pc-specs

[flat brook]

3.6 mil for 2560, 4.9 mil for 3440 alone. Which gives you on average a flat 25% reduction in FPS in most titles. Now imagine 5120x1440

[flint spoke]

to help the cpu but idk what settings actually hit it, maybe object detail?

[high quarry]

@flint spoke enable console, and set screenpercentage to 77

its better than 1080p/FSR Quality

I was testing an Ultra profile earlier (higher than Epic)
This is a side-by-side of Native 1440p, and 77% FSR:

https://i.imgur.com/sZPsX17.jpeg

[sonic sphinx]

yea frame rate at 5120X1440 is lower than if i ran at 4K even tho it is 1mil less pixels or so

[flint spoke]

oops yeah but ultra i meant epic, my bad

[high quarry]

yeh, Epic is lower than those settings

[flint spoke]

yea

[high quarry]

but, there still shouldnt be a major visual different between 77% upscaled and 100%

67% there sure is.

[sonic sphinx]

epic is the highest it would let me go

[high quarry]

Yeh, you can only go to Epic with in game settings

but I was using this tool: https://i.imgur.com/ANHf0h6.png

Here is Insane profile side by side with a blanced settings profile:

https://i.imgur.com/v99M5g8.jpeg

[fair birch]

1080p 😷

[high quarry]

Yeh, FSR Quality is upscaled 1080 when at 1440 🙂

[sonic sphinx]

anyway i need to get some sleep

[high quarry]

77% is more like 1972x1109

[sonic sphinx]

also 1080p is not that good unless you are on a smaller screen like the Rog Ally X

[flint spoke]

ah nice, all my saves corrupted

its good i have backups, but i literally just had to deal with this the other day when my user profile disappeared

v1.03 more like .503

[vapid wigeon]

5120X1440 can eat taint! lol Loved it for racing but other games....... nightmares. HUD issues and the fact its hardly supported.. And I hated breaking my neck to play games.

[glad tree]

7700x + 4070TiS for 1440p epic graphics, good build?

[vapid wigeon]

It'll work fine. 😛

[glad tree]

Good

[high quarry]

better than mine in theory (I only have 7800XT, which is a whole tier below)

[flat brook]

It'll work great, 13700K + 4070Ti-S here on 3440x1440, so if you're going 2560x1440 you should have absolutely 0 worries

[sly lotus]

Exact same build as me except I run just a 4070S

[high quarry]

15-20% difference.

[heady ridge]

I remembered that this game is pretty demanding on hardware but then remembered it pales in comparison to some of those flight or driving simulator games...

[glad tree]

Thank you guys for helping for the build

[graceful acorn]

No matter the build, do settlements just always have poor FPS? I have a 3080 Ti + i7 12700k with DDR5 RAM and Garbage especially runs so poorly. Open world is butter and camps and such don’t cause issue

[flint perch]

does anyone has a massive fps drop at rostok? Everytime i'm there or load up a save there, it took ages to load or fps drop massively

[upper harbor]

anywhere with lots of npc will cause fps drop, same for me at the cooling tower when mercs and monolith consistently spawn

[knotty rose]

man this game looks 1000x better with the newest dlss .dll (3.8.10) and dlss 3.5 ray reconstruction .dll(3.7.20) and enabled in the ,ini file. wish i played like this from the start

[hoary crane]

wish i could run it smoothly on other settings than lowest :(

[knotty rose]

lol i feel yea sure there are a bunch of tweaks that can have a nice performance gain

[hoary crane]

one second i have 60-100 next one i have 8!

everything lowest, frame gen off, upscaling on ultra performance

idfk i feel like i tried everything people told me to do atp

its miserable

ok guys i have an update on my situation, basically

lowest settings upscaling on ultra performance, changing res doesnt help, after saving and reloading my fps come back for a while, i have performance ini, mods.

any ideas how to make this game playable? closed all background apps

[steep hatch]

Buddy if you're getting that bad of performance out of those kinda spec's there has to be something majorly wrong on your end, I just have a 5700X3D & Radeon 5700XT (8gb) and I can easily run @ 1080p/ Combination of Medium and High settings, FSR Quality + Framegen, and easily get 60+ outside of towns, and in towns it will drop to about 45-55ish.

And thats with only 2 pak file modes from nexus, one of the very first optimization paks made by I francisco or something like that, and then the Noshader Comp mod.

The worst issue I have is the menu's tanking performance. literally I can be at 70fps, press escape or go into my bag and instant half or more in framerate. Its weird..

[knotty rose]

all depends on what you have

[dry atlas]

Dang, 7800xt with TSR and I’m getting around 40-55 fps on 1080p

Is something wrong with my system or is it just how intense this game is?

[wispy trench]

probably your cpu is nit enough, also FG or not?

[hoary crane]

1440p 3060 i5 11400, just got like 2h of gameplay without any of those stuters but now gotta reload the save file once again to get my frames back

vram, ram usually at 80%, cpu usage drops down to NOTHING when the spikes happen

[dry atlas]

Got a i7 12700kf, so I don’t think it would be. And no I don’t have FG on, I couldn’t hit anything with the input lag haha

[wispy trench]

yes your CPU is definitely giving you a bottleneck to a degree (even x3d chips do so just going intel means its more than just a bit), no FG explains also the FPS do a degree. But overall for 1080 you have to have more so its CPU

[serene meteor]

Ok guys, found the issue after some testing i don't know why or how, but disabling frame gen removes the lag after talking to npcs. If anyone else experiences lag [fps drops like the game switching to slideshow mode] disable frame gen when in town/ talking to npcs

[knotty rose]

so the game does have a memory leak. those stutters you feel in you running out of vram because the game is not releasing back to the gpu. i got a 4080 s and i have to keep an eye on the vram usage one it get to 80% i restart if i let it get to 90 then i usually crashed or locks up.2hr straght sound about right for me also

[hoary crane]

so my only choice is to wait for more patches for smoother gameplay?

[knotty rose]

for a memory leak yeah. nothing we can do. it has to get patched out.

[hoary crane]

fantastic...

[knotty rose]

out side of that does it run smooth?

[hoary crane]

when no memory leaks i get around 120 fps w/ frame gen, down to 60 in settlements with very low input delay

on 3440x1440

[sand seal]

does anyone have a fix for the massive fps drops, i go from like 120 to 9 fps so quickly, especially in the town (i have 3070 Ti and 7800x3D) with 32GB of DDR5

[spare coral]

There is no def fix for it yet

[sand seal]

oh alr thanks

[gilded vortex]

Hey has anyone got an intel arc b580 yet?

I wondered how Stalker 2 played with it

[flat brook]

His 12700K should be fine, Intel chips are likely still favored in S2 for god knows what reason.

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Stalker-2-Spiel-34596/Specials/Release-Test-Review-Steam-Benchmarks-Day-0-Patch-1459736/6/

this is day 0, but considering they haven’t done any official optimization patches yet, I believe this still stands true

[wispy trench]

in the link you showed me his CPU is 68fps vs 9800x3d 90+ fps, intel is not favoured

[lavish mason]

Price per performance maybe?

[lapis niche]

Any word on when the next patch will drop? Been like 12 days since the last one

[flat brook]

So a 13600K outperforming the 7800X3D looks normal to you?

[lavish mason]

No

[flat brook]

Because it looks to me like X3D chips aren’t being properly utilized, thus favoring the raw single core performers more

[wispy trench]

not nornal for sure but knowing 9800x3d does bottleneck as well, i can guarantee 12700f bittlenecks significantly more, which is my point initially

additionally his performance is in the ballpart of that cpu benchmark, if you take into account otger variables like memory, how and where the benchmark was done, you can very easily conclude CPU is limiting his frame output

[flat brook]

The 9800X3D definitely does not bottleneck

[wispy trench]

sure 😄 we can agree to disagree

[flat brook]

Less about agreeing to disagree, but if the 9800X3D bottlenecks, then my 13700K should as well, when it doesn’t

[wispy trench]

it definitelly does, for sure not in every place in the game

[flat brook]

We’ve also seen first hand here from Colsey that his 9800X3D doesn’t bottleneck his GPU, regardless of where he is

[wispy trench]

its easier to get back to "agreeing" 😄

[flat brook]

My GPU usage hasn’t gone below 98% in Rostok, Zalissya, Pripyat, Yanov not anywhere else, how is that a CPU bottleneck?

[wispy trench]

are you using his resolution?

[flat brook]

I don’t really care much for easy, more for factual statements

[wispy trench]

he is going for 1080p

[flat brook]

3440x1440, but even at 1920x1080 borderless I still don’t bottleneck in the sense that you’re talking about here

[wispy trench]

okay👌

[flat brook]

Bottleneck ≠ CPU limited, is all I’m trying to say

[lavish mason]

You're maxing your GPU usage, the CPU becomes the limiter to that last bit of performance. 100 percent GPU with a slower CPU equals slightly less frames than a 100 percent GPU with a faster cpu

[wispy trench]

there is no place for arguing about that statement

[lavish mason]

It's deffo overblown when people discuss upgrading CPUs tbh

[flat brook]

While that is true, it’s a very niche phenomenon that isn’t usually case in point when people talk about CPU bottlenecks

[wispy trench]

in stalker2 cpu limitation is far from a niche phenomenon, but people mostly suffer in hub areas

[lavish mason]

Not at all, it applies to all use cases with a small frame difference, it's deffo not something to worry about though. Except with massively mismatched components

Niche performance difference sure

[lapis niche]

It can vary from game to game how big of a difference it will make. But in general your best bet is to focus on the GPU first

[lavish mason]

Yeah

Like I've got a pretty meh CPU for my GPU so a sneaky upgrade to a cheap x3d chip will unlock some frames and it's a decent upgrade path for notalot of money

[wispy trench]

also in his example there is defnitelly situations where he is GpU limited, but his GpU should be enough for 1080p lol

[flat brook]

What I mean by niche, is that when most people are able to push their GPU to 90% usage and above.

Yes NPC hubs can be absolutely taxing on some particular chips and the generations below them, but I don’t see people with 5700X3Ds not being able to 99% their 3060s even in Rostok. Might be my data pool, but my point still stands that a 12700K is more than capable enough to not become CPU bound, even in Rostok

[wispy trench]

i put a lot of thought into the fact that he is doing 1080p, ngl that is a very important point here

[flat brook]

We should make a mandatory “Use Riva and show stats” thing for posting about performance issues here

[wispy trench]

here we can agree

[spare coral]

The videos people uploaded are showing that it does like 8fps less than a 4060 on stalker tuah

[gilded vortex]

That's not bad, I have a 4060. Awaiting my 12600k.

[spare coral]

Yeah and it just released so maybe with better drivers it could reach same performance? Who knows

[gilded vortex]

I was intrigued, thought about getting one due to more VRAM

But seeing as stalker uses around 6-7gb vram I'm ok at the mo. See if intel releases a higher end gpu

[deep spindle]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[unborn otter]

#📰┃announcement

[plucky quail]

I Hope u are not saying in there that u would get more fps with a better CPU even if the gpu is all the time 100% usage.

[marble jackal]

Will the game run on 5090 in native 1080p without frame gen?

[pseudo blade]

1080 nativ? Dont think so

[sand nimbus]

Its 2025. Gaming at native resolution is considered gay

[fading stone]

down-upscale or go bust

[plucky quail]

Yea upscale me daddy

[signal ridge]

Realising Windows Update on W11 machines for some reason force downgrades your AMD chipset drivers to a Feburary 2024 patch instead of the latest October patch

[lavish mason]

Re convos the other day, I've turned off fsr in game and turned on fsr2 in driver. 10 FPS boost for similar quality.

now I also tried turning off native aa frame gen ( while in game) . And boy it messed up the image. Looked like it suddenly lost half it's pixels to noise, like what a really really slow path traced image looks like.

[rare temple]

Best bet is check the #📰┃announcement channel. They will post in there when a patch has been released, but not when an upcoming patch will be released. Otherwise, no one knows when the next patch is going to be released.

[plucky quail]

Yea thats how games are made now just in the end a big TAA smear just you dont gonna see it. And TAA makes all blurry.

[lavish mason]

I miss crisp, no depth of field effect, no vignette gaming

[plucky quail]

They should make the game without Lumen and nanite. The game is Stable nothing is destructible so making shadow in a static game would look good and give us ton of performance. But ofc its easyer to not do that and just making DLCs.

[blazing cape]

That'd be FSR1 in driver, which is a simpler upscale without previous frame information 👀

[plucky quail]

The thing is FSR in this is really bad made. The devs did really not bother much. It has TSR and that works. Could be why they didnt bother much. Only few games do it right what makes it really mostly a miss. But its not that bad both TSR and FSR are basically the same. The only reason why FSR is in is cus of the FG.

[austere crane]

i'm testing Windows 11 23H2 vs 24H2 performance

[shut elbow]

2010 piss filter says hello

[tulip anchor]

Hey, dunno if you fixed your issue but I fixed mine and I still can't believe it, just repasted the cpu with some thermalright tf7 and temps are insanely good (I had this corsair aio for only 8 months the preapplied paste must be insanely bad)

from 97~100°c to 70~80°c with i9 14900K x Corsair H150i Elite

[austere crane]

nice! yeah the preapplied paste sucks, although that's exceptionally bad and was probably the result of uneven pressure as well

[tulip anchor]

no idea tbh I think the paste really sucked bad I never had any issue before it just appeared near stalker 2 release

maybe there was an air pocket or something, was thermal throttling insanely hard even with huge undervolting/underclocking thought my cpu was frying

[high quarry]

I usually always do a custom paste job, this time KPX with the 9800x3D

its 60-65C under 30-40% load at 5.415ghz

https://i.imgur.com/KfhkWKa.png

[tulip anchor]

https://imgur.com/ZWJsdeV had this kind of temps before changing the paste (wasn't on the game when I took the screenshot, temps went from 40 to 100°c in 10 seconds)

[high quarry]

20C is quite a drastic change. Were there patchy spots, and was the paste very hard?

[tulip anchor]

No the paste seemed ok to me, I used a contact frame so some of it went to the side of the cpu but other than that it seemed normal

[high quarry]

Oh well, its good practice to do it once a year anyway on high wattage CPUs.

[tulip anchor]

Yeah I will do it correctly now for sure haha I just thought I had one of theses 13-14 gen i9 with issues cos I had to underclock it for it to be stable

[high quarry]

on lower watt parts, its usually fine for 2y+

its also why more people are transitioning to those graphene pads

[wet stirrup]

720p medium, take it or leave it

[high quarry]

I would guess 120, but we dont really know.

[late robin]

When i first ran the game on my setup, i got major frame drops in settlements on higher graphics, now however all of a sudden when i set the graphics in the new Nvidia app i have very little frame dips in settlements and never when out in the zone.
Did the stalker 2 drivers not come with the previous Nvidia app?

[dry atlas]

Ah ok I got it thanks for the info dude

[wispy trench]

but just turn frame gen and see if its ok for you like that

[high quarry]

I am still yet to see a real CPU bottleneck, but apparently it will be very obvious in Yaniv, so we will see.

[austere crane]

i believe the app itself got an update shortly after the drivers came out w/ the optimized profiles for stalker 2

[glass vault]

believe it came out a week ago

[blissful mason]

asus maximus hero Z690-13900k 32GB 6200mhz an 4090 4K monitor max settings installed by xbox app. ive never played such a crash happy game even after the update had to reinstall 3 times as it corrupted the files an id need to mod the game just so i could fix the files ... anyone else had this amount of disappointment ??

[glass vault]

i wouldn't say disapointed. im loving the game i even played the whole game start to finish but there are alot of bugs that need to be fixed. i maybe crash every 2-5 hours of gameplay. crashing should stop after the memory leak gets patched

[blissful mason]

least your having fun then lol just annoying trying to do missions an it crashing an messing up saves an corrupting files for me so its a try an have fun but expect crashes an reinstalls 😦 😦

[glass vault]

most of my crashes are memory leak related. had my save corrupt a few times but constantly save to keep it at bay

[blissful mason]

take two steps save ... take two more steps save

[glass vault]

i have been saving every minute or two

[blissful mason]

they need more save slots lol 🙂

[lost owl]

In 60hrs playtime only one crash. I guess it depends on luck maybe

[blissful mason]

hmmm guess ive run out a long time ago then ...

[glass vault]

i used quick saves f5 is your friend

[high quarry]

I have had one crash, but I think it was my fault, while testing an overclock.

[lapis gale]

0 problems on steam never had to verify or crash

9800x3d and 4090

[blissful mason]

typical xbox\windows then

[hard juniper]

i'm glad the game at least runs well on the most expensive specs available

[high quarry]

You dont need a 4090 or anything though, runs well enough on mid-range GPU paired with high end CPU.

[lapis gale]

I mean even a 4060 can run high settings in 1080p

The 4060 was meant for 1080p anyway

It’s a low end gpu so obviously it can’t run 100 fps on epic settings

[high quarry]

This is me right now on a 7800XT
https://i.imgur.com/uTisgCE.jpeg

[hard juniper]

yeah the game "runs" on a lot of low end systems, doesn't mean it runs well

it's a coin toss whether someone will have issues or not

[lapis gale]

He said mid end

[hard juniper]

and i was talking about high and low end

[lapis gale]

A 4060 can easily run 45 fps 1080p high

[stable kite]

What if NVIDIA has a driver problem look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVV9yaY-v5A

[hard juniper]

sure until it gets to towns

[lapis gale]

Nope works fine in towns in HIGH

[high quarry]

6750XT has 12GB VRAM.

[lapis gale]

In ultra it would run out of vram

[hard juniper]

yeah nah

[high quarry]

You cannot run native Epic in 8GB VRAM properly

[lapis gale]

That’s what I said

It can run high not ultra

I have a 4060 and a few amd gpus aswell

[high quarry]

Even high is a stretch, unless upscaled with lower textures

because people turn on framegen, and that eats more VRAM.

[spare coral]

High already gets super close to 8gbs of vram

[high quarry]

It's not a suprise the 12GB Intel B580 cards sold out so quick.

[spare coral]

You will prolly run out of it after playing for a little

[lapis gale]

I haven’t used my other gpus in so long but I will take them out of their boxes just to prove wrong

My 4090 has had no problems at all and I doubt the 4060 will either just gotta lower settings

[high quarry]

They chug along happily using 7.5GB VRAM, then have something load in that causes it to overlflow into RAM, usually which is already pretty pressued, which causes disk paging, and then its a slideshow.

[spare coral]

I mean, im just going from what a lot of other people said here about their 8gbs cards running out of vram and dipping their frames to the 20s

Im using high textures with framegen on and it hovers around 8gb to 9gbs

[uneven portal]

Yea now is nvidia problem XD

[lapis gale]

I’ve had 0 problems

[uneven portal]

Same

The problems are whit the cpu on my case

[high quarry]

I am at 9GB now, with mixed settings, upscaled 1440.

[spare coral]

Never ran out of vram with my rx 6700 but a lot of people with 4060s or 3070 are running out and having slideshows so no idea

[lapis gale]

Just closed background apps that were using 2.5 gb and I’m at 7 gb of usage

So any 4060 users are just user error

[nocturne shore]

FHD or 2K ?

[lapis gale]

3440x1440

[nocturne shore]

And settings? Ultra?

[lapis gale]

Correct

[plucky quail]

True the error is buying the card.

Also don’t think there are people that pull 3,5gb of vram just of background program and if windows would pretty much cut it for the game.

[lapis gale]

My browser was using around 2 gb by it self

[plucky quail]

There is no way that u pull only 7gb with 1440p ultra. Did u just jump in game and looked how much gb or did u play it for longer

And no dlss

[lapis gale]

No dlss or frame gen

[plucky quail]

How long was the test?

[lapis gale]

Didn’t time it

[gilded vortex]

You folks reckon I should swap my 4060 for a b580 or just wait. ....

[high quarry]

its not a huge upgrade

[gilded vortex]

I was just thinking about VRAM. That's the only thing that would.change

I don't want a super duper card I game at 1080p

[uneven portal]

then stick with what you have, I mean a 4060 can play anything in ultra as long as it's not a poorly optimized unreal game.

[high quarry]

Dunno how B580 supply is gonna be. Might be worth going for a 7700XT. Generally that is 40% faster than 4060 aswell

[gilded vortex]

I'll wait for either the 5000 series or an Intel successor to the b850

Oooh.AMD 😦

[high quarry]

I run a 7800XT

[uneven portal]

just wait and see what happens, we don't know how the new generation will turn out.

[gilded vortex]

I only used to.run ati stuff as its all.i could afford

[uneven portal]

my friend did too until it burned out due to a manufacturing error and amd started to disclaim warranties.

[high quarry]

Mine has been rock solid. Powercolor hellhound, runs quite cool too.

[gilded vortex]

I sold my 6600xt and got the 4060, never looked back lol

[high quarry]

6600XT was 3060/Arc A750 level 🙂

[uneven portal]

why, you buy a 4060

[gilded vortex]

Got a great deal

[uneven portal]

like what 200 euros?

[high quarry]

but yeh.. I wouldnt side-grade to anything below this:

https://i.imgur.com/gUR95Ew.png

[uneven portal]

Is it just me, or are people getting used to updating way too quickly?

[high quarry]

Mostly just the people with 8GB cards

[uneven portal]

The thing about VRAM is that people aren't even aware of what it actually means, and they upgrade to a GPU that has the same performance but more VRAM.💀

[high quarry]

yeh..

[gilded vortex]

So they aren't bottlenecks by low vram

4060 should have had 12

[high quarry]

it should, but people looking at B580 should be on a tight budget, coming from 2070/3060 and below

its still entry level tier..

[uneven portal]

The short answer is yes, it should have had more, but that doesn’t change the fact that 8GB is still decent, and many people simply can’t bring themselves to lower texture quality from ultra to high

[high quarry]

It's gonna be worse for people with an 8GB 5060, thinking they are future proofed.

[uneven portal]

I solved my problem—I simply added more VRAM to my 4070 Ti. I had the necessary slots XD.

It's not something many can do, but I know someone who managed to pull it off. It's so straightforward that it really shows how Nvidia just wants to shorten the lifespan of their GPUs.

[high quarry]

Was it + 2 x 2gb?

[uneven portal]

yea...

[high quarry]

Micron from a donor card or something?

[uneven portal]

My friend works at PC Componentes, the main distributor in Spain, so don’t ask where from.

[gilded vortex]

Is the ram BGA I presume?

[high quarry]

yeh, usually something like this:

https://tpucdn.com/gpu-specs/images/c/3950-pcb-front.jpg

[gilded vortex]

Ahh yeah i can't solder again stuff..yet

[plucky quail]

IF you dont pay anything extra while selling the 4060 Yes

[gilded vortex]

Hmmmm

[plucky quail]

The 4060 least in EU gets sold around 230-270€ Used (Germany) If sold for 250€ it would be worth it.

[gilded vortex]

Yes it would but I'm uk

I'd have to sell card for £259

[high quarry]

I'd be looking at one of these:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-speedster-swft-319-16gb-gddr6-ray-tracing-graphics-card-rdna2-3840-streams-210?utm_source=pc part picker&utm_medium=referral

https://computerorbit.com/products/12gb-gigabyte-rx-7700-xt-gaming-oc-graphics-card?ref=PCPP&shpxid=1be6e33b-0f32-4167-9828-e7a5aa216fa3

but then thats prob 130 over what you would get for 4060

[gilded vortex]

Thank you

[glass vault]

the b580 is better than the 4060 good to see intel coming back

[gilded vortex]

Yeah it is

[gaunt bane]

2080 problems to run the game

[high quarry]

an 8GB 2080 will be in the same boat as a 4060.

Only 2080 ti / 3080 would get some VRAM releif

[glass vault]

12gb is looking to be the new bare minimum for new games

[high quarry]

The BOM from 8GB to 16GB is something like +$30

[plucky quail]

For how much can you buy a 4060? We buy it at +300€

[high quarry]

Prob a bit higher in UK, 310-320 EUR starting

[gilded vortex]

£270

That's new

They go on ebay for 230-250

Used

[plucky quail]

Guys do you know when the next update will come? I want to play the game but some stuff should be fixed befor i start a new Game. The story was the only thing that would let me play it and after the end i cant do it anymore. Also the FPS are not good right now i lost one Ramstick to well Heat. This game heats my Room in no time. You could imagine how hot it is in the Case. 16GB Ram i have now. Prypjat was huge loss on frames.

[plucky quail]

Thats bad how do you guys buy it cheaper. I thought the Prices in UK are worst then US or EU.

[high quarry]

270 is 325 EUR

[plucky quail]

Wow it is i thouht it would be 300€

[gilded vortex]

In UK B580 £250, US $250

Rip off Britain lol

[high quarry]

Trade is much more difficult for them now.

[plucky quail]

Use the King as bargain for GPUs.

[gilded vortex]

What like hold him to ransom for a 4090? 😅😅

[fleet wraith]

I went from a 1080 to a 3090 to a 4090 and I'll go to the 5090 because I have brain problems. Thankfully got the 1080, 3090 and 4090 at msrp

[glass vault]

i went from a 1060 to a 3080ti hopefully a 5090 next

that felt like a major upgrade

[fleet wraith]

I do full rebuilds every 4 years and halo cards every 2 assuming good uplift

It's why I skipped the 2000 series. I wasn't impressed

[glass vault]

every 2 generations seems like a sweet spot now i need the extra vram

[high quarry]

1060 -> 3070 -> 7800XT

[gilded vortex]

8gb used to be fine.....now it's 12gb minimum 😦 I can deal.with 1080p but low / medium textures in games, come on

[high quarry]

next will prob be either a 5080, or 7900xtx

[gilded vortex]

In wonder If stalker will run on my radeon 9600pro lol

[fleet wraith]

3090 to 4090 was enough of an uplift it was worth it especially with frame gen

[gilded vortex]

Yean that framegen is a beast

[fleet wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/7tPeN7B.jpeg

New build with the only piece left needing to be redone is the 5090

[glass vault]

true it was like a 80% uplift its gonna be a big difference when the 5090 drops

[gilded vortex]

Amd dlss is nice plus the RT performance is good

[glass vault]

im liking fsr frame gen

[high quarry]

Ideally I would want an 8900XT with better RT, but it likely wont exist.

[glass vault]

sadly doesn't seem like the 8900xt will exist but 8800xt seems to be a 50% ish faster in RT than the 7900xt or 7900xtx

[worn carbon]

is 55-65fps good in 2k native on epic preset?

[high quarry]

without framegen, yes

[worn carbon]

eh, my guess is it will be +-15% better in rasterisation than rx 7900xt or 7900xtx and 40-55% better in rt perfomance than rx 7900xtx, basically it will be an 7900xtx with 4080 like rtx

[worn carbon]

with framegen 115-130

[high quarry]

sounds like 7900xt/xtx levels

[glass vault]

my bad meant to say in ray tracing

[worn carbon]

i do have rx 7900xt

bought it a few days ago to replace my rx 6750 xt

[plucky quail]

You gonna demand the 5090. To be able to make your own Zone as the C-Consciousness in the UK. And after you have it you make every body to Monolith just you can play Minecraft at 10000 FPS without anybody disturbing you.

[worn carbon]

5090 will be like a 4k native 120hz gaming type of gpu..but fr why does it need 32gb of ram besides workload purposes

i mean also the price will be bigger than 4090 by 1.5x at least and let me tell you something, the price on 4090 won't become lower for another 2-3 years

[glass vault]

probably due to the generation leap of gddr7 similar to how ddr5 is 8gb dimms as the bare minimum

[worn carbon]

makes senses considering the change from ddr6 to ddr7

[plucky quail]

The 32GB is so you can use it as the GPU that operates Your made C-Consciousness and your Minecraft game

[worn carbon]

sadly for me the new gen gpu's are locked.
Just coped an 7900xt for 760 Euros so i won't need to upgrade in at least 2 years time for sure.

[plucky quail]

Thats the Workstation task

[austere crane]

it makes sense, at 4k native, there are games that can hit 20+ gb of vram allocation easily, and that's right now. a bit of future proofing is nice

would feel nice to go beyond the "juuuuust enough" point with your $2000+ GPU purchase :p

[flint spoke]

5090 would be pointless for me since idgaf about 4k. I'd upgrade my cpu way before going up to 50 series

graphics would be about the same in this game and perf wouldn't be any better if I had a 5090 with the same cpu

[austere crane]

everybody's got their unique situation. personally i have a 9800x3d and a 3080 ti. basically i have a Corvette ZR1 with half the cylinders deactivated

[flint spoke]

I kind of feel like consoles have made devs optimize for 60fps and give up

tho cpus have always lagged behind gpus I guess, as some have pointed out for example, fo4 on release it was difficult to get like 70 fps in some areas of boston. but now its easy to get 100fps or more

framegen is great but its also used often as a bandaid for questionable perf

[flint spoke]

imo you need a top of the line cpu and mid line gpu these days unless you are trying to play at 4k

most games bottleneck on cpu first from my experience, tho that may just be my preference in games

[flint spoke]

yeah. i skip every other gen these days.

like minimum, I would have skipped 30 and 40 series but I had an accident with a fan and it destroyed my gpu 😂 so i only skipped 30 series

buts its fine, most likely ill have no money to get a 50 series anyway so it all worked out in the end

is it just me or is dlss fg is just god awful? my friend say its like this in all games

like the input latency is noticeably worse than fsr fg

or is it just broken on my machine or maybe in this game? super confused.

[fleet wraith]

I do both 4k and 1440pUW, both of which the higher tier GPU help. I just got the 9800x3d to help with lows

[flint spoke]

like I would have figured dlssfg would be better than fsr fg on a 40 series but uhhh apparently not?

[fleet wraith]

It is in basically every game

I've never seen FSR FG be better, especially when you turn reflex on with it to drop the input

[glass vault]

it is better than FSR FG like some car tail lights not strobing lik FSR FG but these are cherry picked examples

[fleet wraith]

Usually higher frames and better overall graphical fidelity with dlssfg

[flint spoke]

the latency feels so much worse even with reflex that I just use fsr fg instead

but i am super sensitive so it could be like 2ms worse latency (or even less)

idk maybe i should try it again lol

[flint spoke]

do i need to reboot the game for it to work right maybe?

[fleet wraith]

Possibly if you have a memory leak

[flint spoke]

🤔 idk, doesnt usually that mean your ram eventually goes to max and the fps tanks? im not seeing that

[fleet wraith]

But I've basically never heard anyone say that the AMD implementation is better

[fleet wraith]

Ram or VRAM can fill up

If it's decoupled you could get higher frames with dlss + AMD FG because of how AMD FG works, but because it's only using game data it generally has worse fidelity especially around lighting

It usually depends on the implementation. Stalker is a Nvidia game so I'd expect dlss FG to generally end up better

[worn carbon]

Rx 7900 xt / r7 5700x / 4x8Gb of ram (32) and all of this for 1440p.

[agile cipher]

i7-13700FK CPU, 1.5TB M.2 SSD, RTX 4080 SUPER

64GB DDR5 RAM, running on two 1080p 144HZ monitors

[worn carbon]

Ur a joke if you actually run this setil using 1080p monitors...

[plucky quail]

Bro runs 1000$ Gpu at 1080p.
Why did u get Nvidia 1000$ card?
Get a 4k monitor and if u want the performance of the 1080p then run on performance dlss.

[agile cipher]

gang i cant afford a 4k high hz monitor yet

[agile cipher]

I will be upgrading, eventually

I was looking at the Samsung Odyssey Neo

4k UHD 240hz

I bought the monitors way back when I had a GTX 1070

[glass vault]

i got the neo g8 im liking it. shit is insanely bright can light my room at night

[agile cipher]

Problem is that I already have two massive monitors

I'd feel upset if I couldn't get two of the same monitor

[glass vault]

i got two 32" monitors this is more than enough for me

[agile cipher]

Yeah but having two different monitors feels weird, I also would like both of my monitors to be the same height

[glass vault]

yeah i feel you having two of the same size monitors and resolution is a must

[agile cipher]

So looks like I'll be saving up for two Neo G8

Or similiar priced monitors with similar specs (200+ Hz / 4k UHD)

[glass vault]

the neo g7 is the same just 165hz

[agile cipher]

yeah thats not gonna cut it, needs to be higher Hz than I have now, a good amount

[glass vault]

i got mine via student discounts for less than half off

[deft imp]

4070's good w 4k?

[serene meteor]

no

[deft imp]

What's it good with then

[hearty pollen]

7800xtx/7900xtx or 4080 and above.

[serene meteor]

i mean, if you want to run the game with DLAA, everything maxed out you can't run with 4070s. Probably with upscaling and not maxed out graphs

[spring scaffold]

1440p is where I am staying 4ever.

[serene meteor]

i need to buy a 2k monitor

im using the oled tv i already had when i bought my pc

[hearty pollen]

all the 4070s do bad in 4k honestly. I guess th 4070ti S can do okayish.

[spring scaffold]

4k is overrated imo and everything above that. I would only go for that if I would be super rich and get absolute best gpu and cpu that exists. Well, or if I am playing on a very big screen. But for gaming, everything above 27inch is too much for me. And that is a sweet spot for 1440p

[hearty pollen]

eeeh, everone said 1440p was overrrated too at some point

[spring scaffold]

Nah because difference is huge if you switch to bigger screen. But who is going to play games on something like 32inch and more. That is where 4k actually makes noticeable difference, not on smaller screens

[serene meteor]

I play on a 48...

[hearty pollen]

The exact same was said with 1440p too.

screens will only be bigger and bigger, same with res

[spring scaffold]

Well I switched to bigger screen and that is why I play 1440p

[glass vault]

32" is a good sweet spot for monitors but TVs can only go bigger

[spring scaffold]

Yeah but will you game as a PC gamer on like very huge screen. I have 32inch monitor under my bed, it is too big dude for me

[glass vault]

48 in is way to big for my desk i couldn't see all of it

[serene meteor]

I'm still using it just because it was the TV I used with the PS5, but now Im saving money to get a 31/32 2k monitor

its not all that bad, for the PC, the downside is it being a 4k TV

[spring scaffold]

Maybe 32inch could go trought. But I had to go to 27inch. While if you are on console, you probably want a bigger screen, like tv dimensions and enjoy hig res experience. I played red dead redemption 2 on 4k screen on my tv 43 inch Sick graphics

[serene meteor]

even my 4080s strugle in some games

[spring scaffold]

But as a PC gamer I dont see myself using more then 27inch, even that is like big cap. I almost wanted to go to 24inch

That is why I feel like 1440p suits me and I dont see a reason for 4k. Besides I dont play games only for its beauty

[glass vault]

24in for 1080p, 27for 2k, 32 for 4k for that pixel density

[hearty pollen]

All of this is like reading when 1440p became i thing. Its unavoidable with higher res, at some point

[spring scaffold]

I dont know. I played 4k and its not for me on screens like 27inch and bellow

I do have 4k 27inch side monitor btw so thats how I form my opinion

[glass vault]

im using my 4k monitor to also watch shows double use case

[spring scaffold]

Also, I am thinking to buy rtx 4070 ti super. I dont know if it is worth it going from rtx 3070 right now. Not sure when are 5 series coming out

[glass vault]

5000 series is announced at CES 2025 aka january

[spring scaffold]

Then I might wait aswell

Probably getting 5070 or something lol

[glass vault]

5070 or 5070ti seem decent

[spring scaffold]

Yeah, wonder if my cpu R9 5900x will be good enough for that gpu. I think it will hold it decently

[glass vault]

should be just might cap it via CPU

[spring scaffold]

Otherwise, I have to upgrade everything

[sly lotus]

If they don’t get immediately scalped

Flash backs to the 30 series launch

[spring scaffold]

True. I could get a 4070 ti super or even 4080 if prices drop a bit then

[sly lotus]

I got a 4070S for like $560~

Cheaper than when I upgraded to my 3070 before I did a new build

[spring scaffold]

I was thinking about it. Rtx 3070 biggest minus is 8gb of vram

Otherwise is a good gpu

[hearty pollen]

yeah, im already struggling heavily in 1440p with my 4070. 12 is simply not enough

[sly lotus]

It held up for me for a while. Did fine in pretty much every game I enjoyed. But I did a whole new build and went for a 4070S since I found a decent price for it.

[spring scaffold]

Yeah, makes sense.

[sly lotus]

Do you use DLSS? Kinda sounds weird. Could be a CPU bottleneck

[glass vault]

im probably not going to do a full upgrade until ryzen does another big core count increase

[spring scaffold]

I think 12gb vram on GPU is enough tbh

[sly lotus]

It is, for 1440p it’s fine, especially paired with a decent CPU.

[hearty pollen]

Nah, 7800x3d. Its just that im constantly at 10-11gb and there is room for more grahpics

[sly lotus]

Sounds like a background app problem? Maybe you watch videos or streams while you’re playing? I haven’t heard that from a 4070, usually 3070’s have that issue.

Computers are wonky. Two exact same systems can vary dramatically sometimes. Pretty funny.

[fleet wraith]

I upgraded from the 5900x to the 9800x3d because it was holding back my 4090

[hearty pollen]

no, not more than 0.7-1gb to misc. Anything 2024 games tends to chew 10gb.

[sly lotus]

Unfortunate if true.

[spring scaffold]

Oh yeah 4090 is different world dude. That gpu demands new cpu lol

[sly lotus]

I haven’t had any issues even on my 3070 with modern games. But that was at 1080.

[fleet wraith]

Yeah I skipped the 7000 series and glad I did. Next month I'm going for the 5090 because of brain problems

[sly lotus]

But struggling varies, some people think 60fps is low now. I’m not one of those people. I’ll play a good single player game at 30fps if the game feels good and is smoothe.

[spring scaffold]

Bro, you are good with those specs atleast for 3 years. I would wait for 6 series lol

Even more tbh

[fleet wraith]

Nah I can afford it and it's cheaper than a coke habit

I do full rebuilds every 4 years and halo cards every 2

Old systems go to friends and family for cheap, win win

[spring scaffold]

Well yeah then its alright. If you are financially good or get some sort of connections to get them extra cheap

[sly lotus]

That’s what I do, when I upgrade my system I give my parts to family so they don’t have to buy any. Makes the price less painful for me.

[fleet wraith]

No connections just financially in a great place

[spring scaffold]

Thank God for that dude

[fleet wraith]

I went 1080 to 3090 FE to 4090 FE

[glass vault]

3.50 for the 4090

[fleet wraith]

Got both at msrp on launch

[spring scaffold]

I am not in bad place myself, but still I dont want to just buy all of that, as I dont really need the best of the best

[sly lotus]

Bro fuels Nvidia

[sly lotus]

I’ll do a GPU upgrade every 2 years and a CPU upgrade every major generation. Jumped from a 5700x to a 7700x

[fleet wraith]

I run a 4k120 and a 1440pUW144

[sly lotus]

It’s worked out fine for me so far, probably overkill for what I play, but honestly it’s fine with me

[spring scaffold]

Nice, must be fun

I usually skip one generation

[fleet wraith]

I always knew I was skipping the 7000 series. I remember when older DDRs were released and all the voltage issues so I was always going to skip round one of AM5

[spring scaffold]

If I get really good gpu I have to literally replace everything lol

[hearty pollen]

7000 series was great tho, virtually nothing wrong with them. but 9000 is crazy

[sly lotus]

Getting a new CPU from Am4 to 5 was roughhhhh

[spring scaffold]

I am still on am4 motherboard

[sly lotus]

I don’t blame you, it’s like a 250-400$ investment before the CPU

[glass vault]

9000 was really a power efficiency boost

[fleet wraith]

Yeah but I generally don't trust first of any arch. Worked out for me so far. I've been building for 20+ years

[spring scaffold]

I dont want to swap unless I will have to. So I will see if I will get 5070 how will do with r9 5900x, or maybe 4070 ti super when prices drops. Need to check some videos

[fleet wraith]

Posted before but picture of the new build: https://i.imgur.com/7tPeN7B.jpg

[glass vault]

light green and cyan are amazing colors

[spring scaffold]

Nice pc

[hearty pollen]

No disrespect, but i have never understood the RGB thing.

[spring scaffold]

The only thing I did not place in pc on my own is motherboard. So kinda afraid of that lol

[hearty pollen]

Its just visual noise for no reason.

[spring scaffold]

It just looks nice

[fleet wraith]

I have it as a CPU temperature sensor. Spectrum green to red

[glass vault]

same im gonna be swaping to a fractal define 7xl with steel panels i like brushed metal

[fleet wraith]

Once I'm confident my OCs are stable I can turn it back off

[hearty pollen]

Not the worst idea i have ever heard, but lights are a strange interest.

[fleet wraith]

They came on the parts. I have my tower under my desk so it doesn't cause issues either way

[agile cipher]

yo where can I buy stuff for less than half off with my student discounts

IVE GOT TWO .EDU EMAILS DAMNIT

[glass vault]

for monitors LG and samsung do major discounts everyone else give olike 25$ off

haven't used it much for pc hardware yet

[agile cipher]

yeah $25 off $750 aint gonna cut it

[hearty pollen]

Its something if nothing else available, tho

[agile cipher]

imma def check this out, thanks. If so Imma buy two of them bitches for like $700

[glass vault]

google samsung student discount program

[spring scaffold]

You guys think they will make more cpus for am4 or nah?

[hearty pollen]

Defo not, but 5600/57/58x3d are really damn strong

Likely to last years, and keeping up with most stuff.

[spring scaffold]

I think I will keep my r9 5900x for some time

X3d are good ones if you game only, but I do more then just game at once so I will keep 5900x

[glass vault]

i feel you i got the 7950x3d and i was doing media encoding for AV1 and it ate my entire cpu for over an hour

[hearty pollen]

They are good for gaming, generarl use and light productivity.

[hearty pollen]

I mean, if you let it use all cores. sure 😛 Thats the whole point, using one CCD for productivity, the other for misc

[glass vault]

apparently after 32 threads the encoder doesn't get faster

[wispy pollen]

i cannot get this game to run smooth

[hearty pollen]

Virtually nobody can. sadly

[wispy pollen]

i have a 4070 super. might as well be garbage

you need a 4090 for this game?

[spring scaffold]

And it does not run smooth? On what settings?

[hearty pollen]

It doesnt run smooth for the majority really.

[wispy pollen]

i tried on high. then medium

[spring scaffold]

Its crazy that I run 1440p high settings with gpu radeon 6700xt and r9 5900x cpu, most of timr like 60 to 100 fps

With fg enabled

[wispy pollen]

i even put it to 1440p and a storm comes in and my frames drop like nothing youve ever seen

[spring scaffold]

The game is just badly optimised aswell

[wispy pollen]

do you think they will come out with an update to fix this in the future?

[spring scaffold]

I dont know. Modders have added some mods for better optimization of game

[hearty pollen]

wait, put it to? are you trying higher than 1440p on a 4070?

[wispy pollen]

well at first i tried 4k yea

[spring scaffold]

Actoc, you are using dlss and fg?

1440p on high settings should work good for you on 4070S

[wispy pollen]

yes

[spring scaffold]

What cpu do you use? Is the gpu full utilized?

[wispy pollen]

i have only had a pc for about 4 months

i miss how simple Xbox was lol

[hearty pollen]

Yeah, 4k on a 4070 on newer titles is typically not worth it

[wispy pollen]

how in the hell is this game availble on consle

[spring scaffold]

1440p should work for him tho

[hearty pollen]

nah, not with a 4070

[spring scaffold]

Wait is it 4070 or 4070 super

[hearty pollen]

It runs really bad. its a S

[wispy pollen]

super

[hearty pollen]

But still, all 4070 cards have at best medicore framerate at anything past mediun in this game

[spring scaffold]

12 gb of vram?

[wispy pollen]

32

[hearty pollen]

yeah 12. Ti has 16

[spring scaffold]

I am using 6700xt radeon that is worst then my rtx 3070, the only thing better is vram, and I run this game smooth on 1440p high settings

12gb vram

[wispy pollen]

i dont understand, it just came out this year.,,,

[hearty pollen]

But that is a AMD card

[spring scaffold]

Yeah, is this game better with amd gpus or something?

[hearty pollen]

4070 is a bad card, and the game is hard to run. Nothing more than that really

I regret bying mine a lot

[wispy pollen]

can you swear on this server?

[hearty pollen]

??

[wispy pollen]

like do i get banned for swearing

[glass vault]

no see i can say shit

[wispy pollen]

well what a peice of shit

[spring scaffold]

Rtx 4070 is like in 50% better performance against 6700xt radeon

[hearty pollen]

Sure it is!

[wispy pollen]

its sad how much you have to fork out to play at 4k

[spring scaffold]

I just think there is something going on with this game on some nvidia gpus

[wispy pollen]

1440 isnt even that bad, but my game is still lagging

like rdr2 runs perfectly at 4k

[hearty pollen]

I mean, rdr2 isnt that demanding. Its old

[wispy pollen]

i know, but its still considered on of the best looking games

how does xbox still keep up but, my 3 month old pc cant

[hearty pollen]

eeeeh, its the most demanding resolution currently, its to be expected. I was honestly shocked when you said you bought a 4070s for 4k gaming.

[wispy pollen]

ill just have to upgrade i guess

[spring scaffold]

Stalker 2 is demanding and badly optimised, but if you can not run game on 4070S with dlss and fg on 1440p high settings, thats a completely on game.

Devs, that is

[spring scaffold]

I would not do it because of Stalker 2. For 1440p your gpu is fine

For 4k maybe an upgrade yes

[lapis gale]

It doesn’t

Consoles upscale from 1080p

[lost field]

ey yo i was able to run stalker 2 in my miserable HDD with an i5-7400 and a 1660ti, however its performance is CBT levels of shit

swaping out the i5 for an ryzen 7 5700x and the HDD to an nvme SSD should get me out of hell right (being able to play at medium)?

[knotty rose]

these kind of statments always tickle me....

[ruby rune]

kinda strange seeing this given that my 4 year old dell g5 can keep up with it, granted though i have that optimizer mod from nexusmods and DLSS in Performance

[lavish mason]

My playstation 4 runs stalker 2 fine sounds like a skill issue

[unborn otter]

Its not even on sony

[lavish mason]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joke-superman-flying-missing-the-joke-not-getting-the-joke-gif-16558902

[unborn otter]

A joke is supposed to be funny

[lavish mason]

You didn't get it which I found funny

[livid dome]

[flint spoke]

this game has shit cpu perf so your cpu is prob dying

[hearty pollen]

Yeah, no a 7800x3d isn't the problem 😛

[wheat perch]

I run it onto my 2070super w/o big issues and I dont have to play it on ultra settings^^

[late ferry]

sqepticism has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[flint spoke]

might be, depends what fps you're trying to get

[hearty pollen]

Stable 60!

[flint spoke]

you might need to upgrade the cpu for stable 60 😂

just get used to awful latency and pretend its good

like everyone else is

[hearty pollen]

Naaah, I've put the game on a hiatus until further. Hopefully it'll get fixed

[flint spoke]

trying to play at 1440p?

[hearty pollen]

Yes

[flint spoke]

im sure your game runs a lot better than mine, i have a 5800x3d which is apparently nothing now 😂

[hearty pollen]

Emphasis on trying.

[lavish mason]

I play with it all on high, native 1440p. 125fps average. 5600 non X cpu

[hearty pollen]

Right.

[lavish mason]

I'm not joking.

[flint spoke]

(inconsistent 60-70 but can't feel the bad lows so for him its like he's playing on smooth 60-70)

[lavish mason]

I have a 6900xt gpu

[flint spoke]

i know 😂

[hearty pollen]

Ah, explains it. This game seemingly hates nvidia, and especially 4070s.

Albeit, the 4070 is a garbage card.

[flint spoke]

nah, some people just can't tell it runs bad, ignore them

[high quarry]

6900XT is more like a 4070 super

[flint spoke]

look there are people who can't feel the difference between 30fps and 60fps

[lavish mason]

I'm deffo seeing a lot of Nvidia users with the memory leak issues. But then again 85 percent of us have Nvidia so you'd expect to see a lot more posters with issues purely from userbase size

[flint spoke]

I mean I played on a 2070 super, the gpu wasn't the issue, and a 5600 is not going to run it any better than a 5800x3d, the user can't tell its running bad.

[high quarry]

in terms of current gen, 6900XT sits above 7800XT, close to 7900 GRE

[lavish mason]

I mean I can tell my game runs fine so far. The fringing is somewhat annoying in dark scenes

[flint spoke]

your standards are lower, I would switch places in a heartbeat

[lavish mason]

My standards require playable frame rate so I have adjusted my settings appropriately. There's no value judgement in using higher graphical settings you can't run

[hearty pollen]

Yeah, no I assume you have fine fps. This is also just... Some have solid performance for no apparent reason, and likewise for trash performance.

[flint spoke]

adjusting settings don't fix it lol

[lavish mason]

They did for me, I swapped out in game fsr for in driver amfsr2 and gained 10fps easily, for example

[hearty pollen]

But the 6900 is quite a strong card, and shits all over my garbage 4070

[lavish mason]

Also yes. Makes me think it's more GPU issues than CPU

[flint spoke]

i have a 4070 super and half the areas in this game feel like shit

[lavish mason]

As I have a weak cpu and it's doing fine

[flint spoke]

not better than when I had a 2070 super. the only difference is I can play at way higher settings. doesn't fix the fact my 5800x3d is doing shit

[flint spoke]

fine for you is clearly shit for us tho

[hearty pollen]

Maybe. Or just one of these "I have solid performance for seemingly no sensible reason!" this game does

[lavish mason]

What?

[flint spoke]

your cpu is struggling you just don't notice it lol

[lavish mason]

And yet....

[flint spoke]

don't notice = seems good = no complaints

[hearty pollen]

I mean,.. Why? Duck clearly has better performance than us in all aspects.

[flint spoke]

I don't think so. he just can't tell

[hearty pollen]

How the f can you know? Christ

[flint spoke]

bruh same people who can't tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps

[lavish mason]

Yeah I've only been gaming since the early 90s this is all very new for me

[flint spoke]

they exist, its a spectrum. if you can't sense it, you can't sense i/

[hearty pollen]

Ah newbie! Welcome to the ranks!

[lavish mason]

I have a 144 refresh rate freesync 2 monitor and tune my performance for that

[flint spoke]

yeah I have gysnc 144hz...

[high quarry]

144 fps is a good target, so framegen doesnt feel horrible.

[flint spoke]

can you sense an extra 1ms in latency? because I can. I feel that shit 24/7 while playing

[hearty pollen]

Yeah no.

[lavish mason]

Yeah. I think for my budget and my limited technical knowledge, a bit of messing and lotta questions I've managed to be one of the lucky ones SO FAR in terms of performance

[flint spoke]

all I'm saying is, whats considered 'fine' to some people is not considered fine to others

[hearty pollen]

10ms? Sure. 1? Nope.

[lavish mason]

I do think sqepticisms issues specifically are purely a skill issue though.

[flint spoke]

bruh I can play with latency on special k, and I can feel the difference

[lavish mason]

Right.

[hearty pollen]

Good for you.

[flint spoke]

go mess with latency in special k and upp it by like 2ms and if you can't feel that, then idk what to tell you

this game needs deep optimizations work, a patch isn't going to come out tomorrow and magically fix your issue chill.

[lavish mason]

I've got vsink turned off because I meant my monitor to do it m8. Less latency and no tearing

[high quarry]

1ms measured latency isnt end-end, its many milliseconds by the time its done the input to pixel loop. It is possible to notice it.

[hearty pollen]

We'll see. I pray it'll get playable if anything. Great game

[flint spoke]

trust me I'm in the same boat

[hearty pollen]

But that's a completely different topic. Not what was said here.

[high quarry]

On top of that, most people have mediocre monitor panels with 6ms+ pixel response

[lavish mason]

It's hardly a competitive online FPS is it though

[flint spoke]

you can have vysnc + vrr at the same time

[high quarry]

They are different things, but throw them all together and they layer to affect the overall experience.

[flint spoke]

the frametimes are so inconsistent in this game I agree that vysnc isn't really worth it

even vrr + vsync can't fix it

[lavish mason]

Sure but I have the in driver anti tearing sync on so turn off in game vsinc. Works for me as demonstrated by my frame rate and smooth gaming with low latency

For now

I'm not in the janky half of the story yet

[flint spoke]

most games I don't start playing with vysnc settings to find something that feels good

[high quarry]

The best way to overcome that, is find your average fps, i.e 140, then cap below it, i.e 130

[flint spoke]

yet here I am 😂

[flint spoke]

yea

[high quarry]

That way, your frametime becomes a solid line, and your GPU wont be 100% non-stop

Wont help with CPU related issue in settlements etc if you have those.

[flint spoke]

yea

[flint spoke]

normally vsync helps with the frametimes, but it feels bad anyway so the extra latency isnt worth it i think in this game, which is just crazy to me

[flint spoke]

i didnt start bitching about performance until I got to the north 😭 . then I got frustrated

[lavish mason]

That's 100 percent a skill issue

[flint spoke]

until then it was like fine, like a little choppy in settlements but not irritating

[flint spoke]

come back when you've been to yaniv have fun with that

[lavish mason]

The second half of the game is broken, don't speed ahead in progress 😉

[flint spoke]

i didn't, I just don't have a life

[lavish mason]

Duh

[flint spoke]

im trying to stretch it as slow as I can

[lavish mason]

One of us! Welcome

[high quarry]

Mr Eyes X3 agrees: https://i.imgur.com/j2MT3R5.jpeg

[dawn vigil]

The memory leak is basically making Rostok impossible to play, i spawn in and i cna't get out because my view is a slideshow ): trapped in Rostok

[high quarry]

6GB VRAM? Rostok is a pretty smooth 140fps

[unborn otter]

How much vram ?

[dawn vigil]

im on a 3070

8 gigs should be plenty, Ryzen 5600 if memory serves me right, 32 Gigs of Ram

i shouldn't be struggling like this. only on 1080 as well

[flint perch]

me too, literally 10 fps

there's a potato mod which make everything potato setting which should give you enough fps, but it will look real bad

[slim nova]

I have 24GB VRAM in RTX 4090 and I play in 4K, when I start the game the game fills about 10GB VRAM, but after a few hours it is already filled with 23GB VRAM and FPS drops a lot. Every now and then I have to restart the game and it helps, which does not change the fact that the game fills any amount of VRAM, the smaller it is the faster and this VRAM does not clear. As if the game wanted to load the entire map into the GPU VRAM xD

[lavish mason]

does anyone with an AMD card have the same issue? my VRAM usage is about 9 to 10 gig and doesnt increase with game time

[high quarry]

7800XT, VRAM stays in the 8-10 range.

[lavish mason]

red team hi 5

dont be a corporate shill, folks, both sides are evil and only care about the line

[stable kite]

Cant wait for a patch, stoped playing just before that side mission bug fest of defense the village of the lesser zone. Plus the fps drops to 10 out of nowhere.... Loaded a save before going there and waiting

[slim nova]

In my case I loaded an autosave before I got to the village and made a manual save. I loaded it over and over until one time the villagers were fighting the Monoliths outside the building. Then I waited until all the Monoliths came out to fight and then I killed them all.

[stable kite]

i tried that and the best that happened for me was kill some and others got blocked inside the main house. Even with the door opened they would not get out and i can't fire... Got tired and gave up

[agile harbor]

Yep, same here. Takes a while, so its not too much of a pain. I have Special K setup to alert me at 20GB used and I just save, close and re-open the game.

[unborn otter]

I have never gone above 15 gb of usage on my 4090

And ive played for well over 8 hours in a row

How long do you play to reach 24 gb ?

[agile harbor]

I've got a bit over 100 hours in the game, its happened maybe 4-5 times

might take 2 hours, might not happen

[vapid wigeon]

See thats what I'm saying, its literally mostly STILL an Nvidia thing. I said this before but was called out lol 7900 XT here and I've played for a whole 10+ hours in one sitting its never went up more than 11gb or so, on epic, and in 4k

It's clearly not an issue on Nvidias side being that they've had new drivers recently, but more so now just the devs not fixing something Nvidia is more dependent on apparently. I still blame DLSS since it was pointed out in the UE5 dev forums for doing exactly what these people say.

[tawny thicket]

it happens to me too but my card is 8gb (RX6600) and i imagine that if played at a lower setting then it wouldnt happen

i like that the game looks good

[vapid wigeon]

The lower Vram cards are already known for this issue, if you played lower it'd be fine.

Put it this way, its DLSS & Low Vram other wise. The Vram part makes sense. The DLSS option? Odd.

[tawny thicket]

if this is true then NVIDIA's main "selling" point (DLSS) is also their greatest downfall/achilles heel

[tawny thicket]

what preset? for me rostok works fine on the high preset i also have 8gb of VRAM but i have an AMD card (RX6600)

[vapid wigeon]

DLSS driver side is fine, Its gotta be something within this version of UE5 that isn't getting along with DLSS. Just like the several posts I found that I had mentioned a week back. The developer forums for UE4 and 5 both mention different builds leaking Vram and even regular memory leaks with DLSS active. But nobody said why. These are actual developers, indie sure, but still.

As for other issues people have I've given up on investigating lol hard to when you've had no issues what so ever. But I am waiting out S2 for now until we get some updates on ALife. I just dont wanna go further any more.

I STILL give it game of the year for several reasons 😄

[tawny thicket]

i havent played a single game with A-LIFE in it but I enjoy the game a lot

[vapid wigeon]

Well, when it works, its great. Even in the OG games without it being modded to be better its solid. You'd just hear action in every direction, random groups of AI living about their lives and more.

How ever the problem is that most people who gave the game a bad rating did so after playing MODDED ALIFE lol. The modded aspect of Alife was CHAOTIC. Damn fun but yeah. lol Imagine an RPGMMO with shit loads of players going rogue and just losing their mind, every step you took was those AI coming at you, going at everything else every 20 seconds, and yeah. A super more true living world just with coked up stalkers.

[lavish mason]

I found my companies stash of amphetamine supplies, ate them all and am now 2 weeks into a sleepless mutant killing rampage, strelok. Send help I can't stop

Should call it aimo koivunen mode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimo_Koivunen

On a different topic.

Just seen 15 game review for that new intel GPU, including stalker 2
https://youtu.be/cioqSCD2qiE?si=t4GvUCGao6jmpB74

[high quarry]

They are all entry level tier cards, so wont vary much: https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-arc-b580/images/stalker-2-2560-1440.png

[glass vault]

its looking the the arc b580 is gonna be better than the 1080ti for pricing

[slim nova]

You play in 4K?

[vapid wigeon]

Turn off DLSS and see the result.

[dusk onyx]

A lot of the remaining VRAM leaks are DLSS and Frame Generation bugs, no?

[glass vault]

why does powercolor give their gpu lines ups such good names. MF they are adding REAPER to their lineup for amd 8000

[vapid wigeon]

Pretty much so. Unless your card is a low Vram model to begin with.

[vapid wigeon]

Ahaha I've always loved powercolor. I've went with them for a while, but now I'm using XFX again.

[lavish mason]

Diddy made them add an E for copyright reasons?

[glass vault]

they got better names than nvidia board partners i want REAPER not gaming x trio

[unborn otter]

?

[vapid wigeon]

Then we got AsRock with the Phantom models.

[lavish mason]

Rx over 9000 xtxxxxx massacre edition x WHEN?!

[glass vault]

honestly is i just me or is the AMD reference designs look better than the nvidia founders edition

the GTX FE cards looked sick tho

[lavish mason]

I kinda like the rtx reference. It's menacing

[vapid wigeon]

AMD ref designs are about like the aftermarket ones really. They do a sleek curvey style shroud and typically are cooler too by design with better air flow.

[lavish mason]

But AMD reference made up for it with the two red lines. Red makes it fasta

[vapid wigeon]

LOL AMD did the BMW lines on the grille paint

[glass vault]

at least the amd 7000 reference looks good i like it better than the current founders editions

[lavish mason]

Agree AMD 3rd party is where it's at for cooling.

[agile harbor]

3840x2160 resolution, 4K.

[vapid wigeon]

To be honest, I don't understand the 4080/4090 cooling vs XT and XTX 7900's.

Nvidias are made SUPER chunky yet AMD's are made super long lol

[unborn otter]

I know but why did he ping me about that

[agile harbor]

I believe because you replied to them before about playing on a 4090.

[vapid wigeon]

Y'all were talking about 4090s and frame drop over time, tagged, etc

[agile harbor]

Yes.

[unborn otter]

i play at 2520x5360

[vapid wigeon]

WHAT IN HELL

[lavish mason]

Nvidia board is shorter right?

[unborn otter]

Ultra wide

[agile harbor]

When I launch the game i'm seeing 10-13GB used (Epic preset, DLSS Quality).

[lavish mason]

Ultra TALL

[agile harbor]

5120x2160 you mean?

[glass vault]

their boards are tiny like length of the pcie slot on some designs

[vapid wigeon]

Kind of and kind of not. Nvidia boards have an odd V shape for some models if I recall.

[agile harbor]

Founders cards, yeah. Not the AIB cards.

[unborn otter]

Oh yea 5360x2520 i meant

[agile harbor]

I mean, the AIB cards can be short too but that V shape is the FE cards.

[glass vault]

if the 4090 ti dumpster find was real it had the pcb on the bottom parallel with the mobo

[agile harbor]

Due to the heatsink design.

[vapid wigeon]

AH okay. lol I knew I saw an odd shaped PCB on one of them.

[agile harbor]

yeah that was all sorts of weird. PCB daughter boards an all

[unborn otter]

I have 5,212,800 more pixels then 4k

[glass vault]

i wonder if we will ever go back to sli now that we are so close to 1nm nodes

[agile harbor]

That would mean a major shift for engine developers, there is really no need

[glass vault]

i say sli once now my phone is blowing up with article why sli is good

[vapid wigeon]

Shit no. But I can guarantee you what we will see, new dual gpu boards.

[unborn otter]

Nope they have started to combine nodes

[vapid wigeon]

It'd be amazing if AMD released that dual 6900 board for consumer use on games lol

I saw a review of it and when it worked.. IT WORKED beating or matching a 4090 in several games.

[glass vault]

only reason i say this is because our current tech we are starting having quantum tunneling problems from what i read. this has been our main way of increasing performance. also we are suposed to hit 1.8nm next year

if the tunneling becomes a bigger problem then as i see it the only ways to get better is IPC, clocks or just more

[vapid wigeon]

Have ya seen this lil booger. If games could utilize dual GPU's again like some did in these tests, I could see the dual thing being real again.

https://youtu.be/nuj4JOe7Tak

[glass vault]

i remember seeing that crazy design. imagine if Nvidia let AIBs on the loose again. imagine seeing a dual 4090 chip card

[agile harbor]

How did I miss this one. Neat

[vapid wigeon]

Yep! If both brands would just say.. GO FOR IT and some company have the nads to do it to where games could utilize this stuff again? We'd have legendary cards!

[glass vault]

also SLI can come back its similar to how dlss/frame gen got added with ray tracing. they had to make games from the ground up to support those

[unborn otter]

Its what nvidia is doing for the 5090 except they are putting them together instead of what amd did

It will act as one gpu so it wont have any compatibility issues

[agile harbor]

"putting them together"?

[glass vault]

yeah they are going tile/chiplet from what i heard. its ryzen chiplet design

[unborn otter]

Correct

[agile harbor]

Oh, this is not the same thing

[vapid wigeon]

I don't see mention of it being a dual model, but i do see mention of it being a "DUAL SLOT" lol

[glass vault]

10k rpm fans as standard

[vapid wigeon]

almost drone status

[glass vault]

glad they are trying to make it smaller

[unborn otter]

They are combining the power of 2 gpu nodes by using something called NVLink that they made

[glass vault]

they are using SLI tech

[agile harbor]

GB202 Blackwell being MCM is not the same as two independent dies using NVlink.

[unborn otter]

No way in hell will it be smaller with a 600 watt tdp

[glass vault]

600w was the max it can use for the connector

[vapid wigeon]

Nah they're not using Nvlink again. The pro cards can though.

[unborn otter]

Thats the 4090

[glass vault]

they might it probably does the same thing as AMDs infinity fabric.

[glass vault]

they are working under the guess that it only has one connector not two. so the max power consuption is 600w but there are guesses it might be closer to 550w

[agile harbor]

For one, its all rumors and two, this is extremely unlikely. There are no rumors to support use of SLI/NVlink in gaming blackwell (GB202).

We're likely going to see a single MCM die.

latest as of last month https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-gb202-gpu-die-reportedly-measures-744-mm2-20-larger-than-ad102

[vapid wigeon]

yeah its literally the same as it is now. The pro models are the only ones using sli and capable of course, as it has been for ever now.

[glass vault]

as a connector you are most likely right. but using the same technology to communicate between multiple dies is more likely just because if it can do it through a connector why not repurpose it for die to die communication

[high quarry]

we arent gonna get full 102 capability for consumer anyway..

[agile harbor]

I suppose, but then I guess we're just talking naming semantics at that point.

[glass vault]

im guessing if they do use it they will rename it since it will be technically different

[glass vault]

not yet but seeing the gb103 for 3 cards i wouldn't be suprised if a 102 is being binned for a 5090ti or 5080 ti

weird thing is i didn't see a gb104 die on the leaks yet

[vapid wigeon]

LOL Posts on videocardz said they're already waiting for the AMD Lucifer cards now that the reaper was announced

[glass vault]

well i guess i found the gb104 die since they are making a 5060 ti with 16gb of vram

[vapid wigeon]

if its as pointless as the 4060 ti with 16gb... I've lost hope for them lol

People will still flock to it of course.

For me, I just wanna see an RX 8900 XT 😄 Or if that 8800 XT can match a 7900 XT with better RT I'm sold if its cheap. lol

[glass vault]

I mean it's better than the 4060 just because the vram increase. For brand new from Nvidia but AMD is still better for budget

[vapid wigeon]

I mean we already have a 16gb 4060 and its just horrid and useless lol so its not a vram increase at all.

[glass vault]

It's better now days since 1080 high on Indiana Jones wants 12gb

Still not a justification for pricing tho

[agile harbor]

Man, I have that game primed and ready to go and i'm getting anxious. The next S2 mission I have is the point of no return (i'm in Pripyat now) and I'm debating speed running it just to start Indiana. Likely won't, I still want to slowly explore. I realized I didn't really explore all of the Duga complex after the one big mission there.

[glass vault]

Good luck man. I had a hell of a time in mine. It's like a gauntlet

[cursive laurel]

That's what I did, speedran my first playthrough of s2, and went to play Indiana Jones. Didn't bother exploring too much in S2 bc I wanna go back and get all the endings when the game is fully fixed and a-life is properly implemented, figured I'd leave some meat on the bone for my next playthrough

[agile harbor]

Ha, yeah see the problem is I'm at like 110hours on my first playthrough

[cursive laurel]

Oh, yeah you've probably done a lot more exploring than me, i finished in like 55 hours 😂

[austere crane]

same. maybe this next upcoming patch will have enough fixes in it (w/ a-life specifically) to make me feel like i'm not wasting my time. doubt it given the scale of the issues currently, but it's definitely within the realm of possibility. honestly if they could just make spawns happen a good bit farther away, add some logic as to where they spawn (e.g. so they can't spawn where you just were or where you just looked), that's all i need. just enough to stop constantly breaking the immersion with a sledgehammer

but that's just what i feel is needed to let me play the game without constantly thinking about those things. ideally some key changes to the game economy would happen too, which would greatly improve the drive to explore

ffs i just want to play a stalker game without thinking about its shortcomings constantly XD can't play the OG trilogy personally, too jank and old tech/visuals, anomaly is pretty cool but drops interesting story w/ voiced roles etc, and modpacks like GAMMA make you think about how the mods are working together (or not) 100% of the time

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah, Anomaly is cool and all but people saying its better and flocking to it need help. lol There's nothing to it but loot, kill, repeat. No actual concept of anything to do in that mod besides what jank little quest there is. Once you get top gear, it's basically game over unless you want to do bounty missions over and over or race to be top stalker in the zone.

I wont lie though, if S2 would implement the status portion of the PDA and have a true LIVE stalker ratings portion to compare to other REAL players, that would be kick ass lol

There's actually a cool way the devs could implement an online portion to S2 that would be pretty lively.

You guys heard of the game on steam "This land is my land"

While it isn't true multiplayer, it has a hybrid approach. It would work amazing in a game like Stalker 2.

make THAT the lively PDA portion entirely.

[austere crane]

oh yeah, there are SO many ways to innovate with s2 and make it something really original and show real growth from the original games in ways besides the aesthetic qualities... right now i just want s*** to work, lol

speaking of, has anyone seen a mod or fix to un-bind the camera movements that are bound to numpad 1, 2, 3, 5? i know most people don't need those keys but i as a southpaw use them all the time

[glass vault]

you know if the PDA had a chat function. it would be filled shit posting and random bullshitt

[austere crane]

💯 but it'd still be entertaining XD

[glass vault]

CRCR really proves the theory

you got one person saying how do i do this mission and another talking about how realistic breaking bad is for making meth

i want crcr for stalker 2

[austere crane]

what's CRCR?

[glass vault]

chernobyl relay chat rebirth pretty much makes the notification system into a chat.

[austere crane]

ahhhh, gotcha

[glass vault]

make anomaly more fun ngl

[austere crane]

ok how the actual f does stalker 2 have separate movement controls for going up/down ladders, and those controls can't be rebinded 🤨

i swear to god either they had like 5 playtesters all of whom were typical WASD players, or they just did not GAF about the feedback they were getting

and you can't rebind most of the things in the radial menu... bruh this is probably the worst keybinding situation i have EVER seen

back to gamepad i go and feeling like i'm having a stroke during every firefight

[agile harbor]

All I want is a keybind to turn off and on the HUD. My life would be complete.

[wispy trench]

no one should have a complete life, you wouldnt have anything to live for anymore

[vapid wigeon]

lol not everyone has to find a "meaning" so to speak, in life. That saying is old. "Well what am I living for if there's no meaning?" Well, to live. We're human. Live and enjoy it up! Looking for a meaning is just a dumb excuse to be confused. So to say "My life would be complete" is valid, its fine, nothing wrong with it.

[agile harbor]

No sarcasm. Got it. 😆

[cursive laurel]

I'm hoping we get some decent dlc too, there just didn't seem to be much going on outside the main story. I had a hard time finding side quests or anything else interesting

[agile harbor]

I think mid to late game most of the side quests seem to be triggered by exploration and getting close to an area.

clearing question marks

[austere crane]

i agree with Vanilla, there are very, very few side quests for this type of game. more side quests would certainly add a lot to the game, at least if the writing and set ups are good

i feel like a lot of the unique weapons, artifacts etc should've been tied to side quests as rewards (similar to the early game one w/ the poppy fields)

i know some of them are already almost like "natural" side quests where you have to do some extra exploration and maybe some unique combat encounters which is cool, but more story and lore-building is always cool too

[cursive laurel]

I will say I didn't do a ton of exploration on my first playthrough, but I also never used fast travel and I don't think I encountered 1 side quest. Besides the bar quests which I don't really count

[austere crane]

bruh, those random quests totally count and they're awesome too! you don't want to make 1500 to spend 20 minutes killing 5 bandits (and incur > $1500 in repair costs to your gear)??

[agile harbor]

I dunno, it never seemed like that much money

[austere crane]

sarcasm :p

[agile harbor]

lol, fair. funny given what I said earlier :p

[austere crane]

the artifacts ones give the most but a) you'll almost certainly have WAY more use out of artifacts themselves vs. their sell value, at least the rare ones, and b) even the quest reward value is like 20% more than the normal sell value. o.O

just another example of how the whole game could be vastly improved without even adding a single piece of content, just "remix" and rebalance what's already there...

i know encumbrance is a key part of its gameplay (which i'm personally ok with, although i know it's a controversial topic) but like.. the way you're almost in the yellow encumbrance range with just one primary, skif's pistol, some ammo for each, and the basic healing items is frickin crazy. you just IMMEDIATELY get encumbered the moment you start looting things. i know you can eventually stack some weight artifacts and gear, but that can be quiiiite a long time

[vapid wigeon]

Okay, so who here has Nvidia and has issues with Vram & FG causing the whole vram/memory leak?

I may have a solution after looking into UE5 dev & gamer posts alone for other titles.

So let me break it down to you.

Stalker 2 is using DLSS 3.7.0 & Not the latest.

Same goes for its current FG version too being older.

I found this out while checking the files in S2's engine folder.

---

Update the DLSS & FG files your self with the latest from Nvidia FOR This game, this does not affect your GPU Drivers, its not GPU sided/Global driver issues.

---

1. Go to:
   S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Engine\Plugins\Marketplace\DLSS\Binaries\ThirdParty\Win64

• Download > DLSS 3.8.10 And replace the DLSS file within the folder with the new
  https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/

2. Go to:
   S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Engine\Plugins\Marketplace\Streamline\Binaries\ThirdParty\Win64

• Download > DLSS FG 3.8.1 and replace the appropriate file again
  https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-3-frame-generation-dll/

---

Somebody test this and see.

I found these fixes for a few UE5 titles for THIS YEAR in which appeared to be Vram memory leaks and FPS drops.

They're verified fixes for those, so it may work for Stalker 2.

Bottom line, If it doesn't fix the leak issue, it will guarantee boost performance for a lot of Nvidia users.

[agile harbor]

I used to mess around with DLSS Swapper, just haven't bothered with it in a year or two. https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

From what I remember, it worked just fine to change which DLSS version you were on but manually doing it works just as well.

[vapid wigeon]

I suggest doing it how I put it. Reason being its also the method to switch FG to a newer version to which a lot of people use right now.

[agile harbor]

If I remember, i'm going to test this tonight and see if I notice a difference

[vapid wigeon]

If some people will chime in and see if it does any magic it'd be much appreciated. lol I'm just curious if it would at least help some lower end users out too not just the leak.

[vapid wigeon]

If you remember, tag me and let me know! AMD over here so I cant mess with much lol. Just trying to help some others out atm.

[cursive laurel]

I ended up downloading a mod that reduces the weight of consumables to 10%, which i think is a little too low but it's so nice not being encumbered the entire game

[agile harbor]

I did that for just consumables and ammo. Its insane how much of an impact that has on the economy (being able to carry more weapons and armor to sell)

Money just stops being an issue

Its a little too extreme, I agree

[stable kite]

yep economy is broken needs some balance, if you like exploring and stash your stuff you will never buy anything from vendors only sell

[restive obsidian]

This + that particular config helped me a lot on RTX 4060 Laptop / AMD Ryzen 7735HS system. No (at least that obvious) visual downgrade.
I hope the devs will finally fix these nasty memory leaks so people could stop messing around with configs.

[nocturne tundra]

is there an amd version for this?

[restive obsidian]

You mean up-to-date FSR? Not on PC rn, you could google how to update it as well.

[vapid wigeon]

amd only has this leak issue if youre in the lower vram of gpus

[nocturne tundra]

nah I have 16gb vram, still some stutters, it's just kinda annoying

also input lag with frame gen is real

[vapid wigeon]

the stutters is just down to how your GPU is from the get go. If you have FG input lag then you're below 60 to begin with.

[nocturne tundra]

nah, I'm hovering 60-70, game stutters regardless

[vapid wigeon]

I mean without FG if youre below 60 then using FG will introduce input lag like crazy with AMD.

[nocturne tundra]

get about 150 with FG

[vapid wigeon]

Then I suggest you look into whats going on. Shouldn't be as bad as you claim. I can use FG and its fine, then using AFMF and its still perfectly fine, near zero (how it feels) input lag.

[restive obsidian]

Turn on Nvidia Reflex in-game if you haven’t, really helps especially with DLSS framegen. Also I believe some of the configs include some shenanigans to reduce input lag. The one I linked above does that for example, I think.

[vapid wigeon]

As for the stutters, depends what kind of stutter. CPU, GPU, SSD? Could be any of the 3 being the issue there. I have none on my end, but it WILL have one slight stutter for say a few miliseconds when entering new zones I've not been into, but after being in those and all through the map its never did it again.

[vapid wigeon]

HEY DAMMIT We're AMD FOLKS HERE.

[vapid wigeon]

Whats the GPU usage at? Should be between 95-100% full time depending on areas.

[steel geyser]

you cant get 100% gpu in the first village

or maybe with a very weak gpu i guess

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah you can. Your GPU should be at 100% nearly all the time

[steel geyser]

tell that to my 4070S and 13600 in the first village then

[vapid wigeon]

Then there's an issue, lol if its nto 100% GPU then you got a bottleneck going on.

[steel geyser]

yes, thats what im saying

[vapid wigeon]

You said it a little backwards. I get it.

[nocturne tundra]

will check soon, playing a game of cs rn

[vapid wigeon]

Nothing like getting banged. Flash banged.

[austere crane]

you can do it easily with a 9800x3D and a 3080 ti @ 1440p, ask me how i know XD

but that's the 9800x3D doing it's thing obviously

also that one bar in Rostok (not 100 Rads, the other one) when there's 3+ peeps at the bar. hfs that hammers GPU

[agile cipher]

Trying to get some advice. I would like to get two monitors, both of them same length width and height, 4k resolution 240+Hz, and I was wondering if anyone could refer me to some good ones? Preferrably off the samsung site

Ik the Samsung Odessey Neo G8, but idk if thats really that good or what

[austere crane]

idk what's available right now since i'm satisfied (and will be for a while) w/ my LG C4 48", but whatever you do, stick it out for an OLED screen if you can

OLED display w/ proper HDR support of 800+ nits peak brightness is one of the biggest game changers in gaming hardware for me since i started gaming, no joke. and that's ~30 years of gaming

[vapid wigeon]

You can actually save a buck and snag 2 Innocn 32mv2 4k's they're mini led with true HDR and 1052 dimming zones and 1000+ nit

[austere crane]

it still legitimately makes my jaw drop. and i've had a C1 and now C4 for about 3 years

you just can't beat the ability for each individual pixel to turn completely off. but i know OLED options are still pretty limited, especially if you're after 144hz +

[vapid wigeon]

Pretty much. I opted for the one I mentioned above despite not being OLED pffft. Its damn near close to quality. I've had OLED before and what not. So I can easily compare. But this 1000 nit brightness?

DO NOT FLASHBANG

[austere crane]

yeah i'm sure it's still really really good. i wish i would've forked out a few hundred more for the 55" C4 because they have a slightly different panel that does ~1000 nits peak

[vapid wigeon]

https://youtu.be/q3QQ7GXl9cQ

[austere crane]

awesome. that would be a kick ass option especially on sale for $100+ off

[vapid wigeon]

I only got it because while I didnt wanna fork out the money for another OLED, I wanted to finally ditch ultra wide, Got tired of it really. A guy had posted this Innocn for 250 bucks locally, It was a STEAL. lol So I hopped on it asap.

I was kinda iffy about it but after doing some research and what not, yeah, SO WORTH IT.

I still gotta get used to local dimming and all that other crap. Even when I had a true OLED and so on, I never messed with HDR much lol. Finally just giving in and learning it more.

[austere crane]

but @vapid wigeon i'm sure you would agree with me, having a good HDR display is f***ing incredible and provided you set everything up right on the software side (including however well each individual game works w/ hdr) it's one of those "i'm never going back" things

[vapid wigeon]

YEP! This one has true HDR with the best local dimming for the price. And I've been blown away with what I missed out on for a while with the Gimmicky HDR crap I've had before

[austere crane]

yeah, it really really sucks how the gimmicky HDR crap in the vast majority of PC displays over the past few years has practically ruined the concept for a lot of gamers

i can't tell you how many times i mention how awesome HDR is and people get angry and tell me how it's a bulls**t scam

[vapid wigeon]

First game I tested after I assumed I calibrated it right so far was Cyberpunk of course lol. And maaaaaaaaaaaaaan what a difference. Then I messed around in Watch Dogs 2 and a few others. TOTAL differences. Its wild

[austere crane]

like bruh... you just have to see it in person, there's no other way

[lusty mason]

Got a g8 neo MiniLED 1197 zones, 1000nit and it's fantastic, i didn't trust oled burn in when i bought it a year back

[austere crane]

omg yeah, cp2077 is probably the first thing i would recommend to test HDR as well. it's mind blowing

[lusty mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAkVfopBbN0 ----This video also

[vapid wigeon]

Literally, the thing is people just see the actual fake or "Try hard" HDR and assume its just bleh.. but thats because welll.... they had what people call false HDR from the get go lol If it isn't QD and without Local Dimming its NOT True HDR at all. Despite 1000000s of monitors have the HDR labeling.

[austere crane]

the new Indiana Jones game is also incredible

[blissful smelt]

what a shame about them going UE5. But I understand now that its unsustainable for a self publisher to keep up such an engine like REDE is. A crying shame, tremendous engine that one is.

[vapid wigeon]

THIS LOOKS ORGASMIC HOLYYYY

[lusty mason]

Just completed it 10 mins ago

[austere crane]

(or OLED ofc.) and yeah, the other thing that hurt HDR's "reputation" is how complete crap the Windows implementation of it was for a long time. where you couldn't just turn it on system wide, it required a game to be in exclusive fullscreen and the display would have to change modes when alt tabbing and stuff like that. now (for the most part) "it just works"

[vapid wigeon]

Honestly I think UE5 will be fine for it. BUT I do dislike the fact that their UE5 isnt too well known for its easy implementation of quality of life features for RP like scenarios and such that people like from the RED engine and its animations etc its self.

[lusty mason]

Consoles still have the best implementation of it just working but windows is pretty good now once calibrated properly

[austere crane]

you can also play any game now w/ HDR, even older DX8 and DX9 ones (with different methods). so it's really cool going back and seeing some old faves in the new light, pun intended

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah, Now days its perfectly fine! And I actually don't have to run windows HDR on/off as I turn it on in the monitor its self and it works even then "Somehow" and looks the same as if HDR was enabled in windows.

But I still do it both ways to be sure it works when I do use it. Other wise for a lot of games I do still use SDR & 10bit color though. Depends what it is I'm playing. Games like CP2077 its on, but games like GTAV and such? SDR.

[blissful smelt]

Id like to be more optimistic, but its a big scare from my point of view. Everybody is getting rid of it, I get it, but if anything at least with stalker it didnt go swimingly with UE5 and I dont see the entire vidgame byz going the way of one engine being a good thing. If anything for purposes of employment of devs. Opens alot of space for contract work only.

[vapid wigeon]

Well in our case, S2 Devs went with a well known version of UE5 that has its problems, all of UE5 isn't like this really, so look at it that way.

[austere crane]

i've learned soooo much about getting the most out of HDR on PC (and console, though like Dark-Autark just said, console is pretty much set and forget.) some day i feel like making a writeup that covers everything but in a really simple way so people don't get overwhelmed. but long story short it's pretty easy to run everything in proper HDR now, and there's literally no reason not to. but that's a discussion for another day i suppose

[vapid wigeon]

In my situation as to why I dont run HDR full time is due to the local dimming, I like it but the fact its on and using just desktop apps and such makes things SUPER ODD lol

[blissful smelt]

Im optimistic about it being fixed, well see how much time will the repair works take ig. Also on the TW4 front I believe that the game wont be out till late 2027 anyways. alot of time to polish. But hey, I have absolutely no knowledge about game dev or in engine works.

[austere crane]

ohhhhh i see, i didn't know that

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah this one has 1052 local dimming zones, so using some apps that are darker can look kind of odd lol. Like FL Studio, the screen lights around the mouse in some areas and just meh. 1052 zones are A LOT vs other monitors with only a few hundred zones.

[austere crane]

that sucks... i would say that does give OLED a massive advantage over local dimming when used as a PC display i guess (but obviously doesn't mean local dimming can't be used at all, just sayin')

cost is always a factor too

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah, either way they're both amazing so I can't complain lol. IS this one worth its regular 800+ price? NO, but if you catch it on a deal for say 500USD or so? YES. And like me at 250 used but basically new? HELL YES lol

My only complaint. I NEED A DAMN XTX NOW

[austere crane]

i wanna see one of the new QD-OLED flagship TVs that can do like 2400+ nits now o.O

[vapid wigeon]

My 7900 XT can play everything maxed so far, still, well into the 70+ range without the help of frame gen or fsr but its way lower than the 100+ FPS im used to with ultra wide lol so now im getting picky. But still not bugged much.

[nocturne tundra]

cpu and gpu are hovering around 80

[vapid wigeon]

AND YES 2400+ Nit good god. Don't play CSGO and flash bang is all I can say hahahaha

[vapid wigeon]

What CPU and GPU exactly? GPU wise it should be well into the 95+ range full time in stalker, so.

[nocturne tundra]

I'm running a 7800XT and Ryzen 5 5600X with 32gb ram

[vapid wigeon]

Then there's our answer. The cpu is the limitation.

If you had an X3D chip or even just a regular 5800+ you'd be fine without stutter and the GPU utilization would be quite better.

[nocturne tundra]

yeah, I might upgrade cpu at some point in the next year

[vapid wigeon]

You can get the 5700X3D cheap now days if you plan to stick with AM4.

So heres the recipe for the Jell-O Buttplug

Ohp...... wrong chat sorry

[austere crane]

LMFAO

[nocturne tundra]

ok so turning on anti lag in adrenalin solved my input lag

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah a lot of AMD's radeon options also offput things into the CPU too, so could explain it

[nocturne tundra]

yeah it's working well now, will definitely upgrade cpu though

[vapid wigeon]

Fine example how AMD's radeon options in app do things, If you enable AFMF the CPU usage and temps will shoot waaaaaaay up lol. But a lot of the options they have in the radeon app are godly good! So eh. Let it COOK

[austere crane]

see if you can find a 5800X3D 🙂

i mean if you want to save a buck and stick with your AM4 motherboard

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah I mentioned the 5700X3D it'd be cheaper and still heaps ahead of a 5600.

[austere crane]

yeah, that would be good too. plus i think the 5800X3D has a bit of a "hype" markup still on the used market

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah thats one prime reason I mentioned the 5700 lol The hype around the 5800X3D still has it way up there in price

[austere crane]

that's why i gotta sell mine ASAP lol

[nocturne tundra]

I'll go with the 5700 the 5800 isn't on german amazon and I don't feel like paying customs shipping from the UK

[vapid wigeon]

Either you go with, you'll be perfect 😄

[austere crane]

just make sure it's the 5700X3D not just 5700X, big difference

[vapid wigeon]

and yeah lol People are still buying and selling the 5800X3D THE SAME PRICE AS THE 7800X3D or higher.. like... WUH?

[austere crane]

it's insane.. you wanna hear something really crazy? guess how much my used 9900K sold for on ebay

[vapid wigeon]

I can already guess the same used 3090 price range for the dorks who love old gear and swear its a gold bar LOL

[austere crane]

lmao exactly, what is it with those folks who have a hard on for certain old hardware like it's somehow magically still relevant. someone paid $219 for that 9900K o.O

[vapid wigeon]

I will never understand those people. I mean we still have 3090's selling for 800-1k USD LIKE.. WHY?!

[austere crane]

it's completely crazy

idk if it's people just running on vibes alone and refusing to do research or what

[vapid wigeon]

CPU wise its almost like how old XEONS still sell for shit loads of cash too. But underperform like no other

[austere crane]

bruh it's XEON though 😂

[vapid wigeon]

LOL I mean I wont lie, there WAS a time when you could get a xeon x5650 for say 50-80 bucks used years ago and it would out perform newer i7's like hell but we're VERY beyond those days.

[austere crane]

it seems like a lot of people don't really grasp the performance increases made in the last ~3 CPU generations

[vapid wigeon]

Yep lol they often just go by the title "High performance CPU" or something and have "HEARD" of it at one point and are like "OMG SOLD GOTTA GET IT!"

[austere crane]

especially when it comes to 0.1% lows and stuff like that. like there's just no comparison whatsoever with a 10900K and even a 14700

[austere crane]

EXACTLY. it's straight vibes

i guarantee that's why my 9900k sold so high. plus i still had the dumb plastic tetrahedron thing those came in 😂

[vapid wigeon]

Ugh.. the plastic bits. There's your answer lmao

I mean we still have people buying the first gen threadrippers for 800+ FOR THE DAMN BOXES ALONE just for a shelf piece

[austere crane]

kill me now

[austere crane]

there is a moral to this story, though... if you can afford the initial "buy in" price on high end or top of the line CPU and GPUs, it more then pays for itself later on when dummies pay a premium for them on the used market. i've used this perpetual momentum going for years now to fund upgrades

[blissful smelt]

Ive been testing this for past 3 hours by the way and so far no leaks. They usualy set in after an hour and a half, so i see it as a good sign. Very nice find!

[vapid wigeon]

If we can get more people to test it then maybe the devs will see to update the DLSS and FG used in the game 😄 or at least pin this as a possible solution. Edit: Matter of fact just so they can have this on their radar, @spark iron

I also posted it in steam discussions too. Gonna bump it up one more time.

So if anyone else tries it, since it will most likely be over looked on here eventually,

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1643320/discussions/0/676200301101872570/?tscn=1734382772

Post on the steam discussion.

[plucky quail]

https://youtu.be/QPJKXqJokEg?si=8QjlFPvJYTPWY6B8 best music would u agree?

[austere crane]

i like it a lot, and i don't typically like game music w/ vocal tracks

it ain't got nothing on Rebel Path though 😎

[vapid wigeon]

Great music to poop to. NO LIES.

[austere crane]

it's got a good rhythm and you can poop to it 👍

[agile harbor]

Well they work. I saw some very strange textures disappearing anomalies (haha) but reloading my save its fine now. Will keep playing.

[vapid wigeon]

if it keeps on working out, post on the steam discussion above ^

[agile harbor]

Completely unrelated but sir. Can you stand somewhere else please? https://i.imgur.com/YThGcBz.jpeg

[vapid wigeon]

Ah, Typical GSC AI work at their finest.

[storm stirrup]

++++===========++++
CJ'S GAMING RIG
++++===========++++

Corsair ONE i500 Gaming PC

– Liquid Cooled Intel® Core™ i9-14900K 3.20 GHz CPU
– Liquid Cooled NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4090 GPU
– 64GB Vengeance DDR5 Memory
– 2TB M.2 SSD

• WINDOWS 11 PRO 64 Bit
  – Razer Ornata Chroma Keyboard
• Razer Naga Trinity Mouse
• FIFINE Gaming Microphone Podcast Condenser Mic with Boom Arm
• Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
• Razer Leviathan V2: Multi-Driver PC Gaming Soundbar with Subwoofer
• Boulies Ergonomic Gaming Chair 4D Armrests Built-in Lumbar Support (Ash Grey)

[vapid wigeon]

uh huh

But out of everything being costly you GO FOR THE DAMN FIFINE!

[spare coral]

They only need a good enough mic for game chat i guess

[vapid wigeon]

Eh, they're not bad. FiFine now days can compare to at least a shure MV7 easily.

[errant aspen]

Yeah why wouldn't you go for the classic shure podcast mic? Industry standard

[hallow crown]

Would my system benefit from a beefier GPU, or would it be bottlenecked? I've got an i7-9700K, RTX 2060, 32gb DDR4 and an SSD. Wondering if I would see anything more than marginal improvements with a new GPU or if I should just hold off until I can afford a new rig.

[spare coral]

I would say save for a new rig cause games are starting too demanding on the cpu side too

But wouldnt bottleneck a lot of gpus from midrange so you could get a gpu first then upgrade your whole rig cause im pretty sure they will go down in price now that they will announce new rtx/rx cards soon

[errant aspen]

They haven't been going down in price. The way it works is that a new series is launched and the old series goes out of production and the remaining stock goes way up in price. Nvidia is not an option if you are on a budget or trying to get a good deal, AMD and Intel are the ones to watch for the savvy rig builder. Nvidia is for people with all the money and no worries.

[flat brook]

Day 327… 9800X3Ds still nowhere in stock at near MSRP prices… Not sure how much longer I can hold out for…

If anyone reads this…. It’s been nice knowing you…

[glass vault]

the ryzen 9 x3d launches in january so stock might get better then. or just go 7000x3d

[flat brook]

I’ll manage, it was more a satire PDA type message.

Definitely not grabbing a 7800X3D at the moment, both retailers here sell them for 560 and 589 respectively💀

[glass vault]

my microcenter just got fresh stock hell yeah good for everyone else

[glass vault]

RIP my microcenter got them for MSRP

[flat brook]

Current chip is holding out fine, but I would very much like to throw my 13700K into my server rig, and slap a 9800X3D in my main one. Would allow me to cut down half my used storage space for more games

[glass vault]

im not even sure how proxmox or other hypervisors would work with hybrid chips

[flat brook]

Yeah availability and retail prices here are insane unfortunately. Just gotta wait as always

[glass vault]

what are you rocking in your server rig?

i gotta buy a 4u case for my 5900x rig its currently in a fractal define 7 xl which i want to my main rig case

[flat brook]

5800X3D, 64 Gigs of DDR4 3600 CL18 and a 5700 XT Sapphire, not even gonna get started on storage💀

[glass vault]

you want to have a storage pissing contest i got 10 3tb 3.5" drives that are 2 vdevs so 2 drives can fail. planning to buy another 20 drives and have 6 cold spares

[flat brook]

It’s mostly just cobbled together from my previous components, but swapping the AM4 platform for my current LGA 1700 would do wonders.

I’m currently running 2 servers while also playing Cyberpunk 2077 and Stalker 2, usually at the same time. It’s managing but definitely not optimal

[glass vault]

Jbod gang