pc-specs

[spare coral]

Im still stuck at shader compilation even after resetting it from my gpu settings

[dry lynx]

Is it actually infinitely loading or shadow crash?

[spare coral]

Infinitely loading
The game is only using 5% of my cpu

[dry lynx]

Is it a specific npc or any?

[unkempt perch]

nice update.. funny as hell xD
Fixed performance drops on NVIDIA RTX 3000 series video cards with enabled FSR frame generation oho

[unkempt perch]

trader for me

[dry lynx]

Just trader?

[high quarry]

They said foliage fixes. I wonder if that includes some of the odd culling distance behaviour

[unkempt perch]

I did a quick check and every time I approached the trader the fps dropped and the game crashed, I will keep testing under different circumstances

[dry lynx]

I may be stupid in not knowing how to clear shader but as noob mentioned - did you try that?

[spare coral]

Yeah, verifying the game files now to see if it fixes it

[high quarry]

Disk cleanup, but you can delete files too

[dry lynx]

Which trader is it? Like what village/town?

[steep hatch]

Man, thats why I was tryna to tell everyone, especially those that didn't play the first game..
Just calm down...let em cook..

[unkempt perch]

Slag Heap - Garbage

[dry lynx]

Okay great I can check it out later today and see whether I also have any issues - what are your pc specs just in case?

[unkempt perch]

R7 5800X3D, RTX 3070 Ti, 32GB RAM 3600Mhz

[supple halo]

running any mods?

[unkempt perch]

nope, zero mods

[slow rain]

If you’re having issues with those specs I definitely will be with mine 🤣

[unkempt perch]

yup, I think it's even worse than it was xD

[high quarry]

I will have to check the base profiles Low-Epic tonight to see if S2 settings generator profiles need updating.

Game was running well last night though:
https://i.imgur.com/nI8IxKs.jpeg

[chrome wagon]

theres no way the new patch is bad from what ive been hearing its not going too good so far yikes

[unborn otter]

Its not bad most people didnt clear there shader cache

[slow rain]

I’m happy playing at 30fps as long as it’s stable however I just have random frame drops down to 5fps I’ll save reload to the exact same location and then it’s fine again so not sure what would be causing it

[supple halo]

9800x3d 32gb 4070 ti super, still waiting for patch to wrap up to try

[dry lynx]

Just to be safe but how do I do that? Am on Xbox gamepass

[high quarry]

At 1080 I was at 180-250fps last night, so I can compare that against patch later: https://i.imgur.com/IA50bw4.jpeg

[spare coral]

you need to do it in the settings of your graphics cards
amd or nvidia

[mental bronze]

Oh boye, my 1660 is gonna get wrecked harder than before

[unborn otter]

Dont think you can on xbox series s or x

[dry lynx]

On pc but using gamepass

[dry lynx]

So in amd control panel?

[spare coral]

yeah go to global settings and its the last option

[high quarry]

I would also run Disk Cleanup and tick the DX Shader Cache option too

[dry lynx]

Aighty thanks a lot, after the patch is installed but before starting the game again yes?

[spare coral]

yeah

[dry lynx]

Great thanks, gonna do that once I'm home

[dry lynx]

What does that do exactly? Out of curiosity

[high quarry]

shader cache is just files, its attempts to delete those files

[solar thorn]

Is the performance alot better

[lavish mason]

Once upon a time a game I enjoyed released a patch that deleted boot.ini from windows.
Quite the bug

[dry lynx]

Do I run disk cleanup AFTER clearing shader cache via AMD control panel?

[spare coral]

just verifyied the files
the game is still stuck

[chrome wagon]

how much gb is the game now

[slow rain]

Im using a 1660 super with Ryzen 5 2600 I’d get 60fps when wandering in the wilderness but towns and npc’s just kick my system to death. I’m looking at upgrading when I get paid soon anyway so hopefully I don’t have to suffer for much longer lol

[spare coral]

still the same

[high quarry]

doesnt matter, and neither does pre-post patch, as long as you dont run it

[dry lynx]

The patch with its size does not add onto your storage it's just the size of the files being overwritten

[mental bronze]

Ya im playing in 1300 something x 700 resolution
Usually getting 60 FPs but towns kick me down to 40~ then the random nasty stutters drop me to 7~10 😴

[high quarry]

Settlements are very geometry heavy, with more overdraw.

[supple halo]

kinda looks like the patch removed the shader cache to me, not seeing it in roaming local files

[slow rain]

I can’t get my head around whether it’s my pc or an issue in the game as I’ll be running at 60-70fps but then in a town it’ll be fine then will drop to 5 then I’ll reload the save while still being in the same location and it’ll run fine again

[high quarry]

220fps outside Malachite: https://i.imgur.com/XMd8Od7.jpeg
Down to 180fps in it: https://i.imgur.com/UxWBFul.jpeg

[slow rain]

Looking foward to seeing how my system will be now with this patch

[mental bronze]

Im about to finish patching so i will check it soon

[slow rain]

I’m at work till 2 and won’t be able to get on till 4:30 and will still have to download the patch 🥲

[high quarry]

If you get a massive drop in settlements (assuming CPU is reasonably good), its because you are RAM/VRAM bandwidth starved.

[sand nimbus]

Anyone downloaded the patch yet. I get 30fps more in Zalissya.

[unborn otter]

You can use your phone to verify the patch on your pc

[spare coral]

Did this and im still stuck

[raw sleet]

seems to be running a little better for me; hanging around skadovsk the last 20 minutes or so and it's not as stuttery as it was and it hasn't crashed yet

[tawny thicket]

WHAT, i might actually retest the game then

[sand nimbus]

Yeah

[dry lynx]

I feel like they should make 32gb of ram a minimum requirement

[slow rain]

Tried to on steam but won’t let me do it for some reason

[high quarry]

Maybe from this:
Performance improvements in largely populated areas of the map.

[nocturne tundra]

Could anyone attest to rostok performance

[sand nimbus]

Did you download yet@high quarry

[high quarry]

Naa, at work until later.

but I know I was good for 180fps in this spot: https://i.imgur.com/CKo50zh.jpeg

[raw sleet]

fsr frame gen got bumped to 3.1

[high quarry]

All the NPCs are inside that building

[dry lynx]

Sadly not any time soon

[high quarry]

I have a hard save point in this exact spot too, so I can compare it aswell: https://i.imgur.com/bGslUAp.jpeg

[austere cave]

Someone tried the update? It's playable now with the optimization?

[unborn otter]

On 4090 im getting over 100 fps with no dlss or frame gen

I was getting 90 fps before the patch though

[hard juniper]

around 11% performance improvement, not bad

[dry lynx]

I mean judging by the persons question a 4090 would definitely have it playable, I think he's rather curious about fps on worse setups

[rare temple]

Don't know yet. I just started downloading it via PC Game Pass. 117gb download. I'll know in about an hour or so.

[stable kite]

I don't see Zalyssa defense quest mission fixed hope it is

[unborn otter]

True the 4090 might have more of a performance improvement then other nvidia gpus

[dry lynx]

How exactly is it bugged for you?

[high quarry]

Thats the only one that has been majorly bugged for me.

I got mostly past it with a console command.

[dry lynx]

That KillAll command? Or quest complete command?

[sour nacelle]

Are people reporting good performance improvements?

[storm robin]

The mission is called On The Edge and it's literally in patchnotes

[hard juniper]

pretty sure they tried to fix that in the last patch, still broken for you?

[lavish mason]

It's bugged in that this this the no spoilers section

[high quarry]

the start quest, so stuff actually spawned and they went out to fight

[dry lynx]

Ohh it didn't even spawn for you

[dry lynx]

Shhhhhhhhhhh

[unborn otter]

400 bugs were fixed this patch so its gonna be good

[high quarry]

Nope, and if I ghosted into the building, they were all just sprinting into a locked door

[lavish mason]

It's not hard to discuss it in the spoilers section is it.

[sour nacelle]

With all due respect that does not answer my question

[lavish mason]

WITH DUE RESPECT YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION. DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED

[high quarry]

All I have heard so far is slightly more fps in Zalissya, and fps tank and crash in Slag heap

[stable kite]

everyone stuck inside the locked building . When i can lure some out the main door opens but some still stay inside

[stable kite]

will try again soon with this patch

[dry lynx]

The enemies are also inside the building or what?

[lavish mason]

Can you take this to the spoilers section ffs

[stable kite]

yes

[stable kite]

sorry but i didn't spoiled anything will stop anyway

[high quarry]

So tempted to start a fresh game with this patch..

[spare coral]

My game crashed after i got it to work and now its stuck in shader compilation again

[lavish mason]

You did but whatever

[high quarry]

Even just to get rid of this little lock icon on every single interaction that requires me to press tab every 10 seconds.

[short torrent]

Wow maybe this new update will finally fix some bug stuff hope to get on later today lol

[high quarry]

I wonder if they got through half their bug list yet.

[lavish mason]

No chance

[high quarry]

At least P1s

[dry lynx]

I hope it won't be like Helldivers 2 where one bug fix opens two new ones

[lavish mason]

its stalker! of course it will!

[crisp latch]

A life starting to get fixed that’s awesome news

[supple halo]

seems to run good to me so far

[fallen pond]

Is performance better? The stuttering stopped me playing. Hope its a little better at least

[serene marsh]

did they fix fps drop in pripyat?

[supple halo]

i'm running some pretty high end parts, i'd have to run it on the wifes to see if it's better, it does still eat more than 8g vram

pripyat seemed fine to me before too, but again my parts

[uncut raptor]

Hello
can anyone DM me patch notes?

[dry lynx]

You can just open the steam link in the announcement tho?

[uncut raptor]

yeah, but it is unavailable in my country, so i can't ;(

[high quarry]

https://www.stalker2.com/news/patch-1-1

[coral token]

damn 110gb update lol

[serene marsh]

i have 12400 with 4060ti when i get into pripyat my gpu usage drop to 60% even after enable FG i get cpu bottleneck with 60 fps

[coral token]

was about to say your cpu bottlenecks

I have Ryzen 7 5800x3d with RX6800XT and no issues overall since launch

but I do see at times vram spike above 12gb

[supple halo]

pripyat uses upwards of 60% of my cpu, thats on a 9800x3d

[coral token]

most areas on my cpu use around 40% haven't been to pripyat yet CNNP was around 55%

open roams barely put load on it tho

[supple halo]

open roams there is almost like ur always surrounded by npc's do to the buildings

[lavish mason]

Share the load dot gif

[coral token]

well will see how different the 1.1 patch will be if I'll see performance improvements good at most will improve my 1% lows

[serene marsh]

i know but in most cases i get 60+ without fg. idk what is wrong with pripyat i cant even continue playing🙃

[coral token]

pripyat has a lot of npcs and buildings

[serene marsh]

i was hoping this patch is going to fix it but maybe not

[fleet lantern]

im stuck on shader cache, anyone know a solution?

[serene marsh]

bro when i get in pripyat i didnt even see a single stalker

[coral token]

a life fighting for its life to spawn lots of monolith on you lmao

[supple halo]

i've killed prob over 40 just in one building 😛

[coral token]

but yeah they are in buildings

[serene marsh]

[stable kite]

yep side quest mission defense is fixed and performance is wayyy better

seem it is taking less vram

[torn urchin]

what ur specs, curious?

[low hemlock]

what GPU u have ? Nvidia ?

[stable kite]

i712700h / 3060 6gb / 32gb

[serene marsh]

to me it was strange and i did check buildings but all of them was empty my only encounter was fighting with dogs and bloodsuckers

[stable kite]

preset medium dlss balanced

[low hemlock]

Did u have the VRAM memory leak issue before ?

[edgy crest]

how many gigabites is the patch/update ?

[stable kite]

yes drop to 10 fps, currently testing to see if happens again but fps is higher for sure

[serene marsh]

in previous patch they fix it. at least it was fixed for me

[torn urchin]

120 for gamepass

[low hemlock]

aight cool, thanks for the info, waiting for my download to finish and will be testing too

[lavish mason]

any fixes for the crashing when compiling shaders post 1.1 patching?

other than verify files

[low hemlock]

sadly was not fixed for me, opening the PDA and the main menu still resulted in massive stuttering for a second or so along with the vram increasing in 100mb increments each time the PDA and menu was opened

with DLSS FG enabled that is

[lost summit]

Is my save coocked?

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x00000200797d8f00

[coral token]

looks like it yes

[low hemlock]

i'd happily start a new save if it meant bye bye vram memory leak....worth trying a new save but somehow doubt it will make a difference with the memory leak lol

[supple halo]

try deleteing the shader cache, and check to see your gpu driver is updated, might even be worth checking for cpu chipset driver updates, or motherboard bios updates

[flat brook]

Did you remove any mods?

[lost summit]

yep. I only had changes in config so i deleted that changes

[lavish mason]

im blind irl i cant see any option to delete shader cache. amd

never mid, its a christmas miracle

[grizzled drift]

We've been blessed

1800 patch notes is wild

[steel geyser]

does the object pop in feels much more worse to anybody else?

literally building up trees and stuff in front of me, didnt happen before patch

[lost summit]

I mean i only lost 30 hours of gameplay but still. The story is boring for me when i know what will happen

[flat brook]

Pick a different route

But if it’s just engine.ini changes, it shouldn’t cause memory address issues, you should try loading saves before the last one, one by one, as tedious as that is

[lost summit]

now it won't even start bruh. U know where saves are stored? Because i will do full reinstall

[flat brook]

Appdata > Local > Stalker2 > SAVED

[lavish mason]

Compiling shaders hanging after deleting shader cache

Fml

[supple halo]

check for any kind of driver updates

[next terrace]

patch 1.1 dropped and now the game wont even load the menu in, instant ctd lmao

[fleet lantern]

if anyone curious and stuck on compiling like I was, I found the solution. Its User > appdata > local > stalker 2 > delete shader cache file

[lavish mason]

there isnt

[supple halo]

what jr said

[lavish mason]

already done this. made no djkfference

[fleet lantern]

nvidia?

[supple halo]

amd

[lavish mason]

amd

[fleet lantern]

i also set disabled shader cache in nvidia control panel and restart my pc then set it back to 5gb, so whatever the amd equivalent of that is, do that

[next terrace]

stalker 2 just has a bunch of different folders inside, where do i find the shader cache?

[lavish mason]

there isnt one where they said,thats form,sure

[supple halo]

Stalker2_PCD3D_SM6.upipelinecache

[fleet lantern]

mine was at the bottom, not a folder just a cache file

yeah that

[lavish mason]

thats not there

[fleet lantern]

maybe need to enable extensions in windows?

or whatever the fk settings makes the hidden stuff visable

[supple halo]

it's prob more of, if there not making it past the loading of it, it doesn't get saved there

[lavish mason]

ive already deleted the cache from amd software

[fleet lantern]

hold up I'm stuck 3/4 through. disregard everything ive said

[steel geyser]

whats up with FSR frame gen? It still dont work for me, only DLSS frame gen. But i like FSR better.. sadge

[lavish mason]

i was dont worry! 😄

[maiden plinth]

are they fixed it?

[fleet lantern]

i thought i was good but its stuck again, only this time at the end instead of the start

[lavish mason]

reeeeeeeeeee

[next terrace]

stuck for me at the start still lol great patch gsc

[lavish mason]

restarted windows lets see if this helps

the magical all solving power of turning it off and on again, my main crutch for anything tech based

compiling shaders failed faster than before!

[spare coral]

I didnt get any better fps but it seems more stable rn
Settlements still kill most of my framerate tho (ill check rostok later on)

[lavish mason]

zero percent

[fleet lantern]

mines made it a little further

[spare coral]

I had to delete the amd cache till it worked

[supple halo]

for me i just wipe windows and start fresh

[next terrace]

shits not worth it, off to play gamma again, see you all at patch 1.2 lmao

[coral token]

sometimes even in game the AA and FG somehow glitches so I just reset that lmao

[fleet lantern]

i heard throwing your whole rig in a swimming pool, building a new one and reinstalling sometimes works

[lavish mason]

i literally updated with windos iso 2 days ago im not doing it again cos the patch fcked my game

[supple halo]

i leave FG off even when i ran a 3070ti it was just trash

open the AMD Radeon Software, navigate to the "Gaming" tab, then go to "Graphics", expand "Advanced" settings, and select "Reset Shader Cache" to clear it

try that

[lavish mason]

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\RenderingThread.cpp] [Line: 1273] GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs

[fleet lantern]

im SO close

1cm of loading bar

[high quarry]

That could be anything unfortunatly. i.e driver.

[lavish mason]

well yeah, a classique absolutely helpless error message

[shut elbow]

Online alife is still around pathetic 100m only

[stable kite]

Currently playing so far so good

[steel geyser]

i think it still just random spawner

[tight urchin]

time to wait for my mods to update

[steel geyser]

if you run far away, npc will despawns and new stuff get in place

[tight urchin]

quite sure the game wouldn't run otherwise in the current state

[steel geyser]

Yeah, but they saying there is an offline element, but its still not there imo

[shut elbow]

I saw group of stalker moving, but its hard to tell how much of alife is working with such small "online" distance.

[tight urchin]

u tried on a new save? alternatively slept for a few days?

[steel geyser]

i have a test setup.
Around Zalissya, i saved a guy in a small village from a bloodsucker, after that he just sits down near the village on some boxes, i tested it, and if you run far enough he just despawns, not going anywhere near Zalissya, just despawn. After i run back to see, new bloodsuckers also spawned in that small village.

In OG stalkers, this guy would've walked back to Zalissya.

[flat brook]

But have you tested it on a new save? Or alternatively, slept for a few days?

[steel geyser]

no, just loaded up an old save, where i saved this guy

[tight urchin]

with a lot of the a-life mods you had to either start a new save or sleep for a few days for the changes to kick in

[shut elbow]

It wont change a thing. Alife is (or rather should be) heart of the spawn and life of all npc. They never went to limbo in og. If u left group of stalkers, u could meet same group again.

[flat brook]

You’d be amazed at what big patches can mess up with already written data in saves stemming from older versions

[halcyon roost]

anyone else not able to load into the game??

[tight urchin]

that's the thing, nobody can say "oh yeah this totally does or doesn't work" since nobody knows shit about this game
I'd always try it out on a new game to make sure especially since mods didn't work until a few days actually passed

[steel geyser]

Like yeah, just test it. Save the guy south of Zalissya in the "Dire Thicket" and tell me what happens with the saved guy.

[coral token]

first past launch patch ruined my save and that wasn't even as big as current

[shut elbow]

I know, i mod games for quite a while xd
I dont have time for next few days so i guess someone else will find how to increase new "alife" online switch distance.

[shut elbow]

I had saves ruined without any patch so

[steel geyser]

well performance still feels bad, i think the game even looks worse, with all the pop ins now, so i will wait more i guess 😄

[tight urchin]

sadge

[shut elbow]

Only "unknown" factor here is unreal engine, which i honestly avoided like a plague.

[grizzled drift]

I don't trust or listen to anybody in these chats

Aint nobody here a Unreal Engine Engineer

[tight urchin]

yeah people just state speculations as facts lol

[tight urchin]

oh yeah and unreal engine is only a small part of the game true

[steel geyser]

i mean, it still evident, i loaded a save i found some stalker rooming around not far, i load it again, and nothing now. So its just random still. No offline mode

[shut elbow]

Unfortunately it is an unreal engine xd
Cant wait to get pissed off while modding witcher 4.

[high quarry]

What it sounded like to me was:
Same close radius for 'online', with a larger radius and some spawn fixes.
Simulation at a larger radius out of your view, but not truly 'offline' as in IRL time between sessions.

[grizzled drift]

Wait did people really think offline mode meant like AI would be doing stuff while your game/PC isn't even on 😅

[high quarry]

By the way some people talk about it, seems so.

[grizzled drift]

Yikes

[high quarry]

Even radius based though, I wouldn't expect any kind of simulation far enough to be in other zones.

[shut elbow]

Maybe one day in the future xd
Right now we need to tweak files for existing alife

[high quarry]

You can tick the AI really fast just by using slomo 10, but not the same thing 😄

[shut elbow]

In og u could set up to ~700m before engine had a stroke.

Idk how much here (yet)

[tight urchin]

the game does run better when your monitor is off too

[past lynx]

how is the cpu performance has anyone had the chance to test it still downloading the patch

[grizzled drift]

I bet it does lmao

[tight urchin]

they finally put AFK Arena into Stalker 2

[shut elbow]

On 9800x3d maybe 10-15% better from quick test

[grizzled drift]

"Enhanced A-Life NPCs' motivation to expand territory and actively attack enemies and mutants." - They did say this though so maybe expanding territory means they will be in other zones/go to other zones.

[tight urchin]

check out the a-life mods on nexus (roadside, shays, alife extended)

[past lynx]

okay im on 5700x3d the game drops to about 45fps in settlements and climbs up to about 55ish

[high quarry]

A 700 meter radius would be massive wouldn't it? > 1500 KM area?

[shut elbow]

There r navimeshes for travelling between zones, so i think its possible

[tawny thicket]

55 is also in settlement's right?

[grizzled drift]

Yeah and I'm pretty sure the GameGraph they use for Offline (Global AI Navigation Map) allows for that too

[past lynx]

yes

[high quarry]

if we get them crossing the bridges etc between zones, its something

[remote elk]

Aight boys, whoever has problems with shader compiling. I have a full AMD setup so I updated my motherboard through gigabyte control centre, deleted shader chace through AMD adrenalin, verified game files, restarted pc and everything loaded uo perfectly. Hope it helps at least someone.

[shut elbow]

Entire, every single map was online xd
Quite interesting it was xd

[past lynx]

in the open world it howers around 80 to 100fps

[grizzled drift]

This does work, can confirm, mainly the disable shader cache and restart pc then re-enable part

[tawny thicket]

I will try that once i get the update and it doesn't work

[remote elk]

Yeah the update mobo was probably not needed tbh, but I read it helps

[shut elbow]

Those r old files for that spawner.
Now question is which cfg is responsible for new "spawner"

[high quarry]

shouldnt be hard to find

[tawny thicket]

I think my BIOS is on the latest version anyway

[shut elbow]

In og, there was a literal ONE line of code.

[coral token]

Somehow others didn't now gonna see if 1.1 did

[tawny thicket]

MAGIC

[coral token]

Stalker 2 right now is either speedrun your game to finish as fast as possible and don't worry about save corruption or hit a soft lock bug in your progress and start fresh on new save when update drops since old is corrupted

[stable kite]

Played for more then 1 hour and no fps drop to 10 for me finally

[shut elbow]

Oh, memory leak is fixed too?

[pseudo blade]

110GB OH my god

[sand nimbus]

No

[stable kite]

i have to play more to make sure but for 1 hour i am optimistic here, medium preset with dlss perf, 12700h / 3060 6g / 32gb, 50-70 fps

[unkempt perch]

Nope, still memory leaks if you have 8GB VRAM

[stable kite]

try medium textures

[shut elbow]

I have 12gb vram but it still used to leak and become unplayable

[sand nimbus]

Tbh at this point i dont think theyll fix it

[unkempt perch]

yea, UE5 is broken and never be working good

[stable kite]

Any chance they will upgrade to U5.5?

[uneven portal]

It really doesn't matter if they manage to upgrade it, Unreal is still the same trash. Even Nanite, if you disable it, the game runs better XD.

The problem with Stalker 2 was exactly that: trusting this awful engine, which creates technologies that no one uses because they're slow, and only serve to fix problems that the engine itself creates.

[flat brook]

Moving from 5.1 to 5.4/5 would do a lot for the game.

As would relying less/not at all on Lumen and Nanite, by baking their own lighting and creating their own LODs

[nimble cobalt]

@stable kite Im curious, is your build a pc or laptop?

[lusty mason]

Hows the game now people?

[uneven portal]

The reason they used Unreal Engine in the first place was to bypass optimization, like most studios do. That's why I highly doubt they would want to do that, even if it helped their game.

[stable kite]

laptop, and i was getting 10 fps drops frequently with same settings, now is much better and no drops so far, i will confirm once i play for more then 2 hours to see

[high quarry]

I think lumen is 'fine', but a fully directional fallback on low preset would help.

[flat brook]

The reason they used UE like most studios do nowadays is because it has become an industry standard thought in school, making it easier for studios to find employees.

It’s also less time consuming than GSC having to create a new proprietary engine.

It just comes with the added consequence of having technologies that can entirely circumvent any required optimization as long as they utilize them as they were intended to be utilized.

[nimble cobalt]

I still get fps drops but that is immediately after I tweaked the graphics settings but after a while it stops

I still need more testing though

[lusty mason]

What's your specs out of curiosity

[uneven portal]

Well, they are paying a high price for using Unreal. It's ultimately a matter of opinion, but with what we know, I don't feel sorry for GSC. The work they're doing now could have been avoided if they hadn't switched to Unreal 5 or used another engine better suited for the game they wanted to present. A system like A-Life is clearly proving difficult for them to implement.

[uneven portal]

Lumen is a system that looks good in static captures, but in motion, it doesn't convince me. It leaves a weird trail and is unplayable in native mode without TAA. I prefer classic lighting.

[lusty mason]

We still getting Raytracing at some point?

[inner pawn]

we have the same spec except 3070ti so i think i should be fine? i havent bought the game yet

[nimble cobalt]

I see, also, how about try and test it in Rostok? That's where my fps drops to around 30-50 fps

I was curious because mine's a 4050 which is also a 6GB Graphics Card.
It is also because I think the 3000 series was optimized but not the 4000 series so this is a hasty take for me hence why I asked.

[nimble cobalt]

I5 - 13420H 4050 6GB VRAM 24GB DDR5 RAM

[lusty mason]

Lappy

[nimble cobalt]

Yep

[uneven portal]

Maybe they optimized it, but given the increase in A-Life, the performance will likely be bottlenecked again.

[lusty mason]

Didn't realise the patch dropped so early so only just downloading, be able to test in an hour, patch is huge

[nimble cobalt]

It also drops to 10 but that's when I screw around by tweaking the graphics mid-game.

[dry lynx]

4050🥲

[stable kite]

well, drop to 30-50 is "playable"the problem was the drop to 5-10 lol

[fading stone]

A-life seems still broken
NPCs not reacting to bullets buzzing around them
can spot and aggro you before you can even see them on the distance (through foliage)

[uneven portal]

For some reason, the FPS overlay from Nvidia Experience no longer works in the game. Looks like you'll have to install MSI Afterburner, bruh.

[flat brook]

Not necessarily a matter of opinion, and moreso a matter of common sense.

Not a single studio actively goes out of their way to choose UE because they want to circumvent optimization, they choose UE because it’s easily accessible and becoming a far more common tool to work with than any other engine out there.

The more people you have that know the engine, the easier the development process will be.

The Slipspace engine gave 343i absolute grief for many many years, 343i isn’t switching to UE because they longer want to do optimization, simply because they’ll have more people who are able to develop the game effectively, instead of having to develop the engine itself.

I agree that UE5 relies far too heavy on technologies like Nanite, Lumen etc, it’s why I hope TI can get it through Epic’s thick skull that even within UE5, there’s a lot of changes they can make to their pipeline to un-screw most of the issues they themselves have created

[lusty mason]

My 4090 had a single random drop to single digits and then back to normal so i can imagine the 4050 doing it more regularly

[stable kite]

only thing i noticed about A life better is the zone is more alive, the rest is the same

[lusty mason]

Wasn't 343i getting contractors in who knew about SlipSpace and the og's didn't have a clue as it was changed so much by the contractors then they'd rotate staff and it all became shit lol

[uneven portal]

Even with what you said, it doesn't change the fact that they're now paying the price for using Unreal Engine 5, and they'll continue

[flat brook]

Im talking from a core standpoint, not necessarily from a employee rotation perspective. I.e shortly after 343 took over from Bungie. Anyone new you bring onboard has to learn about the engine first, before being able to continue development

[flat brook]

Yes, hopefully they’ll migrate to 5.4/5 at some point, and update their pipeline with some of the recent knowledge that has been gathered from TI. Once that happens, they’ll be in a good place.

[vapid wigeon]

lol to be honest if the memory leak is still a thing after I've read all this... It has to be something on the persons system triggering it in affect with the game engine its self. I'm still not affected by it.

[coral token]

I didn't experience random memory leaks since launch tbh

[flat brook]

160 hours in and not a single “VRAM” leak either, running DLAA+FG

[vapid wigeon]

Same, haven't had a single issue period or even a crash. So.

[coral token]

Only times I crashed was because of inventory

[uneven portal]

No leak problems only visual bugs

[vapid wigeon]

At this point, I will stand by it and blame a lot of issues on people running over lays, msi crap, and just misconfiguration some where. When I say I'm running bare bones, I mean it. No bs extra apps, Just radeon app by default, and steam. System resources are just the usual windows 11 things running and thats it.

NOW I CAN say that I bet a lot of people have 24H2 update which windows just announced yesterday is RUINING gaming performance. So there's that.

I didnt udpate to H2 yet and wont so.

[flint perch]

i have memory leak just by running the game with everything close

[neat needle]

That's not A-Life though.. That's AI.. A-Life is a simulation of the zone whether you are there or not

[vapid wigeon]

At this point I'm doubtful half of you have a memory leak. If its low vram contributing to it, thats literally just the limits of the GPU you're using and its pushing beyond it.

[flint perch]

also
Fixed performance drops on NVIDIA RTX 3000 series video cards with enabled FSR frame generation.

on previous patch, people (and myself) get memory leaks simply having frame gen on.

[vapid wigeon]

And I'll go ahead and say it. Nvidia is trash any more. I didnt say it last time but yeah, its time. The tables turn when those drivers lately have been nothing but issues with anything driver related lately. Unreal forums are loaded with Nvidia complaints, as are steam in several titles this whole past year.

So maybe blame it more on the devs of those sort of things.

[stable kite]

Only use FG if you have high fps also it uses more vram

[vapid wigeon]

And firstly, if you're using RTX 3000 and FSR, Just why? Don't.

[lapis niche]

Anyone tested the performance optimization in 1.1. Any data yet?

[flint perch]

"oh, an option that was in other game that give you a big fps boost with little input lag for free? Count me in" and it give you memory leaks

[nocturne tundra]

did it and it's taking ages to compile the shaders

left it running for the past 36 minutes and it's only halfway

[remote elk]

36 min is too much I think

maybe delete shaders again and restart and try once more

[spare coral]

Yeah maybe its stuck
Its happening to a lot of people (me included) didnt find any fix for it yet

[tired turret]

it depend of you're seetings

i've tried with mid settings and it's fast, go epic and kaboom

[nocturne tundra]

games just frozen after restart

[spare coral]

Im fully recompiling the shaders for 15th time today

[nocturne tundra]

nah second restart didn't work at all

[rare temple]

So I notice when comparing gear in my inventory, they've added "scrolling" animation when switching between say your primary and secondary weapon, and it has a label at the top telling you whether it's the primary or secondary you are comparing to. That is a godsend! lol

https://youtu.be/tvKMegB85rg

[agile harbor]

Are you see max or near max CPU utilization during shader comp? If you're seeing nothing, its broken and nothing is happening. @nocturne tundra

[nocturne tundra]

it's been 0 a few times

one time it was max but stuck halfways for over half an hour

[uneven portal]

66 fps brhu game

[tawny thicket]

Yeah, either full raster or ACTUAL RT

[uneven portal]

pls just a normal rt like metro exodus

[agile harbor]

Last two nights I dove into Indiana Jones in Full RT mode and I'm floored. I think its going to take me ages to get through this game with all the stopping for screenshots. That's 1000% the future.

[uneven portal]

metro exodus enchansed = 2060, 60 fps / stalker 2 low, no lumen, no nanite, 1200p = 50 fps

[tawny thicket]

Though for me lumen doesn't look too smeared

[uneven portal]

lumen is just a lazy dev thing, we can get the same grafics whit normal raster

[vapid wigeon]

Watched my wife play it. That game is amaaaaaazingly good looking. And she was playing it on supreme settings on 1440. That Lil 4070 ti super did amazing lol.

[nimble cobalt]

Ok, so far, there is still the 10 FPS drop when interacting with NPCs in settlements particularly Rostok but it increases after interacting with other NPCs

[pseudo stream]

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\RenderingThread.cpp] [Line: 1273] GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs

Hi! Any advice to solve this? I can't start the game since the new patch

[agile harbor]

verify game files

[flint perch]

wait, interacting with npc in rostok just kill your fps?

[spare coral]

Well damn i tried everything since hours ago but the game refuses to compile the shaders
Guess ill uninstall and wait for another big patch lol

[nimble cobalt]

Further look, its not just the NPCs

[tawny thicket]

AMD / Nvidia?

[spare coral]

Amd

[agile harbor]

Are you doing anything to try and fix it or just hoping it works? Because there are steps to something like this.

[nimble cobalt]

but the FPS stabilizes after interaction

[spare coral]

Deleting shade cache on the gpu control panel, deleting dx shader cache etc
I tried everything

[flint perch]

nice, i'm having trouble with rostok all the time, glad it's getting better

[spare coral]

I verified the files of the game twice etc

[agile harbor]

DDU?

[nimble cobalt]

I have to share my thought: I gave up playing STALKER 2 when I defended Zalissya because it kills my FPS when "they" spawn but per observation, I think its playable after the patch.

[spare coral]

Yep

[flint perch]

the game straight up crash my pc after i defended zalissya

ran back to rostok to fix stuff but when i got close to rostok, pc crashed

[stable kite]

it is just finished it finally and no 10 fps drop for me there either

[nimble cobalt]

Nice

[south kite]

why is there 110gb update!??!?!

[flint perch]

unreal baby

[pseudo stream]

I've tried and nothing. It continues to crash. Yesterday it was fine

[nimble cobalt]

My current issue right now is the FPS drop on settlements which have NPCs hence why I gave up playing STALKER 2 because it just ruins the gameplay and immersion especially when you have to fight so many of "them" in the latter part of the game.

[plucky quail]

Best update so far

[stable kite]

Check this, seems AMD gpus is more vram hungry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA3seVWsLlc

[agile harbor]

These channels are BS, btw.

[stable kite]

fresh video with stalker 2 test

[plucky quail]

Anybody tested the update?

[spare coral]

Cant play the game after the update

[plucky quail]

lol

[agile harbor]

No accountability, no verification that the hardware said to be being used is accurate. You can playback the game and have that overlay say whatever you want for a GPU name.

[lavish mason]

same here

[flint harbor]

Alright, the game works better, still having those 5-10fps drops.. so still wont play it for now (RTX 3060) until fix or I upgrade my pc next year

[mental bronze]

Had a blast 4h straight almost 5h only 1 stutter near the end most of the run 60 FPS and in towns 40~
Saw way more NPC/mutant activity
Nvidia 1660 TI 6GB / 32GB Ram / Erying i9 11980HK i9 11900H

[plucky quail]

I need to reset my pc 😭 since yesterday I am on it. Windows still didn’t reset my pc

[plucky quail]

The 5-10fps is cus of the VRAM

[stable kite]

medium preset at most and dlss performance try it

[nimble cobalt]

The FPS drop on arena bro

[flint harbor]

I have everything on low.. still does it

[slow rain]

Nice! Decided to buy a new CPU and RAM that’ll be delivered tomorrow. Might have a look at getting a new GPU next month I’ll start updating when I’m home

[stable kite]

how many ram you have

[flint harbor]

vram or ram?

[stable kite]

full specs, check if nvidia overlay is off too

[nimble cobalt]

Is nvidia overlay really that of a performance issue?

[flint harbor]

its off, 6gb of vram (3060) + 32gb ram - I7 11700H. The game works fine 60 fps+ but after some min of game play it drops to 5-10 fps

[mental bronze]

Get some mods to tweak UE & game (personal recommendation)

[pseudo stream]

The game has worked perfectly since releas and the shader crash is new. There is any problem with the specifications

[mental bronze]

It helped me reduce frequency and duration of stutters

[stable kite]

i have almost the same except cpu is 12700h and the drops are over here for now, very strange

[nimble cobalt]

Has anyone used thunderbolt to fix their performance?

[flint harbor]

Tried them, I have everything on the game. GSC either fixes the game or I wait untill I upgrade my pc LOL

[mental bronze]

Ugh

im playing on 1300x760 resolution though xD
Sucks but can at least play decently

[late ferry]

danszy has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[agile harbor]

what? lol

[lost summit]

They really cooked my save

nearly 30h into the story (and most side quest in the starting zone)

[nimble cobalt]

Honestly, I would probably buy a thunderbolt just so I could decently play STALKER 2

that or I wait for further patches

[toxic cradle]

has the update provided a lot of performance optimisation?

[tired turret]

the game seems more stable, but fsr didn't work on 3080ti crashes, but got strange artifacts with trees

now i have 50 fps stable in high on 2500x1440p

[lapis niche]

Thanks!

[rare temple]

I think it depends on your GPU, CPU, etc. For me (Ryzen 5 3600, GTX-1660), there have been good improvements when entering settlements. I'm playing at 1080p, low graphics settings, FSR 3.1 Balanced. FPS doesn't tank like it did before, but without using engine.ini tweaks, I still can experience drops to 5-10 fps, so memory leak is still a thing. I think it might just be that way for those of us with GPUS having 8gb VRAM or less due to Unreal Engine and the way it loves to suck up VRAM. But with some engine.ini tweaks, I can get 60 fps out in the zone, and around 40-45 fps (minimum on average) in settlements, depending on how populated with NPCs those settlements are. And the memory leaks definitely are reduced using said tweaks. I just make sure now to save before I approach any settlement just in case.

[lapis niche]

Is that with DLAA in a populated area? Because I was getting better performance than that on my 3070

[slow rain]

I honestly don’t mind the graphics being on low as long as the game is stable. The random stutters and frame drops going from 70fps to 2 was so annoying lol

[lost summit]

GUYS

[nimble cobalt]

With medium settings, I can still get about 70 to 90 fps

[lost summit]

I MANAGED TO SAVE IT. I don't how to go to swamp again. Save is after getting out of there

[lavish mason]

is the amd shader cache delete button even working? because when i navigate to the files location ,its full of PARC files from the past few weeks and several from today

[pseudo stream]

Where are the files?

[lavish mason]

I'll link once sec. So I manually deleted the 4 from today's date and the compiling shaders things is now at least slowly progressing,for now

[tidal sluice]

Will the 4060 ti 16gb do okay in this game?

[lavish mason]

Local disc, users, username, app data, local, AMD, DxCache

Of course it's fcking broke it now I've alt tabbed over to files

[rotund whale]

How well will this pc run stalker 2: Intel Core i7 1470OF - NVIDIA
GeForce RTX 4060 8GB - 32GB DDR5 RAM -
1TB NVMe

Can I get a stable 60fps

[tawny thicket]

To be fair that is the 1 channel of that type that isn't complete* BS

[hard arrow]

yes but careful at 4k, would recommend 1440p

[rotund whale]

Ty

[ionic coral]

so.. new patch dropped and now I crash on compiling shaders. (Done all the suggested tips). Is this a common issue after the new patch?

[hard arrow]

to run good at 4k it requires some tweaking but if you are fine with 1440p, you wont have many issues , mostly

[rotund whale]

Yeah 1440p is fine I just heard Redditors shit talk my 4060 saying it can’t run s2 I got it for next to free so for me the best kind of graphics card is a free one

[hard arrow]

usually when patch drop, some users gets start up crashes, either files not verify, something related to cache, driver cache, it depends on each system

[rare temple]

Can be. Did you also verify your game files? For me, in PC Game Pass, it crashed compiling after the update. I then verified the game files and tried again and it worked the second time.

[ionic coral]

I did verify files. Guess i'll try a fresh install

[hard arrow]

nah it runs but try not to max the graphics out, 4060 its not high end gpu , its powerful mid gpu

[rotund whale]

Yup. Thanks again. Also did they fix that stick drift bug I heard about. I plan to play with controller

[rare temple]

Did you clear the shader cache and try again? Sometimes multiple tries clears the cobwebs. I would hate to see you have to reinstall if not necessary.

[ionic coral]

oooo, no I did not. lemme do that first 😛

[spare coral]

Yeah some people also got that (me included) nothing the others said fixed it for me
I also verified the files

[rare temple]

Also, remove ANY mods, period before letting the shader cache recompile. You might also have to start a new game if your saves used mods (especially those that are in PAK format).

[agile harbor]

Not me zipping up my save directory before any major game update...

[wintry needle]

I have the GOG version and after each patch installation so far, the game refused to run/crashed, but after a PC reboot it worked first time

[hearty pollen]

Ugh, virtually all mods are PAK, Including the misc performance mods I've tested out. Are you saying those can break my save?

[rare temple]

It's a possibility depending on how they moded the game. Your mileage may very. You might get lucky and see no ill-effects. Or, depending on what the mod did, such as modify A-Life, it could have detrimental effects on things. No one knows for sure. I would say to be safe, just start a new game in a new slot to test things out in vanilla mode to make sure everything works (no mods, no engine.ini modifications). Then you can slowly add them back in, but again, with previous saves, who knows. That's basically true of any mods you do with most games.

[fading stone]

talking to arena barman freezed my game

[agile harbor]

I get in the habit of pulling open the Nexus page for the mod/mods I'm using before even launching the game after an update to A, check for updates to the mod itself for the new patch and B, check the comments from other users to see if anyone is having an issue.

Just seems like par for the course if you're going to mod a game

[drowsy lance]

So for me it’s been about a month, does the game run better with latest patch now or what.

[rare temple]

Depends and the patch just released a few hours ago. Gotta give it time, or else try it yourself. 🙂

[spare coral]

Ran about the same for me (the hour the game worked) but my pc is low end by today standars ***Rx 6700 i5 11400 ***

Now i need to wait for another patch and ill reinstall the game

[ionic coral]

Spoke to soon. it still crashes lol

[viral hatch]

Currently away from home is the patch 117 GB? That’s incredibly excessive

[sand pagoda]

Idk why people are complaining about the size of the patch. They're fixing the game lmao. Would you rather it be a smaller patch with less content and fixes?

[viral hatch]

That doesn’t answer my question, is it 117?

[sand pagoda]

its 110 gb on steam

[viral hatch]

Okay thank you

[ionic pollen]

they have a "lazy" patching system it seems, meaning they simply override the .paks that are affected, instead of actually "patching" them with only what has changed. The latter is not so common any more, due to it being much more complicated to do. So this means that you have 2gb .pak file and changed one 5mb animation file in it, you will add teh entire 2gb .pak file to patch.

[viral hatch]

Does that add 117 to the already 155GB or does it replace the files already stored on my computer can’t be arsed having a game that takes up nearly 300gb I don’t know much about PC no hate please

[ionic pollen]

it most certainly will replace files, not add new ones. 99% sure, still DL'ing myself tho.

[viral hatch]

Alright thank you very much for your time

[sand pagoda]

I see. Thank you for the explanation. I guess my internet is too fast for me to really care how big things are. I see how that could be annoying for some

[ionic pollen]

back in the day when you downloaded files with 44kbit/s modem connection they had to use smarter patching and only deliver changes that were changed, not entire things, but today it's much simpler to just replace the entire thing.

this is what the word "patch" in this context means and what patching means in software development. Nowadays they don't really "patch" anything, rather just replace some files, although some companies may still do so for various practical reasons. MMORPG's / MMO's that have long lifecycles generally still use actual patching because they need to pay for their own infra and it costs money to have huge patches delivered frequently.

[sand pagoda]

interesting! had no idea. That's pretty cool

[agile harbor]

If you wanna get nerdy about it: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/sdk/uploading

Assuming they're using SteamPipe

[sand pagoda]

Also for those who are wondering, looks like Mutant Loot and Project itemization mods still work with the patch (kind of) the only thing I'm noticing is that the names of the items are now incorrect and are riddled with underscores.

[broken sage]

Im looking fir this answer too

[obsidian linden]

I use 1660 super, and there are people having memory leaks and drops to 5 fps like me, but there are also people running on same rig and not having them, is it really vram then or what?

[graceful stratus]

all my saves now dosent work with big update

[broken sage]

Just saw a youtube on the optimization comparison. Doesnt seem to be much of a different from the last patch

Though it is stable

[agile harbor]

Its been out for a few hours. All I've done is spent time in here listening and reading and I have a pretty good idea of whats changed performance wise and that's not much.

Reading the patch notes, that shouldn't be surprising.

They're clearly putting more effort into fixing bugs in the gameplay itself right now.

[broken sage]

Yeah, I was looking at some comparison video for a 3070 and its not much either. At least compared to the last patch, it is better since launch

[high quarry]

Finally home, straight to a 22 min patch download

[graceful stratus]

<ErrorMessage>LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private\Containers\Array.cpp] [Line: 8] Trying to resize TArray to an invalid size of 4139977867</ErrorMessage>

someone have a road to make saves working ?

[hearty pollen]

Looking at the patch notes, while it's a lovely piece of work and all respect to the devs for this, I'm honestly mildly irritated that 30xx gpus got a fix, but not 40xx when the issue is more or less the same. Ffs

[vapid wigeon]

Well they said the 30 series fix was for those who wanted to use FSR lol Odd but eh.. what ever. They didn't address actual DLSS/FG being the issue with 30 and 40 series.

[spring pulsar]

I don't have a problem with my 3080ti - I do have a problem downloading the patch... which looks like a good thing - is it really that bad?

[vapid wigeon]

Drum roll that boils down to just Nvidia issues driver sided, windows, or your system really.

[hearty pollen]

My god. That's the damn fix?! God damn

[vapid wigeon]

Curious, how many of you are using Windows 11 24H2?

Microsoft put out a warning about updating to it for gamers yesterday, an official thing.

[agile harbor]

I find it hard to blame the game running poorly on nvidia driver issues. The game wasn't done, like most games today.

[high quarry]

"But my system runs just fine on Valorant/Minecraft/CS/Solitaire"

[vapid wigeon]

My dude.. considering Nvidia users are having the worst time ever, its safe now at this point to point the finger more realiably, im sorry.

[agile harbor]

And sure, I guess when 90+% of the playerbase has one type of GPU, it can sure seem like a driver issue but that's just short sighted.

[fallen pond]

Is it me or is input latency a little more noticeable after patch?

[high quarry]

It's still hard to pin down which people are having legit game issues, vs NVIDIA issues, vs system config issues vs system instability issues..

[spring pulsar]

Do you folks recommend installing the patch? I've tried several times, but I get a "Not Enough Free Dosk Space" error, despite having 200gb free 🤔

[vapid wigeon]

True to an extent. Nvidia vs AMD vs Intel all handle driver over head differently, so.

[compact stone]

Anyone else still crashing at compiling shaders even after verifying files and resetting gpu shaders?

[agile harbor]

Strongly disagree. I don't think you're able to see the whole picture. Making a stance like this with no technical information other than "you hear from lots of Nvidia users possibly because thats what most people have" is just not sound science.

[vapid wigeon]

Mean while 90% of the AMD users reporting with zero issue, kinda has a large say so.

[high quarry]

I cant quite reach 200fps on my AMD 7800XT, does that count?

[agile harbor]

I mean, there are AMD users in this chat right now with issues. That's like a large percentage of their entire playerbase. This line of reasoning is just silly.

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah and they're in the realm of 8/12gb vram as most stated.

[spring pulsar]

I have an issue, but no one is listening 😦

[vapid wigeon]

I'm still doing fine since launch lol and this morning, any minute now, I got a 7900 XTX Taichi OC on the way, so that 7900 XT is being put to bed. 😄

[agile harbor]

The point is, you simply have zero data to point at Nvidia's drivers as the "cause" for problems. I'm also not saying I know where it is, other than the game itself.

[vapid wigeon]

The proof is literally as I've posted about before.. UE dev forums.

They all complain CONSTANTLY about DLSS being a major issue on both 40 and 30 series

[high quarry]

Thats what I need, so I can play 220fps, or 140 native.

[vapid wigeon]

And they mention stability in general. so...

[agile harbor]

And everyone that complains has Nvidia isn't a valid reason when the vast majority of people do. I'm sorry if you don't understand that.

I've got 110 hours in the game with DLSS so I don't sympathize.

[vapid wigeon]

I got lucky as hell! NewEgg posted another open box one for $770. The moment I saw it SOLD! lol

[inner pawn]

how do i know what version of windows 11 do i have?

[high quarry]

Start>Run>winver

[vapid wigeon]

If you've got 24H2 thats a major issue right now. Glad I didnt update! But yeah.

[inner pawn]

it says window 23H2

[vapid wigeon]

Ah good, DO NOT update lol

[high quarry]

24H2 has been good to me

[maiden cedar]

Yes, crashed once while loading a save, now it keeps crashing in shader compilation

[agile harbor]

Yep, its fine.

[vapid wigeon]

24H2 has an issue for mostly intel core and 40 series, Microsoft put out a few notes on it.

HOW EVER, also this week, intel and amd both put out patches fixing core scheduling for anyone who didn't know.

AMD got a slight boost on both 7/9 series for AM5, and Intel core is fixed pretty damn well now.

[ionic pollen]

Ah shader compilation rears its ugly head again. This time it really seems stuck, usually it eats entire cpu, now it's idling at 10% cpu use and bar is not moving :*(

[high quarry]

chipset driver?

[vapid wigeon]

Nah, Bios updates from both. Microcode

[agile harbor]

A common thread this morning.

[high quarry]

Ah yeh, waiting for first none beta for my x870 now

[vapid wigeon]

Should have one, I know it hit mine this week. But I'm using a 650 board, The gigabyte Aero G.

[ionic pollen]

is there a known workaround or tricks to get it running, or just "let it run"?

[agile harbor]

Multiple people posting its an issue, not seeing any confirmed solutions.

[lavish mason]

Can't find one yet to be honest. Just freezes after a while

[high quarry]

latest is on AGESA PI-1.2.02b

[hearty pollen]

So, if i got this right... by this logic, if everyone had a nvidia gpu, and a issue occurs, it doesnt matter since... y'know... everyone has the same brand and thus issues will occur?

[agile harbor]

Been waiting for that, just checked and its now available for me.

[zenith iris]

White to search bar Windows clean disc, select C: And delete shader direct cache

[vapid wigeon]

They kind of missed the mark. LOL Given the marjoriy are Nvidia users.... And the majority are having issues in these games.. yet the minority reporting with AMD having nearly no issues... Kinda narrows it down with the larger majority show casing the Nvidia spot light very well that its... AN NVIDIA ISSUE MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

[lavish mason]

I've also tried deleting shader cache files manually. The adrenaline option to reset cache doesn't seem to do anything. This actually gets the compiler bar moving.
Whether it completes though idk. What Instantly makes it fail/freeze for me is switching to another window or program. So far it'll slowly compile as long as I stare at it and only it.

[agile harbor]

This is moving the argument a little bit because beyond just the massive imbalance originally being discussed, we're glossing over the qualifications of random joe gamer to identify that broken game is broken specifically because of a GPU vendors driver or the developers of said broken game.

[agile harbor]

So anytime someone makes claims like this this early on with no valid data its always a little like.. yeah, ok.

[vapid wigeon]

keeps enjoying game whilst using AMD #GigaChad

[lavish mason]

It's vurkink! Ze bar. Ze compiler bar ist movink

[agile harbor]

🤷‍♂️ I'm about to finish my first playthrough here with an Nvidia card averaging 120ish fps at 4K Epic. I don't know what this hashtag is, all these companies suck.

[lavish mason]

Do not, friends, become a cheerleader for capital

[hearty pollen]

There is at least strong indications here that something funky is going with the Nvidia/Ue4 or 5 with DLSS. In my opinion you have to have blindfolds to disagree. Anything solid to point at? no. Probable its on nvidias end? yes.

[ionic pollen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1hhufh5/potential_fix_for_shader_compilation/

[lavish mason]

M8 that same funkiness, or another smeary awfully running funkiness is happening on AMD, don't worry

[agile harbor]

I can only use my own experience. Anything else is just guessing / making things up to further an agenda (that I don't have).

[austere crane]

holy s**tballs, a stalker walked in and actually stood at the bar. the future of gaming is now

[lavish mason]

Game of the century

[hearty pollen]

No, not really. FSR is firstly overall more stable in ue4/5 and while it typically has lower performance, its open source.

[lavish mason]

It's pretty ugly though

[agile harbor]

That's a strong claim. I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand how you can come to the conclusion.

[lavish mason]

His sourceis he made it the fck up dot gif

[hearty pollen]

I need some clarification, what i got from this is "implying anything without 100% irrefutable evidence" is having a agenda? It cant be that logically something seems off and can be worthwhile investigating/digging into?

[jovial dagger]

Hey guys is anybody stucking for a long time in the loading screen? It says compiling shaders and its 50% finish (no freezing screen, its just loading)

[agile harbor]

All I care about is data, hard facts, from people who know what they're talking about with knowledge of the code and how it works. We're just all random joe gamers here so we can't possibly say anything with any sort of truth. "A vibe" from reading support forum posts is great, but not good enough. Its not solving a problem, just potentially adding to misinformation being spread.

[grim briar]

I cant tell if its stuck or just takin g5ever

[jovial dagger]

I have a RTX 3050 TI, I think it should usually work (16 GB RAM, 4 GB VRAM and Intel i7 processor)

[grim briar]

I have a 6950xt, 5800x3d and its definitely stuck

it used to take 5/10 minuts every time in the past anyway which was partiually why I stopped playing, assumed it was a bug

[jovial dagger]

Damn... Do u have any idea how to fix that? I reinstalled the game once for this patch

[stable kite]

huh? 24H2 broken for games?

[agile harbor]

no

[wintry needle]

ahhahahaha 🤣 patch 1.1 is so fkn large, GOG doesn't even offer a patch from 1.0.3 to 1.1 --- I need to straight up dl the whole game lmao 😆

[grim briar]

i didnt reinstall but I did update my GPU drivers since I last played at around launch.... so its a fresh shader compile - I have no idea how to fix it

[jovial dagger]

Well.. there we go. I found the problem

Kinda sus that NVIDIA has not told me to update

[hearty pollen]

The biggest problem is games, but overall 24h2 is a buggy mess and should be avoided at all costs

[bold pier]

4gb VRAM is insane I feel for you

[regal gull]

Compiling shaders is stuck for me too after update, no issues before. Radeon 6800

[jovial dagger]

Real but its playable somehow

[lavish mason]

I upgraded to this via a windows live screen share as my windows refused to do this, only on wednesday

30 minutes later it hit me with the watermark and said my copy of windows isn't genuine.

It's been working fine, is genuine and registered for over 2 years

[hearty pollen]

I hope it doesnt F up for you. I will wait it out.

[lavish mason]

Back on to Microsoft and they just kept saying "error code says not valid, contact your retailer" like

So yeah, don't upgrade to it

[hearty pollen]

I wonder what's MS stance on "eyepatch" software on legit windows version is?

[lavish mason]

yeah after a few hours wasted watching them repeat the same steps id done before contacting them, i just asked a mate, who game me a one line github line to run in powershell

solved all my issues in 20 seconds. Fck microsoft

[hearty pollen]

Yeah thats what i was thinking about. Considering its a genuine copy i cant really see how that is wrong in any shape or form

[lavish mason]

so it was OG a genuine copy of like windows 7, repeatedly freebee upgraded. then i think i purchased a pro 11 upgrade from home. i assume this is classed as dodgy but meh,

if it wasnt genuine why did it register as fine on 22h2 for 2 years

[hearty pollen]

Dodgy in what sense? the free upgrade path is given from MS themself

[lavish mason]

the upgrade key from 11 home to 11 pro i paid for

[hearty pollen]

aha!

[lavish mason]

yeah, annoying.

[hearty pollen]

how much is it for a w11 pro key?

[lavish mason]

when i checked after the chat, they wanted something abhortrent like 220 quid

[hearty pollen]

......

[lavish mason]

pretty sure my upgrade key was like £15 2 years ago

scam company

[hearty pollen]

Yeeeah that's surely within the realms of shady.

[lavish mason]

possibly, but it worked and they were fine with it for 2 years and a quater

[austere crane]

let me give you a link to something that will save your behind some day w/ Windows activation BS... https://massgrave.dev/

[lavish mason]

i wont be buying keys ever again for them. roll on Steam OS

[lavish mason]

thats exactly what i was linked, it just works!

[hearty pollen]

Typically, serial key bans goes in waves. If it was ilegally acquired with some kinda credit card scam/backcharge etc etc, theoretically your current key could be a part of a batch. Probably not, but

[lavish mason]

probably a commercial liscence from some company gone bust

[agile harbor]

If this occurred after an update, it was likely a single use gray market OEM key. Major platform updates can cause those to stop working.

[high quarry]

Hmm yeh.
No mods
No Engine.ini
Shader cache cleared.

Sill got stuck on Compiling Shaders.
Reboot time.

[lavish mason]

that they dont wanna honour or transfer. or yeah, Grey market OEM key

[hearty pollen]

admittedly most of my windows keys are shady af, but havent experienced this. Interesting, something to note.

[agile harbor]

Hm, good to know. That's what I was going to do before attempting a launch later tonight. Still will, anyway. Along with making an archive of my save game directory.

[lavish mason]

never not go shady in future after this experience, me

[high quarry]

Actually, let me manually delete shader cache files, that will prob do it

[lavish mason]

i did that

it made the line move a bit

[high quarry]

I had just done disk cleanup dx cache and reset cache in adrenaline.

[lavish mason]

same, reset cache in adrenalyne clearly doesnt delete anything though

[high quarry]

Seems to be compiling now

[agile harbor]

I bet we'll see another hotfix before the day is out.

[high quarry]

It's already 7pm

[lavish mason]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/LmSlAMRAvpYAAAAd/for-now-limmy.gif

[high quarry]

its 40% done

[lavish mason]

crossing all my fingers and toes for ya

[high quarry]

Right when you said that, it stopped spinning/flashing...

[ionic pollen]

reset cache from adrenaline definitely did something for me, it is at least progressing, thought might take a loong time, like it did first time.

[high quarry]

yeh, crash

Same as others got:
LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\RenderingThread.cpp] [Line: 1273] GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs

[ionic pollen]

why are all gpu software such turds nowadays? For a long time ppl laughed at amd for having crappy software, but now the new nvidia app apparently is absolute turdpie as well. Getting worse and worse. In the good ol days we had ugly native windows forms applications which were hideous to look at but you know what, they did their thing!

[high quarry]

NVIDIA one seems good, except the fact the overlay for the filters tanks fps 😄

relaunched, about 60% done now

I put GPU clocks all stock, since it was a render thread that stalled

[ionic pollen]

I like amd hardware and really want to support them as a company, but adrenaline really is a massive pile of fecal matter. Half of the time i can't even get it to open, and if I do, some feature is always broken.

[wintry needle]

52 minutes left to download... after a fckin fight close quarters hand to hand combat with GOG Galaxy... this thing is NOT ready for prime time 😦

[high quarry]

nope, got stuck again at about 70% 😄

ill wait for the 2 min timeout and keep going I guess

[agile harbor]

keep going, you got this

[spare coral]

Yep i managed to enter the game once in like 3 hours of trying lol

And then it crashed after playing for half an hour

[tired pollen]

any have this issue after the update that when you turn around to fast then everything is too dark?

[high quarry]

This shader issue def didnt exist before patch for me.

[spare coral]

So i got stuck again and i guess the only thing left to try is uninstalling the game and reinstalling

[high quarry]

I compiled shaders fresh dozens of times a day

[agile harbor]

No, and you're not alone. Every few minutes someone is popping in with this problem.

[spare coral]

We dont know what is causing it

[wintry needle]

hmmm learning from the above.... I have to make sure this yoke is installed in a new folder 👀 I'm NOT overwriting the existing working install

[ionic pollen]

eh, I guess qa skipped at least one test.

[agile harbor]

ya know, running it

[high quarry]

on relaunching it shoots up back to where it was anyway

[wintry needle]

"But it works on my machine..!"

[high quarry]

Was wondering if it was overheating CPU, but its only 75C

[agile harbor]

when it stalls, are you seeing CPU usage drop to idle?

[high quarry]

yeh, since it stops doing anything, CPU is waiting for 'render thread'

[spare coral]

Yep, it just stops working the CPU

[high quarry]

compile complete.

but immediate crash when loading save

[agile harbor]

oh boy

[spare coral]

Time to compile again

[high quarry]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000022758c70550

Ill try some other saves first

[agile harbor]

You know what, I might just skip playing this tonight and continue with Indiana Jones. That plays beautifully in full Path traced mode. 😆 Hopefully this gets cleared up by 1.2

[ionic pollen]

got one crash due to renderThread timeout, but now at 75%

[high quarry]

mine does a quick compiling for 10 seconds, and to menu

[sand nimbus]

Constant Updates on existing installations break them. You need to fully reinstall

[high quarry]

loading an early save
immediate crash, not save related

im gonna set everything to medium, and let it compile that fresh

[next terrace]

given the track record 1.2 will come in late january lmao

[next terrace]

that does not fix the issue

[boreal osprey]

hi, i just installed patch and shaders loading screen stops at 50% anyone knows why?

[sand nimbus]

Well then they broke the game. Gratz

[next terrace]

that they did

[boreal osprey]

oh it even crashed lol

[next terrace]

because they broke the game with the new patch, classic gsc

[agile harbor]

just stick around, you can join everyone else discussing the same thing

[high quarry]

Wait, theres a patch diff issue? Full reinstall fixes it?

[grim briar]

I can't get past the compile lol

[sand nimbus]

Broken patch, not worth playing rn . Game broken more

[jovial dagger]

Updating the driver fixes it

[ionic pollen]

compilation done, but now need to restart because of course it had all epic settings 🙄 having deleted save folder

[high quarry]

I know about the crashing issue, but wondering if its due to a patching issue vs full install.

[sand nimbus]

I already told you everything you need to know

[high quarry]

I am compiling shaders again now on Medium to see if that does annything, medium, no upscale, no framegen

Nope, crashes in exactly the same place, like maybe one of the shader files is corrupt..

[spare coral]

Time to reinstall to test it

[rare temple]

I didn't have to re-install. I had an issue with compiling shaders where it crashed. I then went and cleared DirectX cache, and also deleted the cache file that was located in %LOCALAPPDATA%\stalker2\Saved (PC Game Pass version), and it worked fine for me. I did do a verify install files from the PC Xbox App as well. I haven't had to re-install the game since I installed it day one. I did start a clean game today too with no mods (removing both PAK and and .ini file mods I installed) and the game worked. I then reinstalled my main engine.ini mod since I'm running a GTX-1660, and the game is running nice for me.

But it does seem to be an issue for various people, but not all, with the shader compilation crashing.

[high quarry]

I have gigabit, ill be the ginuea pig

[grim briar]

im onthe latest

[jovial dagger]

Have you reinstalled the game after the patch?

[high quarry]

ill delete the local app data folder too, so its full fresh

[spare coral]

I even ddu my drivers and installed the latest one

[grim briar]

lol no is that the fix?

[ionic pollen]

maybe use steam verify files first before reinstalling. That does pretty much same thing.

[high quarry]

ill try a verify first

[spare coral]

Did it twice and didnt fix it

[ionic pollen]

also remove all mods!

[sand nimbus]

It doesnt remove borked / mod files

[grim briar]

im on gamepass / xbox windows app so alreayd tried

[rare temple]

I did the same thing, but mine is via PC Game Pass, so I verified the files within the PC Xbox App after the first crash of compiling and it worked and I haven't had an issue since.

[high quarry]

thinking about what I changed outside of mods folder, was fsr dlls

so, first ill just delete those, then verify

[spare coral]

I didnt change anything and it got borked anyway

[rare temple]

FYI, this patch includes FSR 3.1 now.

[high quarry]

yeh, but I had manually put 3.1 files there before

[rare temple]

Yes, that's why I'm saying they've updated to FSR 3.1 with this latest patch so you don't have to do that anymore. 😄

[grim briar]

meh ill try reinstall, at least I got that 1gb internet

[sand nimbus]

Colesy seems to be a bit blinded by the lights

[high quarry]

Why, just because I am trying smaller steps before full reinstall?

[flat brook]

How dare you try and be logical about this?

[ionic pollen]

don't worry, brute force is always an option, but it's ok try and be smart.

[high quarry]

I have no mods, no Engine.ini, I had cleared shader cache
This is the last thing to try before full reinstall.

Verify is almost done.

[late ferry]

makanda has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pseudo stream]

Any news from the devs on this issue?

[ionic pollen]

deleting my config and save folder worked for me. Maybe it didn't like my graphics settings, since the game defaults to Epic, it makes me think there's a reason, like it really wants to compile all the epic shaders first.

[sand nimbus]

To someone technically versed the steps are absolutely not logical. I don't want him to waste time

Hey i like him okay

[high quarry]

Mine were already all on Epic

[flat brook]

The steps he’s taking are logical, you don’t immediately hit the purge button on a 150GB folder.

Deleting bits and pieces, verifying files, clearing end-user changes are all logical steps before throwing the entire installation in the bin

[high quarry]

@sand nimbus its 5-10 mins, its fine 😄

[ionic pollen]

save game loaded, running ok. Flawless widescreen still works as well.

[high quarry]

if shader compile gets stuck at 75% or whatever it did again, ill just do the reinstall

[rare temple]

No as this latest patch just released this morning.

[stark iron]

How to fix saves

[sand nimbus]

The shader thing is a issue that happens also on Linux on various proton versions, its not in our hand to fix the broken 1.1 patch

[spare coral]

They only told me to verify the files and nothing else

[flat brook]

I wonder what causes it, mine went through per usual

[sand nimbus]

I agree really odd

[rare temple]

There have been many suggestions, but they don't seem to work for everyone. For me, before I started the game up, I did the following:

1. Verified my files in PC Xbox App first.
2. Went %localappdata%\stalker2\Saved and deleted the shader cache file there.
3. Others have also suggested to do a Windows search for "Disk Cleanup" and launch that application and tell it to clear out the DirectX Shader Cache as well.
4. Removed all mods (both PAK and any INI file tweaks).
5. When I launched, the first time it did hang. I killed it via task manager and tried again and it worked for me the second time. No issues since.
6. Started a brand new game, not using a previous save. I want to have a session that was not saved due to mods and ini file tweaks just to be sure I was running as clean as possible.
7. Someone else said after a reboot after doing all the above fixed it for them.

Since then, no issues. Performance seems better, but I'm on a GTX-1660 so performance is not great out-of-the-box anyways. Once I found that the game seemed better, I re-installed my QMQZ Peak mod and I'm back to 60 FPS out in the zone.

[high quarry]

yeh, exactly the same place again

which points to it being a specific file/s.

[flat brook]

Hearing people say it’s still not done after 36 minutes while mine zoomed through in less than 1 is really weird to hear

[sand nimbus]

Does the cpu usage still peg to 100 during shader compile @high quarry

[wintry needle]

wow very interesting! instead of 1.1, the version GOG offers is 1.0.669 🤣
file name is setup_s.t.a.l.k.e.r._2_heart_of_chornobyl_1.0.669_(78596).exe

[rare temple]

Agree. I'm on a lowly Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX-1660 and it finished in about 2 to 3 minutes after the update after the first initial crash that happened.

[rare temple]

GOG uses a different numbering system for their versions I think. Must be internal to GOG.

[sand nimbus]

Have you actually gotten to the main menu once @high quarry

[high quarry]

yes

[sand nimbus]

Id say if its hit or miss but you finished it once, disable shader warmup

[wintry needle]

also: while 1.0.3 was 153.9 GB, 1.1 seems to be only 140.4 GB
I mean the full download

[high quarry]

after the shaders all compiled it went to menu every time

[pseudo stream]

I've done that, but for me It hasn't fixed the bug. What I know is that before the patch it worked fine without mods or anything else

[flat brook]

I was playing automation in the background when I launched S2, besides the CPU screaming towards 100% usage, initial shader compilation was done in a minute or less

No weird hiccups or anything

[high quarry]

uninstalled from steam, steam exited, appdata folder deleted, shader cache deleted

Time to start fresh

[sand nimbus]

Disable shader warmup

[high quarry]

I can try that after, now downloading 135.4GB

[bold pier]

Godspeed

[high quarry]

28 mins remaining

I do wish Steam would stay at 800mbps sustained, it keeps hitting it and dropping to 700 repeatedly

[flat brook]

Might be writing to disk when that happens?

[high quarry]

its always writing to disk

[sand nimbus]

Lmao

[high quarry]

it does flush, but flushing at 1gbps while its still hitting 800mbps
Bump graph is bumpy...
https://i.imgur.com/LtEldA3.png

[sand nimbus]

It will never sustain these high numbers

[flat brook]

One hell of a rollercoaster

[high quarry]

It maintained 802-808 for a solid 2 mins then before dropping 😄

[dire lion]

110gb patch💀

[high quarry]

It is about as power intensive as shader compiling itself, CPU hitting 100W+ 😄

[sand nimbus]

Yeah the internet is so fast it bottlenecks the other parts

[high quarry]

750 mbps = 35% CPU
830 mbps = 45% CPU 😄

[ionic pollen]

stashes on minimap are different color now! Totally worth it!

[lavish mason]

All I know is patch 1.1 never had the makings of a varsity athlete

[high quarry]

I do wish sometimes I could hide a stash from map

[ionic pollen]

just loot it, then drop the junk

[spare coral]

Get the stash and it would go away

[rare temple]

Also, when comparing weapons in your inventory against what you have equipped, now you can tell which is which (in inventory or equipped). It also identifies it as Primary or Secondary weapon, and has a cool card flip animation as you switch between primary and secondary weapon when comparing.

https://youtu.be/tvKMegB85rg

[high quarry]

many are behind places I cant get into still

i tend to go checkout stashes in a region before following storyline so I uncover the locations 😄

69GB downloaded, 50%

[ionic pollen]

and gas masks actually have the proper stats as well, I can finally switch from the starting mask, before everything was worse 😄

but the item weights... argh I might have to mod those myself. I can't get over bread weighs 300 grams, sausage 400 grams and a can of tuna 400 grams. It's like each of those is an entire meal. Ok maybe you spend more calories in the zone but still, that's a massive sausage!

[lavish mason]

Skiff and his tapeworm get hungry

[high quarry]

Yeh, just make a .pak with those 10% weight

[ionic pollen]

fsr 3.1 has the infamous white dot artefacts. I guess it's back to TSR.

[high quarry]

Download done.
Time to recrash the shaders..
Compile.. I mean recompile..

[wintry needle]

my installation is not finished yet

[high quarry]

I'm not even gonna tab out of it.

[wintry needle]

that's what she said last night 👀

do not bother carrying anything but canned food
bread and sausage doesn't decrease hunger that much, and sausage is the same weight too!?

[high quarry]

Still compiling...

I can't tell if the bar is moving to though, and this is where it timed out before.

[wintry needle]

also lol @ tuna 🤣 we wish it was tuna... by the looks of it, it's probably mutant boar or Flesh

[ionic pollen]

well when you close your eyes and believe hard enough, it may as well be tuna. Whatever keeps you sane.

[high quarry]

The icon is still spinning and the text flashing, so I'll leave it...

[wintry needle]

such is life in the Zone

[high quarry]

It def seems stuck, but not crashed/thread timed out, hmmm.

[ionic pollen]

it will crash with renderThread timeout if it really gets stuck for long, i'd just leave it hanging until it does, then restart again if it crashes.

[high quarry]

and it still writing to \AppData\Local\GameAnalytics\ga.sqlite3-journal

but no other files

[vapid wigeon]

Just put in the xtx boyssss now testing stalker again. And yeah shader cache is fine. No reinstalls or anything lol

[wintry needle]

compiling now, wish me luck yall

[high quarry]

last shader cache write seems to be
\AppData\Local\AMD\DxCache\438014c881d6198f.4a79311e3a35db4a.7b1f799a.dad1858.2.parc

[sand pagoda]

the new "A-life" changes seem pretty awesome so far. Just watched a pack of flesh's crest a hill and charge off into the distance behind me. Had to crouch low and avoid being seen

[waxen vessel]

looks like im in the same boat as you colesy my progress is stuck as well

[lavish mason]

I leaned a pen up on the screen where the bar was to confirm I'm not going insane

[vapid wigeon]

The moment I spawned in there was war 😂 it's very close to being fully legit now. Love it

[high quarry]

im also getting writes out to:
C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\amdfendr.inf_amd64_05bfde18331c4d58\AMD\EeuDumps

[spare coral]

Lucky

[wintry needle]

haha mine progressed about 40-50 pixels maybe? it's 4 times the width of my mouse cursor, and it's stuck there now
'Compiling shaders' is flashing and the rad logo is spinning

GPU is at full revs, pushing 312 fps 🤣 99% utilised

[high quarry]

Yeh, what is interesting is, I got some shader cache files VERY slowly, minutes after I thought it was stuck

but I cant be sure they are S2 cache..

[waxen vessel]

how are you monitoring whats being written out?

[wintry needle]

CPU is 16% tops... usually between 12-14% 😦 it doesn't even boost

[high quarry]

%windir%\system32\perfmon.exe /res

not seen any cache file activity for 8 mins, so I think it really is stuck now

[lavish mason]

That him. That's Bill Windows

[wintry needle]

that's Mr William Windows for you

[lavish mason]

Billy Pane

[vapid wigeon]

I noticed one odd thing, they removed fsr 3 fg option. Was gonna see how far I could push the fps out of curiosity. Previously fsr 3 FG was there to enable

[rare temple]

That's because they updated it to FSR 3.1.

[spare coral]

They updated it to fsr3.1 and it was there for me

[vapid wigeon]

Yes and fsr 3.1 has FG so it's odd I didn't see it

[high quarry]

relaunched, it went straight into writing:

\AppData\Local\AMD\DxcCache\107ca3ca1c03a1c9.1e77124ec21269b5.f5cd4141.87672893.0.parc
\AppData\Local\AMD\DxcCache\107ca3ca1c03a1c9.1e77124ec21269b5.7963d102.bb2d92cd.0.parc

[ionic pollen]

yeah the option is weirld renamed to just FSR 3.1 and is missing the FG characters.

[vapid wigeon]

No, FG is legit just gone. It's not enabled by default with just selecting fsr.

You can see it in the game files. Odd.

[high quarry]

Now the progress bar is approaching the ~75% place it was getting stuck before

[spare coral]

Weird can you show a screenshot cause it was there for me when my game actually worked

[wintry needle]

ooooh @high quarry thanks for the inspiration, I force stopped it and relaunched and it went past that problematic point immediately

[stark iron]

Save crashed after 40 hours bruh

[high quarry]

it went all the way to the end that time

[ionic pollen]

FSR framegen in options on 1.1. https://pasteboard.co/VHBPClIpAsbC.png

[high quarry]

Yes, my framegen is just called FSR 3.1 now

[unreal moss]

Guys I can't compile the shaders on my RX 580

[rare temple]

It's there. Upscaling method setting is to set it to FSR 3.1, XeSS, etc. Then, three rows down or so, it says FSR 3.1 and that is the FG setting.

https://pasteboard.co/FsctyukAuxu0.jpg

[stable kite]

omg just arrived at rostok and was at 30 fps, with FG 3.1 up to 90 lol, there is a input lag but not much it is much better then the last FG now. Using 3060

[high quarry]

still cant load previous save, instant crash. Full game reinstall didnt help at all.

[regal gull]

is there any "solution" out there for the shaders being stuck? read through and tested some stuff but nothing seems to help

[spare coral]

Time to start a new game

[regal gull]

oh damn, if saves don't work I can wait for next patch...

[spare coral]

We all are trying to get a definitive fix but most are stuck

[wintry needle]

force stop the game process and start it again, it seems to work for me so far
i.e. it gets stuck, I stop/restart, it blasts past that point straight away

[spare coral]

I got into the game once and my save worked but its broken for some people

[unreal moss]

Didn't work for me, even though I also ran the game as an admin, cleared DirectX Shaders cache in the system and removed shader files from appdata

[waxen vessel]

is it me or is the flashlight brightness buffed

[high quarry]

yeh, every single save is instant crash for me

[unreal moss]

So idk, this patch is just plain terrible

[high quarry]

Starting new game, to see if that runs

[regal gull]

feel free to share how it goes even though it's not in my interest to start over

[wintry needle]

OK I got to the menu on the 3rd try

time to feed a save to the Beast and see how it goes 👀

[regal gull]

awesome, now steam is down

[cold rose]

is there any way to help with the object pop in oris that just how it is for now

[vapid wigeon]

Nah steam is up, but they are having issues. I noticed some store pages show error and literal html code lol

[high quarry]

new save seems to work

[wintry needle]

my old save works flawlessly

[waxen vessel]

some saves for me are long gone others are fine

[regal gull]

I got into the game after 6-7 tries being stuck in shader

and my save seemt to work, interesting times to be a gamer

thanks for all the help, hope to see you all in the zone 🙂

[flat brook]

Winter sale launched, store is overloaded

[sand nimbus]

Its not an issue in our hands

[ionic coral]

So.. my game kept crashing during compiling shaders. After alot of tries, what seemed to fix it was deleting the shaders in local appdata (tho tbh I just deleted everything, including saves) so... 🤷‍♂️

[high quarry]

Putting my Engine.ini back from last night

If it gets past Compiling shaders

seems ok:
https://i.imgur.com/jiQHSJg.jpeg

[plucky vapor]

I finally fixed my shaders getting stuck!
I had previously set the FPS cap in Stalker 2 options to 60fps. I noticed that I was getting a locked 60fps at the Compiling Shaders screen... So I went into the GameUserSettings.ini, and changed FrameRateLimit=60.00000 to FrameRateLimit=0.0

GPU utilization is now at 100% in compiling shaders, and the bar is slowly but steadily moving!

[summer stirrup]

Is there any reason the game takes forever to enter the options menu after the latest update?

It cranks up the reading on my OS SSD (game is installed on another ssd)

Could it be a shader cache thing?

[tame flare]

havent played for a long time, does the game still shit itself to 5 fps

[snow acorn]

I set anti-aliasing to low, however every time i restart the game it changes to medium, anyone know why?

[somber sorrel]

This is interesting, earlier today my shaders wouldnt compile, had to try like 6-7 times before it worked but now it failed again, cpu and gpu just fall to like 2% utilization and the game freezes, something is wrong for sure

[grim briar]

can confirm reinstalling the game fixed then deleting the DX cache and deleting my saved data folder in users/appdata/stalker 2/saved fixed the compile issues

[waxen vessel]

you backed up your saves tho or you starting fresh?

[grim briar]

I had only got to the first town really, the launch was too broken to justify playing

[vapid wigeon]

Still zero issues here.

How ever, I didn't wait for this whole update/patch, I just deleted and re-installed the game, FAR quicker that way. That 110gb patch would have taken ages with how UE updates.

If a lot of you have issues with shaders.. I suggest maybe that? lol

[versed star]

glad to open this discord and see that everyone is having issues with compiling issues, i was worried its an isolated AMD issue. hopefully hotfix soon

[vapid wigeon]

I've never had issues with compiling, amd here, so.

[versed star]

ive played since rel and it was fine

[vapid wigeon]

How ever, not to say I wouldn't have, I did as I say uninstall it this time to avoid the long patch time and just reinstall it.

[versed star]

now i updated and the compiling fails, game just crashes to desktop with some odd error code

[trim ermine]

I keep getting this error when trying to load my save game - LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private\Containers\Array.cpp] [Line: 8] Trying to resize TArray to an invalid size of 2504876572

Anyone else getting this?

[vapid wigeon]

IF there really is a compilation issue with AMD now, I can't say. It's fine atm.

How ever, I did just swap out to an XTX before trying the new update from an XT lol thus using amd clean up tool I re-did drivers.

SO if there is/was an issue, it was solved by either that (which in turn deals with cache) or it was the re-install of the game to avoid the long patch.

So bottom line, try either.

[versed star]

I reset the cache in the AMD software, no luck.

[vapid wigeon]

Then just re-install it

[versed star]

Re-install fixes it? 100%?

[high quarry]

I get random errors on my old saves, like they are just incompatible. I had to start a new game.

[versed star]

oof

[high quarry]

I did a full reinstall from steam, it didnt help anything.

[vapid wigeon]

I cant say, Ive not had this issue lol just saying what I've did this morning meaning.. I WOULDNT know if there was an issue. I didnt play the update until I did what I said

[versed star]

if my saves are incompatible.. thats just game over for me

[vapid wigeon]

My saves work fine

[high quarry]

Now I am back in Zalissya, at my monitors refresh rate:
https://i.imgur.com/Dlvx0nO.jpeg

[trim ermine]

Ah no thats not good, 106 hours into that game. No idea how far in the story i got. Cant start over lol

[vapid wigeon]

If you guys did any engine edits and those saved within the save file SOME HOW theres your issue.. just guessing

Like seriously, DO NOT modify the game. Just dont.

Not until its legit with actual SDK tools and such used.

Y'all don't need 390904892983772 FPS lmao

[high quarry]

I am frame capping to 159.2, with freesync on

[wintry needle]

my saves work, YMMV sir

then again I have the GOG version so... 🤷‍♂️

[lusty sluice]

I have the GOG version as well and I can't load a save second time because my game crashes to desktop

You're just lucky

[white stratus]

sorry just got into this discord. Anyone fixed the save game crash in loading screen with RTX graphics card?

[tawny thicket]

no one picked intel

and a higher percentage of people have voted AMD than in the steam hardware survey

[high quarry]

All my old saves crash, I started a new one, which is ok.

[white stratus]

A new game???

[high quarry]

yep

[white stratus]

I am 50 hours in, with half way through the story, so chance in hell I am going to restart a new save...

[tawny thicket]

😭

t be clear this hasnt happened to me yet

[waxen vessel]

yeah a lot of people have to reset their prog

[tawny thicket]

but that is crazy

[white stratus]

if that is true, I must say that is the most stupid update ever. That will let me turn the game on its side and never look at it again

it is not like I have massive seas of time on my hand.

[waxen vessel]

its unfortunate but only thing you can do is keep trying to fix your issue or just wait til next patch to see what happens

[tawny thicket]

also condolences on your progress R.I.P.

[white stratus]

ill wait for a hotfix... I will give them the benefit of th doubt... guess its POE2 for now

[hearty pollen]

Same, soon finished with the download, i pray it works

[unkempt perch]

You need to think about doing manual backup of saves to avoid such problems. I recommend using robocopy to automate the process

[white stratus]

well one of my friends was able to load this afternoon, another friend was just playing for a couple of hours, he just crashed out of the game twice

[white stratus]

why manual backup, its not like my saves are gone though

I have them backed up just fyi

[alpine star]

I'm still getting memory leaks and massive frame drops in settlements, is that still the general consensus? I know they mentioned performance improvements for settlements but it hasn't seemed much better from my end

[white stratus]

before this patch, after the previous patch that was fixed for me though.

[hearty pollen]

You do? F***. What kinda hardware?

[nocturne tundra]

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\RenderingThread.cpp] [Line: 1273] GameThread timed out waiting for RenderThread after 120.00 secs

Stalker2_Win64_Shipping

kernel32
ntdll

Getting this after fresh install

[alpine star]

RTX 3070TI 8GB
32GB of RAM
Installed on SSD
Intel Core i9 9900K 3.60GHz

Mix of High and Medium settings

[hearty pollen]

Should be sufficent enough, Unsure about the CPU, but i assume its enough for stable performance?

[high quarry]

I am looking at what settings they changes for graphics now

[alpine star]

Yup, this patch massivley improved performance outside settlements, but after playing for a couple hours or going near a settlement I need to quit to main menu to reset the frames. Sometimes a reset fixes the settlement issue, sometimes not, a reset will always fix the memory leak.

[hearty pollen]

Are you using FrameGen?

[spare coral]

I stopped trying to fix this game and went to play ff16 instead

[alpine star]

I am, I've tried both and general world performance seems better with it on. Though I haven't tried it off vs on in settlements

[jagged escarp]

couple of shader cache clears with disk cleanup and it starts now at least

[hearty pollen]

Are you experiencing memoryleaks with it off?

[high quarry]

Here is what they changed:

Global Illumination Medium and High: Increased probe resolution
Hair All: set the voxellation limits (low-high all same, epic double)

[alpine star]

Hmm, haven't turned it off for long enough to know. I'll turn it off a while and see how it does more this evening. I didn't turn it on until today's patch but have always had memory leaks since launch

It's tough to get up to consistent 60fps without framegen, which seems a bit crazy to me given my hardware, but I know there's more to it than pure hardware strength

[high quarry]

Its pretty much just memory capacity and hardware capability..

[vital python]

Good evening, are you experiencing kernel errors while playing? Unexpected computer shut downs?

[alpine star]

I am not, for me it's memory leaks leading to massive frame drops. and massive frame drops when in/near settlements

I am playing on a save I started before the patch, if that matters, figured it wouldn't

[waxen vessel]

Not too sure. Maybe it would since some people can't skip cutscenes in their older saves which might extend to other issues?

[high quarry]

I cant tell if the FSR dll I had was better...

Edges are fine
moving NPCs are a little blurry
https://i.imgur.com/Cbz7F3c.jpeg

[alpine star]

I was at a consistent 60 with both FSR and DLL, now with only DLL I am sitting at 40-45, but I am testing to see if DLL only will result in memory leaks

[unborn canopy]

has new patch fixed nvidia frame gen with 8gb vram cards ?

[unkempt perch]

nope, is even worse

[alpine star]

I use an RTX 3070TI 8GB and FSR was working fine for me since the patch, beside the leaks and frame drops in settlements issues I've been having. But unsure if its related, I've had leaks since launch, same with the settlement FPS drops.

[lapis gale]

"Fixed performance drops on NVIDIA RTX 3000 series video cards with enabled FSR frame generation."

[unkempt perch]

this is a lie

[high quarry]

I feel like NPCs are just blurry and a lot less detailed??

https://i.imgur.com/qFIuPMg.jpeg

[sand nimbus]

The increased probe res is not gonna help with lumens general bad GI

[sand nimbus]

I dont see it tbh

[sand nimbus]

Imagine what we could achieve with RT man

[lapis gale]

Devs to lazy to add ray tracing

[waxen vessel]

I see the blur on the npcs looks like a slight mist on them

[main igloo]

My textures occasionally appear blurry after 1.1, does someone know why?

[sand nimbus]

It would completely transform the game

[dry hornet]

Anybody got a fix for infinate loading screen?

[lapis gale]

Use a mod to remove the loading screen fully

[waxen vessel]

If compiling looks like it's going nowhere just completely end the process and relaunch. It helped for a few

[dry hornet]

I got through the shaders just fine, its once i try to load my save game.

[waxen vessel]

Ahhhh ok I see

[high quarry]

going back to my FSR 3.1.2 dll

[lapis gale]

Lost your save unless you had a backup

[dry hornet]

I sure hope not

[lapis gale]

Just try a backup

[sand nimbus]

Why would you ever use fsr over dlss

[tawny thicket]

i think that the texture might be lower quality but i think the look fine

[high quarry]

I cant tell if its any better: https://i.imgur.com/QvWdvKa.jpeg

[lapis gale]

Zoom in when taking the screen shots instead

[tawny thicket]

because he doesnt have DLSS (bc he has an RX7800XT IIRC)

[high quarry]

It feels like there is some noise over the textures that weren't there before.

[sand nimbus]

They borked lumen

[tawny thicket]

what settings?

[sand nimbus]

I feel like they wont implement rt because it needs a good denoiser

[high quarry]

custom

[dry hornet]

Ever save i try i get a fatal error when it tries to load

[tawny thicket]

a denoiser that isnt TAA

[high quarry]

I only mean the NPC clothes, example:

Look at the texture detail on the tire and wheel, and then look at his jacket:

https://i.imgur.com/VdRXhLX.jpeg

[waxen vessel]

Yeah at that point you might have to start new game sorry to say

[sand nimbus]

Lmao

[sand nimbus]

Dlss does a pretty good denoising job thi ngl

[dry hornet]

If i have to start a new game i think ill take a break from stalker for a little while.

[waxen vessel]

No worries the game not going anywhere the zone will welcome you back with open arms lol