pc-specs

[glass vault]

I'm mainly taking about the foliage how everything is pretty much black and nothing have different colours to make it have more depth

Too much black on everything

[high quarry]

thats very much the light dir, would be better facing other way

I wanna double nanite detail a moment though, see if it makes a big difference

tries a large shader compile for that, for some reason

The main reason I turned nanite down, wasnt for the buildings, its so I didnt drop to 130 fps with NPCs in my face

[glass vault]

Nanite is a cool tech but man. Devs should use it more wisely mainly for distance. Would be nice if we can adjust the draw distance for how much detail is being rendered

[high quarry]

its kind of because it has an initial cluser size, and it splits geometry down until it runs out of budget

[wintry needle]

why are my save games dated exactly 2 time zones away from my real one?
example: saved the game at 18:10 on the PC, save time is 20:10

is the time zone hardcoded to Kyiv? 😄

[high quarry]

EEST?

I wouldnt notice, I am on the same timezone

[glass vault]

Wonder how well stalker 2 is gonna run on the 50 series high end

[wintry needle]

buy one and let us know 😛

[glass vault]

Aiming for the 5090 if I can get one 100% will tell

[tawny thicket]

what is "ultra quality" and what is "native"?

[glass vault]

Upscaling tech being quality and native meaning no upscaling

[agile harbor]

As it stands now, this game will need something faster than current generation x3D chip to fully utilize a what a 5090 might be capable of, at least based on how it runs now with 4090 and 7800x3D.

[wintry needle]

it's amazing how much better the concrete looks in the native image

[high quarry]

Ultra Quality is 77%

Native means no upscaling, full 1440

[glass vault]

It is possible of a game engine limitation as well. But it's unlikely to be hit with a 5090

[agile harbor]

Yeah you're not wrong, this game in particular still needs work on that front.

[uneven portal]

one question nvidia reflex is active? how can i change the setting?

[tawny thicket]

(like i know what they mean)but upscaling shouldnt make half the grass disapaer

[agile harbor]

If you're using frame gen, it'll be forced on.

But the setting is in the Video tab, I believe, not the graphics tab.

[glass vault]

Wonder if AMD codename medusa x3d chips will hit the engine limit. 12core x3d ccd will be amazing

[mighty barn]

https://github.com/ColesyM/S2SettingsGenerator

[uneven portal]

niceee

[high quarry]

9800x3D is fine so far though, we will have to see with 5000.

[grizzled drift]

My guy made it to the pinned messages

[agile harbor]

I think the problem (not really a problem) is just 4090. Its so absurdly fast that your limitations shift unless you REALLY load it up. The in game default Epic doesn't do it, had to use your tool and do Ultra. Hence my thought process for 5090.

[glass vault]

I can't wait for 24core Ryzen 9 chips be a nice upgrade from 16core

[agile harbor]

12-core CCD's will be a nice shift forward.

[tawny thicket]

that would probably need C cores

[grizzled drift]

6090 will be the true card of choice

[high quarry]

We also need Intel to do the same, 12 P-Core only with more L3 cache to compete.

[grizzled drift]

have to buy that simply cause the number

[glass vault]

Its zen6 seems to be the last generation for am5 systems

[agile harbor]

Its certainly a nice one. ..

[grizzled drift]

Can't pass up on a 69 card

[glass vault]

I'm assuming when am6 board becomes a thing the Ryzen naming will get changed

[tawny thicket]

😀🙂😕😐🫤😕🙁☹️😣😖😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬👺👺👺👹👺

[agile harbor]

Speaking of changing names.. I assume you've all seen RDNA4's name may be changing.

[tawny thicket]

AMD WHY JUST why

[glass vault]

They did say am5 will be supported till 2027 and medusa is gonna release around 2027

[agile harbor]

well, naming scheme for client cards

[high quarry]

I think we will see a Zen 5 refresh this time.

[grizzled drift]

Just don't be like Intel and we'll be alright

[uneven portal]

but intel's new gpu doesn't look that bad

[grizzled drift]

The B580?

[wintry needle]

typical... by the time I'll be able to afford it, they phase it out 😄

[tawny thicket]

and i think their 60class would be a replacement of the 700 class

[grizzled drift]

Seems like a good budget gpu option

[high quarry]

but, can intel do a B880 or something with 2x render slices...

[agile harbor]

I have a system with an RX6600 in it for tinkering/backup. I want to get a B580 just to play with it.

[uneven portal]

yea is like a 250 euros 4060 whit more vram and driver updates

[glass vault]

The 9080xt from AMD seems to be the best bang for buck

[grizzled drift]

Yeah heard good things about it, think I watched like one video

[uneven portal]

people no longer have a good image of intel, but that's the good thing, you force the company to change.

[tawny thicket]

......driver updates that are required to play some games

[grizzled drift]

Yeah Intel is a shining example of what not to do

[uneven portal]

you forget that it is the 2nd generation of new graphics in a preset market, the drivers finally came out and surprise the price of the gpu.

[high quarry]

I would be more confident buying an Intel GPU vs CPU atm..

[grizzled drift]

Yeah GPUs seem fine

[uneven portal]

we will see what they do with the processors i have no problems but i will probably switch to amd in 2027 if they do not improve.

[grizzled drift]

6 months from now, people reporting Oxidized(Rusty) Intel GPUs /s

[glass vault]

Intel is making a comeback only via GPU market their CPU size is still need major change. TBF they did go to tile/chiplet design and remove SMT which is two big changes to a CPU it's kinda like Ryzen 1st gen it has alot of issues but they could make it faster than AMDs offerings

[agile harbor]

I have a hard time swallowing single chip generation sockets.

[uneven portal]

since evga left, there is no good assembler for me.

[agile harbor]

the idea of. I'm not eating motherboards.

[grizzled drift]

I miss EVGA

[high quarry]

Yeh, eyes on Intel in 2027, for CPU

[glass vault]

They might be following AMD LGA 1700 had 3 gens two being refreshes tho

[uneven portal]

can either go very well or very poorly

[agile harbor]

Well, lets say 2.5. I seem to recall LGA1851 being reported to only get one but I suppose the owners can hope.

[glass vault]

https://imgur.com/a/cxdVb08 mee too man

[tawny thicket]

WHAT HOW COULD YOU have not tried to eat motherboards yet they ARE TASTY

[uneven portal]

look, amd does some things right, but the warranty issues are the worst.

[wintry needle]

bit on the chewy side, 8/10 would have another

[glass vault]

Never had issues with AMD yet. And hopefully never have to

[agile harbor]

allergic to tin

[glass vault]

Rocking 3 gtx 260s I got a sli bridge I can be gaming

[tawny thicket]

Where are you getting that info from

assuming you have a scource for that

[uneven portal]

don't you remember what happened with the 7000 series?

[glass vault]

I forgot to crop out my ammo oops

[wintry needle]

"warranty issues" would be more of the manufacturer like Asus or MSI etc., not AMD directly

[tawny thicket]

and did people get warranties rejected? none that i heard of

[high quarry]

Was AMD reference too somewhat, with the heatpipe issue

[glass vault]

It was mainly mobo partners making back bios for x3d frying

[wintry needle]

stick to sapphire, the evga of the amd side 😄

[tawny thicket]

that happened but it got resolved fairly quickly IIRC

[high quarry]

my powercolor has been solid

[agile harbor]

That was such a small issue the lasted all of a week, if you think about it.

[uneven portal]

well they reported that it was normal to have 110 degrees on the gpu... aniway if I buy any graphics card 100% would be sapphire

[glass vault]

ohh he is talking about the reference gpu cooler issue

[agile harbor]

GN, as they do, made it "seem" like more of an issue in people's minds.

[tawny thicket]

depends on the way you look at it

[high quarry]

but it would have been over a longer period, if nothing was done, even if the number of CPU deaths was small at that time

[glass vault]

i want sleek cards like the evga 770 SC the gold and black is so good looking. not RGB barf

[agile harbor]

Had to answer someone the other week elsewhere who came in and asked if he should avoid an Asus motherboard so his 9800x3D chip doesn't blow up. (in December 2024) ughhhh the misinformation.

[vernal echo]

has anyone else playing the gamepass version of stalker noticed how sometimes you have to force updates by clicking on the game and others it does it automatically in the background without the app being open. I dont know if i got todays update yet but todays date is on the last updated section lol

[glass vault]

i bought my 7950x3d right after the fix came out for the mobo. the bio rev was right before the fix. i used it for so long but it seems i was fine my dumbass forgot to check bios rev

[agile harbor]

The amount of actually affected chips was so small, so I"m not surprised. I used my (at the time) 7900x since launch week and it survived.

[glass vault]

it was only affecting x3d chips because of the sensitve x3d cache

[void jasper]

Howdy, boys. If anyone who knows PCs well could give me a hand with a pretty stupid question, I'd really appreciate it.
I'm running GTX 1650 4GB and i5-10400F 64 GB RAM.
Can I even play this game? I've just booted it up, all my settings are on low and I'm having 5 FPS.

[high quarry]

Short answer: No
Long answer: No

[void jasper]

Oh.

[glass vault]

its mainly 6gb vram cards and more you are sadly right under the minimum requirements

recommend a intel b580 if you are looking at new cards

[vernal echo]

Ive been using a rtx 4090 on a msi AI1300p since oct 2022 and a 7950x3d and x670e hero a few months after they released and it was quite an interesting launch lol i got my 7950x3d and x670 e hero the month after they released the update haha

[void jasper]

Well, that's a big shame. Thank you boys nonetheless.

[glass vault]

7950x3d gang

[vernal echo]

have you tried that game boost thing in the bios thats basically like ryzen master legacy mode

[high quarry]

yey, shader compile freeze, after I just did it 10x in a row no problem 😄

[glass vault]

honesty haven't done anything other than undervolting it like my old 5900x i got luck i was -20 all cores

[tawny thicket]

try pot-a-toe mode

[high quarry]

wont matter, even on extremely low settings will be hitting 5GB

[tawny thicket]

nevermind

[glass vault]

probably should try to undervolt my 7950x3d. too bad its at my dorm still. only got my laptop rocking their strixpoint apu

[vernal echo]

I tired it but couldn't really notice it change anything so i just put PBO on in the bios and leave it at that lol

[glass vault]

after swapping to x3d i am never going to buy a normal x variant just because of the power consumption. i like that max 120w tdp.

[agile harbor]

Quick and dirty -30 all-core in Curve Optimizer. Of course, unless you get unlucky and its not quite stable.

[glass vault]

i did -20 when that was the max before they increased it

[high quarry]

My 9800x3D cant do -30
My 5800x3D could

[agile harbor]

Oddly my Asrock board allows for -40, which my 7900x ran for over a year with out hiccup. My 7800x3D however couldn't maintain even -30 so its at -20.

[high quarry]

I have a couple of cores that start getting angry around -23

[agile harbor]

My old 5800x I did the unthinkable. Spent a whole weekend doing it per-core with core cycler and never again. Never again.

[high quarry]

so I just run -20

[glass vault]

i gotta resetup my 5900x build into a rack case at some point. maybe i put my 3080ti into it for a gaming vm

[agile harbor]

good candidate for that

[high quarry]

I have a spare 5900x too

[grizzled drift]

Yeah I run -30 Offset All-Core on my 7800X3D

[high quarry]

Found a mid balance for Nanite:
Much better distance detail, and up close things are less square.

https://i.imgur.com/LrJJJWd.jpeg

[glass vault]

too bad its not a 20 series for the soul reason being a way to bypass the limitation of only passthrough to a single vm. turing based gpus you can pass through to multiple vms

i tried a xeon 2670 v3 12 threads of it and a 1050ti and it works perfectly for small games

[high quarry]

Updated preset: https://gist.github.com/ColesyM/4c9f699d65ab25e12e058b2db5b470b1

[glass vault]

i am really glad i bought a nice 3d printer saved my ass so many times mainly with hdd caddies

Netapp HDD caddies should not cost 8$ each I would need 24 of them. And I'm not buying them

[toxic lance]

I don't know if it's true. I read on some website that Stalker 2 comes with ray tracing enabled without the option to disable it in the game options, is that true?

[agile harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/its-complicated-difficult-complex-not-easy-roast-of-alec-baldwin-gif-15016231

[glass vault]

Yes but it is software done so you don't need a rtx series or Radeon 6000 or newer

[high quarry]

It's shader based ray tracing, in the sense it traces cached probe textures.

[glass vault]

My other idea was buying old Tesla cards but new games with 1080p show that is not an option anymore

[wooden rapids]

Any idea how ti hav less noise in RT?

[toxic lance]

But is this ray tracing that is activated by default as heavy as the other ray tracing that we can activate in other games?

[high quarry]

With the defaults, yes, its pretty demanding

but, being shader based, it scales quite linearly with GPU performance, not RT cores, assuming it has enough VRAM.

[glass vault]

probably worse performance compared to a 40 series hardware based but better performance for older cards

it has benefits and downsides. im specualating since we don't have hardware RT options yet we could probably see the difference when we get the ability to try the two side by side

[toxic lance]

In the game itself, the game is running very well, only when I get to the camps do I notice a drop in FPS.

[toxic lance]

True

[glass vault]

happens with me on a 3080ti its par for the course with camps

[toxic lance]

Wtf... And what graphics settings and resolution do you play on?

[glass vault]

1440p med

dlss upscaling & fsr FG

pretty sure im vram limited was playing at HIGH earlier then too many fps drops

[toxic lance]

What is your average FPS outside and inside the camps?

[high quarry]

Amazon US has a good 7900XT price atm: https://i.imgur.com/kXTPPJv.png

[glass vault]

i locked it to 60fps so i will get 120 stable with no fps drops

[glass vault]

i heard the 8800xt or 9080xt whatever is aiming for that same sale pricing roughly

[high quarry]

We should find out first week of Jan

[toxic lance]

I won't be exaggerating, I'm out of the computer right now. But with rtx 4060ti 1440p/medium DLSS+FG outside the camp it's between 100 and a little more. Now in the camps it can reach up to 60, 70, 80 FPS oscillating

[glass vault]

i think 9080xt is the naming scheme they bigh be going for similar to nvidia first 2 nums are generation second 2 are class

[glass vault]

fps after frame gen or is this the number pre frame gen

[spice timber]

PC was not crashing after switching RAM slots and updating the game but crashing came back again and it crashes after 20 minutes. Bruh

[toxic lance]

interesting, if I lock the FPS by the Riva Tuner* and activate the FG I have a strange game feeling

[glass vault]

vsync only affects the pre frame gen number so you will get 120fps if you lock it to 60fps since framegen doubles the frames

[high quarry]

sounds like its only doing 30-50 pre framegen

[grizzled drift]

https://imgsli.com/MzMwOTE4 - comparison

[spare coral]

Final fantasy 16's vsync hardlocks the frames
So if i have 60hz it will lock to 60fps even with framegen so it will only do 30fps

[high quarry]

hard to see the difference with shifting daylight, would be easier to see with fixed indoor lighting

[fleet wraith]

Yeah I'm doing -20 on my 9800x3d but also doing +200 on PBO with a 10x scalar

[high quarry]

Yeh, I am yet to hear of one that wont do the +200

[fleet wraith]

I just don't feel like doing per core to get past -20

[high quarry]

I had it up to 5590 with bclk, but it wasnt worth it, could just use a fixed mult for that

[late ferry]

dilber has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fleet wraith]

My 4090 I just do increased power limit instead of messing with voltage. Running +275 and +1000 on mem

[high quarry]

Yep, at -30 it always tested on the first 2 cores fine, so I am sure some will do -30, but I'd have to go through them all.

[fleet wraith]

I had it higher than that before but had one game it was unstable in so I dropped it

[fleet wraith]

Yeah I had instability on a shader compile with it. It passed Occt and cinebench but wasn't worth it

[high quarry]

mine passed both those, but would fail on linpack on one of the cores above 23

[grizzled drift]

I got you hold on

[fleet wraith]

Mine passed linpack. It was only on a shader one

[grizzled drift]

I just reloaded a save with those photos but I accidentally moved like an inch lol

[high quarry]

I might have a go at per-core over xmas

[glass vault]

Some games just hate overclocked parts

[fleet wraith]

My cooling is great so wasn't worth trying to drop heat more with some minor instability especially when I can already hold boost

Highest I've gotten it with full PBO on a stress test was 81c

[eager sandal]

Me after every patch thinking maybe today is the day. You big dumb idiot.

[high quarry]

Mine was hitting 84 if it got to 165W

[fleet wraith]

I'm in south Florida so ambient temps are already higher than a lot of places

[glass vault]

I rarely see my pc go above 80 for GPU or cpu

[high quarry]

I am happy to ppt cap at 160W, on an 8 core..

[glass vault]

Happy with temps being only air cooled

[high quarry]

its never going over 120 most of the time

[fleet wraith]

I'm running the 420mm arctic freezer III, and I'm in an antec flux pro case so my airflow is great

[high quarry]

I have the Arctic III 360

[fleet wraith]

Yeah I wanted the larger radiator

[high quarry]

in a 5000D Airflow

[glass vault]

I am hoping to case swap to define 7 XL. Brushed metal looks so good

[fleet wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/7tPeN7B.jpeg

[glass vault]

Especially since I got a MSI suprim with brushed metal to go along with it

[fleet wraith]

That's the build. Last piece to do will be to swap the 4090 for the 5090 because of brain problems

[high quarry]

😄

[fleet wraith]

The two intake fans on the bottom really help with the vertical GPU heat

[glass vault]

Reminds me I should probably clean my pc. I haven't for almost a year now

[fleet wraith]

How's your case pressure?

[glass vault]

Got 6 120mm intakes and only one out. Extremely positive. Had it on carpet for a bit for a summer since I moved out of the dorms and both places being dusty as hell

[fleet wraith]

Ah fair enough

[glass vault]

I think I cleaned it around September last now that I think about it. But man cleaning fan blades suck

[fleet wraith]

Yeah it does

[grizzled drift]

Especially the ones on your GPU

[fleet wraith]

I mainly just have to do my filters occasionally because I own multiple cats

[grizzled drift]

I take my GPU apart to clean it

[glass vault]

My fingers are too fat. To get the the part of the blade that has it. Surprisingly my GPU is usually clean looking brand new.

[fleet wraith]

Wait you are taking the shroud off to get the fans?

[grizzled drift]

Yeah

[fleet wraith]

I am way too lazy for that

I just use an alcohol wipe whenever it gets bad

[glass vault]

Or do the power move. Good old out of sight. Out of mind

[grizzled drift]

OCD sucks sometimes

[glass vault]

True

[flat brook]

Ducted 140s are really nice for GPU temps, even though my H5 only has one, it cuts a solid 8-12C off my GPU package temp

[fleet wraith]

I have 3x 140 on front intake, the bottom two are 120s and the exhaust on the back is a 140. The radiator on top is set for exhaust and is 3 140s

It generally stays nice and quiet

[glass vault]

At some point I gotta solder new fans on my netapp ds4246 PSUs make them more quiet. Delta fans are nice until you are near it

[fleet wraith]

PSU is in silent mode on mine

[glass vault]

Netapp gear are for server racks. 10k rpm fans to cool off all 24hdds it's loud 😔

[fleet wraith]

I'm running the c1500 which has really nice voltage controls and has titanium efficiency which is great for lower loads

[glass vault]

I got a Corsair rm1000x and RM 1000e for my second build not a single problem with these bad boys. If I do need a upgrade for a PSU I'm probably gonna get a seasonic titanium PSU but I doubt that for a long time

[grizzled drift]

https://imgur.com/a/gqMpPJ6 picture of my gpu when I took it apart recently, if you ever cared to see lol

[fleet wraith]

Ooh that's pretty

[glass vault]

I'm not ballsy enough to touch the due of a 500+ GPU did it to my old 1060 and a 1080 but my 3080ti hell nah

[grizzled drift]

Did you mess it up before somehow ?

[glass vault]

Nope. Just too valuable for me to want to risk it yet

[grizzled drift]

Ah yeah fair enough, no issue with that

[glass vault]

Probably should do it for my evga cards I got on display tho

[grizzled drift]

Yeah those are sick

[glass vault]

I almost had a 980ti evga I think it was a classified one. But it got sold before I could snag it

I believe they all still work. Haven't tried them yet. Trying to get older cards since they are like 10$ on goodwill or facebook. Then wait for rtx cards to come down in price

[cedar ibex]

is anyone here getting a patch for the 3rd time today or is it just me...

[nocturne tundra]

I think AMD smart access memory is honestly the biggest improvement i’ve made to my experience, i highly suggest anyone with a full amd set up to turn it on

[eager sandal]

Smart Access helps me too, for about two minutes until the system crawls to a standstill. But that isn't its fault.

[glass vault]

Opened up the 770 they have a metal mid plate and only exposing the power delivery which is dope as hell

[high quarry]

I wish we had more of that now, bending is still an issue on big cards

Well, it was more of an issue on the 3000 series where the die was massive

[glass vault]

Weirdly this card has thermal pads on the back of vram chips where there is no chips must be universal for the higher class models

[agile harbor]

Probably a metal backplate too

Still worth trying to sink some heat away, even through the PCB

[glass vault]

Yep but there is no vram where the pads are

[digital haven]

Any ideas why HDR would be tanking my frame rate? I’ve never noticed it to have any noticeable performance impact in any other game.

[high quarry]

it likely forces the SceneColorFormat to 64bit float

[agile harbor]

Hm, in game HDR? First half of my playthrough I was doing inverse tonemapping with RTX HDR, then Special K, but now i'm just using in game HDR passed through RenoDX and I've not noticed a difference between them performance wise. Then again I haven't run without HDR so..

[glass vault]

I wish backplates were standard for all gpus

[high quarry]

HDR only really majorly impacts performance when you are very bandwidth limited.

[agile harbor]

I had the absolute cheapest of cheap 2080 Supers. XC3 Black gaming, 2-slot, bare rear PCB.

[glass vault]

Its cool to see rtx 2080s being the same price as 1080tis

[digital haven]

I can’t imagine why I would be bandwidth limited.

[agile harbor]

Saying a lot for 1080Ti's

[glass vault]

True but decent hardware RT is getting cheaper than I thought

Still probably better to get a 4060 than a 2080 because of dlss 3 and better version of RT cores

[agile harbor]

TBH I hate to even think of a 4060 as something you'd even want to attempt RT on

though Nvidia has no trouble selling people on it that way

[glass vault]

The 4060 is on par with the 2080 surprisingly

[agile harbor]

Yeah if we use Tom's RT specific chart, they're inline for managing to hit the 60fps target for 1080p Medium with RT

but, at that point if you're already at 1080p Medium I feel like enabling RT is pointless

[fleet wraith]

Yeah my 3090 and my 4090 are FE so I'm not messing with those shrouds

Tbh, I'm using the engine.ini tweaks to supposedly do hardware lumen. I don't know if it's placebo or not but it does seem to run better

[high quarry]

would still get beat by an AMD 6800, pitty theres not many of those about anymore.

[agile harbor]

Cold February in 2021 when 3090FE arrived, still one of the most impressive PC hardware parts I've unboxed. The weight, fit and finish and the fact that it was ice cold from sitting outside in the box lol.

[high quarry]

At least not at good enough prices: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-speedster-swft-319-16gb-gddr6-ray-tracing-graphics-card-rdna2-3840-streams-210

[glass vault]

The Fe looks good but man are they a pain in the ass to find

[fleet wraith]

Yeah it was for me too though I got it at launch. Then I got the 4090 at launch and it's even sturdier lmao

[fleet wraith]

Yeah I got lucky on both on launch day. Hoping to go 3/3 with the 5090

[glass vault]

You jinxed yourself

[agile harbor]

My 4090 TUF OC isn't as impressive but damn, its huge.

[fleet wraith]

I jinxed myself before the 4090 so this is just me following a pattern that clearly works

[glass vault]

Lmao. I am just gonna try my hardest to find any 5090 close to msrp

[agile harbor]

The great 2020/2021 GPU rush scarred me. I don't want to head back into those stock discords.

[glass vault]

Never got that desperate.

But man it was rought time did the Newegg shuffle for months

[agile harbor]

lol, I entered that thing every single day and never got picked once.

[glass vault]

I did for a 3070

[agile harbor]

I scored 3 3080's (for friends) and my 3090 just jumping right on Best Buy when they went live with stock.

I can't remember it was either Tuesdays or Thursdays

and you better have been sitting right at your PC ready to F5 when the notifications came in

5 minutes and they were gone, if that

[chilly plinth]

nice new update frame drops from 90fps on fck 25-30fps

yey let's play ....... so nice and funny.....

[late ferry]

gebui. has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vapid wigeon]

Wwaaaaaaaaait so a lot of people, you included, have been using RTX HDR and wonder why there's dips and bs in the FPS? LOL

Use ACTUAL HDR

I get it if the monitor its self isn't capable but if it is and you're running software sided HDR only through "emulation" so to speak via RTX.. yeah.. the game will run like balls.

I'd imagine a lot of people are doing this bs unknowingly or dont care then blame GSC lmao

[snow torrent]

tbh i experience the same... game was runnning absolutely fine too and now its a stutterfest

[agile harbor]

I don’t think it’s possible to have a level headed, rational conversation with you. Now you’re just reading things incorrectly and again jumping to incorrect conclusions.

I never said any of that and it’s clear you’re misinformed with how HDR works in games.

[vapid wigeon]

YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID RTX HDR and other means of HDR being implemented.

[glass vault]

Not every game has perfect HDR built in. I'm not even sure how much rtx HDR has on effect performance wise

[chilly plinth]

bruh...in that condition i go to play stalker gamma

[vapid wigeon]

RTX HDR is literally a filter being ran over the game its self. And people wonder why the game dips.

[glass vault]

Seems the high point being a 10% loss in performance

[agile harbor]

Nothing about “dips and bs”.

[chilly plinth]

.... i know is work and peace, sorry boy's but we pass all ready a month and the game have problem, i sad oki i have a low end pc, let's upgrade them new gpu, cpu, ram....

[vapid wigeon]

Hey if ya cant display proper HDR and gotta use filters do you lmao

[high quarry]

all RTX HDR does is take the standard range image, and try and fake the actual range into 10bit, mostly by tonemapping

[chilly plinth]

but...no, no, no, no YOU CANT PLAY IT....bruh bruh bruh

[glass vault]

He was comparing specialK HDR version to rtx HDR not to non HDR version

[agile harbor]

Yes, it’s a form of inverse tonemapping just like a game may do in its own. You don’t understand this topic but you’re not willing to learn.

[vapid wigeon]

regardless faking HDR, tone mapping, faking 10 bit.. yada yada

[high quarry]

Its the same concept of how games determine bloom

[vapid wigeon]

Aye, regardless, y'all keep crashing. I'll go enjoy shit. 😂 👌

[glass vault]

Ok?

[vapid wigeon]

🐝 itch

[glass vault]

Not sure why you are so hostile

[agile harbor]

I don’t understand it either.

[glass vault]

Native HDR implementation are really hit or miss on games. See it more of an afterthought still

[chilly plinth]

from curiosity on what specs ** did you play the game and on what fps?

[glass vault]

1440p at 120fps med with 3080ti and 7950x3d. I feel bad for people getting into the pc market and struggling to run the game. The game culture shouldn't be locked to people with alot of money

[glass vault]

You prefer special k or rtx HDR. Not sure which one to use when I get back to my rig

[high quarry]

I was doing bloom and sun rays in 2008 🙂

https://i.imgur.com/GgVIm4c.jpeg

[glass vault]

Peak 2008 gaming

PS2 Lego Star wars the complete saga was the shit

[snow torrent]

what is wrong with you?

[raven void]

anyone getting memory read errors after this last patch or so?

[chilly plinth]

true.... the gaming become easy just a bussines for company, the games are not made for fun and enterarmiment mean to can be acessiable of evryboady.... mean i pay oki but..already i dont wanan invest other money in that industry what are just staying in place

[high quarry]

We were making a game engine with visual programming before it was a thing, with 1 click deploy to xbox console...

Actually all the way back in 2005..

This was pong, written in a shader, with visual programming controlling the DirectX calls

https://i.imgur.com/E9KZ8nh.jpeg

[agile harbor]

Driving but I can talk your ear off about this later

[glass vault]

I like how some indie Devs rather you pirate the game and pay when you can. Then to not enjoy their art.

[high quarry]

lol, my 2005 desktop, winamp and yahoo messenger 😄

https://i.imgur.com/QxQavm0.jpeg

[flat brook]

Took you long enough

[late ferry]

thelocalukrainian has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glass vault]

Just say bitchh

[flat brook]

Shame he left though, was hoping he’d go on another rant on how anything performance issue related is solely an Nvidia thing

(Nvidia has 80+% of the market share, a lot of them are 8GB cards, happens to 8GB AMD cards too)

[mild rover]

is the game playable now

[glass vault]

Oh he left left. Damn

[mild rover]

did they fixed stutters

[uneven portal]

yea but meh

[mild rover]

oh lovely

[glass vault]

Camps still have FPS drops if you get stutters try lowering textures. Worked for me

[mild rover]

cus well my laptop is lagging at some random point and i need to go to the menu for 5 secs to get it playable

[glass vault]

What's in the laptop?

[mild rover]

4060 8gb, 32gb ddr5 5600mhz, ryzen 7 7840HS

[glass vault]

It should be good at 1080 med

[mild rover]

exactly how i wanted to play

[flat brook]

If you can’t beat ‘em, leave em right?

[tawny thicket]

MUHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHAUHAUHAUHAUAHAUUAHAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[flat brook]

That aside, wrong channel to think screaming nonsense louder is gonna make people listen

[flat brook]

I immediately believe you and will continue to delete system 32

[glass vault]

Apparently could not handle being other people having different opinions on hdr

[tawny thicket]

wait he like actually LEFT the SERVER?

[flat brook]

Yes

[tawny thicket]

BRUH

[glass vault]

If I'm wrong I rather learn from it

[flat brook]

^

[peak girder]

Hey, is an i7-14700F enough to run STALKER 2?

[tawny thicket]

YES

[opaque moat]

yes

[peak girder]

Then why the hell are people trashing me for it in general-

[tawny thicket]

uhhhhhhh

[glass vault]

Autism idk

[peak girder]

Nevermind that. I'm asking because I'm still having heavy FPS drops in Zalyssia and I cannot figure out why.

[flat brook]

It is, any issues you have are being caused by something else than the CPU.

My 13700K doesn’t choke in any of the larger settlements, so unless you’re running a 4090, it should be good

[opaque moat]

because thats what they do

[tawny thicket]

what? why would they.......

[peak girder]

Hmm. Might be my settings. I had them on Epic since it was stable 60fps everywhere else.

[tawny thicket]

now i be curious

[glass vault]

Autism because AMD better because x3d maybe either way 14700f is still a nice cpu

[flat brook]

Turn hair to medium, that one seems to be particularly intensive. I have mine set to high, so high might also work for you

[peak girder]

...out of everything, it's the HAIR setting?

[flat brook]

It might be the hair setting as you’re experiencing it when a lot of NPCs are around

[late ferry]

thelocalukrainian has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[peak girder]

Yeah, makes sense. Let me get the game back up, set all the presets to High, then see what happens.

[glass vault]

There is a god damn hair setting

[tawny thicket]

eh,lost interest

[peak girder]

Granted, it's gonna take a bit because I have to reinstall, but I'll let you know if it works.

Should have asked here before I uninstalled TBF. I asked if anyone else had the same issues in general and I got 😂 emoted.

[opaque moat]

ever reinstall windows twice in 1 day?with full wipe...im glad its faster now than it used to be back in the day

[flat brook]

I have Textures, objects, materials, distance, clouds and sky all set to epic, the rest to high. DLAA + FG. Feel free to try that out and see how she runs

[flat brook]

That’s general, we’re usually the more civilized folks, excluding the oddball screamers and yappers from time to time

[glass vault]

Try it on a pc with usb 1.0 3 days later

[peak girder]

It'll take a bit, but I have decent internet speed even when playing games so I shouldn't take too long. Maybe two hours at worst.

then I have to restart the save file and get to Zalyssia, but I can just run through all of that

[snow torrent]

BTW i wish you all nice holidays!

[glass vault]

Merry Christmas to the zone

[opaque moat]

yesterday i had an Armoury crate moment so i re-wiped because sound was cutting...sonic companion is trash AF

everything on fleek today

[flat brook]

Epic embed fail incoming, but just click on the link anyway ;

https://tenor.com/view/merry-chrysler-merry-chrismun-merry-crisis-gif-11871149363034811506

[glass vault]

Never want to use any Asus software again. Why does their stupid sound software break my 3d printing software

[soft knot]

Anus software has a gnack for that, had the same issue when I used a 3d printer

[flat brook]

Clearly you are trying to print sounds. Silly you

[tawny thicket]

i'm interested again

[opaque moat]

because its 👨‍🦽

[glass vault]

Even bambu lab knew it creates conflict yet it won't be fixed it's insane. Then I broke western digitals software. Found out their dashboard doesn't work on windows 11 AMD platforms

[high quarry]

Epic quality hair adds sky ambient occlusion with double the MSAA and voxelization

[tawny thicket]

we sure are 😉😉😉😉

[high quarry]

High halfs the voxelization detail and turns off sky AO

Medium turns off voxelization and again halfs the MSAA

[flat brook]

I hope you stub your toe against a door post because you are clearly wrong about how HDR works

[glass vault]

This is the tech geek & tech autism corner

[high quarry]

'tism'isms

[flat brook]

I just made a 25 Liter V16 engine and slapped it into a limousine

Someone stop me please

[tawny thicket]

😀🙂😕😐🫤😕🙁☹️😣😖😖😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💀☠️👻👻👻

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/ucK1ZjP

Things are going to implode today

[high quarry]

If you wanted an example of how good Nanite can be, check the shadow detail from the edges of this bunker, the jaggedness is geometry not low res shadows: https://i.imgur.com/UEkduiH.jpeg

[glass vault]

I'm really trying to play Skylanders

[snow torrent]

have you guys turned dynamic music on?

[spice timber]

I think I fixed my PC crashing. A cable wasn`t plugged into the motherboard all the way in like 1-2 mms and I pushed it all the way in. After that, it did not give me any crashes. The cable is a PSU/ power supply cable btw 12 V one I think

[spare coral]

it happens more than what you think lol
lots of people and even myself had that problem

😭

[snow torrent]

had a not fully pluged in Power cable for the PC. Think i pulled it out a little when i moved my table. Dont know for how long that wasnt pluged in correctly but i had a baaaaad feeling turning the pc on after it crashed because i touched it by accident

[spare coral]

Yeah same

[snow torrent]

do you guys have the same problem, that when you finally at a new awesome location or building in the game it is night? 😄

its always dark when im at cool locations

[fleet wraith]

Yeah I'm excited for them to take another pass on day/night cycles eventually

[snow torrent]

its more often Night then it is day or am i trippin?

[spare coral]

I feel like days are too short cause its always dark when i go to explore

[hard juniper]

classic

[hard juniper]

3x day length mod

[snow torrent]

is it a thing????

[hard juniper]

yes it's one of the most popular mods

[snow torrent]

holy shit im installing directly

[hard juniper]

always check nexus for mods that can solve issues you have

[snow torrent]

thanks!!!

[peak girder]

Realistic Day Length mod where it takes 12 hours IRL to get to night.

[agile harbor]

So, i'm at the point right now where I'm playing with all the options. I've really only gotten "into" Special K recently in Stalker 2 and now Indiana Jones. What I like about SK is the expansive tuning controls. All the knobs and buttons exposed to tweak and its helping with learning. (been also living in the HDR Den discord). So I started with RTX HDR, then into SK doing the HDR but now I actually experimenting with native HDR + RenoDX that completely rewrites the HDR pipline for the game and is confiured as an add-on through ReShade. (https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/711?tab=description)

What I've found following the dedicated threads for these two games in that discord is each game works a little differently and one option isn't always "the best" for another game.

[tawny thicket]

#realistic

[agile harbor]

Also, I see the troublemaker is gone.

oh well

[tawny thicket]

trouble maker?

[agile harbor]

not important

[tawny thicket]

i know who

[flat brook]

Najdyxheve that’s not how HDR works jehcudhevdidhehe you’re losing performance majdhxhevegdhe!!!!!1!1!1!1!1

[agile harbor]

ugh

[tawny thicket]

FS FG WONT GIVE MUCH FPS AT 4K

[high quarry]

hdr, highly deflective rhetoric

[flat brook]

Status update ;

Back right wheel has exploded, differential has imploded, and my pistons are somewhere in the stratosphere.

But, new top speed, 453 miles per hour

[flat brook]

THE 3090 SUCKS!1!1!1!

[agile harbor]

That one was specifically just weird

[flat brook]

Everyone knows that when the 4090 launched, all 3090s immediately stopped working completely and can now only run minesweeper at 24FPS

[tawny thicket]

i dont remember

Though for me the weirdest was when he claimed that FS FG looks worse than AFMF

[tawny thicket]

TBH that probably happened during my hiatus

Imagine if he returned right about now

[fleet wraith]

Yes this is why I upgraded

Not brain problems

[tawny thicket]

Or he didn't actually quit

[agile harbor]

All I did for a while when I got this C2 was play in HDR but screenshots, taking them and sharing them was always a problem. Searched for a while here and there for ways to convert them after the fact and that stuff exists, but tonemapping to SDR PNG's always resulted in very boring and flat images so sharing them on discord never really conveyed the full effect.

Of course, without everyone having a display that can really do HDR well, you're never going to be able to share exactly what you're seeing but In comes discovering Special K and its HDR PNG's that are compatible with Discord. https://i.imgur.com/NmoeTim.png

[snow torrent]

turned on HDR but its still greyed out in the options menu. Am i dumb?

[agile harbor]

by default, stalker requires the game to be in fullscreen exclusive mode to enable the in game HDR.

[snow torrent]

ah man, tank you ♥

[tawny thicket]

I didn't think that would win

[snow torrent]

installed the even longer days mod. So, the nights are also longer ? 😄

[wintry needle]

nah - when the sun sets, it starts a mad dash around the planet so it can come up on the other side sooner, then slows down to a crawl so the day can be longer 👀

[snow torrent]

i thought an answer like this 😄

[grizzled drift]

Always struggled sharing images in HDR too cause in Win11 it over-exposes the hell out of screenshots

[peak girder]

Just got to Zalyssia again; the preset change helped tremendously. Something on one of the Epic settings was the issue, as I'm not even getting frame drops now.

[fickle heath]

Hey guys, trying to load Stalker 2.. Was able to play for 4 hours first time booting now i cant seem to get past the compiling shaders boss, its taken me 20+ tries so far, any tips?

[agile harbor]

So the issue was more specifically if you're using the Snipping tool, the tonemapping was all broken. Only recently did they add a fix in the settings to address it, however its still not perfect. I only use it in games in a pinch, preferably never. https://i.imgur.com/GWI6hXv.png

[spare coral]

Most likely hair lol

[glass vault]

Just curious for experience just in ease of use rtx HDR or special k not being as buggy and just easy to get a decent experience.

[agile harbor]

If HDR isn't native to the game then RTX HDR does exactly what it says it does. Gives you a few basic sliders in the Nvidia app too, for sure.

[flat brook]

Must be hair

[agile harbor]

SK is for when you really wanna tinker

Though HDR for games is just one of the many things SK does so you can use it no matter what HDR implementation you choose.

[glass vault]

Thanks for the information tho gonna have to decide after trying both it seems

[agile harbor]

RTX HDR is doing the same thing AutoHDR built into Windows does, downside is you get no controls.

I should say, benefit of RTX HDR or windows AutoHDR is they'll work just fine with multiplayer games. SK, not so much.

[wintry needle]

whoa, OK, I got my first CTD in ages

Rostok, of course...

[grizzled drift]

Ah thanks for this, didn't know about it but yeah still not perfect

[agile harbor]

Damn. https://youtu.be/Ty6hDR2UskM

[flat brook]

Fuck- dude.

Dude is a legend, sad he’s gone. May he rest peacefully

[agile harbor]

Yeah, and too young. RIP.

[deft crest]

This new update broke my game can’t get pass shaders 😐

[dusk brook]

if really cannot, as the "press any key" to skip function isn't even working (doesnt matter what you press it doesnt do anything)
try hard-disable it with mod instead (if you on pc)
still... remove all your mod and try load the game FIRST, as update always broke mods, especially ones that basically redownload the whole game 🤣

[daring elm]

Yup came here for this

[flint spoke]

this is odd as dx12 doesn't have actual full screen. its all windowed

[fickle heath]

so am I the only person not able to even start stalker 2? shader compiling crash several dozen times

[agile harbor]

It appears to function just as the borderless windowed mode so its not clear what the difference is in this instance under the hood

[deft crest]

If you have scroll up you’ll see we aren’t the only ones smh

[flint spoke]

yeah its strange.

[fickle heath]

Scrolled up a hot minute and didn't see one mention of it.

[deft crest]

[agile harbor]

probably the most discussed topic since 1.1 on thursday

[deft crest]

1.1 was fine for me but now 1.3 I got same issue as everyone.

[agile harbor]

I had one instance of it on Thursday, did the Nvidia shader cache dance and its been fine since

[fickle heath]

My bad, didnt feel like reading 1000+ messages until I found it. Thought this server would be a tad more lively.

[deft crest]

I’m running amd smg

[deft crest]

Expected

[agile harbor]

it is, at times

[fickle heath]

Kind of dumb this is even crashing, I have a top tier pc. Literally just wanting to play the game while im on holiday from work.

Tried the lower fps, battery saving option, cache clear. Its getting to where I might shelf it for another patch

[agile harbor]

of course if you want to play now, always the option of wiping the game from your system entirely, including the S2 folder in AppData (might want to backup your saves first even though steam cloud should pull them down again)

Also AMD should at least give this a go https://i.imgur.com/dSsQjfM.png

[fickle heath]

Thanks, all AMD. Trying this and just updated gpu drivers

[fickle heath]

Was able to get in. Not sure if those helped but might be worth a try for anyone else with issues

[flint perch]

seems like the game still have memory leaks

even though the game is performing better now

[tawny thicket]

is it just me or does FSR actually look worse on NVIDIA cards? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_tUqOsd-Wk&t=12s

[dusk brook]

FSR looks worst on everything

[tawny thicket]

though i guess he compared XeSS ultra quality while i compared quality

[tawny thicket]

i *highly disagree but i do know that this is mostly a tinfoil hat conspiracy

i think FSR looks the best if you dont have DLSS

[flint spoke]

i feel like it depends what type of artifacting bothers you the most.

[tawny thicket]

(at least in Stalker 2)

[flint spoke]

like for example with framegen, I hate dlss framegen, I can't see a visual difference and the input latency is much worse.

but other people will be like 'nah dlss framegen is way better' (idk what they're talking about) so its prob somewhat subjective

[tawny thicket]

yeah though from what i've seen FSR's biggest weakness is far away fine detail

[tawny thicket]

DL-FG is better than what? FS-FG?

(latency is subjective)

[flint spoke]

yeah people say that

but thats not been my experience at all, in fact I was pretty dissapointed when I tested dlssfg

[tawny thicket]

i think that is fairly accurate

when at lower framerates

at least visually

[flint spoke]

latency is like 3ms worse for, for what I'm not sure. I can't see a difference just playing.

if I have to try to see a difference then like, nah, not worth it.

[tawny thicket]

i can kind of feel* a difference

[flint spoke]

i can feel the latency difference between the two really easily

but otherwise, im sure dlssfg looks better, but I can't tell so its not worth it for me

[tawny thicket]

though that is going from 40-50fps to 70-85fps

[flint spoke]

maybe dlssfg is worth using if you're playing with uncapped or high capped fps, but most places don't seem to drop my fps lower than like 70, and anywhere that does runs terrible no matter what I do so. /shrugs/

[tawny thicket]

DL-FG looks better on anything that doesnt give motion vectors to FS-FG

(eg:reflections,holo scopes,laser pointers,etc)

[tawny thicket]

i see

though what GPU do you have?

[flint spoke]

4070 super but the fps issues are cpu

[tawny thicket]

in the place that run terrible?

[flint spoke]

places like rostok shit on a 5800x3d

[tawny thicket]

you'd need a 9800X3D

[flint spoke]

yeah lol

[tawny thicket]

so would i 😀

[flint spoke]

there are some tests that show disabling SMT actually helps for this game

between mods, engine.ini, disabling smt, overclocking my ram to get to 3600 infinity fabric, it runs way better than it used to

but like I still question why the hell somewhere like rostok has to run that badly...

yaniv station and even red forest used to run like shit for me but those run good now

[tawny thicket]

(unrelated) #📸┃screenshots_and_videos

[tawny thicket]

i dont feel like tinkering with that

but i'm mostly happy with my perf in settlements

50~ in settlements

and if i slap some FG on then i'm over my monitors refresh rate

[flint spoke]

yaniv station used to drop me to like 55 fps and now its like 70+fps there

i dont even like 60fps really

[stone echo]

I think it is a memory issue due to the sheer number of NPCs in the area. I could be wrong, but I noticed memory leaking tends to happen when a large number of NPCs end up in the same area. It has to do with how the engine is handling the inventories.

[analog dock]

Yeah basically gotta quit out every 4 hours. The memory leak has added about 4GB of RAM to both the GPU and CPU memory usage

[queen goblet]

Another memory leak whats happening?

[flint spoke]

i mean perf outside the mem leak in general. i don't think its npcs, i think its just geometry, maybe lights. If I had to guess its why 5.2-5.5 were made and we're on a modified 5.1 lol

[queen goblet]

Oh wait that was 55 min ago mb

[flint spoke]

if you boot up in debug and disable ai its still the same. npc geometry does matter but i dont think thats the only issue

[naive rose]

Quick question, can a 1070 GTX have any hopes of running stalker 2. Looking to pick it up since it released and I don't think I have the necessary specifications.

16 gb of ram
Intel core i7
Nividia 1070 GTX

[analog dock]

System using about 8.5GB of VRAM and 20GB of System RAM, after a few hours of play its sitting on about 13GB of VRAM and 26GB of System RAM

[flint spoke]

^ its going to be super blurry cause you'll be playing 1080p with upscaling so it'd be like playing at like 720p upscaled

[naive rose]

I don't mind, I need to know how much FPS I can get on average with this

Looking pretty don't mean jack until you get jumped by a chimera or a pack of blind dogs

[flint spoke]

the specific cpu matters

you might be able to get like 60 out in the open but settlements will be bad if I had to guess

i would look at the cpu benchmarks for the game and try to compare with what you have

you could always try it and refund tho gotta be mindful of the refund window

depending on which i7 you have it could be worse than that

[naive rose]

Yeaaah, that's kinda the issue I ran into. Been looking forward for stalker 2 since the trilogy

[flint spoke]

can pascal even do framegen? i can't remember. this game basically needs framegen imo

tho i know some people don't use it out of preference now that I think about it

[naive rose]

Guess I'll wait for the patches next year before I can pick it up. Just let the devs cook on the optimisation

[flint basin]

What is smt?

[flint basin]

So this game doesn't have RAM trash collection deleting? I miss Minecraft java settings xD

[high quarry]

The people who have a bad experience with framegen are mostly those who dont have a system powerful enough to have a sufficient base frame rate for frame gen.
The minimum is 60, but thats still not a great experience, you really want 70+

I try to play at 160fps+ so that there is no obvious input lag

[flint basin]

@high quarry could u help?

[high quarry]

simultaneous multithreading

i.e 2 threads per core

[flint basin]

Ye ye

[high quarry]

Intel e-cores dont have it, and neither do the new Core Ultra P cores

[flint basin]

Now i understand

Okey, but also multi core is bad for stalker or only multithreading

[high quarry]

neither

I have seen CPU usage climb above 50%

[flint basin]

I think multicore processors are worse in most games

Cuz many games are single core and i have seen same gen i5 work better than my i7

[high quarry]

its not the fault of multiple threads, its a resource budgeting issue.
Power for frequency on the core (droop), and cache sharing across threads

On Intel its only an issue when e-cores are involved, because they are old tech, and slow

[hearty pollen]

Depending on generation, it could be a HT issue. can occasionally tank some performance in niche situations

[high quarry]

a core with 1 thread can do 5ghz, on 2 threads of similar workload, it might only do 4.8, as an example.

[flint basin]

So should i try disable fiction threads on my i7 4th gen

[high quarry]

depends on the workload, and which parts of the core it is using for power draw

[hearty pollen]

Did you mean 14 gen or 4?

[analog dock]

i run the game with a 13700K. CPU usage between 20 and 40%

[hearty pollen]

Same with 7800x3d here

[high quarry]

40% is massive, thats a 24 thread CPU

Mine is mostly at 35%, on 16 threads

[analog dock]

depends on how many NPC's are around i guess. AI from NPC uses more CPU

[high quarry]

Yeh, NPCs will load more cores, generally adds +10-15% on a 16 thread

if you arent already CPU limited, NPCs just being around does not significant lower your fps.

Its when they are close to you when they do, because they are also Nanite'd and will choke your bandwidth.

i.e when there are ~15 NPCs down in zallisya shelter, fps doesnt drop unless I get close: https://i.imgur.com/4PkriTc.jpeg

[hearty pollen]

It kinda does tho? Proximity of settlements tanks fps.

[high quarry]

As a collective yes, but its not because there are NPCs.

[hearty pollen]

ie, CPU usage goes up, and GPU goes down?

[high quarry]

It's because there are more light sources, more concentrated geometry/overdraw etc

[high quarry]

CPU usage goes up slightly, GPU stays at 100%

[hearty pollen]

No, gpu goes down when closing on settlements. to like 85% ish

[high quarry]

Nope, stays 100%, and fps still increases with lower res

[hearty pollen]

I guess thats the power of 9800x3d

[high quarry]

i.e what might be 140fps in a settlement at 1440, will be 180fps at 1080, and then 250, and then 300 etc until hitting CPU limit

Example, Rostok arena, being in this guys face will drop it all the way down to 130:
https://i.imgur.com/7OqFJky.jpeg

but lower res to beat the bandwidth choke, and its 170fps again
https://i.imgur.com/nvEDKAU.jpeg

but its nothing to do with NPCs being in the area, peek in on ragman, and its 240fps, without even being close to CPU stressed
https://i.imgur.com/rpkb38x.jpeg

Same at malachite, only 4 NPCs on screen, but another 5 behind me, and another 10 inside: https://i.imgur.com/UxWBFul.jpeg

That will still scale to 300fps

[high quarry]

Only 10% faster than 7800x3D
20% in some games.

[toxic lance]

@high quarry What is the graphics configuration?
FG on/off?

[high quarry]

on

[toxic lance]

graphic low, medium, high?

[high quarry]

mixed

[toxic lance]

interesting

[high quarry]

The point is, you can play at 1080, lower settings, FG at 200fps+, 720 at 300fps+
You just wouldn't, because you can play 1440p with balanced setting at 160.

[toxic lance]

true

[high quarry]

I would much rather play like this: https://i.imgur.com/7UXTYA3.jpeg
Than this: https://i.imgur.com/W8wy97P.jpeg

[toxic lance]

I'll see if I can find a video showing the difference between low and maximum for each graphics option and how much this affects the game's performance.

I read on a website that the Nvidia App was reducing the game's performance by up to 15% and today Nvidia released an update correcting this, I'll test it to see if it's true.

[high quarry]

It was to do with new nvidia app and its overlay

[grizzled drift]

It’s not the Nvidia app itself, it has to do with the game and photo filters which can just be turned off and problem solved

[toxic lance]

true, I found an engine.ini on Nexus Mods that made my game look like the second image you sent and I almost freaked out because the game looked so ugly 😂

[grizzled drift]

No performance loss after

[high quarry]

Yeh, you can turn off a lot of things with engine.ini lines, the trick is finding a balance

This is my balance, on a $500 GPU
https://i.imgur.com/wUVvD3i.jpeg

Or what was $500 at the time, its prob hard to find at that price now

[toxic lance]

hmm... So that explains everything...

[high quarry]

its 470 GBP / 520 USD, by Amazon pricing

[toxic lance]

The game is still beautiful. How many FPS did you gain? Can you tell me?

[high quarry]

vs Epic native?

[toxic lance]

yes

[grizzled drift]

If I don't use your Insane Preset + tweaks I could get FPS like that lol

[high quarry]

Epic native would be mostly 90-120 (I always have FG on)

so +70-90

[grizzled drift]

basically if I run no engine ini at all I get that fps on my setup

[toxic lance]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-7318718906883567382

[high quarry]

Yep, +75% larger GPU 🙂

[grizzled drift]

yeah but since we cranked the settings on mine, I'm getting around 100-110

[toxic lance]

High-end PC?

[high quarry]

and 3.5x times the price, pre availabilty.
Its worse now, more like 5x as 4090 stock dwindles.

[grizzled drift]

with just in-game Epic DLAA FG I get around 140+ but with the cranked engine ini it's around 100 most of the time

[high quarry]

If we look at techpowerup 7800xt review.
4090 is 75% faster
If we look at GPU database die size
4090 is 75% bigger
If we look at gaming power draw
4090 is 71% more (NVIDIA ADA is more effecient than RDNA 3)

In terms of cost efficiency, its like a 4090 Costing $1k max (accounting for extra VRAM)

Its how it used to be, with only the Titans being more.

[toxic lance]

@high quarry your engine.ini, do you mind sharing?

[high quarry]

https://gist.github.com/ColesyM/4c9f699d65ab25e12e058b2db5b470b1

This was the last shot I took on that profile:
https://i.imgur.com/LrJJJWd.jpeg

and this was the Epic native comparison
https://i.imgur.com/o4JZKXP.jpeg

[toxic lance]

I believe your GPU has more than 8 GB of VRAM, mine only has 8 GB, do I need to change any line in the engine.ini code? Like those lines about the amount of VRAM and etc. (I don't know how to explain it, I don't know about it.)

[high quarry]

That profile is not specifically for 8GB, I have 16GB

It has rather high texture, shadow and global illumination settings

[chilly plinth]

HELP

from 80-90 fps with ryzen 2600+6750 xt now after the last update i have 30-40 fps with sam seting ...

[grizzled drift]

r.Streaming.PoolSize=9216 ;Only for 16GB VRAM. If you have 24GB use 18432, for 12GB use 9216, for 11GB use 8192, for 10GB use 7168, for 8GB use 6144, for 6GB use 5120, for 4GB use 4096

[high quarry]

Should already be 3072 in that profile, to cover all

[toxic lance]

Should the graphics options be set to epic? Or should they stay the way I left them?

[high quarry]

Shouldn't matter, I just left at Epic, this overrides them

I then use FSR AA so it picks up the sharpening config

If you want to generate new config on your own more applicable to 8GB, you can try my settings generator at the top of the pinned messages.

[toxic lance]

Where is this message? Here on discord?

[grizzled drift]

https://github.com/ColesyM/S2SettingsGenerator

[toxic lance]

ty

[grizzled drift]

np

[flint basin]

4

i use i7 4930k. its not bad, i checked my gpu, pu is 100% but vram only 70%

eee, anybody has issue that stalker is not seeing the keyboard

[hearty pollen]

Damn, a 2011 survivor. Albeit, that cpu isn't half shabby nowadays, when you said 4 gen I assumed a 4690k or whatever it's called.

[high quarry]

4930k should be a little similar to a ryzen 2600

[toxic lance]

@high quarry A sincere question. Is it difficult to add an option in your app that translates to the desired language of the person you choose?

like, pt-br, en (it already is, but I'm giving an example) and etc.

I think something went wrong when editing the .ini in the generator 😅
https://i.imgur.com/94gB7JF.png

[agile harbor]

Uber Potato mode

[toxic lance]

I used the "high" option

but I changed some things in the boxes, maybe that affected the textures 😅

[high quarry]

The preset changes all the options below
if you then change them further, you are overriding what the preset set

[opal moss]

So, not exactly PC specs but technical advice is needed...
I removed the paks folder that Vortex made, so i can finally launch the game through steam...
Now Steam wants to download the whole game again after i wanted to check the local files integrity... it's literally a missing and mostly empty folder...

like... wtf steam?

[flat brook]

This is less Steam’s fault and more how GSC seems to utilize Steam’s Pipeline, I’d assume it’s just scanning the entire installation and downloading as it goes, but I’ve been proven wrong on that before

[opal moss]

holy fuck.... 1D:3H:27M
Okay, see you stalkers in the zone next year XD

[opal moss]

Okay, i see now, thanks for the correctin pal 🙂

shouldn't i just re download the whole game at this point?

[soft stone]

I'd say just let that run imo, is it going at the speed of a download?

[opal moss]

yes

[soft stone]

i guess it wouldn't make too much of a difference between that and a full redownload

[opal moss]

well, somewhat faster, but my ping in online games dies during that

[soft stone]

my ping is always dead from this decade old router 😭

[opal moss]

F

well yeah, but the download doesn't help either

[hearty pollen]

You could probably limit it to ~90% of your current max speed, should fix the ping unless you got a trash router

[hearty pollen]

Bruh, a decent router isn't too expensive and 100% a worthwhile investment. Unless you're talking about a multimodem, but those can typically be bridged

[agile harbor]

Also if this is through wifi and not wired, all bets are off.

[soft stone]

I get that but I live in backwoods rural Appalachia, the choices of ISPs here are in the single digits and it is all cable

[hearty pollen]

Eh, typically room for improvement, but a big factor is reception. The worse it is, the worse overall performance for everyone.

[soft stone]

Soon as I do get out though, I'm getting fiber

[hearty pollen]

Well, that doesn't impact your router choice? I mean, bridging the multimodem?

I assume you're sitting on old copper/coax. Which technically isn't the worst ever, depending on how far away you're from the central. Considering it's Appalachia, I guess it could be aussie isp experience...

[soft stone]

You're not wrong, if I feel too bothered about the one currently installed I'll look into a newer one

Running wifi 4 which isn't that terrible either

[agile harbor]

So wifi, and its wifi4. Yeah that's never going to be great.

802.11n, a product of 2009 lol

[grizzled drift]

Some good stuff right there

[soft stone]

That's Comcast for me

Not everyone can keep the router in the same room as the PC, so I have to stick with wifi for now

[agile harbor]

well, not really. Comcast hasn't offered equipment that old in at least a decade. You should call them.

[hollow kettle]

I live in rural Indiana and I was able to get T-Mobile home Internet. Runs off their 5G towers. Wired in with Ethernet I get about 300-500mbps download 5-10 upload 20-60 ping (all varies on time of day. Usually it’s very fast) all for $60 a month. Should see if there is something similar in your area

Only other options was satellite Internet for hundreds of dollars a month

[soft stone]

That's pretty good. I'm in TN myself, what I got currently isn't a bad price but it's the bare minimum for internet connection these days. I live relatively close to NC where people were getting Starlink set up and thought about trying that

[hollow kettle]

I have heard about starlink. Tbh I didn’t do a ton of research on isp before I got T-Mobile lol called a handful of places. But I am seriously pleasantly surprised with how good T-Mobile Internet is for the price.

[soft stone]

Even 300 mbps sounds like a godsend to me, and for that price it's not bad at all

[hollow kettle]

Ofc it might vary depending on how close/far their nearest tower is to you but it’s advertised as 250-500mbps iirc. Idk if it is an option for you but they had a sale going on last I knew. They send you all the stuff by mail and it’s very easy to set up. Idk just something to think about if you need something quick & cheaper

[soft stone]

I'll look into it, thanks! I'll have to see if comcast can set me up with a better router first, dunno if they charge extra for it tho

[glass vault]

Usually they don't but sometimes if you complain enough they upgrade your plan for free lol. Got them to remove a data cap and doubled my speed before

[soft stone]

They've doubled the prices for years on my family, I've learned from my dad to just threaten to cancel lol

[glass vault]

It works so well. Also Comcast just sucks for an isp. Switched to at&t fiber not a single issue and fast at fixing issues for their new fiber lines

[hearty pollen]

To be fair, while old, it's not necessarily bad. Proven itself to be stable and fast enough for most tasks expect heavy downloads and similar. It's more often down to the quality of the WiFi chips itself and antennas, both Client and host side.

[glass vault]

As long has it has gigabit ethernet you won't gain a big improvement if you upgrade.

[soft stone]

I can second this as I've held onto this one for so long. It's a workhorse standard

[flat brook]

9800X3D in stock finally!!!1!1!1!1!1

[soft stone]

Defo switching to AMD the next time I build a pc

[high quarry]

In stock here, for 840 EUR

[opaque moat]

im not jumping ship just yet.., ill wait for their next lineup. intel been on top the game too long

[tawny thicket]

CANT BELIIIIVE

[hearty pollen]

Neither can I, the price is absolutely absurd

[soft stone]

the whole oxidation ordeal with 13th and 14th gen has left a sour taste in my mouth. genuinely believe those gens should be recalled

[tawny thicket]

ever since X3D they really havent been

[opaque moat]

like i said...they been on top of the game for too long...not gonna jump ship yet as i dont have any isues with my cpu

[hearty pollen]

Actually, the 9800x3d is damn cheap here. 6699 nok (Norway) is 567 Euro.

God damn., I might have to consider one...

[tawny thicket]

still a sh*tload more than MSRP

[hearty pollen]

Not here!

[tawny thicket]

what is MSRP there then?

[hearty pollen]

~560 euro

[tawny thicket]

oh, ok

[high quarry]

Launch price here was 545 EUR

[hearty pollen]

Where, if I may ask?

[high quarry]

Romania

[hearty pollen]

Damn, that's kinda expensive

[high quarry]

I got it 10 mins after launch, so I can see what I paid 🙂

Well its now 840 EUR, with a peak of 1K EUR

[manic apex]

so.. the game is not working on AMD rigs anymore? can't get pass the shader loading even i press the skip shader load pop-up. loading screen just won't register any keyboard or mouse actions

[hearty pollen]

Somehow equal to Norway at launch, and significantly higher now. What the f....

[tawny thicket]

clear your shader cache

[manic apex]

did not change anything

[high quarry]

Mine was the same first launch on 1.1.3, shader cache clear fixed it

[tawny thicket]

and you did it through the driver right?

[manic apex]

from adrenalin yes

[tawny thicket]

for me too..

[tawny thicket]

did you have mods installed?

[high quarry]

Although after that I went into safe mode and manually deleted all cache files anyway

[manic apex]

just disabled them just in case but that seemed not be the one causing the issue

[hearty pollen]

There's been several reports on deleting them from adrenaline has less than desirable results. Id suggest you do it manually.

[tawny thicket]

maybe delete you engine.INI file too (if you have one)

[manic apex]

and where's that located?

[hearty pollen]

Appdata/local/stalker 2

[high quarry]

AMD Shader Cache Locations: https://gist.github.com/ColesyM/f4ae33a70a3916643ab0860cdb5ed4ba

[tawny thicket]

appdata-local-stalker2-saved-config-windows

but if you dont know where they are chances are you dont have one

[hearty pollen]

My god, my brain insisted on "temp" instead of appdata. Silly brain!

[manic apex]

aight, I'll try again after manually deleting shader cache

[high quarry]

Keep in mind, outside safe mode, radeon software is prob running, which will have open file handles to those DxCache files, like this:

https://i.imgur.com/yQu3rQe.png

[flat brook]

I just chopped one for 649,-

Might take a week because of the holidays, but it was in stock at the supplier, so shouldn’t take more than two

[high quarry]

There wont be any after xmas

and there wont be any after the GPU announcements first week of Jan
So this was prob the only chance until Feb.

[flat brook]

Agreed, only reason why I jumped on it, even at 650

[glass vault]

I think only the 5060 or the 5060ti will get an announcement later if they don't say it at ces 25

[high quarry]

I expect them to announce dates for at least 5070 and 5080

[glass vault]

5080 might be first

The 5090 the the 70 class

[hearty pollen]

As per usual really. There the typical way right?

[high quarry]

If they have a 5090 in hand to walk out with, they will prob do that last.

either first, or last

[glass vault]

From what rumors are saying the 80 class will be first and the 90 class a few weeks later

[high quarry]

I am talking about announcement, not release dates

[hearty pollen]

I'll admit I'm so tempted for a 5090 but... On 1440p a used 4090 is a significantly better deal, even looking at the future

[glass vault]

Of course they are gonna anouce the 90 class first. No reason not to

Wish the 90 was gonna launch first

[high quarry]

On the 4090 announcement, it was for a release date 3 weeks away

[glass vault]

Want to get my hands on one before my classes kick in. Gonna be tight

[fickle heath]

let it crash until you can get to settings, put fps on 30 then close it, clear shaders, battery on power saving. Then open it and let it load in, you can play on higher fps and with battery on performance but just swap fps back to 30 before you close the game

this combo has been working for me, full AMD rig

[high quarry]

There is no real reason to change power profile, unless your system is unstable.

[fickle heath]

might not need to, but i tried each by itself and it didnt work but altogether it opens the game. Cant explain why, my system is fine with every other game out there.

[summer furnace]

guys i have an i9 14900k and an rtx 4090 and i still cant run this game low settings 720p. can i have help

[mortal pond]

Anyone on Xbox please @ me or dm me not many play on Xbox so I’d like to get to talk to those that do 🙂

[late ferry]

iitssgoose has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grizzled drift]

[fast coral]

merry christmas guys

[grizzled drift]

you too brotha

[tawny thicket]

ya tooo

[tawny thicket]

if so i dont think you have a 4090

[glass vault]

Scammed

[hearty pollen]

I mean, that's the likely explanation, but it could be a fried Intel cpu too. At least a miniscule chance.

[tawny thicket]

if it was then he would just crash

[hearty pollen]

I've seen some having just absolutely horrible performance tho.

[late ferry]

thelocalukrainian has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glass vault]

It's clearly a shittpost

[hearty pollen]

Yeah, obviously but technically speaking it could be a hardware issue. Fun to fiddle with

[coral token]

hi just got hit with shader warmup failed

and now the game crashed on it

and again same error message

[glass vault]

Rip seems the next gen AMD cards won't beat the 7900xt or 7900xtx

[coral token]

Well doesn't seem like will beat even 6800 and 6800xt by much either

But might be better on RT

[tawny thicket]

they should beat the GRE and that is faster than both those cards

[coral token]

Still not by that much overall

[grizzled drift]

https://imgur.com/a/zX1XN7h @high quarry I know you like them dark pics lol

[high quarry]

Slightly faster than GRE, with better RT

[glass vault]

RT is rumoured to be a major overhaul. Just kinda disappointed that they aren't attempting a 80 class fighter

[tawny thicket]

either way i just want a good VALUE

[high quarry]

Thats the part AMD usually fall short. Launch prices.

[glass vault]

TBF they give ok MSRP then they undershoot nvidias pricing afterwards.

[high quarry]

Nobody cares at $599
Its uninteresting at $499
Any lower and it will be praised

[coral token]

I mean I got 6800XT for like 400 euro brand new

[tawny thicket]

i dont care if it can run PT if it costs 1000$

[coral token]

When 7k series launched so I consider it a good deal over my old 5600xt

[tawny thicket]

i would highly disagree

[coral token]

Which just was stop gap after my R9 295x2

[high quarry]

Its not arriving to compete with current cards.. Its for the next 2y

[glass vault]

I like having 90 class to show what will be achieved in the future. Its more of a business focused card for rendering and other jazz rather than gaming

[tawny thicket]

like 500€ is a perfectly acceptable price for something that is faster than the GRE in raster and faster than an XTX in RT + has AI upscaling (and maybe ray recon + AI FG)

[glass vault]

As far as we know. They probably are setting up a 9080 later down the line? There is nothing backing up this claim

[high quarry]

Hopefully, at least to challenge 5070 super tier

[tawny thicket]

aaaannddd?

it should be fine

[glass vault]

Its purely to compete with the 5070 ,5060ti and 5060 and lower

[tawny thicket]

yeah thats fine

[high quarry]

The launch review will come out, the summary will be 5-15% faster for the same price or more, and the sentiment will be 'meh'

That sentiment carries the whole generation, with only the few to wise up and snag them as prices decrease. It does not increase their market share.

[glass vault]

If their 9070xt is 550$ and is on par or slightly faster than the 5070 it still will be a perfect card for most people.

Comes down to if they can challenge Nvidia and not fall flat

[tawny thicket]

what if its cheaper? what if what they did with ZEN 5 3D carries over?

[high quarry]

Thats the only why they can really challenge and steal market share, they just never do, at launch. They launch too expensive, react to the bad reviews, and lower msrp

Then its too late, its labelled as a bad generation and it sticks

[glass vault]

I haven't seen bad reviews just hard to swap perspectives of consumers. Its like how AMD and intel fought on CPUs. Its hard to make the customer swap mentality

We are just now seeing the reputation damage on Intel's side with 14th gen while AMDs for CPUs only gets better

[tawny thicket]

AMD DrIvErS aRe TrAsH

[glass vault]

They are worse than Nvidia launch drivers when new gens come out. Hoping they don't have a major flop like the one that nuked OS drives

[tawny thicket]

".....have a major flop like the one that nuked OS drives" what are you talking about? i NEVER heard of that

[fluid wagon]

I remember hearing about those

[glass vault]

I overstated. Its been a while there was a driver update for 6000 series I believe that caused alot of blue screens.

[tawny thicket]

ah not great but i really dont think that matters *at this point

[glass vault]

AMD has the hardware to beat other people. They just need their software to be a bit more polished on the GPU side.

This is mainly for the launch of new lineups mainly

But man they are crushing the CPU side for almost the last decade

[tawny thicket]

ignore FX then that statement is true

[hearty pollen]

To be fair, they're used in consoles too?

[plucky quail]

To beat other people?

I would not smash some dudes head with AMD GPUs

[flat brook]

I would, they’re still as much of a brick as they used to be

A GPU overal would still make a rather good weapon, just tape one to a knuckle duster

[glass vault]

Companies didn't even notice I said people

GPUs are getting to the point they are weighing the same as a rifle

[plucky quail]

Nah 3090TI is better if you ask me. That fat cooler

[flat brook]

Imagine punching someone in the face with 8448 CUDA cores

“Process this jackass”

[flat brook]

I see your 3090 Ti, and I raise you the 7900 XTX Vapor-X

[plucky quail]

Nah you never saw a 3090TI. It looks more like a box than a GPU

[high quarry]

both wrong

[plucky quail]

Dont get people that say that. Its fine for more than 6 Years. And the driver problems now are same as Nvidia has.

[high quarry]

Red Devil, with appropriate name too:
https://i.imgur.com/pPE5Ci7.png

All chonk

[flat brook]

I’ve seen plenty, they’re long, not necessarily thick, in that department I’ve seen far worse

[plucky quail]

EVGA 3090TI?

[flat brook]

2cm longer, I’ll give it that

[flat brook]

The FTW3? Yeah, comes in around 135mm in height and 300mm in length

[high quarry]

its 2KG

[flat brook]

I don’t think the Vapor-X is too far off from that, it’s 18mm shorter but a minuscule amount thicker and wider

[plucky quail]

And 3090TI is in general Thick You cant miss if you reach for one. Would have one as self Defence

[flat brook]

We lost to the ASUS TUF

358mm in length, 158mm thick, two centimeters thicker than the FTW3 3090 Ti

[plucky quail]

What one

‎30 x 7,1 x 13,67 cm; 3,12 Kilogramm 3090TI

[flat brook]

7900 XTX Gaming OC

35.8 x 7.3 x 15.8, cant find a weight spec

[plucky quail]

Asus Tuf XTX?

[flat brook]

Yes

[plucky quail]

35,29 x 15,82 x 0,25 cm; 1,2 Kilogramm its saying on Amazon

[flat brook]

25mm wide?

[plucky quail]

15,8 x 7,3 x 0,25 cm; 1,2 Kilogramm

[flat brook]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-tuf-rx-7900-xtx-gaming-oc.b9931

[plucky quail]

No wrong one this is XTX

Maybe there is a thicker one

[glass vault]

The 3080ti suprim x is 1.9kg

[plucky quail]

Found one 4090 Apocalypse OC 367 mm/14.4 inches, Quad-slot

[glass vault]

2.15 kg for the 3090 ti version

2.4kg is the heaviest I have seen for msi

[plucky quail]

4090 Apocalypse has even small Fans on the back of the card XD

[flint spoke]

yeah this 4070 super is thiiick. I failed to realize I have a micro atx mobo. (but not case) Wi-Fi card doesnt fit anymore 😂

gpu covers up all three slots

ive just been using my phone tethered as Wi-Fi until I get ethernet set up

[plucky quail]

Wonder how thick the 5090 versions gonna be

[flat brook]

Mine's only 261 x 126 x 50

[plucky quail]

gonna break the 400mm?

[flint spoke]

I cut a piece of cardboard to hold up the gpu since microcenter was out of the bracket things

[glass vault]

A bit thicker but rumor being they want 2 slot designs. Who knows if they are gonna make that real or just insanely long

[flint spoke]

i should probably order one online lol.

[plucky quail]

How much Watt gonna have the 5090?

[flat brook]

Yes.

[high quarry]

in theory, about the same..

[flint spoke]

cardboard seems to be working great tho

[flat brook]

Plug that thing straight into the socket

[high quarry]

5nm vs 3nm

[flint spoke]

im pretty sure this 4070S is about the same size as an Xbox Series S 😂

[hearty pollen]

those are fairly sensibly sized, the god damn 4080s however is absolute insanity

[flint spoke]

I bet a 4090 is bigger than a series X

[flint spoke]

same size as 4090 or something?

[hearty pollen]

At least the S version, its actually quite small, i own one

[glass vault]

450-550

[flint spoke]

10,000 watts

[hearty pollen]

at least not far from, as i havent held a 4090 personally

[glass vault]

It probably won't be 550w for reference due to the max being 600w from the connector.

[high quarry]

It will be 450-475, with maybe peaks to 500

[plucky quail]

I read here in Techpowerup that the 5090 has only 1x 16Pin that can max pull 500W

[hearty pollen]

That a lot from a single connector... i dont like that...

[glass vault]

450-500 being reference with AIBs topping out at 550w

Is the tdp including the 75w from the pcie slot?

[plucky quail]

I mean there must be a increase in power draw for the 5090

[plucky quail]

IDK

[hearty pollen]

TDP should be the total drawage, regardless of source, so... yes, i guess? never occured to me really.

[glass vault]

It seems that it comes down to what the board designer decides. Seems to be mainly used in cards like the a310 or 1050ti where there is no pcie power

[hearty pollen]

But... TDP should be the total draw, not individual sources?

[glass vault]

But it changed the max tdp a card can be since then the max can be 675w if the 12vhpwr and pcie slot did max output

The 4090 does use the pcie for power as well

[hearty pollen]

Never occured to me this can be a thing...

[slim nova]

It is max. My Asus ROG 4090 eats max 470W but it was peak in all max out. AVG. like Stalker 2 with DLSS Quality + FG for 4K120 eats AVG. 280W

[glass vault]

Tdp being the final number after the power loss in this case being 25w to make it 450 then?

[slim nova]

Its means 5090 can do allmost twice power like 4090 with same or little bit more power consumtion

TDB is only chip

TGP is whole GPU card

[glass vault]

@slim nova thank you for the nugget of information

[grizzled drift]

https://imgur.com/a/NK5DvDV

[slim nova]

Ok i am on phone but in HWinfo my 4090 do 75W from PCi at max. i have PCi 5.0 on MB but 4090 is 4.0. Total output power for 4090 is for ex. 470W with include 75W from PCi it means 395W is from 12VHPRW

Sry for my Eng. but i try to not use translator right now and eng is not my nativ lang.

[hearty pollen]

https://imgur.com/a/xWY9lJB Bruh, my d15, come on now!

[plucky quail]

14900K comes in

[viral oyster]

I’ve gotten a few minutes of smooth gameplay at high settings, and now I get single digit framerates, screen tearing, and really high latency even if I turn graphics settings to low. It’s so bad that I can’t even get past the mutant right after the first anomaly encountered in the game. I have a PNY RTX 4060Ti with 8 GB VRAM, a Ryzen 7 7700X, and 32GB DDR5 RAM, and I’ve tried verifying and repairing files, I’ve played with the settings for hours, restarting my machine, turning my machine off completely and turning it back on again, running dxdiag to make sure there’s nothing wrong with my GPU, and updating my GPU drivers. None of that has gotten the game to a playable state. Is there anything else I can try, or will I just have to wait or get a new machine?

[plucky quail]

I think you have Vram issue. You could go to Engine.Ini and check if all the Settings are low and make it maybe lower.

[spare coral]

Prolly running out of vram cause this game eats 8gb just by breathing
Check nexus mods the ultimate engine tweak helped some people

[viral oyster]

I had a feeling VRAM was the issue, but wasn’t sure. I suppose it’s a good thing the RTX 50 series cards are coming next month.

[plucky quail]

You played for hours right the Vram builds up over time so that is that.

[plucky quail]

Dont bet on that. Its gonna be still the same amount of Vram. Nvidia gives to little for users.

[high quarry]

5060 will still be 8GB

[viral oyster]

Nope, I played for a few minutes before this started happening.

[plucky quail]

In town?

[flint spoke]

i guess gamebar/task manager vram is inaccurate as it shows like 6gb in use lol

for some reason. at high settings and epic textures

[plucky quail]

Use is diff to allocated

[viral oyster]

I haven’t even made it half way through the very first mission, I’m still out in the middle of nowhere on the intro.

[high quarry]

It should be able to get much further than that on 1080 low, unless something else is eating up VRAM.

[plucky quail]

Yea you could check if the Settings are applied. maybe manually

[viral oyster]

Where do I go for that?

[hearty pollen]

Yeah, but you wouldnt cool that with a d15, this cpu is what... 120w TDP? realistically 80 during gaming?

[tawny thicket]

i guess they were but they are still garbage

[quiet trellis]

Hello, I could use some help plz, I've got this really annoying jittering shadows I think issue. Specifically look at the gun and window^^ https://imgur.com/mcgbp4j

[lime shuttle]

no pic no click

[quiet trellis]

We can't send pics in this chat thou

Im happy to send it via personal message if you want?

[flat brook]

It’s just an Imgur link, the bitcoin miner is already installed, don’t worry

[quiet trellis]

Is imgur bad? Sorry I'm not really used to having to send stuff through sites, I wish we could just send images normally

[dusk brook]

he's joking.
but I don't like imgur, slow UI, no direct link, overall very "heavy" site for just an image uploader

[quiet trellis]

Any other suggestions for sites to use instead?

[gilded vortex]

My VRAM usage has never gone above 7gb in riva statistics, 1080p, no framegen Epic, 60fps. Guess I'm lucky

[snow torrent]

is anyone playing on HDR here?

[flat brook]

It’s not necessarily bad, just not the first choice for sharing images, but considering we can’t send anything here it’s the first option we jump to

[coral token]

latest update broke shader compile

[tawny thicket]

To solve it you'd probably have to put lumen on an insane setting

But DLSS/DLAA could be a bandaid

[grizzled drift]

Always

[snow torrent]

looks awesome. Even more real

[grizzled drift]

It’s noise from lumen, I have a few fixes you can try to reduce it as much as possible

[grizzled drift]

https://pastebin.com/JWMaw91Q You can try these settings in your Engine.ini

[grizzled drift]

• https://imgur.com/a/NK5DvDV

• https://imgur.com/a/zX1XN7h

yeah forsure, screenshots don't translate perfectly but here's a couple photos

[coral token]

well because my save got corrupted once again decided to do new game since 2 updates rolled out over it

[dusk brook]

man the performance of "certain certain area" is quite bad despite is indoor, probably lack of LOD culling late in production, it's worst than outdoor in forest. =/

[hollow kettle]

I only have about 20 hours in game so far but yeah every single populated area causes hefty performance drop

I’m sure it will continue like this every populated area :/

[dim wren]

😦 the new patch made my stuttering worse, I even tried the peformance mod on nexus, and my shader compilation freezes everytime 😭

[loud valley]

did anyone try to enable virtual shadowmaps via mods or configs? is it possible?

[faint gust]

Guys I'm playing on a laptop with a MUX switch, 8GB 3070ti

I've found out that playing it on hybrid mode (igpu and dgpu enabled) is just better for this game.

Frames are more stable on hybrid. Shader compilation screen is 2 or maybe even more times faster on hybrid. Game just feels smoother on hybrid. Maybe it's just me, but it's there.

[grizzled drift]

Yes

[loud valley]

show me

[grizzled drift]

Show you what exactly?

[loud valley]

virtual shadowmaps enabled in stalker 2

[grizzled drift]

r.Shadow.Virtual.ForceOnlyVirtualShadowMaps=1

[coral token]

@tawny thicket any clue why compiling shaders freezes?

I guess same question to you too @high quarry but this is first update where this has happened for me

and now performance isn't as good in populated areas as it used to be before 1.1.2

[grizzled drift]

Have you tried deleting shader files and restarting?

[coral token]

where are they located I'll try that

haven't tinkered too much and this is since launch install

[grizzled drift]

C:\Users[username]\AppData\Local\Stalker2\Saved

Should be 3 USHADERPRECACHE Files

[coral token]

don't see it

[coral token]

can I dm?

[grizzled drift]

sure

[tawny thicket]

probably because the game tries to use the PRE-patch shaders to speed up the schader compile and they might be incompatible with something in the new update

AMD or NVIDIA @coral token ?