pc-specs

[agile harbor]

Things differ depeding also on the input resolution.

When Jedi Survivor came out, it didn't have DLSS at all, only FSR. I was playing at 4K and used FSR through the whole game and the quality of the upscaling didn't even cross my mind.

[tawny thicket]

CPU + GPU

Why TF does AI market share matter in this situation? (answer:BC it doesnt) and did you even look at the other polls? there is more than just that one

[agile harbor]

just hitting minimum specs rarely results in an enjoyable experience

[stuck sedge]

Does anyone know what to do because I have some issues with my private stash it keeps crashing my game and all?

[glass vault]

I like it when the minimum specs from indie Devs is just "functional pc"

[agile harbor]

really a disservice

but it sells the game to the clueless (who then don't think to refund it)

[glass vault]

I mean usually it's for 2d games and extremely old PCs can run it.

[tawny thicket]

wait no sorry....for some reason when i read indie i thought of indiana jones🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[glass vault]

Honestly having stupid minimum requirements that day potato and alive are funny. And they don't have a big impact since they are usually for games that are 100mb in size and are extremely easy to run on old laptops

[tawny thicket]

#Vega3forLife

[tawny thicket]

for some people ghosting is a bigger problem than it is for others.but at the end of the day its all subjective

for image comparisons the reason ppl make stills is just because they are lazy

[uneven portal]

I don't think it's subjective to say that it's visually negative for the game, and it's objective to say that it's an unintended side effect by the developer.

[tawny thicket]

but for some people ghosting is less annoying than flickering/shimering (thats what i meant)

i wasnt arguing that ghosting doesnt negatively affect the image

[coral token]

I contacted support over 1.1.3 tbh and now have gotten to part where I submitted DxDiag after they have reviewed the report so far.

[agile harbor]

I started a new game. couldn't help myself

i completed indiana jones, thats my excuse

[stable kite]

waiting for moar patches before a new playthrough

[coral token]

just a question to you have you dealt with HDR

[uneven portal]

yea....

[agile harbor]

quite a lot, something that's almost becoming a secondary hobby to PC gaming

almost the whole reason i'm starting a new playthrough with RenoDX, Ultra Plus and Special K for screenshots.

Spent a good portion of time in the HDR Den discord yesterday tuning my C2 for this game

so much information in the Stalker 2 thread

[coral token]

so who can I dm about issue I run into

as HDR on in Windows and HDR on in game makes me bleed my eyes lmao

[agile harbor]

First, what display do you have. It may not even be worthwhile turning it on

[coral token]

ASUS VG27W

[agile harbor]

VG27WQ1B?

[coral token]

yep

without it in Win everything is too bright lmao

[agile harbor]

Frankly, unfortunately, I wouldn't bother. That display can't really do HDR properly.

[coral token]

honestly in a lot of games works and in other half doesn't

[agile harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/WtF3XzE.png

[coral token]

issue isn't I'd say HDR itself I would bet something else

[agile harbor]

Edge lit with no local dimming and just not bright enough.

[coral token]

nah I show

[agile harbor]

If you want to try and make something work, make sure you're on Windows 11 and run the HDR calibration app.

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9N7F2SM5D1LR?hl=en-us&gl=US&ocid=pdpshare

[coral token]

thing is am on win10

[agile harbor]

Going to be a struggle then, no matter what

[coral token]

https://imgur.com/a/ufzrEKg this is issue

for some reason if I turn it on in most UE4 or UE5 games this happens

and it stays on desktop side even after closing game only solved after in Windows turned off HDR or restarted

[agile harbor]

Oh man, and AMD GPU too.

[coral token]

weird thing is in a good few games no issue comes to mind Metro exodus

but UE4 UE5 yep always triggers this

[agile harbor]

The whole screen turning purple is not something i'm familiar with.

[coral token]

wish I knew how to look it up online too

most searches are about washed out colour not this

maybe should just reinstall OS lmao

[agile harbor]

Does the display OSD offer any adjustments or settings for HDR?

[coral token]

only 3 types of HDR setting

Asus cinema Asus gaming and console mode

[sand nimbus]

@coral token theres a big black sky over my town

[coral token]

basically only lets adjust brigthness contrast and colours if HDR is off

[sand nimbus]

@coral token im right over here why cant you see me

[coral token]

why you ping me

[sand nimbus]

You are a good man

[coral token]

oh hi then

[tawny thicket]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

that doesnt sound nefarious at all

nope not at all

[lone niche]

Does anyone have like, the ideal settings for someone with a 3070, I can get the game to run pretty smoothly but it looks terrible.

[tawny thicket]

im totally surprised

[tawny thicket]

what settings you playing with? (currrentely)

[lone niche]

Apparently it's fine if you kill literally every single outside process, turn off frame gen, and set DLSS to DLAA mode.

[agile harbor]

DLSS to DLAA mode is no upscaling, it will be the most demanding

[glass vault]

Its probably the upscaling making it look weird. since it is upscaling not native

[agile harbor]

unless you're on a 1080p monitor, DLSS Quality should be fine

and unless CPU bound (which is all too common with this game) provide a bit of a performance jump

[glass vault]

Yeah 1080 it's not as noticeable unless you are used to running a 1440p or 4k native

[spare coral]

Upscaling from 1080p to even quality mode just sucks sadly
A 3070 wouldnt be able to run this game at 60fps without upscaling or fg tho
Try using the benchmark king settings should look good and run "decent"

[agile harbor]

Oh, yeah that's what I mean ^

Upscaling on a native 1080p display is hit or miss, wouldn't want to go any lower than quality mode

[jade grotto]

anyone have it where they see trees but theyre purple

[agile harbor]

i've seen that with certain mods

[lone niche]

im playing in 2k :), for context my XSX is on a big giant 4k TV so thats probably why it looks better for the most part

[spare coral]

Oh dlss quality on 2k should look even better than native 2k on some cases lol well i guess you are used to upscaled 4k from your xbox then
Try the benchmark king settings from youtube and see if it helps on performance but yeah 2k on a 3070 is pushing it on current games (especially with 8gbs of vram)

[spare coral]

Lmao, for me i see them as white blobs sometimes and i dont use mods

[jade grotto]

we're still not allowed to skip cutscenes huh?

[spare coral]

Wait for next patch

[jade grotto]

yeah true

[mellow egret]

i put my nuts on my router and now my internet is faster 🤔

(they're flavored almonds)
(this is also not a joke)

[pearl creek]

Is anyone else having weird popping of foliage and trees? I’ve got everything on highest, and just don’t know what’s going on

[fluid shell]

Yeah I've been getting that

[spare coral]

I think people use custome engine.ini to fix that
this game has popping even on epic settings

[stray sedge]

anyone elses game crashing constantly at rostok? I have been fine going through there for a while, now I cant enter the game for more than 5 min before it locks up on me and I have to force kill the process

[lavish mason]

do you have a massive store of random stuff in your chest?

[stray sedge]

yeah its got some junk for sure

idk if id say its massive tho.

I should probably get rid of all the quest items like notes PDAs etc. Is this causing the memory leak issue? seems to be exclusive to rostok

[lavish mason]

seems there was some corrolation to the chest filled with lots of stuff and rostok crashes but cant be syure beyond that. might as well sell all the pdsas and notes etc, see iof it helps

[stable kite]

yes i had specially when looking in my stash

[stray sedge]

yeah, had it happen opening stash and shopping. I have always been close to the stash when it has happened so it makes sense. thanks fellas

[stray sedge]

on it now, fingers crossed. Thanks for the tips! idk why but I have been worried about selling the PDAs and other random quest items. now this garbo shall be gone!

[lavish mason]

once youve read them they can be disposed of. quest items are marked as unsellable so you should be good

[uneven portal]

In this case, any use of DLSS at resolutions higher than 1080p improves visual quality, especially because you avoid the need for TAA.

If you use it at 1080p, well, DLSS is practically a ghosting generator, not to mention that you can literally see everything flickering in the distance.

[full charm]

I have a problem with my chest in Rostok. When I do inventory management for too long, my game freezes. In the task manager I see that my RAM (32 GB DDR 5 6000 MHz) is 99% full. I only get this in Stalker 2 in the Rostok area. Does anyone else have this problem? Or does anyone have any idea how I can fix this?

[spare coral]

Rostok crashes if you have too much stuff in your chest or inventory iirc

[full charm]

Ok thanks. Then I need to avoid the rostok chest.

[brave mirage]

guys do you get a pc crash with an error of not enough gpu vram when compiling shaders ?

[flint spoke]

shader comp has all sorts of issues since last patch

[jade grotto]

i use the sutom one from nexus and it still does it

[jade grotto]

Any suggestions on the best engini.ini to use now a days?

[rare temple]

Depends on what your system is. If you're using an 8gb or 6gb card that is not RTX, then I would say qmqz's mod is great. It's what I use with my GTX-1660. I don't know of other mods that work as good for GPUs like mine. I've tried others, but I experience just as many memory leaks with those as I do without. QMQZ's seems to really reduce the memory leaks for me with the "Peak" version of his mod.

He does have a Base version for more powerful cards.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/133

[tidal owl]

How is the performance on 24h2? Stalker 2 crashing or freezing? Or fps boost?

[jade grotto]

im using a ryzen 9 7900x3d and a 4070

[spare coral]

Same as before at least for me

[glass vault]

How's your experience elwith dual CCDs curious other people's experiences

[mighty ingot]

will my i5-8600K and 3060 handle this game?

[glass vault]

If it's the 3060 12gb you should be in better shape than the 4060. since you won't be restricted on vram

[remote arrow]

The CPU might have a hard time, play on low settings

[mighty ingot]

Ok, thanks

[remote arrow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308034374473617459/1325275149179555840
This might help

https://discordapp.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308034374473617459/1325275149179555840

Try this

[keen hemlock]

I fixed it but not by doing this;

The issue interestingly enough was a stick of memory.
I have mixed and matched RAM in that PC and switching it fixed it;
My guess is the memory controller can't keep up with it from all the CPU calculations that S2 does.

[remote arrow]

Okay interesting. Seems the error can be attributed to more than one cause I guess. Glad to hear you fixed it

[keen hemlock]

It's zone, we don't know shit why it does what it does (I've tried something like 20 different fixes for the error and eventually something worked)
Props to @pure ibex for swapping the RAM to see if that would fix it;
That was the last thing in my mind

[raw sleet]

GPUDeviceRemoved low level fatal error is (in the case of Nvidia hardware) the driver - nvlddmkm.sys - taking a shit and causing a Timeout Detection Recovery in windows (TDR for short)

You can confirm this by checking the Windows event viewer for Event ID 4101 - so either S2 is causing these because Eurojank™, the GPU drivers are buggy, hardware config is in error (too much overclock etc.) or possibly a hardware failure while under the heavy load S2 demands.

I had a lot of these errors myself across all versions including release; I've nearly eliminated all occurrences of this happening since by switching my bios XMP settings to obey the timings dictated by the memory sticks themselves and not allow Asus to OC them in any way.

This is on an i9-12900k / z690 board with an old 2080ti; 32gb ddr6 6k

[lone niche]

any fix for pixelated shadows and such? I have my DLSS set to DLAA and about a 35% sharpness filter on, doesn't look like shadow quality or framegen is causing it either.

[spare coral]

Settings?

Static shadows look ok in high/epic settings but the shadows for trees etc that moves with the time of the day can look quite rough
The only fix is doing a costume engine and upping the quality but you will lose like 10 fps more than the epic setting

[wooden rapids]

B580 is goddam disgrace

Anyone got any idea on the B580 overhead issues on Intel side of things? Because Hwunbox only tested on AMD

[agile harbor]

The concerns appear to be CPU horsepower specific, not necessarily CPU vendor specific

HUB made the video to re-test what HC did, who used Intel. https://youtu.be/npIpWFSfmv4

[wooden rapids]

Thanks

[sleek bane]

Hello, has anyone had this issue:

LoginId:5c74b2da404c6d0efca794a11e87fd51
EpicAccountId:

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 880] CurrentQueue.Device->GetDevice()->GetDeviceRemovedReason() failed at D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:910 with error 887A0006

Stalker2_WinGDK_Shipping
kernel32
ntdll

Gamepass version on PC:
i7 12 700k - 3080 ti

[raw sleet]

yeah, fairly common for some of us, gpu driver crash

[hearty pollen]

Ah, just another session of stalker.

[opal lion]

thanks i have not had any stutter issues since the patches at high 1080p settings, but i do plan on trying the ddu uninstall reinstall of the graphics drivers.

[sleek bane]

I pushed through the more repetitve crashes this evening, after 2hr of crashing every 20min, I managed to get another 3hr of crash free CHEEKI BREEKI...I shall call this a succes!

[sand nimbus]

@uneven portal https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/484

Tried that one out yet? , just saw on reddit

[sturdy spear]

hey uh found something decently interesting for Stalker 2 did you know that if you vault a normal ledge your character doesnt really groan BUT! if you vault one that has sharp edges or a broken fence your character groans in pain because its sharp? i didnt expect that detail to make it into the game i think its interesting

[robust ember]

Yeh, and if it's barbed wire you also get bleed status

[sturdy spear]

yea that one is pretty commen for game design but I didnt expect them to add in the level of detail where your character reacts to whats happening rather then just scripted things you know?

[serene meteor]

can we friends

[sturdy spear]

?

[uneven portal]

o tnks

[sand nimbus]

If you try it out let me know i dont have Stalker installed rn @uneven portal

[uneven portal]

ok I will start the benchmark in about 20m and see how it goes.

[uneven portal]

is like wow

[sand nimbus]

That big of a difference?

[uneven portal]

Generally, the performance is low, but in areas that used to suffer drops to 30 FPS, now I go to 45 without problems with everything on ultra. In terms of graphical quality, the lighting improves slightly, but you can really notice things like the reflections on the weapon, the change is real.

https://ibb.co/hLmyBJf

[agile harbor]

❤️ Ultra Plus

[sturdy spear]

question? right? im running a shot gun, i have shot gun ammo, the game sees that i have shot gun ammo, the ammo saids it works for my shot gun, it doesnt accpeted the shot gun shells ??? why?

[hard juniper]

stalker

[sturdy spear]

sounds about right

[agile harbor]

I believe with certain shotguns you not be able to run slugs if the gun is stock, or something similar.

what it buckshot?

[sturdy spear]

yea, i had stocked up 400 shells of buck shot and the game just cant see that i have it in my invo, like i pull up my back pack check yup its in there, but the game wont let me switch too it as my ammo type and use it.

[agile harbor]

Never had that happen in ~130 hours. 🤷‍♂️

[glass vault]

my old gtx 1060 system is aliove

[flat brook]

There’s a certain upgrade (Rifled barrel IIRC) that disallows you to use buckshot shells

[sturdy spear]

how is this an upgrade?

[flat brook]

Because it massively improves accuracy with slugs?

[sturdy spear]

but effectively making it a rifle not a shot gun correct?

[glass vault]

man monitors have come a long way using a old gateway from 2006 and this sucks so bad

[flat brook]

It makes it a 12 gauge shotgun, just only able to use slugs and hit your targets accurately, and at a further range

[glass vault]

rocking the 8ms response time

[flat brook]

It’s still semi-auto/pump action, and a 12 gauge, just more accurate and with a single big round

[livid spade]

Plus slugs still do the same amount of damage as buckshot, just one big round instead of a big spread of pellets. It's like shooting a .50 BMG then changing the chambered round to .50 Beowulf. Still a .50 caliber round but one is meant to be used in close range and the other will just absolutely destroy things a couple hundred meters out with ease.

[sturdy spear]

with rifling and only abble to use slugs, witch is basicaly a bullet, with no way to make the shot gun a shot gun anymore. yeaaaaaaaaaa thats useless to me im removing that asap

[flat brook]

The pellets inside a buckshot shell are also technically bullets…

Everything has its use case, slugs work just as well as buckshot at any range, just make sure you hit your target

[sturdy spear]

Im aware that you can but thats not the reason that i picked it, buck shot is a common ammo type, forcing the player to need slugs forces the player to buy ammo for it, its useless too me if thats the case

[flat brook]

Not sure how early you are in your play through, but once you get near midway point you’ll be swimming in slugs, can also sell the buck to offset the price of slugs

[sturdy spear]

wild island? with out spoiling things for other people but im not sure if thats mid or not at least for me it doesnt feel like its early?

i dont seem to find them that commoninly, and true you could but thats like selling your car to buy food, it just doesnt make sense, i would prefer to just have the shot gun work as intended, you know as a shot gun.

[tawny thicket]

For me wild island got the story going

And then SIRCAA was where it peaked

[sturdy spear]

true, but not sure where that falls in the time line ( as far as how much left of the story there is too tell)

[glass vault]

I wish the other factions had more impact rather than just the new 4. Would have been cooler to see the faction dynamics between them all

[unkempt cliff]

Anybody else playing on a rtx 3050 even post patch im getting terrible fps drops ive spent a total of 64 hours trying to fix it with every possible setting and its jjust not working im looking up videos of ppl with the same specs as me and its not working

[uneven portal]

I have a friend who can barely play with a 3050, so I guess it's something widespread.

[unkempt cliff]

like it runs normaly then boom 5fps and it locks to it

[flint spoke]

ive seen people with similar memory leaks on other hardware like amd

[hard juniper]

lots of wishes for this game

[glass vault]

the performance i can deal with but it just feels like they canned the old factions

[flint spoke]

eh they just ran out of time and had to cut their quests i think

there's some left over dialogue options for them

[glass vault]

the story is still good in my opinion just wanted to interact with more old factions for the main story rather than mainly side quests

[royal fractal]

Can barely play with a 4060 for me, always 16-40 FPS on medium often

[flint spoke]

what cpu do you have

[royal fractal]

Ryzen 7 5700X

[flint spoke]

oh well it shouldn't be THAT bad

might be a driver issue, i'd ddu and reinstall gpu driver

[royal fractal]

It's pretty rough though, I'll do that

[flint spoke]

unless 4060s are that weak but thats worse fps than I had when i played 1080p with dlss on a 2070 super

[royal fractal]

Yeah I'm also doing 1080p, to clear that up

[flint spoke]

yeah something aint right then

[glass vault]

4060 is roughly around a 1080ti just less vram

[royal fractal]

Is it really?

[flint spoke]

like my 4070 super does 1440p at like 70 fps for the most part

[glass vault]

yeah probably driver related for the performance issues. check gpu drivers

[flint spoke]

mainly im held back from 5800x3d

[glass vault]

1080ti does not have dlss of any type but raw performance its pretty close

[noble kindle]

@royal fractal nvidia-app kills performance for some reason, idk if it helps a lot

[glass vault]

they put out a hotfix it disables the feature by default that leads to the drop

[noble kindle]

Thanks, good to know

[royal fractal]

I'll turn it off just in case then, I don't have a nvidia overlay program enabled but I'll just close all nvidia app things

[glass vault]

its somewhere in settings but forgot which one it is

think it was photo related

[royal fractal]

I've done about 3 reinstalls of the game to see if there was anything wrong with the files itself but it's usually been the same, performance mods never really helped either

I could just have a PC not good enough for now until more patches come out

[flint spoke]

^only mod that helped for me was stalker 2 optimized base. all others dropped fps

that and enabling the pso optimized disk cache but thats to remove stutters not fix fps

[agile harbor]

As long as these are off you're fine. Not that I noticed a difference either way. https://i.imgur.com/2ws5Y2w.png

As for performance, a tweaked Engine.ini can do wonders if you're ok with potato quality.

[noble kindle]

@royal fractal what driver version is your gpu using?

[royal fractal]

Nvidia says 566.36

[noble kindle]

Alright

[uneven portal]

There's really no way to optimize it; we're not really capable of it. The devs should work on the LODs because, at most, we can only lower the graphics quality or remove the clouds.

Ray Reconstruction was the only thing that helped me; thanks to it, I can use DLSS without so many artifacts.

But it's more about visuals than performance.

[royal fractal]

I'm managing 50-59 fps in the wild with DLSS Balanced, high preset with settings turned to medium

[noble kindle]

seems alright for a 4060

[royal fractal]

This is with the base performance mod recommended by Sqepticism

[noble kindle]

So it did improve? Awesome

[uneven portal]

sadly

[royal fractal]

Just barely, but I suppose it did

In combat FPS goes to 30-45

[noble kindle]

npc's tank fps

[uneven portal]

https://ibb.co/0nZGpzL ultra + mod The improvement is quite noticeable; the game looks much better, especially the reflections and shadows on hands and weapons, with minimal performance cost.

[noble kindle]

Nice

[royal fractal]

Frame Gen scares me, I only have the FSR version available in game though, makes it incredibly hard to aim

[zenith vessel]

I have a GTX 1660 on all low settings and I get about 5 fps 😳

[uneven portal]

It's normal; when starting with 30 FPS, the new 30 FPS generated have no control over them. When people thought this technology would be good for low-end PC users, they didn't take this into account.

[agile harbor]

Indeed, but it has some settings you can enable that negate any performance benefits. I'm primarily using it for the visual boost.

[royal fractal]

Mhmhmhm

Not sure if Nvidia frame gen is different but I can imagine it's higher quality with less delay, but I wouldn't be able to check that

[noble kindle]

its different, i think fsr is software based, nvidia framegen hardware

[royal fractal]

Mhm, thought it'd be available for me since I saw it was for 40 series but it's greyed out

[noble kindle]

it should be

[uneven portal]

It really doesn't make a difference, both are quite bad. You still don't have control over those frames, so you're just fooling yourself if you're going below 50 fps base.

[noble kindle]

ok

[agile harbor]

It should be, helps more than it hurts if you're over 60 to begin with. Its personal preference if you like the feel or not, its not universally good or bad. https://i.imgur.com/Ro0e4hX.png

[royal fractal]

Yeah that option is greyed and locked out for me

[noble kindle]

Interesting

[royal fractal]

It's been that way for pretty much every game that has Nvidia frame gen

[uneven portal]

Well, aside from the ghosting, the extra latency, and so on, it's fine to have frame generation. Although it would have been better not to have it from the start so the company wouldn't have considered it when making the game, hehe.

[agile harbor]

Sounds like a driver issue

[agile harbor]

That time has passed (industry wide). The downsides you speak of affect some more than others. (I don't see or notice any ghosting) and with Reflex + starting with a base of 60fps, input lag is minimal to not there after playing for a few minutes.

FrameGen isn't going to help people starting in the 40's.

[noble kindle]

So basically framegen is something for a baseline of atleast 60 to make it smoother?

[agile harbor]

Yes

[uneven portal]

Well, the thing is that at medium/high settings, really few people can take advantage of frame generation. Also, if you use ultra+ settings, the denoiser fixes the ghosting.

[noble kindle]

Ah, good to know

[agile harbor]

Yes, this game is universally unfinished.

[uneven portal]

I still don't understand why they didn't add a denoiser as good as ray reconstruction. It's easy to implement and it's universal in games that use this type of lighting.

[royal fractal]

I can imagine they had to cut a lot of corners to make the game run as good as it could on Xbox since they're partnered with microsoft

[uneven portal]

Don't worry, I have the game on console and it runs pretty badly. Plus, the use of upscaling and the significant drop in graphical quality, especially on the Series S, is noticeable. The real problem has been on PC for a few years now.

If consoles were still the main platform for gaming, I think we would have more optimized games. It sounds strange to say this after defending PC gaming for so long, but I'm starting to think that way.

[tame hound]

does anyone else get a weird screen effect around the border of their screen while zooming with a scope?

[fluid wagon]

its the

RTX Dynamic Vibrance or whatever, its a live filter that chews up performance

you can disable it in settings iirc, its just enabled by default

[rare temple]

That's what I have and I can get 60 fps out in the zone for the most part, and then around 35-50 in Settlements. Just depends on how big they are and how many NPCs are in there. I use qmqz's mod. He has a "peak" version which is what I use. Also, it could also depend on your CPU as well.

QMQZ's mod is located here -> https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/133

I have settings set to low, FSR 3.1 on balanced, and light shafts turned off.

Also, I don't use the in-game vsync nor set the max FPS in the game. I instead set vsync in the nVidia control panel for the game itself, and then limit the frames to 60 fps via RTSS (Riva Tuner Statistics Server).

[zenith vessel]

Is this a reshade preset or... where do I put it? (found it)

[scarlet python]

i5-11400f, 3070ti, 16gb ram. can i play high or epic guys?

[livid spade]

If you want to run well on High or Epic you need more RAM, you have the recommended RAM for medium or lower but meet the recommended specs to play on high for everything else. You can probably run it on High but your experience will be bad unless you get more RAM.

[sand nimbus]

Cap

[surreal epoch]

I am still crashing with 32gb ram 4070TI 5900x 1440p med settings. A lot of times I crash when opening inventory or storage. Longest time I got to play today was 15 minutes.

I've switched all RTX settings off and HDR off it made no difference on or off with those settings.

[flint spoke]

i got better perf using stalker 2 optimized base + enabling pso driver optimized disk cache but it could be different being on a 4070 super vs an older card

then i stole yerts reflections casue they're awesome

[livid spade]

Not cap, the lower your RAM the more likely a game is to stutter or freeze as it loads things in as you move about the game world especially so with higher end quality settings as RAM is used to temporarily store textures, used to load things in, etc. so yes you can run Stalker 2 on High or even Epic with 16gb of RAM but the already present performance issues WILL be exacerbated due to how much memory the game will need.

[sand nimbus]

🤣

[flint spoke]

yeah this game can def use over 16gb of ram

i've had it use like 24gb of ram

ram won't fix cpu bottlenecks tho, but it would help some

[sand nimbus]

Just setup a pagefile. Been doing it for tarkov which can use above 30 easily on 16gb ram and its fine

[flint spoke]

bruh page files are slow as shit even ssd page files

[surreal epoch]

my 5900x cpu doesnt break a sweat but the 12gbvr on 4070ti I got to manage

[flint spoke]

tarkov is a different engine, unreal eats ram for breakfast

[flint spoke]

nah, a 5900x will limit your fps in settlements

[sand nimbus]

Not my fault lol , works for me.

[flint spoke]

people get pretty big boosts going from 5000 series to 7800x3d to 9800x3d

[surreal epoch]

I get 150 fps in settlements at 1440p

[flint spoke]

75 fps in rostok? x to doubt

[surreal epoch]

i get 1/3 that in 4k

[livid spade]

Dude using your HDD or SSD as RAM via pagefile is STILL slower than RAM. It'd be better to upgrade your RAM instead of putting the burden on a SDD or HDD which, even though yeah it'll work, will still result in subpar results to just having enough RAM to run things without a pagefile.

[surreal epoch]

before patch it would drop to 10 fps not it just freeze

[flint spoke]

UE 5.1 cpu perf is just brutal

[surreal epoch]

I just wish the crashlog would generate give us a clue

generates bunch of empty folders

[flint spoke]

also prob bad for ssd lifespan

[surreal epoch]

One more attempt then I stop for the night haha I can be patient I want it fixed haha

[flint spoke]

lots of people are still getting memory leaks

one of my friends with an AMD gpu gets it like every 30 mins

[surreal epoch]

It's not my realtek drivers but there was an update there

[livid spade]

Frfr, it's good in the short term but longterm dude is gonna destroy his drives.

[flint spoke]

the game itself has some driver problems 100% currently

im sure they'll get worked out tho. for whatever reason both on a 2070s and a 4070s I haven't gotten them except the infamous rostok mem leak that seemingly every other person has

[livid spade]

Isn't there a PDA memory leak too? Like opening the PDA over and over results in big memory leak issues?

[surreal epoch]

I also still get this c++ runtime 14.42.34433 error unavailable access

I've installed it from what I can tell

[scarlet python]

am i having cpu bottleneck with i5-11400f + 3070ti?

[livid spade]

Shouldn't, your CPU is pretty good running up to 4.4ghz which is faster than a lot I've seen but it runs into bottlenecks with a 4060, 3070Ti should work great with it. Might run into memory leak issues though like most of us are, and if you have 8gb VRAM as opposed to the 12gb version you could run into more stutters but overall you'll be fine. Still would heavily recommend a RAM upgrade though, 16gbs of RAM is gonna get rough within the next couple years for gaming.

[scarlet python]

yes, i have 8gb vram, and thanks for the answer.

[surreal epoch]

I tried reinstalling c++ 14.42.34433 but it still wants 14.30.30704 in the error I get when I launch the game. Windows 11 will not seem to let me install previous version. Gonna try a restart after reinstal new version but many freeze ups not CTDS.

[scarlet python]

does windows 11 have any higher gaming performance compare to win10? I hate that windows 11 taskbar cant move to sceen side vertically. I cant live with the taskbar on the bottom of the sceen.

[opal lion]

so im currently reinstalling stalker 2 because after a clean driver install, all of a sudden the game stopped launching. anyone know how this could have happened. if the reinstall doesnt work ill add more details.

[opal lion]

launch game wih custom arguments?

ok it was because i was running the game as admin... why is that all of a sudden an issue?

[lavish mason]

Genuine question, how? At 4k native I presume?

I'm on 1440p native and no settings I change make the GPU use much more than 9gigs

Usually more like 8gig at epic textures etc

[quartz dust]

i think this question can belong here, is this mouse available in poland? cause i cannot find any online store that sells these. its this Clutch gm41 lightweight wireless stalker 2 edition

[fluid wagon]

1080p game will use just about 15-16 gb on medium settings

[rapid umbra]

is anybody facing sever stuttering issue with fsr frame generation?(i am using 3070 gpu)

[coral token]

only found one site in poland that counts as official MSI supplier and they don't have it

[coral token]

I've also checked German and UK stores and haven't found not even ebay has one

[quartz dust]

maybe on "live" stores

[coral token]

hmm let me check one store here in Latvia

[quartz dust]

i will go sonn to vheck

[coral token]

nah only has standard not stalker 2 edition

I also checked the place in Germany that sold physical collectors and ultimate editions and they don't have either sadly

lol found this tho

sadly is collectors for xbox series x

but only 181 lol for physical one

[coral token]

found it in Australia for 130 AUD

[quartz dust]

australia....

330 zlotych... not bad

online?

[coral token]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196878471106

this def will deliver to you I have bought quad parts from ebay.com before lol

[lavish mason]

no it doesnt?

[coral token]

probably shipping will be another 40-60 tho and taxes

[quartz dust]

yea, but i see its us dollars

[fluid wagon]

literally my setup, what do you mean

[lavish mason]

im talkking about gpu ram not system ram

[coral token]

I think shipping from Australia is more expensive than US

[lavish mason]

possibly youre talking about system ram usage

[fluid wagon]

i am

or i was anyway

[coral token]

since when you refer to GPU vram as ram lol

I got 16gb vram and 32gb ram

[lavish mason]

its all ram innit

[coral token]

not really no

[lavish mason]

im amazed people talk about system ram usage rather than vram usage

[quartz dust]

first i'll look in polish store komputronik... but still thx for help

[coral token]

checked it doesn't have in online catalog

[quartz dust]

4 vram and 16ram lol

[fluid wagon]

we've passed over vram usage for some time now

[lavish mason]

whos we?

[quartz dust]

i saw it also

[coral token]

sometimes stalker 2 eats 22gb ram for me at 1440p all epic

[lavish mason]

how much vram

[coral token]

mostly around 15-17gb now vram usually around 11-13gb

[lavish mason]

weird youre 3 to 5 gb more usage than me in vram at the same settings

i assume you havnt turned hairworks down to sensible

[coral token]

I have everything maxed lol

and I run frame gen

[coral token]

how much I know about Latvian BalticData shop online has far more than local shops in at least terms of actual parts and equipment for pcs

[coral token]

p sure that was when I was in hub not just running around

after 1.1.3 actually performance is worse for me

[lavish mason]

ive adjusted settings and nothing causes me to go over 10 gig vram usage

weird lil things. hate modern engines ngl

[coral token]

my gpu has 16gb I can let the game use whatever it wants as long as it's not 16gb

[lavish mason]

same

ialways turn down hairworks though because lol lmao why lose 10 to 20 fps for hair

[coral token]

oddly only mem leaks I've encountered and that was on 1.0.2 was inventory one

1.1.3 with the botched shader compile tho

seen some weird things with that and how it affected the game itself

especially after I deleted old shader files

do not do that lmao

rather turn off shader loading and play as you used to

[lavish mason]

every time.

youd think the error message popup would be enabled forever but no, every time i start the fcking game it tries to run, hangs, needs forced closing THEN they give me the skip shader compilation skip. so dumb

[coral token]

and that tanks your performance

[lavish mason]

nah, just loads the game without half the assets for half a minute, i get the joy of opening an invisible map or sometimes seeing underground sections miles off. minute or so in its back to normal

[coral token]

I don't like that honestly I prefer proper shader warmup

[lavish mason]

if it worked and didnt take forever. or hang

cant even launch the gamre today. its hanged, i force close it, now steam thinks its still running

[coral token]

force close

[undone sun]

I don't get why shader comp has to happen every startup.

[lavish mason]

i did force close, its closed./ steam thinks its still running

[coral token]

it's not comp it's warmup

[lavish mason]

even after restarting steam

[coral token]

in steam press close check processes

[lavish mason]

you really think i didnt do that

[coral token]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/97 install this mod

[undone sun]

Huh? There's a difference? I always thought those terms were interchangeable.

[lavish mason]

i refuse to install a mod to get the game to launch

[coral token]

I wait for 1.1.4 or whatever is next

[lavish mason]

mostly i force close and rerun and it works with the popup message, jsut sometimes if im not fast enough it just fcks all my sht up

[coral token]

no, one is compile which sets up shaders for your system based on game, other is just finding said compile and applying it to your game aka warmup

[lavish mason]

im literally only trying to run it right now to heat up a pot of polyfilla sat on top of my pc, gotta fill some scratches in the plaster today! turns out stalker 2 generates the most heat

[undone sun]

lol

[lavish mason]

heaven benchmark and cpu z 100% cpu usage stress will ahve to do. alas room not toasty yet

[coral token]

oddly my system doesn't hit over 60c both cpu and gpu lol while running stalker 2

[lavish mason]

my cpu is low 50s, gpu mid 60s, hotspot maybbe gets to 85 before more fazns kick in

[coral token]

then again I have full tower case with 7 system fans 3 intake 4 exhaust

[lavish mason]

im in itx case with a 240 aio

[coral token]

cpu is on large air cooler

after my 2 failed aios I don't trust them if I'll go liquid I'll go custom and make sure no metal mixing happens

[lavish mason]

that makes no sense to me but ok

[coral token]

copper block aluminium rad is what ruined both aio

gunked up pump and rad

[lavish mason]

meh when the aio dies ill get a new one

[coral token]

that's the funny thing

large heatsink air cooler doesn't die lol

[lavish mason]

have you seen how tramps treat their pcs though? air coolers filled with tar coated dust for days

[coral token]

mine has 120mm fans

[lavish mason]

as long as a bit of tender loving care my aio will last for ages. not as long as the old noctua air cooler but hey ho

smol case, came with power supply and aio, super strong temps. cant comp[lain yet

[coral token]

well that's also about where your pc is located if it's on floor that has carpet or floor and you have pets that will mess it up

[lavish mason]

have swapped the aio fans for noctua of course

[coral token]

as pc will draw in lots of that dust and fur

[lavish mason]

its filtered and not sat on carpet, its on some wood

[coral token]

mine is on desk

floor is parquet

[lavish mason]

but yeah i built this thing, not my first rodeo. i have seen some pre built pcs owned by kids anf they are filthy

[coral token]

I do not trust pre builts

[lavish mason]

see also every gaming laptop ever

[coral token]

salem techspert

that guy constantly shows those lol

[lavish mason]

is he the greatest technicial that ever lived?

[coral token]

yes

[lavish mason]

the polyfilla is warming. we are gonna have to be productive soon

[coral token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW7g-chJ7_A

you do CAD?

[lavish mason]

god no

i havnt even opened a spreadsheet for decades. im basically a pen and paper scribhbler who happened to pick uppc gaming.

[coral token]

I have learned about it know how to work it but don't have smart enough machines that could use it lmao

at most I can stare at the model and mill it manually

I have an older soviet lathe and vertical mill

I'd say from 60s or 70s will double check when in country side

[lavish mason]

id love to learn to laythe ngl.

[coral token]

wood lathes are not expensive while metal ones haha leave your lung or something for one

well what I know the 2 I have go for around 4k euro together

and these are some 60-70 year old machines

lathe is a bit cheaper than a mill tho

and well CNC mill is 30k plus

[lavish mason]

i can get all my cnc satisfactio nwatching aVeworks

[coral token]

AvE?

[lavish mason]

yep

skookum as frig. been with him since the early days of the juice squeezing boondongle

[coral token]

AvE for all the CNC physicsduck for all the electricals

[lavish mason]

juicero lol

my electronics dude is big clive

[coral token]

I follow AvE long before CNC lol

[lavish mason]

same

tool takeaparts

[coral token]

still salty about him getting that Hilti for basically free

I mean dude hit a jackpot on it

[lavish mason]

mans got more grinders than i own cutlery

[coral token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eb1DJx87E I think was this one

yup 1 dollar

[lavish mason]

god damn it. my DIY attempt foiled instantly. filler nice and warm, shame my spreader just contaminated it with fcking rust. those nice smooth but brown stains on my wall sure look worse tha nthe minor plaster scratches

[coral token]

damn

[lavish mason]

aVe would be proud

im slyly cursing my dad for not having like, some old school campher block in his ancient tool box to evapourate and coat all the tools

god damn boomers

[coral token]

I'm glad I have bunch of angry pixie dust tools tbh

mostly thanks to grandpa and dad plus space where to use all of it

[lavish mason]

yeah all my tools are stolen from the GPO, British telecom so of decent quality

[coral token]

now me and dad mostly fixing up one car tho

[lavish mason]

the meters and testers, bit old school ngl

im a ethernet wrangler. i just run cables, test em, fix em.

[coral token]

how often you get to deal with split fibre?

[lavish mason]

i dont do glass fibre, or more like i cant afford the splicing machine

[coral token]

ah fair enough but man that is headache

[lavish mason]

so copper only. shame cos theres defo a gap for all the tree surgeons damaging fibre

i just cant justify dropping 5 grand on a single tool i might use 5 times a year

[coral token]

can't find cheaper somewhere?

[lavish mason]

iim sure eventually. or find an openreach engineer willing to have one stolen from his van

[coral token]

found this
https://www.amazon.com/Optical-Splicer-Original-Splicing-Machine/dp/B0D8VR8T3F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.87_Vo0CM0Pft3nKKmWidadDbo8T_JV1y-iYt-Hg9auBstjWgVzl9xNr8ZqK_D4YmgTtuVn7RSo9BqFOxbN4Gq-mpLeoTkgTSgG9PTMJkGC9C56yjfmv87umb03KfVSIQkEWC5sWiiq6tQoAgH4GGPpeW8T5-pmVgxtQxrbK6IatxLQkh-NWF7dvnLBQrBO8h3j-68B6FF8_MG5qP2wK1YtRXyfa9wfpWBTIu5IcLgxV1IP5AyDkTQsCXLci9rQqtHhJt1xqOulk3dJ1uxheUhXx5G8KxBwsi0DjEjUy9uLw.KuabIu2JbvxDuqwWEX-a0ETfNfTPzLcRVrrWWNnStUs&dib_tag=se&keywords=fusion+splicer&qid=1736168322&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[lavish mason]

yeah thats getting m,ore reasonable but still 2 grand 😄 id be avble to charge about £150 max per repair at the very best

[coral token]

so around 15 repairs and you break even

[lavish mason]

yeah which is shit when youre a sole trader on limited turnover

[coral token]

well found one for 600 as well but not sure how good it would that be

[lavish mason]

but half that price then maybe. its just priced daft for what it is

[coral token]

https://www.amazon.com/Signal-fire-Automatic-Intelligent-Splicing/dp/B0B9S6DT4N/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.87_Vo0CM0Pft3nKKmWidadDbo8T_JV1y-iYt-Hg9auBstjWgVzl9xNr8ZqK_D4YmgTtuVn7RSo9BqFOxbN4Gq-mpLeoTkgTSgG9PTMJkGC9C56yjfmv87umb03KfVSIQkEWC5sWiiq6tQoAgH4GGPpeW8T5-pmVgxtQxrbK6IatxLQkh-NWF7dvnLBQrBO8h3j-68B6FF8_MG5qP2wK1YtRXyfa9wfpWBTIu5IcLgxV1IP5AyDkTQsCXLci9rQqtHhJt1xqOulk3dJ1uxheUhXx5G8KxBwsi0DjEjUy9uLw.KuabIu2JbvxDuqwWEX-a0ETfNfTPzLcRVrrWWNnStUs&dib_tag=se&keywords=fusion%2Bsplicer&qid=1736168322&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

[lavish mason]

yeah exactly. nothing worse than cheap tools that yocant rely on. had plenty of them. buy cheap buy twice etc

[coral token]

this one is like 670 dollhairs

well some cheap tools can last but most of times stay away from them

[lavish mason]

i need to do more research, maybe its something for next year

[coral token]

can say that lidl own brand tools the ones on 20v are pretty solid tbh

[lavish mason]

i have an aldi special sds drill, itsx corded and breaks through brick like a tank

[coral token]

only downside is lidl doesn't run tools constantly so it's sort of hawking them constantly what they stock

[lavish mason]

for the small amount of short time drilling i do its fine. replaced the last cheapo one i got which died in a 300 year old 2 foot thick farm wall

an inch from breaking through ,the clutch burned out. left my comically long 3 foot drill bit at head height embedded in their wall for a bit, wasnt the best

i have good quality hand tools at least

[coral token]

I have from lidl compressor 50l also plasma cutter 3 welders can say original stick was shit added a pc fan to it works better now

most hand tools drill bits sockets etc. I buy professional stuff not cheap

[lavish mason]

random woodworking stuff id use once a summer like clamps etc, i check the aldi and lidle mdddle isles for cos cant beat their price per use costs

but my work hand tools are knipex and , er currently enjoying the screwdrivers of wera

[coral token]

need to buy new torque wrench the one I got years ago in Aldi finally kicked bucket on the center lug nut of a axle shaft

[lavish mason]

i got a torque wrench for my bike from a closing down sale this summer. it broke instantly

refunded without having to send it back, its fine for torques less than 10nm

[coral token]

lesson learned don't use torque wrench to unbolt stuff

since am actually a chef got like that free knife lmao

[lavish mason]

i was bolting up my wheels and it jsut kept letting me tighten. terrifying new carbon frame bike scenes

[coral token]

I mean am not gonna complain about not sending back a global brand knife

especially when said thing cost me 300 euro

a bit wrong profile on the handle side edge is the only issue nothing difficult to fix

[lavish mason]

its yours. who would have a hand me down chefs knife!

now all the industrial grade food mixers one acquires, thats jsut what the game is all about

[coral token]

I have industrial grade sous vide and vacuum packer

[lavish mason]

lovely 😄

[coral token]

also one of them isi whipping bottles the one that's thermal

damn expensive things those bottles but that's the fastest whipped cream for sure

[lavish mason]

yeah..... for cream.....

[coral token]

can do a lot with it can foam sauces etc. as well

only downside is co2 cartridges

[lavish mason]

i bet you have also acquired a kitchens worth of oven trays and maybe even some steel racking

[coral token]

nah oven trays don't work in standard ovens home ones

then I need to haul one oven too but what I do have is this thing

[lavish mason]

got yourself an industrial dish cleaner yet?

the dishwasher that uses more energy and heat than the reast of the home combined! why not

use it to wash your car parts

[coral token]

https://eshop.diversey.com.pl/en-GB/product/j2500-water-powered-sprayer-1pc-1204490 I got this tbh

2 path chemical addition water sprayer that can deal with 60c water

[lavish mason]

siiiiiick. i dont know what id use it for but id be pro as fck while doing it

becoming the king of street water fights probably

[coral token]

at work we use it to wash large pans and the large industrial dishwashers

sometimes also floor and bins

[lavish mason]

release teh schmoo

[coral token]

they changed it out and I got old one at most need to just replace some orings lmao

got with the whole hose as well

I mean considering I got the unit itself some 10meter hose and the gun I did a good deal for free

I want to get one of them dishwasher sink shower assemblies lol

[lavish mason]

it puts the lotion in the basket or its gets the hose

[coral token]

nah this thing is just mounted on wall connected to both hot and cold water somehow itself makes pressure

it sucks air in while pulling water through and hence creates pressured water flow

oh am wrong it's either 15m or 25m

saw one not too long ago go for auction in Sweden went for 3k

[lavish mason]

cash money!

[coral token]

so def not cheap

most of that kitchen equipment ngl is a lot of cash and overall how much regulations etc. go in that type of business is just honestly too much headache to start business in that field

[lavish mason]

amazing how much better built/more expensive commercial equipment is

[coral token]

I'm better off changing tires and balancing wheels lmao

what baffles me are those home sous vides with bluetooth and internet

like why you need that kind of stuff literally toss your vacuum bag in water put the machine it set time go and forget about it check that there's enough water

you can get industrial decent sous vide for roughly same price as home one that will be able to run 50l tank of water

I'd say only downside is the size of it itself but upside is I can chuck in 10kg of meat and run the machine fine

in this one hotel I worked we had one sous vide work 24/7 lol non stop just changing what is in it that's all

[lavish mason]

Had a customer with 2 WiFi enabled ovens In their kitchen. Some people just have more money than Sense. Same people who will be buzzing over a new apple ai phone

[lavish mason]

That's why the commercial stuff is pricey but worth it. It can run all the time reliably. Imagine a home gamer sous vide and how quickly it's gonna die after the third or fourth day of non stop running

[coral token]

yep honestly why I don't recommend anyone to get those home sous vides lol

[rare temple]

This modifies the graphical settings that you can't set via in-game settings options. It helps increase the FPS for lower-level-end GPUs like the GTX-1660.

You download it and place the engine.ini file in the appropriate folder, depending on which version of the game you are using.

Steam\EPIC\GOG - %localappdata%\Stalker2\Saved\Config\Windows
PC Game Pass - %localappdata%\Stalker2\Saved\Config\WinGDK

You can overwrite the engine.ini in there if it exists. Either way, just copy the engine.ini contained in the zip file you download from Nexus Mods into the appropriate folder based on which version of the game you are playing.

[rare temple]

Yeah, he's on a GTX-1660. I've tried the mod you've suggested and it's not for potato GPUs like the GTX-1660. 😄

QMQZ's is the best one I've found for GPU's like the GTX-1660. Nothing else provides the performance, and keeps as much graphical fidelity as possible. I've made a few other tweaks myself in it, such as enabling some Lumen inside it so that indoors will get dynamic lighting, rather than having Lumen completely turned off, which gives the interiors a brighter lighting where you don't even need to turn on the flashlight. That pretty much kills the immersion.

However, you'll definitely reduce the memory leaks for sure. With my tweaks, I still get memory leaks inside settlements which I can clear up with just pausing the game. I'll take that for now over not having any dynamic Lumen lighting happening inside buildings, caves, etc.

[agile harbor]

Its just an Engine.ini that someone pre-made. You can generate your own if you want. https://github.com/ColesyM/S2SettingsGenerator/releases/tag/1.2.0

[jade grotto]

Do you need a ini file if your running a top end machine?

[agile harbor]

Only if you want to push things further than Epic

I used the above to generate an Ultra preset that really made my system hurt

But now i'm running no Engine.ini at all and instead using Ultra Plus for the visual improvement

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/484

The inclusion of Ray Reconstruction for a denoiser is worth it, along with tweaking reflections.

[hallow lintel]

Didn't know Ray Reconstruction works on software Lumen, thought that was hardware only

[agile harbor]

It certainly seems to work to some extent as a general denoiser. https://i.imgur.com/Ro0e4hX.png

[coral token]

I'm now installing a lot of mods tbh since vanilla stalker 2 1.1.3 is lacking

[fleet wraith]

yeah I swapped over from engine.ini to this and it's been good

[grizzled drift]

Recently been using DLDSR 2.25x to get 5160x2160 with DLSS on my ultrawide monitor, looks pretty nice

Up from 3440x1440

[grizzled drift]

and yes RR does work and helps with denoising, however it can cause visual artifacts in reflections sometimes, I use it too

basically a trade off between having noise or artifacts

[glass vault]

amd keynote kinda disapointing their cpu tech was new mobile chips and the 9950x3d but not a single word on their gpus

[agile harbor]

Huh, I don't think i've noticed. I do love the reflections combined with Ultra Plus.

[agile harbor]

lol another discord i'm in they're ranting and raving over Strix Halo

its neat but like.. who's actually buying it

[grizzled drift]

It's pretty minor for the most part and only in some areas

[glass vault]

strix halo is gonna be nice rocking their strix point and its can do vr on a quest 2 but on the lowest settings

[agile harbor]

If Minisforum makes a board like this with it, it would be a pretty sick mini PC. https://store.minisforum.com/cdn/shop/files/BD795iSE_8.png?v=1735540102&width=800

[glass vault]

the only part i care about is the APU since that can remove bad pricing for everyone on gpus. if strix point can beat 1050tis and strix halo is double the count it could kick out 3050 tiers

oh definitly gonna want to use these chips in a homelab just because of how efficent they are

i heard a little of FSR4 comming q1 2025 but nothing about rdna 4 maybe delay on fsr4 or rdna 4 and they want to release them together?

[agile harbor]

That would make sense

[glass vault]

pretty clear nvidia is gonna release their gpus today/ announce since rumor being they were gonna release 50 series in december if amd was going to.

i thought they were gonna bring out lisa su to announce rdna 4 but no it dell the company everyone hates because of how jank their laptops and desktops are to repair

[agile harbor]

I dunno about release, but at least announce xx80/xx90

[glass vault]

they were prepped to launch earlier but only if amd did the same for competitive reasons but now that amd hasn't even annouced rdna 4 nvidia launch could be delayed longer but i assume not because of being the top dog and being able to milk the money before amd renters

[agile harbor]

If AMD had shown off new cards today, i'm sure they would have put their foot in it again and priced them too high.

They're allergic to market share.

[glass vault]

i mean nvidia does it too where they announce higher pricing via rumors to gauge how the people react then lower it to make people feel better because it wasn't as bad

[glass vault]

its hard to get more market share when nividia has been the only good choice for over a decade until 2016ish

then pricing went up for nvidia and amd took advantage of it more and more

[agile harbor]

AMD is a fine choice, they just need to price to sell and stop trying to play Nvidia's game. They can't win.

They do this continually. Announce at some stupid price then drop months after release

They will make nothing on the cards but they need to get them in people's hands.

[glass vault]

makes sense since early production is more costly then slowly drops as time goes on amd seems to be passing the savings while nividia never does

[agile harbor]

Pricing is how they achieve that.

[glass vault]

annnd keynote is ended and no GPUs

[agile harbor]

welp

[uneven portal]

yep

300/350 euros is like to much

[glass vault]

they didn't even annouce enterprise gpus so im guessing rdna 4 is still in the polish stage

since they could've gotten away with enterprise release but held back on gaming

[glass vault]

@agile harbor ok apparently they skipped over it in the keynote but gamers nexus had embargo lift and explained fsr4 and the 9070xt and 9070 but half of it is explaining the new naming

[agile harbor]

Yeah I'm hearing it was cut from the presentation at the last minute

[glass vault]

It wasn't anything Intresting no rough estimates and far4 was just saying better nothing else

[uneven portal]

"I hope people are aware that it's not worth paying more just for Fsr 4.0"

[glass vault]

yeah its not like nvidia where the lock it down to their hardware

[hard juniper]

i don't think anyone would take that from amd lol, at least nvidia has the performance to back it up

[glass vault]

they also lock it down to their hardware so its easier to justify buying green than red

[uneven portal]

If we are currently at such a difficult point in the GPU market, it is exactly because of people who buy without thinking.

I expect anything

[tawny thicket]

FSR 4 seems to be locked to RDNA4

and we also have a build of the FSR4 DLL

[raw sleet]

I want upscaling to just go away.. all of it; native4life

[tawny thicket]

Sadly never happening

[raw sleet]

yeah, the industry seems to be nutting all up in their pants over it anymore

"Lets just optimize it for 720p - they can upscale after that" -modern game devs, probably

[uneven portal]

It bothers me that something supposedly situational and a last resort like DLSS is now mandatory to use in Stalker 2 and all the new games.

[tawny thicket]

LOL

[hard juniper]

clearly the solution is to simply buy a better computer (and then say it runs fine on your system)

[spare coral]

Another game that basically forced you to use upscaling on mid end builds was final fantasy xvi

[agile harbor]

Hopefully not as confusing as DLSS. History lesson.

-DLSS 1.0, ass. (though I used it to great effect in Cyberpunk at launch)
-DLSS 2.0, fantastic improvement. If starting from a base high resolution (aka not 1080p) you can have a really good experience with a bump in performance on the Quality mode.
-DLSS 3.0, still just DLSS 2.0 + Frame Generation
-DLSS 3.5, still just DLSS 2.0 + FG + Ray Reconstruction

So the base upscaling tech while it has seen some minor tweaks, hasn't had any major changes. That being said, what would they change in the first place?

[lone niche]

No matter what I do the game just looks horrible and its really disheartening because I love the gameplay and story so far. I get genuine eyestrain from how weird and freaky it looks at times, flickering lights, pixelated shadows, I have absolutely no idea how to fix half of these problems either. Not to mention the egregious pop in of foliage. I have a 3070 so my options are limited to say the least with 8 gigs of VRAM, but I wish it would look at least passable :(

All I really want at this point is just a clear image that runs somewhat well at 40 fps or above

or to stop these shadows from flickering OMG

[lone niche]

I think I found an okayish fix, shadow quality and shading quality both at epic seem to fix most of the shadow flickering and pixelation with little performance impact

[outer sundial]

Hi, didn’t play that master piece for a month now. Today started the game and getting crashes in shaders loading screen, maybe fix or its only for me?

[lone niche]

it just happens, no fix other than keep trying should work eventually

[outer sundial]

After game restart its works, but after this 110gb update how is this possible? 😂

[lone niche]

idk I don't work at GSC

I imagine there are many problems with the game hopefully they will all be resolved in time

[outer sundial]

Love the game, hopefully. Any coming dates for next patch?

[spare coral]

Nothing yet

[vague nexus]

Hi, you guys recommend use Frame Generation? My game runs "good" without that option, when and activate it looks a little bit more blurry but gain more fps, is it good in overall?

[uneven portal]

"If you're going above 40/50 fps as a base, go ahead. The biggest drawback is really the latency, but with those fps, you shouldn't feel it as much." (a pero si eres makf jajaja)

[hard juniper]

it's subjective, you get "smoother" gameplay but more input lag. If you like it use it

[livid spade]

@vestal tusk masked link right here, sus af ^

[vestal tusk]

thank you

[rare temple]

Scam!

[vestal tusk]

gone

they lost their account so banned

[livid spade]

Np, didn't want someone who doesn't know to check the URL to get tricked by low effort scams lol

[vestal tusk]

appreciate you looking out for the community

[rare temple]

Yeah, I ran it through a URL checker and it redirected to stemncommunty.com domain. It was categorized as phishing. Probably if you logged in with your Steam account, kiss it goodbye.

[vestal tusk]

💀

i am honestly impressed folks fall for it

[livid spade]

Didn't even do that, with masked links you can just hover over the text to check the URL on Discord. Super low effort scam, at least make a proper URL so I HAVE to run it through a URL checker to see how it's classified as lol

[rare temple]

Where I work, our security team sends out fake "phishing" emails. You're supposed to click on the "Report Phish" button in Outlook to report it. If you do, it will come back with a message congratulating you on reporting a test phishing email. If you click on the link though, you'll get a different message, and then you have to go through a cyber security training course online. If you do it multiple times in the same year, you can get worse punishment, up to and including getting fired. It's amazing how many people at work still fall for it. I just click the "Report Phish" button any time it's from an external source that I don't know at all.

@vestal tusk looks like the same message is in the Spoiler PC specs as well.

[livid spade]

That's actually impressive, most of the LP/Security training we get at places I've worked is "don't do anything that seems fishy" and they're done with it for a year. Probably different industries though XD

[rare temple]

I'm in IT in the utility industry, so it's a BIG issue with phishing.

[livid spade]

Yeah I can see that, been thinking about learning Cyber Security but I refuse to go to college for it cuz debt and I hate 90% of the way professors teach subjects lol

[rare temple]

My oldest daughter followed me and went into IT and works for a medical company. She moved into Cyber Security, but she has since moved on into their virtualization department with Azure and AWS. She likes that a lot more because she has a lot more to keep her busy. She felt like she wasn't getting good work in cyber security.

[livid spade]

Yeah, Cyber Security can get rough from what I've heard but it's also one of the few areas where freelancing is huge for tech. It's just one of the few tech areas I'm actually interested in as far as work goes though. I love to tinker with the internals of PCs but I'd never do it as a job cuz I know it'd ruin my love of doing it on my own time and nerding out.

[rare temple]

30+ years for me and I'm ready to retire. 6 more years before I hit the right age to retire though. lol!

[livid spade]

I need to get on that grind then lol but self-learning is difficult when all the resources are so hard to actually get to without going through a learning institution of some sort xD I'll get it figured out though. I follow some folks on YT who shout out resource spots like OWASP to their audience.

[glass vault]

really all i saw as buillt for rdna 4

[tame hound]

This is exactly what it is for my job lol “make sure the link you are clicking isn’t a phish” but they actually phished their own employees to see who’d fall for it an a lot did lol

[livid spade]

Lmao I'd love a test like that just cuz I'd pass it every time XD

[hollow kettle]

Random question I am curious about…is Ventus 2x OC rtx 4060 one of the better versions or is it just a fancy name msi slapped on it?

I tried researching a bit but didn’t find any kind of comparison between 4060 brands/models

[glass vault]

Try to find the lowest price for a 4060 it's never worth to buy higher end models just upgrade to the next GPU tier

[hollow kettle]

I am only curious bc I got a deal on prebuilt for Black Friday and it came with this brand 4060 in it

I plan to upgrade it within next year or so anyway but I am just genuinely curious since my gpu clock hovers at 2715mhz when gaming (& I haven’t OC or tweaked anything) and everywhere online I see 1800-2400mhz being normal 4060 clock speed. Guessing mine is at least mid-tier or maybe on higher end of 4060s?

[glass vault]

OC stands for overclocked it is boosted a bit

[hollow kettle]

Thanks for info

[tame hound]

I couldn’t believe people fell for the “this is ups reaching out because we attempted to deliver a package blah blah please click the link below from- [e-mail]”

[livid spade]

I get those texts but the only time I almost fell for it was actually when I had a package that was a month late, but then I looked through my email to double check and I had no email therefore I used the Report as Spam and Block feature of my phone xD

[glass vault]

I trust geek squad who is trying to sell me pills for ED. Yes this is a email I got for months from fake geek squad

[vague nexus]

Thank you Vlad jeje

[tame hound]

shit thats fake?

awkward......

[glass vault]

I know right it was only 49.99 a month

Time to see MSRP for the 5090

[agile harbor]

here we go

[hollow kettle]

I’m so confused how my vram usage with high settings + frame gen enabled is 7.5-7.6gb. I disabled it and lowered settings basically to medium & disabled frame gen and vram usage still 7.4-7.5gb ??

Happens in this game and cyberpunk same exact thing

Might as well run higher settings with frame gen atp I still get 50-60 without fg

[glass vault]

I think my theory of the neural network part reducing textures on memory was right. In that showing on the dlss 4 example

Ok the new design looks pretty slick

Wait the 5090 is dual slot

4090 = to 5070 claim

Did anyone else hear the smoke detector beep?

[grizzled drift]

Just came here to say I knew the 5090 would be $1999

[glass vault]

Sadly yeah but 1k for the 5080 which is surprising no price increase

[grizzled drift]

to me 2k isn't a bad thing but yeah

[glass vault]

The pricing for the 5090 makes sense since it's double of the 5080

[snow torrent]

5080 price for today's standards is very very nice.. but if you see the difference too the 5090.. Men it's crazy

[glass vault]

I'm glad the lower tiers didn't get a price hike

[flat brook]

Damn, that was way less hectic than I expected it to be.

Still on the fence about 4090 performance out of a 5070, likely because of AI/Scaling nonsense

[agile harbor]

Ok, well, 5090 day one. I'm sold. Did you see that PCB?? Its so tiny!

[flat brook]

But, that 5080 does look Juicy, don’t even think I’m gonna go for the 5090 anymore

[glass vault]

He brought a GPU shield lmao

[uneven portal]

5070 500? wow amd what hapened

[wooden rapids]

a goddam 20 000$ wayfer

[glass vault]

Captian price hike nvidias last hope

I mean it's pretty funny if it is a real wafer that they are treating as a shield

Explain dlss 4 more I want to understand the texture and memory numbers

[flat brook]

Once the benchmarks are out with native res tests in particular, I’ll decide whether or not I deem the 5080 a sufficient enough upgrade

[glass vault]

If they didn't remove nvlink dual 5080 is the better deal

[snow torrent]

I'm definitely going for the 5090. I'm just too into this sh!t

[flat brook]

Think it might be the better deal regardless of the 16GB VRAM, just basing it off CUDA and Floating point power alone

[wooden rapids]

it is jensen, I am not surprised. New leather jacket lol

[glass vault]

It will be since they got faster mem speeds than everything else

14tb of memory god damn

[flat brook]

[wooden rapids]

that is not 20 000 dollars

[glass vault]

Much more eventful than amd

[flat brook]

9800X3D + 5080 and a server rig with a 13700K + 4070, gonna be a hell of a year for sim racing/flying

[snow torrent]

just imagine he is in the top ten richest persons in the world 🤣

[wooden rapids]

it is 50 000 dollars, every single rectangle is a blackwell chip. i see 40, that is at least 50 000$

[flat brook]

What was up with their nonsense keynote, literally had 0 data

[glass vault]

They removed GPU last minute from what I heard. But it was mainly cpus

[flat brook]

Ah, nice one Su

[snow torrent]

amd was a really bad keynote

[flat brook]

Heard about the 9900/9950X3Ds, no info on dual CCD V-cache yet I presume?

[glass vault]

Su was also a no show

[uneven portal]

1070 was 450, 5070 is 550 not that bad (but 12 vram meh)

[flat brook]

Prices are good all things considered, 5090 excluded

[uneven portal]

maybe, but the vram.... i dont need this gpus for now

[flat brook]

That is if they can keep the supply up with demand and retailers don’t go crazy

[glass vault]

5090 should've gotten the 30gbps speed like the 5080 is

[uneven portal]

consumption is such that I will pay more for electricity to play than to cook.

[glass vault]

Jan 30th seems to be launch date

Is no one gonna talk about how the 5090 they brought out was 2 slot

[grizzled drift]

Bro same

[flat brook]

I haven’t run into a single game/sim that’s tried to cross my 16Gig threshold, native, so I’m not worried about the 12/16 gigs at the moment.

Case in point I’m also not someone who flocks to new AAA titles everytime they release

[grizzled drift]

Forreal its so small

[flat brook]

What

[glass vault]

THE FOUNDERS EDITION IS DUAL SLOT MAYBE A LITTLE BIGGER SO 3 SLOT OF SPACE FOR AIRFLOW ADDED

We getting small form pcs again

[grizzled drift]

Its basically a 2 slot 5090

[flat brook]

What the fuck..

[glass vault]

From what I heard it's a 575w tdp

[snow torrent]

that's one thing I'm really concerned about. 600w pulling and it's smaller then a 4090..lets hope it's cooling management is so good that the fans not running like the chnpp

[flat brook]

I was not expecting Nvidia to actually kind of deliver

[glass vault]

I want them to compare the 4090-5090

[flat brook]

Price to performance might not be that far off from AMD if retailers behave and supply keeps up

[glass vault]

This might be why AMD canned their GPU announcement

[flat brook]

I’m kind of worried about AMD at the moment, at least in the GPU segment

[snow torrent]

I say there will be no chance to get a 5090 founders edition...

yes me too

[flat brook]

Yeah don’t expect to grab nearly anything Q1, maybe even Q2

[glass vault]

I gotta be able to snag one q1 otherwise won't be able to

Or I extend my college one more semester

[wooden rapids]

time to replace the 7900xtx

[glass vault]

7900xtx to the server pc. Don't abandon the footstool pc

[snow torrent]

I mean I was getting 4090 with the help of telegram bots and also discord.. but I don't know if it will work this time

[hearty pollen]

Wait 5090 is ~2k usd? That's significantly better than I assumed

[flat brook]

I hope I’ll be able to get my hands on the 5080 in February, but stock here is usually slow as hell, only now getting decent supply of 9800X3Ds, and GPUs are usually much worse

[austere crane]

so do we have a date for the 5090 release yet? not that it matters.....

[glass vault]

End of month

[wooden rapids]

the hell can a 7900XTX do aside from rasterizing some goddam video game anyway, AI generation performance is abysmal.

[uneven portal]

Sadly, I won't be able to buy one. I need VRAM for my projects, and where I live, taxes will raise the price to 300 +euros.

[glass vault]

Expensive video player and transcoder

[glass vault]

I feel that need it for college projects

[uneven portal]

I'm a graphic designer and a 3D modeler, even if it might sound silly 😭

[wooden rapids]

Maybe I get a board with 8x/8x gen5 bifurcation and use the xtx as a video player to power the up coming 480hz oled and crap

[glass vault]

I'm doing deep learning for class dont want to use their slow 2015 Xeon servers for it

[wooden rapids]

average nvidia w

[snow torrent]

the webpage for 5000 is online with benchmarks!!!

[austere crane]

the nvidia presentation is going on about how corporations can hire even fewer human beings, yaaaaaay!

[uneven portal]

I'll wait for more in-depth benchmarks. If it truly is as powerful as they say, AMD is done for.

[wooden rapids]

gg boys, that was a fun night. now we wait. But I vividly remember the 5070 beating the 4090 by using upscaling

[flat brook]

Link?

[hollow kettle]

Wonder how much the 40 series will drop in price If at all

[wooden rapids]

dude talking about replacing white collar workers with AI at a CONSUMER SHOW

CES literally stands for Consumer Electronic Show.

[flat brook]

Likely won’t, as it’s gone out of production and stock is dropping steadily

[wooden rapids]

Jensen is going to show up at 6:30 pm pst and unveil the most powerful consumer gpu known to man, cutting edge neural processing dlss4, and show it in fashion with a leather jacket with 3.5t market cap. Lisa su was so embarrassed she didn’t even show up everything besides 9800x3d is hella mid.

[glass vault]

Performance is so high because multi frame frame gen is the new tech

[hollow kettle]

Are all the prices released for 50 series?

[flat brook]

This is the part where Jensen needs to shut up, as is usually the case about halfway through his presentations

[snow torrent]

2329 Euro here in Germany

[glass vault]

Yes expect 60 class

[uneven portal]

They want all the people to have nvidia to take info for the New chat gpt nvidia versión

[hollow kettle]

How much is 5070 & is it more than 8gb vram?

Sorry I can just google lol my bad

[uneven portal]

12 (like shit)

[livid spade]

549 USD, think it has 12gb VRAM.

[wooden rapids]

he is a mega billionaire, he can do whatever he wants. I am pretty sure there is so such thing as class consciousness

[hollow kettle]

I might try to save for 5070 ti

If it is 16gb vram

[uneven portal]

12 for the 5070

[hollow kettle]

For 5070 ti??

[agile harbor]

that's wild

[flint spoke]

ngl i couldn't care less about new gpus, i need to buy a 9800x3d (or equivalent) way before I bother ever buying a new gpu

[flat brook]

Mega billionaire or not, plenty of companies have dug their graves with the way he behaves sometimes.

Sure, Nvidia is much less likely to be one of them, but no one is immune to stupidity, he’s smart enough to atleast know that

[wooden rapids]

B580 might have a 24gb version

[snow torrent]

5070ti is 16gb

[wooden rapids]

look at elon musk, dude is even more bombastic

[agile harbor]

I was watching, only saw these announced. https://i.imgur.com/lzSGAr6.png

oh, i'm dumb

[wooden rapids]

Jensen has ∞ aura

[hollow kettle]

All the videos I have seen testing intel arc gpus have shown them being significantly worse than nvidia & amd gpus

[flat brook]

Matter of time, he’s become increasingly unpopular in the last few years, there’s only so much you can say and do before things take a turn

[flint spoke]

people with 5700x's going to buy 5080s thinking their stalker 2 performance will improve

[glass vault]

Guess the 70 class also launches

[uneven portal]

I'm more concerned about NVIDIA doing well while AMD is dying off on its own; it's not good for consumers in the long run.

[flint spoke]

edit: ah yeah, i agree

[wooden rapids]

skills issue

Nvidia FTW

Jensen is an absolute Icon, he is the Taylor swift of the tech industry

[uneven portal]

Now we wait for the press benchmarks to see if there really are no tricks and if it's truly as powerful as NVIDIA claims.

[flint spoke]

i wake up every day thankful I was not born with a personality disorder like that mfer

[flint spoke]

goofy ngl

[wooden rapids]

signing boobs like a pop star

[glass vault]

Pretty sure their ai based claims are gonna be accurate gaming is always in the air

[flat brook]

Of course DLSS 4 is going to be involved, you don’t get 4090 performance with 8400 CUDA cores without the use of upscaling.

I’m more interested to see how well the raster performance compares, and then how good DLSS 4 performs both in terms of efficiency and visual quality

[uneven portal]

I wonder what the family dinner is like between Jensen and AMD's, since they are family.

[flint spoke]

i imagine they spend most of it laughing at how rich they are ngl

[glass vault]

Looked on the site dlss 4 is multi frame frame gen. So generation of more than a single frame

[late ferry]

chrznic has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[uneven portal]

If rasterization isn't good, I really won't care about this generation.

[glass vault]

5090 I think is the largest GPU die made

[flat brook]

You already don’t due to their VRAM capacity and the pricing in your area?

[plucky quail]

Anybody watching ces?

[flint spoke]

regardless of specs there is a 0% chance I will upgrade this gen, I will skip it no matter what. I don't need it

now 60 series, maybe, possibly.

[wooden rapids]

Well, it is chiplet so you can do so much more.

[flint spoke]

assuming I'm not broke

[plucky quail]

Ain’t the 5080 1000$

[glass vault]

Yeah but it's still compact in size no big gaps

[uneven portal]

people here are capable of buying the 4080 i have for 900 dollars since they have no idea about technology, that's why I'm waiting to see how it goes, otherwise I'll save myself the time loss

[flat brook]

It is, which is 200$ less than the 4080, two years later

[flint spoke]

4080 price was batshit insane tho

[wooden rapids]

600 USD should be fair price for a used XFX 7900XTX

[plucky quail]

So raster gonna be better right. I saw shader will be 1.5x faster

[uneven portal]

If it weren't because I'm Romanian, I wouldn't have had it (I'll spare the explanations)

[flint spoke]

alright most reacts i will ever get, ima head out at least 5070 pricing isnt too terrible which i guess is nice

[flat brook]

I’m gonna hand my 4070Ti-S to my wife, sell her 4070 then hopefully grab a 5080 near MSRP, which would end up being cheaper in that case than my 4070Ti-S initially

Gotta wait until February/March atleast, see the benchmarks and how supply holds up with retailers

[plucky quail]

There will be improvements I don’t know how much they rely on FG. Theoretically they could cut raster 4080 and just more FG for the gains

[pulsar nimbus]

Just got a 4080 Super the other day, I feel like it was probably still an alright purchase (especially since it was like $870). If something looks too good to be true, it probably is.

[uneven portal]

I still fear that NVIDIA wants to monopolize the market with the 5000/4000/3000 series to train its AI with everything we are doing, especially considering the performance when using applications like NVIDIA Experience. I expect anything.

[plucky quail]

The 5000 is the nail in the coffin for AMD by looks.

[uneven portal]

For me, the 5070 will cost 700 bucks and have 12GB of VRAM, so at least from my point of view, your purchase was a good one 🤣

[plucky quail]

Again AMD needs to scramble for Nvidias features and try to keep up.

[uneven portal]

1.149 € for me the 4080 now

[pulsar nimbus]

they aren't trying to, think that's starting to become more and more apparent

AMD is gunning for Intel's CPU share now.

[pulsar nimbus]

it is GDDR7 so it's probably still pretty beefy, but very curious they didn't talk about raw raster at all. it's all just AI upscaling. at least it seems not insanely priced.

[uneven portal]

Well, the positive side is that I think I'm going to get rich at this rate, I haven't looked at my NVIDIA stocks yet.

[plucky quail]

The thing is I don’t like a future there 90% of my screen is AI but I also see that it’s the future

[pulsar nimbus]

Yeah this doesn't feel great. On the surface it's nice for consumers but it's increasingly feeling like you're buying a $550 card to...basically stream the game.

[uneven portal]

I wouldn't mind if 90% of my screen was AI, if it weren't because I notice it.

[glass vault]

i will develop an AI but its completely by if than statements make it the most inefficent one yet

[uneven portal]

it's very noticeable how we've stopped being the consumer for NVIDIA.

[wooden rapids]

"u, ai engineer, go develop good big powerful AI"

pretty sure that is what all the Execs are doing

[glass vault]

Made a few neural networks but feel like feel learning is gonna be a rough one to learn

[uneven portal]

Autonomous vehicles so the insurance doesn't pay for your hospital.

[glass vault]

Looks like they are setting up themselves to be a data center to train other companies ai models

[bitter dagger]

why do I get 80-100fps in 2560x1440 windowed but 20fps in 3840x2160 fullscreen

[plucky quail]

That’s just like stalker 2 imagining stuff cus of the psi field don’t like it make me happy yes. But is it real no

[pulsar nimbus]

Maybe I'm being a grumpy old fart or something but I'm extremely suspicious about this line. Something has to be up with the lower end of these cards. Real interested to see what, exactly, the native rendering power is. Maybe they really do have a strong offering here but getting the sense it's not that clearcut.

[harsh blade]

I'm picking up my pc tomorrow morning, it's a Rx 6800 & Ryzen 7600, I'm thinking about med-high setting get above 60 FPS

[uneven portal]

The worst part is that Stalker 2 looks pretty bad, with all the garbage related to Lumen, DLSS, Frame Gen, TAA, it feels like I'm playing drunk sometimes.

[plucky quail]

I know that AMD has a similar thing like neural networks. Idk if they can scramble for competition

[golden frigate]

Do you have a good GPU?

[bitter dagger]

4060ti with 8GB vram

[harsh blade]

Since my monitor is 1080p

[bitter dagger]

i7-14700k, 16GB ram, and an SSD

[harsh blade]

Because I'm focusing on high frame rate

[plucky quail]

lol neutral network will help toggle it on.

[uneven portal]

ChatGPT moment, it just said it HAHA

[glass vault]

70 class is February

[plucky quail]

Guys do you think dlss will be available for RTX 4000? Or the same as dlss3

[pulsar nimbus]

4 is not on the last gen

[flat brook]

DLSS 4 will likely be limited to the 50 series

[glass vault]

They named it Groot waiting for the cease and desist from Disney

[uneven portal]

It’s probably available, otherwise they would have raised the price of the 5000 series to take advantage of that, or at least that's how I see it.

[glass vault]

Already limited proved on their website

[livid spade]

Only thing 40 series won't be able to use is Multi-Frame Generation according to Nvidia, otherwise nothing has changed.

[pulsar nimbus]

I bet it's locked to the 5000 series because they put a shitload more Tensor cores (or whatever the hell they're calling them now) on this line in lieu of raw raster

[uneven portal]

Really, that's the least important thing. If that technology doesn't come with the ability to control those frames, it will just be an input lag generator.

[plucky quail]

But the 5070 is as fast as 4090 so sounds like only for 5000. The same way they said 4070 is as fast as the 3090

[pulsar nimbus]

Frame Gen makes my skin crawl, it really should not be the standard to make games run well. Unfortunately-

[bitter dagger]

also why does the game use 99% of my GPU but only 20% of my CPU, isnt this game CPU heavy

[plucky quail]

Oh yea true lol

How they gonna fix that problem

[flat brook]

It can’t make use of all 8+ of your cores, 99% GPU usage is good

[bitter dagger]

AAAAAND my game keeps dropping to 20fps but when I pause and unpause it goes back up

[flat brook]

If you were above 50% total CPU usage I’d be very concerned. Average per core utilization is what you want to keep an eye on

[pulsar nimbus]

your 4060Ti is also sporting 8 GB VRAM, you basically need like 12 minimum to run this game at a reasonable clip with less stuttering

[bitter dagger]

🤯

[flat brook]

That’s you likely running out of VRAM, like most of the 8GB users are currently.

Goodluck stalker

[bitter dagger]

wtf man isnt 8GB enough I just upgraded from 3GB after like 6 years

[uneven portal]

they can't, and even if they gave you control over the frames, due to the nature of the technology, it would still produce input lag. These are frames completely separated from the graphics engine, and even if they manage to implement it, many studios, especially the smaller ones, won't be able to use it.

[plucky quail]

Nah you guys don’t have the vision u need to use neural rendering for the lack of vram

[uneven portal]

I’m 100% sure they’re going to release that garbage that uses AI to upscale textures.

[grizzled drift]

Elon musk Neural Link + 5090 Neural Rendering , I’ll have all the FPS I ever wanted

[plucky quail]

They already showed.

50% reduction of data size

[uneven portal]

Ugh, we’re heading towards a future where games will be simulators of nearsightedness.

[plucky quail]

According to Nvidia ofc

[uneven portal]

It really does, its existence has been known for 4 years, but they haven’t implemented it until now. On paper, it should work on any GPU, let's see what they come up with.

[plucky quail]

So a game that took 18gb and was over 5080 vram limit is only now 9gb but that would be if all is textures so maybe more 14gb

[glass vault]

Honestly I am supporting the smaller textures

[bitter dagger]

why tf do games use so much Vram

[glass vault]

With games needing more and more vram this might be the turning point to allow budget gamers to keep up with games now

[uneven portal]

Because optimization is an art that few know and no one wants to do

[plucky quail]

I saw that before and we where right that neutral rendering is just compression of texture

[bitter dagger]

games really need to get more slack for poor optimization

[uneven portal]

Honestly, it's such a basic thing that it's clear how AMD was preparing for its implementation by adding VRAM to their GPUs, and how NVIDIA lowered the bar to save on production costs.

[plucky quail]

Would not help the slightest your game gonna run still shit with 30fps

[uneven portal]

Oh, and they didn't show anything at the conference, woohoo

[plucky quail]

Wdym

lol over

[uneven portal]

Actually, VRAM usage can be controlled by lowering the texture quality, and that's it, no one died playing Metro Exodus, it's not that big of a deal. The problem will be with studios abusing NVIDIA's new and revolutionary technologies that are clearly not very consumer-friendly.

[plucky quail]

Welcome to cyberpunk where insurance will not cover cuz of AI. Where 90% what u see is fake and imagined. Where the poor can’t buy a GPU and the rich don’t care and buy the 5090. What a place ain’t I right

[uneven portal]

The golden era of the famous 900 series is over, when the 980 cost 550 euros. Whatever, I’ll have to settle for the 5080, which will probably cost around 1500 in Spain.

I'll send photos when they go on sale. The 4070 Ti was 1100 euros back in the day.

[plucky quail]

😐

[uneven portal]

Now it's worth 1000, temporarily discounted to 888.96 .

[plucky quail]

Can’t they stop using AI and start innovating in the hardware itself. I think raster this gen will be the smallest improvement over all the gen before

[uneven portal]

Let's be honest, we don't know for sure yet. Just by looking at the power consumption, it's clear it has rasterization potential. What worries me is how companies will use these AI-based technologies.

Maybe, seeing how naive we consumers are, we kind of deserve it.

[glass vault]

I mean not necessarily. Would prefer it over frame gen. Upscaling textures as a backup option for low end consumers is dope

[uneven portal]

Is not for low end consumers, is for multi billón game companys to take advantage and not optimize games, like frame gen, fsr, dlss... is the same all the time

[pulsar nimbus]

"Low end" is still $550 US, mind. That's not really low end, that's mid-tier.

Intel seems to be going after the very budget focused folks now.

[tawny thicket]

So i watched HUBs newest video on RDNA4/FSR4 and told HUB that the current version of FSR4 doesn't work on older cards but AMD is considering to bring FSR4 to older GPUs

[rough nimbus]

Can someone ELI5 why in some performance optimization mods some settings are located in different places and what's the implication of it?
For example, one mod has bOptimizeAnimBlueprintMemberVariableAccess=1 placed under the [/Script/Engine.Engine] section, while the other has it under the [ConsoleVariables] section.
Trying to merge the changes between different mod and stumbled upon this. Does it even matter?

[raw sleet]

Probably doesn't matter as long as one isn't cancelling out the other (both set to 1)

[opal lion]

so i tried a clean driver install, reseating my graphics card and then used nvidia overlay as a test. i still crashed at about an hour and 40 minutes of the game being launch. to make things even worse, i had stepped a way to use the bathroom so i was on the pause screen ffs. my gpu fans were working great. i never saw temps above 64 degrees c and i was never using more than 90% GPU or 20% cpu. If i am running out of Vram, what does that even mean with 12 gigs on a 3080Ti. how is everyone else not crashing within 20 min of game pay as the average consumer probably has 6-8 gigs of vram. also as a reminder this is the LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 880] crash

[raw sleet]

my 2080ti has 12gb; has the same "gpudevicermoved" fatal errors; sometimes can go for an hour or two; sometimes 10 minutes.. honestly i'm baffled; I'm almost positive it's my GPU dying, but it could be these latest nvidia drivers

each one of these crashes is a TDR as well fwiw; you'll find correlating entries in Windows Event Viewer (event id 4101)

and believe me, i've tried everything same as you, short of taking the GPU apart and re-padding / re-pasting

[opal lion]

so its not just me? i hope the stalker 2 devs are looking into this. as ive not seen any communication acknowledging these crashes. oh an let me tell you i give them detailed info in every crash report.

anyway i love them game, and hope they are troubleshooting a fix across the board. im honestly thinking of play stalker shadow of chernobyl tonight as i never played it lol.

[raw sleet]

yeah, i've been uploading all my crashes when possible as well; twice since release i've even gotten BSOD's trying to play; this is the only game since I built this rig a year ago that's caused a BSOD (old gpu 2080ti, but newer board z690 w/19-12900k 32gb ddr5 6k

[opal lion]

i run a i9 12900k too. yay for onboard graphics for when you need to do driver clean installs or you card **** the bed.

[raw sleet]

i got my old 980ti packed away for emergencies myself

[opal lion]

well im done trouble shooting. i just thought id do a follow up for anyone that cared.

[raw sleet]

i went from the 9900k to the 12900k and wow, this thing is waaaay hotter

i finally switched to a liquid cooler; glad I did

[opal lion]

im running a simple liquid cooler and its doing a great job on CPU temps

[raw sleet]

yeah, I had a top end noctua air cooler for the 9900k and tried it with the 12 series.. nope

[opal lion]

i really couldnt tell you on mine lol. it was a cost cut for me to stay on budget. its like a corsair knock off only dual fans.

some day i plan on upgrading it. maybe when i decide to upgrade my card. i might wait till 50 series though.

[raw sleet]

yeah, gonna try to get a 50 series myself.. saw the MSRP's listed on them today.. oof

[raw sleet]

the original SoC along with CS and CoP are all great; if you're going to mod them at all; i'd suggest looking into the "Complete" mods

[opal lion]

well see. i had already tried Gamma and i liked the crafting survival mechanics, but the game would hiccup all the time. i just couldn't stand it. after trying the trouble shoot gamma for a month i gave up on it. Now dont get the idea most games give me an issues lol. I ironically have had issues with stalker gamma and stalker 2 lol. Everything else runs like a dream on this pc.

[flint spoke]

windows 11 24H2 has known unfixed issues too so who knows

[opal lion]

yep im running windows 11 24H2

[late ferry]

sqepticism has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[flint spoke]

they updated the kernel after ages so it broke tons of games basically

some just crash, had to be updated, others worse performance. maddening

[raw sleet]

Win 11 Pro 23H2 here; Insider beta branch

my 2080ti has been running basically non-stop since I bought it june 2019.. not even kidding; I rarely power down my rig.. pretty safe bet it's starting to flake, seeing similar issues in other, older games lately (but not as frequently as with Stalker2) too since start of dec.

[hearty knoll]

One thing I'd like to see changed in stalker is some form of hdr calibration screen. I might just be stupid but I can't change settings in menu, exit menu, see how it looks, go back to menu, change, exit menu, see how it looks the whole time

[wispy trench]

when patch 🐒

[coral token]

That's ngl impressive have you at any point changed the thermal paste/pads on your 2080ti?

If you haven't I suggest you do that might also look into some custom firmware I know older AMD cards have a lot of those done to improve performance with time through undervolts and other means of oc

[raw sleet]

no, never did, probably should have a couple years ago, but it's past time I retired it now. getting a 50 series when possible

[coral token]

What you mean retired so what GPU you use now?

[raw sleet]

its still running; just saying it's time to replace it

[coral token]

Probably first try firmware flash and repaste see if that helps also see what temps it runs rn

If temps are OK but it thermal throttles then yeah silicon degradation has happened

[raw sleet]

i might do that stuff after I get a replacement, then pass it onto a friend whos still running a 1080 and can't afford anything; let him run it till it's totally cooked

[coral token]

In my 2ndary system I now barely use since is in country side I had r9 290x 8gb since the release date run till 2022

Then it finally kicked bucket sadly

Might still attempt to repair it see what blew on it since it seems that card is still decent shape overall

My old r9 295x2 I already sold

Some dude bought it for collection sake lol

[raw sleet]

dont think anything blew but obvs without disassembly can't say for sure; since bout late dec. i've been getting more and more TDR crashes in more games than just Stalker2

could be nvidia's latest drivers are the issue, but its probably more likely it's just tired boss

[coral token]

Undervolt it

ASAP sounds like that's your problem most likely

Card has some degradation over time and it can't run old oc as efficiently TDR is due to GPU hanging on process

[raw sleet]

it's an evga 2080ti black, not oc'ed, It runs at reference timings and I keep the fans on an aggressive fan curve.. heat and timings have never been an issue until lately

[coral token]

I'd say that GPU is still decent issue probably is some driver or something pushes too much current

And what I saw undervolt can solve it

[raw sleet]

its getting its ass kicked in this ddr5 rig for sure heh

[coral token]

How's the util?

I guess gpu is constantly 100% when in games lol

[raw sleet]

nah, 90-100 yeah, depending on the game and how well it's optimized

[coral token]

How's cpu util?

At same time

[raw sleet]

CP2077 nails it to 100 but I can run that @1440p 120fps all day

[coral token]

Honestly good card even tho it's aged

[raw sleet]

cpu util.. heh, it's bored; 12900k has plenty overhead

[coral token]

But yeah probably time to undervolt

Cpu util on my 5800x3d with 6800xt in stalker 2 1440p is usually at like 30-40% in hubs 60% gpu constant 99%

[raw sleet]

if availability isn't an issue im puttin a 5080 in here asap.. hopefully by end of feb

[late ferry]

kerensk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coral token]

I mean seen it's a good card but if price a lot higher than msrp and scalpers again f that

[raw sleet]

yeah, my cpu w/stalker2 is pretty much same pace; see 50-60% activity on a few cores but otherwise it might as well be idle

[coral token]

Same here it's mostly loading up only few cores threads not whole cpu

Optimization on stalker 2 is lacking tbh

[raw sleet]

yeah, a concern I share as well; im going to try to get it via retail since big box stores typically stick to msrp.. but availablity gonna be rough im sure

[velvet quartz]

Неllo

[coral token]

My way of upgrades is always going for 2nd gen before latest as those usually lose value when new launches lol

I rarely do latest gen due to all the issues it usually has aka teething

[fickle storm]

Hey guys I'm running a Ryzen 5 5500 with a RX6750XT 1080p with 32GB Ram (EndeavourOS), can someone with simular specs tell me how the game runs. I would love to play it, but I don't want to buy it just to refund it after downloading 200GB.

[raw sleet]

the other concern of mine is AIB manufacturer; leaning towards PNY since evga is gone

[coral token]

I agree PNY is great Kingpin went for it

[coral token]

At 1080p shouldn't have issues as long as shaders compile properly and load there's issue on 1.1.3 rn with that

[coral token]

I'm myself on 5800x3d with 6800xt 32gb ram and on 1440p

[fickle storm]

okay so I wont have problems with dropping below 60 fps?most vids I looked at didn't really show weather etc

[coral token]

I suggest running fsr on quality and fg on but other than that shouldn't

[fickle storm]

tyvm gonna buy it then ^^

[coral token]

My one suggestion is installing after shader compile first time goes through no shader warmup mod