pc-specs

[glass vault]

i barely have 5% of the storage used. i pretty sure i went overkill

i don't even remember how many random ass drives i have in my am4 server

[flat brook]

I have a 12 bay Syn DS2422, managed to “sneak” that away from my old job (Boss was fine with it, would have gone in the e-waste bin otherwise) filled with a bunch of old Toshiba 7200 drives. Server data runs off NVME’s, but the drives are nice to have. Can’t recall the last time I lost any data

It’s one of those things you absolutely don’t need. But very fun to have, even if you barely use it

[glass vault]

i love the netapp jbods so cheap to keep running. not sure if that one is SAS 3 or SAS 2

i got 24 3.5" drives then my head server has 24 2.5" drives bays. my plan is to buy a lot of ssds to populate the main head server

@flat brook i am keeping a 2011-3 socket server alive till i decides it prefers death

[flat brook]

SAS 3 IIRC

[flat brook]

Goated

[glass vault]

i made i play minecraft in a VM without a GPU lets say parsec gave me a single bit of information a second so my image was good at the start then went to 1 big cube

[autumn crystal]

There has been no update for a long time, I hope they fix the optimization as well

[flat brook]

I love doing absolutely impractical stuff like this

[glass vault]

i gave it a 1050ti and it was perfectly usable to play 1080 games. sadly the shit xeon was not up to the task of single threaded tasks.

running my server out of my dorm room is amazing no power bills for this inefficent server

i was debating about giving it the 22 core xeons but im not paying 150$ per cpu. rather save up to by a newer 2u server that is xeon scalable for better performance.

WAIT THEY ARE 200$ RN THAT IS SO TEMPTING

@flat brook damn it i guess im searching ebay for more servers

[autumn crystal]

l have RTX 3050 ti 4gb DLSS+ FG and my fps 10 ... still very bad optimization

[glass vault]

its the low vram thats tanking fps

[flat brook]

While the optimization is suboptimal, you are a couple of gigs of VRAM under the minimum requirements. Kind of an expected outcome until/if they ever manage to reduce VRAM consumption

[autumn crystal]

However, 60 fps can be easily achieved in other games that require the same system requirements as Stalker 2.

[flat brook]

Those games likely simply won't allow you to use settings that would push you beyond your 4GB VRAM capacity, like GTA 4 used to do back in the day. Stalker 2 seems to have no failsafe in place for this.

[autumn crystal]

and When I first open the game, my fps is around 60, but later it drops to 10.

[glass vault]

vram is being full 100% happened to me a few times

@flat brook my ebay addiction is starting. the urge to have a optaine compatible server is close to winning

[autumn crystal]

These problems may be fixed if an optimization patch is released in the future.

[flat brook]

God speed brother

[glass vault]

200$ for a u.2 server ITS RIGHT THERE

i forgot when i tried to run 5 linux vms off the same sata ssd uhh my server died and froze for the next hour

i am debating if i should sell my 3080ti or throw it in my server

[flat brook]

I tend to keep my components close to me. Basically still have all my old hardware that aren't in use anymore, and the ones that are still in use are in my wife's rig

[glass vault]

i haven't sold my old rigs i sold a 3070 that i had for a few months before i got a 3080ti but otherwise they went to server rig or my dads rig for photos

last i saw a 3080ti refurb from microcenter sold for 400$

[plucky quail]

I am still holding to my Pentium D from 2004

And 8800GT

[glass vault]

i got 3 GTX 260s and i want to use sli and try to game on it

[wild mantle]

Що це було?
Мабуть, НЛО!
Ні сіло, ні впало,
По небу пливло

[glass vault]

i can't wait till epyc servers become affordable on the used market that will feel so nice for my server]

[fleet wraith]

I uh don't think going from 5 to 10 frames helps. You are running a Chernobyl PowerPoint

[glass vault]

the little 3050 that could

[fleet wraith]

I give to friends and family for free or cheap

[flat brook]

The little 3050 that tried

[glass vault]

i think over the summer i will get a sliger rack case for my server rig

[flat brook]

Yup, usually what I go for as well if someone needs anything. My 3700X went into my dad's gaming rig when he was feeling down and couldn't play, my 4070 is in my wife's rig

[glass vault]

think it would feel nice to have my servers on a rack rather than become a tower of metal

man i really should find more projects for my server rather than being a glorified ad blocking server/movie player

[fleet wraith]

My 3090 went to a friend for 600 bucks. I might swap him for free with my 4090 when I get the 5090 and put the 3090 back into my old am4 rig I just upgraded from to give to my sister/nephew

My friends are lucky with components lmao

[flat brook]

Blessed soul, if only we were all so kind to each other.

[glass vault]

god damn that nephew is lucky. hope they apricate it

[fleet wraith]

He's in his 20s he won't lmao

[flat brook]

He will later, no doubt

[glass vault]

fair enough.

i remeber paying for my 3080ti via blood money lol. 2 trips a week to a plasma donation center for a few months

[plucky quail]

Where is the money coming from Nasa?

[fleet wraith]

I'm director level at a global company and have no kids

[glass vault]

yeah that would do it

[plucky quail]

Makes sense with No kids XD

[fleet wraith]

It's cheaper than a cocaine habit

[glass vault]

what no wolf of wall street life? you even got the director title

[plucky quail]

He is working with the Ward

[flat brook]

And motorcycles for that matter...

[glass vault]

can't believe i almost finished college. its gonna feel nice getting some money next year

[flat brook]

I always thought that was a better/cheaper hobby than drugs. Boy was I wrong.

[glass vault]

i will not be financially stable

[plucky quail]

[fleet wraith]

Massively wrong lmao, but yeah that's my best friend's hobby. I used to head up market/customer research for a major cannabis company so there's my intersection

[flat brook]

Could have bought a lot of 4090s with the amount of money I spent each year on my bikes

[plucky quail]

So you where selling those

[glass vault]

i could've boght a decent car for the money i spent on my pc

[fleet wraith]

My best friend is a l6 at Amazon which fuels his bike addiction

[spare coral]

Damn the 5060 is also only 8gbs

[plucky quail]

Who needs a car you can fly with a 4090 and soon interstellar with 5090

[glass vault]

on god. who needs to buy a car when you could just have a rich friend.

[flat brook]

Sold my Ducati last year, spend half of it on my current gaming rig. Keeping the rest in my account as I currently can't work a job due to my wife being chronically ill

[glass vault]

who then got sick of seeing a rusty ass car leaking every fluid known to man

[flat brook]

Now I just keep my R1 up and running and use that as a daily driver (My back is angry at me)

[wild mantle]

Real question. Old car or 4090?

[glass vault]

i can already tell i will have no money i have a intrest in cars, computers and guns this is the trifecta of lack of money

[plucky quail]

I am just noticing that Nvidia makes so much money with the prices right now so that we cant buy other stuff.

[wild mantle]

Too broke to enjoy your passions

[plucky quail]

Its a loop We cant escape

[wild mantle]

I feel you

Same stuff but add in guitars as well. I would to have a fender or Gibson. But they cost an arm

[plucky quail]

Buying PC → too poor to buy other stuff → invested in gaming → Buying new PC → Too poor to....

[glass vault]

i feel like the 50 series will be my last pc upgrade for a 2 generations of cpus and GPUs

[wild mantle]

I'm gonna vibe with my 1660 super for another few years

Nvidia feels like a mafia at this point

[glass vault]

i will just have to stop buying hobby gear since cost of living will be a thing for me now

[plucky quail]

Buy Intel new B580 250$ beats the 4060.

[wild mantle]

So I heard

Intel new budget king?

[glass vault]

yeah from benchmarks

[wild mantle]

Why can't Nvidia release a budget banger and send every competitor back to sleep? Why are they so greedy smh

[plucky quail]

Yea 12GB Vram something between 4060 and 60TI and all the things you would get from Nvidia (DLSS, FG, Reflex)

[plucky quail]

They are on top already

[glass vault]

stock holders must see profit go up

[wild mantle]

I see I see

[plucky quail]

90% of the marked is Nvidia

[wild mantle]

stockholders strike again

Yeah but they could get 95% if they released something budget friendly

[glass vault]

also no reason to make them cheaper if you are the best in town. taking advantage of the lead they have to make more advancements

[wild mantle]

knockoff AMD and intel and be the absolute king

[glass vault]

they got no competition on the high end

[plucky quail]

5060 Will have only 8GB of vram so even if they sell it cheap it would need to be as cheap as the Arc GPU

[wild mantle]

Yeah nvidia is uncontested on the regard

[glass vault]

pretty sure intel arc is selling pretty close to cost otherwise they will sink

[plucky quail]

They will never fall cus of the OEMs like Intel cant Fall.

[glass vault]

intel can fail but it is hard since every dell and HP pc known to man uses intel

[plucky quail]

Only stumble

[wild mantle]

But what happened to cards like the GTX 1660 Super? . It's a bang for buck. Why not release something similar? That's all I ask

Still weird to see intel selling video cards

[plucky quail]

RT and DLSS

[glass vault]

honestly they should've years ago

[plucky quail]

and marketing and money

[flat brook]

They discovered they simply don’t need raw raster performing entry cards anymore

[wild mantle]

Sad sad sad

[glass vault]

why make the card good native when DLSS and FG exist they are adding those to the cost

[flat brook]

The gaming market is only a very small piece of the Nvidia annual income pie. The processes required for their entry level cards are likely too expensive compared to the influx of profit it generates

[plucky quail]

Most people that know there PC buy other GPUs but most people dont know about PCs

[glass vault]

it used to be true where 60 class is best bang for buck but times have changed

[flat brook]

The Chinese market is kind of interesting though, funny to see the 4010 being sort of a mainstream card over there

[wild mantle]

Times have changed indeed

[flat brook]

While the other half of the globe barely knows of its existence

[flat brook]

We’ve left the era of the next gen 60 model tying or beating the previous gen 70 models, unfortunately

[wild mantle]

This is the sad part

Feels so unnatural

[glass vault]

i am still confused where nvidia put the GB104 die for blackwell. the 5070ti is gb103-400 while the 5070 is gb105 where did they put it

[wild mantle]

I'm telling you Nvidia is a mafia now

[flat brook]

AI/Station cards maybe?

Haven’t looked at those in a while, but come across a couple of instances in the past of finding “missing” dies on non GTX/RTX cards

[glass vault]

could've swore they used slower binned dies for that not dedicated dies

but looking at the leaks the best card might be the 70ti

[flat brook]

AI/Station card dies are no joke nowadays, with one of their dedicated data crunching card slapping the 4090 twice over in anything but gaming, which makes sense because it can’t play games

And that is in raw “rasterization” performance alone, leaving the 40GB VRAM thing out of the picture

[glass vault]

yeah usually the professional cards are lower clock speeds and more vram

[wild mantle]

Aren't the 70 series the best choice ever since the RTX launched? In terms of price to performance

[plucky quail]

For how much should it go?

[flat brook]

So the fact that the 40 series Station card is able to back hand slap the 4090 is kind of insane, I hardly remember the Titans being that good in raw raster alone

[glass vault]

im just looking a core count. the 70 non ti has like 25% less cuda cores and 50% less RT cores

[flat brook]

Pretty much, especially if you wait for Nvidia to finish their entire lineup, Supers and Ti-Supers etc

[glass vault]

from what i have read the 5090 might be another massive jump in performance

[plucky quail]

Yea but then it still could cost 300$ more than the non TI

[wild mantle]

I'll wait then

[flat brook]

Honestly I would gladly grab a 5070Ti-Super or 5080 Super if it’s another 30% jump in native performance, would put my exactly where I want to be for the next 6 years atleast

[glass vault]

for spec wise 70ti looks best but its all in the air till prices get set

[flat brook]

Unless they both retail for 1200,-+

[wild mantle]

Need a proper rig to run stalker. I'm playing on potato graphics and it feels like tf2 sometimes

[glass vault]

i meant the 5080 is pretyy much 50% of the 5090 all around

[wild mantle]

Oh and prepare the PC for the Witcher 4 release

1660 super must retire. He was a good soldier

[plucky quail]

I bet they not gonna change the Price its to good now. The 4080 Didnt even make sense for 1200$ its just how they want there margin to stay.

[glass vault]

im guessing the 5080 is gonna be closer to 1k

[plucky quail]

Sure they dont pull the it has GDDR7 Memory thats why its 1200$ thing? I mean they could do that.

[glass vault]

i mean the 4080 was 1200 then the 4080 super went to 1k. im assuming its becuse stock wasn't selling as well as they want so 1k made it sell better thus more profit?

[plucky quail]

Yea but the 7900XTX was 1000$ and faster so there was no Incentive to buy that except you go either for the 4090 or 4070Ti which the 70TI was bad value

Now there is no AMD card that takes that place

[glass vault]

i assume its gonna be better price since they are the sole consumer for gddr7 mostly and no supply shortage?

[plucky quail]

The best selling card of the 7000 was also 7900XTX would guess cus of that. Least the steam charts showing that

[plucky quail]

The 8000 are not gonna use GDDR7? I guess i dont hear much from AMD leaks dont know why that is.

[glass vault]

last i knew they are going gddr6 or gddr6x to make them cheaper

[plucky quail]

I hear more Intel and Nvidia leaks than AMD.

[glass vault]

trying to win the budget bracket

[plucky quail]

Its gonna be seen how they gonna price the GPUs with them alone up there.

[glass vault]

oh definity

[flat brook]

5080/5080S for 1000-1200 in kind of manageable, still way too much of course. But in the range that I’ll consider it if the jump is good in terms of raw/native performance

[plucky quail]

Its gonna have 16GB right not 24.

[glass vault]

yep 16gb

[flat brook]

Likely, 16 works for me though

[glass vault]

should be more for a 80 class not the same as the 70ti and 70

[flat brook]

Furthest I’ve pushed my usage comically enough was with Anomaly, managing to squeeze just past 15.2GB

[wild mantle]

I think Stalker might be the new Crysis

[plucky quail]

Not for me tho if it has 4090 Performance. Like indiana is already pulling +16GB with only medium PT and with FG it would be even more around 19GB

[flat brook]

Different use cases of course, 16 works fine for me as I have no interest in a game like IJ, although i'm sure it's good.

[glass vault]

if 12gb is cutting it close on 1080p today its only gonna get worse 16is pushing the problem to for one more generation

[plucky quail]

I got Strategy games that are somehow pulling 17GB and Squad 44 18GB so we are already at over 16GB.

[flat brook]

At what res? Because at 3440x1440 Even S2 with all the VRAM consuming options set to epic + DLAA and FG I don't push beyond 12

[glass vault]

i talking 1080p max or high i don't remember settings for IJ

[wild mantle]

What's the best GPU for 1080 p gaming rn?

[plucky quail]

The thing is the Devs could do much more nicer looking games with more Vram but they cant. Ofc the Consoles need to keep up but 8GB is a joke to sell in 2024.

[glass vault]

probably the b580 at the moment maybe the 5060 ti if its not badly priced

[plucky quail]

I wasint talking about Stalker but yea i am also bit under 12GB

[glass vault]

its strange seeing Ray tracing as a standard for games now with IJ being the first requiring hardware RT

[flat brook]

Just found it odd, games like X4 have never drawn more than 12GB for me, neither have any of the other RTS games i've played in the past 6 years at this resolution atleast

[sly lotus]

Honestly it looks so good graphics wise, I don’t blame them

[wild mantle]

Why is stalker 2 so CPU intensive in towns? Even in Red dead redemption it's not so bad

[sly lotus]

Especially if the game is optimized to run it properly, which usually machine games games are. But I haven’t played indie yet so idk

[sly lotus]

NPC’s, AI, that kind of thing

[wild mantle]

But there aren't that many

[plucky quail]

You can look up Call to arms. Or Squad 44 its not a strat game but if you know Squad then you know how it is

[sly lotus]

UE5 moment

[wild mantle]

I hear everybody complaining about it lol

Why so many games use it if it's so bad though

[sly lotus]

Some people are really dumb about it. But UE5 optimization is a pain.

[sly lotus]

Easy to learn, easy to use, easy to implement. Looks good, but can be a bit demanding

[flat brook]

Played call to arms GOH Ostfront essentially at max settings, 3440x1440, never went above 11 from what I remember testing it. Squad I can imagine though

[glass vault]

because its easier to use UE5 than develop custom engines

[wild mantle]

Like Saint Denis in RDR2 never tanked my potato as much as small Zalissiya does

I see I see

[sly lotus]

A lot of UE5 hating is calling any game on it slop. Which is blatantly untrue. It just has a bad habit of being unoptimized. Im saying that as an UE5 hater

[plucky quail]

Yea they could have made a the shadow and light on there own without using lumen. 1 it would looked better and 2. Run better. But i guess they didnt have the time for that

[plucky quail]

Lol i have the same

[wild mantle]

Can it be fixed though? The engine? Or is it doomed to be like that forever

[plucky quail]

I have also all on Max

[plucky quail]

They can do it but if they want to do it IDK

[wild mantle]

I hope it gets the fix

[plucky quail]

Would not be really a fix more a new lighting system

[agile cipher]

After getting crap for having a RTX 4080 SUPER and 2 1080p 144hz monitors, I'm attempting to settle in for the student discount program from samsung, and purchase 2 4k 300Hz monitors

[plucky quail]

Damn for?

[agile cipher]

huh

[plucky quail]

Money

[agile cipher]

are you asking me how much im hoping to spend?

[glass vault]

what brand?

[plucky quail]

Yea 300hz 4k is not really cheap i would guess both would be also Oled so XXXX$

[agile cipher]

idk yet rn, i have to get student verified to know how much i can save. for sure 30%, hopefully 50%

[agile cipher]

I'm hoping ( 🤞 ) that it will be within the ballpark of $800

[glass vault]

dell/alienware and asus where garbage discounts. samsung and LG will be the biggest discount

[agile cipher]

For two, we'll see though.

[glass vault]

@agile cipher im looking at the neo g8 with my account its 620$ per monitor after discount

tell me what monitor you want me to check for the discount if its samsung

[agile cipher]

After student discount?

[late ferry]

glizzygoblin._ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[agile cipher]

That means both of them will be like $1200 😭

[glass vault]

got another model in mind you want me to check

[agile cipher]

Is that for sure student discount

[plucky quail]

I checked and it pulls on my end 19GB 1440P Every setting on MAX with 140FPS.

[glass vault]

yeah it says student discount in the checkout

[flat brook]

That's... Really strange

[plucky quail]

Did you check if all was on max not the Preset instead all manual?

[flat brook]

I always do my settings manually, don't trust presets to give me what i want

[agile cipher]

https://i.imgur.com/mdvvcn3.png

[icy anvil]

4070 super need

[agile cipher]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos Is .03ms and a 1ms really that big of a difference

Or is it the fact that the top one is OLED

[glass vault]

top one is oled just faster response time than ips

[agile cipher]

$200 difference worth of response time?

[glass vault]

no not in my opinion. the main diffence for me between oled and mini led is if you are in a bright area mini led wins but if you are constantly in the dark oled

[agile cipher]

Idek if I have enough desk space for two 32 inch monitors

[glass vault]

its alot of screen space

[agile cipher]

So rn I have two 24 inch monitors and 46 inches of desk space

[glass vault]

i got two 32" and my original desk needed an arm mount otherwise it wouldn't fit

[agile cipher]

Maybe I can find something 4k 240/360hz thats a bit smaller

[glass vault]

if you are going 27" go 1440p its easier to find

or just buy a oled or neo g9

[agile cipher]

I could just go for one monitor but I love being able to play the game and type on discord

[glass vault]

i feel you

maybe one 32" and one smaller 1440p monitor?

i got one curved and one flat panel so i can 3d model without gaslighting my straight lines are curved

[flat brook]

Peak, same setup but with 2 Ultrawides

One curved 144hz, one flat 100hz for blender work

[glass vault]

man i really gotta finish my custom desk cad model

i used to have 4 monitors 2 720p, 1440p and if i turned around a tv lol that was a jank setup

[agile cipher]

This icks my brain

Has to be both same resolution and Hz, same quality feedback

[glass vault]

i was thinking vertical 1440p

[agile cipher]

1440p is too low of resolution for me. As I was crapped on the other day, they said for my GPU I should have a monitor thats up to par with the GPU.

!!!

[glass vault]

i mean 1440p is fair for that gpu i got a 3080ti and im doing 4k on some games it still struggles

[agile cipher]

In this order, upgrade, my monitors, mouse, and headphones

Monitors need an upgrade ASAP, when I originally got them I had a GTX 1070, so it was fine.

[glass vault]

i bought like 4 headphones got 2 wired and one wireless. not sure why i bought 3 different sets

[agile cipher]

Rn I'm rocking a logitech mouse but its not a gaming mouse so bruh

[sly lotus]

Makes me feel poor

[agile cipher]

im not rich, my mother is rich

[sly lotus]

Been using 1080 for like 10 years, just got into 1440p and it reallllt doesn’t look very different. But maybe it’s cause I haven’t played on a PC for a couple months

[agile cipher]

i just go to college and advance myself and will eventually be rich

[flat brook]

1440P is absolutely fine for a 4080S, 21:9 as well. 4K is nice, but there's absolutely no need to run that resolution, especially if you value high frame rates.

[sly lotus]

So maybe with a side by side it’d be more noticeable

[glass vault]

real. warning if you are going into IT it sucks balls to find a entry level position

[flat brook]

Pixel density matters. If you're going past 32'' 16:9, I would consider 4K, but still not necessary

[glass vault]

i want cad software to be a one time purchase again

[sly lotus]

I got a 27in 1440 monitor, it’s nice. Pretty large tho, not that I mind too much. It’s like a perfect size to distance ratio

[agile cipher]

i'm gonna try my hand at being a sherrifs deputy, but I dont have the best record (not criminal, just mental health background) so if that doesnt work ill advance my cybersecurity studies

[flat brook]

Give 1440p a couple of weeks, then switch back to 1080 for fun, you'll see the difference. Same thing goes for going from 60 to 144Hz, you might not notice the difference immediately going forwards, but you absolutely will going backwards

[glass vault]

i feel you there i applied to some police digital forensics positions hoping i get a response in a few months. some history but not much

[sly lotus]

Nah I’ve used 180hz for years. I don’t really care for much above 60. It’s more of a nice to have for me

I’ll cap at 144 or 180, but not reaching it doesn’t bother me too much.

[glass vault]

but don't listen to people saying there are IT jobs everywhere. most help desk want bachlelor and 2-4 years experience so its difficult to get in

[flat brook]

It's not necessarily about reaching it in games, but if I go from 144hz to 60 while I move windows around, my eyes start to flinch at the jittering im experiencing

[plucky quail]

I am running 1440p its either 1440p or 4k

[agile cipher]

Yeah i'm gonna get a few certs and my bachelors so I think I'll be fine when I start looking

[sly lotus]

That, is true. I can’t stand a sub 120hz desktop. But in games it doesn’t bother me

[agile cipher]

Just hoping I'm not gonna get told I'm "overqualified"

[sly lotus]

I’ll go for 30fps in a game back when I had lower end hardware, if it ran well. Didn’t bother me too much, but a 60hz desktop is painful

[plucky quail]

1080p is using not enough my gpu for what it can and I don’t want it to run with a CPU bottleneck

[sly lotus]

4K entry is so expensive both in hardware and in actual peripherals, I don’t really see the appeal. Not to mention your mileage in performance varies way more in games.

[glass vault]

i would say skip Comp tia a+ and go for CCNA, CCNP or the other comp certs. the a+ is not good anymore. it still asks about slave and master drive systems that was abandoned in 2003

[agile cipher]

yeah I'm gonna puke if I have to go through and review for the CCNA

I had a hard enough time in my networking program learning about all the different technologies and how they're implemented and WAN technologies, gives me a headache

[glass vault]

im trying to get CCNA and CCNP to go into infrastructure. but also learning machine learning since thats where people want

the best way i have learned was buy a crappy old server for 100-200$ and build a homelab it made me learn better since there was an actual goal rather than do this for homework

[flat brook]

I sometimes switch back to 2560x1440 just to remind myself what I’ve lost…

(25-30 FPS on average)

[glass vault]

dlss makes 4k not as bad of a performance sucker

[agile cipher]

Just looking back at all of my notes makes me nauseous

[flat brook]

While true, I’m a sucker for DLAA or just plain native

Or well, DLAA is native, but you get what I mean

[agile cipher]

WAN Terminology fricking DCE, DTE, CPE, POP, Demarc, COs, Backhaul, Backbone, CSU/DSU, Optical Converter, WAN Core Devices

[glass vault]

real. i've done more documentation on my homelab than my networking classes

[agile cipher]

Thats just half of it bro

I have like 400+ pages of reading to review for when I decide to go for my SY0-701 Security+

[glass vault]

you know what i should break out my whiskey since i finally finished all my exams

[agile cipher]

I'm graduating on Thursday

Finally gonna have my A.S., still have to go on to my Bachelors but we celebrate one victory at a time.

[glass vault]

i and susposed to graduated in may

[agile cipher]

My mom spoiling me for getting through college fr. Got me a whole new PC setup and a Logitech G29 steering wheels and pedals

[glass vault]

I paid for my pc all myself. But gonna see if I can get a new GPU for my AI class I got next semester

[agile cipher]

Maybe facebook marketplace? I just sold my old PC there today for $250. Not bad, probably could've gotten $50 more but I was contempt with $250

[glass vault]

Looking at a 5090 for the vram

The 32gb will be nice for large models

cheers to whoever is above age

[agile cipher]

Cheers to you as well, I save my drinking for only weekends though lol

Any other day and I feel like an alcoholic

[glass vault]

i rarely drink now. its like once a month. but now that my finals are done might as well celibrate that it is over and only a semester left

can't deny some good whiskey is nice for celebrations

[agile cipher]

idk im getting a bottle this weekend and can't make up my mind about what I wanna drink

Jack and coke is on the possibility list

[glass vault]

pendleton is good i drink it neat

[agile cipher]

I think the problem is for me is that its hard to try new liquors cause it would be very upsetting to open a new bottle just to get disappointed and waste $50 cause it tastes like shit

[glass vault]

true im now just slow sipping while writing a new neural network to learn it better

[agile cipher]

I could never do shit that requires me to think while im drunk

[glass vault]

somehow im doing it

every sip makes me die from the kick

[glass vault]

well making it do the network a million times was a bit much

man even a 3080ti is struggling for a 200 line excel spreadsheet. thought it would be breezing through this

[hollow kettle]

I recently got a prebuilt (ew I know but it was a good deal). Went from i7-6700 + 1070 to i5-13600kf + 4060. Ik I already want to get another 16gb ram stick since there is a slot open next to the one I have installed, but is my cpu good enough to last some years? I think I could get a better gpu in the future and be good for a long time right? No need to bother with cpu?

[tawny thicket]

The CPU should be fine (at least if devs try)

[glass vault]

If it is ddr5 no worries about buying more ram since it's gonna stay for a while longer before ddr6 becomes a thing

[hollow kettle]

Yeah it’s 16gb ddr5 5200 mt/s I think

It’s just most games I play (especially this one) I notice memory usage is 90%+ usually. Afraid of it maxing out and performance issues occur

And like if I want to record or stream or have Discord open while gaming I might not have enough. Idk much about it all tho

[hollow kettle]

I noticed my gpu usage is always 99% but cpu usage usually 20-45%. Never goes much higher. Is this bc I need a better gpu or what?

[spice timber]

No. It`s supposed to be like that. GPU usage high, cpu usage low

[thorny panther]

I constantly get 150-200 fps but get random drops to 11fps every 2 minutes.i love the game but cant play, any advice?

[slim nova]

200FPS? Wht resolution u play... 720p?

[thorny panther]

No, just medium settings

I just wanna play man 😭

[nocturne tundra]

can you post your specs?

[thorny panther]

Ya, i have a laptop atm since i work away from home lemme pull em up

Basically this but with another gpu. My laptop has a 4070 and a amd 780m

https://rog.asus.com/us/laptops/rog-zephyrus/rog-zephyrus-g14-2024/wtb/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAACw0tQGdUHo5ieEYeb81yucOKr3wh&gclid=CjwKCAiA34S7BhAtEiwACZzv4VUQFqDIQxQTt6nUQ5VfnZD1v2jT7GTiUp17BpRImskW-E08hx8MqBoCy64QAvD_BwE

GA430ui-g14

[nocturne tundra]

seems like a vram issue maybe, you only have 8gb of vram

[thorny panther]

How do I tweak my settings (if possible)? I just dont get how it performs super well and once I get into buildings im fluctuating up and down over and over until I just get off.

[stable kite]

The only thing you can do to help a bit is lower texture and hair, but the frame drop to 10 will come eventually and when it does, save and restart the whole game. I got tired and waiting for patches

[lime shuttle]

i also have a 8gb card my settings are mostly everything at high except for textures and hair which are medium i dont get vram problems with these settings

[spare coral]

Depends if you are AMD or Nvidia

Nvidia apparently has more memory leak issues (someone said related to them using an outdated version of dlss?)

[stable kite]

If you want a few more fps disable nvidia overlay, fresh video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBW_3tArLOY&t=303s

[late ferry]

sundibundi93 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[random drift]

Guys, anyone playing with an Intel ARC B580? I'm thinking selling my 4060 ti 8gb it just suffering with this game

[rancid bramble]

Just get a 4060 ti 16gb. Intel is still doing a gamble with this cards. I would wait for the next generations before making a conclusion

[spare coral]

From what im seeing
On stalker 2 it gets like 6 to 9 fps less compared to a 4060 non ti (for now atleast)

[spare coral]

At this point just go for a 4070 super instead if you want to see an improvement of fps+ more vram lol

[rancid bramble]

I am on a 3060 12gb and the game is running completely fine with epic textures

[spare coral]

Or sell the 4060 ti and get a 7700xt or 7800

[spare coral]

Thats nice

[stable kite]

Anyone tried if in stalker 2 turning OFF Memory integrity in Core Isolation bring some gains as it is a heavy demanding cpu game? Heard it it worth disabling it + Nvidia overlay will try later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7qEHqHi-Gs

[broken sage]

Theres some people posting gameplay on youtube with it, not to shabby. Definitely Playable, but still not great. Youre not gonna get good fps until the devs optimize the game

[south light]

Can tell you works not that great

[lavish mason]

Side question to the pc nerds who know.

Just realised my windows 11 is stuck on 22h2. Doing the painful iso reinstall upgrade method.

Have I messed up accepting 24h4 into my life. Or is it the same

[flat brook]

Depends on your socket, 24h2 is basically 23h2 to include the Ryzen core scheduling fix. If you’re on Intel, don’t believe you’re going to notice a difference, not sure how it affects the AM4 line-up

[lavish mason]

I'm am4

Let's see how it goes, too late now

[tawny thicket]

That would be a better deal (the radeon cards)

But i suggest waiting for next gen AMD cards

Maybe NVDIA cards too but the chance of them pricing their cards based on what they can do is near 0%

[plucky quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBW_3tArLOY

[tawny thicket]

AM4 CPU's get a tiny uplift from 24H2

[rare temple]

Has anyone obtained the new Intel B series cards released for around $250 USD? I'd be curious how this GPU handles this game.

[plucky quail]

Guy for Nvidia user The Nvidia app is taking FPS

[stable kite]

i think is just the nvidia overlay thing

just disabled it in app if not using

[tawny thicket]

NVIDIA intentional driver bug to make people upgrade faster

[plucky quail]

Yea just deactivate it and you are fine

[plucky quail]

Guess you need 4090 To handle the Nvidia app XD

[agile harbor]

Overlay, filters (RTX HDR is a filter) and in some testing, simply having the app running according to some users. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1hg3pmy/official_nvidia_game_filters_and_performance_in/

[stable kite]

yeah, somehow filters were already disabled here only overlay was on

[rare temple]

I guess it's been stated that the latest nVidia app, per Tom's Hardware, has been shown to negatively affect framerates by as much 15%! Brett from UFD Tech covers this. Some people have reported that just disabling the overlay doesn't fix it. It might temporarily, but then they'll see the framerate drop later on even with the overlay disabled. Instead, it's recommended to uninstall the new nVidia App itself.

https://youtu.be/jKjDzQltTY8?t=674

I just tested it on my GTX-1660 6GB. In Slag Heap, even with a mod that reduce graphics further via the engine.ini file, I would get my VRAM going up to 5.8GBs of usage.

After uninstalling the nVidia app, I can get well over 40 fps, if not close to 60 fps, inside the Slag heap building when before it was around 40 or less at times. Also, my memory usage is now hovering around 5.5 to 5.6 GB and I haven't seen it go to 5.8 or higher since uninstalling the nVidia App.

Your mileage may vary, but it definitely made a difference for me.

[little flax]

The photo and filter system of the nvidia app seems to be the culprit. Tried on a 2080Ti and just disabling this gave same FPS in CP2077 as with the nvidia app not installed. Tested after saw a video from Hardware Unboxed.

[rare temple]

Now it makes me want to remove the mod I'm using to reduce the graphics to see if it works that way too. Probably not because I'm sure with my 6gb of RAM, it's still going to need further graphical reduction via engine.ini that you can't do within the game's graphical settings section. But it's worth a try.

[little flax]

Unreal Engine 5 is RAM hungry - be it just RAM or VRAM. Just the opening menu will eat up about 4GB of VRAM on my system. And seems like there is a memory leak of some kind. Have to restart the game after 2-3 hours.

[hard arrow]

for everyone having bad performance in a nvidia RX 40 series , i just discovered you guys got scammed unfortunatelly , 4060 , 4070, etc.
#💬┃en_offtop message
a 250$ card is putting to shame rx 40 series in stalker 2

[rare temple]

Supposedly, the nVidia app also causes issues with UE games. Now, whether that is due to how VRAM hungry UE5 is, or there is another issue that the nVidia app conflicts with UE5 and causes massive memory leaks, is not known. But it does seem that uninstalling the nVidia App can net you a 15% increase in framerates.

[agile harbor]

#pc-specs message

[hard arrow]

nvidia app or nvidia experience?

[agile harbor]

3%-15% depending on the title, not a flat 15% across the board.

Specifically with filters and overlay disabled

[little flax]

The new nvidia app.

[hard arrow]

bro... im telling you nvidia is going down the coming years, they only have been sheeting the bed lately, i wish i have a intel B580 the performance is 20%-35% than nvidia most powerful cards

[agile harbor]

what?

[little flax]

I ran test based on this video and can confirm that just disabling the filters and photo mode gets the performance back on my 2080Ti and AMD 3090X system.
https://youtu.be/aBW_3tArLOY?si=0oW5I9lnsf1FyF2C

[hard arrow]

the app sucks, the cards overpriced, the technology old, vram of the rtx 40 series doesnt even works for 1080p games in 2024, nvidia gpu cant even run the games of the current generation, its a shame

[rare temple]

The newer nVidia App. nVidia has trying to "force" people over from Experience by having Experience no longer checking for the latest driver versions. I can attest right now, I've removed the latest engine.ini mod that I was using to reduce graphical settings so my GPU won't exceed the 6gb of VRAM I have. I am now running stock settings, with low graphical settings, with FSR set to Quality and within Slag Heap, I never went above 5.6 gbs. I can't attain 60 fps inside Slag Heap, but it's staying around 45 FPS for me which is manageable.

Outside Slag Heap, once I get away from it, I'm getting around 60 fps outside in the zone without any mods. On a GTX-1660 with 6gb VRAM, that's pretty darned impressive if you ask me. I'll keep playing to see if I start to run into memory leaks, but outside in the zone, my allocated VRAM is hanging around 4.5FGB whereas before it was closer to 5GB when the nVidia app was installed. And I'm getting pretty good FPS at close to, if not sticking at 60 fps. And Frametime is showing to be pretty stable for me with 16.6 ms overall.

[hard arrow]

4060 rtx has slower bus speed than a 3060 ti, it worst in almost every department only thing that keeps the card alive is dlss gen

[agile harbor]

First, a minor hiccup like this isn't even going to dent Nvidia's dominance, it'll be forgotten in a week. On top of that, they're the worlds most valuable company in market capitalization. The gaming division is essentially nothing to them in terms of their standing as a company. Lastly, Arc has nothing that competes with Nvidia's top or even midrange cards so I'm not sure what you're saying there.

They most certainly are not "going down".

[spare coral]

Unless they drop a b770 and its better than a 4070super i dont think they will compete with anything more than in the low end builds

[hard arrow]

look at the intel new gpu b580 , it performance better in 95% vs the best nvidia gpu there is right now.
Its already a competitor that will take a big piece of the market.
and there is rumours that the next RTX 50 series in 2025 wont have alot of VRAM just like the RTX 40 series. Games are getting VRAM hungry by the day. b580 comes with 12GB vram with 192bus speed, with a cheap 250$ gpu you can put 4060 rtx to absolutely shame, in stalker 2, indiana jones, cyberpunk, you name it
look at it #💬┃en_offtop message

[agile harbor]

look at the intel new gpu b580 , it performance better in 95% vs the best nvidia gpu there is right now.

Can you explain this line?

[rare temple]

Actually, it's been reported that the 5090 will probably have 32gb VRAM. Still remains to be seen though. 5070's are reported to be limited to 8gb but that's due to the memory bus architecture they used in the 5070s. The others should see around 16gbs.

[hard arrow]

bro in a 1660 ? thats insane

[spare coral]

The non ti 5060 is said to be only 8gbs too

[hard arrow]

look at the video i send you , it shows the performance comparison in 20 new games or something like that , see the difference , b580 runs better all the time, AND ITS CHEEPER

[rare temple]

Not all nVidia GPUs. Mainly, the 4060 and that is under certain tests. It just depends. I believe 1080p it's pretty neck and neck. But 1440 I think is where you start to see the new Intel B4 series GPU start to outperform the 4060.

[spare coral]

You said "the best nvidia gpu" 😭

[agile harbor]

The B580 is fantastic, I will be picking up a limited edition model when stock returns, i'm just trying to understand why you seem to be saying "better than the best Nvidia GPU's" which it obviously isn't. @hard arrow

[hard arrow]

i mean hes doing the true test without upscaling, once you put some DLSS technology and frame gen and all that , maybe nvidia runs better but it also a shimmering blurry mess

[hard arrow]

look at the video

[agile harbor]

I don't need to look at the video to know an Arc B580 doesn't outperform 4060Ti, 4070, 4070 Super, 4070Ti Super, 4080, 4080 Super and 4090.

[rare temple]

FYI, my is an OC version of it (OC out of the box), but yeah. I'm getting pretty good performance so far. I still have to put the game through it's paces, but I've just done a quick 15-minute test during a break from work (work from home). I'll test it a lot more tonight once I'm off work. Plus, I'll be on vacation for the next two weeks for the holidays. So I'll have plenty of time to put it through the wringer. Not going anywhere, but I always take the week of Christmas and New years off just to unwind from work. 🙂

[spare coral]

The 4060 is literally the worst rtx 40 card def not the best lol

[hard arrow]

"i dont need evidence, i know im right because i dont want to be wrong" okey buddy

[rare temple]

But the price per performance ratio is what helps for those who want a budget GPU at around $250 and for a GPU with more than 8gb of VRAM. That's who this is for. I'm interested, but I want to know first how it performs with this game before I shell out the cash for it. 🙂

[agile harbor]

I get that, I just think @hard arrow is using some low rent youtubers video as "evidence" that B580 is faster than Nvida's whole lineup.

[spare coral]

I think the problem is that V4nrick said that its comparable to the best nvidia gpu lol everyone knows that is a budget card

[agile harbor]

You've not provided evidence. Can you show this from a trusted source?

[hard arrow]

discredit the harden proven evidence that comes with technical facts because it hurts your ego.... okey buddy

[agile harbor]

My guy, are you trolling? https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-arc-b580/32.html

[rare temple]

I trust what Steve from Gamers Nexus showed with their test and their tests state it depends on what game you're doing, etc. But they agree for the price, the Intel GPU is a great bargain for budget hunters over a non-TI 4060, especially due to the amount of memory you get with that $250 price tag!

[hard arrow]

its a budget card that runs better than a 4060. its amazing

[agile harbor]

Its a low-midrange card. Its great for the price, but its still a low-midrange card.

[spare coral]

It is

[hard arrow]

what about comparing it from game to game ? instead of just a graphs that says nothing about ?

[spare coral]

Yo can see the comparison for differents games in that post

[agile harbor]

No one is arguing that its a bad card, Its a great card for where it sits in the market.

What I will argue is this assertion that its somehow better than 4060Ti, 4070, 4070 Super, 4070Ti Super, 4080, 4080 Super and 4090.

Its not physically possible for it to be. As for game to game, that same TPU article tests many, you are free to use the drop down and select them.

[wary totem]

[rare temple]

Correct. His statement was:

a 250$ card is putting to shame rx 40 series in stalker 2

That's saying this card will shame all 4000 series cards in Stalker 2. Not true.

[hard arrow]

broooh, okey 4080 and 4090 runs way better than B580. they cost 1000$ and 1600$ ... wtf are those prices.

[agile harbor]

Alright, well, we tried.

Genuinely looking forward to getting one to tinker with (B580). Will pull the RX6600 from my second system.

[hard arrow]

oh yea! rusn better... cost 4 times to 6 times than a b580 What im saying is ... the majority of the gamers wont buy a 1000$ gpu in 2025, they are gonna buy a b580 at a dirt cheap price of 250$

i just hate when companies scam people, i feel like nvidia have been scamming alot of them

[rare temple]

But you're comparing apples to oranges. Those are considered mid to high-tier cards. The new Intel is a mid to low budget, more towards the low budget. So you can't compare the two. Those still outperformed the Intel GPU by a pretty good margin. And that's to be expected. But definitely as a budget card the Intel GPU is possibly a great option for people who don't want to shell out $300+ for a GPU to get decent performance in a game like Stalker 2. I know I'm interested in it, but unfortunately, Intel makes these limited releases. Once they sell out, they sell out. Now, there has been a non-Intel release of this GPU but it's about $30 more and the only thing different is it has a different cooler, 3 fans instead of 2, and is supposedly OC'd. Jays Two Cents did a test and the base Intel release card and this OC'd version performed exactly the same other than the non-Intel ran cooler but otherwise, same FPS, frametimes, etc. LOL!

[hard arrow]

i think you will love that gpu, i wish i cold get one

[rare temple]

Me too but they've already sold out from what I've read. I'm sure scalpers will cheese people out of money though. Here's hoping 3rd party companies offer this card as well so those of use saving up to get one can do so. But again, I want to see someone apply it to this game. I was a bit disappointed that Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, and Jays Two Cents didn't use this game to test it. I would love to see this game tested on that GPU.

[hard arrow]

they will have to branch out in the coming months, there was a big shift in gamers interest, alot of videos showing the comparison, a lot of eyes on that b580

[spare coral]

Some peeps already said that they saw some B580s being resold at 400 bucks lmao

[agile harbor]

That's sad for those scalpers. There are better GPU's for $400 new and in stock.

The whole benefit for B580 is the price.. if you take that away you've got nothing lol

Sadly I bet some people will pay it

[spare coral]

Yeah for 400 just go for something else

[broken sage]

Bro
Back to lowballing people on facebook marketplace ig

[autumn crystal]

@fleet wraith @flat brook @glass vault Yeaaa , GOW Ragnarok, Cyberpunk, Death Island 2 and Black Myth Wukong, which have the same system requirements as Stalker 2, also get 3050 60 fps and even higher fps, but some people just say the little 3050 and say it is....

[fleet wraith]

It's a 4gb card in a game that demands VRAM. I don't know what you want here

[torn urchin]

anyone knows if having virtualization enabled in the cpu is in any way beneficial in terms of performance? mine is active know but idk what is does or what is it for (R5 3600)

[flat brook]

Like I said last time, those games are likely staying under your 4GB limit, where as Stalker 2 is not.

Go past that 4GB of consumption, you’re gonna have a bad time.

[glass vault]

yeah they did state 6gb vram minimum sadly

[flat brook]

Cyberpunk states 6GB VRAM minimum for 1080p, the only way I imagine you’re not crossing 4GB of consumption is at 720p or with DLSS.

[fleet wraith]

I'm assuming you are on a low tier laptop since it's a 3050ti

Maybe make sure it's running on that and not integrated but I wouldn't expect miracles

You are below the minimum specs

[glass vault]

its gonna be wild to see new APUs beating the 3050 mobile

even the current apus from amd that are in laptops are fast as hell

[autumn crystal]

nah 1080 p dlss+fg fps60++

I get 60 fps in Stalker 2, but later on there is a fps drop and it drops to 10, and FG still doesn't work properly.

[glass vault]

its the memory leak or you went to areas with alot of NPCs and everyones fps drops there

[flat brook]

I did say at 720p or with DLSS

[autumn crystal]

Anyway, GSC said that there will be performance updates in the new patch, maybe they will fix the FG and fps drops so maybe I can play the game properly.

[autumn crystal]

Oh I said it wrong, I can play Cyberpunk with 3050 at medium settings and only 60 fps with dlss (NO FG) :)

[lapis gale]

What about dlaa ?

[tawny thicket]

No DLSS BC we already know it would win so no point in polling it

[lapis gale]

I said dlaa not dlss

[tawny thicket]

They are pretty much the same and DLAA would still win

[lapis gale]

Wouldnt say that

[flat brook]

It’s not FPS that is the issue generally speaking, it’s VRAM consumption.

But yes, I do hope GSC manage to cut down 2/4GB of VRAM usage so you can play

[lapis gale]

Dlss is 66% on the highest mode and dlaa is always 100% or higher

[flat brook]

DLAA my beloved

[tawny thicket]

DLAA is just the way that the native mode of DLSS is called

[lapis gale]

Not really its also a Anti-Aliasing technique

[tawny thicket]

So is DLSS

[lapis gale]

Dlss is a Super Sampling technique

[agile harbor]

Somewhat. DLAA is just native resolution but using the same tensor core tech to perform anti-aliasing with little/no performance cost.

DLSS assumes starting from a lower than native resolution and upscaling.

[lapis gale]

Either way taa looks the worst

[autumn crystal]

if necessary, I can install a 100 gb patch XD, the upcoming patch will also be updated for performance, gsc has said, and they've been silent for a long time, I think a big patch is coming

[tawny thicket]

How about a "which looks worst"poll

[lavish mason]

lads, its been a nightmare of a day. absolute nightmare in pc spring~ (winter) cleaning

changed AIO fans for glorious brown noctua. all good so far

did the mass mobo and drivers updates becasue why not. fine

notice windows is stuck on 22h2 and wont move further. here the nightmare begins

many chats with windws later, they iso repair/reinstall windows 11 pro. downloaded the wrong language like, so had to wait again. painless, works.

GET TO GAME.....for 1 hour

then the "your copy of windows is not genuine and requires activation" watermark.

like its been genuine and activated for 2 years 2 months now chaps

another chat with microsoft, this time the brick wall type

you have to contact your retailer. but microsoft, its been activated and legit for 2 and a uater years, why would it be a retailer issue

head banging and insults are traded for half an hour more

mate just comes along, vies me a powershell line to run

windows now fully activated, took 20 seconds. FML

screams gently into pillow

[lapis gale]

There is a code you can put into CMD promt to remove that watermark

[lavish mason]

i think thats what i did

i shoulda listened to my boi straight away rather than try to be legit with microsoft the robbing changing BSTRDS

[tawny thicket]

(this poll still exists)

[lavish mason]

also it just, activated it. not just remove the watermark. gudtiems

[agile harbor]

I was only able to put in about an hour and a half last night with the latest DLSS and FG .DLL's swapped in (just appended .old to the old ones). Wasn't really enough time to determine if the VRAM consumption issue is gone but we'll see hopefully tonight.

[glass vault]

I just been using a 20$ key from 3rd party shops

[lavish mason]

me too

fine for 2 plus years

lesson learned. never waste time on legit troubleshooting chats when the bois provide a github

[tawny thicket]

just realized that there are 2 tech channels LOL #❔┃pc-specs

[agile harbor]

I've wondered why for a long time

I never seem to remember which one I was talking in last

[flat brook]

One is just absolutely no spoilers, the other spoilers are allowed

[gaunt bane]

I need 4090 to run okay this game?

[agile harbor]

Need? No

it sure helps though!

[stable kite]

If you run others games fine but not this wait for patches

I will not change my pc because of this even if i love stalker

[agile harbor]

For 1440p if you have a modern (1-2 gen old) CPU and a midrange and up GPU, it'll be playable once tweaked.

[lavish mason]

one hell of a stupid intro post. welcome

[flat brook]

Yes.

(I love spreading misinformation in our civilized tech channel)

[tawny thicket]

YES trust i telling truth alwaysh

Depends on who you ashk

[dry atlas]

Tbh, a 4090 would be ideal

[sick stream]

No, you need two 4090s to run this game.

[lament crow]

Wait for 5090 w/ 32gb VRAM to make sure.

[hollow kettle]

16gb vram $2000 take it or leave it

I liked my 1070 more than this 4060 honestly

[flat brook]

GTX 10 series were powerhouses, especially the 1080ti

[dry atlas]

GPU companies slowly gaslighting us into believing their low end models are “mid-range” smh

[hollow kettle]

I mean ig I can’t complain. I can run games a lot better than I could on my old system. But best part was going from i7-6700 to an i5-13600kf. Plus I was still playing on an old WS hdd lmao nvme is so much faster

[dry atlas]

Yeah the jump from hdd to nvme blew me away, felt like a super computer

[lavish mason]

going back to an old game and playing it in nice crisp MAX everything ,at some 200 plus fps is a much sexier experience than this blurry stalker 2 2024 fidelity smeer

[uneven fiber]

4060 8gb vram good enough to play game?

[agile harbor]

Yes. How well depends on a combination of settings, resolution and supporting CPU/platform.

[uneven fiber]

Ryzen 9 7900x, 64gb of ram, 4060 ti 8 gb of vram

[sand nimbus]

4090 is honestly obsolete the second 5090 drops

[dry atlas]

True, if you’re buying a graphics card rather than a new car why not wait for the newest one

[lavish mason]

because i like not being bent over?

[hollow kettle]

I have had next to no issues running this game on high/med settings (dlss quality) at 1080p with an i5-13600kf, 4060 & 16gb ram

Populated areas get a bit of frame rate drop but nothing major really

[harsh blade]

I've a Rx 6800 & Ryzen 7600

I'm trying getting the build finished this month

[agile harbor]

It can be made to run at 1440p. You have the CPU horsepower which is where so many people are struggling.

But first you said 4060, then you said 4060Ti. These will offer a different experience.

[austere crest]

I'm half-jealous.

[agile harbor]

I like my old 7900x.

[plucky quail]

Weirdest build ever here

[agile harbor]

Liked*

[plucky quail]

Can’t we pin like at what settings a 8gb gpu is not usable in this game. I see people with 4060 and ti and some with laptop versions that have 6gb or 8gb trying to play it and expecting bad gameplay.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1308037145180639284/1310477517366366299/Graphic_preset.png?ex=6763068b&is=6761b50b&hm=beadf9597ea8ae4f3a80d015664057aa73232c3439b446007cb745aec4b76330&

Not without reason why the 4060 is beside a 5700XT at medium.

[austere crest]

Above Medium, I guess, since I'm playing game just fine on HDD, i5-11400, 12 GB RAM and an Intel Arc A750.

[agile harbor]

A big factor that's difficult to quantify when working with multiple people is what constitutes "just fine".

[flat brook]

Not to mention that half of the time you’re dealing with incomplete data.

[agile harbor]

Honestly more than half the time, tbh.

[flat brook]

And the other half is people trying to help them, but them not providing the information that’s been requested

[austere crest]

Well...from my observations, 'just fine' for most people seems to be 120 Hz, no-stutter gaming...which...is, well...high-end, I guess.

[tawny thicket]

This poll still exists

[tawny thicket]

So does this one

[runic beacon]

How tf does this dumpster fire game have steam awards nominations

[sly lotus]

I let nvidia optimize my game as a meme and I get a steady 60-80 depending on where I’m at.

On mostly maxed with DLSS and Frame Gen

[hollow kettle]

“Just fine” for me is 60+ fps at 1080p tbh. Anything more is definitely welcome but if not, I’m content.

And I get well over 60fps 90% of my playtime on this game

60fps + looks good*

[lapis gale]

Looks like the best gaming gpu isn’t the 4090 anymore

[hard juniper]

so like 40fps

nvidia sure loves to pretend

[glass vault]

so nvidia is teasing something about neural renderings for 5000 series. something about how graphics are being displayed

[vapid wigeon]

To be honest, everything going more AI based with renders and such is going to ruin gaming sooner or later.

[glass vault]

neural networks are cool for compression as AMD has proven but there is only so much upscailing that can be done before you are doing nothing

curious what they are meaning for the neural renderings

[vapid wigeon]

My best guess its just more to make path tracing a better thing

That or also something along the lines of bring their RTX Remix more into gaming too. Remember how it re-made Half Life 2 with realistic textures and all.

Mixed bag of things it could be idk. Either way, eh....... More of an excuse to have lazier means of actual art within games and it'll all rely on fancy gimmicks to pull off a nice look or something

[small root]

Anyone know why for cutscenes, the FPS drops dramatically? Like gameplay is smooth (enough) but when cutscenes happen, it gets pretty bad

My GPU is a 3080 FE

[vapid wigeon]

No issues here with cutscenes lol just let it roll man its w/e at this point.

[small root]

I mean I guess if you dont care much about immersion. Still a bummer though

[vapid wigeon]

Like I said I've had zero issues with FPS this whole time even cutscenes. How ever, these cutscenes are live action like RDR2's are. You're just seeing the more lively active NPC's in action with lots more going on some times thus seeing the games real performance on your card. Its that simple.

[small root]

Yeah, but even with RDR2 the fps didnt suffer like that and Id say Stalker's graphics are just as amazing as RDR2's. It has to be something and I know a 3080 should be able to handle it.

[flat brook]

FG doesn’t apply to cutscenes, and the cutscene is played while the game still plays/renders in the background

[vapid wigeon]

Yep that, was about to say what @flat brook said

[small root]

Ahh the frame generation

That would make sense

[flat brook]

Looks funny on ultrawides if you remove the borders, Skiff just plays the exact same animations as in the cutscene, but none of the cutscene action is happening beyond the borders. Looks like he’s having a conversation with himself

[small root]

lmao

[vapid wigeon]

lol I gave up on ultrawide, its why I sold it 2 weeks. It's been 4k for me since.

[austere crest]

Seeing the trailers, only the lighting looks somewhat good; the textures and models look out of place.

[vapid wigeon]

I loved it for 2 years but eh.... the fact I STILL have to mod some titles for a proper hud, cutscenes are trash, I can go on and on

[flat brook]

Gotta be honest, S2 is the first title that’s annoyed me with the cutscenes being fixed 16:9. the other part I don’t really mind, as community fixes are usually a-plenty.

Don’t think I could ever go back to 16:9, both for productivity and simming/gaming. Just wish devs took some of the other aspect ratios into account

[vapid wigeon]

I will admit the productivity of 16:9 is taking some getting used to again lol other than that, its actually a warm welcome. I'm back to using 32inch, and for the first time non-curved in 5 years.

[flat brook]

To each their own, I went with a curved panel for my games/sims, and a flat panel for my productivity work to make sure my lines and models are straight, not curved

[vapid wigeon]

I mean other wise I would have stuck with curved and such lol but this monitor I got on a deal for 250 bucks mint condition local on FB market. The Innocn 32mv2, miniled with 1052 dimming zones, true HDR, the list goes on and on lol so worth it.

But I had some MSI QDOleds in my cart for damn sure and (another ultra wide......) LUL

[flat brook]

Might grab a 32:9 panel next year if the 5070/5080s are decent, but I’m concerned about fitment between my rig and my wife’s💀

[vapid wigeon]

Oh we shared a desk too and I DID have a plan to just go with a 49 and use PBP mode but all that monitor for myself ahahah. Luckily, she took her half of the desk to the other room again. I was gonna hog everything

[flat brook]

Ours is a corner desk, but with one of those annoying curved corners, so we lose quite a bit of space on the transition. Her rig is already pushed against my bottom panel pretty much, and I have like 20cm to spare on the right

[vapid wigeon]

Mines a massive U shape desk but we took it apart and made it long wise, downside was that one end of the desk is a partial table shape lol so it was hectic. I know the feels though with these odd ball shapes.

[glass vault]

This is a separate point from dlss

But seems like dlss 4 will be coming out. I wonder if the neural part is for textures like AMDs compression method

[plucky quail]

What will be dlss 4 anyways

[noble robin]

have there been any performance patches past few weeks? havent played but there was sometihng stopping me from playing voer 30 mins at a time

[glass vault]

something neural or more AI

[plucky quail]

Like? Now 3x the FPS with fg2 or what will that be. Higher texture in real time? So the texture is lower resolution and gets upscaled

[glass vault]

i baseing my guess off of the videocardz article they got from inno3d (https://videocardz.com/newz/inno3d-teases-neural-rendering-and-advanced-dlss-for-geforce-rtx-50-gpus-at-ces-2025). it mentions neural processing but most of it around AI

biggest points being " Neural Rendering Capabilities", "advanced DLSS technology", " Improved Ai-Driven Upscaling" for the key points for gamings everything else seems to be faster AI assisted tasks better power effciency or ai acceleration for content creation

@plucky quail they are also hinting at a possible full lineup release rather than staggered

[plucky quail]

Ngl I can imagine with 8gb vram they gonna let ai upscale texture and say that works

[glass vault]

if its a neural network it could be compression related

[plucky quail]

How compression

[glass vault]

if it is a neural network and compression. it would be amazing tech if the textures stayed compressed within vram. it would make current games be able to have good textures while staying small on the card.

the neural network finds patterns to be able to make it more compressed pretty much a compression algorithm that can learn and adapt to each texture. its a simpler version of chat gpt rather than outputing text its much better with numbers

[glass vault]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ntbc-neural-texture-block-compression-shrinks-storage-footprint-by-70/ this article explains it pretty decently

its very similar to media encoding

[plucky quail]

Oh yea that would be good but still mean that it needs same vram without comparison

Right that’s what I am reading here

[glass vault]

AMDs version dones't keep it compression when in vram sadly but its still possible that NVIDIA if they go this path got it to work. that also might explain the lack of more vram addition to the higher cards except the 5090

also seems like the witcher 4 will probably be NVIDIAs showcase game like how CP2077 was

[plucky quail]

For that there ai must be really strong running dlss FG , aa and texture upscaling

[glass vault]

thats true its gonna take more resources to do it but wonder what the downside will be there always will be

[spare coral]

Nope, next patch its said to have some performance fixes but i wouldnt expect too much still

[noble robin]

fingers crossed.
4060 ti, 14700F, game runs AMAZING but just slows to a crawl aftrer 30 minsn.
Doesnt matter if i play on 480p with 60fps cap

[plucky quail]

It’s I don’t like how all goes to ai. On this rate we can play full AI game every frame is just AI generated

[spare coral]

The new Ark has forced frame gen all the time lol

[plucky quail]

Even the head of the arc gpu Said that would be nice if every thing is AI

[glass vault]

i mean the texture compression & upscaling i can get behind since they aren't really AI rather just a big algorithm but frame gen is pure guess work which makes it dumb.

[plucky quail]

Yea but it’s AMD FG

[lavish mason]

just make graphics sharp and clean again

please! all this AI is utter bollocks, as is frame gen and dropping from native res

[spare coral]

They killed the sharp and clean graphics when they invented TAA

[lavish mason]

TAA is truly the worst

its not even AA, its just smudging

[plucky quail]

But is it upscaling while I am playing the game or just that I don’t need to download much and the texture will get after unpressed?

[lavish mason]

nah, im playing at native bnut theve under sampled loads of stuff so it looks ok when blurred to fck

[spare coral]

The worst case of TAA is prolly red dead redemption 2
The game looks too soft doesnt matter what you do

[lavish mason]

what was wrong with MSAA x 10000000

other than it causing the heat death of the planet

[glass vault]

upscaling is perfect for 4k and 1440p gaming but anything under that upscaling shouldn't be required. also AA the whole point is the blurr the game so its upscaling but worse since it doesn't even give you performance

[plucky quail]

@glass vault

[spare coral]

Using the upscalers as native AA is far better than TAA at least (when you can do it)

[lavish mason]

weve had 4k for what, 12 years now?

[plucky quail]

Where is my 8k?

[glass vault]

not sure but AMD its only for when you download the game and storage but when you play the game it gets uncompressed and sent to vram

[lavish mason]

8k is defo the tv manufacturers panicing that theyve got no more marketting nonsense to wow us with, ala 3d tvs that one summer

[plucky quail]

But wouldn’t that mean my cpu gets even more taxed?

[spare coral]

4k tvs with ai tech are everywhere now
I still have my old 4k android tv from like 8 years ago

[lavish mason]

"ai tech" could mean anything couldnt it. its mostly all utter nonsense bloatwear and spywear at best

[errant aspen]

I only just got my first 4k TV this year 🤣

[glass vault]

no its similar to compiling shaders where its only happening during start up there won't be any compression during gameplay

[lavish mason]

i want my tv to have a nice picture and maybe an android ui at most

[spare coral]

Yeah, they said pure useless stuff like "boost image quality" or movement

[lavish mason]

ive gone to customers houses and they are struggling with wifi storms disconnecting their phones. yeah its because you have over 80 connected devices in your house, theres 2 of you and a child what the ACTUAL FCK is wrong with you. Yeah thats TWO wifi connected ovens even. i CANT EBeN. they probably had an AI powered shower

[plucky quail]

I get when having not that fast internet and uncompressed after it has been downloaded. But waiting game is not cool.

[errant aspen]

I don't even own 80 devices 🤣

[glass vault]

it should be pretty fast after the first time

[lavish mason]

they had ALL the smart bulbs, a thousand corpo listening devices everywhere, online heating system, ability to turn on raidators from holiday (lolwhy)

[errant aspen]

People sure like to burn money

[lavish mason]

aye

[glass vault]

the only IOT device i want is for power monitoring my servers

[plucky quail]

Not as fast as other games. If we can see it in stalker it’s 10 sec of my life. And some AI doing the task will not make it faster for me

[errant aspen]

I wouldn't mind a fridge that ordered stuff that I was running low on, but can't think of anything else that would actually be useful

[lavish mason]

why not have every single device in your kitchen connect to the cloud!

[spare coral]

I dont want my damn shower to listen to my ramblings
I already have my phone spying me i dont need the whole house to do that

[glass vault]

still gonna be cool tech if its better than AMDs current version

[lavish mason]

good lord i just found a toaster with a screen on it

[errant aspen]

Talking toaster from Red Dwarf would be fun.

[glass vault]

hey google make me a pop tart

[plucky quail]

Huh? Current?

[lavish mason]

dave did not find that toaster fun

[glass vault]

that article was the explaining their current state of the compression its just not implemented anywhere and still being developed as far as i know

[errant aspen]

He did not. 😂

[lavish mason]

given that god is infinite and the universe is also infinite, would you like some toast?

[plucky quail]

So u meant the tech is cool and should be implemented and not replaced against older AMDs tech.

[glass vault]

I am assuming Nvidia has a better implementation of what AMD has but this is just my speculation and past history

[lavish mason]

radeon in driver image sharpening is legit good. i assume nvidia has something similar

[plucky quail]

Do u know what the difference is between cpu utility and usage?

[spare coral]

Yeah it does
It has 2 different options for sharpening iirc

[plucky quail]

How does it get calculated? Out of what?

How can my cpu utilize more than 100%?

[glass vault]

Not at all I'm just making educated guesses on the neural processing from the article. It will be clear in about 2 weeks

[flat brook]

Inject drugs straight into the silicon wafer

[mellow egret]

fed my cpu the hash i made and now my computer now longer works and its asking for funions
0/10 bad advice

[flat brook]

I said inject drugs, not hash... That's just gonna turn it into a mellow hippie

Give it the good stuff

[mellow egret]

my hash is the good stuff

[knotty rose]

anyone experance the "fall bug". running and then you keep falling over and taking like 80% damg?

[lavish mason]

instructions unclear, my pc now has a set of massive silicone boobs

[plucky quail]

I am Reading on the hwinfo cpu utility and usage. It’s saying it’s calculating the clock speeds and thermal throttle to come to the %.
But no where it’s saying what clock it’s using base or boost for the 100%.

[glass vault]

Never really thought about it for how usage is calculated

[plucky quail]

No apparently usage and utility are 2 different things. Utility calculates how well ur cpu does the calculation. It’s using clock speed as reference but not explaining what kind of clock since we have 2 base and boost.

Like ur hwinfo is showing 115% utilized what ever that means

[lavish mason]

like, when i use a keyboard im at 100% usage but im really only utilizing it to about 15% of its potential, as im spazhanded

call me intel

[plucky quail]

What’s spazhanded

[lavish mason]

bad at typing

[plucky quail]

Like fat fingering?

[lavish mason]

yes

spastic fingers, i type imprecicsely as fck

also my handwriting is atrocious

now i think about it i cant aim for sht either.

give me a 4 x scope or give me death! literally, ive never once hit a fast moving mutant enough to kill it without cheesing them by standing on a thing

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/EM79XC4RtpQ?si=cAx-zbPsy0PCCLBc

[stable kite]

Gm, i feel we will get a patch today, said my crystal ball

[slim nova]

I hope they will fix the micro stuttering bug during ADS which occurs in most cases after 72h49min of game time

[tawny thicket]

The poles still exist

[tawny thicket]

.

[wispy trench]

oddly specific time

[tawny thicket]

Nah, the worst implementatoin of TAA is death stranding

[slim nova]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1643320/discussions/0/592882992704167506/?ctp=2

[wispy trench]

intrresting im well over 72h and that mission, never had that issue

[slim nova]

You're lucky, I have this problem and it's basically made me not want to play because I use the scope a lot. It's even noticeable when aiming without any attachments.

The strangest thing is that when I created a new game with a new save, the problem doesn't occur on the new game (probably up to 72 hours of game time). When I load an old save from over 72 hours... boom, the game micro stuttering again when aiming. WTF?

[hard arrow]

bruh what? so i have 20 more hours of playtime until the game starts to stutter what the hell?

[slim nova]

Hopefully this doesn't affect everyone, or they'll fix it soon.

[high quarry]

People are assuming they are storing seconds in a short int?

[grim harness]

When is the new update?

[nocturne tundra]

in 20 minutes

[grim harness]

[autumn crystal]

[stable kite]

[light marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

[agile harbor]

20 minutes

[edgy oriole]

performance patch: never 😭

[hard arrow]

next patch HAS to improve in performance, its about time everyone gets 5 to 7+ fps at the very least.

[edgy oriole]

shouldnt have a cpu* bottleneck with a 2080 ti

game uses like 50% of the cores it's using, too so

I imagine it could be better

[hard arrow]

yea... i been watching some ue5 videos about optimization and its very very clear Stalker2 is doing alot of things wrong, also the pop ins and the shimmering is a bad implementation of lumen and LoD technology

[tawny thicket]

what

[tawny thicket]

this poll still exists

[tawny thicket]

so does this one

[rare temple]

Has anyone else on PC experienced where you get sucked into one of the anamolies and the game just freezes and you have to go to task manager to kill the game? This just started happening to me. Only mod I use is an engine.ini mod to reduce graphics.

[spare coral]

Do you have msiafterburner

[stable kite]

Never happened to me, could be the mod

[tawny thicket]

i guess its a tie between TSR and TAA

i thought TAA would have been voted the worst (without being tied with TSR)

[austere crane]

have you tried just waiting it out? the anomalies that warp you to a different location (even if it's within visual range...) basically force a full map reload so it can take a bit, depending on cpu and drive specs. my 9800X3D + 990 pro nvme still results in a relatively long, annoying pause. we're talking seconds here, but i'm sure it could be 10+ seconds on slower hardware and a SATA ssd for example

btw that's a pet peeve of mine a lot of developers do, not just GSC - when the game has what's supposed to be some cool visual trick while something happens in the "background" (like traveling to a new location) but the engine and/or how that's coded causes everything to grind to a halt until the loading is done... DON'T DO THE VISUAL GIMMICK

otherwise all the player experiences is "uhhh... what's going on? this is ugly or maybe broken" which entirely defeats the purpose of having a slick animation or graphical effect. use a fade to black if you can't manage threads properly ffs so it's not a complete eyesore

also wen patch

[stable kite]

wen wen wen wen

[agile harbor]

20 minutes

[agile harbor]

Yes, but only recently in Pripyat. I'm nearly finished with this playthrough so I'm not bothering to figure out why.

[slow rain]

currently running a ryzen 5 2600 with GTX 1660 super, i think im due an upgrade soon especially playing stalker lol

[agile harbor]

Zen+ is certainly going to struggle here.

[slow rain]

was running at 70fps on medium with frame gen but entering a town it drops but im still getting random frame dops down to 5 im hoping the next patch fixes that though

just dont really want to buy a whole new pc if i can help it

[spare coral]

i dont think a performance patch will help your 2600 tbh

[blazing cape]

A lot of the frame drops to that extent are due to VRAM overflow over time

But the game is also CPU limited at times, esp in towns... Check GPU usage and if it's dropping heavily, it's probably the CPU

[slow rain]

i am going to be upgrading my cpu and gpu but i dont want to be buying a new motherboard too just so i can use am5

[hard juniper]

your specs are unfortunately not even close to good enough, i doubt patches will ever give you consistent playable framerates

[spare coral]

motherboard and ddr5 ram 😭

[slow rain]

im basically going to be buying a new pc at this point 😦

[hard juniper]

not a terrible thing

[blazing cape]

Ali has some good deals on 5700X3Ds, but even with that, the game does hit near 100% at times on a core. This was in town, with a bit of a fight, which is an extreme: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235198292892323841/1318303246598668338/2024-12-17_06-31-46.png

I'm also on a 1660 S currently. The VRAM limit is real above medium, especially.

[slow rain]

probably a better idea to move to just overhaul my pc then i built it in lockdown but served me well up tp yet

[sand nimbus]

Love that no one actually has any idea whats going on graphically

[tawny thicket]

? elaborate

[sand nimbus]

For starters lumen just sucks. It makes the Image noisy the Performance is as horrendous as possible, the light bleed kills every brain cell and the Pulsation of light in certain areas has been proven to cause seizures

[tawny thicket]

yeah, especially software lumen

[lavish mason]

Whatever they want to call it, they failed in making indoor locations visible without a torch on.

That's some basic play testing early on stuff

[sand nimbus]

There was no playtest

[agile harbor]

I thought it was just me and the HDR + OLED combination being wonky. I was too lazy to tune it. Black certainly are black but man..

lighting is just all over the place

[stable kite]

I have to put gamma to 60 lol

[agile harbor]

See I can't do that without drastically raising black levels and that looks awful

[lavish mason]

I Haven't even got hdr turned on and I'm on a bandy grey tn panel and I still think it's too dark ha

[agile harbor]

So no contrast and all the contrast users think its too dark. 🤝 Something is wrong! lol

[lavish mason]

I only have hrd 400 screen and I think it only ever just worked and looked ace on Forza horizon games so I've left it off for years. Windows in hdr was really really ugly too. Been a few years since I turned it back on

[agile harbor]

Na, don't bother. Unless you have a screen that can actually display HDR its never worth it.

[lavish mason]

I mean it's hdr certified. Just a sht one. One day I'll get an oled!

[agile harbor]

It is.. and it isn't. Unfortunately the goal post for HDR400 is so low its often referred to as fakeHDR. No full array local dimming, low peak brightness, unsatisfactory color gamut, etc. Really unfortunate situation as a whole because so many people have monitors with "HDR" slapped on the side, turn it on and think what they're seeing is HDR and it simply isn't, thus thinking its a joke and a gimmick.

Its a marketing success in terms of selling monitors but a failure in terms of actually bringing proper HDR to people.

TBH I thought it was a gimmick before seeing it done well and now i've been obsessed for the past two years.

One of those "ok, wow, i've been missing out" moments.

[lavish mason]

Yeah, was before oled was available really, and local dimming zones were measured in single digits

Never be an early adoper

[agile harbor]

AOC's Q27G3XMN is still the best "budget" option I've seen in a while with a real shot giving a good HDR experience and only $250. 336 local dimming zones and full DisplayHDR1000 certification. Honestly not bad, and reviews well.

[lavish mason]

Just been reading the monitor review RR m back when mine launched, I had bought a good buy for them time but yeah, 8 years later things have drastically moved on

[agile harbor]

Especially in the last 2-3

[austere crane]

FatherLamb and i were chatting about HDR in here recently. the whole concept was almost murdered thanks to all those cheap PC monitors that weren't really HDR flooding the market for years, alongside wonky implementation on the OS side. the software/OS stuff works great now, just need a good HDR display and it's one of the best tech innovations for gaming ever. too bad most people have been convinced it's a gimmick now

[verbal sage]

Don't blame ppl who cannot afford good quality monitors with even decend HDR. I had once S3422DWG and HDR on it was terrible, now i have even cheaper display but much better responsiveness and quality... without any HDR.

[austere crane]

i didn't blame people, i literally blamed the displays... come on now

[glass vault]

HDR fro my experience is not amazing. Support for it sucks still. Never worry about a monitor having hdr

[austere crane]

you guys are the end result of what i was talking about (which sucks, but obviously not your "fault")

[lavish mason]

U wot m8

[glass vault]

It's really the cheaper monitors claiming to have HDR when it's the bear minimum and id you try to use it it looks so much worse than sdr

[austere crane]

is there an echo in here? 🤔

[glass vault]

I didn't read anything above. It was too many words

[austere crane]

hahah, fair enough

[lavish mason]

My monitor wasn't cheap it was one of the best availabile at the time. It just had an early hdr bonus feature that never worked great too

It hasn't ruined hdr for me or put me off it. Windows did that

[austere crane]

well like i said, Windows is fine w/ HDR now

[lavish mason]

It isn't

[glass vault]

I tried using HDR on my neo g8 and honestly I still prefer SDR

[austere crane]

i mean... i've been using it for ~3 years now and you're definitely wrong, but ok i guess

[lavish mason]

Just go search and see how many people disagree with you

[glass vault]

Windows 11 HDR mode still is jank. Randomly makes every even more dull until you reset HDR mode slider or reboot graphics drivers. It was daily

[austere crane]

ahh yes, always the path to enlightenment.. go find people who agree with you

[lavish mason]

I searched how is windows 11hdr doing in 2024

[glass vault]

It's gotten better but still is janky

[austere crane]

anyway i'm not gonna argue with you guys lol, believe what you want

[lavish mason]

Youre the one insisting it's your opinion or bust mate,

[glass vault]

Dude all I'm saying is from personal experience with HDR mode on windows 11. Sometimes after exiting games it will make everything super dark and the only way to undo it is disable and renable HDR mode or shortcut to restart the graphics driver

[lavish mason]

They were trying to implement the option for it to auto turn off on the desk top after gaming . Whether they succeeded who knows

[glass vault]

This was on my neo g8 for about 4 months. Haven't found a solution so I went back to SDR mode

[glass vault]

If this was the auto HDR mode the part that sucks is Nvidia HDR features don't work with it

[austere crane]

yeah, who knows? certainly no one who's currently using HDR would know that

[lavish mason]

Go on then

It was in a canary island preview in august. Has it launched generally yet

[austere crane]

no, i would google "problems with windows 11 HDR" that way you go directly to threads and posts about people discussing problems they're having

[glass vault]

Someone is hostile about their position on HDR to someone who doesn't has one but is bringing up problem he has heard about

[lavish mason]

I do have a HDR monitor too,

[glass vault]

Thought you didn't my bad

[lavish mason]

I've experienced these problems. But I'm not foregrounding that experience over researching others as I have an early hdr monitor with not great dynamic range

Still makes windows 11 HDR pretty awful for me, and apparently loads of other people

[austere crane]

honestly it's just insanely frustrating (and again, i'm not saying "pfft it's your fault!!") because if i could transport you to my room in an instant, i could show you precisely how you're misinformed and stuff but... obviously i can't

[lavish mason]

Including oled gamers

Your personal experience isnt really the be all and end all of the debate

[glass vault]

How am I missinformed I experiencing these problems first hand. I have neo g8 which was a 1300 monitor for HDR. And still have problems with windows 11 implementation on HDR mode. When it works it looks good but it keeps breaking when I was using it.

[austere crane]

that's like saying "your personal experience that you burn your skin if you touch a hot frying pan isn't the be all end all of the 'are frying pans actually hot' debate"

[lavish mason]

No it isn't. Don't be daft

[austere crane]

like yeah, no... that does actually end the debate, my eyeballs and skin tell me that

[glass vault]

My experience was also for the last 4 months. I'm not saying that it's complete garbage but it's not perfect. It needs fixing on the parts where it goes extremely dark after exiting a game

[lavish mason]

If you've fried your eyeballs this may explain why you think windows 11hdr is good

[glass vault]

I want to use HDR mode but it just broke for me too often to make me want to deal with it any more sadly

[lavish mason]

Same

[austere crane]

i'm not saying you guys are lying about what you've experienced, i'm simply saying your experiences aren't de facto examples. on the other hand, you guys are telling me i'm lying, because none of that is true as i could show it all to you. right now. on this PC.

[lavish mason]

No, just saying you're being a bit precious of your opinion Vs anything else.

I dont need you to confirm there's loads of users with hdr issues on windows desktop

[austere crane]

i can't even wrap my brain around how to discuss this further... from my PC... where i am and have been using HDR for a long time now with none of the issues you're talking about

[glass vault]

Never said you are lying. Yours could be working perfectly. But there are other people that are having issues with the implementation.

[austere crane]

"others are having issues" != "the issues are universal". man this is basic logic, guys

[lavish mason]

It is pretty evident you are struggling with this, aye

Main character syndrome

[austere crane]

incredible 😂 ok bye

[lavish mason]

See ya

[glass vault]

They aren't universal but are common it seems. Just because I said that other people have it doesn't mean it's a 100% chance for it to occur

[lavish mason]

What a strangely aggressive fellow. Maybe his dad is Bill High Dynamic Range

[glass vault]

It's too bad that my computer just keeps breaking it.

[flat brook]

The only issue I have with HDR is that it really doesn’t play nice with some applications, and having to endure a 5 second seizure anytime I want to turn it off/on really isn’t fun with my top monitor basically being a goddamn flashbang🤣

[glass vault]

On god. The 1000 nit white screen flash bang at midnight

[lavish mason]

Ngl, I had that happen in game in stalker 2. Christ I was blinded leaving a shack in the morning's rays

650 nits still can hurt !

[flat brook]

I had it last night playing cyberpunk, doing some multitasking in VSC. Hit CTRL + B because my text in VSC was barely visible. My wife woke up because of it, lit the entire room😭

[glass vault]

I have a pistol light that hits 1000 lumens and that shit will burn my eyes. I did the conversion 1000nit is 3000 lumens roughly it's soo god damn bright

[lavish mason]

All my flashlights are smol and end up in the washing machine. I have had to stop that side hobby

I blame microsoftx HDR implementation for my poor pocket checking abilities

[glass vault]

My first thing I did with my pistol light was to look straight at it and turn it on. It's a right of passage

[lavish mason]

I did that with my dodgy Spanish holiday red laser pointer from the 90s in my youth

[glass vault]

I love how it has a strobe mode from the factory

[lavish mason]

Probably gave me mega cancer instantly, and explains my inability to see the genius of of a Seamus racer post

[flat brook]

Not while it was on the rail I hope

[glass vault]

It would be ungodly funny to do a night Airsoft game and just flash bang people.

Also yeah it was on the rail
Slide was off

[flat brook]

Oh god…

Okay good.

[lavish mason]

He's gone off the rails for sure

A loose cannon

[glass vault]

Had a roommate every once in a while when he wasn't expecting it he would just see the light of the sun at 1am

It became a competition to who could flashbang eachother the most

[lavish mason]

Is this "flashbang" a hot sexy new trend between...... "Roommates"

[glass vault]

No just blinding the shit outta eachother with weapon lights lol

I cast fireball

[lavish mason]

Did it stop that time you accidentally illuminated him having a sneaky jodrell bank at 1am. 😅

[glass vault]

Not sure what you mean I probably don't want to know

[lavish mason]

That's cockney rhyming slang

[glass vault]

Then I for sure don't want to know

[lavish mason]

You know. 😁

[hard juniper]

this is why i don't bother with hdr tbh

too much trouble to use it

[tawny thicket]

also assuming you have to use upscaling to get your desired framerate

[lavish mason]

No comedy option in the poll, no vote.

[tawny thicket]

comedy option : ATI

[lavish mason]

ATI voodoo rage tick

[tawny thicket]

AMD released a new version of FSR https://gpuopen.com/learn/amd_fidelityfx_sdk_1-1-3_patch_release_now_available_on_gpuopen/

part of their patch notes said "Fix typos in the backend "

[agile harbor]

Two years of it on full time in 11, i've not experienced this.

Been playing with a few different inverse tonemapping options and really enjoying Special K's implementation

vs. things like AutoHDR or RTX HDR

[agile harbor]

3DFX would have been better

[late ferry]

glizzygoblin._ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glass vault]

You use auto HDR or rtx HDR on all the time?

[agile cipher]

This is gonna cost a pretty penny #📸┃screenshots_and_videos

[agile harbor]

No, just HDR in Windows on all the time.

[glass vault]

Weird. Only time my HDR mode breaks when when exiting full screen games.

[agile harbor]

Nvidia's HDR implementation for video online video content and games means I wasn't going to settle for turning it on and off all the time.

And the SDR content brightness slider means normal SDR desktop work isn't blown out

so its the best of both worlds

[glass vault]

Probably gonna check that out when I get back to my pc

[agile harbor]

I run that slider real low, i think its a 5

Now, that's with OLED so its half to just preserve the panel when doing any sort of desktop static content

but what's nice is if you open a YT video, just the player window is in HDR (thanks for Nvidia's HDR for video feature)

[glass vault]

Ok I never used the auto HDR function or rtx HDR function not sure why

Maybe that would fix my issues

[agile harbor]

In game native HDR can be good too if available. Playing the new Indiana Jones game now with it and its implementation is quite good.

For S2, I have in game HDR off and using Special K to process HDR, gives me more control to tweak things.

[coral token]

I am back

hand is still screwed but can at least play games again somewhat ok with the wrist brace on and keyboard lowered

[remote elk]

does this also fix the flickering red dot that u get with amd fsr?

[hard arrow]

do i need something in particular to run SpecialK HDR? i mean any hardware requirement?

[agile harbor]

Other than a good HDR display to actually make use of it, nope

[glass vault]

special ketamine hdr

[crimson ridge]

i will not use framegen , screw dat man, just insane input lag, mouse is not moving to exact position where it supposed to move

[hard arrow]

use specialK reflex, turn off vsync, turn off reflex ingame. i got 13ms playing stalker 2, at 75 stable FPS
#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message
This are my settings and fps and latency. Been playing 40 hours with this, 0 problem landing a headshot at a moving target from far away

[tawny thicket]

That "flickering red dot" only happens with FS FG and the only fix would be giving FS FG motion vectors for those elements which might not be possible

Or for me it only happens with FG

[sudden anvil]

just wondering, where can i disable TAA completely? im trying to find the config file but im blind, trying to see what performance difference i will have and what graphical artifacting will be like (id rather have sharp low fps than the blurry mess of TAA)

[tawny thicket]

In the upscaling options go to none

[late ferry]

majorowsky has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawny thicket]

And if you are at 1080p you are going to regret everything

[sudden anvil]

im asking as its UE5 so yeah. it just sucks.

[sudden anvil]

thats the best part, i would rather play anything else than at this garbled mess

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos

these nasty freezes is going to just make me throw something out of the window...

this is unacceptable that a game runs this poorly on what was supposed to be a stable expierience, running this game.

fps dont mean shit when the rest goes out of the window.

[tawny thicket]

Probably VRAM related

[sudden anvil]

VRAM is stable, stresstesting every now and then + testing with OC's/power/vram/all kinds of tests.

[tawny thicket]

Ps: when i did this on my RX6600 it was smooth with no stutering

Its just that i much preferred the tweaked version of FSR at quality

[sudden anvil]

like even on the start of the vid when i started walking you could see me walk into walls and doors due to these constant freezes, now imagine trying to aim at someone's head with that bs happening every 2-3 seconds...

[tawny thicket]

VRAM was 5500Mb~

[tawny thicket]

Yeah not a stellar experience

[sudden anvil]

im suprised i even went through 15 hours of gameplay like this... im just giving up untill more patches come out or untill modders get access to some tools (as some of these lads are just mental)

[spare coral]

I dont think performance patches will help a lot with a ryzen 2600 and rx 580 tbh
This game is too demanding and most of the time minimun requirements on games are a lie 😭

[nimble tree]

110gb patch

[white cobalt]

No patch notes yet

[unkempt juniper]

110gb patch lmao

[dry lynx]

Holy moly 1800 fixes

[stable kite]

It's aliveeeee

[dry lynx]

Almost had identical setup; you will encounter lots of stutters even with FG on and lowest settings possible

[grim harness]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-cheering-gif-3724183077221405325

[dry lynx]

And fps will be below 60 at all times, atleast upgrade gpu to a RX 6000 series

[inner pawn]

hopefully some good news for 3070ti mobile cards

[spare coral]

the patch notes sound amazing lets see if low end people get a boost on performance (dont think so but i hope im wrong)

[lavish mason]

Looks like I'm having patch notes for breakfast

[lime shuttle]

new patch is huge holy

[dry lynx]

They do mention improvements in populated areas

And some other performance improvements but mostly for nvidia gpus

[spare coral]

tbf most of the people complaining were nvidia users

[dry lynx]

I wonder if there'll be any hope for us 8gb gpu users especially on amd

Otherwise I'm gonna have to consider returning my new GPU and get a 12 or 16gb one

[past lynx]

i just hope that i can get atleast stable 60fps now on 5700x3d

[dry lynx]

We can only hope to see further patches to improve performance

[lavish mason]

You bought a new 8g AMD GPU in 2024

[fluid wagon]

fps drops being fixed will save so many people

[dry lynx]

The rx 7600 fit my budget in November but due to new year I can return it by end of January and with a pay increase I could return and get either the XT or like 6750XT

[spare coral]

the 6750XT is nice

[dry lynx]

Also big issue for me rn is the fact that I have an OEM PSU with - as far as I saw only one 8pin for the gpu

[spare coral]

i have an OEM card lmao

[inner pawn]

Hopefully a boost for 3070ti mobile. cant wait to play and look at performance

[dry lynx]

I saw some image from Tom's hardware showing the differences between gpus in a graph and the rx 7600 was a safe bet for improvement from a rx580

[spare coral]

yeah by a huge margin lmao its a nice upgrade but 8gbs of vram hurts

[unkempt perch]

it's hard to optimize an engine that's broken right from the beginning and DLSS by itself is the worst technology that masks poor engine optimization

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4

[past lynx]

yeah 8gb hurts had to upgrade to a 4070 super from 4060ti when i got an 1440p monitor

[lavish mason]

Just shovel that money to nvidia

[past lynx]

i was thinking between 7900gre and 4070 super but nvidia got me 😦

[spare coral]

the branding power is too strong sadly lmao i get it

[past lynx]

atleast my younger brother got a good upgrade for his 1660 super XD

[dry lynx]

That's why I'm planning on returning it in January and with either Christmas bonus or pay increase get something better

[lavish mason]

Nvidia sold you a bad card this gen. That wasn't enoughnram . So you punished them by buying a more expensive Nvidia GPU from the same gen

[spare coral]

damn the 1660 super was a great card
efficient, cheap and powerful for its time

[past lynx]

yeah he had it for a while then i gave my 4060 ti and he is happy with it

[lavish mason]

This is why the 5060 will launch with 8gigs

[spare coral]

no one should buy the 5060 anyway
intel would prolly release a much better card for its price when that one gets released lmao

[next terrace]

what else are you supposed to do if you want to play new games?

[lavish mason]

A little bit of research before purchasing whatever slop Nvidia is telling you is deffo good enough

[dry lynx]

The type of people to buy gaming laptops with a 3050 or 4050:

[past lynx]

last computer i had was 560 ti with i52500k then i was a console gamer for many years just got back to pc gaming this spring

[lavish mason]

God damn the 2500k was amazing

[inner pawn]

have i9-12900 3070ti mobile, you think this would run good on my laptop with 32gb ram? before you guys flame me why didnt i bought a pc, I was a digital nomad on year 2022 i bought it on that year i dont have the luxury of carrying a pc every other day.

[past lynx]

and not everybody has the money to build a good pc i only switched when i got a better paying job and microsoft started to give out exclusives away

[spare coral]

i wish i had a laptol like that tbh

[dry lynx]

I feel like 32gb are definitely a must atp; so that's good. No clue how well a laptop 3070ti will fare but should probably run stable 60fps on low at the minimum? Don't quote me on that tho

[dry lynx]

Laptops like that are either a godsend or with their fans for cooling a nightmare with them sounding like jet engines

[inner pawn]

sorry that message was for the other guys, i went here a couple of weeks ago asking if i can run this game but some of the guys just responde "buy a pc, throw that garbage etc".

Thanks for replying

[fierce zenith]

Ayoooo, 117,8GB Update on PC Gamepass....

[dry lynx]

Same people complain about consoles and whine about day 1 patches

[lavish mason]

Gaming laptops have always been a bad idea

[unkempt perch]

infinite compiling shaders after patch, nice...

[dry lynx]

Unless you're very on budget then yeah - the prices for gaming laptops with a justifiable gpu nowadays are almost as expensive as an actual pc

[lavish mason]

And they are loud and unreliable

[lapis gale]

Clear your shader cache

[dry lynx]

Big fax on unreliable; best friend had a thinkpad with an rx580 and it didn't even work properly out of box, had to get it replaced until he got a pc

[lavish mason]

Nearly made the mistake of being tempted by sexy razor laptop once. A tech friend warned strongly against it. Seen a sea of denied warranty claims

[lapis gale]

What ? Gaming laptops are 40% worse then their desktop counterparts and on top of that they are W20% more expensive

[snow torrent]

the new patch looks absolutely insane 🫶

[spare coral]

Yeah its stuck in compiling shaders for me too

[lapis gale]

Clear your shader cache

[dry lynx]

I mean yeah, gaming laptops that now cost like 1k for a decent gpu shouldn't even be bought and instead just go for a pc

[lapis gale]

Yea cheapest 4090 laptop I could find is 3600$ where the desktop version is only 3100$

On top of being cheaper it’s also 40% faster

[hard juniper]

gaming laptops are a bad idea unless you have the money to waste

paying more for less

[spare coral]

How

[inner pawn]

mine is running smooth like butter since 2022, replaced thermal paste on gpu with Liquid metal and temps are very good for me

[lapis gale]

• if you put it on your lap it’s gonna burn hotter then lava while gaming

[dry lynx]

The only time I'll understand someone buying a gaming laptop is if they're constantly on the move due to their job and not being able to carry a pc with them obviously

[inner pawn]

I use it for work and i am not staying in one place for long so its really handy for me

[dry lynx]

Exactly what I said - people like truckers or people having to fly from office to office due to their job

[lapis gale]

Why do people care how big the patch size is it doesn’t matter if it’s 500 gb or 1 gb just download it in the background lol ?

[inner pawn]

and since I quit my job I am steadily saving for a PC, having a kid took away my Hobby money

[dry lynx]

They probably think it's additional size needed instead of realizing that it's just an overwrite

[lapis gale]

I mean it’s called a patch and not a update for a reason 😂

[dry lynx]

Understandable but i hope you still can enjoy your hobby somewhat

[dry lynx]

They be complaining on this patch for the size but can understand if warzone or whatever other cod game is pushing the same sized patches/updates

[lapis gale]

Who knows why lol

[inner pawn]

yeah man, it aint that bad, I still enjoy space marine 2 for about 2 hours in my free daddy time

[dry lynx]

For the Emperor brother

[unkempt perch]

after this patch usage of GPU drops to 30-40%...

when i want to talk with npc.. and crash to desktop