + 75% fake frames:)

[tawny thicket]

i just hope they price it reasonably

like 480-400€ that is what i expect

[glass vault]

leak in philipines says 600

600 for 9070xt which honestly is fair

[tawny thicket]

"leak" in this case = photoshop

: i will NEVER belive that a storesite would "accidentally" put an unrealeased product on their website

[glass vault]

it happens more than you think accidently pushing a website update but it has the product pages avalible before they are

[glacial rune]

I think they would drop to 549 before it was release for 600

[tawny thicket]

IDK : it would prolly not be waaaaayy faster than the 5070 so and the 5070 has + 50% fake frame capabitlity sooo + DLSS 4 will look bettter than FSR 4.....

[glass vault]

from the benchmark leak it was slightly better than 4080 super

[tawny thicket]

🤔

are you talking about the..... BO 6 "leak" (backrooms benchmark by IGN)

[glass vault]

no 3dmark

[tawny thicket]

then....

maaaaayybe they can price it like a 5070

but the 5070 has + 50% the fake frames capability

so the masses might not care

BC of the whole 5070 = 4090 BS

[whole hill]

theres always ali express

[glass vault]

it might be price drop since they are launching afterwards and no offical msrp probably due to waiting for 5070 permance embargo to be released

ebay/ facebook best bet ngl for ddr4

[tawny thicket]

yeah........

also i am 90% certain that those "native" bencharts NVIDIA showed were also cherry picked

[glass vault]

well duh they are. its their job for marketing

why would they care about showing worst case scenario their goal is to sell not the opposite

[tawny thicket]

and HUB Steve tweeted that he was gonna stand on a roof..... (for the 5070 one)

and if you didnt know : HUB Steve standing for a reveiw = BAD product

if he is sitting he is at least mildly exited

and if he is lying down then he likes the product a lot ( think 9800X3D )

[tawny thicket]

that could just be BC NVIDIA LIED

[opaque moat]

i never buy till i see GN performance breakdown. nobody does it better

[coral token]

same

[opaque moat]

then again im skipping 50 series.

[tawny thicket]

❓ i think if you wanna get a relative perf thing HUB is the way to be go....

[glass vault]

i mean they didn't lie just it wasn't clear it wasn't native performance but rather dlss performance

[tawny thicket]

well.......true

technically

but either way they were being misleading

and HUB doesnt take too kindly to that.....

[glass vault]

honestly nvidia has suprpassed their goal for this generation. they weren't focused on native performance but rather AI. which they did get 3x increase from last gen. and better tensor and rt core performance. overall this has been one of the biggest leaps in a generation. but for ai not raster

[tawny thicket]

i'm also kinda (already) hyped for UDNA..

maybe AMD will finally be able to compete in AI / Workstation perf (on desktop)

[opaque moat]

most people could care less about native perf anymore lol.

[flint spoke]

yeah ima get a 9800x3d or something way before i upgrade a gpu

[glass vault]

not for the first gen after this nvidia slam dunk

[opaque moat]

nobody gonna buy it for that though... nvidia is too good with encode/render

[tawny thicket]

well.....i think this 6600 is a bigger problem for me than my 5600G ...... so i might buy RDNA 3 / RDNA 4 in the nex few months

[opaque moat]

everyone on nvidia for work station right now will definitely stay on it

[flint spoke]

yeah. i have a 4070S so its like, even in 5 years i could likely do 1080p on new games

so its whatever basically for me personally

[tawny thicket]

i mean AMDs AV1 encode trades blows with NVIDIA's from what i've seen.... ( if thats what you meant by "encode" anyway)

[glass vault]

yeah most likely only ai developers will upgrade for home workstations but cad modelers not as much since its really vram they need

[opaque moat]

stability. nvidia is locked in. they have to totally screw the pooch for people to change

[tawny thicket]

im gonna need an upgrade : BC i think next year my RX 6600 a 720p card will turn into a 144p card:)

OK maybe not 144p but

still not gonna be a 720p card next year

[glass vault]

now that nvidia has the most vram on consumer cards it won't change for sure until amd gets to 32gb vram

[coral token]

Why you say it's only capable of 720p

[tawny thicket]

BC it quite literally** is**

[coral token]

I'm surprised how 3k series and 4k series consumer gpus from nvidia have less vram than 6800 or 7800 lol

[tawny thicket]

(well 720p upscaled to 1080p but still runin games at 720:( )

[coral token]

I mean 3060 3070 4060 4070

[glass vault]

i mainly speaking for workstation focused not to mention cuda being the best for them like intel has been for the cpu side

[opaque moat]

Nvenc is one of nvidias best ideas

[glass vault]

nvenc is gonna die to av1 now

[flint spoke]

yea upscaling with 1080p looks so trash in this game for example. huge blur, needs 1440p badly to see anything

[opaque moat]

RTX was supposed to die with the 20 series and its still here

[tawny thicket]

💯

[glass vault]

ray tracing is a really good technology and has clear benefits in games just hard to keep up on the hardware side for now. still really nice for blender tho

[flint spoke]

and at low settings this game doesn't even look good really

lol

hell reflections look bad even at max settings without mods

[tawny thicket]

i have gotten used to such things ( i played on a VEGA 3 iGP for 4~years)

[flint spoke]

yeah i played a lot of stalker 2 on a 2070 super. was rough

[hard juniper]

their goal was to bait everyone into thinking that a 5070 is as good as a 4090, and clearly they succeeded

[glass vault]

man i was using my old 1060 rig for a month came back to my 3080ti rig and man this feels so nice to have the screenspace and responsiveness

[tawny thicket]

and by the way : it was hooked up to a 3200U which had 8Gb of 2400mhz RAM

[flint spoke]

ive been testing out Anomaly and I can do 90fps seemingly regardless of location, max screenspace shaders, at 1440p. its sick

[tawny thicket]

you think the 2070 was rough?😂

[flint spoke]

i used to have to play that at 1080p to get decent fps

[flint spoke]

it was, cause I still had to upscale from 720p 😂 looks bad man

but yes, could have been much much worse

[tawny thicket]

yeah it does even with DLSS i imagine...

[flint spoke]

yes even with dlss, dlss can't fix that resolution

[tawny thicket]

these are the settings i used to play ark evolved on : https://imgur.com/a/KD3iqyp

it also looks great!

[glass vault]

ark is the most shit optimized game ever

[tawny thicket]

nah : not as much as this is the OG version

[glass vault]

when it came out it was still shit

[tawny thicket]

especially the crash note😂 https://imgur.com/a/GmuvvyP

[tawny thicket]

well

i get 40~ fps on my RX6600 W res scale set to 100%

meanwhile the remaster gets me that much fps when rendering at 720p

but that game also has FSR FG

so i usually play at 60+

But it does NOT feel like 60+

[flint spoke]

fg under stable 60 fps def seems useless to me

but i swear I've heard people who use fg at 30 fps 🧐

[tawny thicket]

this stupid game just crashed again🤬

[hard juniper]

some people say they just don't notice the latency, idk if i believe them

[glass vault]

i think the next big goal for Frame gen is a way to tract your movement during the ai frames

[tawny thicket]

aaand again🤬

[flint spoke]

i guess if they're playing on a bad tv or monitor that has like 20 ms latency they might 🤔 tbh i think that or they're used to 30 fps cause idk how its possible to not notice that

i've thought about the monitor thing myself. like mine is like 4.3ms. but i know a lot of old ones are like 10-15 some tvs even 20 ms

[coarse linden]

Same kind of people who dont care how blurry the image is

[flint spoke]

real

[raw sleet]

I can see that if they play a lot of games with mouse smoothing enabled. Smoothing has that bit of latency as well; fairly similar anyway.

[hard juniper]

makes sense

[flint spoke]

tho blurry you can kind of get used to, if you're stuck with it, but i cannot get used to bad latency personally

[hard juniper]

high latency just feels awful, rather play at 30

[tawny thicket]

the peolpe that said DLSS 1.0 looked good

[flint spoke]

tho when I was younger i def played fps on consoles with like 30 fps so...seems at some point I was used to it, but thats insufferable now

[flint spoke]

yeah for sure. even 30 fps tho just feels bad haha

[coarse linden]

It really sucks to notice the blur since UE 4 is absolutely abysmal when it comes to that and UE5 havent really improved on that aspect

[hard juniper]

yeah lesser of two evils tbf

i've just stopped playing for now

[flint spoke]

idk i remember playing like the outer worlds and thinking it looked amazing, plus had high fps, great performance, but maybe if I go back now ill see the blur 🧐

[glass vault]

it was good for how early on it was. wasn't good but a good start in the direction

[flint spoke]

for anyone on lower specs this game would be much more pleasant to play on if it were ue4 tho thats for sure

it doesn't help its on 5.1 which simply put, has bad cpu performance

5.5 in comparison has like x2 the cpu performance

[coarse linden]

But hey one good thing about everyone flocking to UE5 is that you basically for the most part know performance after playing 1 game lol

[hard juniper]

real

[raw sleet]

is that why I see only a few cores getting any real utilization in stalker2

[hard juniper]

so sick and tired of ue5 games and the dogshit performance that usually comes with them

[flint spoke]

more or less

its the rendering

[tawny thicket]

[flint spoke]

render is kind of cpu bottlenecked in 5.1 for whatever reason

[coarse linden]

Good times when UE5 came and everyone was busy demanding that every UE4 game "upgrades" to it

[raw sleet]

12900k here and the load is like two or three cores tops, most % util i've seen on any one of those was 50

[flint spoke]

but yeah I wish it was 5.5, I wouldn't have any complaint about performance (tho I'm lucky enough to have a good gpu tbf)

tho obv thats quite an extensive upgrade for devs to manage. should go without saying tho. since gsc did their own engine work as well

[coarse linden]

Until i see 5.5 improvements in actual game its just snake oil to me

[tawny thicket]

i think if devs put in the effort UE 5 would run just as well if not better than UE4

[flint spoke]

nah check like cpu performance on games that upgraded or tech demo perf, its much much better

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-steve-intel-gamers-nexus-thanks-steve-gif-2570818544130153718

you have intel to thank for snake oil

🙂

[late ferry]

plebnation has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coarse linden]

Well then. Intel can go kindly perform certain questionable actions to itself along with its big.LITTLE

My 2 cents

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-what-wut-crazy-gif-20900490

[tawny thicket]

their cinebench accelerators 😂🤣😀

[coarse linden]

lol

[tawny thicket]

i mean that is quite literally what they are

[coarse linden]

I mean maybe we just should be happy that they finally got off the skylake++++++

And managed to make even more abysmal product

[tawny thicket]

14Nm +++++++++++++++++++++++++

[tawny thicket]

whih one? i dont dont which because there are so many:)

[coarse linden]

Pretty much anything running on that big.LITTLE

[tawny thicket]

i would exclude Alder lake (12th gen)

those were and still are.....good

[coarse linden]

I mean good tech for laptops and such but pointless for desktop pc

[tawny thicket]

those were fairly competative with ZEN 3 WDYM ?

[coarse linden]

Theres no real need for efficiency cores on desktop since we are not limited by battery

[tawny thicket]

i mean....those arent even efficient..... those are just intels version of C- cores

(AKA: dense cores)

[maiden sinew]

14900kf my beloved

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-hell-gif-4808980

that is you RN i know it

[coarse linden]

But in the end doesnt really matter what people use. I wont buy intel until those "efficiency" cores are trashed

[maiden sinew]

it aint the coldest but it doesnt run too hot

[spare coral]

A 14900k not running hot? 😭

[tawny thicket]

well IDK if i 100% belive you but.....good for you

[maiden sinew]

~70c for games ~85c for super intensive stuff

[coarse linden]

Lol for sec i thought -70c

[maiden sinew]

thatd be crazy

[coarse linden]

Not if you run with that intel peltier cooler

[spare coral]

It wont even turn on at that temperature lol

[coarse linden]

That costs like 700€ and spends 400w of electricity

To cool 250w load lol

[maiden sinew]

mid tarkov run

[coarse linden]

Best AMD was those old Phenoms and Athlons for which you could unlock more cores

[plucky quail]

Thats what i would expect if they use dedicated AI Cores. But if its just faster like RDNA3 did than i cant understand that. They said that they dont have plans for RDNA3 or older. So AMD coming really late with such tech and making it only for there Newest card is bullshit.

[tawny thicket]

they dindnt say that "they dont have plans for RDNA 3 or older"

[plucky quail]

The head Engineer said: We dont plan on Bringing on older GPUs but maybe in the future we will.

And if somebody says maybe its mostly a No

[tawny thicket]

when FSR 4 launches it wont be on thoseolder cards but they never said that they wont do it

[coarse linden]

Sadly seems to be bit of a theme for AMD GPU's to come late to the party

[tawny thicket]

also : RDNA 3 doesnt support fp8 which is required for FSR 4 while RDNA 4 does......

[plucky quail]

Yea that what the head said but a maybe is just maybe. And even if they bring it it could be like the Xess for other cards. And thats just bad for consumers.

[tawny thicket]

iam not sure on how well it would run on RDNA 3 though

but IF AMD decided to make server and consumer be on the same architecture we wouldnt be speculating on this RN

as CDNA 3 supports fp8

[plucky quail]

Yea for me i am gonna skip this gen cuz it does give me no uplift in performance. But just want to know is FSR4 really using FP8? And where did you found out?

[tawny thicket]

in the leaked FSR 4 files it mentioned fp8 (the optiscaler guys told me so)

oh yeah and the files have been leaked

they just dont work:)

[tawny thicket]

and i also think there was some other leak saying so too...

[coral token]

Bro no joke I wish my first PC in Ireland was actually last gen of Phenom not the trash that was FX line even tho I had FX9370 lol

[coarse linden]

FX was such a scam lol

[coral token]

I mean even if FX was quite shit FX9370 was alright

I forget codename but it wasn't early FX

[coarse linden]

I mean marketing really did its works when managing to sell 4 core as 8 core

[coral token]

I mean no hyperthreading 8 core

[tawny thicket]

kinda like 4 cores 8 threads

[coral token]

Also it did hit 5ghz

[coarse linden]

But crappier

[tawny thicket]

exactly

[coral token]

But in same time due to how shit FX line was Zen line came out and put Intel to shame lol

[tawny thicket]

5ghz with 2 instructions per clock

[coral token]

I still don't understand tho how AMD came up with so bad cpu line

[tawny thicket]

DIK but 1 thing is certain : someone was an intel spy

[coral token]

Literally AMD made first x64 cpu first dual core cpu and then made that abomination lol

I mean now they are also first with chiplet design

[tawny thicket]

and then they made RYZEN

[coarse linden]

Zen was quite the lucky break for AMD

[coral token]

And CES that new mobile apu man what beast

I think I saw LTT cover it that die is absolute chonker

[tawny thicket]

which oneeee?

i cant remember

dont think i was paying attention back then

[coral token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbAa83KcC8

[tawny thicket]

ohhh so "new"🤦‍♂️

i thought you meant something from 2017~

😣🤦‍♂️

[coral token]

up to 16c cpu with bigger GPU die than last gen whole APU package lol

[tawny thicket]

thanks anyway

[coral token]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

[tawny thicket]

im waiting for ZEN 6:)

[coral token]

here took ss of it for anyone not wanting to look at video and timestamps

[tawny thicket]

i'll go from ZEN 3 to ZEN 6

[coral token]

I mean am waiting for whatever will be almost end of life for my current system

as long as 5800x3d isn't bottlenecking GPU I have no reason to upgrade lol

as it is am rn in x5 labs in stalker 2

cpu is at 40% util and gpu is 100%

[past escarp]

Whats your gpu?

[coral token]

6800xt

[coral token]

now what is your setup slinger?

[hard juniper]

that was my setup last year
same gpu and cpu

[past escarp]

ryzen 7 7700
rx 7800xt
32Gb 6000MHz Cl36 RAM

and now im thinking abt buying QHD monitor

[coral token]

So what you have now?

[coral token]

Honestly barely better

[flat brook]

Hmm, seems FLCK is no longer a 1:1 to MLCK but Asynchronous now, interesting

[coral token]

Gpu is so small margin different isn't even fun

Kind of disappointed with amd on that

[flat brook]

Getting much better latency with FLCK at 2000MHz as opposed to 2167, 65ns vs 93ns

[coral token]

You can manually set FLCK

[past escarp]

yeah difference is not that big, but still a little bit better. anyway i upgraded from 1660ti

[flat brook]

Well, yeah, which is how I found out Infinity fabric is now Asynchronous

[coral token]

Well you have older amd system?

[coral token]

Well yeah from that huge gap but should have looked at benchmarks and price difference could have gotten probably 6800xt for less

I'm not sure if on am5 can do it I know on am4 can at least I can on my x470 board

[flat brook]

Yeah, server rig has a 5800X, on AM4 FCLK = MCLK, it was a 1:1 ratio, no longer is on AM5 which caught me by surprise.

Other hand, makes sense as DDR5 is so fast neither the Infinity fabric nor Memory controllers can properly keep up with it

[past escarp]

benchmarks that i saw had abt 5-10% difference in performance and cost was almost similar, even though i bought nitro+ which is not cheap

[coral token]

I got 6800xt powercolor fighter brand new last year for 500

[hard juniper]

4080 super

[coral token]

Could have gotten 2nd hand for 350

[past escarp]

in ukraine both cards were maybe abt 550$, so not a big difference for me

no, i remember, the difference was actually 2k or 40$

[coral token]

Not bad price 7800xt same time in Latvia was 700+

I talk euro but roughly 1:1 to usd

[past escarp]

thats why i chose 7800xt. also at that time i saw 0 7900 GREs

[coral token]

Still happy I snagged that 5800x3d when I did under 300 euro lol

Now if in stock is more than 500

[hard juniper]

same, saw a deal for about 250 gbp and didn't hesitate

[coral token]

Now best for am4 is 5700x3d

[past escarp]

i bought my 7700 for roughly 270-280$, but motherboards and ram is pricey for am5

[coral token]

I have Asus rog strix x470f

I have no reason to upgrade to b550 x570 really

If I was on b350 x370 maybe I would have

But even those some of those boards are too good to not use

[past escarp]

and i bought msi b650 gaming pro, one of the cheapest motherboards on am5

[coral token]

Another thing that's great for me is I have 32gb ddr4 at 3200mhz cl15 15-17-17-32

[glass vault]

Yeah no reason to upgrade the board unless it's gonna be the new socket

[coral token]

I could see upgrade from x370 or b450 but x470 when is better than b550 yeah nah

[past escarp]

i guess for the 3-5 years u will have no problems with cpu like 5800x3d

also my past cpu was legendary 3600, that will outlive my entire bloodline

[coral token]

My previous was 2700x

[glass vault]

I mean even x370 to b450 is debatable. Cuz that would mean upgrade of CPU and mobo which you could get first gen am5 platform chips for a little more which would justify the upgrade more.

[coral token]

I will make 2ndary system with it and if I get better gpu for this one this 6800xt is going to it also planning to upgrade to 3600mhz 64gb cl16

[hard juniper]

well, we will if games like stalker keep coming lol

[coral token]

I meant if you're on x370 or b450 your path would be be x470 or b550 or x570

[coral token]

Stalker is on new engine aka ue5 most others will follow it for few years now

[past escarp]

honestly, stalker is simply very poorly optimized game

[hard juniper]

hopefully things are sorted out by the time cyberpunk releases, that's all i'm worried about

[coral token]

New cyberpunk?

I heard witcher 4 is first

[hard juniper]

yes it was announced a couple years ago

but yeah witcher comes first

[coral token]

It ran too well on my system till 1.1.3 tbh

[flat brook]

Considering most if not all 370/470 boards support 5th gen Ryzen, with or without a BIOS flash, any upgrade to your motherboard wouldn’t make sense unless you’re moving over to AM5

[coral token]

1.1.3 ruined it tho for me

[glass vault]

not sure if witcher 4 is pretty soon or not. i saw tha 5090 did the render for the trailer

[coral token]

What I know x570 supports pcie4.0 so that's only upgrade for me

[past escarp]

thats why i completed the game in 2 weeks and now im waiting 6-12months to replay it again

[flat brook]

Not one you’d notice, and definitely not worth 120+$

[hard juniper]

oh no i doubt it'll be any time soon, just saying that witcher will come before cyberpunk

[coral token]

And it's so minuscule it's not worth it

[flat brook]

I’d save that money for a switch to AM5

[coral token]

Same tier mobo I have now is closer to 200€

Due to how good vrms etc. Are on this board

[glass vault]

2026-2028 is the window it seems

oh they annouced full production last month

[hard juniper]

hoping to see cyberpunk by 2030

but also scared of how well it'll run on my current pc

[coral token]

Asus has made mistakes on mobos recently

But 470x line they have is good

[glass vault]

thats the funny part. it wont

we all know witcher 4 and cyberpunk 2 will be nvidias show horse

[coral token]

Hey now I ran cp2077 on launch on r9 290x and it was playable

[hard juniper]

my 1060 just about handled cyberpunk at 1080p, so i'm hopeful

[coral token]

At 1080p actually hit 100fps avg

on now pre historic gpu lol

only saving grace was my 290x had 8gb vram

most had 4gb

rest in peace that old 290x it actually kicked bucket

295x2 was a messy card overall

when it ran it did great but when didn't was just single 290x performance with 10% penalty

so more of 290 card

[hearty pollen]

God damn thats impressive. Those cards had massive memory bandwith iirc? Probably the saving grace

[opaque moat]

Ati rage pro 4MB all-in-wonder was the 1080ti of the 90s

[past escarp]

thats sad that we will never see cards like 1080ti anymore

[flint spoke]

it will anywhere there is a lot of of stuff to render like settlements, wild territory, pripyat

[coral token]

512bit

[opaque moat]

i need to repaste mine. been a hot minute

[flint spoke]

maybe not with your gpu tho 😄

[past escarp]

guys, do you think its worth buying new qhd monitor when i have rx7800xt?

[coral token]

yes

[opaque moat]

yes

[coral token]

but sweetspot is 1440p high refresh

probably also widescreen

[opaque moat]

QHD is 1440p

[coral token]

I hate those 2k qhd 4k etc. terms

just list it by measure of pixels pls

[opaque moat]

its easier

[past escarp]

i have one that looks pretty good (msi mag 274qrf qd e2), cost same as asus rog strix xg27acs

[opaque moat]

i dont use the 2k term but its easier for some to understand.

[coral token]

what?

[past escarp]

first monitor price is the just like the price of second one

[coral token]

so you already have qhd monitor

[grizzled drift]

Make sure you update them drivers yall

[coral token]

unless you want 4k one

[past escarp]

no, those are the ones that i currently can name as good ones and thinking abt buying one of them

[coral token]

I'd say solid oled panel with 1440p and at least 165hz is good

[glass vault]

neo g8 is nice i just make my game 1440p yeah its not a 1:1 match but best of both worlds watch 4k movies and still game with high fps

[past escarp]

now i have samsung lc24rg50fqixci and lg flatron 2043s i guess

[past escarp]

they costs like kidney

[coral token]

I mean I have Asus tuf VG27AQ HDR

it's not oled but panel is good

since is 165hz 1ms

[glass vault]

miniled from ktc is also an option

[past escarp]

its abt 15$ cheaper then those that i sent

[coral token]

now to explain how that works is different thing out of box won't work with ELMB

at least on amd gpu

[past escarp]

elmb?

[coral token]

Extreme low motion blur

there is also MPRT tho

[opaque moat]

damn exact one i have lol. i dont overclock it to 165 tho...i leave it 144

[past escarp]

so it lowers amount of motion blur?

[coral token]

I guess you run it on hdmi

[opaque moat]

no.... DP. .... its 144 out of the box

[coral token]

not sure what I did but mine runs 165 lol

[opaque moat]

yeah its in the panel settings...just need enable it... i kept it off

[past escarp]

and it should work on this frequency

[coral token]

I suggest turn it on

especially if you run gsync or freesync

[late ferry]

kerensk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[opaque moat]

nah most games i play max settings barely get 144 locked.. no need for 165HZ if i cant reach it

[coral token]

ah yes HDR10 messes up on win 10

[opaque moat]

plus... i never use overclock features.

[coral token]

my only issue

I push frames more than quality some times so that 165 is noticeable also due to freesync it's good when hits more than 165

or in general hdr

I do wonder why entire screen goes green screen with hue of purple if I turn it on in game

[past escarp]

so msi one i guess has better colors(i guess) and samsung screen itself. but asus have some technologies

[coral token]

get samsung odyssey line if is good price

[past escarp]

on ips or va?

[coral token]

va

but well that asus one is TN

[past escarp]

and why? is there any particular reason?

[past escarp]

one that i sent here also has ips, just like msi

[coral token]

TN always had the fastest response times.
IPS always had the best color stability.
VA always had the best contrast.

[past escarp]

so i have here samsung odyssey g50d (ls27dg502eixci) for abt 250$ ips 180hz

and another odyssey g5 s27cg550 165hz va for 200$

[coral token]

I like TN because fast response

[past escarp]

i have tn second monitor. its awful.

[coral token]

Probably should be as first

Anyway 3am imma sleep

[past escarp]

goodbye

[coral token]

Honestly I'd say get whatever suits you best

I like TN panels due to response time if is 2ndary and running as multiple monitor it will suffer

[past escarp]

Wish i knew what suits me best

[coral token]

Max out in fps first 1 monitor and then think about 2nd usually is rule of thumb

If you split on 2 1 image if you use for different tasks not same issue

[past escarp]

At least not tn, but va or ips is hard question, like i dont care abt black being dark-blue or dark-grey, but ips i heard has better colors

[past escarp]

Im just using my old main monitor as the second one

[coral token]

Better color stability

Tn isn't good for multi monitor setup

[past escarp]

Honestly i prefer anything above tn

[coral token]

Oled is go to tbh

[past escarp]

Yes, and i would love to go to the oled, but its x2 my budget

[coral token]

Go to store compare to va and ips there

Tn va ips

[past escarp]

Sounds good, i will do this and make my friend suffer with me

[coral token]

It's best way to see what you prefer since on Internet can't

It's like what's the best keyboard or mouse

Or headset and for everyone is different

[past escarp]

I dont want to ride to the store by taxi or bus, so i will ask a friend to go with me, and he also knows something abt monitors so then i will decide

[past escarp]

I have ips screen on laptop(which im currently using) and va on my pc

But i still think that it would be better to compare both types of screens in life

Thank you for your help

[opaque moat]

OLED bringing back the screensaver

[pseudo blade]

42" LG OLED, One Oled TV To Rull Them All

[coral token]

TV not as good as monitor regardless of what panel technology used

[vestal tusk]

aye nice

[tawny thicket]

honestly seems too good to be true

[opaque moat]

oh how fortunate ... nvidia forgot to announce the DLSS4 mfg will work on 40 series cards also

well they didnt forget thats for sure

[tawny thicket]

AMD forgot to tell you that you can actually use AFMF + FSR FG

[vestal tusk]

i mean its on par with my 12gig 4070ti for RT performance

but we will need to wait and see

i hate they dont bother showcasing the non super 4070ti cards in benchmarks anymore

[tawny thicket]

that leak has it as fast a the TIE super but i imagine it is waaay faster than that in non-RT stuff

[vestal tusk]

ah true good point there

id agree

im excited to see

[tawny thicket]

i mean we saw some benchmark for COD BO6 where it was faster than the XTX

[vestal tusk]

thats wicked

[tawny thicket]

and that was raster where the XTX was generally really good

[tawny thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mufF-YQzXM

[broken needle]

dont use frame gen amd/nvidia it's shit

[tawny thicket]

#scam

[broken needle]

use mods 90fps with meds settings DLAA or TAA

ban this mo*****

[tawny thicket]

try both then pick which one you like more

[broken needle]

look same_ish

i use taa with no blurry (modded) working fine except in some city, and I'm recording so 5-10 fps less

[tawny thicket]

@pure ibex is this against the rules? (it seems really skechy)

[broken needle]

user must be banned asap

[tawny thicket]

well this @median heath guy is already off this server

[vestal tusk]

Banned them

[pure ibex]

Saved the day I was driving

[tawny thicket]

oh,sorry😅

i wanted to tag the mod role but it wouldnt let me

[broken needle]

never use phone while driving : rule 1

[vestal tusk]

🫡 they dropped that porn link in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications while i was talking about cotz so hit them with insta ban lol

[tawny thicket]

oohhh

[pure ibex]

Why you think I didn’t reply

[vestal tusk]

if the role doesnt work for pinging feel free to ping a red or purple staff member you see online discord can be wonky when it comes to role pings imo

[tawny thicket]

ok, will do next time😅

[pure ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597350761730408451/1303389001276719115/charliecasino.gif

[vestal tusk]

no worries haha its gotten me alot on other servers

[tawny thicket]

well i will ping someone that isnt driving😅

[pure ibex]

wow im not driving all the time

would be nice if i was though

https://tenor.com/view/neutron-star-neutron-star-cigarette-cigarette-charlie-moist-critical-gif-18373819313414893684

[tawny thicket]

well you were when i pinged you

no?

[pure ibex]

yah

[coral token]

@tawny thicket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlND7pFg2pk

why am I not surprised at all lmfao

[pure ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlND7pFg2pk

[coral token]

why your loaded with the thing and mine didn't lmao

[pure ibex]

i have imbed perms

you do not

[tawny thicket]

he is a first class citizen

[tawny thicket]

he also doesnt have slowmode aplied

[pure ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-this-reminds-me-george-orwell-birkebeiner-esdeath-gif-26320157

galax has not dropped the HOF 5090 yet

we all sleepin till then

no leadtek 5090 either

AYE

they dropped a 5090 gainward

[coral token]

he is monolith while we aren't even worthy to be humans as Roosevelt told me in Cordon lol

[tawny thicket]

🤣😂

[coral token]

bro is also sending pics here

[pure ibex]

i killed that guy

[coral token]

Praise the monolith

[pure ibex]

monolith is lame and cringe

[late ferry]

kerensk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pure ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-opinion-opinion-gif-22134945

[coral token]

damnit I killed Shah because was unreasonable aggression and then Varan because he deserved it anyway for starting that whole war there and Roosevelt was only one who was reasonable to some degree lol

[coral token]

honestly my only gripe is why was noontide killed off so quickly lol

[pure ibex]

bad plot or something

[coral token]

we didn't even get much plot with them really

clear sky moment lmao

[coral token]

0db mode aka my HX1200i which is old as balls had it already long before it's called not enough load fan stays off

[pure ibex]

my 2 best psus are a 1600i which i use in my main rig

and an evga 2000 watt i use in my workshop

[coral token]

man I love this HX1200i thing is too good

considering my system at most draws around 50% on it that thing is 95% efficient lol

[pure ibex]

this psu is kinda silly expensive for no reason

[coral token]

so many people RMAd them when they released originally since thought that fan is broken lol

[pure ibex]

because it uses gallium nitride components

on 240v ac

its like 99 percent efficient

[coral token]

I mean efficiency is not cheap

we could return to early 2k lol with psus that were so inefficient it wasn't even funny

[pure ibex]

they also just were terrible

try plugging any old psu into an oscilloscope and you will see horrors beyond your wildest dreams

[coral token]

honestly if my hx1200i kicks bucket which is a big if if ever will happen I'll probably get superflower one

[pure ibex]

so

most modern psus

are rated for like 20mv of ripple

on its power rails

some older psus

ripple like 200mv or more

[coral token]

oh right now am wondering did Nvidia stick to that crappy atx3.0 plug lol

[pure ibex]

they did

but apparently its been improved

it now has some lights on it

[coral token]

ah man can't wait for some people to burn their gpus lol

[pure ibex]

that will tell you if the connector is plugged in correctly or not

and if not

it wont start

[coral token]

well that's good to hear tbh

[flat brook]

Skill issue, always make sure it’s all the way in.

This is about PCIe cables

[pure ibex]

i mean

the funny thing about 8 pins

is the sticker power rating is like

1/3 of what they can actually draw

one 8 pin can on paper draw like 400 watts

[coral token]

bro some people simply replugged too many times adapter and poofed the gpu

which was supplied by Nvidia themselves

[pure ibex]

i miss the era of people just sanding off the power delivery system on gpus

to weld on a new one

[coral token]

ah man good old AGP

[flat brook]

I wonder what the threshold for too many is, 13 times seem to be fine so far

[coral token]

I do not suggest to test that threshold lol

[pure ibex]

man we should go back to molex tbh

why cant i buy a gpu with like 8 molex connectors on it

[opaque moat]

the pcie 5.0 cable? its alot more than 13 times.

[flat brook]

Already thoroughly tested, 13 times in 8 months is already a lot.

If you’re having to remove your GPU more than 13 times in a year, you got other issues to worry about chief

[coral token]

132 watts per 1 molex so for a modern gpu maybe need 6

12v 11a lol

[pure ibex]

gpu also needs to convert the 5v

so it needs dual vrms

[coral token]

now if we power it on 5v 11a that will be way more as that is 55w

[pure ibex]

back in the day they did that

motherboards would take cpu power over 5v

so boards could when overclocked consume upwards of 40 amps over 5v

[coral token]

oh I remember that

[pure ibex]

athlon xp was a monster of a cpu

but it was thirsty haha

[coral token]

I had one lmao

like I think was very first 64 bit one as well

biggest scam of that era imho was 64 bit cpu but mobo limited to under 4gb of ram lol

[flat brook]

12VHPWR/ATX 3.0 yeah.

If you’re wearing the pins down so far with 20 decoupling cycles to the point where they’re flash soldering from too little contact area, I’d suggest taking a paid course in anger management

[pure ibex]

well

getting over 4gbs of ram

with ddr1

was damn near impossible

by ddr2 though was pretty easy to do

[coral token]

I had 3.75gb ddr1

or was it 3.5

I think was mixed up to hell ram tho but it worked lol

that bloody pc ran till 2012 lol

[pure ibex]

nf4 ultra

[coral token]

nah had old gigabyte dual bios board

actually that feature saved it few times due to how sketchy back in day BIOS flashes were

[pure ibex]

it still had nforce chipset no?

[coral token]

yep

[pure ibex]

nf4 ultra then

the chipset

[coral token]

but man that driver lottery of early 2k lol

people crying about drivers nowadays have no clue what they say

[pure ibex]

hahahaahahaha

back then drivers worked mostly

if the drivers did not work perfectly out the box

the product was a failure

[coral token]

hahahaha

for real and most times people did driver updates it was wild west of lottery