pc-specs

[flint spoke]

yeah if im there long enough, game will do a hard freeze

[paper pike]

Same

[flint spoke]

its broken af

[paper pike]

I never crash anywhere Else

[flint spoke]

just barely got out of there yesterday repairing gear and stashing equipment lmao

[flint spoke]

i crash if I get hit by a certain grav anomaly ever since patch 1.1.2 or 1.1.3

otherwise no crashes outside the rostok thing

[paper pike]

I dont have this issue

Only Rostock crash for me and sometimes my fps goes down to like 10 and I have to restart my game

But game is still very fun🙂

[flint spoke]

yeah i dont get that memory leak, i have a friend that still gets that

[paper pike]

I see

[flint spoke]

for me its like a 7/10 at best tbh

[paper pike]

Hmmmmm I really like the exploration and the atmosphere

[flint spoke]

you'll eventually realize there is very, very, little good or unique gear to find exploring. vast majority of locations just have sausages, medkits, and ammo

like 95% of locations or more

like quite frankly anomaly had a much better gameplay loop

this game also has only like 3 actual large sidequests

[ancient jacinth]

Such is life in the Zone

[leaden relic]

Are nights meant to be… idk, bright? I’m on HDR and I was expecting them to be pretty much pitch black, but instead it just feels like evening. Contrast is at 50, brightness 50, gamma at 45 (tho gamma doesn’t change anything when hdr is enabled)

[cobalt scroll]

on OLED i cant see shit at night lol

[serene meteor]

does anyone else notic aim sensitivety out of control on steam deck oled to the point it hurts your eyes

[leaden relic]

weird... what are your display settings? contrast / brightness etc

[cobalt scroll]

no idea i just tuned it with slider until the last image was barely visible

[leaden relic]

When you have HDR on, stalker 2’s gamma setting only affects the HUD - has no impact on the game. If it’s too dark try these settings;
Contrast 50
Brightness 50
And then HDR brightness 30

[opaque grail]

or just turn off and never use HDR anymore lol

[leaden relic]

I paid for these nits I must get my money’s worth

[late ferry]

sqepticism has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[flint spoke]

i can't even really use hdr, the higher brightness is uncomfortable for me

its all good tho cause this is a very mid monitor for hdr, i didnt buy it for that

[smoky kraken]

racism

[opaque grail]

lol even that my monitor is HDR i never turn it on. games looks really washed out and ugly with it on 😦

[opaque grail]

wait i thought the hdr actually dims the screen and it is not lit enough then

[raw sleet]

my last monitor was a samsung w/HDR; I couldn't get many games looking very good with it despite endless tinkering

[silver canopy]

HDR really is almost never worth it imo. Especially with all the tinkering and shit you'd have to do

Barely makes a difference to me, all it does is just make you fiddle with settings for little to no difference

All it does is just add more problems and makes everything look weird

[green heart]

ive watched videos on HDR and it seems that for video games if the devs havent implemented it properly then it'll look meh.

[hard juniper]

i feel the same, too much effort to set up and most games don't have a good enough implementation to be worth that effort

with oled games already look more than good enough in sdr

[tawny thicket]

i tried HDR a couple times and to me it just looks weird

[coral token]

damn no clue why but now in Rostok 1% lows are so bad

[leaden relic]

Eh, with a decent display it can look really good, but stalker 2 is either impossibly dark everywhere or too light in the nighttime

[sand nimbus]

This is what you get for using lumen

[coral token]

@tawny thicket tbh I have tried a lot of fixes to see how to fix on 1.1.3 the failed shaders but since I deleted them game runs even worse now than on launch and 1.1.2

[flat brook]

They're likely failing or skipping compilation again, and being created/loaded as you go, atleast that seemed to be their hotfix prior to the holidays

[coral token]

I don't understand how the game now refuses to load it if it was running fine before

[toxic lance]

Whenever I restart my game it sets the graphics quality to EPIC, is this happening to any of y'all?

[coral token]

I been running all settings on epic since 1.0.0 and had no issues

now I get those weird lag spikes due to vram and all the other issues because of shaders

gonna try a fix someone on reddit said

[flat brook]

I’m not sure either, game booted up and runs fine for me throughout every patch, but I’ve also done my very best to not touch/change anything in terms of settings since 1.0, as that’ll likely upset it for me and cause issues

[toxic lance]

I understand, but when I make a specific configuration by decreasing certain settings (and saving of course) when I close and open the game again the settings are set to EPIC

[toxic lance]

GPU Nvidia?

[coral token]

AMD

[toxic lance]

hm..

[coral token]

now I read someone said to wipe both DX shaders and folder in steamapps under shaders twice and that apparently fixes it

[toxic lance]

In Nvidia software there is an option to return the VRAM memory to the system RAM. I enabled it now to test

[coral token]

if anyone is curious I can tell what I did but now am wondering if compile will work

nope still fails

I might as well revert to 1.1.2 at this point

as that was far better than 1.1.3

[tawny thicket]

@coral token have you done the clear shader cache in the driver?

[sand nimbus]

Real chads wait till the game is fully patched. I haven't touched it in a month and never proceeded far in the story

Im gonna have such a good time playing when its taken care of

[tawny thicket]

what a weird feature (unless your talking about resizable BAR)

[sand nimbus]

Its gonna make things worse if you have 16gb ram

[toxic lance]

I have 32gb

I played for almost 1 hour without any problems, but I won't say whether this Nvidia option helped or not, it's too early for that.

[plucky quail]

Gaming with Ram instead of Vram is gonna be ass

[toxic lance]

From what I understand, in extreme cases where the VRAM reaches its limit, a little is sent to the RAM until it stabilizes, just to avoid crashes or the game closing.

It seems to help in Stalker 2, the game suffers from memory leaks...

[coral token]

have cleared cache both in steamapps folder dx shaders and in gpu drivers

[wintry needle]

my recent experiences with shader compile, useful for those who have the GOG version on Linux (there's dozens of us! dozens!!):
the default location of the VKD3D shader cache is, apparently, in the same folder as the main executable 😊 (who woulda known)
in my case it's 2 files, the names
vkd3d-proton.cache
vkd3d-proton.cache.write
deleted these, the shader comp started from the beginning and completed successfully, I even quit the game and started up again like 3 times and it's fine every time

a bit of extra fun:
the stupid Setting up profile thing that the GOG version does for like 30 seconds then you have to press Esc to dismiss the warning? here's how to get rid of it:

• in the folder <path-to-stalker2-folder-inside-wine-prefix>/Stalker2/Plugins/OnlineSubsystemGOG/Source/ThirdParty/GalaxySDK/Libraries/ there is a file called Galaxy64.dll
• rename this file or move it away
• start the game as normal, the warning won't be there anymore 🙂

now, it may freak you out at first, because it will look like your saves are gone! 😮
but fear not! the un-GOG-ed version expects them in a different location, that's all

original location:
<path-to-wine-prefix>/drive_c/users/<username>/AppData/Local/Stalker2/Saved/GOG/SaveGames/
new location is one folder up!
<path-to-wine-prefix>/drive_c/users/<username>/AppData/Local/Stalker2/Saved/SaveGames/

so you can just copy the whole SaveGames folder and paste it in the Saved folder, next to the folders Config, Crashes, Logs etc.

start the game again, revel in the lack of profile setup 🤣 , watch the beautiful shader compile 😆 , and enjoy!

[river wren]

So true

[tawny thicket]

maybe try disabling the shader compile?

[coral token]

I don't have shaders on my pc anymore maybe you can send over yours

or someone else who runs similar gpu as me

[tawny thicket]

what GPU do you have?

[tawny thicket]

i'm not sure it would work

[coral token]

RX6800XT

[tawny thicket]

i havean RX 6600

and i dont think shaders work in such a way where you can just send the other the entire thing

[sinful fog]

im reaching constant 90-100fps but after some time it stutters like crazy and goes down to 5-20fps... i press ESC and sometimes it goes back to 90-100fps.. how do i fix this stuttering?

[tawny thicket]

what GPU ? as if its 8gb or less..........

[sinful fog]

RTX 4060

[tawny thicket]

then i'm afraid its to be expected but FG might also be causing some problems i've heard

especially at high or epic

[sinful fog]

i dont use FG, i set DLSS to native (DLAA) its mostly fine but like after an hour or so (not all the time) it stutters like crazy

[tawny thicket]

medium might work a bit better

[true echo]

I just skip the shader cache by reloading it because it always freezes before it finishes and then i get incredible lag spike for 5 minutes then fin then it repeats anyone know how to fix that?

[toxic lance]

Do you play between 90-100 FPS on an rtx 4060? At what resolution?

[sinful fog]

1080p

[toxic lance]

without using Frame Generation?

[sinful fog]

yes i dont like the input lag so i have it off.. i have DLSS set to DLAA though

[toxic lance]

🤔

[sinful fog]

it was fine in the previous update, now its stuttering at some point, and goes back to performing smoothly lol

idk what is causing it

[toxic lance]

Dude, are you sure you're not using any frame generator? Because I have an rtx4060ti and I can't get those FPS so high without using the FG

[sinful fog]

i mean i can show u a screenshot of it 😂 i doubt performance solely relies on GPU

[tawny thicket]

maybe you have FSR 3.1 (AKA : FG) enabled @sinful fog

[sinful fog]

give me a sec to boot it up so i can show a screenie

[tawny thicket]

it used to be called FSR frame gen but they changed it with 1.1

why? i have NO idea

[tawny thicket]

if you are GPU limited....it very much so does

[toxic lance]

Dude... it could be engine.ini disabling some things and making his FPS go up so much, because on my rtx4060ti with the game without any modifications I'm not able to get past 70 FPS without FG

[tawny thicket]

good point

[toxic lance]

I even used some engine.ini that increased the FPS a lot but left the quality of the game very ugly, because of that I reinstalled the game leaving it original

[sinful fog]

I wil be sending the screenies now, sorry the compiling of shaders took long

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

it goes down from that to like 87-90 and goes back up to 100

idk how else to prove the performance i get 😂.

i only have a 75hz monitor so its not like i benefit from that

but my monitor has the gsync thing and im running 128gb of 6000mhz ram if that helps (on am5 platform)

[coral token]

same issue I have but I have 16gb GPU

[coral token]

how well does game run for you so?

[paper pike]

i have these weird crashing issues in i also get this issue sometimes

[tawny thicket]

you have DLSS-FG set to auto......... try maybe there are other options with it

[tawny thicket]

its OK

far better than ARK SMEAR ascended

[coral token]

well now I've reset shaders on driver on dx and on game itself

if that all doesn't solve this idek maybe reinstall the game

Or look for way to install 1.1.2

these shader compiles make even RX6800XT shit the bed

I just saw it go from 400fps avg to 5 with 250ms frame time

While it loads normal frame time is 2ms

[tawny thicket]

thats how shader compile is soppused to be

i think even a 4090 would do that

[coral token]

ah yes crash

[tawny thicket]

and actually..... shader compile doesnt even run on the GPU

[coral token]

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\RenderingThread.cpp] [Line: 1273] GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs

[tawny thicket]

so you are on LINUX correct?

[coral token]

no win 10

[tawny thicket]

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i thought you said something like : ARCH linux

[coral token]

that's not me lol

what I remember Beci is on linux

[tawny thicket]

could have just been my dr... i mean halu...i mean nothing

[coral token]

and helps others here too

so basically now my game runs with no shader compile

[tawny thicket]

well...... i guess it needs to be patched

[coral token]

hence GPU can't handle most stuff with people anymore

[true echo]

I just skip the shader cache by reloading it because it always freezes before it finishes and then i get incredible lag spike for 5 minutes then fin then it repeats anyone know how to fix that?

[coral token]

What is wrong with you

[tawny thicket]

totally nothing

[toxic lance]

FG Auto = Enabled.

If I'm wrong, correct me, I think FG doubles the FPS, so if with FG active the game is at 100 FPS it's because your game is at 50 FPS.

[true echo]

Somebody help me

[coral token]

you bad

add me as friend at least

[tawny thicket]

i didnt see it

[spare coral]

Nah, you are right at least for fsr framegen it doubles your framerate dunno about the DLSS one

[naive shoal]

I finally got a 9800X3D, I'm now ready for this game

[coral token]

bad idea

[naive shoal]

You're right, back to Stalker mods instead

[grizzled drift]

They both do the same thing lol

[coral token]

what was your specs before that?

[naive shoal]

7800X3D, so not a necessary upgrade, but not an expensive one since I don't need anything else and can sell off the 7800X3D

[coral token]

no clue why you did that tbh

[spare coral]

I mean if he can why not

[naive shoal]

It does make a noticeable improvement in some games, S2 actually is one of them

[grizzled drift]

Yeah 9800x3d is on avg 11% faster than 7800x3d up to 20% in some games/scenarios

So no, not worth tbh, but if you can why not

[glass vault]

I probably would have waited for Zen 6 x3d but not my money. If you want it go ahead

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I’ll chillin with my 7800x3d for now

[coral token]

I'm just chilling on 5800x3d

[spare coral]

Me with an i5 11400 😎

[grizzled drift]

yeah one of my friends chillin with a 12400f

[glass vault]

Might not even upgrade my CPU till the next AMD platform at this point not a big reason to yet

[onyx swan]

are u guys also having huge frame drops in certain areas of the map?

[fleet wraith]

Do the standard undervolt and PBO boosts and enjoy

[wild mantle]

Hello is your game blocked on shader compilation ?

[flat brook]

I’m still waiting on mine, arrives January 7th

[naive shoal]

My Microcenter had almost none since launch, then today all of a sudden 25+ in stock

[naive shoal]

That happened to me once or twice, trying again fixed it. Worst case scenario maybe validate game files?

[glass vault]

Normal batch system guess it took a while before they got it

[sinful fog]

I turned it off and it's still above 70 playing around 80-90 now

[tawny thicket]

bro has DLSS 4.......

[tawny thicket]

but like seriously HOW do you have that much FPS on a 4060???????????????????????,

[sinful fog]

I have no idea myself

But I'm glad it's performing like that lol

[tawny thicket]

are you using mods????????

like perf mods

[sinful fog]

I'm using the gameplay balance mod and a few ui/hud mods

The uh anti stutter one

That's it really

[tawny thicket]

i think thats the reason (maybe)

as for me that mod didnt really do ANYthing

but you could be lucky and it works for you

[sinful fog]

I'm ngl I thought it would kill the stutters it did 0 shit lol I only installed it this patch

[tawny thicket]

you are on an 8gb card..Like me!

[toxic lance]

It's probably some engine.ini that he installed in his game that improves performance

why do I have an rtx4060ti 8gb and it's not getting all this FPS without FG in version 1.1.3 of the game..

[toxic lance]

Can you share the mod links?

[sinful fog]

I'm yet to do that lol (tempting because of the stutters). I wld know because most of those mods slightly lowers the image quality which won't do for me since I make cinematics. I'll send the links of the mods I use in a bit, just doing something else irl

[late ferry]

thirteenth_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sinful fog]

Woops. the f word can't be used but anyways I upscale my videos to 4k so anything lower than high have a noticeable decrease in quality

[toxic lance]

I see. Do you have a YouTube channel?

[sinful fog]

cant post links i'll just list the names lol:

SolidShadow's Toggleable HUD
Simple ModLoader and Console Enabler
Petey's Clean UI
Ultimate Engine Tweaks (Anti-Stutters - More Performance - Lower Latency - Better Clarity - Lossless)
STALKER 2 OMEGA - Modular Enhanced Zone Experience
Clean Button Prompts - MinUI Suite

and i do have a youtube channel but its more so a storage for the clips I take than an actual channel 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ7kQYpbx3E

[true echo]

I just skip the shader cache by reloading it because it always freezes before it finishes and then i get incredible lag spike for 5 minutes then fine then it repeats anyone know how to fix that?

[spare coral]

You cant

[true echo]

Guess ill just wait it out then

They must be low on time and money to make you pay 80 bucks and have bugs like that

[kind fiber]

I have an rx 6600 i5 13400 and 16 gigs of ram and while i get decent fps my game is very stuttery and even freezes sometimes why is that? I've seen people with similiar specs run the game rather smoothly , am I doing something wrong?

[dusk brook]

Have you try engine tweak mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7

[flat brook]

Blessed by the Microlith

Saw that my local shop had a handful in stock at their supplier, ordered one on the 23rd, got confirmation two days ago it would arrive the 7th of Jan

[opaque grail]

the game is getting fixed because the real chads who plays the game gives the data to devs about the issues of the game. if not for such chads who kind of playtests the game, you would never get the patches at all or it would take MUCH longer than it will in this case. so you should be thankful for the real chads who plays the game NOW.

[opaque grail]

i installed the game on my laptop with 2070 gpu 🙏 for it to not to explode now

[hollow kettle]

I have a 4060 and I get 60-80 fps on medium/high settings with dlss quality no FG

Very rarely drops into 50s but I also have only made it to garbage & lesser zone so

[tawny thicket]

you all are wizards ( or NVIDIA is secretly beta testing DLSS 4)

[tawny thicket]

🤔

[tawny thicket]

that is based

[tawny thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345 that is what will happen

[plucky quail]

Sadly I don’t get performance issues only saw missing texture that I reported

Well the hole game is a performance issue but u guys get what I am saying

[tawny thicket]

what settings? and what res? (prolly 1080p)

[opaque grail]

instead of s2 they are playing hogwarts legacy lol

[opaque grail]

most likely, sadly. didnt play it yet, soon will.

[opal lion]

i9 12900k 32gb of ram and a 3080ti. game runs well until it crashes (LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 880] CurrentQueue.Device->GetDevice()->GetDeviceRemovedReason() failed at D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:910 with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED) It always crashes after an hour and 30 to an hour and 40 minutes of constant game play. i already did a clean install of my drivers and verified integrity of the game files. i haven't tried increasing the virtual ram. anyone with a similar build have this problem and fixed it?

[tight urchin]

gamers has someone tried out all the performance improvement engine.ini tweaks out and can tell me which one is the best?

I really can't understand why my frames are so bad in ahrophrom, like there's not even npcs around or anything :S

[tawny thicket]

i tested all that i could find for performance : http://pastie.org/p/0vkx9hxV8UEdvZgqcY7ecl

and i also have some VRAM usage data but i am not 100% confident in the results : http://pastie.org/p/0NsdtOv5pa53l6xxb7wBAw

[tight urchin]

you are a godsend thank you so much

[tawny thicket]

i havent gotten there yet though........

it could have something to do with VRAM ...

[tight urchin]

VRAM is fine, I'm at around 10gb max with my 12gb 3080, it's just my i7-10700k that struggles

[tight urchin]

is qmqz anti-stutter mod the "engine.ini file no1" mods?

[tawny thicket]

i do not think so

[tight urchin]

okay because the names don't really match the mods at the start of the pastie 😅

[tawny thicket]

engine.ini file NO 1 is most definitly not the anti stutter mod

[tight urchin]

okay 🙂

I really don't understand why I have 20ms of input lag while not using framegen

[tawny thicket]

could be that you still somehow have the "mouse smoothing" thing enabled but i dont really know

[tight urchin]

no that's enabled in qmqzs engine ini too, I just reset my engine ini and will look how it is with default values

huh I actually get less input lag with FrameGen on

[tawny thicket]

WUT

[tight urchin]

yup I don't understand it, I updated my DLSS and FSR files but I have no clue what's going on

[tawny thicket]

like i've seen that happen to hardware unboxed when they were originally testing FSR FG on an AMD card

but it thought that didnt/couldnt happen on NVIDIA

[tight urchin]

I have no idea, I'm running DLSS + Framegen on a 3080

framegen splits my input lag by basically exactly half

even at getting 100fps total with it enabled

[tawny thicket]

hhhhhmmmmmm maybe turning FG on forces NVIDIA Reflex

[tight urchin]

ah I might have disabled that in the nvidia inspector, let me check

[tawny thicket]

i also think one of the mods i tested has been deleted

[kind fiber]

Medium preset basically with fg

[opaque grail]

my 2070+i7 10750h laptop takes much longer to compile shaders than my 3070+i7 12700k standalone. standalone takes only 1-2 minutes but the laptop takes 10-15 min or smth..

[tawny thicket]

the shader compile takes way longer the first time you do it

[agile harbor]

it does

[tawny thicket]

well i know that DL-FG does but i havent seen FSR FG do that yet

[agile harbor]

Oh

[opaque grail]

i know. but it got stuck on very end of the process god damn it... still didnt start the game yet...

im really glad my standalone doesnt have this issue

[tawny thicket]

ahh

i see

[opaque grail]

task manager says stalker is not responding. nice...

[tawny thicket]

[opaque grail]

i expected to be problematic with performance on my laptop but i was hoping for the game at least to start lol

[coral token]

Go f yourself

[coral token]

Meanwhile on my PC took less than 1min do take your L yourself

[opaque grail]

someone forgot their medicine today 🙂

after restart ive got the warning about the compiling failure and it just went straight for the menu. i joined the compile failure club i guess and im even more lucky that my standalone doesnt have these issues.

[pliant sand]

I just got the game yesterday and its probably crashed on me 3-4 times. I have a i9-14900K and a Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti with 64GB of DDR5 Ram

[opaque grail]

on my standalone ive got 40+ crashes or smth in 80h gameplay. but never crashed while compiling thank god for that at least.

[pliant sand]

Oh i meant to mention in the game not while compiling

ill run around and just crashes every so often with the UE Crash report

[oblique cypress]

have they done any big optimizations changes yet? or is the game still running bad?

[agile harbor]

None of the patches so far have been performance focused

all gameplay/progression bug fixes for the most part

[oblique cypress]

lolll

[tawny thicket]

one patch increased performance in settlements by 10fps (for me anyways) (at least when CPU limited)

[oblique cypress]

3070ti 12700,, 48gigs of raM,, 30 TO 40 Frames if im lucky,, since launch,, lol,, they need to fix their game man

[tawny thicket]

40????? on a 3070 TIE?????

[oblique cypress]

jupppp

[tawny thicket]

1440p? epic?

[oblique cypress]

on anything more than 1080 i get like 20 frames,, slideshow

[tawny thicket]

i'm gonna look up some calming medicine

[opaque grail]

yeah well known memory leak issue

[tawny thicket]

HOW

[oblique cypress]

you tell me,, thats why im asking if they fixed stuff

[tawny thicket]

what settings?

[oblique cypress]

everything low,, dlss give me 10 more frames,, honestly it doesnt even change if go higher settings,, only if i go higher res

horribly optimised is what it is

[opaque grail]

use FSR, without it its unplayable indeed

[oblique cypress]

im on nvidia,, shouldnt i be using dlss

[tawny thicket]

*DLSS + FSR FG is what i think you mean

[opaque grail]

with fsr you should be getting more fps. my 3070 runs 100 fps on 2k resolution medium/high settings with fsr on of course.

[tawny thicket]

@oblique cypress what is your GPU usage?

[oblique cypress]

usually like 70%

so not fully utilized

[opaque grail]

i think he is upset because i reacted 💩 when he wrote that he owns amd cpu or smth like that xD

[coral token]

Dude keeps spamming my messages

[tawny thicket]

i know FSR runs a bit better (on 30 series) but....still its like 2fps

[tawny thicket]

so the reason you reacted with uhh 💩 was because he has an AMD CPU ????

[opaque grail]

you definitely not using fsr then. i tried playing with fsr off and the gpu utilization was really unstable just like fps too. with fsr on gpu usage is always 98-99 perc and getting 80-100 and sometimes much more fps no problem.

[coral token]

It's why I dislike this guy

[oblique cypress]

ill try it out

[tawny thicket]

at what settings?

[opaque grail]

i really dont like amd stuff 😄 but i dont think this is enough to say such toxic stuff what he started writing here tho. mods sleeping i guess.

[coral token]

Meanwhile on 1440p with fsr all epic I get 130+

[opaque grail]

fsr gives some input lag tho, but without fsr the game as you see is unplayable

[coral token]

I mean zen architecture is overall better than Intel lol

[tawny thicket]

oh i see so you were talking FG

[tawny thicket]

it is

[tawny thicket]

well i guess buy the 285K then..... i wont judge

[opaque grail]

now the funny thing is that with both 2070 and 3070 gpus the DLSS frame generator is greyed out in the settings and after turning hardware gpu acceleration on windows settings which really helped with stalker 2 performance but that FG setting dissapeared, i cant see it in options menu at all anymore. with both 2070 and 3070

[tawny thicket]

of course you dont

[opaque grail]

i dont need to buy anything, i am really happy with both laptop and standalone which both haves intel + nvidia combination

[tawny thicket]

BC its only supported on the 40 series!!! and even those sometimes dont have the power to really do DL-FG

[opaque grail]

well another funny thing is that internet gives different information about this, some say that only 40xx supports some say the opposite, but the most interesting thing that one mod here on this discord said that he owns 3070ti and he is able to use this setting. but who knows, maybe it was a bug in his case ..

but im okay with dlss + fsr, they need to fix the input lag and crashing and thats it lol

[opaque grail]

so yeah try turning gpu hardware acceleration setting on windows too if you didnt yet.

[tawny thicket]

I dont exactly uuhhhh care what people say ..... NVIDIA litarally says on their website that DL-FG is only supported on 40 series https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/geforce/technologies/dlss/ SOOOOOOOOO

[coral token]

Lol L for Nvidia ig

[opaque grail]

okay then. most likely it was a bug in that mod's case then.

[coral token]

Spends 800+ usd for gpu doesn't get all the same features buy another 800+ next generation for it

[tawny thicket]

yeah they locked it to 40 series even though the 30 series has the hardware to do it too to be honest if the 40 series is struggling with it...........

[coral token]

It's just so weird about nvidia honestly meanwhile their CEO buys another expensive af leather jacket

[tawny thicket]

haahh !!!!😂🤣 Jensen is probably like : is this some peasent joke i'm TOO RICH to understand ?

[coral token]

Yes lmao

[agile harbor]

40 "series" encompasses a very wide range of performance.

[tawny thicket]

true

[opaque grail]

if ignoring the compiling shaders failure, my 2070 runs the game on 1080p with fsr on and dlss "quality" pretty well - 80-100 fps

[tawny thicket]

PLS when you are talking about FSR-FG please put the FG part there tooo

[opaque grail]

im just using the names that i see in the game settings mate 🙂

[agile harbor]

Can't be using FSR and DLSS so what you wrote is confusing

[tawny thicket]

Exactly

[opaque grail]

dlss on quality and fsr all turned on in my case 🤔

[agile harbor]

If you're using DLSS for upscaling, what you're likely referring to as FSR is is actually FSR 3 Frame Generation

FSR itself is also an upscaling method and can't be selected at the same time as DLSS

[coral token]

Hold up you are upscaling to 1080p and running FG for that?

[tawny thicket]

yeah thats pretty much what i resorted too...

[coral token]

I can run 1080p native higher somehow

Besides the issues I have ran with shaders and me deleting them all ruining stalker 2 far more

[tawny thicket]

"somehow" you have a 6800 XT meanwhile i have an RX 6600

[coral token]

And that guy keeps saying AMD bad lol

[tawny thicket]

i think AMD is great

[undone sun]

He probably has dreams of running something by Cyrix :V

[coral token]

I'm mostly on the fps per dollar scale

[tawny thicket]

so am i

[rare temple]

Using QMQZ's peak mod (with a few tweaks to make it look better) on my GTX-1660 and Ryzen 5 3600, I can get well over 50+ fps out in the Zone, sometimes even maintaining 60 fps depending on what's out there. And I don't use FSR Frame Gen as I can't keep a consistent 60 fps anyways and it just causes more memory leaks with my potato 6gb GPU. 😆

Inside Settlements, it can be around 40 to 50 fps. Still experience the occasional "leak" where FPS drops to 5-10 fps but that's usually after playing over an hour out in the zone, and then returning to a large Settlement (Slag Heap, Rostok, etc). Usually, I can just go into the pause menu and wait about 10 to 15 seconds and it clears up. Or else, save, exit the game, then restart it and no issues at that point. Usually do this before major cut scenes. Uploaded a video showing my in-game settings, along with in the description what I changed in QMQZ's mod which was mainly to make the dynamic lighting a bit better, otherwise it was pretty much turned off in the Peak mod. His Base mod doesn't really help me much on my GTX-1660 which is fine.

Overall, it looks okay. Not anything close to what those with 4090's etc. can get. But, for me, based on my setup, I care more about the gameplay, and with what I have, the game is very enjoyable. It may not look the best, but it's not the worst I've seen in games. Overall, I can see what I need to see, whether it is enemies, etc, and when in combat, it's well over 45 fps so it's not terrible and I do just fine, especially with mouse and keyboard.

The video below is me at Wild Island, so if you're not there and don't want to know anything, you might want to skip. Really, no spoilers as I don't do any quests, but just walk around inside and out to show the performance I get with QMQZ's Peak mod and a few other tweaks I've done. I just wish YouTube wouldn't compress the videos so much as it can make it looks worse than it really is.

https://youtu.be/3LRWm6dWUa4

[tawny thicket]

now i can see what you have been typing for 10 minutes...... HOLY

[agile harbor]

Set the video to Premier 😆

[opaque grail]

im not experienced with amd cpus but had really bad time with gpu tho. never going back to amd at least gpu considered. now about fsr part, i understand the confusion my bad , but yall got the point.

[tawny thicket]

just finished reading 👍 i'm gonna take a look at the video now

[agile harbor]

may want to give it a bit, still only available in a crispy 360p

[tawny thicket]

also youtube normally doesnt compress my videos this much

[agile harbor]

is it finished processing?

[tawny thicket]

oh thats why it looks so great

i'll wait a bit

[coral token]

AMD used to dominate Intel back in late 1990s early 2k and since Zen 2 has been doing it again now looking at even server side of CPUs Intel is taking Ls

[tawny thicket]

some are lucky with AMD GPU's some arent... but in my 6 years of playing on AMD i havent had any issues that A : werent my fault B : didnt get fixed by a restart or C : werent from the iGPU i was gaming on being trash

it also depends on when it is that you tried AMD GPU's

[opaque grail]

it was 5 years ago or smth

[tawny thicket]

bc i've heard that the 5k series drivers were really bad

[tawny thicket]

yeah that lines up with 5k series ( IIRC)

[opaque grail]

yeah drivers used to be pain in the ass

[tawny thicket]

yeah IDK i didnt have a dGPU back then

[agile harbor]

its a bit of a meme now dealing with beginners that say "I heard the drivers were bad"

I get a chuckle. everyones "heard" that

[tawny thicket]

yeah LOL

if you do everything right then you are very unlikly to have issues

[agile harbor]

I try to keep one of each running at all times to stay up to date. My RX6600 though is a little long in the tooth, looking to swap it for B580 to tinker

once I can find one at MSRP

[tawny thicket]

i also want an upgrade.... the RX 6600 is just not enough anymore

[agile harbor]

I've got it hooked up to a 3440x1440 display lol

[tawny thicket]

too weak

[agile harbor]

yeah, but that rig primarily functions as a youtube player/game guide/map lookup tool lol

Tinker with gaming on it just to see what can really be done with lower end cards these days

[tawny thicket]

i imagine you are constantly on FSR P

if you game on it that is

[agile harbor]

Oh my S2 testing was rough, yeah. FSR Ultra Performance + FG getting like 30-40

[tawny thicket]

U-P whaaaaaaaaaaaaat

what settings?

[agile harbor]

I think it was High preset, though this was only like 30 minutes of tinkering like two weeks ago

[tawny thicket]

i got waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than that

[agile harbor]

yeah I dunno, didn't play with it that much

started from 3440x1440 though

[tawny thicket]

i think i got about the same perf with FSR P at 1440p as i did at 1080p W FSR Q

like 40-60

withouth FG

[tawny thicket]

correction : major

[tawny thicket]

now it looks great!

[steep monolith]

Yo does the game have a playable framrate now?

I would really like to play but i couldnt make it actually work

[tawny thicket]

well not great but veiwable

[tawny thicket]

depends.....i cant play at epic 1080 native but it is playable for me on my RX6600

[steep monolith]

Im on a 6600 how much framrate do you get and what setting

[tawny thicket]

(i'm gonna put my benchmark results on my laptop but i'm gonna take a look at them now (i keep forgetting))

[steep monolith]

allg thanks for the help i want to reinstall it but idk if it is worth it

[tawny thicket]

http://pastie.org/p/3FwcZwSThzMB431DwkFm54

and ignore the one that i put "temporary" in front off

[steep monolith]

thanks it doesn't seem like your getting 60 fps constantly

[tawny thicket]

without FG i dont but with i do

[steep monolith]

FG?

[tawny thicket]

though there is some stutering

[tawny thicket]

Frame Generation

in the settings its called FSR 3.1 after 1.1

[steep monolith]

thats a in game setting right?

[tawny thicket]

and its not in the upscaler selection

[steep monolith]

Alr cool i will install it and try it again thanks

[opaque grail]

i didnt "hear". i did experience issues.

[agile harbor]

I think there is some differences i'm seeing from people's screenshots or videos. I see this for FSR FG. https://i.imgur.com/hfT7dvW.png

[tawny thicket]

for me it just says 3.1

nothing else last time i checked

[spare coral]

Same it says fsr 3.1

[agile harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/xJOC6Br.png
https://i.imgur.com/uUYPHwf.png

[opaque grail]

same. and im pretty sure everyone sees the same settings..

[spare coral]

They should've left it at FSR frame generation

[tawny thicket]

hoooollld ooonnn how can you see DL-FG on a 6600?? or is that a different PC?

[tawny thicket]

ABSOLUTLY

[agile harbor]

these are just two screenshots taken from two places. neither are my PC's

[tawny thicket]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH got it

[coral token]

Which amd gpu did you run tbh

[agile harbor]

the system I actually played the game on (finished it in 115 hours) has an Nvidia GPU.

[tawny thicket]

i'd guess RX 5700 XT

[tawny thicket]

ah i see....... but which one?

[coral token]

I mean I had RX5600XT before 6800XT since mid 2020 I remember got it since my old gpu died and had no issues with it at all

Still wild that I got 6800xt for only 100 euro more than 5600xt 3 years before

[agile harbor]

4090

[coral token]

Did you get new psu for it or just adapter for 3.1?

[tawny thicket]

BRUH

[agile harbor]

Initially, the included adapter, then a custom cable. No new PSU needed

[coral token]

Not sure why laugh since there's 1200-1600w psus for over 10 years before ATX3.1 bs pcie

[coral token]

I run HX1200i and that PSU is a beast still not even planning to replace it anytime soon

[agile harbor]

Well, new PSU after a few months as it went into a new build but that new PSU didn't have a 12VHPWR connector either.

[coral token]

So it's not 3.1

[agile harbor]

No, why?

[coral token]

Because ATX3.1 comes with 12VHPWR

[agile harbor]

Sure, just wondering why you're asking

[coral token]

Mostly wondering about the psu side since you run 4090

What I do know that Nvidia adapter can kill your GPU since is limited use

[agile harbor]

If you don't know how to plug in a cable fully, sure. Never been a concern of mine.

[coral token]

GamersNexus had a lot of videos about it and even why that was happening

Nah there's only certain amount of times you can use that adapter

[agile harbor]

I followed that situation closely, watched all those videos.

[coral token]

I mean I bet I can get 12VHPWR cable for my psu even tho it's old

[agile harbor]

Currently using a custom cable from MODDIY

[coral token]

Nice

Which psu you do have tbh?

What I know a lot of well known brands have good aftermarket support

[fleet wraith]

3.1 actually comes with 12V-2x6. That's just backwards compatible with the 12VHPWR. ATX 3 is 12VHPWR only

[agile harbor]

Originally ran it in my old system with a Corsair SF750 Plat, then a Superflower Leadex 1000W SE Plat

[coral token]

I mean that's what I misremembered I knew there was something about 3.1 that solved 3.0 issue

[coral token]

SuperFlower is really good ngl

[agile harbor]

The system + my display while playing a heavy game like Indiana Jones (which i'm playing now) is pulling roughly 575W from the wall.

[fleet wraith]

yup, it's something that'll be useful for 5000 series. Different sensing and conductor terminals but the cables function the same

I'm running a C1500, which is overkill, but I am going to the 5090 which is expected to have higher power limits. The power efficiency curve on it is nice

[agile harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/TM5ee4x.png

[coral token]

That's not even too bad my system with monitor is around 500w which is in that sweet power efficiency curve being at 94% efficient I can't complain lol

As my PSU loves 25-50% load a lot

[tawny thicket]

also why in gods name is NVIDIA sticking to that GARBAGE connector? so stupid

[fleet wraith]

I have a seperate UPS for just my PC lol (I really didn't feel like going for commercial grade rack UPS)

[agile harbor]

I'm very happy with the Cyberpower unit in the pic above. Even talks with HWiNFO

[coral token]

I'd run both monitor and system just because it's then self encapsulated station

[fleet wraith]

Monitor is on a different UPS. My peak power load for just PC alone could stress the UPS as is

It's a 1000w UPS, which is basically the highest you can get on consumer grade

[coral token]

But then again I don't experience power cuts at all really my own at home stupidity overloaded a 240v 16a breaker

[fleet wraith]

yeah, the florida power grid just kinda sucks

[coral token]

So you're on 120v

[fleet wraith]

yup

[coral token]

Which is worse than 220v

Basically issue is you can't draw as much watts

[fleet wraith]

worse power delivery, less likely to electrocute 😛

[coral token]

Electrocution is based on amperage not voltage

[fleet wraith]

(it's the main reason for US being 120 inside vs 240)

[agile harbor]

Tryign to figure out what this has to do with anything lol

[coral token]

I'd say US is on 120 because of old infrastructure tbh

[fleet wraith]

yeah, that's fair

[coral token]

Basically 120v to 12v dc is less efficient than 240v

[fleet wraith]

yeah, I know. Either way, my PC and monitor are the only thing I have on that specific circuit

The downside of residential UPS systems is that I have gotten the power overload beeping alert in games where they uncap menus occasionally and it's very annoying

[coral token]

Worth it since then if power cuts you can finish what you doing and power down properly instead of having a chance to electrically damage your PC

[agile harbor]

On a 1000W unit? The only time I've seen that is when I mistakenly tried to play games on two PC's at once connected to one and overloaded it.

[fleet wraith]

Yes

It's one of the reasons I moved the monitor to another UPS

[late ferry]

kerensk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[agile harbor]

On a single 4090PC with stock power limits the most I've ever seen is like 600-650W. If it was a 13/14th Gen i9 and loaded up a CPU benchmark at the same time, that might do it lol

[tawny thicket]

huh what went happened?

[fleet wraith]

I have a 4090 that I use the max power limit on lol

[coral token]

Damnit was saying in Ireland one bad electrician forced a brownout by shorting electrical radiator

Wrecked my PSU and GPU

[agile harbor]

I've seen no reason to go past 100% with this card. They work differently than Ampere. I ran my 3090 with a maxed power limit slider and no matter what, it would sit on that power limit cap. These Ada cards don't seem to work that way.

[fleet wraith]

yeah, my old 3090 would sit that high. It's generally transients or game bugs with uncapped frames that cause it to stay that high

[agile harbor]

Its got a stock cap of 450W and I've never ever seen over 425 in actual operation.

And that's rare. Often its in the 300W-350W range depending on the game. Or lower.

[coral token]

Depends on a lot also your background heat

[agile harbor]

background heat?

do you mean ambient temperature?

But no, these cards just work a little differently. You can watch the performance limiters in HWiNFO or GPU-Z and with the old cards, it was always power. (if being fully utilized). With Ada, its rarely ever power limited.

At least with 4090

[heady tide]

just set a global fps limit in that nvidia control thingy maybe? 120fps for 120hz screen, 144fps for 144hz etc. more fps than hz wont be displayed anyways

[fleet wraith]

I have multiple monitor at different hz, it's not a big deal

it very rarely gets pushed that high. Like I said, it's generally bugs that cause it, and I'll cap on specific games when I see it

on my 144, I cap at 141 generally

[agile harbor]

Yeah I cap everything at 117. (LG C2 120hz GSync)

[coral token]

I don't cap anything myself

[heady tide]

then you set the global fps limit as it fits your main monitor. "wasting" some frames on.. idk, youtube or whatever is on the other screens doesnt hurt.
why 141fps for a 144hz screen? just curious

[fleet wraith]

yeah, I have a CX48 that I'll cap at 117, and a 1440pUW that I cap at 141

[fleet wraith]

capping 3 below is significantly better for g-sync latency

[fleet wraith]

The secondary monitor is used for certain games, not youtube or anything like that. It's a 48 inch OLED lol

[agile harbor]

If you cap at your refresh rate, you're not accounting for limiter overshoot and you'll routinely be stepping out of VRR range

Blurbusters has a whole section on this in more detail

of course, only in titles where you're sitting on the cap

(not a huge issue in this recent crop of AAA titles lol...)

[heady tide]

ah, good to know. i never used g-sync tho.. just went with a global limit and called it a day

[fleet wraith]

yeah, my main monitor actually has a g-sync module so I'm gonna use it at it's full power

I'm running a aw3423dw as my primary monitor. it really makes my powerpoints pop 😂

[agile harbor]

❤️ OLED

[fleet wraith]

every single screen in my house is OLED

My main TV is showing it's age now. It's a C8

my tech habit still remains cheaper than a cocaine habit

[wraith fjord]

Building a new rig for Stalker and Elden Ring tomorrow! 😄

[agile harbor]

LG's are just robust. I know people over in /r/OLED_Gaming with 25k+ hours on their early models and no burn-in. Just need to do your due-diligence

[fleet wraith]

oh, I have no burn-in at all. It's more the newer panels are much nicer in lighter rooms

the higher brightness and the newer coatings do wonders

It's wild how far OLED tech has come. I was at CES during one of the early unveilings in 2008

[agile harbor]

For sure. Just wish they'd do MLA on the C-series.

Gotta pony up for G-series for that, but not available in 42".

[coral token]

stream it if can

[agile harbor]

Speaking of, LG announced a new line of 5120x2160 ultrawide OLED's today. two 45", one of them bendable, and one 39". The static models are 800r though so its turning some people off. https://www.lgnewsroom.com/2024/12/lg-unveils-worlds-first-bendable-5k2k-gaming-monitor-winner-of-three-awards-at-ces-2025/

[fleet wraith]

I'll probably go for the G-series for the next one

I'm gonna ride this current curved OLED for at least another couple of years, and we'll see where panel tech is then

[agile harbor]

I'd love to get back to 21:9 so I'll be watching those closely. If they do the same glossy coating as the TV's... sold

[fleet wraith]

but my primary TV needs an upgrade in a year or so

[onyx swan]

Do u guys get huge frame drops while entering populated areas/bases?

[agile harbor]

Many people do

[onyx swan]

Is there something I could do about it? It really is frustrating, can't do a thing in the bases walking on a powerpoint presentation

[wraith fjord]

This is why Ive had enough of series X and I'm building a PC lol

[agile harbor]

Best you can do is what everyone is doing. Custom Engine.ini's and settings tweaks. I don't have drastic drops in settlements, personally. Average drops by 8-10fps ish but that's about it.

What CPU do you have?

[onyx swan]

AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS

[fleet wraith]

that didn't narrow it down lol (edit: now it did)

[onyx swan]

Yeah i pressed enter by mistake XD

[wraith fjord]

Building a rig tomorrow w a 7900x and an rtx 4070

Should manage

[onyx swan]

It's a laptop btw so that could impact it, but when I leave the settlements i get 80-90 fps

It's like these bases/setllements are cursed with the frame drop curse or smthng

[fleet wraith]

Yeah you have some settings a bit too high. What's the GPU in the laptop

[onyx swan]

RTX 4050

16 gb of ram too

[spare coral]

What are your settings

[grizzled drift]

Yeah 800R isn’t bad for gaming, but bad if you wanna do anything else

[onyx swan]

Everything on medium (most of the graphical settings), upscaling mode on DLSS/quality, DLSS frame gen on and fsr disabled, environment quality is epic all of them (I heard that it has so substantial difference if its on epic or medium), light shafts also enabled and sharpness at 20%. The only settings that impact the performace (speaking from experience) i think are shadows and post proccessing which i have put at medium and low

[grizzled drift]

And these are WOLED, eww

I’ll wait for my 5K2K QD-OLED

[agile harbor]

No issues with latest gen WOLED here, but it'll come down to coating for me.

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I’ll stick with QD personally, and I want glossy coating

[agile harbor]

LG's shown they can do a curved glossy OLED with the LG Flex. Better not disappoint here.

[grizzled drift]

Or at least semi-gloss

I look forward to reviews of those though from Monitors Unboxed

[fleet wraith]

yeah, my monitor is QD-OLED

[fleet wraith]

I don't think you are going to be able to prevent the drop with that. the laptop doesn't have enough juice to overcome some optimization issues. you've already turned down hair a bit which is one of the bigger things. You could potentially try some enginetweaks mods, but that's gonna be around it

[onyx swan]

Yeah, im gonna try something with vortex I know people release some mods for the optimisation of the game so ill give it a try

[serene meteor]

does anyone get really bad frame rate when thunderstorms happen in the game? Mine dips to like 10 fps and i get bad stutters. gpu is 4070

[grizzled drift]

My frames actual go up during storms believe it or not lol

Been like that since the game released for me too, my fps always goes up during storms

[serene meteor]

what's your frame like in zalissya? i know my cpu is bad, so i expect it to be that way with all the npcs

[grizzled drift]

it stutters when I first walk into town but then smooths out and dips to about 90-100 fps

[serene meteor]

i dropped my resolution down to 1440p with dlss dlaa on, i need to test it now. FG off because the screen tearing is terrible

[grizzled drift]

Yeah that's what I'm on, 3440x1440 DLSS DLAA, All Epic Settings

[serene meteor]

what gpu?

[grizzled drift]

4090

[serene meteor]

i think my cpu is the problem, its an i7-7700. but i haven't had problems playing other games in 4k with dlss

[grizzled drift]

Def on the older side but it's this game tbh, still need some optimization and the current version of UE5 is rough on CPUs, the newer versions of UE5 like 5.4 help with this issue

[fleet wraith]

it's an 8 year old CPU in a game that is moderately CPU heavy and not the most optimized

also, is it the k or non-k version

[serene meteor]

i know. i kept the cpu because im use to playing games in 4k and the frame rate being low 45-60

[grizzled drift]

Yeah cause you know that @4k cpu don't matter as much as gpu

[serene meteor]

and always gpu bound, non-k

i was planning on upgrading it to the latest i7, but i dont really wanna do that yet, just for 1 game

[grizzled drift]

Yeah

Either wait for game to get more optimized, try to optimize things yourself, or buy new CPU

[fleet wraith]

It's less important than GPU but still pretty important for lows. I will say that this game is more CPU intensive than average. going from a 5900x to a 9800x3d got me an average increase of over 20 frames, and much better lows

[grizzled drift]

Correct

[fleet wraith]

it's likely gonna be a lot of games coming out soon at this point unfortunately since it's only a quad core CPU

[serene meteor]

i dont really play games anymore, especially modern games. this game is the first modern game i've played since elden ring. if i can make it to the next generation of cpus and get by even if im cpu bound in some games, that would be better for me. hopefully i can survive the frame rate tanking to 20 fps in cities. FG doubles it to 40, but i cant take the screen tearing when i leave zalissya so i keep it off

[fleet wraith]

yeah, FG isn't really designed to be used much below 60 FPS without adding massive visual issues and latency unfortunately

[hazy briar]

failed to load shaders

[onyx swan]

Well, my frames fixed since i put all my environmental graphics to medium which is weird, i dont get any frame drops in settlements which i got previously

really weird i can't really explain it

[hazy briar]

this is some bullsh** whenever i plan to play this game some bug happens , mine gets stuck at loading shaders and then it says failed to load shaders

[fleet wraith]

the newest patch should skip it on next load

[onyx swan]

Hmm that's really interesting what ur pc specs?

[hazy briar]

my game doesnt show any new update on steam

[fleet wraith]

it's 1.1.3, so it's not "new", just the newest

[hazy briar]

core i7 9th gen rtx 3060

[hazy briar]

like my steam is just showing play not update

[onyx swan]

did u update ur drivers? (edit: ah that's another issue)

[fleet wraith]

the update was a week ago

[onyx swan]

Try verifying the integrity of files, launching the game as admin, clear the system cache

[fleet wraith]

ok, looking at your post history: are you still installed on a HDD and not a SSD?

[onyx swan]

That could be also one of the problems, the game loads and runs smoother on an ssd rather than HDD

[fleet wraith]

It's a minimum requirement lol

[onyx swan]

Ah really? Lol i guess an SSD is the standard for these times XD

[fleet wraith]

yup, it's literally on the requirements listed as SSD. Most games at this point require a SSD since even consoles are SSD and have fast load stuff

[spare coral]

Yep, consoles also use SSDs so its basically a minimun requirement for games

[agile harbor]

Became my standard in 2009 🙃

[onyx swan]

I mean an SSD beats out the HDD in all aspects no? Except for the fact that HDD's are cheaper

[agile harbor]

In all but capacity per $

[hazy briar]

the problem is my ssd is only 222gb but its c drive so idk how to free up space in it its 70gb free

[agile harbor]

Determining what's using space and what you can move/life without. Disk Cleanup that's built a given, then using the systems built in Storage section in Settings to help identify what's what, then moving to 3rd party tools like WizTree

[fleet wraith]

you are going to need a new SSD tbh

even a SATA one would likely be fine

[hazy briar]

dude i am phuccd lol

[fleet wraith]

(though even an older NVME is way better than a SATA one)

[onyx swan]

I would recommend a program called TreeSize, it shows a detailed sight into what takes up space on ur disk, it helped me clean up some of the storage

[fleet wraith]

You need space for page file, so you can't fully fill up that windows drive

[agile harbor]

The fastest to scan by far is WizTree but yeah, all of these do the same thing. Just not WinDirStat, its incredibly slow.

[fleet wraith]

yeah, I'll just say though that I don't think a 250gb SSD really...holds up in 2024

[onyx swan]

Surely not considering that the game takes up 150 gb 😄

[glass vault]

Nice to have a 250-500gb for only the OS then a separate game drive.

[rare temple]

Best option would be to uninstall the game and reinistall then, rather than trying to patch it if disk space is an issue.

[fleet wraith]

yup, I do a 250gb partition for OS

He's currently got the game on a HDD. It's really not a wonder he's running into issues

[rare temple]

That's what I have. Just a normal 250GB SATA SSD as my boot drive. My 2TB M.2 NVME is my game drive.

[glass vault]

When I need more space I'm just gonna buy a u.2 drive instead of a m.2

[fleet wraith]

I have 2 4TB NVMEs, one 2 TB NVME, one 1TB NVME in a U.2 case to SAS link, and another 1TB I turned into an external

[onyx swan]

1 TB SSD's also became more cheaper as games became more storage heavy so I would think of investing in at least 1TB ssd, it's like 100e at most

[agile harbor]

I've still got 2x M.2 slots to fill, the other two are in use. I just don't need any more space 😆

[fleet wraith]

oh, and 2 500gb SATA SSDs

[glass vault]

I bought most of my drives when the NAnd crash happened 35$ per tb for SATA SSDs sign me up put them into software raid

[fleet wraith]

my mobo allows for 5 NVME, but going above 3 limits CPU pipeline so I didn't

[glass vault]

I still have a Asus hyper m.2 I got laying around I should probably put it to use

[agile harbor]

Some of them are just through the chipset which, unless you're working in something that's hitting multiple of them all at once heavily, really shouldn't be much of an issue day to day.

[hazy briar]

so if i uninstall the game a nd reinstall it how much gb will it be ?

[fleet wraith]

3 goes through chipset. It's the other 2 that go on CPU

[glass vault]

Would be nice to get more pcie lanes on consumer CPUs. Best of both worlds but it won't happen for so long

[rare temple]

The game is around 150GBs.

[agile harbor]

Yeah so three of them will share a single x4 link to the CPU which... eh, not that big of a deal for a gaming PC. Now, if they all kept large 4k footage for an editing machine and you're asking for files from multiple drives through the chipset, yeah then you might run into issues.

[fleet wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/y0wt6zO.png

[fleet wraith]

yeah, it shuts down the primary PCI lanes on mine, not the secondary. Using the secondary PCI also cuts my 1st slot down

3 NVME + 1 SAS link is enough for me for now

[agile harbor]

Man I wish Asus and MSI would figure out how to put block diagrams in their manuals. Asrock and Gigabyte have it figured out.

[glass vault]

I want to full x16 pcie lanes for gen 4 rather than a single gen 5

[agile harbor]

These are so nice to have! https://i.imgur.com/GxiNHuP.png

[agile harbor]

I'll rant and rant about the uselessness of Gen5 on mainstream consumer platforms

[fleet wraith]

I'm running only gen 4 NVME since it wasn't worth the extra heat for a gen5

the two 4TB drives are 990 pros

[agile harbor]

They could theoretically add switches to expand say, x4 lanes of Gen5 to x8 lanes of Gen4 but that adds cost

[fleet wraith]

since I'm going 5090, and I'll likely need to get another vertical riser, I wanted to make sure I left things at full just in case

I know it's unlikely to be saturated, but it's more for down the road

[agile harbor]

Man I'm waiting patiently to see how much over $2k it ends up being

[spare coral]

I wonder how big a 5090 would be

[glass vault]

GPUs don't need gen 5 but having a m.2 card with bifurcation to have 4 more slots is much better

[fleet wraith]

I said it before, it's still cheaper than a cocaine habit

[agile harbor]

This is what people don't get. Gotta look at it with perspective. Top end custom gaming PC's are still cheaper than say having a track car

[fleet wraith]

I'm at the director level in corporate, am late 30s with a wife that works as well, and I have no kids. I gotta spend on something

[spare coral]

If you want something cheaper get a console

[onyx swan]

pc master race, change my mind

[agile harbor]

Amen.

Could be into cars.. or boats.. or planes!. Now you want to talk expensive. Makes buying the latest flagship Nvidia GPU every two years seem like nothing.

[fleet wraith]

exactly

I do halo cards every 2 years, and full rebuilds every 4. All old parts go to good homes

[onyx swan]

even if you had a console you wouldn't get the privilege to get mods which are like the life source of Soc and the other series, even after the release of stalker 2 i saw people already pumping out mods for it not even a month after its release:D

[spare coral]

And this is without mod tools lol imagine once GSC releases mod tools

[onyx swan]

Lol, i can't even start to comprehend what the game is going to look like in the future (with the mods)

[agile harbor]

think you'll be hard pressed to find anyone here that disagrees with you lol

[fleet wraith]

yeah, I've been building computers for above 25 years

[agile harbor]

I almost want to start a new playthrough as I'm salty I didn't make a manual save before the point of no return

but I've gotta work on this backlog

[fleet wraith]

yeah I've just been playing slowly

[agile harbor]

S2 was my personal game of the year but I jumped right into Indiana Jones afterwards which i'm playing now and man.. decision became much harder.

[hazy briar]

well i have a tiny ssd so i guess imma have to uninstall stalker 2

[fleet wraith]

oh, I haven't been playing much else. the downside of having the money to buy all the nice builds is the work time that it takes to do it lol

[hazy briar]

cause its just buggy as hell

[fleet wraith]

yes, you are playing on a computer below the minimum specs. You are going to need to get another SSD tbh

[agile harbor]

Easy, just need ignore your social responsibilities/wife. Boom, all the time in the world 🤣

[fleet wraith]

instructions unclear, lost half my assets

[glass vault]

Gonna feel nice to get out of college and make money

[spare coral]

You can still game with only half

[grizzled drift]

Same, esp for AIB models, I’m expecting to pay around $2300-2500 for an ASUS STRIX model

[serene meteor]

i figured out that setting Hair to medium and/or setting it windowed full screen resolves the tanking of FPS in cities, and other random instances like when you reload. but i think im gonna wait for them to optimize the game more, and use this opportunity to play the original games. i really have no idea what's going on in the story and only played like 5 hrs of shadows of chornobyl like over 10 years ago, so I feel like im missing a lot

[sand nimbus]

Yk at this point pcs, even top tier hardware, is pure trash lol

See, in early 2000s, consoles dominated the scene. The ps2 was so unholy strong, governments used it as servers. It ate pcs Alive

Then pcs dominated the ps4 era. The ps4 was insanely bottlenecked by literally one of the slowest 8 core CPUs ever created. Its so incredibly bad. Ps4 pro actually had decent gpu power .

Nowadays its a mix of both. Both console and PCs are Just weak and overpriced. My thoughts? A crash is probably Happening soon, probably a few years after gta 6 release. Yes, gta 6 is such a era defining title

[hard juniper]

meh i think for pc a big part of the problem is games not being properly optimised (or finished) anymore, with too much reliance on upscaling and frame generation

though nvidia does take the piss with their pricing

[fleet wraith]

governments did not use the ps2 as a server. You are thinking of the PS3 and the cell super computers, which still weren't as great as regular supercomputers

[sand nimbus]

The first high-profile PS2 supercomputer cluster, using 70 PS2 consoles, was built by the US National Centre for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign, in 2003

[sand nimbus]

They make the biggest bank on AI research. Us gamers don't pay 1% of that. I wouldn't worry about pricing because the 50 series is gonna have some crazy AI fumble thats a game changer

[hard juniper]

no doubt

[fleet wraith]

the PS2 cluster wasn't a particularly strong supercomputer, and the NCSA is a partnership not fully governmental. The PS3 one was the big one used by the government. They did run it off the emotion engine, but it's not really what people think of when they think of the Playstation cluster

the PS3 one was the military one that was actually wild at the time

like for comparison, the airforce one was 1,760 PS3s

The PS2 one was neat, but it was a clear testbed

[outer crane]

Just looking for some advance, currently running a 4070ti super with an i9-9900k on ultrawide 1440p display would the cpu be the bottleneck if so what would be the right cpu to buy

[fleet wraith]

it'll likely depend on the game and how much you've been able to OC it. It's a 6 year old CPU

If you are running at full bandwidth, it's likely still generally ok

but if you it in anything below a PCI-E 3 x16, I think it does

i don't think z390 had PCI-E 4, but I could be wrong (and I'm assuming that's what you are on, not an older mobo chipset)

[outer crane]

yeah youre absoluetly right, currently trying to get stalker 2 to run smoothly but still cant get consistant performance had a look online and thought the i7 14700k may be an upgrade?

but then am i also looking at a new motherboard

[fleet wraith]

yeah, you are end of life on that mobo

and tbh, at that point you are also looking at new ram, probably some newer SSDs

9th gen also had the meltdown and other fixes for security that also impacted performance

[raw sleet]

Being that it's a DDR4 platform; upgrading the board/cpu/mem should be considered at this point before anything else

[fleet wraith]

it's not just DDR4, it's old DDR4. It was limited up to 2666, so can't even re-use the ram without causing some big bottlenecks

[raw sleet]

I was using similar setup up until last year, going from ddr4 3000 to ddr5 6000 and 9900k to 12900k was very significant

[fleet wraith]

also, if you've never repasted the CPU it's potentially throttling as well

[outer crane]

wow okay so its gunna be pricey

[glass vault]

I mean if you just want a newer platform it can be gotten for as little as 300$ pre tax. For a 7600x mobo and 16gb of ddr5 but closer to 450 for a 8core and more ram

[lavish mason]

anyone elses game freeze if they hit printscreen button

[glass vault]

My game crashes when I hit the power button

[dreamy iris]

In theory, in two weeks we will be able to properly run the game with a RTX 5090 😜

[glass vault]

Seems it will be longer until the 5090 is for sale

[agile harbor]

couldn't tell you, don't have one 😉

[lavish mason]

Me neither. It was today I discovered it's the snipping tool that causes the crash, and trying to find out what windows 11 hotkey for actually just print screen wash, was a bit of a nightmare

Working now!

[hard juniper]

still runs like ass because the problem is cpu load

[agile harbor]

You know its funny, I was going to comment that a 5090 isn't going to fix most people's problems with the CPU's we see often

[hard juniper]

yeah i know i'll be laughing very hard if someone actually upgrades to a 50 series card and then complains that the game doesn't run any better lol

[agile harbor]

CPU load concerns with this title here with a 7800x3D playing at 4K with a 4090

so yeah, its a problem

[flint spoke]

eh i think the cpu is the issue

4070 super seems to handle everything on ultra at least at 1440p

ah i see others mentioned the exact same thing

[tame hound]

anyone else still have issues with the game crashing every 20-30 minutes or so? its driving me nuts i just wanna play lol

[gray matrix]

I run on a pretty low end system, 16gb ram, rtx 3050 and a ryzen 5500 and honestly the game doesnt run too bad

[flint spoke]

idk for someone like me i dont think even 60fps runs good

higher fps feels sooo much better. even 70 fps is a huge jump from 60

and there are places like rostok where you're lucky if you can get 60

[gray matrix]

true true

[gray matrix]

For me i consider like 30 fps good as long as its smooth and doesn't stutter

I do use a preformance mod too though

[rough gale]

after all the update i mean why it still trash on optimization ?

[flint spoke]

cause its only unreal 5.1

probably. 5.5 is way better perf wise. gpu perf seems fine imo.

i dont understand why its so insanely cpu bottlenecked tho. but im pretty sure its mainly a 5.1 limitation

[flint spoke]

more power to you really. 30fps is unplayable for me. like legit unplayable

[grizzled drift]

https://youtu.be/29ZZTlJt9K8 - a video from Digital Foundry on Unreal Engine 5.4

https://youtu.be/BcmUZpdChhA - another video on 5.5

[flint spoke]

yup really big gains

if gsc wants to spend the time/resources/money to update to 5.5 or even 5.4 it'd be suuuuper helpful

[grizzled drift]

I want that noise reduction algorithm

[flint spoke]

but its a big task obviously

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I'm sure it's been talked about in their meetings

[flint spoke]

really in general you'd think more games used cpus better but its so much harder programming wise to use multiple threads and cores

but its desperately needed and in this in particular its an issue. shouldn't need a 9800x3d or whatever to get 70 fps in rostok

[grizzled drift]

https://youtu.be/BcmUZpdChhA?si=mXoj8HPNL-p8z8TE&t=547 the noise reduction is amazing (skipped to 9:07)

[flint spoke]

maybe, but considering how much content they're missing idk

the list of cut shit must be enormous. NVGs, probably the majority of the non story quests.

outside the story its such a barebones game

[grizzled drift]

I found it interesting how much better 9800X3D performs in this game compared to 7800X3D

[flint spoke]

like gameplay wise you may as well just play modded Anomaly

cause its the same thing but way better basically

it'll be interesting to see what they add outside of dlc. ideally they really should fill up the map with more content outside of dlcs but idk, I'm not betting on it.

[grizzled drift]

https://youtu.be/VN2_g_uzAA8?si=apswoV-0mHMR-Hzu&t=325 video on 7800X3D vs 9800X3D in Stalker 2

[grizzled drift]

Well on avg its only 11% faster than 7800X3D

but seems to have big gains in Stalker 2

oh you referring to anomaly lol my b

[flint spoke]

yeah its interesting. the architecture improvements from 5800x3d to 7800x3d to 9800x3d is really noticeable in this game

hell i think this is one of the very few games where I've ever wanted anything stronger than a 5800x3d

[grizzled drift]

Lol yeah I didn't want a 9800x3d but now I kinda do

[late ferry]

sqepticism has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grizzled drift]

I definitely don't need one tho

[flint spoke]

also the gameplay is so freakin casual. this game basically needs mods

[tame hound]

you arent having issues with crashing? idk wyf is going on but i constantly get the shipping crash

[flint spoke]

you can just casually spam medkits through every encounter in this game almost

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I need more hardcore game and more itemization so I'm fully modded

[tame hound]

if im lucky 30-40 minute begore a crash

[flint spoke]

i have some mods plus mhm's consumable thing. and man having medkits slowly heal is such a huuuuge improvement

tbh i should have just waited and played with mods lmao.

[grizzled drift]

Yep same, I'm using all MHM modules basically, even less loot, full tier detectors, mutant loot, etc

[flint spoke]

got so bored idk if I will even finish my first playthrough.

[gray matrix]

No luckily I haven't had issues with crashing

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I started a fresh playthrough with these mods

[gray matrix]

Yeah I get that

[tame hound]

performance is okay but i can not fix the crashing. ive given up at this point i dunno what to do to be able to play

[flint spoke]

yeah rn its a mess. i have novichok mutant, novichok ai, maklanes gunfight ai, mhms consumable, better ballistics 1.4 for guns.

[tame hound]

which sucks cuz i love the game an all i wannd do is play but it ruins the game to constantly crash

[flint spoke]

might wait for mhm 2.0 and run just that plus ai mods

cause too many separate mods is questionable balance wise and im kind of ocd

[flint spoke]

what type of crash

[tame hound]

exception acces violation then it says shipping over and over

[flint spoke]

could try manually cleaning shader cache

[grizzled drift]

https://imgur.com/a/jU8JKBC my mod list lol

[tame hound]

im not sure of the exact code it gives tho

[flint spoke]

verify game files. ddu and reinstall gpu drivers. idk

[flint spoke]

if its an oodle related crash its an intel cpu issue

[tame hound]

i did those. went as far as reinstalling the game no mods no nothing on the lowest settings and literally no change lol

im just stuck. benchmark my pc is fine. its just not meant to be i guess idk LOL

[flint spoke]

ddu and reinstall gpu driver?

[flint spoke]

isnt MHM not updated for 1.1.3 or does it not matter?

[tame hound]

no ddu but did reinstall gpu drivers

[flint spoke]

i would ddu so you know its 100% clean tbh

[grizzled drift]

Idk if all the values are "adjusted" so to speak for balancing purposes but otherwise it's working fine for me

[flint spoke]

also if your overclock is unstable it could be an issue

[tame hound]

nah no overclock at all

[flint spoke]

i think ima just wait. cause mhm 2.0 is around the corner.

[flint spoke]

what cpu do you have

any other unreal games crash on you?

[tame hound]

ryzen 7 3800x

[grizzled drift]

Oh did Ani say that in Groks discord?

[tame hound]

an nah not really

[flint spoke]

they're working on it rn basically. cause they were on vacation or something and just got back. so it'll be a little bit but should be coming im hoping this week

[grizzled drift]

and yeah that's fair, I don't mind starting over again when that drops

[flint spoke]

yeah idk whats up then, def not a cpu issue since your're ryzen

[tame hound]

looking into a new pc currently but i dont think the specs are the real reason for the crashes cuz my pc isnt that outdated. ryzen 7 3800x 2080ti and 32gb of ram

[flint spoke]

they broke a lot of stuff last patch it seems so hopefully next patch it works for you

[tame hound]

yeha have seen this. been hopeful but not sure how long that patch will take an maaaan i wann play lool

[flint spoke]

i need a mod to reskin the tourist suit

i hate it, it looks terrible in first person imo.

[grizzled drift]

Just read up in Grok discord, looks like Ani is trying to have MHM2.0 out by New Years day

Looks to be almost done

[flint spoke]

yeah I saw that but you how it is with mods haha

i said my tree mod for fallout 4 2.0 would prob come out in a month 6 months ago 😂 ofc he seems to have way more energy for modding than me but anything can happen

[grizzled drift]

Yeah lol, fingers crossed tho, looks like some exciting changes

[sharp meadow]

Zen 6 is rumoured to have more cores and the 9800x3d is the best of the best CPU so theoretically games dont design for x3d CPUs but unfortunately yk

[coral token]

found a way to remove 1.1.3 update myself tbh

[tawny thicket]

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz

[coral token]

damn that's a list

[grizzled drift]

[agile harbor]

holding off, I know it'll feel cool to get and install then nothing will actually change in day to day from 7800x3D lol

[grizzled drift]

Basically lol

[agile harbor]

If we get 12-core CCD's with Zen6 though

[grizzled drift]

Wait for it to be $330

[grizzled drift]

Ikr

[agile harbor]

12-core single CCD x3D is the dream

[grizzled drift]

Then 16-core single ccd X3D

[agile harbor]

lol well that's a pipedream lol

[grizzled drift]

[agile harbor]

12-core CCD's would bring us 24-core chips though which would be monsters

[grizzled drift]

Yeah

Need one of those NV Link Spines but for X3D chips

Connect like 72 X3D chips together

[tawny thicket]

im wondering : can they put V-cache onto C cores? bc then they could get alt least 12 cores / CCD

[coral token]

C cores?

What you mean by that lmao

[agile harbor]

Zen4c/Zen5c

[tawny thicket]

some people call them AMD's E-cores but they have the exact same architecure as regular cores but they are smaller

[agile harbor]

There are Epyc models along with some of the 8000 series APU's that use cut down Zen cores that are physically smaller

[coral token]

So lesser cores that are used on APUs?

[agile harbor]

Effective L3 cache per core is reduced to save space but the IPC is the same as its big brothers.

[tawny thicket]

and server, they have the exact same IPC but lower clocks

[agile harbor]

https://i.imgur.com/lVAREaK.png

[coral token]

https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-zen4-zen4c-scaling found this honestly seems like not really worth it unless a lot cheaper compared

But considering what X3D is segmented for doubtful we will see V cache on those chips

But what I have researched Zen5c is on 3nm not on 5nm like Zen5

But the fact Zen5c will be on same IPC but lower voltage and smaller die size and hence possibly also higher clocks since is on 3nm @tawny thicket

[graceful stratus]

true, my vram seems to overload after 1,5h of game and i have to restart it

this 1.13 patch is trash

[flat brook]

Dear lord

[grizzled drift]

[grizzled drift]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mJpfAu3_5gU

[coral token]

found a potential solution

[flat brook]

Classic jensen, you know

[grizzled drift]

Gotta love em tbh lol the way he explains things is top tier

[coral token]

only way I resolved the whole shader crashing was deleting all my existing mods for now

[flat brook]

Yeah his way of handling conferences is amazing, you know

[grizzled drift]

Remember, the more you buy, the more you save

imagine having 2 miles worth of wires connecting your 72 GPUs

[flat brook]

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D4E22AQEHLrCliGV9-Q/feedshare-shrink_800/feedshare-shrink_800/0/1713441183450?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=byIk0mibo_3hZmVSaAeqquHhMDl9wHK0y_-5gw7yKzI

[keen hemlock]

Having issues running on my pc, getting crashes for seemingly no reason every 30 or less minutes;
Specs are Ryzen 5700x3D with a 6650 XT, 32 Gigs of DDR4 at 2400 Mhz and installed on an 970 Evo SSD;
Machine is on a fresh install of Windows 11

Error is LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\ (directory) ] [Line: 880] CurrentQueue.Device->GetDevice()->GetDeviceRemovedReason() failed at D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:910 with error 887A0006

Stalker2_Win64_Shipping
(x6)
kernel32
ntdll

I've tried with framegen on an off and crashes still happen
The crash is always at the same line

[tame hound]

I have pretty much the same exact issue with similar specs and also a pretty fresh windows install. I can not figure out anything to fix it man

[keen hemlock]

What specs do you have? I have a hunch surrounding the CPU.

[tame hound]

I have a ryzen 7 3600x rtx2080ti 32gb ddr4 and the same ssd

So your cpu is better. Could be the CPU I’ve thought the same

[keen hemlock]

Nevermind, hunch out the window;
I was wondering if it might have had something to do with the X3D's greater cache size, but it shouldn't;
Technically this is @plain elm 's machine.
She has failure on compilation often as well.

My personal machine is a 7900X, RX 6800, and 32 GB DDR5 at 5200 Mhz;
I have had hardly any issues; Couple of crashes at most while in game and a couple of crashes compiling but that's it.

I don't think it's AMD CPU related broadly speaking but I could be wrong.

[plain elm]

I know nothing about PC stuff so Crash is doing the troubleshooting on my behalf

[keen hemlock]

What speed does your RAM run at? Do you have AMD EXPO on?

[tame hound]

I don’t think it’s AMD related either tbh. An if I remember right I run at 3200 and don’t believe I have EXPO on

[plain elm]

I remember that some sort of Adrenaline driver update really messed up Stalker 2

[keen hemlock]

I reverted drivers from this point and it seems to only do it every 30 mins or so;
Prior to this when I updated to latest driver it was about every 2 minutes (I timed it)

[tame hound]

lol I gotchu that makes sense

[tame hound]

Yeah I don’t remember how I fixed it but I had been crashing the second I opened the game. Now it’s the same, about every 30 minutes

Sometimes shorter, some times I almost get an hour before a crash lol an I’ve left the game paused for a while not using my pc an the game still crashes after a bit

[keen hemlock]

The compilation errors:

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\RenderingThread.cpp] [Line: 1273] GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs

Seem to be an issue with how they've written the multithreading code for the game and one thread doesn't return some sort of result and because of it, it times out waiting for the thread to finish and it just never does.

[plain elm]

Before I upgraded my PC, my first build never crashed, but that was on v1.0

[keen hemlock]

^ it was also with a i5-7600K on Windows 10

My build is currently on Windows 10 as well, so it's not impossible for it to be weird driver errors with Win 11

[tame hound]

I’m on windows 10

[keen hemlock]

Hm, this certainly makes things more interesting

[tame hound]

Only thing really in common here is the AMD processor. I’d have to look at my crash log or wait for a crash to happen when I get home to see if it’s the same thing happening but I believe it was

[tawny thicket]

i have the latest drivers and it works perfectly fine

[tawny thicket]

have you cleared the shader cache?

[agile harbor]

in my 115 hour playthrough, I saw two or three system memory leak issues that resulted in a hard crash with a UE crash screen like that. That's it though. Thoroughly enjoyed the game otherwise.

But I monitor many system stats in realtime on another display so I can always link what's happening in game to something happening stat wise with the system.

[keen hemlock]

I have not, will try that

[tawny thicket]

though i'm on win-dowes 11

and my install is broken sooo half the driver features dont work

but i think thats just OS related (reinstalled my drivers 50 times at this point)

https://tenor.com/view/harold-pain-glitch-deform-content-aware-gif-16083345316327440629

[tawny thicket]

(R5 5600 G ) EXPO on @3200MHz CL 16 its fine so i dont think thats it either ( and i have an RX 6600)

[vale delta]

@keen hemlock I also found this looking up the error code: https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1h4x0km/possible_fix_for_game_crashes/

[tawny thicket]

AMD cards below the RX 7700 XT dont have acces to that

[vale delta]

[tawny thicket]

and no RX 6000 card has acces to it

[tame hound]

Lucky man I have a lot of fun while playing but in 18 hours of play time I’ve barely gotten past needle in a haystack lol a like 5 other side quest. The constant crashing makes it hard to wanna play

[tame hound]

Maybe I should try doing this to more accurately see what’s causing it

[keen hemlock]

Damn.

[agile harbor]

HAGS?

[glass vault]

Witches?

[agile harbor]

lol

I'm not in front of either of my PC's right now but I wasn't aware hardware accelerated GPU scheduling wasn't available below a certain GPU tier, unless i'm misunderstanding what was being said

[visual terrace]

this game has been well optimized from the start. i have no idea what some people were on about

[hard juniper]

yeah man my 10090 Ti and 10800X3D were running it just fine, dunno why people complained

[tawny thicket]

Yeah

[tawny thicket]

or well the post from IDK when said so

[tawny thicket]

i dont know either

"this game has performance issues" Nah that sound like a boatload of malarky to me on my TOTALLY Ryzen 6 6600 AND PTX 5600 G

PTX

[glass vault]

PTX 5090

[tawny thicket]

I WANT i know it may or may not cost an arm and a leg + a kidney + another one + some honey NO WAIT THATS TOO SWEET + gasoline yeah thats thats not too sweet but i am sure it would be worth it

[spare coral]

I love older women (?

[frail barn]

how do you think a 3060ti and amd ryzen 5 fairs now after the patches

[agile harbor]

😉

[agile harbor]

I haven't played in a week or two but if we're still on 1.1.3, performance hasn't really changed much.

the patches weren't directly addressing it for the most part

[spare coral]

Yep, the performance is about the same as release (maybe a little bit more stable for me)

[coral token]

happy new years stalkers

[tawny thicket]

happy new year for you, and everyone in you time zone!

[tawny thicket]

which RYZEN 5 ?

depends for all we know it could be a 1600 or it could be a 9600X

but the GPU should suffice

[frail barn]

Whoops 5600

[tawny thicket]

for me on a fairly similar 5600 G (has less cache) the updates made the settlements run about 10Fps better

(the 5600 G's CPU part is the same as the 5500)

[coral token]

when is it for you?

now am returning to the zone hopefully the shaders load again fine

[tawny thicket]

11:37 PM

[coral token]

ah just few more minutes so here they kept sending it even earlier tbh

I mean fireworks

[tawny thicket]

ooohhh YEAH they did that here too

[coral token]

stupid shaders failed again

[tawny thicket]

2-1 hours ago

[coral token]

well at least they are set

[tawny thicket]

i thought that deleting your mods fixed it🤔

[tawny thicket]

has it finished the compile once?

[coral token]

it has

time to install that mod that removes shader warmup

[tawny thicket]

hmmm

do that

i kinda like DIY'd the shader compile mod

[coral token]

if only vortex would cooperate and show stalker 2

[tawny thicket]

i never use vortex

i always just go to the manual download

[coral token]

I mean I will go back to manual myself as well

[tawny thicket]

well happy new years eve for everyone in my timezone!🥳 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[coral token]

happy new years to you too

[fleet wraith]

I'm assuming the answer is yes but we've had others here say no: you are installed on a SSD right?

[coral token]

Ofc am

[fleet wraith]

Just making sure. We've had some people on hdd

[flat brook]

Happy new year gamers!

[tawny thicket]

you too! 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[plucky quail]

Ey No matter how good your PC is you will aways ask. Can it run S.t.u.t.t.e.r. 2: Lag of Chornobyl?

[tawny thicket]

😀😄🙂😕🙁☹️☹️😣😖😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😤😤😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🔪 🩸💀☠️👻

[plucky quail]

I think this game gonna be for the next Years a game where you test new GPUs.

Like how much less worse the game will run

[tawny thicket]

GPUs be like when they are forced to run the game :
😀😄🙂😕🙁☹️☹️😣😖😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😤😤😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🔪 🩸💀☠️👻

[plucky quail]

GPUs be like:
😀 😄 ...... Unreal Engine Crash

[tawny thicket]

CPUs : 😀😄🙂😕🙁☹️☹️😣😤😤😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🔪 🩸💀☠️👻

[tawny thicket]

[plucky quail]

8GB Vram:
😀 😄 ☹️ 👨🏼‍🦽

[tawny thicket]

🤬🔪👨🏼‍🦽 🩸💀☠️👻

[hollow kettle]

I purchased cyberpunk 2077 today and I am amazed by how well it runs with my 4060. Ultra settings + ultra ray tracing (no path tracing) with dlss quality 60-100 fps no frame gen.

Compared to this game where I can only run medium/high settings and get 60-80 fps with dlss quality no frame gen. (Both at 1080p)
UE5 in both games why such a big difference

[plucky quail]

8K?

[tawny thicket]

ye

they tried that with the 3090 too

[plucky quail]

Yea Like i said Stutter 2 Lag of chernobyl

[glass vault]

They probably will since 8k TVs are more common place

[hard juniper]

cyberpunk does not run off ue5
that's the difference lol

[tawny thicket]

🤬😡🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬👺👺👺👺👺👺👺🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸💀☠️👻

[plucky quail]

I think AMD did it only with the 7900XTX

[hollow kettle]

I read they didn’t use red engine and used ue5 instead

[plucky quail]

Nah

[tawny thicket]

(im fine 😀 )

[hard juniper]

they will be switching to ue5 for future games, cyberpunk used their in house engine

makes me worried but i'm sure cdpr will make sure it's polished

[hollow kettle]

What the heck an article I read said they planned red engine for cyberpunk but went with ue5

[hard juniper]

might be talking about the cyberpunk sequel

[hollow kettle]

Witcher 4 will be ue5? I hope not

[tawny thicket]

like cyberpunk ??????😂🤣

[hard juniper]

well, after cyberpunk i would hope they take their time haha

[plucky quail]

My favoured Game at the momend is Gohst of tsushima what runs more than 2x Faster Looks really good and you could play that game with a 5 3600 at 60. What you cant do in Stalker2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaCf2Qmvy18

[hollow kettle]

I was blown away with Tsushima when I upgraded from 1070 to 4060

[plucky quail]

They are working on UE5 to make it better for Gaming less stuttery

[hard juniper]

ghost of tsushima was incredible even on PS5, gorgeous game

[hollow kettle]

I want to install red dead 2 again just to test graphics on this pc

[plucky quail]

Its ass that so many big Game maker swich to UE5 what is a shame

[plucky quail]

Red Dead 2 runs also 2X better on my PC and looks better

[tawny thicket]

yeah i hope they get rid of that STUPID word partiotioning system

[tawny thicket]

thats why UE5 games are so stuttery

[hard juniper]

my favorite thing to do is revisit old intensive games with new hardware, metro exodus is always a pleasure

[hollow kettle]

The only ue5 game I have played lately that runs well for me is marvel rivals

[hard juniper]

indiana jones doesn't run that bad for how good it looks

[plucky quail]

The thing is Star citizen Runs better than UE5 games but uses Cry engine and also looks better

[hollow kettle]

Ooo I have that also it didn’t run so well on 1070. Was playable 45-60 fps but it would look amazing on my new system

[hard juniper]

well star citizen's performance is also highly dependent on where you are, depending on hardware i'd say it's pretty close to how bad stalker 2 gets

[hollow kettle]

Oh yeah I forgot Indiana jones. Sucks I can’t even launch the game unless it’s on low textures. Technically medium too but not worth it with 8gb vram

[tawny thicket]

its basicly like minecrafts chunk system BUT the chunks are GIGANTIC with 10000000X more detail and the whole thing gets loaded in ALL AT ONCE you pass a border/line

[plucky quail]

I think indi works good cus they used Vulkan and thus worked more on making the game run on that

Also For me Vulkan is much better than DX12. Like games like R6 with Vulkan was just soo good and now with DX12 it runs like stalker=Stutter.